The Kristian Harloff Show - Obi-Wan Kenobi! Is O'Shea Jackson Junior Playing Quinlan Vos?

Episode Date: June 3, 2022

Obi-Wan Kenobi has been the topic of conversation over the last few days. The new Star Wars show set records for Disney Plus. One of the characters that has been re-introduced is the character of Quin...lan Vos. A Jedi Knight turn Sith turned Jedi Knight. O'Shea Jackson Junior has been cast in the show but has not shown up yet. Could he be playing the popular Jedi? Doctor Strange sets a release date for Disney Plus, The Boys season two released today. Stranger Things; is the binging strategy helping or hurting? And Frank Stallone calls out Michael B. Jordan and has suggested that Sylvester Stallone was kicked off of Creed 3. This and more on today's episode of The Big Thing Follow on Twitter! Kristian Harloff https://twitter.com/KristianHarloff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up, everybody? It's a late episode of the big thing today, whether you're getting this on podcast form or YouTube's. The YouTubes. So I was full transparency shooting a rewatch episode for tomorrow and was doing some other things related to some schmodeown stuff and other things. So I had to postpone. I had some meetings this morning also, so I had to postpone.
Starting point is 00:00:26 But I said, I got to get a big thing episode out. I have to. Plus, there's a lot of stuff to talk about. Dr. Strange announced that they're coming to Disney Plus. Pretty soon, the multiverse of madness, that is. That's coming. So we'll be talking about that. There is some beef that was going on that didn't realize a couple of days ago with Frank Stallone
Starting point is 00:00:45 and Michael B. Jordan with some rumors that Sylvester Stallone was kicked out of Creed 3. Interestante. George Miller. Is film in Furiosa? That's coming out too. But there's a lot of questions that came in. I said, you know, I'm going to do a full episode today. Even though there's not a ton of news, I figured maybe I'll take some questions from the audience. I put some stuff on my Facebook page and YouTube on the community page.
Starting point is 00:01:17 And I said, ask me some questions, maybe some stuff and topics that you guys want to talk about. And the one that came in that I think I'm going to make obviously the main topic, if you clicked on this episode, to see, a lot of rumors about Quinlan Voss, a Jedi from both the Clone World. Phantom Menace is his first appearance, but Clone Wars, and the thing I know him the best from is Christy Golden's Dark Disciple novel. Spoiler for Obi-Wan, you didn't know.
Starting point is 00:01:45 He was rumored. Not rumored, but he was mentioned in the show. So the question now is, A, is he going to show up at all? And B, as you saw on the topic of this video, Will O'Shea Jackson Jr. play him? That's what we're going to get into. That and more. And before we do, I know a lot of people have been asking about it,
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Starting point is 00:02:50 Just subscribe and download the episodes. All right, let's get into this thing. It's the big thing. What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to this episode of The Big Day. All right, let's just jump into some news first. News first. And then we'll get into your questions, which is essentially news as well.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Beavis and Budhead have a new trailer out. I don't watch that yet. So I can't talk about it. Otherwise, I'd be lying to you. And I don't want to do that. We have too good of a relationship. Trust is everything. Can't do it.
Starting point is 00:03:35 haven't seen it. And then I guess there's an arachnophobia remake coming out too. Look at this. Okay, the first thing to talk about, though, is just Dr. Strange news. The sequel gets a Disney Plus date. It's Dr. Strange. Good old Garthy Franklin. I don't know him well enough to call him Garthy. In fact, I don't know him at all. Garthy Franklin writes, Disney Plus has today announced that Marvel Studios Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness will arrive on the service exclusively. June 22nd. It's 20 days away. If my math is correct, the Sam Ramey directed film will thus arrive on the service 48 hours, nope, 40 days after. Who cares? 48 days after it's May 6th debut in cinema. So far, the film is taken in 376 domestic,
Starting point is 00:04:25 879 million worldwide at the box office to date. The release also comes just over two weeks ahead of the next MCU entry to hit screens with Tycho at TD Store, Love and Thunder, which hits cinema on July 8th. This is just the way it goes nowadays. Meaning, remember when you used to get shows that, or movies in the theater and then you got to wait about a year before it hits HBO or times are changing and so many different things, especially the last two years when things were getting direct, you know, in theater on streaming, release at the same day.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Now people want it, and you're going to lose people if you wait too long. So they're going, okay, let's look at it like the Batman. The Batman was out in the theater. I think it's a smart move, honestly. Once the tickets start going down, it's still in the zeitgeist, man. Put it on your streaming service. And I think that's a good move for Disney right away. Plus it leads right into Thor.
Starting point is 00:05:27 This is a great move. As opposed to Thor comes out and then, oh, yeah, right, Dr. Strange came out. And you're also asking people from Dr. Strange, but you haven't seen it. All right, this is the latest one in the connectivity of the MCU. So get on board. Watch it now.
Starting point is 00:05:43 This is what we did last and this is what we're doing next. I didn't necessarily love Dr. Strange multiverse of madness. I'll probably give it a rewatch on the Disney Plus. I wouldn't go out and see it in the theater again. I know that some people love this movie.
