The Kristian Harloff Show - More Star Wars drama! Why was Lindelof fired?!

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

BECOME A MEMBER ON THE SITE: http://www.thekristianharloff.com Lots of Star Wars drama. Damon Lindelof recently said he was asked to leave his project. There are also reports of what the movie was goi...ng to be about. Now a new report also says that he and the director might have been bumping heads. What is the real story? We talk Visions, Jedi Survivor and more. Taika Watiti is going to be directing after all. This and more on today's Sith Council. We also air the full 15 minutes of Sith Council from this past live show! Enjoy!! #starwars #sith #movies #lucasfilm  ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.athleticgreens.com/bigthing SUNDAY: http://www.getsunday.com/bigthing OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Cummins is a registered trademark of Cummins, Enme, are registered trademarks of FCA, U.S. LLC. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to Big Things Sith Council. It's our Star Wars show here. Lots of news going on this week. A lot of the Lindelof stuff. Tons of Lindelof stuff. He says he was let go.
Starting point is 00:00:42 He didn't take off on his own. And then the rumors started to swirl. Why was he let go? Was he let go? Because his story took place 60 years into the future and his prototype that he was kind of casting around was Helen Mirren as an older Ray. There's also rumors that we talked about
Starting point is 00:01:00 with Mike Kalinowski, something that he had heard, and that's that inside of this whole debacle with the story of where it was going to go and why they hired him. Then they brought in about Chenoy, director of Ms. Marvel, and apparently Lindelof rumor is that Lindelof and she did not get along.
Starting point is 00:01:19 So that had to do with him taking off. Who knows? What we do know is there's yet another drama story when it comes to a creator or someone else that was hired onto Star Wars. and then let go. So we'll talk about that, what we think is real, what we think is not real, that and more.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Speaking of more projects, we thought maybe wouldn't happen, it seems that the Tychoa Tidi movie is going to happen, and Kathleen Kennedy says as much. So we'll dive into that a little bit more. Andor, season two, there's a big writer strike going on right now that you're probably aware of. Andor was able, Tony Gilroy said they were able to finish doing everything. shooting and all that. So it looks like they're still on course. But what does it mean
Starting point is 00:02:03 overall for Star Wars, this writer strike, the delays and whatnot? So we'll dive into that. And we're going to get into a lot of your questions today. There's a bunch of questions you guys submitted. And we did a live show on Friday with live Sith Council with myself, Mike, and staff and everybody all together. But we did portions of each, whether you watch capes and cows this show big thing proper we did segments of it so i'm not the the the full event with all the stand-up comedy and all that is available at the christian harlough.com you can still check that out but i said you know today what i'm going to do is i'm going to post the sith council portion of that show on this show today because we covered a lot of things that is relevant to what i just talked about
Starting point is 00:02:52 the the lindelof stuff some of the mandolarian things uh this rumor about luke skywalker being kind of mandated that no more Luke Skywalker, whether you believe that or not. We talked about that on stage and more. It was about 15 minutes. So I'm going to play, even though Mike and Steph are not in studio with me now, I'm going to play that 15 minutes that we did from Flapper, so you guys have that. And that'll be the show today. So speaking of live events, get to New York City, baby.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Come on. People always say, when are you coming to New York? When are you coming to New York? We're going to be there. June 23rd. When are you coming to Connecticut? When are you coming to Connecticut? Next night, June 24th.
Starting point is 00:03:28 So you guys can be there. Get the tickets now, East Coast, and get them both. They're not too far away from each other. Come see us. Double toasted. Mark Ellis, me, Winston, Coy, Kate. I got some other special guests work on in that show as well, potentially. So we'll talk about that and more.
Starting point is 00:03:46 But all right, everybody, thanks for joining us. Let's get into it. It's Sith Council. I'm ready. You're ready. Let's do it. Welcome back, one and all to Sith Council. big thing.
Starting point is 00:04:10 It's me. Chris Harla. Thanks to joining us. I appreciate it. There's a lot of talk about. Yeah, Mandalorian season three is over. We're waiting for a skeleton crew to come about, and it will soon. Well, that skeleton crew, Asoka, am I saying?
Starting point is 00:04:27 What am I saying? Soca's right around the corner. Soca's in August. Skellons crew is the end of the year. We don't even know yet with the premiere for that. Soca, we've got Asoka and then Skeleton Crew. So that's right around the corner. corner. But I think leading up to it, we got some other things to talk about. The other thing that I
Starting point is 00:04:43 didn't even mention up top was visions, Jedi Survivor. There's a young Jedi series also that is definitely for, I think I want to show it to my five and a half year old. She was watching these Disney Jr. Spider-Man stuff that she really loved it. So this seems right up her alley. So I haven't got a chance to check that out yet, but I will. I did start playing both Jedi Survivor, and I have started Visions. I'm about four episodes into Visions. Visions is fantastic. Visions is really, really good because I think one of the main reasons it's so good is it's not handcuffed. It's not handcuffed. Now, all the animated styles are not necessarily for me. Like there's one there's like kind of this one Wallace and Grommet type episode that I think there's going to be a lot
Starting point is 00:05:31 of people who love that style that works. That didn't necessarily. It was it was it's called I am your mother, I think. It's the only one that was like I was, I found myself kind of drifting off from, but that's not that it was a bad story. It just, it just didn't grab my attention. But the other stuff, holy mackerel, the first one that, that starts off, the Sith one. And there's, there's another where there's, it kind of go into this cave and then there's one in full Japanese. Like, there's no English in it at all. And it just is so powerful. That was the last one. So far, so far visions, too, I'm liking even better than this first season. I really like the first season, and I wasn't
Starting point is 00:06:10 looking forward to the first season, because I was like, anime, it doesn't connect anything canon-wise. I don't know. I'm not sure. And I loved it. And I loved the fact that it's not handcuffed, because it goes into this, and it still has familiar stuff, you know, and I kind of hope that they take some of
Starting point is 00:06:26 these stories and turn them canon. But I also want to know, like, I would love to know how much direction they're getting from you know, the people, the higher-ups, well, I guess these are the higher-ups that are in charge of this particular program.
Starting point is 00:06:45 But, you know, whether it's Kathleen Kennedy and any Disney say, because they get dark in this series. And I wonder if because it's not canon, they don't have a lot of notes going, oh, well, you guys should do this. You should do this. Instead, do this.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And it's kind of a spin. It's almost like they're, it's legends. for them. And I think that that's why they can do all these things and explore because I really like the storytelling, although the music is fantastic. There's a story with these two sisters that have been on this planet that has been overtaken by the empire.
Starting point is 00:07:20 They're both force-sensitive, and they have to together kind of, the older sister doesn't want to get involved in the battle because their mother did and it didn't go well. The younger sister is like, let's do it. We can take them out. and it's just his whole, like sibling, bonding and love, loss. It's like there's so much going on in visions right now.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Like I said, I'm only four or five episodes into this thing so far. Really, really enjoying Visions. I think it comes out for everybody on tomorrow. It comes out tomorrow. So I was able to get an early, I got sent the links like about a week ago, and I was trying to dive into it, but I just didn't, we had a busy week last week, obviously with the Katie Sack. off interview and thank you for everybody who watched that and commented and all that stuff um but we've been
Starting point is 00:08:11 uh we just been busy so i finally got a chance last night to just dive into it and i watched like i said i watched a whole bunch of them only like 15 minutes long um and they're they're solid very solid filmmaking or or just just storytelling rather and i hope that the team behind it gets an opportunity to do something with the the cannon stuff also i really do whether it's animated or um or a live action or whatever it might be. I hope that they get to tell some stories as well because I think that they're telling great stories. And Jedi Survivors telling a great story too, man.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Start playing that yesterday. And thank God they fixed the... They created the Harloff Idiot mode for that game. Like a couple times in the beginning, I almost texted Frank Janish. I'm going, okay, what do I climb here? Because I'm climbing around the same spots. And then there's like maps
Starting point is 00:09:02 and there's things they tell you which way to kind of go. It's like, okay, and you can't just fall off. I mean, you can't fall off things, but at least so far, it's like, hey, dumb, dumb, go that way. Or browse around a little bit. You'll find where you're supposed to go. And I have so far, and the story's great. Story's really, really good.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And just the opening alone, and it felt like familiar Star Wars so far. And I mean, I'm 10 minutes into the game, maybe 20. But really enjoying it so far. and like where they're going with this. And there's tons of questions that you guys asked today about Jedi Survivor and Calcestis and all that. So we'll dive into that. But before we do, I want to, once again, reiterate that we had a great show
Starting point is 00:09:48 at Flappers Comedy Club this past Friday. And it was about 150 people there. It was packed out. We had a lot of, met a lot of you guys. It was fun. We did some stand-up comedy. And then at the end of it, what happened was we did like the podcast form. Like that shouldn't say the end, the second portion of the show.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And so we started with Sith Council. And we did about 15, 20 minutes. And it was myself, Mike, and stuff. And we talked about all this stuff, man. We talked about Lindelof. We talked about Mindelorian. We talked about all of it. So what I want to do now is, now this stuff's not going to always be available to everybody.
