The Kristian Harloff Show - NETFLIX'S TUDUM shows off Stranger Things, Happy Gilmore 2, One Piece and more! How did they do?

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

Netflix had their event Tudum this weekend and there was a lot shown. One Piece. Season 2, Stranger Things, Wednesday Season 2, Happy Gilmore 2 and others. How was the overall event? Should other stud...ios follow suit in how this was handled? The Box Office results are here and Karate Kid Legends underperformed. Is this the end of karate for Myagi Do? This and more on the show today with Kristian and John Rocha. #netflix #onepiece #wednsday #strangerthings  Make sure to like, subscribe, and join the conversation in the comments. What story are YOU most hyped (or worried) about? #JamesBond #StarWars #ThePenguin #SpiderManBrandNewDay #MCU #BlackPanther #KarateKidLegends #ChrisHemsworth #TheKristianHarloffShow #MovieNews SPONSORS: TURTLE BEACH: TURTLE BEACH: Head to https://www.TurtleBeach.com and use code KRISTIAN for 10% off your entire order. That's 10% off your order at turtle beach dot com with promo code KRISTIAN. After you purchase, they'll ask you where you heard about them. PLEASE support our show and tell them we sent you. Get the ultimate immersive gaming experience with Turtle Beach today. FACTOR:  Get started at https://www.factormeals.com/kristian5... and use code kristian50off to get 50 percent off plus FREE shipping on your first box. That's code kristian50off at https://www.factormeals.com/kristian5...! TRADE COFFEE:  Right now, Trade is exclusively offering our listeners 50% off your one month trial at https://www.drinktrade.com/KRISTIAN, That's https://www.drinktrade.com/KRISTIAN for 50% off your one month trial.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I don't know how long this fucking show is going to go. I'm in the middle of a Jurassic Park reaction, guys, and this is what happens. I know that this part of it and do not tell me, screw it on, no fucking shit. I've been trying to screw it on. Yes, I made that mistake, y'all. So I don't think we're going to have a show today. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I mean, I could move this over, but like, I've been trying to get this for 15 minutes. Wow. Screw it on. Fuck off. So stupid. This is what you got to have a backup stand. You got to have one right here. I could move it over and do that, but it's like I have so much shit I have to do.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one works fine. Mic down. Mike down. Do this. But I have to move it over. I just have to do this over here, I guess. but like the same thing i got to move this over and it probably doesn't search out that well yeah that
Starting point is 00:01:10 it does i have to move it over though yeah so you guys are cruel some of these comments are hilarious yeah i it's like so um here's what we're going to do i'm just kind of like um here we'll do uh derrick again you guys don't put any more comments in because i can't i just i don't know okay here john real quick tell them your thoughts on to doom or the stupidest name of all time do yeah the Netflix thing uh while christian figures out his technical uh issues there uh and adjust the studio to fit what's going on yeah we had it yes over the weekend um i thought it was okay there were some uh teleprompter glitches there were some presentations that maybe didn't 100 percent get there and to be honest with you i you know it was a good weekend for me getting some nice reaction views for the stuff i did but the
Starting point is 00:02:08 Stranger Things, we only got like 30, maybe 15, 20 seconds of new footage right at the end of that trailer. And Squid Game Season 3, that was a good trailer, gave us a little bit more of what we're going to get. But it wasn't that exciting of a trailer. The Frankenstein trailer, I think, is the winner of the weekend. I don't think a lot of people were clamoring for another version of Frankenstein. But Guillermo del Toro, and he doesn't always knock it out of the park. I think those who are being honest about Guillermo del Toro as a director, he doesn't always knock it out of the park, Crimson Peak, other things. that he's done hasn't quite gotten there but you can sense and you can tell when he's on point
Starting point is 00:02:42 and that trailer felt like he's 100% on point him and oscar isaac even though oscar's doing one of those affected older accents i think it really works um and i love the happy gilmore too trailer i don't you can speak on the one piece i've never seen one piece so they dropped that uh trailer for that for that second season as well that show's just so huge you can tell like the how big the overall fan base is for that um but you know what i would like to address with But to, um, even though I, I understand why it does the sound that it makes. Yeah. I just hate the name so much.
Starting point is 00:03:13 But it was, um, what I do like about what they did with that, I wish that, I think Comic-Con's Star Wars Celebration, all of that should take note. Meaning we're past the day of, well, I bought my ticket to Comic-Con and D-23 for exclusive to get into the thing. tell it anybody else and you're not going to show it to anyone else we're past that it doesn't it it's not because there's there's too many things to get leaked and other things hall h and and dizzney and whoever whoever's in there should televise their hall age panels they should televise and they should do big events and if you're going to spend the money to go to comic con and these other things
Starting point is 00:04:01 put the money and not everybody has Netflix money i get it yeah yeah but put the money into it and put on a show. Now, there was a lot of stuff that I thought was kind of, as the kids say, cringe-worthy of some of the jokes and other things, too. But they put on a show. They put on a show. They had music lacks. They did things. And the presentation was smart. And they benefited by streaming it on their platform. So when Disney's at H, at Hall H, put it on Disney Plus.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah. Back in the old days, remember Star Wars? Celebration did that a few years ago. they streamed it. None of the footage got streamed, but the panels got streamed. I remember watching years ago with the crew over there in the valley that had that, I can't remember the name of the site,
Starting point is 00:04:47 but they invited a bunch of us to go and watch it and did live watch along of the panels. That was a blast. And so, yeah, the panel should absolutely be up there for people to watch in real time. Yeah, maybe you don't release the footage or the trailer because that's exclusive for the people that are there and you'll release it after the panel is done.
Starting point is 00:05:03 But still, it would be fun for people to enjoy that. Because I think you're right, the interactive world is the way to go. As we see more and more people not wanting to go out into the theater to see movies, not wanting to go to public places, a lot of people are just doing stuff from home. And so they'd rather enjoy that. Why should they be left out? You know, it's this kind of exclusivity nonsense that's from decades past. And it should be right. They think, oh, and if the audience bought a ticket for it, that's what they're there for. They're not. It's the same way that like when you go to a concert or anything else too, you're going to see it. You want to see it live. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And there are some people who are going like, well, wait a minute, why am I buying a ticket if it's available to anyone else? Tough shit. It's like you're not going to get the same experience as you are. Not at all. That's what you're saying for. You're going there to see again, but but to take it a page out of what Netflix did, have a musical act. Like, you know, Lady Gaga's up there. Yeah, ghost star studded and put it on.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And it's a show. You got to see someone perform. You got to see exclusive footage. You got different things. And this is what I always said about Comic-Con. Put on a show. I don't want to just see some host who's going, I'm why.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I was so extraordinary about this one. And what it was it like to work with this person? And it's like, no one cares. It's like you want to see it. You want to see the big, you want to see the cast come out. You want to see like even what they did do and like the Rich Eisen thing which coming out with it.
Starting point is 00:06:28 It was great because it's a happy glimmer. It's relevant to the movie itself. you're putting a sports presentation to it, and it's relevant to what's going on within the thing. That is what they did good. Like I said, there's a couple of things I'm going, okay, just fast forward. I get it.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I don't care, but the people there got the experience. Netflix got the benefit because people are watching their stream and checking out everything else, and you're adding to it. So if you're spending the money, if you're these studios, televise it and put it on your streaming service.
Starting point is 00:06:57 You're trying to find all this content to put out together, and yet you're going, oh, it's exclusive. stuff and nobody film anything, who cares? Right, at this point. And they still film stuff, and they still put it out, and they still leak everything for sure. And you're right, Chris, I mean, on the heels of, what, the 37 chairs for the Marvel presentation, you put the Tadum thing in the same basket, and you're like, look, there is a massive audience for people who will actually sit down for hours and watch a
Starting point is 00:07:24 broadcast of your stuff to promote your stuff. So why not open the door to making that more accessible to people. It doesn't make sense anymore to live in that old business model. It doesn't work. But as far as the other to the quality itself, I like the Ben Affleck, Matt Damon movie I'm interested in. It's so funny when I saw that trailer though, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:07:42 we live in such a different time, right? Because you're watching that trailer and it's like the way movies are made now, where Ben Affleck and Matt Damon are making movies for Netflix. For streaming, that's 10, 15 years ago, that's a, that's
Starting point is 00:07:59 a movie theater movie you know 100% yeah and now it's like pick and choose but it's like hey netflix is going to give us the money that's something that that's something people are going to watch on Netflix and talk about and discuss um and it made a lot of sense I think it's interesting and it's you got a better shot of it doing people caring about it and the kind of numbers it can get you put it on you put it on Netflix did you like that trailer and you thought it was just I thought it was fine trailer you know the cookie monster thing was a little a little weird but everything else I thought was was good um with them and to uh connect what you just said to the Guillermo Datoro thing as well.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Someone on one of my reaction videos to that trailer said, hey, I hate that he's not going to let this be in the theaters and then I'm going to put this in the theaters. Like, you can't have one without the other, right? You got to be honest, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Ben Affleck can't sell movies. Matt Damon can't sell movies like they did in the past. That's why you saw Brad Pitt, Clooney, like they all can't sell them like they did in the past, right? So where can you go with filmmakers, where you're going to have the budgets that you had in the past to create the visions that you want to be a part of. Netflix, Apple, these are the streaming places that you see this happening.
Starting point is 00:09:05 So this idea that, oh, I don't, I'm not going to get a chance to see this in theater or why are they working with these streaming services. This is why. Del Toro had a vision for his Frankenstein. He was never going to get the budget from any other studio that he got to make it on Netflix. So this is the exchange, you know, you want to say, good luck with them. Look at he do Pinocchio. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Yeah, he's got good luck with them. So it makes a lot of sense they would do it. And that's, but now a lot of, of these creators, you know, some of them are trying to push back against the Netflix model. A lot of them know the Netflix model. And they know like, okay, look, I'm not going to get a financial, I'm not going to get a theatrical thing. I'm going to go and I'm going to, it's going to give me this money to do it. This is where it's going to live. Some people go into that deal and some people go, well, I was under the, I was under the understanding that there was,
Starting point is 00:09:49 it was going to get a brief theatrical. And if that's in negotiations, then that's on Netflix, right? They got to figure that out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the growing thing. Like, and then they do they came up with the iMac steel which i think was but you look at what Netflix does and he just i think last that that's the dumb thing really showed the shift in what is going on with
Starting point is 00:10:09 entertainment and movies and all that stuff and the way like the kind of money that they have to put on that stuff and it is and that's why i brought up the thing with comic on it's embarrassing when you take like what star war celebration does you know in disney in the way the same mundane freaking you know panels
Starting point is 00:10:26 and things and a Comic-Con, every, every studio, not just Disney, it does the same mundane stuff. And then you look at what they did because, like, yeah, we have the money to do this. We're going to put on a show. We're going to really make it feel like everything that we are doing is important. Like, even their dating shows. They gave it like, yeah, yeah, because how popular it is.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Love it, yeah, yeah. And so One Piece was exciting. Stranger Things, I mean, I, because we even said was, were people interested in Stranger Things, too? Was it too late? I don't think it's too late. I think it's going to get people excited. I like that they're doing three chunks.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I like that so much better because then you at least have time to catch up on however many it is. I don't understand people getting upset about that. A lot of people on social media are upset about the three things drops. Listen, they're not your dad and mom who have to give you what you want when you ask for. They're going to drop it and they're going to let it breathe a little bit, as you just said, Christian so people can enjoy it and talk about it and analyze it and get excited. That's the number one thing and get excited for the next drop of episodes. And one is just what? One's Christmas and the other one is New Year's. So you're not even waiting like two weeks. You're waiting less than a week
Starting point is 00:11:36 to get it. So it's just this instant gratification crap that drives me nuts from some people. Like they're going to drop it this way because they want to build up anticipation. It's the last season. So let them have the finale of the way they're smart. And they're not doing it within like six month period. Right, exactly. This is like, this is the last of us. No, it's like the first of it's like,
Starting point is 00:11:55 it's like Thanksgiving, Christmas and then New Year's. It's like boom, bum, boom. And it's so funny to show you how old, my, my wife and I are getting,
Starting point is 00:12:03 we're sitting there with my 13-year-old watching, because, oh, on Wednesday was the other thing, right? So we're watching the, right, six minutes, yeah. We're watching the Wednesday part of it.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And, and I go to dumb, it's such a stupid name. I don't even name it that. I don't know, we're trying to figure it out. My wife goes, and my daughter looks at me,
Starting point is 00:12:17 She goes, it's the name. It's the noise that it makes when you turn it on. And we're like, oh, yeah. So there you go. Yeah. Anyway, so. Yeah, circle of life. Yeah, circle life.
Starting point is 00:12:30 But in general, I thought it was a really good, a really good event because, like I said, and I think this, the girl, and this is, again, showing you how old I'm getting. Do you know where I recognize the host from? Not her new show. No. Descendants from watching it with my kids. Oh, yeah, yeah, right. She was one of the main women in descendants.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And I thought she did a good job hosting. I think she did a good job. I mean, you know, you mentioned Hall H. Almost all those Hall H people are handed talking points and handed questions. They don't usually come up with them. But to navigate an entire thing like this, I think speaks volumes to her abilities. Who knows? Maybe down the road she's hosting a Golden Globes or an Oscars.
