The Kristian Harloff Show - New Report claims The Rock constantly late on movie sets and peeing in water bottles!

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

There was a new report by The Wrap that claims that The Rock Dwayne Johnson has been notoriously late on many movie sets even fighting with costars. A bizarre note was that he would pee in water bottles on set to save time and make PAs throw it out. We cover that, the use of AI and Chris Hemsworth talks about Thor Love and Thunder and his regrets. This and more on todays show with Kristian, Steph and Mike

How's it going, everybody? Welcome back. It's Wednesday. And we got the whole crew back together. Me, Mike, Steph. And we got a lot to talk about. The Rock. What's going on, man? He's showing up late to set. He's peeing in water bottles. I don't know what's happening. Is it true? Is it false? Is it exaggerated? I don't know. But there's a lot going on. We'll discuss. AI. There's a big hellboy controversy. It seems like there's a new one of these stories every week.

We're going to get into a lengthy discussion today about AI, the effects of it, how we feel about it, marketing signs of it, overall, what the dangers are, what the benefits are, all that. And Chris Hemsworth says that love and thunder was the farts. So we'll discuss that and more on the show today, but we want you to hit that button. Subscribe to the channel if you're brand new to it. Why? I've never even seen you guys talk yet and just stumbled across this. Why am I going to watch it?

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That's it. That's the whole pitch here today. So let's get to it. Big thing. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It is the big thing. It's Wednesday. May 1st.

That's right. It's me. It's May. You didn't know it was May yet? It's got lost, huh? Yeah, I'm lost. Because I thought summer happened. We got two days of sun.

Today it's gloom. That's gloom. Speaking of gloom, Mike Klonowski's here. But Dan, does he look good? Is it not? No, it's not on. You're headed on.

Jesus. So, amateur. And for people, and listen, this is what I'm going to tell people now right away. You know, Mike's frame rate is a little different

than stuff of Mike's. Yeah, I know. Brett's going to fix it on the next show. So you'll see the difference on Thursday. Leave you alone. Yeah, it's funny because not on this show per se, but mostly on the Tuesday.

in the UAP show, people will be like, I like the show, there's too many ads. Are you paying my salary? Like, what are you talking about? Every podcast has ads. At this point, isn't it like, part for the course? And I'm getting ads that people will like.

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So that's why. So don't comment that because it's not going to make the cut. Anyway, so we got a lot to talk about. And I didn't know if I was going to talk about it at first, but I figured it might as well. This is kind of explosive interview or report, rather,

on the rap by Iberto Gonzalez, who did a full-on investigation about The Rock. And here's some of the tidbits. I'm going to summarize some of it. But basically, this article by Umberto Gonzalez says that for more than two decades, The Rock has nurtured a reputation as a hardworking muscle-bound action comedy movie star with considerable box office drawing power, but Red One, a high-powered Christmas crowd pleaser for

Amazon, MGM, has turned into a massive budgetary misadventure, casting Johnson's fame and work ethic into a different light. Originally slated for release during the 2023 Christmas season, the Red One theatrical release has been delayed to November, of 2024, supposedly due to last year's labor strikes. But the real story is a lot messier. Production issues ranging from Johnson's chronic lateness and lack of professionalism on set to producers and experience caused costs of the movie co-starring Chris Evans and J.K. Simmons to spiral upwards to a final budget of over 250 million, a sum more fitting for a superhero

tent pole. According to more than a dozen insiders directly involved in the project, the Red One production was a perfect storm of problems compounded by the inexperience of the film's lead producer, Hiram Garcia of Seven Bucks Production and Amazon's MGM feature and production executives, Julie Rappaport, and Glenn Gainier, who are overseeing the project. Insiders told the rap that Johnson showed up as much as eight hours late to set on the movie, forcing the crew to shoot around him on some days. On previous films, Johnson has made a habit of peeing in water bottles to save time which upset crew members. On set, away from his trailer, if he needs to pee, he doesn't. go to the public bathroom.

One insider who knows the movie star well says he pees in a Voss water bottle and his team or a PA has to dispose of it. Amazon was hoping to launch a potential franchise with Red One, which is about a villain who kidnapped Santa Claus from the North Pole, after which an elf, extremely large and formidable operative, joins forces with a bounty hunter to find and save Christmas. Amazon debuted some of the footage at CinemaCon, and basically what they have talked about is,

and what he does say, and this is what I liked about the article, he goes back and forth, He said that he reached out to Amazon, and they said their statement was that both Dwayne Johnson and Seven Bucks have been incredible partners and that everybody's going to love it. And they said that they've had no issues and anything is kind of ridiculous and false. Now, he further goes into the fact that the Rock is late. He said Johnson, who advocates himself for the hardest worker in the room, has developed a reputation for his lack of professionalism on set. Now, this kind of tardy into they talked to some people who rumored that there was some stuff in WrestleMania that he was late for, but WW came back and said it wasn't true.

