The Kristian Harloff Show - Our last LOS ANGELES show together! Kristian and Roxy say goodbye!

Episode Date: June 13, 2024

It is the LAST Los Angeles show that Roxy and Kristian will be doing together for a bit. We talk about the past on Collider, Schmoes, interviews and more. It is Roxy's TV picks as she talks Dark Matter on Apple and more. Enjoy!

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I mean, man, I've got the Inside Out, non-spoiler review, which I'll cover a little bit on here today. We have Out of the Theater reactions. I'm going to go to my first, well, I shouldn't say my first screening because I saw Furiosa in New York, but I'm going to a screening of Quiet Place next week, so I'll do my, I guess I'll do my first solo out of the theater reaction from New York next week.

And we have a lot of other things, man. I've been doing Ackleight. I'm going to start. doing House of the Dragon watchalongs or reactions rather. The Boys is coming out. There's so much stuff that's coming out. So make sure you're part of the channel. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found.

Brett will be back on the show with Roxy. And I think they're going to be doing, I guess I'll figure that out today on this show. I think they're going to be doing a show together at Roxy's Place as right now goes. How long? Who knows? But we'll figure it out. That is the deal. So let's get to it.

It's me and rocks. Here we go. I wish I knew. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the show. It's me and rocks. This is our wide shot that I'm going to have to make a little bit closer. Here we go, Rox. Perfect.

How you doing? Damn. Doing that good, huh? Damn. Well, okay. It's like Ron Simmons. I have logistics questions for you, which is always the most fun to start with. Yeah.

So are you taping with Coy and Winston tomorrow? Yes. Is that your last show you're filming in here? Yes. I'm going to say something so bitchy. So before you do, you're going to say that you should be the last show. I have to tell you I do think so. And I'll tell you that I struggled with it that I was going to,

and I'm still not 100%, that this show will not air on Friday. But I would have to make Capes live like I did Lasters. I just don't know if I have the time for it. It's just like, okay, tell me if I'm right or wrong. You have to be honest. So far you're right because I felt the same way. Like your, when I think of your time in L.A. as specifically hosting, I think of your still, the two to your one, the one to your two, whatever way is Ellis.

Like even though you guys didn't do this iteration of this show, obviously he always pops in. But then honestly, I think I put me after him. before Brett. Well, I mean, that's, should, should you want to do a poll? Here's why. Not for your life. Yeah, for hosting. Yes.

Okay. Because, like, he does a lot of tech stuff for you and he does a lot of building out of things and he does a lot of like one-liners. Yeah, right. But I feel like you're- You don't think bracket full of full conversation for two hours back and forth? I do if you're joking. I do.

But he wasn't. Like when I have now been with you through so many iterations, starting at the afterbuzz place. Through thick and thin, they say. Truly, but starting there. And he wasn't there for that period of time. He wasn't there in 2014. No, it's so funny because I always talk about the regret that I have twice with him. Right.

In 2007, this was the, this one still, we still talk about it because it was, it's just, you know when you're hanging out with someone, you automatically think, like, oh, yeah, that person needs to be in this. Brett was right when he was starting his family. Right? When I did my pilot of grasping the straws with Eliza, Schlesinger, Ellis, myself, a bunch of other people. Ethan Irwin helped me co-write it and everything too. I didn't know that. Yeah. And Navid produced it.

We did a whole bunch of stuff with it and a writer's strike hit. But anyway, it's about this. I kind of cast the characters in this comedy club. And we were recording at this place called Room 5, where we did a bunch of things. And it was next to the Acme Comedy Club, a comedy theater where Brett was a regular, which I got him into back in 2001 or something. And we were shooting at this place.

The owner gave us the bar on the off hours, and we were there all night into the early morning doing this. We wrapped three days of shooting at this bar that we made look at the comedy club. I'll never forget this because it broke my heart, realizing, oh, what an idiot I am. I'm walking out of the, we're wrapping up, we finish the day, and who do I see right as you walk out, Brett? And Brett's like, hey, what are you doing?

I'm like, oh, we just shot a pilot. And I could see in his head, like, what was it about? And why didn't you think of me? He never said that, but I could read it in his eyes. I would have said it. And in my head, I was like, oh, my God, how did I not think of Brett when I was writing this? And the answer was, I just wasn't, I didn't see him enough. I would say it out of mind.

Yeah, like if it was today, he would have been probably a main character. Yeah. But I'm like, oh my God. And so that that was, and then the other thing, right around 2011, I mean, 2011 is when Schmo's really the podcast, 2010 is when we started it. But 2011, 2012 is when it started to pick up. And I started adding characters. And it really is the same thing.

He had his family. If I could go back, I think my original cast of how I would have cast that show. today would be myself and Ellis obviously I would have put you in as a co-host I would have had Kate Mulligan and Brett that would have been my starting there would be my starting team for the podcast and bringing people in that were part of it as you're saying that because I'm sitting here no I think because of what you said I think that you're you're one of my regrets has nothing to do with us yeah that is that's what it is interviews oh what are you're going to say What were you going to say?

What were you going to say? I don't know if I can say what I think you were going to say. About what I didn't bring you over? Yeah. Yeah. The first, we'll talk about that in a second, too. But, no. Okay. So it's not that, like, it's not that I don't think of Brett as your partner in crime.

I just think of me as your number two for, since 2014, like, consistently more than anybody. I wouldn't say 2014. I think that it was, I think it was more, like, when you were hosting stuff during the Shmose period, but we, you know, there was Tiffany and. No,

no, I wasn't that then. I was not in order that. I'm saying consistently. Like over 10 years, has there gone a month? Has there gone two months where I haven't been on air with you in two, in 10 years?

If it's a month, yes, because it's about the next period that we're about to talk about. But what you said, the regret you thought. Oh, that was probably that month. But speaking of my regret first was that the,

Roxy and I, I think, one of our biggest, the only thing like I said, working with you was great and working with everybody that we worked with a Collider was great, but that showed me. You loved Collider Life. I hate it. I hate it. I like the. You loved going to Burbank early in the morning.

Oh, I loved so much. It was so great. Spending an hour and a half. You love being screamed at when we were on break. Not being appreciated. and we were pulling in views. You love pulling in the highest numbers and having our study have buried.

You loved it. I loved it. Don't lie to the people. Love it. I love that. But I went, but I got there after being stuck in that traffic and then we got on air and we did everything.

