The Kristian Harloff Show - OUR Top 5 choices on who should play BATMAN in the DCU! | Brave and the Bold

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

Who will be the DCU's new Batman? On today's Capes and Cowls episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, Kristian Harloff, Winston A. Marshall, and Coy Jandreau break down the latest rumors, casting buzz, and big superhero news making waves this week. We start with THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD: 7 Actors Who Could Play The DCU's BATMAN With Robert Pattinson Out Of The Running (Link) — who would YOU cast as the Dark Knight in James Gunn's new DC Universe? Next, we discuss the RUMOR: Sadie Sink's SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY Role Has Been Revealed (Again) And It's No One We Expected (Link), diving into what this means for the future of the Spidey franchise. Marvel fans, we've also got an update on MARVEL ZOMBIES, which just got a new, earlier premiere date, will be very R-rated, and was originally going to be a film (Link). In DC news, James Gunn on Margot Robbie's Potential Return As Harley Quinn; Wants Idris Elba's Bloodsport In The DCU (Link) — will we see these fan-favorite characters back on the big screen? And finally, SUPERMAN Director James Gunn Reveals "Complicated" Reason For The Movie's Early Digital Release (Link). If you love superhero movies, casting speculation, and Marvel/DC updates, this Capes and Cowls episode is packed with discussion you won't want to miss. 📌 Topics Include: THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD: Who could play the DCU's Batman? Superman's early digital release explained CAR GURUS: Buy or sell your next car today with Car Gurus at https://www.cargurus.com to make sure your big deal is the best deal! CASH-APP: For a limited time only, new Cash App customers can use our exclusive code to earn some additional cash. For real. Just download Cash App, use our exclusive referral code KRISTIAN in your profile, send $5 to a friend within 14 days, and you'll get $10 dropped right into your account. Terms apply. That's Money. That's Cash App. 

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provide context. So whether you've worn the uniform or just want to understand those who have, watch, listen, and follow us wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Combat Story. Superman was just released on digital today. Today, yeah, today, holy moly, today. So we'll discuss whether or not it's a good idea, but then it started me, I started thinking about it because you got Peacemaker coming up. And one of the reasons I definitely think

that Superman was released on digital today was to promote that show because it connects into it, right? So then Wonder Woman is already being talked about. So how long is it going to be before we get an announcement of who Batman's going to be. There are some people holding hope still that it's Pat and said. I think you've got to let that go in the DCU. So the questions start to become who's going to play the Batman in the DCU.

It's been a conversation. It's been happening already. And now it's starting to heat up even more. There's been tons of articles about it, talking about it, rumors about who it could be, actors talking about it. So the guys and I were talking and we were like, okay, why don't we put together our top five list each? So we'll have friendly debates.

I can tell you this. We were talking about it off here. Winston and I are pretty much in the same zone. Coy is in a different, he's in a multiverse. He's in an absolutely different plane. But some of his picks I thought were inspired, as the kids say. Other, I think he's out of his mind. And we'll discuss that.

And more on the show here today. We're going to see the guy's face dropping when they hear their goal that they have to catch today. even the capes and cows guy might be in trouble today but we'll see it is capes and cows myself coy jandro winston a marshal let's get this show started guys what do you say me too welcome back days and gentlemen christian harlough show capes and cows on this friday happy to have you guys with us this is going to be a fun show talking about our top five choices as the dc u batman um it's going to be one of the biggest stories i think that's going to be coming out in general and every single time these lists are made and we do this, it's always like,

oh, great to see, like, if anybody on those lists made it. And I think the three of us all had, when the rumors started popping, when initially we didn't know what David Cornswatt was, so I don't think he was on any list. But once they saw the rumors of who was getting, who was in there in contention, all three of us, I think, had this guy in the top two. And I'm curious what we have here today. So joining me on the show, as always, Winston A. Marshall Coy, Gondro. Gentlemen,

how are you? Don't mess with this new COVID, man. I got like three hours of sleep last night. I was sweating profusely and no matter what I did, like I took like three showers

last night. It was bad. Way to start the mood nice and happy. Hey, that's better than like, think about it, though. Batman has multiple times, like, had to go play a Jordan flu game and, like, still fight the Joker while I have the flu. So that's what I'm doing right now. If we're going to talk Batman, I'm just going to have a Batman performance right now. I think we just did it. I mean, it's like one of those shows.

Like, we might get to other stories. It depends on how long the discussion goes because we have all three of us have five picks. And there's some, like, I don't know, mentions. And I also want to read some of the ones. There's the chat is going to be recommending people. I'm sure we're not going to have on the line. list and it'll be interesting to discuss that. So let's just have a full on, you know,

conversation about it here today. There might be some other stuff and maybe we can even start with the reason why I kind of thought we should go into this discussion. And I've heard yesterday I was watching, um, you and Greg on your show, Coy and you guys were discussing and you, it's funny because you were, you're, you were kind of against the fact that Superman came out so early on digital. Yeah. Yeah. So can you, can you, uh,

elaborate a little bit more why you don't think it was a good idea to come out today? You know, I understand that it's because it sets up Peacemaker and, you know, James gone in the DCU wants this to feel like chapters, so you have access to everything before the next chapter, which I love that as a comic fan. I do care more about the theatrical industry than anything other than my family. So like the exhibition industry needs movies that are doing well, and it was still making almost a million dollars a day.

It had some of the best legs I've seen. on a theatrical release since the new post-pandemic era. This movie was holding like, you know, 50% windows, you know, block to block to block week to week. So it was still making money. I think that it was set to make, you know, $650 to $700 million overall if it had its own exclusivity for another like 30 days. I think we need to institute at minimum a 60-day window.

I'd love a 90-day window. And I can respect and appreciate that, you know, VOD is still going to make it some money. I can appreciate that people have a hard time affording movies, but if the theaters are going to stay open longer than this recession we're going into, there need to be things that keep it open exclusively. Like people aren't going to go to the theater if they have the option to watch it at home. So as someone that cares more about the exhibition industry than any studio or any individual or any movie, I want there to be a reason for theaters to exist, which is movies like Superman.

Yeah. I agree with a lot of that. I think that when it comes to a 45-day window, I think that makes sense. I think they should have stuck with that because that's what it was supposed to. That was supposed to be like the end of August, I think, more so than when they wound up doing it. It would have come out of 26. And I think they should have stuck with that, but I get a peacemaker thing. I don't think it will have as much of an effect as you think the drastic numbers of how it's going to hit.

Like you could have hit 650. I don't think with the numbers it was making right now was going to do $6.50. I think if it was lucky, and I think not even lucky, I think 600 is a sure possibility, and I still think it's a possibility, even with those people, because the people that are, I'm not saying you're wrong that there might be some people

who said, oh, you know what, it was going to see in the theater, but I can just watch it at home. I think that definitely will happen. I don't disagree with you. But I also think that it'll also bring in, and you said this, but bring in more cash for the movie of those people who weren't planning and going to theater at all,

and they will watch it. But I don't think the number will have that significant of a drop-off in the theater as you think it will. And I use Five Nights as Freddy's as an example. That is an interesting comp, right? I've been thinking about that. And I, but my thought is that movie day and date, and it still did well. And I love that example.

My concern is more about not just this movie is five weeks out, right? Or four or five weeks out. It's more about the training. Like human beings are pattern-based. and I think we need to potty train humans again. I think a 30-day window for a major release movie is potty training our dog to shit in our lawn. But those are two different. Those are two different conversations, right?

And I'm saying Superman is now an example of a tiny window. I agree. By having a movie of that caliber that big coming out, whether it hurts it or not, it's going to set a precedent, right? Yeah, I'm not saying this would have saved, you know, August for movie theaters. I'm speaking more to the macro of the next five years. I'm with you on that. I agree with you on that. I think that overall, what is it going to mean for the film? You know, it's, I understand why they did it because of the promotion and all that. But Winston, where do you stand on this? I mean, I've always hated the fact that this stuff has been coming out as quickly as it has been. You know, Dan Merle did like a really great. He's been doing his, Dan's world, like, live shows and he did like a pretty interesting breakdown. how like, you know, this was even an argument people were having back with DVDs,

where DVDs coming out too soon and all that. And he brought up some interesting numbers. I kind of came to a different conclusion than he did because he said that he didn't think it was as big of a deal. I didn't watch the full thing I had to cut out. But at first he was like kind of reading it. He was reading that stuff off. And he was initially saying like, yeah, it wasn't, it's not great, but it's not necessarily as bad. I kind of disagree based off of the numbers that he pulled up because you would see that like a majority of the business for a lot of these movies would

end up happening kind of after that 40 or 45 day window and majority of box office? I have to double off the door. Let me see if I can pull like a still of one of the things that he had on there. I can open opening weekend is a majority. Well, I don't know. I understand that but the

I guess the the the majority of it coming in sure but then what I guess the studios are making, I think is what he was implying, because a lot of that, don't you, don't you have to, if you're going to talk about, if you're going to talk about actual profit at that point, because all of that is just trying to get back to your budget and all that kind of stuff and things like that. So you're saying if your break-even point is three weeks out, the fourth and fifth week or when you're profiting as opposed to, I think I see what I was trying to say. I'm a little bit of a brain fog right now. But yeah, I don't love the idea of, pulling it so quickly, and I think specifically what Koi is saying is the point, we were already complaining about how with the streamers and everything else like that, you have gotten to this place where you are training people to not worry about going to the theaters. And I understand that, you know,

theater etiquette is in the toilet. I understand that people have built crazy entertainment centers in their homes, or you have a large family and you don't want to spend that kind of money to go to the theaters. But if the aim is to make bigger box offices, the aim is to get people to go back, dropping digitally this quickly is the worst thing that you could possibly do. It's also an interesting thing about the digital release itself is the digital has more exclusives than the Blu-ray and 4K. So it's not just rewarding the short theatrical window. It's also rewarding not physical media. The director's commentary gag reel and one other thing I forget are digital exclusive. And at the end of the day, like when you get a digital release,

like you're not owning it physically. Like that to me is, is such a crazy idea to not have Blu-ray special features. So it, to me, it's hitting my two biggest industries, which are the theater industry and the physical media industry. So, you know, everyone that's called me a shill the last 17 years, this is me speaking out against a major decision by a studio I'm working with. Yeah, right. Well, no, and I think that I, so where I stand on all the points that kind of were just made more so on the precedent side of it because I don't I don't think that um because I know Winston you the brain's a little foggy today but um but I but I don't I don't think it was talking in circles it was horrible yeah I don't think it has anything you do with the last three or four weeks

of a movie coming out it's like you look you look at when when you're looking at the what it's making I think it's going to say a lot with this weekend coming out the digital release and then we see what how big of a drop it has in the theater and we can then look at it and and say, whoa, that was such a huge drop. Like, yes, we knew it was going to have a drop because it's been out in the theater, but that was such a significant drop. That must have had an effect. I think you can look into that, the analytics and at least make that assessment.

But I do think it's more about the precedent of the idea of like, you got to be 30, 30 days and people are going to start doing that. And it's like, then the theaters, if I'm a theater owner, I'm going, or, you know, one of the AMC or Regal, whoever, I'm going, whoa, guys, please, can we wait just a little bit, let us have a little bit more of a run? or maybe they're also like let's shuffle more in it's it's a crazy business right now it really i just sent you i just sent you a screenshot uh emailed it to you because i figured it'd be easier to load it in of dan's research this is one of the the things that was on there just to read

it off here you know he mentions that superman released um on digital after 35 days uh comparable performances prior to 2020 aquaman 92.3% of theatrical gross after 35 days a vendors end game 94. point one percent of theatrical growth after 35 days and man of steel 97.3 percent of theatrical gross after 35 days is according to dan's numbers. Remember though they're also not but you guys are also talking as if they're pulling it out of theaters they're not they're not pulling out of theater. The idea that the people are still going to necessarily go if you're not like a hardcore Superman fan now that it is on digital is crazy.

Maybe unless people want to go and see them the theater but I think that one of the things that it's going to do, it's going to keep families out of the theater for sure. Like for people who are just like, okay, look, I was thinking about taking the family to go see Superman, we wanted to see them. Oh, instead of paying, you know, $15, $12 a person and with all the snacks, I can order a pizza and then pay $25 to just watch it with everybody. Yeah, I'll do that. I got a good enough TV.