Starting point is 00:13:09 She shouldn't host a Lung Globes. She's a singer and an actress, you know, too. She doesn't need to host those things. She's out down the road. You never know. Maybe I think she was doing it more so to promote her the thing that she's got you know, but like you look at like they they went all even the knives out they did the knives out thing. Yeah, that was cool. And they, like they spared no expense and they did they did what they needed to do and it made a lot of sense. I think it was a success. I think that it did well. Yeah, it also shows why I need a home studio because like I'm like I'm not driving my studio to go like react and watch these things. I'm just not doing. Um, so it was um, it was. It was. Um, it was. It. It. It was really, I think, again, a big win for them overall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And I think they're going to see. And Happy Gilmore, too. I'm, I really liked the trailer for the first one. Yeah. The second one's making me a little nervous. Really? Just a little. It could either be great or it could be.
Starting point is 00:14:03 I love seeing MJ up there. Where did he come from? I know, right? That was hilarious. Filarious. On top of the car. hilarious. And it almost doing like that, what were they?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Was it step brothers? Not step brothers. Oh, four Christmases? No, no, no, me, myself and Irene. Oh, yeah, yeah. But it's, he's lost it all, and now he's had to come back. And we'll see. I'm my fingers across.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I'm excited to see. I'm not excited about his, I'm not excited about his daughters didn't look like they, they were up to stuff there. So I get it. You want to cast him? Oh, you know, his son's daughters and his wife's in it too. You know, so they, this week in the night puts everybody in it. A lot of people speculate that Julie's dead.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Do you, do you buy that? It's possible. character has died and that's why he's been depressed and she's talking from the happy place yeah she's talking from the happy place it's possible because she's there promoting it right and and it might be a big enough role but yeah where is she in the live action scenes so nowhere nowhere there along the sidelines or they no right no and if it was divorced or anything along those lines they would probably would incorporate that in the actual thing so yeah yeah um anyway i love the story yeah what did everyone think about all this and more.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Would you think about that mic stand that I want to fight? Look this piece of shit. Look at this. Look at this. Just staring at me. Shit hound. Anyway, we're going to get a, we're going to get to some more stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:29 There's a big box office thing that we're going to discuss. And before we do it, I've told you about Turtle Beach. You guys, keep getting Turtle Beach. I'm so excited for that. I want them to be around forever. I really hope you're listening to us when we're talking about it. But I can't tell you about Turtle Beach. yet because I have other things I'm going to talk about first I'll bring up Turtle Beach
Starting point is 00:15:48 after that why you want the honest to do honest John or should I make something up no do always be honest okay because I forgot to load the ad to the thing so not as exciting yeah I'll put it back in there but what we'll do that's what she said so what we need to do is bring up this this dear devil thing because um says dare double and again, the ratings are a concern. That's the new story. That's it. It says, Daredevil Born Again, ratings are a concern.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Questions are being raised about the potential future of a Daredevil Born Again following the series hitting an unfortunate milestone. Back in March 2025, Disney Plus reported that the two-episode premiere of Deer Devil Born Again reached 7.5 million views in its first five days of availability on the streaming service. That is the biggest premiere of the year to date for Disney, but it was a, but it was a, but it was small compared to some other high-profile Marvel launches on the service in recent times like Agatha all along with 9.3 and its first seven days and Loki season two, 10.9.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Comicbook.com reports that the series is the first live action Marvel show that has failed to make Nielsen's top 10 of original streaming services during its run. Nielsen's top 10 streaming charts are always several weeks behind the airing of shows. The current chart, for example, runs from April 28 to May 4th. where the second season of Andor is in third place of the original and sixth on the overall charts, though it's multi-episode weekly release schedule is likely to have helped it out a bit there. Born again, wrapped its run on April 15th, and the series reportedly failed to show up in the top 10 originals or overall numbers,
Starting point is 00:17:29 not just during the show's weekly run, but in the two to three weeks afterwards, indicating limited weekly viewership and not a lot of people waiting to marathon. The show's second season is currently in production ahead of March 2026 release, and is expected to fear better thanks to the inclusion of at least one, if not more, returning heroes from defenders. These numbers, however, have drawn obvious concern from fans over the chances of a third season. Comments from Andor creator Tony Gilroy at the ATX TV festival on Thursday have only fueled that speculation.
Starting point is 00:18:01 He revealed that Disney told him that streaming is dead. We don't have the money we had before with the second season of Andor likely one of the last costly per episode productions the streamer will put out. I love the honesty from Tony Gilroy inside of that and he said that and I believe him a thousand percent that they said that to him unless they were just bullshitting him and like we can't do it on this season. We don't have any more money. People go, how do they not have any more money? Because the model was not sustainable for what they were doing. That is the answer.
Starting point is 00:18:28 It doesn't matter who you are. When you're dumping out $230 million for Acolyte, you're not putting enough results on your other shows that were doing well. Yeah. What in the hell are you doing over there? Of course you don't have any money to do that. And if you're Bob Eiger and you're looking at here's a, here's a series we're going to do with Moana. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:18:49 Turn it into a movie. Oh, you think so? Yeah. Why? Because it just made a billion dollars, dummy. And they're going to do the same thing. But they're talking about that with Punisher now. The Punisher series that they were going to do,
Starting point is 00:19:01 they're going to turn that into an hour and 45 minute movie now. That's exactly what they should do. That's what they should do. And if it costs you that if you, that's how you can make some money back. I think. Look, I was all for the idea of doing series and I'm, and I'm going to, I'll be the first a minute that when they were saying Star Wars are going to do shows, like, great, stick to shows. If you're actually going to dive into characters and put the money into it and do stuff, I thought like, I thought everything was going to be not serious like Andor, but structured like Andor and written like Andor and you put that kind of effort into it.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I was like, great, let's do that. They didn't do it. And they overspent stuff and they over did it. And they did a thousand different shows. They should have done one show a year. They did three Marvel shows. They did two Star Wars shows. And they just, oh, people want it? Oh, we just let's just spend money on everything. And they don't put any effort into it because they think the audience are idiots.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And the audience says, no, we're not idiots. You guys are idiots for spending that kind of money. And now they have no money. So this doesn't surprise me at all. What's the layout now going to be like, John? I mean, I think the, when you look at the idea of streaming, we just finished glowingly talking about Netflix. So I think to add a couple of words of Tony Gilroy's sentence there about it, Disney said,
Starting point is 00:20:15 streaming is dead for us. That's what that should have, that's what the sentence should have been. Because they have failed at streaming. They failed at it, not looking at it, because a constant stream of underperforming shows, under delivering shows eventually will harm your future shows because people don't believe you're picking the right creators, the right showrunners, you're meddling too much in it. People want to blame the accolade us. Still stand firm that I think, Falunian.
Starting point is 00:20:39 went in there, some of the executives went there, mess with Leslie Headland's vision, got scared that she was doing a darker approach to Star Wars that, God forbid, had some sympathy on the Sith, and she was told to turn it all around to make it a young adult easily connectable show, and that's why it failed. So there's so many reasons
Starting point is 00:20:55 for once, and don't listen to the social media people who love everything Disney does, or I stand for this, I'll fight for it. It's nonsense. The reality of the statistics, the reality of the numbers, the reality of the financial numbers, that's what you've got to look at for success. And clearly, the ratings aren't great, the financial returns are not great, and I'm not surprised that Disney is telling
Starting point is 00:21:13 creators that streaming is dead for them, because Netflix has been successful at it. Look, Apple is making some great shows, and they aren't coming anywhere close to the numbers that Disney or Netflix is getting for their stuff, but they're still making quality shows so people know they can go to Apple TV and watch more often than not a damn well, a really good, well-made show. That's a difference. You're suffering in quality. And Apple also just, and Apple just poops money. Yeah, and wins awards. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:43 When's the last time we saw Disney streaming? Right. But I mean, I mean, they poop money like as outside of streaming stuff. It's like a billionaire's hobby that costs them. Exactly. They make so much money they can spend. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And it's real, Disney does too. Yeah, but Disney focuses on movies and TV. Yeah, they have theme parks and they make a lot of money in theme parks, but it's different as far as how that goes. And they have other things that they do, but primarily, you know, movies and TV, Apple, it's about tech and other things that they have where they're making money. And they go, oh, yeah, you know, we have that little side project where we spend money on a, we have a streaming service.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Oh, you do? Yeah, we want to, like, hire every, like, big wig celebrity to do some. Yeah, it's going to cost us some money. Yeah, it'll probably lose a lot of money. Yeah, but is it, but can we do it? Yeah. All right. Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Give George Clooney you $25 million to make wolves. Why? Why not? It doesn't hurt them. it doesn't hurt them. They could they could do, it can lose money every year and then buy Disney while they're doing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Like there was talk about them buying Disney. Like that's how much money they have. And it's just, it's not a priority to them. Like as where it is, like, oh, we don't know what to do.
Starting point is 00:22:55 We don't know what to do. It would be a priority for Disney if they were good at it. And the fact that they're not good at it, which is very clear, is the reason why they don't make it a priority. And they don't want to fix it now. They just want to focus on theatricals, Because as you said, I came in, turned Moana 2 into a whole movie by cobbling those episodes together, made a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:23:13 So it's like it makes all the sense of the world to do it that way. You know, which one? The one now just is about to come out. Let me start with the Lilo and Stitch live action. $600 million in like, what, 15 days? That's insane. So they were. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:25 So their movies are doing. Exactly. So they're like they had that idea of what they were going to do. And then when what's his face? Bob Chaper came in and said, let's just make a bunch of streaming. things and just greenlit everything. They're still, they're still paying for that. Yeah. They're still paying for that. So like, they're
Starting point is 00:23:42 now turning some of these things into movies and, and like I said, you do that with Moana. I mean, they're doing it with Mandalorian and Grogu also. Mandolin and Grogu is essentially Mandalorian season four. It's supposed to be season four. Yeah, you're right. That's it. They just said, okay, look, hey, John, you have
Starting point is 00:23:58 the whole script done. Can you just write a version of that as a movie and do the movie instead? I mean, the $140 million we were going to give you for the season. Can you just do that for a movie? Yeah. Yeah, I think I can make that happen. Great.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Then do that. And that way we can make some money over it. Because that's what people don't understand. They are going to make, because there's still a big debate on it. So we posted a clip on it on the clips channel. Okay. And it was a lot of people say it's going to bomb. It's going to do terribly.
Starting point is 00:24:28 It's going to, it very well could be disappointing. Do I think it'll bomb? No. Do I think financially it could be disappointing? It's possible. I don't know how much people trust Star Wars anymore. Yeah. Also a very good possibility that we haven't seen Star Wars in the theater since 2019,
Starting point is 00:24:44 and people might still want to see a Star Wars movie in May. And the audiences that are the casual audience, no baby Yoda, and want to take their kids and go and see it. And there's an opportunity for them to actually make some cash. So they could, even if it makes, you know, because it's going to be one of the lower budgeted movies. Right. They still have an opportunity, even if it does $600 million, to do well in this thing,
Starting point is 00:25:14 which is a good business model. They won't stick with that with the movies. They're going to go 200 and up. Of course. Yeah, but I don't know. Do you agree, disagree with any of that? Yeah, no, I agree with you 100% on what your analysis on that is. Because that's the thing with them when they're looking at it.
Starting point is 00:25:30 They know where they're going to make their money. and they know theatrically that's now been proven over the last few years. And I do, but I do want to push back on one thing. I think Iger is the one who started the idea of going into streaming. Of course. Chaping is the one who ran with it. So they're both of them,
Starting point is 00:25:47 both of them carry some blame. Some people like to. Not necessarily. Iger in the blame category. Wait, wait, before you say that though, wait,
Starting point is 00:25:54 you can, you can have an idea and say, if I say to you, John, I have an idea to do this, this, this, this and this.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Here's my idea. Right? And I think that we should go, go into streaming and do this. And here's how we're going to map this out. Marvel should do this. Marvel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Those new ideas. Here you go. Run with it. Right. So you're going old. Iger came out with that plan. Right. So he gives it to Chepec and Shepak throws all this stuff and does all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And it fails. Now you could reverse it and say, well, wait a minute. What if Cheapac wasn't there and Iger was there? And he said, yeah, yeah, but you shouldn't have done it that way. Maybe. But what you could have done it was this way and not put all that money in there. And we could have been successful with it. I mean, it's a, it's a what if scenario.
Starting point is 00:26:33 but I don't you can't blame somebody for greenlighting the idea but I also think if he believed in it when he came back into power he would have put it back in motion but it was a disaster by then dude it was a disaster yeah yeah it was a disaster they had had so much failure by the time he got back and all the things that were and the brand got diluted and it's and we can't just blame it on chepeck and Iger fagie as much as he was 100% yeah as much as figy was people he was too busy sure but they made some really bad decisions of what they were putting forward because they had that Guardians of the Galaxy mentality of, you know what?
