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Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Kang was supposed to be the big bad of the MCU moving forward. Then legal troubles for Majors and lack of interest in the character lead to a change in plans. Tere is a new report on what is next for Kang. There are also reports of a potential reboot for the MCU after Avengers? Catwoman series not happening after all? Information Bob in the Thunderbolts movie. Daredevil and Wonderman news. This and more on the Capes and Cowl Kristian HArloff live show edition. #mcu #marvel #kang #multiverse #dc #dcu #penguin #sophia  MANDO: Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that's over 40% off) with promo code KRISTIAN at http://www.shopmando.com #mandopod  AG1: Every week of November, AG1 will be running a special Black Friday offer for a free gift with your first subscription, in addition to the Welcome Kit with Vitamin D3+K2. So make sure to check out http://www.DrinkAG1.com/BIGTHING to see what gift you can get this week! That's  ROCKET MONEY: http://www.rocketmoney.com/THING TUSHY: Over 2 Million Butts Love TUSHY. Get 10% off TUSHY with the code BIGTHING at https://hellotushy.com/BIGTHING

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There's a rumor going out about Kang. He's supposed to be the big bad of the MCU. Well, there's new rumors about what his role might be. There's also rumors about a potential MCU reboot. There's tons of stuff, man. That Penguin spin-off series with Catwoman. Is that supposed to? be a thing that happens? Well, there's a new report that says, no, it's on the shelf. So we'll talk

about that. There's tons of stuff that came out. And we even talked about Denzel in Black Panther 3, basically confirming Black Panther 3. So we'll discuss that. And then Winston had a really cool experience with Ultraman. And he was able to check this whole thing out and went up to ILM or Lucasfilm and checked out the screening of this series on Netflix. And I'm excited to see his whole, he interviewed some of the cast and we're going to show you guys that stuff too. So it's myself, Winston, and Koi here on the Christian Harlov show. It is Capes and Cowles. Let's do it.

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back. It's Capes and Cowes. It's myself. Coy Chantreau Winston A. Marshall Get the longer version of the song today. I like it. I like it a lot.

Yeah, go ahead. The longer that I had to, you mentioned the trip as I was editing out all the interviews, man. I put it in there. And I was like, the whole song goes hard. Oh, yeah. Like, our theme is so good.

It was great. Well, it was originally attended for, it was Mark Riley's theme song at the Shmodown. and he used it once and he lost lost the title I think so he never used it ever again so I was like there's two themes that actually happened there was so for my down to earth

channel that I use there's a great theme song David B did and it's perfect for the for the show but it was originally Griffin Newman's theme song and he used it like once in the Shmodeon and I don't waste that song that song's awesome I use that so anyway we are back here we got lots to do

Steph has been really moving. She's been kicking, but she went last week. Her and Roka with 200 plus questions. Roka decided to say, hey, you know what? I'm going to start our strong. 80 plus questions. Roxy couldn't catch him. Steph said, hold my beer.

93 questions yesterday. And she once again has taken the lead, but she leaves it up to you guys. Can you guys do it? Well, that is the question. Starting off a little slower. We got four questions in the tank as we are moving. the first topic of the day. And did you guys hear this story,

this Kang stuff yet, Coy? I've not heard it. All right, so you're going to hear it. No, neither one of you guys has. Great. So let's get into this story and then we'll get our opinions on it. And there is a rumor.

Now, the Avengers, rumor. Now we're reporting on rumors. Yes. Remember the rumor that Downey might actually play Doom? You guys said, why are you reporting fake news?

What happened a week later? So I kindly ask people who are going to write that. I ask as nicely as I can, to shut your ass. All right, here is the next story. Avengers rumored new details on Kang's future, the Fantastic Four Villains, and the MCU reboot, possible spoilers. We have even more big MCU rumors to share with you today. This time, revealing what the future does or doesn't hold in store for Kang the Conqueror, the Fantastic Four First Step villains, and more. The Multiverse

saga hasn't taken off in the way Marvel Studios probably hoped. Still, Still, still, despite what some would have you believe, the studio has delivered more hits than misses. Even so, there is a real sense of multiverse fatigue among fans and movie. Now, they're rushing to the finish line. Avengers Doomsday and Avengers Secret Wars, Jonathan Majes' legal issues and subsequent firing, and the tepid response to Ant Man and the Waspontomania also changed things. meaning returning Robert Danny Jr. will be the MCU's new big bad as Dr. Doom in place of Kang the Conqueror.

According to the Cosmic Circus, the Marvel Studios hasn't fully closed the door on Kang just yet. He's been sidelined, but is gone for now. Now, it doesn't mean that character can't be brought back later on down the road in some capacity, but if they do, chances are they're going to recast the character if they want to keep him as a villain or go with the Iron Lad route and use a younger actor to become Nathaniel. This was to be expected as plans for the TVA might have been similarly scaled back as the sites Alex Perez has heard. We won't see the organization again until Avengers Doomsday. As for the MCU's supposed post-Secret War's reboot, Perez has been told that the world will continue as if nothing happened.

The multiverse will begin anew and some changes will be added in which we'll have ramifications later on. This will likely be how Marvel Studios brings the Fantastic Four and X-Men to, to Earth 616, though we previously heard that he who remains created the sacred timeline intentionally without a plot thread which might have been scrapped now that he's a non-factor. We expect Dr. Doom to make his MCU debut in the Fantastic Four first steps post-credit scene, but what of the team's other villains? Well, if this rumor is to believe, the film's first act has some sort of rapid montage of the Fantastic Four going up against multiple low-level villains from the repertoire of rogues.

moleman is one of them. That sounds just so unintimidating. Marvel Studios established a 1960s era of Fantastic 4, only for future adventures to take place on Earth 616 in the present day. See, and yada, yada, yada. All right, the main stuff is, to me, is the Kang stuff right now, right? And the first part of it is,

we knew from the way that they kind of set up Loki season 2, or ended so Loki Season 2, rather, that they left it where, yeah, he could return. turn he might not return and then there was all these rumors of and I always messed this up and he's such a great actor and please correct me from wrong it is Domingo Coleman Domingo. I said I was just going to say Coleman Domingo and I said no I always say Coleman Domingo and I always do it's it's Coleman Domingo I always get it wrong I knew that damn easiest way Domingo obviously uh forgive my Spanish D either Saturday or Sunday I believe it's Sunday right yeah last day of the week Coleman think of it that way that's always his last name still gonna not remember that's Coleman Okay.

Coleman Domingo, who was a fantastic actor, and I need to remember it because he's great and he deserved that respect. Coleman Domingo was heavily rumored to be recast as, I don't think those were false. I think that was a real conversation. I think that that got really, really close to where they said, look, here's the deal.

We need to figure out a little bit of time here, because if we just go and throw you in there, we're doing you a disservice. If we just put you in there right now, But if we wait and then we bring in his Kang down the line, the wounds are not fresh anymore. And everybody's like, it's fine. It's over and done with at this point. I think he does show up again.

I do think it is going to be Coleman. What do you think, Koi? I think he's incredible. And some of the rumors are louder than others. So like with that rumor, I feel like we got a lot of decent sources on it. And he seems like the right type. He definitely seems like the. way Marvel cast where someone's about to be a huge star, like Coleman Domingo's and inside L.A.,

like we all know the name, but I feel like he's not a household name, which is the perfect time to cast someone in that role. And he has the clout and gravitas to still be the important role of Kang as maybe being something that Doom takes on to show his strength. So I like the idea of still having Kang B. L. presence. That said, if they don't bring Kang back, I do like how it ended with Loki. So the only way I want Kangback is if it's someone worthy like Coleman Domingo. What do you think, Winston? I mean,

that is the caliber of actor that you want to bring to it because the one thing that nobody ever said you know Winston, sorry, do you have stuff open on your, on your browser? No, it's just this, but let's see

if there's something I can fix. I don't know. All right. All right. All right. All right, continue. Okay. So all I was going to say is you needed a caliber of actor that is Jonathan Majors. And because nobody was saying that his acting obviously was the problem. It was one part storyline, one part his legal drama.

So if you're going to recast him, which I don't think abandoning Kang was necessarily the right move, but I see they could do that for, they did it from a business standpoint of maybe we should just move on. You're got to bring him back in. Coleman Domingo, an Oscar-nominated actor, like a thousand, Academy Award nominated actor is a thousand percent the caliber of actor you bring in, and he would absolutely crush it. I have no doubt in my mind that if he ended up in that role, he would do just as good, if not better,

and bring the kind of just lethal, like, mastermind to King as he is. So I think that that would be an awesome casting choice if they end up going that route. Yeah, I do too. And I, but I think we're all in agreement that it'll probably be a little bit because you don't want to, you just don't want to do that to him. You put him out there right now and you don't necessarily need it now that you're focusing in on, on Dr. Doom and Downey and all that. You're really going all in on this. Explain to me why I should be intimidated all by someone named Mole Man. So Mole Man is the first fantastic four villain.

It's more nostalgia, I think, than actual fear striking. he leads a bunch of mole men underground but he's a very of that era 60s villain it's more of the excitement for fans to see like that first comic cover he created fantastic four number one was an iconic mole man cover i think it's friend of uh the show friend of the schmose uh paul walter hauser i think is going to play moleman but um i just because he was rumored to be part of the cast way back in the day and then the moleman rumors now i'm like wait a second maybe one plus one is two I also would love if he's the voice of Herbie. But I think that there's going to be a montage, like they've said, of different villains.

And Mole Man is cool enough for a moment of nostalgia, but definitely not a big bad to be a villain of a movie. So it's kind of a perfect way to bring him in. He's not. But Christian, I'll put it to you this way. I'm assuming other than the fact that they're just good movies just because of your kids, you've seen both the Incredibles. Yeah? Yes. So you remember the end of one and starting into two, the Underminer?

That was literally what they were kind of like making fun of. the idea of the fantastic four, the four family members, the four family members of the Incredibles, having to take out this dude that's throwing a giant drill through the city, things like that. Those are the kind of like, you know, 60 shenanigans that like, mole man is going to bring to the table.

So again, putting a Paul Walter Hauser in there, who I believe was also Academy Award nominated, wasn't he? Yeah, yeah, dude. So again, you're just bringing a ridiculous amount of talent to the cast if he ultimately does end up being moleman. and while it might be a little bit gimmicky, that could also be a way in which you, oh, wow, they saved the city.

Fantastic Four. Hooray! And then you can go on to more serious threats from that point forward. Yeah, I love Paul Walter Hauser, but I hate everything about what you guys just said. Well, we do think it's going to be an alternate universe, so I do think the 60s kitchiness is going to be a factor. I do think it's going to be intentionally like, you know,

tomorrow landish. I don't know why, man. And maybe it's just because I'm, It's recency bias and I'm coming off of the penguin, but you start telling me about mole man and that type of stuff. You're converting me into a DC, a hardcore DC fan way more than because I've been saying for the last two years, I am, I and this isn't to disrespect where Disney or Marvel is. It's just we've done so much with Marvel in the last 15 years. I am much more excited about the next few years of DC's future. And the Downy Doom thing is definitely a step in the wrong direction of my excitement.

And so DC, I was already more. And then you add the Downy choice. I'm, I'm, you're not, I don't disagree with you. I'm with you. Because, like, it's just a matter of like, I'm way more. If you're like, okay, you can only see Superman or Fantastic Four, Superman. You can only see, you know, Raven the Bold or, or I guess, lanterns, or what's the net, or Ironheart, lanterns. No, that's a bad comparison.