But my favorite things to do was the kind of tag teaming interviews that we did. Because I think that you and I were a very good interview team because you understood the assignment. There are other people sometimes that, like, how can we don't get to interview? Because you ask ridiculous questions. that's why. I think that, I think it's a little bit of double-edged sword because when we never would let anybody else ask questions but me and you,

when people would finally get a question, they wanted to ask something ridiculous because they knew they'd only have one and they were like, this is my one question. And we had a few guests almost kill posts because of it and almost lose guests from publicists because of it. I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm just saying I do think it's hard when this happens to be an,

extreme skill set of both you and mine. And that is not an easy environment to like push yourself into. Yeah, no. And it was and it was one of those things where we, you know, we'd have and we'd have people in the room with us too, but it was those interviews were great. And I, the amount of people that we got in. Massive stars. No, and that's why I gave, I mean, so I give, I give Frosty a lot of credit because Frosty would. And Wendy, she booked a ton of people for us. Of course. Frosty, though, was the one where he would be like, I can't do, and I had the conversation with him in the office because I was still, I think when I just started, I was still

an executive, but he said, there's a lot of these that, A, I won't be able to do, because I'll either be out of town and so Clyde Alive should have them, or B, they're not right for me, like the wrestlers. When the wrestlers came in, we're like, yeah, give us the rest. Those wrestlers were, when we did the wrestlers, they were like our best numbers. We had CM Punk.

Yeah, that was, so all that, that was my regret that is that we didn't get a chance to do that here, and that's all So because, you know, as I just mentioned, was Steve in the connections that he had because of Collider and the name that they had, they were able to get more guests with, and we weren't working. We didn't have to work to try to book guests because we had the company doing it for us.

Trying to book a lot of guests is very tough unless you have a booker. And I have a booker right now. And so that's going to hopefully change next year. And, you know, we're still trying to build up and do new things. But no, the regret that Roxy's talking about is after I left Collider, I started to think about what I wanted SCN live to look like. Roxy tells a different story here, but we'll complete it in the second. A true story.

The words, the words were not the words. The words were not the words. The intention was the intent. But the words are not the words. There are different ways of what you sit here. It is true. Anyway, so I had trying to figure out what I was going to do, what I wanted the tone to be, and I wanted the tone to be more comedy-based.

I wanted it to be bits and all those types of things, and I knew that interviews probably wouldn't happen right away. So I knew Kate was coming with me, and I knew that Brett was going to be with me, and I was like, okay, and Winston was available, so I was like, okay, that's, I think that's going to be my crew. And then Roxy, because Roxy is, and I'll say this right, the most loyal person you will ever meet in your lifetime. She is super loyal,

and I don't, and I believe Roxy, to I've asked her this question before, if I would have asked you, and I'll ask you again on air, if I would ask you that day, when you were, right, the day that I left,

I would have, I want you to leave Clyde alive and come with me. Yeah, I would have. But I also, but look, another side of that too was that you had an opportunity

to run the show and co-host the show yourself. So I think it was a good thing for you also. but I said to you, I think that it's not... And I was also peeved at you, remember? Because I was leaving? No.

What did I do? I don't remember. No. You don't what you say? Sure. Number one, you hadn't asked me to come with you. Okay. And number two, you had recommended somebody else take over the show.

Oh, Riley, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, was it, I think... It was Riley. Wasn't it Riley and you, though? No. No, I wouldn't have told him to replace you? He hadn't selected me.

yet and Fernandez asked you who do you think should host the show and you said Riley but with you you just said Riley he meant he meant the co-anchor yeah he meant who should lead the show yeah and I I was bummed about that yeah I get it I was bummed about it because you didn't want me and and I didn't recommend me for it to take your job yeah but what I told but but that was a matter of that he knew he knew you were always going to be the chair that you were in he knew you were going to be in that's that's that That one, I'm not going to, I'm not going to give you that one. Because that was just a matter of who would be sitting with Roxy. It was what he was asking me.

I don't think that's how he interpreted it because he almost gave it to Riley. And I. And kicked you off the show? No, had Riley sit in your seat and then had me sit where I still was. And that's what I recommend. But I was the co-host. And I wanted to host the show. I understand.

And, but when that happened, I, it wasn't about, and honestly, Riley is an amazing host. and it's a fair thing to do, especially because also you guys go back further than I do, and he deserved a shot at it. But I was like... You didn't get it, though. I got it. Right.

But you hadn't recommended me for it, which made Fernandez not know which way to go. And then I had to, like, pitch myself over somebody. It was uncomfortable. But none of that's the point. The point is that you didn't ask me to come with you and that. So it was a one-two punch where I was like, man, we're not where I thought we were. were. That's fair. We talked that out, though. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, obviously. That's why last week I walked him mad at you. Yeah, two weeks ago. I was thinking about that. Yeah, that's right. So then,

that show, first of all, didn't work out without you, which I, anybody could have predicted. But why, though, do you think? For two reasons. This was the third reason why I was stoked with you at the time. You, rightfully so, who had started that show in that time slot. Oh. kept your show. When you left, your new show was in that time slot. And people weren't loyal to the brand name. They were loyal to you. And so they went over with you. And we lost most of our live viewership because you were doing the show then. And Mark wouldn't move the showtime. Well, that's the thing is what I told him. We sat in that room. I said to him because, so for people, the way that it went down was that I was planning on leaving in the first place.

and I almost had left a year before, almost left in December of 2018. And then I was planning on leaving anyway. And then Fernandez and I talked and he's like, yeah, maybe it's not working out. And I said the first thing that I thought of was, thank God I don't have to drive the Burbank anymore. But I said, dude, I'm still,

and I told him in the room. And he was awesome about how I left. He said, yeah, you can promote your stuff, you know, while you're here. I'll give you another month for health insurance. He was letting me stay for the month. He was fantastic on the way that he handled it. But I told him, I said,

I said, look, I told you when I was doing this, like my, like a morning show is what I, what I do. And I want to do that. And I'm going to continue to do that. I said, my recommendation is so what I could almost even do on my channel is I can throw to you guys. I think you should move it. But they had a whole slate and they wouldn't move it. Right. But their slate wasn't doing anything.

I'm not saying it was. I'm just saying, you asked, why didn't it work? Right. Well, because now we're going up against. Sorry. Go ahead. You in your time. Let's start again with that now.

So the reason I think it didn't work, there's multiple. Number one is because even though it was called Collider Live, people were there for you a lot of the time. And like you saw, the interviews I did still pulled millions. Crushed. Crushed. I still didn't even realize you had Alan Richardson on when this whole area is. We pulled huge numbers for our interviews. But we couldn't up our live viewership because you were just dominating in that time period because they were there for you, not for Collider.

They didn't care about the brand. It's not an editorial piece. You know, they care about the hosts. Which is also interesting too because it was the live viewers I showed, but like the, but it was the still topics and like the after, as long as the views were doing good afterwards, right? But they were doing okay, but not great. The interviews were doing well. And then if you remember, we pitched a whole new show that was signed off on.

