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What's up, everybody? Happy Monday. A lot to talk about today. Turns out that Patty Jenkins story about the scheduling might not be true. Creative differences. I heard that before. But it looks like that's what happened. Rumors abound. Spider-Man trailer, No Way Home, that's dropping tomorrow.

They're doing a big fan event for it. So we're going to talk about that. There's a new poster out there already in preparation for the new trailer that is dropping. What are we going to see? Who's going to be there? All that stuff. is a lot. I saw some movies over the weekend.

I saw Shang Chi, Shang Chi, excuse me. I saw Red Notice, and I saw the Rocky versus Drago cut. I'm going to get into some of it. I'm going to do full reviews on the channel a little later, but I'll get into my thoughts. And a few other things, man,

I got a lot to talk about today. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to lie to you. There's a lot to talk about it, and I hope that you're excited to talk about it with me. I'm going to answer some questions from you guys a little later as well. Now, if you didn't have an opportunity, to check out the podcast.

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Let's get into this thing. It's the big thing. It is myself, Christian Harloff. I'm here talking. Let's talk some moving news and some other stuff, everybody. What's up? Hey, everybody. Once again, happy Monday.

Oh, man, lots going on. Lots going on. And I got to tell you, thank you for this week in general. Crazy week last week with the Disney Plus stuff and how that all went down. And talked about it. I did a little video here on about Disney Plus and what they did as far as the content goes. I thought the content was pretty good. I mean, there was a lot of stuff that we were promised already.

But nonetheless, that after. has a ton of shit on it. So it's, and in the good way. Got a ton of stuff on it. And they released a whole bunch of great movies on there and more content for people and announced more content, a lot of stuff again that we knew it was coming.

But it was less about the overall stuff that they gave us and more about the presentation and how it was done. It was like a tweet fest. And they built up their social media on it and they got viral videos out of it. And they got people to me about it. They confused anybody. over the age of 55 or 60 years old. If I go where?

To how to do what? Wait, what's a tweet? So you got to be, I don't know. I thought the presentation was pretty lackluster. I was expecting kind of an event. I know it wasn't the Disney presentation that they did last year because that was for investors. But I just think doing it in a string of tweets was not great.

But nonetheless, one of the movies that they put on there was Shang Chi. chance to check that out. I'm going to do a brief, I'll give my thoughts on it a little later in the show, but I'm going to do like a full spoiler review on the channel. I'll do a full review of Red Notice on the channel. I'm going to do a full review of Rocky versus Draggo. I'm seeing Ghostbusters. I'm doing a lot for this week. And I wanted to thank you guys because I don't listen to you. I told me you wanted to see me talk about this shit again and about stuff that I cared about talking about. And we're approaching 22,000 subscribers. We're ready. We're approaching 22,000 subscribers already. We've been on the air now in this channel for like two months.

I did change the name of the channel. We'll get into that later also. But yeah, man, we're having some fun. And I'm hoping you guys are having fun too. We have some great guests on. Corey Coleman was on recently. I got Matt Sarah coming on, former UFC Walterweight Champion of the world. He's going to be on the show soon. Ellis coming back. We got the Spider-Man rewatch is happening. The Sith Council. We got the last Star Wars movie were going to do. There's tons, tons, and I'm excited to be doing it with you guys. Well, let's get into the news here. This obviously, is, uh, is coming up in a little bit. Well, we'll, we'll get into that one. But the, the first one I really wanted to get into was this,

this, this Patty Jenkins story, right? Um, all right. So here is, here's what we are hearing. This particular one is from screen rant. And I'm reading my James Osborne. Here's the, I mean, this was this was this, this was this, I mean, this was this was this, I mean, this was this There was a delay, the indefinite delay coming up to Star Wars Film Roak Squadron. It's reportedly due to creative differences now between Lucasfilm and filmmaker Patty Jenkins. After a mixed response to 2019 Star Wars to Rise of Skywalker, I think that's being modest, or a little bit more generous. The Disney-owned production company has been focusing on creating multiple Star Wars TV series for Disney Plus.

The next of these to hit the streaming service, we book a Boba Fet, which will lead on from the events of the Mandalorian season two, and it's scheduled for release in December, despite the shift, direction. Multiple Star Wars spinoffs have been proposed in recent years, including a top gun-esque fighter pilot action from Wonder Woman director Jenkins. The initial release date of December 2023, the film was set to be the first in the franchise directed by a woman, and earlier in the year it was confirmed that a script was almost complete. However, it was recently announced that Rogue Squadron had been indefinitely delayed, with Disney removing it from their release calendar.

All right. So now in the latest edition of the reports that the delay is due to creative differences, this is from THR editor, Matthew Bologna. So rather than the scheduling conflicts, which, you know, I think every, we called that. I mean, I don't think too many people really believe that scheduling thing. Some people pushed back on saying that it was actually real, but it smelled like farts to me. Bologna, Bologna? I like, I love some bologna. I don't really like bologna.