Starting point is 00:05:53 I thought it was I. And I wonder how I will feel about it on a, on a rewatch at home. Some people I saw a lot of comments from the spoiler reviews that we did and people said that they'd like it better on the second watch. Maybe. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I don't know. But I will say that I think it is a good move for them releasing it this month, not too far away from where it released. Smart move. I mean, came out, what, a month ago, whatever the hell it was? I don't remember. They said it in that report I just read. And now it's gone.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Right out of my head. But nonetheless, it's coming out. I think it's a good move. We'll say you guys. go ahead and comment tell me what you think all right now that's that and next one percy jackson percy jackson is a very popular book series and i can tell you very popular in the harlough household meaning that my oldest has read it many times she loves it and it's hilarious now because she watched those movies when they came out and she read the books and she she loved everything
Starting point is 00:07:03 And then, you know, now she's 10-year-old girl and she reads stuff on the internet now, and she's like, I don't like the movies. They're not, it's not true enough to the books. Nothing against the actors, she says. She's not wrong from what a lot of people say. The Disney Plus TV series adaptation of Rick Reordens, I don't know how the hell to say that. Percy, I mean, I'm going to, well, I was going to call my daughter, but I realize she doesn't have a cell phone.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Percy Jackson and Olympians novels has officially begun production with Reordin posting the first photo from the set on Instagram. The live action series tells the fantastic story of a 12-year-old modern demigodad Percy Jackson, which is coming to terms with his newfound supernatural powers with the sky god Zeus. Accuses him of stealing his master lightning bolt. Now Percy's got to trek across America
Starting point is 00:07:48 to find it and restore order to Olympus. The cast is Walker Sobel as Percy, Aryan Simhadri as Grover, Leah Saba, Jeffreys, as Annabeth, Virginia Call as Sally Jackson, Glenn Termin as, I don't know who any of these people are, but there's a lot of people in this movie. The first season will take its inspiration from the Lightning Thief novel and will consist of eight episodes.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Again, you guys know how I'm feeling about TV to movies. I know there's a lot of debate now, especially when we'll get into it with Obi-Wan and people are like movies, movies, movies, movies. Sorry, I'm still TV guy over it. And I see all the discourse and nonsense about, you know, how it's becoming another Last Jedi thing. I think, I mean, it's so funny. I'm in such a different headspace these days than I was back in the day. It's like, back of the day, I felt like, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:42 if you threw a piece of meat and you watch two Rottweilers just fight over it and, you know, wait a minute, you got to break them up. Because, wait, so it's such an angry, angry Wattweiler over there, angry Rottweiler over there. All they're fighting, they're fighting, they're fighting. Let me try to break it up. Let me try to help. Now it's just let them fight if you cares.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It's too exhausting. It's so exhausting. It's so stupid. It's movies and TV. You don't like it. You don't like it. I mean, it's so stupid.
Starting point is 00:09:15 It really is. People getting that. I mean, when you see everything that's going on in the world, I hear Sebastian's voice, Sebastian Manuscalco, you're turning on the nose. You're getting upset.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Vader's lines and whether or not they're going to line up to episode four go outside and job it's like so silly it's so silly um I can understand being upset about it like you know being like saying hey wait a minute wait a minute hold on and questioning it that you're right being angry about it and like it's it's hilarious It's hilarious. Anyway. Go ahead. Go nuts.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Anyway, what the hell was I talking about? TV and Percy Jackson. I think novels to me, novels and video games, the only way you should go is TV and streaming because they're both, there's just too much that you cut out. I think about just a long movie. Think about Zach Snyder's Justice League.
Starting point is 00:10:32 that movie is significantly better as a four-hour film i mean hell um batman v superman his cut is a significantly better film it's a long movie both of them are long movies but better because they're long if you cut those when you cut those movies down you lose a piece of what they really are no doubt now you have to do that for not for novels you have to even in harry pot which I like, like all those movies. There's a lot out of Harry Potter that is missed from the novels because it is half to. You can't make them, you can't make a movie that long. Otherwise, you're going to have a four or five hour movie and just can't do it.
Starting point is 00:11:16 TV shows allows you to stretch it out when you have eight, it basically making an eight hour movie. So it's funny because I was never a massive TV person, but I know that, especially if you listen to my show, you know, yeah, we get it. You like TV better, builds out the characters. Shut up and do your Arnold impression. person and get it you're not wrong you first of all you do that you want to do you put the movie out there you put the tv show with the with with with more of uh i don't read too much but when
Starting point is 00:11:47 do i figured what would that be like who knows i don't care um yeah all right so percy jackson coming to disney plus they're moving they're shaking they're grooving What's next? I want to get to all your questions, so I want to see what else. Is there anything? I mean, there's a fatal attraction series? Holy shit. What hell is that?
Starting point is 00:12:15 So there's a TV series adaptation of fatal attraction for Paramount Plus. I'm not going to shit on this because Paramount Plus is pretty awesome. You guys are sleeping on the offer. Again, respect to people who reviewed it. Stupid takes. I guess that's not respect, but stupid takes. I told Ellis, if I can get on Rotten Tomatoes, it was wrong show.
