The Kristian Harloff Show - NO WAY! Matthew Vaughn wants Henry Cavill as Superman again in Red Son adaptation?

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

BIG THING COMIC BOOK! https://bit.ly/493Er9i On today's episode of the show, we discussed the new Supergirl casting. House of the Dragon star Milly Alcock has been cast as the Girl of Steele. Is this a good call, bad call? Speaking of Kryptonians, Matthew Vaughn, who is directing the Film Argyle is on a press tour and he talked about doing a Superman movie. His take and pitch was interesting. He said he would like to do a Henry Cavill Superman lead Elseworlds film based off of the Mark Millar comic Red Son. Will this ever happen? Would Henry Cavill ever return to the DC universe? We discussed the latest Daredevil photos. It seems like they are connecting way more to the Netflix series than ever.what will the next few DC movies be? Will it be Brave And The Bold with Batman and Robin? Will it be Supergirl? Will it be something different? This and more on today's episode of The Big Thing Capes and Cowls with Kristian Harloff and Winston A. Marshall. Join us, and as always leave a comment! #DC #DCU #Superman #Supergirl #ManOfSteel #GirlOfSteel #Krypton #Movies #Batman, #BatmanAndRobin #Robin #Film, #Marvel #MCU #Daredevil OUR SPONSORS: AG1: http://www.drinkAG1.com/BigThing MAGIC SPOON Go to http://www.magicspoon.com/BIGTHING to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code BIGTHING at checkout to save five dollars off your order! PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow

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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to Capes and Cowls. It is Friday on The Big Thing. Thanks for joining us here today. Yeah, I know we covered Millie Alcock as Supergirl the other day on The Big Thing show, but I didn't get a chance to talk about it with Winston yet. Coy's out of town. Cois at the, I think it's the Orlando Comic-Con.

So he's interviewing a whole bunch of peeps. We'll have some good news coming out from him, I'm sure, once he gets back. But I wanted to talk to Winston about this because, oh, man, you guys gave me some crap when I told you. I don't know how crazy I am with this, the dog running around. You've read the comic, dummy. So I'll see if Winston, how he's feeling about it. What I will say is all three of us are wrong as far as who got cast. We all thought it was going to be Donnelly.

We were wrong. There's Millie Alcock, and that's it. There's other news. There's more shots from the Daredevil show. Not only are we seeing Foggy and Karen with Matt now, and that's a nice little reunion. We also got a shot of Kingpin with Matt Murdoch. And that image alone looks very Netflixy to me, and I'm excited about it.

Other thing I'm excited about, but I probably shouldn't get excited about, is that Matthew Vaughn has a pitch for Henry Cavill coming back to Superman. He's obviously working with him on the latest Argyle, and he's got a pitch that he wants to get it to Warner Bros. He wants to do it. He wants to do the Superman movie, but can it happen? I'm doubtful, but we'll speculate and cross our fingers. this suicide squad video game people losing their minds over it i want to hear what

winston thinks about it because i i don't know i someone's like oh why are you saying things against the audience who don't like it's like when you talk about star wars my i didn't say nothing i don't even know what the hell's going on mike was mike had a fandom opinion i was like i don't know what the hell's going on apparently brave and the bold is going to be the next one after supergirl i guess that's speculation i don't know how true that is but it's James Gunn basically says there's two more movies in production. So we'll talk about that. And then if we find other things to talk about, then we will.

But that's what I got so far. If you're brand new to the channel. You've never been here. Hit that button. Subscribe to it. We are approaching 123,000. Is that true or is it 122? I don't know anymore.

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It's capes and cows. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, capes and cows. Me, Christian Harloff, Winston A. Marshall. Capes and cows. Coy is doing the thing, man.

He's doing the thing. He's got a lot of people that he's talking to. Toy John Drew did the thing. He did. That dance. It was amazing. It was a little shimmy. Yeah, hey.

And then the poor woman, which is an amazing singer. and then the Critics Choice Awards and actresses who think that they can sing. Is that why they did that joke? Maybe. It still doesn't make sense because she's actually a phenomenal singer. This is the stupidest thing ever. I was there and I was just like, I couldn't understand.

I said, who wrote that? Terrible. I understood the joke if they had played it better. I feel like the problem is the presenters weren't in on it. They just were reading the prompter as they came. They were eating bagged pizza at their table. Like, they're just like, I don't know. I'm supposed to do? Read this. Oh, okay.

Because, like, Ryan Gosling isn't a bad singer, but I think if the joke was, you're taking Jack Black, one of the most infamous, like, actors that can sing, like, toured worldwide with tenacious D. You take Ariana DeBose, who has won multiple awards for her ability to be in musicals. So if that's the idea, it's like, oh, a bad singer, a bad singer, it's like, and an actual bad singer, then that would have made sense, but I feel like they didn't get the joke and so they delivered it terribly. Or just say, like, this person, this person, this person, they're all real singers. Ryan Gosseling. You could do that too. And Ryan Gossling, who was been in a band, but still would have

been like, and you would have gotten it. But anyway, anyway, it doesn't matter. That's a long time ago. Long time ago. So we have other things that we are going to talk about. Before we do, I'm so excited, man. I'm so excited. Because I know you've seen these digitally. I've only seen the first two. I haven't even seen the third yet. Oh, man. So this, see the, the new one coming out is like, is like all your origin story. So that's the fourth one that's coming out. There's some, there's some great stuff in here and you can get these by this is the capes and cows comic book um they're they're pretty great so if you you check this out this is winston's got the the first one in where you can get these by the way you can get them if you will i put a link it's the first thing you'll see in the

description if you want to get the hard copy like these but if you want to get them digitally you'll get them all exclusively on patreon but these i got these but you got to pick this one up Hey, Winston. Oh, what's up? Oh, yeah, look at me. Look at me. Crazy balls, big balls. Look at me.

I got my own cover. Look at me. Look at me. Oh, yeah. Not big, oh, my God. I got my nuts hanging. Big balls is in the goddamn God. You got more.

Me and Fousy Flows and you and Koi and everybody. Oh, my goodness. We're all there. Yep. That's me. Oh, man. I'm the best. Not your jacket.

Not your jacket saying these nuts. Oh, yeah. Come on, man. It's a patent now. Patent. I patent my balls. Jesus. I patten him.

I packed it with my hand and then I patent them. How? I'm the best. Dude, this is crazy. I got it. I mean, between you and Wicked Arr, man, I got to like, thank you. This is absolutely fucking crazy. This is a childhood dream.

