The Kristian Harloff Show - Morbius Spoiler Discussion!

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Progressive casualty insurance company coverage provided in service by affiliates and third-party insurers. Hey, everybody, happy Monday. That's right. Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday. Have you seen Morbius? Well, if you haven't, you're watching the wrong show because we're going to be doing a spoiler discussion, review, whatever. We're going to be doing it on the show here today.
Starting point is 00:00:44 And I got my pal, Roxy Stryor here to talk about it. Because we saw it. We were at the theater together. We didn't even know we were going to be at the theater together yet. We saw it. We're going to talk about it, all that stuff. And do me a favor. We hit 40,000 subscribers, everybody. And that's because of you guys.
Starting point is 00:00:55 And all you have to do is subscribe. You hit the notification button. You hit that bell. You do all of it. and you will be part of the channel, part of the community. Leave your comments. I respond back to them. It helps tremendously.
Starting point is 00:01:07 It helps the algorithm. You know how it works. Let's do all of that stuff. I beg you, I plead you, I say all that, and then I go to sleep. Is that true?
Starting point is 00:01:14 I don't know. I hope I don't go to sleep. That would be farroxy upset because you'd just be talking to a sleeping asshole. So what are we doing today? I don't know. I don't know. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:01:25 What's up? Everybody? Welcome back. Hey, I'm Brett Sheridan. Perfect. It's really working out well here today for me. Hey, there we go. Roxy, how's it going? What is a sleeping asshole? Like, just one that hasn't gone in a long time?
Starting point is 00:01:49 I guess it just depends. Yeah. I guess it just depends. Sleeping asshole, right? I mean, oh, I don't want to get into it again, but we've talked about it on the show. We do have this a waiter. There's a sushi restaurant I've talked to you about that I love, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:02 And you said we'd go. We should go, and we should go soon. Should doesn't sound like will. We will go. We will go. But I don't want to say it. I don't want to say it here. But we will go.
Starting point is 00:02:12 But there is someone working at that restaurant that we have named shit-ass. He is the worst server in the history of the world. Like really bad. And I'm not anyone to ever call out bad servers before. But it's like waiting bad or? I just, I guess to go. I don't want to go over the whole story again because I did it in depth when Winston and Quiro run. But the short story is that my wife, myself and,
Starting point is 00:02:36 And my nephew were out ordering it. Guy was just a disaster in the first place. Has the mask half off. Wear it or don't. It's fine. Just wear it or don't. Right. We're in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:02:45 You could not. Well, either one, wear it or don't. But don't wear it half mess. That's like you just being a douche. Very lackadaisical and then like just short and fine. But then my wife ordered. I heard her order what she did. And she ordered this cucumber roll.
Starting point is 00:03:01 She ordered a cucumber and avocado roll. And she made sure that she said that because last time she did, they put the salad in in the roll, brings her the same one. But she also ordered a shrimp tempura. Heard her clear his day. Guy comes back and she's like, oh, I never got the shrimp tempore.
Starting point is 00:03:15 He goes, you didn't order a shrimp tempura. And I said, yes, she did, dude. And he goes, no, she didn't. And I said, let me talk to the manager. And it's the only time in my, I can ever remember I made the biggest zero where the tip goes. And I just, and I said, that's what you get. In general, the servers out here are just atrocious across the board.
Starting point is 00:03:34 and I actually think it's because when I was a server back east, I don't know if this ever was for you. Well, it was always here. But in Boston, I worked at a bar restaurant for seven, eight years. And we made $2 an hour because you don't have to make minimum wage because you're working off tips. And out here, you have to make minimum wage. So a lot of them just don't care. And a lot of them pool tips too.
Starting point is 00:03:57 But even so, it's like minimum wage. I mean, it's funny you say that because when I worked to California Pizza Kitchen, I was like, okay, I'm just getting paid minimum wage. I used to give people away my table. But I was good to the tables, though, when I came in. But when tables came in and there was one table, I would give it away. You just didn't want to. Didn't want anything to do with it.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah. I was terrible. Yeah, because you're making your money and, like, some people out here. If you don't have kids, if you don't. Yeah. And people. But that's not a good job for you then. It's not.
Starting point is 00:04:24 It was not a good job for me. And it was really bad at it. I was really bad at it. Wow. And then when I was at the sushi place and the guy, and next time, if you ever mentions, how's your wife doing? Keep my wife's now I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:04:41 There you go. Let's talk morbius. I'm going to. That's the best part of it. Is that my best? It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad.
Starting point is 00:04:50 It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad. I know what world we're in right now where you're doing good impressions. Are you doing the YouTube shorts? No. I just did one the other day for the first time. It did fine. It was a six, seven thousand views.
Starting point is 00:05:03 But I just, someone's like, because I was talking about this channel and I, and I, I, I think that there's certain times, depending on what we're going to cover. Today we're going to cover Morbius. And so the title of the episode will be Morbius spoiler discussion. So that's basically what people come in and check out. And let's say something breaks, like some big casting thing. And we cover it for like 10 minutes. People might not know that we covered it.
Starting point is 00:05:23 So I'm thinking about clipping it out and doing that. Not like people were right. They were certain people were like, well, don't clog the feeds. I don't want to do that. I've done that before. And we just do that in Collider. It's obnoxious, right? You just clip everything out.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Even when we're in Collider Live, we clipped everything out. I just want to clip out, like, certain things. And then some people were, we should do YouTube shorts. So I was like, I'll try one out. So I just, I had taken a picture, which I'll have a funny story about the Morvious screening. We go into, idiot, I am. So we went to. I saw you posted an empty theater.
Starting point is 00:05:52 So I was like, I don't think he's in the right place. I was, though, because I got there way before anybody. What time did you get there? Half hour before. Okay, so I got there around the same time. So, yeah, so nobody was in the theater. Nobody. When I got there, I was one of five people.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Okay. So we were in the same. We've been the same. But there was no one. in the theater. So I took a picture of the, no, I'm like, this is great. I hope it stays like this.
Starting point is 00:06:11 And then it was like that for another five minutes. And then Alonzo Dorale came in and then a few other people come in. And I'm like, oh, all right, well, guess not all the people want to see because we're in there for like 15, 20 minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And then I see. Where were you? I was right next door. It was the theater right next to it. It was the prime theater or whatever, not the prime, but whatever that next theater is right next to it. Like literally.
Starting point is 00:06:30 So you were in the wrong theater. Yes. And I was in the wrong theater. We were sitting in that theater. And I'm like, And I see Jermaine Lucia post in a morbiose screening 10 a.m. And I'm like, I'm looking around for Jermaine. I'm like, you're not in this theater.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And I go, that's not, they don't even have the damn morbius like thing on the screen. And I'm not. Cuckoo, but no, birds, tweet, tweet, tweet, nothing going on in my head. Nothing. Thank God. Alonzo goes, I got to go the bathroom. Alonzo goes to the bathroom. He comes back.
Starting point is 00:06:56 He goes, I think we're in the wrong screening. He now says the whole theater. The five people. Four people that were in there. Yeah. And we all got up and left. But like. Why were you all in there?
Starting point is 00:07:06 It just, for some reason, we all just kind of gravitated. It was a little confusing. It looked like it was theater two. And it looked like theater two was pointing to that direction. But we all also caught up in, he and I were talking for a while. We were caught up in a conversation for a bit and didn't even pay attention to it. By the time that you came into the theater, I thought you weren't going to be able to get a seat. I didn't think I was going to get a seat either.
Starting point is 00:07:27 When Alonzo and I started walking in, I'm going, I don't think we're going to get seats now. Yeah. Now that, because when we walked in, there was tons of people walking and I'm like, oh, because I, you know me, I'm always there at half an hour early. Yeah, me too. I am. Well, we sit in the same place. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I'm never, I always get there half an hour early because of that reason. I don't like looking for seats. I don't like sitting in the front. I like to get my particular seats. My wife hates how I am when it comes to movies because like I've got to be there a certain time. I like to sit down. I like to relax. I like to have a little time before we ease into the movie.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I hate getting there and then it just starts. I hate that too. Also, if I'm being perfectly honest, there's some people I don't want to sit next to. Fair. And sometimes you walk in, it's the only seat left if you're late. And you have to do it.
Starting point is 00:08:10 There are some critics who have the worst reactions during movies. Like, you can feel them rolling their eyes a whole time. I was like, come on, man. It's just don't want to right now. So we were sitting by comedians. Critics like that. And I turned to my friend,
Starting point is 00:08:26 and I said, over or under seven times of the, the big belly laughs to mock the movie. And we both said, I had picked the under, he had said the over and he was right. It was like nine belly laughs. Damn.
Starting point is 00:08:42 See, I laugh, but I genuinely think things are funny. I'm not trying to mock the movie. No, I laughed one time. I laughed. What was the thing that I laughed?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Because we're talking about, spoilers. So I might as well, oh, what the hell was it? Oh, oh, there's a scene where,
Starting point is 00:08:56 so again, this is spoilers for people who've seen morbis. And some people are going to be watching this because they don't give a shit about the movie anyway. But there's a scene where Morbius is fighting Matt Smith in the train station.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And he does that dancing? That was hilarious. I didn't laugh out loud of that one. But no, the dance was good. But no, they're fighting and there's like extras and people walking by. And this woman walks by and she just goes like this.
Starting point is 00:09:18 There's two vampires fighting in the middle of the subway. Casual. The woman next to me goes, what the hell's going on? And I was like, that was her reaction was great. Although she had a notebook the whole time. The notebook stuff sucks too.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And I get it. You're doing your job. I know. She was an older lady. She probably didn't remember a lot of stuff too. I know. That bothers me less than the seven belly laughs in the back. But like it was the, it's the notebook.