A good sound. So anyway, it's a big enough conversation and we're going to keep having it. And we'll see what the numbers is next week. What say you guys? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know, should Superman be coming out today? And speaking of which, you're going to be doing a reaction with Sam. And I was going to, today I was going to do a,

there's a couple of things. So I let you guys know what's going on. Lord of the Rings, it dropped the non-edited version dropped today for members and patrons. Where's the edited version? I was supposed to come out today. I mentioned this on the show yesterday. There was kind of like, there was a miscommunication between the wonderful, incredible, editing team and myself and um they're going to have it done by tomorrow so we'll have that out tomorrow

for you guys monday i did the first two episodes of alien earth that will hit on monday and then tuesday sam's coming in on monday we're going to react to superman and put that out on tuesday so then lord of the rings will be the following friday for tower so we're just this is one that she really wants to see she loved the trailer and so just letting you guys know the schedule overall um okay so we're going to do this big conversation on Batman in a moment here. And I don't want to disrupt it. And I don't want you guys. I want it to be kind of free flowing. I want everything to just kind of go. I don't want to stop. I want to have the conversation. But I also need to tell you guys about, I've been telling you all week. And hopefully, hopefully you guys at this point when I'm telling you about

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After we give our five list, They did seven actors. So we'll do our list. And then we'll go over their list and see who they had. So I also want to let you guys know, as we always do. You guys, I think you guys won last week because of Sam. And we mentioned that on the, we mentioned that on the live show. We did the live show in New York.

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This week's going to be tough. You want to take a guess on what you're looking at based on what you were talking about at the start of the show and the setup I'm my guess it's like 200 something I'm gonna say 207 It is 177 You want to say who you want to see who's in the lead? I'm gonna assume it is Roxy and Sam showed up Chris Carr by her lonesome Wow the audience said it's

time for Chris Carter being the driver's seat, but he never count out the capes, guys. So let's see what we can do. 15 already before we even got into the Batman conversation. There's going to be tons, I think, of questions coming in about Batman. So let's see, let's do it. All right. I'll start my list, and I'll give you guys my top five on who I think would be good Batman. There are some honorable mentions.

There are other people that are on lists that I would be totally up for, would love to see it. These are just people that I thought could be interesting as Batman. The first, Joel Edgerton is somebody I thought would be really. Again, I know this goes back and forth of what kind of, what age are they looking for with Batman? Are they going younger? Are they going older? Like, he's right in the mid. I think he's like, I think he's in his early to mid-40s, I think.

The guy is a tremendous actor. he is to me someone that's such a ring i just love dark matter i thought it was so great what he did in that one um he brings a motion to it he could pull off both the bruce wayne and then the dark kind of brooding thing he's just a tremendous actor so he's my five i think so we do should we go through all five and then talk about the list afterwards because we because there's all three of us or should we do one by one it's up to you guys i think all of our fifth all over four solver third that way it's like a yeah i agree with you all right so he's my number five um number four is gonna i think shock people that i have him so high or or you on the list at

at number um four i just have to find the picture but as soon as i do uh here it is Alan rich now i've been pretty vocal that i don't think i think he's too big to play back Batman. Well, then I started doing images searches of people as Batman. I'm like, holy shit, he looks like Batman. I was like he there's there's one particular picture and I think it's this one. It's this one. This is the one that I saw that I said the one on the left that that's from Reacher. I know that's Batman. I know that's Ben Affleck on the right by the way. And the reason why it's also because you see the size Ben Affleck was at that time. But that's shot with him as Reacher on the left. I almost picture him talking to Clark and having a debate with him about why they should be

or shouldn't be doing something. It would be a big Batman. It would be a different type of Batman. It would be bigger than Superman Batman, but I'm starting to come around on it a little bit more than I was previously. I was pretty adamant against it. The third for me, and again, forgive me on the slowness. I mean, bringing this up right now, it's just I, we, we've got the list in a little, little late, so it's hard for me to pull all these images in time. But the third is Josh Hardin. Josh Hartnett to me has had kind of a comeback and has been really showing how solid of an actor he is. And I think that what he would be able to do in this role,

I think he'd definitely be able to pull off Bruce. I think that, to see we've seen that darker side of him i know that both him and i think eduterton have been rumored for batman villains but i'd like to see i think as a hero because he's been playing some kind of darker sinister characters recently i'd like to see what he can do overall uh as batman so he's my he's my number uh my number three now number two for me is jensen eccles now what jensen was able to do in the boys that won me over. And he definitely has the look of Bruce Wayne. And he definitely, and after seeing the boys and what he can do,

the boys, I have no doubt that he can pull off the Batman side of it. I think that he is also riddled by the, in the same way that, and Winston has come around, obviously on Patinson, but when we had that conversation years ago about Patinson and right away, not to win and that Winston wasn't the only person to do this. There were tons of other people who said the Twilight kid. I think he gets the supernatural guy. And I think for me, he's going to, he's, he, he can pull this off.

I think there's no doubt that he can pull this off. So I'm curious to see if, if he's going to get a shot, because I know he's also got boys spin-offs and everything. Number one is going to be, everyone knows my number one. Brendan Scenar. I was talking about Coy, Coy, a spoiler for CORE. You're not going to see this guy on Coy's list. And I think one of the reasons, if you don't, you probably, a lot of people I think are getting,

but who is this guy? I don't know who he is. I don't think a lot of people, enough people saw 1923. Winston, I know, watched Drop. And I'll let him talk about what he thought of Oskinear after seeing that. I know we discussed it on the show last week, but it's the 1923 stuff that shows the range of everything that Bruce Wayne and Batman could be. Um, he's got that, and I will say this, though, there was a, if there was, who, if someone was like, what do you think he'd be better as Indiana Jones or Batman? I'd probably see Indiana Jones, but I still think he could pull off Batman. Um, I think he is going to be a major star. And I think they're just waiting to put him in the right role. He's been circling a lot of Warner Brothers projects. And he's been pretty vocal about it. So those are my top five. Um, we, like I said, there's some choices that we will.

all agree with. There's some choices that you won't agree with at all. Coy, my list stink. What do you think? No, actually, I like a lot of your list. It's definitely... Oh, where'd you go? I'll say, wait, wait, hold on.

There you go. I like your reasoning behind your people. It's very different than mine, but there's no one there. You know, Brendan Scler is the one I've seen the least of. But there's no one there that I'd be upset by. But it is a very different list than mine. I think we have one shared person. Um, okay.

One shared person. Perfect. Winston? We share a lot of the same. We share a lot. I think they're in just different positions, but I think for the most part looks like, uh, it could be there. But I think is there anybody that stands out, um,

so I guess, Koi, I guess the one thing we would say for you is, um, is there, and I guess I know the answer. Is there anybody in that list that they were cast as Batman? You're like, well, you're really going to have to win me over here. I think I would have to start watching Brendan Sclanar's stuff. I don't see, I don't see him as, like when I think of Batman, I don't see that. Alan Richardson's probably the second most dubious just because I don't see Bruce Wayne as being a Hulk.

You're great, right, right. I get it. I, you know, I think he's a great actor. I'm really impressed whether he's done with Reacher. I think the plausible deniability is a little harder because even in Superman, they made sure to have oversized stuff and kind of frumpy look on Clark Kent, so he looked boyish and a little bit more unkempt. But Bruce Wayne has to be like regal and poised and those clothes would fit. And that dude is a tank.

So I see him as more of a saber tooth or colossus. Like, you know, he's a big boy. But, you know, there is an element of the Justice League tone that this Batman would be in that would allow him to be so oversized, right? Because if you're going at Pattinson as the detective and this character as someone that would be in a world where crypto is, you could have a bigger Bruce Wayne in that world. And that's kind of the power of the DCU is it is more fantastical. So I think now that I've seen Superman, I actually like the Richardson choice more because of tone. But I still think when I see Bruce Wayne,

I'd be like, but that's Batman. He's 100%. The thing is that he wasn't, he wasn't on my first list when I made it this morning. He wasn't on my list. And he jumped into the four spot or whatever was but like my my number he was he he was in the honorable mentions at first um because i also had i liked gregg's choice of josh brolin the problem is again i don't know where they're going with and brolin's like almost 60 years old or wherever he is yeah brolin is your your one or dark night returns batman yeah it's like it's like 10 15 years ago i think perfect choice for batman his voices look everything perfect i just think i think i think he's he's I think he will not commit to that.

I just don't think he's going to want to do. The same reason you didn't, you know, you don't want to commit to Leonard. So I just, I was like, I don't know. Yeah,

would he be great? Sure. Depending on how they did it almost like a like a Logan type of Batman, what they were going to do. Yeah. So I was like, nah, I'm not going to put him on there because I just don't know how realistic that is.

Um, and then the other one, was kind of in the same camp, Richon, but not as big, but tall was Alexander Scarsgard. was someone who I thought of who I thought could be interesting. Then I'd love to see Bill as Joker and just play.

That's what I was going to say. I was going to say the two of them doing that. But what did you think of the Joel Edgerton pick? I do. You know, I love Joel Edgerton. I've never thought of it. I've never considered him because I just didn't put two and two together. But between Warrior and the gift and obviously you mentioned his show on Apple,

I think Joel Edgerton is one of the more slept on actors of his whole generation. Like I think that dude is a powerhouse that hasn't gotten that big, big, roll yet. I'd love to see him get an opportunity to be a household name because I think he's deserved it. I just, the only thing, I just checking real quick, I didn't realize how old he was though. He's 51.

Yeah, but I mean, again, like he's, but he's in decent shape and it depends. 51's not that. I mean, depending on what age you're going with. No, no, I understand. I'm not, I'm not knocking that, you know, or anything like that, but I mean, if you're doing it for 10 years and Batman just being pretty physically

demanding, that's the only thing that I was thinking as far as like if he's 51 now you're talking about you're going to be in your 60s kind of to wrap this up yeah well i mean again depends on it depends on what type of batman you're looking at if you're looking for an older batman to start if you're looking for a younger one i mean it it just depends but um all right so you know because winston's is a little bit more on my uh i think that we're closer uh in list so why don't we we'll bring up some of the same ones but i think they're in different order i'm not sure yeah different order um i could say honorable mentions, you know, I would love to see Winston Duke, but, you know, you don't even want to open

that can of worms of how people will bitch and moan about that, about race swapping Batman and all that kind of stuff. Also honorable mention Ansel Elgort, except for the fact that, you know, all the drama that he's had and the stuff that's been going on legally and all that, I think immediately out the window for all of that. My number five would be Paul Giammati. Paul Giamatti, perfect. Just, just kidding. Theo James. Yeah, I got to find that one. Yeah, hold on.

It's going to me a second. I'll find it somewhere. I thought I had him. Wait, I got him. Wait, do I? I can't tell us, well, I'll bring the image. Yeah, so, no, just Theo James. I mean, like, you know, I feel like he'd never truly got a chance to, to full-blown relaunch.

Like, he had, like, a bunch of, like, other good stuff. But, like, we saw that he can do. I forgot that he was in an episode of the Witcher, of the Witcher. but like we saw that he can do the action stuff when he was in the divergent series even though that series and that of not being super great he did a good job so i know that he can bring that action element to it and i think he gives like that's a perfect photo to pull of him where it gives you that kind of rich rich boy kind of can play the classy element but then again with the action experience from the divergent series he can definitely make that happen number four alan richon um I mean, pretty much everything that Christian said previously. And I've been a pretty big fan of his career. I've been watching him since Blue Mountain State way, way back. And so I'm just very aware of, you know, all the stuff that he can bring to various roles and whatnot.

So I think that he would do a fantastic job. And there's something to me about, you know, Superman is a metahuman. So the idea of him being super strong but not looking crazy jacked Kind of makes sense that then a regular human would go out of their way to be as jacked as possible to try and keep up With people like Superman and Wonder Woman, etc etc Or three Richard Madden

For number three Obviously we know him from Game of Thrones We know him from Eternals He's got that serious element especially like what he did with Icarus. We know that he can definitely bring the seriousness and things like that. So I just think he's got a lot of solid experience and just has the look, like very much just looks like Bruce Wayne. So that really works for me. I mean, even though Pattinson did a fantastic job, I still think that under the mask looks great. As Bruce looked a little

to emo at times for me, and I think this gives a little bit more of a kind of a classy element with Richard. Number two, Brendan Sclanar. You know, I am not crazy familiar with all of his work, but just from seeing drop. That was actually all I needed. I was very impressed with the kind of aura that he gives off.