But there were, and some people said that one of the reasons he was late to one of these events is because he had other stuff that he was doing in the city. And then they talked more about his time on ballers, and they said that there are people on the set of ballers that said he was late all the time. And so, and then there was big rumors about him and Ryan Reynolds, who got into it on, I think it was it red one? Not red one. Whatever the other one was that they did.

together and there was apparently some beef there. So, and then the budgets got out of hand on a lot of these things. And it's a very long article, but it just goes on to say it. And what I've noticed inside of all this is the reason why, look, showing up to late, it seems like a lot of different places,

whether, I don't know how true the Ryan Reynolds thing is, but there's no comment on it yet from Ryan Reynolds. they've seemed to make up since they apparently weren't talking for months and now they are. The way that I look at is as far as, if you're going to be late, you know,

and you're going to cost the crew that much money, that's a problem, right? It's a major problem. But what I don't want to do is say, oh, this is bad. The Rock is a bad person for being late, peeing and water bottles doing all this stuff and making people throw it out

because I haven't heard his side of the story yet. And I'm tired. I'm tired of going into a place where we see everybody who just goes, oh, yeah, that article's bad. That's the bad guy. All this might be true. Every single bit of it might be true. But let's get the whole story first right away because everybody, they see all this stuff,

and I've seen videos about the rock and people just going after the rock and going. Wait till the whole story's told. But the thing, the peeing in the water bottles is almost comical at this point. But the only thing that gets me about that, so you guys busy is pissing in water bottles, whatever. The thing against me about it is that he's making his PAs throw it out. Right. That's if that's true. That I'm like, if you're going to piss in a water bottle, throw it out.

That's, I don't know, Steph, you hear this, and this is the smidget. I, okay, so if I'm the rock, I'm one of the most famous people of all time, most paid people of all time, and you write a 40-page smear or article about me that's supposed to be bad, and this is what you got. I think the Rock's doing pretty okay. This is like, this sounds like a 16-year-old boy onset in a lot of ways. It's also a little bit confusing because if you're so pressed, if you're eight hours late, but then so pressed for time that you have to pee in water bottles to avoid wasting time in the bathroom, something's not adding up.

Yeah. funniest show of all time sharing what these people make them do. Because this to me, because I've been an assistant for people in the industry, not surprising if it's true. It's not surprising. It doesn't mean it's true. It doesn't mean it's true. And it doesn't mean it's okay if everybody else is doing it.

Right, right, right. It's gross. It's disgusting. I'm not your doctor's office. Right. And well, and the fact, it's more so with me. I mean, I know the piston in the bottles, whatever you want.

To me, that's the small. part of this whole story. The being eight hours late and screwing up an entire production. The budget of it. It's crazy. Making the crews work later, sure, there's overtime. But you're asking people to stay there for a very long time, be away from their families, do these things.

And if it's because you're so busy, then, you know, have someone manage your schedule better. And the other thing it says inside of that report is that, and this is, again, hearsay. I don't know whether or not this is true. And that's what other people say. The Rock put his ex-brother-in-law. law, Hiram Garcia as a producer.

And in this report, it says that it was such a, it was a really a slam. They said, like, you imagine if, if, what's his name, who was Vince gave

Turtle a job as a producer and the job that he would do, this is worse, and that's who Hiram Garcia is, right? Like, turtle. He's basically Turtle from Ontario. Yeah.

You said that the guy, here, him all he used to do is make his shakes. Right. His protein shakes from that was his job, but now he's a producer. Right. But that's, but that, again, the unfairness to that is everybody's got those jobs at one point where you're doing stuff.

You're working your way up. You're working your way up. So he very could have been making the rock protein. He said, hey, you're my brother-in-law. I'm going to give you a job. You want to help me out, do this. Sure, I'll do that. And look, you're really good at what you do. Here it is. And he gets caught in the crossfire of it. And they go, well, he's just his brother-in-law, and maybe someone's jealous. And they put him under it. It's possible. That's why. There's so much. Yeah, the only thing that stands out a little bit, and maybe it's because they're waiting. the Rock's very active on social media. Yeah. Very active.

And he's posted things since this article, but nothing directly about this article. Now, normally, when he's challenged on things or someone says something about him, he responds. Right. So maybe it's just like, hey, let's either ignore it, let it go away because he's got this, he's got a big career thing happening. First of all, he's part of the WWE board now. He's like part of the company now. And they're doing big things over there as well. So that part he's doing well on.

He just had the biggest WrestleMania like ever. So that worked out really well. But as far as acting goes, he is taking a step. He's playing the ex-UFC champion. And it's an A-24 movie. It's Emily Blunt, I think, that's with him. Maybe. I don't know if that's been announced, but it's rumored.

And it's supposed to be like his first kind of real drama turn. you are not going to be able to do this kind of stuff showing up eight hours later on an A24 production. With Emily Blount. But you'll sync the movie. 824's budgets are not. You can't balloon a budget to an A24 budget to that. I mean, look, Civil War was like the highest to A24 budget, I think, in a long time.

And you can't do that. So I don't know. Mike, what do you think about this report? Believe it? Not believe it? Where do you stand? I don't know. Yeah.

Should we just wait? I don't know. I'm going to say something. As one of the people that's been on set, like, hey, we need Mike here on this day. And I don't end up shooting because the actor didn't show up to set that day. I got paid.

It was nice to get paid, but I had other things to do, and I got screwed over. It happens all the time to lower people on an acting call sheet. And like his, the one thing that is when they said they don't list his call time on the call sheet.