It would be lanterns or daredevil, be if you're talking about. Sorry, that's fair. That's fair. Okay, fine, fine. That's true. Lantern's a daredevil. That's a much better comparison. I was the first one I thought of what they came out. Which is fair. Lanterns and Daredevil, which is a tougher choice. So it's a much better example. I would say out of the two of those, I'll probably take Daredevil. To be honest with, the other one, I, even, I'm talking about how much I'm D.C., but Daredevil is one that I definitely want to see. So all right, Daredevil wins that one. But it's all because of the same reason, because of the more serious hardcore tone, right? So it was a great example, and that's why I hope Marvel goes that route. But the reason why I brought up Ironheart is because it's more of the kind of typical Marvel stuff that they've been doing, you know, with that kind of tone. But if you tell me Supergirl or Thunderbolts, I'm going Supergirl.

Like I know it's a different year, but like I am more excited for Superman, Supergirl and lanterns than I am most things but Daredevil. Yes. And even the humor, even the humor, though, like you take peacemaker. I'm going to take Peacemaker off most of the shows on Marvel right now. And maybe it's because it's new and it's fresh and it's different. And what Winston was or Winston & & & & Quay were both saying is that we just have seen so much Marvel stuff. But I'm over the goofy stuff that they do in Marvel.

I'm over it. I mean, you guys don't have much of a problem with it. But like that singing, no, no, no. I'm talking about the Marvel, the Marvel singing planet. I wanted to smash my head against the seats in front of me. I saw that with Frank Jan. and I could not believe that that's where we were going now. And I don't want to hear about it.

Well, that's just the planet they were on. It was so stupid. It was so stupid. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was clear since they ended up, like, keeping a piece of it and not doing it, that, yeah, it didn't fit the way that it properly should have. We've all agreed on that at a certain point. But, but I would say this much, yes, I think the idea of starting brand new, having

faith in James Gunn, like all of that does. kind of lean most people. Plus, we've, for a lot of people, you obviously have the diehard Snyder fans that got everything that they wanted, but for a lot of people, we haven't gotten a Superman, a Batman, that we necessarily have been like, yep, that's exactly where I align. So I think even having that too is Corey and I have talked about multiple times, you know, not that we dislike Man of Steel, but just wanted to see a different version of Superman of how we kind of perceive the character. Yeah, there's a lot to be liked there and with the bad taste in our mouths of quantumania of love and thunder right that also is over there but i i think the thing is the one thing i will say about moleman

specifically just because he kind of came in and maybe that was our fault for doing that and probably because both of us haven't necessarily followed the character a whole lot he's been a part of some really interesting and like effed up stuff i did like a real quick just deep dive to remember just to go through stuff. And, like, he's been out here fighting everything from, like, the Hulk to jime in and been, like, a serious threat because he's got, like, a whole army of subterranean, like, like monsters and mutants that are out here destroying the city. I brought up the Incredibles to give you what that connect was as far as what the Incredibles was

doing. So he doesn't necessarily have to be crazy, funny. You might get the wall, uh, the Paul Walter Houser like Cobra Kai. Yeah. But you remember how in the same breath when it got serious, sometimes he was doing some serious apt-up stuff and he's really good at that he's really good at that and like and so just to be clear about it too we just did a reaction because sam has never my friend sam has never seen any of the mccu stuff so we just released iron man today um and we and there's really good humor in that mixed

with some darker moments you know like the guy gets basically his heart destroyed by trattel you know it's so there's there's a lot of stuff inside of that that was a good balance it's not a matter of just having humor in a thing i don't want people to think like, oh, you don't want any humor, you just want it all to be dark and depressing? No, I want, I definitely want humor, but it's like, when does it, it does it overpower it? That's the biggest issue with it. And Marvel has done that tremendously. You know, it did a good balance of it, I thought it was, and I was worried about it, was Agatha, right?

I thought Agatha was going to be, because Agatha's tone, it never told you it was going to be anything different than it was. It was, and I think Steph said this the other day, and it was more of an example of Star Wars, but it's like when something is pitched a one way and then it's delivered a different way, that's when you lose me, right? Because the Marvel's trailer, when you saw the Marvel's trailer, it wasn't as goofy as the movie was. There were some other things inside of that trailer that I was like, oh, this could actually be a pretty good thing.

And it wasn't. It was terrible. I personally struggled with the humor in the first half of Agatha. I like the rationale by it by the end. Like personally, just my experience. Maybe that's what I'm talking about, the ending delivered for me. Yeah, the ending delivered enough that it retroactively made it more approachable and and totally appropriate. But to be honest, like Agatha and that experience for me was is one of the reasons.

Like DC, I've read DC almost as long as I've read Marvel. I grew up. I learned to read the Spider-Man, but not long after I picked up Batman and went for it. But during the Snyder era, it wasn't a place I enjoyed commentary. It wasn't a thing that I enjoyed talking about because I just didn't find it worth the time. to deal with the bots and the trolls. And there are both. And then there are DC fans that are enjoying it, but they're not as loud.

So I just didn't like talking about DC, but Agatha, I started to get that with more than I personally, if I'm not going to enjoy the, oh, dude, Agatha fans are way worse than than they're on par with Snyder fans, but with one show. What happened? They just, they accuse me of being a bigot and anti-LGBQ and hating women and being racist. show because I didn't like a show with women I hate women and because I didn't like a character's portrayal I must hate everyone that doesn't like women we talk about that guys we talk about that all the time the extra like I I really push back against people who think that the people who are going after

you are the good guys right because like you're not you're not the good guys you're as bad as the hateful ones you're as bad and and I was very respectful and kind about my dislike I explained the campiness not being my town but my whole point being I'm excited for DC because it is new and fresh and there isn't a built-in, I mean, there's going to be a built-in rage fest because of the old regime at times. Like, there's a certain group of people that are so invested that they use their passion for evil. But I really struggled with Agatha because I thought the average Marvel fan was better than that. But it is, it's 15 years now. We've, we've, we've become such a big thing that comic fans are vitriolic. And that's hard for me.

I think the ultimate thing. I don't know. We're getting a little off-top. of where we started, but just to address that, because I think it's insane. We've gotten to such a place just as a society, period. And we've, we obviously all talk about it in terms of what we are here, but like watching even the debate with Star Wars, where you have people that genuinely are bigots and pieces of crap and are trying to troll. And then you have people that are super, like you said, that would have fallen kind of in the agatha camp.

And you then don't have space for the people in the middle for nuance that go, no, I genuinely like it for these reasons or I genuinely dislike it for these reasons. Because those people automatically get dragged into one side or the other. You get, no, you get attacked absolutely. Like when you go, I can't even tell you when we're talking about the acolyte, I had if, if there were times, there's, I'd say more times than not, I didn't like the stuff in the acolyte. Right.

So anytime I didn't like women, I didn't, the same thing you got for, for Agatha, right? I was misogynistic. I was this because it didn't. And then if I liked a moment in it. Oh, the Disney show. The Disney show, I guess he got his invite to Galaxy's Edge finally. Once I started liking Agatha. Not the self-bird.

I literally got comments that, oh, you should have liked it earlier once I started liking it. So even the people that wanted me to find my way in started being mad that I didn't like it before. And it was so exhausting just for my experience of talking about it that I wanted to stop watching it. And that kind of defeats the purpose of like whatever you're trying to do. and the people that are saying there aren't a lot of shows about lesbians. I want that for lesbians, but that doesn't mean the show is critic proof. If there's a flaw I have that has nothing. That was the thing I got from Agatha.

That stuff that I got from Agatha in the beginning was when I said that it's not, it wasn't tailor made for us. It wasn't aimed at us. And I still stand by that. It wasn't. And like, I don't know why you're saying that. It's like, yes,

it wasn't. It doesn't mean I can't enjoy it. It doesn't mean Koi can't enjoy it. And clearly he did by the end of it. It doesn't mean that. that Christian love is blind does not tailor made for me and I love that show things happen sometimes it's not meant for a crowd right for another crowd but you can find reasons why you like people get upset people get upset to go oh that guy he's a he's a he's a bro guy so he of course

he doesn't like it I never said it didn't like it I said it wasn't aimed like my wife when we were watching together there was some moment and she's like oh this is really made for the machos of macho men and and people comment and then I can't believe she She said that. Blah, blah, blah. It's like, why? It wasn't. It's like when you go into a boardroom for these people like, okay, who is this, who we actually,

who do we want to hit first? Who do we want to make sure that we hit and then cast the net? You know, who do we want to do? And they go, okay, this is who this show is for. And what they did smart, what Ackleite did terribly, was they didn't spend $230 million. They spent the least amount of money of a Marvel show because they said, all right, we are going after a specific audience. We want them to get it first if they do.

and then it cast out a bigger net and it was successful after all. It built. And I was so happy for that audience to get a show for them and that doesn't mean I shouldn't review it. It doesn't mean that because it's not my demo, it shouldn't be touched by us because then you're not expanding your audience. Then you're staying closed-minded. So I was happy for that audience,

even when I wasn't enjoying it. But then that audience got mad at me for publicly saying I didn't enjoy it, which don't watch the stuff then. So the reason, the whole point is I'm excited for DC because it's a new set of fans. It's a new experience. And it's a new. take on characters I love that I've been waiting for for however long it's been since,

uh, you know, the Nolan era. Like the Nolan era, I talked about Batman as much as I talked about Marvel because that was the only DC character that was to scale. I'm excited for all of these characters to get their time to shine. And I'm excited for people to discover them anew because it's been a long exhausting run for a bit for both companies. Uh, totally great. So put you guys thoughts in there. Tell us about all this stuff that whether it comes to the humor in or whether it comes to to the fandom stuff, whether it comes to Kang, coming back, where do you stand on all of it? All right. Currently, guys are at 13 questions.

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That's how you help yourself out. Talk about helping out. Man, Winston was really, really nice. I asked him, I said, hey, dude, got this opportunity to go check out this Ultraman in San Fran. Our friends over at Netflix said, hey, you guys want to check it out? I said, yeah, I do want to check it out. But I wasn't able to go.

I said, Winston, I know this is the type of stuff you love me. and you want to check it out and he did and he talked to the cast he went to san fran and so it was a really great trip so i'm going to show you guys that and then we'll talk about it afterwards check this out here it is all right apparently we're not getting sound on this so um i don't let's see i thought i had something working there it looked like the levels were coming in so huh okay let's see this is why i needed to check. I did check it before and it was working fine. So I will try it one more time. I know in the very beginning you're not going to hear, you're not going to hear the sound and hopefully when the sound, if the sound does pop in, say yes. But here we go and try it.

