The Kristian Harloff Show - NEW ALIEN FILM coming from Ridley Scott? Will it go back to basics?

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

Alien Romulus was considered the best Alien movie since 1986 Aliens. The father of the Alien franchsie is Ridley Scott. he is currently promoting Gladiator 2. He spoke about a new Alienfilm. Shoudl Ridley try again or should they keep it fresh with new directors? Pirates news, Marvel TV and Box Office results on this live episode of the Kristian Harloff show with Kristian and John Rocha. #alien #aliens #ridleyscott #gladiator2 #marvel #mcu OUR SPONSORS:  VILLA: Try VIIA! https://bit.ly/viiakristianharloff and use code KRISTIAN! THE PERFECT JEAN: : F*%k your khakis and get The Perfect Jean 15% off with the code BIGTHING15 at http://www.theperfectjean.nyc/BIGTHING15  #theperfectjeanpod AG1: Every week of November, AG1 will be running a special Black Friday offer for a free gift with your first subscription, in addition to the Welcome Kit with Vitamin D3+K2. So make sure to check out http://www.DrinkAG1.com/BIGTHING to see what gift you can get this week!  BETTERHELP: ● Visit http://www.BetterHelp.com/BIGTHING today to get 10% off your first month.

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And what a day I'm having, and I'll explain exactly why and what happened in just a little bit. But before we get to that, we're going to be talking about Ridley Scott. He's got a lot of stuff going on with Alien, and he says he's going to do another one. And right now, the hype with Gladiator, too, is he the right guy to do it or should they stick with Fenni Alvarez? We'll discuss that. There's so much happening. So it'll be myself. It's John Roker.

It's the show. let's do it here we go all right welcome back to the christian harlough show and on monday who joins me each and every monday john roka what's going on john how you doing what's going on my man good weekend commanders whooped your giants uh that's not hard that's not hard to do you know it's the silly thing is that i actually um watch i was well i was going yeah watch but i was i was actually invited to go Oh, nice. But I just, I couldn't do it in time. So I wasn't able to make it happen.

So anyway. One of the bars? Did they invite you? No, there was, I was at the, yeah, exactly. I was at dinner with a friend. He's like, hey, I got tickets tomorrow. We just had everything planned so I couldn't go. All right. So I wanted to discuss, so this, as people saw, well, live people,

live people were going to see because we'll edit this thing out that. Sure. There was just a whole bunch of technical issues. Here's what happened this morning. So I have a roadcaster. and I have a roadcaster too, which is one of the good ones. So I walk in and I've been having this issue with it where for some reason, the Roadcaster 2,

they made this button where you have to push the thing in in order for it to turn on. And for the longest time, it was taking a second, it was like, it kept like delaying. Like, why is it taking so long? Why is it taking so long? Today said, I'm not working. So for half an hour, I'm pushing the button

and 40 minutes not working, 50 minutes, not working. I was like, damn it. So I luckily enough had the old roadcaster that I put together, but I got to change all of my settings. So clearly all this stuff and I'm looking at and now because I'd gone through these issues before, I'm like, oh, I know exactly what it is. And nothing's working. And the audience, I can't hear you, can't hear you. And I'm seeing my levels. I'm like, what's happening? And this was a stream yard setting that I had to fix the last minute. But this, this freaking roadcaster. I mean, so much so I put it for, if anybody gives you shit, I put it as an Amazon wish list, a new one, because I'm going to scrap the old one.

I'm going to get rid of it. I put it as an Amazon wishlet. People want to get a Christmas thing. They can't. If not, they can come and go, fuck myself. That's totally fine. But I put it in there, and it's in the wish list. But it was a disaster.

Now, because of that, most, some people will be happy to hear this. Others will be sad for the time being until we get a new Rochester, Big Balls is dead. Because I can't, I can't do it on this one. You said, thank God. Yeah, we're not doing that again. putting balls in my face. Let me tell you that right now. I was talking about that the other day and I was like, you swatting him away might be one of my favorite things that's ever happened on this show, dodging big balls. And now they're confiscating, you know, squirrels and chipmunks from,

from New York places. So, you know, I wanted to hear his opinion on it. And now we can't. This may be why. They might have euthanized him without you knowing. Yeah. So until we get a new roadcast, that's why I put it on. That's why I put it on. That's why I put it. in the wish list because until we get a roadcaster big balls will be uh will be gonsky uh and he will even got be gonsky for the capes and cows comic book i got to i got to get him somehow oh yeah um we have a lot to to to discuss man like they saw that report the box office obviously was big and oh before i even do that friday i'm releasing john the um we're doing my friend sam and i we did a first time watch for her for the tom hardy joelage is love warrior we have warriors great

Dude, I'm telling you, I've been, it's so funny. I've seen that movie. This is probably the fifth or sixth time I've seen it. Yeah. I was still watching it as if I'd seen it for the first time. The motions hit me for the, it was incredible. And I became obsessed with it again. That's a movie.

It just gets better and better and better every time you watch it. The soundtrack's amazing. Yeah, well, I think as, you know, as you and I get older as men, there's a lot of things in that movie that speak to us in ways that maybe, wouldn't have spoken to us when it first came out. You know, you see Tom Hardy what he's navigating and dealing with, and the military aspect of all certainly appeals to me. But here's Joel Edgerton who's trying to, you know, make more money for his house, for his wife, for his family, get further ahead, putting himself in this position to do these things. And then they have a father

who has, you know, who's dealing with his demons of alcoholism and what he gets put through. So there is so much to enjoy about this movie. As you're watching different stages of men in their lives and what they're experiencing. So yeah, it's great. Sam cried like five times. Oh, wow. And it was like, and it's a, she, she had never heard of the movie. And I won't ruin it for what she says like afterwards, but it's like

it is probably the best reaction I've done on the channel so far with both her and I together. And it's great yeah, it's, it comes out Friday. It's really a great, great movie. I've been obsessed of it, listening to the soundtrack again. I wanted to do another one. I know they talked about Gavin, Gavin O'Connor talked about doing a series. He said, you thought about a sequel, but didn't know how I would tell that story and said that they had a series they're actually working on like 2021.

Yeah. And the only thing I'd love to see, though, if they are going to tie it all to the brothers is that you should have like, you know, Brendan, Joel, Joel Edgerton's character. You should have him like call a match or something, you know? Oh, yeah. Should come in and be like, yeah, you won the tournament like 13 years ago or 14 years ago, whatever is. And they should do it. So anyway, and then there's other stuff. I'm going to see you're seeing, are you seeing gladiator two on Thursday?

Yeah, Thursday. Gladiator two. Bring it up, man. Denzel. Denzel, it's supposed to be, it's supposed to be really, really good. People are loving, loving it. I'm excited to see it, but there's a lot of press right now. And you got really Scott talking and he's talking not only about gladiard two. He's talking about alien.

Yeah. Yeah. We got him again talking about alien and thought he was kind of done with it, but doesn't look like it. Mark Cassidy says, though we have very little, go on, legendary director Ridley Scott has revealed that he is developing a new alien movie for 20th century studios. Details are pretty much non-existent right now, but the Hollywood reporter indicates this will be a complete separate project to the Alien Romulus sequel that's currently in the works. 20th century Steve Asbold recently confirmed that director Fede Alvarez is in talks

to Helmi direct sequel to Romulus, that they would continue the journey of the survivors to the previous movie, Rain Caradine, and her android brother, Andy. We're working on a sequel idea now. We haven't quite closed our deal with Fide, but we are going to, and he has an idea that we're working on. The two survivors, Rain and Andy, played by Kaylee Spani and David Johnson, were real highlights of the film. And so I always think of it like, wow, where do people want to see them go next? We know there's going to be aliens. We know there's going to be great horror set pieces, but I fell in love with both of them and I want to see what their stories. Aspell also revealed that I knew Alienverse Predator movie is likely to happen down the line.

Scott Helm, the original, and what many would consider the best alien movie before we're turning to the franchise to direct Prometheus and the follow-up Alien Covenant. Later movies do have their fans. They took, later movies do have their fans. They took the, they took the were, they took the word generally viewed. Yeah. Okay. As disappointments.

We're not sure if Scott is planning to step behind the camera for his new film, but we wouldn't rule it out. The filmmaker shows no signs of slowing down at 86 and the upcoming Gladiator, too, is being held as his best work in quite some time. Not a perfect organism, but despite an over-reliance on retreating over old ground, Alien Romulus does mark a thrilling return to form, and a surely destiny ranked as the best third. That's a review. Okay. That's it.

All right. So you hear this, and the first thing I would start with is the comments about both Kaylee and David in the roles, and I don't disagree with the producer at all, that it's, sure, you're going to get aliens, you're going to get space, you're going to get all that, but it's about, do you care about the characters enough to want? want to see them again. My answer to that is a resounding yes. I loved both of them. I'll tell you right now, I would rather see a Fedé Alvarez sequel than Ridley Scott returning to this

world. I don't, I don't, I didn't like Prometheus. I didn't like the, I didn't mind the last one to the other one after that, which I'm probably in the minority that I like that one better than Prometheus. But they're not, they're not going to be included in the top three best. Fete Alvarez is his, though. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with you. Fetty should come back to do his sequel. I don't want to see anything more from Ridley Scott in this world. I mean, he's had so many chances to try to do these movies. And he's never matched the real artistry of the original, right? And I get there's a lot of people who, you know, oh, there's so much explored in Prometheus. There's really, you know, incredible commentary about the existence and humanity. Yeah, yeah, but it's not that interesting of a movie. And these characters make some of the dumbest decisions in certain moments. They're just like, yeah, but. you're undercutting the intelligence of the film half the time it's frustrating uh and then uh the other ones covenant whatever they they just weren't that interesting you know and i do love what's his fast bender in the film as david i do like him in the movies but everything else around the movies has just

been so kind of tired forgettable look he's i don't people get upset up this and you can if you like but he's old now and i like younger voices coming in to give it new blood new life and bring more interest into the project. We've seen this numerous times or old directors revisit their stuff. I was watching a piece of Godfather part three yesterday on Pluto and I was just thinking myself, my God, you didn't capture this magic at all from the first two films. And sometimes you can't go back to the well again. And Ridley's had numerous shots at this and has not done it well. Keep it with Fetty. This is the way to go. It'll just get tired with Ridley. No offense to anybody. No, I'm with you. And look, they are keeping it with Fette.

are still giving him his sequel. Let it stay with him. That's what you're saying. And I don't necessarily disagree with you. But to play devil's advocate, I would say maybe Ridley Scott feels the same way. And he goes, look, it wasn't kind of feeling like I wasn't in that zone. I'm in right now. I just did Gladiator 2.