Salami better. Anyway, let's go on. Bologna suggests the director came into conflict with the studio over the film script and states that Jankin was unwilling to dick around. I love that. That's why I like her a lot. She's getting tired of it. I can't, I can't wait to dive into this thing. Let's keep going. The report also indicates that disagreements between the filmmakers and Star Wars studio producers are becoming warringly frequent under the management of Kathleen Kennedy. Here's some of Bologna's, I really want, I want to at least try some Bologna now. Comments on this situation. stupid. The real culprit was the dreaded creative differences.

Specifically, Jenkins couldn't agree on the script with Lucasfilm executives. It's not unusual, of course, but it's laughable recurring problem over at Lucasfilm under President Kathleen Kennedy, say agents. Top filmmakers are dying to make a Star Wars movie until they sign on and experience the micromanagement and plot point by committee process. Jenkins wasn't willing to dick around. and she has other project, and only Wonder Woman 3,

Warner Brothers, where she enjoys more creative freedom. News of the delay might not come as surprise to Star Wars fans who have been coming used to this. Game of Thrones. Benny Off and Weiss were at one point. They were lined up that their plans never came to fruition. Ryan Johnson's plan trilogy has also been abandoned.

Even the rise of Skywalker struggled with differences with Colin Trivaro, who was replaced by J.J. Abrams. The delayed at Rogue Squadron means there are currently no upcoming Star Wars films with a definite release date. However, Jenkins movie did not, Jenkins movie did get further along in pre-production in other shelf Star Wars films, even releasing an official Rogue Squadron teaser. Fans will still hope that there is enough work done in the film to ensure that it is eventually released, even if Jenkins doesn't go on to helm the project.

Regardless of whether Rogue Squadron ever hits the big screen, the frequent cycle of disagreements in Lucas film could certainly indicate there are. significant issues for the future of Star Wars films. I mean, duh. I've been talking about this shit for a while now. I really, there's the thing. When we talked about this the other day, and we brought it up,

and whether it was on Sith Council, whenever we were bringing this up in the first place, said, I don't know. Scheduling, again, you signed on. You can figure out the scheduling. You'll make it work. When you initially do your deal, it's like, okay, I have this going on here so I can maneuver this. And then when it's like, okay, you know, we just don't want it to get out in the public again,

that this is another creative difference. Can we say, can we agree on scheduling? And that's what they came on. But then reporters do their thing and found out this is what really happened. You're not going to keep people too quiet on it. It is a problem. It's a massive problem. And it's funny because this morning I was looking at, I've been, if you're brand new to the channel, welcome, by the way.

And what I've been doing every weekend and, and, and, and, during the week as well as I've been responding to every comment that comes in. I think that it's the most important thing about YouTube, and I think people have lost that creators for sure. And it's not always that easy for everybody, but I spend a lot of hours and just responding to everybody to have a conversation because it also allows me to do things and bring up points like this. You know, somebody had brought up this morning about how it,

the scheduling and how it all, the creative process of it, and how it keeps happening, and I had brought up on Sid, this is what the particular commenter said, that he agreed with me that you can, the reason why Kathleen Kennedy is considered very successful in her reign during Star Wars, right? And I'm not talking to people, wait, what, what, what?

We're talking about money, right, in business. And you can give me the whole thing of, yeah, the Force Awakens made so much, but then if you look at the money that Last Jedi made, it made significantly less than the first one. Still made a billion dollars. Same thing with the last movie. It still made a billion dollars,

whatever, close to it, whatever it was. So those are wins. However, and I said, the other thing that you have to also give credit to is it seems like that Kathleen Kennedy is a lot more creatively, hands-off and more of, like, as where Patty Jenkins is talking about how she wanted this creative freedom

that she gets at Warner Brothers, that seems to be what Kathleen Kennedy is doing for TV. but it's not what she's doing for the films. And it's continuing to be a problem over there because there's a lot of money on the table when it comes to it, hence the billion dollars and all that stuff. So it's this formula, this micromanaging of what we want to do. I think it could be wrong,

but she doesn't want to go as inside baseball with a lot of the stuff and doesn't want to give as much creative freedom. And I think that they get, you know, trigger shy on the films now because of some of the backlash and fans not being on the same side. But as this guy was saying when he was commenting, he was saying that, yes, you have to give her credits for the win on television, right? But the problem is you also have to look at the problem of what's happening inside of the films of this continuous problem happening.

Because eventually, and I had equated it to owning a baseball team or owning any sports team, and you keep getting wins and you keep getting championships. But eventually if you are not managing the team the right way that fans are happy with, right? The season ticket holders are going to start, drop it off. And that's where the argument of the billion dollars, as opposed to the $2 billion or whatever it was, is a factor. And it certainly is a factor. There's no doubt about it. So I just, and I still have been saying this for a long time,

I don't understand when it comes to this. They're having this massive success with Mandalorian season one and two. And it has everything to do, everything to do with the broken record thing that I kept saying about, the paying homage to the things that inspired Star Wars as opposed to these, what you think is going to work commercially inside of film. It's the old school way of thinking as far as film goes. And what these, well, let's make Top Gun in space and then we'll do this and we'll do that. It's like, but yeah, but are you following the philosophies, right?