And if not, I'm going to have to just air it separately. Forget it. Or as they say in France, fuck this shit because I'm tired of it. I need a motherfucking sound engineer. I need somebody. I'm trying hard. It's been it's been better. We've been doing better. We've been doing better. with stuff but i'm i'm i'm fucking tired of it guys i'm fucking tired of it so winston and coy are taking a break right now because i told them to um so let's see this fucking sound thing broke down the what is it the roadcaster so i have this old one so that's what happened let's see i mean make sure that i have everything else um that i want to make sure that i have all these different levels now hold on It's messed up the whole show. Check, check, check, check. All right. So that should be good. Let's double check that. And turn everything off. So I'll have to do this whole change again. Hold on. All right. That should be it. So I'm going to let them know to come back. All right. So let me get Koi back in here. I think he is back in here. I think he is. He's back on it. Let me just unmute him. All right. Yeah, I tried to get it to work. Coy. It just wasn't working.

and now you're not are you muted again now i can't hear you either it's so good it's perfect it's great so is your sound i am three seconds away from just saying that's that was the show today um you can hear me but i can't maybe if you pop back in try to pop back in uh i am close to ending the show uh that i i i cannot stand when this shit happens it drives me crazy it really does so um all right let's see hold on and i'm going to double check we're going good up until this point so where is is he comes back in let's see if i can get coy in here and this whole thing i'll have to be edited out later so there we go yeah i might have to just call it a day um let me see if okay now i think i can hear you quite can hear me yeah now i can i can i can

I can hear you, but now. Amazing. Now, let me see. But now I've got to put you back into the thing. Okay. Hold on. Okay. I'm just going to have to run Winston's bit as a separate thing.

Yeah, it's a cool, like, segment. Okay, where are you? There you are. Okay. So I got you back. So let's just do that. We'll do a, let's do a, a, okay, one.

Um, I mean, yeah, we can talk, about it quick until Winston gets back, I guess, too. But it was, and you know, your microphone is, you have, you have the shitty microphone again. You got to switch it. So, yeah, I really enjoyed it. I thought it was great. And, um, it, I really liked what they did with it for sure.

I thought it, I, it was great writing. It was brilliant storytelling. I don't want to spoil the whole thing, but it just, it just worked out really, really well. Oh, no. No, you're not. I can't hear you. I'm fucking over the shit, dude. I'm over it.

I heard you fine before with the bullshit microphone. Nope, can't hear you at all. Check, check, check, check. I can hear me, but I can't hear you. Check, check, check. No, I got you. I got you now. Okay.

I was saying I think it stuck the landing in a way that like it had to for how good the rest of the show was. But in a surprising way, because of how good the rest the show was. I think the landing, which I won't spoil just in case, was the last thing anyone that was comfortable with the show's tone was expected. because you know what needs to happen, but you don't have accepted. And I love that they really were that ballsy with a character that is a title character. So I was really impressed top to bottom. I think it stuck the landing away. A lot of shows in a genre don't.

And honestly, like the Matt Reeves epic crime saga with two installments is one of the strongest shared universes I've ever seen. Like I genuinely think if they keep letting Matt Reeves make one show between one Batman and they do like five of these, we have such a. an epic crime song like there's even a rumor and i don't know how how true it is because i don't know if they retroactively changed it but did you see that image that's going around online of uh julian rush's desk no what is it tell me so in the scene where she wakes up in his office after uh like that flashback and then like you you have a brief shot of the back of his desk there's a mask

that looks like a burlap sack and there's a glove that looks like scarecrow's glove and arkham it looks like he was scarecrow and i don't know if they're saving that for the bat name too or if they decided not to use that storyline but there is distantly scarecrow garb in julian russia's office interesting um let me see wincun can you hear you yeah i lost you too for some i don't know there i'm meeting my mic we're gonna have to air your um your piece separately because this sound wasn't working um yeah so here is uh this spin-off series okay the catwoman spin-off series is currently not in development, despite speculation that we might see a second the Batman spin-off series focusing on Selena Kyle, HBO and Max CEO and Chairman Casey Blois has revealed

that the show is not currently in the works. Despite Selena Kyle getting a mention in the penguin, it seems there are no current plans for another the Batman spin-off series focusing on Zoe Cravitt's take on the Dark Nights feline foe. In a great or little thing, Sophia Falcone is sent back to Orkham after Oscombe arranges to have her arrested. I'm sorry, listen. Despite initially appearing to, in the end, I did not want to leave Sophia with a level of hope. I don't want to get too many spoilers here.

But we've been talking most about it. Is there another story with a penguin? I guess basically this person confirms that there's no Catwoman series here, too. Do you think this is a mistake? What do you think they should do a Catwoman series? I think if they have Matt Reeves oversee and someone like Lauren Lefronk,

who was the showrunner writer. So Lauren Lefronk made the penguin and Matt Reeves made the universe. If they've got a thing where someone as passionate as Lauren Lefronk, or even if she is as passionate as Lauren Lefronk is for Catwoman, that'd be amazing. And Matt Reeves overseeing it, so the universe stays cohesive.

To me, it feels like Matt Reeves is kind of like Kevin Fagie phase oneing his Batman stuff, like giving notes, keeping it in continuity. And you hire these incredible creatives like Lauren Lefron, And if you do that, give me Catwoman because I love Zoe Kravitz. I love what Selena Kyle represent in this universe. I think exploring Bloodhaven would a great way to expand Gotham, even beyond Gotham, and make the Batman universe a little bigger.

So I think it'd be ideal, but it all depends on if someone is as passionate as those two in this universe. I think to that, yeah, I think to that point, like knowing, obviously that we're going with the storyline of Selena being, you know, a bastard Falcone. I think further diving into just how twisted and messed up the family is, which again, ends up being the through line. So the through line is here's Bruce and the Wayne side of the family and how that's kind of been affected in the movies. And then here's the Falcone, which is the other end of that coin, whereas the, you know, the Wayne family, obviously super rich, super influential, but very isolating to the flip

side of the falcons being super big, super influential, but super corrupt. And how that plays out, I think is a very interesting way to keep going back and forth and looking at this. So I would love to see it, but I also think, as I've kind of said, stop giving me, I know you got, you have to from a business standpoint, but stop promise me, promising me a bunch of things until you really are sure footed about stuff. So if you get kind of the end of the Batman part two production and you're like, yeah, and we know the story's kind of evolving like this, let's greenlight the catwoman thing and go, because that's kind of what happened with Penguin. The Batman came out. It was such a

blockbuster. So there were like a couple months later. And you're like a couple months later like you know collie killed that ish let's give him a show and here we are so i would rather you start to do that that you get to like the end of production on the batman two and go no this is going to work but give give her the thing i don't i don't need that right now i don't need that announcement i would say yeah i think you know just i don't need an announcement of it and i just i just want them to tell the best story and right now they're telling the best story so if they feel like it's not it's not something they want to do and that's real like because jeff Snyder apparently said don't believe the conversations

that it's actually they are in talks for it, whatever it might be. They have my trust right now. You know, it's like if they announce a show, they say, hey, we wanted to do that and we decided we were going to do that. Great. Sign it up. Do what you're going to do. At this point, if Matt Reeves like, hey, we're doing a kite man series. Okay.

Hell yeah. I was literally about, hell yeah. I was literally about to say if Matt Reeves said he wanted to do a condiment king show, I'd watch. Like, it's, it's such, like, I can find out it's going to take plays in a burger joint. Like I would be there because I trust him blindly. Yeah, me too. I'm, I'm on board with what he's doing right now because he's telling good stories. And that's not, that's him. Because the showrunners that ran the show were, were the ones that really were there. I mean, I talked to, when I was talking to Renzi-Files, he didn't even meet Matt Reeves. He hadn't met him. Like he's not, he was, he was, he was, he said he was very involved. And he was,

get, there were notes and everything's too, but he wasn't onset. He wasn't, it wasn't, that also, to me, that's the type of stuff. And I know people get exhausted with it. I get exhausted with, that I get exhausted with it too. But that's kind of like what Lucasville needs, right? Is where they need somebody that can be that entrusting and saying, look, here's my vision. This is what I really want to do. I trust you guys.

I hired you guys because I feel like you can bring forward this vision. Now go do it. And that's what Matt Reeves did. Matt Reeves said, oh, here, okay, here's my vision. Guys, this is the world I want to live in. You guys are the showrunners. Now go do it. And they did it.

And that's what's cool about like Matt Reeves having his universe separate of what the other DCU universe is going to be because then there's a controlled variable of what Matt Reeves, Batman is. And then you've got the James Gunn, Peter Safran, DCU, but James Gunn and Peter Safran are overseeing all of DC Studios. So they gave notes on the penguin. They gave notes going into the Batman too, but they're letting Matt Reeves do his own thing. So I personally really love that it gets to be separate, but have someone overseeing it, like you're saying, Lucasfilm could use, but there's a trust in the greater company on Matt Reeves so that someone like Lauren LeFront can make something so specific.

Yeah, I agree. Winston? You know, I think above all else, what the reason why you both, and myself included, have said that we're excited about seeing what the gun's going to pull off is kind of the same thing that that Reeves is doing over here with the penguin and like you said if this is if this is what's going to happen he's going to focus on his overall vision for the universe and his entry or entries it sounds like probably three solid entries and it's supposed to be that and i think yeah i thought you were i didn't know if you were laughing at that or if you're sneezing but if he's going to focus on his main three entries and then just make sure yes this aligns with my vision for

anything that's coming off of it, then as we have all now said in a round, that that is what we're looking for. That is typically how you would see any sorts of situations. Like I think about the 9-1-1 series, for example, where you had the main storyline that's going. And then Ryan Murphy was like, yeah, I like that and kind of passed off something to another showrunner to go run the Lone Star spin-off. That is exactly how you build universes spin-offs, whatever. You have your captain at the main ship. And then you start building. out your armada for lack of a better metaphor.

Well, what do you guys think? Should Catwoman get another show or a show? Or do you think, yeah, let Matt Reeves do what he's doing? Before we get to your questions, because we've got about 20 of them right now, which is great. Good start. Good start. This is something, as we mentioned beforehand with the Marvel shows coming out. Two of them are both Wonder Man and Ironheart. You've got a first still

featuring Simon Williams. And an MCU fan favorite, here is the Iron Heart stuff. Also, Marvel Studios has released the first official stills from Wonder Man, and they feature the hero alongside Trevor Slattery. We also have a new look at Ironheart and an updated cast list and synopsis. So Marvel Studios has shared another look at Wonder Man, one of Marvel's television most intriguing upcoming projects, starring Aquaman and Watchman Yaha Abdul Matine, too, as Simon Williams,

and we still don't really know what to expect yet from this one. However, in some newly released stills, the hero is shown suited up and a seemingly tense conversation between Simon and Iron Man 3. And Chung Chi and The Legend of the Ten Rings fan favorite, Trevor Slattery. Disney's press site confirms that the shot of Simon in the red suit and glasses is from episode 8, Wonder Man's finale. I think Wonder Man is eight episodes. I think it's an eight episode series. Marvel Studios head of TV streaming and animation Brad. Winterbaum said recently, it's a two-hander between two amazing characters, this odd couple of

Simon Williams and Trevor Slattery and you get a little bit of glimpse of that in this trailer. I don't want to go too much into the story details. It's very fun to see people speculating about what they think the plot is. That's part of the fun of it. So here's the pictures right now and this is what I will tell you then we'll get we'll get into it in a second too. I like a lot but the slattery part of it makes me kind of go back into that what kind of how goofy is this going to get because he gets a bit silly that character.

A new Ironheart still has all also been released alongside an updated synopsis and cast list. Set after the events of Wakanda Forever, Marvel Television's Ironheart pits technology against magic when Riri Williams, a young genius inventor determined to make her mark on the world, returns to her hometown of Chicago. Her unique take on building iron suits is brilliant, but in pursuit of her ambition, she finds herself wrapped up with the mysterious yet charming Parker Robbins, aka The Hood. The series also stars Lyric Ross, Alden Aron Reich, Regan Eliap, Mani, Montana, and Matthew

learn and a jy white um okay so those are do we get an actual there's some cut some image right there but what do you guys think about this you know the the the the plot of wonder man when let me start with you man so do you do you have any reservations with the trevor slattery being part of it only the only reason i say no is because depending on what wonder man story you're talking about the fact that he ends up at in hollywood that's that is that seems like a natural connect because the only other like actor that we've essentially connected to has been Trevor Slattery. So if you if you're going through that angle, that seems like a natural connection to that, I understand your concern. Is that the thing you wonder, Wonder Man's an actor?