Yeah, it's cool. It's really. Oh, so that's what I was going to tell you. So what I want to do is, and I don't know if we've able to do it today. If we have enough time, then maybe I'll just. but I want to record everybody's dialogue. Absolutely. And then I'm gonna put the screen up in for capes.

I want to do like a two hour capes and Cal's episode where we just do everything. That's, that is, that would be legit as full. Yeah, and so Wicked Art is actually working on issue four because he's so, he works so hard on these. He works so hard and when we did on the Patreon, we said, you know, give some feedback. And he said a few people did, but I was like,

well, just wait until I get the hard copy because then I'll tell the majority of the audience, also that we have them. And if you get them, then please give your feedback. Because, I mean, these are they're so detailed and they have everybody in here that you know, there's, I mean, Steph's in here, Mike's in here, Roxie's in here.

Did you just, you saw, yeah, dude. Seriously, I can't, I can't put into words what this means for like a childhood me, like honestly. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, so you can get them, if you want to, you want to go,

I put the link in the description, get the hard copies for sure. And I think that we're also doing something on Patreon that we'll get, that we'll, if you want hard copies also that we can do, we'll do, we'll sign the hard copies also. So, especially once we get,

we're gonna put the music with the capes and Cal's music to it. It'll be great. That's, man. I need to, you need to send me that audio file so I can make that my damn ringtone. Oh, that's easy. You can pull that off the internet. I mean, I could rip it off of an episode,

but like, there's a full file on the internet. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Anyways, I don't know. I know. It was more, It was Mark Riley's theme song for the Shmowdown that we only used it once. Really?

We used it once. It was written for him for the Shmodown. I thought you had a more like Superman like version of something for him. If you listen, you know what I'll do is real quick. I'm going to play the song of kind of a little bit more. Okay. This is the actual song, full song. It's like I hear this Superman.

I'm going to use this for all of Cape's. counts because it's only been used it's only been used it used once for riley but it's been us gonna do the opening song when they're when the three of us are fighting the thing yeah yeah you know i was a huge fan of the um the theme for the inner geekdom show and this sort goes into air that's crazy it's cool right yeah yeah it's really dumb epic trailer did this one line i i loved it when he made it and i was always bum that we didn't use it more because Riley used it one time and he lost you know to use it.

I know how that goes, bro. Like that even for the Schmodel, but just the superstition of like, because that happened with, um, it's so stupid. I bought like some Cowboys socks. I was like, cool. I'm decked out and everything. And then they got blown out in a game. This was like last year.

And I said, man, they just sit in my drawer and I will never wear them again. But I won't throw them out because I paid a lot of money for him. I get it. But it goes on for a bit. That's fire. Epic trailer. is the channel.

If you guys want to hear it, just type in Mark Riley, theme song, Shmode. But he's got a lot of different things that he does. He's very talented. I wish his channel would blow up more. He's got like 29,000 subscribers right now,

which is great, but he deserves like 2 million. He's very talented, this guy. All right, anyway, so let's get to some of these stories because we have a few, a few kind of big ones. And let's start with this one.

Superman legacy director, James Gunn shares fan art depicting Millie Alcock as Supergirl. As he's done for previous casting announcement, James Gunn has taken a social media to share fan art depicting House of the Dragon star, Millie Alcock, as the DCU's new Supergirl. Mark Cassidy at Comic Book Movie writes. Superman Legacy director and DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn, as previously shared fan art from Davy Alva's

after pretty much every DCU casting announcement, and now he's taken a social media to spotlight some of Alva's latest work this time, Millie Alcock as Supergirl. The House of the Dragon Star casting was official this week after she emerged at top as top contender alongside Meg Donnelly. Gunn and Saffron flew multiple actors to the Superman set in Atlanta for screen tests last Monday with Alcock and Donnelly and others possibly, donning the Supergirl

suit, most likely the one that Sasha Kaye wore in the flash for their auditions. Though it was said to be a close contest, Alcock ultimately won the part and will suit up as a less earnest and more edgy version of the iconic super heroine as Gunn looks to move away from previous depictions of the

Girl of Steel, particularly the long-running CBSCW series fronted by Melissa Benoist. Alcock is expected to debut in Legacy before she headlines her solo Woman of Tomorrow movie, although Gunn has yet to confirm this. So we were talking about this with Mike and Steph the other day, and I had said that,

I had read the edgy thing, and I had read about that they were going to have crypto, the super dog in it maybe or something. Yeah, and I said, I don't know, you want to have a dog in it and all the comments. Oh, can we for Winston and Corey to be there, because they're going to tell you about the comic itself. And I'm like, fine, but I'm also, the thing is, too, guys,

you got to understand this, is that not just me, how are you going to get, like, casual fans and generals? Like, if you read the comic, you would know. But I didn't read the comic. Sure. And a lot of people I know are not going to read the comics. So let me put it to you this way. Crypto doesn't talk, but if you are able to deal with Cosmo and Rocket,

you can deal with Crypto the Superdoll. You know what I'm saying? Well, no, no, no, that's different. Why? Because of the tone. Sure. The tone of Guardians fits a talking. dog and even though the dog's not really even talking

it's talking through like technology if you're gonna have an edgy and this is why you're explaining it that if it's not talking it's fine but if the dog started talking to her in the middle of crypto crypto never talks but like crypto is literally that it has all the powers of of Kryptonians and so

yeah I saw the animated way yeah so no no no so it's your don't don't think Legion of Super Pets because even that if you remember the pets were talking to each other because they're animals they weren't talking to Superman right you know So it's, it's, she tends to have a better relationship with crypto than Cal does. Okay. So it does make sense for them to, and on top. In the first movie, though? It's fine.

All right. You got to remember on top of that for this first movie, we're apparently getting a large majority of a flush out either justice society or justice league. Right. That's in Superman. I understand that. But I'm saying like, so they're saying what, crypto will be in, uh, woman or tomorrow? Yeah. So, no, they didn't necessarily say that. They, I guess the comic book that this is based off of has crypto in it. So there's no confirmation that crypto is going to be in. There's no confirmation all.