Are you, and I don't know what the, what the, what the creative differences were. I don't know, but it just, this report's not wrong when it keeps happening. And they didn't even mention, you know, the, Garrett Edwards, there's a big problem there. Tony Gilroy had to come in and fix it. Lord and Miller, they didn't mention Lord and Miller inside of that report. It's happened on almost every movie. And Ryan Johnson, he mentioned the trilogy not happening. You ever heard anything about it at all.

That's less about, I mean, projects, again, fall apart. I don't understand why they keep announcing things. You even announcing things like, wait, just wait until you start shooting before. I mean, even with that solo, they had all those problems. But what I don't understand is you've had this success. And it doesn't have to be a Kevin Feigy, but it has to be someone who is in the reins as the, if you're going to be the overall head,

Kathleen Kennedy's the overall head of everything, putting the philosophies of what she's doing very well in television. And it is not fair, though, that when people just, they just, look, I think the film division right now is a disaster. I think it's a disaster. I think that from this, from this adds to the disaster, from the way that the trilogy was handled, to the way that some of the actors were treated, the entire, the scripts on what they're deciding to make, what they're not deciding to make, the directions of things, the film division, whether you had wins or not, which I still think business-wise, there were a lot of wins in that.

Rogue 1 was a win financially, minus the problems on it. The new trilogy was a win financially, minus the problems created. But overall, the way that the films are being handled, it's a disaster. And it's why I feel that for me, and it has nothing to do with politics, it has nothing to do with all that, because you can't then start to put that the same thing towards television. because television has been handling, I think, correctly, and not just Mandalorian. From the way that they're then saying, okay, spin-offs here, connectivity, plans. Like, that's important.

It's important to say, okay, Boba Fett's going to show up here in season one. We're going to tease him. Inside of that tease, he's going to have a prominent part in the second season. He's going to have a big role. and then that's how we spin it off. Instead of just throwing this movie together that we're going to do, the Tales of the Bounty Hunter thing that we're just going to kind of throw. Boba Fett is a movie now, like Hans Solo.

He's got a movie now. Who's doing it? Josh Trank. Josh Trank's another person. He's gone. He was there and he was gone. So what the, and even the Obi-Wan movie was another one. Obam movie was a movie that they had set and they had the director of Billy Elliott and gone.

that anything in film just falls of pieces and then it's like TV's like, let us take it because we can do some good things with TV and now Obi-Wan's gonna be like the most anticipated thing. People will throw back. Well, even Obi-Wan had some shifts in, you know, showrunner and things like that. That's where I can start to say that happens in television sometimes.

It's hard to keep saying it in film. That happens sometimes. It happens every time with film. Every time. So it will, every time in Star Wars, Warsville. But if you're doing these things the right way inside of them, putting these plans together inside of TV, and I get it, it's different with Disney Plus. But Disney Plus, if I, if I'm Lucasfilm and I say, okay, you know what, I'm going to take a risk here. I can take the risk and I can put,

I can make an Acolyte series. If I'm Kathleen Kennedy, who, and before I say this, I want to make it very clear, you don't have to be a hardcore Star Wars fans and a fan and know all the ins and out to run Lucasfilm. You don't, but you should have someone like that who's running the creative and having these conversations with the director inside of the creative because it doesn't come off genuine if you think everything's inside baseball and you're just trying to do certain things when you clearly can do that because you're doing it from Andalorian. Because Favreau was an original trilogy guy. That's where his love came from, it was original trilogy. It wasn't, like, as deep dive into the, you know, the novels and all, and all that and the

animated, he was, he was a voice, obviously, in Clone Wars, but that's how he met Faloni. But what he did very well was come on into this process and learn more from Faloni, the way that Faloni learned from Lucas as far as the now as far as a filmmaker goes he's you know he's he's leaps and bounds over Faloni as far as that side of it that's not what I meant I'm talking about the philosophies of Star Wars and the understanding and he's picking it up and he's getting it and he spent and instead of doing like turning the Mandalorian into the Boba Fett series it's so can we can we maneuver this and place Boba Fett and they place it to where then he gets now when this book of Boba Fett thing comes out you're like wait a minute this is a gangster story I didn't know that that's I mean oh this is the guy that

we saw Tamara Morris and he popped up in season two. I care now. I didn't give a shit about a Boba Fett movie. I didn't care about a Boba Fett series. I couldn't give two shits if this guy was ever going to come back. Yeah, he got out of the story. I picked good for him. No, I care.