Something's rotten in the state of Denmark. Because everyone's. Some stinks in Denver. Yeah, everyone's on the call sheet with the call time. Tom Cruise is on the call sheet with the call time. And the fact that he's not on there with the call, his call time is not on there. Interesting. Is they hide that.

And there's because they don't want the, well, he was supposed to be here. And he did. He's showing up now and they don't have that. That's a problem. And that's where I think this guy's not going to look. The variety's not going to write it or the rap's not going to write an article to not go through their lawyers going, hey, how does this? Right. Can he come at us?

Or do you have your sources to back it up? Well, and I think that that's one of the things that the article does well. I mean, I only read a snippet of it, right? Because the article does well in saying, look, well, we also reached out to Amazon, and reached out to WWE, who wrote back and said nothing but great experiences with Wayne Seven bucks. Of course not. Of course, they have to say that. But there are two sides of it here.

There's a side of the saying, no, there's no problem. They've been great partners. It's not just a, well, this is just the rock being horrible. And everybody says he's horrible. It's like, no, the people he's working with are giving him props. W.E, there's these reports that he was showing up late, but yeah, but here's the reason why. The traffic was real bad at one side. He was doing this. He was doing that.

He addressed it on stage that he was, and people are saying he was actually even there early for the actual matches to go over it. So there is this both sides of it going, no, it's not everything what these people are saying is a little kind of ludicical. But there's the one article in there. Again, a lot of people are saying, hey, I'm say this. I'm not saying my name because they're lower in the... Of course. But the one people have said they had like a log. They wrote a log on the show he was on of every day he was late.

That's proof. It's proof to that person. Because how do we know that? Why would they out of the blue go? I'm going to create a log to the other times he was late. You are not wrong in the fact that if you investigated it enough, you probably would find that that person most likely is telling the truth. However, we can all agree in the room that there are also people who are out of their minds. Sure.

And who could also go like, you know what? I'm playing the long game here, and I'm going to write every week. Dwayne Johnson didn't say hi to me. So, you know what? He is a jerk because he didn't say a little to me. I smiled at him and he didn't smile back. I'm not saying that that's what this person did. It's more likely to what you're saying.

I'm just saying you can't rule out anything because people, especially today, with social media and people, everybody wants to get some kind of attention. What I will say, though, is that there was something, I don't know if it was from ballers or whatever. This peeing in the bottle thing isn't new. Someone up on Instagram post about it And back in like 2021 And said that he was showing up late And doing these things too

So I don't know It's the worst thing That's a peeing in the bottle thing That it's a Voss bottle It's clear Like you could have peed I thought when they said water bottle Like it's one of those big black

Like insulated ones It's not like he's got shame about it Jesus crap Yeah He definitely only drinks Boss bottle of piss Yeah It's the same thing for me

Like if you're If you're standing around And you got And you're pissing in a bottle Because you're like No no let's go Okay It's gross

You're doing what you're doing but don't give it to somebody else to throw out. Like to me, it's like, yeah, okay, look, I went behind the shed, I went behind the tree, I went behind the house, I went behind the thing,

I pissed in this bottle, let's move, I just tossed it out, and don't even tell anybody about it. Just do it. The big takeaway for me and all this, I'm curious now, because I was always pro rock

when it came to him in the Vin Diesel's beef. I was just going to say that. I'm glad you wrote up. But now, who knows? Maybe he was like, hey, you're coming to my, this is my family, you're coming here,

and you're costing us eight hours, You're late and you're pissing everywhere. That is the report, by the way, is that Heven Diesel was upset about Rock being late all the time. So if that's the case, maybe the Rock just had more followers, got in front of it, and they show up and they're not working, and I'm the hardest working guy in. And he's more likable. Yeah, I mean, I'll say this. You asked me five years ago, which movie star out there, I want to have a beer with The Rock's the guy. But ever since his D.C. tried to muscle in and takeover.

I know. I got real sour on him. Yeah. To hear the workings, they try to keep. people out and he wanted to take over and be like the big thing of D.C. I'm like, well, the rumor in this article is that he wanted Hiram Garcia to the guy. To run DC that was making his protein shakes

10 years ago. Again, that I know. That doesn't, that to me, but you look at his track record and he doesn't have Yeah. They talk about the things. He's like when he's dealing with the rock, he's fine. But anytime you try to have a be producer with other stuff it crumbles. Right. Well, I mean, that that to me is more valid. And if

you look at the guy's past track record, he tried to do this, this, and this. And he couldn't get it off the ground. want him to run DC. That to me speaks a little more volumes and, well, the guy used to make the shakes. It's like, who cares? Like, you know, like, Eminem used to have Shacks and call it a day. Eminem used to work at a burger place. You know, it's like, so who cares?

I know. So, anyway, there's a lot to this story overall. I wonder where you guys stand on it. You know, you read this article, maybe he didn't read this article, maybe you had no clue. Does it hurt the rock

in your eyes? Is it one of those things, as I said up top? Let's wait to get the whole story. Let's wait to see the response, if there is one at all. Is it one of those things where we are a people of forgiveness and scorn at the same time? So it's, hey, why did you do that? Why are you peeing in bottles? We hate you. Oh, wait, that movie was real good. We'll give you the Oscar. That can happen. And things can bounce back. I mean, there are a lot of people who did a lot of different things that are still working now. Does he address the behavior. That's the other question. If he does, does he come out and say, look, I'm sorry that

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This is following a quote from the film's producer causing controversy. I guess there's an animated film coming out. Brian Taylor has shot down a report of actual AI usage in the upcoming Hellboy, The Crooked Man. This was published two months ago at motionpitchers.org. We're picking up traction yesterday. The original article had quotes from Millennium Media Chief Jonathan Younger, who said he saw a demon character shot practically that didn't look great, so he used AI to come up with some new designs.

