The Kristian Harloff Show - NEW CHAMPION! Universal wins the Box Office for 2023!

Episode Date: January 1, 2024

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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to. 2004, actually, it's not welcome back. It's welcome to. Welcome to 2024. It's the big thing. It's the first show of the year. So we're going to be doing a live show here today. There is a new champion of the box office amongst the studios. It's not Disney. That's right. Universal wins the box office. Is that shocking? Do we think so with the rough year that both Disney and Warner Brothers have? It's like, I always think of like the, it's like the Yankees and the Red Sox are going from the pennant. And then the, then the, the race somehow win the championship. It's kind of what happened this year.

We're going to celebrate the great Tom Wilkinson and talk about his performances and some of our favorite performances of his illustrious career. There's a few other things to, Game of Thrones, continuing the Lord. There's going to be a spinoff series that we're going to do a while ago. It's supposed to be live action, but they're making it animated now. And there's a few other things too. Wonka, one again. And just really kind of what do we look forward to seeing in 2024? And why can't I get this one particular Olivia Newton-John song out of my head?

That and more with myself and John Roker, who is somewhat responsible for today's show. Because he texted me the other day and he's like, are we still doing a show? It's new year. I was like, yeah, we've got to do a show. He's like, I'm available. So let's do it, man. And you guys have kindly. said in the in the comment section how much you've been enjoying the shows with myself and john on

monday so i'm glad i'm sure he'll be happy to hear that as well uh if you're brand new to the channel please subscribe to it apple podcast and spotify all that but i really want to emphasize patreon this year it really helps tremendously we get to speak to you guys on a more personal level i've been doing these one-on-one sessions we have one-on-one sessions with the with the crew themselves you get early episodes there's a lot of other things and they're going to do um things that'll happen Speaking of the Red Sox, once we get to 600 paid patrons, I'm going to have to watch the freaking 2004 ALCS with the Red Sox and the Yankees with GTE. It's horrendous. I see my co-host John Roker shaking his head.

It's like I'm watching a horror film. So that and more, what happens on Patreon when you join. So we are going to go over a few stories today. And as always, if you want to get involved and you want to throw in super chats, we'll, stay here as long as you want. Sometimes you keep us here a while and we love it. So I'm excited. Happy New Year, everybody. Let's get to it. It's the big thing with myself and John Roker. Here we go. Welcome back. 2024, everybody. It's the big thing. Let's do it. Live show, me and the outlaw, John Roker. What's going on, man? How are you? Good, man. What's going on? What's the haps and what the hell?

Yeah, I know. Happy, Happy New Year to you. my friend. Happy New Year, brother. Yeah, happy new year we go. It's funny because I was, as I was saying, I just, I lose track at time, man. Especially during the holidays, everything kind of blends together. So when you were like, are we doing a show on Monday?

I'm like, what the hell? We're doing shows on Saturdays now, Sunday. And then you're like, no, it's Monday, you idiot. So yeah, I'm glad to be joining you, but I can't, my daughter has been watching Stranger Things, have been going back and watching. So where she just hit, I let her

stay up last night to watch, she was finishing season three. So I let her do a marathon. And we didn't even hit 12 o'clock. We hit like 11.30 and we were exhausted. So I went to sleep. But she finished season three. But dude, I have this song from Olivia Newton-John stuck in my head now. And it's Twist of Fate.

You know that one? Yeah, it's from the film she did after Zanadu, Twist of Fate with Travolta. Yeah. That was my next question, because you and I are old enough to remember that movie. And you can't find that film anywhere. The movie's called Two of a Kind. Two of a Kind, that's right. And it's the stupidest movie that I love.

Do you remember the premise of the movie? Isn't it something otherworldly where like either she's an angel or he's out of time? What was the premise? Kind of. Not really. But there are angels involved. So who's our, who's our, oh my God. One of the most famous actors of all time, Oliver, right?

the dude from uh from gladiator oh yeah Oliver reed yes thank you Oliver read is in is in this film and he plays the plays the devil um right and he's going back and forth with an angel and basically what it is is there's they have to Troultta and the living in john for some way or another have to team up and show that because he's got god's going to wipe out the earth or something yeah sure and so they have to and the angel's like no he's done with it and and even the devil's like he's not going to do that. And he's like, no, no, no, he's going to. And then they have to figure out a way to make them, I don't know, if it's falling. I can't remember what it is, but what a reason why. But, and Travolta's like this second rate criminal, but he wants to be an inventor.

I know this movie way too well. I've seen it. I've seen it a lot. And it was like, because it was like their big, there was like their big re-team. Yeah, no, it was. Yeah. And so, and I looked for it, dude, he can't find it anywhere. You can't find it anyway. In a day of streaming where you can find anything. You can't find that movie. It's not like YouTube, but like, you can't even buy it on prime. You can't even buy it on Prime. Wow. That is shocking. It's crazy. So anyway,

that song has been just replaying in my head over and over and over again. It's a good song. Well, look, your reach is pretty far. So if there's anybody connected with the Olivia Newton John Estate or John Travolta's estate who has a movie, who has at least an HD copy of this.

100%. You can send a Christian so he can watch it. Please go. Give me that film. Um, yeah, so we put out our, our top 10 list. You know, it's so funny about that, that list, not the top 10 list, the, the best stuff with me, you and Dan. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. And what I saw, like last, last year, it was, it's doing like the same amount of numbers

that it was in, in when I was looking at it, um, last year. I was like, oh, I thought, because I thought maybe it wasn't doing as well. Yeah. And then it did the same amount of from when we put it out, just because those things are kind of evergreen, where people watching movies into January and February. Yeah, looking at more stuff. But, um, but, but yeah, I was really excited about that. I put out my other list and I'm pretty sure there's a bird in here.

You hear that bird? Yeah, I do. I don't know. It's close enough. Is it near you? I don't know where it is, but it's close. Is it an angel? It's a living Newton John.

He's a living new and John's spirit. Come on. That would be awesome. It would be amazing. Anyway, so we got a lot of things coming in 2024. What are your plans in 2024, man? What are you looking to do? And by the way, a lot of super chats coming in.

And I'm ready. Thank you. And we'll get to all of them. If you know this show, once we do our topics, we'll get to all of them. Sorry, John, go ahead. No, no, Motel Geeks Brothers in here, Hotel Nerd, good to see you again. Yeah, me, it's pretty much like work harder. That's basically it.

You know, Christian Hall has been really great every few weeks checking in on my channel, checking on how I'm doing. And he's always like, do this, you moron. Do this, you moron. And I'm like, I'll get around to it. Well, 2024 is the year I get around to everything. And so it's time to put it all together. I've been having conversations over the last two weeks with some people who are willing

to help. And so I'm going to put some stuff together and work harder on the channel, get myself back in shape, normal stuff that people do. And I don't know, just kind of work on becoming a better person overall. You know, it's always, it's never a it's never a finished product.

And so you're always kind of, what can I work on? How can I stay off Twitter? Like, well, those things you're working on really hard. So yeah, that's basically the plans. And I'm going to get back into acting, which I think is scary. Great. That's great. Good. And you just for Twitter, you just need to tape your hands to like a radiator or something. No, what you said on our show with Dan was perfect. Post and run. That's,

that's what I've got to start doing. Even though I'm glad you heard it. You didn't listen to it. I thought you heard it. I saw you the other day. It was like, there's someone. And you weren't wrong. You weren't wrong, but I just like, what, stay away from it. It's like, what did you call it? You called somebody. What did you call him? It was funny because I did laugh. There was somebody who posted, told you to stop doing, so they couldn't take you serious. because you do movie reactions and then you post the oh yeah but i don't know you call you call them something but it was it was funny but i'm like i'm like who cares who cares i the guy said to me go and you know yeah because you get to

reactions i know and his whole channel was reactions it was it was funny but it's like who cares i but i saw but i what did you call you called him something that made me laugh i just said is this you you you can't even write i mean you can't even no you called him a name that made me that. Yes. And I don't know if it was, it wasn't clown. It was, I can't remember what it was, I asked so maybe. No, it wasn't. It wasn't. It was something that I said, okay, it's funny, but why? Anyway. Oh, you're right. You're right. Yeah. But there was, there was stuff that was going on. I was, I was, I was curious that there's going to be anything that was actually happening today in the news. And there's already, there's already a ton of it. Yeah. Yeah. And this is, and I was looking at some going through, like, what are we really going to lead with? And man, oh, man. Yeah, this whole thing here with Universal.

Let me read this story. Please. And this is from Dark Horizons. Universal wins the 2023 overall box office. The domestic box office for 2023 is at an end with the industry just making it to the $9 billion mark, even with a strike-impacted release schedule and no major tent pole over the Christmas New Year holiday. Deadline and Comscore analysis report that Universal Pictures has won the year among the studio. The company taking the crown for the first time since 2015. Universal pulled in $1.93 billion for 20203 by the end of Sunday, up 18% on last year,

and led by the Super Mario Brothers with $575 million. I guess it's domestic, right? Oppenheimer, $326 million, FastX, 150, and five nights at Freddie 137. Disney is in second place coming close with $1.89 billion, just down $2,000.2,000. percent from last year, despite all the talk of it being a tough year for the mouse house, it had hits like Guardians of the Galaxy, 359, the Little Mermaid, 298. You can't call Little Mermaid a hit from the loss of it has, but it's, it broke even even even, I think. But either way, it adds to the grand prize.

Ongoing business from last year's avatar the way of water. Ant Man in the Watt, okay, so clearly, Ant Man and the Wasst was not, was not even close to a hit, but there, but it still adds, this is the bigger conversation, but Ant Man and the Wasponamia 215. and Indiana Jones in the Dial of Destiny 174. Warner Brothers Pictures was third, with 1.4 billion up 50% on its 2022 hall. Barbie, 636 million,

made up nearly half that total on its own, as well as being the biggest movie domestically of 2023. Nothing else on that slate comes close. The Waka at 135 million at the end of the year is doing good business for them. Sony was fourth, 955 million, up 13% on 2022, with a good chunk of it coming from Spider-Man across the Spider-verse. The rest of it was adult-targeted fare, including the Equalizer 3, Napoleon,

Sony will have 10 poles like Bad Boys for Venom 3 and Ghostbusters next year to boost its numbers. Paramount was 5th with 837, the only major to see a big drop with a fall of 35% from last year, and that's due to the lack of a top-gun maverick-sized juggernaut. Its biggest hit domestically were underperforming titles like Mission Impossible, Transformers Rise of the Beast, Teenage Mutin Ninja Turtles, and Scream 6. Lionsgate was 6 with 580 million, jaw dropping 623% from 2022. It saw three films of theirs, and it handily beat the mark on all that. You got Hunger Games, which was 323 million.

John Wick, Chapter 4, 187, and saw 111. Amazon was seventh with 270 million up 164% things, primarily to Creed 3, the boys in the boat, air and saltburn, and then yada, yada, yada. So, you know what goes into this, John, when I look at it all. What's interesting is we always talk about this, like look at Disney, for example, who came that close to winning the title again with the year that they had. Now you look at it and you go, wait, how is that possible? Because the majority, Ant Man, old mermaid, Indiana Jones, they were all losses. for the for the movies themselves yeah yeah but in the grand pool of it all like they're still they're kind of like because avatar made a lot of money in the beginning of the year yep made a lot of money so like

and and you look at like warner brothers warner brothers had that Barbie um happened so it kind of it starts to it sucks it but it but it it starts to average it out when you have all the losses like the flash and aquaman and all these things because barbie did so well it kind of like evens it out a bit but it just kind of still stings for them because they're like, oh, imagine those would have done well. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they'd have crushed, right? They'd have crushed if those Marvel films had done well.

But to me, it's kind of like, oh, I know I'm going to say this. It's maybe a little bit of trouble. It's kind of like a YouTube channel, Christian. Right? We know those YouTube channels that go like one video, two videos a day and cumulative, they make, say, 200,000 views or a million views for the month, right?

And then you have those YouTube channels to do one video a week, and they make the million-dollar view, or a million views or whatever a month. So it's a matter of how you want to quantify success. Warner Brothers, when you look at Barbie, that's 50% of their growth. If Barbie had failed, imagine what Warner Brothers take would have been at that point. Like it just would have been an absolute...

Well, look at Paramount. Look at Paramount. Yeah, exactly. Looking at Paramount. Exactly. It would have been the same thing. So you'd have looked at that and been like, well, what a terrible year for worth. So it just shows you how tenuous this idea of being on top is and how one movie,

or a couple of movies can make a difference depending on how you approach your year and teasing what we're going to get next year here for some of these other studios like Lionscape, doing well with Hungers games and John Wick chapter four and Suss saw X,

they were up 623%. That is madness, right? It also shows you, dude. It shows you how powerful and what a, it goes back to my analogy of what I said before the Yankees, the Red Sox and the race,

right? Yeah, yeah. The Yankees you could look at as, or the Red Sox, rather, who had a bad year, could be looked on as, like, let's say it's Disney, right? We're more so the Yankees, but let's say, let's say they're the Red Sox. And they have players that just didn't play well this season. But they pay a lot of money to play well, and they didn't play well.

