The Kristian Harloff Show - Oppenheimer Review! (Non-Spoiler) Is it Nolan's best?!

Episode Date: July 20, 2023

Join the website: http://www.thekristianharloff.com   Christopher Nolan's latest Oppenheimer starts Cillian Murphy, Matt Damon, Emily Blunt, Florence Pugh and many others. In this episode, kristian harloff and Brett Sheridan give a non-Spoiler review of the film that they had an opportunity to see in IMAX. Is it one of Nolan's best films? If so, why? How much of the story did they know going in? Also, news on the latest movies in the box office, more UFO, stuff and vacuums. #Oppenheimer #ChristopherNolan, #IMAX #Movie

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. It's Wednesday. A little bit of a different episode here today. We're not going to do Star Wars Heavy stuff today. And Mike and Stefan. I hear the mics in Comic-Con. I hear the mic's actually, Oxley, Auschwitz, Oxley, Yashkween, might be going to Comic Con also. So it's me and Brett Sheridan here today to do a non-spoiler review of Christopher Nolan's latest Oppenheimer. Do not worry. We're not going to spoil it. Hence, in the title it says non-spoiler. We'll get into that. And we'll talk about a story. much as we can. It'll probably be a shorter episode, but nonetheless, we're excited to get into it, and we'll tell us a few other things, which basically, still the sack strike looming, what's it going to do for Comic-Con in general, what's it going to do for the business overall? Brett and I will discuss that, and I think that's really the juice of the episode, if you will. Now, if you haven't already gone to the website, the Christian Harlowf.com, check out capes and cows,

Issue 1, please go and check that out. We are going to be in San Diego this weekend. Myself, Brett, and obviously Katie Sackoff for her show, the live episode of Blah, blah, blah, blah with Katie Sackoff. And it's got some really great news in the Spotify charts for number 33 and TV and film already in the blah, blah, blah, show. So, all right, let's get into it.

It's myself and Brett Sheridan here today on the show. Let's do it. Welcome back, everybody. The Big Thing On July 19th The Year of Our Lord Let me say that

What up, Brett, how you doing? Well, I just, before we get in the Spoiler review, you've been suspiciously silent about Wes Anderson's Asteroid City Have you? I have reviewed that one yet, have you? I have not. It's very curious that I have not Interview. Curious and Curisier and Curisor. Curious, I have not had a chance to talk.

talk about that movie. Asteroid City. I have not had an opportunity to, and I have not spoken about that animated film that bombed. I have not an opportunity to see the black thing. I have not an opportunity to see Elemental. I have not had that opportunity. I've not had a chance to see it.

Well, perhaps your opinions are a bit skewed. It must mean something. It must mean something that I haven't seen these animated films. And I have not seen a few movies. And I will, letting the elephant out of the not subtle back. No, I have not seen fucking sound of freedom minute, and I will see it. I'm going to see it, but I could, people keep saying, how come you haven't seen it? Hey, hooy, boy.

And the reason why, again, haven't seen Elemental, haven't seen The Blackin, haven't seen this. The way it works is, I don't go to the movies casually anymore. I don't fucking do it. I can't do it. It's hard for you to go to the ones you got to review. It's hard for me to go in general for, like, regular screenings to people. Oh, just go and pay for it. on the weekends I spend time with my family

so I literally when I'm crafting out I send my schedule to my wife and I'm like okay so on Wednesday I have this and I told somebody in the comment section I said well I get invited to these screenings by that they say okay here the here the what is available

to the critics and Barbie and Oppenheimer so I said well you get invited you only see movies that you get invited to isn't that mean that your opinion is skewed what are you talking about it's like every critic's opinion is skewed because you get invited to a screening? Look, I've got invited,

I got invited to things that I don't like. You invite, you get, they invite people who they want to see, review it. It's not, they're not, they're not giving you, you know, like, and you get, you get a, a massage on the way in. Yeah. It's like, no, it's, it's, it's, it's the work. That's a, yeah, because, um,

I know what you do is, is based on what you do is you take, you compile a bunch of movies and you compare them to each other to bring up your opinion on. So you won't just talk about, I keep saying, Oppenheimer, Oppenheimer. It's funny that they actually say that in the movie, yeah. Yeah. You're going to talk about that,

but you're going to compare it to five other films that are totally different genres, right? That's how you review. Oh, no. That's how we're. Oh, that's okay. No, it's okay. Sorry, I always thought that's how that.

But it's funny because people will tell you inside of that, the whole thing, because obviously with sound of freedom, there is a thing that it's in, there's two sides of it. One, it should be talked about because it is the number like two or three movie, and a lot of people are going to see it. And then there are some people who see this. There's clearly people who have like a political agenda. There are people who want you because it's also covering a very important subject matter also.

But there's people who do that stupid fucking political thing. If you don't see it, it means that you are one of the bad people. It's like, no, motherfucker. I had a chance to see it yet because I don't get to the movies often unless I'm getting, okay, well, there's a screening. and that production company didn't send me a fucking thing. I didn't turn it back and say, no, I'm not going to see this movie.

I never got the invite to go see the fucking screening, and I map out my schedule. So I might because I want to shut, I do want to see the movie. Well, you do check out stuff after it comes. Like, things that you didn't get invites to, I know for a fact you watch after the fact, like when it comes out for free.