Starting point is 00:09:41 She's doing the notebook. But then we both reacted the same way when the lady just looks like, oh, there's two vampires just fighting the middle of a subway. That's cool. I got to get Starbucks. You don't know the world she's living in. That might be just everyday life, especially based on the ending. It seems like there's a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Let's talk about that ending first. So people, I said on my, and I at this point I've probably done a spoiler review also. But people, in my non-spoiler, I said, I got to talk about these post-credit scenes. What's happening? Michael Keaton appears in the multi, he appears out of the multiverse. You see it start to crack the way it did in No Way Home, the purple in the back. And then he just appears. No explanation really why, except they say it on a news report that Adrian Tooms has just appeared.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Now he's going to get off. He says something like the food's much better. He said, I hope the food's better in this joint, meaning the double. on Tandra as far as this this he knows he's in a different universe yeah okay well how how did he get there why did he get there why did he get there why was he transferred there when the spell was was spider man i don't know so that's part one part two is in the second credit scene this entire movie michael morbius is trying to do the right thing and he realizes that after he killed all those mercenaries which we'll talk about also how it's okay to kill them um but it's fine it's fine
Starting point is 00:10:58 you kill it whoever you want we don't know if if some of those merks were just doing it because they had to. We don't know. We don't know. But it's okay to kill them because they're Merks. But either way, he realizes that he doesn't want, he doesn't want that venom in anyone else.
Starting point is 00:11:11 He doesn't want it. He's got to just do his thing and he wants to be good. And that's ultimately what he does at the end. And then he goes on the run. And then Vulture shows up in the technology from the other galaxy. How did he bring that over? How did he get that here? Pocket.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Okay. And then he says, hey, you want to team up and fight Spider-Man? Yeah, it sounds interesting. Wait, what? Maybe we should team up. Right. And Spider-Man is... In a sinister kind of way.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And who's Spider-Man in that galaxy? Is it Tom Holland? Yeah. I guess. I don't have answers for you because... Nobody has answers. In the trailer, we had a different Keaton scene. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:50 So I don't know what happened there. And there was obviously so many rewrites. I mean, this movie changed dates as recently as like two months ago. I remember they were like... Actually, April. fools it's coming down. I was hoping the whole thing was just a big scam and there's never any movie to start. But we we changed dates recently. They did so many reshoots. So I don't know what their initial Michael Keaton plan was. Obviously this was not it. It changed dramatically. So I don't know. Well, look at this shot.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Like that, that's never in the movie. Yeah. And this is the biggest giff on on Twitter for it. Yeah. That's not because it's because you would assume from that shot and for audio people, we're looking at a shot of Morbius walking in his get-up. He is in jail at one point. He breaks out. So that's clearly when he breaks out. He's a blanket on him? It seems like it.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I mean, I don't know why he's cold. He's a vampire. He's sleeping on the street. I guess so. But either way, he walks out. And then there's this shot of Spider-Man that says murderer. You would assume that that's someone who thinks that he killed Jake Gyllenhaal. But then the question is, are they part of that galaxy or not part of that galaxy or that universe?
Starting point is 00:12:57 It doesn't make any sense. I don't know. They genuinely, they don't know. But here's what they decided. We're not going to put out this movie without having some semblance of a reference to Sinister 6 or Spider-Man. We're not doing that. And we've already billed Michael Keaton.
Starting point is 00:13:14 So we are going to shoehorn this in if it's the last thing we do. And the audience is going to love it because they love Michael Keaton. And to be honest, there was about 10% of the audience who did feel that way, at least in the screening we did. I was sitting next to Dorena, Doreena was like, yes. She's a Michael Keaton like, she's a stand. She was like, that's the best part of the movie.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I was like, I don't even know what just happened. Yeah, it definitely wasn't the best part of the movie because it just, it was just thrown in there. Yeah. It just doesn't have a, there's nothing, it doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:13:41 It's not gearing up to anything that makes sense. And nothing that led up to it made sense for that to be it. Because like you said, we've, a whole hour and 50 minutes has been like, this dude's the good one. Yeah. And then he teams up to,
Starting point is 00:13:54 and then he teams up to fight. And plus the fact... Spider-Man who's not his villain. No, and we left, we left Vulture protecting Spider-Man. Yeah. Because he didn't want to tell, he didn't want to tell the, they're like, well, rumors you know who he is. Like, nah, I don't know who he is.
Starting point is 00:14:09 And so both of them shouldn't have any beef with Spider-Man at this point. He still has beef. I understand why Vulture still has beef with them because he put him in there and he still has that thing. He still wants to get him, but it's like... Completely, but I'm saying the two of them, like after that, it doesn't make any sense. Right. And also, how did he know about Morbius?
Starting point is 00:14:25 Right. I mean, well, I mean, Morbius is pretty famous at this point. Remember all the doctors and stuff. But Voltruj just got there. Well, we don't know how long, how long that was. Oh, I guess. That's true. Like, is maybe. When is that? Right. There's, that, there's a lot of questions.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And the thing is, it's just, that's, the overall movie itself did feel like late 90s, early 2000s movie. And that seems to be what Sony is going for with Venom and Venom 2 and this movie. It didn't feel like a modern. And look, if that's their style and that's what they're doing, if this movie makes money, then you can see them continue to do that because it's working for them clearly. I just thought it was, I didn't hate watching it though. Yeah. I didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:15:03 No, neither did I. I think it was good. They didn't think it was good, but I didn't mind watching it. Did I make this up at one point? Did we hear, I'm venom? Yes. Okay, that really happened. And I was like, huh.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah, they did throw that in. Yeah, that's an interesting moment. A lot of that stuff was, like, and what I said in my review, that people were laughing at, which I stick by. Did you, did it see, there's a lot of clanging, clanging, bumping and slow motion and bong, bong, yeah, yeah, bong, yeah, bong, bong, like so much. And like some of the slow motion was so bad and so cheesy.
Starting point is 00:15:40 And like there's a lot of hissing. Yeah. A lot of hissing. When we're like dissipating and then it's slow mo, that was really tough. And then there's a 10 minute period. It really felt like 10 minutes in the middle of the movie. That's all VO of him explaining now what kind of blow. what he can drink or what he can't drink.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And we already had figured it all out. We knew that right. He already told us. He already told us. We harped on it for 10 minutes. Just kind of like a montage sequence that looked like a graduation video with somebody speaking over it. And all of a sudden I was like, bummer, man.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Because I actually up to that point was like, I'm not loving this movie, but it is, it's painting. Yeah. It's like 15 minutes. And then after that I was like, oh, no, we have another hour left of this. I know. Oh, no. What I will tell you, though, as Doreena says the best part of it,
Starting point is 00:16:24 is Michael Keaton, I will tell you that the best part of the movie was her. Yeah, this girl's awesome. Who is she? So she was in, what the hell was she in? What the hell was she in? Andrea, what is her last name? But anyway. I don't know, Dee says it really sexy, though.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I can't pronounce it that. Well, I'm not going to try it. But I'll tell you right now, let me get the, I'll bring it up in just a moment. If I can find the damn thing. She was really good. She was very natural. Yeah, but I'll tell you why I'm a, Adrian Adjonia
Starting point is 00:16:56 Arjonia. Yeah, there she is. She's not verified. How is she not verified? She'll be verified very soon. You have more followers than she does. Not for long. She is fantastic.
Starting point is 00:17:07 She's awesome. And she is the best part of this movie because she makes this ridiculous dialogue. You kind of feel for her and you believe her and you feel for her. You know, you understand kind of more. She's actually going to be in the Rogue One series, which I'm very excited about now.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, I didn't. I knew nothing about her. She was in Pacific. Rim, Emerald City, true detective, Life of the Party, but this is the one, she's a standout in this role. She clearly is a standout in this role. What happens when she hit her head?
Starting point is 00:17:33 She hits her head. And then she goes like a coma or something. There's no blood. Nothing. She hits her head and she's out for like a long time. She's in bad shape. They're like, we're waiting for her to wake up. And then she wakes up, and that's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:17:48 So she gets a little bit of blood in his mouth, blood in her mouth, and then she becomes a vampire, Well, because he bites her, but I thought he's not that kind of vampire. If you bite a vampire, do they just become, wouldn't you have to have blood? Oh, because she had the blood and then he bit. No, I know what the rules were. That's my number one thing about this movie. This movie had no rules.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And then any rules that it kind of made up, it was like, never mind jokes on you guys. Like, the way we move, sometimes we fly. Sometimes we don't even fly. And then sometimes we disappear and dissipate. And clanging. And clang, clang, clang. Clang, back together. Like I think that this movie genuinely they were like, does it look cool?
Starting point is 00:18:26 And people were like, yeah, it kind of looks cool. And they're like, word. Well, then just go with that. It's got Spider-Man connections somehow. Yeah. We'll market it off of that. Bizarre. And I mean, even the beginning made no sense.
Starting point is 00:18:36 So he gets to Costa Rica and he cuts his hand, he puts it up and all the bats come flying in. Yeah, that's weird. Why don't the bats attack him? I don't explain that either. The bat storyline was not working in this movie. It was not working. No. He's Batman, though.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah, he is. legit Batman. Yeah. Not, not this poser. This is a real, real Batman. When he said,
Starting point is 00:18:55 I'm venom. I want him to say, I'm vengeance. But like, Spider-Man got bit by a spider. Electric, uh, like,
Starting point is 00:19:02 what's his name? Electro, electric eels, right? Batman just liked bats, bats and dressed all about this guy's Batman. He's got, he's got bat blood in them and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And there's merit to it. I get it in the old vampire thing. But the way that they were doing it, I actually felt for the bats. Like I tried to feel for them. And the mouse is the testing. It was, Right.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And, you know, then the mouse woke up and was fine. And that whole thing, the way that's, and then what happened to the little girl? They didn't even explain what happened to the little girl. She breaks out and sweats. And then, yeah, you just gave her the fake blood or the artificial blood or whatever they gave her. And then she's back to normal. And the whole, I mean, the stuff that I did like was the beginning stuff when you had Morbius and, and it didn't really explain the Milo thing and why.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Why is that his name? What's the name? Why did we do that? Yeah, he changes his name to Milo. Didn't you think he was kind of a dick when he did that? Yeah. He gives me a different name. I'd be like, no, no, Roxy.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Right. Yeah, can you actually call me my real name? Is that all right? And I mean, the bit's done. Yeah. The bit's done. But for his whole life now, he's Milo. Yeah, and at the very end, they want you to get sentimental where he calls him his real name.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Like, you asshole, the guys laying down basically dead. Now you call him by his real name. It's like, so, yeah, all that made not too much sense, but then, oh, and the Jared right stuff, I thought was pretty, was pretty great, too. I mean, I thought he, the mentor bit, but even him, the cast is really good. Yeah. The cast is really good. Even though Jared Leto bothers the crap out of me.