Now I want to know how because of setup. And this is why I've been singing from the hills, why television is so important. Because it just allows you to build and breathe. And to reiterate the point that I've said a million times over with film is that it's why these films are taken so hard. so long because you only have so much good grace with the fans in general after every film comes out, right? Because you only have a, it sits with you. Now, they were pushing out the new trilogy

movies every two years. Still two years. So if you, the Force Awakens, they got lucky with them. The majority of people, some people called it a rehash of New Hope and, you know, were saying, okay, okay, it's just a remake, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Most people felt the spirit back and they were excited about it. They're rogue one hit. So it was like, oh, they're back on a roll.

So it was like, and that was one year after Rogue one, right? So they're back in a roll. So by the time he got to Last Jedi and then it just set everything apart, then you only had two years to stew right after us, because Solo then comes out like five or six months after Last Jedi. And then you're just stewing in Star Wars.

What the hell's going on with Star Wars for like almost a year, almost two years. TV, wait a week, week until the next episode. I hated that episode. it was a bunch of filler. But then the next week, you're back in the good graces.

So I understand why they're worried about it. But I think it's a matter of, it's a matter of just having that creative piece. Put Filoni and Favro in charge of the whole damn creative side of it. Let them handle the films too. It can, because, and it's not a matter of them directing everything. Look at what's going on with Obi-Wan. Deborah Chow became a student of the philosophies,

of Star Wars and all of it. Like you watch that gallery series during Disney Plus. She's like, her eyes are wide and she's super excited and she's like, she, like you hear her, you see her listening and she looks like a little kid at Disneyland, like who's just so excited to be in this world. And you look at her episodes and it shows. I can't wait. And it's a brilliant move.

You give her the entire series for Obi-Wan. And she has learned all this stuff from Faloni and Favon. Row and she's just such a brilliant filmmaker in general. Watch what she does. And they would be able to do the same thing inside of film. And Kathleen Kennedy is a great producer. And don't take that away from her. From just because she's like, I guess, you know what? I understand because the argument can then be, well, how good of a producer is she if this keeps happening? Well, that's not a producer. That's the head. That is the head of Lucas film. I don't think she's doing a great job as the head of Lucas film right now. because, as I said, as a producer on the Mandalorian,

producer on TV, she's crushing it. Doing a great job. Problem is, there's a whole side of where Star Wars built on, and that's film. And when Patty Jenkins doesn't want to dick around because she's got other things to do, it's a problem. It's a problem. And if it happens, it is an issue

if it keeps on happening again. And then Chapic, I don't, all I know is that, I just feel like the Benny Hill music should start playing every time this guy makes a speech at this point. point. He's not getting the respect. He certainly doesn't have the respect. Respect is Bob Eiger. You know, that's going to be hard to do in general. But I don't know, man, this is interesting. Obviously, I didn't mean to spend as much time on it, but it's just, it's a massive thing.

It's a massive thing. Let's, let's move on. You got more stuff to talk about, but I am, but comment below. Let's have the conversation about it. What do you think overall? Even if you were on, You know, maybe for a long to be. There was, I saw comments recently. Like, look, I think Kathleen Kennedy is a good producer, but you have to acknowledge after a while when this keeps happening, it's an issue. Do you think it's not an issue still?

It's not a pile-up thing. This is just like anybody. Again, going to that baseball team manager, it's like after a while, you've got to say, is this the right person to manage the team? Is it time to move on? I'm not going to be able to find another gig. She doesn't want it. I also don't understand why she wants to keep doing it.

this, Star Wars, that is. You know, she's, she could do, she's, she's been around forever. She's super successful. She's a great producer. She had a lot of championship wins, minus just Star Wars under her belt. So she's not like she's going to be hurting for work

if she decides to move on and go somewhere else, but I don't know what it is. She wants to keep doing it. But again, it's like, you look at that television side and what's going on over there and the wins that are happening, although no announcements, Obi-One or when that trailer is coming out and or, I don't know.

It's a mess. It's a mess. All right, let's move on. Moving on to the next story as Patty. Patty Jenkins, we know that was going on. So what's the next one here? Let's see. There's some other stories.

Speaking of Disney, let's just stick with Disney here. And there's Disney Plus. Where is it? I got it. It's a little. It's little. Blow it up for you guys. So there is a report.

We read the report on what's going on with Disney Plus, because I think speaking of Chapic, he was talking about what they're going to do next year and how they're going to change their plan or what they're going to do with it in general. Apparently they're going to stay flexible

with the release strategy. This is from Dark Horizons, who says Universal, started the ball rolling with the Trolls World Tour, and then Warner's went the biggest with their entire 2021 slate going day and date Day and date, I really want that to continue.

I know you guys aren't with me on that, but I do. But Disney has written its own chapter in the great streaming film release experiments of the past two years. Now, Disney sent five films to its premier access servers, which day and date theatrical releases on the Disney Plus service for those willing to pay premium pricing. Others like Seoul, Luca, and less prestigiously Artemis Fowl, were sent straight to regular Disney Plus without any additional cost. This week, speaking to investors during a fourth quarter, order earnings call. Chapick says they're going to be flexible with their strategy towards exclusive theatrical windows as opposed to other studios who have made reaffirmations towards exhibitors.