We were supposed to start January 2nd. It was going to be like a variety show. So it was me, Doreena, and Perry. Oh, I remember. And we were going to have Roka and Riley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was different about that than quite a lot. It was actually dope.

Like, it was more games and segments and things with interviews. That was more stuff that you would hate. But, like, more clickable. Yeah, a lot of games, cool stuff. Like, it was, we spent so much time on this deck. Developing it. Yeah, developing it. Exactly.

So then we got it approved, and we were supposed to start January 2nd, and I got into work, and I got canned. Everybody did. Yeah. Well, that, and that's ultimately weird. Well, not everybody, because Perry didn't get canned and Dorina didn't get canned. So of my show, I was the only one. Well, yeah, well, yeah, if yours, McCuga got let go, right? Or was he already.

No, McCugua got let go. Roka, Riley. Riley. So I'm not saying that people weren't like to go. I know, but better at that crew, right? So, well, then that was, and you can give me credit on this one, the day that that went down, I said, come over, get on the desk right away. You and Riley came over right away.

Well, I want to give you even more credit. How did I find out that I lost my job? Is an email? Or was it Twitter? Oh, was that the whole Twitter that blow up the one day? You called me, and you said, you're walking into a shit storm today. Oh, is that true? Yeah.

I didn't even remember that. Yeah, I believe it. So that. I probably saw it on. No, before. I don't know how you knew. Okay. But you were like, I need just one.

want you to know. Because I was, I thought, so I prepared you for it. Yeah. I was on my way to, to do my new variety show that I had been told I had one year guaranteed. So you weren't blindsided. So you weren't blindsided. I mean, I was blindsided, but I didn't walk in like cheery. Right. I walked in like, what's going on. What's about to happen? Yeah. Okay. Um, so you let me know. And then, but it was still like just crazy. And then you did afterwards. You were like, do you want to come over here? Which I wasn't expecting because. you hadn't wanted me over here. So I was like, oh, no, I'm not, I don't know what I'm going to do during this time period.

And at that time, I was there five days a week. Right. In the mornings. That's a big. It's a big cut. Yeah. I mean, still to this day, I haven't filled what that was. Right.

It was a huge, yeah, and I took my sister on vacation in December because they had sworn a year of job security. But you know what? I don't, there's not, when people like, there is no security in this space. No, of course. There really isn't. Exactly. And, like, I didn't take it the way that our friends took it ever. Like, I didn't do any public posting about that.

Right. You and I talked about it. Business is business. I think, yeah. Yeah, I was grateful to have the job in the first place. That's why I've never won shit on Clarede Live, even though you continue to do. I'm so grateful for every job. I have it so hard out here. I've been, I've been pretty vocal in the fact that I was grateful for the fact that you've never ripped on Fernandez.

Never. And neither have I. No, no. He was, he was, I still. text with them all the time. He was, he gave me a job after that for the VO stuff that I filmed here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, cool. Yeah, he was great, he was great to me. He was great to me. And it wasn't that. It was just that I just didn't understand.

Because I guess I just come from a different school of thought where I think that when we were working, as hard as we were working, because we, we, I believe that Collider Live at that point had surpassed movie talk as like the thing people were going to that channel for or that YouTube space for. I think so too. And even though movie talk was great. It was great.

Yeah. But I feel like it had, it had, you know, it had changed. and there was a little bit more kind of a flare to it, fun to it, and there were other people that were involved that just hated the show, hated what we were doing, and it made it less fun. And so when I think of- You mean in the office? Yeah.

Yeah, that was brutal. Yeah, and so like- That was brutal. So when you come in and you have this great show, and then you walk out to see people that are working there that should be like, oh, it was great. You guys, next time you should do this, they're just kind of like this. I mean, that was the best version of a Christian.

And remember there was a few times where I got annihilated screamed at. Like top of your lungs screamed at in a professional environment where it's just like, what? Right. And we're just having fun and doing that. Well, look, it is what it is. Like about thumbnails. I was like, what? Was it about thumbnails?

One time, I won't name the person's name because it's actually a mutual friend of ours, closer with you. Not the young one. Yeah. Anyway. And he like lost his shit on me about a thumbnail. that I didn't make or have anything to do with. I have no idea what was going on in the office that day. I remember that.

Oh, top of his long, no, you were gone. It was right the week after I left. Okay. Top of his long screamed at me, scream to me. And I was like, this is weird. Yeah. Well, that's, and that's what I meant. I think it just became less fun.

But when we moved over and then you came in. When we were in the room, it was dope. A lot of times. Yeah. I think for the first year for me. And then after. How long were we there? I think that was the problem is that it started that show started a week after my brother passed away.

Yeah, nothing's going to be fun. So it wasn't, I mean, it took my mind off of it. So when I started it was, but. I don't think I realized that. Yeah. And it stayed with me for, and I talked about it many times over, it stayed with me for, I didn't talk to any, in that year, how often did I talk to you about my emotions about how I was feeling? Zero. Right.

And it bottled up. And I, and, you know, and I've talked about it. And I lost it on the air one time because of it. And I got, and I still get stupid comments today, rightfully so. But for, because of I had, and I lost the schnep, I lost two, or we lost, about two weeks before my brother passed. It was like, boom, boom. And then dealing with all this other stuff, not feeling support, all of a sudden,

it's just built up. And, you know, you, like where we're going to talk about it a little bit, when you have somebody to talk to, in your case, We were talking about better help us help you. I had it this morning. Good. Thank goodness. Great.

And so I didn't. And I didn't do any of that. And so it was a rough. It was that whole time. And getting the interviews and doing all that was great. But then there was just other things that just, and there were some very funny moments that we would have. And like,

and the audience though was very great, very loyal. Like I loved what like, that's how we, like David B. And all the, and so many different people that were doing, I mean, Thrawn, who was still around. I was doing music for us and we had so many great, great moments for sure. But then I almost wished that because you remember originally what the show was supposed to be? I don't know.

You'll remember when I tell you. It was just, Fernandez wanted to do the Christian Harlov show. And we were going to change the main room where Schmodeon was into that set and make it more stern. Yeah, yeah, I know. And give you like the Robin booth. And it was supposed to just be me and you and like a, few cast of characters that we'd have come in. Yeah, I remember.

And in my head, I said, what if I'm not here in two or three years? I'm going to give them the Christian Harlow show name? Yeah. So I said, I walked in, because I was doing one-on-one with Christian Harlov at that time, and I walked into him and I said, why don't we just call it Collider Live? Because they were doing that series Collider Live at the movies and stuff too. And they already had banners and stuff for it. I'll just take the name and call it Collider Live because we'll do it live.