And he's feeling it again because he hit his stride. He knows what he. Because people, if this movie is awesome, I can't even tell you how many people I said, why are they doing Gladiator 2? Everybody cares about Gladiator 2. You heard that so many different times. always been excited to see him return to that world because there's just so much history there and what they could do. So I'm actually very excited for the film, but and then the reviews seem to be really

good. So the devil's advocate side of is what if he's like, okay, look, I didn't do those movies maybe the way I wanted to. I'm going to go back. I like what FedA did. I'm going to go back and make a smaller movie in the way that I did a 1979, you know, alien. And I'm going to try to do that again. Now, the chances of all these older guys who complain about the movies, though, they're the ones who are overspending more than anybody. Yes. Crazy. And not delivering good product. And Ridley's included, by the way.

Napoleon was terrible. Even with the extra 40 minutes, it did not help the film. A lot of people don't like House of Gucci. I liked House of Gucci for what it was, but I know a lot of people didn't like that movie. Yeah, nobody went to see the last duel, even though I think that's one of the best efforts. That's a good movie. I agree with you. I like that movie.

All the money in the world. is good but alien covenant isn't the martian is good excellence gods and kings is horrible the counselor is terrible prometheus is okay robin wasn't that good body eliza is good gangster so he is a massive hit or misdirected right and i think he's had two two shots with prometheus and covenant already to do alien so but it's ridley scott no one's going to tell him no if you want to go back but if i'm fox i'm saying ridley betty did it for like 60 70 million can you do it for 60 70 million he's like no i can do it for 200 and it's like yeah scratch your ass 260 yeah it's like no it's like i understand gladiator two all right let's take the shot with it being expensive i get it and i guess that just transitioned us

into i'm not even going to show a graphic for it but it's a mission impossible the last one has kind of ballooned up to like 400 million or something like that it's like what's the excuse COVID that's what that's excuse was last time it was COVID yeah I imagine it is COVID delays what have you but yeah I agree with you Kirsten there's no reason a mission impossible film should be 400 million dollars and look that last one clearly underperformed for any number of reasons people although I liked that movie it's certainly underperformed so you're like well why would you spend 400 and if you are I think this is the last hurrah right I mean this is okay we've

spent all the money we've made so much money you deserve it Tom a Maverick made 1.2 okay fine go but this might be the last one honestly he is showing his age and so but it's way too much dude there's no way 400 million dollars insane uh it's true and i think it's way too much and you can't talk about a move whether or not movies good if it hasn't come out yet someone said yeah someone said in the chat and say why are we talking about the budgets when we should be talking about how good the movie is we haven't seen the movie so the hell can you do that um it people get mad that we talk about budgets i don't i've seen this is people who don't understand understand the business it's people who don't people people people yes people who talk about why do you care

about the budget and it snider says it too which is crazy because snider i don't understand says that at all like people who say it in the chat they just don't understand how the business works i it's completely i understand it but like but snider he he should know that it it dilutes your your quality on on your stuff and it doesn't it doesn't up your quality it hurts your quality and it also like look at what was that movie that we just talked about oh the the freaking red one yeah red one That movie, it's like $220 million and you got, even if it's great, you got Dwayne Johnson who probably cost $20 million. Chris Evans probably cost 20. J.K. Simmons probably asked for 10.

And then all the producer feeds, you probably got $130 million movie before even yell action. Yeah, and Matt Neglia from Next Best Picture posted his reaction to it, which has gone viral. And it's pretty scathing takedown of the movie. So why did you waste all that movie? And you know, here's my, and the thing is they're lifting the embargo, the review embargo, the movie tomorrow night during the election. That should tell you how, right, how much they don't want you to be aware about terrible. We'll just put this here. They probably told The Rock months ago, this is where we're going to drop the review embargo.

And he's like, well, then I'm not picking a side in this. I'm not endorsing anybody because I need anybody to see this movie. I don't want to alienate it. 100%. So I just, the mission impossible thing is, you know, it's the last one. you can probably and you can see Tom Groves going hey I need an extra 50 million they're like no he's come on it's the last one you know it's like for everything else like hey we need another 70 70 you think's already at 330 it's the last one fine get out of here well you go jump up a building

so you know that's that's that's that's going to be the argument behind it I just don't think any movie should be that much especially in a movie that didn't perform as well as it could have right and just to hit some of the people who have it and not hit in the negative I'm just thinking about the budgets. Like, the reason we talk about it is because those budgets affect what they fund in terms of the more artistic films or the films that really kind of push the medium to the next level. Yes, visually, these directors with hundreds of million knows might be able to push the technology to the next level. What you're getting out of film, what you can create out of film, those other smaller films don't get as much of a budget. Directors, actors, producers have to work even harder to get money for their stuff from the studios because the studios are working at a loss or a deficit because they're

they've spent most so much money in these 10-pole pictures that don't bring in money. And that's the negative around budgets. That's why it matters. And some of you complain about your team's paying for athletes a certain amount of money. It's the same thing. It is. And I do think that the other thing, ironically, is I actually think that too much money actually hurts the quality of films.

I don't, I think it makes, it almost spoils, it spoils, it spoils directors, it spoils producers, or spoils directors. It certainly spoils agents. And by demanding too much for their clients and then them, in the, same way you mentioned with athletes that they yeah that an athlete will say well so and so is making x amount a year i i'm going to make five more and it hurts and it hurts the budget of the team and then they can't go out and pick and get up somebody else because they lost out of money because they spent too much money in that person and it's the same same type of stuff um but i'll tell you

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be lower even though you might think it might be higher okay is Warner Brothers is planning a Game of Thrones film yes yeah which is an interesting thing in general and I feel like they know how to spend over there when it comes to the HBO Max property is Warner Brothers pitcher has reportedly been quietly developing at least one film set in George R. Martin's epic Game and Thrones Fantasy Universe. But then George R. Martin started tweeting and they told them they're not doing it anymore. No, I did they write that. The project is said to be in very early development right now and no one is attached, no director, no writer, no cast. However, the studio is keen on getting a Westeros story into cinemas. That makes a change from when

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currently airing the penguin and next month's dune prophecy one possibility that would be a draw would be a film set after the HBO series House of the Dragon and all other TV spinoffs in the world are pre-equals I think this is a smart idea okay I think it's a smart idea I think that if you're gonna it's it's ultimately what I think what Star Wars tries to do right yeah yeah they just haven't had a movie come out since 2019 but it's but it's but it's but it's but it's But it's ultimately kind of what they do. You put some of the movies that could land in the theater. You tie that back to stuff that's happening in TV.

And I think it's a smart move for this for this world. And I think that it should come after House of the Dragon and maybe tie some stuff together. Or maybe it beforehand to do it. What's it? What's it? Yeah, yeah. They've talked about that. Yeah.

Like you do that also. I'd be interested in that. But I like the idea. I think if they, but it's one of those things too. And depending on who you get, You can get a cool actor to be in it and get some excitement behind it. But it's the same tired conversation for some of the people. It's like, don't spend too much on it.

How are you feeling about this? Do you think it should stay on television? Well, no, I like it on television. I wouldn't mind a feature film if they did it right in it and told a self-contained story because there's so much mythology and so much history with Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon. I think one of the things people enjoy the most about watching these series is being able to go and explore what actually happens with these characters in the books and compare, versus the books versus what you see on screen and learn more about the mythology, have the maps up for themselves to follow where everyone is going and where all this stuff

is happening. And that's tough to do in a movie because obviously you're stuck in the theater. You're not going to be sitting there looking stuff up on your phone while watching or pausing the film so you can look stuff up to get a little more context. So I think there's a little element of that that's lost in the viewing experience. It's so much fun with Game of Thrones. But I also look at this season two of House of the Dragon. What happened to it? Zazlov told him, hey, cut it to eight. We're going to the big battle we'll put that episode in season three because then we can add that to the budget of season three and come out ahead so that's my concern is like what are we going to get a glorified

td episode or are we going to get a real feature film right and we've seen this with downtown abbey like you can argue those films all three of those or i think is two of them there's a third one coming i thought those were good films for what they were but they were extended episodes of the show so you're just doing that in in a theatrical context and you're enjoying that but we just seen other film other tv to film something that hasn't worked at the x-file stuff other things that have made the jump and they have not really fared well so i think it all depends on what director they get what story they want to tell and i think what you said the actors like what actors are they going to attract that want to be part of this world who have been part of the game of thrones world

that'll bring that kind of um game of thrones energy you know well the the talent will be super beneficial this time around as we always mentioned for a long time it's not necessarily sort of brings the butts into the theater however i put a movie star in game of thrones yeah then you get a lot of interest like i just because i'm in a warrior kick tom hardy's going to be in game of thrones and he's going to be in there with so-and-so and she's going to be in and he's going to be and you're like okay what does that look like and it's and it's the mad king story you're like okay wait a minute what's what's that all about you know like then you can really jump up some interest for it. And you can justify some of the cost if you're going to do a hundred, $150 million movie

for it, but you should keep it at that because there's no guarantee that, because it's never been in the theater. And this goes back to our previous conversation of why it's so important to be a little conservative with it and say, all right, look, this is, we know it's Game of Thrones and we got to put, and it's going to look big and it's got to be epic and we got to spend a little money on some, because you don't need huge $20 million actors in order to do this movie. You just don't. You can spend a little bit and still do because it's Game of Thrones. You see someone on a dragon or whatever it might be.

I think it's a smart play, though, by Warner Brothers to bring it a little bit more. They have an IP on their hands that can make some money in the theater. They should utilize it. Yeah, yeah. I agree. Yeah, and certainly Zazlov said that coming in, right? When he first took over the job by WV, he said there are IPs that we're not exploring thoroughly enough that we should be making more money off of.

And that's why we get the Harry Potter series coming. this is another extension of that. So the overall idea has been to explore that. So it's not surprising that they're doing it. It's just we'll see how it works. And like, as the article points out, you know, people didn't like that final season of Game of Thrones. They liked the first season of the Dragon.

They were disappointed that the second season didn't have two more episodes. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's true. I understand that. We'll see about 2025. That series happens. Oh, yeah.

There's the one that comes out in 2025. And that's, I mean, that that is a big, if that one delivers also. And then you've got both that, the third season of House, the Dragon to anticipate. But if this one is kind of like, eh, then that's going to dilute the brand a little bit. Yep. For sure. It's so, but what they did that was smart was that, was it, the Naomi Watts one that was. Yeah, yeah.

They canceled it. And they said, it wasn't going to work. It's not quality, not going to be something. And they canceled it. Yeah. Good move on them. You know, they took a little bit of hit because they filmed, I think, the pilot. And they said, yeah.

They said, no, we can't do this. It's not quality. We have to wait. And then they bring it house to the dragon. I liked both seasons, very much so, to be honest with you. But anyway, we've got even more to talk about. But John, to let you know, you won last week, as you know, last week. Nobody could catch you.

Nobody came close, really, last week. Even the two-man teams couldn't handle it. They couldn't do it. Roxy was by herself. She did okay. Not too bad. Wednesday, I think we did the Renzi-Files interview, which we aired. but then Thursday, Mike and Steph, they couldn't do it.