Starting point is 00:12:47 We have to do that one. Everybody that I talk to that's not a critic, loves that show. I don't know what the hell these critics are watching. So Amanda Pete is going to join it. Project is a deep dive reimagining of the film that will explore, fatal attraction, the themes of marriage and fidelity through the lens of a modern attitude.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Pete is going to be the wife, played by Anne Archer back in the day, and joins co-stars Joshua Jackson and Lizzie Kaplan in the role of the flannering husband and the obsessive woman he has an affair with. Interesting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So I'm on board, man. I like that Lizzie Kaplan. So she, to see her in that type of role. that's a good uh it's a good cast um all right hey if it works it works we'll see what's the other one no this is the oh george millers there's furiosa how was it george miller's got to be like 92 years old good for him all right let's see this is the where is everything that i have i don't know what's happening where's my stories there it is okay george miller feriosa
Starting point is 00:14:03 It just started filming. Chris Hemsworth, I guess he's in it. He's confirmed in the social media posting that filming has well and truly begun on the George Miller directed Mad Max Fury Road prequel Furiosa. The Thor star revealed a photo of a slate from the set of the movie, which has begun its shoot in the Australian Outback
Starting point is 00:14:22 in the Broken Hill in South Wales. The actor, alongside, this is a good cast. Anna Taylor Joy and Miller all arrived in the area in mid-May ahead of the shoot, but Miller subsequently jetted out to Tenkan for the premiere of his most recent film 3,000 years of longing. Tom Burke and Yaya Abdul Mateen 2,
Starting point is 00:14:42 co-star in Furiosa. I just saw him in that ambulance. I don't like that ambulance, which is said to be a span of a 15-time period and has Taylor Joy playing a younger version. Oh, I thought that Charlie Stern was actually Furiosa. Look at me. See, I don't know what's going on at all. One key change with the new film is
Starting point is 00:14:59 cinematographer Simon Duggan. um is taking over for john seal interesting i thought john seal did an amazing job and i thought simon dougan both great gaspian and hacksaw ridge beautifully filmed but there was something about that mad max and that last one pretty damn good huh huh about that next um i'm on board for the furious that george miller's directing it i'm on board for it i like that the last one the fury road it was 2015 i think it was it was like seven years now i mean Let's say, I'm going to guess. You guys probably know, but I'm going to guess.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I'm going to say George Miller is 91. Hey, Siri, how old is George Miller? George Miller is 77 years old. Not even close. Not even close. It's aged the guy by 14 years. Good job, jerk off. 77 to 91.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Who else? Who the hell's 91? Somebody's 91. I mean, James Earl Jones. You still doing stuff? John Williams cracking tunes smashing it up
Starting point is 00:16:13 he's doing it so George Miller he's even younger than I thought he was so never mind still 77 to be directing I get tired directing scenes Shmowdown I get tired watching long movies
Starting point is 00:16:28 much less directing them but I'm glad they're doing that movie it's a good cast and I like to see there's a little more raw those movies you know to see Hems worth in something a little more raw.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You obviously, you know, you know he can do comedy in those things, but let's see him get a little bit more, I've seen him do something like that in a while. Oh, uh, all right, here's the other thing. Someone to ask is going to ask me about this in the, uh, in the questions. So I'll get to it now and probably have to skip over it once you ask. So apologies. Apologies. What the hell's going on with Creed 3?
Starting point is 00:17:10 what the hell's going on? Frank Stallone was doing a, it wasn't even doing an interview, it was Instagram posts. I couldn't even find it afterwards. I think someone's screenshot it. That's where I read it, but, it was like seven, eight days ago.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And Frank Stallone just blasted Michael B. Jordan. Insinuated that Stalin was kind of driven from, from the movie against his own, will. He said that this kid's trying to kind of take over the franchise. There is no Rocky without Stallone. And then I went back to watch an interview that Michael B. Jordan gave and essentially said the reason why Stallone isn't in it because it was a Creed movie and they want
Starting point is 00:17:57 and they want to move forward with the story. I'm on two different sides of this thing. The first is I understand that. I understand that they wanted Donis Creed and they basically said, that and wanted Don is created to people to, um, to attach to him and, and not just have to rely on Rocky. I get that. And I understand them wanting to do that because, um, you know, that's part of it.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And Stallone is certainly in his franchise moved and shuffled characters in and out and things that he's wanted to do. However, it is Stallone's franchise. Either, either, either way. even though, I mean, because Creed, you attach to Adonis Creed. And Michael B. Jordan, I thought that a great job as Adon. I love the movies. I love one and two.
Starting point is 00:18:50 And I love him. I think he's great. And you get a great job in establishing the character and who the character was. But you attached to this character because of the relationship that Rocky Balboa had with Apollo Creed. And everything you knew about Apollo Creed through Rocky Balboa. That was part one. You attached to part two. because of the history of Rocky Balboa and Ivan Draga.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Now, if Stallone didn't want to come back and didn't want to come back and said, I'm not, you know, I'm good. And they're like, okay, well, we're just going to move on without you and we're just going to do it. And then hopefully they get attached to Donis and we'll tell the story without you. If he was completely written out of the movie and not asked to come back at all and just kind of pushed out of it, I don't know. I'm not a fan of that. I mean, even if it's like a scene where, you know, he goes and has a couple conversations with him and he's off, you know, with his son or doing him, you do one scene.