Yeah, it's on streaming everything to and then I'll check it out and talk about this show. You're avoiding talking about it. Stop saying that unless you watch all my shows because I've talked about this fucking thing for so many different times. You're a restaurant? critic and you don't go pay for food places?

I mean, look, it's not that I don't go out and I'll take my kids. Normally what I do is I'll, I'll, if there's a movie that I want to take my kids to, like I saw Super Mario Brothers for a screening and then my kids wanted to see it, so that one, like I went, and I

went and I went and took my kids to see it. But again, that was like an event to get out of the house and do these things too. So, the answer to the question is, before you write it seven billion fucking times in the thing, if you, Right to the production company. If they send me a fucking screener,

if they send me a screening link or whatever too, I'll definitely check it out. I might get an opportunity to try to figure out when I can get out of the fucking house and go see it in the theater. There's a list of movies that I haven't seen. That one, Elemental, the Blackening, insidious Red Door.

Insidious Red Door, I never got a screening, so it didn't go. Blacking I never got a screening, didn't go. Elemental I did, couldn't make it. So I reviewed Barbie the news. You review this? but you don't see the other freedom?

And it's like I didn't I was Stallone by the way but I didn't but yeah one of others said do you want to

hear this it's not directly to me they send it out to like the all media yeah it's not like

directly when I say I get a screening it doesn't come just to me it comes to to a bunch of reviewers and critics

and goes this is when this is when this screening is RSC if you want to go I never got that for those

other movies if they don't just send it to me that so the person's like Do you think your opinion is skewed because you get invited to screenings? No, it's the fucking job. It's been doing it.

I'm doing it since 2010. You know, people will say, like, I do think, though, I will say, I do think there is some merit to it. Where when critics get invited to, whether it's, to me, celebrities and shit doesn't, doesn't do anything. But when they get invited to, like, Rome, when you get invited to Rome, and when you get invited to these things, do I think that they're telling you, hey, we're inviting? you to Rome. Give us a positive. No, I don't think that they're saying that.

But I also think you're in fucking Rome and you're in Hawaii and you're in these places that you're like, whoa, this is cool. And it might maybe even subconsciously make you go,

oh, this is a really fun experience. I'm having a good time. So I do think that there is a little bit of that inside of it. And I think that there there was a movie, I won't say which one it was, but recently that I did not like

that before you saw it, they were like, oh yeah, here's a ticket for two free cocktails. And it wasn't them going, the thing, Ruby was just going, hopefully you get fucking shit housed

and you get a little buzz going on and that you like them. And it didn't, it didn't work on me. It's not to say, it would have worked, if I would have gone to go to Greece for Mamma Mia 2,

I would have given that a hundred thousand stars. That would have worked on me. But that's my point. That's my point. So I understand when people, when certain people will write comments, do you don't even think you can get skewedled? When it comes to a situation,

like that. I don't think that it's like a matter of them going, hey, we're sending you here. So give it a good review. I think it's a matter of them psychologically going, hey, we're going to send these fuckers to Greece and we're going to this and hopefully they're feeling good. And I think, and they like the movie. You know, they're always the hope that you like the movie. But no, when it comes to just going to a screening, you've got to understand. I don't like leaving my fucking house. It took us last night an hour and like 10 minutes to get to where we're going to see in an IMAX. and we get there

was like Universal Studios the gate guy was a douche a fucking douche and like when I pull up to the thing and he's just like you have the parking pass and I was like no I don't have it

but you know I have the email for the email for the email for the screening and here it is he's like I can't let you in with that I'm like yeah but I know but I got invited to the screening and here's the thing is that cool we're just going

he's like I can't let you in I'm like all right so do you need me to write the rap and he's like yeah I'm like, okay, I write the rep. So I'm right in there. He's like, park over there. I'm like, okay.

And it's because again, and I also said to myself in that moment, I think the guy, he might be having, maybe not having the best day. Oh, yeah. So I'm like, all right, I get it. So I pull over the side, right to the red rep sentence to pass, and I just walk over. I give it to him.

I go, I think, said the lady was awesome. I think it's for being kind, and we take off. So again, you don't want to give these people shit. They've been going through a fucking long day, but the guy was not being cool. So we get to the thing, we get to the IMAX. And like I said, we're able to go to this thing.

It was exciting that we got a chance to see it in IMAX. But it's a drive. And this is your first IMAX movie. Yeah, yeah, I've never. I mean, I've always been, to tell you the truth, my biggest fear was even when I didn't wear glasses, I did not like to be super close to things. So I thought, oh, shit, screens bigger. I usually like to hover around the back row regardless. But it was perfectly fine.

I mean, where we were at, if we would have been any closer, sorry, rocks, the seats you saved us. We're not too close. She liked sitting close. Oh, yeah. That was our first fight as a friend date. She took me to a screening. She's like, I go, I can't sit there. She loves sitting that close.

I don't know how she does it. For me, it's like a tennis match. I can't do it. But we did get there. We sat with our buddy, DJ, Woolridge. And when we got there, it was packed already. You know, so it was this massive screen. It was like, as people are going to ask,

is it real IMAX? This was real IMACs. So why do we know? So here, I'll tell you a couple of different reasons why we know. One of the reasons, well, we'll get into it in a second. But as we were talking to DJ, we're sitting down there, we had some seats. And I was nervous because even the seats that he got were, I felt going to be too close. They weren't, though.