So I'll have to go back and check out 1923, but the work he did in drop was enough. And I was like, yeah, now this dude can definitely do it. And then my number one, Jensen Eccles. I, what he did with the boys, as Christian mentioned previously, the fact that he's already voiced Batman in the most recent animated run of the Justice League, the crisis on infinite

earths and all that kind of stuff. I think he would just absolutely crush the role. And he is my top choice to pull this off. And like Christian said, by the nature of what we did with Robert Pattinson and how Pattinson actually pulled it off, I think we have to get out of this mindset of the supernatural guy like you mentioned oh the twilight guy we just need to give people a shot and and look at their full run of their career and not just one little element of it my favorite choice you're mona fucking batman exactly why it went back on there um that's a good i mean look it's a good list as i said

we we were pretty we were pretty close um your your fifth one theo jeems was brought up a couple times yesterday and this is for me having to as you said with sclnor and the same thing with what Coise was Sclnar going back and watching a little bit more. I need to watch more with Theo James because I know him from the first time I ever heard about him. He was on a show with Bonnie. They did a Golden Boy together. And he was just kind of like kind of one note. Apparently he's great in The Gentleman.

And I have not seen that TV show. But apparently he's great and he carries off that charisma. So that's something that I probably have to revisit to see in order to go, yeah, yeah, I could see it. Because I don't see it right now. But that doesn't mean you just got to get more acclimated with his work. you know so um so yeah i like i like i like the you know a lot of people who've been going after that one too so i i would check that out uh we're both on the same page kind of with allan rich and richard madden's interesting too um i like richard madden but he's another one i guess yeah i mean

he can do that very serious thing and can he could he pull off the the playboy aspect of it i i feel i think so because because i when i think of the playboy i element of it I it the funny thing is is like I think one he was in Cinderella so he knows kind of how to be charming but then the other thing that kind of sticks out is in Game of Thrones the whole him running off we're trying to run off with that I can't remember the character's name but that led to the red wedding the the the love elements in all of that I thought were just really really spot on so I definitely think he can he can hold that down and

give that charming kind of element to it because Bruce, Bruce doesn't always just use his Bruce persona as a cover. There are definitely times where he spills out more into that and is more genuine and genuinely falls in love with people and the stuff like that. I could see a moment if we're getting Damien that, yes, it's still Batman, but that the Damien or that the Bruce kind of comes out with Talia at some point or another because you, you know, how else would you have made this child? So what do you think, Quay, I mean, a lot of the same choices, but there were some different ones, the two different ones. What did you think?

I think Richard Madden is definitely the right type. I haven't seen enough of his work. You know, I liked him in Eternals and I, I've only seen a little bit of Game of Thrones, what I've seen, he's good. He's one of those actors that has that like old money face. And I think that's important, just that air of like aristocracy. The wanes are such a legacy. And I think Christian Bale had that in a really great way where he just had that. regality so richard madden i think is a great pull for that what was the other new name um what was the other new name eagles schanar madson allen richson and theo james oh theo james is my number five all right so why don't we it was he your five i don't think he was no he wasn't your five oh why is this keep doing that hold on i don't know that's that it just went away so that's that that's switched over and then now your thing is gone oh perfect all right let's see so let's see we'll start with that and hopefully Winston's lower third will come back I'll go with my number five which is his number one which is okay ready yep jensen Ackles is my number five uh you know I

really like any of my top five I think any of them would be great but I think jensenackles has something the rest of my names don't have which is this dude is a con fiend he loves the people. He loves the fans. So in addition to everything that Winston said, you know, he has voiced Batman. He's got the presence. He's got the aristocracy. He's got the energy. He's certainly got the physicality. We've seen in the boys. We've seen all those things. I love how much David Cornswet is Superman, right? Like I love that the dude just embodies it. What I love about Jensen Ackles is he's not like a brooding monster. He's not actually like Bruce Wayne Batman, but he gets the fandom. Like that guy will be at cons signing stuff. He'll be everywhere to meet the

people, he's part of the fandom in a real way. So I think that edges him out above any of my honorable mention. Like number five is the acting that he can do his persona as an actor, but also how much he loves the fans. Number five, Jensen, Alex. Okay. So he, that's, that's one of the similar. This, this one coming up here, nobody had on the list except you. It is. Number four is Milo Ventimilia. I think this dude is a super slept on actor. I think there's a reason he played the son of Stallone all those years ago. I think there's a reason he got hella Emmy Nams for basically being a paternal powerhouse. And This Is Us, which I think is going to be very important for the Damian Wayne element of the show.

Dealing with a troubled kid while being a Cape Crusader, I feel like Milo is uniquely poised that. The dude looks good, like long flowing trench coats. He's got that air of not just old money, but also like he's been in a scrap. and I think that what I like about Milo is he's got the dad element, the scrappy element, the aristocracy element, but he's also like such a good actor. I could see him playing the brokenness of Bruce. Like Bruce Wayne is a mentally ill man. Like he's got a lot wrong and he's navigating that.

I think Milo could crush that. And I think that he's just not appreciated enough with an actor. So I have put him in here. All right. So the next one after that. Number three is my dark horse pick. This is a dude. I want to get way more work.

Alden Aaron Reich. Alden reminds me of Bruce Wayne Batman. This is more of a personal pick because I've known Alden for almost a decade. And every time he is quiet or just like looking off, I'm like, that's Bruce Wayne. Like he's got this brooding and this contemplativeness and this ability to just be so present in a dark way. Like the guy just has this insane presence to me. I haven't gotten to see him play the Bruce Wayne type, except for in that clip, you just had that Hail Caesar, which is comedic.

I wouldn't want a comedic Bruce. I wouldn't want us laughing at Bruce. But I think as far as the Batman elements, I've seen him play that in so many ways and so many times. If he could pull off a womanizing bravado that wasn't comedic, I think he'd be perfect for both. I haven't seen it. But I've seen him be Batman.

I've seen him have that brooding. I've seen him have that charisma. And anytime he's in a movie, he's the best part of that thing. Like, I think any scene in Ironheart, he elevates everything the other performer is doing. I think any scene in Hail Caesar, he did laps around like the cast that had George Clooney and Channing Tatum in it. So I think he'd really elevate a project and nobody's talking about him. He's a little short, but, you know, so is Tom Hardy. So Alden Aaron Wright.

All right. Number two. Number two is Theo James. That's where I thought I had Theo. It's actually higher up because of the gentleman. This dude is old money swag. this dude is a voice that rumbles and resonates and brings a lot of conviction and energy. This is a man who actually seems like he might have a double identity because he's just so

effortlessly cool. I think he actually has the most of the elements you'd need to be a DCU Batman, which is like he's kind of cartoonishly handsome, cartoonishly debonair, cartoonishly gravelly voiced in a way that feels like, I'm Batman. And all of that in a way that feels like it's almost a put on because of how nice he seems in interviews. Like it seems like he's putting on this like, I'm old money charm because he seems like just a great dude.

And I think that he'd be able to bulk up. He's on the younger side out of these picks. My parents had me at 16. So I'm about to be the age I was when I moved to L.A. at 21, like now, like my old ass. So I think he'd be a good age for a 15-year-old Damian Wayne, and I just buy him as Batman. I like Theo James a lot in this role. All right, your number one.

I think we know it. The dude I've wanted from the beginning, the guy I've wanted for the last four Batman's, Jakey Jolk's, Jake Jelenhall. Jake Jelenhall, to me, is everything you need in a movie star. He is versatile. He is capable of carrying an above-the-line billing. He is capable of being dark and brooding, but also charismatic.

He is capable of being a man that is, unwell, look at nightcrawler, or someone who is able to lead people and carry basically a team behind him, look at most of his work, or he's able to be someone who's so dark and broken, you worry about their mental health, look at prisoners. So if you put Prisoners and Nightcrawler and something like Love and Other Drugs together, that's your resume. Like, love and other drugs is Bruce Wayne. Prisoners is Batman when he's talking to Alfred and trying to figure out who he is. Nightcrawler is who this man needs to be when he's in the cowl.

Like the man has played Batman. I just need him to play Batman. And I think there's a reason he's auditioned so many times. And he looks like Bruce Wayne. He looks like Batman. He's the right age for a 15-year-old. Jake Gyllenhaal, it's easy. Okay.

So, yeah, there's a, I mean, what I like, it's a different picks, different people to talk about for sure. It's not everyone's fan cast list that we see yet on the Landerth. Well, let's start with Jillenhall. I love Jake Gyllenhaal. I think Jake Gyllenhaal is a tremendous actor and does everything that you just said. There's two problems with Jake Gyllenha. One, you're going to see, you're going to look up at Batman and you go, oh, look at Jake

Gyllenhaal playing Batman. That's pretty much. That's exactly. Part two. What do we keep talking about on these movies, these new, they need to cut costs. You ain't cut in cost with Jake Gyllenhaal as Batman. You're going to spend a lot of money to have Jake Gyllenhaal as Batman because you're going to need him for years on.

Look at David Cornswood made $750,000. You ain't paying $750,000 of Jake Gyllenha. But not only that, like, because I'm much smaller star, relatively speaking, just because of the age of their career, your Lex Luthor made $2 million. And so you know Jake is going to be garnering at least eight to 10. Easy. Easy per movie. Like that's easy.

I would say to those two points, one, Jake Jelen Hall is going to, like, Batman is always going to make a ton of money. It's more of a guarantee versus a. a new take on a character that hasn't done as well theatrically. And two, I think Christian Bale was was fairly recognizable and Pattinson certainly is. So I think they cast more recognizable for Batman than, they did.

They did. But now, but now with the amount of money that you need to cut and you're going to spend on, you think so, because if you get a lesser known actor, right, or someone who doesn't get big paychecks, they're not going to get extra money because it's Batman.

They're not, whether it's, because Superman's still $200 million move, the agent's still going to say, hey, yeah, it's a Superman. And it's $200 million. I don't care. Who's he? Who's David Corinswet? You're going to get $750,000 and you're going to shut your ass and you'll make more in the sequel. And that's it. And that's what, Brendan Scunar, same thing.

It doesn't matter how much we say, oh, hey, guys, great, good. It's been in shit. Paying $500,000, put the mask on, shut your ass, you make more in part two. I think, I think, Sclinar could probably, would probably end up garnering the same as cornswweather in about $750, maybe a million just because he's been around a little bit more than him but but that but a but a million is is still feasible like that that an extra 250 000 isn't that big of a deal right but that's what i would argue this is batman we're not going black friday shopping like i don't think we need to be looking for a price tag as the number one thing i think it's in the conversation but it's not like we're going

oh but either we all agree that we all agree that regardless jake jillan hall is going to elevate we all agree that jillen all's changing that budget so so so if you know if this is jake jillan hall in, you know, you can get him in 2003. Yes. This is right after Doni Darko, it's a different price. Right now with these, as far as could he pull it off, there's no argument. There's no argument. Of course he could.

The other one, we've talked about Theo James for sure. The two that I think, again, you pick them for, and I love your reasoning for him. I just don't see them as Batman at all. The one is Alden Aaron Reich. I think, and I will say everyone on your list, I'm a big fan of all of everyone on your list. actor. Alden to me, and I said this about solo the other day, one of the reasons I don't think Alden Aaron Reich worked as Han Solo, because his version of Han Solo wasn't cool. Alden Aron Rake is a great actor, a majority of his roles. He's just not cool. The character's not cool. He doesn't pull off cool. Batman's got to be cool. Bruce Wayne's got to be cool. He doesn't do that. He was good in Iron wasn't cool. It's kind of a, you know, schmucky kind of dude. Very consciously, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I've never seen that of him. And I don't know if that is.

a thing. I don't know if he has that like instrument in his tools, but if he did to me, like he's already Batman. But I think they tested him with that solo and he didn't pull off cool. He didn't have that swagger. That's fair. He got completely washed by tunnel club.

100%. He's the coolest guy in the universe. Cool. Right. Landau was always cool. Right. He wasn't that much cooler than honk. He was cool. Because if you go to, if you go to Empire, it's you're looking at Billy D. and you're looking at Harrison Ford,

and it's pretty equal. And it almost feels like white, cool, black, cool, equal footing for the two of them. It was not in solo. It's solo Donald Glover up here and homie down here. That's also because of them as people. Like Donald Glover walks into a room, you're like, that's a cool dude.