Chapic says we're sticking with our plan of flexibility. We're still unsure in terms of how the marketplace is going to react when family films come back with the theatrical first window. While COVID will be in the rearview mirror, God willing, I think change in consumer behavior will be more permanent. We're watching very, very carefully, different types of We used to see how the different components of the demographics of that market come back. You'll notice that the films we are putting into the marketplace that are theatrical and our family films have a fairly short window. We're doing that so we can get our films quicker to Disney Plus, but at the same time, see if the theatrical market can kick back into full gear as we prime the pump with these films. Chapic also says those days of big presentations, Marvel's phase slate announcements last year, Star Wars Investor Day's presentation, are pretty much over.

Boo! As a studio will hold its cards closer to the chest in the future. Stupid. We're going to do what's best for our shareholders, ultimately. Big Shock. We don't announce our films that far in advance like we used to because we know we're in a time flux and change. We'll get some of that. Disney has more recently committed to a theatrical exclusive releases with some working out,

like Shang-Chi with $430 million and some not. 20th Studios, the last duel with $26 million. That should have definitely been on the streaming service. It's also recently experimented with PVOD. strategies as well as several premier premium access titles like cruela and jungle crews arrived on pvod services like iTunes and amazon one month after the premier access released and two to three months before the regular Disney Plus releases on the other hand shang chi opted to try a simultaneous pvod on other services and regular no additional fee Disney Plus release this week source

slash film on that one all right um a couple things here with this this is just an overall thing So I'm not going to give chapter too much crap on this because who knows what the hell it's going to be like soon, right? Who knows? It keeps changing. And that's why I bring up the HBO Max thing. I don't even know. HBO Max is, I don't know, they're not going to stick to that same schedule because they pissed off too many filmmakers. They don't want to do that.

They probably just said, hey, we're just doing it for this year because we didn't know what was happening. And I think the strategy was right. I'll probably do a 30 to 45 day. I don't love the Disney Plus thing that they do. I don't love it. Because for me, it's, I'm a Disney Plus subscriber. And, you know, if I'm paying an extra 30 or 45 bucks to 30 bucks, whatever it is to get a movie, well, why am I paying for your service?

You know, I get, like, if you're putting it on Amazon and Apple and everything and then you're charging like 20, 30 bucks for it, I get it. but I should have access to it if that's what I'm a subscriber. It's like I am investing in your company by doing that. I'm not an investor per se, but I am an investor in choosing the money that I make from work that I'm putting into your service because you're entertaining. You got a lot of stuff that I want to see,

but you're going to also charge me an extra 30 bucks to do that? I don't know. I don't love it. I don't love that plan for Disney Plus. I do understand having it on the separate services and doing it that way. If you're not a Disney Plus subscriber and you want to get art, you want to get it. Well, instead of paying that 20 or 30 bucks, so you put Shang Chi out when it comes out. And Disney Plus, you get it.

That's, that's, well, whether it's 30 days later or whatever it might be. You know, okay, I get it. But if I'm not, I'm not a subscriber to Disney Plus, but shoot, I keep wanting to see these movies. the Marvel ones, the Star Wars movies are coming out, I might as well just subscribe. You're paying extra 30 bucks? I don't like that plan, but it seems like it did okay for them. So what the hell do I know about it? But I think it's just a matter of the titles, like they said, Luca, Cuella, other ones.

The last duel, because you heard Ridley Scott was coming all pissy now, you know, blaming superhero movies and everything too, which is, things change, man, what people want to see and what they want to spend money on in the theaters. And streaming has changed it, too. just superhero movies, guys, that have changed comic book movies. It's not to, it's a matter of what you want to see when you go to a theater

and what you want to spend. I know that the old school film people, they want to have this idea that everything needs to be seen in the theater because that's the way it was built out on, but that's not the way it is for people. It's the same way, like, you know, listening to music now. Oh, man, we should be listening to records. Records are great. Not everybody's

going to be into records, because now you can just press play on your computer and you can get any song that you want things change that's that's part of it i get the film purest part of it and i and i love the fact that everybody's got to run out and want to go see every movie in the theaters but people don't want to spend money for it because it's like last duel something i i'd be you know what i'm going to watch that with my wife i'm going to call up on like a friday night check it out and i'm going to watch that movie with her because we want to see that movie we want to watch it i can go to the theater to see it i didn't go to the screening to see it. It probably would have been great in the theater. Look, I know people

have still given me shit about seeing Dune. I have a pretty nice TV back here. Listen to the surround sound. I loved it. Put on the subtitles. One of my favorite movies of the year, if not my favorite. Didn't hurt the experience for me. I'm sure it would have been incredible. And I'm sure that if I saw it in IMAX that, you know, would have lost my mind. It was hard for me because it was. It was hard for me, I had seen Eternals the night before. It's hard for me to go two nights in a row. It's not like the old school schmose days. I've got two kids now.