So that's Lucasfilm. That's, you know, that's Marvel. They didn't play, they played okay. They had a couple good games, but for the most part, they didn't play to the potential of why they're getting paid the big bucks. But if they do have those big seasons, and they do have, then it's, It's like, because if Ant Man would have gotten to a billion dollars, which not even close,

but if Ant Man would have gotten to a billion dollars, if the Marvels would have performed, right? If all of these movies that didn't do well would have performed, yeah, he would have blown Universal out of the water. Yeah. Because they had the assets. Universal used all their assets that they had and they won the title. But if did, and same thing with like Warner Brothers. If Warner Brothers would have had, because of Barbie, if Warner Brothers, if any of those movies,

if Shazam or the Flash or any of those movies performed, they would have been, it would have been the Yankees versus the Red Sox with Warner's going, ha, ha, ha, look at that. But Universal kind of snuck up. They're R-R-FK. Sneaking in the background. Yeah, it's like fantasy football.

I lost my fantasy football championship this weekend to a guy who was seven and seven and squeaked into the playoffs at the last minutes. And he ran the table and beat us all because he hit it at the right time. Snuck in there, universal in the same way, just kind of quietly doing their thing piece by piece, and then they're standing at the top of the mountain at the end of the day.

But, I mean, clearly, Christian, those films not doing well is why Disney is going back into the warehouse to fix things and slow things down. And next year it's not going to be, probably won't be a big year for Disney either as they kind of take a step back and then hit it in 2012. Deadpool. Deadpool. Yeah, Deadpool. That's the one title that has an opportunity for,

for them to win to to get them to that kind of Barbie level they have they had that i'm gonna i want to actually we'll go over some of the stuff that they have coming out yeah yeah um i want to see upcoming releases for uh 24 and i wonder which ones have an opportunity to because it you're right they don't have a lot of marvel stuff coming out no so in january i'm looking at the stuff they don't have anything really coming out in january they're what they are doing is they're wide releasing, they're re-releasing some of their, some of their Pixar movies during that, that didn't hit during pandemics. Like, Seoul is coming out in January. I actually think this is a smart move. Yeah. Yeah, because it's like how much money they're going to spend on the marketing themselves.

Plus, you give it a theatrical run. There's nothing coming out in January. And there's really nothing for kids. And maybe there's something like, well, the common, the one thing that you could say is that people are going to look at and go, like, watch this on streaming. Why am I going to go out to the theater? But you're putting it out in a month. There's nothing out for. for kids and there's nothing really out so yeah if you're not gonna if it's not gonna hit you in the pocket too much to re-release it give it a shot yeah yeah i've already seen the stand-ins or the stand-ups rather all these theaters like uh was it turning red they have that one up there and they have sold yeah that's february that's and that's their next release and it's probably obviously

because of the strike there there are things that they had to push so they probably came up with this plan of like well let's put a little money into like you know some marketing and get He's come back in like turning red both of those movies soul and turning red very well received by the people who who watch them and like them and And they and I thought they're both really good movies and so you put them out now January February They that's the only cost is the marketing right there and and they probably They're going up again and turning red is going up against Lisa Frankenstein. I don't know what that is Yeah

Colleen. Colleen Hoover's it ends with us from Sony. Yeah, okay and that's what competition that's going to again, nothing for kids. So I might, look, I've seen both those movies. I might actually, both my kids love turning red. They love it. So I think if there's nothing, guys, you want to go see this in the theater?

They probably like, yeah, because they didn't have a chance to do it. Right, right. Because something sweet about seeing films in the theater, even though you've seen them for the first time at home. I mean, I loved going to the classical, the classic films, rather, in L.A. when I lived in L.A. in those theaters, because it's just a whole different experience.

So why not? take your kids and see it in the theater yeah because they don't have anything dude you're right but because they're going because then in march is luca yeah right so they're going boom boom boom and then i bet you they have something fairly big in it well probably it's may but april nothing yeah here looking at because i think uh marshall sent us said they're the first omen is the one they have in in april then kingdom of the 20th century fox right right those are all under the banner of disney but yes 20th century that's right you're absolutely right so 20 and then well that well then that well then that adds to why they are, they are going to have a good year because you, because apes.

Yeah, apes is supposedly incredible. That's what I'm hearing. Yeah. So they've got, okay, so yeah, so first Omen is the first one in, in April. Yeah. Which knows how that's going to do. Who knows, but it's, it's something, look, how much could that movie have cost? Oh, right. Yeah. Oh, no, 100%. Yeah. Probably 30, 40, 50, 60 million. So they're, as you mentioned, they're playing, already from this strategy, they're playing a different game. Yep. They're playing a different game. they're trying to re-release, make a little money on some stuff that they couldn't put out in the theater in the first place. And then they open in April with a smaller budget horror film, which, which, you know, could do well, depending on what it is.

And then May, they don't really, in May they have Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes and that's going to crush. That's going up against, well, I think Furiosa should move. A hundred percent think Furiosa should move. Yeah. 100% think it should move. They're going to get killed. Garfield is not the same programming that weekend. And that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's that's that's, that's, that's that's that's that's, that's that's.

kids so yeah the sony's in good shape there but furiosa coming out and on the same day they need to move yeah bad move um and then i wonder if because they own the muppets right the muppet movie's doing a re-release in june i assume that that's probably something that they would see too yeah it says fathom events but i don't know uh inside out too is a movie that could do really well in june yep their strategy what this is not bad so far the bike riders i don't know what that is do you know what that is Yeah, that's the new one with Austin Butler and Tom Hardy. Okay, so how much is that? That can't cost too much, right?

Yeah, the motorcycle writing film. Yeah, it's an independent film, so it's a small one. And then they have Deadpool 3 in, which is actually listed as 20th century studios, by the way. Oh, wow. It's not listed as, I don't know if that's the case, but it's listed as 20th century studios. I guess it started at Fox first and then come over maybe. It's also a way for them to not have the rated R brand associated with Disney. Bingo.

So that's probably what it is. So so far, up until July, Disney strategy, I understand the strategy, Roker. He's making Paramount Miss. He's great. Yeah. So, and then August 16th is the alien movie. Yeah. Romulus.

Which is almost nothing about, by the way. We're eight months away from that thing. Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything to me anymore because they could start to do a little bit more of a push once they have an actual trailer and then people will start raving about it. Remember, we didn't see a trailer for Avatar. That's true. And then August 16th was supposed to be something,

like there was an untitled Disney film that was supposed to come out, but it's going up the same weekend as Alien Romino, so they moved whatever the hell that was. And then, let's see where they close out. The amateur in November. Yeah, I don't see anything in September. What is that? What's the amateur?

I have no idea with the amateurs, but it sounds like some version of a hit assassin film, do you think? Who's in it? Do you know who's in it? Let's say. I'll tell you right now. Rami Malick. Oh, yeah, CIA cryptographer who manages to blackmail his agency. Okay. And there's an untitled Disney animation. It's all it says in November 27. So whatever that is.

And then they've got Mufasa the Lion King in December. So they are set up in a, like I said, I do think the strategy makes sense is nothing where you're like, oh, that movie. Yeah. an arm and a leg and that's a big risk. It's like I don't see any of those. I mean, Mufasa, maybe,

but I could also see, I see why you take a shot with that one, because it's the Lion King brand and you can have, you can have the kids out there to see it. It's the Lion King, and you get to see Mufasa as a young cub. So, yeah,

I think, I think that they're, they're poised to take the championship back. If you look at, I mean, we can do this, let's do the same thing. We want to do the same thing with Universal?

Sure. Let's do the same thing in Universal. Um, and I actually kind of like the, the counter programming we did here today. I like this idea. Um, January. Okay. Night swim. I don't know that.

I mean, I'm going to see that one. Yeah. It's a hard with, with, with, with, with Wyatt Russell, right? Yes. Yes. Who I like. Um, but I don't know. I mean, again, that's a smaller movie.

Right. The universal trying to, they start there. That's, that's their big one in, in January. Yeah. Yeah. And then Argyle, which is, which is, which could be pretty good. Looks fun. I think it looks pretty fun.

That one could be, so that's February for them. So so far, again, understanding, they don't, they don't take these big, huge, I mean, as they mentioned in that article, which as I want to be fair to both studios when I criticize them, is that where I said about the Little Mermaid and Indiana Jones? Fast X, you know, they listed it as a movie that made money. You know, it added money to the account, but it certainly lost. The movie cost like $375 million to make. Didn't even break a billion.

Didn't even break a billion. So that movie lost money for them. But in the grand scheme of things clearly, help them add to that grand total. I think we've hit the peak, by the way. I don't think those fast and furious movies are going to make the money. They used to very reminiscent of Transformers movies, and you know about those.

I know about those. They hit that peak in the middle, and then boom, those last two films didn't do quite so well. And then we got, bumble be and all that. And even the most recent one, underperformed even though they put that money towards how the overall box office did so i think we're

done with fast and furious being we're not the golden age we're not in the golden age of the billy where everything can hit million dollars because remember shocking was in like 2015 or ever was when that fast and furious movie hit a billion dollars yeah yeah yeah and then Jurassic world did and all these things like there's so many of these movies you can bet your ass that universal is going to do another Jurassic movie though somewhere or another every time that that last movie shouldn't have made 35 cents and it made over a billion dollars again which is like if you're anything you're anything you're anybody over there, you go, make another one. And what's so crazy to me about movies like that,

it's proven that those movies will make a billion dollars. Yep. So make the fucking thing for like $100 million. Make it a small story. Again, I know people are going to get sick to death of me saying this, but when it comes to like the Godzilla minus one strategy, make that Jurassic movie. Make that movie for like a hundred million because people are going to see it.

And if you spend the money and the marketing, market the shit out of it, then let us know that we got another Jurassic Park movie, but spend nothing on it. Get actors that are relevant and that people really like, but it doesn't cost money to hire them. Yeah, if you look at the first Jurassic Park movie, that's the key, right? Work on the human story with these characters. And then you have the monsters in those moments that are shot,

or the dinosaurs, whatever you want to say, that are a sense of wonder because they look so believable and realistic. So if you combine those, which is what Godzilla minus one did, that's what people really want to see. Yeah, you'll make your billion or whatever, but no one's going to remember it. No one's going to look on it friendly.

I couldn't tell you anything about that last movie. Yeah. Except that the legacy characters were in it. Except the locusts. That's the only two things I remember. I wouldn't have remembered it until you said it. Right? But there's just certain things. But continuing on, Kung Fu Panda 4 will do well for them in March. I think it'll do well. Again, if you hit with the kids movies

with there's just not a lot, as saying as a parent, there's not a lot out there. Although for some reason, I cannot get my little one to watch the Kung Fu Panda. She just won't watch it. I know she'll love it. She won't watch it though. Let's see. But my, I always tell these stories about my, I tell people the audience of my, my little one is essentially, you know, Silvio Dante from the sopranos. She's a little gangster, but like I was putting her to bet. She likes when I put her to sleep. She snuggles up to me and falls to sleep. But the other day, she makes me laugh. Even when she says shit, where I'm like, who says this to their parents? I'm laying there with her, and I have her in my arm, and I move my shoulder over and something falls off her of her little stand on the side. She goes,

what was that? And I go, those are my glasses. And she goes, no one cares about your glasses. hilarious. She's six. No one gives a bunch of glasses. Can we? Yeah. Let me be honest. No one cares. It doesn't matter. Put them there. Put them anywhere. Let me give you shit. Anyway, we're going to keep going through this real quick because this is to me a little

bit more fascinating a lot of the stuff that we were going to talk about. Okay. But before we do, I also want to tell people to throw the super chats in there. I see them. We're going to get to all those questions. Don't worry. I got John until until it's over. Yeah. So let's keep going down here. where we have there's a universal untitled universal event film in april i don't know what that is yeah it's directed by radio silence so that's what they've got there now and yeah again haven't

heard anything about this before four or four months too john there's two there's one there's one in april fifth that's that's that's not the radio silence one oh okay okay okay so in april fifth gotcha then there's that one that one that you're talking about on april 19th which is the untitled monster thriller by radio silence yeah yeah one of those will move yeah has to yeah and then May 3rd is the fall guy that looks great yeah may 17th they were going to have something it was canceled um and then another universal event film on june 21st so it's hard to really say what you know what kind of impact they can have because we don't know what those movies are yet yeah yeah yeah yeah july third is despicable me for that could do well um speak no evil they're

doing the kind of same strategy that um but in august instead of april speak no evil is another one that could probably do well for them untitled the blum house one always do well what's the wild robot do you know what that is no idea what the wild robot is that it doesn't even doesn't even tell you who's in it right now just says production and technical credits that's the only thing there's no there's an epic adventure following the journey of a robot um rosam unit 7134 ross for short that is shipwrecked on an un inhibited island and must learn to adapt the harsh surroundings gradually building relationships with the animals on the island it sounds like a wali type thing it's a dreamworks animation film is it yeah what it is 2016 children's i see i see okay uh and then

and then they have something the next week but it's a thriller movie it's a horror movie untitled monkey paw horror thrill they have a lot of untitled stuff coming out so yeah yeah monkey pa's the jordan peel company so yeah yeah exactly so this is something i don't understand They just mentioned that Ryan Gosling jumped off that Wolfman project recently, right? Yes, for Abbott replacing him, yeah. Okay, well, it's scheduled to come out on October 25th. How? They haven't even shot it yet.