Starting point is 00:20:29 In this, he was pretty decent. He's good. You know he's great and is that the Wii? No, he's awful. In the Wii? What's it called? We what? We crashed.
Starting point is 00:20:37 He crashed. Is Israeli accent is so egregious. See, I don't, I don't know it well enough to say if it's, if it's bad. Oh. You know it. It's so bad. And it's just like, I get it. We are on a whole tendency now that none of the Jews are ever played by Jews.
Starting point is 00:20:49 That's fine. but like this is Israeli man there's so many and his Israeli accent is so bad it's hard for me to listen to all right see I don't I don't I can't I don't know it well enough I also like him so I think it's not fair because of the whole like sending used condoms and all the dead animals I think I people how he was even closely talked about for nomination of uh of house of Gucci is ridiculous yeah he's so over being a bad accents he's Luigi yeah and that is oh oh my goodness I'm a Gucci and Anne Hathway is just really talented and so I think it's it's I think it's I think it's having a tough time. But in this, he didn't bother me. And also, I've never once thought this, but I thought he looked really hot in this. Maybe I have a thing for vampires. Yeah. I mean, well, the guy's jacked his shit when he,
Starting point is 00:21:29 when he's, after he becomes, after he gets that first dose of blood and he's all jacked up. Did you ever see Lost Boys? Yeah. Do you remember it well? All I know is that you and Doreena kept screaming that Michael thing over and over again. I don't remember that though. I mean, that's the, the, the, the key for Sutherland is basically
Starting point is 00:21:48 the lead character Jason Patrick is is Michael, right? And so the whole time, Michael, Michael. But that's not the thing, though. Like, so Matthew Smith, who I like a lot. I love him. So cartoonish and ridiculous in this movie. Oh, man, here's my favorite part of the movie.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And he's, and he's dancing and he's doing these weird things. But the thing that he, I turned to, uh, to Ben, and I said, you know, this reminds me of the main villain in Lost Boys, not Cuba Sutherland, but the main bad vampire, like his, like the prequel and like his origin story because he's so, it's like, he's, he's, he's, he's, He looks really silly when he's in full vampire. I thought it was so good. But he looked silly. No, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I thought he was groovy. Did you really? You thought it worked for you? I thought it worked so well because the movie is so egregious. It is. That he was having fun. And I was like, at least do your thing.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Like, anytime he saw him dancing and doing his thing, I enjoyed watching him. I don't know that it was peak performance. Right, right. But you had fun watching him. Oh, God. I can understand that for sure. Like I said, as I was saying,
Starting point is 00:22:50 sitting there and Ben and whispered this is terrible. I said, it is, but I don't hate watching it. Yeah, yeah. Like, that was the thing is that I didn't mind. It just felt like a movie. I was like, okay, I got to see. And maybe it's because I haven't been in the movies that much. And like, it's like, when movies
Starting point is 00:23:06 feel like a chore to be there, that's when I'm like, oh, get me out. I didn't feel like it was a chore. I just felt it was like, and Tyrese and Al Madrigal were not great cops. They were fine. Well, we got that one moment about the arm and then nothing else about it. I saved his arm in Afghanistan, and I was like, I'm actually interested.
Starting point is 00:23:23 That was a great. I'm interested. Yeah. So how do you feel about him? Are you going to, I thought that was going to come back into play. He was actually going to end up protecting him or saving him, like. And it just doesn't. And I was just sitting there.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Okay. Yeah, that's what I meant more so. Both performances I thought were good. Yeah. Like, because Al I like very much. And same thing was serious. I thought the performances were not what I mean when I say bad cops. They were legit bad cops.
Starting point is 00:23:46 They were bad at their jobs. And, and it's like, and it's just kind of cliche. of like, why even haven't been there to kind of investigate them? They're not going to catch them. Come on. And then even when Al is, and this is not an Al magical problem, this is the director. The director was terrible. This is if, I don't even know who directed is.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Same director of Child 44. How pathetic is that that? I don't even know. This movie has been filming for like five effing years and I don't even know who did this movie. Listen, I don't know. I'm telling you, I don't even pay attention to. I didn't pay attention to who. I didn't pay attention to it.
Starting point is 00:24:20 any of this stuff. I'll tell you a second. His name is Daniel Espinoza. I have no idea who that is. So Daniel Espinoza directed. You got to click on him. Yes. I do.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I haven't used I NDB in a while. Daniel Espinoza directed. Oh, at least he's got his looks. Let's see. Red Platoon, whatever the hell that is. Morbius, life, not good. Child 44, not great. Safe house was okay.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Safe house was all right. I don't know any of these other ones. Snap a cash. what that is. Outside love, I don't know what that is. Huh. And he did some short films, but the only ones of No. Child 44 was I didn't see any of these. I was very excited for Child 44 when it came out
Starting point is 00:25:00 and I was, because I love Tom Hardy and Gary Oldman, but it just wasn't good. It's kind of boring. I remember correctly. How was the direction? The Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x E. It's electrified. Boogie, wooge, wooge. So you can boogie,
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Starting point is 00:25:39 U.S. LLC. You don't remember. I don't remember. Not enough that stood out. And then you get, I wonder how he got, how he booked this gig. I wonder if he was
Starting point is 00:25:50 a really big Morbius fan or if he was already working with Sony or what yeah maybe good in the room that's a lot of times people get they get these jobs are good in the room yeah I didn't have as much of an issue with the direction as I did with the script I mean it was the script was a script was a major problem just all over the place yeah and and because I did like as you said the beginning of it because and it was about as predictable of a movie that you're ever going to get how many times have we seen the best friend and turns all the time like the the brilliant guy who creates something and then realizes that he maybe did something wrong and then he's got to fix it and then somebody else who he's close to gets a hold of it and then he's got to stop that guy it's like they were so and i
Starting point is 00:26:30 love their relationship i love the relationship that they set up between with milo and and him right i love that whole thing and the and the beginning scene with the kids i thought was great he's he's off to he's brilliant and jared right sees it and says okay go go do your thing become become brilliant and do and go to school and I'll watch this dude. And then you have that you see, I like that idea where he kind of went into organized, and organized crime on the darker side of things, right? And he hits the kid in the face with the,
Starting point is 00:27:00 with the crutch in the beginning. Like, oh, he's got a bit of an anger. And then you could see why he would then get into that place, which also didn't make sense, by the way. Jared Leto shows up, and they want you to show you how smart he is. So when the guy says, I'm so cripples here to see the boss,
Starting point is 00:27:13 the boss is crippled too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What are he talking about? What if the boss hears you say that stupid? It's like, oh, they just wanted to show you that he speaks the language. It's like it was so bad. The writing was so bad. But, yeah, like that relationship was great.
Starting point is 00:27:28 You didn't need to make him the bad guy. Going back to the universe thing in that initial conversation with them when he says, you're going to go to New York school for the gifted. So what universe are we in there? I don't know. I don't know what. It felt like there was something. We should know what the school was.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I was like, oh, is this an X-Men thing happening? right here. Right, but that doesn't tie in to X-Men or does it? And again, I haven't listened to any reviews, so I probably sound like an idiot right now and somebody's screaming at home like, this is exactly what you should have, Coy on the show.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Honestly, when I heard that and the audience was like, oh, and I was like, oh. I didn't understand it either. When Coy and Winston are on, I'll ask them also because I have, that's when they're on, I asked them all the deep dive shit. Yeah, because I just hear school for the gifted
Starting point is 00:28:14 and I think X-Men, but I was like, I think maybe there's something out of missing. But even if it was, It's like they just throw it in there, but it doesn't explain anymore. And like, does it tie? Is it supposed to tie into X-Men? If not, like, it's, there was, they just try to give you a lot of, like, to me,
Starting point is 00:28:30 I get upset sometimes when people are like, oh, all this is like, like for when they did a Boba Fett. Like, oh, just a bunch of member berries, right? Yeah, but it's all relevant. Right, but it's relevant to the story. When you do stuff like that where it's just, you're just throwing it in, it's like, hey, hey, hey, you guys, does that sound recognizable to you? That's why you should like this movie.
Starting point is 00:28:47 There's Michael Keaton. What's he doing here? Who cares? It's Michael Caden. Yeah. No. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I'm with you. I just, I feel stupid in those moments because I am nerdy and I do watch all of these things. Right. And then I'm like sitting there for five minutes missing it because I'm, I'm racking my brain. Okay, who started school recently?
Starting point is 00:29:04 I'm trying to go through all the different. You just got to let it go. No, that's not a school. And it's more. And then you have to say, well, wait, that's Marvel not MCU.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah, what's Sony allowed to do? But then is this actually Marvel or is it MCU now that? it's now that we've got the Spider-Man crossover and Spider-Man can be in the other things. That's the whole point. It just wasn't, it wasn't explained well. Yeah. What do you think they're legit trying to do?
Starting point is 00:29:28 I don't know. Yeah, you don't know. I really don't. I don't know how to look at those two scenes and try to predict anything because it's like, I don't understand the rule, as you said, the rules, not even for the movie in general, like the post-credit scenes, like, wait, but that's not what I thought what Dr. Strange explained because when he did his spell, like, I get that he sent venom, back because Venom's not supposed to be there.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Like when Venom disappeared back into the Sony universe, because basically what it was is they set up that Eddie and Venom, they're not bad dude, so they didn't try to go kill Spider-Man. They were going to go talk to Spider-Man, and instead they got drunk at a bar. So right before they've been hanging out in the universe, and right before they were ready to go talk and do their thing, they disappeared back to the universe.
Starting point is 00:30:08 That made sense to me. But why in the world would Michael Keaton, out of nowhere, go and maybe they're going to explain it? Do you think the order of things just got so effed up with COVID that... I think that's part of it. That like, because Dr. Strings were supposed to come out a different time, and Spider-Man was supposed to come out a different time, and this was supposed to invent them,
Starting point is 00:30:27 and it was supposed to be different. Like, everything was supposed to be different. And then they all were like, actually, we don't even care what order comes out and just put up the effing content. Like Wanda vision at a different time. They just were like, no, put it all out. Maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Do you know you can't even say that word anymore without YouTube not monetizing and maneuvering? Wandavision? No, the... Can't say Wanda vision. You cannot say Wanda vision. No, the C word. Before, before, before, the thing that changed the world. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:30:53 Really? No way. Yeah. I was like, I thought you meant the other C word. I was like, did I just say that? You see you next Tuesday, yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I'm sorry. People. No, you didn't, you didn't know. I just realized I was, I was talking to as we were doing like some, we're doing like the monetization on the channel. Like, well, YouTube's not pushing this one because somebody mentioned, like said it just like that. So stupid.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Can you say quarantine? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what you can say. Sometimes, and they won't even tell you what it is. They said because of offensive, a potential offensive comments. That was offensive of me. I'm sorry to Wanda Vision.
