The Kristian Harloff Show - Obi-Wan Kenobi Finale SPOILER Review!
Episode Date: June 22, 2022Obi-Wan Kenobi put out it's sixth episode and finale. Is it the series finale? Time will tell. Obi-Wan Kenobi and Darth Vader face off once again. Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen reprise their ro...les in this epic finale. Deborah Chow directs. Reva continues on her quest for revenge. What will happen to the children of the Skywalker's? And what will be the future of the show on Disney Plus? Kristian Harloff gives his spoiler heavy thoughts on the episode. GET ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.athleticgreens.com/BIGTHING Follow on Twitter! Kristian Harloff https://twitter.com/KristianHarloff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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All right. All right. All right. There's a drop.
What's going on, everybody? It's the series finale, or we think it's series finale, season finale, series finale,
Obi-Wan Kenobi, six episodes. This one was longer. Still fairly short, including credits and everything else, too.
But nonetheless, longer, around 44 minutes, I think, with actual stuff to watch.
All right, I'm going to get into the full breakdown and everything that I normally do.
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Before we get into the breakdown, and I throw a bunch of pictures in there and talk about
the episode overall. I think that we can talk about the overall series. And if you didn't know already,
this is a spoiler-heavy episode. This episode in particular had really strong visuals.
And there's a lot of things, as I always mentioned, whether you're walking around a Comic-Con
or a Star Wars celebration or anywhere in general, and you see this really great art, and you're like,
oh, man, I wish that could come to life somehow. And that happens about a thousand times over in this episode.
there's a lot of things in this episode that I thought were really strong and for the
finale for the show that we got overall this was a satisfying satisfying satisfying
for that show however I do feel overall that this show is pretty disappointing
um I don't think that it it was to me it was one of my most highly anticipated things since
like force awakens came out and it didn't deliver it didn't deliver and anytime you have those
expectations it's not going to deliver, but it certainly didn't deliver in the emotional way I thought
it would because as great as this fight is between Vader and Obi-1, it didn't have the impact
that emotionally that I was hoping to have by the time we got there because I think that that was
due to the lack of lead-up on their story throughout this series. I think that what we were,
what I thought a lot of us thought was that going off of that line of Obi-1 once thought as you
did and trying to get my friend back.
And they even tease it in that opening previously on in episode one when Padme
says they're still good in him, that that was ultimately what this show was going to be
about.
And you get that a little bit here, but I just think by the time you've gotten to it in the
sixth episode, the story hasn't really been about that for the most part.
It's in his mind and he's thinking about it, but it's not the focus.
And I think that that took away from the emotional battle.
Another thing that I think affected this show dramatically,
and I'm a big music guy,
so some people are going to agree with me
and some aren't.
The lack of the original music inside of this series
hurt this show, I think tremendously.
And for people who go,
well, they wanted to do new stuff,
and they can't just rely on the music.
Tell that to Kevin Kiner from Rebels and Clone Wars,
who did a perfect mix of that.
And speaking of Rebels,
there's a moment in this episode where,
Anakin's face is revealed.
It's kind of beat for beat the same moment that happened in Rebels with Asoka when it happened.
And because emotionally how it was built up, I thought Rebels did it better.
So there was just a lot that as a character study that it didn't pay off the way that I was kind of hoping it would with Obi-Wan.
But as I was watching this episode and I said of everything that out of the stuff that I did like in this show,
show was there stuff that worked and was as satisfying as a finale. And it was for everything else
if you if you look at it. Okay. I didn't like this. I wish this would have happened, but I'm enjoying
this aspect of it. I think that to me that's why that's where I ultimately landed with the show because
I liked, there was a lot that I liked and a lot of stuff liked to watch that what they had set up.
I just wasn't as emotionally attached as I wanted to be. And there's some stuff that left a lot of
questions and things that I think that could have been omitted from this.
episode in general. And as we mentioned, many times over, that last week, I thought Riva had a
great end to where she went after her, she went after the evil and it didn't pay off.
It's like, you could have went the route that other people have gone, but you didn't because
you wanted revenge and you paid the price because they left a lot of problems on the table by
leave her alive. One, the fact that Vader and the inquisitor just left her there made no sense
whatsoever. And then we get the predictable turn that we all said before the series even started.
No, she's going to turn good. And there's no stakes to anything with her because you're like,
well, oh no, she's going to kill Luke? Of course she's not going to kill Luke.
Oh, no. What's she going to do? She's going to kill Owen? No.
But Baru, she's going to eat it?
No.
And Owen and Baru, what happened to them?
Apparently they could fight.
They could fight off an inquisitor.
They can't fight stormtroopers who can't shoot.