Starting point is 00:10:26 It's exclusive to the website members. And when we do them live, you can go on the site. and just get them a la carte. And the whole event is still available a la carte. It will be. It lives indefinitely. You have to get the replay, though. Some people have been trying to get the live show up.
Starting point is 00:10:40 They're just, you get the replay. And you can see all of it. It's at the Christianharlhoff.com. If there is something like the tier-wise, I do these one-on-one sessions, we also have these 15-minute kind of grab-back sessions where you sign up at a certain tier, and you sign up for 15 minutes with a member of the crew.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Could be me. Could be Steph, could be Roxy, could be Brett, could be anybody monthly. So take a look, the Christianharlough.com, and you also, at the $10 and up, you get any live events, any after parties that we do, they're included. So here is what we're going to give away for free this month. This is the Sith Council portion of the live event on Friday, myself, Steph, and Mike. Here you go. All right, ladies and gentlemen, first thing we're going to talk about, we're going to do Sith Council.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And Sith Council, as you guys know, is our Star Wars portion of the show. and we have an echo, echo, Bravo, Bravo. Sith Council to me has been, I've talked about it many times over, what I love about Sith Council, is that everything I've done in this channel so far, I feel like I've been the most meet.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And it's always a thing, and I'm very thankful for everything that I've been able to do. I know. And I just like to say, for Brett Sheridan and Sir Flurtenlaus, is the luckiest man in the face of the earth. Is there any way we can get that echo down? No chance.
Starting point is 00:12:04 All right. We're going to have fun with that one, buddy. But Sith Council to me has been a real treat to do, and I love working with the two characters I'm about to bring up. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Darth Sabrawe and Darth Kalanowski. So, yeah, we're very excited to do this show with you guys. And there's a lot to talk about me. Star Wars has been in the news quite a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:47 How many Star Wars fans we got? Round of applause. Sith counsel guy knows it. So I want to ask you guys, Mike sent, Mike is, Mike and I have known each other now. It's over 20 years. Over 20 years. So Mike sends me today.
Starting point is 00:13:01 He's like, see, see, look at this, look at this, look at this. And it's this Lindelof thing. What did you see in the Lindelof stuff? Lindelof came off saying, you know, Wait, was this not in the group chat? No. Now, Mike's a real asshole. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And you never respond to my text either, but anyway. Me? That's a whole other thing. I do the little like, the thumbs up there. Okay, all right, here we go. That's because it wasn't in the group. No, because we talked about it like a couple weeks ago, where it's like, you know, people are always like,
Starting point is 00:13:22 you guys so negative, Lindeloff. He wanted to start was like, he wanted to do it, he's off. So he comes out now, he's like, hey, I didn't leave Star Wars. They fired me. They fired him. So it's, you know, fascinating to hear this stuff that kind of comes out later. And I had heard this is kind of like a guy that works, you know, he's an executive level.
Starting point is 00:13:40 The guy who knows a guy who knows a guy. He didn't say, he doesn't say my name, but he had heard that Lindelof had the script, wrote the script that what he wanted. They brought in the director from, the Marvel, or Miss Marvel. And she was starting to do stuff that he didn't like. They were butting heads.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And Kennedy and Lucasfilm were like, you're gone. It's always tough. Yeah, it's always tough those stuff because it's like what, you don't know, so there's a lot of rumors going out. Like even on Roka and Snyder's show today, they talked about how it was supposed to be like years in the future and there's a different actresses as far as older goes. You never know, and Snyder's been pretty spot on lately, but you never know what's real, what's not.
Starting point is 00:14:19 but we do know that there's been these problems with Lucasfilm with directors and stuff too so where do you, when you hear this today, what do you think? I want to know the full tea. I'm so annoyed of not knowing everything that can you imagine if they were just open with it and we just knew like who didn't like each other what went wrong but instead we're like
Starting point is 00:14:39 business differences like bullshit. Kathleen Kennedy. So why didn't it work with Gary there was he was an asshole and didn't like my T set? Okay, fine. Right, we get it. Thanks, Kathleen. We get it then because we know, but now we don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And it's like, I love Damon Lindel off. Me too. And it's like, it's bummer that, like we said, it's one thing. Because there were a lot of people that were saying, well, that's what happens, guys. They develop stuff and then people just leave. Sometimes that is true when you're hired to do a process. But he was hired to do the thing. He was hired to, he said it.
Starting point is 00:15:10 He came in with a pitch. He had his idea. This is my Star Wars idea. I wanted Ray in the future. He finished a script. 60 years or something. Is that, well, that's, again, we don't know if that's factual or not. So it's not like they just said,
Starting point is 00:15:20 hey, we're going to hire you to write a Star Wars movie for us. He had an idea, and they pay him, but they took his idea and said, you're out, we're using the idea. Let's do the flip side of that, though, and the understanding-wise, because this is a lot. So let me ask round of applause here, who's all for an idea of a ray movie
Starting point is 00:15:36 coming back? Round of applause. Okay. People who don't want it to happen. Look that. Very, very rare. So that's kind of the, like, even though loud people on the internet like, no, we don't need this one bullshit! It's like, it's...
Starting point is 00:15:53 Those movies made a billion dollars. Every one of them, Rogue One, they all may, except solo, and you could even, if you were Kathleen Kennedy, you could say, Iger, that one's on you. Because you wanted that to come out in May, and we wanted to come out in December when we
Starting point is 00:16:10 were hitting home runs. So she can point and say, uh-uh, uh. So it does make sense on a producer's side of things to say, let's get our character, sorry Damon, if that's not who you want, she's going to sell tickets, she's been selling tickets, and we could get a billion dollars here off the ticket,
Starting point is 00:16:28 whether you like the business side of it or not. I happen don't like that strategy, but I get it. Yeah, it's all, like Disney Pluses in Disney are super about their business, and there's a majority of people who liked Ray as a character, and I feel like if you're just following that, some people are going to like it, but I do agree they should be following what's the best storyline for Star Wars moving forward.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yeah, and then, Mike, you hate most things. Talk to us about that. Here we go. But what are you proposing? What are you proposing? What is she proposing? Can I tell you how upset I was at celebration last year? We were like, Mike and I put a thing out there. It was like, if you see Steph scream at her, what is she proposing?