And then Coy by himself couldn't do it. So you did it. Right now, you're setting the bar again. You're at 28 before we've even gotten to the question section. So you're at 28 already. Come on people. Let's go. Box office.

Now, we discuss box. Boy has like, he's on a show. He's on a network with a million subscribers. I'm surprised he couldn't get enough people. That's a shock. You do that. Hey, Greg Alba. You remember me?

Anyway, go ahead. Well, you want to be on his show? When do you have time? ask i'm not time to do that he's Latino he can ask another Latino to be in a show it wouldn't kill it you have time when you don't even time to do this you're in time to put your freaking politics show on you're still doing yeah yeah speaking of which that's coming very soon for sure yeah yeah i believe i'm just giving great shit he's like i love to bust the balls i believe i believe i believe the channel's coming the same way i believe that my daughter's going to do the dishes

tonight like she says which one viv or the oh no i'll do it tonight i i i forgot to do it i i'll clean I'll clear the table to nights. You better. You can get any shit. You know, I can get any shit for shit. When is Vivy going to be 18 so I can convince her to do shows with me on YouTube? I'm not. I love you. She's not no camera for those kids. She probably wants to do it now. She wants to be on camera now. But like I'm I won't allow it to happen. What was really? DM me, Vivy. I don't want like I what I won't say where it was. But I'll say I'm taking Maisie my my seven taking her to to Disney on ice with friends and then my wife says to Vivian she goes my oldest she goes oh you know when they go we should go to this place that they've been talking about

and Macy goes you should definitely do that and you should definitely do that and my wife goes really how come she's like because then I won't have to go it was so good The terminology that she used, I can't remember what it was. But my wife and I looked at it. She's just like, I'm not going. It's like, I don't have to go. It was hilarious. All right, let's talk box office because a lot went down, dude,

that we were wondering if it was going to. It did. So box office, venom sinks and hear bombs. The first weekend of November, once a booming time for movie ticket sales, it was more of a bust this year. year. Venom, the last dance, looks set to fall to $22 million in its second weekend. A decent drop of around 56% from its domestic debut and will retain its crown as there are no other real contenders for now. Zemeckis, new poorly reviewed, VFX heavy, Tom Hanks led here is

looking to be a bomb on impact with just $5.2 million for the weekend. Ouch, just over 10% of its production budget. It will debut in fourth. While Robot is back in second place with 6.7, while Smile 2 will be third with $6.4 million for its third weekend. Conclave closes out with five. Out of the top 10, Liam Neeson's absolution is looking to open at just $1.1 million, pretty much confirming his action film days are over. Winter brothers are reporting grosses on Clint Eastwood's juror number two, which is playing on 35 screens, did $90,000 on Friday night alone. That film has put very strong reviews, but Warner seems intent on burying it. Why are they burying it?

I don't know. I mean, it's a, it's a weird situation because I agree, because they were going to stream it, and then they gave it a theatrical release, but I think they don't know, maybe they don't feel like he's going to get over, but they had a contractual obligation

to put it out in the theater, so they're like, okay, we'll do it, but we're going to put no press around it. It's weird. And we're happy, because it's insane that a clean Eastwood movie has come out and like no one is talking. It's like one of his last ones, too.

Yeah, that's interesting. All right, well, that we'll see and maybe they get more buzz on it maybe let push it around I don't know but the other stuff that really stands out smile staying strong and this is why when you see people in the chat room I'm going to answer your questioning it why do you care so much about budgets because smile is a big success right now because it costs nothing to me make me six million dollars like oh that's pretty good another six as where you look at something like venom which costs a lot more and like 22 it only made it 56 it dropped is not going to make that much it's like that's

is the stuff that is important because if you care about that stuff and you want to, people who love smile, you're going to see a third one for sure. Now guarantee you're going to see a third one. People who love them, even if they were planning on not doing or planning to do another one, they're not going to do one now. It's not that it's a failure.

It wasn't a bomb, but it does show though that the old guard not only the Liam Neeson thing. Liam Neeson should stop making action movies 10 years ago but like, but you know if you can get paid for it and you can do it, what do you can tell him not to do it exactly it's fine it's not him that it's the idiots that are paying them to keep doing

those things but that's how i mean the old guard of the zemeckis days the you know copolid days the scracese not to anything away from them but if i'm a studio i am not greenlighting one of these guys to put a movie in the theater not one of the original it's just this seemed as this is an apple movie this is an apple movie this is a year of 100% this is an apple movie this is a movie that apple should have bought put it on there in the same look look at what george cluny and brad pitt did they got it they put it they put some of their movie they put some of that in the theater but that's not what it was intended for was instead of for streaming we might not have dug it but did you ever wind up seeing it uh wolves no i've not

seen wolves yet no okay so a lot of people did dig it i didn't necessarily like it but it did very well for the streaming platform that is where that movie should have lived and it was a this is a major you couldn't imagine a robin right and and and tom hanks re-team up after Forrest Gump, it would have happened in 2004, would have been massive. But 2024, no one cares. Yeah, I mean, it's a weird situation because look, his Pinocchio was terrible. It was not received that well. Oh, my God.

I forgot he even did that. It was terrible. Right. It was just horrific. The Witch's remake also wasn't received well. Welcome to Marwin was crap. Allied was okay for what it was. Flight was great.

I think flight is the last good film. He's done. Yeah. That was 12. years ago. And so that should let you know where he's at. And it wasn't like Zemeckis was on a run here, you know, leading into flight with Christmas Carol was okay. Bayowulf was not that good. People have I like Beowulf. You do. All right. I'm the only one. People have nightmares from Polar Express. So, you know, it's you've got a law of diminishing in terms of Zemeckis. But here I saw a lot of

pretty strong like negative reviews of that movie from critics that I thoroughly respect. And and I was not surprised to see that it didn't do. well. I'm like so hesitating going to see that because I don't want to sit through something that makes me feel supremely disappointed. Yeah. But you know, you got to eventually see it. So, but I thought Enora coming out did really well in terms of the box office for the limited screens. It was on. That's a film. I'm looking forward to seeing as well. But yeah, like you said, it was way too late for here for the reuniting it. And the concept is just one camera still and all these things happen around the camera. Right. So it's an interesting experiment, but clearly there wasn't.

enough story there there and they show the entire movie in the trailer i mean the whole movie yeah basically it's and there's the gimmick is is great but it's and it's just so hard to tell these guys who we're like wait a minute you know you know i get back to the future right i'm not going to do a movie in the theater and you're like dude that's just not what people are going to see in the movies right now and he's don't tell me here's what i think chris i think all listen i know i'm not usually on the side of the studios with some of these things, but I have to say, executives need to stop living on nostalgia and their fucking feelings from when they were kids. Like, it's a brutal business. It's a ruthless business. And it is a fucking business. And so your job as an executive to be like,

listen, it was great 30 years ago. You want to do something again? Go and do it for $10, $20 million. Go back to the beginning all over again. Show me you can still do it and create great work that we fell in love with when you weren't getting high budgets. Then you can work your way back up. old man because the time has passed a lot. So what you say it's, but there is, but there is, but look, look, you get sued for that, but I know what you're saying. I know, but look, this, you're taking the space for young directors who want to come up and show you what they can do. But that's not, I don't blame Zemeckis again in the same way that I don't

blame Zemeckis. I'm saying the executives, the executives, the executives for sure in the same way that we were just talking about Liam Neeson, right? It's like, it's like, look, this to me, I don't think you're wrong about nostalgia. It's Zemechus, right? But I also think it's a bad read by, Right. Let's not pretend that every executive is it from their 30s to the 50s. Most of some of these executives are in their 60s. Some of them still. Yeah, yeah, agree. It's Zemeckis. It's Zemachus. He can make it. It's Tom Hanks. It's Robert Wright. They can make it happen. It's like it doesn't work like that anymore. It does not work like that anymore because it is so crucial to get that audience that is scrolling on TikTok right now to want to see a movie and that ain't easy. And they ain't going to see Robin Wright and Tom Hanks.

And it goes back to what we had just said a million times over. You make that movie for $20, $30 million with, then who cares? Because then, oh, it made $5 million. Okay, not too bad. It costs like, what, $100, $150? How much did it cost? Oh, I don't know. Some ridiculous.

I think it's a very inflated budget. You can't do that. Unless you're going to put it on Apple or Netflix or something. and that's what it's for. So it's too bad. And then as far as... 50 million. It was made for 50?

Yeah. And it's made five. Five. So I would have made it... I still would have made it for only 20. I still would have made it for... That's going to be hard to do, though. What do you pay...

What are you paying Tom Hankson? Tom, you want to work with... Producer credits? I know. Wait. $50 million. Show me Tom Hanks' big budget films from the last few years.

Big, big budget. It doesn't matter. I'm telling you that I think that... That proves even more so. If that movie was only 50 million to make, those days are over. You can't, 50 million, because I understand what the executive says,

all right, 50 million dollars, you do 50 million with Robin Wright and Zemeckis, and we posted out, 50 million. I'm not going to, I'm not looking at the, I'm not doing what I normally do. I'm not going like, what are you doing? Why would you green light that? I understand the gamble.

I just think that the gamble did not pay off and it's too tough. So I think he just proves that it doesn't work. But I can't, if it's $50 million, I can't blame them for giving it a shot. Yeah, I just, I would have gone, I would have done probably the same thing. I'm sitting in that position as Zemeckis comes in with Tom Hanks and Robin Wright. I go, oh, my God, $50 million, but I got Zemeckis. I got Tom Hanks, I got Robin Wright reuniting. Can we make this happen? Can we market? Oh, it's a cool, like, kind of gimmick. Oh, my God, what do I do? What do I do? That's a tough one. If he's like $100 million, Robert we can't do that 50 million I'm like oh baby so I get it I I I get how that

happened I did 30 years later oh I understand I get it I'm 25 I'd cap that it's still I understand the dilemma I understand the dilemma I do it's so yeah it's like I what do I do you a far as company Jenny walk in your office with the director director of back to the future and you go oh man if it is a younger exact you go oh man I just told Bob Zemeck just no and he's told me if he was all he's going to make it for 50 million every other budget that they're trying to pitch him for 100 he's going to do 50 right around November the Thanksgiving you know oh it's could be a holiday thing I could hit and then you see the dailies and you're like oh fuck so yeah that that that's a tough one

that's a tough one well any studios that watch this show if you're looking for an executive that you're going to hire right now who's willing to tell these old fogies that they got to do lower budgets come and give me a call I'll gladly take a six-figure salary you would sit in office and tell these guys to work harder you would never want to do that i saw it happen you would you watch less movies than you think yeah it's true well the irony is that tom i think tom hanks is one of is is is back in an in a groove again as an actor like i really enjoyed him in the greyhound was it the greyhound one that he did the nevich one yeah no the apple one the apple and greyhound those were both apple okay beautiful day in the neighborhood was fantastic

that i thought yeah elvis maybe you could make complaints but man called auto i thought it was fantastic in that movie oh that's the one yeah yeah yeah i think tom hasn't lost a beat and it's actually becoming an even stronger actor as he gets older and a one to watch but yeah this one just didn't appeal to the older crowd who they were hoping to get into the theater yeah i think that's that's that's the trick and it just it just didn't work i think they're all going all the older crowd's gonna go see gladiator too um you know tom would have held my hand and go come on give me 50 Come on. And you would have said, yes, there's Woody. Come on. Last story here before we get into your questions.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And that is the new Pirates film. It is looking for a late 2025 start. It's going to push into 2026. Earlier this year, Jerry Bruckheimer confirmed that two different Pirates of Caribbean films are in the works. From the indication given, one will be a straight up reboot with a whole new cast and the other is a female-centric film with Margot Robbie Slated for the lead. one of the two, likely the reboot, was originally penned by Chernobyl and The Last of Us creator Craig Mason and Original Pirates scribe Ted Elliott before a rewrite by Jeff Nathanson. He also indicated it's unlikely Johnny Depp's Captain Jack Sparrow would show up in either saying it's a reboot, but if it was up to me, he'd be in it.