So there's problems.
There's problems in this overall series.
There is.
But I will say that, you know, it was better than it was,
when you get to that fight, it was just,
that fight does scratch an itch that we wanted to see.
But you get to Tatooine and we set us up, okay,
for some odd a reason.
Oh, we get this guy.
He's somebody's friend or uncle or somebody.
And he's smacked away by Revo.
And he gets his comeuppance from the beginning of the show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So she's looking for Owen.
And she's weaker.
That's the thing.
I don't know why she's wearing a hood at this point.
She was already in town looking for people.
Why she wearing a hood?
I don't understand why she hiding out now.
Are putting a hood in your head?
Aren't you the one that was?
here and strung up that Jedi.
Now's my cousin.
Oh, okay.
Hey, look, it's me.
Takes the hood off.
Where's Owen?
So this part, I dug the throwback to episode four and how the ships are chasing.
I think we stayed a little longer in here again, but I thought this was great where,
Vader is just obsessed.
And I always love these scenes here.
And this is some of the imagery that I'm talking about is so good.
And but I wish that a period of March would have showed up.
But they showed it at the end.
Yeah, I know.
And but this, this pain that he's going through.
And this pain is just like this, this, this lust for revenge.
It's just overpowering everything he's doing.
And that part I liked very much so.
And Obi-Wy one can feel.
Everyone knows what to do, what's going on here.
As this was, this had, again, throwback to Last Jedi where they're kind of being hunted down.
And it's just a matter of time before the,
going to be wiped out.
And everyone knows what he's got to do.
He's got to get the hell out of there.
Shea Jackson Jr. says, no, man.
He can't do it.
You can't stick around.
He's like, I got to go.
Tells Leia, Leia, he's like, no, you can't go.
And that happens three or four times.
And then there's a scene with, again, Luke walks in with Owen.
You see little Luke.
And then dude comes in and goes, I got bad news.
it's a lady with a hood looking for you.
It's like every lady in the town.
Yeah, but she's the one.
You remember the one that was,
the one that almost killed you in town square?
She's back.
Oh, okay.
She's looking for Luke?
All right, I got to go tell Baru.
Thanks, pal.
And Lay's trying to give Obi-Wans and listen, man.
You don't need to do this, yada, yada, yada.
They have this conversation a few times.
I like where they went with Camille's character eventually, though, too.
He was, I mean, even when he's, he's got personal.
personality now and the jokes didn't overpower and he's like he's like thanks for for for trust in me and
they have this moment and it shows obi won can trust again and he and he trusted in him in the last
episode he trusted him and again so i i like the the turn where they didn't they didn't just
pile on the the jokes for him and he still has his personality inside these conversations and he
winds up looking after lay and make sure that he has got a conversation with her so i like that scene
i thought that was i thought that was a nice scene brew shows up we finally see bru same actress from
episode three.
They got to get ready for the business.
It's going to happen.
And then they have blasters.
I should have had those when the Stormtroopers
was coming around.
Camille has this conversation with Leah.
Finally, she's like, all right, fine.
You got to go and do this, do this.
Get out of here, you big lug.
And he goes.
And it sets it up, but it's like, it's one of those things, again,
where as I'm watching, I'm like, okay,
I know that Leah and
Ben had this relationship at this point because they've set it up this pretty well.
So I get it.
She doesn't want him to go.
She doesn't want him to go.
He stayed on that ship for a while.
He's like, I got to go.
I got to go.
I'm going to leave.
Hey, guys, you're going to watch?
You're going to be a leader?
Okay.
I got to go.
You guys, you guys, okay?
Thanks for protecting the Jedi and everything.
But I'm going to help you.
I got to go.
And it was similar to the,
to the scene in episode, was it four,
when Riva keeps interrogating Leah like six times over?
It didn't last as long as that one it felt,
but it still, it did.
It did feel that way until,
maybe that was just because you're anticipating the battle
and you're like, let's go, let's go, let's go.
That certainly could be it, but it felt that way.
And I think that that's one of the things,
as I'm, like, I'm not hating on this show the way a lot of people are.
I'm certainly not loving it,
the way I was hoping I was going to.
But I can also acknowledge that.
I don't think the writing on this particular series was,
was,
it wasn't like,
it's not like bad.
It just didn't seem as locked in as,
say, like,
Mandalorian or,
I don't know.
It just was,
it was,
there was a lot of things like loose end stuff.
And at one point,
I think Riva comes in with a lightsaber and Luke's still there.
And it's like,
then why it's,
in episode four when he says,
hey,
I got a, what's this?
It's your father's a lightsaber.
It's the same thing that the inquisitor lady had when, um, when, you know, she came to
kill you that time.