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Starting point is 00:33:54 So I'm just curious. Probably not good for you. Yeah, I wonder what happens if I take this. This is the thing. This is more of like a supplement. And I cause I, I don't know any issues at all. I was like, again, we got the sponsors. I'll try it.
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Starting point is 00:34:17 like, felt like it was a hangover and was hurting. And I was like, oh, and I slept like, and kind of like a little bit of a headache. This stuff, it's like,
Starting point is 00:34:25 it's like, it's like same thing when you just poured in a drink packet, workout. And it has nothing to do with having any issues at all. It's just a matter of, hey, like you said,
Starting point is 00:34:33 when you go to the, you can lift weights, but you take a, you take a little bit of supplement and you feel like you lift weights, lift weights just a little better. That makes sense. So you dating anybody?
Starting point is 00:34:43 Because I'll give you a packet. I don't know. I wonder how they would take it. Take this. Just try this. So you're not having any problems. Is this free sponsor? You want to try it?
Starting point is 00:34:52 Because that's the thing with dudes. Every one of the dudes that I've been here while I'm reading, they all want to try it. Yeah. Because it has nothing to do with it. I'm not having problems. It's like, okay, look, it's spice it up. Let's spice it up. And I think for dudes, for dudes that are into women, I can't speak for dudes who are into men because
Starting point is 00:35:07 I don't know how men feel. But for dudes who are into women, I would find that very sexy. if somebody was like ready to go so they wanted to spice it up and try something. I know that a lot of men think that they're like insulting a woman if they take something, but is that? No, but no.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Women think it's the opposite. Like if you want to please somebody, if you want to be ready to go, then women love that. It's basically just, this whole thing is when you say, look, you know I don't have any problems, but let's see times 100.
Starting point is 00:35:35 And look, there's one thing if you don't have any problems. If you do, then go ahead. This will take away the problems. So it's because like I said, I don't want, I was like, I'm not going to just tell people how great it is if I don't think it's great. What'd your wife think? She didn't know. She didn't know. I didn't tell her.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And now what she watches this, she'll know. But I didn't tell her. I did tell her that I got the thing. And I said, I'm going to try it. She's going to be like, that's what that night was. That's what that night was. But either way, it was, it was the, it wouldn't, didn't change, make it like, it was a different person. It was just like, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It's you. Yeah. But it's the feeling. You feel like it's like, okay, let's do it. It was more like, you know, I'm older now, so I want to go to sleep. Yeah. And I was like, I didn't want to go sleep. I feel like I'm part of the boys club.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I want to go to sleep? No. Oh. No. No. I don't need more of that. You don't need more sleep. No.
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Starting point is 00:36:39 I don't know what the hell you've been doing what you're Man. I don't know. Hmm. Hmm. Uh-oh. You dating someone? Uh-no. Seeing someone. You want to talk about it or not really? There's nothing to talk about yet. Nothing yet. I'll let you know if and when there is. No, if you would ask me a few weeks ago, I would have said, I think, but. But things have gone awry. I'm tough. You weren't tough. Yeah. You mean tough to deal with? No. No. Oh, just tough. Yeah, like I'm, I feel like my life right now isn't I thought. I was ready for something for so long and then life hit me in a way that I was like, actually right now might not be the right time in my life. Understood.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Yeah. But I don't know. I'll keep you posted. Please. It's nice to, I'm like back out venturing in the field. And so I have been seeing a few different people, which is the first time I can say that in a really long time. But it's weird dating in your 30s, which you never, did you ever do that? Early.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I met my wife when I was 31. So it's bizarre because at this point, you know exactly what you want. If the other person doesn't have it, then you don't want to be. So it's just such a different game than the last time I was dating. Last time I was dating I was 24 years old. Right. So at that point, it's just like, that's just have fun. So, and now I'm like, you know, get to a couple dates in and it's like,
Starting point is 00:38:00 and you want how many kids and you want to do that at what age and you want and what your work schedule? And it's just like, what? So it does take a little of the sex. It's hard. And it's hard here. Oh my God I was I was seeing this guy from not here for a minute Yeah
Starting point is 00:38:15 But that was hard too Because it's been long It's hard out here But then it's hard if you're out here And somebody's not here So yeah Yeah well I'm on the scene I like that you're on the scene
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yeah it's been it's been wild So we need to like what I do is we When Steph saw him we talked to Steph about Some of the stuff that she goes through Yeah And it's it's bizarre Yeah so weird things have happened to me too Bizarre things and you're
Starting point is 00:38:37 And you just sit there and think like How is this person exist. Right. But they do. But they do. Yeah, they're out there. I'd say we're about even, Steph and I with our weirdos. You guys handle it significantly different, though. What do you mean? I see you being, being able to shoot people off easier. Oh, yeah. Steph has a... She's too nice. She is she is very nice. And what wild is, I know when she's not entertaining an idea. Yes. But they do not know. No. Anybody knows if I'm not entertaining it. Yeah. Like, for me, you know in two seconds. Yeah. Not even if you're romantically interesting, but even if you're not
Starting point is 00:39:10 you're talking in a conversation and you don't want to be part of the conversation anymore, you just turn to the road. Yeah, I've been in those conversations with you before. No. Yeah, if there's something you don't want to talk about and you turn. Oh, yeah. I'm done with this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:21 I'll just say it, but she does not. She is so sweet. Yeah. It is an amazing quality she has. She's just so nice. Right, but it also, but for people who don't get it, we'll sit there go, oh, I got a shot with this girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:34 You don't. And the amount of guys that message me, like, even the people that we know that call me and they're like, you think I got a shot with staff and I'm like, no. No. No. And they're like, why? I feel like we had this conversation.
Starting point is 00:39:48 We had this connection. I'm like, I'm telling you no. And they keep trying and I'm like, do you think I'm lying to you? Like, no, I'm telling you. She's not saying. And the answer is it's no. She's just nice. She's super nice.
Starting point is 00:39:58 She's nice. She has a type. It doesn't mean like flirty. Right. She's being nice. She's being nice. She's being nice. Everybody wants Steph.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I've never met somebody that more men want in my entire life. It's funny though. It's probably why she's probably why she's got an issue with finding the right one because there's so many of these people like every she gets hit from all angles like if we go out i i and i have beautiful friends i've never seen anything like it yeah you're welcome i've never seen anything like it like the the way in which people approach her is unlike i've never it's as if she like what you think of when you watch a tv show about the biggest a list celebrity on the planet and she walks in and it's it she walks in
Starting point is 00:40:38 in every single person, it's incredible. Yeah. It's incredible. And everyone will drink for free. Like, I'll drink for free. Just being in her orbit. Right. But you know, it's funny, though, now that you're getting into your early 30s, it's like
Starting point is 00:40:49 that the appeal of the drinking for free starts to go away. Oh, now I have money, not a lot of it, but enough that I don't want your drink. Right. And it comes to place just like, just like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. I don't have that luxury right now, though, because I'm dating. and so you have to, you're, I'm on the, especially in your early 30s. I'm on the scene scene and it's like, oh my God. But I remember, I mean, shoot, now, but I can remember when I was, right before I met my wife,
Starting point is 00:41:17 and I was dating someone at the time. And I was 30, 31, and I was dating someone, it was 24 at the time. And I was significantly younger than me at the time. At the time, because I've always, like, either liked women either older than me or, or generally in the same area, right? And she was significantly younger. And I remember she was like out until four or five. She came over one night when I, I don't know where the hell I was working and it came back. She came over one night and it was like three in the morning and she entered my house with a rum and coke still in here.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And I was, and I was, and I just steal it from the bar. I don't know what the hell, where it came from. Where it came from? It was on my, it was in my room the next day. And then you knew. That was the day you were like, nah, this isn't going to work. I just said, I just knew. I just knew what it was.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Yeah. And I'm like, you know, there was no, there was. she might have been the last woman I dated before I met my wife. But it was like, yeah, but you just know where you are in your point, that point in your life, where you're like, nah, I'm not, I'm not there. I used to be. Yeah. I used to be.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Who knows what the hell I used to take home from the bars. Not women, I'm talking about like the drinks. Because you can't call them what, Christian. No, I can't do that. No, you don't call them what anymore. But you can do that anymore. Have you not heard of Twitter? They'll take you out.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Who knows what I used to say? No, who knows what I, but my, but speaking to that as far as the, when it came to which women we would wind up to, who you'd go home with. Very respectful. My old roommate was like, I mean, this guy was, was, they called him the dirty gentleman, right? It's a great nickname.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Dirty gentleman. Who's they though? Like all people, like women? Enough. Yeah, and a woman deemed him that and then it stuck with all friends and then everybody else to. And so it was the dirty gentleman. And he could go home with the most beautiful woman in the bar, most beautiful woman in the bar, right? I couldn't do that. For me, it was like I had to be somebody that I was definitely. Attracted to. Not him. And I think that's why he got the moniker.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Good for him, though. I guess. I mean, look, whatever makes you happy. Whatever, whatever makes you happy. As long as you're honest. That's what it was. But then even them, safe, grew out of being married with two kids, lives. comfortably and, you know, half the year in France, half the year in Florida. It's amazing. I don't know many France, Florida people. I feel like, that's an interesting combo. It's a dirty gentleman.
Starting point is 00:43:51 You see, figured it out. And what did the ultimate selection end up looking like? Very attractive. Okay, good. Very attractive, yeah. I'm not good. And a sweetheart. No, and a sweetheart.
Starting point is 00:44:01 And a sweetheart of a lady. And if I can't even, I mean, it doesn't matter. You know who else he dated for a while? Bonnie. Oh. Yeah. It's like, so like, I mean, telling you. Like, it was just.