Now World of Real reports that an untitled film in the franchise is targeting a late 2025 production start in St. Vanson Island, no further word on casting or personal at this time. To date, there have been five films in the franchise for the original in 2003, though to Dead Men Tell No Tales in 2017. Previously, it wasn't clear if they would try and get Johnny Depp back or go full reboot. I will tell you this. And I'm not talking about any opinions on anything that happened in the stories or in the news or in the trial. We're talking about 2025, 2026.

Yeah. You got to put Johnny Depp in this movie. I mean. You got to put him in a movie. You put him, now look, there are going to be people that don't want to see him in it, and there are going to be people who protest and don't want to check it out. There's going to be a shit that want to see him back in this role and see this as a, he's back, and it will get him back on track and his fans.

This would be a big win for the studio as far as financially goes. And even Bruckheimer, who's, you know, producing the damn thing, wants to have him back in there. I think you got if you're going to do three pirates movies, you got to have them in one. And I think if they were smart about it, instead of, and I get how big of a star Margarabi is. I love Margarabi. Yeah, yeah. But if you put Margar Robbie in a Pirates movie before you put Johnny Depp in one, you're doing her no service. Yeah, you're doing her to service.

Yeah, I agree with you. Because you're putting her up against that and lining her up for the pro Johnny Depp people to go after her. Right. But if you have him kind of pass a torch a little bit with her and then give her own movie, people go, okay, Johnny endorses this. So I think it's a bad move to not have him in any of this. Nobody's going to care. He made those movies.

Yeah, yeah. And people want to get mad about that. And I totally understand. Because I think people have a right to feel, however they feel about him and the Amber Heard situation. But, you know, clearly not enough people, I don't think would have an issue with it if you were to go that route and put it back in. People are certainly forgiving. People have, you know, that's a situation where it was between him and her and none of us witnessed it. Not of us were

in the room. None of us know. So the fact that there's people on both sides of this makes, it's just a toxic situation between both of these who got to be people who got into a bad relationship. And things happened, right? And not a lot of people can verify one way or another because they didn't witness it. It's just his word against hers, right? And that's the situation there. So when you remove that out it's not like it's a how can I say it's like clear-cut case of one way or the other so the fact you've got that kind of nebulous situation I think allows you to bring Johnny back into the fold

that being said though the last Pirates film with Johnny it's not like it blew the doors off the box office so it could be also that Johnny's a little long in the tooth anyway well bringing him back and putting in this but wait a minute wait a minute though you got to remember when he was in the last movie he did was 2017 right he he's in it but yes he's in it but they're that he's got a lot of people now that support him way more than he did beforehand that's a fair point and that's and you don't have a lot of people

that don't absolutely absolutely but you do have that the people who maybe didn't even see it just want to go out and support him they want to it was you forget how big that freaking that whole thing was I mean which one the movie or the trial like because and he was and if you look at it like again separate break your opinion of what you think, whatever, too. You can't deny that most people were on his side. Yes.

Yes, it seemed like it. But then afterwards, you had other people come out who were like Lola Glaudea who spoke about their experiences with Johnny and those documents came out. So some people who had been on his side from what they had seen now had to take a second look

at the situation and where it may be necessarily on his side. So yeah, it's tough to say where the situation stands now with Johnny. and putting him in the movie. But you can understand Brockheimer wanting to. Yes, for sure. Because it's going to make them, it's everything, everything about this has been money.

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john what's going on with the channel man oh yeah my channel man head on over to youtube com slash john roca says the outlaw nation come and subscribe there so much going on we're going to put our penguin spoiler review episode up a little bit later on with me and the geek buddies breaking that one down we got hot mic later on this week the jett i way will be this week uh winston and i going to hang out do this little spill the tequila later on so there's a lot happening on the channel uh as well and uh maybe Maybe tonight or tomorrow night, there's something happening that's really big. I might be doing a live wash along there or someplace else.

So look for some more announcements coming down the road there. Just throwing that out. Something going on. All right. Yeah, the UAP hearing on November 13th. Hey. I'm so, I can't. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Are you watching the Netflix Manhattan Alien Abduction series that's on? I might be watching that this week. Have you watched this? No, you don't remember that I'm, and this is the same thing I had the conversation with the other day. The abductions and all that stuff, I don't say whether or not I believe, don't believe, and all that. For me, it's more so, which is why I feel like you and I, once you actually, if you ever looked into some of this stuff, it's the military stuff. And the stuff going on with the politicians and, like, you know, when you've got Chuck Schumer out there talking about NHI and using the term of non-human intelligence and it's not covered by the mainstream media, that's a concern, whether you believe it or not.

it's the fact that this is the Senate majority leader who's talking about this stuff with a Republican side to side with him and Mike Rounds and see you've got it there's just a lot going on there's different people that are covering this thing there's it's about it's the only bipartisan thing there are people who want the information out there so that's the stuff that's fascinating to me because the mainstream media doesn't cover it's what I normally cover there's that stuff that is interesting but it's not the things like you know that I'm that I do. There's other great channels that do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I you know, I've believed in

UFOs since I was a kid. So to me, you know, I used to rent books out of the library to read about what people saw and what they experienced Unsolved Mysteries that old school 1990s show used to cover those things as well. The new Unsolved Mysteries on Netflix has a few episodes about

UFO sightings and about Roswell updated on the Roswell stuff. So there's a lot of that stuff that I totally hear you. Yeah, and I hear you about alien abduction and the aliens or whatever. I mean, it's where you stand on that communion, that great book from Whitley Striever, like those things. I understand that completely. So, yeah, I'm in your camp that those things exist and they happen. And we need to find out if there was cover-ups here.

And more and more footage comes out, more and more, I would say testimony comes out that speaks about things that they've seen here that the government will be hiding. It's certainly a valid thing to experience or to explore rather. Well, ask me about Tom Cruise real quick. Tom Cruise. What about the top gun guy? The top gun guy? Yeah, the top gun guy.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that guy is great. All right. So we got questions. We got a lot of questions coming in. John, you're starting to ready as we start. Wow. This is always a good.

This is always a good son. You have 45 before we even begin the questions. What can you said you've always putting it, you know, putting it on making sure people have a, have a tough, tough road to climb. So people tell me all over social media that people hate me, but look, it's surprising. showing up here. So maybe they're, maybe they're lying to me. I don't know. Or maybe they like to, I think there is one in here that you're going to that I think that will prove that that might be true. So I'll read it. I'll read it anyway, just so you'll let's you. I'm not a friend of

Ewok. Why did they never make a sequel to Stargate? It was huge hit with a massive world building potential. Get Russell and Spader back for small roles alongside a rag tag team of young popular actors. I hate to sound like a broken record. I hate it. But it's, it's, it's, it's, it's right now because you know they make that movie if they were going to do a sequel for it now they'd make it for 200 million dollars and it's like of a property but a tv show for that i know they've done the tv show already but a tv show yeah the tv show would be pretty good to reboot of the tv show the way they did battle star that'd be interesting it's good question i mean because i mean the movie was made for 55 it made a hundred million dollars back in the 1990s money uh why there wasn't a sequel

is a good question there might have been i think there might have been some straight to dvd sequels but I mean you're dealing with Roland Emrick so Emmerich doesn't really do a lot of sequels for whatever his feelings are look how Independence Day 2 story although I do like that movie as a guilty pleasure I know a lot of people don't and Perry's to give me shit for love in that movie or like

in that movie but it's it's Roland's not really built to do sequels so it's it might just be that he didn't want to and didn't see the logic and they didn't want to go forward with it or there might be a rights issue it could be all kinds of things why that that did not get a sequel because you're right it should have a good movie uh EWAC

who says also Christian you should check out the excellent 1994 movie about Roswell with Martin Sheen and Kyle McLaughlin you can find it for free on YouTube I've actually heard I've heard it was pretty damn good I've never I've never seen it though but I'm curious to how you know accurate as far as the the you know the the the the the Roswell stuff and what they covered unless it was like a fictional tale I don't know Ian Davis what were the moments of the schmowdown where you really knew that you guys had some traction. What you guys were created was incredible.

Who were the key players that helped to blow it up? Well, I mean, not just because John is here. I would say John is absolutely one of the guys who helped blow it up for sure. You were the only one? I mean, I'm just the same with the top one. I'm just the same one. You definitely were the one who was able to encapsulate the exact moment.

It's nice you guys can answer questions. You needed personality and characters, and that's what I brought. Yeah, that WWE feel that I wanted. and you got it immediately, even though a lot of people didn't. You got it right away. But, I mean, hard not to say Dan Merle. Of course.

Clark Wolf, very instrumental in the beginning of the schmodeown. And it was tough for her, too, because when you had all these big personalities that were mostly kind of dudes, she came in and she kicked ass when she came in right away. And she was able to fire back. So Clark Wolf was huge. Rachel Cushing, really, really big. And I think that the moments of the Shmona, I mean, the one that always got, it was Riley, you can't discount Riley. Riley for sure. Riley for sure. Riley is an ultimate good guy.

Yeah, he set the, he set the motive of what a champion should be, right? But I think that I really would say, I think that the one that I said, oh, this is going to be, this could be huge, was when, when Roca played Merle for the title in that first match and the amount of views that it got, the hype that it got, the people that responded to it, the reaction that got when John won it, the, you know, the live events, like that's, that led up to the live events and that stuff. So I think that's, that's probably one. Yeah, I, yeah, yeah, I would say.