Oh, okay.
What about, uh, what's the force?
The force?
I remember when you were running around and that inquisitor lady with the lightsaber was coming
after you and she threw you on the floor?
That was the force.
So like that kind of stuff.
It's like, don't even, don't even get yourself in that, in that situation.
There was no need for that whole thing at the end with the turn.
I mean, I don't think that the turn was, was,
was needed.
I don't think the story was as strong
as I think they were hoping it was going to be.
But
nonetheless, it happened.
And now we're back to Obi-Wy-on. I've got to go.
I'm going to get out of here.
You got to go? Yeah, I got to go.
Okay, go. And he does. And I love this
scene. This scene was great. This was classic
to me, Vader, Obi-Wan,
being the master here, and
knowing what his student is going to do, knowing
what Vader's going to do,
He knows he's going to chase him.
Inquisar's like, no, man, we're going to stop this rebellion.
This is, this is the seed, my man.
Let's get out of here.
He's like, nope, going after Kenobi.
He's like, all right, I'll be back.
They just order some Papa John, so I'll be, uh, you let me know if you need me.
So, and that's what he does.
He goes after him.
He knows he's, it's, it's that, it's that revenge, man.
What's the inquiscer are going to tell him?
You yell at him, he was smart.
He just shut his trap and went and ate his.
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All right, jumping back into it. That shot at Tatouine and Luke's house and all that.
We move on over and they tell him Owen and Peru.
It was good to see Owen and Peru back, though.
As much as I'm breaking chops of how they're definitely more efficient in here
and then they age rapidly in nine years where they're just basically just peaceful farmers
and don't want to pick up a blast or do nothing.
Luke's like, all right.
And then we get back to this.
This is where it all, this was what they were pitching from the beginning when they were pitching it to us.
They were pitching everybody, the rematch of the century.
And they deliver on the fight.
I'm going to tell you that right now.
The fight was fantastic.
The imagery of this fight was fantastic.
I think that, again, I will reiterate,
whether it was duel of fates, Battle of Heroes,
a little Imperial March, any of that stuff,
and I'm sure a million people over
are going to be making the videos with the music attached to it,
and they're always better,
and I can't wait to watch them.
But Obie's ready, and I liked how serene he was at this point.
Because he's not, when you look him in episode three,
he's all frazzled, and he doesn't know what to do,
and he's not prepared for it.
This is like the Obi-One that we knew.
And he's like, okay, I got to get ready.
And he's prepping himself for the battle in a very different way.
It's like a prize fighter that's just like knows what's coming,
knows his opponent, knows what he's got to do.
And he's not like, he's got nerves.
But he's ready to scrap.
And then you get Vader's shuttle coming down.
And you see this was the shot that I really enjoyed.
He's got the droid.
And he's, it's like this piece.
and calm over him knowing.
And that's what the, that's the Jedi way, right?
It's like let, let, let that come over you.
Let that help you in your guidance.
And that was all, that also is a testament to you and McGregor,
but this was one of the really nice moments
that I thought in the show that worked.
And these are some of the moments that, for me,
they make this show, the enjoyable stuff that I really dug.
And you get the little droid,
and then Riva shows up with a hood for some reason.
Why is she showing up with a hood everywhere now?
I guess it was because of the symbolism because of Anakin down the line.
But I mean, she's turning more into Anakin.
I guess that was kind of what they were trying to do.
But who's around?
What are you wearing a hood for?
I mean, they know you're coming.
And you haven't worn a hood the whole show.
What are you wearing a hood for now?
But she's wearing a hood.
Hey, look.
I switched my sneakers styles for a while.
Sometimes I wore something.
I never wore it.
And they put them on again, and who knows?
All right.
So Owen says to Peru, you got to do this.
You ready to do this?
I said, yeah, stupid, I gave you the guns.
Let's do it.
And then Vader shows up in the shuttle.
And this is, this, this scrap.
I mean, talk about everything that has some of the imagery, though.
I mean, I've shown you some really cool stuff thus far,
but this is where all the money shots are.
I mean, Vader getting off a shuttle.
And then this, this, this state, look at this.
I mean, this is a thing.
beauty. I love this shot. I want to put this on my wall. Like,
Obi-1 staring down Vader from across the way. Vader, with all the rocks and everything.
This was like, this is like a classic kind of Star Wars art. It's almost like a Ralph
McCory type design. I love, I love this shot. I really do love this shot. I think it was,
I think it's fantastic. Yeah, I absolutely love this shot. How would he come from? How did he get
back there? What the hell did you get back there? What the hell? How'd Luke show up again?
Okay.
