The Kristian Harloff Show - NEW SUPERMAN SUIT REVEALED! DRAKE VS KENDRICK | SPECIAL GUEST SCRU FACE JEAN

Episode Date: May 6, 2024

Drake and Kendrick Lamar have been going at it as far back as 2012. Well it blew up over the last few weeks and you can't trun anywhere without hearing it. The debate has raged on as to who is winning... this battle? What say you? Taylor Swift, Tupac, Prince, Michael Jackson, Snoop have all been brought into this thing. We have a discussion as to who we think won. Switching to box office, Fall Guy underperforms, why? The Acolyte has a mixed reaction with fans. David Corenswet first look as Superman in the suit. This and more aw we take LIVE questions from all of you!

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Starting point is 00:00:38 First of all, you get this big thing that's been going on. You can't turn away from it. If you are paying attention, anything, whether it's movies, TV, music, if you are on X, you couldn't turn away from the fact that every two seconds people were talking about this beef between both Kendrick Lamar and Drake, two of the biggest hip hop artist in the world. So contrary to some people's beliefs in the comment section, for me, when I was growing up in Queens,
Starting point is 00:01:08 it was tribe called Quest. It was, you know, Wu-Tang, Noddy by Nature. Run DMC. I remember listening to Run DMC from Hollis, Queens. And so apparently if you like old school hip-hop, you can't have an opinion on hip-hop now from what I'm reading in the comments. But I don't give a shit because I'm going to talk about it because it was everywhere. And I was like, well, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:01:26 I was talking to because we're going back and forth in the capes and Calustrade and Winston was like, you guys paying attention to this. And it's like, I am. And I was going through a timeline on it because apparently these guys have had beef since like 2012. And it's kind of come back up again. And it went from like, you know, the normal kind of playful beef, whether you go back to what was it, 2019 when Eminem and Machine Gun Kelly were going at it. And the back, was that okay to cover?
Starting point is 00:01:51 Will we cover that by the way? Was that okay to cover back then? because the thing that pissed me up about the comments and was that when you say oh you're just you're just benefiting off the culture here. What the fuck are you talking about? This was a huge thing in pop culture that was everywhere. And I was like, what is this? What's
Starting point is 00:02:08 going on? What is this back and forth? And I went down the whole rabbit hole and listened to every single song. And I was like, okay, well, what's being said here? These people are going after each other's families. And it was like, it was solid. How do you not pay attention to that? I think it would be irresponsible as someone who covers pop culture to not go over this. Am I going to pretend that name five Kendrick songs?
Starting point is 00:02:29 No, this isn't fucking Schmodeon. This is me trying to go, well, what is this? I got to, this is something I want to talk about and something about a topic. And yes, guess what? We're going to talk about the Superman suit too, because that also is a major thing that's going on in pop culture. You know what else was? The roast.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I used to follow George Carlin, Robin Williams. I don't pay attention to a lot of comedians anymore. Can I not cover them? Your point doesn't make any fucking sense. Makes no sense. So not only, am I not going to be the only one talking about this? I got Roka coming in and we got Screwface John coming in as well. And they are definitely, and I don't have any problem saying this,
Starting point is 00:03:08 they definitely have more of a lock on it because I wanted to talk to them more about it. The fun conversation was what I wanted to have with you guys was, who do you think want? Who do you think is winning? Do you think that it is good? The beef in general is good. Do you think that it is going to help music, hurt music? I mean, there's shots taken on everybody. There were shots taken on Prince, Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 00:03:30 They mentioned not necessarily shots of it, references to those two. And Taylor Swift was mentioned inside of this. They used AI big Tupac and they used AI Snoop. And Snoop responded in Instagram. It was crazy. This whole thing just blew up over the last two weeks. How could I not talk about it? It would be irresponsible to not talk about this if I'm running a pop culture show.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So I got to, and I think that if you're going to ask these questions, because no, I don't normally cover it all of the time. But as someone who was a fan of all these particular artists that I just mentioned to you and the influence that it had me growing up in Queens, it would be irresponsible. So we're going to talk about that when Roker is in here. We're going to talk about that Superman suit that was going to come in. we're going to talk about that roast that happened over the weekend with Tom Brady, which was crazy. And we're going to talk about the fall guy. The fall guy didn't do that well.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And it wasn't a bad movie. So we're going to get all of those topics out of the way. We're also going to get any super chats that you guys want. If you want to put stuff in there and at the very end of it, we'll talk about. Right. So by the way, the person is saying like, oh, it seems like a money grab. When I did one piece, which I had never watched anime before in my life, and I started covering it, was that the same thing? Then a money grab because it was popular.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I was talking about it. I was interested in it. So I wanted to bring it up. If I started bringing up stuff I didn't really wasn't interested in and I didn't do the research on it. I didn't pay attention to. Then your point would be valid, but it isn't. So that's what got me this morning. I was in a good mood and I still can be.
Starting point is 00:05:11 But Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. make sure that you put the comments in there and anything you want to talk about today, let's do it. It's going to be a full on show here between me and Roka. And I have I have the link out to Screw Face. Hopefully he's, hopefully he's going to make it his way in here. So that's it.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Let's get to it. It's the big thing on a Monday. Here we go. Somewhere. Oh, there is. How's it going, everybody? Look who is. John Roka.
Starting point is 00:05:56 John, this comment section got me heated. Heated. You're smoking, man. People need to respect you. You might have to do a disc track on the fucking comment thread. No, because it was somebody, it was a fan of the show. It was somebody who's been on here before, who's talked, who's asked questions.
Starting point is 00:06:12 What's like? Yeah, someone nice. So what do I like? But he's like, I want to, this is a pop culture story. It's a pop culture story, which we talk about, and you know from us talking about all the times in New York, the things that the amount of, the amount of hip-hop that I listen to on the daily. because I don't talk it on my show.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Someone like, oh, it sounds like you're trying to benefit off the culture. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? This is like, you couldn't turn five seconds without seeing this on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And dude, I went down the rabbit hole and listened to every single track of what was going on here. And like, because the first one that started out was like that he did. It was Kendrick Lamar
Starting point is 00:06:49 and it was, we had, yeah, Kendra Lamar and Future had done it, right? And I thought it was okay, right? I listened to it.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I listened to the lyrics. And I went down and like I spent so much time going over this looking at this stuff. To say there's not like he doesn't know what he's not going to know what he's talking about. I didn't just say, hey, I heard these two rappers were doing stuff. What did they do? It's like it's like come on. And I'm listening to what I tell you for a little bit, it looked like Drake was lighting him up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And when it started to get nasty with the families and the accusations, it's like a whole new school of diss. And I don't, I don't know. What did you think? This is like you and I were of a generation. We grew up with like LL Cool J versus Cool MoD. People for jam. Yeah, the Def Jam. And then of course we go into the 90s and it's East Coast versus West Coast, right?
Starting point is 00:07:41 Hit them up is one of the greatest disc tracks ever from Tupac going at Biggie. Then you have Ether from Nas going after Jay Z. So like the rap world is littered with great rap beefs, great rap disc tracks that are all over the place you guys can listen to. And now you come into Kendrick and LeMoy. And look, just because, you know, we're not black. Doesn't mean we can't fucking talk about this shit. And certainly it's music. And we understand as guys who love pro wrestling, we understand raps like this are essentially promos.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Where you're going at a guy or you're going at a person, because we've seen female disc tracks as well, where you're going at a person and you're bringing up their shit, their personal shit. You're bringing up the stuff they've gone through. You're bringing up accusations. But Kendrick on Meet the Grams, good. Night, man. That was an, it's talking about ether, which is considered maybe the greatest disc track ever. This is on the level of ether at least. And it is just, and it's such a, you know, deceptively simple approach, but he tore Drake to pieces. And I listen to Drake's response. And Drake's response is like when you're getting your butt kick and you're just on the ropes,
Starting point is 00:08:47 get the occasional jab in and you've just been peppered and you think you're on your feet and your feet look really wobbly to everybody else. So Kendrick in a way, Kendrick just won this thing, absolutely, but you're right. I was initially getting some great shots. I was ready to come in, I was ready to come in arguing that, you know, I don't know, man, but it was like he, like, because Kendrick had put out like
Starting point is 00:09:08 two back to back after Drake put that one out of family matters or whatever it was. And then he's talking to that, insinuating that, you know, Kendrick's manager was the father of one of his kids and all that. And they're like, well, they're really going gloves off.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And then the response after that it was like boom boom these these different shots that were going on and you're right it did to me I was like I don't know man it might look like like Drake has this thing and then it was just like yeah I think you said it right as he's in the corner like throwing stuff and throwing throwing his hands as fast as he could
Starting point is 00:09:40 but it does it reminds me like it is like kind of that old school back in the day Tupac and Biggie and the way that they would go at it and how it was so important for it just again pop culture yeah when
Starting point is 00:09:56 some silly person says, name five songs. How can you say you're a fan? I didn't say that's not the point. The point of this was to talk about what is going on. What is happening right now? Fuck that. Brutism. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:07 But it's one thing, like I said in before we started the show, is like if you would have started out the show and said, listen, this is on, and I saw this a couple times. This is not the same topic that this is unlike them to, to talk about this particular thing. Yeah. And they're not wrong. And it's like, I wonder how they're going to approach it.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I'm like, okay. Cool. It's like, oh, interesting. I didn't. And even someone to say, okay, wow, this is popular. This is going on right now. So they're clearly covering this because it's a popular topic. Again, not wrong.
Starting point is 00:10:36 But to say you're benefiting off the culture and the fact that like you don't know any Kendrick songs. I don't give shit. It's not about that. It's about the fact of like what. And the honest answer to that is I probably know a lot of them. I can't remember fucking names of TV shows that I watched three days ago. I'm going to remember names of songs. Of course.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It's like stuff like that. It's like, don't, the accusation is, it's this new generation, dude, in the same way, the same person that was saying, oh, you don't know this. I can tell you, you don't know shit about 90s rap. You don't know shit about these things. You don't tell me who the Fushnikins are, right? Tell me who, you know, tell me who grave diggers are. You can't.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I can't. Yeah, right? And that's the whole point. You probably can tell me about the new school stuff. I can tell you about the old. But that's what I'm saying. It's like, that's not what this is. The question is, is it a relevant conversation to have about what's happening?
Starting point is 00:11:24 And it is in the same. way that Taylor Swift has brought this pop culture. Pop artists to this phenomenal, right? There's been big pop, you know, pop stars before, but she's like next level in what she's doing. They even mentioned her throughout this whole thing that she's like the top gangster or whatever it is. Drake calls her like the biggest gangster in all of a music.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Right. When he was trying to backtrack on the same track after he went after. Because Kendrick used Antonoff to produce one of the tracks, which essentially went after Drake. So Taylor is like a low key involved in this. As you said, she's not actively involved, but the people she has work with and she has work with Kendrick, which is what Drake was going after, they're involved in this. The fact that they produced one of Lamar's disc tracks against Drake tells you what side Taylor is low key taking in this in this back and forth. So it's no surprise that she's going after Jake because Drake called her out, even though he tried to backtrack
Starting point is 00:12:20 in the same track later on in the song. So I think this is, this is fantastic. And this idea that you can only talk about it if you're black, you're taking advantage of the culture. It's nonsense because the one thing Kendrick Lamar and Drake want this to do is to hit popular mass appeal. Everybody is talking about it. It only elevates their sales and their attention. So we're doing them a favor by talking about that. But I do agree that if you went in kind of not knowing what was going on, if I was just like, hey, John, tell me about what happened. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:52 So why don't you spend a half an hour on it just so we can get the views on it? I won't educate myself on it whatsoever. Then I agree. But I was like, I went through a whole and I was, and some of the, some of the like beats were just fantastic. I'm listening. I'm doing my notes and I'm listening to it. I'm like, whoa, and I have to rewind it. I'm going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:13:09 And I'm like, this is like, you know, to me, you can't turn, you couldn't turn to, two like head turns without reading about this anywhere. And the other thing was the roast. And that's why I asked that question. Like, if you don't follow comedy all the time, if you don't follow it all the time and any of the new comedians, right? If you don't really follow Nikki Glazer, but you start talking about her set, are you not allowed to do that because you don't follow her anymore? What the hell is that? That doesn't make, is, am I, am I wrong in the way that I'm that I'm perceiving that comment?
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah, I know. I think you're 100% perceiving it correctly. That's the frustrating part of it all. I mean, let let us all talk about what we want to talk about. As long as we're doing it in an informed and fun way, that's what's important, right? see somebody in the chat was like, don't talk about black shit. Bitch, I'll talk about what the fuck I want to talk about. I don't know you told me not to cuss too much on here, but I'm, I'm upset with people
Starting point is 00:14:00 trying to police what people can and can't talk about. It's so frustrating. We're a lot to talk about, whatever we want to talk about, as long as we come from an informed, fun, respectful, and interesting way. That's our jobs on here. You start a YouTube channel and you get remotely interesting, and then maybe people can listen to what you have to say. But until then, give me a damn break.
Starting point is 00:14:19 we're allowed to talk about whatever we're going to talk about. And as I said, this only elevates or points out the fact that this is, this has gotten to that level that everything. It's marketing. And it's marketing. Exactly. What do they? I mean, that's exactly right. It's marketing.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And it's the point of like, okay, look, we've got this out there enough. We're going after each other. And every time we'd say one thing about each other, whether it's the women that we're sleeping with. And there was one line that, oh, my God, that I thought was just incredible by Kendrick, which was. but don't tell no lie about me and I won't tell truth about you. I was like, oh, like when I was listening to that, like that was like about his old school stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I was listening to all these. And it just took me back to all the stuff that I had listened to when I was the kid and the things that were coming up. And there were so many different, like the beats that they used and the courts that it was, it wasn't just, I thought it was going to be like a minute track. Somebody like seven minutes,
Starting point is 00:15:14 eight minutes. Yeah. And it is Ken. People are like, well, they don't talk about hip hop in this show normally. No, we talk about pop.