So, look, listen, I know I can come off egotistical about my contribution to the show because I take very pride, a lot of pride in that. But the matches themselves, that's for other people to decide if those were big moments. So if you say it's a big moment, me, Merle, then I can't do anything but say, okay, that's awesome to hear. I think the live shows really helped. but I also think the the personnel and the respect that people had for the critics who are taking part in it I mean don't forget the great Drake Matt

Achity there's so many great critics that were part of it yeah so yeah um okay so so next one Mike Joyce so Mike out with the old and with the new we need a new way forward with alien Ridley needs to hand it to the next generation of filmmakers I think you feel the same way John I hear you like um evil John Madden. Hey. I was the Muppet Swedish chef for Halloween. Why is it an offensive Swedish accent? Why is it an offensive Swedish accent different from Apu in the Simpsons? Because he's Indian? By the way, they're all, they're all, I'm not doing that. They're all, although the Simpsons are all yellow and they're not voiced by actors with jaundice or Asians.

Well, I'm going to follow up his because he's the one that comes there after you. Do you want me to read it? Do you want me to read it? Do you want me to do you? Do you want me to Well, let me answer this one, or should I answer them both? You need to answer them both. Do you want me to read it as is or should I do the... Are you sure? You don't want me to abridge it? I can abridge it to make it nice.

All right. This is not me writing it. This is evil John Madden. I know. I know. I love it when social justice warrior John... S.J.W. Yes. Twist himself up to defend it.

You should see Vogel's face on geek buddies when he tries to tie everything to social injustice. Respond. You do know Michael is gay, right? And Michael is one of the big social justice warriors of our crew of friends. So you can chop your cock off now because you were dumb. But this is the situation of it all. We've been friends Mike and I for three decades, almost three decades. Christian can attest to it. We've battled about everything.

And sometimes Mike is on the SJW side. Sometimes I'm on the SJW side. But we're always looking at whatever that stupid term means. We're always looking at those things. So he's first one to talk about the need for diversity. First want to talk about the need to to respect LGBTQ plus person. First, one of the first people to talk about respecting the idea of respecting diversity within when you cast and doing it right. So I don't know what this fool is talking about of clear limited intelligence. But let me address the Simpsons thing, which I think is a valid point to bring up.

You know they may be yellow, but they are basically subbing in for white people. That's why and that's why a lot of people see it that way. And the abu thing is because Indians have consistently been, experienced racism going into other countries for any number of reasons for the color of skin for their culture for the way they bring things in that's why it's different no one's go the swedish first of all swedish is white so let's put that on the table but no one is like going oh no the swedes are coming in for god's sakes you know and so it's a different situation you have to look at things in context that might be hard for you because it takes more intelligence but it is

possible to look at things in context and be able to assess them correctly so I couldn't imagine that was going to set you up. I think Evil John Madden got out of exactly what he was looking for, though. So Mallory, Mallory Garrett. John, since you enjoyed documentaries, did you see PBS is dropping a new one from Ken Burns about Leonardo da Vinci this month? Really excited to see it. I did.

I finished off the Hemingway one. I love the Roosevelt's one. I'm looking forward to that one. And if I can recommend a documentary here for Christian, you might be interested, too. There's a Nat Geo, and it's on Hulu now. They dropped the documentary for Endurance, which is really awesome documentary about how this team is going to find the endurance ship that Shackleton used to try to cross Antarctica

way back when in the early 1900s or late 1800s, but go and take a look at that documentary. I watch an hour of 40 minutes. It's really amazing. And they juxtapose it with the actual journals from the people that survived that trip with Shackleton. So I think it's a, I think it's a fan. fantastic new documentary I'll give it to enjoy.

All right. So this is the next one. This is Gareth Tussin. I watched The Apprentice as well as Anora at Weekend, enjoyed both seeing Heretic whilst you're live. Opinion on them on those films. It says he's not a Trump fan. So I didn't see Apprentice.

And I actually haven't seen Heretic either. Did you see that? How to see Heretic? Heretic is not coming out until next week. Might have been dropped early. Maybe dropped early somewhere. Oh, maybe it's it. I'm not sure, yeah.

But what did you, but did you wind up seeing the apprentice? I did not see The Apprentice. That's on my list here. So's Anora, but, and I did not see Heretic because I had to skip my screening because it was the same night as Agatha. Okay. All along. So I decided to stay in and watch those and react to those. So, yeah.

Okay, okay. You know what I started watching? Oh, it was the, I'll be pause of the mild ass movie. Oh, yeah. I heard it's good. I really, my wife bailed on it within 20 minutes, but I, but I, but I, I, I really like it. I'm going to finish watching it for sure, but she was like, she was probably like, duh. She just was watching it. She was like, as she was, she's just like,

yeah, it's one of those things. She thought it was like the lobster. I'm like, it's not like the lobster. She's like, these kind of big, these ideas of like just too weird, visiting yourself. And I'm like, it's fun. We're and then she just bailed on it. So, um, Mike Joyce, the apprentice movie was great. I was worried it wouldn't, it would be too biased like vice, but it wasn't. Sebastian Stan and Jeremy Strong are terrific in it. Definitely worth watching. Also, favorite movies where someone takes someone under their wing and they end up surpassing, betraying them. It's a good one.

I'm trying to think if I got to think of the ones that, I'm sure there's one that, I mean, too easy to say. I would say the godfellons. I think Michael Corleone surpassed his father in terms of the scope of the empire, not even backstab his father, but he certainly, you know, expanded the empire of the Corleone family. it did surpass his father in that way yeah i'm trying to have to have to have to look i mean does wolf of wall street who looks past who surpassed well no because i was thinking of matthew mccaneh but it doesn't doesn't turn on matthew mcconi um i don't know i have to i it's always it's questions like this that are always so great but i just i always think about the answers when the show's over

because like we're in the middle is going through them it's always like put together a list oh i should have said that you know and so i don't i don't i'd have to see a full list of it and Oh, yeah, that one for sure. Artem, Shakaraman. Do you think Marvel and Star Wars treat Disney Plus as training ground for writers and directors before graduating them to movies for the movie theater release? I think that there's a little bit of that. I think there's some of that.

I wish that Bryce Dallas Howard would get a feature film already at this point, though. I'll tell you that. We didn't really talk about skeleton crew, you and I. Oh, you want to go at it? Okay. Why? Did you love it? I loved that trailer.

Okay, so I don't think it's a matter of going at it because I think that you look like you were taking a dump while you were watching the train. People are idiots. I was watching, I was watching. I looked at the, they didn't even listen to what the hell I said these morons. Some of them's like, oh, it doesn't feel like Star Wars, so maybe it's now you realize it's for kids. I said at the end, clearly this is made for children, which could be fun to watch with my little one. It just feels like a totally separate adventure. It feels like something JJ Abrams wanted to make or something like that.

and it seems like that amblin type of, and it seems like it could be a fun kids adventure movie. It doesn't have a Star Wars tone. It doesn't mean like, well, did an old man holding on to what Star Wars should be? No, in the same way that Andor, feels like, it's made for kids. Andor was made for kids.

Obi-1 burning in the screaming, and, you know, you have that whole fight. That was made for children. It's got a children's thing to it. But people, when you don't love what they love, they turn into fucking assholes. in the same way that they do like they do when they hate like the the end all be all holier than now everything is awesome crew can stick their heads up their assholes i can't stand them i can't stand

them i'm just wait who's that the everything is awesome crew i'm just saying people people who take that of that that that thing if you don't if you don't not just people who are loving you love a thing just to love it you're not bothering anybody then who cares but if you're but if because i didn't feel watched the trailer and I said, this is a, it looks like a good show. It just doesn't feel, it doesn't have that Star Wars feel. My main point of it was, and I don't think you disagree with this. Do you think, though, as good as you might think the trailer looks, with the misfire of Acolyte, no movies, all the stuff, is this the show that they should do next to get all the fans back on board? Yeah, I think they thought they had a hit with Akelete. Right. And I thought this,

they thought, oh, this is a perfect thing to say, now that people are back in love with Star Wars will hit him with this that has that has shades of new hope with it i mean come on it's has shades of new hope some of those shots look like something in the millennium falcon you have a you have a holographic message at the end you have a Jedi in a bar saving people who are out of their depth from things in a bar i mean like it has all the thing within it so i think they thought acolyte was going to be hit and this is going to be a perfect follow-up to that to get people fully back in love of star wars and they clearly not in that position now but they can't do anything but release the the show so right So I think it goes back to the question.

So do I think there's some, do they treat it as training ground? I think that it, I don't know about training ground as much as it's like, hey, if you want to, you want to be involved in our world and help us with a couple of things. It's like, oh, we love what you did with it. We want to get more opportunities. Sure. I think absolutely that they use it for that. Yeah.

I think Steph Green should have a feature film as well. I've loved her episodes that she's directed. Luke Star Killer. Hey, Christian and John. I think Rocky would be a good one to react with Sam. Well, those are some of the movies that Sam actually has seen. She loves the Rocky movies. My wife, however, has only seen the first or second one,

but she doesn't remember any of them. So I think that I will probably watch those with her for sure. But yeah, Sam has seen those for sure. Derek Johnson, just throwing some support. Thank you, Derek. Matt Sinister McCall, on a career question, a teacher got upset with me because I wrote, I wanted to be a rapper, but I misspelled using 1P.

any embarrassing stories i can see i can see what you're doing there um any embarrassing stories in general i mean sure there's been embarrassing stories i mean like um the only thing that i would say that i um it's not necessarily something like that but what i will say is i remember my friend my old roommate um adam he he he texted me and he's like do you remember that one time we just moved to l.a and we were at the uh it's the codex structure but it was different back then, you know, where they do all the premieres and stuff. But we went there, a bunch of us. And I don't know what happened, but there was some kind of event.

We were all, my group of friends, we were there for the event. We were just there hanging out. And they all got pushed to the side by like the security and the cops and everything to the side because they had to, you guys can leave. And I got pushed with the crowd underneath this thing. And I go, I'm not part of this. I go, those are my friends right there. Like, no, no, no, you can't cross. You can't cross.

I go, but I'm not here for them. I'm like, can I just go see my friends? I'm leaving. They're like, no, you got to stay here. I'm like, I need to go. My friends are going to leave. And I'm not part of this. So like, no, you can't stay.

So I went, fuck this. And I go to, dude, I go to run to go to run to them. I had never, I didn't even take two steps before I was tackled by six people. I was on the floor within, I didn't even, I didn't even, I didn't even try. I didn't even, I thought I would get like halfway and then break free. I didn't even get two steps. I was on the floor. Luckily enough, I didn't get arrested.

And then happened to, they just said, get out of here, you idiot. And they put me with my friends. And I, it worked. But like, and I didn't get hurt. I didn't get hurt either. I was like, but it was like, it was very surreal. Yeah. So I don't know.

I don't know if you have anything. Embarrassing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I once tweeted that Star Wars shows should allow more people of color on their Star Wars shows. And I got in trouble for that. So yeah, that's embarrassing. Go ahead.

Yes. MCP. Scotty. I watched hot shots for the first time in ages last night. It was more hilarious and I remember you're right. Lloyd Bridges killed it everything. What I wouldn't give it to be 20 years younger and a woman. I love you in Wall Street.