Sorry, I lost my, lost my, lost where I was, there we go.
And again, once again, the stare-off happens.
This shot again, I mean, there's so many great shots here with, I mean, they put all of the,
everything that when they were designing this with the art, like they were probably geeking out.
Like, with the shuttle in the back, Vader staring down, Obi-Won,
And Obi-Wan just kind of smiling going, all right, bub, let's do it.
It's beef.
And then they just start.
And they fire at each other.
And they just, like these two, anytime they fight, all their battles is just intense.
And they go at it and there's like that.
And then they pulled back.
And with the moon in the background, this was the type of stuff where I still, I mean, people are, some people are giving Deborah Chow a lot of crap.
And I think there's some stuff inside of this series that I didn't love.
But I still think she's a phenomenal director.
And this type of stuff is where I stick by that.
When you look at these shots that she's using and the stuff that she's doing
and the way that she's shooting these fights,
I think that this particular battle was great.
It was great.
I love this battle.
But the problem was, again, everything that was leading up to it,
like I wanted to be an emotional mess watching this match.
You know, the same way like, no, Anakin, come on, brother.
And even if you know he's not coming back,
but the fact that the way that they hopefully kind of setting that up
of I got to get my friend back,
Padmay told me that they're still good in him.
Maybe she's right.
Fast forward.
Obi-1 once thought as you did.
Go back.
And now when we get there, it's like, okay, he's going to make this move.
By the time we get to that fast, the face slash at the end,
and he's like, come back, Anakin, you know, let's, I can save you, I can help you.
And he's like, Anakin said, like the lines and the stuff that he said,
Anakin or Vader says to,
Obi-Wan, great.
I think it played out really well.
Problem was, once again,
not locked in as much as I think that if we were
from previous episodes,
that it would have had more impact and music.
Music would have played more.
Because look at the music, when they use the Imperial March,
when Vader's talking to the emperor,
and we'll talk about that in a bit,
very impactful.
And I think that that's kind of the point
that will be made in interviews and stuff too
is well we wanted to introduce it there because
that's the lead in to everything we're going to see
yeah but they use it in rebels and I know rebels
is afterwards still but
it still you would have
had way more of an impact and even
and fine if you want to have that argument
well then why not battle heroes why not
if you look at any video that anybody has
made putting in the original music
and it's not just because it's familiar
it's because the emotion that these
characters have gone through and the same reason that when
I just watched a video the other day when you had Henry Cavill flying around with the John Williams theme.
And not just because it's John Williams, but because that theme in general has been, or I'll use a better example, so it's not John Williams all the time.
But in the second Avengers, when the Avengers are teaming up, they didn't use the theme.
It pops in very briefly.
When it comes back in in later movies, especially in Infinity War and end game, it's just so much more impactful, not just because,
because it's a great score because you're attached to it and because emotionally you're attached to it.
And it's familiar.
So when you're doing a familiar show, like I understand if you're doing a show of characters,
even in the same timeline that have nothing to do with any of these people.
And you'd use all new themes.
Like for Mandalorian, right?
I understand that you there's a lot of people inside of that.
You don't need to use the force theme and other things.
And you used it once Luke came back because that was his theme and you're familiar with it.
So I think you would have had way more of an impact in this fight.
as good as this fight was. I think it elevates by about 100 or 200% if you had put that kind of music in there,
I think anyway. But the battle was, once again, a fantastic fight, and they both have their moments.
And Vader, you knew, but I guess it's one of the issues too, is that you know kind of where this is going to go
from the moment that it starts because Vader's having his way again.
And then this is the stuff that drove me nuts in this episode.
Why is she walking around with a lightsaber?
Not because, well, why wouldn't she?
She's Inquisitor.
Because Luke has no idea what the hell a lightsaber is when we meet him for the first time.
Owen and Peru are not fighters.
And, well, it's nine years before it.
Nine years.
It's only nine years.
And by the end of this, he's still, he's kind of chummy with Obi-Wan.
Is it what are you doing here?
Yeah, you want to meet him?
And he hates his guts again nine years later.
What did Obi-Wan do?
steal milk off his porch.
So they started, I did like when they started blasting at her, though,
because she gets fierce quick.
And it just, it goes down quick.
And he kind of had it needed it to.
And she's just, and, and she's weaker.
You know, she's dealing with stab wounds that apparently anybody besides
Quigon can get hit in the stomach with a saber and be all right.
She's getting blasted.
She's, she's pissed off.
And then back and forth to Vader.
And now Vader is.
trying to figure out how to beat his old master here.
I know why Luke keeps popping up.
And they have these battles.
It is.