They were pretty great. And just a few more seats back is usually where I like to sit. But what was hilarious was we were talking about this last night. It was a packed theater. And it's a little condensed. And there was sky. who seemed like a nice enough guy, but just unaware of his surroundings.

He gets up and he's talking to, apparently somebody who worked on Tinkerbell or something. So this guy gets up, and he's sitting there, and I was sitting here, it was you, and then DJ, who's not a little guy, he's like six four, right? His knees hit the other road. Yeah, and he's sitting, and the poor, and DJ, who's like the best guy in the world,

just sitting there, and there's like this pocket of four. four people who might as well been sitting on DJ's lap, and they're talking right over DJ and just standing there. 15 minutes, am I exaggerating? No, it was, yeah, probably 15, 20 minutes. It was from the minute we got there until, and on top of that, you went to go get stuff. Yeah.

We stood up 30 times to let people in and out and in and out of that row. I don't know, no other rows were getting this. We were in the row of activity. It was the row. I mean, I don't, but that one, it's like, if you got to go to the bathroom and you get ready. But their ball level to his face, like, he's, he's looking at balls. It's like, if he goes like this, it's like a ball in an ass.

A hundred percent. And he's listening to, and the conversation is just right in his ear. And the movie wasn't starting yet. So it's like, there's a hallway right there. This isn't like one of those open things. You're right on top of this guy. Right on top of. top him. They're just talking for like 15, 20 minutes.

And DJ didn't complain once. No, he didn't complain once. And I was like, come on. Right? Like, what are we doing here? And then finally, as the movie's about to start, they come in and the guy who starts this whole thing, everyone else is moving into the row and DJ's

nice, just getting up, moving. So then finally, the guy who starts the whole committee goes to move and DJ goes like this and the guy stops and he's still talking to somebody else and DJ's like, and I'm standing. I'm fully up at this point.

I'm like, and I'm like, do I sit? Do I? This guy's not even aware. He's got to other people who need to, like, adjust their seats to let, and he's, he's like, oh, you know, yeah. I was, I was thinking about that, and I liked what you did over there. And, oh, you know, if we got a chance to, it's like, motherfucker, this poor guy is, like, folding into the seat.

He's, he's, and I think, you introduced me once, but I got to actually talk to him before. Yeah, yeah. Totally like, this guy, chill. So chill. So, like, and, and, but us now, has been like, these fucking hands were like, it's, it's, but I'm just like, come on. This guy, you know what he did, Brett? He showed no class. No.

Not an ounce of class. Not an ounce of class. It's like, come on. It's like, just be self, be self-aware. Just be, just be aware in that situation. Then the movie starts and the real, and the real, and the real, um, and the real. IMAX begins. And as it's starting,

there's like a little crack because it's real film. It's not digital. And there's like a little crack in the thing. I'm like, oh, oh, is that going to be an issue? And then it goes away. And I'm like, oh, okay, we're good.

It's a little dust done. Yeah, and then the movie shuts off. It's shut off completely. And we're like, uh-oh. And Brett made me laugh so hard. Because this is a big IMAX theater, right? Packed. So they send in the,

Universal rep to come in and she's on the other side of the theater and she walks over the other side of the theater and she goes right you can do the impression hey guys I have family so um we're gonna give you the best parent now so okay thank you what everybody's going what she just doesn't even B lines it out the door her body language was fuck this and she left she wanted nothing to do with doing that again. Can I get your attention? We're giving away $100,000 to anybody that can hear this. And just, she's gone. So we all assume something was going. She comes back again and basically says, like, look,

we want where we, there's a chance that we'll give you the 70 million, I give you the digital footage of it. We don't want to do that. I want to show you this in the way it was intended in the film and IMAX. So bear with us. So sure of shit, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, we were, again, we were also saying we're picturing the poor

projectionist, just like, fuck! Film wrapped around his neck. He can't stop, but it's just it's just, you got people running into it. What's going on, Eddie? What's going on? He's like, fuck up! It's just hitting him in the face, just smoke going everywhere. Nolan is in there just

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Brett and I did our out-of-the-the- theater review already. And you already is close. I mean, by the time this airs, it might be close to Hyundai already. It's crazy. I mean, people really want to see this movie, and it's the battle between Oppenheimer and Barbie, which I still don't think it's a, it's a battle as far as box office goes, and I think that Barbie will win the box office. I think that's a movie. This one, I clearly, if you watch both my out of the theater reactions, this was, this is more my speed. This was, this was one of the best Nolan movies, I think. I really do. I think that it's up there with, I was watching Christy Lemurs out of the theater reaction, Nate, both. So Christy and Alonzo both,

Same channel. Both saw it. Last night, I believe, and totally different pages. I watched Alonzo, as I talked about in the show, is one of my favorite human beings in the world. We have recently been on the opposite sides of every movie that I think we've seen. He loved Barbie. I didn't love it. I loved this movie. He didn't like it. He has, but that's why he's one of the best of what he does. He had such, I understood his points. I didn't agree with him, but I understood where he was coming from with his points in this film. but christie on the other hand called it one of no one's

best since inception inception is still my favorite Nolan movie it's my favorite and Dark Knight his other two I would say I'd probably say Inception Dark Night and then this one that's probably the ones that I would go with Yeah I'm Dark Night this one inception Yeah I dark night yeah but again You said give it another try

But I have I have Shell Shock from Yeah yeah interstellar it's like When I first saw someone who just said that in the comments the other and they were right. They said when I first saw that movie, I wasn't high on it. And I watched it again. I actually would like to revisit that movie even again.