This is that shot. It's great. God, he's so good in that. Lloyd Bridges. Don't worry, we'll tape his favorite show. He won't miss anything. It's so good. Jeff, Jeff, here is it? That's so, so good. All right. Luke T1TTV. Hi.

waiting till penguin finishes then I'm gonna binge yeah I didn't I'm I think what I'm gonna do because I wind up still haven't seen the Ag of the finale okay and I'm gonna and episode seven a penguin I'm gonna watch seven and eight together and just do reactions of them together okay yeah because I seven good seven is good it's it's kind of like you know

when you're at the beach where the the wave pulls back in before it smashes yeah seven is basically that okay it's basically that okay um all right this is the next question here and this is from Derek Johnson who says I agree about the gray Jedi you cannot have both sides of the spectrum be so extreme with their beliefs there has to be balanced middle jet balanced middle Jedi with not having love Sith all rage and hate to extreme on both sides yeah I mean it

look it's just a matter of how it is absolutely going to like what's the lore you know what I mean like what's the lore what's the what's the it's like they're all religion and they're all different things. The question is how is it portrayed and do the rules make sense? Right. Laura and I battled about this on The Last Jedi way because she is not a great Jedi person. I am and she's like, no, if you're you're a Jedi or a Jedi, if you're a set theory or it doesn't mean you can't question things or explore things, but you are this. You're in pursuit to go back to the light, whereas gray is comfortable not going to light and not going to the darkness, but sitting in the middle. And so I like the gray more as a,

a realistic approach because it allows for more possible interpretations of both sides and recognizing the hypocrisy in the Sith and the Jedi. And so you stay kind of taking the best of both that works for the situation because your camera went out. The camera went out. Sorry about that. It happens. But ultimately trying to do good. And that's the kind of way I look at it. So yeah. Well, you get your camera back working. I'll go through the end. Can you see me? No. No, you're like John Sina. Can't do it. So even if you want to, if you want to, hold on.

Can I pick it? Can I do the settings? Oh, there we go. All right. No, still not working. All right. So why are you just come in and come out again? That's fine. Oh, okay. I'll get to the next one.

Okay. So next question here. Let's see. If we have, and that last one, thank you so much for that last question. And if we, that I think who was that, that one just came in from, that was Derek Johnson. So the next question, let me see, you can see you. Yeah, if it does it again, then I'll have to. Well, the only thing that I probably have to do is what I assume is that because you just came into the room,

I probably have to put you back in real quick. So hold on everybody. Yep, that's what I thought. So give me a second. Everybody's going to see that. And then it should be two seconds here. And then John should pop up right now. There you go.

Cool. Perfect. Okay. So we go back to. this question and it is from jean burst says hey guys if you could make a great spoof movie which of these three directors would would you pick tarantino nolan or spielberg also director you choose will love it you can make a great spoof oh a spoof of their movies if you could make a great spoof movie which of these three directors would you pick

Yeah, which of these three directors would you trust to do a good spoof movie? Oh, I would say Tarantino myself. Oh, okay. I was, I thought you meant, which I kind of liked the question also is, what spoof movies of their movies would you want to say? Like all their collected spoof movies, like a Tarantina spoof movie would be interesting. Also, the director you choose will love it. I would probably, yeah, I'd probably agree.

I'd say Tarantina Spoof would probably have the best, although I think John John was going after him on Twitter also. Why are you coming after Dune for saying, you know, well, I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that. Diculous. Yeah, yeah. Simon section.

Christian, I can feel your anger. R.I.P. Quincy Jones. Oh, yeah, the great Quincy Jones passed. Also, we didn't cover that, but now we did. He was in his 90s, man, full life, full life. I mean, this guy has been around since Miles Davis and his youth. Yeah. All the whole through the color of purple, Michael Jackson.

you know people don't know he produced fresh prince of bell air right so you know it through his company so there's a lot with any composed the sanford and some tv theme song and a number of movie scores and soundtrack uh yeah legend legend uh carlton rudder london calling back from spain if you could only watch movies or tv shows for the rest of your life what would you choose and why hashtag uh well he's got pol i'm not going to do politics overall though too but you can see you can see what he has in his thing um all right so we um yeah if we look at tv and movies it i think 15 years ago there's no there's a no brainer answer and it's movies and it's movies today i don't know you get so many the way that it's built and it's so much more cinematic these

days um i probably still take movies but it's not an easy it's not an easy choice i think i'd have to agree with you you know movies have inspired me more than TV shows have so but but TV shows now or the last three decades have really gone to almost cinematic levels so yeah it's a tough choice but it still would probably go movies yeah you're almost at 70 already my friend you're at 68 starting off strong this week um jean philippe go in hello guys who's your favorite director of all time live or dead for me it's stanley kubrick the shining and 2001 the space auditsie a perfect movies in my opinion he's just incredible. Oh my favorite director of all time.

I mean, I think it's too, I mean, look, Nolan's up there for me. There's so many of his movies. Tarantino's up there for me. Spielberg's up there for me. So like there's, it's just harder to say because Spielberg has done so many movies. No one has a set amount. Tarantino has a set amount. So it's easier for them to, oh, they're, they're, they're,

resume is is more solid yeah they haven't done even a quarter of the amount of movies at spielberg's done so yeah so i take those three i don't know where you go yeah i mean kurosawa is my number one i care kurosawa i mean just because i just love all of his movies uh pretty much and the epics of which he's directed i i would say scorsese's in there too scorsese definitely is in for me and um and coppola i think for the what he did in the limited time in the 70s i think it's some of the greatest output you're ever going to see so yeah those will be my choices for now mad sinister mckel beth snider here john roca cast is thanos phygey screamed shaven bald and die him purple

have you both been to west virginia i know roca said he's from virginia virginia no i've never been to west virginia never been to charleson nothing like i have had friends from west virginia but i never been to west i don't remember i don't think so you'd remember i don't remember i don't remember shit on that I remember shit you remember right uh couch is on fire maybe uh armada ridley scott should direct the sequel to the house of Gucci house of bobby Gucci and that yeah it would all be it would all take place on a golf course that's totally low budget have you talked to that fool at all no not me he doesn't you would talk to him more than me i was talking to him during the playoffs it was going back and forth oh nice with the met's

Yeah, Betts and the Yanks and stuff too. I miss Tommy. I love Tommy. Armada, are you guys going to see juror number two? Yeah, I'll see it for sure. Sure. I'm curious about it, especially also because it got good reviews. So the Kelly Kid, who are you voting for?

As I mentioned, there's no politics on the show. You know what? And then we get to, what's the next one? This is from The Raven Effect, who stupidly says, Christian Harlow for president Oh follows it up I said John Rocha for First Lady There you go

Perfect Most gentleman bitch Yeah you wouldn't want me There Armada Any of you Do you know it's hilarious by the way My speaking to my little one Who really is just the best

And I go to her I guess he's telling her I can do anything you want And you can be whoever you want You want to be the first You know who knows but as of today, you want to be the first female president? And she goes, no. And I go, why?

She's just too much work. Smart cat. Armada. Any of you seen the new Apple TV, Billy Crystal show? No, I didn't know there was one. Also, RIP to Quincy Jones. Yeah, RIP to Quincy. Yeah, what's he doing in the TV show?

It's a serious show. Oh, it's a comedy. So, yeah, it's a drama. Good, good. Which really is good dramas. Yeah, yeah. So I'm looking forward to it. He's promoting it. Please, Billy, get rid of that hairpiece that you're wearing for God's sakes. Nobody buys it. His real one, he's a real hairpiece now. He's wearing a hairpiece. Yeah, I saw him on Graham Norton and I'm like, oh, my God, stop it. You're old. Everyone knows you're old. Stop trying to hide it. But I hear good things about the show. So I'll take a look at it. Artem Rock is in Moana, too, which comes 12 days after Red One, a specific choice to make sure everyone forgot about Red One if it sucks. No, you got to remember that Moana, two was not scheduled to come out in theaters.

It was scheduled for a Disney Plus release. It was going to be, yeah, so they were going to break up, and then they redesigned it and made it a movie. So I don't think that when he did read one and when it was lining up, they didn't even realize they were going to put it out in theater. So no, I don't think so. Jason Crosby, I got to help my boy Roka take the week. 71's a good start.

Good start. Thank you. Matt Sinister McAll, what is a fun fact about you? Wait, what's a fun fun? fact about you not we're not of i don't know how that is what is a fun fact about you were not aware of what's okay what's a fun fact that i yeah what's a fun fact about you that people don't i don't think that's what it was that's not what he said is what is a fun fact about you that we're not aware of that's what we're not aware of okay um hmm i mean i always say that everybody does

know about the dev of e thing so that's not really not aware of um trying to think i can't oh i can't wink my i can't wink my right eye so there you go how about you i can't wake my left oh so let's go with that one i can't wink my left but i can wink my right no problem yeah um now this is corin k6 everyone go vote tomorrow rocca is number one here well that that regardless or not everyone should be going to vote for sure free pancakes big balls plushy merch in the works maybe add a little button in the balls with the voice lines i got to get yeah that i mean that would be hilarious so we did that the question is how is it is it worth is it worth putting the money into people you remember half the audience loves them half the audience hates so i don't know

and then um rocud used to be a fan not a fan anymore um jason crosbie jason crosbie i went out and i saw a terrifier three saturday and to my surprise the theater was mostly full uh it's kind of wild to me. So yeah, I still haven't seen it, won't see it, but it did very well respect to that, that movie for the, you talk about budget and, and from what I, 100 million. Yeah, and what I hear, quality, quality filmmaking too is what I heard. Jesus, can you imagine. Yeah. Gabe Oliver 805, all this John Ritter talk last week made me think of an underrated film, Real Men. What do you guys have for an underrated comedic gem? So yeah, we were talking about John Ritter and I sent, because Steph had never seen Three's Company. So I sent her, um, I sent her, I sent her, I sent her

some of those clips and stuff too. An underrated comedic, John, I mean, I said it the other week and I said that Hot Shots. Hot Shots is a movie that nobody really visits anymore because it's, yeah, it's old. I'll throw another John Ritter one on. Nobody talks about Skin Deep anymore. And Skin Deep is weird. 1980s film, Blake Edwards directed. One of the best sequences with John Ritter chasing around or being chased by a guy

who caught him cheating with his wife. Yeah. And they're both wearing neon. condoms so you're watching condoms chase each other in the dark yeah armada how would you rate don rinkill don rickles among comics i mean he's in the conversation in top 10 for sure absolutely i mean he's he's like you know he's somebody that could just he just had that natural thing where he wasn't he just that's who he was he didn't have to be like there are some people that are just like that they're just just there he was a comedian because he found the profession but he would be that guy