And there's most likely, I'd say the most likely scenario is I see this and yeah, you guys are right. It wasn't a big deal all the way. They handled it right. And it's not goofy in a place. So I don't know. All I'm saying is because like you could take it to Cosmo and Rocket, but like even with Iron Man which had like comic elements to it like funny ha ha, it was comedic,

thank you. was still pretty serious of a movie, like being kidnapped by terrorists and barely surviving and all that. And remember, we had a lovely interaction with a non-talking robotic arm. That was like a whole thing. So I think, honestly, all you're doing

is you're acknowledging more of the universe that actually exists here. You're letting us know that that all exists. And again, just remembering in terms of just comics in general, you can have a serious tone and then have a movie like The Suicide Squad or Peacemaker, since we're talking gun, where you have a giant alien starfish mind controlling people. or a bunch of little like butterfly bugs

that are invading people's mind. Like it's, it will be fine, I promise. And crypto's interesting because that's her emotional anchor. Okay. Well, look, I do like Milliancock for sure. I thought she was fantastic in House of the Dragon. I was pulling from McDonnelly because I also have an idea in my head, which is apparently from what everyone's telling me wrong. Because in my head, I always thought she was kind of a little bit more

wholesome and then they're going with a more edgy version. with a more edgy version. And we had thought maybe they're going to, whoever it was was going to go against what they're normally known for. But if you're going for that edgy, telling you know that Millie Alcock and pull that off in a heartbeat.

So, and I will say even the AI art that I saw of her that we used and then the art that he's sharing, she fits the role. She looks, I mean, and James Gunn is phenomenal at casting. Yeah, I have literally, my split feelings is more,

positive than it is like negative. I would say she wouldn't have necessarily been my choice, but A, it's not my universe. It's not my movie. So it doesn't matter. Didn't see the audition. So I have no idea. But like I want to, A, congratulate the hell out of her. Like that is a huge deal. Like obviously being a house of dragon is big, but like getting a role like this is definitely that type of thing that will like push you to the next level. You get excited for a young actor to be able to do something like that. And she's got a lead in House of the Dragon. She was a major role. Right. But she was in the lead. This is. She was for the segment that she was in, I guess, you know, since it's time skipping. She was a major character.

She was a major character, but like, you know, but then you'd also had Matt Smith. You had other people too. They were major. Sure, sure, sure. But this is, this is, I'm saying, but when it wasn't called, it wasn't called, Renair. It was called House of the Dragon. This is called, this is her movie. No, no, no, I get that, but just like with Renair, you would make the argument that

Reneer, even though it's an ensemble show, is the main character. But it's just because you were time skipping anyway. she didn't even get to sit in it that long. She got, with, like, four episodes, and then they moved on to the... She was on it for a bit, and I still, I definitely would argue that she's just, she's one of the main character.

She's not the main character. Who would you say the main character is? The entire family. And that's what, and that's what I enjoyed about it, is that it was all about, it was all about them. And they didn't cut back and forth

to other different characters. It was all basically contained within that family. She was a major character, but I'm just going, kind of going with your point, though, that this is like a major role for her movie. It is. It is.

It is. Absolutely. And so to that point, I'm super excited. And again, we didn't see her audition, so she probably crushed it. And we know she has the acting chops in general. I think the only thing that's throwing me off, but again, movie magic does it all the time. Tom Cruise is arguably the biggest movie star we've ever seen, or at least in that category. Both her and Meg are so short.

Yeah, what happens? They're like 5'3 and 5'5. 5.5 isn't terribly short, obviously. But I just, every time you see Carr, like, she's not as big as, as Clark. Right. But she is like a little bigger. Right.

Like you know what I'm saying? So like in my mind, I was like, dang, they, okay. But again, movie magic. It doesn't matter. That's not important if anything. How tall was Sasha Kaye? That's a good question. I don't think I even.

So a little bit, a little bit on the taller side. And then when you look at Melissa, I'm just curious. I know they're going away from that, but same thing. I think she's definitely taller. Maybe I'm wrong. Yeah. But, you know, so that that's the only thing. I'm not saying, yeah, she's 5-8.

So it's not even a situation of like trying to be jacked or anything. not talking about that, but just, she's just stature-wise. Sure. But it doesn't matter. Again, movie magic, they'll make it happen, like, all good. And again, super happy for Millie, just because this is a huge deal. And I think she'll knock it out of the part. Well, and I'm curious for what you guys think.

Do you think that this is a good move, bad move? From what I saw on the Wednesday's episode, you all thought it was a really good move. And I don't think it's a bad move. I think it's a good move. I'm just curious in general about the movie and how they're going to basically do it because James Gunn is not directing it. They don't know who's directing it yet. I also said, well, they're going to do it in the James Gun tone. And people have made a very valid point where it's not his movie. He can say certain things. But the script is not being written

by him. So it could be very different. She will be introduced by him, though. Have we, have we seen producer James Gunn before? Like, do we have what, like, I've seen plenty of his movies he's directed. Let's, let's say some, here's some of the ones that he's produced. Okay. All right, so something called the specials. This is in 2000, the main event of the moon. Scooby-Doo Monsters Unleashed. I always forget that he had something to do.

Lolly Love, El Corva, the miracle of Phil, Doggy Heaven, Blue, like you. Fairy tale produces, this is before he started kind of blowing up. And then the Belko experiment, Guardians of Galaxy in Forno. He was a producer on Infinity War. Oh, Brightburn.

Okay. He's a producer on Brightburn. I think that's the biggest one for me, because everything else, like, obviously, you're still involved with all the MCU step, but that's by the deal. It's like part of the deal where it's like, yeah, I want to be a producer on the movie. But it's more to give you the producer credit and more money and blah, blah, blah.

So the big one for me then would be Brightburn. And I know people have mixed feelings, but I really enjoyed Brightburn. And if you're talking about a more serious tone, Cara, knowing that he was able to help produce that with Brightburn and how intense that was, then I feel good about it. I literally just know him as a writer-director. I don't really know him as a producer, so that's why I was curious. I do want to know.

There's another story that we'll get into in just a moment about the movies that are coming next. And I would assume it's Superman in 2025. We can speculate because I have an idea of what I think the next two movies are, because you said something else is in production. But before I do, is that you know that I've been, I told you this, that I probably, as I checked this morning, 16 pounds I lost. yeah I lost 16 pens I was I was pushing dude I was pushing 220 at one point I'm just trying not to cuss on the show

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I'm getting, I'm getting up there in age. So like now my body is screaming at me when I- care of it, right? And so I'm telling you, because you're not supposed to really eat like after eight o'clock, like, you're supposed to, and if you do, it's like all protein. Yeah. It's like, it's like, because I like.

That's, I've heard that. It's roughly somewhere between two to four hours before going to bed, you should stop. stop taking in food. So yeah, yeah. And that's the best way to do it. Like if I wasn't, sometimes I'll do, you know, if I'm doing a yogurt or if I'm doing whatever it might be.

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Let's get to another story. And we're going to stay with the DC stuff. Here it is. Superman legacy director, James Gunn. He says that there are two more DC. projects and they're about to start production. DC Studios co-chair, James Gunn, has informed fans at two more projects, besides Legacy and Creature Commandos are starting to start production very soon.