Starting point is 00:44:13 How is Bonnie? I haven't talked to her. She's good. I think she's, you know, she's getting ready for the, the big day, the wedding. Oh, no way. Yeah. Wow. Are you going?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Are you invited? Yeah, I'm not sure when it is, though. So. You said, no, yeah. I'm not sure because everything is. You don't know if you're invited? No, I am, but everything is moved. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Everything still gets moved. All right. I know. Let's, let's move to another topic. Oh. You like that? It was a good transition. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Did you watch Moon Night yet? Yeah. And no, you don't like it. Oh, what did you say like that? I said, yeah, because I just feel a fight coming, not with me and you. Yeah. I have heard that people hate this. Weird.
Starting point is 00:44:46 And I didn't, I didn't love it. I'm not sitting there like, this is my favorite show, but I'm watching it. I was like, what is that really talking about? I think it was. What's the criticism? Because I don't pay attention to people. People who love Moon Night, the character, they're not like it. Okay. I don't know Moon Night well.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Me either. The only time I ever even heard about it was through. Schnapp. Yeah. Snap used to talk to me about it all the time. So I, who's, who's, what are they, because it's not true to the character? So the, the person I mainly have been talking to is DJ Waldridge, who is like,
Starting point is 00:45:16 a diehard moon night. Okay. So he hates it. I, he is having a really hard time. And he, he's, like, annoyed and mad about it. Like, how could you mean? And decisions that he's upset about, I have no idea what he's talking about. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:45:30 So I'm sure he's right that that is what. Because he knows. character well enough. Right. But for me, just somebody who is like, all right, I'm interested in watching this. I think it's kind of fun. Me too. Yeah. And I've seen, have you seen all four?
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah. Right. So the four episodes that I, did he watch all four also? Yeah. Okay. So he's got more. There are times that I, because I thought the first episode was incredible. Me too.
Starting point is 00:45:53 The third episode dipped a little bit. Yeah. A little convoluted. We ended up somewhere that I was like, where am I? Yeah. And they also pop into a little bit like, because they do sell you on the darker Marvel series, right and they do pop into that marble humor a little bit and in a few of the episodes especially with uh with what's his face um not mark but what's what's the character mark there's mark and that's not
Starting point is 00:46:15 Sean Smith no it's his name Jesse Justin Jeremy oh it's driving me crazy what's his name I'll look it up see that's why we don't know it's not Mark specter it's the other one yeah well you know I'm good at trivia so oh it's driving me crazy what's his name Google faster I know I can't And I can't remember the name of the show at this point. Okay, let's see. Let's see what it is. Stephen Grant. Stephen Grant.
Starting point is 00:46:43 That's a bummer how off I was. Yeah, I mean, we're going to close. No. But either way. So he, but there's some stuff that he does that gets a little goofy, Stephen Grant, part of it. He gets goofy sometimes. And but it comes and goes.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah. But there's certain times that's funny. Like there's a, and I think it's actually in the first episode, so it's not a spoiler. People have, you know, people have the opportunity to see it when F. Murray Abraham, who does the voice of Conchu, which is great. And he's like, oh, no, the idiot's back into control. That's hilarious. Like, that kind of is funny. There's some of the other stuff that pops in. I don't want to spoil
Starting point is 00:47:16 for people if it's not out yet. But I like it. I enjoy it. And I actually really like the fact that he's not in the suit a lot. It's more about the relationship of the two multiple personalities dealing with Conchua. I dig it. I don't even know what we're allowed to say, what we're about to talk about at this point, but I am super curious after the fourth episode of what... Where it goes? Yeah. Because I, at first, when I heard that they dropped four episodes for critics or in our Disney thing, I was thinking four of six.
Starting point is 00:47:47 It's so weird. Yeah. Why would they give us four of six? Usually they give you one or two or maybe three if there's longer, but... The Disney Plus shows, the Marvel Disney Plus shows, they usually start you out with two. But four. So, and so I thought it was going to be a longer season, but it's not. So I was kind of confused, but then I saw it and was like, okay, they wanted us to know that this show might not be going in the direction that we think it is.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Maybe, and I also think that they want you to get to a plate, like I said, because the suited up Moon Knight is not in the first two episodes a lot. He's way more in three and four. And maybe people are you like, oh, you don't even see him in the suit that much. And then you start to see him more in the suit. And you're like, okay, there he is. Yeah. It was weird, though. I don't know how much confidence they have in this show.
Starting point is 00:48:31 show because what was very strange was they dropped it in people's Disney app and they let you watch it again and they didn't tell anybody that it was there. Did they send an email? No. Oh, so maybe maybe that so we like most of us didn't get an email. It was in my thing and I had no idea it was there. Then I got an email saying, wow, we're going to re put it up. Yeah, I got that one too.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Because people didn't know it was there because they hadn't told people. And so there was a theory that they hadn't told people because they kind of were trying to bury it. Did you check spam? Because I got it. Yeah, I've checked. And I've talked to five other people who have done it. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:49:05 The same thing happened? Yes. Interesting. Yeah. So maybe, but they had had those issues with their, with their emailing system for a minute. I think because the only reason I would push back against that is because the trailer itself got a really good response. Really good response.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Yeah. But maybe they didn't think that the show, I don't know. I don't know. But I actually really like it. Because I think that Oscar Isaac is actually really good in it. He's excellent. He's really. And Ethan Hawk is great.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Isn't it funny? Because I remember talking about Ethan Hawke. Hawk back in the day with you and how he made those comments about how he wouldn't want to do superhero stuff and now look at him. Yeah, but he's really good. And I think that Oscar Isaac's accent in the trailer, the British accent, I was like, what is that? And now I, now that I've seen it, I'm like, oh, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:49:46 It makes sense because of where, of why it's not, it's not real. Yeah, it all just makes sense. Yeah, so, I mean, that's for people like, oh, it doesn't sound authentic. It's not supposed to. Yeah, I think it's fine. Yeah. I think it's all, but I like the show. I actually think it's pretty damn it.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I actually like it than a few other shows. I liked it better than Hawkeye, to be honestly. I really liked Hawkeye. See, Hawkeye, I didn't, I liked it. They didn't love it. My wife loved that one, and my wife liked Winter Soldier and Falcon. I like that one, too.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Loki's my favorite. Yeah, not yours. Yeah, we've got opposite. You feel like you're more in what my wife's camp was. Like, I thought Hawkeye was fun, but there's a lot of stuff going on. You talk about a show that should have been longer, that show.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Yeah, they did try to squeeze a lot in that the end. To me, none of the shows yet rival our Netflix shows. I think that they're just not. But they're good enough for me and I'm having fun. Just a lot of them. I can't wait for pushing them out fast. Obi-Wan, though. So excited.
Starting point is 00:50:45 When is that? Well, did you hear the new announcement that came out today or when we're taping this today? When? What? What? Who where? So they did an announcement with E.M. McGregor and he said that first thing to make everybody to let everybody know,
Starting point is 00:50:59 we're just pushing our release date back by two days instead of the 25th that's coming out the 27th so instead that that Wednesday is coming out that Friday April? May it was originally slated to come on May 25th and now it's gone out of day yeah now it's May 27th he said but the good news is that instead of just one episode we're dropping two on the same day on on on Disney Plus that day so you're going to get episodes one and two on what do you make of what happened there that they pushed it two days so I think that the first part of it is that I know that Miss Marvel's coming out. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I thought Miss Marvel was coming out the following week, but maybe not. The strange thing, pun intended, I guess, is that it's going up against stranger things. Same day. Same day. But it's so different because it's not really,
Starting point is 00:51:47 is streaming that much of a competition, like a ratings thing like it used to be if something comes out on ABC and NBC and who's going to watch what? I'll watch Stranger Things tomorrow and I'll watch. Obi-Wan first. That is strange, though, because people,
Starting point is 00:52:02 I'm assuming Stranger Things is going to drop all their episodes at once. Seems like it, yeah. And so that might be the thing that people are trying to binge first. I don't know that it makes a big difference, but you are right. And especially with the Disney model, there is no online discourse immediately about it because it's midnight. It's like, you know, whatever it's out of you.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Oh, okay, I can't watch. What are you going to, this is how it works. Like, my wife's not interested in Obi-1-1, but if she was, I'd be like, what do you want to watch first? Let's watch Well, it's gonna watch first I don't know what to do
Starting point is 00:52:29 I mean, I'm gonna watch Obie 1 I mean obviously I know what you're gonna do Yeah but then but then stranger things I will Maybe we have Maybe we get screener Probably probably of
Starting point is 00:52:39 But you know I would like to see I don't I don't know But the answer your question As far as why I think that it happened Another reason What just happened with you? With my eye
Starting point is 00:52:49 No no no You just You were somewhere I don't know where I want Lack of coffee I think You were here and then you were not.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Welcome to being my wife. Okay, okay. But if I've had a dollar for every time, she said that to me. But either way, to answer your question as far as why I think it might have happened, Star Wars Celebration also is that weekend. It starts on Thursday, which if original release date, Obi-1 comes out the day before celebration starts. So you think announcements are going to be made?
Starting point is 00:53:22 I think that, you know, you're in the height of it. people are people at which is also interesting because those people now at star war celebration are they're probably pissed off honestly because they're like because people who are traveling here I'm like well damn I got they can watch it at night I guess when it drops and in their hotel room and then watch it the next day but you said here it's in LA it's at oh wow yeah damn yeah you're gonna go I think so yeah I mean so we had it's it like when we were doing Collider in 2017 and 2019 we were working with read pop and we got the shmodeown panel which were sold out or maxed out
Starting point is 00:53:58 and the same thing was with Jedi Council and for some reason they had different people moving in and out of Reed Pop so we lost I don't know what happened we lost in translation but it doesn't look like we got approved for the panels which sucks with Mike and myself and Steph we're going to do Sith Council
Starting point is 00:54:11 but I'm pretty sure I'll be shocked that you guys didn't get approved for that I mean I think that it was just because we the way that we were going around and talking to people maybe we didn't talk to the right people and it just got lost. I don't know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:26 It doesn't really matter, to be honest. I'm going to, I'm pretty sure I'll still be going to the panels because I think I'm still on the media list for, for the panels. So hopefully, hopefully, fingers crossed. Sounds really fun. It does. I mean, it could, I mean, there's a lot of things that could be, that could drop,
Starting point is 00:54:44 whether it's the new TV shows, trailers for other things. It's going on while the first two episodes come out. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. So it's, I don't know what the strategy. Something's up.