I don't know, brother. There's no chance that movie comes out at that point, right? And then they have another untitled event film on November 1st, Wicked Part 1, that will do very well for them. Yes, agreed. And that is really it for them. So it's hard to say how they're going to do. Right. I don't know what they have coming out.

Well, they're filming Gladiator 2. And right now it's supposed to come out on November 22nd. I don't think that comes out by November 22nd if they're still filming. Is that now? Where is? Did I miss that? No,

it's on the Wikipedia page for it. Oh, yeah, it is. No, no, that's Paramount. Oh, am I thinking Paramount? No, Universal is. That's what I have it on Wiki looking at it now. Maybe.

Paramount. Oh, I see. It's in co-production with Paramount. Oh, yeah, no, Paramount's the one that's getting the,

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So let's keep doing what we're doing here. Let's, you would mention, well, we should probably go and let's talk about, let's just talk about Warner Brothers because I don't know how much Paramount has a shot to do it. But we'll talk about the three, because what I like to do is I'm going to go through those three after I do this, and we'll see who we think after the strategies that we've heard. And I want to hear from the audience, who they think is kind of, kind of poised to be the the champion of 2024. You know,

we can revisit how everybody was wrong when it turns out to be like lions. In January, Warner Brothers. What do they have? Warner Brothers in January. I don't think they have shit coming out. I think Mean Girls comes out in January. Isn't that Warner Brothers?

That is. Oh, am I thinking something else. No, no. That's Paramount. That's Paramount. Go ahead. Yeah. Sorry about that.

You're taking away Paramount stuff. I don't see, I don't see anything for January for Warner Brothers. I don't think Warner Brothers has anything until, until Dune. Maybe I'm wrong. Let's say. So nothing in January for, for Warner Brothers, February, nothing in February. Yeah.

For Warner Brothers is off the table until March 1st, but they come out swinging with, with Dune Part 2, which will do very well for them. I think that's going to be a much bigger movie financially than the first one was. Yeah. And then, yeah, and then it's just quiet. for a little bit, but Warner Brothers has Godzilla and Kong the following month, which will also be pretty big for them. So that's two back-to-back punches that they're throwing.

So far, so good for Warner Brothers. And then they got Furioso, whether it stays in May, I don't know. But that's boom, boom, boom. They're coming out. They take a quiet approach, but then they come out with like some serious hitters from up until May. Then June, June they have the watchers. What's the watchers?

Do you know what that is? The Watchers is the one, I think that's the one, no, no, I don't. It's Sean Malone's in a movie. Oh, it is? Okay. Yeah, so, Shomelon's got that movie now in June. That's, yeah, that's the Watchers. And then you've got Horizon and American Saga Chapter 1.

Is that, that's the cost of Austin. Yeah, Austin or Western. Westerns are always tricky in the box office. Yeah, always tricky in the box. I think I mean, you are the same. I love them. Yeah. but but i always i never prepare for them to do well right right you know people think i think

people just think they it's like horse shit or something like i don't want to smell horses like you can't actually smell it i don't know what that is but i don't people have a thing of horses you can't smell it thee you can't smell horses listen i'm gonna tell you you think you can but it's just a movie all right let's see we move into july they got nothing in july yeah yeah and they have trap in August, which is another Shamaon movie? Who Shamaan movies? Yeah, that's weird. Whoa. So there's another movie now. And then they have, wait a second. I'm confused. Oh, and then. Yeah. They're both coming out on the same year. Horizon. Yeah.

Not just not just the same year. June and then August. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's, I've never, I mean, I remember when the Matrix came out. Yeah. They did The Matrix, you know, part two and then five months later they did part three. Yeah, yeah. Two months. What the hell is this? I don't know. This is the Kevin Costner.

Like, that's crazy. Maybe this is the only way they agreed to do it. Like, okay, we're going to do it this way, but then you've got to release him and we have each other. Yeah, I don't know. And then September, they're going to own September because they got Beetleju's two coming out. Right. And the smart move with that not only is it the legacy and the big I, and having Michael Keaton return, but they got Jenna Ortega right now in this role.

That's big for them. And then, yeah, see, they're, we'll talk about the overall strategy, but I see what they're doing because September they have Beetlejuice and then they follow it up in October with Joker while you do. Dude, come on. Yeah. Then we talked about the amateur. That comes out in, oh, wait, no, that's Disney. Excuse me. They have Alto Knights.

Yeah. That's with Robert De Niro, Deborah Messick, and Catherine Narducci. No one's going to see this, okay? No, what is this? Directed by Barry Levinson. Let me tell you. It's a mafia movie, dude. Directed Barry Levinson, though, dude.

The guy who did Rain Man, you think he's going to do a good mafia movie? I don't know. I don't know. But it's a, what's it about? Does it say what it doesn't give us a doubt? It's a mafia movie with Catherine Narducci again and De Narducci again and De Niro. You put De Niro in a, in a, in a, you put De Niro in a, in a, you know, in a, but what's it. In a in a mafia movie, people are going to go, all right, how's the trailer?

So, yeah, it's based on true story. Vito Genevese and Frank Costello, competing Italian, you know, Costello was part of murderinka, I believe. So competing Italian-American bosses and Jennifer. Frank Costello was Irish, wouldn't he? I don't remember for he was Irish. Is he playing another Irishman departed? No, but I don't remember.

So go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, he was an Italian-American crime boss for the Luciano crime fan. Okay. Yeah. So Geneviz tried to kill him. So I guess maybe the film is about him there. So, yeah, I mean, it's got a shot. It's got a shot.

Depending on, again, this all, this goes back to the conversation of how much money did it cost? Is it a good trailer? Yeah. Because there are certain movies like that that can hit if it's a small, now, you and I differ on the opinion of killers of the flower moon as far as quality of film, right? Right. But we are both in agreement that in no world show a three hour and 45 minute movie. movie cost $200 plus million. You know,

who's, how, what kind of strategy goes into thinking that movie's going to make its money back? Yeah. There's no way. There's just no way. There's just no way. There's no way you can get. I mean, a movie like that normally is not going to,

you're not going to, $200 million. So if it's a scaled down budget, then you got a shot at that time. So Alto Nice. edit, look, they must have confidence in it if they're putting it out in November. I guess. I'm curious. I'd like to revisit that.

I just don't know that Deborah Messing and Catherine Narducci are necessarily, do you know what I'm saying? Catherine Narducci has been in a ton of movies and with him and she's recognizable to fans when it comes to mafia. She's Sopranos and Braggs tale and all that stuff. She was the Irishman. I think she plays Pesci's wife in the average. Yeah, well, she's got, you know, it's funny. I used to know her because of my old, yeah, my old management company represented her. And she's, she was very sweet. She's very nice. Oh, no. Good actress.

Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's see. So Warner Brothers, November 15th. So the last thing that they have is the, in the animation that they have is actually Lord of the Rings, the War of Rohan. Yeah. That comes out.

That could be pretty big, depending on how that is and how it's marketed. Because I think that Lord of the Ring fans are looking for kind of like a pallet cleanser since the Amazon series. Well, Spiderverse also, right, that kind of showed you what you could do with an IP. If you put a lot of effort behind animation, this could be incredible. Yeah. We really moved by this, yeah. It's a great point.

Let me see, let me ask the audience here. I mean, I see the questions coming in. Do you guys want us to go over Paramount or should we just nip in the button, go to the next thing? Let's see what people are saying. Because we can, because we'll, if they want us to do Paramount, we'll do Paramount. If not, we'll just kind of go over the three that we just talked about and see out of those three. Yeah. Who we think has the best strategy and who's going to win.

Also, guys, we're a little light on super chats. And, you know, it's the fucking new year. I don't like that. I don't like that. Don't do that. Don't do that. I don't like that. If you want to put in a superchar. No. No. Listen, here's the thing.

You want to do it. You do it. If not, don't. I can't tell you, John's not going to be outside your house. But, you know. Where's the money, T? Where's the money? All right, they want to see Paramount. Let's do Paramount. All right, let's, we'll do Paramount.

Okay. And then, then we'll see. Let's see if Paramount has a shot. I mean, look, maybe, maybe the audience does, just did this. instead of going like this, they just did this and they wound up, and Paramount winds up winning, we're going to feel like assholes that we almost, you know, went right past them. They've got Mean Girls in January.

Mean Girls could do very well. It's based up, because it's, it's not like a remake of just the movie. It's a remake of the, it's a, well, it's a first telling, I guess, of the Broadway. It's like Color Purple that's out now, right? That's right. That's a, that's a theatrical adaptation of the musical. That's right. And my daughter is obsessed with it.

Oh, she's obsessed with the musical. And so. This will do well for January, and it couldn't have cost that much money to make. Right. And you've got Tina Fey involved. You have a lot of people involved with it. They're involved with the original. So it's not going to disappoint fans of the movie, and it's going to excite fans of the musical.

So I think it's a very smart move for Paramount. And that probably do pretty well with it, I think. Yeah, good cast, too. And Gorey Rice, who was in Nice Guys and Spider-Man. Yeah, Spider-Man. And then you've got Renee Rapp, who's very. well known in Broadway circles and Carvaya, who is of course

from Moana. So it's a good combination of actors along with, as you said, Tina Fey, and Meadows coming back. Yeah. Well, in February, they've got Bob Marley, which I really want to see, but I don't think this movie's going to do well. I don't know, man. I cannot predict what's going to happen with Bob Marley. Here's the problem with it.

The problem is that it's supposed to come out in January at one point. And they had it scheduled for January, but because of the strike and everything, too, they moved it to February. And that is probably because they need something in that spot. And it's a bummer. Look, I've been waiting for, I read a script on Bob Marley's life. Yeah.

When I first moved to L.A. Oh, wow. Yeah, dude. Like, I remember being stone off my face, watching, reading this thing, listening to Bob Marley music, and when are they going to make this movie? And that was like 20 plus years ago. Yeah. So they still haven't made the damn thing. And they finally made it.

I think that it looks, the trailer looked good. It looks awesome. It looks great. Oh, yeah. We forgot Sony all. So Sony doesn't have a chance, right? I don't know. Maybe this is the whole show me.

We'll do this. We'll do this. And then we'll just go through it. We'll do this. We'll talk about, I want to talk about Tom Wilkinson before. Yeah, absolutely. We'll talk about Tom.

And then, well, that's, that's the main stuff. We'll leave the other stuff alone today. But we'll just go through this. We'll go through Paramount. We'll go through Sony. And then we'll take questions from everybody because we fear to Sony. The Paramount, Bob Marley, one love.

Yeah, trying to think. Good cast, Kingsley, Benadier. Lashana Lynch. I love Kingsley Benedere. I think he's such a talented dude. Yeah. The only thing really redeeming about, well,

I only saw two episodes of Secret of Agent, but let's see. The guy who did King Richard. And so that was kind of a quietly successful film when I was the Will won the Oscar. I hope so, man. I'm rooting for that movie. I'm rooting for it.

Me too. They got Jack shit coming out in March. Yeah, Jack's. I think it's a carrot. and Lewis Gossett Jr. It's a strange mix. Wow. Strange mix.

Yeah. Nothing coming out in April. Nope. So, wow, they got nothing in March or April. Yeah. Well, that's interesting. That's not Marley's going to carry over. Not looking good so far for,

and then they have if. If looks good. It's got Ryan. Yeah. If, well, that doesn't mean shit. He's had tons of movies that have not done well. Yeah, but it's in his wheelhouse, this magical thing.

Yeah. So my, my little one, one was made me watch this trailer eight times in a row. Wow. She's so excited to see this film. So excited to see this film. So this is a, that's, that's one that could work really well for them. That could be a good hit.