And remember, I think we were. three days a week to start. Yeah. And then he's like, can you do it four? Can you do it five? I was like, well, can I take Fridays off then? I'm doing it daily. And he wouldn't let me take Fridays off.

And so anyway, so we built that thing out. Yeah, I remember because at that time, I was at screen junkies still. And I was doing two days, screen junkies, three days, Glider Live. Yeah, back forth. Yeah, and then we did. And once the show started pulling numbers, they wanted to do five. Yeah. And then we built out more of a thing because when we started, it was just me and you.

Makuga wasn't even part of the company at the point. That was when he had left. When was he doing the TV talk stuff? Well, I don't remember. It's all gets muddled because I think that there was like a round of layoffs that they had had. And McCug and Ken were part of that at first. And then they brought Makuga back for Collider Live and other things too. So I don't remember how that worked out.

And then they brought Ken back for, Ken took over Jedi Council when I left. So, yeah, I don't know, I remember exactly that work, but I wanted to do like what I wanted to do for that show because that was the other thing, I think that knowing what I do now about the podcast space, and this is not, and you're going to get offended at this. But I would have not done Clyer Live, I would have stuck with one-on-one with Christian Harlov,

knowing. Not that I didn't. Well, but, you know, no, but not that I didn't. You just mean financially. that would have been smarter. That show itself, knowing what Josh Harwood shows does now, Chris Van Bleet, if I would have kept that show going from 20, I mean, those, you look now, those shows are still pulling numbers over there for that, for that channel.

That channel's dead. And knowing the guess that I had. And it was easier for me to do it. I wasn't dealing. And I had way more support from the, you know, we were saying how we didn't have support on Clare. I had way more support on that show. Like the.

Because it was easier to wrap their heads around. It's not like a motley crew of whatever. It's an interview show. Yeah. There was no, we weren't doing clipouts on that thing yet. We could have done clipout. I mean, so that show itself, I think, could have, you know, because I remember back then, because views were so different.

Like, when you would do 50 or 60,000 views on an episode, that was bad. Like, so when you do, because it's so crazy to think about it. It's crazy because, like, because AdSense wasn't the same, it's better now. But like when you do 60,000 on an episode now, it's good. And we would, and like so if a Collider, because you got to remember at one point, movie talk at its heyday was doing like between 10 to 15,000 viewers live. Live.

Oh, my God. Yeah. And its heyday, it was doing like on AMC and all this stuff. It was doing like 10,000. And then I remember, I think one of our highest one on Collider Live was like five. It's so weird because now like if I get 300 live viewers, I'm like, okay, let's go. It's also very over, it's also very over, the movie space, it's also very oversaturated.

Have you thought about doing one-on-one? So I've just, I've tried it. I tried it on virtual during the pandemic. And it's the same thing. It's the same exact answer I have for you, what we were just talking about with guests. It's because Collider was providing. I would have, I had Clancy Brown, Leah Thompson, all these people like lined up. We, you know, and I just, and I was week to week to week to week to

week week. It was easy. Not easy, but you know what I mean? Like I had guests just lined up. I don't have them lined up now. So it was like, when I was doing it, it was like, oh, I reached out to my friends or reach out to people I know. Let me, I'll get Freddie. I'll get, you know, I'll get, you know, I'll get Katie. And it's like, it's only so many times you can interview Katie Sackoff. And they're like, okay, well, what else? You shouldn't have anything else. We know, you guys have talked about the same shit for the last 15 years. But, you know, there's, that's why I'm trying to line up guests now. I don't know if I would call it. it one-on-one. I probably just have a big, like, if my goal is, if I can start booking guests,

one big guest a month for now. I would put it on a Tuesday episode. For 12 big guests a year. That would be the goal. And then if those started to do well, then I'll up it to two. Then try to up it to three. And then piecing it out, doing clipouts, doing shorts, doing all that. And I have some interesting, like, guests that were thrown out, thrown to me. I'm working. on, we're working on Anthony Michael Hall right now. That's such a cool one. And he was just on Michael Rosenbaum recently and working on that one. That would be great to sit down and talk to him about a bunch of different things.

There's another name that was thrown out to me yesterday that they're like, would you be interested? And this person was like, are you kidding? There's a few good, really good names. So the answer is I don't necessarily think I would call it that because I don't need to anymore because it's on my channel. You know what I mean? Like that was the other thing is that that was one of the same reasons I thought about.

one-on-one with Christian Harlov is on Collider. If Fernandez wanted to be a douche about it, he could have said, you can't use that name anymore. That's my, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, if you wanted to, he never did that. Ever. No, he, like I said, I can't, I can't, I can't say a bad word about him. He was, he was, he was, he was fantastic to me all the way around the, like, let me.

I can't not say a bad word about him, but I don't. Yeah, I mean, but I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying in my person, personal experience of how I... I know what you mean. I know what you mean. But like I... I can say bad word about everybody who were. Right.

Yeah. Sure. But I mean like I... I can say bad word about myself. Yeah. But people were like, they said to me like, hey, did Fernandez do you wrong? Never.

Do I think that, you know, maybe some other people feel that he might have? Maybe. But my personal experience never did. I think it's more about not on purpose. Yeah, not on purpose. Do I think it's good business practice for people to be walking and thinking they have a year

worth of a show and then to can them when you're out of town on vacation. No. Right. I don't. I think he probably doesn't think that's the best way he could handle them now either. Right. I think probably not. And then a lot of stuff kind of right when that happened, then, no, he will definitely

probably tell you not so because there was a whole big, there was a whole big Twitter storm that happened right after. Yeah, that was a crazy heat. Right. And he had to play catch up on that. Because a lot of our people were posting horrible things. Yeah. Yeah, it was a whole thing.

It was a long time. It was a crazy time. But anyway. But transferring that over into like what we're, you know, and then, well, before I get into the S-E-N days, so we'll do that too, I wanted to tell you, as I mentioned earlier, and I'm not kidding around when I tell you guys that, you know, and I never will say that there's an excuse for any time. If you bottle up your emotions and you don't talk to people about it, then you, whatever, whatever

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So you guys did November, December, and then canceled in January? On January 2nd. On January 2nd. So then, so January. But we didn't have, we didn't do shows for the last two weeks. of December. Okay. So, so like you had basically, so you basically had two months. So then January comes, when did you start doing S-E-N full-time? I don't remember. I actually have a really hard time remembering S-E-N in general because like there was different sections of it because there was

S-E-N in person. Right. But then the majority of S-E-N was virtual. And you hosted that. And I hosted. And you were the main host. But that was because of the pandemic, right? That I didn't do it? No, that we went to fully digital. Oh, yeah. That was because of that. Okay. So before that, I was in studio.