Starting point is 00:17:09 And we'd give her like a free shirt or something. And she didn't know it and that at very end it happened, right? Like a light fart in the wind. Yeah, but at the very end it happened, I think, at the last day. But, anyway, so Mike, when it comes to the stuff that's happening, because they did announce a lot of stuff, they announced these three movies, they announced a plan, they announce a timeline.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Are you feeling hopeful with what's going on with Star Wars at the moment? I'm asking you, yeah. Be honest. Oh, I'm asking you on the spot. Be honest. Hey, man, like, Star Wars is like, I can swear here, right? Star Wars is like a blowjohn. Just talking about jerking off for like, fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I'm going to say this. Coys are about eating ass. Star Wars is like getting head, even when it's like. bad, it's still pretty good. All right. So, I'm just saying. I mean, it's Star Wars, man. You're still getting Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah. Nando 3 wasn't my favorite of the three, but it's still fucking Star Wars. She's supposed to love everything they give you. Everything's awesome, buddy. Everything's awesome, man. No, man, it's just, we talked about this. And I think the cool thing was was reaching out to a lot of people on Twitter and talking
Starting point is 00:18:10 to people, people are still in the same thing after the celebration. After the hype dies down, it's like, well, when I start seeing stuff, when I start seeing pictures on set, then I'll believe it. been for so long of like how many directors we've lost and this and that. So when we start seeing stuff, there's so much good stuff that's already out there to look forward to that. We know it's coming.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah. And it's also, it's so, I mean, even listening to live audience and listening to people like, again, because we know that on the internet, the loud voices on the comment section can be,
Starting point is 00:18:36 it seem like they're the majority, but they really are not. Like, and I think tonight was a, even that one question, the amount of people that were like, yeah, fuck yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:44 I want to see a movie. So I thought, so here's another question. How many people, not loved, how many people liked Mandelorian Season 3? Round of applause. Okay. How many people,
Starting point is 00:18:57 round of applause, did not like it. But yeah, but I mean, that's the thing. So it's still, granted, it lost a bit of its audience, but it was still really, it did really, really well. And like I was talking to somebody, someone asked me and they said, you know, I'm, it's, it's, but Bruce Brett.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Brett's like we were going, because that Katie interview that we just did, thank you, did really, really well, right? And like clips were getting shared around and all that stuff. And Brett was like, it's interesting because Diego Luna did good, but not as well as Katie.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And I was like, look, the Andor series was awesome. But Mandalorian has a big fucking audience. And that's kind of, and I think that, I still think there's a way to get to season four. You guys were more so feeling
Starting point is 00:19:38 like it was a series finale. I didn't feel that. But overall, TV-wise, how do you think they're looking, shaping up with Ackolite and all that stuff, stuff? I think TV is really where we're excited about.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Like the Asoka series, right? and the acolyte feels like they actually have a plan. And I think coming off the heels of Andor, when we want a show that's focused on the dark side, that they're willing to go darker with it, which I think all Star Wars fans are waiting for that, especially with it being on Disney Plus, we're like, are you going to do it?
Starting point is 00:20:11 And then Andor did. It did. And I think that you're absolutely right. Because I was, I mean, I said it for a while. And I also, that's what I hope that you guys get out of our show, is that I never want to be that show that sticks our feet down and goes, no matter what we say,
Starting point is 00:20:25 we ain't changing our opinion. I think that's bullshit. It's immature. It doesn't work. Because, for example, like I said, Disney and Lucas doesn't have the balls to make the accolite about a bad guy. And they said, well, fuck you, asshole.
Starting point is 00:20:37 You do. And that's exactly what happened, right? And I was like, okay. And I said, every episode is going to be 30 minutes. We're making 55-minute episodes. And I think that that's the way to go. I hope, because I heard that interview with Faloni where he's, and I love Dave Faloni,
Starting point is 00:20:51 but when he said, like, yeah, we're taking the Lucas kind of approach and going faster, more intense, and shorter episodes, no. Don't do that. That's shorter episodes, you can't build on characters the same way. But as you're saying, with Acolyte, I'm loving everything. I'm hearing about Acolyte so far. Let's hope that we get it that way, because people were saying
Starting point is 00:21:08 inside the audience that it was like, and or with lightsabers. Yeah. Mike, how do you feel about that? Yeah, Akelete. Yeah, about Akelete. Lightsabers. Oh, lightsabers. Boe. There we go.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Okay, hold on a second. I had said this a while ago, and it just said, you know what, I just want Star Wars once that doesn't have a lightsaber, a Skywalker, or the Force in it.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And they're like, you're fucking crazy. Like what? You guys, be real. And every episode of Andor, no fucking lightsaber. It's not even a May the Force be with you.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And it's the best Star Wars that television is big. It was. I mean, writing wise, it's hard. There wasn't a May the Force. Never made the Force be with you.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I was watching. Don't worry because I can fucking drill a home through two fuckers every week. But I think, I think, season two, you're probably going to lose that. You think so? You think so? You're the same guy that said, Bo's going to be riding the fucking Mithosaur in the finale.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Remember you told me that? She should have, mother. I'll tell you that. She's me right that fucking thing. Hey, listen. And now I was like, I want, I ship Bo and did. I don't. Can we just have a story where a male character's female character are not shipped together?
Starting point is 00:22:14 We did. We did. We did get that. But everyone wanted it. You weren't happy. Everyone wanted it. Yeah, that's what I told you. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:22:19 fucking Gerald again. I want the guy to be a fucking eunuch in his house now. That's what I want. Okay, take it easy. All right, relax, calm down. I'm getting fired up. I like it, I like it.
Starting point is 00:22:32 It's true. We did this live all the time. God help it. I had my fucking dinosaur all day at Universal over there and Mario and everything and I come in hot. How crazy have you been going
Starting point is 00:22:42 since Mario Land, whatever, opened up? Are you fucking kidding? They got these bracelets that they walk around and they're going up for the dinosaur with the braces. I'm in taking power of.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I'm a Jurassic world. It's a separate fucking thing. I'm like, eh, yeah. And I can't say anything. But I'm in that dinosaur off, but I'm like, oh, this fucking kid. Mama, why is Norman Bates chasing Yoshi? Why are you, chasing Yoshi? You're, like, such a dad without having kids.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Yeah. It's a good thing. It's a good thing, man. You should have seen him at Riley's wedding with the fucking dogs playing shuffleboard. 80 years old. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but no, look, I think StarWords does have a lot of, there's a lot of stuff that you can be hopeful.
Starting point is 00:23:25 But one, this is, again, rumors. And this is people like, why don't you talk about rumors? Because it's, what if? What if? Why not? There's another rumor going on. I don't know how many guys heard this too, and I saw this, and there's the whole Luke Skywalker side of things. I don't know if you guys saw, there was a report going around.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I don't know how true it is. I don't know where it came from. But that apparently that there's been like a mandate that Kathleen Kennedy says had no more Luke Skywalker. I don't know how true it is and I had just done an episode of how much I think if they're going to do a Zon kind of tie in to air of the empire it's like you gotta have him
Starting point is 00:23:58 but apparently that was that's one and I don't know how true it is gonna be total bullshit and Kathleen Kennedy's like you better put him in there but the report is if that mandate is there and there's no Luke Skywalker can A can that work out Steph and B should it? I don't
Starting point is 00:24:13 yeah it could work out but I don't think it's going to happen You think he's going to show up? 100%. I also really love that commercial did you see with Calcustis. That was a great, that was like the first time Star Wars has had a funny commercial in so long. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. Well, Mike, do you think that Luke's going to show up in shitty?
Starting point is 00:24:35 I don't know. Yeah. I'm torn, you know. You see these things and it's like Luke would deage him, right? You know, we're getting Indiana Jones is 25 minutes of young Harrison Ford. Love that. Yeah. You know.
Starting point is 00:24:46 They did it well in both. And it worked. It works. I love Luke. He's what I grew up with. But I think it's also, it's very important to introduce new characters and create new characters. People might not like Ray if you like Ray or whatever, but there's a generation that that's their loop to them. Yeah, same with the prequels.
Starting point is 00:25:02 People grew up with the prequels. Right. And it's a lot of generous. It's important to create new stories. But Luke's Luke's, you know, the heart of the saga. Well, I'm excited for it. I'm excited for you guys to see more of the Sith Council because we've been doing really good stuff with it. I'm excited about we have so much.
Starting point is 00:25:17 I mean, again, with skeleton crew coming up, we got Ackleit coming up and or season two, and then when the movies finally start coming out, we'll see. But either way, I think we have a lot to talk about. And, again, everybody who's here tonight, thank you so much for the support of this show. And again, I love working with these two so much because every one of the shows that we do,
Starting point is 00:25:40 I've always wanted to kind of add the blend of, like, the comedy with it. And that's what Ellis and I always did so well together, and I wanted to make sure that that kind of transferred over to this. So I'm glad you guys are joining it. But I want to give a big round of applause to Steph and Mike for Seth Council. Thank you guys. You guys are awesome. And we'll see you on Wednesday, I guess.
Starting point is 00:25:58 We'll see you on Wednesday for sure. Give it up from Mike and Steph, everybody. Thanks, brother, man. All right. So next portion. All right, there you have it. Mike, Steph, me talking about everything. And that, I mean, there's so much with the Lindelof thing.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Let's talk about. that before we get into your questions so the reports right as we mentioned on inside of that live event 60 years into the future he wanted to do his story again if you let's let's say we're believing all of these rumors that that happened we know the reason that i i do actually believe the a the 60 years into the future the helen mirren portion of it all that i believe it 100%. Why? Because I heard from somebody not connected with Snyder at all. I heard from two or three different people, all not connected with each other. And it said the same exact thing.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And they had no idea that these other people we've been talking. Same exact thing, word for word. That, you know, this is what he wanted to do. And then it wasn't that. he got Helen Mirren. It was like that's who he was prototyping that character, or Ray, that's who his ideal casting would be. Now, I love this idea, and I said this as much the other day. I understand both sides of it. If you want to watch my full take, I mean, I can kind of reiterate some of the points of it, but I understand both sides of it of why, creatively, I think,
Starting point is 00:27:45 that the 60 years into the future and the Helen Mirren portion or the older Ray works much better creatively. And I saw someone who very politely disagreed with me and said, well, Ray is not a fresh enough character to just reboot. No one's saying that you can't go back and revisit her again. Just the first one out the gate of doing a new movie is you can detach from. the 7, 8, 9, you can detach from them without completely saying they don't exist, saying, no, no, no, this is a new story that we're doing.