Starting point is 00:15:19 culture the big pop culture stories guess what i don't talk about i don't talk about about roasts all the time on this show i don't talk about comedy sets on this all the time but we're going to talk about it we're going to talk about that we're going to i don't talk about box office all the time but i talk about it sometimes when it's relevant yeah and this story right this story is an aggregator of all of the big news stories in pop culture i've never said that i wanted to do just movies guess what we talk about wrestling sometimes when summer slam when wrestlemania was going on right we talked about every week but it's like oh you guys hardly ever talking about wrestling but now you're talking about wrestling because it's
Starting point is 00:15:50 russlemania yeah because people are talking about it we were interested in it if it was one thing where if i started talking about the real housewives if they had a finale if the real housewives had a finale that was real huge and tomorrow guys i just watched the real housewives finale and it's like why yeah because you don't you clearly don't like that kind of stuff i grew up with hip i grew up with this with so like i can the amount is that's all i listen to there's all that's just This is my freaking mixed tapes of, I would go back and forth to these. I was just listening to Slick Rick yesterday with my same year old. Well, we're East Coast boys, man.
Starting point is 00:16:26 And, you know, rap has been an essential part of our upbringing because we're also, I'm obviously a little older than you, but we're from that time when rap came into prominence on the East Coast. Eventually West Coast came around in the 90s, and they were doing stuff obviously through the 70s and 80s. But it was East Coast where it all really started. And that's what we were. raised in knowing all about the rap culture, knowing all about rap music, and, you know, getting all the, reading the source, all that stuff, you know, reading source and everything like that. You just got involved in all of it. You had friends who would talk to you about it. You all would listen to whenever the albums would drop or the CDs would drop, you'd get together and listen to it. So rap's a big part of our DNA, man. And just because we don't talk about it all the time, doesn't we can't talk about it when it hits this kind of level. And I also think the fact that we haven't talked about it quite consistently speaks to the fact that we respect the fact that the people who do know about it who are much more knowledgeable about this stuff nowadays, they're the
Starting point is 00:17:20 people who can talk about it. But when it gets to this level where every second scroll on your TikTok is about this rap and about this beef, it's time to talk about it. And the stuff that's brought up here between them like some real personal shit, you know? Dude, the fact, they went,
Starting point is 00:17:36 they cut deep and it started out reminded me of like, you know, in the same way that when Eminem and Machine Gun Kelly were going after each other, it was like, that was a fucking malling. There was a lot of punches being thrown but this wasn't that this wasn't punches those punches and machine guns and hand grenades and everything it was crazy but listen so the beginning of this of the stream when i want to put that we were in covering this one of our long-time listeners and he's a very established YouTuber and he's
Starting point is 00:18:03 musician and he's i'm a big fan of his also and i was kind of humbled when i found out that he's been watching us for a while yeah face john and and he's here ladies and gentlemen there he is Finally got you. Oh, my goodness. How are you, man? I just have like a little breakdown trying to figure out stream lab. I'm sorry. You're okay.
Starting point is 00:18:25 You're okay. So, yeah, listen, man. I want to get to, I don't know if you saw this. Did you see the beginning of you? No, I've been trying to figure out how to figure this out. When I was starting out the show and I saw you like in the, you said what I was like, this is what I brought up to John. I was like,
Starting point is 00:18:44 someone goes, oh, you guys don't normally cover hip hop and stuff. It's going to be interesting. I never saw, are you doing it. And then you came in, like,
Starting point is 00:18:52 okay, great. And there were other comments going, you know, you're clearly just kind of trying to benefit off the culture here and try to do this. Why are you trying to cover this?
Starting point is 00:18:59 And I started bringing up the fact, man, that I've been listening to hip hops for a very long time. And I brought up old school. I brought up like, you know, tribe called Quest and like Rick and Fushnikins and, and a lot of,
Starting point is 00:19:12 Grave Diggins is like old school shit that I used to. Okay. Old school shit I used to listen to. So anyway, so I wanted, the first is, if you comment, comment on that. Like, you know, do you think that this is something that, because it's pop culture, it's everywhere, is it something that a pop culture show should cover? Or is it just people who cover hip hop? And the other side of it is, what's your overall, who do you think's winning?
Starting point is 00:19:35 I definitely think it's something that any and everybody should be covering. I mean, if you're like a fan of the genre. And I don't understand why if you do movies and stuff like that, you wouldn't have crossover because of soundtracks and stuff. Like I said, I've been watching you for years before I even had a YouTube channel. And I would see how you guys would always talk about soundtracks and stuff. And like, I can't remember. I think it was one of the Transformers movies where it had like the Biggie.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I think it was the, I can't remember if it was the last one, but I had the biggie for the trailer, the music. And I remember that you guys were breaking that down too. So I was like, there's always been a through line with music and stuff like that. So, yeah, I don't find that weird at all. And who I think is winning at the current moment, I would have to say Kendrick Lamar at his current moment. And I actually have been like reserving, saying that on my own page and stuff yet because I've been waiting. but if you ask yeah I think Kendrick Lamar as of right now
Starting point is 00:20:44 is winning and let me just I'm going to tweet out that I'm here too so all my friends yeah yeah so like and because I like to talk movies with you as well too but when uh yeah so and I said the same thing to John when we were talking about it earlier was that I started listening and I was listening and I was listening to all this because I wanted to go through it
Starting point is 00:21:05 but they started going after each other though back in like 2012 So what do you know? Oh, nine. Oh, nine. Oh, yeah. Kendrick. Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Oh, sorry. By the way, I have a little, sometimes when I get too excited, I run. Oh, you're, same here. Same here. You're good. Let me know if I'm talking too much. But they've actually had like a seek, it's been like a hip hop cold war between Drake and Kendrick since essentially they came out.
Starting point is 00:21:34 They had one song together. their, well, two songs. One of them was just them two. I think it was poetic justice, if I'm not wrong. And then they had effing problems. But there's always been rumors that they never really got along. And they've never really been cool. And there's been stuff behind the scene.
Starting point is 00:21:54 So it's been like a long war. They clearly hate each other. They've been on each other's records. Right. I mean, that's the beginning. They were on each other's records. like in on take. Kendrick Lamar is on Take Care, which is one of those several Drake albums. But it was, I think Kendrick is the one that popped this all off with that,
Starting point is 00:22:17 with that track he put out where he was saying he wanted to be the best and be the one that wear the crown. And he called like that essentially insinuate. He called out Drake. I think he called out Rick Ross. He called out all these guys to essentially start the flame war here. That's what's been the back and forth here. So it's been a fascinating thing to watch. I think you're talking. about the control. Yeah, right. Where he was calling out the whole industry. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:43 And then, but there's also been like subtle subliminals that he's been having specifically for Drake. That other one is more like a, this is like a, you know, hip hop is a sport. It's whatever. Let's just have fun. The other, when he goes to Drake at the subtle ones, it's more like, no, I hate you. Right. Everybody else, we can have fun. I don't like you.
Starting point is 00:23:03 So that's what it felt like. I mean, even that one song was like, yeah, you want to hear pure. hate i hate the way you walk i hate the way you like everything it just really like that was like i was like wow because that that was that before that one i was like okay it seems like pretty evenly matched and then it was just like roy
Starting point is 00:23:20 jones back in the day just throwing a combination where you're like whoa it was pretty solid but you'd mention rick ross i mean because i guess rick ross got involved and as a when i was right when i was doing schmodown angles i would listen to rick ross in loop in loop
Starting point is 00:23:36 that's crazy and move that's awesome yeah we're listening to Rick Ross people just because I didn't talk about it all the time but anyway
Starting point is 00:23:44 so um it like the Rick Ross got involved at one point and then yeah then like you said Drake went back at him and they they kept at it and then there was even one thing
Starting point is 00:23:55 where I guess Rick Ross made his another dish track on him but they didn't get involved on that as much because they were really focusing as you said on these two guys just throwing haymakers at each other. Yeah. what it feels like, just to, you know, put it together.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I'll put it in like a metaphor of movies. What this is is essentially infinity war, like the infinity soccer. It's essentially like. Yeah. Who's Thanos? Drake is like Thanos in a way and the entire industry is like the other Avengers because it's literally felt like if you paid attention to this, it's like slow, like Drake's been collecting infinity stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:36 on us here and there and here and there. And finally, everybody just went, you know what? We're sicking. And they all came together. And what it's feeling like is literally that I've seen a lot of people with different means, like compare it to that. And that's literally what it feels like
Starting point is 00:24:53 where it's just like Drake got too big, too powerful, and the Avengers are here to take them out. Because it's literally like 15 verse 1, what it feels like. And yeah, Drake said as much inside of that in one of his tracks, he talked about how it was, it was just basically all these people kind of coming after him. I forget the exact number he said, but versus one.
Starting point is 00:25:12 20 versus one, yeah. Yeah, that's what he said. And you got the weekend, ASAP Rocky, who, of course, you might have some interesting stuff with the rumors about Rihanna and Drake in the past. So what's that all about? That's all mixed in this as well. I think it's a lot. I think it's, I'm out.
Starting point is 00:25:28 You guys, I can't do this. This is same for me. I think also what Drake did, too. A lot of this, I think, has to do with, whenever somebody is on top of the game for too long, people just want to see that person get taken down. That's what I was going to ask you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah, but then on the other side, Drake has also done stuff throughout his career where maybe he wielded his power not the most responsibly at all times. Right. And like even when you brought up the ASAP Rocky thing, they've had a beef from a long time because of Rihanna. So I feel like everybody's now going,
Starting point is 00:26:01 oh, this is my chance to just get everything out about I don't like about Drake and that's what it's feeling like too so it's like Drake actually has a hard time right now because even in some of the songs he puts out he has to battle five other people and then get to Kendrick but Kendrick just gets to focus on him
Starting point is 00:26:21 and tear him down and it's like that we're going to be talking about the Tom Brady roast it's like the Tom Brady roast like everybody you want to start you want to focus in on Tom Brady but wait a minute there's Dana White sitting there wait a minute look over there So there is that, there is that, you know, you also realize that the more steam this thing started to pick up, the more people who were listening and more people were going to cover it. And the more you really had to come with fire because everybody is nitpicking every single little word that you're doing.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And I think that the way it looked like to me was that Kendrick was the one that at first was like, okay, we'll just do this normally. Like, oh, everybody's watching. Look what I'm going to do now that everybody's watching. That's what it seems like to me when, when I was listening to the lyrics. but um and then you know you've got when drake was going after like at first the physical stuff you know the height you know the what the who he's collaborating with and then like the yeah dude the accusation stuff coming in with with with the stuff kentrup was going after Drake with with you know the stuff about the DMs of younger kids younger younger younger girls and
Starting point is 00:27:25 and it was like whoa we're going we're going we're not only going gloves off we're going gloves off blood sport with the glass on the fist. Glass and the knife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To me, too, what it was I felt like in the beginning, Drake and Kendra, like Drake said that he knew this day was probably going to come because of this whole Cold War that they've had. And at first, it felt like, what it feels to me is that when I started hearing these
Starting point is 00:27:54 first tracks, I was like, oh, okay, this is going to be a great battle. But then when Kenner kept going on us, it said, oh, this feels. like somebody hasn't liked somebody for a decade and has planned this for a decade, because it almost feels like Drake didn't even understand where this was gonna go. At first, it felt like, oh yeah, let's talk about this, and then Kenyon said, oh, that's what we're talking about,
Starting point is 00:28:16 but watch this. Boom, and then Drake's like, whoa, I didn't know we were doing that. And then the rumor is the reason why Kendrick's been able to drop songs like this, because the rumor is he's had a 19-minute disc track that switches up beats for years. So he's just been adding to it and adding to it. So at any moment, if Drake drops,
Starting point is 00:28:37 he just cuts four minutes of that out and calls it a song. Well, dude, he did, he did like two back to back that were like, it just came. He did one like hours after Drake dropped his. So that would stand him to reason, screw that he's had this in his mind, or he's had this plan for quite some time to drop whenever.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Because he warns on a couple tracks, he warns, don't make me go down the hole even further. because clearly he's got all kinds of information. But what is going to ask you this? What do you think about this, the recent Drake track where he essentially claims that they leaked this stuff to Kendrick to purposely.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Doesn't that seem like a bit of a backstep? Dare I say, it's a slight bitch move to like say, oh, well, we fed you this misinformation and this is all lies now. It doesn't, it feels like you're breaking the rules of the disc game by being like, oh, we fed you misinformation.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Am I wrong on that interpretation, man? Yeah, the thing about it that confuses me the most about that angle is if you really sit back and think, it's like some size or cozy, but if you sit, he wants to feel like he's some like, I'm 3D check, but if you think about it, it doesn't really make sense. Yeah. Because if you're like, if why would you feed that kind of information? Right. It's like if anything, and then if you did feed him the information, if I'm Dre, because I'm a rapper too, and I've been in battles too, if if I baited you and you took the bait, I'm instantly coming with the, ha ha, ha, you got took the bait. But at the same time, it's like, why would you even mess with those allegations to do what to come out and be like, ha ha, like, it didn't, if he was doing non-purpose, it did not work the way he thought it was going to work. No.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Because too many people, and Kendrick is such a good writer. This is a Pulitzer Prize winning writer that if you give him that kind of, he's going to write a dark novel and you're going to just be like, at this point, I've eaten it all up. So if Drake comes up and be like, I don't even get like, I was doing it. What? So they capitalize on that.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I don't even get it. To your point, he, so Drake put out family matters on May 3rd. And then Kendrick Lamar dropped Meet the Grams on May 4th, but then followed it up with Not Like Us right afterwards. And that not like us. Marley, yeah. The thing about Drake is his whole thing that he's been able to hold up is he gets the biggest numbers.