Starting point is 00:19:52 If that's the real case, the only reason that people are buying merit into this, putting merit into it is because apparently Stallone liked his brother's post. So, nothing really else has been said about that. And I don't know. That's, uh, that's something. I try to get Frank Stallone on this. show, find out what the hell's going on. Because, uh, I don't know, man. I don't, uh, I don't love that.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Still excited for the movie. Still, I still want to see the movie, but you can't. And, and again, this is speculation. But if Stallone wants to come back, you put Rocky in the movie. It was still creed. It was still Adonis's movie, both one and two. One maybe had a little bit more Balboa with the attend. And maybe that's,
Starting point is 00:20:41 That's where as an actor and ego gets in, you know, more people were talking about Stallone. He was nominated for the role and it was, and two, was very attached to the Rocky story and maybe he just wanted to completely move forward from it. But to push him out, if that happened, kind of shitty, just saying. But I don't know if that happened. No one said that it has except Frank Stallone. and it's far from over. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:23:59 You should do that. Go the link in the description. And that's what you got. We're going to get some questions. And there's a lot. I posted this on my Facebook page, and I posted it on the YouTube community. And I got a lot of responses. I'm going to start with Russell Weithamon.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I hope I said that right. Russell says apparently James Earl Jones voice in Canobe was done through the respeacher program as it says so in the end credits. Thoughts? It worked, man. That's my thoughts. It worked. I, it's funny because I think that Luke sounds too mechanic when they do it with him. There's no really emotion to it.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I think Vader sounds perfect. I think he sounds perfect. I think he sounds like Vader episode four or Vader episode five, Vader. And I was like the second, that was exactly what I was looking for or paying attention to when the second they show him in that scene when he's talking to Riva. And I go, all right, here we go. I love James Earl Jones. significantly older voice in Rogue 1 and Rebels. So it pops up and I'm like, that sounds like
Starting point is 00:25:11 Vader, the Vader I was first introduced to. So if they're able to do that through the program, do it all day long. I think it sounds fantastic. And James Earl Jones gets a check for it, you know, sign me up if I'm him. I love that. I absolutely loved that. I thought it sounded great.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I thought it sounded absolutely great. Okay, next question. Timothy Williams, which wrestler from the 80s do you think could have made the leap to mega movie star similar to what the Rock has done? That's a tough one because you've got to look at the times, right? When they, like Roddy Piper was a guy that I think I wish he would have been done more stuff back then in different roles. Roddy just had such a gift of Gab and just had that personality. Jake the Snake could have probably done, you know, if he was, if he was, back then he was kind of in a messed up state, but, you know, done some kind of dramas and things of that nature. I would have liked to see him.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I'm trying to think some of the great performers at that time, when Hogan was a terrible actor, but had that chemistry, obviously, or that charisma. Randy Savage, you know, he's just, we're a little hard going around talking like this all the time,
Starting point is 00:26:39 brother, and being a leading man. Um, I don't know back then. I think that all the ones that really popped in the 80s and I remember Brett Hart, no,
Starting point is 00:26:52 I was a real, I mean, he was never really, I'd have to, yeah, I gotta probably say Roddy. Roddy's, Ronnie probably couldn't,
Starting point is 00:26:59 Jake the Snobreardt. probably could have done some more things. Mega movie star, though, I think the guys that popped inside of that popped. You know? I don't think there were a lot of people that were held back. As far as acting goes, that could have acted. And any of the ones who really act kind of may and try to do it anyway.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Like Stone Cold's not like a great actor, but he still got his shot because of Stone Cold. He's fine. They're terrible. But yeah, I don't think he's not. anybody else really, I don't know, maybe this is some of the people I'm not even thinking about. Who knows? Bruno San Martino.
Starting point is 00:27:38 All right. Christopher Lay. The future of Star Wars movies. The Disney Plus shows are doing well, but when is Star Wars coming back to the big screen? And when does it come back to theaters? What will it look like, High Republic, Episode 10, the Mandalorian on the big screen. What it looks like, and there's a report today, Chris, it seems like they're adamant to try to get this Taika-Watini movie.
Starting point is 00:28:03 be out by next year. Now, if that is the case, and they're really standing strong to this, they're saying that they're going to get this thing out by 2023. That is a year and a half from now. There's two sides to look at here. A, they're already well in production of this thing. They're keeping it under the wraps. They know who's in it. They're ready to go. They're going to start shooting soon. and that's why they're, that's why they're, you know, talking about it so much. B, they're full of shit and they're moving it. Both options, very, very possible. There's just no chance.
Starting point is 00:28:48 There's no chance for them to, if there's no script written, if there is a script, just a treatment, there's no casting, and they're going to say, okay, we got to do all that, start shooting by the end of the year, and then get it out there by December. That is pressure, and that is unlikely. So like I said, they're already, they already know what this thing is. They're keeping it super under wraps or it's not coming out in 2023. I can't imagine it's coming out in 20203, unless, you know, unless it's a really good secret.
Starting point is 00:29:29 that nobody's leaked it, though? I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm very curious to hear what you guys think about that. I just can't. Do you guys think that that's going to happen? That's what I want to see the comments. And I'll even ask that the question.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Do you guys think that that's going to happen? I can't even imagine that. Shocked. Okay. Next one. I do want to get to this. I don't know how far down it is, but we'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Joseph Kaczynski was recently talking about how he almost made Tron 3 before Disney canceled it. Top Gun Maverick proved that Kaczynski has become a long way since he made Tron legacy, so would you like to see a third Tron film? All right, this is a tricky one. I didn't see the firefighter movie that he did. So I can't speak on whether or not that's the best movie, but out of Oblivion and Tron, to me this is his best film, Top Gun Maverick, that is. So I was I didn't dislike Tron. I just, it's just kind of boring.
Starting point is 00:30:31 But it, it's something that I was curious to see a second one for, or third, I guess. That's when he says Tron 3. You forget that it's a sequel. It's weird, though. I want to see him do something outside of working with Tom Cruise. I know he's got that movie coming out, I guess, on Netflix. Is it Hemsworth? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I want to see Or is Miles Teller? It might be Miles Teller. I want to see how that movie is without Tom Cruise involves because I want to know how much, like what the percentage was of what, who got what done on that movie. Now, I'm not taking anything away from Christency at all.