Before this, I haven't even read the start-up yet. My guess is if they mention it, I'm going to guess it's obviously from the picture, Brave and the Bold and Supergirl, obviously. That's what I say. As one year passes since James Gunn veiled the known DC Studios, Gods and Monsters Chapter 1 Slade, Gunn took the social media to update where things stand with the highly anticipated cinematic soft reboot of the DCEU via Instagram. Gun said, one year ago, Peter Safran and I introduced our DC slate for the first time.

Thanks to all of you for the support you've given us throughout the year. Today, Superman Legacy is about to start production. Episodes of Creature Commandoes are being finished that will release later this year, and at least two more projects are gearing up to go in the couple of next months. Amazing scripts kept coming in, and incredible talent are being attached to new projects planned and unplanned. After a soft reboot of the DCEU, the DCU features an ambitious film slate that includes Superman Legacy, The Authority, The Brave and the Bold, Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, and Swamp Thing on the television side, highly anticipated projects include Creature Commandos, Waller, Lanterns, Paradise Lost, Booster Gold,

Peacemaker, Season 2, and Matt Reeves Arkham Asylum Show. Interesting enough, Gun's social media posts seems to strongly hint that there are some unannounced projects, not on the above list that are pretty far into development. His post also hints that some of these shows already have creative teams in place. There's just been no announcement just yet. With Millie Alcock recently cast a Supergirl, do you think Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow film

is one of the two projects that are headed into production soon? While there is a script written by Anna Nugera, currently being worked on or possibly even completed, there's no director attached as far as we know. A more likely option would be the Waller television show, which has Crystal Henry and Jeremy. Carver attached as showrunners. Also, there's a Swamp Thing movie, which James Mangled attached to direct.

Gun and company likely want to keep attention focused on Superman legacy at the moment, so it might be a while before we learn anything about these two additional mystery projects that are ramping up for production. Okay, so let's see. The first film, yada, yada, yada. So they have this Brave and the Bold thing. So I feel, I do feel in my heart of hearts, if it's movies, because they bring up TV and it's a great point.

If that's what he was talking about, the two TV, there's other TV shows going into production. I mean, I think Matt Reeves could have his thing going into production soon. And so I'm going to go away from TV, even though very well could be TV. I'm just going to say the next two movies that I believe that they should announce, I think Supergirl is definitely going to be one of them for sure. What was our list again? That we have here?

Just specifically movies. The list of movies are Superman Legacy, the Authority. Well, The Authority is, is that a movie? Brave and the Bold, Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, and Swamp Thing. So if I'm going to pick two of those movies that I think are the next two out the gate, at least what it should be, I feel Superman Legacy because it's the one that starts it, and then they're going to introduce Millie Alcock. She's all over the news right now.

Why are they announcing her? Why are they showing her? Why are they putting a big press on this right now if the Brave and the Bold is the Next One? So I think it's going to be Superman Legacy, Supergirl, and then I think it'll be Brave in the Bold. because that way, DC needs to come out throwing bombs. They need haymakers, and they need Superman, Supergirl, Batman, and Robin.

Boom, boom, boom. I think that's how you establish. I think you stay away from the Brave and the Bold right now only because you're about to get both Joker Folly Adieu and Batman Part 2. Yeah, but they're coming on the next two years. I'm talking four years. Which is totally fair.

They're coming on the next two years. also we've established that they are not part of the main continuity we're talking about, but that's why I would say you would focus on say Superman, Supergirl and maybe the authority or Swamp thing, whichever one you feel stronger about only so that for like you said, the casual fan that's not keeping up, they're not directly associating anything. Wait, wait, wait, wait, this Batman looks completely different. It doesn't mean you don't come out swinging with the brave and the bold. Of course you do, but just give it like a little air, just in the sense of like you can also use it as an anchor point.

So if you even go, what, legacy, authority, and then you maybe go super, supergirl woman or tomorrow, then Swamp Thing, and let Brave and the Bull to wrap that out, unless that is just the slate that they're going straight through, then you are a something heavy hitting, something we don't know as much about, something heavy hitting, something we don't know as much about. And by putting Batman, I understand you want to do him sooner than later, but by putting him on the tail end of it, you are also, again, not getting people confused with Patinson and you know all that kind of stuff i i understand the logic i just disagree with it because i think that when you're coming when you're coming to the business that they need to do they can't put an unknown

property for their second movie they put an unknown property this isn't marvel uh and marvel didn't do that marvel did iron man Hulk captain america um well they did they did iron man and Hulk then they did thor then like man two then iron man two sorry was it i think it was iron man two then thor then Captain America than the Avengers. But it was all, but it was all characters that people knew, right? They didn't do Guardians of Galaxy into 2014. Yes, you could make the argument that, yes, people knew who Thor was, but the one thing that they were always saying about, and what was so phenomenal, I guess, about how they handled the Avengers in that whole phase one situation, the only one of those characters you could make an argument that is like a bigger thing than what was going on. would be the Hulk. People knew more or less it was sort of in the pop culture lexicon

about Iron Man Thor and Captain America. A Hulk had already had one or two movies beforehand. Exactly, but those three characters, those movies really took them from kind of in the comics, even though the Avengers are a big deal, from like a B-list general pop culture to now, or like a B-list situation where comic fans knew them,

to the whole world all of a sudden be like, you'll put some respect on Iron Man's name, and put some respect on Thor's name type situation. So I think you could, in theory, get away with it. Thor being unknown, which, again, he's a Norse god and people, he wasn't just thing. But over, like, the authority, like most people, if you say to non-comic book fans, have you ever heard of Iron Man?

Yeah, yeah, it's a comic book guy, right? You've heard the authority? What's that? That's what you get from most people. Same thing with Thor, everything else too, and it builds up. I just feel that because you look at the argument as far as the Brave and the Bold coming out

too soon to the Batman. The Batman is, was supposed to come out, I think, this year, but it comes out because of the strike. Right. It comes out in 2025. Superman also comes out in 2025. So if you put, okay. So if you put, but to your point, if you put Brave and the Bold in 2026 right after Pattinson's one, then it's like, well, that's, that's tough because of what your point is. However, what I'm saying is you do Supergirl in 2026 and then you do Brave in the Bold in 20, 27. Fair. And then it's right there.

So then I guess here's my follow-up question. Do we have any inkling if they're going to be doing more Matt Reeves Batman or any more Joker films after these? We heard a single thing. Let's let the box office speak. Sure. Yeah. I mean, both of them did gangbusters because what Joker did a billion and then the Batman did like 800? I think the Batman has been announced as a trilogy from what I believe.