Quiet Place in June. That's your big one. Is it Rizzynski if? So are these two, Zinski's back to back? He's not direct in that one. Okay, okay, okay. No.

But he's, he's, yeah, no, he's like, which is interesting, right? Because he's got, so he's got that. that one in oh well quiet he's still going to be a producer on it obviously but he's got so that's um that's june and then nothing in july right wow yeah and then nothing in august nothing in august wow they pushed every i mean transformers won which is their animated film that's september um yeah they're they're they're not in they are not this is again using a sports analogy this is their this is their year that we're building this is their building year because they are not trying to win a championship.

We've got some good veterans, but yeah, yeah. November 22nd is Gladiator. Yes. Sonic the Hedgehog will do well for them in December. So then we'll, and that's it. So they are clearly not trying to win anything this year. According to Wikipedia, I've just got a smile too, which is October 18th, and that's a sequel to another whole.

October 18th, that's so. October, did I pass that up? No, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, I passed it. You're right. Entitled Smile sequel in October. Yeah, that could also do well for them. It still doesn't give them a chance to catch up to anybody. And then lastly, with Sony, the Book of Clarence on January 2nd, that's Leith Lee-Standbel.

Yeah, great R.J. Seiler, great cast, Alfred Woodard. Yeah, good trailer as well. Really funny trailer. Yeah, but not, not, I mean, again, couldn't cost that much, but not one that's going to be like a big box office juggernaut, but could do well for them. So that's Sony. Let's see, as we move on here in February, their big thing in February is Colleen Hoover's.

It ends with us again. This is Blake lively. No idea what this is. Again, it doesn't seem like one that's going to be a big hit. Madame Webb. That's going to be a, that's going to be. Madame Webb, that's what I call it. Madame Webb.

Hey, listen, have you seen Madame Webb? Can't find it anywhere. You won't. You won't after two weeks. You won't find it anywhere after. Here is my damn web. It's in the dollar section of blockbuster. Wait, what's your fucking prediction, man?

Do you think that movie's going to make a like a fucking $800 million? No, you mean like, like, is it going to be an random thing? Yeah. In spite of it. Like people are going to try to make you think it's a great film. No, they're going to throw in that Marvel's nonsense that they're throwing in all the time now. It's like, oh, it's because it's women led. Nobody went to see it.

Yeah, that's what they'll probably throw that at. But why, but in what world does someone go, you know, we should make Madam Webb? We should, we should, we should do it like this. And even though she was a villain, it just looks, they're trying to take the same strategy that they did. They're trying to recreate venom. And they've tried to do this before. They tried to do it with Morbius. Or what is it?

Morbius, right? And they couldn't do it. Yeah. And they couldn't do it. And it's like, it's going to be, I think it's going to be the first one that kind of stinks up the joint when it comes out. I think it's going to be a stup. More than Morbius. Do you think more than Morbius?

Yeah. I mean, it's still, it's still one of those things. This is going to be one of those ones that I think hurts. It's going to be the first one where you're like, oh, is what the Marvels and Aquaman did. It's going to be that for Sony. Maybe, maybe wrong because I also think that it doesn't help that those movies that I just mentioned just came out because these, these movies like the, the, the, Flash and Shazam and the Marvels and Aquaman when it's like

and then Ant Man's like boom boom boom boom boom and the casual audience is like just stop it stop it and then you know my damn web comes out and you're like who cares and unless unless it comes out and people go

it was actually fucking awesome if people start if people took it was awesome it was great and people couldn't believe it this movie was actually really clever and it's awesome. There was a bad trailer. We've seen bad trailers before represent great movies.

Like, I think, what is it? What's the freaking one with Tom Cruise? Oh, oblivion? No, that one I love the day after. Oh, yeah, day after tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Edge of tomorrow. Edge of tomorrow.

The edge of tomorrow is a movie. I remember the trailer and like, who cares about this? And then it was a great, it's one of my favorite Tom Cruise movies. Yeah. All right, so, Madame Webb. hits and then probably you're right probably gonski after that paramount continuing on yeah we've got my past into that one and that's february so they got nothing in march i i see ghostbusters frozen

empire but is that a co-production as well i think so we're okay we're we're we're we're looking on the sony dot phantom dot fendom wiki what day what what what month march 29 March 29th so much So March 29th is Sony. Yeah, March 29th is Sony. Yeah. I was looking at Paramount. That's why. Oh, okay.

Yeah, we did Paramount, right. So you're right. Yeah, Sony. Sony is, that's going to be a big one for them. Yes. Sony then has Sony Pictures classics. We grown now. But that's, that's April.

I don't see anything else from them. Now, May 10th, they've got two movies competing against each other right now, which is, I don't understand. Horror Scope. Yeah. And my ex-friend's, well, wedding, which is a, okay, Cannon's directing that one.

Oh, nice. Okay. I like Kay. So that's interesting. Why they're, why they're going up against each other. Then there's a,

I don't understand why they're doing that unless they move that. I don't know. I don't understand whether to compete against each other. And they have another movie coming out in May with, with Garfield. Yeah. And it's like, what are you doing?

Why don't you just move something into April or move something into, yeah, move something in April. That's weird. They get three things coming out. on May. Yeah. That's weird. And then they have an untitled bad boy sequel? Is that coming out? I don't. That's what they're saying. They're shooting it. Wow. Okay. So that's in June. That

mean, that'll do that'll do well for them. Sure. Sure. Um, and then, because I don't, I, I don't think that the Oscar thing with Will Smith will, will, will carry over. Enough already. Yeah, I think so. I think at this point, people, I think there's still going to be people who hold on to it. And I think people won't want to see it for certain reasons. But I do think that it won't, it won't damage the box office. Oh, you know what I didn't see by the way? Yeah, yeah.

Disney. They pushed Snow White into 2025, didn't they? Yes, they did. Yes, they did. That's not a, that's not a dumb move. And like they, you talk about something they need to get away from right now. Yeah.

And, and yeah, that, that's, that was. I think you called that, like a few weeks ago when I was on here for, on, when I was there in the studio, You said, like, they need to move that thing. They had to move that. They had to be so far removed from her silly comments. They have to be removed from those comments. I want to ask you a Star Wars question, but go ahead.

Sure. Well, let's get through this and then we can do it. So then Sony, Untitled Bad Boys should do well for them. Then they have a Scarlett Johansson Channing Tatum film in July. I don't know what it is, but those are two big stars. August 24th is Harold and the Purple Crayon. Then the Forge on. They have a lot of, like,

multi-movies is the first this is the first studio we've seen that has like multi-movies coming out in this in like the same months yeah dude they haven't this is a third movie in august it's craven the hunter yeah another fart piece i think that looks good there's no way that movie makes money there's no way that movie makes money that movie's gonna eat shit yeah um and and then they have uh then they have another movie coming out in september with brad pitt and george cluny i guess it is in in wolves. I'm gonna know what that is. You know what that is?

No, I don't know what wolves is. But we like George Clooney and Brad Pitt. So that's, and Amy Ryan, who's great. Yeah. So far, so good with Sony's,

and you know, changing up a little bit. It looks probably like a potential Oscar thing, you would assume. Sure. Nothing in October. Yeah. Then Venom in November 8th.

Yeah, we'll probably make money. That one will probably make money because it's got a brand. And then, they have already scheduled for a karate kid to come up in December. So they're they're poised to do okay. They're poised to do okay. They're, they're, what's interesting as we look at this, they're they all have different. You can see in the numbers there, each one of their strategies. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a fighter strategy, right? Like in how it's like, all right, we're going to come out.

We're going to start like Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers is like, no, no, no, we're going to start off slow. We're not really going to do anything. We're going to let the other guys punch. and then once we get to March, April and May, we're going to start throwing bombs. And it's like, boom, boom, boom. And you can see them trying to do that. Disney is going on, let's play a little of the old game throwing in some of their old movies. And then they come out hitting. Out of what I see so far, as much as I've been critical on Disney this year, because I think they've made terrible choices.

And their budgets have been overblown. And their strategy behind story has been atrocious. I think they're poised to do the best, and Deadpool is going to help them, and Apes is going to help them well. But it's, I do as it is back to Red Sox and Yankees. I think it is, I think it's a race between Warner Brothers and Disney again this year. Yeah, yeah, it feels that way looking at all these films, because the Disney ones have the most, feels like, has the most reliable slate. Right.

Overall. Right. And I think absolutely that's going to be the one that people are going to look at and it's going to make, it's going to win out. And Disney wants, Disney needs a good year, right? Because everyone's taught, even though it came in second this year,

so which surprised a lot of people, Disney likes to be first. So I feel they're going to work over time to get people to like these movies and get people in the theaters to watch these movies. You can see the strategy behind it. I really seriously. I mean, as they play it,

it's like you can see what they're doing and they're like, and as Bob Iger was saying, we're not going to spend the kind of money that we did before. We're not going to over inflate stuff. We're not going to overinflate. you can see it in that release schedule.

It's like, oh, they're like, it's like, they're trying to come back and they're trying to take it with a smart strategy and not just kind of overswing because there's not a lot of overswings in that one. There's a lot overswings by Sony. Yeah. Like three movies and one month twice in the year. Yeah. You got to assume some of the stuff is going to move. But like that's, that's interesting. They feel like they're like, okay, look, we have movies that we had to push in 2023.

We have some movies that we could push into 2025, but we need to try to get money. back in 2024 we need to make money so even if we lose some of it just put everything out right now because we have other things we need to get out in 2025 just stick it all in 2024 throw it against the wall and let's see if we can make some money yeah and they've been talking about the box office analysts have already been saying how there's less movies coming out in 2024 because of the strikes and what have you so they think the box office is going to be down i think quite the opposite i think people are going to want to go to the movie theaters more and more. And I think the box office is going to surpass what the expectations are that people have

overall. And it sounds like a lot of these films from early reactions that both of us, you know, we have people we know who work for these studios and get access to these things early. They're getting a lot of positive reactions to a lot of their films. So it could be a really great year for movies, both Temple and Independent and Foreign as we go along through the year. I agree with you. And I also think it's important for the industry in general because there's only one big superhero release and no Star Wars movies, no Star Trek movies.

There's no, the big IP movies are Godzilla and Kong and Dune and there's really, I mean, and a lot of the animated movies, but there's none of these movies that have really dominated for years. No three Marvel movies a year like that. And it gives the other movies in the old school way of movies a chance to bounce back. Yeah. It's got and and you saw a little bit of that with like even something with like Barbie and with Oppenheimer and these movies that were really the one that that and Mario those were the ones that took the crown this year. You're going to have Deadpool do something really, really big. Yeah. It's going to be a huge movie.

But there's these other movies that you have a chance to get your Mario. You have your chance to get your Barbie. Like what's it going to be? Who's going to be the ones that really stand out and get people back into the theater to see? because it's like a thing that happens in your psyche when you start to see these movies as a casual viewer you're like oh i went and saw apes and it was so great to see a movie like that again or i went to see this movie i never seen a movie like it adds to you going well i want to go back to the movies again because i just saw that and that's a new movie that i saw and that's why i'm very curious as you don't think it's going to do well and i got to see a trailer but that denier movie movie like i'm so curious to see how that movie does after the trailer because if it's a crap trailer and it's just like ah it doesn't it's and doesn't know what he's doing with a mob movie. But if it's a movie that can get people back into the theater to watch a classic mob story, which we have less time.

Normally, that's like a streaming movie that's going to happen on Netflix now. Right, right. So if it can happen, if it can happen, it would be great because an animation seems to be poised to be doing, you know, you got Transformers,

which are big IP, got Lord of the Rings, which is big IP, you got all the Disney movies. So it's a very- And you didn't even mention beyond the Spiderverse, because we don't know where they're going to slate that. That's not next year.

You don't think so? No. Like 2025? 2025 with an early 2026 potential, but I think 2025 is more, 2025 dude is going to be, I mean, like, I don't know. Like if we don't, it's, I want to see how many,

like we have a lot of questions that we are, oh yeah, because, um, but I, I almost want to like look real quick at like what 2025 is going to be. I mean, it's just like, I mean, we don't have to go to each studio, but I'm going to go through 2025. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, like, 2020.

is insane, man. It's insane. Let me see. Let me get back. You got that's like one after another. One blockbuster after another. Yeah, it's insane. 225.

Oh, did they move the 225? What I'm looking at on IMDB, the Batman Part 2. Well, hold on, real quick, because I have this, I have this site that I use. They usually list everything from like, and, And it's just easier for me to do it that way. Let's see. Upcoming releases. Because I remember looking at it recently and just being, I couldn't believe it.