Alden, you're like, I want to hang out with that guy, and let's just shoot the shit and, you know, whatever it is, too. He's not cool. So I don't think he works as Batman. And then the other one is interesting one, is myel right my oh my oh's actually been asked i as i was doing the research on this for your

pick he's been asked to audition for batman he's been really yeah you look there has been been he and he said something like he didn't want to do it for some reason or he said at the time he was told he was too old now he's told that he's the perfect age but doesn't and you know the thing is and i and i hate doing this i hate saying this is just i think he's like five eight you know and he's so easy he looks good in huge notes i assumed he's tall he's like five five nine now is that is that a game changer no but it's it's a struggle it's a struggle um so and i don't and i don't think he he could pull off cool uh milo but only he pulls off tough i i don't because even rain because you brought up rocky which he's great and rocky and heroes but he's not a

tough guy in rocky i think he's tough right this is us like he squares off of people in this yeah he He does, but if I'm pulling anybody from this as us, I'm actually pulling Justin Hartley, that more so than Milo to be to be Batman. And I wouldn't necessarily personally pull either one. I get what you're saying. And I am very, I'm a big fan of Milo's work.

But I don't know, like, he's, he doesn't really give, like I know he was the lead in heroes back in the day, but he's just not giving me, like kind of Batman, Justice League like squaring off with the Joker and Darkside vibes it's just not it's not there for me personally but I I respect the pick I think I think he's a good actor but it's just not it's not my there's no one on your list that's not a good actor yeah so I'm so

interested now to see now here's the other thing that we have is that there is a list that comic book movie did yeah I'm curious if there's any of ours I think there's quite a few actually um but let's let's see what they have here um brave in the bolt seven actors who could play dc u's the batman um and we start here let's see Robert Pattinson out of the running is what they say Richard Madden number seven so that's what um so Winston had that one on his list okay uh six they have brand every and sklanar pretty low down there but they have them on their yeah in the number six um five taren egerton he is shorter than my lo no dude he's he is wolverine he is a thousand percent wolverine is i love taren he's a talent but he's

shorter than me is he yeah i think like five six seven no way i'm gonna say he's five nine i think the internet's gonna say he's five nine because everyone five seven is five nine in the internet they say they it says he's five nine says he's five nine um okay so either way. I don't think does anybody here see him has Batman? I see him as a lot of things, but not Batman. I don't see him. I love him, but Luke Evans. Nah, absolutely not. Nah, he'd be a villain or something. I don't see. Luke, no, that to me, that's, that's the most disputed pick on everybody here today. I like Luke Evans, but no, Luke Evans might be one of the most underrated talent. He's really good, but no,

that, that's me is, that's not a good choice. Winston Duke is, as Winston brought up here too. So Winston Duke, but he already played, oh, he says Marvel in the DC. Okay. And then two, Lee Pace. I don't like that pick. I don't like that pick. I don't, I'm not a big, who, who, is this Josh Wiling? Who did this list?

Check the tape. Yeah, I don't, I love Josh Wadling. I don't like this list. Lee Pace and the number one, Jensen. Okay, so Jensen Ackles, I think is. We agree with two of seven. Two of seven. Two of seven.

Yeah, there were a lot of. Oh. shit somebody somebody sending a super chat saying Jamie Dornan. Well, don't waste it. Well, we'll get to the whole thing later, but I, that just seemed like a good choice.

We're still here. Yeah. Okay, so Lee Pace is not, not anyone, no, that, you, Coy's got a better chance of getting cast up that on you. No, Lee Pace is the exact,

wrong choice in mind he's a good actor but that that not for this no and i like the tarrant agent and i i agree with you winson duke great actor you're just it's one of those things though that you just you the whole thing's going to be you know it's going to turn into a whole which which sucks which sucks because that that's a situation where like truthfully seeing his acting ability um and because of his size again like the the better conversation would be the one you're having about Alan Richson and being like, is he too big? If that was the conversation that was going to be had around it,

I would hear that argument all day. But we already know exactly what it would be, is that it would immediately become, Oh, you have a white panther. Me, me, me, me, me, me. Like, so as much as I would love to see it, and his vocal, his VO of Batman was also phenomenal. That's why I put it as an honorable mention and left it at that.

It's funny, Winston, my actual pick. from This Is Us Outside of Milo, but not for Batman. Before we had our Superman cast, I wanted Sterling K. Brown as Superman so bad. Because that dude, like, puts on glasses, and he's Clark Kent, and he takes them off, and he's Superbad. Like, that dude transforms, and he's so yoked. I mean, he would also be a fantastic Bruce Wade and Batman switch as well.

Just thinking in terms of, like, God, what is the name of that show that came out on Hulu? Paradise. Yes. Dude, he's such a superhero actor. and then like they did not utilize him well in Black Panther like it was like a one-off like I want way more Sterling K. Brown so the DCU pick him up all right so that's our overall list or listen that's comic book movies overall list what do you guys think about it what do you make of it do you like our list who's list out of the three do you line up with the most do you have your own list put your in here's the deal in the whether it's in the live the replay or on the clips channel put your top five. And if you think that they're going to choose,

you know, if you're confident, you think that that person can do it, why can they do it? Let's start on, excuse me, a good conversation. Okay.

So we're going to get to some questions now. And before we do it, I want to know what's going on on the channels. Start Winston. Winston, what's going on your channel, man? It was been a little quiet this week

just because of the sickness, but my rally out of the theater reaction should be out after the show is over. I just need to cut out my thumbnail. Other than that, next week, provided that I am back and fit as a fiddle, then I will be back with a blurred breakdown on Monday. I'll be over with Roka on Tuesday for spill the tequila,

back here next Friday. So just check it out at the Swaggy Blurr on all platforms, YouTube, Twitch, and everything else. Corey Jondro. I finally got a microphone, very excited about it. I thought we now have Mike and Light. We're building the studio. Check me out on YouTube. My page. I'm doing a live stream later today with my favorite comics of this week. I had enough time to finally read this week's book. So I'm all caught up. So I'm going to do a breakdown of my favorite comics the week. But I'm also covering both peacemakers starting on 21st and Alien Earth every single week on Friday. So nobody two just came out. My nobody two review is up right now. And two weeks caught stealing comes out, which is my big movie of the fall. So movie reviews, TV reviews, comic reviews. And then you can find me on DC high volume every few Wednesdays and every, um, every, other Friday DC Studio Showcase, new episode drops today.

You can find me almost every single day on the real rejects and twice a month on podcast, podcast and doing interviews to the Hollywood Reporter for their red cards. Your mic for some reason did the setting go off? Did it stop working? You just need to keep it closer to you. I'll hold it right here. I just, I plugged it in for you guys.

This is the first use. Oh, there you go. Yeah, that's the sweet spot. You need to. Oh, I'll just do. I'll hold it like a newsman. Well, there you go. Um, okay, let's see.

Now we're going to get to some questions. Let. Do it. All right. So first one we got is from Farty Supreme. What's a Farty Supreme? Um, I was for Skunar, but I changed to Nate Mann. Look him up.

Looks exactly like Batman and sounds like Kevin Conroy. Julia R. trained. Also, please know Jensen. Why no Jensen? Because he's a supernatural guy. that's did you i'm curious but i don't know name i have no idea man i'm not familiar that's him but your game mate man yeah i don't know enough about him do you know anything about him coy i've never seen that man in my life well there you go uh he was in licorice pizza i guess oh okay i don't

remember him that i like that movie erwin derlix came and you remember good time on edited lord of the rings it's up there now did you guys um oh coy you said you saw alien earth episode one and two, right? Oh, dude. I've seen the first four and it's, it's, uh, I think the studio is my show of the year. Um, but if, if alien earth like sticks the landing, it's probably a close second. And you know how much I love the studio. Yes, pretty solid. Zeus Fleming became a YouTube member. Thank you, Zeus. Sean McCabe. What's up? Sean. Happy Friday, Capes and Cows. Ackles for Batman. There you go. Um, Connor Mullis, Corp. Kier and Wilson. Yes, they're here. Okay. Next one here. Connor Mullis. I got absolutely obliterated.

front row at a deaf leopard concert last night that's so good so worth it still wow that's that i love that for you you too i love this text from 9778 82 and not 2025 this deaf leopard's fucking message yeah um i didn't know they still toured that's awesome yeah i was the first concert i was deaf leopard and uh brian adams first concert ever went to my life spitter swallow 69 oh that's that's nice uh superman's profit will mostly come from a merch bump also very very true I mean, that's, that's going to be all, I was just going to say that's, that's going to be typically of vast majority of all superhero stuff, though. That's, that's, that's, it's always about selling toys, man.

And, and, and, and, uh, capes and crypto stuff, plushies and all that kind of stuff. But, uh, but, but, but the box office is still important. Like, if the movie doesn't do well, you're not selling anything. I think that's an interesting conversation of movie math. We don't talk about enough is the whole of it, like, and all the ads. in movie like there's so many times you see like they fly by a billboard like that's a factor in cost uh go pal i agree with dan that is not going to hurt warner brothers because the movies get 90 plus in the first 30 to 45 days and they get bigger cut from vod okay i don't think it's 90%

like that seems great i don't think it's going to hurt Warner brothers at all um it's i don't think that's the argument coy was making that it's going to hurt Warner Brothers it's more so it's going to hurt theaters yeah and i you know i love me some super man, but I love me. It's movies. But nobody does switch course that hurts the theater. Go, pal. Same page, go, pal. Same page. He follows it up. WB. You'll get 80% VOD versus 50%

from the theater, minus I think that is a factor, right? These movies, as they're slowing, it is putting them on VOD for that last little surge. I just think 32 days or whatever was. It's still a little tune.

Dana, but do you think digital and physical should be released on the same day? Call me an old fashion but I do well here's the difference right is that I mean I guess not because you're still paying that that same price but you might as well own it you might as well own it if you can't only old fashion I think physical should be first I think that they feel it they should drop at the same time am I like if you're gonna the I understand what's going on the you should not be able to buy it early if you want to say that the rental thing that they're doing fine if you want to do a rental earlier you

could, but I think you should be able to own it digitally the same time you own it physically. And it wasn't that long ago. That was the case. Yeah. As Roe 24, my picks for Batman. Jesse Plymonds. Jesse Plymouth. No, no, no, no, no.

Very good actor, but new. Yeah. I would love to see him as scarecrow. My perfect day has sand, saltwater, and friends. But my moderate to severe plexeriasis can take me out of the moment. Now I'm all in with clearer skin thanks to Sky Rizzi. Rizzen Kizum at Rizza, a prescription only 150 milligram injection for adults who are candidates for systemic or phototherapy. With Sky Rizzi, most people saw 90% clearer skin and many were even 100% plaque-free at four months.

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I like that. Winston Duke and Josh Hartnett as an older Batman. Kerry would be interesting because the question is could he pull it off? I love he has a little young. I see him as more of a Robin. I think it would be an excellent variety. He would be a really good. I could actually see him pull off like a Dick Grayson. Well, you guys brought it up on the show yesterday.

I guess the rumor was that he was up for Harry Osborne. He's a perfect Harry Osborne. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kerry's interesting. The question is, because he's the kind of guy that's like,

okay, well, he is cool. Joe Kerry's cool. I'd like to see what he can do. I take it back. Jesse Plymonds, not scarecrow.

Jesse Plymonds will play a great Hugo Strange, Coy. Yeah, he'd be great villain. He doesn't, he doesn't have to look for Batman. Mad Sinister McAll,

you have to get rid of one franchise, either alien or predator, which one and why. I say alien goes. The first movie is great, but the rest is overrated. The only reason I'm keeping predator. The only reason, because I think Alien has had a much better run.

And I think Alien has had, especially over, I mean, right now they are, they are on top. I mean, pray was good. And that animated show from what I've seen so far is pretty good. Badlands to me looks okay. But Alien, I loved the first two episodes of Alien Earth, really like Romulus. The only reason I keep Predators is because the first Predator is one of the best, one of my favorite movies of all time. So I would get rid of Alien only because of that because I don't want to get rid of that first movie. How about you guys?

I think I'm keeping alien because I love aliens. I think James Cameron's aliens is as good as Ridley Scott's alien, but it's different. And I love that that's kind of the example I give of like how to change genre as well, OG style and then like do that. So I'd keep aliens because that one two punch. I think Alien Romulus is an amazing third alien film. And then Alien Earth, I'm loving a lot. But I do love Predator.