I think it's pretty brilliant when you go and you watch it for a second time. The first time you don't really not know him what to expect. Put subtitles on it. Watch it for a second time and see what you think, how you come out of it. Because I definitely, Ten and I did not see in the Ten and I think is one my least favorite. I didn't.

I remember the big, I mean, that was coming out pre-something that we don't. That was like a big thing about his, first one where he said you have to see this in the theater and he was very adamant about a lot of people seeing this one in the theater right this wasn't you're not getting screeners on no no this one yeah yeah yeah no on discreet screen you know that it's since since the pandemic you're not gonna they don't really send screeners anywhere the tenant for sure like screen i mean screening links rather um screenings

yes obviously like but um but that one got pushed and pushed and pushed right because tenant yeah because it's like and i i didn't realize that about him but he was a big proponent of like, no, my films need to see. It was one of the big fallouts that he had with WonderRow's right left and went to Universal. So yeah, this is, you can tell, it's, first of all, there's so much to talk about that we can talk about in non-spoiler,

and I don't think it'll be a problem at all, because the story, first of all, it's the true story of Robert, is it J. Robert Oppenheimer or Robert J. Arborneum, I always forget, Oppenheimer. Either way, Killing Murphy, who, does a brilliant job at playing him. You see him in his kind of younger life.

But the way that the younger life, mid, older, the whole array of his lifetime and different things going on from him being the father of the bomb, you know, and then kind of what it took to get there in the first place. He didn't realize, actually, that he was the one who brought quantum physics over to America. Did you know that?

No, not at all. This was, and that's when you said, do you know anything about this? And I will not tell you, what I thought because I was... But it wasn't too far off. It was a different time frame I was thinking, but... Not really.

It definitely, like, this was historical that I knew parts of the story, but I'm glad I learned this. And again, we talked about when you go home after a film like this, you look up what really happened. And I was too tired. Yeah, I was tired, too. But I will be going down that rabbit hole because it was one that wanted me to learn more.

And I think that's, you know, that's a testament to a film, too, if they want you to dig deeper. Yeah, and the fact that it was three hours, I was like, Is it going to be, and I do think you're going to see people that are going to come out of this movie and say, this was boring. And if you're not like looking to really lock in to, it is, it's wordy at times. It is, there's stuff that's happening as far as like, I'll say hearings and things of that nature. And then the stuff that happened kind of leading up to the bombing in Japan and the stuff that, the aftermath of that and the other events kind of linked towards that and linked towards. the aftermath and there's just a lot of detail that if you don't I mean what do you expect to see in this like it's it's not this is if to me what they what Nolan does I think masterfully is the use of sound and music and editing because there's a particular scene inside of one of the hearings where it could have just been a kind of wordy boring scene but instead is this music that bum bum bum bum bum bum

and there's a reason behind it. Yeah, oh yeah. And they do that throughout it. And we both mentioned in our out of theater that there's a kind of an Oliver Stone, JFK field. Yeah, when you said that I was like, oh, I was going to say that first.

I thought I'd be the first one to say something intelligent. But no, yeah, I felt that. And again, maybe if you look back on JFK, maybe that one wasn't necessary, you know, I haven't seen in so long, but it was probably slowish. I mean... It is. Look, I love that movie.

It is a lot more kind of... fantasy elements in Oliverstone's brain of some of the things that he made up through. But I do love that movie. But it's the storytelling and the way that he's able to kind of, he pieces back and, Nolan, that is, pieces back and forth the younger Oppenheimer to the, the midlife Oppenheimer, and how it all kind of plays. And then you're like, oh, well, we're in this time period because it's shot like that. Yeah.

And, oh, well, who's that character? Because I said this years we were leaving. I said, a lot of times these movies will be like, oh, well, they have a burn Florgenstein. Yeah. And they're like, who the fuck is Blurne Flurkenchenschline? And then they show you, oh, that's who he was. He was the guy that he met and he talked to the airmen.

It's just a brief shot and they show you. It's perfect for all guys. It is. Or anybody that has, you know, like trouble keeping up with multiple characters. It would be nice like in Game of Thrones if they would do something like that every once in a while where, you know, you could see it, but different. It's different. It's different.

But the benefit that this movie has is because the difference of Game of Thrones or whatever is that every, you've got 50 or whatever, 10 episodes, 10 hours. This is three hours and it's got, this is the way I'm, from the second it opens, I'm telling my story this way. Yeah. And he even pieces together a little, and it's like, it's like this thing that happens where a particular moment happens. You're like, oh, what did he say to that person? Well, don't worry, you'll find out. Yeah, yeah. And what about that?

What does that mean? Don't worry, you'll find out. But just go on the adventure, go on the journey, find out this information. But it's also, it's deep, obviously, from the subject matter and the things that are happening and the amount of chaos and destruction that ultimately happened because of that bombing and how that has an effect on someone's psyche who created. And the reason why, because I said, you know, in the first place, why would you even come up with something like this? And then the race against the Nazis and the things.