The article's writer, Not Younger, says in the piece, Younger was referring to the Hellboy film on which he's a producer. Now, Taylor has indicated the article got it wrong. And the quote was about another film entirely. He says, to be clear, there is no. Zero. AI used on Hellboy, The Crooked Man. Both characters, Hellboy and the Crooked Man, were created and shot 100% gloriously practical as the movie God's intended, with no CGI enhancement, and it looks amazing.

Younger was misquoted. The comment was referring to a different film of The Offering. Rest assured, there is zero AI used on Hellboy, the Crooked Man, and our gloriously practical Hellboy looks phenomenal. Probably the article was written by AI. Boom, Zinger. He got him. Indeed. Younger is both writer and producer on the offering,

which could make him closer to that film's material in question. The new Hellboy unfolds in the 50s, and yada, yada, yada, who cares? Okay, so this is a new stance. Mike yesterday, you took to Twitter. I haven't seen you really do this too much, and you went on Twitter started yelling at some peeps. He's being sarcastic. Oh, am I?

I think you're great on Twitter. It's one of my favorite things to do is to watch explosions happen on Twitter. Anyway, you're on Twitter and you start yelling at the people saying you will never watch this movie. F this movie. I said, F, the filmmaker that uses AI. Right. So you see this story. He says, there's no AI in this at all, and they got it wrong.

Okay. What do you say? I think he got a shitstorm yesterday on Twitter, and it's like, whoops, I want people to see our movie. So you think he's lying? The guy said, it's all taken. It's like, I put it in commands and I got a thousand different character designs and I get to choose which one and then I send it off to people to then make it. That was what he talked about. Are there characters in the offering that are creatures that he needed a thousand different creature designs for?

Are there? I don't know. I could be right. I could be wrong. I spent six months of this summer on a picket line in the 100 degree L.A. weather with my writers and actors against AI. I'm not going to take part in it. You said, you know, as an actor, you know, what if you say this? filmmaker wants to hire you again, well, then I'm not going to work with this filmmaker.

Because no filmmaker that's worth what they do as a creative is going to use an uncreative thing to create. They're not. And then I'm like, okay, you use the AI to create creatures. But what it did is it took information from the... But he said he didn't. He's not even... But it was a very specific quote from the guys.

Like, I put in creature and I got thousands of designs. It was a different movie, though. So you're telling... So the author's a liar. It's what he said. so you tell him a liar. You're saying he's a liar. It's just very...

We talk about how the rock doesn't respond right away. And this guy responded right away to something that came out yesterday. When Twitter blew up like, fuck this movie. But wouldn't you? If someone said, hey, this movie... Well, that's not my movie. It's a different... Or, like, we got caught.

What do we got to say? But isn't going to show when you turn the movie on? I'm going to go look up the offering when I get home and see if there's creatures in it. If it's about two little girls in a church, then I'm going to... gonna go your fucking suss pal okay like how do you feel with us uh I feel I didn't see the Twitter storm

that would be very disheartening to hear it would be very surprising to hear because I feel like most creatives are against AI especially when you're working in the animated sector just because

I don't know I just feel like animation's always been important but especially this year and coming off the heels of Spider-Ver It's like everyone wants to create more animated stuff. Like there's X-Men and Batman and the Kid One and there's so many. So I don't know. It seems pretty real. Like that's a pretty serious quote to put down and have that not be.

If that's a lie, then he's a liar. Right. And that would be crazy. I believe him. I think it's like, look, I think that he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, easy. The movie is, there's no AI in the movie. There's no AI in the movie. And it's just, he was referring to this.

this other film. This is not this is, you're good. We have everything. We're fine. But I don't know, maybe he's referring just to you. Maybe just to me. Just to you. I don't see any movie called The Offering on IMDB coming out in the future, future years. So call him up, tell him he's lying. I don't do that. You know who should say something, the animators.

Yeah, I don't know, but. Right. It's cause, it's overall, this is a very, as much as we kind of I bust Mike's chops a little bit. This is a very serious topic in general, as we know, as Mike was talking about on the picket lines and these other things, too. And there was this whole thing that came out the other day. And you guys weren't on the show when I said this.

And I know that I have a different opinion on it for most, and especially definitely than you do, right? Oh, boy. But when it comes to like the Civil War, Civil War had... I didn't see it. But it's not important. What was is that the... After the campaign came out,

they had done some images on Instagram. And they put some... It was like, okay, these... famous battles that happened in this world, but they used it for AI. They used AI to do it. And then there was another, there was a Netflix doc that used AI to, inside the dock itself, to generate certain things that had happened, but it was kind of distorting the real events, right?

So I had an issue with the Netflix doc using it because you're distorting events, you're distorting it, and that's, to me, that's the dangerous part of AI going, well, we need this, we didn't shoot it, so let's create this here instead. That's dishonest to me. The Civil War, I said I'd like to look into a little bit more, but the movie was done. They had their marketing campaign. It's like, oh, you know what?