I love Danny Glover in the second Predator. But I think Alien is slightly more hits than Mrs. But I would hate to lose Carl Weathers in Predator 1. Like losing Carl Weathers would break me. Alien franchise has the better movies for sure. Higher highs. Definitely higher highs. I would have just going to say it.

I feel like it also has the lower lows. But it definitely has the significant, like those first two movies are classic cinema. But I think to answer the question, I'd probably get rid of Alien and keep Predator. just because I think Predator is cooler. The first movie is just the best. What the hell are you? Ronaldo Meza Puerto. Do you think that Supergirl will have a bigger budget than Superman?

It shouldn't. And how risky is it released one week after Toy Story 5? Not risky at all because I think that that's a very different audience. That's family and kids. And I think that Supergirl will take on that comic book audience. and families as well. No, it shouldn't have a bigger budget. That would be a massive error on their part.

But, Coy, what do you think? I don't think it does or would. I feel like, you know, we were speaking, a budget of actors. I feel like Millie Alcock is similar in that, like she's about to be a household name, but casting-wise is not crazy. And I think the story takes place largely in space,

so they're going to be building sets, but I don't think they'll be as much like cordoning off parts of the city. They did so much practical. I think they'll do a lot of practical, it'll be a different less costly practical. So I think it should be cheaper. And I'm wondering about that release date. I don't think it's the Toy Story 5 of it all.

I think it's the three weeks till Odyssey and the two weeks till something else. They need a nice chunk of landscape there. When I asked you earlier, did I pull Winston on you? Or did I actually hear you when I said, how should we do our list? You did pull Winston, but it's okay. It's out. I would say we should all do five, I'll do four, I'll do three. And you're like, I agree.

And then you did all five of yards. Yeah, no, I definitely was laughing about that. I was like, I thought we were all doing our five, but okay. I thought you were, I thought you meant do all five. And it makes sense. Do all five. And you were like, your conviction was so strong. We should all do five.

I'll do five. And you're like, yeah, got it. Five. Here's all. Literally because because I feel like ass, I was like, I must have misunderstood. I clearly did not understand that. I thought it would be interesting to count down. like until we get to one and it said it was like social clip here's it all yep there it is you're

right um bradley pooper my top five choices for batman are kyle gowler don't know him oliver jackson cohen not sure that is josh o'connor don't know him either austin butler um josh hartnett okay and bonus paul meskell paul meskell's interesting me a little i don't know um i don't know the first ones oh yeah pal galgallner's a great actor i don't see him as like old money. I think Josh O'Connor is a great actor as well, but I don't see him as Batman. Austin Butler's Gambit to me.

Yeah, these guys just don't have that Bruce Wayne nest to me. But Josh Hartnett, I think, is the, we agree there. Go pal. I like the Christian says, you guys pick how we do the list. Coy answers and then Christian, that's a complete. Definitely. I definitely misheard him because I was like, okay, if he wants to do one by one, I'll do that.

I think, no, we should just do all five each. I'm like, oh, okay. Tournament style. Nope. Yeah, I misheard it. Boom or bust. If the mutant gene became reality today, how would the world respond? If you developed a mutation, would you hide it, rebel or try to coexist? Depends on what it was.

It would truly depend. I mean, like, the reason the Morlocks exist is because most of them look like some version of a monster or a freak, and that because people are terrible, they go and hide underground so that they don't get hunted. like the X-Men, that's the quote-unquote pretty privilege for most of them because most of them look like regular humans and you wouldn't be able to tell they have powers unless, you know, someone knocks off Scott's glasses or, you know, Charles keeps having his freakouts like in Logan. You would have no idea.

So I would be fine with it, but I know people would freak out. Tom Hanks. Thoughts on the bear season four. it's my second favorite season after finishing it. I loved season four. Yeah. I haven't seen it. I thought it was fantastic.

Everyone was telling me how, ah, those seasons's not as good. Yeah, there's a lot of talking and there's a lot of, but, but I thought it was a lot of character development. And I thought that Karm had his best arc in this whole thing.

I feel like they finished a lot of storytelling. They were trying to do in the second and third season. Like this, this felt like a really good culmination. I like four a lot. Yeah. Um, you guys are at 50 thus far.

Not bad. Wow. At 107. John Darius, happy Friday, guys. What do you think of Sarah Pigeon from I know what you did last summer as possible Wonder Woman? Is she the one from the studio? Let me see. Sarah Piz.

She's the right age and honestly has a look. What's your thoughts? I think she's the one from the office. I mean, not the office. I say the office. I'm in the studio. Yeah. Sarah.

No. She was in Gothen for one episode. She's in the wilds. Oh, she's really new. Oh, I know who she wasn't in. Did you guys see? I know what you did last summer of the new one. I haven't seen it now.

I know who she wasn't in. As Wonder Woman, I mean, you guys know my pick. My pick is Arjona. I think she's. How tall is this girl? I think she's taller.

Let's see. She is 5.10. Pretty tall. Yeah, she's tall. So, I don't know. I mean, I just needs to get, if she's going to do it, if that's a serious question. then she's got to get jacked.

Like, you can't, Wonder Woman can't be a beam pole. She's got to, like, be a warrior. Yoshimitsu. Josh Brolin is Bruce Wayne and Weijun,

the young cop from Squid game. He's pretty good, too. It's Terry McGinnis. I take Batman fits better with the new Superman. Interesting choices. It's going to be so, I don't know,

kind of quite. I was going to say, I think a way to have Josh Brolin as Batman is a Batman beyond because I do think, like, flashbacks of him as Batman that way and have that cast work. But I don't know how soon we'd get a Batman beyond because that would be a third Batman.

Derek Spina. Remember, David Coren sweats around 6'4. If you want to act around the same height, you don't want Batman looking up at Superman. Alan Richen is it. Well, I don't know if you don't want an actor looking up to Superman. And I think it's the whole point with Batman. It's the Batman has to try to figure out how to, you know, be toe to toe with everyone, even though he doesn't have superpowers and he doesn't have.

maybe the prowess of a of a Superman. So if Superman is 6-4 and he's 5-9, 5-10, or 6P, looking up at a, I don't think he needs to be eye level. I mean, so just by the, just by the typically comic, accurate breakdown of people's heights, Bruce and Clark are about the same. Bruce is 6-2 and Clark is 6-3. They're comparable as far as that goes. so um but it's so it's something to keep in mind for sure um doro stradamere became a youtube member

thank you doru nathan drake army hammer and not he got too much too much controversy surrounding him right now you don't think he's in the season of marvel zombies on september 24th well done well done is he for real i was i was going to say well done but i was like wait who knows anymore those Can we really talk about that? I guess they're moving up Marvel zombies? Until like soon, like four episodes starting on the 24th. Apparently they're TVMA, which is exciting. It'll actually be zombies, but.

That'd be interesting to see, but I don't know if I've ever cared less about a project. I just didn't like what if enough to really, I'll watch it, but I hope it's fine to me. Maybe I'll try a little bit of it, but if I couldn't get, if I couldn't even be bothered to watch Spider-Man, which everyone says is amazing. It is. It is. So everybody says. I'm like, I just, I might. watch it but maybe not.

Parker Haller can't just be handsome guy with scowling muscles needs to need the vibe of repressed weirdness and crazy. That's true. Bail, Keaton, Pattinson all feel that they hate people in sunlight and we'll snap at any moment. That's true. Yeah, you got, you can't just. That's why Eccles is probably why that

became number one for both of us. Yeah. As you saw how he was as a soldier boy, there is no doubt in my mind and a criminal looks at him the wrong way and he will beat the shit out of him. Yeah. I'm, I want to see. how that plays. And that's one of the reasons. I think Scunar can definitely get to that dark

place. You've got to see just, Koi, there's a scene in season two of 1923, where he's on a boat. And essentially what happens, I don't care at this point. We're past, so if you're going to see he's

trying to get back to his homeland. He's trying to get back. He's in Europe and he's got to, he's trying every, it's 1923. It's not, it's easy to travel so he's trying to figure out away and he's just put on this boat and there's a bunch of different people on this boat like you know criminals and other things and he's down there and there's this guy who's getting um this younger italian guy who's getting sexually assaulted by this other guy brandon scinnar beats the ever-living piss out of the guy who is doing the assault

like to where it's just like and he's protecting this guy and winds up protecting them and doing this And it's like this scene of what he does and how he's doing, like coming to the rescue of, you know, someone who's being hurt and then he does. And his reasoning for it afterwards and having to explain to the officers of what he, he just did and what happened. And I was like,

whoa, that scene alone, that's the scene that you should watch and go, okay, maybe, maybe, maybe there's a YouTube clip of it. I'm going to watch it.

I'll watch that. You should watch that, that scene. Um, edit, my mood. Ben Barnes is Batman. I like Ben Barnes,

but he doesn't come to mind his first, first one at narnia top 20 but i wouldn't have thought of him's up five like when you say it i'm like i could see it but like you know doesn't leap yeah i don't i mean look he should get an audition how about that did you guys see uh the residents on netflix it's pretty good um another thought that just came to mind and this dude like has experience with action stuff because he was in nc i s los angeles but uh barrett foa what i don't know him i i think i think he could actually he could pull it off pretty well. All right. Um, real quick, I'm going to call an Audible. And I want to bring up this topic here. Let's see. I don't want to lose this here. So I'll, I'm going to bring this and give me a moment.

This is an article that came out. And so X-Men 97 showrunner Ridicles Marvel's new X-Men plan and says it's sad. I'm assuming this is Bo de Mayo. According to a former creator from X-Men 97, Marvel's plans for the X-Men are nothing more than sad. Um, the show owner from X-Men 87 and held nothing back in calling Marvel studios playing for an ex-movie. Sad while the MCU's first X-Movie movie might not hit theaters in a foreseeable future. Anticipation is still high for the Marvel Studios to have its crack in the mutants for a new cast and creative team. Fortunately, along with that excitement comes plenty of skepticism, even from some who have

worked Marvel before. Bo de Mayo criticized Marvel studio strategy for introducing the X-Find of Mutants into the MCU while the May was fired from Marvel. He has remained a vocal and critical about Marvel. 's upcoming plans as the franchise's financial and critical struggles continue along revealing some of Marvel's plans that were partly in the works during his tenure. He also had nothing back in terms of being critical about some of those plans. Posting to X, DeMayo spoke on having faith in Marvel Studios plans for The Mutants,

saying the group is so much bigger than anyone creative, including himself. While the short answer to that question was, no, he went on details to why he feels that way. He said, first, the X-Men are so much bigger than anyone creative, myself included. Would I have loved to write directs theater of the live action films, of course, but I have great faith that there are amazing artists out there who have amazing visions and stories to tell with the X-Men. Now, do I have faith in the MCU's Mutant Saga? Short answer, not yet, no. Let me walk you.

Why? So you don't think I'm being a hater. According to DeMayo, the X-Men needed deep planning to pull them off and make them resonate. He went into details on what Marvel had planned to do with the Mutant saga before his unceremonious exit. He said, X-Men requires planning, deep planning to pull them off and make them resonate. You have to be very mindful of how you're laying out their story. the way in which audiences will experience that story. You also need to suppress your ego to make it your own and focus on meeting the mutants on their terms, which means deeply respecting their canon and the emotional investment that fans have in that canon. With this in mind, this is the start of Marvel Studios Mutant Saga. He kicked off with the change to Kamala Khan's background, which changed her from an inhuman to a mutant calling the move a young adult retcon that Kevin Feige forced onto the franchise to make it feel like his own.