Starting point is 00:31:20 It might have been absolutely, a lot of his choices, which is very, very possible. He's got a very good relationship with Tom Cruise, and I just want to see outside of it. So because the script in, uh, in, Tron, like I said, was pretty, pretty dull. And I didn't, and I thought oblivion was a bore as well. So I'd be interested in it, but, and, and again,
Starting point is 00:31:46 I want to give him the benefit of the doubt because I thought that this was, this is one of my favorite movies in a very long time. So yeah, I'm, I'm curious to see what you. he doesn't, and especially if the Netflix thing is good. I'd be up for it, for sure. Okay. Next one, moving on. Moving right along.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Tom Lewis, speaking of Top Gun Maverick, he says, can Patty Jenkins make a rogue squadron as great as Top Gun Maverick? That is an unfair question, Tom. For a lot of different reasons. So do I think, I'll answer it with a, with a, with a, hopefully with a fair answer.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Do I think that she can make a Star Wars top gun movie, or excuse me, Rogue Squadron movie as good as Top Gun Maverick? No, I don't. That is nothing to do with Patty Jenkins whatsoever. If you ask me a lot of different directors, I'd probably say, no, they can't. Why?
Starting point is 00:32:42 Well, I think there's too many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to Star Wars, especially in movies. I think that when it came to Top Gun Maverick, I really think that it came down to both director and Tom Cruise. Obviously there are other people that had things to say, but from the most part I think that's who's making those decisions.
Starting point is 00:33:06 There's a lot of cooks in the kitchen. There's a lot of panic when it comes to Star Wars movies because they need something to hit. And now the directive might be, we've got to make Top Gun. We've got to the same type of thing. There's also a, And it's a lot of pressure for anybody.
Starting point is 00:33:23 It doesn't matter who the director is. There's also the reason why Top Gun, one of the reasons Top Gun was so special was, A, it, even though there were some special effects, obviously, it relied on practical, and it looked, it looked like everything was real. And they didn't over CGI it. They didn't overcook it with,
Starting point is 00:33:49 with big scenes and big action scenes. They were there, but it was the lead-up and everything that built to it. And I don't think Star Wars feels that they can do that in the movies, because I feel like they feel like everyone's paying for the big spectacle, and they've got to make it a spectacle. So that's part of it. The other thing is the emotional connection that was there with Top Gun Maverick, depending on what the story is, and we don't know,
Starting point is 00:34:17 I think that it's supposed to tie more towards the new. trilogy? I don't know who, who, who, which characters it would be that we would be emotionally attached to anything like, Maverick, we had kind of followed his journey and even if you didn't know it, they set it up well enough that you were on his emotional journey with him. So I just don't think that they, that they would be able, now could they make a great movie inside of this? Yeah, of course they could. They can make a great one. Do they think they'll make it as good as Top Gun Maverick? No, that's going to be a hard movie to beat. And that's not just Star Wars. That's, that's regular movies in general, uh, at least for me.
Starting point is 00:34:49 is very, I haven't had an experience like that going to the movies in a very long time, especially one that I wanted to go back and watch the next day. So, yeah, I don't think so. And I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong. I love for a lot of movies to be just as good as Topkin Maverick, because that means let's keep going to the movies. Julian Ramos.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Did you watch the George Carlin documentary on HBO Max? I love to hear your thoughts. I am about an hour into part two. I watched part one. George Carlin for those people an hour, maybe, whatever. They just got to, so I discovered George Carlin when I was very young. My buddy who I've mentioned on this show, Brian Cashie, who passed away during 9-11, he introduced me to George Carlin, and it was George Carlin at Carnegie.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And I was, I couldn't believe it because I never heard anybody talk like that, you know, with the curses, but it was also extremely funny with the faces and everything too. and I was, it was where I first fell in love with stand-up comedy and continues to watch all of his specials and everything until I was doing stand-up and I had the ticket on the wall over there where I went and saw him. It was not too long before he passed away, but I got to see him perform live. And he was my, to me, he was, he's the champion of, I did a video on, on this channel, who I thought were the top five stand-up comedians of all time. And I have him at now. number one with Richard Pryor and number two.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I think that Carlin was just incredible. And I knew a lot. I knew, I mean, obviously I've studied him for many years. But there were a lot of things that I didn't know. And watching some of the stuff and watching the things that he went through. And I was very aware of the fact that when he, how he started as the hippie-dippy weatherman and all that and how he changed. I didn't know a lot about his dad, which I found,
Starting point is 00:36:46 and his brother. and what happened with them. And, you know, really, it's a great, it's a really great documentary. It really is. And if you haven't watched it and you didn't know, if you don't know a lot about George, you should watch it to learn more about George. If you, if you knew a lot about it, we want to learn more like me. You should check it out.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I'm definitely going to finish it. I think it's fantastic. And I think anybody who loves stand-up comedy, anybody who does stand-up comedy at all, And I have some great interviews from a lot of different people inside of it. That it's yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty fantastic. And I'm looking forward to finishing it because I just, yeah, they're only like, him and him and Robin Williams are the two stand-up comedians that for me, I kind of, there was, I watched them very differently than I watched other stand-up comedians.
Starting point is 00:37:43 and I related and that there was just ways that, I don't know, there's something about their personalities, their style that I tried to, you know, the same way that when Carlin was watching Lenny Bruce and these other things, Danny Kaye and things like,
Starting point is 00:38:00 as he was watching that type of stuff, I was watching those guys. And that's the type of stuff that, you know, if you've ever seen, if you've been in New York, when I was doing my things, I have bits that are certainly influenced by both of those guys.