Oh, yeah. And the reason why, but here's, because of the time period, how does that work? And then the idea of communism and how that fit into it, it's like, it's fascinating. Like if you're really interested in history and you're interested in the way that this guy, how brilliant he was and how never, there was the idea, there's one particular. I'm going to talk about scientists. And it's like, scientists do not like when you go up against what they're telling you. So you want to piss a scientist off. disagree with what they're telling.

And I want to touch on it before I forget it. What you were saying about the little moments thrown in there, there was this one we talked about afterwards. I was kind of reoccurring. First you heard it just in sound, then you saw it visually, like stuff like that, but you didn't, you kind of started to piece together what you thought it was, and then you go,

oh, shit, it was that, oh, that's amazing, because I remember seeing it a little bit here, a little bit here, a little here. It's a puzzle. And, yeah, the audio throughout it, I mean, I'm not a sound. soundtrack when it's not like songs that are popular songs and stuff, but I'd love to just like listen to this and brood.

Well, everything is a character. Everything is a character. The sound is a character. And to that point, I didn't know this about Tenet that there was audio issues. There was no issue with me hearing what people were saying during this. Did you have any trouble? Well, Nolan typically has that thing. He likes to do sound a particular way that I remember it on.

the first time from like Dark Night Rises. There was a big issue, especially like they showed the IMAX scene. Do you remember the Dark Night Rises in the beginning when Tom Hardy's on the plane and they, yeah, there was a lot of tough stuff with that. When they first released that scene, there was a major complaint by the audience. No one could, no one could hear it. So he had to go back in. He was pissed off about having to fix it.

But like it's his thing that he's always done. There are a couple of times, but it's done purposefully where the sound overpowers, dialogue, but not in a way that it's like, wait, what? It's, it's, it's on purpose. Yeah, it's definitely on purpose. Yeah, and there's, and there's a few different ways. Or the absence of sound is played with a lot, which is wonderful. I mean, like, the one, I just, oh, I'm, non-spoiler, but that, the one you told after,

after we talked, I was like, yeah, it was like, oh, God. This movie needs, there's going to be a lot of Academy Award stuff for this movie, a lot. From sound design, 100%, the score, and I believe it's Hans Zimmer, the, I think, directing, I think lead performance from Killingen Murphy. This is one of his best performances, if not his best performance, of really telling you everything of it. Because Oppenheimer is a very flawed person. From the beginning and the opening act of something that he does

in one of his classrooms, you know, that was like, oh, that's who this guy is from the fact that he was a womanizer, but, you know, had various wives and did these things. but he also, there was, but his conscious kind of, he self, self-proclaimed, he was, I don't know, say, narcissists, but he's definitely arrogant. Yeah, yeah. But he also had definitely had a moral, he had moral dilemmas that you absolutely wouldn't, should. That's an understanding. Right, right.

Come on. Yeah. For what, for what he was declared the father of the atomic bomb and then, like, what happened after that. Yeah, this guy had some demons to struggle with. Of course he did. And that's what makes this interesting, like if it's in terms of like you go,

I hear a lot of, and I've done it myself where I'm like, oh, I don't want to go see a film that I know the story and how it ends and whatever, like, I don't know, Soli or something like that. Oh, you know, he actually landed it, but you know, and it's, I never saw that one, so I'm not comparing it. But what I'm saying is like this, this

really is interesting in an historic way and how accurate we don't know we haven't deep dive yet but it's interesting in killing in murphy and his you see his struggle and and you see oppenheimer openheimer's struggle yeah openhama you know what it is there's a street i think or there's a building in los angeles called openheimer oh is there or i pronounce it i pronounce it wrong forever it's oppenheimer and you know when i did finklestein the other day i just started calling loni oakenhine or finklestein back in the day just because i saw that and And that's where Finkelstein.

I just remembered where that came from. I remember Finkelstein. Finkelstein. But to dive into some of the performances in this movie as well, as we mentioned, Killingham Murphy is next level. Emily Blunt, who plays one of his wives. And really his, I think he's married twice. But his main wife for the majority of his,

I think the mother of his two children, she, again, plays. They went in a different direction. with her than I thought they were going to go with. I didn't know anything about his actual wife, so when they started, like, oh, he had to deal with that particular circumstance, and then they

changed that up a bit. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And how they had her in the role that Florence Pew plays. And I think those, but this movie, what they do with performances, and I just mentioned two, just A-list-level actresses right there.

There are tons of high-quality actors that are in this movie, not for star power, even though there are a lot of big stars in this movie, but what they bring, there are some people in this movie that are in this movie for maybe seven minutes, eight minutes,

but they have an impact. Yeah. And it's like, you know who's really good in this movie also? Who doesn't ever have been, not that I'm not a fan, but I'd never been like a massive fan of like Josh Hartnett. I was like, okay, Josh Hartnett has, is fine, he's good looking dude, he's been in this, Pearl Harbor. Yeah. He's fantastic.

in this movie. Wonderful. It's fantastic. Nolan's just able to do that. He brings to so many different performances and there's other people in this. I don't know if they, I mean, we know Matt Damon is in it,

so Matt Damon obviously really good in the role. There's other people, I guess if you go to IMDB and see who's in it, but I don't want to give away certain. Yeah, because I think there is an element, and I wouldn't say this is a gripe, it's just something that I, because the way it ended up, but like there was a lot of like, you'd see the back of somebody's head,

And there was a lot of, they turn you to go, oh, it's so-and-so. And then you'd go, oh, were they just using that for effect? Maybe, I don't know. But then their performances, then you go like, you barely used blah, blah, blah in this. You know, like, it's what? There is a particular person that I know you're talking about that you're like, just like, we'll just say an award-winning actor. And you're like, what's their role?