Starting point is 00:28:24 And this ray is kind of like the Obi-1, Alec Guinness version of the story. And we're setting up new characters and new lore and a new time period because we're 60 years into the future. And it's so far removed from everything, but still acknowledging stuff that happened in the past. And there's new government. There's all these different things that you can set up. but I wouldn't set up empire. I don't know what they were going to set up,
Starting point is 00:28:46 but there's a way to do that where you can just explore and kind of push into a new era. 15 years makes sense financially because 60 years put you at a risk that if you don't cast correctly, if there's not a familiarity to, and as much as Helen Mirren is a legend,
Starting point is 00:29:09 she ain't put nasses in the seats. I'm just saying it's going to happen. now you can and as we said in that report on for the live show Daisy Ridley is very popular with people whether or not you want to hear the people loud and screaming and yelling and making thumbnails and stuff with red eyes and all that stuff you can you can do that all day long but those movies made a billion dollars and yes I agree I don't think it's the direction that they should go personally creatively But I understand financially why they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And I love Daisy, really. I just think right away, for the first movie out, I think, again, creatively, if you look at the creative choices as opposed to the financial reasons behind it, this is a financial move. Now, bringing in Stephen Knight. And again, I think that Obed Chonoi is a great storyteller so far from what I saw him is Marvel. and if she gets a great script from Stephen Knight, this could be a fantastic movie. I think that it is silly and immature to fold your arms and say, this is going to be bad, even if you don't agree with it creatively.
Starting point is 00:30:22 You don't know yet. You don't know yet. It could be. It could be great. Who knows? I think that's the balance of what we talk about in this show. You don't have to be part of the Everything is Awesome crew. You also don't have to hate everything.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And if you want to be part of those crews, do that also. But on this side of it, it's like, well, let's see. There's a possibility this could be fantastic. It's a possibility they could drop the ball. But I understand both sides. I understand why. It's just the thing that I don't understand is this. And Mike and I have talked about it.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I don't know if Mike said this on the air. But what I'm confused about is Lindelhoff comes in. He pitches a project. And this seems to be happening over and over and over again. So Lindelhoff pitches a project. You would assume that the project he pitched was this 60 years into the future with an older Ray, to which they go, okay, great. And then what happens?
Starting point is 00:31:16 He submits the script. They don't like it, possible. And there's a creative meeting without him in it. And they go, hey, bringing Ray back, probably a good idea. But why don't we take a meeting with Daisy and see if she wants to do it? And instead of 60 years, we do 15 years. because what I had heard was they didn't really even bring Daisy Ridley in until Lindelof was gone.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Like, not meeting. She had meetings obviously beforehand. We knew that. We talked about that. But signing her, apparently she wasn't like signed on to the project like two or three weeks before Star Wars Celebration. That's after Lindelhoff was gone.
Starting point is 00:31:59 So he didn't have Daisy Ridley in his thing. But if the meeting was like, okay, we like kind of like the idea of bringing her back, but what if we then start to bring some of the, bring her back, but she'll be kind of training. People will change it up. And that goes into that rumor that maybe Mike had just talked about with the director and Lindelof just not seeing eye to eye and where maybe she was like, can you, instead
Starting point is 00:32:22 of doing 60, can we do 15? And the other side of his, that from what I heard is that maybe that Lindelof didn't necessarily choose the director that he was working with. he was assigned. And if you're going to be brought on to develop a project, there's times that you're just hired to write it. And it's like, okay, here's my draft. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:32:48 But the reports are that he wanted that it was his project to develop and put together. At least that's what it seems like. This is not factual. This is just a lot of things that, again, behind the scenes, maybes and things that we hear and all that. Who knows what it really is? is what it sounds like to me. At least this is the story that I'm believing. And if other reports come out later that contradict that, then so be it.
Starting point is 00:33:14 But it's just, it does lend back into the Patty Jenkins of it all, the Gareth Edwards, the freaking, the Colin Travaro, the, the figgy stuff, the, the, the Beniof and Weiss. It's the same thing. It lends, it's the same thing. It's communication ain't happening the right way. And still. Now, do they. write the ship here with that ain't going to happen with Faloni probably not going to happen now with Chinoy and
Starting point is 00:33:45 I think it's obeyed Chenoy, excuse me and I couldn't imagine happening with Mangold but who knows? I mean it looks, I mean the Taika one that's oh let's talk about that Taika story and then we'll move on to your questions. All right, this is Star Wars
Starting point is 00:34:02 News Net reporting from deadline they say this is from our buddy Miguel Fernandez the best Star Wars Celebration came and went, and while we had three feature film announcements come out of London, there was no mention of Taika Watiti or his movie. It may have been out of caution, as Watiti is a bit of a wildcard at the moment, given the number of projects he's committed to. But there's a new report suggesting how he'd be traveling to Galaxy Far Far Away sooner rather than later.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Now, Deadline said that Tyco Watiti is circling yet another film to write and direct an adaptation of Kazio Ishigaro, Clara, and the Sun, which he lands on after weighing in a variety of options, including focusing on Star Wars next. Here's the key part, though. According to deadline, Watiti is still excited about his Star Wars movie and committed to directing that next year. There are a few things to analyze here. First, Watiti's next project after Love and Thunder has been a bit of a question mark for a while. His upcoming next goal wins. Comes out in September, has been in post-production for a long time and should be completed by now. Prior to the release of Thor Love and Thunder, he had signed on to a multitude of projects,
Starting point is 00:35:04 and despite that, he said he'd hoped to have his Star Wars movie out and Kennedy even suggests he would be making the 2025 film, which seems to be Charmine Obit Chinoi's project starring Daisy Ridley. Okay, so a couple things to break down here. So, as I mentioned, I still say, I think Tycho Watiti is an amazing filmmaker. I think he's hilarious. I think his stories are great.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I'm not excited about him doing a Star Wars movie that he wrote, a Star Wars movie that someone else wrote. I would be more excited about. But again, same thing I just said before. Let's see what he, I can tell you, I hope to be so disappointed in my own self by doubting this guy. That's what I hope. I hope saying, like, you dummy, you almost didn't want that movie. And that's the best Star Wars movie you've got.
Starting point is 00:35:56 That's what I want. I don't think it's going to happen. But that's what I want. Understand that that's what I always want to say, I wasn't happy about that when that was announced. But man, that they deliver on that one. Holy moly, that was great. Who knew that was going to be so spectacular? Look at Andor.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Look at Andor to me. Andor was one that I said, okay, we'll see what we got. Andrew's fantastic. I can't wait for Andrew season two. So I'm hoping the same thing happens with this Tycoon movie. I really do. Because, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:25 It just, it also, as far as where it's going to land, it seems like the reports were that it's going to land around the same time period as this Daisy Ridley movie, or at least outside of it. It might not be connected at all. and nor do I think it should be. I think that's going to be where they start to get into dangerous territories
Starting point is 00:36:43 where they start connecting these stories right away when there's no plan to do so. Don't do one of these things. It's like, hey, you know, our time periods, oh, you know what, we'll put a couple things in there and that might contradict what you're doing, but who cares? Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Have them be completely separate, completely different. The one thing that I also want to say because I've been very, very, very skeptical about a Tycho-Watini movie. The other thing is, too, I don't want to disregard that he learned a lot of stuff on that set on season one of Mandalorian working with Faloni and Favro and his season finale, what he directed was fantastic. He didn't write it, but he, I mean, he definitely had influence on it.
Starting point is 00:37:22 You can tell from that opening scene. But he probably learned a lot about Star Wars more so than he ever knew beforehand. So who's to say he's not going to bring that into his next movie? But every one of his movies has a Taito-a-T-D stamp on it. And as I've mentioned to you guys until I was blue in the face and said it so many different times, the scariest thing I ever saw was when I was at that, when I was at that premiere screening of Thor Love and Thunder. And they were doing an interview with Kevin Feige. And normally every time they ask, what's this, what's this one? What's this genre of movie?