Starting point is 00:54:57 You don't push something by two days because it's not ready. And bring out two episodes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, instead they're dropping two. Maybe that's what they thought by dropping two episodes. But the question is, are they going to drop both of them at midnight? I really hope we get this. That's when I hope we get the screeners.
Starting point is 00:55:11 They don't usually give you the screeners for a Star Wars series. Lucasfilm doesn't do it. Marvel does. Really? Yeah. I didn't get any? You didn't get Boba Fett and you didn't get Mando. I did?
Starting point is 00:55:20 Oh, I got there animated. Yeah, the Clone Wars. Yeah, and I didn't watch that one. You didn't watch it. Before we move on, I also wanted to tell you guys that another, this is actually something I'm very excited about. And Roxy, you're going to love this one too. Have you heard of Athletic Greens?
Starting point is 00:55:35 You're telling me all the new things today. This one you're going to love because Brett actually tried it first, told me about it, and then I'm pumped, man. I just started using athletic greens. You talk about what we were just talking about before. This is great. It's vitamins, and it's amazing. Our partner has a problem.
Starting point is 00:55:53 that I use every day. And I started taking AG1 because I didn't have a lot of time. I wanted to get better health. I wanted more energy, optimized immune system. And I honestly, I don't like taking pills and vitamins. And I wanted a supplement that actually tastes great and wanted to see what the hype was about. Brett was raving about it. He's like, you got it.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Because I didn't take it for a little bit. I had they sent it to me and I hadn't tried it. And Brett's like, you don't try this soon. I'm taking it all because it's him and his wife have been, have been, using it like religiously and it's super healthy it's kind of a it has like a tropical taste to it and I actually look forward to to having it every morning so what is it with one delicious scoop of AG1 years you're absorbing 75 high quality vitamins minerals whole food sourced superfoods probiotics and adaptogens I just want to say that for me rocks
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Starting point is 00:57:04 So I wanted to try it. I wanted to try it. So I do it in the morning. And it helps. It makes me feel good. It gives me a bit of boost. And as I said to you before, I was a little, I was a little off before because today I missed it.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah. I missed my spots. You can't do that anymore, Chris. You can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I can't. I'm going to bring it with him. I'm doing up. oh, this is something I definitely will be doing. I'm taking it with me. We got a car and I got it in, I bought it in Wyoming, and I'm going to be driving from Wyoming to California, and I will be taking this with me.
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Starting point is 00:58:24 I have been going to the doctors because I, I don't know if you did this. I pushed off all my doctor's appointments for two years. Of course, everybody's that. You're not going. You don't want to go, yeah. So all of a sudden it's like vitamin D deficiency, vitamin C deficiency, you know, just all the things.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And it's like, oh my God, where do you start? So I'll give you a pat. Before you leave, I'll give you a panic. Yeah. Can you tell me about this drive? Yeah, so I'm going, I'm going to Wyoming. So you purchased it? In Wyoming.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Why? Why? Well, because a lot of different reasons. One, I got a pretty good deal there because of personal relationships my father-in-law has. Oh, cool. Part two is that they don't do all the add-ons and all the different things that most dealerships in California and other places are doing. So I got a tremendous deal on the car for stuff because it's like, yeah, just in California they add on all this different stuff and all this. Things that you don't need?
Starting point is 00:59:16 It's the things you don't need. but then still tax, a certain tax that people are adding on and they don't do it. And they just, it's just as it is. It's like this is just, you buy, you buy it comes in.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Well, buying a car right now is a nightmare. Right. I hear from a mutual friend of ours, Sarah Stratton. Yes, what are she doing? She's doing great.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Good. She ordered a car, I'm going to say five months ago. It's not here yet. Just keeps getting delayed, keeps getting delayed. That was the problem. It's legitimately been,
Starting point is 00:59:46 and every month she gets a new message that's it's been delayed. And it's funny you say that because this car was one of those things that this place has been waiting for it for a while. But we just found, they were like, what kind of car you're looking for? We're like this. Well, we actually have one of those supposed to come in. It's supposed to come in a while ago. And it finally came in and we got it.
Starting point is 01:00:05 So I have to drive from Wyoming to get it here. Solo. Going by myself. I'm just going to put on some podcasts. How longs I drive? Take me some athletic greens. Yeah. Probably about two days.
Starting point is 01:00:19 You've been to Wyoming? Yeah. Why? Oh, comedy. Oh, comedy. Yeah, it's a booming comedy spot. I don't know. You've been to all these places from comedy.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Where did you go? Was the last place that told me you went Hawaii? Alaska. Alaska. I went to Alaska. I said Hawaii. It's Alaska. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Good memory, rocks. Close, close weather. Super similar. They're close on a map that's on paper. Well, Alaska was very, was very different. But that was one of the last traveling places. Well, I mean, New York.
Starting point is 01:00:47 So did your father-in-law live in Hawaii? For a long time. Not anymore. He's here now. But he was... Was that him? Yeah. You never met him before.
Starting point is 01:00:54 No, and you were like really weird about it. I was? No, the dog was out there. Yeah. I said, hi! Yeah, so how was I weird about it? He said, hi. And then I was waiting for you to be like...
Starting point is 01:01:04 Oh, I should introduce you. You maybe. You're right. I'm doing on the way out. I was trying to get you... I was trying to get you away from the dog. I apologize. I thought you...
Starting point is 01:01:11 I thought you'd met him, so you're right. At this point, it's just that's the... I've been holding it against you this whole time. Have you? Yeah, yeah. You can't tell my energy. No, I'm going to. I'm going to.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Apologies. Yeah. That's a good one. Thank you. He needs some milk. That's one of my favorites. What is the thing that people still bring up to me this day when I say that it's a girl and it's a guy or what? Oh, I think I think I might still, hold on, I might still have it.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I might still have it. You know. No, that's not it. It's yellow. Patti boy, it's me. Daddy's having trouble. Call an ambulance. Patty boy, it's me.
Starting point is 01:01:58 It's me. Patty boy, it's me. Patty boy, it's me. Daddy's having trouble. It's me, daddy. No. Patty boy, it's me, daddy. No, she's saying, listen.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Patty boy. Patty boy is who she's calling. Patty boy, it's me. It's me. Knowing he would know who it is. It's me, dad. Daddy boy, it's me. Daddy's having trouble.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Daddy boy, it's me. Daddy's having trouble. You know, a few years out, it does sound more like what you're saying. Yeah, it does. But I do hear what I'm saying. Because you're hearing it now directly into your ears. Patty boy, it's me, daddy. Maybe you don't hear that as much anymore.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Yeah, it's a little bit. Patty boy, it's me. Daddy's having trouble. Call an ambulance. Call an ambulance. That is the best. Good one. We're about an hour in.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Isn't that crazy? Look at that. You were just like, where do I go now? Oh, look at the time. I don't have to go anywhere. Well, look, we need to do this more often. You don't ever like to do my shows. I knew that it's going to kill.
Starting point is 01:03:07 So y'all want this dead air or not because I don't have anything nice to say about that. Yeah, no, I don't call Christian and beg him to be on this show. You never have begged me to be on this show. You never to beg you would never beg me. You shouldn't, Matt. I shouldn't. And yet. You never have begged me to be on this show.
Starting point is 01:03:25 We're going to sushi or no? That's something we need to do. Okay. You definitely need to do that. You'll love this place. And I got to be on the show more often. Are you scared to bring me in with somebody else today? No.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Is that what you're doing? Trust me? No. No. No, I just think that I... You know what to introduce me your father-in-law. You don't want another person with me. Well, no, no.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Can I tell you that something funny is that when we talked about this too, because we always get in these conversations where you're like, didn't you love Clyder Live? And I go, no. And then you're like, oh. And then I'm like, not you. I love, always, and I said it to you every time. I always loved working with you.
Starting point is 01:03:54 But I say it to this day, this is my favorite show that I've ever done because, for big thing, because this to me is more, even though it's not necessarily a one-on-one, it's a one-on-one, conversation. And that is, I feel like we get more out of it from, I found out more stuff that you're doing, get to talk to my friend for a little bit. We also get the bullshit about the two, whatever, Moon Night just came out. We didn't talk about whether or not we're going to talk about it or not. I just wanted to know if you were.
Starting point is 01:04:18 And we didn't have to drive two hours to get there. I love that you're, I love how close you're. Oh, that's the other thing too. But I think, and I could be wrong, but both you and Josh Makuga, both have very not good memories of comparison-wise of Collider. You guys both don't add. When you speak about it, you don't miss the show at all. Right. And I think that you, what's the opposite of rose colored glasses?
Starting point is 01:04:43 I think you have poop colored glasses on when you look at it because I actually think there was some really shitty things. I talked about this on a podcast recently. I don't know what it was. It had to do with you. We were talking about you. Oh, it was on Kate and Brett's play date. Oh,
Starting point is 01:04:56 was it? Yeah. Where I think that that was a fucked up time. And so you think about it like the whole time sucked. But I think we had some really good times. I don't disagree with that. We had some good conversations. Sure.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Some amazing celebrity interviews and like got to know people in a cool way. And when we weren't getting yelled at, it was actually really fun. Okay. But that's what I mean. Yeah. It just wasn't fun to come to work. It wasn't fun to work. It wasn't fun, like, after a while with the, with the, with the landscape of, of YouTube at that point.
Starting point is 01:05:24 It wasn't fun with a lot of stuff that was going on in general. There was, it was, it was, it was just. I think you had been your own boss for a lot longer than I had. Yeah. So by comparison, I actually was getting way more yelled at in other jobs. Yeah. So I, that to me was like a little more of a cake. You know what it was, though, but it was less about the yelled at as much as like, you know how disheartening it is when you're putting on the show at that time.
Starting point is 01:05:48 where, and it wasn't just collider. It was everywhere in the space. Views for places were kind of going down because people were getting more into the exchange of wanting to get back to this and what YouTube is and watching people just do their review. People wanting that again. And the corporate, the screen junkies, the colliders,
Starting point is 01:06:07 people were starting to get tired of it, right? We were a show that we brought in that kind of fun energy that we were asked to bring in to do that kind of schmose-no thing. And we were like, the bastard child that nobody wanted. Yeah, that is, it is true. It was just heartening.