Yes. Okay. Well, that makes sense. That makes sense that he would be, they'd be linked up. Okay. Totally depends on the universe. Some of them just straight scientists, but a lot of times an actor. So like all that being said, it because that's the way, the way, the way. that you're going, I'm okay with that, but I do understand the concern. I would say if we end up in a situation where we're closer to a Shang Chi than an Ironman 3 with him, that I think that that's okay as far as like, you know what I mean? But it just, it just depends on how that plays out. And then as far as Ironheart goes, you know that just because I really enjoy, I'm not saying that you didn't enjoy the actress or anything, but you felt that Iron Heart was kind of shoehorned into

what kind of forever. I was so enthralled by that character. and I genuinely do like the character of the hood a lot, which also might lead. We were told that that might also lend itself to Mephisto. I'm still very excited for that. So I'm here to see what's going on. I mean, look, unapologetically black as well, Yala Abdul Matin and Dominique,

I would love to see what they're going to do too. So there's also that. But yeah, I think it's like anything else. We're so on edge right now because we have been built up to be torn down too many times that until we get the ball rolling, everything is with a grain of salt. Yeah, I want to be wrong about Ironheart, right? Because, like, where I didn't really love the character, to be honest with it.

I thought, I thought they were trying to turn her into a TV star and turn her into this big thing. And I just, like, here's the difference. Yaya is a star. Total star. Very, very great actor, likable. I want to see a series with him. I don't know. My hesitation was like, okay, again, same thing I said.

It's going to be goofy. Doesn't matter who's in it. It's going to be goofy. And if it plays together well, I'm on board. I just wasn't intrigued by that character in Wakanda forever to say, oh, I can't wait to watch a full series with this person. I thought it was the storyline that was bothering you. So you just didn't even like the character. I, it didn't, the character wasn't extremely likable to me.

She was fine. She was fine. She wasn't, she didn't stand out. She didn't stand. It was like, it was like, hey, you're supposed to really like her. She's the smartest Tony Stark. Don't you like her? I want to see your own show?

I'm like, no. But when you hear Yahya is supposed to have his own show, I'm like, okay. I don't know what Wonder Man is, but I like him. Yeah, let's do it. Corey, how do you feel about all this? So Wonder Man, I think of this being a comedy. So it's actually directly what you spoke to earlier with Agatha, where you're like, if it's advertised as such, I'm cool with it.

And I think Wonder Man is exactly the tone I think of with Wonder Man. I'm also big on like Shane Black two handers where it's like, you know, a buddy cop situation and a buddy actor show is even more my jam because i tend to like actors more than cops so i think this is going to be my jam with the yaya of it all being the icing on the cake because you know like he's one of my favorite people like two interview to run into to the like he's the guy for me he's such a passionate guy he loves nerd stuff he's he is absolutely a movie star and then i've always really liked the trevor slattery twist uh i like think in ironman three it was a fun cheeky way to acknowledge a thing. So I don't think it's totally inappropriate for an actor-based

comedy to have that take on Trevor Slattery. So to me, that works. And then on the Ironheart side, I really, really like the character in the comic books. I really, really like every conversation. I've heard from Dominique Thorne about the character. And in my brief interactions with her, she speaks like a Brian Michael Bendis character, but I did not love the take I saw in Wakanda Forever. So it is a grain of salt that I'm going into that said, I love the trailer. The trailer I saw at D23 I loved and then the footage I saw in this like rapid 20 seconds of Medley, I remembered how much I loved D23. So I'm hoping my appreciation for Dominic Thorne for the character and for the trailer is what the show is versus I just feel like Wakanda Forever. It's a movie.

about death and mourning and loss and anytime comedy's in there that isn't Gallo's humor, it's going to feel out of place. And I think that the humor in that movie, it's not her fault that they gave her the role of Puck or Mercutio in the wrong play. I think it's a great point. Really, really good point. And the other side of it, what I don't want to forget, is that Ryan Cougar is involved in this.

And I heavily love Ryan Cougar. So if Ryan Cougar is helping telling this story, and feels like this is a character that really needs to shine. I want to kind of take my own advice and say, wait a minute, because I was talking to, I was talking about Matt Serra on his show, and he was like, he did not like Wakanda forever at all. And I, and I was like, well, you got to give him,

you got to give Ryan Cougar some props here, how fast he was able to, he had a whole script and movie ready to be playing with Chadwick. And then Chadwick, unfortunately, you know, he passed away, and it was, nobody and they said can he still make this movie and he's like i guess and not only are you working with okay now you have a timeline to try to figure out and get this movie out you're not only right you're grieving to your friend and yeah and all this what he did and then you got to try to figure

out okay now i have this character as you said i thought very well boy with with this humor in there and let's try to be funny right now and he probably didn't want to be funny at that and she was cast when Chadwick was with like they screen tested together. So she's playing the role as if it's a movie with Chadwick that with the humor of not mourning a man she knew. Yeah, it's a great point. If I have to guess what happened there, the only thing that kind of shifted going into like going to recruit her, for example, is I would venture a guess that there was the same thing where we're sending Shuri with, because you, you speak science together. So I send you with a coyer. And that probably did not change. And then you, you, so you would, like you said, if you kept everything else,

the same, you're like, okay, we got to really shift because we don't have Chadwick for this. So he's not fighting anymore there. She's not doing whatever, whatever. And they were focusing on the timeline difference. I genuinely think that scene did not change from what was probably the core script just based off of the vibe that it was giving, uh, like her introduction. And then everything else around it kind of had to play out the way that it did. So I, you, I can understand what y'all are saying about it feels different. than the rest of it because we mainly are talking about her intro scene i'm assuming right more so than anything i mean i just didn't like i just didn't think the anytime it was like one of these things

were when she when it was moving when the movie was moving and then she came on i was like i don't care about the storyline as much as i care about the other one because i i think what was probably supposed to happen and and i could even see knowing about the lost time situation i think shiry was always meant to be upset and to be angry and maybe angry with Chadwick or angry that her tech wasn't good enough to stop the snap from happening, whatever it may have been. And that Dominique, that, uh, um, uh, Rie was supposed to essentially be the mentee with Shuri as the mentor. And that's kind of how Shuri kind of refines her place. And I think they still try to keep that going forward, but because you now had to put the weight of Shuri and her anger at the center of the movie,

it was a little it was a little off balance to what it clearly was being set up to do that that's the vibe i was getting just watching how that was playing out i was like this feels like they were trying to do this but this feels a little off so that that that probably is why that's because they took something from the old that did not directly fit right kind of well but also going back to the point that that is making as far as time right like now as coy said i was sitting next to him when we watched this initial trailer or whatever it was a preview of this series and that was like Years ago. Years ago.

And but, but the reason I say that is because Ryan Cougar has had that much time to get this in a place that he wants to. I know he didn't direct. I don't know if he directed any of them, but, but he, but he certainly in the same way we were talking about Matt Reeves had that kind of, he was very involved. So I want to, I have the, I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt because that alone.

And I also, what, what I hope is I say to you guys look, man, I, you guys know more than anything. I was not into this character. But I'm changing my tune now. This character really works. That's what I'm hoping. I'm not pumped about it. I'm more excited about Wonder Man than I am Ironheart,

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stuff to do. Winston? Yeah, come on over at the Swaggy Blurred. That's on all socials, but specifically here on YouTube. I am going for my realistic goal of getting to 5,000 by the end of the year and we are moving that needle, which is kind of nice, man. The Blurt breakdown's been going really well, especially the ditty segments. I didn't know people really wanted to know about how sick this man is. So I've been covering a lot of that and what's been going on there. And what I'm excited about is hopefully by the end of this year, as I'm able to finally get a new computer, we'll be back on the whole streaming tips.

So then we'll be able to do live shows and things like that. So I'm very excited about that coming up. So definitely go over and subscribe. All right. Thank you, both of you guys. Excited to have you on here. excited to see the growth of the channels in general, obviously. And we have a lot of questions so far, but you guys still, you have a mountain to climb. So you guys are trying to beat Steph

and trying to get to, I believe it was 93. I'll double check that, but I'll believe it was 93. And right now you're currently at 25. So you got a, you got to, I think that they started to yesterday into the question section before they beat Roca. I think they started at 40. So we'll see if, if you can do it. Let's start with Ian D. Davis who says best MCU villain outside of Loki and Thanos I would say um killmonger it's killmonger I'd say killmonger he'd like it's is in so many ways a protagonist to some I love that character the fact the fact that he all all of the villains that have worked yeah in the MCU actually have a protagonist mentality whether and how they're presented uh like literally Infinity War as a

movie. There's a reason why at the end of it, it says Thanos will return. And then you shift back to the perspective of the Avengers trying to undo all that. Right. Killmonger is in a league in his own. And I'm just trying to think of any of the other classic MCU villains.

Maybe the Winter Soldier and Winter Soldier. Right. I just trying to figure his stuff out. But that's I give, but I give, that's the same reason I give Kilmonger the not over Loki because, and granted, there's more time to develop loki that he ultimately turned good i don't see him as a villain right i saw him in in avengers wife you if you put him up against killmonger only in avengers then you can have the argument right

but because he had more time to develop he's not really a villain i mean he was for a second i also i'm gonna go adrian tombs to be on my rushmore uh i think what they did with vulture was incredible blending the green goblin stuff and the vulture stuff i think uh that speech he gives in a car with the lights on his face is so terrified. And then the moment where he's like using verbs to trap Peter to get the glider to come in and crash everything. Like there's so many great villain moments. And I think Adrian Tooms is also a protagonist to some. He's literally just getting by, like scraping by like the rest of this.

I like that character. Honorable mention since we're doing that, if you're going Rushmore, my honorable mention will actually ironically be Green Goblin in no way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. what you're getting out of Defoe and not only bringing back what he did, but taking the camp out of it and actually making him so much more lethal and so much more insane and dealing with Aunt May and dealing with it. And I was like, oh, my God, he still got it.

And one of the best fights in the MCU. Yes, Winston, softball, villain of the year. Villain of the year. What did we have this? That's a softball? I just softballed you ditty and you missed it. Oh, because I'm thinking about fictional villains.

If you met real life, I said villain. I didn't say fictional. I said villain. All right. Here we go. Moist Gumption, just showing support.

And I'm trying to push Coy and Winston to a win today. All right. Let's see. Thank you. Thank you. Kenneth Colton. Director Dan Trachenberg said the predator will be the main protagonist in next year's predator,

Badlands. idea happy friday gentleman i'd like to see a movie where he's the when where the predator is the actual protagonist we've had him as the antagonist and so many different things like him trying to you know escape some other crazy villains that creatures and we've seen we've seen it ish but i'd like to see just a straight up a predator antagonist movie that's kind of cool bro i think would be actually kind of cooler than the idea of because i think about i'm you guys know i'm a huge dragon ball guy so the idea of you know the sayans or the viltramal it's this idea that you're part of this conquering, hunting species or whatever.