I have this program. The movie just came out. We hired everybody to do everything that we needed to do on the posters and everything, too. Do fake battle. Put it on the official account. I put it on any account. I don't have an issue with that. I don't.

In the same way that, you know, but it's like if you're taking away jobs, if you took, you like, hey, you did take away a job. But not if you, if your budget was, You've got, you know, I'm just making up a number, $200,000 for a marketing campaign that you can use. And you've used $200,000 of it. And you're like, well, we can run some of the old ones that we already had that have already done their job. Or I can throw this thing in there.

It doesn't cost us anything. We don't have a budget anymore. I don't know if that's the case. I'm just saying if that was the case, I don't have an issue with that particular area. Using it to take away jobs, using it when you have somebody on staff that could do it, when using it when you are distorting information, I have a big issue with that. But that was my stance on the Civil War side of it.

And now you feel about that stuff. No, I think that's a good point. I definitely see all the time with places like BuzzFeed and Complex that I follow on social media when they're doing things like, this is what the quintessential person in every state looks like according to AI. And I've never used AI. I'm just so afraid of jumping in once and then having everything taken. But I click on those articles because it is kind of fun and someone did create that article to your argument in a way that they wouldn't have law.

They wouldn't have done the article. You know what I mean? So that's their job is to find social. And I think that it's a gray area, but it is less harmful for sure than like putting something in a project that's like I did this. Yes, I'm just, I understand the people who are very much like Mike and other people who are very much against it in general, in general, right? Like, but I think that there's also that like, hey, you shouldn't use it at all. And Mike and I talk about this off air. It's a tool that's here and is in the same way that I feel like Twitter should never have been used in the first place.

I feel like Twitter. I think Twitter is detrimental to society. I think social media has destroyed society. but I still use it. Am I a hypocrite? Maybe. I use it to, you know,

help my stuff as far as promoting things and other things too. I try to not use it and I have been pretty good at it in the way that I feel it's really hurtful. Like saying things to people that I don't know because I don't agree with them or yelling at somebody or going after them because they politically don't line up to where I do or they didn't like a movie that I didn't like. that kind of stuff, I don't do that. And I'd say, I'd never done that before, but I've realized to me it's not, it's not conducive to my life and my mental health. In the same way that, like, there are people who are like, okay, I will never use AI. I think that AI is damaging.

It takes away from creatives. I think it does this thing, and I think that it's completely dangerous of what it could eventually do. Is it too tough shit it's here deal with it? I don't think that should be a mentality, which it is. There is one. But it is a tool that I think can be used for good. The question is human beings have proven time and time again that the chances of it just being used for good, slim to none.

Here's the thing. AI should be using to find cures for cancer. Which they are. You know, it shouldn't be used for... Again, it's, you know, I read a book the other day. Good for you. Yeah, I try to read a book a week. be well right. Yeah. And at the very end of it it said

nothing in this book was created by AI. And I was like, it's the first time I've ever seen that. But I appreciate that because I know if I pride in a few prompts, I can get a 300 page novel done out of it. I'm not going to do it. Yikes. But also to your point, like, it's there. We can use it. But like, I saw the other day and if you saw this. It was like that Boston Dynamics, but it was like a robot that shot a flamethrower. It was like a dog robot with a flamethrower. Like what fuck are we creating that for? What for? Is it like a robot? butt dog with a flamethrall ride.

That's awesome. But like, like, did not we watch Terminator? Like, did not we watch these movies growing up that we're like, oh, these are awesome.

I want to be, I'm going to be John Conner. When I grew up on me, the resistance, AI, bad Terminators, but we're like, we're creating these things in,

and, yeah, I understand the fear. And I didn't do this when everyone did it. When everyone was like, look at my face in the AI and it made like,

you know, superheroes out of and I was like, no. And I have actor friends of mine that that's their profile picture on fucking Facebook. I'm like, fuck you. Curses are going nuts.

I'm going to me. I'm so fucking hot about that. Like, I'm of the mind of like the whole like it's here. We got to get used to it. No, we don't. We just say like, especially in the entertainment industry, we can say no, we're not using it as a film, as filmmakers and is a production. We can say no way he's going to use in this. But that's my point. But the money man, I'll be like

we can say how much money by this? They're a big part of it. But it's not just the money man. Because in the same way, like you said, this pops up. Oh, I can do this. Oh, I'll try that. Oh yeah, look at it. It's a dog with a rocket launcher.

Here's me as Elsa. And Frozen. But yeah, right. And, dude, I saw one yesterday that was really crazy. And I don't remember who the guy was, but he said, he said, and I don't even know how he did it. He goes, this on the side to the left is not me. It's the AI. And it was him sitting there.

And this is me. He goes, the one on the left is AI taking all of my podcasts and things that I've said in the past and he's going to answer questions as me and I'll ask him. So he's asking his AI version of him. Oh my God. And you cannot tell the difference. At all. So dangerous. At all. So dangerous. So scary. That's a that's, I mean, I know AI has been in the works for a while, but since it's really been in the forefront, it's been about a year or so, right? It's like blown up. So what is that type of technology going to be like? Because right now with the art that you even that you see. This is the difference though.