Starting point is 00:31:07 He has the biggest hit. So usually when he's battling somebody, he can just, look at my view. Look at my streams. Look at my. But this time, if you look, Kendrick has beating him in views and streams. Every drop. Wow. So that, it's like stripping away his main power and like the,
Starting point is 00:31:26 not like us and like that are like the two biggest hits that came out of this. And I'm in the West Coast. And right now with that song, it is completely just, it's taking over the world. So it's making, I'm feeling like Drake is, what Kendrick did was culturally shift the way that people looked at Drake. And I honestly think the only other time I've seen something like this was with Jaru. And I'll say this because before 50 cent, Jarlu was huge. J-Lo, nobody even thought that, oh, this guy's corny. We all were eating up his music, loving it.
Starting point is 00:32:07 And then it's like 50 cent. Ken was like, this guy's a cornball. Then we all was like, whoa, wait a minute. This guy's a cornball. That's what it feels like. But then it doesn't feel like Jarul was ever able to. to recover from that. And what I'm, it feels like that now, too,
Starting point is 00:32:23 because I'm seeing like people turning on Drake where it's like the internet is destroying him. Nah, Drake was trending yesterday after he dropped it. So everybody, everybody was like, nah, that ain't it. And Kendrick is more, what Kendrick did that was genius was he made Drake the representation of the industry and like the fakeness of, of entertainment. And then he was like, I'm the alternative.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I'm the real. I'm the art of it. So now he almost put you in a position where you're like, well, if I like Drake and I'm rooting for Drake, it almost feels like I'm not rooting for the art. I'm rooting for the business. He made Drake the business and positioned himself as the art. So it's almost like really cool to not like Drake right now, which is this the first time in Drake's career I've ever seen that. But that's why.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But dude, that's exactly why. And I'm so glad that we covered this today. of a conversation like that in the idea of how it can shift and that's not just relevant to hip-hop that's relevant to movies that's relevant to television that's relevant to books that's relevant to whatever if if you are in a public perception and one person inside of your business or whatever shifts that public perspective like that it can change right now i don't necessarily i think your points are i think the draw rule comparison was was genius i think that but when you come to Drake, right? And like Drake has this level of superstardom that is just right now seems unmatched.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Do you think, though, do you think, I mean, I know you said you saw people turning on them and stuff too, but is that like, people turn on everybody when it's cool to turn on it. And, you know, people are loyal until it's opportunistic not to be, right? So the question is, you know, like that, Drake could come back and everyone's like, oh, I like Drake again. Or do you think that this is, he's in serious trouble, the brand's in trouble? At first, I was just like, at first I was saying, Drake's, I mean, this is just like a battle. Drake's going to recover from this, if anything. If you ask me personally, I actually have more respect, like, assuming all of them accusations are false. I have more respect for Drake as an MC for even doing this because Drake got so big that he was basically a pop star.
Starting point is 00:34:43 He didn't even, he could have just acted like he didn't have to. do this. Sure. As time kept going and as the songs kept dropping, at first, I would see, like, Kendrick would drop a song, and then Drake's die hard to attack it. Drake would drop a song, and then Kendrick's die hard attack it. What it felt with the last two is I'm not seeing the Drake die hard as much. And it's, I don't want to be a prisoner at a moment, but it really is starting to feel
Starting point is 00:35:08 because everything, if you go to Drake's comments on his last video, it's bad. If you go to his Instagram things, it's bad. So it's almost feeling like it, maybe this is a non-answer because as of right now, it feels like this could affect Drake's brand. Or if it has affected Drake's brand, I just don't know to what extent yet. So, and Drake is, there's also a rumor that Drake's about to take like a mini vacation after this. And honestly, Kendrick did such a genius move where Drake kind of has a lose-loose. Because if he takes a break right now, it's going to look like, I made a metaphor on my video. Because I always said Drake's biggest problem was he was when you're too omnipresent,
Starting point is 00:35:51 when you're two around, people just get sick of me. It doesn't matter what you brought them. You could have brought them 10 years of enjoyment. If you're eventually people like, I don't like this guy. It could be for no reason. And he was too omnipresent and never took a break. If you look at like the Nazes, the Jay-Zs, like the bigger people, they always took like, they drop, they take like a hiatus and let the music speak for itself.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Drake is just on everything, just prolificated to a point where it feels like now people are so sick of seeing him. But even if he takes a break, it's going to look like they threw him out the party instead of he left himself. And that's going to hurt him too because I don't even know. If I was Drake right now, like if I was Drake's management, I would have no idea with information. Because I would say you do have to respond just so it doesn't look like. like they threw you out, but at the same time, if Kendrick does have like, because there's a rumor he might have like four more songs,
Starting point is 00:36:50 what are we going to do with that? What are you going to do? Yeah, because he's just going to keep throwing punches and it's like, so. No way out. Yeah, there's no way out. But unless he drops a monster, monster track, there's no way out for Drake at this point. You said, he's,
Starting point is 00:37:03 Kendrick has outsmarted him and it is a lose-lose. It seems to him. Kendrick was, I mean, sorry, Drake has been used to winning these battles for quite some time. So I think he thought, well, I'm going to step down and wipe this guy out and this will submit me forever as a legend. As a legend. But Kendrick, as you said, I think he underestimated Kendrick and he underestimated, underestimated the hate people have for him and how many rappers were willing to jump into the fray and go after him. And I think now he's in a situation where,
Starting point is 00:37:36 because he did release a follow up to meet the Graham's and it just, it doesn't have that same strength. So unless he dropped something really hard, he's, and even if he does, as you said, Christian, if Kendrick has like, I don't know, 10 more minutes of uncut stuff that he can drop, he's never going to get out of this. It's perpetual. So I don't know if you can give up, you know. Do you do damage control and say, all right, well, in the eyes of people, we might have taken a loss, but let's mitigate the loss because, or do we gamble, throw out a song, and then Kendrick has something, because you don't know, every song is. seems like Kendrick dropped.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It seems like it gets worse for Drake. So it's like, do we just cut it here and just take whatever? You do the Homer Simpson's back into the bush. Yeah, just pack like it didn't happen and just be like, all right. Not as and Jay-Z figured it out. You got to figure it out. You got to figure it out something out. And they probably could.
Starting point is 00:38:29 But I want to stick to, hey, and Scruffis, how long do we have you for? It's whatever. I've honestly been this. I'm, I'm smiling like an idiot this whole time because I'm like, I don't even believe I'm here right now. We're honored to have you. We're honored to have you. And so I'll say this, because I don't think that Kendrick and I don't think Drake will definitely do this.
Starting point is 00:38:49 But Chris, you're watching in the comments. And I see you keep running your mouth. Here's what I would say to you, because those two guys, they're not going to squash the beef. I say right now, let's squash it. I'm not going to bring you up anymore. You don't comment anymore about this stuff. You've been a wonderful fan. Mine is today.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And if you want to throw up more shot in, if now, if you want to keep going, then you know then you can find another channel but if not i'd love to have you here so let's call it a beef squashed if not then that's up to you my man but i say let's just call it call it a day because we have other things to talk about there was that this there was this superman suit there was all these other things but before i do before i get to that i want to tell you guys real quick as we do each and every week we have our wonderful sponsors here and the first i got to tell you about is um is rocket money and i don't know if you guys are using rocket money but they are absolutely wonderful i Love them and because you get these subscriptions sometimes that you don't even realize that you sign up for and you're like, oh, it's going to be free for 10 days.
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Starting point is 00:42:13 I know people like, oh, wait a minute. You got a ads in this show. Yeah. And we get ads wide because there's a lot of different reasons. One, I make sure that I get ads for people that I think you're going to like, right? The other thing is, it's a free show. So we need to keep it on the air. And in order to do that, we get great sponsors. So thank you for checking it out. Links in the description. Benefit on those deals, I'm telling you. All right. So, yeah, so, scruff, let me ask you. So you, you said you were watching, when did you find this show? I'm so curious how this always works. this is so crazy because
Starting point is 00:42:46 man when did I start I watched when he was you you and Mark for sure I was before the
Starting point is 00:42:56 shmow down I watched all of the smowdown I'm trying to think of when I started enough that you know the birth of the schmodown as I said
Starting point is 00:43:07 10 years ago oh yeah oh I used to be I tapped in I'm sure if you like type in my name I don't know if you can do and look through the comments. You'll see ones from...
Starting point is 00:43:16 Oh, that's cool, man. Yeah, so a long time. I couldn't pinpoint a year, but maybe 2011, 12, maybe-ish? I'm 13. Humble. Thank you so much. I'm so glad. You're always in here throwing in the comments, and I appreciate the kind of words. And you and I have been talking back and forth about trying to get you on and
Starting point is 00:43:38 collaborating, so I'm glad it worked out here today. You know, the funny thing. I was in the gym when you called me, And I think I did the fastest gym session. People were in there looking at me. I was going from one machine. People were looking at what is wrong with him? And I was trying to get right out because I was. Well, we'll do this again, man, because this is a blast.
Starting point is 00:44:00 I'd love to have you. Yeah, definitely. All right, cool. Yeah. And so I see people, by the way, I see people throwing in the super chats. Don't worry. What we do is we go through all the main topics and then we get to them at the end of the show. So, all right, the other thing that was going to, and this is actually kind of the lead.
Starting point is 00:44:14 story that we had put there, this new image, man. James Gunn puts out this image of Superman. Everybody's been waiting for the new suit. It's here we go. This is the new suit for David Corrin Sweat as Superman. He's lacing up. There's some stuff going on in the background there. And, you know, the city's getting blown up.
Starting point is 00:44:32 And he's very casually. It doesn't look like a very, you know, tapped in Superman. Things are getting blown up. He's going to put my boots on. But there's the shot itself. People apparently are losing their minds and not in a good way. on this suit. The suit looks fine to me.
Starting point is 00:44:47 It's a suit. It looks it's a suit. It looks fine. I have no issue with it. I think that maybe it's a little overdone. It could have been a little. I think maybe people are looking for the more traditional simplistic Superman suit, which to be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing. This does seem more so in the vein of
Starting point is 00:45:06 what they did in the Latin X-Snider's universe. And I thought they were kind of getting away from that particular look. but I it's a suit it depends on how it's it's not the suit itself it's the person who's wearing the suit and how that person's going to benefit that suit but john you i saw your tweet you said you had a lot of thoughts about it yeah yeah i mean i don't think i get what james gun was going for which is hey i'm just like you except that i'm a superhero but i put on my boots one one boot at a time to go to work um and i don't mind i like the costume i like that there's like uh
Starting point is 00:45:42 dirt on the logo, which means that it's been used a lot. He's, you know, he's been working. I like the upper shoulders area. It's got like a kind of an armor feel to it in the top, which is a very military thing in my mind when I look at it. So I like that vibe. But I think the overall goal of this is you want to wow people. And the fact that the reaction has been split as strongly as it's been split.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I don't think this is one of those situations where people are always going to find something to complain about. I think there's legitimate issues here that you see him in what looks like a very casual approach to the fact that some AI thing behind him is destroying Metropolis while he's calmly putting his boots on in this massive bayfront window in essence to the city
Starting point is 00:46:23 so to me I don't think it 100% got the job done but I like corn sweat and I like the look of the costume but I don't 100% think the picture was the right way to go about it's a bit underwhelming for me. Okay and so by the way do you like to be
Starting point is 00:46:40 referred to as? It's just screw face screw or screw face John. Whatever. But I, but I, so is John, is that your, is that your, your first name? No, oh, I thought, I don't know if you're talking to John. Yeah, I was the truth. No, actually it's, I can just do a quick thing. The name, screw, because it actually ties the movies.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Yeah. I was, I spent like the first, I was born in America, but I spent like the first, was six years of my life in Nigeria. My dad came from America to Nigeria. Like, he went to America, came back with a box full of, like, what, things that represented America. I'm trying to speed around this. So there was, and one of the things was, and he had a bunch of VHSs. And one of the movies he had was Steven Seagull's Marked for Death. Oh, okay. You got it immediately. I got it immediately. Yeah, so that's when I was little, I watched that and the character, Screwface used to give me nightmares all the time and scare me. And I basically took the name and reversed it. What used to be
Starting point is 00:47:49 like one of my biggest fears is now my... I love that. Batman. I love it. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And John just came from like, to keep it real, I was writing a song one day when I first took the name and I need an extra syllable just to be honest. And I thought about it and I always liked Wyclef, John. I always liked the... The jean, just the way it was spelled. I don't know. It was just unique to me. So I just liked the way it sound.
Starting point is 00:48:16 I threw it on there. My name is actually Darrell. It's not. Okay. Oh, all right. Well, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, let me bring that picture up again. And let's see what, overall, what your thoughts on it. It kind of, um, reminds me of the injustice suit.
Starting point is 00:48:35 If I'm not, um, if I'm not wrong. Maybe, maybe I'm looking at it wrong. But then I also say, it's, it's, it's, it's hard. hard to know what it's going to look like because obviously I think they're going to throw like CGI and different stuff on it. So just like a static picture, it's a little hard for me to, I kind of have to see it moving on camera to see what it looks like. But from here, I can see what John is saying, though, and I can see people's issues, but I also think you kind of have to give it a little time to see how it plays on camera. Yeah, same. I mean, like I said,
Starting point is 00:49:06 it's this right now is James Gunn. He's casting really, his, the cast has been fantastic in this film like absolutely fantastic there are the concern yeah there are there are there are concerns it's fantastic to tell you the only thing i wish he could have could have been a little better had he put me yeah i love it yeah so he um james gunn though has been doing the casting wonderfully and now the question is going to be you you you wonder people like oh there's going to be too many characters in it and we need like a more focused on Superman storage which he said we're getting that we just happen to set up the rest of the world behind them so look the last couple of movies James Gunn is done I've been on board with I like them so I'm trusting in this I don't mind this suit I think that we are you know the internet culture you're going to look at and if you don't like it you should be allowed to say I don't like the way that looks and you should be able to say it in a way and that's going to be kind of going to our next conversation that I think because man over the weekend the Acoly trailer hit on Saturday, which normally doesn't happen.