Starting point is 01:06:24 And like to go in there every morning, like when you're pulling the ratings and you pull up a clip and the clip does a million views and then you finish the show and no one they're working, they treat you like you are like an alien. I was like,
Starting point is 01:06:36 yeah, that is true. It sucks. It is true. But I feel like the second that we would go live, I just had so much fun. And we had, I do, I really miss it because I really do miss the people we were talking to.
Starting point is 01:06:49 I love storytelling. It was so it's not because we're like with celebrities. No, I know what you mean. Finding new people. Finding things that about interesting people. Yeah. And talking to them and you always let me sit in on the interviews too. So that was like really cool for me to be able to like talk to all these people who are who are creatives and are like on top of different things.
Starting point is 01:07:07 And I miss that. Yeah. That part of it was fun for sure. And then. I'm trying to convince you to like your old job. It was it wasn't that. It was it's I don't want you to think that there were not. moments of it that I definitely thought were like there's a lot of fun stuff about it too but
Starting point is 01:07:21 there's the other thing too is that I wanted I didn't want to do five days a week all the time like I had I had asked them to say like can I just do three or five three or three or for the week and they're like you got to do all five and I'm like it's exhausting to do five especially driving over there we do three and then we moved to five or what is it or did I only doing three I can't remember I think we might have started I can't remember whatever it was they wanted I think we did start a three and they wanted to do five, and then the thing was that, like, to drive there.
Starting point is 01:07:48 But then again, like, if we would have gotten there and people would have been like, hey, like, they could have, with Clyder Live,
Starting point is 01:07:54 with the way that it was, they could have taken Clyder Live and taken news clips from Clyder Live that we did the way they piece stuff out. And that could have been the entire content on the channel. Yeah. But they were just bombarding people with everything. They moved this over to a different channel.
Starting point is 01:08:08 And we built that. That channel was 20,000 subscribers. And we built it to 120 in like three months because of all the YouTube clips. They really didn't like us. And that was a bummer. And I still, to this day, I'm unclear on. It wasn't Fernandez, though. No.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Fernandez was not, he was, he was, I don't know if you ever listened to the show, but he was supportive of it. I still don't know who Kate is, so. That was hilarious. No, he was, and I want to be clear on that. He was, he was very, he was very supportive of the show. And he, and he's like, you know, he would, every once in a while he'd listen to it. And he'd like, oh, I listened to it today.
Starting point is 01:08:38 It was funny. It was way less about one person. It was more just like a culture. It just, it just felt like we were. were again like they like we were beneath them yeah as far as the air conditioning and the mic smelling everything everything but it was like I don't know it just it just it got to a place where I was like you know and then it it was clear that that that that was a different show that didn't want to do but we were doing ratings and then it just all the fucking galaxies had shit and all that
Starting point is 01:09:03 happened because I talked about it pretty pretty openly too where like you knew this about me too like I had for a year for a year I was carrying around all that anger from Kevin passing away You know, and like, and I had never, and I've never, I've never gone and talked to anybody about it, like, anybody. And I was. Still to this day? And I was carrying around a lot. I was carrying a lot. Plus the frustration of what we just talked about just now, plus all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:09:27 And then going in, people telling me, a bunch of people tell me, you should need to take vacation. You got to, I wind up taking vacation after that. Went to Hawaii. Yeah. And I think that was the start of me. Healing. Getting into a much better place, like being with my kids and everything, too. and and just being out because like that's people will still from now people who find this channel
Starting point is 01:09:46 and stuff like oh you still yelling about theme parks stuff and not i actually have made it a made it a thing to actually respond to people like no you know i'm glad that you mentioned that because because i have gone through a period i went through a period of my life and i if i can help you or somebody else don't go into work with problems on your hands you know like with anger or sad to talk to people about it and take your time and breathe because you don't You don't want to be able to do that because everybody, whether you're on the air or whether you've gone to work in a bad place and you feel, oh, that's not me. That's, and that's, and it happens. It just so either way.
Starting point is 01:10:24 But some people, some people, like, okay, I didn't realize you were going through that at the time and thank you for. And other people are just going to be cocks to be cox. But at the end of the day, Christian, like, I still think it's bizarre that this has been people's reaction for this many years because you also didn't say something like racist, sexist, homophobic. You didn't say something that's not in your... You did some... Even at the time, you see me in the thing. I was like, huh, this is a weird reaction. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 01:10:49 It was that. And then I figured, as we're getting to this one place, and I definitely said things inside of it that I was like, ah, you know, probably shouldn't have said that too. But it, for sure. Again, happens. But there are also times that people just want to,
Starting point is 01:11:03 like, if you're in a certain place, like I was, I put myself out there. There are some people like, and I've said this many times over, there are people. who are never going to like you, are never going to like me, and no matter what,
Starting point is 01:11:15 they're going to try to, you know, try to take, like, I look at, like, the day, there was something on, on, like,
Starting point is 01:11:20 Reddit that I saw on the Shmodown stuff, right? And there was somebody, what the hell was it? There was someone that were talking about, I can't remember what it was.
Starting point is 01:11:28 I think it was some meme that came out about the digital age, whatever. And then there was somebody who went in the Galaxy's Edge thing about it. And it's like, oh, you still a spoiled brat, blah, blah,
Starting point is 01:11:36 and I'm like, that guy's just never going to like me. Yeah, No matter what. And that's, and it is what it is. You just got it. You just have to say, okay. Well, then, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:45 Do you know the one, the clip of me from that show that's plagued me? The Snyder one. Oh my God. Right. It's unbelievable. Yeah. And like, in the most vain way, I just look so hideously like mad in that clip that every time people show it. It's so funny. Well, they try to get me on it.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Like, I was the only one that was saying, well, if they had it, when SCN live, sorry, I was, and this before. I was like, I definitely want. They should put it out there. And I remember having a conversation with Riley. He's like, I don't know if it actually exists. I'm like, no, it does. You can tell from Jason and Moe and all that. But what they play, same people, is how I say, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I don't care. That was it. And they're like, oh, you were against the movement. I'm like, no. I have five thousand times have been like, I was wrong. Clearly it did exist. We saw it. I liked it.
Starting point is 01:12:30 You're not allowed to say so. But it's every. I will say this. And I know I really am not exaggerating. It's every day. It's every day. Yeah, every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Well, I get, I, so it's funny. I'll get tweets sometimes that someone will put, Restore the Snyderverse, like people who aren't following me. And I go, yeah, but I go, yeah, let's do it. And I think they're surprised that I return it. Because, like, that's what I want to see. So I don't know if they're trying to do that to go, oh, you're against them.
Starting point is 01:12:54 You're wrong. Yeah, I don't know. I just, at this point, I'm just like, all right, you guys don't, I don't know, like, I'll write a meaningful, like, if you guys are going through it, there's always, the only way out is through. I love everybody. out there and people will just write back.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Fuck you. No, everybody just right back to my comments. It doesn't exist. They put it in quote. Oh, that's that one was. Right. It doesn't exist. And I'm like, that's all. Why? Why? But that's the same thing that like I just mentioned
Starting point is 01:13:22 with the Reddit thing. It's like I got to a place where I'm just like, well, what am I going to? I'm not going to what I would like, if I knew this person, I'd say, because this is a very similar situation. Like when Jeff Snyder and I, how we first, you know, I don't know how much you know about the relationship with he and I, right? When I'm first, Jeff Snyder, we were,
Starting point is 01:13:38 were writing articles on shmos no.com where I was getting information from like a tracking board that I had gotten from a buddy of mine and I was getting these scoops like Tim Burton was... You were writing? Well, we had the website and I had writers that were doing it and Riley was doing a lot of it and we were putting
Starting point is 01:13:54 out these before anybody, before variety and we were breaking scoops. I don't even know that. We were breaking scoops and we were getting reports like I think one of them was like was it the Magnificent Seven. We that Denzel was going to be in it and I think Snyder was tracking it or or um Justin uh Kroll was was tracking it and they were their besties
Starting point is 01:14:14 they were pissed because they didn't they didn't know what schmoh's know was and they're like what is that like who is this and and because they knew because because to be fair to them and i talked to justin about this recently on on an episode of this show you came on yeah yeah they do the work right where they go okay i'm hearing this thing let me call disney let me get my contact they have all these relations we just posted it yeah yeah is it true and we didn't know how it would work But anyway, Snyder was like blasting us on Twitter and going after us. What years is? 2012.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Wow. Probably. So I had realized that I had a lot of mutual friends as he did from in Facebook. Because it's people in the industry that I work with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, with Warner Brothers and stuff that knew him. And my buddy Toby, who I was interned with back in the day, was a producer. I said, hey, man. Amarick?
Starting point is 01:15:08 I said, and I go, hey, can you, can you set a meeting with me and this guy? I go, because he's clearly, he's going after us and he's saying these things about us, and I don't really think he knows us that well. And so he put us together, and I said, Jeff, let's go out to lunch, man. We went to this place, it's a pizza place, and we sat down. And we were just two dudes talking and having and realized, you know, okay, you said that thing about me. And we left and he's like, hey, you want to smoke a bowl in the car? I'm like, no, but thank you. I was like, that's, that I would definitely do that, but I just can't do it now. It's too, it's early and I got to go do something. But we became good friends. We did that. And the reason I bring that up is because this guy,
Starting point is 01:15:47 the same guy who brings this up on Reddit, the difference is I would, if that guy ever said something like that to me in my face, I'd say, let's go talk. Let's have a conversation. Like, what do you, how do you feel? Because a lot of these people on Reddit, like they'll go after me with Schmo-down decisions and stuff too. I'm like, I always want to send them a stream yard link. And I always want to say, hey, let's just go. Let's just go talk, right? Because Because it's very similar like texting. Like how many times you've fought with a friend texting? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Or talk to someone on texting and it doesn't translate the same way. But it's also not the same because they don't know you. That's what I mean. And Reddit is a disgusting cesspool. But yeah. A lot of times it is and I still think, and I still battle with it over there because they always say this thing. There's like an ongoing joke how like I hate them and I don't hate them.