That's going to be the scary thing for you. Right now, you put in an AI art of any celebrity or anything to. Most of them has that weird face, or you can tell the AI art. At what point is the AI going to get so good that you can't tell the difference? Did you see, like, anytime someone, and I see a lot through Twitter, the little, like, 1960s Batman movie. Right. And I'm like, I see the first image, but I don't click. I'm like, it looks cool, but I know it's AI.

But did you see the thing with Will Smith, like a year ago when he was eating spaghetti and was just like, and his hands are turning to spaghetti and now they did it now and it's him eating spaghetti you're like, oh my God, in one year. Look up Eddie Merck or Will Smith the way you could tell. But it's like it's

Yeah, but now they're fixing the hands. It's gonna be insane. Because that's the whole point of AI. It's intelligence. It's learning. What point does someone like some supporter take a president that they love and do an AI thing about him and put it through social media

and it's about. Of course. And you won't be able to tell the difference. That's the main fear of it. I mean, look at the AI. It's already happening. Look at the AI porn. The whole thing that they did with AI porn. The thing that they did with Taylor Swift.

Like that was that. It was something that was going on. So they put her face on like a, yeah. They've been doing it with a lot of celebrities. Yeah. And then they, Drake and Kendrick Lamar, basically the entire rap industry is in beef with Drake right now, which is like the funniest thing to me because Drake's been, he used to be my favorite. He's such.

a dick. It's just a turd now. Which one's Drake? He's the one that was beaten off on the couch. Champagne Poppy. Champagne Poppy. Is that what you call him? No. Yeah, that's what I call him. It's his Instagram account. So that's like his people say it. Anyways, he's just done a lot of things that are super suss lately. But Kendrick Lamar and him

are going back and forth with disc tracks, but people are AI making their disc tracks before they drop them. And then people really thought that that was their real disc tracks because it's, you You can't tell the difference. Did you see the thing with LeBron? No.

They had LeBron. There was one with LeBron. Actually, you know what? I'll play it. Fucking points from DeLo. You could solve the housing crisis with all those bricks. He better start learning Chinese. Don't think I forgot about Rui Hachamura.

You've been absolutely useless. Better start packing your bags, too. Another no-show from AD in the fourth is, is anybody surprised? Three more days of Darwin, I've got to be grateful for that. It's like I'm being coached by a make-a-wish kid. kid, he's absolutely clueless. I'm glad it's almost over. This is humiliating.

I've already got my flight to Cancun's spilling nonsense. It's cadence. Yeah, it's kids, but it's him talking shit, but the problem is like it looks so and he looks a little beefier in the face and stuff too, but like he, it's like he's doing, you hear

him, it sounds like him, and that's, again, a year of people really working on this stuff. In five years? You're not going to tell the difference. You won't be able to tell the difference in two years. And now, the purpose. And now the problem.

The problem is that there's a lot of people that don't know really exactly what he sounds like or looks like, and they might see that and be like, that's real. Right. The other side of it is to, down the line, is what happens if somebody really does something, says something like this or not necessarily like that. But, you know, but whatever it might be, does something, goes, let's AI. That's not mean. I didn't say that. That wasn't me. I was over here.

I wasn't there. That's people's alibi will be like, no, I was here. That's AI. I can tell you. I can see the, here are the files. and have somebody else do it. It's like the idea of it, it's super dangerous. This is crazy.

So I understand the concern behind it. I understand like that for the most part. And I do think in the same way that I feel like social media is a should have never happen. I'm with you though, Mike. I think that, you know, I wish that you just had this kind of tech that we maybe it's like, okay, look, yeah, we have this type of technology. But in the same way that, you know, for nuclear physics, you can't just openly go and start

study and like and getting access to this stuff. You got to be accepted to these programs. You got to be like there's special programs in order to learn it. So you can't get the secrets in the same way that somebody now can just learn how to do AI and just do it. You should be accepted into a program to learn this tech because of treating cancer, these other things like whatever it could do. If there is an AI kind of technology to figure out a way to beat Alzheimer's, whatever it might, all these things because in a way that we,

you just try to crack the code on. Simple math is like is a pain the ass. Like, yeah, go ahead. I don't know. I just think, you know,

I work in theme park, you know, seven days a week and I see, well, society is becoming. I just think we're, all those movies about the future and like, we're just,

I walk around and I see people like in my green room, you know, between sets. I just see everyone on their phone. Yeah, right. It's everywhere walking. on their phone. We're just drones

now. We're all in this AI is going to ease that into being easier. I'm becoming a point in my life where I'm almost 50. I'm now realizing I'm shifting more boomer. I'm becoming like, are you kids' generation? Shake's fist at clouds. Yeah, it's where we are. I mean, I talk

about this every day with people. I think we're going to reach a level of filmmaker that's going to be coming out where everything is going to be shot vertically. Movies will be shot vertically. Movie theaters will have vertical screens. Because the generations of us that are used to this it's going to go away in 30 40 years because it won't be any more of us I hear you know why so everything with this it's just compounding and I had like a kind of a not a crisis of faith or

whatever just the realizing of life and the way I want to choose to live my life now and I have to actively say I'm not looking at my phone like standing at the line of Chipotle when everyone is standing in line like this yeah I on I actively go no phone in my pocket I'm gonna stand here yeah just look because I don't I can't that. Right. You know, you lose everything.