Starting point is 00:37:57 And he said, well, this is a spy thriller. This is a, this is a heist film. This is kind of like a John Hughes movie. Every time, that was always the answer. but when they asked him about this, he's like, oh, this isn't any of them. This is a Tycho, a Tidi movie. I said, uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:38:10 That's not, you don't want a Tycho a Tidi movie in a Marvel standalone. You don't want it in the Star Wars movie. You don't want it in D.C.? You want a Tycho a Tidi movie when it's a Tyco-a-Movie movie? Because he does it great. But, yeah, I hope that that's not the case. And I feels like it might be when you heard the comments by Kathleen Kennedy, when she's like, oh, we don't, we don't bother me.
Starting point is 00:38:34 He doesn't want to be bothered. We just leave him alone, let him do his own thing. It's like, uh-oh. That's not promising. But I do think it's a smart move that it's not the first one out the gate. And if they are filming it, let's say, next year, then maybe they do start coming out movies once a year. And if that's the case, this is what the schedule might look like, hypothetically.
Starting point is 00:38:56 2025 is the Daisy Ridley movie. 26 is the Faloni movie. 2027 is the Taika movie. And 2028 is mangled. I think that's a mistake to announce movies that far into the future. I mean, come on. How do we know it's going to happen? Why would you say that?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Lots can go wrong. Lots can go wrong. But, hey, man, we're getting Star Wars. You're getting Star Wars. Fingers crossed that it works out. I'm, again, hoping it all is fantastic. It all plays together. All right, we're going to get to your questions now, and there's a ton of them.
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Starting point is 00:44:26 So let's do it. Questions. I'm going to start with this one. James. Deaser. 1468. What up, James. You think Asoka's going to be the lead character of Faloni's movie.
Starting point is 00:44:39 While we don't know how the story plays out, it would make sense. There's something really beautiful and poetic about being with him every step of the way and making the jump to live action and then now film. Also, because of that, do you think that the movie is where he gives for some kind of definitive ending retirement?
Starting point is 00:44:56 It's a fantastic question all the way through. And I think it plays into what we talked about in the live portion of the show earlier. It really depends on... No, it doesn't depend. The answer to the question, I believe, is yes. Is a resounding yes. The question is how much,
Starting point is 00:45:13 as opposed to the Luke Skywalker, of it all because Filoni, from what I heard, is not like a massive canon book guy now. He doesn't pay attention to the stuff going on in canon and making sure that it's going to be
Starting point is 00:45:26 relevant to the story he's telling. The animated and all that stuff is. But what I also heard is that he's a big heir to the empire guy and he talks about it kind of quite often. And he's a big Zon guy. And I think they even kind of reference it. They're going to be pulling stuff
Starting point is 00:45:39 from some of those Zon novels inside of this. And an heir to the empire story would be amazing. The question is, Assoca kind of take over the role that Luke was serving in those novels. If this mandate by Kathleen Kennedy is accurate, I don't necessarily think it is. But if it is, then it would make sense that Asoka is going to be the one that kind of takes over for Luke. I think that would be a mistake in general to not have Luke in it, considering that you set it up in that Boba Fett thing where am I going to see you again? And I also was vague, maybe, whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:13 But you've got, you brought in this Shamook guy, who's one of the best deep fake guys out there. Use them. Put Luke in there. Plus, and I said this in the last show, that's how you're going to market that movie. You got to market it with Luke to get casual people in there who ain't watching Asoka and a Mandalorian on TV. And you want to get the casual viewers in the theater. If they don't know what the hell's going on with Asoka and Mandalorian, you're just getting the core audience. And you need to get the casual audience.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And you're going to get the casual audience if you have Luke. and if the gimmick is putting Luke in there with the deep fake stuff, then do it. I think that they do, but I still don't think that takes away from the fact that Asoka will be the lead character. I think that yes, I think everything's going to be set out
Starting point is 00:46:54 that she is the lead character. And I also, to answer the last part of your question, I do think she's going to have a defendant-emending because she kind of has to. Unless they go inside of this world-between worlds thing where it does set up a potential, I don't want to say multiverse, because the words kind of getting icky now.
Starting point is 00:47:09 but I would say you know maybe an alternate timeline I don't know I don't know it depends on how they set it up but I do think she'll have a definitive ending I do think that she'll be the lead character of the movie and you are not in bad company when Rosario Dawson is the star of your film
Starting point is 00:47:29 she's led many movies before she's a really great actress she's passionate about the character but I do think it would be a mistake if they don't mark it with Luke and they don't have Luke in the movie or in this story in general. If it's a Kathleen Kennedy note, I think it's a bad note.
Starting point is 00:47:45 If it's a Kathleen Kennedy note to have him, I think is a good note. So give credit to both decisions should she decide to make both of those calls. All right, next one. All right, Daniel, what's up? Daniel 2626. Hey, Christian, which of the three announced movies
Starting point is 00:48:00 at Star Wars Celebration do you think is the biggest chance of being a box office success? And also, which of the three do you predict is going to be the most well received by fans? It's tough questions. Tough questions. I think that all three have a chance of being box office successes. One, this is something that someone said the other day in a comment.
Starting point is 00:48:18 They said, because we were talking about, like, Kathleen Kennedy making a billion, they said, anybody can make a billion dollars with Star Wars. It's Star Wars. I said, well, then explain solo. And they said, well, that's a good point. But there were no lightsaber's in it. And I said, but that's not what you said. You said, anybody can make a Star Wars movie and put a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:48:38 in the account. Well, it's like that old thing when, well, yeah, you had Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, of course you can win championships. He still got to call the plays. You still got to call the plays. And, you know, this is a play where
Starting point is 00:48:50 the thing is they are putting this movie out with Daisy Ridley because they're going for that box office. And they're going to continue off of the success those movies had, whether they had drops or not. And remember, it's also going to be, what is that, six years removed from a Star Wars movie being in the theater by the time that they get it in the theater. So people are going to be kind of hungry for a Star Wars film to see it on the big screen.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And I think that it's, I think it's, I think it's going to, that first one is going to do really well. Now, if you're asking what's going to make the most out of the three, it just goes back to. the previous conversation. How are they going to market the Flonie movie? What is the state of the Star Wars fandom from? Because right now, there are a lot of people who really, again, there are a lot of people who really enjoyed season three of Manilurian. Now, there's a lot of people for this.
Starting point is 00:49:56 There's no doubt that at the three seasons, this is the most divisive out of the three. There's no argument there. but can season four bring back the same kind of you know it seemed like the fandom was kind of after the trilogy they were split and then after season one of mandolorean it seemed like everybody was kind of look all right we can all be friends again and that seems like now there's more people more pockets kind of going off and and doing their thing again and saying like and i agree there's a lot of stuff that i did not like about this season there's a lot of stuff that i did but But I don't, it wasn't as good as one and two.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I thought Katie was fantastic. I thought Katie was the best part of the whole entire show. And I think that even listening to that interview when I was talking to her, it's like, like you have this big speech that she was going to do that could have developed the character more. And then they cut it to do these 32 minute episodes. And I think there was just mistakes that were made all the way around. But that's, that's a different conversation. The, if they can get back on track and everybody's on board with season four and Asoka delivers
Starting point is 00:51:00 in the way that I think it will, and Skeleton crew is kind of a surprise. And then they lead into Asoka Season 2, which eventually, and then obviously with Mandalorian Season 4, Asoca Season 2, and then I don't know if Skeleton Crew gets a season 2, I have no idea. But leading up to enough hype to where people are really excited, that's how you get the core fan base.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And then, as I said, you've got to find a way to get the casual audience in that theater. The casual audience is going to be there for the Daisy Ridley movie. I use my wife as an example all the time for that. The casual audience is going to be there for the Daisy Ridley movie. You've already, that's the reason why Kathleen Kennedy makes that decision if it is, again, true of saying we can't do Helen Mirren type. We can't do that. We need someone more recognizable.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Even Linda was like, we'll put stars in it. Sure, but people know Daisy Ridley. It's a sure bet we want to go with Daisy Ridley. So that's going to be, the, it's the movie. movie has to be good, obviously, too, but you're going to do well there. The following movie, you've got to mark it. You've got to find a way to market. If you mark it with Luke, you got a shot. Now, the man-gold one is very, oh, good. The one, the, good, the leaf, I was so, I was so upset. I didn't think he was going to show up.