He limited not seeing any of the original X-Men take that introductory position instead of having Ms. Marvel. continued by saying that a new cast jubilee showing up at the end of Ms. Marvel to recruit the young hero would have been better than what fans got. He said a retcon and musical sting in Ms. Marvel that she's now somehow a mutant. I want to go back past this. DeMayo did not enjoy the weird nostalgia cameo

of Professor Axe and Dr. Strange 2. But he said something about, I guess that he said something along, this is a long article, but he said something about Kevin Feige resenting. I see. Lastly, all the Fox characters we thought were gone and dead are being brought out yet again to manufacture and artificial interest and distract from

Kevin and Marvel studios decade-long failing of frequent failures. I guess he just kind of goes out. I mean, there's a lot. Next to, uh, okay, so let's talk about how Kevin and Nate and Marvel talk about one thing that's come out of Marvel that was universally loved. Oh, right, they don't. In fact, Kevin and his vaulted parliament at Marvel didn't even attend X-Men 97's premiere. One of the cast, one of the crew members was in the elevator with Lou, the day of the premiere

mentioned it and Lou had no idea what he was talking about. Also, notice how everyone at Marvel talks like Deadpool and Wolverine put X-Men back into modern Zichai. Sorry, that was X-Men 97, and even Ryan Reynolds has acknowledged it. Sily, Kevin Faggy and his psychopaths hated that what I crested with my team was getting all the praise. Although he tried not to come off as egotistical, he felt that X-Men 97 resonated with the MCU's core audience in ways that Figey and his team of higher-ups have not done in years. He also noted being that told Figey resented his work in the show,

other artists praised him for what he accomplished. Um, there. Hold on a second. All right. This is hard to, it's like the problem is this. It's that like I don't, I don't, I've never spoken to Bo de Mayo. I don't know, but he does come off as just disgruntled, you know, comes off in the fact that like he's been, he's been, he was at this place. He got let go.

His work was absolutely like loved by everybody on this panel. I mean, he, the guy clearly knew. There's no doubt about that is some of the stuff he's saying true. It very well might be. It very well might be. But it's hard. I mean, in the same way, look, I love Rob Liefel. I love Rob.

When we have conversations with him, it's hard for me to take his tweets serious about Marvel now. Because he's like one of those guys that everything Marvel does, he just hates now. I can't take that stuff serious anymore because everything you say now, you just hate it because. and so I get that feeling from Bo but I can't say that it's not exactly accurate some of this stuff I don't know Corey what do you make of this I don't know why it keeps doing that to me it's looking through sand right

like you're kind of just sifting for gold trying to find the truth nuggets in the rage I don't know what Bo went through I don't know what Kevin Faggy's side is so like it's it's a one-sided argument of someone that has i i don't know what parts are you know fact versus feeling um but you know it's really hard because i did love xman 97 but i do feel like now we are in an age of hating on marvel uh and and finding the flaws and things i don't know what it was that beau de mayo did that got him fired but it sounded egregious i don't know what it was that kevin foggy did that made beau

de mayo hate him so much but it sounds like a big thing so um i just know that you know kevin foggy has given us 20 years of Marvel studios property, but when I hear these details, it does sound like the X-Men are being steered in a very certain way. I didn't love the Miss Marvel comic choice to turn her into her comic book,

into her TV self. I think that's very short-sighted, and it does hurt the character. I love the character Miss Marvel. I don't like that she's like a shiny little, you know, looks like rock candy arms. I thought it made sense for the show because stretching abilities are very costly

and it reminds you feel of Mr. Fantastic. But to change her comic character into a mutant, I think Amon Valani did the best she could, trying to write comics that would allow for that bridge. But now that it's landed, it does feel like a subversion of the character. G. Willow Wilson, the writer of Miss Marvel even said,

they were very intentional with her character. They didn't want her sparkly. Cut to she's sparkly. So that's what I'm gleaning from the bow things, is trying to find the little pieces that aren't feeling but are fact. But at the end of the day, like, we've seen what Kevin Feigey's given Marvel. We've seen what Kevin Feigey's given Marvel Studios. We know that he gave Hugh Jackman his accurate hair.

Like, I don't want to take away from what he's done because of the things he might be doing. But I also don't want to ignore someone that's upset. But also that person has done wrong things. It's hard. Winston, what do you think about all this? So, you know, I don't have nearly as many sources as you guys do. But I do have a few. And I am aware of the fact that.

you know, there's a point at which I just need him to stop talking. There is a large possibility that a lot of the stuff he's saying about the creative direction right now is correct and that's fine. But this does just come off as disgruntled worker. He yells outside of building with sign every day. Because it feels like every couple of months, if not less than that, it begins up back in the news, just yelling about how much he is. hates Marvel and how whatever, whatever, like he was going on and on about Fantastic Four

a little while ago thing. He was going on and on about Thunderbolts. And always using that then to come back to his situation and how they screwed him. I just, no one is saying that Marvel doesn't necessarily have some of its issues kind of going on that obviously they're trying to figure out as far as why. box offices aren't doing as well what people maybe don't trust the brand as much anymore things like that i think that's all valid um but to continue to come from him when even his here's my breaking everything that happened and nothing came out of that like it was all kind of innuendo

and like he charged people for that originally and then he released it for free and it still didn't say anything it just i don't know i i kind of wish he would just stop talking personally Fair enough. What do you guys make of this in general? Agreed? Same page. It's like, hey, it's true. He should be talking about it. Let us know. All right, back to the questions. I just, I figure we should definitely talk about that. John Darius, Clenar as Batman equals, yes, we need an actor that gets, they'll be in the role for 10 plus years. Plus, he can bring the confidence Wayne has been missing since Batman begins. Do you think he has a real chance? I think he's going to be in the conversation. I think that James Gunn will, will see him.

but remember it's not just James Gunn's decision here it's going to be who's is it going to be mushietti I don't believe it will be I think it'll be somebody else I'll tell you who I want to see direct a Batman movie now is is Craigers from from weapons I haven't seen it yet oh man yeah oh man that that I want to see that guy direct a Batman that be great but who knows what do you think uh core well do you do you i know you don't see him as a yex you don't have enough footage on it but do you think because of all the hype and everything too you think that they're in relation with one of brothers yeah i think i think from the outside it seems like a why do you keep doing that i think it's incredible conversation right like i

i i want the dude who is clearly a fan to get an opportunity and i love that the fans want him to get that opportunity so just because i don't see it doesn't mean that it isn't going to happen or, you know, that I won't change my mind once I see this boat scene or some other things. So I do think there's a lot of buzz and that's exciting. And I, it kind of bothers me that the internet doesn't like that clearly when someone's in the running and there's hype around them. It seems like there's this conversation of like internet casting. It's like if someone's right for the job and they find out via the internet, why is it bad that someone in creative positions of power listened? We talk about democratizing art all the time. I think it's a beautiful thing if someone can come

from obscurity adjacent. Obviously, this dude's not obscure, but I didn't know his name until people started saying him for Batman. Now I know the dude's name. That's exciting to me. So I think it's absolutely viable. What do you think, Winston? He's going to get a shot?

Winston, are you there? Winston? You there, Winston? All right, he's moving on. Perfect. All right, Tyler, Gosha, still doing the V-O of Caps and Cowles Comics? Yes. So right now I'm still working.

I'm like, as you guys know, I'm working pretty heavy on this pilot right now, getting the, the final version of the script is, um, is to the director. And then, um, we're, we're moving forward like the Kickstarter. So capes and cowls, we have to get, uh, everybody together and just figure out a time to do it. Um, and it's going to take probably a few recording sessions for to do it. Then I got to bring an editor on to it. But yes, absolutely still thinking about doing. Um, okay. we have 63 questions thus far not bad Miguel and her goals 107 177 whoa yeah Miguel Zane I like Jamie Dornan for Bats a very good actor has been nominated for an Oscar early 40s not too young not too old people who were not recognized him from 50 shades Jamie Dorman is that the

he's a Irish dude yeah he's the one in you right yeah I like him I mean I'd say he's in my top 10 Like I think my number six would be Sebastian Stan, but like he'd be like a little bit after that. Okay. So Matt Simpson-McKal, who would you cast as Batman villain? No Joker. I mean, who would you cast as a Batman villain or who would you make as the villain? I think both, right? They want us to pick a villain and cast him maybe.

Listen to your mics off. I don't know what happened to it. So there you go. Okay. Okay. All right. So, yeah, I don't know who they want. Who do you think they're going to go with?

in in brave and the bold i mean i still really like i keep bringing up hugo strange i don't like i feel like hugo strange especially dealing with damien would be kind of interesting like i know all your deep dark secrets including your love child is actually also superhero with you i think it could be really interesting i think if they go hugo strange which like viable uh then it might be like a big villain to fight and then hugo strange manipulating right like you've got like a Mr. Freeze or something like a bit more fantastical up front. And then you've got the more human element in the back. And I'd love to see Batista as Hugo Strange.

Hmm. I mean, I, Jesse Plemons is Hugo Strange. I stand by that. I think that he's a fantastic actor. There's a reason he was not. Did he ever, he didn't win the Oscar, but he was nominated though, right?

He might have been. Sean Peterson, Lee Pace already worked with Gun on Guardians. I mean, yeah, I mean, again, it's good. I'm sure he can recommend. but it's it's a matter of who's directing if it's mushietti you know maybe muscietti starts bringing to some of the people he's worked with you know um that's why maybe scars guard comes in for

an evil role or something Karen von derman Tom Pelfrey is my pick I don't know Tom Pelfrey you guys know Tom Pelfrey I do not let's see Tom Pelfrey um I don't know Tom Pelfrey what's he from I do not know this man oh I know he did he's from Ozark He was, oh, I do. Yes. He was great in Ozark. He was great in Ozark. I don't know if I see him as Batman, but he was great in Ozark.

What happened to him? Like, where has he been? But Karen Tom is an actor in general, but. I mean, I guess he's been doing a lot of TV. He was in love and death. I think that's with Elizabeth Olson. Well, he certainly falls into the category of what we're talking about, though, of getting those, you know, those kind of those actors who are,

okay, we can get this guy for 500, 700,000 to do it and he's a really solid actor which is sound strategy by the way firstly here's my top five Jamie Dornan there's Jamie Dornan again Gabriel Mock Jensen ankles Joshua Jackson Theo James people like that Theo James pick man yeah I guess I got to see I guess I got to see the gentleman on uh I think that'll help sell you he's Joshua Jackson interesting I don't I don't think so Dawson yeah no and it was ridiculous oh he was in the karate kid movie Reels and heels my gut feeling

tells me that Batman's already castes either Jensen Eccles or Alan Richardson, but leading more towards Alan. Nah, he's not cast. That all these people are sniffing around, people would know. There's too many people who got their hands in the pot. Now, the MoHavs Social Club, Christopher Abbott for Batman. No way.

The movie James White's older for me. Sad violent good. Christopher Abbott, is that who I'm, let me see. I think it's a... Oh, that's interesting. I think I'm thinking of somebody else. I was thinking to somebody else I was thinking somebody else Chris Rabbit is that's not a bad pick at all so take away my

no way I was thinking of the dude who just did the voice for Galactus and he sounds Oh oh Highness or whatever Yeah he's he's great but not That's Batman but that's not what he said He's Christopher Rabbit Chris Travis is good

Inson Ralph Inson He definitely could not be Batman He does not have the he has the look The same way that Jesse Clemens has the look Nobody nobody said that he said Chris He said Christopher for a rabbit because the rabbit is a good is a good uh pick but good art hey coy what about milo is nightwing i think he's a little older for nightwing um but i i mean i like your energy uh but yeah i think he's

milo for gordon gordon's good pick god god god god's good pick milo for gordon yeah he can't brian cranson's been my gordon but i think he's almost too old now but but i want cranston cj just jumped in one of i miss guys oh my god you got to do full full list on batman you got to But we have a whole bunch of people with some really good suggestions. Daynapper. A lot of us use movies at the end of the day to unwind. How does someone in your position unwind after a day of filming reactions going to premiere and talking about movies for hours? Spending time with my family, to be honest.

And it also like, it's still like TV that I want to catch up with that I don't really even have to necessarily even talk about. Like what I've been doing now is there's, I have a list that I have that I go home and after I'm done doing everything and I have some alone time. I'm like, what TV shows I need to catch up. And right now I'm watching Tulsa King's season two. I am currently rewatching the, uh, the, the fourth great ninja war arc of Naruto. Uh, just it's, it's been, it's, it's funny how just because I've been sick and I couldn't move, I've been able to fly it because it's, it's, it's deep. It's like 150 episodes of, of this war arc.

And I've blown through like 30 or 40 episodes just in the last two days because I couldn't move. But I think also, Corey, same thing is that you've been going, like, the gym helps me on one too. Yeah,

I was going to say, like, I actually, I really struggle to not have film and comics feel like work. Like, I don't, I don't really read comics for fun anymore. And I don't really watch anything that isn't like in the back of my mind.