if he was a butcher yeah you know he would be cracking jokes and doing that's that's who he was and he was hilarious so he feared he feared no one i mean he gave sonatra crap he was on johnny cars that's how he was we want to enjoy don rickles watch the deleted scene of him and deniro where he calls out denier oh it's great i've seen it the best and the other one he called out my girl julia roberts too yeah it was you see that clip that's hilarious she's so you know julia roberts lives right next door to me never uh never come by ever and she starts talking goes you don't have any lines julia let's keep let's keep that quiet no no lines so good you can silence julia you know you like that rinaldo leon what's up guys hey roca i appreciate listening to your contributions

especially the cinefiles how do you all see the content creator space in five years always changing always change and that is why I always tell people they should be changing with it it's like if you just try to do the same thing that you were doing five years ago six years ago it will pass you by you'll not to say that some of your audience and people who like you won't stick around but you got to try to do new things and you got to try to pay attention what's happening got to try to do things that you like too don't just do things right because oh well that's what everyone else is doing other things that you think can be actually be fun they want to do um but i think it is i think short form stuff is going to continue to do

more things i think there's going to be different ways to monetize those things i think i think ai is going to change things too so i think there's a lot of stuff i don't know if you have anything different with that john no you're more you're more successful at this stuff than i'm and you've been at it for longer than i'm being rode through the changes so yeah i think everything christian's saying is correct christian tries all the time to get me to understand the trends and do all this kind of stuff and I'm not always on top of it as much as I can be. But there is there is something changing inside of me that wants to maybe just strip it all down and just go back to me like you did into a degree. And we'll see if that's what ends up being the motivating factor to start

paying attention to more and more trends and doing things and taking more chances with the channel than I have in the past. So yeah. Shea Markell. Hey, fellas, happy Monday challenge for you. Name another showrunner that has had the run. Taylor Sheridan is on with Paramount. Dude's on fire. I mean, you can't. And he's got, he just comes out with a new show every other week that does well. So it's like, I think maybe Aaron Spelling or Norman Lear are the only two come. Not in the volume that he's had, man. And the volume with the about him like, this guy's doing it like, he's got, he's like two or three shows on the air at the same time.

Those guys were doing it like one show and then another show and then another show like, you know, within like years. But this guy's got like four or five shows on the air right now. Yeah. We started watching Lioness for the first time. A couple of... Oh, yeah, you said you were going to do that. Damn, good show. Okay.

Mike Pelly, Christian, did you watch the new Manhattan alien abduction not, not, uh, doc series on Netflix? Very interesting. So many witnesses. I mean, maybe I should check it out. Both you and John said I should check it out. So it's on, that's on Netflix. Just to hear New York people go, the fucker, you flew in his guy.

I saw him flying a walk in the sky. Prizzy. What's stopping Lucas film from getting a VFX intern to go back and polish up their dodgy VFX on Disney Plus? the poorly done cg luke from mando season two they could get it done in like two weeks they wanted to because it's the same it's the same thing man it's the same thing of like the well we already did it we know what we're doing you know we would admit defeat if we went back and did it and it's like it you know it's the same thing it's just a frustrating nonsense it's so i feel so bad because my

my brother-in-law texted me yesterday about i don't know some star war stuff and it was about luke and you know about where he was the Jedi and I just I just remember like 10 years ago I get that text I'm like oh it's because of this I was just I don't care I just don't care yeah I just don't care and I'll answer him back but I haven't answered I was like just who cares uh bam 86 under oath in court Depp said he would never work with Disney ever again even for 300 million it's not up to the studio yeah we'll see he didn't have a check for 300 million dollars when he said You can say anything you want. You can say whatever you want.

Yeah, right. Because it doesn't, because you're under oath. You're under oath. They're not saying, okay, so you're under oath. You're never going to work with them again? Okay. I mean you never can now. That's not how it works.

I can throw them in jail. Yeah, right. You said you're not going to. You're under oath. Shea Markell, I don't want to watch a pirates movie without death, but I believe they can pull it off without them. They'd have to do like you said, oh, he lost his camera again. What are you doing with that camera?

What's happening? Oh, I'm sorry, man. It's probably just the power here. Hold on. I'll switch to my other one. Disaster. Sorry. You might have to go in and go out again.

That's what she said. So they'd have to do like you say and contain the budget. Yes, they're going to have to do that for sure. Yeah. Let me know when you come back in. Unless you switched. Yeah, I will. Yeah.

Okay. Let's get to the next one from the great Tim Sim. Well, I'll wait until Roka comes back in. We'll ask that one because it's to Rokka. Prisie, more excited for the new Karate Kid movies. that I am for the Cobra Kai finale. CK.

Cobra Kai got way too crazy. Suspension Displea if only gets you so far. I understand that. I think that I, I think that they gradually kind of kept going that way. So the fact that they kept going that way and it kept getting crazier and crazier, I was okay with it and I understand.

But I do understand that. John's back. Let me put him back here. And then we can do it. John, basically the person said that they were more excited for the new karate kid movie than they, were the

Coburkeye because Coburkeye, the suspension of disbelief at this point has just been too tough for them. Yeah, I said I understand it, but they but they've gradually been getting there. Isn't it the same people that are going to be doing the the carotid movie? No, they're not Hurwitz or any of the guys? No, those guys, they're not doing it. Machio's in it, but they're not, they're not part

of it. Well, I tell you, judging from that poster, I'm not incredibly excited about that Cardi Kid movie. No, it's a bad. That was not the poster. Okay. The great Sim, quick question to Roka. Washington commanders, Jaden Daniels, is a strong favor for NFL offensive rookie player of the year.

Hope everyone has a great week ahead. Please. He's so good that they're starting to have conversations about him being MVP of league with Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. So that should tell you, yes, absolutely. Shea Markell says, John, you're one of my favorites since movie talk. No, thank you. Yes, boy.

I hope during the Carpenter movie, there's a post-fight interview and the fighter says, I would like to thank Jesus. No, really, thank you. Jesus Christ. Is that movie out yet? Not yet. I think it's coming out next week. But, dude, if that comes out on digital, I think I might do a reaction.

I think you have to. I think you have to. The Cali Kid, what's your favorite political movie? I love JFK. I love JFK also. It's a complete fantasy. But I mean, he makes up a lot of stuff. But like, I mean, and it's kind of a dangerous stuff, some of the stuff that he makes up, too,

because it's like, I saw that as a kid. I believe all of it when I saw. Oh, yeah, yeah. So, but I would probably put JFK, though. I think it's a great, it's a pretty good political movie. Yeah, I think JFK is fantastic. I think I'd have marched, the clue one too. Ryan, Ryan Gosling?

Yeah. Yeah, it's a good movie. That is a good political. Yeah, it's a really good movie. Yeah. Does the American president count? I think that counts. Yeah, it's politics.

He's battling. Yeah. Richard Dreyfus, who's the Republican. Yeah, so if this, I mean, Dave's another one. Dave is great. Yes, go pie. James Cameron is one that always comes to mind in terms of money ruining the movies,

though the box office doesn't agree. I haven't been a fan of his outside of Terminator 1, aliens, and true lies. I get the sentiment. I understand it, but I do think that he puts in a lot with the, I think he puts, the money that he spends, you see where it goes, and he gets good performances out of it.

He doesn't over stack it with, he's with talent. He's, I mean, he puts talent in there. I mean, he doesn't with high-priced talent. I should say. But he really, he uses his money well. But I, but I understand the sentiment. Yeah. Yeah. GoPy says T2 has since grown on me, but I saw one and two back to back when I was 13. I thought it was a blatant rip-off of the first one. Well, I like the first one better also because I, I think the second one's great. I think the second one was a great science fiction movie and a great kind of action movie. But the first one is a science fiction horror film. And it just,

it was terrifying as a kid and I absolutely love it's it's you talk about Terminator right yeah because you're the reverse on alien like you you like alien but you think aliens is better than alien I don't think it's better I just enjoy it more okay fair enough but enjoy it fair enough yeah I'm with you I like the first Terminator more than the second one only because I think Edward for a long is so irritating in that movie I don't care about him in the film and that drives me nuts when I'm watching it and that's why when what happened terminator dark fate happened I was like cool I love this idea I was I was I was I was was so on board with that idea when it happened in the opening i was like yes good thank god let's move

on you know yeah understood uh all right john you're 78 approaching 80 getting closer um derrick johnson says okay for real we need some merch for john that says chop your cock off has to be in the top five of roca insults put that on a mug or a shirt go pie i only made it through about half of the first avatar before i got bored oh man and the half animated style is an all uncanny valley for me. Again, I understand that. I don't feel that way, but I understand the argument for sure. Sure.

Okay. Next question here. We are going to get to Joey Pedrus, who says, tips for being a better YouTuber. I think it kind of goes back to what we were just talking about. I think it's, well, consistency is the number one rule. Consistency.

That's the number one rule. Yeah, you got to. make sure because your audience is going to want to know when you're going to be on when you're going to do what what's going to happen when you when to look forward to stuff because there's so many other things out there right paying attention to the quality stuff and things and when you have the means to always try to up it right like always try to do like up your quality up your you know give you want to put respect into it and the third is what we said before pivot understand like you know you can do things you know talk about the things you want to but look at the changes and when

the changes come you got to follow them yeah asked me, people used to ask me that about podcasts. And I always say the same thing with YouTube. Be yourself, but like Christian said, find the things you like to do. Right. And be yourself. Because people will gravitate to the energy of authenticity and joy. And if you like doing what you're talking about, you like talking about, and you've got a personality, people will pay attention. Get a good mic. There are great mics for 100 bucks that will help you out. Get a good camera. There's cameras from a 200 you can get that are really good to start off with. And then eventually work your way up as as Christian said to improving the quality of

yeah and investment like this is like the age old thing it's like you got to spend money to make money right and it's like look I can't even tell you there's so many times I've been like oh make these choices and I'm like sweating and you know and still it's still still recently it's like I mean then you know then you have things that happen like today my freaking roadcaster craps out and I'm like oh that's another expense that I got to figure out so it's like there's always something but you just got to you want to do it just got to engage and speaking of engaged nerds engaged gifted three memberships to three memberships which is very nice to we might even done more than that but he he did

that last week he did a whole bunch of uh memberships for people nice which was very very nice thank you so much three new ones there gifted members and then we have a whole bunch of new members thank you so much shea markell personally i'd love to see an et spoof movie i just think is too far away from that far removed from et you know the 82 it's like 40-some odd years to do it so i don't know um and then prizzy everyone should check out hysteria great show you know hysteria i don't know i think it's on peacock but i'm not sure i don't know that show uh shea markell you know these movies you love years ago but really don't hold up equilibrium is one of those for me. The gunfew is terrible now, but I used to love it. I haven't seen it

since. I did love it when it came out. So I take your word for it. I did not. So it's stayed where it's supposed to stay for me. Yeah, I understand. Derek says, Roka, you just did the most Virginia thing ever. You made a clear distinction between Virginia and West Virginia. We make sure to let people know we're not West Virginia. Yeah, West Virginia burning couches, that's not us. That's, that's, Virginia's different. was for sure. Prissy says, well, back to Cobra-Kai. I just think all the crease

scenes are utterly ridiculous. It takes me out of the show. I love Kobokai for years, but I don't know, it's feeling like Power Rangers in a bad way. Again, I get it. It's like, I think I battled with it at first, because the first season is definitely the one that's based in the most realism. Yes,

100%. The second season when they're training in the forest and they're bouncing off trees and they've learned, you know, they're like ninjas already after a year in karate, I said to myself, all right, you've got to decide. Like, this is where the show is going to go. You got to look at it like a superhero show,

or you got to look at it like, oh, this is not the show you want to stop watching. And I chose the, it can get more ridiculous. There's more things that happen. The fact that karate is almost like football in the valley and the way the people, nobody gives their shit about these things in the valley for real life. But the fact that they didn't, and they know what they're doing. So I enjoy it that way because I've accepted it that way. but I understand how someone could feel the way that Prizzy does.