Starting point is 00:27:09 People just want to see new things all the damn time with all these new characters, and we have earned that now. We can do it. You earned it up until end game. After end game, you had no way home, which was, I really liked the movie. It was great for nostalgia too, but it was, I liked the movie a lot. But after you run into, out of your IPs, some of these new characters and other things that they do and the way they ran with certain things, people were like, no, thanks.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it will disagree with you. So that's it. What do you guys make of all of it? What do you think about it? Put your thoughts in there, let me know. Now I'm going to tell you about Turtle Beach. And I'm excited, please, you will not, you are going to be thanking me if you get Turtle Beach.
Starting point is 00:27:49 It is, the headphones are so good. I'll tell you about them. Okay, it is great to have Turtle Beach back. And I've been talking about Turtle Beach. You guys have been raving about Turtle Beach, why wouldn't you? The Stealth 700 headset that I got, it was so great. It just was stood out to me. It was the sound, man.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Like, just playing that Indiana Jones game, as I've told you guys, you could just hear every little thing. I love it. And it's just, it locks me in. It's better than the other previous headsets I've had. I've just had, I don't like being aware that there's other things going on around me. I like being locked into it and hearing every bit of the sound design and just comfortability, to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I could wear them for hours. I did. It's almost like they're so comfortable in my head. I was like, oh, I didn't realize I had these things on. I love how precise the audio is. It just, I just feel like I'm so locked into the game when I'm doing it. And it's like that feeling I get when I'm in the theater. I'm just in the world because of the sound.
Starting point is 00:28:47 I love sound. You guys know that. The other thing that's great about is the 80-hour battery. That's crazy. I mean, you don't even feel like you ever have to even charge it. The worst is you're playing something and then it just craps out on you. And you're like, oh, no. The Cell 700, it has the industry's first ever cross-exam.
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Starting point is 00:29:45 All right. Thank you to Turtle Beach. And like I said, I really hope you guys are checking that out. The reason they came back is because you guys were checking them out. So I hope you do that and more. John, you and I were going back and forth on text this week talking about the box office as we usually do. Yeah. And we both were like,
Starting point is 00:30:02 Oof, poor karate kid. That's hilarious. Cratty box office karate chopped. This game pays off. Sony's Karate Kid Legends hasn't quite been the box office powerhouse. That was hoped last week. Who was hoping it was good? Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Sorry, go ahead. I'm sure that they were. And I'm sure that they've, off the, off of, we can talk about it once we get into it. But I'm sure with Probra Kai, like, they probably thought it was going to be big. but then we'll talk about. Last week, the method projections had it at 25 million opening weekend, but now it's looking closer to 21, says the studio what others are indicating can be lower than around 19 to 20.
Starting point is 00:30:42 A 45 million budget has been open since May in some global territories and has so far managed for the 26 overseas, bringing its worldwide gross to 47 million. It likely won't lose money for the studio at least. A lot will depend on how it fares next weekend. and if those high audiences score pan out. The box office is instead all about Lilo and Stitch and Mission Impossible. The Disney live action remake of Lilo and Stitch is now at 63 million domestically in its second weekend,
Starting point is 00:31:10 a drop of 57% internationally, a fared even better, taking in a further 113.1 million overseas, and a drop of just 28%. The result is a worldwide gross of 611 million and a good shot at the title. You've become close or breaking the billion dollar. mark by the end of its run. Mission Impossible, the final reckoning, pulled in 27.3, domestically dropping the same 57% rate. Internationally, it's also performing better with 76.1 overseas,
Starting point is 00:31:39 only a drop of 33% in its second frame. Overall, the film has a worldwide gross of 354. Final Destination Bloodlines also continues to impress. The $50 million budgeted horror film has pulled in $2.29 million worldwide so far with fairly even half domestic, half overseas split. banked to further 10.8 domestically this weekend. That's a big number. 824 unveiled horror film Bring her back, which opened in fifth place domestically with 7.1, a decent start for the gory and well-reviewed title. Biggest news for this weekend, though, outside of karate fizzling is West Anderson's a Phoenician scheme, which is the top grossing limited opening of the year with an estimated $570,000 from six locations, New York and L.A., per screen average of $95,000. film will expand to 1,500 cinemas next weekend.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Let's start with Karate Kid. I didn't get a chance to see you're out of the theater. I'm assuming you feel the same way that I do about it. Go ahead, yes. We discussed it. Yes. Yeah, and I said that I just think that the movie, it doesn't really know what the hell it wants to be.
Starting point is 00:32:43 The acting's fine. It's like nobody knows what it was to be. Jackie Chan and Ralph Macho in her for like 25 minutes. At first, it's a karate kid remake for 20 minutes. Then it's like, oh, yeah, he just could beat up by the bull. The next thing, he's flipping off the walls and he's teaching Joshua Jackson, Kung Fu, but yet he still can't beat up this, the kid from Ms. Marvel.
Starting point is 00:33:05 It's like, what are he doing here? The movie itself was, that's a streaming movie. That is a, 100%. Yeah, it is the, it's one of those movies you watch and you go, yeah, at least I've watched it on TV. You get outside and go to watch that in the theater and a lot of people, most people are going, what did I just do? I'm assuming you felt the same way.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah, yeah, 100. I went and saw it over the weekend on Saturday. There was only five people in the theater with me. So a nice open area. And I caught myself at times checking my text messages through the movie because it felt like a TV movie. And it did not feel like one of those theatrical features. As you said, it starts out well because the introduction of Ben Wang. I like it.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And you're thrust into the story. Like the story wastes no time. There's an issue between the mom and the son. Jackie Chan is training him. And we know that from the, so then the mom is taking him someplace else. All right. great, as you said, very karate kid-esque and the references that they're making,
Starting point is 00:33:59 except you're throwing in this tragedy with the story. So I was in. And then you introduced, and he's like chilling in New York. Like, it's no big deal. I transition to New York. I can figure out the subway. It's no big deal. And then he's making friends really quickly.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And then boom, he's got a girl really quickly. And then boom, he's involved in training. So there's just so much that they're rushing from one plot point to the next, that they give you no time to really sit and savor these characters and enjoy their interactions, enjoy their back and forth. and really care about them. Because I think a better writer would have really written a fantastic script where he starts out as a karate kid,
Starting point is 00:34:33 tastes what it's like to be a Miyagi in training Joshua Jackson's character and how that changes him as now Jackie Chan and Daniel LaRuso show up to train him how all three of these things are combining to turn him into a better fighter. And he's going to learn this shit in seven days. It's just such nonsense throughout the whole movie that it becomes just increasingly stupid. and then by the end, not even the final fight is worth it, to be honest with you. Post credits are awesome. Post credit.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah, the post credit was funny. But they dropped the ball on the main villain guy, too. Zapka had way more of a buildup in the karate kid movie than this kid had, unfortunately. It's generic and a lot of it. They dropped the ball, Sony did, in the way that they approached this. They said, oh, people love karate kid again. No, people love Kobe Kai. They watched COBra Kai because they loved Karate Kid.
Starting point is 00:35:23 but you kept them on for as long as you did because you fell in love with everybody involved in. Not having Josh, Hayden, and John involved in this was an error. It was a big mistake. Clearly, clearly. Clearly, but huge mistake.
Starting point is 00:35:37 They just tried to go off their property and combine both Jackie Chan and Ralph Macho together. Yeah. Introduce a new character. They try to change things up. And it failed. They should have done a movie
Starting point is 00:35:50 in the same way that they did sex in the city, do a corporate kind movie. You finish it up. You got a better shot at COBRA Kai. This movie is an hour and a half long. You make a $45 million dollar COBRA Kai movie. You would have seen at least, like this movie will maybe break even. Like it said, it depends on what happens next weekend.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You got ballerina coming out, which probably take out some of the audience. Not what's a damn different rating, but still, it's still kind of in the same genre. So, yeah, the stuff that does stand out box office wise, though, is to me is, two things final destination is juggernaut yes it's a juggernaut I were like what the fact that it costs that little it's still bringing that kind of money um and this is funny because I just started kind of watching the series I'm gonna cut up on five I haven't seen six yet but like I understand the formula and if you do it and you change it up a little bit you can really have fun with these as long as you don't overspend on it and they didn't do that and they're reaping the
Starting point is 00:36:47 benefits yeah 100% yeah I like seeing that as well and you know such a good movie, such a fun movie. It's not, again, not the best of installments, but it's certainly a good one to come back from after all these years and get people excited about the franchise again. And the fact that it's proven to be a box office winner means more actors, more creatives are going to be
Starting point is 00:37:06 attracted to doing an installment of this. So that's going to be a lot of fun down the road. Maybe even some up-and-coming ones with some new ideas, new visions, new approaches to it, which will be great. For me, the other two things here, the more, the Lilo and Stitch, that's so fantastic the way it's killing.
Starting point is 00:37:22 it. My concern, though, with dead reckoning, I mean, or final reckoning, dropping 57%? I mean, the last one made with, what, $574 million or something like that? And so the concern becomes, is this one even going to, I mean, because we're about to get into the thick of things, man. We're not that far away from the thick of things. There's no world that movie breaks even. Yeah. I don't think even breaks 500. And that concerns me. That concerns me. The movie costs almost $400 million to make or something like crazy, but because of the COVID stuff and everything, too. Yeah. It's got to make like $700 to $800 million to like break even.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Let's let's be, let's be generous and say, let's be 100% correct. Let's be generous and say $675 that it needs to make. I'm always going to make that. It's not going to make it. No way, no way. It's not going to mean. I mean, look, I'm going to dig into it. That's for sure.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah. But what it's cemented is that you are, two things are going to happen. Yeah. Well, three things are going to happen. Either Paramount is going to decide, hey, maybe we should try a mission impossible TV series, streaming series, and just do that and build off of that and do a TV series. And without Ethan Hunt, do your own thing and see if you can survive on whoever the new person is and try a season of it.
Starting point is 00:38:33 That's possible. The other thing they're going to do is, okay, well, we're not going to do another mission impossible with Tom Cruise and Chris Pardry because they're going to spend too much money and we're not going to make it back. And Tom Cruise doesn't really care. He's doing Top Gun 3. The other thing that they could potentially do is, okay, can we do a Mission Impossible movie with somebody else that's going to be cheaper and can we make it for you know 150 million dollars
Starting point is 00:38:57 yeah i can't remember who was saying that's one of these actors was saying that about oh isai morales on the red carpet they asked him what would you want to see tom cruise do next in the mission impossible friend he says i want him to ascend to the level where he's the one picking the team but he's not necessarily doing the full mission like the other people are doing the mission he's handling stuff on a side side mission or whatever that helps the overall mission. Because he's getting that age now
Starting point is 00:39:26 where he's over 60 now where these things are going to start costing him physically. So I like that idea. That's how you save this franchise. You've had a really good new young hot lead. And then you move Tom into the advisor role, essentially what John Voight was playing before he turned in the first movie.
Starting point is 00:39:42 You could move Tom in that role. So he's still prominent and he's still getting his money as an executive producer. But he's not the main guy and I think that's what is going to save this franchise if they want to go forward with it because yeah this one I saw a screen ran article saying that they think it might challenge rogue nation at 68 million I'm like you're insane you're insane the numbers if it's dropped 57% in the second week already it is not going to come even close to 68 that's nonsense yeah the problem though with the scenario that you and east hammer alls both want for
Starting point is 00:40:13 for that is that you're still having to pay tom cruise Tom Cruise money Yeah, if I'm in the studio, I'm like, look at these last two returns, Tommy. I think I'm going to say, my name's Tom Cruise, Pay me. It's going to be like Polly from Goodfellas, F you, pay me. Yeah, as much as, and I don't disagree with people who would clap back and say, Mission Impossible is not Mission Impossible at Tom Cruise. I don't disagree, but it doesn't mean the studio is not going to say, hey, what if we try to do Mission Impossible without Tom Cruise?
Starting point is 00:40:44 That's because the last two movies that are done with him have not broken. even because they're spending too much money on these movies. Yeah, but they tried that with Transformers, right? Let's do Transformers on Michael Bay. How'd that work out? You know, it's... Bumblebee is a significantly better movie, though. Yeah, but it didn't make money. You know, I mean, it didn't bomb, but it still didn't...
Starting point is 00:41:02 Neither did Rise of Beasts. But Michael Bay is also responsible for that. If you look at the numbers, each movie he started to do was diminishing returns. I don't disagree through there. Well, he kind of diluted, he kind of diluted the brand. And he's like, hey, this is a... a really nice house. Yeah, but I've, I have mold in the walls now, but enjoy the house, and then the house crumbles down and it's getting, there's mold everywhere. It's like,
Starting point is 00:41:27 oh, well, it's not, it's not the previous owner's fault. The hell it isn't. Yeah, but the new owners remodel that no one wants to live in it. Because he didn't get rid of the mold. You didn't get rid of the mold. And Michael Bay put the mold in there. Well, what's talking to this story. I know you don't, I don't think you have it on the rundown. What's in the story that broke today on the rap that Azalov had considered hiring Michael Bay to direct the Superman movie before the guy was the rap reported
Starting point is 00:41:53 before I don't you know they're not there are not a lot of fights that I believe the rap I believe that was the one they chose but they Zazov really considered bringing in Michael Bay for Superbair. That just cements the fact the guy has no idea what he's doing when it comes to I said it wouldn't break the franchise
Starting point is 00:42:10 it would break the world if he had a Michael Bay Superman for God. But that's just somebody out of touch with the idea. He's never, he's never claimed to be a movie guy. He's a business guy, right? And you, and he's also an older business guy that remembers.