Starting point is 00:38:13 guys that um that yeah just and and to watch what he did where he came from his love of language the ups and downs of his career and the relationship with his wife and i remember when his wife passed how that really just kind of how long they've been together and the things that they went through so it's it's fascinating it really is and i i absolutely love it i absolutely love it all right next one chris g with a show like the offer that shows them making of the godfather what other movie would you make a compelling show about about the making of i'm i got to just jump to a star wars one just real quick and i have to say the force awakens they would never do it but i'm so curious to see like what really happened there in the force awakens
Starting point is 00:39:00 very curious inside of that one uh another one that i don't know they did they did citizen cane right they did a few others i mean there's a there's a lot of movies nothing to come to mind but there's tons that I'd love to see the making of and be, it's just, it's all about, it's about the story. It's about the story because that's what makes the offer so interesting is that it's the idea of the story in general, where Paramount was at the time, the fact that all these different, like the story that they didn't want Pacino, the idea that they were going to fire Coppola off the movie so many times, the fact that the real mob got involved. I mean, there's just so much inside of that story that to me is absolutely fascinating. I'm working on getting Dan Fogler on this show
Starting point is 00:39:48 to talk about he plays he plays Coppola, Young Coppola. So I want to just do a full episode, just talking to him about that show. Anyway, all right, next one. Next one, next one, next one. I got to get, I want to get to the main topic, obviously. Are you getting, are you watching the boys season three tonight? Have you watched first season? No, I'm first of all, I'm not watching season three because I haven't watched any. My point, my goal was to watch the first two, but I just got caught up in so much stuff. It is on my list, Kenny. I'm going to get to it eventually. Mustang Red 1967. I used stoked for Indy-5. Next June, but still, yeah, I'm really stoked. I have this ongoing thing with Kalanowski. He was like, I don't know. They should just end it after Crystal Skull. Crystal Skull was
Starting point is 00:40:31 George Lucas and Spielberg trying to do a movie in a different type. I love them. They're the best, but they were trying to do a different type of movie in a different time. Even in 2007 or whenever it came out, like when it was it 2008, I don't remember. But when they put that movie out and they tried to make it in this kind of cheesy campy thing and Harrison Ford was not engaged,
Starting point is 00:40:53 Mangold's doing this movie, man. Have you seen, I can't believe the amount of people that are like, ah, let it go. Have you not seen what Mangold? I believe that you have to look at people's work over the last couple of years and say, okay, well, they're coming off of that and they're coming off of that, and they want to tackle that, well, give them a benefit of the doubt. I can't understand how many people are like, ah, it's over.
Starting point is 00:41:17 After Crystal Skull, no, you can't do anything with it ever again. He's still old. If it was Spielberg, and I tell you know it's blasphemous to say, but if it was Spielberg and Lucas doing this right now, I would be more weary. Now, West Side Story. I think was one of Spielberg's best movies in a long time. The Post, great movie. It's some of the stuff I feel is a little, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:41:46 the way he makes the big blockbusters seems a little dated. I know, it's blasphemous. I'm sorry. But Mango right now, Mangold's on fire. And I want to see what he does and what he gets out of Harrison Ford. So, yeah, I'm actually very excited for Indy 5, like really excited for it. I think that I think mango's going to bring some some heat. So yeah, that's one of my most anticipated for June.
Starting point is 00:42:10 When I do my list, it's going to be high up there, no doubt. I'm very excited for that one. We did that one. Where is it? Oh, so someone actually, questions not coming up, but someone asked about our rewatch series about if we're going to do Toy Story. The answer is yes. Toy Story actually comes out.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Our first rewatch is tomorrow. tomorrow at 9 a.m. with me, Winston, and Coy. So look out for that. This question. Steven Somers, pineapple on pizza, yes or no? Clearly you haven't been following me that long. Might as well take a shit on my pizza.
Starting point is 00:42:44 No, no pineapple on pizza. Ben Raynor, how would you end up ranking the Star Wars shows so far? For me, I have Obi-Wan on top in the last episode is my favorite. See, Obi-Wan is only three episodes in, so I'm not going to be able to rank it that high, I have the first episode I liked really, I really liked the first one. Second one was okay with a great ending with the, you know, Vader in the tank.
Starting point is 00:43:09 And then the third episode I thought was fantastic. But it could end poorly or could end wonderfully. But where we are right now, I would go, Mandalorian Season 2, Mandalorian Season 1, Obi-Wan, and then Boba-Fet. that's unless you yeah and then and then bad batch but unless we're doing all of the show all the animated well then I have to change that up a little bit if we're doing all the animated
Starting point is 00:43:39 then if we're including everything on as far as Star Wars television goes I would say the first would be once again Mando season two Mando season one Rebels shoot all the seasons I don't know if I could rank all the season. I don't remember them all in it, but let's just, let's just put them all together. Rebels. Obi-Wan. Well, Clone Wars, Obi-Wan. And again, I think Obi-Wan could probably leap over it. Boba-Fet and then Bad Batch and then the other one. What was the other one called?
Starting point is 00:44:18 Resistance, or I don't remember what it was called. I didn't watch too much. So that's, that's it. That's where I go with those. All right. Next one. I if it's not the one that I if it's not this one that I it's not I'll get back to it I I got to cover this because it's on the damn thumbnail um oh shay jackson Jr he's going to be in obi one canobi we know this it's been announced so again I mean at this point I think that I've given spoilers already people know what's happening in obi want so there's going to be a spoiler again um this guy Quinlan Boss
Starting point is 00:44:58 He was a Jedi that appeared first in the Phantom Menace in like a excuse, it's an extra, and then they, you know, like they do in all Star Wars, they make everybody canon and give him a backstory, and they started giving him one, and he became a regular in Clone Wars.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And then he was also the subject of, it was called Dark Disciple. And Dark Disciple was one of my... It's a very underrated novel, by the way. It's a very underrated novel. And it's both Quinlan Boss and Assange Ventris. There it is. And it's Christy Golden as the author.