And you don't need to necessarily have the predator have a heart. But the idea of like, go murder these people and come back. And like, so he's real like gung-ho about it. And then he was like, oh, I actually have respect for this race or whatever's going on. That would be interesting as hell. Or even if it's like one against 100, you just don't know the evils the predator is done. So it feels like everyone against you because you're following the predator against all of these, even humans be cool. Right.

Yeah. Look, Tractorberg did a great job last time. so we'll see. Miguel Zane, just finished All-Star Superman. I liked it a lot. Two of my favorite issues is the Luther interview and the Bizarro world. Have you all read it? Thoughts?

Oh, All-Star Superman is fantastic. And that Luther interview is one of the greatest, in my opinion, Superman moments ever. This idea of having to have the duality of remaining Clark the whole time and stopping a prison break while also dealing with Luther and not letting him find out And does he know, like there's just so much happening at once. It is, if you haven't seen it, you can also check out the All-Star Superman animated movie,

which I think does a pretty good job of trying to take as much of that storyline as it can. It does the interview such justice. It's amazing. Yeah, All-Star Superman is the imagery that James Gunn used to announce the Superman movies. So clearly very, very much part of what's informing his take. Grant Morrison writing anything is always incredible. they're a genius and uh frank whitely art i don't love on every character but i'd really love in this story it's really vibrance and technicolor but it's broad and powerful highly recommend that run

the last thing i was just going to say about that too was just the idea of y'all know i feel some type of way about superman the the thing that i love about this is it makes him so human because of what he has to deal with throughout the whole thing all of a sudden now life has like a direct temporary feeling to it. So now Soups is so relatable of pocket listing things and things like that. Well, he follows it up, Miguel does with

also, have you read Lex Luthor Man of Steel by Brian Azarello? I love the portrayal of Luther here. Which aspects of Luther will gun include? Coy? That's one of my favorite Luther stories of all time. And fun fact, that is the main story that Nicholas Holt referred to in his portrayal.

It's the book he kept going back to in informing his take. I highly recommend it because it's basically a insight memoir into his methodology of why he hates Superman but it also shows how good of a business man and leader he could be if he didn't have that xenophobia

so it's really fascinating book about hate and passion yeah definitely check out Man of Steel Lex Luthor Man of Steel it's really good I haven't read it I know the story of it though and the fact that Holt did brought that up in a lot of interviews I was like oh he's gonna crush this Holt was I can't talk

too much about it but Holt was excellent in those for a two. Oh, nice. It's excellent in that. Fabio Rodriguez, do you guys think that the MCU should keep the X-Men in their own universe? I'm afraid that 616 is getting too crowded with Heroes after Secret Wars. I do, but you guys clearly, Winston, you don't. Not if I want to see an X, Avengers versus X-Men storyline, not if I want to see some of the most major storylines that have come including House of M or anything else like that. No, the X-Men need to be a part of it and they represent a very specific element of the world. It was always something that was kind of funny and a little weird, but just goes to show how

humans are kind of dumb. You have superpower beings running all over the planet already, but specifically, oh, you're a mutant? No, no, no, I don't F with you. Like, there is something very specific about that that I think would also find a way to anchor the MCU that it has not. not been anchored right now. It has been very all over the place because of the multiversal element. If all of a sudden it's brought back to the real world like that, plus it opens up an avenue,

I need them to be a part of it. I just think that handle it with care. Don't just throw it in there because you're trying to make money. Let me ask you a question now when it comes to that, you know, the Avengers versus X-Men, but in that comic run, aren't like the major Avengers in that run? They are, but there are ways that like Civil War was nothing really like what was going. Yes, it was you needed to register and the government and all that, but it was way more than 10 people. A lot of the people that were brought into that weren't necessarily the main focus of the Civil War storyline. Right. Like, as long as you get the key elements to it, which is essentially the idea of the mutants are seeing this as an opportunity to try and build their people back up.

And the Avengers think that the Phoenix Force coming at all is a massive threat. And so this argument of we're doing this for our people. we're trying to protect the rest of the world, but if we have to sacrifice for people at the same time, it's just a very interesting dynamic and seeing those two teams go up against each other, let alone people like Storm and Beast and Wolverine, who are both X-Men and Avengers,

having to kind of pick what side they're on at what a particular time, like all of that kind of comes into play. I agree. I also think we've gone too far. Like, I liked Krikawa, didn't love Kroka. And I feel like that's a great example of what it feels like to have X-Men, removed from everything. Then being on an island is fun for a little while, but I thought it

lasted too long, and that would be what it would feel like if the X-Men were in a separate universe, be like, okay, we're still over here. I think the whole point is the hypocrisy of a world that hates and fears the X-Men because of a gene variation versus like, oh, because you got bit by a spider, you're not as weird. I think that's inherently part of the conversation. So I think that a lot of people that are dumb enough to be bigots should realize how stupid that is. And I think that the perfect thing comics do is inform the stupid through shiny objects that, oh, wait, you've been a dumbass. So I think the MCU has done a really good job setting up this world.

They've informed through Miss Marvel, the world that hates and fears them is coming. We've got Thunderbolts, which is going to set that up. We've got a lot of that, like, we're about to enter an MCU that doesn't trust in heroes. I think that the less intelligent people need to be aware that they're dumb. I the last that was that was a closer I was gonna say the other thing too is I really like I've come around I didn't always like Cyclops like that I've come around to Cyclops the hero but when you talk about one of the greatest marble villains that ultimately came out because he was like I've had enough of this ish is Cyclops so the idea of allowing that to also bloom in it of itself where he starts off the hero and you eventually just push him and you can kind to a point he goes enough I think that that also could be a very interesting dynamic to bring into this and like what pushes somebody into the killmonger mentality we got that in like a truncated version of your dad died we're just going to jump ahead to stuff and you know way black people to treat it you're like fine i'm going to liberate everybody

what what if we got to watch that in real time all the way to the end of how you ended up here i think that that would be fascinating um all right next one before i just like before we even get to this guy's questions i have to ask because his name is tyson's chicken nuggies now i know that that's an actual brand of a chicken company doesn't make me think of the Tyson fight that's on tonight. Oh, it's a few hours away, dude. It's in two hours. What time is it start? He said few hours, few. Oh, I thought you said two. Yeah, five, uh, Easter, five Western. It starts five West. Oh, that's actually kind of perfect. My, my daughter is going to be doing, uh, Taekwondo in my office right here, probably going to, I probably want to do reaction to it, to be honest with it.

Although I cannot wait. No, they're probably going to show the undercard at eight, right? Uh, yeah, but I don't think it's a big card. I want to say, I want to say it's, because there was a bunch of people on stage with them, though. Yeah, they're not going to fight until like nine, 10 o'clock. Probably 10 o'clock. Yeah, probably 10. Predictions on that one, guys? If it's not rigged, Tyson is going to kill that little boy.

If it is rigged and there is a concern about it because there's like a glove, the weight change and stuff like that, then I think Tyson still wins, but they make it look like Jake is, is, hey, he really. is carrying the torch for boxing i think late era tyson is not the monster that that prime tyson was i think a couple of tyson's last fights obviously showed a different man but what i'm seeing is iron mike not late era tyson so his age might have grown but like i haven't seen shark eyes like that in in decades like that man is you see the slap demon see the slap oh the slap the toe that like toe step slap because have you ever seen that interview he talks about how weak his feet are. That's why he said he'd never do a UFC. He's got weak feet. So like I wonder how

intentional that was. I also like wonder. I, the slap is beautiful. Like I want this fight. The fact that he's back to crying in interviews like about like, I don't want to give this man, but I might have to kill this man. Did you see? That was the best. The interview with the little kid. Do you see it Winston? It was the best. It was what do you? What is your legacy? We're dead. We're dead. The poor little girl because the little girl asked if, if anybody out here has not seen what we're talking about Mike Tyson did an interview with this girl she couldn't be more than 13 14 14 years old and if that and so she asked him like so it's first of all she goes she's just cute little girl she's like she's like she's like thank you she's like thank you so much

for doing this in my generation getting a chance to see you what do you what do you what do you what do you think about your legacy is that I don't I don't believe in legacy there's no like no leg it's we're all dead we're all going to be dead and he's talking to and and the poor girl she'd go like well thanks for that answer it's a really really good answer I've never heard that I never heard that answer before. And he's like, we're all dust. We're all dust. We're all this is such a morbid.

Yes, but that's what's crazy. I don't like, Mike Tyson honestly has evolved into this, this person who really is here down to earth, like has talked about his regrets about how he acted in the past. I don't know if Jake realizes the, the door that he had sealed shut, Jake has kind of kicked over.

The man that came back from the dead. Like this version of Tyson was dead. Yeah, the only back. The only problem, the only problem, though, guys, is that he's 58 years old. He's 58 years old. So we did a show with, and it was the best thing that I heard so far. And actually, I don't think he said it on air. I think he said it off air.

But so I, so I, Cole, you're a UFC guy. So you remember, you remember the great Dean Thomas? Yes. So Dean came in yesterday to do an in-person interview with Matt, his their buddies. And it's a great. He's got to what, late 40s now? Yeah, Dean's, like, 45. Okay.

He's doing a lot of commentating. also and he's he's he's what a great dude he is um so he was talking to me he was look would you want to see emmitt smith play football right now i mean they've been doing they've been doing those commercials right but would you but would you but would you want to see him play against a 27 year old you know get tackled by a 27 year old uh linebacker right now right and right and it's like because it's a one-on-one fight thing it's it's a good point you know but the difference is tyson's just built differently but like the thing is though i i won't go so far to say that he's going to kill him you know if it's a not a fixed fight if it goes past the second round jake paul can really win this

fight well and yeah just endurance of like 10 minutes of being in that level of pure perseverance Tyson's, yes, two rounds. Tyson's going to throw a lot of big punches in these two rounds, right? He's going to throw some big punches. And what Tyson did in that era, you're talking about the later era Tyson, he would just try to head hunt with big punch. When he first started, it was combinations, it was moving. He can't do that anymore.

He's almost 60 years old. He's going to throw those big power shots. And the problem is that he has always been, he can't catch the person, he gets gasped and he mentally gives up. Yeah. And he's so fast, but you're only so fast for so long. That's right. Which is why I'm curious.

I'm honestly curious if knowing that the endurance thing is going to be an issue, if he genuinely gives it a second in the first round and like because people are expecting him to do exactly that. And then second third is when he actually kind of comes out of the out of the gates. Like I'm very, very curious. The other thing that people say, slapped him in the way. I'm not sure if he's coming out patient. I know, but this is the other thing that people don't understand.

First of all, Tyson's a showman and knows how to, knows how to sell fights. That's another thing. However, it doesn't need to sell it. And the other thing you can't trust is that Tyson, even if they say like, hey, look, we want you to take Jake into like the third or fourth round and then just go nuts, right? Just do it. Just let it go three or four, Mike.

And Mike goes, yeah, okay, I can do that. Guess what? He steps in that ring and that man, if you went down. Do not trust Mike Tyson to go by the plan. He's a terrifying. You know, I decided I'm just going to take him out now. I'm going to kill him. He's got under thin.

I'll eat his babies. He's going to be my favorite answer, by the way, when I asked him about that thing, that thing, when he said, I'm going to eat his children, praise to a lot, and he asked him all that, and he asked him about at the press conference. And he goes, I was off my meds that day. When he's sitting in the house and there's like watching the press conference, he's like, well, the thing is, he's a man who pretends to be a bad man. I'm a man who's gonna kill him.