Starting point is 00:52:14 And today's thrown rocks. Sure. Perfect. Nice to see you. The man-gold movie is an interesting one because it's mangled, right? That one, that one has the potential to be a juggernaut because it's so far removed from anything, you're establishing a whole brand new period in general. It's mangled, again. And if it delivers in the way that you think that it could, it could be massive. It could be massive. But that's harder to say because it's just not enough known from it at all. But that one has a potential to be huge. And by the time you get, And Mangal will probably have done, whether it's Swamp Thing or other things, too. He'll probably get Swamp Thing off the ground before the Star Wars one.
Starting point is 00:53:05 To me, it seems like the pieces would move closer. He's got more time to do the Star Wars one in general. So that's my thought process there. All right, next one. Mr. Picklesworth, 1690, not a question. You need to play Jedi Survivor, then do a Sith Council on it when you're done. It's amazing. So I started him.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And you're not wrong. So far, it is amazing. And the story's great. and the music's great. And it felt so reminiscent to, it was like a great mix between the prequels and the original trilogy, like the opening scene of him just,
Starting point is 00:53:37 there's an opening scene, I don't want to spoil up him, but right where you first get to Cal, where he is, it's like, it's so, it just feels like Star Wars, like right away. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:53:50 I wonder though, man, I could be wrong. I mean, and again, and I might very well be wrong, But it's the same thing with like visions. Do they have way more creative freedom? Because it's just not the stuff that Kathleen Kennedy and the other crew is involved in. Or are they very involved?
Starting point is 00:54:08 Are they giving notes on the creative and the same way that they do on other projects, whether it's Mandalorian Season 3 or I don't know. I don't know the answer to that story. I wonder how involved the executives that Lucasfilm are. And please don't, what does it say? Disney, Disney executives ruin this. They don't have any say in the creative on these shows. It's the higher-ups at Lucasville. So if you're going to give credit to the execs, do it at Lucasfilm.
Starting point is 00:54:42 If you're going to point the finger at anybody pointed at Lucasville. Now you can point the finger at Disney if they're not giving them enough money. That's true. So anyway, this Jedi's, Survivor I really I really enjoy so far and I'll probably It's it wasn't it's not available for PS4 I have a PS4 and I have the new Xbox
Starting point is 00:55:05 Why I have the new Xbox? Because I was trying for the longest time to get the PS5 and it was and I'm not like I'm not I'm not a I'm not a console hunter guys there's some people that will go Above and beyond they'll go On a CalCestus adventure to get the
Starting point is 00:55:20 PS5 I kept checking every day going It's not available just get the Xbox It's fine I got an Xbox I'm playing in an Xbox I'm playing on Xbox with anyone. Yeah, I know. I don't, you can judge me. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I don't care. I'm not as big of a gamer as you are. I just want, I got consoles to play different games, and I'm playing the game. So I start playing yesterday and I really like it. But I will. I mean, my goal is I wanted to Twitch. I wanted to do Twitch to it. And Brett and I are trying to figure out, if I can still, we can figure out a way.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Yeah, and I'm playing it on one of the easiest. levels too. I don't give a crap about challenging myself when it comes to these games. I just want to see the story. So, don't tell me when it comes to, you've got to challenge yourself. No, I don't. I don't. I don't want to fall off cliffs anymore.
Starting point is 00:56:13 I just want to play this game, and I want to find out what happens. That's it. Get me there. I don't want to... Oh, don't you need to really challenge yourself and fight stormtroopers at a harder level? No, I don't. Let me kill them easy and make them think I'm a lot more
Starting point is 00:56:27 powerful of a Jedi than I really am. I'm okay. A lot of myself. It's fine. Jamal-Jubakowski 775. If Lucasfilm ever does a Tales of the Sith series, similar in concept to Tales of the Jedi, which dark side users would you like
Starting point is 00:56:42 to see? Well, I think it's a no-brainer for me. Raven, Malick, Bain, Plagueis, Palpatine. Young Palpatine. For sure.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And Vader. Absolutely. Show me maybe the whole side of the, the, the, um, the ventures thing of what happened with Dark Disciple. Show me that. There's tons there. There's tons that they can do and add new stuff. And to play inside of the Republic era.
Starting point is 00:57:19 They've now set up the timelines. Show me some more republic stuff. Show me some new Republic stuff. New Republic stuff is going to be trickier now because you, you got to set up Acolyte first because they're hiding in the shadows. Old Republic, they're all over the place. So, yeah, I'd love to see Old Republic stuff, absolutely. It'd be great.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I hope that they do it. I really do. And I hope that after Ackleid, you know, leading with some bad guys, they decided they wanted to give it a shot. Mr. 47. Has an adaptation in movie form of the Force Unleashed ever been considered by Lucasfilm? I'd love to see it as one off film. and they should 100% bring Sam where if it ever happens.
Starting point is 00:58:01 So I don't know if it ever, I haven't heard any rumors that it has been. I think that a lot of the stuff inside of what they do inside of that Legends game contradicts now some of the stuff that they set up as far as how the rebellion was formed
Starting point is 00:58:18 inside of Rebels itself and there was no and you would assume that at that point where Force and Leash takes place, the Rebels crew would have crossed past with StarKiller at some point if that was it. So I don't see that happening.
Starting point is 00:58:38 I know that myself included, StarKiller is a really beloved character. The only problem with StarKiller with if they did make him in live action is they'd have to find a way to make him a lot less powerful. Because he's really powerful in the games, like really powerful. So I'd love to see the idea of him coming into a live action one-off movie or something, but I don't think it's going to happen. And yeah, I am baffled. I am baffled that Sam Whitmer has not been in a live action anything. Maybe he's trying to, maybe they're trying to find the right role,
Starting point is 00:59:14 or maybe they're doing exactly what you're asking here. Maybe they're waiting and going, look, we're not putting you in anything yet because we think we might be able to use Star, And if that's the case, we want you for him. But the fact that he has not been in a live action Star Wars at all, and not in a Faloni project is baffling to me. I'm so interested as far as why. He's been in all Falonis projects in animated.
Starting point is 00:59:44 He is a Star Wars Uber nerd, as we know, former Shmo Down Star Wars Star Wars champion. And he is a, and he's just a fan. He's a mega fan. I think this plans for him to do something. I just don't know what it is. What's your take on the rumor is that Lindelof wanted Helen Mirren to play Ray 60 years into the future? I'm kind of glad we're not skipping that far ahead as it would be Luke all over again,
Starting point is 01:00:11 missing on seeing them in their prime. All right. So I, look, I understand that, that argument, right? I get it because Daisy Ridley would only, would be in her mid-30s, The Ray would be in her mid-30s when this movie takes place, the one that they're doing now. And it's probably one of the reasoning behind them doing it. It's exactly what you just said. I think that there's a lot of people that feel that way, not skipping ahead.
Starting point is 01:00:36 But like I said earlier, they skip and jump back and forth all the time. Who's to say they couldn't have done a 60 year in the future and then done another? Daisy Ridley's only what? Let's see. Hey, Siri, how old is Daisy Ridley? She really is 31 years old If they decided they wanted to do another movie with Daisy really in 10 years from now She'd still only be 41 years old
Starting point is 01:00:59 They could still do a movie with her still in her prime Just because they do a movie 60 years in the future It doesn't mean that Oh, now we can't ever do a movie with Daisy really ever again Of course they can. They can tell another one later on down the line But look, the fact that she wanted to do it again And they could get her like I mentioned
Starting point is 01:01:18 Business-wise, it makes sense and because if people want to see her in her prime and everything too, the difference is that there's a lot of people that feel that, similar to what I just said with StarKiller, she was really, really powerful. And the question is like, what is, what she can, she's still able to fight and she's still able to lead these missions and do whatever she could be the lead character
Starting point is 01:01:42 and do everything she wants to do. And it's not setting up new characters. It's not setting up there. It's that old thing of, let's rely on people that we already have to establish. And it's like the old wrestling stuff. Just keep putting Hulk Hogan over as champ and don't develop your other superstars. And eventually you find yourself in 1992, where you have to build up your roster because
Starting point is 01:02:05 you've buried them under one guy for too long. Now, I'm not saying that's necessarily the case here, but that's what they do a lot in Star Wars. Like, oh, no, no, no, rely on the time periods in between the new trilogy and, you know, maybe be some pre-equel stuff here and there, but new trilogy, stay around that time period. They've got to be familiar with Stormtroopers. They got to know the emperor still out there. They got to know this.