So that's the only reason I'm hesitant. If you're going to do that, you're all of a sudden telling the common man to switch gears. And you're normally the one fighting for them. I'm normally like, they'll figure it out. No, but you're going to have to, but that, they made their own bed with that when they announced the elseworlds thing. Sure, sure, sure. If you announce a brave, any announced a Raven the Bold. Because if you don't, if you don't, if you have to wait until what you're saying is like, well, let's let the Batman trilogy play out.

let's say the Batman, they took it, the Batman came out in 2022, right? 22, I believe so. Yeah, we were back in theaters at that point. So, 2022, and then it'll be three years since the original. So 25, let's say it takes another two and a half three years. That's 2028, right? I mean, that is a really long time. You're going to wait, you're going to wait 2030 before you put the baby in the bowl down?

No, no, that's a real. I mean, that is with your math. Yeah. It's a solid point. I just, I guess that's just a. I know that I'm not going to be confused. I know most of the people that watch this channel are not going to be confused,

but I'm literally trying to take in what you were constantly pushing of thinking about the everyday person. 100%. That's when it was announced. The else world stuff, that was my first thing. But when you announce it and you're like, no, there's different things. This is connected to this. This is connected to this. Not the same thing.

Like I said, they made their own bed when they made that announcement. But if you also want to make sure that you're playing, because the thing is what they're hoping for, if Superman hits, there hasn't been a major blockbuster Superman film because Manisteele did better than people give it credit for. It did well. It didn't hit a billion dollars, but it did well. More so like the classic iteration of what Superman was in the comic,

because I told you, I love Manisteele and what Henry Cavill did, and we're going to talk about him in just a second. Different interpretation. Different interpretation, but that version of basically, the Boy Scout version is coming back. So if they hit with that movie like they're hoping to, and he becomes the big super superman's back as the guy again. If they can do that, then you start surrounded.

So now David Cornswets, the guy. And you're like, well, who's his foil with Batman? Who's, who's the Batman? And they're like, well, now that guy's going to, because if a movie hits, Cornswet's going to be a major star. And then he said, oh, there's Superman. There's Superman. Who's his Batman?

And now you're going to say, well, Superman is now going to be with Batman. I cannot believe I keep, like, just sticking to this one thing. I just, because then my, then my, Then my flip side is, you're right. Okay, you do need to, if you're going to set up this universe, you do need to get the Brave and the Bold rolling. Yep. So then what do you do in the sense of like, okay, the Batman part two, like, kicks ass?

And then all of a sudden, the Brave and the Bull comes out. And then it's like... It's nice. It's Enis Muscietti who did the Flash. Fair. But let's just assume that they're all doing super well. Again, now I'm thinking to myself, if the Batman, if Matt Reeves' verse is supposed to be said trilogy,

now what do you do? Because, again, I still think that you have fully... put that just kind of inception thought into my brain of like I'm now concerned about the regular person being like well okay what is going on right now and it absolutely and the elsewards thing

the second was announced I was like that's going to be confusing to people because like because right because the other side of it is when people because I'm sure there's already people in comics well you already have all the variants well you have decided that that's the storyline you're telling so there's a level of if you want to get involved in this you kind of need to understand what's happening

sure but just from I'm imagining like you said your cousin your uncle that just sees a trailer wait a man I thought that uh that that Twilight kid was Batman who the who the F is this Right and then you gotta look and you gotta go well You know the way it works is

And that's essentially we're gonna be the kind of vessels in between Because that's that's not on us That's right that's not and it's like look They're gonna take that shot to tell the connected universe And I think in order to sell that connected universe you've got to hit with some power and what better way to do it was if Superman then you give a good

a really good scene to Millie Alcock bring her in there and then you do Brave and the Bold and then set up the authority. I thought you were setting me up right now it's like you got to come in there with power and that's why you want to get AG1 and Bluetooth like I thought you were literally jumping into a damn ad. No I know not for this one not for this one but it's it's true and then if you

want to do because there's other movies and other shows too because aren't they supposed to do a green lantern yeah there's a there's the the lantern show which um i feel like i saw some sort of rumor of some announcement the social media is just turned into one giant just like yeah ugly ass just plate of food at this point that's all bad for you i this isn't because he's got the ring he's got that power ring that's green and healthy like ag one so age you one actually i'll tell you though with age you one it's the other and as I mentioned to you before, though, Winston, with eating well and everything,

like being able, I've been doing AG1, you know, for like three years. So that's been the one constant thing in my life. Even when I wasn't eating well, that was the one where it was like, that made me feel good because I'm getting my constant vitamins and I'm only, I was putting in one, because you've been, you've been now at least a year, right?

I'm on again off again. Okay. But it's, but it's, what I have realized is when I don't do it, I regret it. Like, it genuinely has. has gotten to that point now where I feel so much better when I do use AG1 that I notice when I don't. And I get good sleep off of it too because AG1, it has all the essentials that you need. And people tell me forever that you got to take your vitamins.

My father-in-law is like vitamins, vitamins, vitamins. I was like, so many of them coming in so many different directions. Like, no, just put it all in one thing. I shake it up. I put it in water. I have it every day. And the sleep quality part of it was something that I really, really enjoyed. I would recommend getting AG1.

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All right, moving on, Winston. You got some more news. Yeah. It's all DC show so far, because Matthew Vaughn, who directed the upcoming Argyle, and it comes out today. And Argyle stars, one of its stars, is Henry Cavill. So Matthew Vaughn has been working with him.

Matthew Vaughn apparently pitches a Red Sun adaptation with Henry Cavill as the Man of Steel. So what's this all about? Mark Cassidy. Mark Cassidy, I said that right. Mark Cassidy over at Comic Book Movie Writes. has never directed a DC Comics-based movie, but the filmmaker might be interested in a Superman Red Sun adaptation starring Henry Cavill.

The Argyle director, Matthew Vaughn, has helmed several comic book movies over the course of his career, including Kickass, Kingsman, and X-Men First Class, but he is yet to dip his toe in the DC movie universe. The filmmaker revealed that he would consider taking the helm of the upcoming Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow movie after House of the Dragons, Millie O'Lock landed the role.