I'm a trained kill him. He's just so terrible. Please tell me y'all have seen the key appeal sketch. And it's it's you have seen instead of boxing, but it's one to be like, I'm gonna go in there, I'm gonna knock his ass out. And the other dude is super religious, he's like, he's crying.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I prayed to Allah that when I kill him and take him from his parents and his children, that they remember him in kind favor, and not the mess that I leave. He said, did he say he was going to kill me? And my children, is he praying? Like, it's what are they're funny?

I can't. I'm excited to see it. I think if it's a real fight, I say Tyson and two or three. If it is, if it goes past three, I think it's Paul. If it goes past three. Yes, it's it's it'll probably be Paul's. Okay. Here we go. This I'm speaking of Tyson. He says, hey guys, Coy, have you seen 89 return of the swamp thing? I have seen that. I've seen that with Heather Locklear. I haven't actually. I've seen it. Amazing practical makeup early Heather Lockler. Big cheesy fun. I remember watching that. When my grandmother passed away, we went to, or my grandfather, rather, passed away. We went to my grandmother's house.

And we watched, we were watching, I don't know what we were watching, but I went up watching that as a little kid. And I remember just like going, oh, this is great. And it's terrible. Huge fan of Swamp thing. Have not seen that. Yeah, that's, that's something. And Tyson follows it up.

Saw the reaction from Coy and Greg on the G.I. Joe movie, which was awesome. Have you or Winston seen it? And what are your thoughts? I saw it a long time ago. You know, it's hilarious is that we did a reaction to those G. G-I-Joe PSA, fake PSA things with Koi, and we put it up on the YouTube channel, and it ate a pile of garbage, so we got rid of it. I put it up on Instagram into 1.2 million.

It's all on the platform. It's hilarious. You never know. Absolutely hilarious. Yeah, that's the most I had seen of it was the not real thing. That was the most I had exposure because I'd seen the show as a kid, but I didn't remember at all. The movie is amazing.

It is an acid trip. Yeah. You guys are at 32 right now. 32 with about 40 minutes left to go to catch step. see if you can do it. Tyson again says also do you think that we'll get a proper G.I. Joe movie before the crossover of Transformers unfortunately no as long as I like Lorenzo DiBan Vittura as a person I think he's the wrong person to be running that. All live action Joe movies have been trashed in your opinion and my opinion as well.

It's been they they what they need to do is somehow figure out a way if they have rights they have to adapt those Marvel comics. It's right there. The new comics are great. The new ones part of it. Okay. Yeah. G.I.G. Joe number one dropped this week. Great. And this is Skybound? Yeah. So Skybound's got a Transformers book, a Void Rivals book, and a GI Joe book.

So it's one universe, only three comics, but you can pick up just one line and run. It's great. Yeah, Paramount unfortunately has it, right? I would love to see Skybun do that. Julius Wyatt. Hey, Winston, do you want Dion as your coach and Shadur as Corbeck? I don't hate the idea. My only thing with Dion is he would definitely garner the respect that you want out of that.

And I do genuinely appreciate what he did both in Colorado and in Buffalo, but went to the HBCU. But I think the thing that worries me a little bit, he has been able to kind of show some weaknesses here and there as a coach where then it is primetime kind of out there doing his thing. But then the team isn't always able to hold it together, though obviously they're doing much better this year. I don't hate the idea.

The problem has been the coach of the Cowboys has not been a leader of men since Jimmy Johnson like Bill Parcells for a second there but I think Bill was kind of over it at that point. Yeah. So like I don't I don't trust Mike McCarthy to lead people. I didn't trust Jason Garrett and whatnot. So if he can get the culture back to where it needs to be then yeah,

I'd be here for it. Coy agrees. Yeah, the Johnson, Joe Johnson, director of the Rocketeer. Hasn't been the guy since. God, I hate you. Christopher Brickner. Lucas Filman Ray to me is similar. to the Browns and Watson, minus the allegations. They investigated so much in being the face of the franchise for years,

but when it's not working, they try to force it. It's not to me, as I mentioned on the show yesterday. It's not a matter of Ray. I like the character of Ray. I really like Daisy Ridley. I think she should be, I think they should use her more. The problem is the leadership more so than anything else, too. It is the, where we're taught using sports.

It's the coaching staff. The coaching staff stinks. They are making really bad decisions. They're playing the wrong. players and they're getting their players hurt. That's what's happening in Lucasfilm. They're getting their players hurt. Hey, you know what we should do? I know we have our two great players in Obi-Wan and

Darth Vader. Let's bring in a new player and put in Riva. And Riva gets tackled and just, it could have been a good player, but just gets tackled and on the floor and the, Rivera stinks. Is there no, Reeva doesn't sink? The person putting Riva in the field stinks. A thousand percent or even how you're coaching Riva to go do said thing. Like literally looking at the Cowboys yet again, that Prescott is actually very talented. He's proven it.

But what good coaches have you truly given him that then he has not led up to his potential? Just like you said. So if you remove the Kathleen Kennedy, who is essentially Jerry Jones, and it's got to be my, I'm going to do my game. When you get rid of Jerry Jones, right,

you get rid of other people that Jerry Jones has been working with. You get rid of the coaching staff that he brought in. You get in everybody. You can't, it's not just Kathleen, Kennedy at this point. First of all, and I said this too, it's not just Lucasfilm. At this point, you have to point your fingers at Bob Eiger. What in the world? What pictures does Kathleen Kennedy have a Bob Eiger that she is still there? And the rest of those people are

still there. They're made a movie since 2019. It's crazy. Anyway, Gene Burns. I can't believe I live in a world where the Karate Kid universe is better than Star Wars. I love the new Cobra Guy. Yeah, just dropped today. Just dropped today. So we're going to check that out for sure. Whoops. Evil John Madden. I'd ask Winston a Roca-type question, but he seems, oh, this evil John Madden looks to push button. So let's see how you handle it because you can only imagine how Roca handles that.

I'd ask Winston a Roca-type question, but he seems thin skin like every cowboy fan and fake Dodger fan. Go Celtics, right, Coy? I like the different tactics he took in that. That was cute, but you're clearly not black. You know, we play the dozens, right? I didn't do shit. Come, come harder than that baby. Like, oh, Lord. Don't tempt him, please.

No, no, no. I really want to go for it. I want to see what you have because that depends on what it is. Sometimes I ain't going to read it. I just feel really bad because clearly, clearly, I've already ate his baby. Then he just doesn't really know how to deal with me in the ring. And now you've John Madden is licking his chops. All right. See, see black. Why can't Jonathan Majors come back as Kang? I mean, because if you're Marvel at this point, it's like you're at, you're at, point where you're trying to get everything back on track and you just don't need the bad publicity. Don't have controversy. Even even even if like you look at the whole case and everything

that went down and all that kind of stuff and you're kind of like, okay, you can't open that door at this point. If you do that, you're you're bringing in more drama than you are positivity, I would argue. Um, current case six, mic check. So what's it all about LB and M the Wu? So I was talking at Wu-tang what's LB and M-M-M-M-M- I'm missing that L-B and M-M-the-Wu I'm assuming the Wu-tang at the end but I don't know yeah no the Wu has to be a Wu-tang but like LB and M-M I don't know what to say method man is is M-M I'm assuming but I can't figure out who LB is right I don't know Christopher Bickner I think Lucas film should retcon the sequel trilogy but I believe in trying to make them work first start with one Ray film don't get ahead

and plan many Ray films forcing character doesn't work there's no world Because, like I said, Lucasfilm does not think they're doing anything wrong. They think that it's the fan's fault. They think it's all it's, it's not. And social media isn't helping that out either. They're enabling them because they're basically saying, yeah, right, it is all the toxic fans. And it's not. It's not, you're not hitting, you're not hitting the middle people either.

And there's no world where they're going to say art trilogy was crap. We need to, we need to redo it. They're not going to do that. And they shouldn't do that, to be completely honest with you. They should just try to maneuver around and figure stuff out and tell new stories and introduce new characters. But they made their movies. They shouldn't retcon them. It's a whole galaxy far, far away.

Yeah. I'd like to see some new things. 100%. Roman Fadouraic. Hey, all, hope you, your days are going great. Roman is one of my favorite human beings in the world. Just positive. Every day, dude.

Every day, Roman is in here just saying nice things. He's like, anytime I see it, I never have to worry about what, you know, sometimes when I bring up some of the superchast, I'm like, can I read? Can I read this whole thing? Roman, I don't even have to do it. I don't have to think. I hear the name. I know Joyce coming. 100%.

Kill a camp. Do you think Tony could be reary AI or is it too late? I think it's a great idea, but I just, I can't imagine them getting, you know, Downing to do it. I have a feeling that if that's going to happen, it might end up more tied. Like, is Armour War still a thing at this point? It's rumored to be, but not, but they haven't, Don Sheidel said there's no, there's been no movement on it. I would see it having a more of an opportunity maybe there that bleeds into Ironheart, but Iron Heart clearly is coming out first. I don't know if it's

happening. I personally think if we hadn't gotten Downey Jr. Back as Doom, it would be a cheeky way to do it. But I know Downey is with me on AI. So I don't know if he'd even want to play an AI version of himself just because AI is so problematic. Yeah, but the only thing is it's, it's been enough of a story like Jarvis. Like he's, he literally has had Jarvis and Friday. So like, I think that's where he could split the difference. You could always sell it to him that way. You can be like, you're the new Jarvis and don't ever mention AI. Just say, you're, you're the new Jarvis.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. But no, I don't think it'll happen. Logan V20. Hey, Koi, I told you he could be Scarecrow. Yeah, I did not think that was going to be the case. And I love the idea of it potentially being a seed planted.

That's the doctor. Yeah, doctor has like a burlap sack and a glove in the background. Well, they're giving him more to do. That would be great. Because Theo Rossi's amazing. more the ira rossi gay lord of the rings it feels like marvel is mining west coast avengers a hundred percent especially with wonder man and vision getting his own show uh it it looks to be yes what they're sitting up west coast and young they've that they've that they've kind of laid that groundwork for a while now

is that that that's that's the direction they're going stick with the west coast uh anthony royle it's going to take me a lot to have faith in james gun especially after the hype of that flash movie and it disappointing me, but hopefully Superman can change her mind. Well, look, here's what I'll say about that. The one, I don't think he should have endorsed it as hard as he did. I think the reason why he was endorsing it as hard as he did is because he knew he was going to bring on Mushieti to do Brave and the Bold. But as far as having faith in James Gunn, he, he didn't, if you said, hey, I saw the suicide squad, I saw Peacemaker, I saw Guardians 3, I don't like any of those movies, so I don't have faith in him. Then I'd say, okay, well, you just don't like his work,

and I understand that. But because, he endorsed a movie yeah it's not that's not his movie that was that was made way before him so i i can't i can't stick with that assessment coi uh yeah i mean i think when you start a new job uh you're trying to catch up and figure out the best place for you at that new job and if you're in my opinion one of the best adapters of comic books because you're genuinely a passionate fan that also happens be an incredible director. I really think that his endorsement is not in line with his work. I liked the flash okay. I don't have as much an aversion to the endorsement. I don't think it's nearly as good as his work, but that's kind of my point. It's not nearly as good as his work.

So I'm always going to be excited for a James Gun announcement. I think just from the, I can sort of understand what you're saying, but I think the new job analogy of like, no, hey, I love, like whatever, whatever, like when you haven't really done anything, yet and you really hadn't had a chance to start doing, you can't immediately go, no, burn it all. Like, you know what I'm saying? You have to play nice at that particular moment. And I guarantee that was a company directive. This is the greatest movie we've ever seen out of a super.