But this was, this was,
I think again,
when you have the same answers for it,
because as you're watching this,
and I'm saying to myself,
why am I not as locked in as I want to be
as much as I'm enjoying this match?
Why am I not as emotionally locked in?
And at all examples I just gave,
the other thing is,
well, you know,
no matter what's going to happen,
here, nobody's going to make it out. He's going to make it out. And so he, it's, this, this was,
this was pretty fantastic, though, where he opens up the ground, he throws some stuff down on,
look at these shots. This is, this is the stuff, like, as much as I, like, I'll hit, I'll hit
something with a, with an emotional criticism, and then I look at it with the visual, the visual critique,
and I'm like, Vader has the high ground right there. I mean, that's the, the poetry of it, is Vader finally
has the high ground over over obiwan he's got him and he's going to now he's going to punish him
again and he's going to start tossing rocks down on him and he's and he's got him and then this is back
to and i'm going to rationalize and you guys you guys can counter this or agree with me
how the hell owen is able to owen emberu both be able to fend off riva and i guess that
the answer is going to be because she's hurt because he's just like a guy like a guy's
stick or something. And it was a nice
moment where he's like, it shows you a little bit
more of the Owen side where he's like
he is mine. He is
my kid.
Because she's trying, and there's not a lot
that continues
on to that scene, but it was a nice moment to show
how much Owen and Brew really cared about
Luke. And you got that. And I thought that
worked well. And it was always great to have.
I think that's, you know, one of the things
that, where you can say,
why this particular scene, at least we
get to have them.
back and to show this relationship with with luke so i get it i don't know what the hell and
this is this obs man what's happening here i can't find it guys there it is all right so now he's got
a stick and he just starts poking her with the stick and he just get out of here you and she's
like nope you're out of here and she now fights peru and bruce is close your eyes don't see the
I'd say we're not supposed to know what one is.
Get out. And he gets out. And he runs across and she's,
she doesn't kill anybody anymore. So right, right then and there, you know, she didn't,
in the beginning, some poor old lady just sitting around saying something,
then Riva cuts her hand off. She's slashing Jedi. She's doing all this shit. She's pissed
in the beginning. And she's wiping people out left and right. Now, she's equally as mad now,
but she's letting people go. Because she's more worried about Luke and just the revenge,
but she's not slashed.
And these people just are shooting at her and doing anything.
She's just letting them go.
Everybody lets everybody go in this show.
It happens again in the show later on as well.
But she lets him go because she's more concerned with Luke.
And Luke runs, that's a pretty cool shot as well.
She's pretty determined to go get him.
Obi-Wan now.
And this seems pretty fantastic as he's laying down.
And he starts once again using the peace and the serenity
of the Jedi and listening to all the stuff that had happened in the past but getting himself out
and it's like that it's it's that come to Jesus moment right because he comes out and now here's
here's Vader he senses it again and then they go at it again but this time obvi one's leveled up
now he's now he's ready and he push I love that I'm gonna I'm gonna force push you he's like
no bitch I'm force pushing you this time and he pushes him and tosses
Vader's ass. And it was, it was, it was awesome to see the vulnerable side of Vader now and, and
seeing him lose him in a more in a battle like this and how he kind of ultimately slows down.
I don't know how I feel about this. And I want to, I want to hear from you guys, how you feel
about this. If Obi-Wan is this powerful, and he's lifting up rocks like this and really
firing things over, nine years, only nine years earlier. First of all, why do they need Luke?
I mean, I guess that's why they call him on and do this by himself.
And, I mean, he's not getting too old for this.
I guess he says in episode four, but like, I mean, he's like, yeah, man,
but you see yourself nine years ago?
You picked up like half a mountain and threw it at Vader.
And by the way, can I ask you why you didn't kill him a second time?
Just let him sit there when, why do you want me to do it?
You made me kill my pops when you could have just done it yourself?
You're a real butthole.
Yeah, but watch what I got.
do with these rocks and he starts firing the rocks at vader and this is this is brutal she's just like
hitting him and then vader vader knows he's in trouble here he starts kind of wheezing a little bit
and we're back to riva force pushes luke onto the floor and then now it now it's like like i said
this is this just reminding me of a tyson fight but like vader comes in
tyson 86 but he's pretty much fighting like tyson 2003
2004 because he's opening himself up.
He's trying to throw big haymakers and he's just getting lit up with combinations.
And that's what happens here.
He just can't.
Now he's just overpowered and everyone's just messing him up, throwing shots and slashes him across his back.
I love this.
I mean, this was a great battle.
Great battle.
And then he stands up again.
He's no quitting this head.
But then boom, right across the face.
And I was absolutely thinking of rebels at this moment.
moment because you knew it was going to happen and you were going to see Hayden's face.