Starting point is 00:42:25 He's like, oh, I remember that walking into the theater and seeing those, that Armageddon movie. And Armageddon did really, really well. It's like it was the 90s guy. It's a different time back then. He's like, yeah, what's the difference? Like, a lot of these people are just out of, out of touch, you know, with what works and what doesn't.
Starting point is 00:42:42 um putting michael bay directing that i mean the band would have it would have been like mosquitoes the oh and an open wound like are you kidding me michael i mean every it's the one time that you would have seen zach snyder fans and every other fan combined together going what are you doing you know what i mean it's like who else would like every they would that's that's how like Braveheart unite the clans how do we do it hire michael bay perfect well we've been absolutely ridiculous Megan fox is lowest laying in a way too tight blouse a small motion that she's walking with the with the camera and you know like wait she holding a camera and all can see her legs in her rear end it's it's like so yeah uh he probably put like red
Starting point is 00:43:30 white and blue trunks on on superman they changed i mean superman would shoot would shoot rockets shooting rockets in slow motion. No. That's ever been the absolute worst thing that ever happened. Sydney, Sweeney would have been that low. But here's the thing, though, but this is why also, to be, to be fair, as much as I say that about Zazovr, really, he clearly doesn't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:43:53 The argument against what I just said is, well, wait a minute. Yeah. He was going to. And then he had conversations with people that said, maybe you should do that. And he said, oh, all right, what about the James Gun and Safran guy? and he didn't make that decision. He went with saffron and gun. So like, you know, it's like it's
Starting point is 00:44:11 it could be the Michael Bay said, you know what? Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe he's not. Maybe they didn't want to pay him. Maybe they didn't want to pay him. Like you said, Tom Cruise, I'm Michael Bay. You're going to pay. Also true.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I mean, it's also Dunes is going to produce it. I know. I know. It's also very true that that could have been the case. But luckily enough. You're trying to give credit to a guy not shooting the gun, even though he pulled the gun at. Oh, he didn't shoot. It didn't shoot. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Oh, speaking to which, so I've got, I've got the official kind of story up here. It's a bunch of different things on here. There it is. Yeah, there it is. So this new Superman budget, bang, and influence talk. So let's see, a lengthy feature piece on James Gunn, Superman has been posted by the rat this morning. Confirm some more details about the films, gestation, economics, and overall studio concerns. First up, the outlet indicates the film boasts a production budget of 225, one studio insider.
Starting point is 00:45:04 says anything north of 500 million worldwide box office will be considered a profit. However, a top talent agent said the big issue the film faces isn't competition from Jurassic World or Fantastic Four. Rather, it's almost entirely a question if Superman resonates with today's audience and if Gen Z can identify with his old-fashioned character. They advise that the film will need to cross 700 million to be considered a true success. The simple brand recognition of Superman will probably take them to or close to 500 million worldwide. Anything above that will be because the audience identifies with the title character. The Henry Cavill led Man of Steel made 670 million worldwide, while Batman v. Superman made it to 874 million.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Those are the benchmarks to match or beat. The film is also, not surprisingly, being pegged as a major ellipist test for not just DC or superhero films, but Warner Brothers Pictures future as well. Peace also reveals in 2022, Warner's chief, Mike DeLuca, Pam Abdi, briefly tried to get a new Henry Cavill-led Superman film going with Michael Bay, I'd to possibly be correct. Okay, that was supposed to be Henry Cavill.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Poor Henry Cavill. It's stuck with all the bad shit. This took before Gunn and Safran was hired or hired to run DC Studios and Zazlov reconstructing D.C. To separate it from the larger Warner Brothers pictures group, so the pair reported directly to Zazlof, not DeLuca, and Pam Abdi. The article follows on From Gunn, revealing yesterday that the acclaimed Godzilla minus 1 was a big influence on the movie, showing how to do great human drama mixed with major action, like that. Meanwhile, Nicholas Holt has revealed to Empire that he cites Gene Hackman and Michael Rosenbaum's character interpretations as the biggest influences on his work as Luther in the film.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Well, the first thing I'd say is, you had mentioned, though, in that article that it was Zazlov. They say it's Dulcun Abdi that wanted... Zazlov was considering it, is what I'm getting it. And he's the final guy that says, you're the one, true, true. But me, but that's my point. He went out and, they went out and said, hey, what about Michael Bay? And he's like, will he do it? But they came up with that idea.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Yeah, sure. Like, that's, that's like, that's, that's, that's watching the studio. And that's like, you know, you get Sal and Seth Rogen going up and going, hey, what do you think about Michael Bay doing this? And then they go to, to Brian Cranston. He's like, what do you think you'll do it? You know, that's that kind of, that's that kind of moment. But those two are to blame for that.
Starting point is 00:47:27 If Pauli and Silvio come up with something. and Tony even considers it. Tony takes some of the blame. Totally fair. Totally, absolutely fair. You shouldn't have little numbers. I know, absolutely fair. But I think that overall, I like what I'm hearing.
Starting point is 00:47:41 I like the idea of, you know, where they're going with the character pieces. And Gunn's always been good with that. You can't just do blowing up and, oh, look, it's a cute dog. You've got to do, you've got to care about the characters and you got to care about Superman for sure. and I also agree with the assessment of the numbers. Let's say if it's 225 or whatever it might be. 500. The new DCU is able to survive,
Starting point is 00:48:07 but they're going to be against the ropes, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anything over, like 600 up, they're like, okay, we got Superman out there. We're doing good. 700 and up, it's a hit, right? 700 up, it's a hit. And then you can keep making your movies and you can breathe a little easier. Anything lower than 500, like they said, it is,
Starting point is 00:48:27 a big problem for DC in general and a huge problem for Warner Bros. That's why these first reactions are going to be massive. The first reviews, the first reactions, because I think the tracking, if I can see, it's tracking for 154 to 185 as of a few days ago per box office theory, right? 154 to 185. Snyder had it at 175. His tracking from what he's seeing is 175. So that's a good start.
Starting point is 00:48:58 175 opening weekend is crazy. Yeah, but if the movie is mixed in terms of the reactions, that could affect the subsequent box office weeks and that could drive it. Sure, but John, even if it has a, sorry, but let's say his number, let's say his number is 175 is accurate for domestic. It's beyond good because it means even if you have a 50% drop, your drop second week is still going to be pretty damn good.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I'm saying you get out the gate really fast. You hit that number. But I think anything, I think they got to get above 700. They got to make better. They got to do better than men of steel or else all the articles come out going, why didn't this do better than man of steel? And it's a bad look. And I think they've been coming out with these comments because THR did an article on Friday.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Now the rap does a breakdown of this whole thing because there were reports, Jordan Rumi over at World of Real and other places that were talking about behind the scene issues. They cut 25 minutes off of this thing. They leaned away from the humor. They brought in a new composer. So there's a lot of drama behind the scene. So they're trying to combat it with this approach. And it's not an accident that gun drops Godzilla minus one.
Starting point is 00:50:04 That's to get people thinking that it's in that well. And then it's not an accident. Then Nicholas Holt mentioned the two favorite Lex Luthor's, Gene Hackman and Michael. It makes sense. I actually hope that rumor is true. I've been telling you that. Some humor and Jimmy Olson and that stuff is fine,
Starting point is 00:50:21 but like gun can't help himself. when it comes to humor. You just can't help himself. And I hope it doesn't overpower the movie. I really hope it doesn't have the power of the movie. And if that was the case for like it, people are going to lose their minds, you got to you got to change us. There's some, there's a comment in here that didn't make sense. It said that that first reactions are irrelevant. It's word of mouth that is important. But that's the same thing. This is word of mouth. Yeah. I'm confused. Maybe they mistyped it. I'm going to is that. All right. So that's my question then for you guys. What do you think about? Do you think
Starting point is 00:50:55 that this movie is going to make that kind of money? Do you think it's going to do well? Or is Warner Brothers in trouble? Put your thoughts in it or let me know. And also make sure if you haven't subscribed to the Clips channel, Christian Harleff Clips, just put it in your search bar, subscribe to it. If 25 of you do that today, we're going to hit 10,000 subscribers. So make sure you do that. All right. Let's get into your questions. John starting to be this week, John, way better week this week than Memorial Day for you last week.
Starting point is 00:51:23 So we got you at 33 already, but before we do it, what's going on in the channel, my man? Yeah, the Outlaw Nation channel. Head on over there, ladies and gentlemen. A lot of fun stuff going on. I spent the whole weekend doing reaction videos to the to do-dum stuff from Netflix, which is a lot of fun. Dropped a reaction two reactions today. The Megan 2.0
Starting point is 00:51:39 we dropped it in a report by one, and then earlier the Black Phone 2. I did a lot of fun. That was a lot of fun reacting that one. But we've got Spill the Tequila back tomorrow. own night. Me and Wednesday, Marshall, talking about some hot topic news. Take the exit. Turn right into the dry-through. Nope. I'm making dinner tonight. You don't have time. Josh has practice. Oh, that's right. I'll just get a salad. And fries? No, just the salad. But salad cancels fries.
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Starting point is 00:52:33 So a lot happening on the channel. Come aboard here. YouTube.com slash John Roker says the Outlaw Nation. These guys go and check that out. And, you know, as I was saying, we got so much coming up to it. Today we did. So Sadie and I are going back and one. watching she hadn't seen Jurassic Park in forever i don't she's there's a few of them that
Starting point is 00:52:51 she hasn't even seen in general we're doing the entire Jurassic Park series um i just found out over the weekend that Tina has never seen any John Wick movies so perfect time before ballerina so we're going to watch that sam and i are doing the MCU so we and and kate mulligan's coming in on Wednesday in town and uh we're going to watch sinners she hadn't seen it yet oh wow so we got a full week we got a big week what's um she's talking is she doing stand-up still what does she no she He's here with her family. She's in, she's in Jersey right now. Oh, oh. Derek, starting us off.
Starting point is 00:53:25 What's up, Derek? Some support, thank you, Derek. 37 so far, John. Maybe it's 30 off, you get you to 100 to start the week. It'll be good. Jay Anderson, did you guys see the Doomsday AI footage? AI is scary. No, what was it, John? Yeah, it's a lot of Doom.
Starting point is 00:53:40 It was all AI. It was all the pictures. The pictures in the video. It was video. And it was unsettling how believable it is. Yeah, this thing is jumping exponentially by leaps and bounds every day, this AI stuff, man. It's madness. Let me ask you a tinfoil hat.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Let me ask you a tinfoil hat question. Okay, okay. So if AI has done what it's done in a year and a half, really, a little more of a year and a half, right? Yeah, yeah. thinking about what AI could be in 100 years from now. 100. I'm saying in 100 years from now. We'll be dead.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Or? As a species. Go ahead. Or what do you think about the theory of the simulation theory? What is the simulation theory? It's essentially what the matrix was built off of. The matrix was not an original idea. It was based on the simulation theory that this is an AI.
Starting point is 00:54:37 This is a computer. What we're living in now is AI. Yeah. It's what you're saying. Yeah. And in a world, No, but when you, dude, there are top scientists like Neil deGrasse Tyson who doesn't believe in aliens and other things. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And there's way more likely that we have that we are living. He said something like 50-50. Yeah. Crazy odds at the simulation theory. I was like, I don't know. I don't. I'm not thinking what I believe, but what I don't believe. I'm just saying when you look at the scientists that actually believe this, I don't believe it.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I thought it was just like, oh, okay, yeah, people matrix size. The idea of simulation theory, look it up. It's pretty nuts. If it's true, then I'd like to have a conversation. with the people who dictate the current timeline because i'd like to have a real real strong conversation with those mother efforts in my opinion so fair enough but there's certainly something better certainly thrown in the support thank you there um okay next one after that thank you again for derrick thank you everybody who um the best who putting in those questions you got 42 or a john you're kicking
Starting point is 00:55:34 but nice go pal that was convenient delayed start today let me finish roxy's episode from last week support thank you it's convenient for you my microphone is is is laying on on the floor apparently uh brett says he he knows he thinks he knows i can fix it so i'm gonna call him after good Derek thank you Derek Derek Derek's i think there's gonna push you over to uh let's go new heights today we shall see um and i almost come glad i didn't call it today a good show with you thank you too yep all right shelf presence rip trailer or rip trailer from damon and athike looked good yeah i like i mean i i hope it who's directing is athike directing it uh no i think they got someone new yeah i think so they would have put more of enough uh oh rip it is directed by joe carnahan
Starting point is 00:56:20 right joe carnynard did mark yeah yeah i love that we interviewed joe's great yeah joe's awesome bitch boy hey oh have you seen how big ricky jervas is live do you mean as far as how many people show up to see him or do you mean as far as big um but i mean as far as him popular wise yeah people people love rick jerva yeah yeah Jay Anderson, I say every time I look at Jay's picture, I say it's Jim McQuillac. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Jay Anderson, perhaps Netflix is less controlling the major studios, which is more appealing
Starting point is 00:56:56 to creatives and directors to work with. Also, could be very true. Yeah, I don't think Sarandos gets as involved in some of these other people. Both good and bad, right? Because you see some of these directors who get to do whatever they want to do, and then the product isn't that strong, like six. Look at the Rousseau's. Yeah, the Rousseau's right, with Grayman and a couple of,
Starting point is 00:57:12 and cherry, just apple, but still, you know, yeah. Derek, coming in with some more support. Thank you, Derek. A lot of support here from Barrick today. Thank you, Derek. Derek's starting you off strong this week, John. Peter Kalenko. Was Lutheran and Cassian involved in the drone operation by the Ukrainians?