Starting point is 01:02:27 That's why the Acolyte is such a big swing for me, and I love it. Acklite's the only one that's, like, not connected to anything, to anything. I mean, you probably get Yoda. So it's, it's connected there. But, like, but it's such a different time period. It's so far away from, you know, the episode, one. So, I mean, look, I understand your point.
Starting point is 01:02:57 I get it that people still want to see. If you're still like a Ray fan, and you want to see it, and like I said, I like Ray, I'm not, I'm not, I'm on board, and I like the director, and I want to see what Stephen Knight can do. But I like the creative choice of doing an older version and setting up new characters also. I think creatively, it's a bigger swing.
Starting point is 01:03:18 But also, the script wasn't good. It wasn't good. Who knows? Bruce Crossford. What's that, Bruce? If he appears in season two of Andor do you think that Tarkin will be a deep fake again like Rogue One
Starting point is 01:03:32 or be replaced by another actor to portray the character? I think they're all in on... Yeah, I didn't see that. Oh, it's a good point. Fantastic. What else? Nothing, nothing else? You don't...
Starting point is 01:03:53 Oh, I forgot about that. Right, right. Okay. But did you like what they did in the last one? With the way that they maneuvered it and everything? No opinion on that? Okay. So Peter Cushing, obviously, kind of came back to life in Rogue One.
Starting point is 01:04:13 And at the time in 2016, when it was released, de-aging didn't look great, right? And then they used the same type of de-aging for Luke Skywalker in season one in Mandalorian. and I don't think it looked great. It was cool to see them, but didn't look great. Then they used deep fake for a book of Bob effect, which looked outstanding.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I mean, just outstanding. Some of the best that I think I've ever seen. I hope that they do that. I think that they should do that at this point, and I think they should do it in general. You're able to do it now, and the AI stuff for voices are, it's evolving every day.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Scary to some. but if it works, use it. And if you can get Peter Cushing's voice and you can do, you know, a better deep fake version of him, I think that's what they do. That's what they should do. Javeritech Baby 33. Do you think that they should tackle the time period between attack of the clones and Phantom Menace? Yeah, why not?
Starting point is 01:05:17 I think that they should tackle stories that are good. If there's a good story in between and I think I'd like to see them get away from the time period, I was just talking about just because they did so much of it there. I'd really like to see them now that they've set up this timeline of, for me, you know, old republic is something I really think is an untapped well. I would love to see that happen. So we'll see if that goes down. I'd love to see it.
Starting point is 01:05:40 But yeah, that time period you're talking about, it'd be great. Another adventurers, maybe Plow Coon, whatever. I still think it would be a very interesting concept is just doing something like the dumb title of it is just the Star Wars show, right? and it's a 10-episode kind of anthology series live action, but it could be, or 12 episodes, and it could be anything. Let's say the first two or three episodes were about,
Starting point is 01:06:07 let's say it was Boba-Fed. I think Boba-Fed didn't have his own series. Boba-Fet for three episodes, Bounty hunting, doing things, whatever, it might be a Java thing, whatever. Three episodes, arc, whatever. The next, very similar to what they do in Visions. And then the next two episodes,
Starting point is 01:06:24 are an old republic arc. And then there's a Lando arc or a crimson dawn arc. And it's just like you're not tied to anything for too long, but you can also explore all over the place. And it's just a Star Wars Anthology series, 12 episodes, Mace Window for two episodes, whatever, new characters, Plagueis, the birth of Palpatine, whatever, the birth of Palpatine, Whatever. You don't want to do a whole series?
Starting point is 01:06:55 Do three or four episode arc. Whatever it might be. And it's an anthology series. And you just called the Star Wars Show. And it's like, oh, it's a grabback. What happened on last night's Star Wars show? Well, they actually explored. They did a, I didn't know what was going to happen, how they were going to do this,
Starting point is 01:07:11 but they actually went to Kashik, and they did this thing. And it was pretty dark, but it had a lot of heart to it. And you saw some of the wukies. There was this new kind of smuggler kind of character that they introduced, kind of like a dash render feel to him. and maybe they bring them back. And then they, Lucasfilm or wherever it, too, they can go through the comments and they can see,
Starting point is 01:07:29 well, you know, that character really resonated with the fans. For season two, bring them back in another arc. And you just, you're just not as handcuffed. I would love to see a Star Wars anthology series. That's a, that's a dream project. Because you can, every era, every, no matter where you wanted to go, you could go. There's four episodes in the High Republic.
Starting point is 01:07:48 There's two episodes. They're going to explore a little bit of the Knights of Old Republic. The Knights of Republic, where the most highly watched ones, the three episodes that he did, highly watched, so much that people want to see more and more of it. That one now we spin off into a series because they really want to see it.
Starting point is 01:08:03 No one gave a crap about that one we did with this one. We thought it was going to be one. All right, well, don't do that angle anymore. I think, oh, that's the one project. People always say, if you could have one project in Star Wars, what would you do? That one. That's what I would do.
Starting point is 01:08:19 All right, everybody. Let's get to the next one. Sam G. 25 a 99. With the Knights of the Republic remake seemed to be put on hold indefinitely. Do you think we'll get a TV series of it instead, especially since the Old Republic is officially part of the canon timeline? All right, I'm so confused by that. Can you send me inside of a comment here today? Can you send me an article where it's paused indefinitely?
Starting point is 01:08:45 I thought it was just pushed back a little bit from what I remember doing a short about it, where they just pushed it back again. Is it indefinitely? Look, man, I think that they're going to explore the old republic at some point. I think that basically what I do think was a very smart move. I think instead of saying here are all our projects and trying to do what DC and Marvel is doing, we just want to let you guys know these are the time periods that we're going to play in. So what it essentially allows people to do is, okay, so-and-so, you've got you are a,
Starting point is 01:09:21 you're pretty creative. We want to take a meeting with you. What do you got? Well, I was actually a big Knights of Republic fan when I was coming up. And I would love to explore the old Republic. And Kathleen Kansas, well, a lot of people want to do that. What's your take on it? Our take is this.
Starting point is 01:09:39 We want to do a movie. We want to do a series. We want to do that. Oh, okay. So-and-so. What do you want to do? I really was watching that Acolyte series, really liked the High Republic era.
Starting point is 01:09:48 I'd like to play in the High Republic. I'd like to play in the dawn of the Jedi. I'd like to play. Like I think that that's what it sets up for the creatives to basically, if Kathleen Kennedy's taking meetings with people, hey, I know we're meeting with, I don't know, Matthew Vaughn next week. Can you, when he comes in,
Starting point is 01:10:06 if he has a particular time period that he wants to play in, please let him know. I think it's a smart move. It's a good way to pitch to talent. It's a good way to pitch to these creatives. And hey, these are the timelines we're playing. and what stories do you want to do? I hope that one of those creatives comes in and says,
Starting point is 01:10:25 come on, mother F's, let's do a Knights'O Republic series. Let's do a series. Let's adapt. Let's do what last of us did. And let's adapt it into two seasons. And let's play. Eventually, you know, evolving into whatever it might be to where we get to the Darth Bain of it all.
Starting point is 01:10:46 And please, for the love of God, Adapt those books. Oh, my God. They're right in front of your face. Oh, it drives me crazy. They're right there. Adapt those books. Three series.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Adapt those books. They're right there. You own them. You own those books. Adapt them. What in the world? Oh, my God. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:11:07 So, yeah, I think that eventually you're going to get an old republic thing. But when, how? I don't know. Rightfully so, I think that the priority there are these movies. They got it. The movies are, that's what puts
Starting point is 01:11:23 the money in the bank account. That's what Disney paid for. So, here you go. Ferdinand Brutel, 4762. Do you think we'll get more than one day of Filoni movie set
Starting point is 01:11:35 during the New Republic era? I mean, that's a question of success and creative desire on Flonni's part. I'm sure he wants to. And I'm sure that if it's a successful movie, they're going to want him to do more. They're going to want him to tell him more.