Starting point is 01:16:26 I just, there's a lot of stuff that some of the, like any platform, there's some post, people who post that are just not nice, right? And it's like, then I have to realize and I have to sit back and I have to say this is part of the thing dude this is part of what you just got to like you can't look at the fucking mention like I don't even I don't even look anymore like I can't I just I just like I appreciate the conversation I'm glad that they're talking but I can't I can't do it anymore because again mental health wise I don't think it's good for me yeah because like I can't I'm always been a person that if I know that you and I have an issue that we'll call you like anytime we
Starting point is 01:17:03 haven't had many yeah but if we've ever had something that we just weren't obviously the same way as you know. We call and we talk to each other. And like if they're like, we've been, we've had like, oh, I have a concern whether it's something that you did or me. And then we'd be like, let's talk it out. And it's over in what, five minutes, ten minutes. And that's harder to do.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Because neither of us take to Twitter. Right. Right. And that's what people do. People take to Twitter. People take the Facebook. People text. People post on Reddit.
Starting point is 01:17:26 People do the shit. And people in their 30s and 40s and 50s. It's like, I know. What? You guys didn't even come up with it. We didn't come up. I wasn't raised on Twitter. So why would I go to Twitter?
Starting point is 01:17:36 I know how to conflict resolution. I know how to. I can't even tell you, I'm trying to see it. Someone has an issue with you or someone has something that, like instead of talking out, they sub-tweet. I know,
Starting point is 01:17:46 but I get it with the teenagers because that is how they are coming up. I guess. I'm not saying it's good and we should be right. But it's more inside of how they're, when you're my ageing up, what? That's not how, that's like now a new learned behavior.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Like, why would you now start? Because it's a feel like, because they feel like they're just, people feel like they're being heard that way. And the strange thing is they're being heard less. Yeah. They think that they're being heard, but they're being heard less.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Even they're getting responses and stuff too, it's just screaming into the void. What if you put it in all capital letters? It's all caps. It's like the sub-tweeting, all of it. It's so it's, I, I, how often do you, when you see me tweet and post, how often, what, what normally am I tweeting? Like, if you've ever seen it, like, if you can go back in recent memory. Is there anything?
Starting point is 01:18:35 No. Have you seen, like, like, like, We've talked about people we've seen tweeting. Subscribers, the 40,000 congratulations, by the way. Thank you. But that's the kind of stuff that I post, right? And it's or, or if, you know, there's something that, oh, wow, look at that came out.
Starting point is 01:18:47 That was cool. What did you guys think? Yeah. It's just the personal thoughts and that's how people get in trouble, man. Yeah, yeah. Like all of the time. And it's like the idea of this thing of like this, oh, we're all together. The person that's with you today will be against you.
Starting point is 01:19:06 tomorrow. Yeah. It has been proven a thousand times over. You will, I saw someone that we both know that is very vocal on Twitter and Facebook and fights the fight for a lot of people on Twitter and Facebook all the time. Sometimes maybe when you don't think the person should be doing it, right? But does.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Tweeted something out recently and the same people that he normally is talking for turn against them. Yeah, yeah. I saw that too. And it's like. I saw that too. And then he was going and he's blocking and he's just, can't get, The stress behind it.
Starting point is 01:19:38 It's like, that's what I mean. It's like, why, why do you, why do you do it? Yeah. It's like, what is it? But I get it because it is, I love Twitter because it is a beautiful platform to be able to promote. Yeah, promote. And also like, I love it as a news outlet. I can get all.
Starting point is 01:19:53 And I love hearing what my, I always go to what my friends think of. So I see Morbius. I go, what my friends think of it. I love that. Me too. Same. So cool to know what my friends think of art. Same.
Starting point is 01:20:03 But the other stuff is like, whoa, baby. It's just super personal thoughts and the sub-tweets and the things to take shots of people and going after people. It's so immature. You ever have a friend who and then like, you know they're talking about you because you just have the conversation. Isn't it crazy when this happens? And it's like, cut it out. It's weird. Just call somebody.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Yeah. It's so lame because you're doing it for two reasons. You're either doing it because you want that person to either get in trouble or you want them to see it or you want people to tell you, oh, it's okay. it's okay and it's like call someone you have it's like anybody you want it's like because because you'll feel more empty inside like when I get happy happy birthday I'm so grateful when people give me happy birthday messages on Twitter and Facebook and everything too it's very sweet it's very nice but it's not like I feel oh my god I have I have all these people are telling me happy birthday people love me it's like it's like people saw someone else say happy birthday and they did it too because they wanted to be nice
Starting point is 01:21:00 and it's not like oh it's it's christian's birthday it's birthday today it's like your friend's call you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they like, happy birthday. Or they text you. Text you. Happy birthday. You know, like that's, and it's not that you should. And if you ever texted me or tweeted me, happy birthday from the bottom of my heart, thank you. That's not what I'm saying. Yeah, because that's not harmful to anybody. Right. So of course. Right. Right. But it's just like, but I'm just like, but I'm just saying I, I, I, but it's feel empty still. You can still feel empty with, it's not the same. You know what my least favorite word has been become now on Twitter? Because I just feel like it's the number one tweeted word. Oh, wait, wait. Let me tell you the one that I can't
Starting point is 01:21:33 stand is oh no it's not a word though it's a saying what is it it's a bad look I hate oh it's a bad it's so stupid when people say it drives me nuts it's like everybody uses it now oh you can't do that because that's a bad look oh if somebody if that person that person does that oh it's a bad look cut it out you don't know what a bad look is my mind's just brave I feel like oh yeah it's been out for a while yeah it will be like somebody crossed the street and we're all like just oh remember that's what Cody used to Cody and Christian Roopo Covey used to say it all that But about me, they said, Roxy's so brave. I thought it was so funny because it was a joke.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Like Sips, T, Roxy's so brave, so brave, puts her hair up, so brave, so brave. And it's been a long time. But that's not the takeaway from people when it's actually, really, really, 100%. That's the point of what you're saying. Oh my God, there's so many brave people out there that I could never do the things that they are doing.
Starting point is 01:22:27 100%. But it's legit. Like people, somebody will, like, be cast in a movie. And everybody's like, you're so brave for taking on that role. I wasn't going to have that extra piece of pizza, but I did. So brave. Yeah, yeah. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:22:41 No, right. It's overused. You guys not using it ironically because what? I saw somebody do that the other, like recently, like I said, with the, not the brave part, but the, uh, it's a bad look. It's a bad look. And I was watching some show and it was like, oh, well, if they do this, they can't, they can't do that because that's a bad look. It's like, just stop with the bad look.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Let, let, let us figure out what the bad look is. Maybe you say what you mean to say. Yeah. Like if what you're saying is, I don't think they should do that because it's not good storytelling. I don't think they should do that because of what, say what you mean to say. It's just kind of lazy. It's just for me, it looks if someone's like, well, for me, I think that if they do this, it'd be beneficial. Maybe if they did this instead.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Yeah. As opposed to, well, if they just do that, it's a bad look. You don't know what the overall end product is for any. And I'm not just talking about Deshmota. I'm talking about it in general. Like anything. Like anytime people say like, oh, well, if you do this and this person being that person, that's a bad look. It's like, don't, don't you say what you decide is a bad look.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Yeah, it's the same thing. You turned me on to this years ago, I guess off to this, where people will say everyone's saying. And it's like, who's everyone? Right. They're like, yeah. Did I say that to you? Yeah, you were, I remember we were talking once,
Starting point is 01:23:46 and somebody had said to you, everyone hates his storyline or everyone feels this way. And you're like, who's everyone? The four people who wrote it on YouTube? Yeah, who's everyone? Who's everyone? And then now it's on my radar all the time. Any people use that in this industry.
Starting point is 01:24:00 all the time. Yeah, and it happens, especially in this space. Everyone wants this. Yeah, because when you do, like if you're looking at a YouTube video, right? Yeah. And if, and if YouTube, if there's six people who don't like something
Starting point is 01:24:12 and everybody else does, you look at those six negative ones, and you go, that's everyone. Oh, man, there was seven comments that said that we should delete that thing. We should delete it, right? As opposed to. Everyone thinks we should delete it.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Everybody thinks, and then you're like, what? And it's like, don't, you don't, it's because those people commented. There's other people who, like and people don't realize though sometimes you should comment on the other side of it because even well I guess not because you're still going to be in even if you're in the majority it's the minority that usually screams out as louder but it's that's that's that's still like we've been doing this ship for so long and it still never gets easy I know I know but that one did help me because it made me realize
Starting point is 01:24:49 like if somebody's going to say everyone I need to actually who's everyone who is everyone is everyone is everyone sometimes it is but most of the time everyone is seven people look sometimes you're looking And like it literally is everyone. You're like, oh, that's bad, that's bad, that's bad. Or that's great. Like the other thing is everyone, everyone really put, look, I'll use Schmodan example, Titans. Yeah. Titans has gone.
Starting point is 01:25:11 I would say that a majority, and still, you can't always, you can't really always say everyone because it's not a majority of people are really enjoying what we're doing with Titans. Like that, that I am confident to say, right? I can't say everyone loves Titans because I've clearly seen some people who don't. But I, but I don't want to say everyone hates it. Yeah. Because I've seen a couple people, like I don't like this new direction. I like the sports direction.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Four or five people. Everyone hates it. It's not true. Yeah. And I can't. And if I continue to do it, it's a bad look. It's a bad look. It's a bad look.
Starting point is 01:25:43 But you would be so brave if you must do. If I did it. And I said it and I said, I'll try it. Roxy, it was good to have you here. Would you say great or no? It was good. Oh, okay. It's good.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Yeah. Roxie's your dance. She could look at her hair. Look at her face. I wonder if she's in outer faith. I think I was when she's talking to me. I like coffee and I don't like tea. She does because she's drinking it now
Starting point is 01:26:19 and she's got to wonder how, how, how. It's a bad book, if not a good book. And she's so very brave for being here. So thank you, Rockley, and thank you all. And now go get Joy Mode and pump up your ball. everybody so thank you so much for being here duck the land you like that appreciate that all right it is
Starting point is 01:26:42 the big thing everybody it's myself it's roxy strayer you guys are awesome all right see you later

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