Like, how am I going to use this? Right. So the gym is like my time. And I thought about doing gym content. And I was like, I'll, I'll commodify that and then I'll lose it.

So the gym and music, because I don't really talk music much. So music is still special. music music's big comedy that's my my big thing is comedy so either going to do shows writing my own shit uh like jokes or scripts and and um just watching stand-up specials that that helps too to separate from the rest of this yeah i mean so like and i even did so yesterday and i will say this though too because i wasn't going to talk about you were talking about gym stuff because a gym to me has almost become like my like a church for i saw that pick man you're looking great oh thank you man so i wasn't

going to post that. I wasn't going to post it because I was like, oh, you know, I don't want to be someone that's posting like gym stuff and other stuff. Nothing against people who do, but I was like, I don't know if I should do that. And I talked to Roxy. And I said to Roxy, I said, what do you think if I posted this picture and I sent it to her? She said, you should definitely do that because I think, you know, you might inspire some people. And I said, because my whole point of reason why I wanted to do it was say, hey, this is what I wanted to put health as a priority. And wanted to do this. I've been doing this and this is me basically doing. I wrote a whole long post. And so this is the picture that I posted yesterday. And wow, dude. And so like I was,

but I was, but I got a lot of people, but I got Alan, Princeton. No, I don't know that. But I just got people, I got people who were, it was, I got a lot of really nice messages because of it. Um, and, and I actually got phone calls from friends I haven't heard for in a while, but also saying, look, I've been trying to get myself back into it. What are you doing it too? And, I was like, okay, that if you can do that and that and just going there and being, you know, in that mindset, it is, it resets. Dude, and you're buying time back in your life and a photo might inspire someone else to do the same. Like I was so self-conscious about gym photos. Then I realized like, I got 98% positive responses every time.

And I'm like, if one of those people is inspired, I helped someone live longer. So I think it's great, man. Thank you. Um, geek load stores. I talked about this with some friends. With some friends is the Rushmore superhero movies, Spider-Man, Superman, Batman, and maybe X-Men as a whole? Who's another hero or team you might think be in that mix? Wonder Woman, maybe?

I mean, Avengers have kind of made themselves a movie. That's true. Yeah, that's true. If you're saying superhero movies, yeah, Avengers would probably have to be in there, too, movies-wise. But if you're overall with comics, I mean, because Iron Man wouldn't be in comics, but as far as movies? Yeah, like, if you're... It's a different conversation. Yeah.

To the point where like if you're talking movies, because both Superman and X-Men have been more hit or miss than everything else, you would replace one of them with Avengers at this point. Right. I think so. Yeah. All right. Moving forward.

76, guys. Not too bad. About 100 away. Peter Kalenko, if Warner Brothers is doing well like it is with the run its head, does it give more leeway or take pressure off gun in D.C. to have a massive box office numbers i think it takes pressure off because they look at everything they have as a whole and say well sinners did this did that okay superman maybe didn't make 300 overprofit but it did well enough that we're we're not we're not in a bad spot but i don't know quite do you see it

differently yeah i see it as like any time a movie does well for a studio i think that you know we we look at um lelo and stitch in the upcoming avatar helping disney out i think you look at warner brothers having this incredible run of low budget or mid-budget films making high-budget numbers or high-ish budget for post-pandemic numbers. I think honestly, DC Studios is separate of WB enough that they've got a little bit more leeway, but I know at the end of the day, when Warner Brothers stockholders look at their money, it's not going to hurt if they've got like all of this wiggle room and freedom. And I think they launched Superman at the launch to the DCU, not just the launch of Superman.

So I think it's a beautiful thing. It's done as well as it has for the whole company, but especially for DC Studios. I am two-fled like him. Best hands in D.C. Do you mean who could throw hands the best? Yeah, throw-in-hands. Black Canary or Wonder Woman.

No, it's got to be Bruce. It's Bruce or Wonder Woman. Canary is up there, but Bruce is literally a master of every martial art on the planet. Not like I know them. He is literally mastered every martial. The only people that throw hands harder than him, correct me if I'm wrong, Koi, is like Lady Shiva.

And I'd say Lady Shiva wildcat Batman. No, no, no. What, dude, wild cat's a boxer, bro. That's it. And like, yeah, sure, but Bruce whoops his ass constantly. If we're talking the traditional throwing hands, if you just mean boxing,

if you just mean, boxing fine, but Bruce literally has mastered every single martial art on the planet, bro. And Lady Shiva's beat him, Lady Shiva. Well, that's what I'm saying. Lady Shiva, Bruce, and then Wonder Woman's in that conversation, too, but not. Wildcat is the man, but no, bro.

Black and red, Bill Scars card for bad. What? What do you say? Smart move, pivot. Comic nerds yelling about sandbox fights. That's what I. for bill scars guard to me more villainous legend m m600 badass new lower name badgers thing you all rock yeah that's give props to uh yeah what happened to that where it was there and that's gone

well it was good yeah while it lasted it was it was it was good i don't know what it's it disappears sometimes um maybe this is it hey look at um so yeah uh luke helped with those and kind of came with this this whole thing. And I'm, we've been redesigned in the whole show with that stuff too. And the goofballs that, that, we brought the goofball show back.

So we're excited to, and it all started with, um, our lower thirds. And now we decided the whole thing should get a face left and did. So there you go. It looks good. Boy,

I'm gonna send you this list. This list that I think is pretty spot on, man. Matt, Matt Sinister McAll. Who has more jobs? Pedro Vascala, Corey Jondro. Corey.

Yeah. Eight, eight right now, man. A, simultaneous. I am a broken man. That's a lot. Brandon Summers. Christian, you'd love the gentleman. It was excellent. Theo James was so good in it, and he'd be my top pick for Batman.

Okay. I mean, look, I like the movie. He was charming, suave and had that edge. Alan Riston and Richard Madden would also be great picks as well. All right. I mean, you got, Brandon, you know my number, my number one, but like, um, I, Theo James, maybe I have to go check it out and see. It seems to be a lot of people.

Like, I don't want to do what I said, you know, again, well, we've always talked about what happened. Well, Winston just said we shouldn't do with the Robert Pattinson. Is this person? I don't know. There could be a performance that you just haven't seen in the same way, Quisga, I'm going to check out that scene and see, because maybe it changes, and I could definitely change with Theo James.

I was so stubborn. I was probably the most stubborn person you knew about Pattinson, and I stood corrected. I went and watched good times like you told me to do, and I was like, maybe I should shut up. Casual scroll. So I just want to have the conversation, not cause controversy and not for comes from everyone. Uh-oh. Let's see.

Mark Bernard and I actually had a few takes why Bruce Wayne, not Batman, couldn't be black. I believe his reasoning was due to the fact that Bruce comes from old generational wealth. Yeah, but you got to remember what year we're in now. So like there's definitely ways that you could make that happen. We're in 2025. We're not like, or like, there is definitely. a world when you consider like the Madam CJ Walker's and there have been plenty of black folk that

have made money over generations and stuff like that. It's certainly possible if we're shooting this in modern times. If you're trying to shoot this when Batman was kind of originated, we're having a different conversation. But no, it could still happen one way or the other. But again, that to me is

not where the problem would lie. The problem would lie with people that would immediately go, you guys waste with movies. Yeah. Sean, based on your Batman list. Who's your Alfred? Oh, man. Good, good question. Um, I feel like every single person I come up with him. Brian Cranston, Brian Cranston would be interesting Alfred, but I like it. But you think he can't do a British accent or do you know how many

British American roles? I don't know if he can because here's why I'm never going to say a great actor can absolutely do it because Denzel can't and if Denzel can't, and I'm not, if he's one of the best of all time, if he can't, uh, you know what I'd like to see. like to see you'll tell you someone who could and that they could bring him out of retirement is imagine daniel day louis playing god art there's your price tag we're gonna pay bruce wayne seven 50 we're gonna pay daniel day 10 mil we're gonna pay him everything else just to bring bring bruce t and go wow you should maybe sleep more that's right and you think tom brittany is batman gunn praised him recently he's praise someone in the chat said ray finds i love ray finds as ever because he's a former m i 6

like he's still scrappy but like has that poise i like that a lot oh or pierce brosnan like also a good one oh and uh yeah that tom brittney thing before we leave that i i'm very curious about that because i do think there is an element of casting where you cast like a wide net and then you remember them for the future of the dc u when i interviewed um the casting director for marvel she had said that joseph queen went out for spider man i don't know if it was the role of Spider-Man, but like he auditioned in the Spider-Man trilogy for something, and she remembered him and Human Torch happened. So I think something similar with Superman might be a thing where it's, you know, Tom

Brittany went out for Superman, got really close. Maybe that works out for Batman. I don't know, but that'd be interesting to see these names start to come back. All right. Jack Lewis, wondering if you guys have played the Insomniac Spider-Man games? If so, do you think the Holland Spider-Man movies will go similar route with the symbiate storyline? I don't necessarily think they'll go a similar route with the symbiates. I played the first Spider-Man game.

I know he's in the second one and the end of the first one. But I honestly think that Secret Oars is finally lining up with a Spider-Man movie. I hope they find, like within months of a Spider-Man movie, we get Secret Oars for the first time ever. I really hope they land it for comic fans. I really need to borrow somebody's PS5 for like a weekend. Yeah, that's my problem. She's doing it now while you're ill.

I know. That might be the movie. Day napper. Hey, door dasher, put your phone in your pocket and carry the foe with two hands. Here, here. Sorry, it worked. Just venting. Stay awesome. Yeah, especially if you're going to, don't drop it on the floor. Then you're in your problems. MDD. 0101. Scott Eastwood, Batman. I don't think Scott Eastwood's the best actor. I don't know. I don't get it. Yeah, I just don't think he's the best actor.

Cool looking dude. He's cool looking dude, but he's a, and like, I want an actor. Yeah, not for that. Andrew Cawrence. Are Pat's gritty real tone exactly why? want him as DCU Batman would love to have bats as the audience's eyeline to the broader world of DC gods and Titans. I just think we're in such a different place now. I used to think like, okay, it's very possible it could happen. We've all been all over the map of what's going to happen.

I think it's so I think it's so clear cut now that guns like we're doing two movies and that's what we're doing. Are you drinking jolt cola? That's what it looked like. Oh, look. Well, perfect. Oh, bad live delivery. Are you drinking jolt cola? That's what it looked like.

The kids today with their jolt colas. Colas? Is that making a renaissance? Like Josh Hartman? Jolt cola coming in hot. All right. So yeah, no one on this panel anymore thinks there's going to be Pattinson in the DC, right? I think Corey ever thought that. I've never, I've always been this team that's, that's seeming to get the two Batman's week. I've won.

Winston, any shot that it still happens? No. All right. Brandon Summers, with it, Brandon. Kind of a crazy picture. like Benny Jones for Alfred. Also in the gentleman, but he can play regal while also giving you a two piece with a Biscan.

He Jones. That is such a big, like bold take maybe. Like that's so insane. Yeah, I don't, I don't know about that. But, you know, who knows?

I don't, I don't see it. I don't see it at all. If you're going to do that, then at a certain point, do you just go with, um, oh my God,

what's his name, uh, beekeeper and all that shit. Oh, uh, Satham? Yeah. That'd be, be in a lot.

I'm the butler. Yeah, you need him. It's like, you're going to find a joke. Are you going to find a joke? You know what I mean? I know what you're. Just go ahead. Just go ahead, put him in the ground.

Yeah, that's right. Don't talk to him. Just put him on ground. You know what I? I saw Dr. Gervas in T.O. Where's T.O.? What comic is?

The office? You mean, what comic character would you cast him as? Penguin would be cool in guns DCU. I just feel like he wouldn't want anything to deal with it. I may be wrong. He hates the... Yeah. If he was going to be anybody in it,

then it would be something like the Mad Hatter or the Ridler just because of how much he hates everything. Yeah. And he would like put some sort of... He had fun toy man or ventriloquist. Right. Yeah.

Matt Krugman. Finished the studio. You were right. Christian Finalee killed me. Seeking Niki gun with my lady tonight. Get well Winston. Can't wait for the next stream. Cool.

Thank you, Matt. Yeah, the naked gun, you're going to get a kick out of it. It's so good. It's so good. Now you finally saw it. It's hilarious. Okay. So you know what he's talking about then the whole thing about take.