Starting point is 00:57:30 Hashtag huge brass balls. I'm talking about together. Put in politics and if you want me to just go like this. Yeah, we can't comment on that. No comment. but I know what you're trying. A little bit of this show. Go to Rokas channel.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yeah, exactly. Support from questions, Mike Stan. Yeah. I get so frustrated these. Like, I just, I get to a place where I wish I had a mallet and I could just smash it.
Starting point is 00:57:59 And then I go, no, who's going to pay for that? You need a stress ball. You need a stress ball by you. Fine. You know the thing is? Ever since I've started this channel,
Starting point is 00:58:07 I have like, like, Shmodown, I was, I'm telling you, I was the most stressed. Yeah. I hated it.
Starting point is 00:58:12 It was the worst. Not the show. I love the show. Dealing with it all. It was the worst. It was just the worst. I haven't been stressed at all doing this channel. I mean, there's some things.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Stupid. It's always technology shit that when it comes down to those little things. But it's so stupid. I mean, the middle of doing this whole reaction. It makes you feel stupid and we don't like to be stupid. Nowhere, it just falls off and it won't go back on. Like, why? Why right before the show does decide to do that?
Starting point is 00:58:41 Mike Joyce, wow. bring her back any plans to see it um if i do it might be like a reaction with tina who's who's who's gonna do horror movie but i don't yeah do you have any chance i was gonna see it when we had the screening but i couldn't make it and now i don't know if i want to put myself through it because that talk to me that messed me up man that's that film of theirs messed me up really okay never talk my choice what was the last movie you saw when you said to yourself immediately after watching anything this director makes in the future is a must watch for me Probably Batman begins with Nolan.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Because, and yeah, Nolan, I remember thinking that, like, this guy's just... I mean, obviously, for me, it was Spike Lee would do the right thing. Like, I knew immediately, I'm like, I need to watch whatever he's going to create. Yeah. That's some good... Think about it. I love you.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I love you, too, bitch boy. I am Jack's 12. Jay Cameron bought The Devils by Joe. Abercon co-writing the script announced a few hours ago it's going to be awesome i don't know that story do you know it yeah that's great um anything Cameron doing outside of avatar i'm on board with yeah which doing it out i mean directing it we don't say someone said i wish christian would talk about budgets more on the show it's the uh i would say michael bay when i saw bad boys i knew that that was a guy i wanted to watch going forward i just liked his style his aesthetic
Starting point is 01:00:13 So I would say that. Yeah, go ahead. Yes. Mike Lee answer better. Reggie Brown. Scrappy move, what WWE did to truth. Oh, dude. Did you see that?
Starting point is 01:00:25 I did. I saw that. Here's my question. I'm on- Carlito, both of them. I'm on two, I have, oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Well, I have two questions. All right, go ahead. Question one is the guy has been so loyal and he's been so, you know, great and adds so much comedy. like why not just give them a salary and use them for comedy bits and and keep him around for as long as you can, right?
Starting point is 01:00:50 He'd have done it. The other side of it is, okay, look, we're in the business. The guy's been around for a long time. We don't have any use for the comedy side of it right now. We're trying to do different things. We're trying to bring in new people. And it's not time. I lean on more of the side of question one and why not just keep him around because he's been so loyal and he's been so good.
Starting point is 01:01:12 But I see both sides of it. You're more so on the first. I'm not the only one. Like it was an explosion over social media. Like even coach got into it, tweeting about it. How many people reacted negatively? All these wrestlers over the weekend posting their favorite
Starting point is 01:01:29 art truth moments with him, working with a Miz at a beautiful tribute, Becky Lynch. You just stopped following the WWE on Twitter after that. Did you see that? Your top people are responding in this way. That's something to look at. TKO doesn't give a shit.
Starting point is 01:01:44 TKO has become an influencer brand. They are not WWW. WW is an arm of their influencer brand, but that's their approach. You say you don't need comedy. Why the hell am I having Logan Paul and his stooges doing comedy at every one of these premium live events? It's nonsense. Our truth is the best at it.
Starting point is 01:02:00 But Cole said it a few months ago. WWW is not about pro wrestling anymore, and it's clear when you're seeing these decisions. And apparently Triple H, as it was reported in one of the sites, was apparently the final okay, the final approval with letting go, truth and Cardley to which sucks.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Yeah. Orca, 447. Okay. Pixar's Ilio has an estimated cost of $300 million. Really? Why? And it's projected that a second worst opening for the studio. Yeah. That's the kind of stuff that I just, how does that happen? We have to know, was it a COVID situation? Because
Starting point is 01:02:37 Ilios are on the shelf for a while. So did they shoot? Did they do COVID? Was it an issue with that? Trying to save it? Good question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, that's a lot of money for that film that doesn't have a lot of brand recognition. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:02:48 It's no, I mean, that's, that's an error. Yeah, that is an error. I wonder if that's true. Film stock, what's up, man? How about that Stranger Things footage? Can't wait for season five later this year? Do you think the season breaks Netflix viewership records? I think it's going to do pretty damn good.
Starting point is 01:03:08 And I think, and I am, I was excited for what I was. saw that and I actually liked that they didn't give a full earlier yet. I have to say I agree with you. Yeah, they teased it enough to where they brought out some of the cast. They had enough in there a little bit of a couple teases here and there. I was excited not to see a full thing. And I don't even really necessarily know what the story is about, right? It's not going to have a little little glimpses. But I do think that all three of those, they're going to play, they play these like movies. That's why they call them one, two, three, four, and five. It's like, this is the fifth
Starting point is 01:03:39 big huge movie that they're doing, it's got a very good shot to break Netflix viewership records. Because I think even people who maybe took time off from it are going to come back and check it out. Yeah, and it's the final season. That's why they don't need to spend two minutes giving you a trailer just yet. And I think that in Squid Game season three, those two are going to buy for breaking the records for viewership on Netflix. All this information that I have no idea about this is exciting to me. And I'm fending out about it from Ewalk, who says, thoughts on Colin Travaro and Paramount
Starting point is 01:04:10 now making a film about Bob Lazard, George Knapp, and Area 51. Are we heading into the golden age of UFO movies? Do you know when that was announced, John? Can you look at that and see? I'm looking at that right now. Yeah, Travaro. I mean, so if you don't know what Bob Lazard. Do you know Bob Lazar is, John? I do not. I know the other names, but I don't know. Bob Lazar was someone who, George Knapp, who was still a reporter who has a podcast with Jeremy Corbell.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Oh, okay. George Knapp is kind of like the godfather of UFO reporters on a news. And he was, there's this whole story of how he found Bob Lazar, because George Knapp wasn't chasing UFO, he didn't believe in any of this stuff too. And he had the, and he had a dude from John Lear, from the Lear Jets and everything to came in, talked about this program and all these things that the government was working on
Starting point is 01:05:00 in a non-human intelligence and all those different things. and mentioned that there was this guy who worked at this program that would do an interview with Bob Lazar. I mean, with George Knapp. George Knapp did all the interviews of the turn of the time. Yeah, Babazar talked about the programs and everything that he worked on. Bobazar's a very kind of a polarizing figure in the community. Like there are a lot of people, like he's been on Rogan a shit ton of times where Rogan will say, the thing that is always so intriguing about him is you look at his story from the 80s until now,
Starting point is 01:05:32 nothing has ever changed. Every interview he's given, it's always been the same, nothing has ever changed. So people have always been asking when they were going to do a movie about Bob Lazar. And so it looks like Paramount is doing it? So here's what I'm reading right now. It's a, yes, Paramount is doing but Colin Travaro is doing this with maximum
Starting point is 01:05:50 effort, so Ryan Reynolds's production team. It's set in the late 1980s. The project follows the local Las Vegas TV news journalist who first broke the story of areas, 51. Thomas and William Wheeler are writing the script. So
Starting point is 01:06:06 that's... Yeah, so giving that whole program, and then they're probably going to put it in fact that they're probably going to make it seem, you know, the way that they're going to shoot this is like, do you believe it? Do you? I wonder if George Knapp is a producer on it at all. It's interesting to see because they just announced that. But that goes back
Starting point is 01:06:22 into, are we headed into the golden age of UFO movies? You have four huge UFO movies coming out. You got the documentary that's coming out, age of disclosure, which I'm going to... Dan Farah from Area 50, from Ready Player 1, which I'm very interested to get your thoughts on it as someone who doesn't follow the topic in general. It's going to be a big documentary that's coming out. It was at South By, all these different people saw it.
Starting point is 01:06:48 So that's a documentary. Then you have the movie with Steven Spielberg. Yes. I believe the working title is Disclosure, whatever it is, Emily Blunt and Wyatt Russell, which is going to be shooting in Jersey. and from how locked in Spielberg is to the topic. It's probably going to be a lot of stuff. The fact that it's called disclosure and it's going to be a little bit more about like
Starting point is 01:07:08 kind of the investigation side of it. And then you have the one with, it was Kaczynski, right? Doing that one. And he's doing it with David Grush, who was the 2003 whistleblower who in front of Congress said that we have craft and all these other things. So it is interesting that now is the time that everybody's kind of making these movies
Starting point is 01:07:27 and not treating it like, you know, science fiction. treating it like this is what could potentially be out there yeah 100% yeah people are listen i want to clarify i've always believed in UFO since i was a kid right but like the government hiding all those are the things that i'm not necessarily 100% on board with but i'm always open to watch documentaries on them and i've watched them like on the most recent episodes of unsolved mysteries have really interesting breakdowns and there's been a bunch of them on Netflix that a bunch of documents it is but this is why this is why even what you just said there this is why it for you You're a very educated person.
Starting point is 01:08:01 You pay attention to these things, too. What you just said there, there's no claims that the government is hiding it. It's that Lockheed Martin is one of the, you know, outside area who they make military weapons. They're private companies. They're the ones that everybody said. And the government is the ones trying to figure out what the hell is going on. It's not the government. There's sections of the government people involved who understand it.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I grew up in a time where that was the prevalent belief was that the government was hiding the existence of UFOs, area 50, all of that. The military. Yeah, but it's like, but now, surely that's changed, as you said, private contracts. It's just the private contractors that are involved with the government, with portions of the government, but it's, it's a lot. Just paying attention to this stuff over the last year and a half. It's crazy how much stuff is out there. Derek Johnson, support.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Thank you, Derek. Thank you, Derek so much. Carlton Rudder, London calling, what's up? Out for my 16th birthday. John, looking great with the weight loss. Thank you for episode of Cineophiles of Crimson Tide, Part 1. guys just do that one yeah we started yeah we did dropped part one over the weekend uh breaking it down film i haven't seen a long time brother and there was a lot that feels very relevant
Starting point is 01:09:08 really 20 25 i was blown away so yeah and thanks bud i'm down 30 pounds so thank you very much for you for you poor emperor support for the roca there you go support so far is it's 62 you might be able to actually hit 100 here john um corn emperor hope you and your family are well and safe in san diego What's going on at seeing you? No, it was an earthquake? No, I think, well, there was the plane crash and there was just stuff going on here in the heat. There was a fire with that had like it was, I think, 50,000 acres over there in some place that was a little bit close to it. So, yeah, it's a crazy time right now.
Starting point is 01:09:42 What's the ice raids, which I know we're not going to get into here, but that stuff's really upset. I'm talking about it as well. A deep, Mahmood. Should Alan Richson join Mission Impossible? I think that would be interesting. I like that idea. Yeah, but I like him being a part of it. Why not the lead?
Starting point is 01:09:58 If you're going to do it for, if you're going to do it for $100 million as opposed to $300 or $400 million, why not? Okay. I mean, he's got to give a shot to try it. You got to make new stars. You do? Yeah. Brooklyn, hi, my hung heroes.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Hey, I'll take it. It's hard to text on Zanz and Addies. Brooklyn's been saying some crazy shit lately and I love it. Simon section. A Michael Bay Superman? Have you guys read the beginning of the script for Michael Bay's Batman movie back in the day? Lots of explosions and slow-mo descriptions. Zach Snyder would be proud.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Christian John are cooking. Oh, my God. It makes me ill. Just ill. Derek Johnson. Lois Lane. Sex podcast. Super pro, the soft side.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Perry White, obese stereotype. Jimmy Olsen, gender solves a swimsuit model, crypto, black star. Pit bull. Lex Luthor, Mexican stereotype. John, 100.
Starting point is 01:10:54 If you do a new Michael Bay movie, That's good you've gotten. You nailed it, Derek. Next loser. That's one so far. Gen B season two is coming. Can't wait. Yeah, it's such too tragic.