And then you're like, oh, I get it. I get it. And still, even the big reveal is this big. Right. It's like, it's so, and it's, and what amazing thing for an actor, too, is just like to have that kind of impact on the story and have to do so little. It's so interesting. It's like, it's, there, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's so little without, but, but still

being so grand. And there's a lot of those moments throughout the entire film. It's just, it's just paste. That's why I saw some people writing, this is boring. I'm like, you're just, you're just not paying attention in my opinion. because this is just a well-paced story. And again, with not only the story itself, the dialogue, the character of it all, but the music and the sound was the thing I really noticed the most because I felt that it could have been significantly boring and slow.

Had it not been for these editorial choices, and I think that that's why it really worked. I was just, I was in awe of this film. Yeah, and like you said, it was the balance. Sometimes the music, you go, oh, the soundtrack was so much better than the, you know, or the performances, but this was a little, like they, you know, they worked so well together. And without the other, I don't think they could have worked that well. It was just, it was amazing, yeah. I do.

People are going to ask, do you recommend seeing it in IMAX. No. I do. If you can see it in I max, you should. And then people, I guess, if, and I didn't get a chance to see it in 70mm, so I can't speak on that and you have to check out the reviews of people who did see it. So I'm confused by that.

I thought... Don't ask me this question. IMAX was 70 millimeter. Don't ask me this question again. We got into a whole bunch of... We pieced out a video of it the other day and some of this is full of misinformation. And what I wanted to write back to that person is you are so right.

I don't know enough about it. I don't know enough about it. Because I assume that that was the 70 millimeter meant big-ass film. And so I'm like... Like, oh, so you have to have some big-ass film. I don't want to talk about it. You guys figure it out and let the projections deal with it. Oh, will you call yourself?

No, I don't. I don't. But either way. But it was on film. We knew that for sure. This was definitely on film, the one that we, the version that we saw, shot in nine-max cameras. I haven't experienced that since I was probably in junior high. Film?

Like just a, oh, it's getting, it's going out. Yeah. I was like, what? I mean, it's funny, though, too, for a three-hour movie. I would see this movie again. But like I said in the beginning of the show, it's hard for me to get to the movie theater if it's on the screen.

And it's hard for me to get, there's no IMAX theater near me. Yeah. It's like, we have to drive like almost an hour to get there. And if you can't, and you've got begs, or bar will go to somebody's house

that has a big screen and a bad and a stereo system. You know, I mean, we... No one just woke up in a dead sleep hearing you say that. But we may not all have those systems at home, but we all know people probably that might have one or, you know.

I'm just, I would like, if I was going to see it again, I would like to see it. I'd just on another big, big screen. Oh, 100%. Once it hits, once it hits streaming, I'm definitely going to watch it again. It is, it's my favorite movie of the year so far.

That and air, those are the two that are both met, of the multiple films I've seen this year. But I mean, but it is, dude, I'm telling you. Yeah, I was, I was very happy that, you know, because I was this close, I was like, oh, so fucking tired of, you know, you know, but I'm like, I've, I've canceled on a few of them.

And this one, I was like, I thought I was, you saw me. I thought I was, I was like this beforehand. On the way there. And I almost really knocked right out because on the way over I was to start listening. I told you, if you guys listened to my episode on Monday, I have been down the rabbit hole and all the UFO stuff. I know you did. You tried to put your hat over your head like I wouldn't notice you fall in asleep.

This guy, I was like, it's interesting, right? I did one of these things. I did one of these things. I was listening to the thing. It's interesting, right? He goes, yeah. Just got back. You know, listening to shit.

Full the wife trick. Well, I didn't have my shades either. It was hurting my eyes. That even made it more of me like, I guess. I was passing out, though, man. I was tired. But yeah, I'm fascinated with a lot of stuff. Riley and I were talking about it today.

I think that we're going to do, like, because these hearings are coming up next week. And so we're going to do a show. Riley and I are going to come. cover these hearings. For people don't know, again, we talked about this on Monday.

There, there, a lot of, Chuck Schumer, Marco Rubio, a bunch of, bipartisan, um,

group is going in and going to go to, having hearings to make UFO files from the last, like 60, 70 years, um, public. That's insane. And now,

whether or not it, they approve it. Yeah. I just think there's, I mean, there's going to be so many people because what happened was there was the, the, the UFO whistle,

Did you hear the UFO whistleblower, which I did not talk about too much with Ellis the other day, was essentially, let me tell you the name to make sure that I get it right. But it was, it's insane what he said. And he's the reason why they're really pushing forward these things. So David Grush. You know, it was more happy. The whistle. What's that? The whistle?

What are you talking about? What's that? Did I miss something? Yeah, the whistleblower. Who had a bigger smile on his face? The whistle. Yeah, it was good. That was good.

That was good. That was good. So, but yeah, they basically what they had said with, what David Grouch. Yeah, what David Grush has says, not only have they found various spacecraft, they have found bodies. And it wasn't just some wacko that said this. Yeah. So they were like, okay, this, this is, enough is enough. What is out there?

And now that this has actually come out. like there's only so much, because when you start doing, there were still people, I was talking to DJ last night about this. And I'm, because I'm, I'm fascinated by it now.