Like how, like the, because they pushed because so many things got pushed. Yeah. So let's see. Maybe. Okay. Yeah, I got 20. Okay. Here it is.

So this is, again, there's tons of stuff that they're going to add to, to it eventually to. But just in January already starting out strong. Megan 2.0, right? Paddington in Peru. Yeah. And then there's an untitled DreamWorks animation is an untitled Warner Brothers. That's January. Yeah.

February is Captain America Brave New World, the Smirk movie, Untitled Universal. That's all scheduled for February. That's all that is scheduled for February so far. So there's other spots in February. March 7th. Untitled Disney film in March 7th, whatever that is. And then March 21st is Disney Snow White. So they're going to Disney's there.

April 4th is Minecraft. April 11th is an untitled Disney film, a universal film. April 18th is The Exorcist's Deceiver. There's an untitled Warner Brothers event film, and then there's something else that comes out from Angel Studios. May 2nd, Fantastic 4, May 9th, P31, May 16th, Universal film. May 23rd, Mission Impossible, with an untitled Disney film the same weekend.

June 13th is another Disney movie, Elio, and then How to Train Your Dragon Live Action. June 27th, Black Phone 2, Moana Live Action, Untitled Sony Marvel. Disney has 75 movies coming out already. July 25th, untitled Disney film, Untitled Universal Film, July 11th, Superman, July 25th, Thunderbolts, August 1st, Untitled DreamWorks, August 1st, Untitled Warner Bros, event film, August 15th, Untitled Disney Film, September, Untitled DreamWorks Animation Film, Dirty Dancing sequel.

October 2025, the Batman Part 2. October 10th, untitled animated Avatar film, last airbender. October 17th, untitled Blumhouse film. November 7th, we'll see, but it says Blade. Blade. November 26th, untitled Disney animation, Wicked Part 2. December 19th, Avatar 3. Untitled SpongeBob Squarepants,

and December 24th, the exceptional Santa Claus movie. There's also movies that haven't been slated yet. Dr. Zeus, the Cat and the Hat animated. Thanksgiving 2, Toto. I mean, that's not even, that there's a tons of stuff that is not even mentioned yet,

and there were tons of dates that weren't even scheduled to put anything. That's insane. Yeah. That's insane. That could be, if those movies hit, a lot of those movies hit, yeah, that's the biggest,

box office year like ever yeah if you're gonna start a youtube channel do it now for real you're gonna have tons you're gonna have tons of cover exactly and considering that all the uap is gonna land but then and then i'm gonna be that stuff forever do you read that article i sent you read it i watched i mean you watch it you watch that thing yes that pretty nuts or what yeah you don't get you don't get into it i don't want to get into it because i don't want to believe that it's true i don't want to believe that they're housing all this stuff you know i had that conversation with my wife and she was she's like stop talking about it because it's like legit scary me now yeah because if it's real

then all these things have been hidden from us for so long longer conversation but why in the world with these particular people that this guy's interviewing what they're not long longer story um all right let's uh let's get to i want to talk about tom wilkinson okay and then we'll get into the questions because so i had the pleasure of um i i'm very close friends with uh with Tom Wilkinson's manager. Oh, that's great. So the first thing I did was reached out to him because I never had the opportunity. If I did, it was very quick, but I didn't really have the opportunity to have a conversation

with Tom, but all I know is my friend Larry, um, raved about him, talked about him all the time. So that was actually my first text was to Larry when, um, when I heard about his passing. And he was used for, for his age, a younger man, you know, so in the 70s to, to, And I don't know if they had a cause. Was he sick? I don't remember that there was anything that they specifically mentioned as the cause. Yeah.

Yeah, no. It is, from what they say in Dark Horizons is that the statement says he passed away suddenly at home with his wife and family. Specifics have not really been revealed. The actor has boast more than 130 film and TV credits to his name since he began acting in the late 7. and it was received two Oscar nominations and six Bafton nominations in his time. The list of movies is packed with titles many are familiar with in the 90s. There was in the name of the father, sense and sensibility, the ghost in the darkness, Oscar and Lucinda, Rush Hour, the Fulmonte, Shakespeare and Love, Ride with the Devil.

In 2000s, he did The Patriot, Black Knight and Turtle Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, girl with a pearl earring, the exorcism of Emily Rose, I mean, on and on and on. 2010's included the ghost writer, Green Hornet. I mentioned Batman begins before, too. The Debt, Burke, and Hare, Mission Impossible, Ghost Protocol, the Grand Budapest Hotel. I mean, so many, just so many of what he's done. And he's always, he's always just solid performances.

And I think because we just would be here for another three hours, if we talk about all the great performances it had, I thought that what we could do is talk about maybe the performance that stands out to you, that you remember the most. For me, it's Eternal Sunshine and the Spotless Mind. Yeah. It's one of my favorite movies of all time.

And he's so good as the doctor, Harry, and he, the complications of that character and what he did in certain things that he does with his eyes and the relationship he has with Kirsten Dunst. And just he just did, no matter what it was, if he played a doctor, you believe, If he played a doctor, you believed it. If you played a gangster, you believe that. It's like you never said in any performance that he ever did. I don't know.

I don't love that performance by Tom Wilkinson. You can say that a lot of people, even great, great, great actors. That wasn't one of their past. I don't remember ever saying that about Tom Wilkinson, like ever. To me, him and Jim Broadbent are in this. Yeah, yeah, very small bucket of people, of British actors that have played status up and down the list. Sure. And I played different types of people from different walks of life and made it believable.

And always added an extra layer of class to the work that they did. No matter what I said, like watching him in the full Monty, that's where I first got to really appreciate him as an actor. Right. He's playing this guy who's suffering with he's out of a job. He doesn't want to tell his wife that he got fired. He doesn't know what he's going to do next. And he has to confront this idea of like, how am I going to make money sitting on the dole? it's not enough for him. So he takes on this thing and he risks so much as a middle-aged,

middle-class business guy to take off his clothes and do this dance. The lower-class guys or lower economic class guys you could understand, but him risking so much more embarrassment but did it. So it was beautiful to watch his performance there, sense and sensibility, loved him in Batman. Jesus, he's so good. That was the thing, right? He just transformed himself to really like, oh, that's the same guy that did that. Yeah, right. And I rewatch some scenes over the weekend. with him and as Falcone and he's like he is so good in this film so good so good so uh love and uh and thoughts go to his family and and everybody that this was touched by his work and it's just that he was he was like you said it was they said in the reporter suddenly so that's it's a real bummer but um yeah

it's it's not really it's like these unfortunately it's like the same things you are kind of left with in your thought process when they have you're like well yeah for that people don't realize that is a younger age to go out. It's also, especially when it's suddenly, and you always think about the family. So Tom Wilkinson gone too soon here. So respect and love to everything that the man has accomplished. No easy transition out of that.

So we are going to get to, oh, you know what, John, why do you give me your Star Wars question? And then we'll, and then we'll, oh, yeah. What's your Star Wars question? This is going to be interesting. All right, here we go. Over the weekend. Yes.

Some people have started speculating because of something that someone tweeted, a particular actress tweeted, that who could be raised Paduan in the new Star Wars movie and you mentioned a certain actress recently a few seconds or a few minutes ago and I wonder how the internet would react

Jennifer Rachel Zegler Oh that wouldn't go well She already has a relationship with Disney with Snow White They won't do that right now I don't know They won't do that right now Would you explode? Would you lose your mind?

No I don't I don't dislike her. I think her comments were not great. I thought she was great in Hunger Games. I thought she was great in Hunger Games. And then, yeah, I'm not, I mean, my thing is the way that I approach this show and other things, though, too, is like, I think this is what people do wrong on the internet is that they're, if you're, and maybe not wrong, because if you have a hate channel and you're leading with hate, you have to, you have to continue to hate things because that's your brand now. It's your brand now. in the same way that people who like love everything like everything is awesome crew as I call

you know it's like and it's like there's just no balance it's it's hard to be credible yeah that's like you'll have people who just will champion you and say yeah yeah and then if you if you go against something that either one of those people say if you go against the the the people who love everything well then you're a hater and you're part of the hate crew and if you are if you go against what the hateful people say well then you're a shill and you do this it's like you just got to be able to talk about your opinion on thing, and my opinion on her is, I think they were dumb comments. I think they were silly comments. And I think that she plays into a narrative that is just like, oh, we need to do this because

if we say this, it goes against, it's this false idea of what feminism is with what she was doing. And I thought there were some great comments that were said on the opposite from feminists. From women. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. We're saying these things like, no, because we weren't trying to find love doesn't mean that it's a dated concept and this and that.

And I thought her comments were not if, and there's a reason why Disney was like, do, do, do, do, stop it. And the stuff with, you know, but it doesn't make me go, I'll never watch anything with her ever again. Right, right. That's silly.

She's a talented action. That she's great in West Side Story. I think that. I think that there are times that people need their publicists to say, stop this. Yeah. Stop this. Do not like,

and this is the problem with Twitter. As we're talking about, it's a problem with, I mean, I know this was in Twitter that, what she said, but she, but she got on Twitter then to start defending herself and do it. It's like, stay away from the gosh darn Twitter. Stop it. And like, it's the generation. It's the generation that that does it in general. The two, I don't, dude, I'm a Schmowdown.

It's like people like competitors. I know. I know. Fans instead of talking to people. I was like, stop. Just fucking talk to people or take. And for her, she's like, she's on this line saying like, oh, yeah, cracking the thing about the, the prince and saying, weird, he's a stalker, weird, and that people use that shit against her. And it's like, you got to be careful of what you say. And I think that if you cast her in this movie right now, right? Right. What, would I care as far as the performance?

No, it'll probably be a good performance. Right. Do I think it's, do I think Star Wars needs, because there's this argument, right, John, where people will go like, well, you can't give in to the mouth breeders. You can't give in to the hateful people. Unfortunately, those people still buy movie tickets. Yes. So if they're out, if you make a movie that they hate, they have an audience.

And like I said, they're going to hate your movie no matter what. Right. A lot of time. But there are people that are like, look, you got to balance it out sometimes. And you got to say, look, you got to say, look, a year, two years ago, easily would a cast her. Right now, she doesn't have the best buzz behind her.

You've got to think business-wise, too. But even after the Hunger Games, don't you think that this would be, maybe let it right out, maybe a month or two? No, because Hunger Games are shot already. And the Hunger Games also had an audience that was going to see the movie and is built in, and it didn't cost the kind of money that Star Wars is.

It's not four years removed from, or at the point, by the time, time it comes out what six years removed by the time the movie 2019 dude it'll be like seven years from the last like movie that came that comes out so I think that it's not a smart move I don't think for for PR it's just not a smart move talent wise yeah I think she's very talented and I don't mind her I don't mind her I mean and but I don't think it's a smart move to cast her in that movie if that's the case at all no general Ortega even someone that I don't know is because it's like Stop getting the what's hot.

Let's build new stars. You already got Daisy Ridley. You're going to put another famous person in it that'll sell the movie. Let's use that role to build up a brand new star in the same way that you built up Daisy Ridley in the new trilogy. Good suggestion, man. I like that idea. So that's my thought process on it. All right.

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and it's from our buddy over at Hotel NetNor. Hey. Hey, guys, been a minute. Yes, it has. Why was Mario not mentioned in the best of viz? Did you see the video of a kid doing rocky speech to Sly? Slice reaction is priceless. I did see that speech, and I did see that kid do that.

It was great. The two that I've seen, I've seen that one. I've seen the Hogan one, which is pretty funny. Oh, my God, the Hogan one's great. But that one was great because, and it's very similar to Hogan. They're going back and forth with each other on it. That was great. As far as Mario goes, I thought Mario was a cute movie.

It's not in my, it's not in my top 10. And I liked it more than most people. I thought people were a little harsh on it. But my kids loved it. I liked watching it with them. I've seen it a few different times. And I thought it was a nice representation of the game, but wasn't enough to get into my top 10.

Yeah, no, it's not my top 10, but I enjoyed the hell out of it. You know, because I'm not a Mario player. I had never played the game before because it skipped me. because I'd just gotten too old to play it. And so to me, I went in with that kind of, like, fresh approach to it. And I thoroughly enjoyed it. But I could totally understand people who are massive Mario fans not liking it because they have much more opinions on the lore than I would have had.