I was here. You guys. But I was on, I don't know how often twice maybe a week. Okay, twice because I, what happened, and so the difference is that we collider live, we had people for five days a week, and Fernandez goes, here's my budget, and this is how much you can pay people per week.

I didn't know what the hell my budget was. was in S&M. You didn't know how much money you'd be making. I had no idea. I was running off super chats and still off the Shmodeown Patreon and everything else too. So I had said... But don't say it was like a favorite that I was hosting five days a week. I was the only one who was making the channel... Oh, I didn't say it was a favorite. You said, see, I did five to do it? Oh, no, I'm just kidding. But like, when it, that was, yeah, you were, you were really probably the only person that could host to that show.

Only because of the games that I was, like, figuring out. So, so that was the second iteration of SES. That was the second. That was once I went virtual because it was starting. So what happened with that show is that, as I was mentioning, when I had the idea, I was like, okay, you could do essentially what Campi was doing with the superchats, right? You do the, and what's what I do for my live shows now? I do, when I do my live show with Roka, it's the way that I always wanted to do S-E-N. It was like, you do all the topics, and at the end of the show, you do the super chat questions.

The problem was when you're, and we didn't really have any sponsors yet. We were starting to get some, but we didn't have any. and we were running Schmodeown off the Schmodown Patreon. So I had a very limited budget of what I could do. I'm like, how am I going to pay Roxy R.B3, Goddard, Riley, Kate Mulligan, Winston, Steph, Sabrina, Brett. How am I going to pay everybody in order to do it? And David Michael Frank, who set it up was like, hey, have you ever tried to do the donation bot thing?

I was like, well, what is that? And he goes, well, you can basically set the tip in stream. Labs. Oh, yeah, Ellis hated this. I hated this. But this, basically we called it the Schmobot. And what it would... I completely forgot about this.

Schmobat is what destroyed the show for me. Because the quality of the show itself, when we were viving, was awesome. The jokes, like everybody laughing in here never had that feeling of like, we're not appreciated because we would finish up the show. We'd be cracking up and we would have a great... Roka was also on the show a lot. And so...

We started to think about, okay, well, if you wanted, you could probably make some money to pay everybody if you did these donations. You let the fans interrupt the show if they throw in, you know, $20, whatever it is. And he was 100% right. Yeah. If you needed to pay for all those people, that's the only way to it. It was one of the things when Skybant, when I brought it over to Skybound, because we started it before went to Skybound. And they looked at how much the show was made. Oh my God, I completely forgot about that.

Yeah. They looked at how much money the show was making monthly. And they're like, okay, well, that adds into the revenue. It makes sense for us to be able to do this, this, and this, and this. And then all the money went to everybody on the freaking, you know, on the show, but I was able to pay everybody. But it destroyed the quality of the show. I remember vividly driving on an episode that I wasn't on,

and driving down the highway and listening to him being into the conversation, and then a schmobot would interrupt the conversation. and I went, and I couldn't really imagine what the audience felt. And then the problem always was because it happened to me and it happened to everyone else. They forgot what they were talking about before the Schmobach came in and that conversation that was so good was lost. So imagine like right now, we're in the middle of conversation

and the Schmobach comes in. I don't have to imagine. I did it. And I was super appreciative of the fact that people were generously putting in there and throwing it in there because we asked them to do it. Right. But it turned the show into a telethon. And then even more,

more so when we went to virtual because it was more so like, because I wasn't on it and I was like, and I said this to you. I said, I need you to host the show. And we had certain marks where you were trying to hit. Yes. Yeah. And it was difficult. The reason I started doing the games was because I'm very aware. I think you know this Christian.

I'm pretty business savvy in terms of there were six people on the show every day. I know. And I know that if we are not making X amount, then there's no. longer some of those people aren't going to have a job right so it's like okay i know my job is to hit x amount or people are getting fired because we can't pay that and you're a hundred percent right and i hated that about the show because it makes it so that you have to choose over quality you have to be focused on it's a telethon yeah it turns into a telethon a night and that's and that's when i made the decision of like we can't do s en anymore we just can't because it's not it wasn't fair to everybody else they were just

there to kind of like, how do we, it was stressful to try to figure out how to what games to come up with. And I'm like, that's not what we started doing this. And that's ultimately where big thing came from. Yeah, but unfortunately, we still, because we never got back to that point and because it was the thing that was making us the most money, all of us still lost that job. I know. Well, yeah, but by the time, by the time, I was there four days a week. I know. Well, yeah, S. And I'm here once. Yeah, it's true. I get it. But everybody that was like that. Like people were three days, two days. Yeah. But the problem was the Wednesday, once. I took it over from Skybound, I looked at my budget monthly.

I'm like, I cannot afford the show. I will be bankrupt. No, there's nothing you could do. There's nothing I could do. It's just so, it's, that's the part, the nature of this business. It's so hard.

That's why it's been impossible. Like, since the Collider Days to fill that, like, it's so hard to have a five day a week on air consistently. That's why I did, that's why I did the show this way. That's why you created it for yourself.

This, I mean, but big thing, like the big thing was created because it started, I think, with like just me and Ellis doing something on the air about just BS and back and forth. And then it turned. And I was like, okay, we can turn Sith Council into something to you.

And then I was like, but I want to pre-tape. I don't need to do live. And then I started to build it up. And then once we were able to get sponsors on board and do that, and I was like, okay, and we build up the crew and make sure that you know that sometimes you have this, sometimes you have this. But I still do think. And then I dip my toe back into the live show area.

It's been doing it with Roka every Monday. And that show has, because I really have learned that about the YouTube algorithm in general, that it's like when I started doing the live show on YouTube, it was like, oh, it was okay. But now that I do it consistently every Monday, it starts to push people and go, oh, that's cool. They do a live show, do a live show. And so I've done a few live, and I've done a few live with Koi and Winston on Capes and Cowles. But I think that the idea would be, because what I want to try to do is I think that there's a way to do it where,

we can do, and I've mentioned this beforehand, we could do me, you, staff, Mike, and Brett once a week to start. And now with the Video Ninja thing that I have and the other stuff that I have of what, and now with the program that I have to make it virtual, can make it look good and also know that we can have consistent conversation

without interruptions, plus if we do get, a guest we can either you know I would the show would probably have to go to two hours if there was a guest or in general no in general I think it'd have to go to two hours because I think that it would have to be similar to what we did with Collider right where we'd open up have some few conversations how's everybody doing hit some main topics that if we get a guest either I'm interviewing somebody by myself placing into the show you and I get a virtual interview together we're placing it into the show we end the show the last half an hour with questions.