And I think that that's probably going to be the argument from a lot of people is that the
difference is that we actually get to see Hayden's face this time.
You actually get to see him because in animation, it's obviously the animated version of Hayden
Christensen, but here he is.
And this is what I'm talking about, this moment here, this emotion, and this is all brought
to you because you and McGregor is such a phenomenal actor and everything.
And you feel it, you know you're supposed to feel it.
but this right here this moment like this was the this was the whole crux of what we what the show
could have been about with the mission every single episode about more the history of it the
understanding of what Vader's been doing what has happened leading into it like uh convinced
that he can bring bring his his buddy back convinced because the way he shuts down here and or just
It's like, oh, my friend, Anakin.
And then Anakin's like, Anakin's dead.
And don't worry about it.
You didn't kill him.
I did.
And then that's, and this sets up, I thought, did some good stuff with episode four,
because we get the reason why he calls him Darth.
We get the reason why he's like, my friend is dead.
We get the reason why he's just, he's, he's learning all these things about
Anakin in that moment.
And that's why I said a young Jedi named Darth Vader killed my.
He betrayed to murder your father.
And that's where that's where that comes from.
So I liked that.
I thought that was good.
But then like I said, it's like you get where he tells him,
oh, my buddy's dead.
He's like, all right, well, you're going to destroy you now.
Let's do it.
I killed him the way I'm going to kill you.
Let's go for it.
And he goes, nah, I'm going to go now.
I think the Inquisitor left me some of that Papa Johns.
So see you later.
Bye.
And he just leaves.
And he's like, no, come back here.
And it's like, why in the world would you leave this guy alive again?
Didn't you learn your lesson when you left him?
This is the second time that Obi-Wan has done this.
And millions of people have died afterwards.
Oh, you had him.
You had him twice.
You had him twice.
You had him the first time of Mustafa.
All you had to do is go, you're a marshmallow.
And now you have a little.
him, he's done. He can't be, you've clearly, you've clearly beaten him. You've beaten him.
Take him out. What are you doing? If your friends, well, my friend's truly dead then, and you
kill them? Well, I'm not going to avenge my friend. I'm just going to see you next time, buddy.
Like, I don't know. I was that, that, it was like, what, what are you doing, Obi-Won? Go get him.
We'll make some boneheaded decisions there. So he flies away and, and Reva's still hunting Luke.
and there's this moment
and again, I think that this moment
is nice and I understand
that I just didn't have the emotional impact
I think they wanted me to have.
I didn't have the emotional reaction to it
that they wanted me
to have.
Because this is, again,
she's got the hood up because you want to go back
and forth. She sees her younger self.
I thought this was a powerful moment.
Sees Luke and then
is she going to do what Anakin did?
Is she going to become Anakin?
or is she going to choose the light?
And in this moment, I'll make this clear,
for the obvious reason,
we know she can't kill Luke,
but in general,
in a moment like this,
I'm glad that she chose the light.
But I just don't wish that she wouldn't have been in that position
because I think that, I don't know,
I think that it was just set up from the beginning.
It was predictable.
And it's like that's one of the things.
It's a hard enough thing to do
when you have a show that we're,
know the impact or the outcome of where everyone is going to land.
So that's hard in general.
That's never,
that's never easy.
Anytime you do a prequel series or a prequel movie or anything,
that's always the tough thing.
And so you try to add new characters and things inside of that
because that way,
this is a new character we know nothing about,
so that becomes a little less predictable
because it's going to be harder for Obi-1
because you know ultimately what happens with Obi-1.
You know what happens with Luke.
You know what happens with Owen and Peru.
So you can add stuff to their story
that you hope, again, adds to develop their character more.
And it's a struggle to get the audience to not know the predictability of it.
So when you add a new character, you want to be, try to be not predictable.
This was set up from the start.
And some people will throw back, well, yeah, but that's what Star Wars always does.
Yeah, but don't you want a little bit of a change sometimes?
And it's like that it was too predictable.
You knew exactly what was going to happen from the second they set it up.
The second they started calling her Eva.
They weren't even calling her the sister anymore.
They were calling her a third sister.
They were calling her Riva.
And like, well, they don't call anybody else that.
And you could just tell from the presentation
of the character in general,
you knew that it was going to turn.
So this wasn't, so I think that even though this is that moment,
and by the way,
I think Moses, Ingram did a very good job in this episode.
I think that she,
I think once she locked into the character,
I think that she got a real hold on it.
And it's not, I don't have an issue with,
with the performance of Moses Ingram in this episode.
I just think the writing of the character wasn't great.
Because she picks up the saber and this,
like this is a moment in any show.