But what about the man of steel himself? Brobibble.com asked Vaughn if he had any interest in directing one of the DCU elseworld movies at DCU Studios. Co. CEO, James Gunn is planning, and it sounds like he definitely could be persuaded to come aboard an adaptation of Mark Miller's Red Sun. I thought Red Sun was one of the clever comics that I've ever read. And the current world that we're living in, it's certainly become a lot more relevant because, causes more issues. And I think the more we learn about Russia and the Russian history. Vaughn then had the idea of casting our previous man of steel and his Argyle star Henry Cavill as

the Soviet Union Superman. Wow, could you imagine remaking Red Sun with Henry Cavill? That would be an interesting movie. The premise of Red Sun asked what if Superman's ship landed on a Ukrainian collective farm rather than in Kansas as we see the man of tomorrow grow to become a state-sponsored superhero whose civilian identity is kept secret and who in so. Soviet radio broadcast is described not as fighting for truth, justice, in the American way, but as the champion of the common worker who fights a never-ending battle for Stalin's socialism

and the internals expansion of the war shot pact. Red Sun is based on a thought that flitted through my head when I read Superman 300 as a six-year-old. Miller said, developing his initial idea for the story. It was an imagination story where Superman's rocket landed in neutral waters between the USA and the USSR, and both sides were rushing to claim the baby. As a kid growing up in the shadow of the Cold War, the notion of what might have happened if the Soviets had reached him first just seemed fascinating to me. As I got older, I started putting everything together and I first pitched something to DC when I was 13, I think, although it was a much cruder form, as I got older, I started putting everything together and I first pitched something

to DC when I was 13, I think. It was a much cruder form, of course, and my drawings weren't quite up to scratch. An animated adaptation was released in 2020, and Jordan Vock Roberts pitched a live action take back in 2017 but Warner Brothers decline so the question is Matthew Vaughn I really stuck I I didn't love Argyle you've seen my review my out of the theater action but I'm still major Matthew Vaughan fan I don't think this movie sees the late of day I don't think this movie ever happens I don't think this ever happens do I think that it would be an interesting thing to do and they're going to do an elseworlds movie this goes back to exactly what you're talking about beforehand too you're talking about being confusing wait have Cavill's not back

he is back where they're going to do an elseworld's thing with him, when are they gonna do with him? At what point are they gonna do it in five or ten years from now? Maybe in the same way that you're gonna do like a Copeland. Is he gonna do that in five or ten years now? Is he gonna, is he, I guarantee,

at this point, Henry Cabell is over Superman. He got screwed, he got screwed. Not by James Gunn and not by Safran, but he got screwed and he got thrown around the ringer but when it came to this, like people were so excited he was coming back after Black Adam, And they're like, oh, yeah, we're just kidding. You're not coming back now.

And, like, he must have a fella get egg on his face. Right. I think he's over it. I think here's the only solution I could see since we were having a debate about else worlds and how that works. You really have to drive home what elseworlds is. You have to drill in people's heads that these are just alternate stories and really make that true.

And in which case, it is not a bad idea to have more elseworlds products. Obviously this has not been announced. It's not like a thing. It's just something he said he'd be interested in. I still agree that it would be super confusing. But if you're going to do it, then you'd need to announce a number of those projects so that people get.

This is the main story you're following. But in the same way that you have the what-if show, just say you're just doing it on a movie scale. Now, Red Sun is an incredible storyline. It is so interesting. I could see... Henry doing something like this. I don't see him ever trying to come back or whatever.

I don't even think if they did like a crisis situation that he'd be like, yeah, I'm down to come. Like, I think he probably is a little burn. But if you gave him something like this where he really got to play with it, it's its kind of own isolated thing. I'm just back for this one thing. I could see him doing that.

Sure. I also don't know right now because I don't think Argyle is going to do very well. And I think that Argyll is, it's like a 36% on Rotten Tomatoes. And you know how Hollywood is. You got to, and I don't think it's the end of Matthew Bond in the slightest. I think he's got to come back. And for God's sakes, I want him to get out of the spy world.

I want him to get away from Kingsman. I want him to get away from this stuff. I want him to, I love X-Men first class. I love that movie. Layer cake, like the first Kingsman, great. But get out of that world. For some reason, he cannot get out of that world. And so he's probably going to do 47 Kingsman movies again

before we even see anything else too. So I hope, though, that he goes and moves and does something else outside of the spy thing. And then if he does an Elseworld's thing, they're not going to do a Superman Elseworlds for a very long time. But I've heard nothing but incredible things about this comic book. It is genuinely because I think the thing that people forget about comics is it is supposed to be a commentary on, like, society and whatnot. And I love what was being talked about of, like, where a lot. of the misinformation and fear and stuff comes from is that you don't learn something about other people in the world.

So you just automatically start painting stuff. So that is where it feels like at the beginning of reading Red Sun. And by the end of it, you're like, oh, okay, cool. And so I genuinely do think that it would be an awesome thing to do. And even like the article said, in this day and age where it feels like we are not just as like a country, but as a world drifting further and further apart, it would be very interesting to just kind of explore that. Yeah, I'm curious how they would do, especially with all the stuff politically what's

going on with Russia. I don't know. I don't know enough about the story, but is it pro Russia? Not really, like, yes and no. Right. Like, I am more familiar, like, I read the comic a long time ago, and I don't fully remember that. I am more familiar with the Red Sun animated movie they did in the last, like, what did it say, like three or four years? Something like that, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, And it was really, really well done. But it is one of those things that the main takeaway is that, yeah, there's like a different ideological and a different way that, like, a mentality.

And there's a, you know, a different way that we live life and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And there are evil people everywhere. Because, like, if you look at some of the Superman and Justice League stuff now, you have, you know, Amanda Waller and Cadmus and all that. And, like, even though they are trying to protect America, they're also kind of evil. Like the idea of putting bombs, like the suicide squad, putting bombs in people's heads, like criminals and using them as weapons, but disposable weapon, that's not okay. Right. But it also, you know what I'm saying?

Like there's, there's gray to it. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, what do you guys think? Do you think that, first of all, would you want to see this happen? Matthew Vaughn directing Henry Cavill and a Red Sun movie? I think most people are going to go, yeah, I'd love to see what that would look like. I think I feel. but then the other question is

how likely do you think it's going to happen? If it was likely, I would say you're not going to see anything even remotely close to that for another five to ten years. It doesn't be a minute. It's definitely going to be a minute, especially because they already have,

what I am scared of, because I do want the DCU to be successful, what I am scared of is you end up in a universal dark universe type situation. If you announce too much, Because set up your stuff first. That was a DCU's falling.

Somebody put up the graphic on Twitter being like, you remember we were supposed to get all this? And they had listed like 20 movies. You can't. Because Marvel didn't do that right away. Marvel got their movies successful first and then did that. Marvel's doing it now, but they weren't doing that before. And Marvel now is realizing we're not in a spot where we can keep announcing stuff

and everybody's going to be excited because people aren't excited about our stuff anymore. So you've got to be very careful with it. Anyway, so that's Matthew Vaughn and a potential Red Sun movie. Here's the next story. All right, let's move to something a little less controversial. Winston, people are losing their minds over this thing. Suicide, kill the Justice League, the big character deaths have been leaked, but are really that bad. Much has been said about the fact that Task Force X well kills the Justice League and Suicide Squad killed the Justice League and newly released cutscenes show the grizzly demise of each team member.