Starting point is 01:11:53 They're going to, yeah, of course. And he's another one. He's only got to be like, what? If I was to guess, I would say Dave Filoni is 51 years old. Hey, Siri, how old is Dave Filoni? You know, 48, 48 years old. A young man, he can do some stuff. So, yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Let's, let's, I think, if his movie. is successful. Now, the question is, does he still want to play in television? Like, it's a matter of want. It's a matter of he has been pretty open about this is a new venture for him, directing movies and learning from people and all that stuff, too. So he's live action. That is obviously been directing animation for a long time.
Starting point is 01:12:42 So I think that if it's successful, I think it's a guarantee. Now, whether it's in that era, I mean, he's pretty familiar with it. he might, or you might want to venture off and do something else. It's a question. Who knows? I'd love to get him back in studio. I'd love to get him in studio. Talk to him for like two hours, man.
Starting point is 01:13:00 It'd be great. All right. Next one. R. Dramatica. Do you think we're going to see Calcastas in any future live action shows or movies? So I had a report on this channel, a little while that I'd heard a report, that they were seriously developing and talking about a series for him. Now, the question is after the success of the second game, because people are loving it,
Starting point is 01:13:19 it doesn't get pushed further into development. Now, we haven't got a lot of new shows announcements. Remember, in 2020, we got announcements for all these shows that were coming out. And then we lead into, you know, here we are three years later. So, and granted, it was during the pandemic. So maybe they wanted to get some news out there and didn't have any movies and everything as well. So now that they have some movies, they don't need to make as many announcements. But if you go through what they have in television right now,
Starting point is 01:13:54 you've got Skeleton crew or Asoka come out in August, skeleton crew coming out end of the year, beginning of next, Ackleid at some point, and then and or season two. That's your 2024, right? 2025 is most likely Mandalorian season four. Maybe Asoka season two. Maybe if they want to lead into 2026, you would get close to it.
Starting point is 01:14:19 But let's say no on Asoka. Let's say no. What's your shows? You're pumping out two or three right now, and you only have one, potentially with Mandalorian season four, right? Andor's going to be done. You bring Ackleid back?
Starting point is 01:14:37 Is it going to be able to come back in time? And with writer's strike, you're going to be pushed back even more so now. But announcing some shows and announcing some new things, you would assume it's, I mean, and you're not getting, you're not getting any announcements at Star Wars Celebration next year
Starting point is 01:14:53 because they ain't having one. Japan, you'll probably get some more announcements, but we'll be, so you're probably going to start to hear about shows, I think, in the next year or so. You would assume, maybe, maybe not. I'm so curious. Anyway, let's, let's, let's,
Starting point is 01:15:14 but Cal Kestis, I would love to get that announcement that he's, that that show, is the next one after the success. I think it would be smart. Now, if it's adaptation or continuation is the question, it would probably be, this is the problem with the canon stuff, though. When it was first announced,
Starting point is 01:15:32 I was so on the other page with Campia back in the day on Jedi Council because I thought they were going to actually stick to Canon and be very protective over it, but they're not when it comes to games and comics and stuff too. They'll change something on a whim. if they need to in order to tell the story for live action. So by still saying it's canon,
Starting point is 01:15:55 I mean, I do think it's a little dishonest, to be honest with you, but like I do think that if they go away from that, you'd also don't have to worry about, well, I mean, they don't anyway, but by saying, like the Jedi, let's say they wanted to, they could just adapt the game. You can just adapt the first game with him. But I guess the thing is that he, I guess the reason you'd probably want to continue it
Starting point is 01:16:21 as opposed to redoing it is because he's significantly older than when the character is in the first, in fallen order. So I guess that that could be the argument against that. But there's rumors that he's going to show up in Mandalorian season four. Give him his own show and let it look like this. sticking people into the show, I guess. I mean, the video game audience, let's not pretend that it's a small portion. It's a massive audience.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Video game does money-wise and everything that's better than movies sometimes. So I would say give him his own show. Plus, the guy's a fantastic actor. He's been in tons of stuff, shameless and whatnot. But, yeah, I don't know. Tristan Ernie, hey, Kristen, do you think sometime in the next month or so we'll get news on the new Jedi Order movie like casting and shooting dates,
Starting point is 01:17:19 maybe announcing John Boyega. No, because I think that right now there's going to be a holdback on announcements and all those things while the writer strike is going on. I think that this could absolutely affect the release of this movie in general because if Stephen Knight's writing the movie right now, he's not going to be writing it soon
Starting point is 01:17:44 because he's going to not be turning anything in anyway. He might be writing it, but maybe he's not turning it in. And, yeah, so I don't lose any announcements anytime soon until this writer's strike is done. I think it's kind of going to put a whole halt on the industry at the moment. Sam the Sham, 4-684. You're going to recast or deep-fake legacy characters? Deep-fake.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Yeah, deep-fake at this point. because you've got the tech to do it. If it was de-aging, I'd be kind of opposed to it more so. But with the AI voices coming down to it, if it's like a massive, massive role, I'd still go deep fake because it's how much time they were able to do with Luke inside that episode. So yeah, I would say deep fake.
Starting point is 01:18:37 Last one here, this is the last question of the day. From the Great Wicked Art 5. I saw a couple of articles saying that Calcastus, appear in Mando season four. Now mind you, they say rumor, but this is true. Would you want to see that? Rather him his own series. Me, I'd rather see his own show. Well, I just covered that. So I would rather see his own show. I think it would make sense to do that. You could also play it more so into that tone of what you did for the game. You can kind of make your last of us, if you will, even though you're not adapting it per se. But I'd rather see that. I think that by
Starting point is 01:19:10 sticking them in the favorite show, whatever is working. I don't think you need to do that, but this will be the last one. Darth Vader's burnt asshole. I haven't seen him in a while. Do you think if the accolite is successful, we will see more of the High Republic era in film and TV.
Starting point is 01:19:28 And if not, they'll shy away from it. The books are excellent and we'd see more. That's such a great question, because the first part of it is kind of like an easy answer, right? The first part of is, of course. If the season is, if people love the first season, and you're going to see a second one, if they want to do more High Republic stuff
Starting point is 01:19:43 because of how much people loved it and excited about it and it did really well and their response was amazing, then it's a no-brainer that they would do more. The second part of your question is what I really would want to focus it on because that's not just a Kathleen Kennedy Lucasfilm thing. That's an age-old thing that I saw when it was at Warner Brothers and in general, like the, the, stats that they look. I even listen into the guy who just directed ghosted movie, which I can't stand.
Starting point is 01:20:14 But the way that they look at, well, you got to look at streaming a particular way. If someone's going to turn it off at this point of the movie, you have to do this. It's like, just make the story. Just make the story. I know it's easier said than dumb. It's like, I've done entertaining people click it off. Make a good story, right? And the thing is, if people don't respond to the story and you're happy with the story,
Starting point is 01:20:35 okay, you say, okay, look, it sucks that we didn't do that. But we want to find another story. like that story. So we're going to take a shot with that story. We're going to be creatives here. We're not going to moneyball it. We're not going to go, well, it didn't work out with Han Solo. So that means no Obi-Wan movie, not because people don't want to see legacy characters. No, that's not why people didn't want to see that movie. That's not why it didn't do well. There's a lot of breakdown as far as why. But they automatically go, no, panic mode. People don't want to see those types of characters. We got to pull the plug, pull the plug. No, no, not why that
Starting point is 01:21:08 happen. And it's the same type of thing that would happen here. It's not related to anything. The only one that they had was Yoda in there. And the Yoda scenes did really well. So make the next one, the High Republic, if we're going to do Ackleite Season 2, it's got to be led with Yoda. It's got to be led with, don't do that. Look, if it fits the story, then it fits the story. But it's just like, it's, it's have faith in your creative. Don't try to moneyball it with cameos and stars and, you know, just legacy characters
Starting point is 01:21:43 to connect. And it makes sense. It makes sense. And I was a big advocate and still am for the way that they used Luke in both the Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett. I thought it made a lot of sense on why. So it made no sense that they just took Grogu away from Luke that fast after setting it up.
Starting point is 01:22:04 That was a panic move to me. me. That was a panic move of like they don't know what to do at season three without Grogu. So they figured out a way to put them back together in Bobafat. Panic move. And that's the type of stuff that like tell your story, trust in your story. And I hope that they can do that. But we'll see. Longer episode today. So thank you guys to join me here today. If you're brand new, the channel you've never been here before. Do me a fair. Show a little class. Will you hit that button? Trying to get to 100,000 and we need your help. Do it.
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