I'm just like, you know, back-to-back days. It's like, it's space them out. I'm going to see Ghostbusters tonight. We'll have a review on the channel as soon as the embargo is done, by the way. Anyway, the one thing like Chapix says, though, it's going to change. It's going to continue to change. I don't like the idea that they're not doing these announcements. I think that's fun to do those events, the Marvel big things that they used to do

and the, I think I also understand, though, because look at this Patty Jenkins situation, you announce something big, and then it falls apart, and then you get shit for it. So that part of it I get. Lots, lots happening, lots going on. I want to move into some stuff here. And the question is, I know a lot of you guys are still wiping your ass with toilet paper, right? And I get it. It's what people told you to do.

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And I guess, and like I said, I'm going to be doing some more reviews overall. Like, so the Rocky 4 Drago, Rocky versus Drago cut. I'm going to do like a, full spoiler review on my channel.

So this is going to be just the non-spoiler one. So it was like a one-day thing. So Stallone had, well, let's rewind. Stallone talked about wanting to recut Rocky 4, and call it Rocky versus Drago, posted on his Instagram. He's been talking about, I think, during, he was just an initial cleanup. Then his buddy, who I announced,

I interviewed with Devon Sawa shoot for a escape plan two. Is that what it was? I can't remember. I can't remember the guy's name. John, I can't remember anyway. So he directed, he started filming Slime at this,

as they were going to direct, as he's making his cuts to this movie. And there was this documentary that they put on YouTube and they dropped it. And even Stallone was like, what are you doing? You're making a documentary? Who the hell's going to watch this?

And it's got like, I think, 400,000 views, 500,000 views, maybe more, I don't know. But it's great and it's so inspirational. It really is. The documentary was so inspirational. It's just what he wanted to do, looking at himself as a man and realizing the failures that he had had

and the what-ifs and he has this great conversation with the audience where he's like, if there's anybody out there who says that you wouldn't go back and do things differently, you're full of shit basically. And he's like, there's always things. And I'm learning. And you see his idea of why he wants to change

it, the story of how he wanted to turn it more into a drama. There wasn't everything I agreed with. He says at Rocky, at the end of it, he says Rocky's not a sports film. Of course it is. And he's like, it's a drama. You can still be a sports film and be a drama. Of course it's a sports film. It's like saying that Major Leach is just a comedy.

It's a sports comedy. It's a sports drama. Of course it's a sports film. And it's the essence of what sports are and the fight, what sports are supposed to be about. It's not just what winning and losing. It's about the determination. It's pure sports.

But anyway, that's the documentary itself great. So I was very curious, and what the documentary does very well is it gets you very interested in wanting to watch this cut. I really, I wanted to see it anyway because I'm a diehard Rocky fan. And to go into this, by the way, Rocky 4, I always enjoyed. I think the Rocky 4 fight was incredible. The setup between Rocky and Drago, but it's a very, and he says as much in the documentary.

It's a very, it's like a movie, it's a music video. and for the most part, it's not very, it's not as structured and as thought out as I thought the other three movies were. Like the other three movies, I can place them back and forth as far as when I watch them, which one hit for me more. I can sometimes I can put two over one, and I can put one over two. One, two, and three are interchangeable as my favorites. Like I always find things new and that I love about them.

Rocky Four always, like Rocky Four and Rocky Five were similar to me. If Rocky 4 would have ended in a street fight with Rocky and Draghi. It would have been one of the worst movies of all time. But it didn't. It ended in the ring. As silly as it was with the Russians cheering Rocky at the end of it, right? Fun moment. Fun moment.

But it would have been terrible if they didn't fight in the ring. Same thing of Rocky 5, rest in peace, Tommy Morrison. If he would have fought Rocky in the ring at the end of 5 and Rocky would have bounced back and said, okay, we were kind of off medically on his thing. He actually can fight, and he did, and he beat Tommy Morrison in the ring. Much better film.

I know some people like the street fight. It's not what Rocky's all about. And that's when I think he started to get into that drama thing and all that, which is, again, you can be a drama. And still the basis of why we love Rocky for four movies was because he was fighting in the ring, not in the street. My ring's outside. it. So that, all that being said, so Rocky Ford, and it was very short. It's easy to watch. It's like an hour and 25 minutes. So the idea of turning it into like a full on drama. And then he admits so in this drama, in the documentary that he wouldn't have killed Apollo. You would have put him in a wheelchair. And I still, that part I think that they should have kept Apollo around. But then again, what happens to Creed and all that? Because I think Creed 1 and 2 are fantastic. So Rocky versus Drago.