Starting point is 00:50:16 They don't put it out on Saturdays, but they put this out on Saturday because it was May the 4th. And what a weekend Star Wars had, too, by the way. The Phantom Menace, which came out in 1999, was the number two movie of the weekend. It made like $8 million or whatever it might. Something along those lines.
Starting point is 00:50:36 It made a really, like re-releases normally do like a million or something. This movie made $8 million on it. And it was the number two movie underneath Fall Guy, which underperformed, which we'll also discuss. But it had a start was at a good weekend, right? And then this trailer comes out, the Acculay trailer comes out. And it does bring up a conversation in pop, in pop culture, fandom in general. It was the same thing that I saw. And I was very clear in my reaction to it.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And I had this conversation. I called John Broker that day. So I said, I go, look, I was hoping the first one was a little underwhelming. I was hoping to really like this and lock into the story a little bit more. The trailer looked generic to me. It didn't look, even though it's not shot on greens, on the volume, it looked like it was in the volume. It looked like overly clean to me. I don't really have a lock on who these characters are so far. It looked a little bit, yeah, it looked generic. I said, however, I didn't see the show yet.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I haven't seen an episode. I could watch. I've seen trailers for movies that I thought were going to be terrible, and I wound up loving them. I think Edge of Tomorrow is one of those movies, right? So it happens. And I very well could love this series, because what I heard, I heard the fight scene that they showed at the end of Phantom Menace was wonderful, but I didn't see it. So I said, if you love this, it's great. Tell me why you did.
Starting point is 00:52:00 If you don't, you know, also tell me why you didn't. If you don't love something, you shouldn't be told that you should love it. If you do love it, you shouldn't be told that you shouldn't. It's like I kept seeing this one comment. I kept coming and going, why are you judging a show and saying you're going to hate it before the show even comes out? I was like, I never once said that. Now, once did I say that inside of that?
Starting point is 00:52:22 I said the exact opposite. I said, if you are excited for this show, that's amazing. And I'm so glad that you do. Nobody should be criticized for liking or disliking a trailer that you saw. But I'll start with you. So screwface. What do you think about this trailer? Did you like it?
Starting point is 00:52:40 Did you not like it? What say you? I actually haven't seen the trailer. So I can't, but I can speak on what you were saying about people not like this stuff. Because, you know, I do music reviews, which is the way that people act with movies and music is essentially the same thing. So it's like, yeah, everybody has a right to like or not like something. And to be attacked for not liking or liking something is the weirdest. because I also go, so what do you think is going to happen?
Starting point is 00:53:10 Are you going to, like, bully somebody into liking or not liking? I don't think that works like that. I think if you like something, it doesn't really matter what a comment is going to say. It's not going to change. It's a waste of energy. Yeah, now, John, you have seen this. You and I talked about it. You were on the opposite side of this.
Starting point is 00:53:27 You really, you thought it, you liked a lot. And you and I, listen to this. We had a pleasant conversation. It's possible. We disagreed. We said some things. I said, you know, I made some points. and you said, oh, yeah, I see those points.
Starting point is 00:53:39 And you made some points. I said, I understand why you would say that. And we talked like humans. So what did you? So tell me why you like this and then I'll tell you why you were wrong. There it is. No, I did. I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I like everything I've seen so far. I like this story. I like the new characters. I like the actors that are involved in this. And I liked this trailer. This trailer had a bit more darkness to it, a bit more of an edge to it. That's a last shot of Legion J there, swinging his lightsaber. and then seeing one of the Jedi,
Starting point is 00:54:08 a young Jedi turn, you know, their eyes go black, is there some kind of power being used here that we haven't seen before in the Star Wars universe to convert the Jedi in this way? Are the Jedi who light their lightsabers up? Everyone thought in that first trailer, oh, they're turning the lightsabers on against a Sith, but those were cuts.
Starting point is 00:54:26 We don't know if that's the actual same scene. They could have been turning their lightsabers on against Lee Jun J's character because they have been changed to follow the Sith. and now it's going to be a battle him against all these young Jedi. So very interesting stuff. So there was a lot here that I enjoyed and I got more of Carrie Ann Moss finally. But I'm a little nervous about that because they're only showing her a little bit.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And either they're keeping her role under wraps or she's not in it as much as people think. And so there's a lot of questions I have coming out of it. But I like that we got more with Daphne. I like that we got more with everybody involved in Mendel of Stenberg as well. So to me, it did what it was supposed to do, which was to get me, to see their show yeah i think that that's the problem and i and again the respect of the the respect of the disagreement right was where i didn't i i wanted it to get me excited for the story of the show but didn't like i just felt like i've seen that story a thousand times over plus
Starting point is 00:55:22 the fact i'm trying to like how did i master and the jedi the patawan turning on the jennine and then there's a you know no they haven't done the murder mystery thing and that is intriguing to me for sure but the idea of like well there's the mysterious force and they have to figure out what it is and like it's i felt like they were going for uh-huh moments look a lightsaber oh you know and so i'm like there's only so much that you can do until it's like show me what the show is about and i think that what i'm curious about and i'm not i haven't seen the episode so i can't judge it yet but i'm curious if they are going to kind of retcon that comment of the sith have been extinct for millennia but what about all those people that were fighting against that thing that
Starting point is 00:56:00 seemed like a sith with the mask that looked like you know at the end had the teeth on it remember that when that happen no they're all dead oh so no no one put that into the into the system so we don't know okay well explain it if if it's explained and like oh i want to sit there and i want to go oh that's why they didn't know if and they very well could do that i'm just saying from what i saw in the trailer i'm looking at it going i don't know if i care about any of these like characters yet where i'm like set up going oh like so here's john you'll be excited to know that i am about three episodes into Shogun. Yeah, good. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:56:36 One of the best I've seen in a very long time. Now, the trailer itself, I watched the trailer. The trailer is good and you're like, oh, okay, I'm intrigued, right? But it's when you're watching these episodes, now, like, all I want to do is watch this show because I want to know where the story is going. They actually could do that. If it locks you in and you just, okay, next one, next one, please, please, please. And they're going with two to start.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Yeah, who knows? So, you know, I could, I'll say with Star Wars, because were there. Okay. I actually just watched it while you guys were talking. You watched it. Yeah, I actually just looked at it. And one thing I can say without like, you know, paying all attention. I do like that it seems like to be a darker tone, but I do see what you're saying where it feels like there's a possibility if it comes down to the way the story is told. It could be like what we sound like Obi-Wan and what we saw it. It is kind of the same story. it's like this person is bad and then they get yeah we've seen that a lot actually in um star
Starting point is 00:57:39 war so i did definitely see the issue but one thing i did like was the choreography though i did like the choreography that a fight yeah yeah and what they said though that scene that they showed a phantom medicine which i did not see apparently the scene is is like a more detailed like the core of the fights are supposed to be like next level so i'm i am i have my fingers crossed where I'm going to go, this was not what was represented in that trailer. That's what I'm hoping. But, you know, speaking of which,
Starting point is 00:58:06 staying with Star Wars, so you mentioned Skeleton Crew, Skeleton Crew is a show that was supposed to come out at the end of last year, but now that's coming out, I hope that they change the name and they call it Star Wars Skeleton Crew because I think that's going to benefit it.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I don't think people who are non-Star Wars fans are going to know what the hell Skeleton Crew is. So I think by calling it Star Wars, Colin Skeleton Crew is going to help it. But Skeleton Crew VFX apparently are old school Star Wars. The MCU Spider-Man trilogy director John Watts says that his upcoming Star Wars Skeleton Crew series for Lucas Film and Disney Plus is going decidedly old school
Starting point is 00:58:44 when it comes to certain production aspects. The new series follows four kids who stumble upon a buried spaceship on their rather sedate planet and accidentally launched themselves into a galaxy-wide adventure as they try to find their way back home. Speaking with Collider at CCXP, Mexico City, Watts advises that you don't have to have any prior Star Wars knowledge to enjoy it. Those who do, excuse me, those who do, though, will enjoy it on many levels. He also says he's bringing back some classic filmmaking elements combined with more state-of-the-art techniques.
Starting point is 00:59:13 He says, I got to use all the cool stuff on my most recent Star Wars show. We had pre-vis, mocap, we shot on the volume, we did everything. But the most fun part was we used all the old-school techniques as well. that includes hiring living V of X legends and Star Wars alum Phil Tippett bringing him back to the franchise to do what he does best he says we got Phil Tippett to do stop motion we did Pat mat mattings I can't speak we did meet paintings thank you uh like real old fashion mat paintings we got an ILM painter out of retirement to come out and do that so to me all that stuff is fun but it's just another tool and it depends on how you use it um so this is cool this is the kind of kind of stuff where hopefully you know it's proof of it is in the pudding type thing here too right roka where it's like okay this is a great soup of you don't have to just cut the volume out completely use locations use old school vfx use it all and if you do that you could really come up with something special i like this plan it's but it's like the execution right right well i mean that's the thing at the end of the day
Starting point is 01:00:20 and just like you saw with the with the trailer just now and you were speaking about the acolyte i'm sure they had those kinds of aspirations as well, but judging from your reaction, it didn't 100% get there for you. So we have to wait to see what we're if, if what they talk about, because we've seen this how many times for years, for decades, right? Production people say one thing, and then you see the end product and you're like, well, I don't know where what you said connects to what I'm seeing. So we'll have to wait and see what these upcoming trailers look like and any footage they release looks like. But they've got the right approach. It's a matter of what will the execution look like by the time we see it and will it line up with what they're saying?
Starting point is 01:00:58 Because I'll tell you, being on the set for that most recent Mortal Kombat movie when I did one of my last set visits, they were, I thought these were the right people to bring this to life. They said all the right things. They seemed very truthful. They were really giving and honest about their love and approach to this franchise. And then you watch that movie and you're like, where the hell were all the words you said when I was watching the movie? Because none of that came through when you were watching the film. So it's all a matter of what it looks like once they actually drop a trailer or some
Starting point is 01:01:28 footage and we'll see if we believe the things that they say. And I wonder, and the same thing is relevant, John, I wonder how much studio inference played into both. Yes. That and then could potentially play into this. But so what do you think, man? Do you think, is this, is Skeleton Crews something
Starting point is 01:01:44 that you're interested in as well? Screwface. Me? Okay, yeah, yeah. The thing about Star Wars Ever since was it the Force Unleashed? I've just kind of
Starting point is 01:01:56 been scared to have pre excitement I can't think of the word yeah because it's so hit and miss
Starting point is 01:02:06 and I feel like for me just me I feel like it's been more miss I was super excited about
Starting point is 01:02:12 that Boba Fed series I just think I was so disappointed that now I don't even if the concepts
Starting point is 01:02:20 sounds cool me. I have to see at least one episode or at least something before I go, yeah, I think this is going to do this or I don't think this is going to do this because they have both because I feel like the Mandalorian when it first came out, it didn't seem like a return to, I can't even think of the word form. But I feel like when they first were promoting it, it wasn't like as big as the movies, but I ended up getting more enjoyment out of that I did the movies. Like some of the movies after that, so I don't, I'm scared.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I'm tebid. I, I'm going to end up watching it. But like there's a lot of Star Wars stuff that I even start watching it and then kind of just fall off after a while. Total, total, total bummer. And someone even said that to me, you know, said I think you've been burned by it too much.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I's like it's, you're not wrong. It just feels like it just, it just feels disappointing right now. Can I say this? because like I get so much crap for like still liking it. Like people say to me like I see it online and people make videos and you know, fine, go make your money. But like they're like, oh, you're a shell, you're a shell, I'm not, I'm genuinely still in that place of hopefulness for what I see.
Starting point is 01:03:36 And I almost always lean towards let's see what it looks like, but I'm interested and I'm curious. And I don't know why that's a negative. I don't know why. to still be excited by it and still have hope that they'll get it right. I don't want to be something else. No, no, but you're addressing. You are.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I just been to other people. No, no, no, I know what you're saying, but you're addressing something else. There's like, this is my initial comment in the beginning. Oh, you're burnt by it, and that's what I'm addressing. Sure, sure, sure. People sometimes into bitter bastards about this. Well, yeah, but it's a matter. When I say burned, it's like a matter of, like, just I think what, what Scribiz was saying, you know,
Starting point is 01:04:13 is the fact that it's just like, it's burnt where I'm like, like, I'm, oh, this is going to be good. And then you're like, because the same thing with Boba Fed is it, it's pitched as like this Godfather Goodfellas series. And it's not. He's like every five seconds. So are you a bad, you're badass? No, I'm Boba Fed.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Just stop introducing yourself. And that, that, and so it just, it was like, okay, that was, it was kind of dull. And then the writing hasn't been great on it. So when I'm looking at it, I'm like, of course I want to get excited for it. And that was my point earlier where if I don't like something and I'm like, I don't know it's like it doesn't mean that i hate it and it doesn't mean that i'm that i'm that star wish fans the worst kind of stowish fans you still wish fans it's such a cliche stupid no one hates star wars more than star wars fans what people say i hate such a cliche stupid you're you're fed
Starting point is 01:05:00 garbage so you start like spouting it out um but in the same aspect what you're addressing john is that it's a political thing though more so like it's it's a they're going up against Disney and they're going up against the people who like, I haven't gone to a freaking premiere or anything too. There's still people who make videos about me. And I'm like, you were still doing this on me? Like six, six, seven years ago, there's so many other people who like Star Wars better than I do.