Starting point is 01:11:04 What happened to that poor kid. But yeah, yeah, that's good. I like that show. Mm-hmm. You know, I still haven't seen the boys' last season of the boys. Season five of the boys? Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Still haven't seen it. More support from Derek. Thank you. Tina and you should react to bring her back in the brother's debut film. Talk to me. That's the one that Rok is talking about. last night they're putting too much butter on my popcorn um is it crazy that movie talk to me yeah
Starting point is 01:11:32 yeah like and it's a low budget horror and these guys came out of youtube and they just they just knew exactly how to nail a low budget horror man that that that shit set with me for like a week nothing has affected me horror-wise since paranormal activity really film did like those two films yeah like i think i'm like that my life derrick johnson's support thank you derrick clip champ razor You happen to see the report that the Fantastic Four Screenings, reactions the media outlets ran with was mischaracterized. Meaning what? That there was screenings and people were saying that it was not great,
Starting point is 01:12:06 but that's not what people were saying? I think it was my time to shine hello who did an apology or maybe Daniel Richtman, one of them over the weekend, didn't apologize because they trumped, they blasted out this report that people yelled mid after the Fantastic Four screening was over, but apparently it was only one person. It might have been yelling it for attention
Starting point is 01:12:23 as opposed to an honest opinion. But you can't deny that the reactions have been mixed, whatever people say, because there were other people who were there who said it was mixed. Yeah, I mean, like I said, though, I always, in the same way that I don't take any merit to the influencers going to the premieres. Everyone says how much they loved it
Starting point is 01:12:45 because they were there sitting next to the celebrities and they love the movie. Of course they do. Every premiere, everybody loves the movie. So I don't take that series. I don't take a lot of these screenings serious. I'm not saying that they're not legit. I'm not saying that maybe it is mid.
Starting point is 01:13:00 They're very well, it could be. There are test screenings to find what's wrong, right? Yeah, and look, it could be. It could be a not good movie, but I just, you know, who's watching it? Like, in a way that like when I always use an example, like a comedian, if I see a comedian with a bunch of people that I know,
Starting point is 01:13:19 don't think that that person is funny, right? Right. I'm going to be the one person laughing in that thing and it's going to feel awkward. The energy is not going to feel the same? Right. And I'm not and I'm going to go, is this person not funny? Am I not? What the hell's going on?
Starting point is 01:13:32 Then the flip side of that is. So I see a bunch of fans who think that person is funny. Yes. And there's three people over in the side don't think it's funny. Yeah. Who's right? Who's wrong? The answer is nobody.
Starting point is 01:13:42 It depends on who you, what your senses are, what your sensibility is when you see the movie. You get it. So that's why people, well, if it's not relevant what, what people say, then why do you guys do you think why I should listen to you because you might relate to the way John and I see movies. You might watch John's reactions and go, you know, most of the time when I watch John's reactions, I say, we're on the same page. So when he says it, nine out of ten times, I'm going to feel that way. And the same thing goes for me.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Now, there's other times you can go, look, we're, we're, that's the, my whole point is when a, when a dumb, stupid idiot, moron jerk off asshole face will comment on the thing go, well, this party by this guy, he liked this movie. You know, it's like, yeah, because I thought that particular movie was either fine, okay, I liked it. And you didn't. So we probably just don't line up on that movie or maybe in all the different movies. So it's all opinion-based people.
Starting point is 01:14:41 All opinion-based. So it's mind-blowing that some people get so mad about it. And it's usually like one, two, four, five, six, seven, blah, blah, whatever their name is on their handle. It's mind-blowing. just a lot of dumb people you have too much time to make stupid comments like that just dumb people bitch boy what do you do when you two i love earned servile cool i just say i steal from george carlin my favorite thing he goes um why do people say excuse me after they fart shouldn't they say look out
Starting point is 01:15:14 no no no go pal hey sorry if you already talked about it but it was away most of last week What did you think of fountain of youth with Portman and Krasinski? You know, did you see it? I haven't still said. All three of the geek buddies or two of the gig buddies and another friend of mine saw it and they were on text chain. They were just like. Didn't like a. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:34 And two of them are pretty leaning on movies. So I started it with Sadie and we started watching. It was fine for what I've literally only watched the first four minutes of it. And then she goes, she goes, do you want to go, do you want to go back and watch it last night? And I said, no. I don't want to why I was like I don't have any interest in watching it I think that's one of those things what we just talked about yeah I heard more people talking about how good it was I probably would but all I hear is that it's shit and and end doesn't mean that I wouldn't go that was fine
Starting point is 01:16:04 but I don't know if I want to watch another just a fine movie my brother texted me other day he said what's your favorite movie the year so far I said sinners and I thought thunderbolts was good I don't know like what else I've seen that has stood out like that has been like that's a great movie I thought warfare is in the comment I don't know if we saw that Yeah, yeah, yeah, guy, you got to see him. It is that. Do a reaction. People love you.
Starting point is 01:16:24 I was going to. I was going to, I just, it's again, I have to, I, it's time. Like all this week, I'm shooting a bunch of stuff and eventually I'd love to. But yeah, um, there's just been subpar shit out there right now for the most part. Go-Powl, that's what finally got me to subscribe to Apple. The fountain of youth. Interesting. Wow.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Yeah. Because they have no chemistry. Yeah. Eric Johnson. Did you make any promises to yourself when you hit 40? I'll let you know when I get there. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:56 I mean, maybe, but it's like, who knows if I'm, if I stuck to it or not, Derek? I don't even know. Probably told me, you know, I probably tell myself, we're going to start working out. And then, like, years later, I finally did it. And it's Senator McAll,
Starting point is 01:17:10 Harlehoovee, Lex Luther and Bayes Superman. Yeah, just walk into the car in slow motion. Do you remember when I shaved my head when, during the pandemic. Definitely good. Gabe Olivera, 805, Sydney, Sweeney, Bathwater, Soap, John. Isn't that the weird thing?
Starting point is 01:17:25 It's so hard. Why is she doing that, though? Because I think she, I think she marches to a completely different drum and plays through all the quadrants that she can play to. Maybe. So she doesn't care.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Or an Ranger. Just says, I just want to say, I appreciate everything you do. Thank you. Your shows make me at my day a little bit better. I really do love when people say that. Like that to me, it's like that's so, it's humbling and nice. I really appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Much love to you both and have a great day. Thank you to you. That's very, very kind of, wonderful day. Go pal. I thought it was really fun and worth it. Okay. All right. Go pal dug it.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Again, there's somebody out there that really liked it. Right. Pinwheel productions. Hey, Jen's huge fan. Thank you, Pinwheel. Did either you see bring her back and what's your favorite horror movie of all time? Favorite horror movie at all time? I mean, I think, I think conjuring is up there.
Starting point is 01:18:15 The only reason I say that, Conjuring's one you pick. I'm not traditionally the biggest horror guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Conjuring was one of those movies. I gave that one five out of five Shmows when we were doing. So it was that good. I loved that movie. I thought I don't like slasher movies.
Starting point is 01:18:32 I like the Nightmare and Elm Street, but that's not my thing, right? I like layered movies story and if you're going to creep me out while you're doing it, fine. So I would say conjuring. I would, I guess maybe the shining or yeah maybe the shining or the thing like you said like that builds up to a to moments that are pretty horrific but it's also a commentary in human beings throughout the thing yeah and and the shining is the same way this idea that you're stuck in this place and how
Starting point is 01:19:02 madness can corrupt you and and and if you believe in this nonsense you'll even turn on your family so there's something really powerful in that so yeah that's what i would say uh Nathan Drake apologies apologies if you discussed this right Thoughts on Andrew crossing $650 million for the series too much. I mean, that's not Andrew season two. That's both seasons together. Right. You would essentially, but over like, that's over $325 million per season.
Starting point is 01:19:28 As much as I love that show. Yeah, it's too much. It's too much. I love that show. I love it. I'm glad they spent it because I got to see it. But as far as like how are you going to make your money back on that? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:39 I don't understand. I don't know how they make their money back on it. It's not like a ratings juggernaut. The season two did way better than season one. in the rating. But it's not enough to justify that kind. I don't know the answer to the question. I would say probably not.
Starting point is 01:19:55 I mean, I think you have to look at it in a case-by-case basis, right? And it's like they, I think they understood where they were going with Andor. And certainly Tony Gilroy said recently, like, I started out with having Andor commit a murder and it's a strip club or a gentleman's club, whatever it was. Like I wanted to test how far Disney was willing to go with this story. And the fact that Disney was okay with it and the money they wanted, clearly somebody at Disney, Kathleen Kennedy or somebody saw that there was a possibility of prestige television here with this show. And so they spent that money.
Starting point is 01:20:27 It's the same thing with Apple spending the money on Killers of the Flower Moon. That film didn't make any money. But they wanted awards attention for it. So maybe that was the approach. I get in a vacuum that seems like a lot to spend, but you have to understand what they were going for here. so but well but also the difference that we talked about with apple is they they poop that out right of course yeah other things have to suffer yes or disney spending 650 on this right yeah that's fair jack cantrell became a youtube member what a great time to do it right now we i mean pld has been
Starting point is 01:20:57 working really hard he got he got a whole bunch of the non-edited reactions up i think we just put thor up there we're going to be putting a few more up this week got tons of them for memberships patrons we have the live streams that we do so it's a really good time to be a member right now Doug developer, Roka, explain to Christian why you despise Billy Madison. What? And you can tell Roker why he's insane. Top 10 funniest movies ever.
Starting point is 01:21:20 I can answer why. Roker was 40 years old when that movie. No, it was not. He just established that I haven't even made any promises. No, it's just not my kind of humor. But I loved Happy Gilmore. So, you know, Billy Madison is a certain distinct type of humor.
Starting point is 01:21:37 There's just some humor, like, clue. Like, these films just do not work. for me that people love so much. But I did like his other films, but Billy Madison is just too ridiculous. It's ridiculous. I love that kind of humor. Yeah, I love that. Why are you laughing at me, Swan? I love it.
Starting point is 01:21:53 He called the shit poop. It's great. It's great juvenile humor. I love it. Exactly. You're too cool. You're too cool. Derek Johnson. WWE sucks for scrapping him. He should have got a small send-off. That I agree with. Yeah. Not John Cena level, but just for his loyalty alone. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 01:22:11 with that tenful. Like they should have said like, okay, listen, we're not going to be able to keep you around for much longer, but we're going to give you a deal where you can do this and we're going to send you off this way. Maybe they're in their minding when we did that. We gave you John Cena's match. We thought it was a good way to showcase you on Saturday night's main event and then we shook hands and said goodbye. Right. But it comes off as ungrateful. Yeah, they clearly didn't know. They were firing him. or if they did and didn't do the program to make it a career, like put your career on the line,
Starting point is 01:22:48 then you could make it a whole meta thing. They blew it. If they knew they were letting him go before that whole program was seen them, they blew it. Yeah, they should have. Because he's still, because a fan still love him. Yeah, of course, 100%.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Armada, Laura Lefronk for an Arkham Heist breakout series. That'd be cool. Sure. That'd be cool. I'd like to see her just. I love what she did with Penguin, so why not? Do you know something? No.
Starting point is 01:23:12 You know, don't lie. You lie in a son of a bitch. What do you know? You ain't your saving for hot mic? Give me something. Give me something. What do you know? No, I mean, you've seen, if you read the tea leaves and you have any sort of
Starting point is 01:23:22 an analytical mind, the fact that you've got James, the rumors coming out last week that James Gunn can't seem to get any of his TV shows greenlit over at HBO. And Lauren LeFrank is out here saying, oh, yeah, we can do a spinoff of this, a spin-off of this, you know. So HBO wants their stuff. They don't want guns. I think they're, yeah, in a place of like, well, let's see what happened I think everything just as people have said I'm not breaking any new
Starting point is 01:23:46 ground here everything depends on Superman because Superman will give gun more cachet inside wb if that underperforms then I think I don't know what happens if that underperforms like drastically underperforms I don't know what happens and then what happens to matt reeves because a lot of people still think we're not going to see that Batman part two from him not it not if Superman does well no yeah bitch boy have you ever seen have you ever Your friend and been okay. No. So thank you for asking.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Derek Johnson, I feel like the time frame for COVID movies slash TV needs to be established. And asterisk put beside them. They're just too much during the time that can't be accounted for quality time and money, time for COVID movies. Yeah, it's true. I think we're aging out of them. Sure.