Whenever you're watching,
you're like,
oh my God,
is she going to do it?
Well,
we know she's not going to do it.
So this moment that she's that,
that they're posing right here,
in no world are we going to say,
oh, no,
like we're not,
like,
what the hell was I watching?
I was watching,
and very different shows or movies.
I was watching black phone.
And there's like a kind of what the hell's going to happen here?
And I was like on the edge of my seat going, oh my God.
And I was like emotionally attached and going, what's going to happen?
I wasn't there for this.
And they kind of want you to be there for this.
But the reason why I'm not there is because I know she's not going to do it.
And I know before she, when she shows up to tat, when she shows up right there, I know she's going to turn back.
Because Vader's nowhere to be found.
So he's not going to take her out.
Inquisitor is is, is slopping down pop and Sean.
right now. And who else is a threat? They're not going to find her. So she's got it's got a turn.
It was just, and maybe I'm wrong. Does anybody else, do anybody else think it was not predictable?
If I'm wrong, I would love to hear it in the comments, and I'm sure I will. But then,
Obi-1 shows up, hey, where are they? I don't know. They're in the desert somewhere. We've got to go
find him. No, no need. Here I am. I got the kid. And I'm good now. Oh, okay. Cool.
So I guess we won't be mad at you then, that you tried to slash us. And you're not mad at us,
because we shot a shit? Nah, here's the kid. Okay, thanks. But I'm sad. Well, don't be sad. Why?
Well, because I'm right here. And I'm not going to make you sad anymore. But I thought it was a great
speech. And I thought it was a nice moment between the two of them. Once you get to this angle and you go,
whether you like the angle or not, and they're talking, you go, okay, here's, this is a nice
moment. You chose it right. And she's like, it's her understanding. This is where I thought
Moses is going to be a really great job where it's the, she doesn't really understand yet. She
think she failed because she didn't avenge because she felt she was weak because that's what
she's been taught. She felt she was weak. She felt that she didn't avenge her friends and therefore
let them down and failed them. And always was like, no, that's not that's that's exactly why
you succeeded. And I thought it was a very sweet moment. I thought it was a good moment. And I thought
that if you're going to do the turn, I thought that particular turn worked really well. And that's what
I was talking about when I'm saying, like there are a lot of moments in here that worked for me. And there
a lot of other ones like just logic and overall because of the
the way that the show in general has panned out, I think has
heard it just a bit. But this was a sweet scene by Moses Ingram. I thought
she did a great job and I thought that it was, even though I don't like,
I don't like the decision of turning her good again, I think that she played the turn
really well. She drops the symbolism, it drops the saber, hopefully nobody finds it.
Maybe the old lady finds it from, from Riza Skywalker.
Who are you? And then this scene, pretty fantastic.
We were wondering if we were going to get the emperor back.
We get him back.
He looks great.
This is one of the best, the way that they made him look here.
Very similar to more Jedi than Monster Revenge of the Sith,
which I thought this, and I liked it, and he's calm and he's not angry.
It's like when you do an Arnold impression, some people need to do Arnold impression.
Some people, he just talks like this and said, come on.
Come over to my house, some whiskey and lulu, and come in the potty.
And that's the same thing with emperor.
Every time we do the emperor, he's always like,
And now you will die.
And I still have Arnold in there.
But instead, he's like, Lord Vader, your emotion, or whatever the hell he says to him about,
oh, you want, but he's calm and he's not angry.
And he's just, he's more calm.
He's like, I see you're a little, you're a little pissed off, my friend.
What's going on?
Tell me about it, buddy.
Um, so I like that scene.
And then it's, it's, it's, this is where we get the Imperial March.
And he's like, no, no, no, I'm, I'm, I'm not going to worry about Obi-Wan anymore.
I'm, I'm good.
And then the Imperial March plays, goes off and then get the Saldor on scene.
We get the blaster.
I thought that was a nice moment, by the way, that I skipped over before when, when Lay gets tall as, um,
blaster comes and sees him.
Again, great moments here between her parents, but a good moment, Obi-Won shows up.
And he has, he doesn't tell her about who her parents are.
but he tells her in a way where he's like,
this is what you have.
And these are the good things that both your parents had that you have.
And I thought that was a great moment.
I still think later we're probably going, wait a minute.
You know who my parents are?
Tell me.
But he leaves.
See you later.
Raps up his cave, says I'm out of here.
This moment, it's a great moment because they're good actors
where he says to what are you doing back here.
Hey, I just wanted to say, you know, you were right.
I'm out of here.
Why is, if, if, if, if Obi-Wan told him he's right,
and he's just going to be in the shadows,
why is, why is he still pissed off at him by the time we get to episode four
and call him crazy old man?