Like, I think that don't, don't read too much into that. Also, I mean, and I was saying something similar with him starting at DC around the same time, even if it wasn't a mandate, like what if dude just like the movie? Like, I wouldn't judge his making of movies off. of things he enjoys. Like I was something I think uh, uh, Rango is better than most Pixar films. Um, but that doesn't mean that my taste in comic books is like if you like Pixar. Like I just, it's all. I think it was the wording of what he said. I can't remember exactly what he said. It was something along the lines. It was one of the greatest comic book movies or something,

whatever, whatever he uses. I'm always, before a movie comes out, I'm always hesitant for somebody saying it's one of the greatest comic book movies ever. It's one of the greatest comic book movies ever. It's one of greatest movies ever. It's one of the greatest this. You got to be very careful when you say the greatest because you turn that into just like the same way that when people say is a masterpiece, people throw around masterpiece now all the time. We have also, I think people got to remember that that's not to tie everything back to we live in a society, but we're in a place now where people throw around the word love all the time. Like without the true meaning of what it used to mean of like, no, I love you. You know what I'm saying? So

I think that that's just the hyperbole of social media at that point. And, and, you know, I'd never heard him say it out loud. It was always a quote. If I had heard him be like, no, guys, I'm telling you, the Flash is the greatest superhero movie of all. I didn't hear him say that. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was just in quote. So I got to believe, like, man, this is one of the greatest I've ever seen.

That's how that felt. Let's see what happens with Superman. Roman, thoughts on Django and Chain. It's one of my favorites and a great theater experience, right? behind Pulp Fiction for Tarantino films. It is a great movie. I haven't seen it in a bit, but I loved it when I saw it in the theater and I haven't seen, I haven't seen it, but that's why I'd love to see a rewatcher. I have a love-hate relationship with the movie, but the hate part is not from the quality

of it. The hate part is because I had been looking forward to that movie for over a year and a half. And something happened on Christmas Day. We always go see a movie as a family. I had to go do something with my dad. My mom insisted the rest of the family is here. You're bringing your ass to movie. I'm like, mom, that's halfway through the movie.

said, I don't care. Bring your ass now. And I got walked into the mandingo fight with a, no, you've got my attention. I was furious because I missed the whole first half of the movie and had no content. I was so mad. That's horrible. So I can't always shake that. But it's a very good movie. Good movie.

Cornet K6. At this point, I just hope that it's entertaining enough to take me out of reality for two hours. So all movies. Yeah, all right. That's, I mean, escapeism is so important. That's what it is. next one is from Armada. Anyone watching Silo on Apple?

It's on my half to watch list because everybody raves about it that watches out. And now season two is coming out because Roxy swears by it. And I love Rebecca Ferguson. Love Rebecca Ferguson. And Apple is one of the most consistent, if not the most consistent streamer. I need to, but I haven't watched it. Kevin LaGuardia. Thoughts on Superman and lowest latest episode.

Such a cathartic ending. Looking forward to Guns DCU. But Hecklin's family man betrayal, raised my expectations i saw some scene i wonder if it was actually from the uh finale i assume it was somebody spoiled it but i watched it anyway did you watch it coy the finale i haven't seen the first episode uh i there's so many shows i want to watch that one i really really do and i hear hecklin's great i just haven't had time did you see it weston no you didn't either okay there's a and somebody can tell me in the comments i don't ruin it but there's a diner scene and someone

tweeted out the diner scene i don't know if that's the finale or not or the last scene the finale but i was like that was a pretty good scene armada what's getting first watch landman dune or cross well dune for me i don't even know what landman is and cross i'm interested in but what's uh dune for you also dune for me and then i don't know what landman is but i'm a huge eldest hodge fan so i'm going to get to alex cross but dune's priority probably cross dune don't know what land man is just turn it again quick that happened last time i don't know why it's stupid um marcus m can i get a quick explanation of the center in DC. No, no one knows.

I don't, I don't know. If you could put a context there. C, N-T-R-E. Center. The center. Winston, you got a computer in front of you give me, if you give me some context, I might be able to help out,

but I do not off the dome know the center. Gay Lord of the Rings. You think they'll do West Coast Avengers movie or show? I think you got a better shot of, I think you got a better shot of movie for that or better chance of success, a movie for that, than a movie with the young avengers i think a west coast avengers movie down the line i don't think they'll call it that but it might be for comic fans to recognize the team as the west coast

avengers but i do think something like that's coming our friend our friend matt thomas favorite iteration of superman in films or tv i mean it's christopher reeve for me reeves is a gimmee but i would say hatchethechelin or welling are up there views from metropolis i um i don't have enough game tape on hetchland for what i've seen but Tom willing was awesome, but yeah, and and and, uh, Cavill obviously. So Winston, what do you think? You think is who's, who's your Superman Reeves? Uh, it's Cavill, even if I don't, even if I don't love the tone of Cavill Superman,

he did it's such a good job of genuinely embodying the like just looking at him and being like, He looks like Superman slash Clark Kent. Like I saw it. And I think that's why I got so frustrated with the dissonance is because I was like, no, no, no, I see it,

but that's not what? Boy, what about you? Christopher Reeve? I mean, I've only seen Superman one. So I've only got two hours of game tape. I really like Welling.

I literally like grew up on Smallville. And in real life, I got to do one of the first like reunion panels for Smallville. And I realized that I still had that in like vision. because when Tom Welling walked in my brain, oh, Superman, like I, I felt that like rush. So that kind of instilled it even deeper. So I think welling is mine currently. I'll take it back. I'll take it back because I just started, um, Superman and Lois. And I, someone like has been putting the scene around, uh, in this last season here.

Uh, Tyler, uh, Holtchlin. He's, he's crushing. He's pretty good. Um, uh, a go pal just came in and said this. Do any of you guys know Danica? Comic, girl 19 on youtube she did schnepp's sweaty show and has the whole series of dune club videos covering the books which came to mind with the new series i do and i don't know if it was schnep who made the introduction but she was on schmose a couple different times and i remember after she was on we all went out to we all went out to eat together i'm pretty sure schnep was there when we when we did but she's very nice um i haven't i haven't seen any of that that stuff but she used to she used to do shnep show all the time she's coming to collateral all the time too yes she's a spit art and she loves dune like she's actually a

source for doing stuff so coy just real quick I guess also also called dinosaur island is a powerful promotio entity that sought to end all life on earth making it one of the greatest enemies of the justice league of america it's sentient island dinosaur island the land that time forgot is the other alias for it I've heard of the land that time forgot but I did not have any center now thank you you've taught you it's to me stevo favorite Denzel performance also fly eagles fly stop this um i will tell you that my favorite denzil performance is probably the movie that he should have won the oscar for and that's a hurricane oh i thought he should have won it from malcolm x but malcolm x is one too but i think hurricane was the one that he was

they gave it they gave him training day because he was so good in hurricane well that's fair um i mean you can't you can't stray too far from training day uh honestly uh I would have to say him doing fences like in in theater not just the movie okay but like in theater like I've seen some clips of it before oh my god you see that clip of him with Pedro Vascall just completely it was like he was doing an interview because you know gladiator coming on he's like he goes this man what a talented actor he is really great he's a he's a colleague he's my friend he's not my friend I don't really know him that well And Pedro's like, whoa, he's like, well, I want to be. He's like, you should come over to the house. And he's like, but he's like, but he caught himself because he was being genuine. He's like, I don't know what Winston was saying. Yeah, yeah, I love that Denzel so on us.

He's like, we could be friends. We could be, but I don't know what to call him my friend. I love that. I actually really, I actually really did like it a lot. I'm going to go with a hot take on my favorite Denzel. Sorry, go ahead, Winston. No, I was just going to ask in the vein of interviews, please tell me you've seen the one where Jamie and him are doing like a sit-down conversation.

And he was talking about like, it's like, I do. a depression you get your hair. It's so good. I'm going to go hot take. I think my favorite Denzel is because of the amount we get to see him evolve. I love him an equalizer. I think Equalizer is such a good trilogy because it starts with a more traditional performance and then evolves. And I think Denzel is the only guy that could have played it. John Q. He's good in that too. Man, I'm fired too. Yeah, there's a lot of them. Wicked Art. Do you think Disney would ever have the balls to do something as dark as age of apocalypse? I always love that comic run and found it to

be the darkest. Now, I say this to you at Godark, because I talk to you all the damn time. It's not a matter of Disney would have the balls to do. It's a matter if Marvel would have the balls to do it and then bring it to Disney and say, hey, this is what we want to do next. Because it wasn't Disney that said, hey, we want you to make an R-rated Deadpool and Wolverine now. It was Kevin Feigey going, hey, we got Deadpool back and we want to do it. We want to do it are in the same way that I always say, like, anytime someone says to me, well, Disney ruined Star Wars and Lucas film ruined Star Wars. Because, like, in the same way that, like, Disney is going to say, hey, you think you can make us money?

Because nobody, and I always say this, when Endgame made all that money, when Civil War made all the money, nobody said, yeah, yeah, look at Disney's doing everything right. They said, no, Kevin Feigey, yeah, and Disney was part of that. Someone, and it's, but once it starts to go to crap, they blame the studio. And it was Disney ruined Star Wars. No, Kathleen Kennedy and Lucasfilm ruined Star Wars. That's what happened. So in the same way that age of apocalypse would, I guess the question is to you guys, would Kevin Feigy and those that actually try to take it real dark after the conversation

we've been having about the humor? No, I don't think so. I do think there is an opportunity for darkness in X-Men uniquely separate of the MCU where we are now that I hope they dabble with. And I think the success in Deadpool might help that. But we, I mean, if something is dark and intense, I hope people show up so we can vote that way, so to speak, to show it's possible. I think that that's what they were planning on doing with midnight suns and probably still

are just by the nature of kind of how things go that way. So it's not just your horror element, but you will be able to use that avenue. I think the other way that they were maybe thinking it, depending on how daredevil goes, if they really are going back to the roots, that may be getting to a more serious street level. I think those are possibilities. I don't know about age of apocalypse. We have to see, because that's such a grand scale thing.

we got to wait and see. Yeah, and I know. It's also a legacy story. You need to have these characters established for a decade. Yeah, but I think that they would. I mean, look, look at they did an animation with that one, that one episode that they just bloated. Genoa.

Yeah, man. So I think it's possible. Curtis Nunnery. A question, I'm an audio engineer. Would you be interested in seeing if a remote engineer would work for the show? I'd love to help out if possible level, but you guys do. Thank you, Curtis. Look, when I said that, too, also, the thing is we are, I'm very happy with the way that the

move went from New York. and I know that everybody on my team was worried about if we were going to continue to be able to do virtual and all that. And we have. And I think the show has gotten great doing it because of the system that we have. We're able to put everything together. My goal at the moment is I still, I have to look at my costs and I have to do everything right now. I got to be the guy juggling a thousand plates until I am comfortable enough to say, okay, I can bring somebody in to just do this and do it for me. but I got to do it for myself now until I have the means to be able not to. So I don't want to bring somebody in and then pay them pennies to do it because it's not worth their time.

Next. And it's 41 so far, guys. All right, here we go. Uh-oh, here you go. Evil John Madden's coming in. I can sense. My spider sense went up. I was like,

I'll see what you got. Winston must have hated the ending of the penguin. You want to get the, the, the, the, the, you want to get a spoiler here? I don't care. Are you sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. It's a spoiler for everybody. I already put it up on the screen.