See, that's crazy. I felt like the Mario fans themselves were the ones that, like, loved it. Really? Yeah. Like it was the, I felt it was more so the people who were expecting more than kind of just like a greatest hits or kind of the music or like, oh, remember that. There was a lot of member berries in there, but I liked it. I like to me it was a more more true version of it like there are certain things that happen

as so either way um all right our buddy at haskell hey guys happy new year happy new to you i just watched josh harwich johnwick three watch along with chet selisky and it's awesome yes to it chad says he'd love to tackle star wars and has an idea we need this to happen um yeah look i like him a lot i do i like him a lot and i like his movies i think star wars needs more right now i think more substance. I think that fun kind of over-the-top action, sci-fights, and I haven't had a chance. I didn't even finish it yet, but Rebel Moon,

which we haven't really talked about. Rebel Moon is, it really is, it's all style. It's no substance to it. And I fear that's what this would be. I feel like that's what this would be. And as I mentioned before, Star Wars needs wins right now.

It needs to come out firing. And that's why there was rumors of the, like you guys said, like the Mandalorian, movie coming out first, which that's kind of since been negated, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, like, I don't know. I don't know what they're going to do, but I don't think, I don't think Chad Seleski's

the guy to do a movie yet. Yeah, I mean, I could see him doing a series, right? Like you did with Andrew. Yeah, yeah. That's very much Gilroy's perception of Star Wars. All right, let's see what Stelsky's potential, or perception of Star Wars is. Make it like that. But no, I agree with you because the films, John Wick films are great, but you don't

go to see them for the really emotional, heartbreaking, touching story. You go to see the action and you go to cheer this guy on kicking a bunch of ass. So yes, it would be fun, but I think in a really small way, you could have that be in Star Wars, but not in a big way. That's right. Now, if I walk it back a little bit and I say, because I recently did a rewatch of all the John Wick movies. And the first one has way more like, I guess, structure of story and like there's more real, if anything. The fourth one, to his own admission is a video game, right? Now, if they made it, it's the same thing I said before with those with the Jurassic Park movie.

If they made a smaller like $80 million Star Wars movie, a small movie, they would never do it in the theater. It would be one of it be something that would happen as a series or something, but in the vein of like what they're doing with Echo, right? Yeah. And you did that with him, sure, but if you did a smaller movie with him that you were going to do and like, I would love to see Disney take those kind of shots and say, let's put a smaller Star Wars movie out and see how it does. Yeah. Let's try to put a Fox searchlight version of Star Wars out. Yeah. Why couldn't they do that? You know, why couldn't they cross over and do it?

Like, they own both. So do a Fox Searchlight version of a, or not Fox Searchlight, but a Fox Pictures version of Star Wars. And say, look, here's, here's 80 to 100 million dollars to make a Star Wars movie. What can you do? Yeah. You don't get the 300 for this one. You get a smaller movie. What can you do?

I'd love to see them do it. They're never in a million years do it. No. No. Our buddy, the great Tim Simp. Hey, happy New Year. You too, Tim. With Disney being the obvious box office loser of 2023. Well, they weren't. No, they weren't the obvious box office loser. They had, apparently from what those numbers had, they definitely had, they definitely didn't live up to the potential of what they thought they were going to do. I would have told you before they read all of that, that they were probably the biggest loser, but they weren't. Is Disney focusing on smaller and more original content? It must start. the rebound in 2024, hoping the world doesn't fall apart this year. Well, same, well, same here on that last part. But when it comes to, like, if you look at that strategy that they had, it looks like they're putting together a strategy that is really going to try to help them kind of build back and utilize the tools that they were kind of missing out this year. Look, the Kansas City Chiefs just

won their division, right? And so you look at it like that, because I know Tim's a big sports guy, you look at that, Tim. Yeah, the potential was there. there for them to be the number one seat in the AFC. They didn't get there. But they still won the division. They're still in the playoffs. Disney like that. Coming in second,

the potential you expected was Disney to be number one by miles. Right. They didn't. They got number two, but they weren't off by much to still be number one. So a down year for Disney is a huge year for most studios. Yeah, well,

that's what I was saying. It's like, if those movies would have all hit, there would be no competition. Like, so it was in one way with Tim saying, like is it did they have the most disappointing box office when it comes to what they wanted to have sure sure but overall they mean they were number two right behind even with us even with a

subpar year they were number two barely behind the the winner um because they just have so many more tools uh by the way what you call that guy was dummy just said dummy just said dummy all right so simon section thank you simon the very very generous of you. Happy 2024 guys. John is refreshing to see that you're looking forward to seeing the American Society of Magical Negroes. Every other reaction I've seen hates it and thinks it's a black Harry Potter movie.

Chris John, I'm hopelessly devoted to. Well, thank. Hopelessly devoted. Very nice. Very nice, Olivia Newton, John. Nice reference. No, you know, I haven't seen the trailer yet. Is it a good trailer? Yeah, it's a funny trailer. It's got nothing to, it's got the Harry Potter like vibe, but it's not about Harry Potter at all. It's about confronting this

issue that some people have brought up that, you know, some black people feel like they have to a certain way around certain white people in certain situations. So it's a, it's a parody of that. And then it's also, if you can, it's also a romance within the trailer. You can tell there's a romance happening. So it's not just about the commentary. It's also going to be focused on the romance. And it's the romance that changes this kid and kind of inspires him to challenge what this American society was doing. So there's a lot more going on here in this trailer than people are giving it credit for. And so I just am surprised at some people having negative reactions to it.

So also look, it's, it's, the quality of the film also talks about stuff too, like when I think, although not not not always when you look at it. We're talking about Dungeons and Dragons. I'm still so bummed that that movie just didn't do well. Yeah, agree. So someone someone saw some and this this was a reason why someone saw our video me, you and Dan talking about it and they said, you know, I wasn't even going to ever see that movie. And then I checked it out because you guys recommended it. And I loved it. And I loved it. And I think there were so many people that felt that way that were just like, I'm not going to see this movie. This is. but i can i can pass this never worry about it ever again and it's it's a really good movie um mike joyce have you ever have you two ever thought about growing out your beards beards are cool i mean this is the best i can get man like when i start growing it out too much for two things happening it's patchy is part one and part two my wife goes what are you doing stopless you look homeless you look like a 70s porn star if i start to grow mine out because i can't grow it and then i get pulled over more often yeah i look more latino when i grow it out well you were one of these guys

I've seen pictures. In high school, John was like 12. He had like a 40-year-old man mustache. And it was like, so you're going to be. I can't grow up. I can't grow nothing out here. So it's only going to be here. And it looks terrible.

Yeah. Oh, so Lisa Frankenstein is directed by Robin Williams' daughter. Ah, yes. And stars Jughead from Riverdale and Cassie Lang from Quantum Media. Okay, thank you. That was from Al Johnson. Thanks, Al. Okay.

John Lee. You guys have most anticipated movies and TV shows for 2024. for for me movies Deadpool 3 Mickey 17 and TV industry two and the boys season four yeah I'm gonna put out actually my list I always put my most anticipated list out in like the first week of January so it'll hit this week so look out for that I'll have all movies and I'll probably do a TV's one also yeah same you do it by the end of the week okay yeah so check us out there for sure but I mean Deadpool is gonna be on there for sure I can give you that that

Deadpool and then Dune because I left Dune off my list last year probably without real it you know, subconsciously. And, and it'll be up there for me too. I can't wait, June, too. Like, I would like to go back and revisit, though, my, my most anticipated list of last year. Oh, yeah.

My number one was a big, uh, it was a big letdown. That could be a fun Patreon thing for you to do. Maybe. It's not a bad idea. Revisit my anticipated list. Maybe I'll do that. Um, because like I did a, I did a, um, I looked at back. My number one was Indiana Jones.

Oh. Yeah. Didn't even come close to my number 10 at a, argument with PLD because we did a live big thing on Patreon with me and me and and bibbs and PLD we were talking about and PLD put Indiana Jones on his like top 10 and and I yeah I mean look to each his own and we were just and bibs and I was just for pork I was like kind of not crapping on it but just like okay solid choice. I'm surprised that Harris doesn't even have a cameo in that film I'm surprised it's tough yeah uh let's go Kevin Frazier

coming in hot. Kevin, hey guys. I was introduced to John through this show. Thank you, John, for all your content. And Christian, your channel is like the Community Square for passionate movie YouTubers. All the best this year, cheers to go. That's very kind of you, Kevin. And I'm glad that you found the outlaw through us. That's awesome. Good news. Always thankful to Kirsten for that. Yeah. And I'm glad that you start checking out his stuff. He's got a lot of good stuff going on over his channel. And yeah, and look, that's kind of my goal is what I try to do. I try to answer as many comments as possible to try to get people. And so I was kind of making a heavy push on people. And so I was kind of making a heavy push on people. Patreon too because it allows me to get even more connected with everybody. And that's like, that's why when I see a lot of people who are connected through Patreon here, I know them like kind of right away. Well, thank you. That was very, very kind to you. And thanks for the very sweet words. Okay.

Next question. Alma Powell. Love the hot Mike and the big. Happy New Year, Jens. Happy New Year to you. Thank you guys for everybody who's putting in these generous donations right now. It helps out the show tremendously and it's very kind of you guys. Mike Joyce, Steamboat Willie.

Just got adds to the public domain. How long before we see? get the blood and honey treatment. Someone will do it. I hate those stupid things. Yeah, I know. I hate those stupid things.

People are begging them not to do it, but they're going to, someone's going to do it. Because there's something, I mean, look, the other thing is what people don't realize is that if, I wonder how much that blood and honey trailer did on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then if they monetized it, right?

Like, it's their trailer. Right. You probably make some money back on that freaking thing. And like, it's like how much? I don't know, but I'm saying there's ways to monetize outside. of the actual box office plus how much does that movie cause yeah but i hate that shit like my my and people go why because regardless or not like my at the time my daughter i think was like 10 and she was

going through some stuff at the time it's like kind of anxiety and certain things and like and she and that she saw a trailer for that thing it popped up and it gave her more anxiety because it like tainted this idea of what winning the pool to a child to a child's mine granted when you get older she'll get over it but like it's like it just she loved winning the poo and she has like this idea of it now it pops up and it freaks her out right and and there's other things too grinch and other things too and that they do and it's like i i don't know i get it it's the same with me i'm not telling you don't make it go ahead and make it have a blast i just think it's garbage i think it's garbage it's like those parents that hire people or dress up as the grinch and's like you're on tictock and they

storm into the houses and take presents in front of their children i'm like what do you do Like, what is wrong with you? It's a, yeah, it's a fucked up thing. I don't understand it. Vincent Zawanna. Bong Joon is a new movie. Mickey 17 is right. That's the one people were talking about a lot.

I'm sure that one will be pretty good as well. Kevin Pattinson, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Roman. Roman Fedorik. Hey, Christian, I know you probably have talked about this so much, but what do you think of the chances Disney actually alters their budget strategy

after the over $1 billion losses? Well, I think we just went through that list. And I think that, well, I'm going to, I'm going to counterpoint to myself right as I say this. In 2024, it looks like they are scaling down in TV releases, in movie releases. In 2025, it looks like they're just walking around the neighborhood with their dicks hanging around. Because they have everything coming out. Yeah. Everything.

So, but I do think, I think that that's probably the strategy. The strategy is this. All right, 2024, we take it easy. Re-release, re-release, re-release, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, Apes, bum, boom, boom, boom. Let's make our money back.

And then we can go, let's go with our gloves off in 2025, and then maybe they scale back in 2026. Maybe that's the move. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. You feel that's the same thing? Yeah, yeah.

It's pretty much, yeah. I agree with you 100% in that analysis of that, an approach. So, yeah, that makes the most sense. And, you know, they're going to try things. They've been around, long time they're going to try things see what works see what doesn't work why not make that effort in this next three years and see what the narrative around yeah Tim simspan yeah thanks Tim

also what do you think of 824's expansion plans especially with the news of working with video game mastermind Adia Kojima on adapting his game death strand strand stranding as a movie it'll be fascinating to see what you think about that John it's it's interesting with 824 because you know they're known for a certain thing you know Christian we talk about brands all the time branding this idea of brand what are you 824 is known for this expanding out is always dangerous. Exploring the possibility of becoming more mainstream with a brand that is known for being unusually,

unusual films, unusual out of the mainstream type films, independent films, it's a dangerous road to walk, right? Amazon Prime or Prime Video, expand it out to try to make more of these films that are more mainstream accepted. Well, how have the awards gone for them? Not so well. I think that's the danger with A-24. You start diluting the brand.

Let me start meth with the brand. People might pull away from it a little bit. So it'll be interesting. I'm still, I'm still the freaking Iron Claw, though. Oh, my God. Great movie. Um, and other such nonsense. The watcher is Shyamalan's daughter.

Okay. Okay, so that, okay, cool. Okay, so that'd be interesting. Yeah. Let's see. Next one here. Thank you for that one. Ralph.