Suicide Squad, Killed the Justice League has been available on early access for a few days, and the game is still every bit of divisive and controversial as expected. With the premise of this story, it's not hidden in the title. Many DC fans have been vocal in their disdain for the notion that the Justice League would be taken out by Task Force X. Early on, the story reveals that Brainiac has conquered Earth and brainwashed the League into serving him. That leaves only the Suicide Squad under Amanda Waller's orders to stop them and save the planet from being conquered. The multiverse does eventually come into play, and the deaths are handled in a way that potentially leaves the door open to each hero returning. After all, how many superheroes truly stay dead.

That's true. If nothing else, at least fans can take solace in this being just one of many possible realities. As for how each character dies, footage from the game has found its way online, showing the grizzly demise of each Justice League member. I don't want to spoil this, but they show that they talk about the Flash. They talk about Superman and how that happens. they talk about, all of them, they give a breakdown and how it happens. But so people were losing their minds over this. And I think, but when I was talking to Mike on the show that, he said, what do you expect?

It's called, it's called just as it. It's literally in the title. However, I, when Mike said that the other day, I said, okay, yeah, yeah, you're right. But from reading what Mark Hassee wrote here, what is true, but they're saying the second the game was announced. If you had, if you had an issue with, with it right away, Yeah, well, that's what my argument would be, well, yeah, I didn't like it when it was in the title. So don't play it. That's exactly.

I am, I am so sick of people getting mad about things that have no reason to get mad. It's one thing. If you're saying the main continuity of Superman is Man of Steel and he broke Zod's neck, spoiler for Man of Steel. And you're like, whoa. And it's the only Superman that we have. Okay, then I'm like, I get that particular argument, right? I personally didn't mind the idea of what happened with Luke in The Last Jedi for myself because the idea of with you, and I'm sure I'm going to get flame for that, but whatever,

the idea of people getting older and making mistakes, yep, yeah, go ahead, get it all out, get it out. But again, I understand people being upset because that's main continuity and that's the main thing we're focusing on. So I understand that. This is a video game, set in its own kind of verse. Yes, it is the Arkhamverse, and I understand where some people are upset about this is the last performance you have of Kevin Conroy. No, they announced it that that was where our story was the other day is that that's what some people were upset about. But then there was a report actor.

It's like, no, he actually recorded more stuff that will be coming out after this. Well, then one, and those people can kiss my ass, especially knowing that. But it's just also from the standpoint of like, one, would you just let the chefs cook? Okay, if the gameplay is bad if the story is truly bad and you want to lambast the game fine But the idea of the suicide squad kills the Justice League remember a couple of things first of all in comics The only reason that the superheroes always win because most of these villains are just as powerful as them is just because Plot armor because Superman has to save the day This is a story specifically talking about the one time that they actually die and it's fine like

get this is this when people start saying stuff about how society has gotten soft this is where I start to agree with them because again it is one game it is one storyline and if you don't like it you don't have to play it you know what I'm saying and and and there are so many that's my push that's not not to you that's my pushback against the comment that came in as far as like well it's like when you guys you criticize stuff at Star Wars like yeah but I but there's certain it's like when I say with the bad batch when it comes to the thing with the size of interest they put her in there. And I was like, I don't like the fact that she's in it because it kind of negates,

it might negate the book. And then they say, well, it's not going to negate the book because it's probably going to play. Essentially what it's going to mean is either going to be flashback or it's going to show that she survived somehow. And I was like, well, I won't love that because it says nobody can die. However, doesn't mean that other people who are watching it that are going to watch it, aren't going to like it.

So it's like, I'm telling you my particular preference. And there's a difference. That person who's writing that comment is, well, that's what I was doing. I was just saying that I don't like it. No one's really saying that. That's not what Winston's saying. Winston's talking about people who are just like screaming and yelling. And that's just seems like that's what social media has become anyways.

People scream and yelling. The second it's announced, they don't want the suicide squad to do it. It's like, I don't, and I agree with you 100% that if the game stinks, then this game stinks anyway. That's completely different because then that's a situation where you've invested money into this and you're looking for a good gameplay experience and then it's bad. Now we're having a different conversation Because let me ask you this You may not have liked what they did

with the story with The Last Jedi Book Could we agree that Ryan Johnson Did a good job making the film? If you don't like the story, that's one thing But as far as the actual film It's a well-made film. It's a well-made film I don't like any of the choices, a lot of the choices.

Totally fine. And that is a fair opinion. It's also a fair opinion that you play the game and you go You know what the story just wasn't for me But that's not what people are saying. They're just like, You're going to kill the Justice League?

How would you do that? I don't even recognize it. again, the reason why the Justice League is constantly in fear and have to push through, because at some point, Darkside could win. And it doesn't mean that in Superman legacy, it's not going to be, well, we can't make Superman because he's dead now. It's like, no, it's a different story. So I don't know.

I just, I look, what I will ask is this, if you feel the exact opposite, I always ask people that come in here with, you know, a classy point of view. Keep a classy. Keep a classy. They show a little. But put it in there as far as why. What bothers you about it? And why do you think that it is a bigger issue than maybe we're making it?

So go ahead and comment. Let us know. All right. Last story of the day. I love this. I love this shot. So I'm going to find the other shot, too. But there's Kingpin and Matt Murdoch.

This is, you could have told me this is straight out of the Netflix series because it certainly reminds me of it right away. And then there's this picture of, Matt Murdoch, Foggy, and Karen, they're walking down the street together, and they're laughing. That was obviously just kind of like a candid shot of the three of them, but they're happy to be together, happy to be back.

But both of these shots, you can tell that, and to their credit, they went, what we're doing right now, this ain't working. We need to go back to the Netflix style. People like this. Somebody had that conversation. Somebody walked into the room, whether it was fighting himself or someone, too Fagie.

Someone said, people loved Daredevil, the Netflix series. We have the property again. They've always had it, but they don't have Perlmutter involved anymore. They have this in the MCU now. Why don't we just continue it?