Starting point is 00:45:45 And I was another one that I really, really enjoyed. There's a lot of stuff inside of that that Quinlan Boss actually goes to the dark side and he comes back to it. He studies under Duku at one point, but he's able to get himself back. And so really it's a very underrated novel. Not a lot of people talk about it,
Starting point is 00:46:04 but it's a canon novel, and it potentially plays into whatever the hell happened to. Because Obi-1 was the one who, after, I think it's the end of the novel, Obi-Wan and Anakin, like pretty much fight for Voss to be able to stay the Jedi, stay, you know, after the stuff that he did, and they accept him.
Starting point is 00:46:23 and Voss is like, I can't really ever repay you for that, but I'm going to try. And so maybe that's where it plays into it. And they mentioned that Quillen Voss is alive. They say, you know, Quillen was here. Yeah, he comes in, he helps out. So there's a lot of different rumors flying around.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Now, O'Shea Jackson's a pretty big dude. Now, some people think that he might have been in the droid suit. And that's why he grabbed the club and was going to bash the stormtrooper over the head with it. Possible. That's part one. And still is possible that he could be inside of that suit. The question is, why? Unless he's someone hiding out in that suit.
Starting point is 00:47:16 You could also see how maybe. Quillan Voss is hiding out in that, and it is O'Shea Jackson. The only thing is that O'Shea Jackson's like 30 years old. Quinlan Voss, I think, would be in his 40s at this point. It's not that big of a big deal. I could retcon that a little bit. So I don't know. It's funny because I didn't.
Starting point is 00:47:46 So Ryan Nielsen, who was on S.E.N. for a while, he texted me, and he's like, hey, my theory is I think that Oshy Jackson is going to play Quillen Voss. And I said, I don't know. I don't even think they're going to show Quillan Voss in this series. I just don't think there's enough time to do it. But maybe he gets help. Maybe that's who Obie Wong gets help from in the next couple episodes, which is very possible.
Starting point is 00:48:09 People are starting to rumor it around. I don't know. But look at, listen, that's Voss. There's O'Shea Jackson. I mean, yeah, you could throw, you could throw, that hair on them and put, you know, the yellow tattoo. I could see it for sure. Yeah, I could see it.
Starting point is 00:48:34 I don't know if they're going to do it. I don't know. I think that Quinlan Voss could also show up in other series or in other places. So whether or not he's going to or should he, I'm not really, the age thing is not that big of a deal. You could always change that up a little bit too. and I just thought that Quillenland Voss was, I mean, it's been 10 years since that happened. Quinlan Voss wasn't 20 years old when he was running around
Starting point is 00:49:00 with the Hodge Ventris storyline. But like I said, they could also say that he's 35, 36. You know, he could play it. And they might not even mention his freaking AIDS. So what the hell do I know? So, all right, here's the other question. Zayad Jamal is today, Marks exactly 20 years since the Wire premiere.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Where does it rank among your top shows of all time? What would your top 10 shows be ever? Oh man, that's a harder list to do, the top 10 shows. I'll just give you in no particular order, ones that will definitely be in my list. Breaking Bad, Sopranos, the Wire, for sure. I don't think. I know it's recency bias, but I would, I mean, I love them.
Starting point is 00:49:52 The Mandalorian, man. I can't miss. The way I look at it is the shows I can't miss. I don't mind, like, the Game of Thrones to me is a show that I was another one that I couldn't really had to watch. I always had to watch. So I put Game of Thrones in there. I mean, there's so many other shows that I'm just not coming to mind as I'm thinking
Starting point is 00:50:12 about it. But the ones that I think of right away are Breaking Bad, the Wire, and the Sopranos. Those are the three that, like, there's no doubt. There's other ones that if you mentioned. when I'm looking at comments, I'm sure that I'll be like, oh, yeah, that one as well. That one as well. All right. Next one.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Okay, hold on. Next one. Where is it? I got some. Okay. And this is perfect. I was waiting for it. But Jermaya Wise, do you think there's a shot at O'Shea Jackson, Jr. could appear in Kenobi as Quint of the boss.
Starting point is 00:50:51 He's cast, yeah. That was, that what I did. just did a whole thing on. We did the one on Frank Stallone already. Sal Cicalli. Do you watch Dwayne Johnson's Young Rock show? It's really entertaining and funny. Love all the wrestlers that are in that show.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Machromand, Andre the Giant, Iron Sheik. It's a really underrated show. You know, I started watching that show with my daughter, and we really liked it. And I don't know what happened. We just fell off it, but I did enjoy it. My buddy Adam Ray is in it. He plays Vince McMahon. He's killing her right now.
Starting point is 00:51:20 He's also in that, he was in that Julia Roberts movie lately. He just did an interview with Miles Tassie. He's doing great right now. I've got to get him on the show too. Anyway, so I do want to check out Young Rock because I hear really great things. So I might dive into Peacock and check that out. I'm going to finish up the offer, which I'm watching, probably watch the new episode tonight. Oh, and someone's going to ask me quick about it.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And I'll answer it this time. I'll wait. I think somebody's asking me soon. No. Justin Square, can you please talk about any behind the scenes details about finally turning Dan Merrill Heel and having him be your Hollywood Hulk Hogan moment for the Schmodeown. I'm shocked that you were able to pull that off and I can't wait to see more of Heel Dan. I love what Reboot has done for the Schmodeon overall. Well, thank you so much, Justin. For people who have been watching Schmodeon and checking out Friday Night Titans, I thank you. If you haven't, please check out Friday Night Titans. It is easily the best the Smodon has ever been. We talk about it. I can't even tell you how many people I've talked about that with. I feel like it is the season that more people should be watching that that aren't and it is easily the best for sure. So you should go and check that out. But your answer to how it was actually just in a lot easier than you would think.