I love simply Ralph. Amazing. Rwatch return in 2024, Apes and Mad Max rewatch. Well, so it won't be a full rewatch anymore like we used to like with, uh, Coy Winston and myself, but what, what I will maybe do is like kind of like a watch-along thing that I had done with, let's say, um, Elemental that I did with Brett and I might do a few more of those here. And it's the matter, it's just for me, it's like Greg Alba does stuff where he's able to have like

say Roxy and Coy like do stuff, um, with somebody else and he's not there. I don't have the luxury of doing that yet. Um, so I've got to, I'm still have to do things all. all myself and and first of all i i say that with gregg is probably the busiest guy in the world that i know oh 100% the reason why he's not doing it because he's got 7000 other plates that he's juggling on his hands the guy's the most hardworking motherfucker i know but like he um but he's able to he's able to kind of have other people watch the watch the films i would love to get to that place but right now i don't have the opportunity to do that um and i would like to do more of them but it takes you know anywhere between two to three hours to do all of it and i'm working on this

other stuff right now. So I'd like to. Are you going to do those? Yeah, I would do Mad Max with you. I'm going to throw my head in the ring. You're not to choose me, but I'm going to throw it in the ring because I love those movies who grew up on those movies. But I would love that I'd like to have a conversation with him. How the fuck have you not seen some of these movies, pal, I need answers. But that's what I'm saying. That's what he does. Remember, that's what he does. I think that's brilliant. He has people on his channel that haven't seen it. You're right, right. So even if he hasn't seen some of the stuff, there's other people who haven't. And so that's why he's finding a lot of success with that over there.

And I think he's a very smart dude. He's a very smart dude. All right. Let's see. Next one. And this is from Robbie Rob. Andango ranked Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, the third most anticipated movie of the year.

Really? You think it could be a surprise hit of the year and you have bigger box office, excuse me, and have a bigger box office than the last one. I do think it'll have a bigger box office than the last one. Because I think that people were so just over the brand at that point. It was similar like X. in first class, where they were like, okay, another ghostbusters.

I really enjoyed the last one. Yeah, I liked it. I thought it was, I thought it had heart. I thought it was cute. I teared up at the end, man. I teared up with the, with the goat. I teared up. And my daughter loved it.

My wife loved it. I think it's a, I think it is, and I think it also started to grow more of an audience through digital during the pandemic and everything too. So I do think it'll do better. And I do think it'll do pretty well. for them. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if it's third most anticipated. And, you know, Fandago's, you know, they also sell movie tickets.

So you have to kind of factor that in when they're putting these things out there. But like, to me, I think it is one of the most anticipated. I don't know about third, but certainly I'm looking forward to it. And adding Pat and Oswald and bringing them back more concretely with Dan Eckward and other people, I think that's going to be the key. And you're right. The first film, I liked it. And the kids were great to bring your life into it. A little girl was awesome. Yeah, she was. Carrie Coom, Paul Rudd, all of them had the right lives.

So yeah. And I also like to go back to New York, which I think is great. Sorry, Chris, good. Yeah, yeah. That, that is great. But Finn Wolfhard is in the movie, too. And they don't, and they don't say, well, this is the kid from Stranger Things in it. You got to put him first and foremost. They don't. They make it the girl.

And it's, oh, they're putting a girl in the girl. She represented Egon so well. So well. So well. So well. That little girl, I didn't, I had never seen her before. And she was just so charming and so endearing. I loved. I thought not enough people talked about her performance.

She was so wonderful in that role. Yeah. All right, here's the next. Jonathan Pack. Hey, what's up, Jonathan? What 2024 movie are you more intrigued by? My movie Twisters do the cast, director, and reported budget of 200 million. I mean, yeah, that's one we didn't even cover.

But that one is interesting. I think intrigued is a good question. I have to be honest, we mentioned it here today. I'm intrigued by that De Niro mobster movie. I love a good mobster movie. If it's a good one. I haven't seen a really great one in quite, although Killers of the Flower Moon was a gangster movie.

It absolutely. It was. It wasn't an Italian gangster movie. It was a gangster movie. Sure. So what about you, John? You got one? Most anticipated? The apes film. Not anticipated. Most, like, intrigued by, like, whether it's Bob Marley or something,

you know, like something like that. Well, I hate to go simple, but I guess Dune, too. Because I want to see if he lands the plane. because that first movie I really liked. But like people said, they wanted to hold out their opinion until they saw both parts. Sure, sure. And so for me, I'm very intrigued to see if Denise is going to be able to land this thing

and make it a blockbuster because no director has been more underestimated, more underappreciated than Denise Villeneuve. Sure. And what have you in the respect. He's been one of the greatest filmmakers we've had the last few years. And people need to talk about him with more respect. And I think this film, if it lands, could finally get people to understand appreciate him as a director got i love the first movie i'm this i mean

i guess i'll the spoiler for people too which at this point they don't know it it's probably my number one it's probably how wow i just thought about it i'm like when that screening comes in there's i will cancel my day for it like if you're like it's like it's a two o'clock on and it was right in the middle of something i cancel my day for it like i'll be there on time i'll be i usually get there half an hour before everybody else to do it those screenings because like it's not yeah you've got seat you got to get a seat yeah I'm usually always there half an hour early I will be there on time everything I can't wait to see them because I didn't see the first one in the theater and oh wow I want to see the first I want to see the second I'd like to see is I'd like them

to do a re-release of the first theater I think I hope so I hope so uh all right here's next one okay Sandy Martin will we ever get our masters of the universe movie I I kind of hope not, to be honest. You know, you guys know my connection to this. A lot of you know my connection to this movie and kind of everything that I've gone through with it in general. I don't think people have a grasp on. It should be, it should be Lord of the Rings meets Star Wars. And I think that if they really followed the blueprint from the 2002 Cartoon Network series,

and they followed that lore, they could really have a hit. on their hands and brand new lure that works, but I've just been in the kitchen with all the cooks, and they don't know what the hell's going on. They just don't. They don't know how to do it. So I don't think they are going to get one. And honestly, I don't,

I kind of hope we don't because I don't think anybody knows how to crack it yet. How do you feel about it, John? Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. Because obviously, that one from the 80s is a kitch factor. I like the animated series that Kevin Smith was involved in. I enjoyed that by the end. but yeah i think it's such a dangerous property to adapt and you've got to get so many

moving factors of it right because it could all fall apart and be super cheese all over again then they've wasted all that money for another film that doesn't really do it justice and the nostalgia factor christian people's nostalgia for that film of that series is massive i'm telling you dude you fuck it up man people are going to tear you apart did you ever see the 2002 series yes yes i did yeah I did. So, like, there's a lore behind why the sword does what it does.

And there's a lore behind why Skeletor is who he is and what happened to him. It's, it's, it was, it was brilliant. It was brilliant. My choice. I think studios are spending a lot of money on indie films at film festivals this year. I think, I think you're right. I think you're right because of Oscar stuff and things they want to get into the conversation towards the end of the year. And those Oscar movies also build talent, like tremendously.

And even though she's been established for a long time, this year, is going to see an even more rise of Carrie Mulligan. Carrie Mulligan is, I, I guess I hadn't seen Maestro when we did our video. You guys were 100% right. She's, she is as much as I love Emma Stone and I love Lily Gladstone. Yeah. It's my choice. I know people are going to get mad.

I don't think I don't think anybody's going mad at you for that, dude. I love Lily and I know it was talking about Lily, but. Lily is great. Lily, Lily was when I'm watching going, who whoa this is an amazing performance Carrie Mulligan is just yeah next level in that movie next level

because she's allowed to be I think the negative thing with Killers of the Flower Moon with Lily is that Scorsese spends her has her drugged up for the last hour of the film which is super frustrating because you want her to act you want to have more opportunity to act emotions and feelings and what's going on

and there isn't that opportunity given to her but she does great work within what she's given whereas I think in Maestro Carrie has much more space to show you which she's bringing yeah agreed um all right next one levi r why didn't disney recast tchalla feel like it was a slap in the face to the black culture one of the only superheroes we have and you don't recast so winston and i have talked about this in depth actually i understand why people would want a recasting of tachala and i understand why they did it at first um i do think that with multiverse with everything else that they've set up i do think that

think that you should and could recast the chala and i do think um that it's not disrespectful to chattwick to do so but what you do have to understand is when they made the decision to do the movie that they did they were in such a place of pain from losing this guy they were in such a place of we can't like imagine if you were working with someone who felt like your your brother and like a close part of your family and that person passed away and then they're like well we need to replace it with somebody else regardless of whether or not you may or may be right the answer is this is someone that they're like well we replaced him because it's it makes the more sense to do it business wise and everything too and they're like and even culturally like yeah but are we disrespecting

our brother by doing this and at the time i can understand the choice i think though now with time that has passed and the time will continue to pass is that you are right where this does represent a character that is very important to black culture. And I think that it is something that they should consider, and I think with multiverse, they should. But I do understand why they decided to do it at the time. But I do think that you are right. I do think that they should recast.

That's my personal opinion. Yeah, I agree. You can't separate human emotions from these creators. And certainly Ryan was very, very close with Chadwick, as he said on numerous occasions. The actors, as you said, Christian, everybody involved, had such love and care for him and the surprise and shock

that a lot of them felt over the way his death went down where people didn't even know he had this cancer and so people had to deal with their emotions of it all bringing in a new actor to play the character I think would have absolutely messed with it plus people would have gone after him oh you're not Chadwick Boseman and that would have been very detrimental to that actor

so you avoid all that by going the other route and as Christian said so well time heals all wounds so now we're in a place where I think if they do recast and certainly it seemed like they were laying the groundwork for that with his son at the end of Black Panther 2 then you can go forward with that possibility so I do think they're absolutely going to recast I just think they wanted to wait for time to go by people to settle their feelings in love for Chadwick and then they'll recast the character so yeah that'll be coming I think people will understand more so now than they would have back then yeah all right let's see don rinaldo McWhiskey

great name hey just wanted to send support thank you catching the replay love all that you do I really appreciate that and thank you for the kind words. You got a great name, but I don't know if it tops butt funnel. 4.99. Thank you, but funnels. Appreciate that. I always love on a good butt funnel. All right, here we go.

I think that is that it? We're going to find out in just a moment, try. No, no it is not. Skeleton Strange New Worlds, number one fan. OG Ghostbusters was a mature horror movie with Bill Murray jokes. Then Ramos Akroy took the franchise into full family comedy and it started there. Why can't they return the franchise to its origins? I think that the last one did have the mix of that. I mean, we can agree to disagree, but I do think that it had that

element to it a couple different times. And I think that you go back and watch the first one, sure, it had horror elements, but it's, it's, it's on par with a lot. It's, it's, it has jokes in it, oh, but it's not like a full on horror movie, man. It really isn't. It's got some creepy things here and there, but it's got some goofy stuff going on to. Slimer alone is pretty, pretty goofy. It's first and foremost to comedy. It really is. It's got horror elements. It's got scary elements too. But I think that the last

one had more of its roots than the second one did, to be honest with you. Yeah. And they're going to go a little darker with this one already, as you can see from the trailer, right? Where it's this hate that is feeding this thing that is freezing New York. So, you're going to have an element of that, but no way does

Ghostbusters move away from the family approach. Yeah, no. It just doesn't make sense. Especially when it was successful. Yeah. Okay. Hutsizinger. Okay. Have you all seen the Japanese film Monster that came out recently? Would highly recommend. I did not see. Did you see it, John? No, Obama did. It's on his top 10 films in the year. No, I didn't see that. I'm looking for, I want to see it now.

Thank you for the recommendation. Dr. Bright. What do you guys think? Why do you guys think Bader is considered the greatest villain in cinema and not his master, Palpatine Sidious? He was behind everything. Well, first of all, you got to remember this, is that Palpatine didn't really come into play. Ian McDermen didn't come into play until Return of the Jedi. He was not,

Vader was the first that people saw in 77. He was, Ian McDermott was added into the franchise later on. He wasn't even the original actor when they appeared in hologram form in Empire Strikes Back. He was just kind of behind the scenes. It was Vader that was the front and center for the first one. And the second one,

if you see Empire Strikes Back for the first time, is devastating. It's a Shakespearean feel to it is all these different things. So it's like that for the time and then even the prequels where you see kind of how Palpatine was pulling the strings, you were so already established as Vader causing all this damage that it's not going to overshadow it from, you know, prequel stuff in my opinion. Yeah, no, 100%. I mean, and also Vader is such a cool appearance. And that's the, if you go in order of the release of those films,

start with the original trilogy, Vader is just such a compelling villain that by the time the emperor comes around, he's not going to overshadow. And he never, because he's much more active. And so it's much more interesting because he's active. Whereas Sidious in the back is just like kind of pulling the strings, that's not as compelling as someone who is actively doing the villainous things. And I say this as Palpatine is my favorite character in Star Wars, by the way. Look at No Country for All Men, right? Someone hired Javier Bardem. But Javier Bardem, it would be the villain that you would most want to find out,

not the guy who hired him. Right, right. Timson, best role that Tom Wilkins did for me is Benjamin Franklin and HBO. He's great in that. That's a good choice. It's a really good choice. Let's see. Tim might have closed the sound.