You know what I mean? And it's like so and we can instead of this or in addition to this? I don't know yet. I think that maybe there'd be something where it's just maybe there's a show where it's me and you. Maybe it's, I don't know yet. So what are the shows that you really want to keep regardless, capes and cowls? All the shows of keeping.

It's just a matter of what I do with like what iteration of it is. right like so because there is what I do like is I like this show a lot this one we're doing right now and especially the last like this current moment yes you mean our last show in this studio you like yes but I'm but I also mean that it's like you know the the idea that I don't always have to there's some people that made comments about like I tune to this show for movie news we can do that on four out of the five days I like that we're able to just talk and I don't know where it's going to go today. We know we're going to cover our TV, the TV picks. We got good ones. And you finally watched one of the shows? I watched one of them. Before you did.

We'll talk about that. And so, so to answer your question as far as how that goes. Okay, blind man. What just happened? I just looked at so much time we had. But we were like, my eyes are so shitty now. But when it comes to it, Mondays will be that show with Roka, that live show. That show, that show's been doing well and it's easy for the two of us. You know, we come and we hit the, the main topics for whatever happened for that over the weekend and what's about to go down. You should cover a lot of box office stuff. Cool.

Tuesday is going to be interesting because Tuesday now is an open spot. No, Tuesday, that show, the last one. I was just saying, yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, the Tuesday, the UAP Tuesday is now on the Down Earth Channel. Yeah. And so moving, well, this week, and of course it did, the final one with Riley and I did pretty well. but it's moving.

So Tuesday will be an open spot. And I think to start, I'll probably do a live show by myself, just on Tuesday because my studio is not ready yet. It's not even ready until July for guests and stuff too, but it will be. And then I might do a Tuesday live show with two New York people,

but I don't know who they are yet. I have ideas. I have a couple ideas. And so Wednesday. For your ideas? I have a couple different ideas. I have like Matt, Sarah, obviously.

Samantha, what I told you about. And then, so you, do you know the name Tom Chattelbash? He's a past live of yours, friend. No, he's, Tom Chattelbatch was doing YouTube movie reviews before Stuckman, before Johns. Wow. I didn't know anybody was doing it before them. We were, Shmose was, two years before them. But they came in, Johns, I think, started in 2009, 10.

I always get it wrong. I'm going to come up. Tom Shattlesh? Tom Chattelbash. And so... That spelling has got to be tough. C-H-A-T-A-L-B-A-S-H. And so he was like 16 or 17. He was really on a trajectory to, like, be huge.

And he stopped because he went to college. He decided he didn't want to do YouTube stuff. I've seen this person. Yeah, he took a... He was an FCL for a little bit too. And he took a break. That's probably that I see. And then he came back.

And I think he just recently hit like 10,000 subscribers on his channel, but he's very... 15. 15. Okay, he's very well-informed on movies, a movie buff. He's got a good sense of humor. He lives in the same area. Cool. Regardless, a general area to where I am. So he might be somebody. There is a comedian that has performed at Alice's show that I'm interested in.

There's a few different people that I'm thinking about for like the Tuesday show, right? And then Wednesday is where I think that I would want to do. our show because it's usually when all of us tape our show anyway. But not Sith? Or whatever. Sith has been toast for it's really, I mean, even you watch the episode, all three of us are kind of just getting a little stale on it right now. And hopefully, you know, hopefully it bounces back.

But right now, it's just kind of like, it's not fun for the audience to hear us going like, I don't know, this one was okay. So, you know, we'll give our opinions on it when the show's on itself. But we want to talk about other stuff. And I think that it might be more fun for all of us. us to potentially do that Wednesday as the live show, right? To where in my head, maybe Thursday is another live show in New York or another institute show in New York, I don't know.

Not capes? Friday's capes. Friday would be capes. Oh, I thought you filmed it Thursday. We filmed it Thursday. Yeah. So that's my initial, that's my, that's my thought. That's what's in my head right now.

Tomorrow that could be different. So you think you want to do two New Yorkers show? Possibly. And so it began. No. But I told you, though, you can do what I want to make sure that the audience knows is that you're going to have in studio shows. You're going to have L.A. crew. I'm a New York crew.

And then you're also going to have the out of the theater reactions that aren't going anywhere. The regular reactions, like it's going to be, there's going to be a lot. Why would it, if I'm going to start a live show, you don't think I'm going to put everything into that live show? Let's talk about it. Okay. Go ahead. Instead of doing shows where half the time it's just me and you. And sometimes Brett's here.

Right. And he's here going to be six people on the show. Six. Brett, me, you, Steph, Mike. Okay, five. Okay, five. Mike sometimes is working. So it'll be like between four and five. Yeah. Is that too much? I don't know. I'm just saying it's not more. Right. I don't you mean. It's less. Do you, so you don't prefer that then? No, I'm not saying I don't prefer it. You don't know yet.

It's too new. I don't know what it would be. I thought, you know, that's not in addition to getting this. You're getting this group show. That's instead of this, you're doing the group show. But that's, like I said. It's a thought. I know.

I don't know that it's a wrong thought. The other thought could be this. The other thought is Monday, same thing I just said, Tuesday, same thing I just said. Wednesday is that live show. Thursday goes to Caps and Cowls. And then Friday is New York person in the studio. Roxy from virtual. Also possible.

There's a lot of possibilities. The whole point is you're going to figure out what works for you. Right. And you're going to see. And that's what it's going to do. And I think you're going to, like I said, want more in studio stuff. I don't know. Your energy is like you need peeps.

But I also remember though, I can only put three people in that studio right now. That's a lot. That's what you do in here. Yeah, I know. But I think, but it's a matter. But it's still. We'll find. good people there and then you're going to know what to do.

Yeah. And then it'll be, it's, it's going to grow out. And what I'm also ready for is that for the first two weeks, I'm going to be there with the background that's already there. Yeah, people are, it's the white wall and the pink lights and whatever it is too. And I don't love it. Brett doesn't love it and everything too. And the audience is going to be complaining about it for two or three weeks.

But then we already have ideas of the movies and the stuff that we're going to put in the background. Can you make it look? sleek. Sadie's going to help. So yes. So, yeah, because she's already,

she already ordered, we got, like, poster boards, like, that you're going to put, like, some of my favorite movies

and comedians and anything's doing, put it in the background, and then, you know, we'll set it up, and then I'm probably going to have to get a new table.

The table that we have there, I don't love, but that'll take time. I wish. I was going to send it. The problem is this, this is so much weight. It's so much weight.