So all right. Winston must have hated the end of the penguin because the white guy killed a black guy with his hands. I hope you didn't take that out in your lady, friend. That's real nice. See, that that's what. God, you are really bad at this. Really bad. You are really, really bad at this.

This is the person I'm supposed to be afraid of. Don't, don't do it. Don't instigate. Don't instigate. I'm going to, no, no, I'll keep, go ahead, try again. That was, that was the strike two. Don't. This family food, you got one more time before there's a steal.

I'm going to read that one. The Blazing Kids, did you guys hear that Sophie Turner is going to play Laura Croft? I did an Amazon Tomb Raider. What are your thoughts? Where's she been? I'm glad that she's back. I like that she's playing. I think it's a good choice.

I really liked Alicia Vacander as Laura Croft. I thought she was great. I just felt like they didn't really know how to take that. but as a series, I think all video games, like that layered should be series. So I'm actually, I think that that could be pretty good. And I liked her, even the movie was shit. I liked her as Gene Gray. Yeah, I don't know.

Her work a lot. I didn't watch Game of Thrones, but I like what I know of her. And I think Laura Croft is a fascinating character we haven't seen done fully correctly. And on top of that, man, she got time now after that, after that messy divorce from her husband just being a piece of trash. She's about to come out here and just double gunned up. I'm here for it. Also, I love that she got family time and like away from the bullshit time. Like, you know what I mean?

I'm happy for her to have had that. Shea Markell. Cates, I'm digging the new middle display screen set up. Yeah, I kind of, I took a shot at that today and I kind of like the difference of it for sure. Daynapper, 28 years ago today, I was working Space Jam opening today. I was watching Space Jam opening day on my 12th birthday. Today I'm watching it on beer and via. Yes.

What a good birthday. What's a good birthday. movie experience you've had. Good birthday movie experience. I'm trying to think. I remember my I was thinking of it when I was a kid. I remember my dad taking me to see a bunch of movies when I was yet. I remember saying I was super

young and I saw staying alive. Remember that? And I was so excited when Sylvester Stallone showed up. He directed it. I get caught in a little bit of a void type situation because with my birthday being in December, unless you're later in December, that's when like those

big blockbusters come out like that. So I'll go with Holiday. I remember going to see the Power Rangers movie on 4th of July. That was awesome. That was super cool to see the movie and fireworks are going off at the end of the movie to walk outside as a kid

and there are fireworks going off. And I'm just like, oh my God, the Power Rangers are there! That was dope. September's not the best month for movies, but I remember one year, Riddick came out in September and I saw it in I pick. And I pick is like a movie theater restaurant like the whole experience is dope and i had like frozen liquid nitrogen booze

while watching riddick and eating like chicken and cassidias it was pretty dope that's pretty fun uh shay markell my new favorite show is day of the jackal it's not perfect it's got some flaws but i'm enjoying the vibe it's like james bond meets jason born um interesting uh day of the which one is that the day of the day of it i haven't heard of it and it's is that the one with billy bob thornton i think it is i haven't heard it's maybe let me know if you guys look it up uh shay markeld just became a new member thank you shay Thank you. Yeah, we had some people list a gift, a whole bunch of them.

Today, I'm actually a good time to be a member today, Shabee, because today I'm going to send a PLD who handles all the membership stuff and Patreon stuff. I'm doing the raw reactions. I'm going to be posting some of the raw reactions today. Elusive Rock. I wanted to recommend Dan de Dan. Last night's was one of my favorite episodes of TV, anime, live action, otherwise. Yankees suck. How dare you?

I was, you know, it's funny as far as animated goes, I just because I'm part of the CCA, we just got, I got the Lord of the Rings, the War of Roham screening. I can't wait to see that. And I watched the opening last night, and it has the

Peter Jackson music. Cool. And I was like, oh, I'm ready into it. Like, it just shows you how important. So again, yes, another Star Wars complaint. How much they can't fathom all the john williams stuff is missing it sets the tone and the feel of star wars right the second this thing starts the war of rohan thing the second and it's got the da da da na na na na na na and i'm like yeah

i'm back in the world you know it's like right away and it's produced by wig nut and it's produced by peter jackson so i just felt it i'm so excited just because the opening music i can't wait to watch this now i let's empire strips back again this year which is such a good show and the opening music like Star Wars, it made me feel more like Star Wars than Star Wars had in a while. Yeah. And this is Shay Markel. This is the final one right now, guys. Winston and Coy, this is an old debate for me and my brothers.

I'd like to get your opinions. Who is the better stuntman? Tom Cruise or Jackie Chan? Oh, that's fun because they're very different stuntmen. One of them is using stunts as a way to tell a narrative. The other is using stunts as a way to show action and comedy. Like Jackie Chan is using it as a mime. whereas Tom Cruise is using as an actor,

I would say it's hard to compare because they're different skill sets, but I'm going to give it to Jackie Chan because there are things that Jackie Chan has done that I've never seen another human do, whereas I think if I was suicidal, I could do a lot of the things Tom Cruise has done, but I value living. I got to go with Jackie.

He originated that. Like, you know, Tom Cruise, in my opinion, probably wouldn't be doing half of the stunts he's doing without him probably seeing some of the stuff that Jackie did, let alone when you consider the let, because like a lot of us didn't get put on to Jackie until, you know, the 90s when some of his movies were bleeding over

or you were introduced to a rush hour or eventually a Shanghai or something like that. Jackie's the OG and the fact that he is still doing it even now, not to the same nth degree, he's got Tom by it by some years. I got to give it to Jackie. But I got to also say the stuff we see Tom Cruise too, I want to give Tom Cruise some credit, like the hold of your breath for a certain amount.

Like there are things that he has to do within the stunts that we can never even fathom. So like I think they're the two best, but. Absolutely. Look, I'm not saying that it's not, but it feels like you're talking like sometimes say like if Patrick Mahomes right now does a three p. in an undefeated season, then there's a serious conversation that maybe he already passed Brady as the go even without the number of rings. But a lot of people can't touch Brady because of the number of rings. You know what I'm saying? There's no conversation here.

It is Jackie Chan by a landslide. It's by a landslide. Tom Cruise is awesome and is ballsy for what he does. Jackie Chan has been doing this forever. And Jackie Chan puts his body at risk in a lot of different ways, more so even than Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise does some really big crazy stunts. There's no doubt about it.

He absolutely does. And stuff that he shouldn't do for sure. Jackie Chan has been doing this. for like 30, 40 years. Tom Cruise, it seems like, has just been doing this for like 10 years because he wasn't when in his early years, he wasn't jumping off things in risky business. It wasn't jumping off things in Jerry Maguire.

You know what I mean? Like Jackie Chan, you knew in every movie he was in, he was going to do something crazy and is all his own stunts. It's Jackie Chan. Jackie Chan, there's no, there's no, it's number one. And then Tom Cruise is probably in the far two spot, far two spot. And then Jet Lee needs some love and three.

Yeah, for sure. But I mean, he's, but, but he's more of like a martial arts and more so than just a stunt man. Oh, yeah, totally real. And the Tony Jaws also madman. Yeah. Days of Thunder is a, is a good example too. But yeah, he's, I'm not taking anything way of Tom Cruise. Love Tom Cruise. But, um, but, um, but it's Jackie Chan. And Shay follows it up and says beautifully done. I'm voting Cruz because they just favor the technical skills and is that his stunts require, which is a fair point. which is fair but also the technical skills of being a martial arts master and like the way that he has fully learned not only whatever falls jumps with specific thing i always think of that ridiculous like it's it's a small stunt yeah but you remember in rush hour two when he's like in the back of the casino and he fits through that tiny ass little hole where he like essentially while running for people up jump slid through the thing paused and since his funny moment. He paused. It's such a great moment. And he says that the guy flies planes, base jumps, Jackie is amazing. Yeah, he is.

Okay. So guys, you had a good day today, 47, but Steph beat you up. So it happens. It was Steph is, Steph is just adequate. Steph right now is the Jackie Chan of this game. However, Matt Thomas says, currently doing a Superman in media podcast, considering throwing Schnep's death of Superman lives. Definitely.

Interesting idea. Yes or no. Thoughts? 100% I mean he covers he covers that whole thing of what was going to go down with uh nicholas cage it's a that's a great it's a great source of information for you to do if you're going to do a superman immediate but yeah it's great he really dives deep into that you should absolutely include that and not just because of my bias with the big man I think there was a couple more before the shays follow up what are there a couple more left yeah yeah evil john madden C black and

Ian Davis, I think we're between the shades on my end. All right. Let me see. It's Korean K6. I love you guys. Friday, cruel, like this episode and subscribe if you haven't already. Winston, are we spilling the tequila this week? That's a good question. I haven't talked to Roka.

I'm assuming not this particular week. And then I will, unfortunately, everybody, I have jury duty next week. So I may not even be here next week, but I won't know yet until I report. So we'll see what happens. I actually miss this C black Thunderbolts will surprise the box office I think it will I think it will do well I think so too

let's see evil John Madden here we go here we go I totally admit I'm not as good as dozens as you but I have to keep it in rain for YouTube plus we don't really know each other so feelings can get hurt I can't say anything to Coy brother from Massachusetts

I like this like that's what an accept it like that's that's a heart war I think the part about that that's funny to me and I definitely I appreciate that you understand that and took a step back. That's where I know like you probably don't follow me enough because if we're back in the heyday of me and Jay Washington doing words, that's what I'm saying. That's why I was like, okay, if you want to do this, we can do this, baby.

But respect, understood. Who knows? I've thought about doing like kind of one-on-ones and stuff with like my patron and the membership stuff coming up. So who knows? If I end up doing that and you join, if you want to get to know each other and start dozens in it up, we can do it, brother. I respect that, that, like, you know. Yeah, so let's not hurt each other's feelings.

No, no, we're chilling. We're chilling. We're chilling. All right. Thank you guys for joining us here today. Thank you to everybody who contributed. Thank you to Winston and Corey for being here. Make sure you check out both their respective channels.

You go check out Swaggy Blair. Go check out Corey Jondro. They're doing a lot of great things over there. So with that being said, oh, let me ask you guys this. This is probably a great question for me to figure up. because I'm not going to play it if that's the case. When I, and I'll ask the chat room this, before I take off. When I play the intro today, the first intro,

I'm sure that you guys got the, the Cape's music, but did you get the regular intro? Like, when I play this intro here, hold on. I have no sound. I know you don't. I know you don't. But the question is, did the audience get any of that? And then Stephanie Litz says, you guys are at 51, actually.

Sending love because I never catch Cates live. Thank you, Stephanie. and Shea says, I really appreciate you all and everyone in the chat for the stuntman debate. I love having fun conversations. Have a great weekend. You too, Shea. I want to see if the audience heard that because if not, I'm going to, they didn't hear any sound. Great.

Okay. So I'm going to play it this way and we're going to take it out with the regular logo. Quick, quick last thing, just because obviously didn't happen on the show today, definitely come back later today and check out the interviews that we did with that I did with Ultraman Rising. It'll be a uploader on the channel. I'm going to play. I'm going to, yeah, I'm going to post that a little later on today. So make sure you support Winston and.

watch that when you see it okay thanks guys appreciate it we'll see you guys on the flip side apple spotify everywhere podcasts are found bye