Um, and there's, hello there with Luke.
Some people are, are, are upset that they met.
Why?
In, in episode four, he, he, um, he knows him.
Say, I was wondering if he means, uh, old Ben Kenobi.
He's 10 years old, right?
If my, if my, it, we met him a couple times.
if my kids met somebody
he was like, oh yeah, yeah, is that the guy
that my dad introduced me to like nine years ago
was his name? Oh yeah, old Ben.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, I think that that's, I don't have an issue with that at all.
And then we get the, yet again,
the, if you get the Obi-Wan, he shows up
and there's the, there's the Force Ghost.
I have no issue with the, some people are worried
and complaining about the fact that Quigon
couldn't figure out how to actually come back in
physical form or you know only could come back in in voice only that that one i can get over pretty
quick maybe he figured it out because it was good to see him and and leiam nison i love him the death he's
officially a liar uh and and here he is he says look i've been here the whole time it just took you some
time to get back into it figure yourself out and you did it so we got a lot of trainings deal
let's get the hell out of here and that's what he uh and that's what they do and
he's got his email or whatever that thing is and and off they go um so yeah i i think that
over and and even even that moment right with with with with quig on it's a nice moment it was kind
of like in wrestling they call like it's a cheap pop and it was it was great to see him
but how much of an impact did it have it was almost like he's trying the whole time
He's trying the, and I think even that, like we got it a few times throughout the series.
Quigan, listen to me, man.
I'm trying to help this.
I'm trying to do that.
I'm trying to do that.
Help me out here.
What do I got?
And then it's when he's finally able to get a piece that Quigon is able to appear to him.
I dig that.
But I just think that I think the biggest issue with this series for me was focus.
I think that the focus of what the story could have been, should have been maybe, wasn't.
But overall, I liked the series.
I didn't love it.
I wanted, I was hoping that this, and I think I even said at one point,
I think this is going to be some of the best Star Wars content since Empire.
It wasn't for me.
I still think Mandalorian 1 and 2 are far superior.
I would say 2 is the best, then Mandalorian season 1.
Boba Fett, I think the Mandalorian episodes for sure,
and stuff with Luke, far superior than what was stuff that we got here.
But overall, I think that I enjoyed the series more because it's just the stuff in Star Wars that I like more.
So, but it was, but it's stuff.
I understand that it's funny when I see people are with, with a lot of criticisms for the show.
I see them.
I understand them.
I get them.
But I also understand the love for it.
And I understand the, the, the, the visuals and the things that we see for this show were outstanding.
But hey, man, it's the same thing.
It says, I stand by, well, people will keep.
asking me this question, hey, you still like Star Wars TV?
Do you think there's too much of it?
Don't you think that it's got CW quality?
I love it, and I would take TV 10 times over film every time over, every time over.
Why?
Because we're going to be discussing another show in August and or, and if the, now, there's
two arguments, and I understand this.
If the show is amazing and people are going to,
be loving the show. Everyone's going to love Star Wars again.
Everybody's going to be all over the moon about Star Wars and saying,
oh, they should have done Obi-Wan like this.
If they would have done this, oh, my God, where did this come from?
This is the way that Tony Giroi should be doing everything.
That's what's going to come if it's great.
Now, if it sucks, the same thing is going to happen that's happening here.
They should stop doing Star Wars forever on TV.
TV's not working, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then Mandalorian will come out.
And then, oh, Mandalorian's good, but everything.
So this is the beauty of streaming for me.
is that it's there for you to watch.
If you're paying for the app for whatever it might be,
maybe it's not even for Star,
maybe it's for Marvel,
maybe it's for,
for kids movies,
maybe for,
if you have kids or whatever it is,
either way,
you watch the show,
you like it,
you don't like it,
you share your thoughts,
and that's what you do.
So,
anyway,
that was the overall,
it was a long one here.
It was 45 minutes.
And then I also would like to,
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All right.
I like you guys.
You guys are cool.
And I'm happy to...
Well, there he is.
There he is. It's quite gone.
It was good to see him, though. Come on.
Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Oh, I guess I can finish with this.
Season two.
Same way I feel about Boba-Fet.
Let's move on to something else now.
I don't need to see a season two.
Let's move on to something else.
You get all these different things,
whether it's a...
There's that rumor that I put out there yesterday with Calcestis.
There's the, there's the acolyte.
Andor is going to have a couple seasons.
Let's focus on the other stuff.
I think put it in the can.
Obi-Man Canobi.
There's some great moments in it.
You go back and revisit it whenever you want.
Same thing with Bobafet.
Let's move on.
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