Starting point is 01:05:24 And you're going out to me, okay, fine. But then the same thing with God forbid they come up with original content. Anyway, yeah. No. No. And it's, but it's, and by the way, and the only reason some people, by the way, when you go to premieres, what these people don't understand is to get your reaction and review out early, but they don't
Starting point is 01:05:42 Yeah, yeah. But anyway, point is, um, those people that are coming after you and doing those things because, like you said, it makes them money. It makes them. If they're not going to, if they're going to make a video where they're reviewing something and it only gets 100 views, but they go after you for liking something and it gets 30,000 views. Right. They're going to do that. And it's like it's not, but it's not about. Yeah, it's the game. So there's going to be there's going to be that type of thing that happens all the time, but it's more of a political thing than it is anything else. What happened? What's up, screw? Yes, sir. I don't interrupt you. The one thing that I will say that I always want to get on, like, a platform like this about what I'm saying. And I feel like it gets overlooked a lot. Both sides are just as annoying as the others. 100%.
Starting point is 01:06:30 It's just two sides of the same coin because sometimes I watch, you know, those obvious channels. they almost always have the same thumbnail where it's like a walkie wokeness well they'll go like that and that's super annoying but then I'll go on the opposite side and it'll be like people making fun of them
Starting point is 01:06:50 but don't realize they're just as fanatical okay so I always look at it if you are if you before you see something wanted to fill to me or crazy if before you see something you already think it's it can't
Starting point is 01:07:06 fail, they're just as crazy as the other side, but for some reason, both of them don't see that they're just, the middle is somewhere where it makes more sense. It's just too, I always say this because sometimes people
Starting point is 01:07:22 feel like, if I like it, or if I'm going with an ultra-positive, then that's better than ultra-negative, but to me, ultra-anything before you see is just weird. You, you can just go, I don't know, yeah, let me see.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Yeah, I mean, 100. And you're allowed to be excited about something, right? It's like, for me, for me, it comes back to what we talked about in the beginning there. And it's the matter of, look, if you're excited and you want to see something and you're like, oh, man, I'm really, I'm pumped for this one. And I think it looks great. And then someone says, I don't know, it looks bad. Well, that's because you hate it. You hate Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:07:58 You hate everything. Well, then you're wrong. You're just, as you're saying, you're as fanatical as the guy who's saying, oh, here comes the Star Wars. And of course, you're going to love it. You know, it's like that's the problem, is that because I'm telling you are 100% correct, because that's what I saw in the Ackleite stuff, to where here I am for years where people, like I just said, there are people who still make videos about me and then say that I love everything Star Wars where I, and then I get the same comment five seconds later, you hate, I knew you're going to
Starting point is 01:08:24 say this, you hate everything about Star Wars. And I'm just like, oh my God, you can't, you can't win with either side because they're both, if you don't love what they love, you're the bad guy. and if you love what they hate, then you're definitely the bad guy. It's like, but it turns into a business for both of those sides, and that's where it gets tricky.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Okay. Well, that's what I was saying. Sorry, interrupt. That's what I was saying with, you can, when it comes to the, okay, so like navigating, as a black person navigating, sometimes I'll see,
Starting point is 01:08:59 I tend to go more on the positive side because it seems like, with the people who have the comments about wokeness and stuff sometimes it gets slipped in there where I go, wait a minute, I don't think this is so much about the movie as it, because like
Starting point is 01:09:13 it didn't start with the John Boyoga Reba stuff, but I heard, okay, for instance, I heard people saying with that, speaking on how stuff has gotten so political, I've heard people being like, I've heard both sides where they go,
Starting point is 01:09:31 the people attacking Revo, like, we have a legitimate reason to tie reason, which is cool. And then the other side was saying, like, there is absolutely no legitimate reason to go ahead, which is also, so it just becomes something where it's like, are we even talking about the movie anymore? That's sometimes how, when I watch them, I'm like, I feel like we're talking about the movie anymore. I feel like we're talking about something completely different.
Starting point is 01:09:53 And now it's, yeah, politics please. Yeah. And then now, then the people who are also being like, yeah, Star Wars is too political. now it's like I pretty sure Star was an allegory of the Vietnam War was or like yeah yeah Lucas came out and said like Luke is very a political so I've never understood when people be like this is an allegory of the yeah you know this storm troopers like you know the original storm troopers yes there's politics and everything as far as when it comes to movies and themes and tones but it's more so how the political landscape of like fandom has now turned into extreme right, extreme left, and they've gone after each other. And it's just,
Starting point is 01:10:37 it's bled into the fandom in how we discuss it. And as you said, it's people who are just, because people who have certain channels who hate everything, Star Wars, Marvel, whatever it is, they can't for their brand. What if somebody who makes an acolyte thing every day talks about how much they hate it and they watch it and they love it? You think they're going to say that they love it? Of course they're not going to say that they love it, even because they can't, because they can't. The greatest example of that recently was the X-Men 97. So many of those channels were like, oh, X-Men 97's going to be so woke.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Morph is trans? What is this nonsense? Not my X-Men. How could it be woke? It's like the legitimate foundation of X-Men is approaching the idea of waking people up to the injustice that has gone on to underserved groups in our world. And initially, it was meant to mirror the civil rights, things that were going on in the 1960s.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Then the LGBTQ people, community kind of co-opted that in the 90s into the 2000s and so it's always represented that but all these people made videos going after X-Men 97 then it came out and then by it was written by a gay black man it came out and it was a monster hit people loved it
Starting point is 01:11:46 and those people all of a sudden turn their points of views completely some of them couldn't admit it and then some tried to act as if they didn't say the negative stuff they actually said in their video so it was just it was ridiculous to see that shit because it's all about money
Starting point is 01:12:01 They're just, they got to make their money, so they got to keep feeding the hate. And it's unfortunate. And I also don't understand the, so why sometimes people don't want there to be like political out of allegories in some of like allegories of what's how it's going on the world. So sometimes I ask those people, you know, one thing I've noticed too is when somebody says woke, I go, explain to me what woke is. Just explain to me, tell me what is woke. And then I always go, the one way I always catch them, I go, okay, so tell. me how you make this unwoke. And it's usually just, well,
Starting point is 01:12:35 remove the people of color or the, it's usually just like, okay, what makes this woke? Okay, cool. So tell me how you make it unwoak. It's like, usually you catch them up right, because they just, oh, it is, remove.
Starting point is 01:12:49 Right. Right. And that's not, yeah, that, and you're 100% right. But I do think there's merit to, to pandering sometimes. Not, not, but that's not the same thing. That's not the same thing. Yes. That's been woke.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Pandering is also feeling like you're not, like, well, we don't want them to say this against us on Twitter. So we have to do this. And it's an unfair, it's unfair to the actors or directors or whoever are casting or put in that role because they're now put into this spotlight that they didn't ask for. And of course, they want to take a job. And they're put there because the studio feels like we're supposed to do this as opposed to going, wait, this is the right person for the job. And then there's other times where it's just like, they're the right person for the job. get over it and stop being fucking racist. And that's how it gets.
Starting point is 01:13:34 I mean, there's tons of that stuff that happens all the time. But larger conversations, larger things happening to. Now, we can talk about the box office and everything else when it comes to the roast and that inside the questions because we did get a bunch of questions and I want to make sure that we do that. We did cover the majority of topics. So if you want to stick around, screwface for the questions, you're absolutely welcome to.
Starting point is 01:13:56 If not, also understood. Up to you. I'm here. I'm here. Okay, cool. All right. So, before I move on, I do want to tell you guys real quick, excited to have both built. And I think I talked to you guys before about Roan, but I'm going to tell you about Bill first. Now, you know what stinks? When you're stuck in a loop of rent payments, you're just watching your money vanish into thin air. It's the worst. It's time to turn the rent game around and start earning some serious rewards. How do you do that? That is where Built Rewards comes in. Built is breaking ground as the first rewards program and it hooks you up with points on your rent. Doesn't matter. Even if you're rocking the old school rent check vibes, built rewards, it's got your back. They're going to mail the check for you. It's like basically having a personal rent paying assistant. It's the best. Every month, you pay your rent and you watch the points roll in. Use points to jet off on a dream vacation. Put your points towards a flight or a
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Starting point is 01:17:20 I get things for you guys that I think when they pitch, we have a great advertising company that we work with, and they say, what do you think about this? And I said, well, the audience like it. And I was like, yeah, they're going to like Bill. They're going to like Roan. They're going to like AGEU1. They're going to like Rock.
Starting point is 01:17:34 I know they will. So if you're one of those people who, and I get it a lot, say, hey, how can I support the show? Get yourself something. Do it. All right. We got some questions here, man. We got some questions.
Starting point is 01:17:48 We got a lot of questions. So we're going to start all the way to the top. Any of the things that we can talk about. Now, if we didn't cover anything, whether it was the box office with Fall Guy and all those things and you want to hear us talk about it, throw the questions in there. in there, we are going to cover everything from the top. And I know, John, I think last time we did this last week, I missed two of them because I forgot to be very top. And it was, Carlton, I think, was one of them.
Starting point is 01:18:12 And I'm trying to find, I don't have the actual question themselves that were sent in last time. And I know, I think Travis sent in one too. Oh, Travis Earl? Okay. Yeah, I think they both sent them in. So I want to make sure. I'm going to put it in the chat if they're here. I see it in the comment section. And then they want to send it in there. and then I'll highlight it because they sent it in and I missed it last week, so it's bummer about it.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Okay, so we're going to start from the beginning here, and I want to make sure that this is it. So Matt Boyle, I think, is the first one, right? Matt Boyle is the first one here. Adam Ray doing his doctor, Phil Bitt is hysterical. Have you seen him do any of his clips? So I don't know if you put that in there because you know that we used to have, Adam Ray used to be on our show all the time during the Shmoza era.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Like, he used to come on and do Toning Danza and Ellis would do Alf and I would do Arnold. and we had like we had like three bits and he started doing this doctor phil thing recently he's got everybody on there man he had bill burr on there he's got tons of people on there so he's great i'd love to get i'd love to get adam on before i leave and may 31st by the way um ellis and i are doing a going going away show for me uh at the comedy store and i have a very special guest that's going up also so if you guys are able the tickets are on sale now so you should check it out uh okay so have you guys ever seen adam ray do his thing Dr. Fosta?
Starting point is 01:19:28 Yeah. Yeah. It's actually weird because I started seeing him more pop up. And I was like, where do I know him from? Like, where have I seen his face? And now that he was like, I know, I was like, oh, that's probably for a song from. Yeah, he used to come on the show all the time. Mike Joyce.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I think it was Mike actually that sent in the one that we missed last time. I saw episode one over the weekend. I can see why people in 99 hated it. But apart from Jar Jar Jar and the acting, it's not terrible. episode nine is much worse um yeah roke and i have this conversation every every time these are brought up i have definitely had a new found love for them through and i actually had this conversation with a buddy of mine uh over the weekend who took his son to see it i was sitting watching phantom menace about three four years ago with my my oldest and we were watching phantom menace
Starting point is 01:20:16 and it was one moment in particular right as the movie was starting but i looked over and i saw in her eyes and i in my head i go oh i get it And I looked at, and ever since then, I've looked at the prequels so much differently. But, John, you hate these movies. Why? No, I'm not, yeah, I'm not a fan of Phantom Manus. There's a lot of plot holes to pick apart. There's a lot of nonsensical trade federation nonsense that they're talking about that is completely unnecessary. Yes, Jar Jar still bothers me.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Of course, all my love to Ahmed Best and certainly didn't deserve any of the negative stuff he got. I don't think Jake Lloyd is that good of a young child actor in the film. either. And it just feels a bit cheeseball in a lot of places. That being said, though, the mall stuff you can't deny. That fight at the end is incredible. And people like, and certainly the connection between Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson is fantastic. And so for me, the Phantom Manus isn't as strong as other people. Like, again, though, if you like it, more power to you. It's just not for me. I didn't mind attack the clones, but Revenge of the Sith is the one, is my, the best of the three in my opinion. Yeah. That's great. You're going to say?
Starting point is 01:21:26 Yeah, actually, it's funny because when I came to America, I'm a bit younger than you guys. When I came to America, Phantom Menace was just coming out. Like, I still remember that. So Phantom Menace was my introduction to Star Wars. And it could be because I didn't fully understand in English. But I really liked it as a kid growing up. And as I grew up, I was like, why is there so much hate? And it seemed like more as I watched a YouTube video.
Starting point is 01:21:56 was breaking it down. I was like, oh, I can see. But me, I always liked it because that was my introduction to Star Wars. And I didn't really know anything else besides that. And you had a connection to it as a child. You had a connection to it. And that's, that was, that was what I was saying when I was like, oh, because that's, that's why they have this, like, Hayden Christensen today gets, you know, standing ovations when he walks in because the children who grew up with him. Yeah. Now, you know, in their 20s and 30s, and that's their Star Wars to them. So it's, and it's very curious, and I wonder if, you know, how many haters and stuff there are, and I'm not, I'm not a fan of the new trilogy, but I wonder if those people who grew up
Starting point is 01:22:39 with this one and saw Force Awakens in these movies in the theater for the first time when they were six, seven years old, what they're going to feel like when they're in their mid-20s and how they feel about these movies. So it'll be interesting. Well, and it goes in reverse, because there's a lot of people who like the prequel trilogy in the sequel trilogy, who think the original trilogy is terrible. And think that it's bad writing, bad acting, terrible special effects, boring lightsaber fights, and bad fight choreography.
Starting point is 01:23:03 So, you know, it all goes full circle to me when you look at the fandom. It's all on where you caught it as a kid. That's where it really gets inside of your soul. And that's what you grew up with. And so you're always going to defend it, you know. Which I respect. Malik Terrant, the beef ain't as fun as I'd hope it would be after like that. Everything has just gotten volatile, messy, and exploitive.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Now I just want to go back to 2013 when I thought they were all cool. That's what makes it good. It's a rap battle. He wants a safe rap battle. That's not a lot of it exists. But I also understand the idea where it's just like, you know, there are parts of the tracks that get a bit like, I mean, really trying to rip someone's, like, heart and soul out of their body.