No, he didn't. Spidey Sins, who sends in a nice one. As a stand-up comic, Christian, what are you? thoughts on the latest David Chappelle special. I felt it wasn't his best, but I got a few laughs. I have not seen it yet. I've heard similar to what you just said, but I have not seen it yet. But I would like to check it out for sure, as I always watched Dave's stuff. Roman, hey again, I wanted to ask if you guys saw the slide doc on Netflix. Did you see it? Fuck, yeah, I did. I haven't seen it yet. If not. I know, I know. I think it's worth a watch.

I know people are mad at me that I didn't see it. But is, is it great? I keep that title. Yeah, you can keep it. Is it great? It's so good. And it's not what you expect because it's much more about his issues with his dad. Okay. I think that's what it is, so, John. I think that I feel like I've seen everything.

Is it, is it like Arnold where I haven't like, I haven't seen everything? Yes, there's so much stuff here between him and his dad that I had no idea about. All right. There's polo shit. Him and his father are polo players. So there's a lot here that I think you'll be surprised by it's not just, hey, I'm incredible. Look at all the shit I did.

Right. It's more about like, look at the. the fucking things that drove me and why they still mess with me today so it's a fascinating documenter makes sense okay i'm gonna check it out um elusive rock just puts in a donation thank you thank you appreciate that very much okay let's see if we are i'm like i said we stay on until until they're not here anymore but i think that might be it oh i'm lying to myself again uh hotel nerd network which new year's eve shows you watched last night the national countdown was great with lindon and Skinner. Nice tribute to Gary, who we lost in

2023. I'm, I'm chuckling as I'm reading that because, like I said, I was watching. My goal Hotel Nerd was to say, okay, I'm going to give my daughter, my wife wanted to go to bed. So that's fine. I'm going to give my daughter this marathon so I can then at 1130 turn off and watch and we watched the ball drop. We were done with season three for her at 1130. And then I went, I'm going to sleep.

I'm in the bed. What did you watch? Yeah, I've been feeling under the weather. the last few days so i went to bed early at 10 so i could even do this show uh so yeah no i didn't watch anything i just watched the parades this morning which were cool fair enough uh lucive rock show doom game power through tech by secret wars oh okay and then oh i think that's why i think everybody puts something on top show doom game power through tech by secret wars then have galactus literally smack him into oblivion doom realizes tech alone won't do it and goes down through the w i strange path becomes God, Doom. I guess it's kind of the breakdown of how to introduce Doom to

Fantastic for it. I'm excited to see how they're going to do it. I'm curious how they're going to do it. And then he kind of follows up again. But if Battleworld is the final planet, Galacticus would need to consume it. Also, general audiences would accept Galactus as a bigger threat than Thanos due to scale. Look, you can accept anybody as a larger villain as long as it's written well, as long as they're put together and you care about it. Any of the casual audience, as long as it's not overcomplicated, which Marvel has been doing. which is why I think this year away from it, other than Deadpool, is so smart because they've got to re-calibrate what they want to do with this. And so they'll have time now to kind of plan this out.

Tim, to be fair, the first Superchat was given before hearing the first story that Disney was on the biggest office was. That's fair. Totally fair. I kind of assume that, too, Tim. And Robbie Rob would love to see the Jurassic Park go back to the time frame to the first one. I make it more of a lower budget horror film with someone stuck on the island after everyone left. could not agree with you more. That could work really well.

It would work wonderfully. Murr, Toronto. What do you guys think about the Chris Jericho accusations? I don't know about the source, but Kylie Ray, liking the tweet is telling. This goes back to my Twitter conversation. I said, in the same way that I talked about Jonathan Majors, let's find out details first.

Before you start throwing rocks at people, before you start, I'm not saying don't believe people. I'm not saying believe people. I'm telling you to wait for things to come out before I saw people running out and start saying, if you, Jericho, this just, I don't know anything. Yeah. I don't know anything. I don't know.

I know what some people are saying on one side of it. Haven't heard his case of it yet. Haven't heard other people's cases on the other side of it. I don't know anything. So I don't talk about it. And I don't tweet about it. And I don't start saying things on Twitter. Let people, people who really know what happened, well, stuff will come out.

It is not. We are not a. fucking jury. Maybe there will be a jury, but I'm not part of it. You're not part of it. And stop doing stuff on Twitter, whether you're yelling at other people saying, this is bullshit, blah, blah, you don't know. Whether it's defending Chris or whether it's going after him, you don't know until you do, I won't say a fucking thing. I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it. Yeah, you have to stay open-minded and you have to look at what all the as you said evidence and details that

come out went and liking a tweet is not enough and you're going to have to have more more people coming out let's hear the whole story let's hear from Chris and then we all can make our own minds up everything's like fine jumping the gun just doesn't make any sense that's what happens all the time dude it happens all the time one person says

this person farted on my face on New Year's Eve what you farted your face? I was just kidding and you really do it oh sorry and I'm not saying that these accusations aren't true they very well might be but i don't fucking know right and you don't know either so stop doing stuff on twitter and saying you're lying the juror didn't do this or you're telling the truth jericho this you don't fucking know yeah don't know i it's all it drives me nuts simon section are any of you planning to do an

reaction episode of echo i actually think i'm going to try it yeah i'm gonna see i'm gonna see if people if people dig it um in the same way that i did uh uh uh one piece. And if it works out, then I'll keep doing it. But if not, then I'll probably just do a review. Oh, man, you guys are coming in hot today. Haskell 420, get your creative mind on it. Be at any MCU phase, not seen yet. What's a what if episode you would like to see and need to see? Would you want a Star Wars? Well, that's how I was going to answer your question. I would want, I'm, I kind of am done with the Marvel, what if. I haven't seen, I mean, I want to finish season two. I heard it's great. But I want to see, I shouldn't say I'm done with it. But I'm, I'm looking.

looking forward to them continuing it, but I want to see a Star Wars, What If? To me, a Star Wars, What If? I have countless amount of ideas of things that I'd love to see. So I don't know what story I'd like to see it because I might have done it because I haven't seen the whole season yet. But John, do you have a question there? What if Tom Cruise was Iron Man? I would love to see. We have that. Do you know we have a video of that? Do you? We made a what if video of Tom Cruise on our Shmo's channel. Yeah. During 2016.

That's awesome. Well, I'd love to see what if with Tom Cruise getting him to voice his version of whatever that character was going to be. And that would be an interesting episode to see what if that character became Ironman instead of Tony Stark. So yeah. But Star Wars, what if? Hell yes. Yeah, please. The Raven effect.

Happy New Year, Christian and John. Thank you. Looking forward to New Year movies, reviews, discussions. You guys give it the good work. Thank you, Raven. Very, very kind of you. And we're excited to continue on. Armada, I'm scared Marvel is going to crowbar fantastic four.

an exman just for fandom sake. They already set up so many new characters they have to utilize to wrap up the phase of thoughts. I mean, I understand skepticism right now with them. It's like in the same way as for the fifth sports analogy, it's like your team's not playing the players you want them to play or they're not implementing the right lineups.

They're not winning the games. They should be winning. And you're like, come on. Let's get the coach. You've got the assets. Let's use the team the right way. So I understand it.

But when the team starts winning, you're back on board. So I just want the team. team to start winning again. Yeah, and, and like, we got to give them a chance to do this. And how many people say, oh, they're rushing this or they're taking too much time? And then the product comes out, and you're like, God, this was great. And so you just never know, and you got to trust that because they've given us so many great phases that they are going to figure things out and deliver it. And judge it on what they deliver. And then if it's great, then, you know, why did you worry about? And the crowbarring thing, they're going to have years before

this stuff comes out. It's not coming out next year, for God's sakes. Right. It's coming out for a while. I mean, but 2024, it's not coming out for a while. So I give him time. Sol Torres, do you think that Huerta might be back his name or even with the allegations? It goes back to the conversation we just had with Jericho. You know, it's like, let's see what happens first. And they don't have to, they have so many different plans. They don't have to write him into anything at the moment right now.

So they're probably similar to what they had to do with Jonathan Majors. They're probably just waiting to see what transpires. Because what I do think Marvel did well was that they waited. They didn't, they didn't do the thing where they just said, he's fire. They waited. So anyway, what do you think about that, John? You think he'll be back? Yeah, and there's questions around that one.

So there's a lot more to that one, I think. And so there's going to be, I think that one's not going to be weighed as much as majors. I think it all just depends on how they approach it and look at it. And do they want to use Tenor Schwer? Because remember, that film wasn't necessarily the greatly received overall critics-wise. So we'll see if they even want to use name more again. and down the road. Just a very kind super chat from Philly G.

Thank you, Philly G. Appreciate it. Let's see. Could be just my opinion reviews. Thank you, just my opinion. Thank you for being fair about the accusations, respect. I mean, I just think it's a common sense thing right now. You got to find everything out.

So like I said, if it turns out, like I've worked with Jericho. I've spoken to Jericho. I've texted with Jericho three months ago. And if it turns out that the accusation, are real, well, then he's got to do his, he's got to do his, his, his, his, his, he's got to, he's got to, you know, he's got to pay for what he's done. He's got to, like, 100%. But I also say that you've got to, no matter who it is, you've, like, you've got to listen to everything before you just start roasting people on social media. It's just, it's, it's, it's, it's the problem with our culture. Squirtle master canobi. Godzilla minus one was possibly the best movie of 2023. It was incredible. It was the best movie of 2020. 100%. It's in my top, dad.

It's absolutely amazing. The King of Belize. Thank God we get the king here. Any other wrestling biopics you think we'll see at some point. What I'd like to see, I know that they talked about it, but I don't want to see it in the way

that they were going to do it. I'd like to see an actual non-WWE involved, which will never happen, biopic of Vince McMahon. Yes. With all the shit. With all the shit. I'd love to see that.

And I'd love to see, you know who we didn't mention? And he just started following me on Instagram recently. Oh, nice. And when he did, I said, I'm so mad I didn't mention him because he was so good, was the guy who played Harley Race in Iron Claw. Yeah, it was great. I knew he was a Harley Race from the second I saw him. He looked like him.

He moved like him. Everything about him. He wrestled like him. He looked. I mean, that's the kind of stuff you need in biopics like this. If you're going to do wrestling, you've got to get rid of that. that Flair type of nonsense. And like I think MJF was MJF playing Paul, Paul Orndorf? Yeah, he's playing one of the, yeah, he seemed like he was playing Orndorff. And he did that

very well. So it's just, whatever it is, it's got to actually for wrestling fans, because we talked to Dan, the flare thing didn't bother him. But for you and I, it drove us crazy. Oh my, yeah, it was insane. You got to come on. I know you respected it, but you were the wrong choice. And the reason people were talking about it is because this guy did such a great job with Harley Race, those guys did such a great job as the Free Bird. that's the reason people are talking about the flare one because everyone else seemed to really understand what they were doing and nail it and this guy didn't but yeah his Harley race was great I know that there was supposed to be a biopic or at least a movie about the Benoit stuff I know that would be I would love a savage one that's the one you got me too you got to do that be a good choice plus the ending is so tragic yeah and I'd love to see a savage one do you think the Marvel TV show have made the marvel franchise more accessible to the mainstream audience also you'll covering the 2024 tv shows yeah i'll be doing the anticipated tv shows which we're probably with

roxy um that might even be the full episode for this thursday um but as far as the marvel shows no i actually think the opposite i think that by putting too many out and asking people to catch up on that much uh actually through the audience member the casual audience going that's that's intimidating yeah you know when dan and i were doing the star wars review for the of Boba Fed. That's something Dan mentioned. Why do we have to do all this homework to watch this series? And initially, I was like, well, that's what they're asking you to do. You got to do it. But clearly, a lot of people feel like, no, I don't have to do it. And I don't want to do it. It's not making me feel like I have to do it. So I think the Disney shows work for the people who are

hardcore, Marvel people and want to see everything. But for a majority of the mainstream audience, it was too much. So I think it actually, you're right. I think it had to push people away rather than bringing them in. Well, speak about bringing people in. You guys are great today, man. Thank you for all the wonderful questions. Very kind of you to join here today. Very kind of Roka to to join us on the show today on New Year's. Happy New Year to everybody. John, happy new year to you. Where can the, where can the good people find you? You can always find me on my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roka says. Just type in the outlaw nation, John Roka. If you don't remember the address, and I'll pop up. And I got the hot mic there, which with Jeff Snyder and

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