And I saw some people writing in the comment section too. You're still like a kind of taboo thing about it. So like, there's a, I saw it. You're talking about UFO, but you won't cross the stars of freedom?

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, because it doesn't cost me money to go see it and go send me a fucking screening. Yeah. But don't worry, you fucking, I'll see it. But either way, the... It's two different things. I know.

But the fact that all this, I've been talking to DJ about it, and I know there's this taboo thing about it still, and people, because, and this is what they talk about in this stuff. They talk about how, because it's just for years, if you bring it up, you're fucking wackadoo. And then the same thing with some of these pilots, they even said, this guy, Ryan Graves, I think, was one of the pilots who saw stuff.

And he's like, look, there were so many pilots who saw this shit that were just like, I'm not risk. in my fucking career to talk about this shit. Fuck this. And he's like, I'm talking about it. And now finally people are like, no, I'm talking about it. And this dude, I'm talking about it. And more people are talking about it.

And it's like, there's just so many times you can go, well, that person's crazy. There's other people who are going on shows and stuff talking about this shit that ain't writing books and ain't getting paid for it. And so I don't know. I'm very curious to see what these hearings are going to be. It's next week. And then Riley and I will be doing an episode.

People responded to it. and I saw some people saying, hey, look, if you want to, if you cover it weekly, by weekly, I'll be watching because I think there's episodes to be had about like the full, the O'Hare incident that happened. I think there's episodes to be had about the stuff that happened in Arizona, the stuff that happened in Hudson, New York, this stuff. I mean, and that's three or four out of thousands of things. Yeah, I'm not as, you know, into it as you because I think you've gotten into it more,

but I'm definitely, I will check out this documentary, and I'll probably be hooked. You should. You should check it out. And you come and talk about it with us once you do. And then so, and people, and because of it, I got a lot of, my buddy, Attack Peter, who is in all this stuff as well. He and various others of you guys have told me about this other one that I'm going to check

out, moment of contact, which is apparently even more convincing than the thing I watched, which we'll be, we'll be into next, because Riley and I will be talking about all those things. So if you want to get involved, then especially now with the fact that we're so, we had these conversations and I think Greg Alba did a great video the other day about people don't know in our space what you can and can't do with SAG right now. Right. And so, I mean, I've had a few people reach out on our shows and be like, hey, so what are we talking about? Because I don't want to step on his toes. I'm like, we're in the review and we're in the influencer space that we're not getting paid by the studios to cover their shit. So it's not a job.

We can do it. It literally says that. But people are hesitant about it, right? And it's one of the reasons, even when I'm talking with Mark, because Mark didn't really know. Mark's like, just to be sad, I don't know what the fuck we can say and we can't. Is there anything I'm saying, actually, yes. I want to talk to you about this.

And he's like, let's do it. So that was our episode. And it may be turned into this thing that we start covering that a little bit more. I'm cool with it. Audience seems to be interested in it. And then we can do things like this. When we see the movie, we do a little bit more of like kind of non-spoilers. And the more people say that they're not sure about.

about it of course my I'm like well maybe it is even though I've read things and I've been told things well maybe it is you know my my anxious I really want you to watch this thing watch this thing that I'm telling you like it's far because I know that you're talking about sex up yeah watch watch this thing so we can talk a little bit more so we have stuff that we don't we can because when you go into the what you can cannot do we got there was a thing on Hollywood reporter or a variety that basically they've released information that's if you're a critic you're a reviewer you do these things It's like, we can't ask you not how to do that.

There was a weird thing that I saw, and I don't know. I mean, look, like I said, I am in SAG. I support SAG. I think, so is Brett. I think that, you know, there's so much that the studios take advantage of and it needs to stop and to say that and I support the writers and support all that stuff too. The one thing that I did read that I didn't understand in the, it was like there was something that said, if you are non-sag and you go to one of these

comic-con things and you cosplay, that's fine. But if you are sag, maybe don't do it. It's like dressing up. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it's also you're talking to some of the people that if you get photographed in it, there's someone who's recognizable, who's cosplays, and then it looks like they're promoting it.

I get it. It's just, it's so tricky right now. It really is. Oh, yeah. And, you know, everybody is, you know, going to try to be on their best behavior and try to, you know, and I, yeah, it's hard to understand. It's like reading, you know, stereo instructions for you or something like that. No, you're using a new vacuum. Yeah, using a new vacuum. I got to tell this.

I come in the other day and their house vacuum is in the studio. And I'm looking at it. I'm like, what happened? The other one break? And it's sitting right over here behind the couch. Clear as clear as that. Yeah. And I'm like, I thought you didn't find.

I'm like, well, you couldn't find the other vacuum. And you said him and you go, nah. Couldn't figure out how to use it. No, I said I didn't want to figure out of it. Had nothing to do with couldn't. I'm sure that if I took it out and started looking at it, I figured out. I said, I didn't want to even attempt to try to figure out how to use it. I'm not going to look.

If there's new buttons, I know the, I'm like my dad. The complexities are so. I'm like my dad, though. I'm like, I have the thing that I use. And it's like if I use, I know how to this vacuum, I like it. I push a fucking button. And that's it. What comedian was the one that was like, hey, would you take a picture of us?

And they're like, oh, yeah, where's the, he goes, oh, it's on the upper right where it's been from the dawn of the dark affairs. Right, right, right. Yeah, I mean, either way, I just wanted nothing to do with it. It was right there.