You're going to say stuff? I think have, you should smoke more. You should smoke more. No, but I think I hear you on a lot of things. I've been actively telling myself, too, to not just be on my phone just because I have a little time to do it. But I, I, I don't think we'll ever go into vertical because virtual reality is what's next. So we're going to have bigger screen just.

in our glasses. We already have that. So they'll just be more accessible. But what I do, it sucks because I'm such a fan and at my core. I'm about free will and really, really hardcore about that. But at the same time, it feels like the only actual solution would be regulations on both social media and AI. But people are so fearful. And rightfully so I get that. Like you don't want the government control. But then what's your what's your answer? Because we're going to all be screwed if we don't regulate. Sure. And the other things, too, look at the TikTok

band, right? Like, that is whether, I think they'll wind up selling, but we'll see. If not, the band says that it'll be gone in eight months. And that, that's just one of many social media platforms, but as much as okay, in

my heart or hearts, I get, take it all away. Let's go back to what it used to be. But I also have to be honest with myself, is that that would cost me money. That would cost a lot of people money. Especially, look at all these TikTokers that make hundreds of thousands of dollars, you know, with their platforms and the things that they have. Like, people are going to lose some money doing that too.

But doing what? What do you mean doing what? I don't have TikTok, but every now and then, because of Instagram, it'll do a TikTok video. And I see a girl in a grocery store and a tight outfit getting cereal down, doing this, putting your car and walk through this. Like, who's watching this? For what? Oh, like a day? Like a vlog?

Not even a day. It's just like, hear me. And yeah, she looks gorgeous. But she's in her tight little outfit, getting cereal, purposely doing it, putting it in the cart, walking through this, you know, like in someone's filming her from behind. Like, for what? What are we doing? That's like the one percent. But what do we do?

I agree. What are we doing? Hey, hey, guys, I'm here at Costco right now. And I'm going to show you the five best meals that you can get for under budget to help meal prep on your protein intake. Like, get the fuck out of Costco. filming something. Right. That ain't your personal

fucking set. To answer your question. So if TikTok goes away, I'm happy for it. Right. But that was what I went to. But the thing is... I feel bad.

I feel bad. Okay, first of all, there are some really talented and gifted creators on TikTok and who started on TikTok and, you know, there's like three cast members from S&L.

I think right now that got those positions because they had a TikTok following. A lot of comedians have been able to put their sets on TikTok and get that following. And then there's a lot of just like creative, funny people who are making independent content that I think is really cool and shakes up the studios in a way that I appreciate.

But of course there's on the other end the people that are like make every place their personal set to film. And I do think that there is no boundaries. There's garbage on any platform. Like if you look, even in the television, but like I, what drives me not, I can't stand. like there are some people who do good pranks, right? Like there's one guy,

what's his name? Big boss, I can't remember his name, Boss TV. I can't remember. Big Boss Balls? No, I don't know. But this,

but I like, big Dawes, Dawes, I think his name is. Him I like a lot because he does stuff, he, he'll like prank somebody,

like he, but then he goes and he gives somebody like, you know, 10 grand, or he throws something up in there. He goes, if he catch it,

you keep it. And it's like, it's like cash. And he's helping people out and he's doing things, but he's being funny kind of vein of like practical, impractical jokers

like that type of stuff. I like that. I like when people are helping out it as much people will crack on people going those videos of where they'll help out a homeless person and then there's like the spoofs of it going, okay, can I have my money back now? But I, as much as sometimes I think they are doing it for the views,

they're still helping somebody out. Okay, fine. I can't stand the pranks where you're just being a dick to somebody and you go, it's video, man. It's video it's just a prank man. It's just a prank man. It's just a prank. You just threw a mattress at someone through across the aisle. Like it's not a prank. You should get your ass beat.

It's just a prank. Like someone like looking to start fights in like a really bad neighborhood. And then he's like, oh, no, no, don't, don't kill me. It's just a prank. It's just a video man. And it's like, what are you doing? Like that kind of stuff drives me nuts. Yeah.

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Special. Yeah. I forgot. Okay, good. I'm all. That shit goes out. That's right. I'll give you one more story, Mike and then you can leave. Okay. Did you hear this story stuff? No. Okay, good. You know how I feel about Thor. I know, but you're going to be on the minority. Even Hemsworth is on our side now. Oh, God. Thor Love and Thunder made its way into cinemas in 2022, where the film coming off of a franchise critical and box office high with Ragnarok,

doubled down on the goofier tone than that film introduced. The result was 760 million worldwide, but it divided the fan base and came under plenty of criticism for its messy tone, problematic VFX, and weak story. Last year, Chris Hemsworth spoke about what went wrong with it, saying at the time, I think we just had too much fun and became too silly. Since then, he hasn't had a change of heart. In fact, in a new interview with Vanity Fair, it's made clear that the actor still has regrets about the film. Hemphor says, I got caught up in the improv and the wackiness,

and I became a parody of myself. I didn't stick the landing. The article's writer adds that the 40-year-old Aussie says he still can't forgive himself and reportedly thinks he owes the audience another. The lengthy piece goes on to talk about his desire to be taken seriously by famed Autur's end. He makes it Quite clear, he doesn't have Alzheimer's, nor has he quit the business. Hemsworth will be seen in cinemas in a few weeks when George Miller's Furiosa premieres in cinemas. I felt that this was a very refreshing article. He didn't really crap on Tyca. You don't really say anything about Tyca?