It starts out, and again, without full spoilers, more so there's a recap of Rocky 3, which in every Rocky 2, 3 and 4, even 5, it starts off with the Rocky letters kind of going into it, and then you see a recap of the last fight. It's been that since Rocky 2. This is less of that. Well, this is more recap, but not of the fight itself. It's all the stuff leading up to it of what happened. And I guess maybe it's a recap. I was like back and forth on whether or not I liked it or not because I was like, well, this is a 30-year-old movie.

So for people who are watching this, who may not have seen Rocky 3 recently. When Rocky 4 came out, it was only, what, three years removed or something like that? Or two years removed, whatever it was. It was, okay, so that's, this is different. You can't just assume that everybody knew Rocky 3. Like me, I know, like the back of my hand.

But understanding what he's trying to do and building up that relationship. with Apollo because it's more about Apollo. That was fine. I said, okay. It is a lot of, in the beginning, that's kind of setting you up to, he cut a lot of stuff out, though.

Now, what I thought he was going to do, because he mentioned he was cutting the robot out, so he knew that was gone, and I get it. There was a lot of humor that was cut out of this film, but anything needed to be cut out of the film. Because it didn't, because it's not like, because Pauley still has some humor, but it plays towards the end of the movie.

but there's a lot of stuff that Paulie had in the beginning that I thought was gone. His son's basically cut from it. He cut all of Brigitte Nielsen stuff like gone. And I don't know if that was like because of a thing because, you know, they were together at one point. They weren't. I don't know what their relationships like now, but she is an afterthought. She has got like one or two lines. There was a great line in that movie right before the exhibition match between Apollo and Drago.

And Brigitte Nielsen comes up to Apollo's wife and says that, you know, talks about like the uh it gives them like gives her speech of like look they're they're sportsmen not uh not soldier whatever she says to him and then she goes and sits down and she's then she smokes the cigarette she says it's like they that's gone any when she's at the press conference asking the report is why there's the sympathy she she tries to get sympathy a couple times right throughout the movie and that's gone right the sun the stuff with the sun is basically gone cut a lot of stuff out i didn't think needed to be cut out there were certain things that he did Like there's a scene with him and Apollo.

Again, I don't want to go too spoiler into it. I'll get more into that when I review it. But there was a lot of things that were cut that anything needed to be cut. And then the music video stuff that I said, okay, we're going to cut down on that. That's still there. Mine is some, you know, instead of in color, some of the stuff is black and white. And all the James Brown stuff is still there. The two videos, the montages, they're all there.

Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot that I didn't know, needed to. A lot didn't need to be changed. There's some new stuff that he put in that I thought could have just been added to the original cut, like additional scenes. Because this movie's still an hour and a half. I thought it was going to be like almost two hours,

like adding some stuff, but he cuts so much that it's still an hour and a half. It's a lot of stuff I just didn't think needed to be cut. Now, my favorite part about this Rocky 4 is the same thing I liked about the original Rocky 4 is the fight. It's changed. It's different. He gives, there's, he repeats a few shots. that you see a couple different times that he repeats that like you know there's one point

when Paul is rubbing Duke's head early too early and then he does it again and it takes it away from it so but overall the fight's a little bit more brutal um it does link to creed more this one links to creed more like if you watch this one it links better to creed to but that's it i mean that's brief stuff i'll go more heavy into it when i when i review it on the channel but um but yeah you guys check it out did you like it what you think i'm curious uh all right let's get back into some news i'm telling you we got a lot we got a lot today this might be a little longer run episode so bear with me everybody uh what else we got going on we got the disney stuff we got going on oh some box office stuff uh eternals i think just beat out

Clifford. I watched Clifford with my kids. Cute movie. It's not, you know, rush out and need to go see it if you're not a... But I really, I enjoyed it with the kids. It was pretty formulaic, but nonetheless, I enjoyed it. It was, well, let's see what the overall... What it is, box office, Eternals holds off Clifford, is what they say on the dark horizons.

And what they're saying is that Marvel's Eternals, retain the box office crown, at the U.S. box office this weekend, pulling in a further $27.5 million and now hitting $118 million on the domestic front. It fell 61% from its debut, comparatively Shang-Chi fell 52% and Black Widow fell 67%.

Internationally, Eternals fared much better with a further $48 million added, a softer drop of 49%. After two weekends of release, the film's global tally sits at $281 million. Coming in second was the family film, Clifford the Big Red Dog, which overcame weak critical reviews. I understand that.

It's not, it's, it's, it seems like it should have been on Paramount Plus, probably exclusively. It seems like a directed DVD movie back in the day. But my kids loved it. So I guess maybe that's why I, why I enjoyed it. Um, I probably would have been a little bit more, a little less forgiving had I'd seen this with Ellis a few years ago. Dune came in third with 5.5 million, stands at 93 million in the United States and 351 million globally.