Starting point is 01:23:48 That's dirty, right? You go after his parents? When you go after his parents by name? He's always by name. They went after everybody. Writing an open letter to his family. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:59 So I can understand why someone would feel that way. It's like, oh, I kind of like, I wish they were all friends again. You know, and it's like, you know, it's like, it's like, right. It's, you know, sunshine and rainbows. Yeah. So, yeah. To me, the thing about the whole battle is, as long as it doesn't cross over anything besides music, I, as a hip hop fan, as someone who's always been a hip hop,
Starting point is 01:24:23 this is the greatest battle that I think we've seen because it's the biggest two people that we've ever seen. Even when it came to Tupac and Biggie, one, it spiraled out to something else kind of muddied, made it darker, and, like, in retrospect, it wasn't as good. And two, even if it didn't, Biggie didn't really respond open to hit them up,
Starting point is 01:24:43 like, the way we're going back and forth like that. So it's like, as long as it stays here, I think it's great. Yeah. Malick, again, not going to lie, though. Seeing you bring this up is like seeing a polar bear waltzing through Atlanta or how Roka likes to call that. Yeah, I forget. What was the Atlanta thing? I forgot about that. You know, when I was in the military, a couple of brothers told me it's Blacklanta.
Starting point is 01:25:07 So I've always kind of known it as Blacklanta. It could grow up in D.C. is called Chocolate City. So you just know these things and you respect the names. So, yeah. I remember. I remember. I remember. because that was a shmowdown thing. I remember that. So yeah, I mean, like we talked about, it's, it was something that, and I think we had a really great conversation on it. I'm glad that Screwface was able to join us on it too, and I'm going to go it down even more so.
Starting point is 01:25:31 And Malik follows back up. Broca probably like Kendrick has to gravitae. The big needs to work a little bit more on his spoonship. There you go. Hank Pimp, early money in the bank predictions. I need to see Tiffany Stratton with a pink briefcase myself is for the men. Love to see LA Knight get it. Yeah, I think that that was the reason that L.A. Knight lost AJ Styles because they couldn't have L.A. night lose again in a moment like that to Cody because there's no world where anybody's going to lose to Cody in his first match in. And then Tiffany Stratt and I love.
Starting point is 01:26:03 I thought that I thought backlash was better in person than it should have been on paper. Right. And I think the reason why it's because the crowd was incredible. Electric man. What a crazy crowd that was with singing songs every five seconds. Ryan satin had one of the best tweets ever when he had uh it was who was it from uh oh i can't remember um he was keenan from uh saturday night live and he says this is me trying to figure out all the all the lyrics from the songs in the friend he's and he's just like dancing around and i was like
Starting point is 01:26:34 so stupid it was great but i thought the crowd was really good and it was one of those things that made the event but tiffany stratton is a damn star for sure yep yep yeah and they didn't you see that they didn't let her get pinned by the way nope yeah yeah Yeah, okay. So let's see. And it's early money in the bank. I can see both of those coming forward for sure. Yeah. Scrovis, do you watch wrestling at all? I haven't watched. Like, I kind of stopped after the attitude error, but then I came back for the, like, right, like 2007, I was pretty heavy back into it again. And then I just fell out, but I'm seeing how wrestling is just coming back. Like, it's prolificating every part. I'm seeing like with the Cody Rose and rock stuff. So I'm definitely going to get back into it. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 01:27:24 And actually, I'm glad that you said that too. Because this also goes back to our previous point to make it relevant with the hip hop conversation. You were talking before with Drake and how a matter of like if he can come back for it, if the brand can get restored. Well, guess what didn't do shit? And Roko, we can have this argument about it. That article about the rock peeing and bottles and everything.
Starting point is 01:27:47 that looked like a major thing that was going to hurt him. Umberto's article. It didn't do anything. It did nothing. He posted it. He posted up him MMA training the other day. Yeah. And I was like,
Starting point is 01:27:58 let me see the comments. If it's just like buried by pee bottle jokes and all this stuff, nothing. I saw nothing. And it was, it was one of these, it's like, yeah, he doesn't, he hasn't addressed it,
Starting point is 01:28:07 nothing. These are one of those things. That article is going to come and go. Now, this is very different from the rap battles that we're talking about here. Oh, they're so on everybody's faces and his responses left and right. I'm just saying that there are times when you wears it. There's something.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Oh, this is going to damage your brand. That article ultimately did nothing. Yeah. I mean. Somebody who's somebody who's actually, oh, go ahead. Sorry. I know. Go ahead. Screw. I saw you. I still remember the thumbnail. You, you did for your, uh, wearing a little water bottle with the yellow. I didn't click. So what exactly? By the way, your thumbnails have gotten so much better. Like you're doing your thumbnails are awesome. Like, what exactly was that story? Because I was like, maybe I'm a skittist.
Starting point is 01:28:52 I don't know what to pee. You know, let Roka break it down. Plus give your point there, Roker. Yeah, no, it's just basically that the Rock was, has a history of being late to set. And it has caused problems with other actors, like him and Ryan Reynolds apparently got into a big fight that for years didn't get squashed until recently after Red Notice.
Starting point is 01:29:12 And that he likes to pee and water bottles rather than going to pee in the public bathrooms or in the bathrooms on set. And some of the Teamsters accused him of having PAs or people who involved in the production having to throw those out in the middle. So it was all of that that apparently he's caused cost overruns on the most recent film, the Christmas film, that is $250 million Christmas film. So it was just basically those kinds of attacks that he was disrespectful, late to set, peeing in water bottles overall.
Starting point is 01:29:44 So, yeah, it's not enough to destroy the brand. I agree with that completely. But we don't know going forward if putting all of this in an article combined with the Black Adams situation, combined with the fact that people don't go to his movies at the level that they used to anymore, that there might be some long-term damage in combination with all the stuff over the last few years because quite a lot of people in Hollywood are a little pissed at him for some of the creative financial things he's been doing. And so we'll
Starting point is 01:30:15 see if it bears fruit. But for the public overall, yeah, who doesn't want to, who doesn't want to come in late to work? And that'd be funny. I just don't think it's going to damage. No, I don't think. And I think like the, I think this movie with the 824 movie with Emily Blunt is going to do wonders for his career also. Um, I think so.
Starting point is 01:30:32 All right. So here's the next one here. Joe Hendo TV. Superman suit looks all right, but not as good as Henry Cavill suit. man of steel. I think it looks a little similar. I agree. Yeah, I don't know. Anybody else? Food is better. Yeah. Um, all right. Homelander. It looks like Homeland. Only it looks like Homeland. Homeland. I am two fly cam AWA. Canello versus Crawford being rumored thoughts. Crawford. Come on. No way. I'm from Nebraska, so I got to say Crawford. No, Conello will kill him. Canello is at the peak now as a fighter.
Starting point is 01:31:09 If he fought Mayweather right now at Mayweather's peak, Canello would have beat him. And there's the difference. Mayweather caught him right on the come up, not where he's at now. And he protected that Mexican fighter over the weekend. He could have destroyed that kid and brutally, brutally hurt him.
Starting point is 01:31:26 But he knows that kid's the future for Mexican fighters. So he beat him, but he didn't destroy him. And so I think Canello is at the peak right now. Nobody can beat him right now, my opinion. Uh, good call. The Ridler. I was going on my bias.
Starting point is 01:31:38 That's all. It's fair. Superman's suit looked weird, honestly. It looks like he's wearing two size, too big of a suit. I like both Drake and Kendrick, but Kendrick won. Yeah, listen, you might be right with the suit in that particular picture, but let's see how it looks once he's standing up and he's fighting and stuff too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Oh, there he goes. Butt funnel is here. There he is. Team Kendrick for the butt funnel. Camp, Drake takes authentic music from real artists and repackages it for mass consumption. even if he isn't a bad person, he makes rap music more blend. What do you think about that one, screw? Well, just as an overall look at going back to what I was saying,
Starting point is 01:32:19 I don't think there's been one comment on Drake's side. And I think that's another thing that goes back to what I was saying, where it's showing the kind of damage that's happening because this is stuff Drake's always been doing. And it feels like now people just saw it for the first time. Yeah. And I don't know if he does do that. he I'm not the biggest fan of
Starting point is 01:32:40 because you know I'm Nigerian too so with the Afro beat stuff that he was doing I wasn't I wasn't like mad at it but there's certain things that he says and does in songs or do you even know what that means like are you doing this just for the sound and the way that he jumps from one thing to another
Starting point is 01:32:58 thing and usually when he does songs with artists it seems like it blows him up more than the other artists and the other artists seems to fall off it seems to happen so It's almost like using people's clips on their actual shows to make money off of for your own self without giving them credit.
Starting point is 01:33:16 It's interesting. But the other thing about this too that I saw on TikTok, and I'm not speaking from this point of view, but I've seen a number of black commentators and pundits on TikTok call out Drake for referencing American slavery. That's the thing that they are off about too
Starting point is 01:33:32 because he's a fucking Canadian. It's not even remotely the same thing, but he's referencing American slavery in his things. And I saw a couple of them be like, that's it. No, you can't make any more of those references
Starting point is 01:33:43 because that is not your experience. And so I thought that was an interesting twist that I did not even remotely catch as I was listening to these tracks. So yeah. What makes it the worst, the way he did it, was that Kendrick combated him.
Starting point is 01:33:57 That's what I said. I feel like Kendry playing 3D chess and Drake is playing Scrabble. Like he does it because it's like, Kendrick said, the whole thing is to show, that you are business and you don't care about the culture and you don't care about what's going on in black America. So when he rebuttal and said, this guy is talking like he wants to free
Starting point is 01:34:19 the slaves, it made, uh, like, I'd be like, what's wrong with that? Like, why is that the, why is that this? So, and Drake has also gotten more backlash because when everything happened, he doesn't really have to take a stance because he wants to be like, what's called neutral to a point. You can be too neutral sometimes when certain things need to be discussed and you're like, nah, I got fans on both sides. Let me not run anybody. Then it comes to a moment when someone like Kajik, who does firm how the stance is going to make you look crazy.
Starting point is 01:34:54 That's using what happens. It's like you've got to stand for something. You got to be willing to go, I might lose some fans for this, this is going to help me in the long run because what I stand for. It's like when Eminem did the, when he made for a choice. Trump on that BT freestyle. He even came out and said, I lost a lot of fans from doing that, but I needed to do that, which is like, okay, that that's going to help him along. Cooley, hi. Boy, I love the Superman suit, bro. Is that brainiac in the background? Don't worry about
Starting point is 01:35:24 the haters. They hate us because they hate us because they hate us. Beas the best. Yeah, so Roku, you said, is that brainiac in the background? I mean, that's what a lot of people are speaking. It looks like it for sure. And so we haven't seen him as a villain in any of the feature films. So it could be an interesting choice to go that route. But who knows? Only James knows, you know. The ordinary schmuck. Best line of the Brady roast. Ron Burgundy.
Starting point is 01:35:48 You'll always remember it as Tom. Oh, you'll be remembered Tom as Eli Manning's bitch. Yeah. Did you... It was not the best line. It was a good line. The best line was Nicky Glazer on Grunk. Yes. Even me, though, debt, not real money.
Starting point is 01:36:04 That is the best line, period. It was great. It was great. And then the Jeff Ross thing about the massage where Brady himself gets up and goes, don't do that shit again. All right, all right. It was great. That was staged. And I don't believe that. That looked way too authentic to be staged.
Starting point is 01:36:23 It was, the roast was fantastic. And it was, and it's again showing the difference of like what Netflix does as opposed to Comedy Central. There was a three-hour video, it was supposed to where Comedy Central had to cut it down and edit out a lot of stuff. this didn't it was uh it was it was it was great it was a really good way to do it it was a smart way to to do it in general tom brain i mean they went i mean they really went off on brady so yeah did you do i rokey you loved it right yeah the joselle jokes alone oh my god i said the one the one the nicky glazer she had the best set of the night by the way yes and and she and she said about it not to go basically that he could kick you're how does it how does it feel knowing that
Starting point is 01:37:06 your ex-wife's boyfriend can kick your ass by eating her by eating her ass. It was so good. It was so good. Kevin Hart who said like she said she's had eight classes a day and she's still a white belt. The only bruises her on her
Starting point is 01:37:22 ass and I was like, holy God. Kim K. Bomb. I saw someone else. I was a and it wasn't, she didn't even give her a chance to not mom. She bood her. The audience booed her. Hulter.
Starting point is 01:37:37 I have this thing, this problem where I have second-hand embarrassment. So it's like it's something gross that it's hard to watch. So things like that just make it. I feel her embarrassment. Yeah, it was really good. Gallagos, there he is. Superman is my favorite hero. I like the suit.
Starting point is 01:37:55 It's tactical and not entirely alien. The mood of the pick and the tactile suit feels very promising to me. I agree. I think that you can absolutely, there's some hope to it, if you will. There's some hope. Nick Alexander, tribe called Quest, my all-time favorite. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:08 I like the Superman suit. He looks very serious, curious, what's going on in the background. I mean, that's the thing. That is, that is the whole mystery behind it.
Starting point is 01:38:17 I mean, it does, it's clearly a photo as opposed to him. He's just putting, it's like the, the whole premise of that photo is just another day at work. Yeah. As he's putting his boots on,
Starting point is 01:38:28 he's getting ready and there's stuff going on in the back. You know, you can make the jokes that, oh, there he is very kind of, there's a whole of stuff. going on here he's just casually putting a suit on but that's the whole point of the picture um and as far as tribe goes there's there's no i'm sorry there's no one better
Starting point is 01:38:42 tribes i saw tribe in dala the college park in maryland that's that was to be in the to watch them live that was effing awesome she's so damn smooth tribe is the shit man yeah uh there wouldn't be people like onion stuff without truck no no no no no no gos there he is question for both Should the suit be indestructible or destructible? I hope for destructible because it looks dynamic. And the idea is that S will never be destroyed it as he is a symbol of hope is soup. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I think that it's more so about him and his body than anything else, too.