By the time you guys are watching this, this table's on the street. Oh, I hate that. I hate it was custom-made this table, and I had to. I couldn't sell it. I could try and sell it. Nobody would buy it. It's custom-made. It's eight months old, maybe a year.

Anyway. That's devastating. It sucks. It's a sick table. It really is. I wish you had to use for it. I know. The table at my place is custom-made, too.

So good. All right, so we dove into a lot of things, past memory lane, if you will. Nuts. Before we- I cannot believe this is our last show. I know. And, well, you know, before we move on to your TV stuff. Yeah.

Inside Out, too. Man. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. Can't wait. How is anxiety? Really good. Really good, but I don't want to say too much.

But like, really, really good. Our cast of characters reunite again, our emotions that we know. Who do relate most to? Right now in my life? Joy. What? Just because I'm leaving, you mean? No, I'm just really happy for you.

Oh, good, yeah. Well, because I've been doing... That's like the most unbelievable answer a person could give. You know, I've been doing some work, rocks. My own work. Wow. You know what I mean?

Do you don't ever hear people going through a move say that the thing they relate most to is joy? Well, yeah, because I think that it's... Because I have this things that I've been doing like in my routine in the morning that have really been working for me. What? So I've talked about it many times over about like with manifestation and all those types of things too.

And people, people don't understand about manifestation. What they think it is that they think like, I'm going to be a millionaire. And it's like, you can't magically make things happen. It's not what it's about. It's about shaping your mentality into positive thinking. And it's about a matter of waking up in the morning. And if you say to yourself, oh, my God, I'm so stressed out. I'm going to do this.

I'm going to do that. You're literally willing your energy into that. And it's like if you wait. wake up in the morning and say, I had a great day today. I wound up having a really good conversation with Roxy. We had so much fun on the show. I literally said this to myself today, and so far so good. And I said, we had a great show.

It was great to see her. Staff and Mike came in. We had a good show. My kids were in a good mood. We did this. We did that. And I went to it, and I'm excited. And we had a really good time watching a movie tonight with my wife.

And like these little things, like you're just putting it out there, it doesn't always go 100%, but your head, you're kind of, it's like, our minds of what we do with our subconscious and everything too, it's just so much more powerful than we actually realize with consciousness and all that.

And I truly believe it because when I started doing that, and I started doing that in general, like I found things changing because then, and it's not magic. It's a matter of you just, you're just retooling your brain into, into the way that you think. Because if you, I used to do that all the time,

Like, it's not going to work out. I know it. Here's another time. Like, of course, we're going to try to get this freaking sponsor and something's going to happen. And that's what happened because I was telling myself that wasn't going to happen. And then it was a matter of, okay, yeah, it didn't work out today because something else better is supposed to happen tomorrow. And you have, it is, it is easier said than done. And it is a mentality of keeping yourself that way.

But that's why we want. Long-winded answer. No, it's not. But the movie's awesome. I think it's important. That's cool. Yeah, the movie's really good. I'm so jealous.

I'm excited to see it. Yeah, I took my 12-year-old to see it, hit home to her because it's Riley at 13 years old. She's trying to, you know, going through puberty, trying to figure it all out. There's some really good emotional moments in it. Do you think it lends itself to have an inside out three? Sure. Sure. I mean, I think that you can do that because even if you get hurt of it.

place when she's going to college. Yeah. And I think in the same way, I, Pixar needed a hit. Is Pixar? Yeah, this is it. This is it. This is,

I mean, it's, it's my favorite Pixar movie. Then you're gonna, you're gonna love it. The first one, I mean. Yeah,

you're gonna love it. You're gonna love it because it's, you know how Toy Story, Toy Story 2 came out? You're like, how are you gonna be better than the first one? You're like, whoa,

two is awesome. And Toy Story 3, which is like, maybe even better. And then Pixar really hasn't had that type of thing. Like, you've had some fine movies,

where you're like, oh man, this is, this to me is one of those movies. It's pretty great. I'm so excited. It's great. I thought it was great. I mean, there's some familiar beats, things that you've seen from the first one. There's a couple moments like, oh, that's kind of what they did in the first one. But it doesn't.

Who cares? Who cares? The first one worked. First one worked. But anyway, okay, now it's TV time, man. Roxy's got some TV picks. And we'll start with the first one here, Rocks. What do we got?

Under the Bridge. This show just, it keeps showing up on people's top 10. of the year list. And I was like, okay, I need to watch every show that's going to be a major award contender. So let me make sure I'm caught up on things. And so we started watching it. It is with Lily Gladstone and Riley Keow. And it is a, based on a true story, a murder trial of a bunch, a teenager who was essentially beaten to death and figuring out who exactly did it. the show is unbelievably well done. I think it's very, for lack of better,

where it's tasteful with what they decide to show and what they don't. Like sometimes you ever just feel like you're watching a show, it's just like gratuitous violence, and you're just like over and over again watching the most horrific things, and you're like, why? Why? Like, I got it. I feel like this show understood

that this was more about the trial and like teaching about bullying and what kind of happens. And so they did a great job with it. It's a really sad story, but interesting take on it. And I didn't know about this story at all. And so you recommend it. Yeah, I really recommend it under the bridge.

All right. Next one. This is for you, Christian. I don't think that's true. This is my trash reality at its finest. This is the show that takes all the other contestants from the biggest reality shows and puts them in a house and makes them try to find their perfect match. And whoever dates the person that people believe is the perfect.

match, they win the show. Okay. So people who are like, you've seen as the villains on all of the other things and all trying to hook up and find their perfect match. It is just so much drama. It's hot people drinking and boning and then boning the next person and trying to be good people so they can win the money, but they're just not. So it's a great, if you like trash TV.

This is it as fine. It's on Netflix. They drop the first part. Now they're dropping the second part. Catch up. So good. Junk food. Yeah.

Jokoi put out a special, which I was, interested in watching, especially after the award show debacle. Did he talk about it? He did not. And I was like, Interestante. I thought he was going to like really address it. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. It popped up on my Netflix. I clicked right on it because I was like, oh, I'm curious what Joe Coy can do because I had never seen his stand-up. I only watched his debacle. Sure.