All these kids would be in jail right now for salt and battery and they'd all be in debt. Right, right. They'd all be in debt for the hospital visits and whatever. So you've got to, yeah, you've got to throw all that out as you're watching the show. Because honestly, some of the leads don't do karate really well. It is tough to watch them do. And no offense to Mary Mouser or a Peyton List or the other. Peyton List can throw.

You don't think Peyton List can throw? It's kind of, you can, it's, how can I say this? The choreography is so obvious that times that it looks like a bad wrestling match sometimes, pro wrestling match sometimes. So that's my issue with the show overall. But I like the performances. I like the actors and, you know, Jolo has been fantastic on the show. So that's what keeps me going.

Zapka and Machio, those are keeping going. Gentlemen, this is from dancing dogs. Okay. Gentlemen, if D.C. really goes with an older Batman, hopefully Heartnet, how tough will it be to cast Robin? Super tough casting Damien, yes? No, because if you cast, you don't have to cast somebody that is a super well-known person.

You can just find some, there's tons of actors out there. Just find someone that nails the audition. Yeah, I mean, my thing is that we might be looking at our Robin and Renzi-Files. That's just my own personal opinion. I don't know if that will come true or not from the penguin, but that's kind of what we're looking at. Lost the parents looking for guidance and has tasted the wrong side of the law may go, with Batman once he shows up.

So I don't know, just throwing it out there. I want him as Miles. I definitely want him as Miles. I like that idea too. Matt Sinister McCall. Glad Daniel Day Lewis isn't in terror fire. He'd kill. That's good.

That's good. Derek Johnson throwing the support as he always does. Thank you so much. I put on my clown makeup now. That's right. Ian Davis. Roca, you mentioned you served in the military as a U.S. Navy veteran myself seven years.

It would be great to hear more about your service. happy early vets day to you brother thanks to me to you man yeah eight years in the army eight years in the arm but I never saw a theater of war so I you know I was I kind of you know I'm Christian I Bristol at those things like you know I'm not in any care veteran who saw action or anything like that I served where I served I was in military intelligence I worked with the NSA there for meade and Maryland I had top secret clearance it was a great eight years but people who've seen war those are the people I respect and those are people I think for their

service even more so than the ones I already thank for serving at all. Yeah. Jason M. being one of those people for sure. Yes, Jason, I'm in 100%. He still had one of the best burns in Schmodeon history with Snyder. Remember that? What he said to?

He was being actually someone who's actually served in war. And Snyder just went like this. He put his hands up. He knew he knew he just got slapped in the face. It was really, really good. Okay, let's see. So this is from Dancing Dog 60. You guys ever seen the Michael Kane film?

blame it on Rio where Kane's character falls in love with his best friend's 17-year-old daughter 1984 no I didn't see have you ever seen that yeah I think it's Demi Moore oh is it really yeah you can't you can't get away with that now today yeah that was uh yeah I'll tell you here and I don't ever talk about shit like this but I will say you ever see that video that was going around with Demi Moore making out with the kid no I haven't seen this is this from a film or real life no it was like some kid at like I haven't seen making out but like but but like some birthday party or something this kid's at a at a birthday party and the kid can't be more than 12 or 13 years old maybe maybe maybe maybe look at it and she kisses him dude

and it ain't like it ain't like oh it's sweet like you know because sometimes people give a sweet little kiss in the mouth it's like yeah and look i'm not gonna lie if i was 14 years old at the time i'd be like hey demme more coming in but it's like it was a little weird oh this is from way back when did you see it like oh no i'm looking at it like look at that look at that look at that clip damn that that kid ain't that you know what i'm saying like that you've never seen i'm surprised you've never seen that that's a make out look at the that they pan to the mom that's not that's not that's not good who is that jeffsuckerberg who is that's not good uh devon lot john ritter two words stay tuned great movie oh yeah great movie love that movie

prismic speaking of jfk 112263 is a great show 100% love that show flew under the radar it sure did just rewatch it i recommend the 65s are so good you've seen that show right joe which one 1122 63 with james franco no i haven't seen that dude can't be one right yeah yeah awesome it's awesome really really good gotta watch it yeah uh top dory i'm not excited about the prospect of scott making another alien as the saying goes when riddley scott makes a movie the gods flip a coin. Yeah, I understand. Much. Javis, hey guys, Wicked is giving the same vibes as Wanka.

And that movie was a huge letdown for me. Can you see similarities or is it just me? Thanks. Are you just, are you watching that clip? I can't stop watching the clip. It's not good. This is the old, I don't know how you know how to validate. There's no way to validate that clip.

It's not good. I wish I was the kid. I wish I was the kid. But that's the first, that's the first thing, think of like because we're dudes for me right dudes but like in the long run dude it's not good for a for a kid that age to go to go through that i don't care who he is you know it's just not um i was 15 when i lost my virginity to a 22 year old okay i i didn't have i have a problem with it so you know you have a problem with it and i still don't right anyway it's yeah it's i hear you

though i hear you can't damage you it's a damage and i maybe it's just the it's the dad's the in me or I don't I don't know I just I it's it's illegal it's illegal it's illegal it's illegal it was legal that you you you did it with and it was illegal I know it was but I lied to her that I was 18 okay so yeah it's still illegal yeah top door rig I'm not excited oh you did that one okay Javis hey guy we did that so wicked wicked and and uh and uh wanka yeah wanka to me is a movie that I will say when people ask me the question I hope but remember this is that when they say what's a movie that you didn't really love the first time and then you got better and better wanka is one of those movies that i got better and better for me i really and i

think maybe because i watched it with my kids so i don't know i feel i have to see because i don't necessarily i don't dislike arianda grande as an actor i just don't have enough to go by yet right and cynthia erivo i think is a very good actress i don't love the way she's been handling ourselves in the media recently, but that's, but that goes back to what we were talking about with Johnny Depp, no different situations, completely different situations, but I'm talking about when it comes to, I'm going, but, but it's relevant. It's relevant in the fact what I mean, though, is that someone what they're doing outside of when they're filming in the performance itself. I'm going to go and I'm not going to go in and go, hmm, I didn't like her tweets, so I'm not

going to watch her performance. That's not fair. I'm, I'm going to go watch it. And I think that if she delivers in the way that I think she could. And then if Ariana winds up being like, wow, she was really fantastic and it's as good as everyone else says it is, then it might be pretty damn good. Yeah, I mean, I have not seen one negative, other than Drew Taylor, I haven't seen one review that kind of mentioned some negative energy around it. He said it was over long and just a little too kind of fell apart near the end. I haven't seen it obviously, but yeah, I mean, if it's great, great.

I'll be happy for it, but I'm kind of nervous that it won't be. I'm trying to think. I think that we might. I thought Wonka was great, so I don't know why that person did that. I think we might have, I think we might have done it, John. I think you're going to end. I'm looking. I think you might have ended the day at 81, which is pretty good. It's pretty damn good. It's a good start. It's a good start for the week. Oh, yeah. Well, I was wrong about nerds engage. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. gift to seven memberships to everybody I'm looking I'm just double checking I'm going through

all the stars and make the starred ones and making sure that I got everybody so I don't want to miss anybody stuff but I didn't see I didn't see anybody saying I missed any so it looks like looks like we got them all that's that's it okay so John you got a lot going on they can find you they can find your channel just are you launching a new channel yet or you don't know you there's there's there's let's just say this I've been working with this young kid we've been developing a show that i'm going to do called speak up with john roga thanks to christian harlough for the title i'll fully admit that uh it i think i might launch it on my channel to start off and then we're going to don't do that no don't do that launch you build up the taste

no you get 87 fucking shows on that channel do do your own channel do your own pull up pollics channel i'm telling you telling you don't do it don't we get it's squared away by today it'll be in go up tonight or tomorrow morning, but I will be covering the election. I'll be coming the fallout, all that stuff. You guys don't know. I'm into politics pretty hardcore, so look for that. We do have one more. Yeah, go ahead.

We have one more here, and this is Kai, who says, Tom Cruise. The top gun guy? The top gun guy? Yeah, the top gun guy. He paid all crew and staff during strikes, and that's why the budget is so high for MIA. Jury number two was mid, FYI, I guess someone who saw it already. yeah um that is also very true marco marco says this and he's right

the algorithm is going to mess with your channel if you put you start putting all that politics stuff on there it's like you're your movie channel your politics channel what are you i mean come on rogue you got too much going on your sports your movies your politics that's i'm saying things are going to have to take it things are going to have to get cut off in 2025 we got to be lean and mean in 20 yeah understood all right well thank you to john thank you to you guys look we're on have a podcast. We're on Spotify, anywhere podcasts or found. We're going to be back here tomorrow with Roxy and Brett. So make sure that you guys come in and check us out. Big 82 today for Roca.

It's a good start. Very good start. And we'll see if Roca – Roxy has yet to win. Can she do it tomorrow? We'll see. But that's it. Thank you. Appreciate it. Again, like I said, check out all the other stuff we got going on. Please support that reaction. to Warrior. I think it's the best reaction that we've done so far, and Sam's reaction is worth alone watching. I'm obsessed with that movie again because of it. So I hope that you guys have a fun time watching it. For people who've been asking for the reactions, the unedited reactions, members get that and patrons get that. We have the Wild Robot unedited. We'll probably do the unedited Warrior one also. Oh, Nick Vaughn, not letting us leave. I like it. The makeup job on the face of Crease's old sense in this season of Cobra Coy was absolutely horrendous and hilarious. Fair enough. Again, I just have the same answer that I had before where it's like I'm just so, I'm already so locked into the cartoonishness of it and all that, where they are and how they're doing

to that. It's like a superhero show to me. That's it. Thank you. I appreciate it. Appreciate you guys being part of this show. Thanks for being here. Again, if anybody wants to, and wants to look at that roadcaster.

I doubt it. But I'm putting it out there because, man, big balls is dead. He's dead. All right. Love you guys. Appreciate it. We'll see you on the flip side. Bye.