Starting point is 01:39:18 So if the suit can get wrecked by certain things, I don't mind. I don't mind that. What do you guys think? Yeah. As long as the S survives, I think that's awesome. Yeah. So I like that point. What do we think if it should be destructible?
Starting point is 01:39:29 If the suit is able to be, you know, if it's in, indestructible or destructible? I really, I don't think it changes my opinion either way. If it's destructible or indestructible, but that's like something that people care about? Yeah, that's, that's okay. Yeah, so, Matt Sinister McHale, watch Bloodsport yesterday.
Starting point is 01:39:54 If you dislike, big thing, I'll kick you in the face. What is the weirdest movie you've ever seen? Mine is a racerhead. The weirdest, I mean, that's a hard one. I have to really think. weirdest? I mean, I know exactly. Go ahead, because I can't remember. I saw this movie
Starting point is 01:40:08 called Mutant Vampire Zombies in the Hood. You went. And it was on Netflix. It wasn't like some like, and obviously it was shot like a baked potato. Yeah. But it was when you watch it, I was like, how did this make
Starting point is 01:40:24 it on Netflix? And it was by far the weirdest movie I've ever seen in my life. I mean, the first one I think of it, And I'm sure there's weirder movies, but it was the, what's that one, the lobster, which everyone loves. Oh, yeah. A lobster movie, not a big fan of that movie.
Starting point is 01:40:39 But what, Roke, you got one? Weirdest movie ever saw? Gummer, I guess. Gummer, that weird ass little. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right. Cam, Drake is Goldberg.
Starting point is 01:40:53 Kendrick is Brett Hart. That's a good one. One is an opportunity is just trying to seize the moment while the other is really about the craft. It's a good. That's a good wrestling reference. like that. So Carlton Rudder is one. Yeah, go ahead, Chris, go ahead. I was going to say, I think Drake is more like Mr. Fantastic and Kendrick is like stone cold, where it's like more like raw grit and the other ones more like money, flash. Oh, you mean Mr. Perfect? You mean Mr.
Starting point is 01:41:24 perfect? Mr. Perfect. That's what I mean. Yeah. What did I say? Mr. Fantastic. It was, I was like, I thought you were going to Fantastic Four and I was like, but yeah, Mr. Yeah, I'm getting Mr. Perfect. Carlton Rutter. Carlton Rutter was, Carlton, we missed your question from last week, so I apologize for that. London calling, sorry, guys, no questions.
Starting point is 01:41:43 And I helping my mom and dad repair for my aunt's funeral tomorrow. I'm sorry to hear that, but still wanted to send you both support. Well, thank you for doing that, especially what you're going through right now. And yeah, so you just, do me a favor. And just you can send an email to the Christian Harlovch channel
Starting point is 01:41:59 at gmail.com with the one that you had, and I'll make sure that I read it on the air next week. And same thing to shoot. I think Mike, Mike Joyce was the other one that I missed last week. So send that over. Francisco Lopez, Superman's suit looks a little like the new 52 and look okay,
Starting point is 01:42:16 but I have to see it in motion. I totally agree. KDOT is winning this battle. And yes, this is good for hip-hop. It doesn't seem like anybody has Drake winning this thing. That's what I'm saying. It's dark for Drake right now.
Starting point is 01:42:27 Yeah, it doesn't look like anything. Maybe, like, if it was in the beginning, and it was starting like maybe there were maybe there were like guys it did see more over the course on all that more but like when he those feel like oh that was a good one here and then yeah then now i don't see it see that at all francisco lopez did you see the series finale for bad batch i really like the way that they ended it i love the night oh i don't want to know about the happy anything damn it well um i did not see the end spoilers in people i know um i didn't see the ending so i guess they don't all die that sucks um and i did uh right now
Starting point is 01:43:01 now I'm at like I said I'm watching Shogun I finished I'm caught up with X-Men 97 and I'm about four episodes into fallout so I want to finish all those and I'll probably get the bad batch but now that I know what happens Francisco come on man Daniel Breen given there had been so much toxicity within the fandom
Starting point is 01:43:17 fucking birds get out of here there's a bird in here you get lost bird come on bird beat it birds here sound I don't know given there can be so much toxicity toxicity within the fandom what is your guys reasons for loving Star Wars. Have you a great, I hope you have a great weekend. So it's not, you know, look,
Starting point is 01:43:36 for me, I have the hope of what all the lure, and when you look at some of these great books and the other things that they have and all the stories and the potential and how much things have kind of come out of it, it's the potential that's out there of what they ultimately can do and how much history and all the things that were taken that George Lucas, the inspirations that he had, from the samurai to the, I mean, to the wars of the past and all that. And making, making it less pop-cultory, if you will, or just like, you know, cotton candy and giving it more meat. That's what I'm hoping for. So, like, when Star Wars is great, it's great, you know, and it's just, so that's, that's, that's why I love it.
Starting point is 01:44:19 I'm going to be honest. Oh, sorry. Good. Good. Please. That's why I was raising my hand. No, you're going to be. A lot of the reason, I'm going to be honest, it sounds like it's going to suck.
Starting point is 01:44:30 I'm sucking up, but I'm. I was a lot of the reason why I became more of a Star Wars fan is because of this show. When the Force Unleash was coming out, the energy that you guys created, it made me, because I was Star Wars, but that made me start going on looking at comics. And it was something like the lead up to the first movie back to the sequels was like one of the, I don't know, it's such, it's like that moment. Everybody loved it. Like everybody was on the same side.
Starting point is 01:45:05 And it was just so fun with the theories and the, before it got super toxic, this show had a lot to do with why. I watch Smodown, Star Wars Special with Sam Whitmer. Yeah. And Freddie. Yeah, I watch stuff like, yeah, and Freddie. That stuff, it's a community. At Roka?
Starting point is 01:45:26 Yeah. Yeah. To me, it's always about what it represents, right? is this idea of the possibility of what we can be of fighting the evil, right? And fighting, coming together to fight the darkness and fight for the light. And so for me, that's what I always love about Star Wars. It represents this possibility. And it's always people from like these lower areas and lower situations coming together
Starting point is 01:45:50 to fight and hopefully be able to overcome this evil that wants to control and wants to force you to do certain things and wants to constantly watch over everything you're doing. I always respect and love that about Star Wars. All right. Next one. Christian J. Madrano. Been watching screw at every turn of this beef, even with the CB and Cuavo beef.
Starting point is 01:46:11 There you go. Quavo. Quivo, thank you. Thank you. Needs a lot. I only give Kendrick the slight edge only because Drake baited Kendrick with fake information and overall Drake's handled everyone else.
Starting point is 01:46:28 So go ahead, Roke. Slight edge. Listen. he played him. Therefore he wins not by a slight edge, but by a big edge because he played him and Drake was fooling us to fall into the trap, for God's sake.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Yeah. All right. So look at this. Screw fish on. I give you a 4.5 out of five schmows. That's a good. What dropped the point five? The low receipts.
Starting point is 01:47:00 So there's a lot of occupations. accusations were not a lot of proof. And if I'm just like a rap value just for entertainment, I could enjoy it. But my analytical brand basically goes, man, if there was one person that proved some of this stuff on one or the other side,
Starting point is 01:47:16 I'll probably give it a full five. All right, Sam Champion. Always love the commentary, guys. Thank you. Personally, I think it's dope that you guys are talking about the beef. Shows how far it has reached. Plus, we get to hear your point of view as well. Thank you, Sam.
Starting point is 01:47:28 Appreciate that very much. So I will say that I also give props, as I asked for the beef to end. It ended, and we have our longtime fan back. So there we go. Also, KDOT is killing Drake right now. Drake's lost disc track is sounding more like a wave the white flag than a disc. If KDOT released another bangor, it's over. Yeah, I think, but I think that, I think, screwface said it before, too.
Starting point is 01:47:52 I think that right now, Kendrick is just like, he's got this, he's got him by the head like this. And he's just like, you're going to say anything else? Okay, you're not. But if you say anything else, I'm going to drop the hammer on you. That's what his team's like right now. Yeah. Okay. So King Sport Cal, don't care about this Drake-Kendrick stuff, but I'm glad you guys covered it.
Starting point is 01:48:13 You don't need permission to talk about it. It's your show. That's why I like it. Thanks, man. And that comes to Calvin. Calvin, who can be super critical. Yes. I love Calvin.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Calvin can be super critical and he's out there, but he's always in there, given his points of view. So I got respect for you on that one, too. Thanks, man. Matt B. Out of all the jokes made, it was one about the pervy owner that got Tom in his feelings.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Yeah, I mean, that was the one that he was just like, don't do that again. But he was, but what's his face was laughing? Yeah, Jeff, oh, yeah, but I mean, he's also like in his 80s. Yeah, I probably didn't know the joke. Yeah. Mickey Glazer's jokes about Jeff Ross were also hilarious. He's like, what did she say?
Starting point is 01:48:53 She said something along the lines, but that's all these different things, and that's what makes you even more. more disgusting looking. I can't remember whatever it was. Congratulations on the weight loss. It must be nice to know that it wasn't the weight that was making women to be turned off by you. Or thinking you were so disgusting.
Starting point is 01:49:07 You're so disgusting, right. Joe Hendo TV, off topic. But I'm 27, and I'm going back to college for pursue a degree in journalism, hopefully become a movie critic. Your early reviews definitely influenced how I view movies. So do you have any advice? Well, first of all, that's awesome. My only advice
Starting point is 01:49:25 is that just be true to your opinion on it because everything we just said here today, right? It's very easily to get influenced of going, oh, if I say this, are these people going to come after me or if they're not going to think I see this? Say how you feel about what you watch. Don't worry about if someone's going to tell you that you're a hater or that you're a shill or this. Say what is honestly what is coming from when you see stuff. And it's like put your channel or whatever you're going to do, your channel, your blog, whatever it is. and just put your love into it. And that's, and I mean, look, shit, man, look at, look at screw face.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Screwface went from, when did you start your channel? Oh, like seven years ago. Yeah. And we like, like 1.2 million or some, what, how many? Yeah, you're like. Just in the last couple months, my page really, really took off. I'm sure. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:50:19 And that's hard work and that's passion. When you watch his videos, it's passion. You know, same. You're like, I, John Roka and I, we have known each other since college. And I remember sitting down with sushi with John going, what are you doing? Do this. You should be talking about movies. Should be talking about this stuff.
Starting point is 01:50:35 And the same thing when you collide or is, start your own thing. Because if you know John, you don't give it. He tells his opinion. He tells it as it is. He never changes his opinion. So, I mean, John, would you agree or any other thing that you would give advice on there? Get thick skin if you're going to be a movie critic. It is, it is the endangered animal right now.
Starting point is 01:50:53 It has always being attacked by fans, by the studio, by influencers, by other critics. So if you're going to do it, study it, be the best you can. I would say learn how to make a movie as well, because that'll give your criticism even more foundation and information. And that will help get across to the people and then get thick skin because you're going to get criticized no matter what you feel about it. So just make sure you work on that part of it as well. Yep. Mad Sinister Macau Favorite stand-up special
Starting point is 01:51:24 Carlin and Carnegie easily. That was what made me me get into stand-up comedy. Yeah. Well, was Chris Rocks one, the one that blew him up? Bring the pain, wasn't it? Well, I think it was bring the pain. Yeah, that's the one. I mean, it used to be Eddie's delirious,
Starting point is 01:51:41 but just bring the pain, man. Eddie Murphy would never go away with that special today, by the way. No, no worry. Just the Mr. T stuff alone. Oh my God. South Park or family guy. Tough. But I'd say South Park, but I could go either way.
Starting point is 01:51:59 Do you have a favorite stand-up special? Screw. Dave Chappelle killing me softly. Or Jamie Fox, I might need security. And what's the second question? Star Wars or Family Guy? I mean, not Star Wars. South Park or Fat guy.
Starting point is 01:52:17 I would have to go to South Park only because in their prime, in their peak, I think family guys kind of lost a bit of steam where South Park is kind of picking up another wave of like the woke thing and that stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's picking up another wave.
Starting point is 01:52:34 Kay Dog Westmore, Kendrick and Drake both lost. Kendrick took a personal blow. Drake took a career blow. Daughter, Pito stuff isn't really real, but the colonizer stuff will be a lasting scar. Same with wife-beater allegations. I mean, look, I understand that point.
Starting point is 01:52:49 point. I understand that in one aspect, the point of the recognition of this and people talking about it and I'm sure like you said, the views and everything else has gone up. But where they're going, I mean, they really went to like cutting, really, you know, taking shots and literally saying you're dead, you're dead, you're dead. You're dead. It's over. So it is, I understand that point. I think it's a good point. Yeah. I saw some female critics call this beef out for how they're using women in their wraps and the women who are involved like the fiancee the wives the ladies the the accusations of the daughters like that kind of stuff that they're using women as props in the battle so i can understand that complaint but i but you know i'm not going to weigh in on that but i can understand why people might have an issue with it so yeah um all right let's see so kevin you know this is a great show thanks for all the thoughts thanks kevin also mr roca thanks for the heads up
Starting point is 01:53:47 on the Brady roast had me cracking crack in the crack in this morning. It was so fun. It was so good. Yeah. The man Ed Haskell. The new story trailer for the boys drops Friday night. It's fire. Talk about embracing the dark side. Vengeville gods and F. Tom Brady. hilarious. So I
Starting point is 01:54:02 missed the reaction to that. The boys. When I missed a reaction to something like that, I'm going to watch the boys. I'm not watching the trailer. I don't need to watch a trailer because I want it because I really want to see that. I heard it's a great. Did you do the reaction for that one, No, because it was at night, and by the time I was sitting in front of the computer, the
Starting point is 01:54:20 Ackleight trailer dropped. So I was going to, well, fuck it, I'll do the Akelyne. Do that one. Did you, do you, have you seen, are you a boys fan, screwface? Yeah, I watched the first season. I finished the first season. I'm going, I'm about to start watching the second one. I'm so late with certain stuff.