He just said, it just wasn't what I wanted it to be. I goofed around too much. I played around too much. And I'm sure that if you really got, you know, the not, what you could. couldn't put in print, Tyke is a goofball. And Tyke is like, let's just mess around. Who cares? Let's just have fun. Let's just, that'll be funny. Do that. And

Christom's like, yeah, let's do that. That sounds fun. And then probably, that movie, as much as I can't stand it. Like, I despise it. More and more, I watch it. If I did a clip of it, I despise it. It must have been so much fun to make. That movie was probably,

you were probably laughing your ass off, having so much fun. And in a movie like that, that can be dangerous. for sure. So you love this movie. Why? Because it's fun. And go. Because it's fun. And what did you guys expect post end game Thor? No. That beer Thor. He became the joke of the Avengers. And it's funny because Chris Hemsworth is so hot that this is what hot men get the pleasure of doing that women. I hope one day can reach this. he can make fun of himself in a way that like actually lands and he can be the joke while still being Chris Hemsworth. And I do think the movie had heart to it.

And I didn't mind. I get the tones were a little everywhere. I didn't mind. I didn't mind you guys. I don't know what to say. But I do like his response. I think it's a very honest. He clearly grew up Catholic where you just like take all the blame for everything.

Oh. And I have serious regrets. Speaking of what, you're going to be happy. I'm two episodes in the Shogun. Oh my God. Yeah. So you got through the second episode. Yeah.

We are, yeah, where are we? So you're on the third? We're almost at the end of the second. Okay. But this is progress. Yeah. And the wife is watching it with me. Okay, that's huge progress.

The second one, by the end of it, it's kind of like arcane at the third where you're like, okay, I'm in it. I was already, I'm ready in after one. Yeah, yeah. It's great. Tom Hardy Light is great. Oh my God. Cosmo Jarvis.

Can you believe that's his name? Is that the Englishman? Black, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell him whatever I want. He's hysterical. Yeah, it's like, get out of my way, Protestant. He is.

He's hilarious. He's Tom Hardy, he is. Anyway, Mike, you have gas. Why? I have gas. Oh, no, I'm just kidding. So overall, you don't like this movie. You loved Ragnar Rock.

I did. And you didn't think you were going to like it. You like that movie? Yeah, I'll listen to you. Yeah. And this, you and I are both on the same page of this movie just missed the mark. It stinks. It stinks.

I wish more filmmakers. I love the goats, though. I do love the goats. I wish film more film. would come out. I wish, you know, maybe Ramey came out. I said, yeah, multiple versus madness. A whiffed that one. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah, I shouldn't have done

another. Indy. But my fear is, and what you said about having fun, that's, I think, my biggest fear with Deadpool and Wolverine. Because of how much fun they had making that movie. And you can tell. You can tell the backstage stuff, the videos that, him and you would do, I'm like, yeah,

and especially when you're improvving, and they were during the writer's strikes or the writer strike, they couldn't write a lot, I get it. I don't know. I have less. I have less problems with those guys because... It's not a problem with them because they're very talented when you're riffing.

It's just because Tyca was so busy. And Tyca was working on 87 different things. Plus, Tyca doesn't care about Marvel continuity. He doesn't care about that type of stuff. And he doesn't really... He didn't even read a Thor comic or something. He didn't care. And if you talk to Tycoeatia again, off the record, he'd probably be like,

I messed around. I made a lot of money. I don't care what these people are saying. Who cares? He doesn't care. But Ryan Reynolds really wants to get this right. Plus, he even makes a reference of it

in the damn trailer that they know that Marvel's in a place right now where he could be the Marvel Jesus. I mean, so I understand a concern, but I have less of it. I don't think. And the difference, even though we disagree a tad,

the Thor movies, they did get sillier as they moved on. The first one was not silly. Had jokes in it, but it wasn't silly. Second one, definitely not silly. Had jokes in it, not silly. Third one got a little bit more silly, but still had a, I thought, a really good balance. It was silly, but had a good balance. And then the fourth one just went completely Saturday Alive, right?

Deadpool hasn't changed his tone. One and two, it's been the same tone. But then why wasn't two as well received as one? It wasn't as good of a written film And a different director and everything too But I thought the tone But I thought the tone was still And I like to

But the tone was still consistent Wasn't any different Do you disagree? Yeah, they were similar tones Yeah But that's a I think that's it For today

You know Mike's gotta go back to see Ryan Gosling at the Fall Guy Were you there when he did that The Fall Guys there Were you on the show? I'm not doing the Fall Guy show I was not Okay

My schedule did not allow. It was a very quick rehearsal process. So I was having a wedding for a week in Texas. But I was there with Ryan Gosling in the trailer and all that. I didn't go in the trailer with him, but I was on the property for the show of that. You'll like Fall Guy. I like it. I've seen it tonight.

It's really fun. I've seen it tonight. Yeah, you'll like it. You'll like it. All right. Guys, thank you. Thanks for joining us here today. Appreciate it.

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