Starting point is 01:24:34 I think, but yes. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, a lot of articles come out that give, that flesh it out but putting aster i don't think that's going to help that much but so there's a lot of people who try to break down but not a lot of people read it they go for the click radio lines first right chris klaus hey on newborn schedule oh i understand that feel like christian in the roxy show 24-7 john i'm jealous of your hair line oh thank you pro or anti-cocaine fueled films we've had some of the best flicks ever i'm still i'm still would argue that
Starting point is 01:25:06 1989 might be the best year of movies ever. Wow. Go back and look at some of those movies. I would love to do a separate show with you where we talk about 1989 films. Because I saw those in the theaters. I opening day sometimes. Dude, I almost wrote a book.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Brad Gilmore and I were working on a book just about how 1989 was like a major year for movies. It never came to fruition, but like, Field of Dreams, Major League, Beetlejuice. That's the right thing. That's the right thing. I mean, driving Miss Daisy,
Starting point is 01:25:44 I think Harry Matt Selle is so many different movies, classics that came out in that year. It's crazy when you look at all the movies that came out in that year. Last Crusade came out that year. Future 3, I think, maybe. Batman, Part 2 came out that year. Roadhouse came out there, Uncle Buck. What came out part 2? Back to the Future.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Back to the Future, too, yes. Right. Right. Little Mermaid, which was the beginning of the new Renaissance. It's a crazy decade when you look at all the movies that came out. I mean, a crazy year. Derek Johnson, more support. You're at 71, John. Very impressed with this.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Very impressed with this. Paul Hitchcock, still asking. Everyone asked you, weird, right? We're still doing that one again. Did Box do you have a show last week? Is that what they were referring to? Did she host a show last week? Yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Me and her, we did a show on Tuesday, and I was on one. Oh. Sandy Martin. I mean, we live in crazy times. First of all, Sandy, thank you for the generous donations. Very, very kind of you. Like, never did I think that we would see a new live action Masters of Universe movie. Like, heck, Goatman is going to be in it. I love all your master of your experience.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Thank you. Look, I have my hopes up for that one only because of Travis Knight. I really do. And if they can, I think that I'm probably going to be in this place from like, when I'm watching, going, please just get the hell out of earth. Please just get the hell out of earth. please just get the hell. And once I get to attorney and actually see attorney and what those moments are going to look like, you have an opportunity to really make something special and really mix
Starting point is 01:27:13 science and magic together, which is what I hope that they do. What does it come out? Next year, John? Yeah, I think so. Next year. Yeah, that's why they're going to be finishing this year and then post-production, yeah. Yeah, I'm excited for it. So, yeah, Sandy, I want to see what's going to happen, how they're going to make it work. But, you know, it's got my interest. Yeah. Derek, as Fast and Furious dead as a franchise, I don't think he's dead as a franchise is there still one more left. I yeah I don't know if it's I wouldn't say it's dead so because last film underperform but I would say that it is on its way out if they don't make drastic changes that that's what I would say um let's see neeks 2890 hey y'all happy Monday heading to Disneyland today enjoy
Starting point is 01:27:53 neeks what rides should I ride for you guys enjoy your day fellows appreciate you both rides are like my I'm not so much the the ride person as much anymore although I do I haven't done the they used to be splash mountain but now i think it's uh it's uh princess and the frog right i always like i was like the water drop yeah what about you what about the guardians the azic tower tower tower i can't do that i don't do that can't do it my you know so we just went to this fair over the weekend by the way okay like my my little one is an absolute lunatic she went on all these things like by herself she's seven she's going on to all these things she's great and And it was great because the 13-year-old was really being a good big sister and taking her
Starting point is 01:28:39 and the poor kid got sick because she took her and here's the little one who goes, ha, give me more, give me more. And going down all these rides and it was, but I'm like, I can't do any of this crap. I'm not on these rides. Look, your wife would never allow this, but I want to produce your seven-year-old YouTube channel. Your wife would never allow me to do it, but I would have her doing it. You never pushback on me than my wife. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:28:59 I'd have her skydiving. Like your seven-year-old would do everything. Oh, 100%. She would do all. She would do all. She would do all over it. Yeah, she would do all over it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:07 And you got to do this guy. You got to be at Galaxy's Edge. You got to do Galaxy's Edge. Oh, awesome time. Perfect. That's what everybody wants to say. I said it. I'll just start screaming at the people.
Starting point is 01:29:19 How come you didn't let me in in the beginning of it? You should do it. I should. I'm trying to think if there's someone that came in, there's Sun Tzu, who's hey, guys, can you be a victim of the movie? or you're born in. For example, I'm fully aware that Raiders is the best Jones film,
Starting point is 01:29:37 but my paper. You didn't put it up. Is it up? I can't. I can't. Oh, sorry about that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:41 Go ahead. There's some that are lost. But I, is that, is that one, I don't think that one is, is that. Let me double check.
Starting point is 01:29:47 There's something that got lost and I have them, I have them up, so I'll bring it up. Okay, let's see. Next one. Monica R. Hey, seeing bring her back today.
Starting point is 01:29:56 It looks super creepy. Monica, let us know what you think. Yeah, good luck. Yeah, Yeah, it's pretty creepy. All right.
Starting point is 01:30:01 So, Mad, Sinister McAll, interview. Bay, Weissman, and Zombie at the same time. Yeah. Well, Bay, you know, I actually auditioned for Michael Bay. I would tell you that? It was a Super Bowl commercial. He was in the room. I hated him more, but I thought he did it in Casper.
Starting point is 01:30:19 And Rob Zombie probably, I know for a fact that Rob Zombie watched Brett and I in that piece that we did on Munsters. I think I wouldn't be surprised and I wouldn't blame him if he hates our guts. That's not the guy you want to piss off. Weissan, I don't know anything against Weissan. I just don't think he's a good director. Yeah. And we're going to find out with with,
Starting point is 01:30:41 I'm seeing Ballina tonight. Are we going to find that out? Oh yeah, good point. Goody's Telski's movie that just says Len Weinstein. Are you seeing that tonight? I'm going to see one. Why am I? I'm going to see it tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:30:50 He's nice. Son of a bitch. Brandon. What's up Brandon? How much money does Superman? I want to make sure. that it's that it's Tuesday and not not tonight yeah she'll probably go check that out we're gonna double check that um brandon he says how much money does superman need to make for the
Starting point is 01:31:08 dc u to continue on i feel like it makes under 600 they have to go back to the drawing board also shout out to roca being under 40 that's not true um but uh i don't think under 600 they'll have to go back to the drawing board i think again 500 and not they'll be able 500 they'll be able like hey we made 500 we're we're against the ropes we've got to really do something here 600 and up they'll be they'll be in good shape yeah i think it needs to make seven 700 to continue i think you're right you know 600 600 will be good they could maybe spin that with this economy and the other films it was up against fantastic for Jurassic world but i think 700 is where james gunn now goes like yes it's my universe i right agree yeah my screening is
Starting point is 01:31:57 tomorrow. Uh, is the arrival, a good UAP film. I've never seen it. It's probably my favorite. I love, I love that movie or not, oh wait, the arrival or the arrival from rival. The arrival is the true machine one, which is not bad. It's not bad. It's, it's okay. I remember seeing the movie and he's thinking it's not bad.
Starting point is 01:32:13 No, Arrival is my favorite. Arrival is amazing. An incredible movie. And from what people, scientists and physicists and physicists, it's probably the most accurate kind of idea of what time travel could be, you know, with consciousness and other things and all that. But yeah, I like The Arrival. I haven't seen it in years. I can't even tell you the last time I saw that movie.
Starting point is 01:32:34 God, you know who he wrote, the guy who made that movie, wrote Guy Jane, Pitch Black, yeah, Riddick. Yeah. Crazy. The arrival was better than you probably give a credit for. Busy B. And the future. Wow.
Starting point is 01:32:50 I'm telling you. It's not a bad movie. Hey, Christian Roker, a longtime viewer, first time commenter. Thank you, Biz, Bree. Thank you for both making. my work day more enjoyable. Thank you so much. Christian, have you had the chance to see AJ from the Y files on Joe Rogan, if so,
Starting point is 01:33:02 thoughts. I know that he was on there, and I know he said some things about how put off that have been making the rounds, but that's really all I've seen. I haven't seen the full interview, but I've heard it's a really solid interview. Like, I really like that channel a lot, Y Files. And I think what they do is they do some good work over there. But that's all, yeah,
Starting point is 01:33:18 I haven't had a chance to see it, but I did see that he was on there. Is Y files a play on X files and then the next letter? I mean, it may, no, it's wide. W-H-Y. But maybe, maybe so. It's explored UFO stuff or no. It's not just UFO stuff. He did the simulation theory.
Starting point is 01:33:37 He does like a whole thing and he explores it in a way, not as in a definitive like this is what we believe here. It gives you the things that have been reported on. And he does in this very kind of almost like Saturday morning show that we grew up with type of vibe. like he's got like this goldfish that talks, whatever too, is like a side character. But he does like all this different, like all the facts and all the ideas of everything. But then he gives a breakdown of what it could be. He's like, it could be this, but it actually could be this too.
Starting point is 01:34:08 And it's episode of the one. Okay. I'm just putting it up right now. But you know what you should do? You know what? Watch the type in Y files simulation theory. Okay. Watch that.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Yeah. Jay Anderson. I am entering a new career as a firefighter, good for you, and started the academy today. Roka, any advice for someone entering a paramilitary field? Keep your head down, listen, do what they want you to do. Don't be afraid to speak up if something upsets you or bothers you, but do it in a way that's respectful so that they're interactive with it. But more than anything else, man, just keep your head down and be respectful.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Because trust me, you're going to get more and learn more if you make it that approach and you'll grab onto this stuff a lot quicker. So that's what I would say. And my sister was a firefighter for years. So yeah, that's what I said. Alan Smithy, apparently Robert Altman's Popeye was the most coaked out set in film history. It does not surprise me.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Popeye like spinach and nose candy. I mean, that was the height of Robin Williams. Yeah. At that point, his cocaine thing, 1980. Yeah, right before Belushi. Right before Boulushi died. Coked out. Everyone stopped. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's why he stopped.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Yeah. Grim beer 13. What's up, Jen's just throwing some love your way, and I really appreciate that. Thank you so much, Grimbear. Matt Sinister McAll, will AI have cult followers like Final Reckoning? I already think it does. 100%. I was watching Independence Day the other day.
Starting point is 01:35:37 I hadn't seen it forever. All those people going up to the roof saying, they'll take me with you. That's essentially some of these AI people lately. They're cult-like in their... It's truly, the Independence Day thing, for sure. Okay, I'm going to get to... There's some other... I just want to make sure that in case I missed anybody's questions.
Starting point is 01:35:53 I don't have them locked in. Sun Tzu, oh, this is the one from before. Hey, guys, can you be a victim of your movie era that you're born in an example? I'm fully aware that Raiders is the best Jones film, but my favorite is Last Crusade. No, not necessarily.
Starting point is 01:36:07 I mean, well, yeah, well, I guess you can't be a victim for sure, but there are a lot of people who think that Last Crusade is the best. There's a lot of people. I'm in the example that you give. I think Raiders is the best. But there's tons of people. who like that one the best. Yeah, if you're asking me to put on one of the two,
Starting point is 01:36:25 I'll put on The Last Crusade over Raiders, even though I love Raiders, but Last Crusade with Connery, that's just. A lot of people said that. But as far as being a victim of the movie, Are You Born and I'm sure. Like I said, we did the 80s and everything too, and there's just, I think the nostalgia when you're a kid
Starting point is 01:36:39 and growing up and the feeling you get when you're a kid watching these movies and taking that in later on. I mean, even watching Jurassic Park today with my wife, like thinking about how I saw it when I was like a teenager, watching it to like now. and putting it, you still have those moments and the fuzzies, as they say. Yeah, I don't think I could objectively review 80s films because there's so much nostalgia attached to what I'm growing up.
Starting point is 01:37:02 So yeah, but you know, you can still love films for the decades. I'm sure. Jay Anderson, if Superman fails, what's WB's next move? Probably sell it. Selling. Probably sell it, yeah. Derek, Fast and Furious is definitely a Michael Bay opportunity to direct. That's true.
Starting point is 01:37:18 I don't disagree with that. if he's if he's perfect for a franchise it's that one if you're rebooting it 100% but you have to direct the 11th or 12th installment fuck that but you could um this is just a really nice super chat oh thank you bill brandon one is protecting you from the other Ethan hunt Daniel Craig Bond John Wick Jason Bourne or black dynamite all the great I'm gonna answer the same way I did when you and someone asked the day who would win in a fight John White all day long. John Wick is John Wick's killing Ethan Hunt.
Starting point is 01:37:53 John Wick's killing Bond. John Wick is killing Jason Bourne and John Wick is killing Black Dynamite. It's John Wick. You know why? Because Ethan Hunt needs a team. Bond is always connected with M and gets all this equipment from Q. Jason Bourne, I think it would be Jason Board for John Wick, but Black Domite, maybe as a dark horse. But I think it would be John Wick as well.
Starting point is 01:38:13 John Wick. John Wick. Dick. Derek Johnson. And I said this before, but I need Superman to give me Iron Man One feels. Yeah, I'm not looking for end game, but I need to feel like this is a start of something special. Agreed. I think everybody is looking for that.
Starting point is 01:38:27 I totally agree. You have to. You have to go what's next when you come up. You have to. You have to feel like what's next. Yeah. It's tough to do that, though, when you've got 25 characters in that damn thing, but we'll see. It's true.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Derek Johnson, movie conspiracy, Mogwise, our baby EWax, who made it to Earth. Ask yourself, you know, what they do you know, with truth. Maybe. Maybe so. It's so funny when I was watching the, um, the Jurassic Park, the one that kills Newman. It looks like a Gremlin. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Getting that razor can or even cream can. Valorous. Robert, I think you missed my first one. I want to know what y'all think about the Doctor Who finale and the change of the doctor being Billy Piper. So I'm going to go back. What happened? I don't know why Streamingard does this. For some reason, it misses a whole bunch of questions, but if you go into YouTube, you can pull them back up. So I'm going to, after I finish all the ones that are there now, I'm going to go through.