Starting point is 01:54:38 I still haven't even fully watched. I haven't watched Game of Thrones. So, yeah, I somehow avoided the, well, I haven't avoided the spoilers. I still know about, Reded letting and all that. So I have, but Gen V, actually, I've been looking at that because my, somebody I know, Derek Lou has to play Shining Vale, what I think is a character name. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:02 Yeah, so I actually know him personally, so I have been just kind of support him. Okay. See, remember. So let me see in Gen V. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's one of the main characters in that. He's really good in that show.
Starting point is 01:55:14 Yeah. Yeah. I've gone to him. He used to be around. Oh, wow. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, he's really good. Okay, let's see. So here's the next one. This is Aaron Cole. Here's some cash to feed your money grab. Appreciate all the coverage and really enjoy the big thing crew. Thank you. Very nice. Al Rensha. Who do you think John Carl is playing in the MCU? That's right. They said he's got the MCU. He said it isn't a role that has been rumored fancasted. The obvious choices for me is Dr. Doom. Well, that has been rumored. Yeah. So I don't know if he says, it's not. He says it has been rumored. I don't know. I don't know. Who do you guys? Roka, who do you think? There's a million and I don't, I can't. I couldn't possibly. I don't know yet.
Starting point is 01:55:58 Do you have any guesses for a face on that one? John Carlisbizito, who's playing in the MCU? I really have not. MCU is kind of like Star Wars with me where right now it's feeling like it's going to swing back up. Yeah. I'm just kind of tepid. So I've been staying away from trailers. I've been staying away from a week so who's going to play what because I feel like that played into some of my over expectations of things from the last season so I kind of just wanted because I feel with the first infinity saga yeah we didn't know as much you know I feel like now we know so much going into we have so much speculation that it ruins the experience in time yep uh Johnny
Starting point is 01:56:40 Patrice the backlash crowd was crazy do you think when do you think MJF will make the jump to How successful do you think he'll be? I think he'll be very successful. I think that they'll use his microphone skills in the way that they should. And I think he will be there as soon as his contract runs out. Roker, do you think? Yeah, I think it all depend. I think AEW is very much on the dissent.
Starting point is 01:57:03 So it's going to be sooner rather than later. But it all depend on what plan they have for him. So there's a lot of great people already at the top. So is there room for MJF right now? with all the storylines and all the stuff going on with everybody else. So it all depends on the plan because MJF is the kind of guy that wants to know what the plan is ahead of time before he commits one way or another. So, but I do think you will end up there eventually. Okay, so let's go.
Starting point is 01:57:30 The next one here is I love Aisha. She's the best. Hello, gentlemen, the show today is one of my favorites this year. Cue up the green work and congrats on your move, Christian. Aisha, you have been one of the best supporters on this show. And I thank you for your kind words, as always. I love Aisha. It's so nice.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Me too. John Ashford. Good day, gentlemen, regarding X-Men. Do you think they're setting up Avengers versus X-Men with Magneto Recking Shop with the EMP? Maybe. Maybe. I don't want to speculate too much into it, but maybe. What do you think, John? I think that's more credible in the animated universe than it is in the live action. I think so many people are saying, are we going to get Avengers X-Men? Slow down. Let them all get introduced first.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Let them go on Adventures and then maybe down the road. But for the X-Men 97, I think it's very clearly being set up that for second season. Yeah. I think that that's what he means, especially when you see the kind of spoiler at the end of the last one. Bradley Pooper. What's up, Bradley Pooper?
Starting point is 01:58:29 Well, the Fall Guy bounced back. it's a great movie um i saw this debate going on with coy and some other people too i really like the fall guy i thought it was a good start to the summer season i thought they were going they were going to have some at least a little bit of you know legs with it and then coy and somebody else were like well it'll bounce back in the same way that bullet train did i think bullet train came out at the end of august i think or maybe even september yeah it wasn't in the thick of in the start of the summer movie season um so the summer movie season you got apes you got Furiosa,
Starting point is 01:59:03 you've got all these other movies coming out in June. I think they'll be lucky if they break even. No, it's toast. I just want to go look at an IMAX screening this afternoon. There's two people in the theater. Yeah, it's toast. Yeah, it's, it's toast. It's in, it shouldn't be.
Starting point is 01:59:19 It's a really good, it's a really, I know, everyone likes it. And everybody offering opinions on why it failed is just opinions, guys. There's no actual factual, credible evidence. Plenty of films. every year that are good, underperform, or don't do well.
Starting point is 01:59:36 And so it doesn't mean it's the end of theaters. It's the end of movies. Calm down. You know what? It also proves. And I want people to stop now when they're like, had this movie had the opportunity to promote like in the strike and all those movies in the strike,
Starting point is 01:59:49 they would have been able to promote. They would have done so much better. This movie, this one, had some of the best marketing I've ever seen the movie. 100%. It did nothing. Marketing does not mean anything if people don't want to see the movie. It's an old IP. I saw someone say, like, this is like making a feature film about the scarecrow and Mrs. King.
Starting point is 02:00:05 And I was like, yes, that's 100% a great connection. Yeah, but that's, and that's a longer conversation. We've got a lot of questions. Nathan Stowe. Hey, John, who's going to win the Premier League tonight? Premier League, Arsenio, or it's Arsenal or Man City? Oh, hold on. Arsenio.
Starting point is 02:00:23 Let's see. Which one is it? that's what I heard is that music still going on it's still going on no it's going to be
Starting point is 02:00:39 man city because Arsenal will eventually crack like they did last what are that that's
Starting point is 02:00:47 oh my god what did you see what's the music coming from that was great welcome to the smoke.
Starting point is 02:01:02 All right. Jorge Anista, a minor line still has dead. What is that? I don't know. Kendrick said a following troll, you're going to be tired, trying to hit a court and it's probably a minor.
Starting point is 02:01:17 Right, right, right, right, right. He follows it up with Drake has a Shell corporation called Silent Policy. Should Kendrick bring that up? Daniel Bugislaw on X says it might be a hush, hush, NDA type. I think that Screwface nailed it. though. I think that you're not going to hear anything.
Starting point is 02:01:33 You're not going to hear anything from Drake until there's, or Kendrick until there's another shot from Drake. And I think Drake's probably going to go quiet for a little bit. Yeah. Okay, so there he is. My former beef, who's this guy? This is Christopher Korea. Here's some of them.
Starting point is 02:01:50 I might be a hater for supporting. Also, Roka is the mad meme. Any meme mad is Roka. hilarious. I don't even know who this guy is. No, he's, I give him props because he was the one up top that was saying that we shouldn't cover it, but we agreed to disagree and move on.
Starting point is 02:02:08 And then he put a, and that's, I mean, that's a very generous super chest. Thank you for doing that. Francisco Lopez, I'm sorry. I thought you saw a bad batch.
Starting point is 02:02:16 You're all right, man. Jim one, did you see Forbes reported the Marvel's lost $237 million, which doesn't surprise me, though. They spent way too much money on that movie, and they,
Starting point is 02:02:25 they were in the mindset of like every Marvel movie does well, wrong. Yeah. I was very confused on that. Yeah. Who didn't see like that wasn't going to perform well, like before? I'm not very knowledgeable about everything like you guys are with movies. But I feel like if I would have been in that meeting, I would be like, hey, I don't know if that's going to do that well.
Starting point is 02:02:48 I couldn't agree more. I didn't understand the reason for it. Justin Changwan, a pollster for film criticism. Justin Chang Wan, a Pulitzer. Oh, yeah. Oh, okay. There you go. and then Ayush Kumar
Starting point is 02:03:01 Legacy of the Beef is the next generation's Vap values Thank you and then I think there's two more Okay Haskell again, Riddick Furia starts filming in August What's that?
Starting point is 02:03:15 That's the new Riddick film with Vin Diesel, the fourth installment They're doing another one? Yeah, they're calling it Furia. Not to be confused of Furiosa, you know. I thought that's what he's talking about but he made a table. That's what they want.
Starting point is 02:03:30 They want to trick you to go in the theater to see it. Mike Choice, what does big balls think of Drake and Kendra? Oh, no. Oh, man, you want to hit my thoughts on Drake? No. Holy shit, man. Don't do this, big balls. Don't you, don't you tell me what to do, you angry ass?
Starting point is 02:03:45 You just got called an angry meme. You got called an angry meme, and I'm going to tell you what? I'm the dream. You ain't even known what I've seen. I've been running around with nuts and stuff. I've been running around, dodging dicks and eating muff. I'm the better. You're better than the rest.
Starting point is 02:04:01 Oh, man, I'm a little one, and I beat my chest. I'm so cool, you're going to drool. You back, put a little fool. I'm big balls and I'm not on your face. And if you don't like it, I call you disgrace. Fuck a Kendrick. Fucker, a Drake, too. I'm going to go off and I'll hit you with some goo.
Starting point is 02:04:23 Give him a beat. You kill both of them. Someone put that there. There is one more, actually. A lot of people are cutting back to inflation. Yeah. No. Movies are struggling.
Starting point is 02:04:37 People are waiting for streaming. That's Jim 1. No. No. I think cutting back for streaming, I think he's right. I agree. People fell all over themselves to go see Spider-Man No Way home. During COVID.
Starting point is 02:04:50 People licked each other's faces in theaters during the fucking building. There's so many people in theaters. I'm just saying if people, want to go see a movie they'll go it's not about streaming or money or nothing they'll go no no no but wait a minute wait a minute but i i don't disagree with that but i also think it's relevant to say like look okay i know like look at if i'm paying because back five four years ago five years ago you didn't have an option of 75 different streaming options right if you're paying for all those things and there's a brand new movie that drops on netflix that you could watch with
Starting point is 02:05:21 your family and you go this movie just drop with everybody make some popcorn in the fan or we can go see fall guy in the theater and spend this amount of money. Well, it looks good, but I don't want to want to spend that. Let's just watch Netflix because we have Netflix. We have Paramount Plus. We have all this stuff. But then Apes comes out next week. Let's see that. Back in the day, dude, people would go and see movies every week because there wasn't the
Starting point is 02:05:43 tapes of options that you had for streaming. Streaming has added a lot of different options. Yeah, that'll be. No. All right. I'll buy it. Fair enough. I feel like, because John, you do this enough with the,
Starting point is 02:05:56 stars the starred things that all the super chats are listed in the stars right yeah yeah yeah I didn't miss anybody because the last time I missed somebody so let me see here I want to make sure I last thing yeah all guys it Jim one is the last one that's the last one okay all right well this was a long supersized episode and I think I know I think both of my guests for being here today John I put your link for your channel in the description can you go ahead and tell everybody what you're doing over there yeah yeah we got the hot mic the geek buddies the geek buddies is going to be doing a special episode today talking about that Superman suit where's my super suit we're going to talk about it so come and join us we're going to put that up a little bit later on we'll do a fall guy
Starting point is 02:06:35 review tomorrow as well got the hot mic got the jettai way got all stuff going on there and i'll have of course my reactions and reviews on my channel as well and maybe i'll get into the drake kendrick lamar beef just to piss some of you off man you'll see uh youtube dot com slash john roca says go and subscribe there the outlaw nation let's have some fun thanks so much for having me on and screw great to meet you, brother. Thank you. So much fun. I've been watching you for a long time too, man. Thank you, brother. Thank you. Screwface. Tell us where
Starting point is 02:07:04 you, tell the peeps where they can find you. Tell us about your channel. My channel is screwface, Jean. Do music reactions. I also do music. I'm a rapper who reacts to rap. You can find me on Twitter.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Everything's at Screwfeijon. You can follow me on Spotify, Screwfeijon. Yeah, expect to be seeing some, I think I'm actually doing that BBL Drizzi challenge that Metrowoman made later on today if she'd be dropping. So, yeah, that's about it. Awesome. Well, thank you, dude, so much for joining us here today.
Starting point is 02:07:41 It was a pleasure to finally talk to you and let's do it again. Oh, definitely. Thank you for having, man. Like, honestly, I don't care how big I get. This is one of the, like, my go-to channel. This has been, and I've been like an interview with, No Jumper Adam's 22, which is a huge platform in hip hop. But honestly, I was a bit more nervous here than I was even there.
Starting point is 02:08:03 So that's just so. You were great. So yeah, let's do it again. I appreciate it. Screw face, John, everybody. Okay. So we had a great show here today. Thank you to everybody.
Starting point is 02:08:14 I know we got heated in the beginning. But that's my point with this channel is that we all came together. We all came together. Hell, man. Even our buddy who was who was kind of critical at us atop, threw in a super chat at the end to be supportive and said, here you go. Doesn't mean he changed his stance on what he thought. It means that we handled it like gentlemen and we had a discussion and we had a whole discussion here today about all these different topics.
Starting point is 02:08:38 So thank you for joining us here today and being a part of it. Really appreciate it. Thank you to John Roker. Thank you to Sri Fajon for joining us here today. And thank you to you guys. As I said, if you want to support this show and you're able to, I cannot emphasize enough how important it is for you guys to get one of those sponsors. there's something that you want to like.
Starting point is 02:08:56 There's something you want to get and something that you like because I always try to get stuff that I feel that the audience is going to respond to. So, yeah, shows free. And we want to keep the people on it. So there you go. Thanks for joining us here today. Appreciate it. We'll see you on the flip side.
Starting point is 02:09:12 Bye.

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