I walked into my house, and that was it. That is a Christian meme right there. It's like vacuum sitting here. Right there. I wanted nothing to do with it. At one point I will. I still, I, the roadcaster is another thing that it's like there's a way to like,

I can't put songs. When I do my live streams, I have that Bob Dylan track that David B did. I have to pull it up through iTunes because I won't figure out how to use it on here. It's just like it's stubborn sometimes. Because like I said, I figured out how to use all this shit on my own without you showing me how to do it. And it's just a matter of not wanting to do it. Well, yeah, and that's not something you're, that's something that I'll spend a night doing just for fun. You know, like I don't have time.

I figured out the stream deck. I was at home. I don't even have a stream deck. I was looking up stream deck stuff. It's like. I just don't have time for that. Yeah. And it's the same thing.

So either way, like I said, in the beginning of this episode, I get it. You're passionate about a movie, and I understand. And look, I hear that the movie's good. I do. I hear it's a really good movie, minus any political stuff that's attached and anything to, and I get it. It's not about political, it's about doing the right thing. And I think that the message behind it and what it's actually covering is the right thing.

I'll tell you that, too, but I want to see it before I make any judgments, before I see it, is it a good movie? Is it not a good movie? I'm going to have to check it out. I'll watch it with you. I want to see the movie. I just, it's one of those things. And I also, I've also gotten some people that I've heard like, oh, yeah, if you cover

that movie, what does that say about your policies? I don't even fuck what. It doesn't say anything about it. Well, if you truly want to have a political stance, you have to see both sides. If you just, if you're just reading your side, then you're not really informed. I just want to see it as a movie. Yeah. I just want to watch it.

It's the number two or number three movie. I'm not doing it because. these, I was, I want to see it because it's in, it's in, I want to see insidious. Yeah. I mean, I, when a movie hits in the top three, four charts, like, oh, shit, I'm, I'm, I'm interested in it, but like I said, I've checked. I looked at my email there. I was like, maybe they sent me a fucking screening and I miss it.

I never sent one. But I, which was interesting. I think they'd want to send it to a lot of different people, but I'm sure there's going to be tons. It's, it's, it's, I hate the movies have gotten into this, though. And it's not just this movie. This is, this movie is way more on the political side, obviously, but there is, back even in like 2016,

2017, everything has just become so much more like my team versus your team. And I, and I, it's, yeah, it's just a whole thing. It's exhausting.

But we can all agree on UFOs. I don't think we can. I think we should. It's amazing. Like, I really feel like after you watch like the first, you know, three,

four episodes, and you see how many times people are like, yeah, when you bring this stuff up, people just look at you weird. And I felt that even talking about it so far. Like I felt it like because people like, oh, yeah, UFOs. Like even with you and like Katie, when I was talking to you guys about it, you're like, okay,

but when you really, and it's like this weird thing when you don't know the amount of, like, it's one thing I was saying this the other day. If like three people see it, are they drunk? Yeah. When 50 people all see something and it's kind of pushed to the side and buried. And they're just normal people going to their jobs doing their thing. they see these interviews with these people. And there was this one woman who was just like, look,

I wouldn't have said anything because I didn't want people to think of it's fucking crazy. But I knew a ton of other people saw it. So that's why I'm talking about it. And I think that, you know, it's the spokespeople for these things that are always shown are like, and then I took my up on a ship and they shoved a probe up my ass. And then it's like, it's like back when we were trying to get marijuana legalized. They always showed this guy on the news. Yeah, man.

And it's like, you're not. helping the cause, bro. You're not helping the cause. You're adding to the stereotypes. There are cancer patients that need this. Let's interview them and not, nah, it's the government. Right, right, because they're adding to the stereotype. Show this guy because it'll prove our point. And this has been parodied so much. The person that believes in it has been paraded and mocked for so long that it is hard to come up. But it was that New York Times thing that changed it, man. The New York Times thing started to change it and push us where we are now and pilots like Ryan Graves and people like that

who like saw it, you see this footage and he's like, what the hell is that? I think it was like this, right? I go, and it's like, it's crazy. It's crazy. And like the O'Hare incident is the one that made me go, wow. Wow. So we'll talk about it more, O'Reilly.

But for today's episode, that was it. It's me and Brett Sheridan. I'm very curious of what you guys think. Like I said, if you're able to help out the show and you can get yourself some of those agey ones, do it. The link is not only in the description, I usually pin it as a first comment. It does help the show tremendously. If you ever like, I really like the show, how do I help you guys, don't do superchats?

You don't do that. I'm telling you. get AG1. That helps. They go, wow, a lot of people transfer over. And we're not, we're not these, one of these shows like, I love Theovant. The Yvonne's doing so great and everything. Burke Kreisher. They've got, and my buddy Andrew Santino, they're doing thousands upon thousands upon thousands of views, right? We're going to get there, but we're not there yet. But what we do have is conversion rate. What the hell is conversion rate? It's people going, hey, we want to help this show out. We want to check out these sponsors. This one sounds interesting to me,

so I'm going to get it. And then they keep coming back. That's what helps the show. That's what helps the show grow. That's what helps us do more and more stuff like we've been doing. So please, if you can, please do it. Thank you to Brett Sheridan. Thank you to you guys. We'll see you on the flip side. Peace out.