And then I saw people like Winston, whose opinion I respect being like, this is a bummer because Joe Coy's an unreal stand-up. And I was like, really? So then I clicked on this. And he's really good. He's super funny. He did a great job. I was like, man, that's a bummer for you. Fair enough. All right. Yeah, it was super funny. I was like, that was relatable and funny and he's self-deprecating at times, but he also, he does like some funny crowd work. He's just, he's a funny stand-up. Yeah, it might have been, maybe it was before. Who knows? All right. So final one that we're both watching. Oh, my God. Dark Mac.

matter, man. I'm up to date on this now. You are too. I watched the this week's episode, which gives us at the end, like, so much suspense on what is going to happen next time. Eating into the last episode. Yes, this is what feels to me. Yeah, they crush this penultimate because this feels like a severance or a silo where you're like, what, how's this going to go down? Yeah, I love this show so much. It makes me wonder what the legs are for a season two, because we have, I don't want to give any spoilers, but this is an alternate universe situation kind of thing.

And we've left some people in places that we could. That's probably season two. So especially two different people. But yeah, I'm like, huh. And I would be interested in that. So I feel like they've done a great job because I think by the end of season one we're going to be more than satisfied.

Yeah, I hope so. But then I'm also going to be able to see where this could go. But yeah, it feels like it's fine. Countdown. He really does. How good is Joel Isretton? I think he's amazing. Sadie, I love him.

My wife said to me, she's like, he should win for this because he is so. He'll definitely be nominated. I don't want to give away too much, but he's so convincing in what he's asked to do in this show in both sides of things.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Tatiana Maslani never won for Orphan Black, so not that it's the same thing, but like, I'm just curious if they're actually going to reward this. I wonder. Jennifer Connolly's so good. She's excellent. Yeah.

Who's the actress that plays the doctor? I don't know. She's so good. She's been, I thought she was incredible. And she's so hot. She's really good. The cast is incredible.

Really good. It's one of those, like, remember when you asked me and Brett, who would you date for, or who could you see each other? Yeah, we didn't air that. Oh, that's hysterical. Well, whatever. The point is, it does make you think about your own life,

like, what other versions of my life are out there? Right. And as somebody who doesn't believe in the one, I believe in many ones. I believe different walks of life. And I wish I could live multiple lifetimes, but you only get one. It is interesting to see which versions of you. But that's why, so as I just mentioned, it's another reason why I like this show so much because it's quantum physics, all these other things, but it's also.

But it also adds in the manifestation stuff too. like he has to write down things and versions that he sees. Specifically in this episode, it was the most powerful to me because once it clicks for him that it's not blank, but it's blank, I was like, of course it is. Like just so. Yeah. And it's like the idea of it and the idea of consciousness,

the idea of all these different things, it's weird out all kind of plays into the, I've really been even more intrigued by that stuff over the course of the last like two or three years, especially the last year covering all the, you know, the UAP stuff and all that stuff too. So it's very interesting. I love the show. It's my favorite show that I think has been out on television so far this year. This year, I don't know what else.

Well, no, no. What was my top show of the? Oh, Shogun. Yeah, I still, um, three, four episodes in. I think I now go Shogun. Yeah. And then this is probably tied with Fallout. Okay.

For me. It might be ahead of Fallout. Honestly, I love Fallout, but this is my jam. See, the reason why I know this is number one for me, obviously for the reasons like you said last week, you probably thought that I would have wrote this show. It's so perfect for you. And I can't miss it.

Like when I knew that it was on last night, that I was like, I didn't know it was online. When my wife and I were looking, because we watched it, we were like, oh, it usually drops like Wednesday morning or whatever it was. And we checked it Tuesday night. It was on. Like, yeah, let's watch it.

and I haven't felt that but any of the show. I want to, and I'm really enjoying Shogun, but clearly I haven't been like, oh my God, I got to do it. I think Shogun for me

has that 360 production value as this one. We do go to different places, but they... A lot of similar locations. A hundred percent. Shogun is way more... Story-wise, I'm as into this

as I was into this, where the story is just like, ooh, let's go. Well, there you go. So let's go, everybody. Check it out. Yeah. What?

Did I miss something else? What the hell? What I miss? What? What did I come here and you're talking to you about? I don't know. Your honor. Oh,

forgot about that. Go ahead, finish. What happened? Sorry, you don't listen to me. Is it on there? Oh, it's not listed. It says 63, 64, 65, 66, and then it just says your honor on it. Oh, that's where I'm at with how many shows I've watched this year.

Oh, that's not my fault. Go ahead, finish. Your Honor. Okay, your honor. So this is the Brian Cranston show. I don't know many people that are watching it. It's on Netflix. They just dropped a season two,

so I have never seen this, so I went back to start watching season one. The premise of this is, just to talk a little bit about the first episode, teenage boy hits a person and hits another kid and kills him. Run flees from the scene. He was having an asthma attack and couldn't breathe. Oh, yes.

So the trailer. Flees from the scene. He comes home, and his dad is a judge. judge that is Brian Krantzman. And then they have decided that they are going to come forward with it. They're not going to cover it up. And then something happens where something's revealed about the kid that they decide,

oh, no, we have to cover this up. And it is about keeping that cover story. Okay. I'm just in season one, episode five in Thralled. But you love it. Yeah. Also, there's no better actor than Brian Kranzs. He's so good.

So it's just like the show is really good. but also it's giving me breaking bad i'm like watching it what's he on it's not like what's it on netflix it's not like bringing bad but he is i'm like oh my god right you are insanely like you're so good i am the one who knocks all right so roxy striar no where can they find you not here i know it's true where can they find you that's sad i'll finish up okay everywhere at roxy strayer and on the big thing. Yes. Just not a year.

You will be. I mean, when are you going to come in? I'm doing a thing right now on my channel, actually. You're not going to think it's cool, but I think it's cool. I'm doing 33 till 33. I'm turning 33 in July 13. Yeah, I'm doing live streams for 33 days in a row, and I'm doing each year, like the best movies, TV shows, music.

91, 92, 93, like so on until we get there. It's been really fun so far. It's just a couple of years in. And then talking about my best life members. memories that year in people's. It's been cool. Yeah, so go and check Roxy out. Go support her over there, and you'll see her here. And, you know, inside of the comments alone, please let us know, what would you rather see? Would you rather see a live version with all those people that I'm talking about?

Would you rather see this show stay the way it is with Steph and Mike stay the way it is? Would you like a combined show? What, say you? What, I'd love to hear your thoughts. You guys are always really good about that, so I want to hear what you think. Thank you to Roxy. Thank you. You guys. Appreciate it. And we'll see you on Monday from the new studio.

It'll be me and Roca on the live episode. And there's tons of other things. You know, actually, I might even have a reaction to House to the Dragon episode one, even before that because it comes out this Sunday. Yeah. And Roxy will probably be talking about that next way. And the Bears coming. Yeah, the boys is coming out today.

They're already out at this point. Bridgeton, the second part of the season. So much. All right. Thanks, guys. See you later. Marks that the pros preferring to preface that you conviening.

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