Yeah. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Yeah, that's what they did it. Well, they were trying to fix it, and then they realized stop fixing it. Yeah, exactly. And so I think the thing that was interesting is they kept,

and I don't know if that's just Figey, just wasn't sure or if the Marvel in general wasn't sure or whatever there was always these illusions with any of the TV stuff that it was like associated and then it wasn't associated so like you had agents of shield where that was a big thing

and they kept like making references like I want to say at the end of season one you had a situation where Nick Fury shows up and then the end of season two or in the middle of season two you had a situation where I want to say Captain America Winter Soldier and Thor the Dark World

both affected that TV show. And it became interesting for that. And so you had in the Netflix shows, they would bring up, the Netflix shows would bring up, oh yeah, you know, the green guy was like, whatever, whatever. So like you were alluding that it was a part. So just clearly you made a, just maybe open it up now a little bit more

instead of just like, well, we got to make our own version. But I also like what they did. Look, Echo, I still haven't finished the last two episodes, but I did like where they were going, the attempt to say let's go a little bit more TVMing, right? Let's do that. Great. And now they're going to do, obviously

Deadpool is going to be rated R. So let them play in this sandbox. Let them play in the more adult skewing, you know, let's see how it does. Especially, I'm going to throw that thumbs up. Why? It happens.

It happened during one of your ads. How does it? It happens all the time and I don't know how to shut off. People, and I'm going to leave this in the damn show. If you know how to get rid of that stupid thing in OBS. What is doing it? It's like a setting. It's a setting. They started doing it for some reason.

I'll check before I leave. Please. Because I got, someone told me, you know, you get rid of it. You go to Zoom and it'll work for OBS. Bullshit. It doesn't, it happens all the time. It freezes my camera. I hate the stupid thing.

I did an upgrade to OBS and the dumb thing with the thumbs up. I'll take it a little before I leave. I'm leaving this in there. I'm leaving this in the show because I want to say if anybody knows why how tell me in the comments how do I get rid of that stupid thumbs up and all the I hate it well either way coming back just to the Netflix shows and all that I mean I know we were going to potentially but we're kind of running out of time we were going to talk about the Luke Cage discourse and everything like that yeah well what was it bringing up real quick

what happened the the main thing is it first started off with people like as this was starting to happen with the footage of where they're going where dare devil and whatnot. Luke Cage came up at one point, and what I mainly saw on black Twitter was a bunch of folks complaining about like, oh, how you're going to have, you know, Luke Cage, and all he does is fight black villains, and he ain't fighting no white villains that like me? And I'm like, are you all serious right now? Like, these are his main villains from his comic book and also the creator, Michael Coker, like straight up saying like, hey, A, these are the villains that were there. B, you got to remember we went source material here,

and Luke Cage slash Powerman started off as a black exploitation hero and has evolved over the years. I don't think there's anything wrong with taking that source material, evolving it in its own way, and then also just remembering because he is a street-level hero, those are the things he's dealing with. He's dealing with corrupt people within the community that are trying to take advantage of their own people.

It happens all of the time. So, like, I don't understand what the big complaint was, And I think he mentioned that he Both what the ideas were going to be for season three If it had happened, et cetera, et cetera. So if they do get a revival, I heard that the main reason that they didn't continue With Luke Cage at all

Because they did do a season three of Daredevil. They did do a season to a Punisher is that Michael Colter didn't want to do it anymore Because you have to stay insanely in shape To be Luke Cage that like Hemsworth doesn't care And he'll be Thor, he's fine. But like Michael was like, I can't.

Even Hemsworth talked about. I figure it might have been on Josh Harwood show. He just talked about the, like, I mean, Hugh Jackman talks about it all the time too. It's hard to stay in that shape. Because, because Michael Coulter is still a very in shape dude. Right, but that's different. But like, there's a difference between I'm in shape and I'm in superhero shape. Well, that's why I don't know how long Alan Richardson's going to be able to do it.

That dude is, he's a walking, he's a walking shed. He is, that dude is massive. Have you, have you ever gone back and look at some of his early work and then look at him now and see how massive he's got he's always been big but now he's insane wait a minute i just watched season one and then i saw the trailer for season two of reaper and he's significantly there which is what's crazy significantly bigger and it's crazy because he's jacked up in the first one well the first thing i remember him from what i think it was called like uh uh blue mountain state it was a football show that was on i want to say fx or something he was state but he was playing he was played a football

player so he was a big dude and then he was in titans and he was a big deal like i mean he's been and stuff other than that. But you're right. Then he gets a re-cher and he's like bigger. And then he gets to reach her and he's like, I couldn't believe it, dude. Did you eat a house? In the trailer for season two,

I said to my wife, I said, did he get bigger? How the hell is that guy gets so big? It's got to be steroids, bro. I don't know what. I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to comment the guy. I'm just like, that's not normal. He's a mutant, man.

He's a full-on mutant. Either way, I don't know. Luke Cage, to go back to that real quick, I'm a big fan of Luke Cage, even more than I was. Because if you guys noticed the other day, we had a sponsor on the show. It was Marvel Strike Force, the app. And essentially, I just had to stream myself playing it for an hour.

And I could have played it for three hours, but my wife needed help, so I knew I had to get off earlier than I wanted to. So, yeah. Finish your story, but I have something that just popped in my hand. So I was playing this game, and Luke Cage at first he was on my squad and he was getting his butt kicked and I'm like no he's not as powerful I thought and I did one power up and he was just

crashing people knocking him into buildings and yeah it was like Luke Cage is gonna throw those bombs bro and he taunts too he goes like this bro he eats the hell out of people which is fun what I was gonna say about Luke Cage that was interesting and this was the other thing I saw kind of floating around on Twitter in general which I thought would have been stupid thumbs up button

it came around again So we saw at the end of, well, you haven't seen the end of echo. Something happens. There is something that happens with Kingpin that follows a storyline in the comic books where he gains a lot of power. That's the only thing I'll say in the people that have seen the end of it or know what I'm talking about understand. Well, the thing that's very interesting is there is a point at time in which

Luke Cage goes down a similar route. Again, this is weird talking in generalities, but for people that understand what I'm saying, here. Let's just say, considering what this year is, think of it, and the things that it will be happening in America this year, think in those terms, that would actually be a very interesting storyline to see the two of them actually go and headbut in that arena. I think that that would be a very cool way to bring Luke Cage back into the fold, especially because it is the defenders. It is Daredevil and Luke and Iron Fist and Spider-Man and all that fighting

kingpin typically, so I think it'd be fun. There's a lot of stuff coming with this. Daredevil side of it brings another portion of the Daredevil Netflix universe into the MCU that I think they need because they need, I think that the Daredevil universe, Fantastic Four, and X-Men are really where the Marvel should go. I think that's where it should go moving forward. Get rid of all the side characters, get rid all the multiverse stuff, get rid all that stuff, and focus in, finish this thing up, whatever you're doing with the multiverse, and then focus on those because there's so many stories within the X-Men, there's so many stories you do within fantastic for it. There's so many stories you can do within

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