Starting point is 00:52:42 In the past, I would have said to Dan Merle, it's like, hey, you know, how about like a heel moment? It's like, I don't know, man. It's just not for me. I don't know, man. It's just not for me. Many times over. And then when we were talking about danger zone and I wanted to, I thought the guys needed to split up and move along and think that it was working out. And I started thinking about it because the team division started getting thin.
Starting point is 00:53:06 And so I called Dan and I go, well, what if we kept you guys together? But I have an idea for an angle. And we do kind of like a fake out to the audience and a fake out to Kaiser. and it would require you guys being ultra bad guys in order to make this work. And he said, I'll do it. I said, really? Yeah, I'll do it. But with Dan, I say, I only want you to do stuff that you're comfortable with.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And I presented all this stuff. And he, I mean, he took the angle and just really flew with it. And is having, because I think that when Dan came in to the league, it was purely the trivia side of it. And then as it evolved into more storyline, he started to get it more. And he's very humble. And he doesn't really give himself a lot of credit on how good he is. Like when he cuts normal promos, when he cuts things, like he's, he's really good.
Starting point is 00:54:07 And he comes from a place of passion wherever he's coming from. And some of his one-liners are hilarious. Like the thing that he said to Frank Janish about the garbage take, and that was all him. He came up with that. So he's great in this role. He's having a lot of fun. So, yeah, it was a blast to do.
Starting point is 00:54:26 So thank you for the kind of words, my friend. All right. Alexis Garcia, excuse me. Fun question. How are the kids? Well, thank you, Alexis. The kids are doing good. They're, you know, they're ready for summer break.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Thank you. Tess Sagani, cheese slice or pepperoni slice. Cheese slice, always. Saligan. Have you seen the HBO Max martial arts period warrior that was written conceptualized by Bruce Lee. It's amazing. I hear great things about Warrior. Great things. I have not seen it yet. I plan to. That's all I can say about it. It's my birthday. Happy birthday, Ross. It's Top Gun Maverick, the greatest legacy sequel of all time.
Starting point is 00:55:04 It's up there. It is up there. It's another one. We talked about the sequel. Where's the one? I'm sorry. I want to do, we did that one. There's one I want to see. I'm sorry. Where is it? Oh, I can't find it. I'm going to end with this. Stranger Things I am two episodes in Really enjoying season four thus far I hear great things I hear that it really delivers
Starting point is 00:55:27 And so far I can see why I can definitely tell the horror nightmare And Elm Street angle that everyone was talking about And how it It absolutely feels that way But I am digging it And I'm gonna finish watching As soon as I finish that
Starting point is 00:55:42 I do think though I will say Even though and I'm sure most people who have seen stranger things and have seen Obi-W-W-W-W-1, most people, if I was to guess, if you ask the majority of people which one you like better, I think, from what I've seen
Starting point is 00:55:56 so far, people who've watched both, most people are going to say stranger things as far as content goes if I was going to guess, as far as quality goes. Curious how you guys feel about that, but here's where I say that, to me,
Starting point is 00:56:13 Obi-1 is winning even if Stranger Things did well for Netflix, right? Obi-1 is winning the pop culture conversation. Obi-1 is winning overall, and it's not necessary just because it's Star Wars. I think it's because I believe that this binge-watching thing is the thing of the past.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I know there are some people like, don't say that. I love it. I love doing it. It takes that IP out of the, equation and conversation fast. It dropped right during Star Wars celebration. It dropped right when Obi-Wan was. Obi-1 came out early.
Starting point is 00:56:57 And I saw people talking about Stranger Things, but not the way they did in the past when it dominated the conversation because it's all anybody was doing was just watching Stranger Things because there was another other competition and everybody was just watching it for a couple days. I saw my buddy Adam Lavin the other day.
Starting point is 00:57:14 He's like, I'm just so used to the week by week now that I haven't had a chance to catch up, Stranger Things. I haven't either. And I got to get a chance to try to knock out a few of them so I can review it and let you guys know. And that's not taking away from the production quality. I actually think that they're doing a lot of things way better than anything that Obi-W-W-Wan's done. And Disney Plus in general, Disney Plus does these 30-minute, 40-minute episodes, and Stranger Things is doing an hour and 10, hour, 15 minute episodes,
Starting point is 00:57:46 like little mini movies each time with pure quality involved in it. So I think they're doing things better. I just think that Netflix is still too attached to this binging thing. I think that if they did it week by week the way that everybody else does, I think that Stranger Things would be way more in the conversation. It might be doing better. I know that it did very well on the drop, but it starts to get lost in the conversation because Obi-Lon will have six weeks.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Ms. Marvel will have five, six weeks, you know, all of these shows. I mean, the offer. The offer is another one. Like, yeah, I'm bummed that it's not all there and I can't watch more of it, but I look forward to Thursdays now. And if you remember on Clyder Live, I was like, ah, you got to binge, binge it. Give me all the one at all. I've changed my tune.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I think week to week is much better for the show. It's much better for the conversation of the show and it keeps it in the conversation. But that's me. All right. I hope you enjoyed this one. I had a blast with you guys. And it's, again, sorry for the late show, but I'm doing what I'm doing. So here it is. Make sure that you subscribe to the channel, hit that button, like, share, do all of it. Please, please, please do not forget about story blocks. And please do not forget about Apple Podcast, Spotify, and then all the shirts and stuff that we have. Big things. Sith Council, all of it. All right. You guys rule. we'll see you on the next one peace out everybody yeah yeah apologies
Starting point is 00:59:13 apologies

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