I'm not going to ruin it for anybody, but the, why don't you take a and then, yeah. No, I already have plenty. That's a good lot. The delivery of so many jokes that shouldn't work. It's a masterpiece. Dude, I still, I still can't get over that OJ joke. Oh, that was great. That was great.

Hugo Strange, Christopher Wals. Oh. Waltz out there will be interested, too. Interesting. That would be interesting. I can't even do it. I was going to do his voice. Can't do it.

Yeah. Peter Kalenko, Jack O'Connell is another option for bats. I'm not going to go against Jack O'Connell in anything. He's becoming like, like anytime I see him in something like, oh, cool, Jack O'Connell's in this. Unbroken, he was great. Sinners, he was great. I don't know Roak Heroes. And 71, he was really good in two.

Yeah, it's true. Start up. And he's so, I've been following that guy for years. He's incredible. Yeah. Jack Lewis, you guys think that the MCU will introduce Miles Morales after Holland exits? Yes. Or do you believe that Sony will want to start throwing a universe with him and not make a new deal?

That's also possible though. Because I think. I could see Sony waiting until after Spider-Verse and having him be their live action Spider-Man. Yeah. I could see it going either way. But, but, but, yeah, I'd be excited if he's in Secret Wars, but then that would be a Marvel deal. Right. Okay.

Joey Pedger's flip, Joey. Saw someone say Mark Marin is Gordon. Thoughts? I could see it. He just is Gordon. Like, that's just like he's just as is. I can see that. Mad Sinister McHale.

Best Snyder, just talked to gun from a telephone booth. Jerry Jones will be Alfred. Nice. John Roker is a penguin. Okay. Jeff Snyder is the Joker and Johnny Sins for Batman. Oh, perfect.

Thank you, Beth. Appreciate that. Zeus Fleming. Marlon Wayne's as Batman. Remember he was supposed to be Robin? Robin. Robin, yeah. He still gets residual checks.

I didn't know that. That's crazy. That's crazy. Reels and heels. The reason I said that was James Gunn said in not so forward way that Batman will show up before Brave in the Bowl. Hmm. I think there's a very clear path to that with the RDest out. I mean, he already has showed up in Crudgeon Commandos, but there's a, there's a movie coming out with like a villain of Batman.

I would hope to see him in. Yeah, I think they'll, I don't know if they're going to, I don't know when they're going to debut. I don't know. not sure. Matt Sinister, McCall, Logan Marshall Green, Batman,

and Harloff, NYC, mayor. I'm going to be the mayor. Yeah, great. Who the hell wants that? Who wants that job?

I love Logan Marshall Green. I think he's so good and upgrade. He looks so much like Tom Hardy, though. I'd be so distracted. Like that dude,

he's the ski old Rick of Johnny Deppes. Oh, okay. Paul Hitchcock, Christian Shraps are looking good. Probably doing dumbbell shrug, which is whatever that dumbbell shrugger says

something stupid Christian shrugs. That's pretty funny. Hell of a workout. So what I do, again, I was listening to Koi and Greg yesterday, too. So my routine, if anyway, gives you shit is on Mondays, I do legs. I start the week with legs. And because a lot of people don't like to do them at all, but I figure you start, my buddy who put me on this thing, you start with legs, get over Tuesday, chest and back.

Wednesday's day off, Thursdays, buys and tries, and then Friday is, shoulders. And I do that and I do abs all four days. Wow. A dedicated shoulder day really shows people don't people don't appreciate how much it changes your silhouette and the silhouette's a big part of like why people look strong. So a shoulder day is smart. The shoulder day is is there's there's and there's seven like so for when you when you're doing both buys and tries you do because you're working the same one you do three up three uh exercises for each. Um, and then for shoulders it is seven. Are you doing two percent? So it's like by, try,

by try by try I did three by then three try it like it did um so I I start with um what the the first one that I do for by it's just that just curls and then there's a site there's there's there's the regular then there's a machine and then I do and the one you I agree with you oh no you hate it or who who like no Greg hates it I love hammer curls and tricep man yeah hammer hammers are you don't you said you don't like a skull crush oh I love that's one of my face I think The pump you get feels like you're actually working out. Greg doesn't like them and that's silly to me. But he's like a martial arts build and I want to look like someone you have walked

the other side of the street from. Greg could fight it lightweight right now. Greg could fight. Greg is so nimble and like who's an actual martial artist. I remember when he went when we did Schmodeon and he did like that jump kick, whatever too. Yeah, he's mad sinister McCall. Logan Marshall Green, Batman.

Oh, we did that one already. Paul Henska, how we did that already? Brandon, Roka for newly created Batman villain, notorious hater. Oh, come on. Superpower, his opinion is on the excuse for facts. It's okay, boy, you can laugh at this. Now stop that. Eric Kenny. Dan Stevens, 42 inversely versatile.

Dan Stevens is pretty good. Legion, the guest, downtown abbey, can do light and dark. General audience, ladies, appeal, Bruce Batman, that could contrast a darker, Damien Robin. while also able to go full Zarin R. I like Dan Stevens.

I think he's pretty good. I don't know if he could. I don't know if I see him as Bruce, but I wouldn't be like, oh, they got Dan Stevens. Damn. Yeah, I've never been bummed when Dan Stevens was in a thing,

but I see him as so jovial, but I mean, obviously he plays dark too, but I think of him as so happy, but I'd love to see the tape. Begill Studios. My top five is Theo James, okay, Richard Madden,

there you go, Robbie Amel, interesting. Riley. Robbie loves Batman so much. That's so fun. Robbie's a friend. Like,

I love Robbie. I just saw Robbie, like, two weeks ago. Robbie has, like, Batman statues all over his hat. Like,

Robbie's a nerd. That's really fun. His favorite one is this, the Hellboy Mike Magnola, creator, made this, like, very, like,

shoulder tilted Batman, and the dude's obsessed. So I'm, I'm saying Robbie, because he looks like Batman, but also he loves him. I mean, the only thing funnier than that was then,

you know, your brother played, you know, Um, green arrow all of it the whole time. Yeah. Matt at the movie. When Justice League happens, can you see the first one to have seven, main seven on the team, Flash,

Green Lantern, Marcia Man, Hunter, and Future. Justice League movies to mix the teams. Green Arrow, Akamma, keep them in the main Trinity. What do you guys think? Hmm. I would, I would take a wild guess that we're going to get a Justice League that looks more similar to the animated series. Because again, you went in cast Aaron Pierre.

that's Mufasa as John Stewart and he looks exactly like John Stewart from the cartoon. So you're kind of setting a lot up to what it feels like like you already have Hot Girl in the mix. Like it feels like you're moving in that potential direction of that crew from the 2000 animated series. I agree and I think it's good to distinguish the two.

I think just like X-Men won't be the original five. It'll be some of the giant size era as well. So I think it's going to be a little bit bigger. Geek Load Stars. Have you guys been reading Absolute Batman? all of his rogue gallery designs have been straight out of a horror movie they really have dude bain is and and freeze are both terrifying nick drag us having a good time and they're co-creating it's not just artist writer they're like creating this world together which i love cj take out

superman and put incredibles in there what yes christian we know you hate animation stop that put some respect in their names all hits no misses i see what you're saying about the rushmore thing Oh, look, I don't think it's good, but it's not good enough to take those two movies and put up in the past four. It's crazy. And without Superman 78, like we don't get Batman 89 or the world of today. And those, and it wasn't necessary. I love Incredibles, but it wasn't original. They took it from Fantastic Four. Kenya King, Ralph, uh, Ray Fines as Alfred. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. Ralph Finis. Ralph Finis. Timothy Edsel. Hey, guys i love the show and listen daily i'm looking for a justice league run strong themes good character

relationships cool art any suggestions dan morris current run with mark wade is incredible it has all the things you're asking for and the art is exceptional uh it's right now like it's so good i think so unlimited one yeah yeah yeah it's good it's good uh julius wyatt rob should be the dc u batman i feel the right filmmaker can strike proper balance between gun and reeves i don't know if you all took rob out of the running. We did take him out of the running because of that. I just don't think Matt, I don't think they want to lose Matt Reeves and I don't think Matt Reeves wants anything to do with the DCU. And I don't want to, and they don't want to lose them. That's why I think that Pat and so. Yeah. Trade border. Kenneth Brana is offered. Great choice. That's great. I like

that. Great choice. Chris H becomes a new member today. Thank you, Chris. Again, we have a live stream. There's exclusive live streams for the members and that's going to happen today. at 4.30, my time, or East Coast time. So there you go. So someone said, Batista as Hugo Strange. Yes, Brandon Summers. And I think that you also mentioned that too, didn't you? Love that. And I think he's like he looks like him right now too. He lost some of the weight, but he's got that menace. And Gunn loves him. Yeah, he's going to be in something, obviously. Kenya King, Kevin Durand as Solomon Grundy. Oh, that's fun. Oh, I like that a lot, man. Born on a Monday. Kevin Durand is great. What was he in just, he was in something,

something recently that was really he was just in the apes movie but he was oh yeah he was just in um oh my god naked gun naked gun he's not be right yes peter uh calenko ian glen john morment as alfred i don't know i don't know john vermont as alfred i don't know england that's wild i was trying to put my finger on why i know kevin durand and obviously he's a naked gun but i really know him as blob that's hilarious oh ingrid germarmont from game of throats uh yes england would be we would be we be a very, very good call. Great call. Great call. One of the best ones so far. England is a great choice for Alfred.

Colin Collins became a YouTube member. Very, very nice. Thank you. I'm so excited to have more and more you guys in that live stream. Join the live stream. If you remember today, join that live stream. It's exclusive for you guys. Chain Adams, after Marvel's reboot, I think Kevin Feigey needs creative help. He needs the James gunned to his Peter Saffron.

Who would you guys choose? That's harder to say, because you didn't know Peter Saffron was before Ann, too. executive it's like the executive names you got to find like one of those topics in the same thing I say about like Lucasfilm you need yeah you need somebody who's just got really good studio executive I don't know I don't either yeah

the only name I'd say is Corey Jondra nice Julius Wyatt is incredible still the best fantastic poor movie I think up until recently but I think that the new Fantastic Four movie is a legit fantastic four movie so I like the new one I need to rewatch Incredibles to be honest I love I love Incredibles but but yeah no the new Fantastic 4 movies got it

Missing Score 44 recently rewatch Fantastic 4 I was curious oh 2005 I was curious to how you guys think it holds up as a film I haven't seen it in so long I remember thinking it was the parts back in the day but I have to check it out go to my page about a year year and a half ago I actually was redoing the Fox Marvel universe like kind of reviews like I was doing rewatches of them so go check it out all my thoughts are right there Um, guys you had a really solid run today. Uh, 94 with the last one. Damn. Jason State them as Alfred.

That's what I was saying before. Just put him in the ground. Is it? Enough of this bullshit, Bruce. I just want the whole trailer to be, I'm the butler. That's it. I'm the butler. You know what that means?

That means if you come in the back cave, I'll rip off your dick and then I'll kill you with you. You want some help? I'll help you. Do you see that? Do you see that giant penny? I'm about to show it up your ass. Yeah.

Do yourself. Get you down. move over to the right then move it to left sit right down um all right so again hell of a run 94 normal day yeah chris car just put out a you know a a career career shower 777 chris car wins this week but the guys put up a stellar performance and let's talk about what's going on in your channels before we get going quick plug there winston what do you got oh that's not Winston. Nope. YouTube.com slash a swaggy blurred, Twitchline TV slash a swaggy blurred. Again, my relay out of the theater reaction should be out momentarily. And then other than that, I'll be back early

next week on Monday with the new blurred breakdown once it's a little better. All right, Coy, Gendro. Can you find me on YouTube, TikTok, and sometimes Instagram at Coy John Drow doing lots of movies, TV, and comic book stuff. Please help me down. I appreciate you. guys thank you so much for being here today with us really appreciate it um so much that we have going on in the channel in general that's not stuff subro that's not me that's me that's me perfect um so again appreciate you guys being here i have a podcast Spotify anywhere podcast are found we have lord of the rings that's coming out the non-edited tomorrow cjs syndrome over like us okay that's fine um we have a lot going on with alien earth and then i hope superman comes out

next week sam will be back next week of other things i'm bringing in some new people we're working on those virtual reactions also so i'll have some more news soon so i wanted to thank winston thank you to koi appreciate you guys so much and we'll see you on the flip side bye-bye