Starting point is 01:39:15 and look at the ones. But, John, you're a doctor who guy. I have no idea with that. What's that? Yeah. That's right. The finale was this weekend. Yeah, thank you to Michael Wol who gave me this shirt.
Starting point is 01:39:27 It's the Dark Night Returns, but it's actually Tenet. They're going to the Tartis. I thought, I'm sad because I thought Chutea Godway did a great job as the doctor. I thought this season was better than last season, and the episodes were much more cleaner, and the story was cleaner. But unfortunately, I think all the pressure and the low ratings and the storylines,
Starting point is 01:39:51 the quote unquote woke storylines affected it. And so switching to someone that people love like Billy coming back to be the doctor now and said the companion is exciting and interesting, but it does feel like a little bit of fan, desperate fan service. But we'll see. They might need it. Yeah, they might need it if they're going to keep going. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Nathan Drake, you said Sam's doing all the Nolan films. Well, we're not going to do his very first one, but we are doing a Mento because he did, didn't you do one right before. He did one. Following. following you. Yeah, it's Nolan. Yeah, follow.
Starting point is 01:40:18 We're not doing now. We're doing, we'll probably start with Memento. Yeah. Insomnia is great as well. We'll be doing, I don't know which ones we're going to be doing, but we're not doing all the Nolan films, but we're doing a lot of the Nolan films. We'll be doing prestige. We'll be doing Memento. We're doing the Dark Night movies.
Starting point is 01:40:33 We'll be doing Inception, Interstellar, for sure. But it's kind of, you know, it'll be a little bit. We're still doing an MCU, but that's after Lord of the Rings, but for sure. Go, pal. Apparently, Ken writes or producers for the wife. false he was i don't know if he still is but he was who knapsok was yeah yeah he was a little bit yeah i wasn't sure if i was allowed to say anything or not but i can't move out of uh derrick johnson thank you derr sean mckee got my tickets for august sean thank god that you're in the
Starting point is 01:41:01 chat because i'm so discombobulated right now we're doing a live show on august 9th sam and myself are doing our first live show together and we're going to be in here we also have a live stream that you guys can get I'll put the links in the description on that one. Hopefully, PLD can do that. I should have done that already, and I have a promo that I'll play for it tomorrow. But yeah, myself and Sam are doing a live show in August 9th in New York.
Starting point is 01:41:27 I hope you guys can make it. Tim said, having watched Last Reckoning, solid but not great finale, if it's the finale to her, Ethan R, Ethan's art. Here's my ranking of the Mission Impossible Ethan Hunt films. One, Fallout, two Rogue Nation, three, what's GP?
Starting point is 01:41:45 I don't know. GP4, I don't remember what it's called. Ghost Protocol. Yeah, the abbreviations are killing me, TLR, Mitched Impossible 3, Doctor's dead reckoning, dead reckoning. Reckoning 7, 1, and then 2. Yeah, I would put, I guess, is the.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was, I would put 2, 7 and 8. I, where does he put dead reckoning? Oh, he's secondary six. I would put, I'm not too far off from him. I would put dead reckoning at seven. I would put final reckoning at, um, at six. And then, yeah, MI2 is definitely the worst for me as well. But I'm, but I'm with, for the most part, I'm with you too.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Yeah, Rogue Nation is number one for me and then, uh, Fallout and GP and definitely George. Jarn. Next year is crazy with the Odyssey. Spielberg's UFO film, Project Helmerry, New Jordan Peel film, June 3 is going to be better than this year? It certainly seems like, it's funny because when I was talking about 2025,
Starting point is 01:42:58 I was saying, you know what, 2025 looks so stacked, and then it looked at 2026. It's insane. 2026 is crazy. Yeah. It feels like 2025 has been a little bit of a letdown. So far. Right?
Starting point is 01:43:09 So far. So far. But remember, we said that last time. Right, right, right. We'll see how to back half. Yeah. Yeah. Let me see. So anyway, Tim Sim. Also, as much as I want, and thank you, Tim, it's very generous. As much as I want the Mission Impossible franchise to sunset after Last Reckoning, especially as it's not as great, but good finale, we all know Paramount needs this IP to continue. Unfortunately, in my opinion, it must pivot to a new lead and go back to my ground to spy story. I agree. Probably. Okay. Let's see. Next one. After that.
Starting point is 01:43:55 Thank you, Tim. I do think, John, that that is true, though. I think that if you're going to get a non-Tom Cruise one, you've got to go, you've got to go grounded and you have to go less money, for sure. Yeah, probably. But I mean, people, as you said, people have attached Tom Cruise to this So you've got to find someone who, like, is really great to overcome that. So it's going to take that. Jay Mobile, I love sci-fi and aliens, but not sure how I'm enthusiastic, I'll be if all the upcoming UFO projects, it's very espionagey and dramatic with no sci-fi. We're all going to have sci-fi in it.
Starting point is 01:44:26 It's all the technology. I think they're just going to put more of an emphasis on the disclosure side of it. But, yeah, I mean, I'm on the opposite to you, J-Mobile. I don't want it just another fantasy science fiction aliens thing. I've seen a million of them. I wanted to actually, because if. the mainstream media is not covering what is going on in Congress and the fact the things that have been said by high level government officials and these movies will. And that's how it's going to get people going, oh, my God, some of this stuff is true.
Starting point is 01:44:53 And that to me is more intriguing than, oh, my God, here's another war of the worlds. I don't give a shit about that anymore. It's, it's, I've seen it a million times over. I want to see them actually dive into it and let people know what's what's going on behind the scenes. Joey Peders, did you hear their auctioning off a large amount of David Lynch's stuff? Apparently, his basic Mr. Coffee Machine is going for $1,200. That's crazy. $1,200.
Starting point is 01:45:20 It's crazy. This is hilarious. Brandon Summers says Roker calling Black Diamond at the Dark Horse out of all those options. It's crazy. That was all for us. That was good. Okay. It didn't say Black Horse.
Starting point is 01:45:32 The Black Sheet. Jay Anderson. Iron Man One about one character and silently started a universe, which I think contributed to its success. Every time a universe is announced before the first movie releases, it fails. Monster versus DCU. A lot of those times it's true. People want to start this new thing.
Starting point is 01:45:51 Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. Jay Mobile also comes in. More support. I've been watched in a while. And why did I just realize that to Dumb was an, it was? Atomatopoeia. Yeah, I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:46:01 I didn't know that. It was a weird. Yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah. Now, so here, there's some other ones that we missed. Okay. I'm going to say the ones that we missed here.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Okay. Robert, who asked about the thoughts of the finale, Doctor Who series. Johnny Venerable, what would you give to have Tony Gilroy adapt the Plague's novel? Oh my God, I would love it. It sounds like Lucasl wants to keep him around after Andrews season two crushed in Nielsen. I mean, yeah, the problem is I just don't think that I'm telling you, I hate sounding a broker because now all I see it in the comments is like, they've got to find someone to run it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Like it can't be feloni and got to find someone to run it that that will have confidence in that. But I would love to see him do a Plague's novel. It'd be so great. The Lil Yankee that Gen V season two trailer went totally unnoticed. Apparently, I didn't even know. I didn't even know that they had the trailer. No, I didn't even know. When did it come out yesterday?
Starting point is 01:47:02 I guess so, yeah. Yeah. I didn't even know. Julius Wyatt. Why did WW fire our truth? It makes no sense. He's a legend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Well, because it was financial. It was all financial, just like Carlito. Yeah. You know, Logan Paul ain't cheap. All his boys ain't cheap. You know, Pat McAfee ain't cheap. You see that deal he signed for ESPN? None of these people are cheap.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Right. You're spending more money. Be part of your thing. You're going to have to pay. Budget. Hank Pimp, Yee, money in the bank predictions. I got Mamie in the bank and Seth.
Starting point is 01:47:35 maybe if she wins tonight I think she's going to get a mega push any thoughts on our truth well it sucks about our truth we talked about that but as far as who's in
Starting point is 01:47:44 is carrying did Karen Cross get a qualify or no oh I don't know if he's in right now it's a great question they're punishing him they've been well yeah but they've also been pushing him
Starting point is 01:47:54 at the same time so doing what he's out there they really need him I would love to see him you do the same thing they did with uh with what's his face um who's the rock stone cold ripoff what's his name uh gilberg no no
Starting point is 01:48:12 LA night oh how dare you how dare you but I'm not going to deny I'm not going to deny that he wasn't over with the fans he was 100% they're going to do to Karen Cross the same thing they're doing him they did to him he had this major like you know push people love them people wanted to see him do well and then he's buried on the game like the U.S. title I mean, you should. Here are the people qualify. Penta, Seth Rollins, L.A. Knight, and Solisicoa, and then tonight, on Raw, I think, it will be punk versus A.J. versus El Grande Americano, Chad, Gave.
Starting point is 01:48:47 That's it. So the final slot. Penta? I don't get, I don't get the Penta thing. I don't get it. What? He's massive. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:48:56 I understand he's popular, but I don't get it. I don't get it. Okay. It's like, but. I don't have time to get into this with you. because there's so much and we're over two hours. Fine, fine. Let's see, I think last one of these.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Okay. Or last two anyway, Renetta W. Hi, fellas. My AMCA list sure comes in handy. Sinners got me again. Wow, he started again, Renna, amazing. Nine watches deep, and I'm still catching hidden gems. It keeps surprised to me.
Starting point is 01:49:24 That kind of depth, rare. What a phenomenal movie. I really love that. I really love someone that there's that movie, something you just got to keep seeing over and over again. I love that that was sinners for Renetta. That's why I've always kind of laughed at people to say, I should see a movie once and get it. And it's like, no.
Starting point is 01:49:40 Great movies are movies you can watch and revisit all the time and get new things out of them. Sean McAve said, looking forward to the Green Room 42 in August. Yeah, me too, Sean. Looking forward to meeting you, buddy. Jay Anderson, that Frankenstein trailer, though, looks great. I like that Frankenstein trailer. Wow. So good.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Really, really liked it. All right, John, that's 107. Hey, we have one more, don't we? No, we have, we have a couple more, but like that. Let's see. Let me double check. Tim Sam, also at Ballerina coming this weekend, hoping the John Wick's spin-offs go one for one after the flop of the continental streaming show. I hope so, too.
Starting point is 01:50:16 I'm pulling for it. I don't know really what to make of it yet. The Len Weiss spin side of it scares me, but the idea that he was kind of moved to the side is intriguing. We'll see. Most of the drama of the first reactions and being told. Oh, yeah, right, right. negative reactions to hold it to it. It's just been a bad rollout for this film overall.
Starting point is 01:50:37 You got to let me know. I'm curious to see you're out of the theater tonight. Deadly wants Awoken. What would you say to rebooting Star Wars episode 4 and 9 with all new actors for the characters? Just thinking about how good and or Rogue One is and what could be going from that. It'd be so hard. It's such a thankless thing to try to do. To try to replace all of them and do another version of that, I think there's just some movies in history, no matter what, that he just can't remake.
Starting point is 01:51:05 And I think those are just part of that. You'd have to recast the roles. And look, Hamill, I think you said it over the weekend on a Friday. Like, it's time to let Luke Skywalker go, he said. And so to me, I think that's opening the door to essentially tacitly saying it's okay to recast the role. You think so, though, but I don't think they'll ever do it. I, they got to do it.
Starting point is 01:51:26 There's too many stories to tell with that, that original. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But not remaking four or five or not remake no no recast not re-cast sure sure Tim Sim also with ballerina coming this while we did that one oh yeah yeah uh shah macaa are you going to film a new intro for the geek buddies now that you're without glass you get the laser surgery some yeah no i had the um cataract surgery in my left eye and they inserted a torque lens to help with my near so i can see now really close but i will be getting glasses because of computer stuff and also for distance so I just have to wait six weeks for this to heal or get approval from my doctor to go get new glasses.
Starting point is 01:52:05 But I will be getting glasses soon. Don't sweat it. Peter Kalenko, John, any movies or shows that do a good job at showcasing San Diego? That's tough. I haven't really kind of dove into that. That's a good question. I will say that the recent Novacane was shot all in San Diego. So if that's streaming, I think of Paramount Plus, watch that. That's absolutely a great example of San Diego. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Okay, let's see. question though Peter I should work on that that's good John so you got again 108 108 108 good number oh no I'm just kidding 109 oh killings will return to TNA and will be champ you think he's gonna go you think they're gonna give him a deal of TNA TNA all the way down but isn't TNA with all the backlash but isn't DNA with TNA with W&A with WEE so that it'll make sense there we go well but no maybe maybe they go hey you know what because after all the backlash they're getting for it they offer from a contract there.
Starting point is 01:53:01 Ah, maybe. I think he goes to AEW. I think Tony Con called me immediately. Yeah, just think that's all the hype and give them the title. I'm sorry. All right. Guys, thank you for being here.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Thanks for sticking with us, especially after the microphone debacle of 2025. John, real quick, where can they go to find out? YouTube.com slash John Roker says, the outlaw nation, come hang out with us,
Starting point is 01:53:24 everything got going on there. And then my YouTube, sorry, my social media handle at the Roka says, wherever you have social media. Thank you for continuing to do the show, brother. We had a fun time. We did. We did.
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