That's great. 400 million? Good for doing. With internationally pulling a further 6.8 million this weekend, the movie's now close to about 400 million. No time to die. That one I haven't seen yet. It was fourth with 4.6 million following seven weekends, close to 700 million globally, with over 558 million. Someone told me that was a bomb. What the hell are they talking about? 700 million globally? It's the biggest overseas grocer of not 2021, but over the entire pandemic era, overtaking fast night. I talked about how it was. made money internationally and I had somebody, some commenter saying how I was crazy that it

lost money. It's $700 million. The hell you want it to do. Not everything makes a billion. Marvel and Sony's Venom, uh, let there be carnage, also hit a milestone becoming only the second film to pass the 200 million mark at, did it really? Holy shit, at the U.S. domestic box office this year. Wow.

As it was in fifth place in the weekend with a further $4 million, $200 million dollars that movie made, good for that movie. I haven't seen that thing. But I like Andy Circus. So on the limited release from Kenneth Braun has acclaimed black and white autobiographical film, Belfast, managed to hit seventh place with $1.8 million

with 580 domestic theaters. Okay. I mean, there's really not much to say there. You know, it's Eternals. Probably going to drop off pretty soon. And it already has domestically, you know. But it's still used. still in this era where numbers are, they got a gauge numbers differently than they did a while

ago, but hell man, $200 million for, for Venom. It's pretty good. I wonder how much that movie made. It would cost to make, how much to make. I just told you, stupid, I made $200 million. How much it cost to make? Because I can't imagine it. I don't know. I'm sure that Tom Hardy's price tag went down a little because he's producing it. So I wonder how much. I'm not going to look it up. You guys look it up. You can tell me in the comments section.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's one more thing. There's one more thing because this is tomorrow. Tomorrow's going to be a mass. massive day for everybody. All right, Clifford, take it easy, will you? So is that it? There it is. That's the new poster for Spider-Man that they dropped.

It came out. And that's, after doing this whole re-watch, the Spider-Man movies, if you haven't checked it out, please do. I've been doing them every Friday. Myself, Winston Marshall, and Coyce Andrew. There's a playlist of the actual movies as well, and I'll put an eye card in there. So you can check that out if you want to watch it.

But after looking at the last, we just finished Homecoming. There's always that criticism about Homecoming that it's like more of an Ironman movie than a Spider-Man movie. And I never felt that way. I think that he's in it. And he's in it for like 15 minutes total, Iron Man. It's a complete Spider-Man movie, in my opinion. Well, this one, you know, when they put Dr. Strange on there, like, oh, you got to rely on Dr. Strange. this is going to lead into the multiverse stuff and all that and it plays into it.

And we're so far along the side of the MCU in general and where it ultimately goes. But it's less about that and more about the fact that they're doing like a whole trailer event for this thing. Because this is how big this movie is already becoming. People want to go see this trailer in the theaters for like an event. And it's like special guests. Is it going to be Toby and Andrew and all that? And I haven't really talked about the leaks. I talked to Campia the next day.

not about necessarily what happened, but like more so just, because I think people pile up and shit on people when they, you know, look, if you, if you fucked up and sent the pictures out and didn't, and didn't know that he was doing it,

then he didn't know he was doing it. And he fucked it and he moved on. You know, so he would have felt terrible if it turns out to be the thing. I just don't necessarily know about, in general. But anyway, that being said,

the movie, the trailer, It comes out tomorrow. It's Tuesday. And this thing's going to just tear the internet up. It's going to be massive, right? I'll be doing a reaction to it, definitely, because I'm very excited for this film.

I want to check it out. Probably do more of like an in-depth breakdown of the trailer on Big Thing on Wednesday. But the trailer reaction itself will be tomorrow, and everybody and their mother's going to be doing one, right? Everybody and their mother's going to be watching all of them because they want to see all the excitement from it. Yeah, I mean, did I think that Toby and Andrew were in it beforehand? Yeah, it made sense.

The second, they put Doc Gawk in there, and I get it. I was saying, and I talked to a bunch of people. They said, I would rather have seen them in the movie, been surprised, watched the moment, how it happened. Whether or not they put them in the trailer or not, because that's the question everyone's talking about. Is Sony going to put them in there now that the leaks come out, is Sony going to put them in there? Because everybody knows they're in there anyway. They're going to get excitement to it. and I'm related to myself.

John Roker, we just got him, we just announced that he's going to have a match to spectacular. And if you're a patron, you'll find out today who that person is. So I told people that on the Facebook group that if you're a patron, you're going to find out on Wednesday, you'll find out exactly who's playing. People are, well, why don't you just tell us at spectacular? You know, if it was a spectacular, just kind of a surprise when we were there,

we won't know. Well, there's two sides. that. For the people who already bought the tickets and people who are there, that experience, that's true. You'll be there, you'll be sitting and then you'll like, oh, okay, I know he's playing someone, but I don't know who. But the flip side of that is, if when we announce who it is and we start promoting it who it is, then the people who, A, didn't know about the event in general, didn't know who he was playing, then say, oh, well, I want to, I either do want to see that even more, I don't want to see. And the people who got the tickets go, well, I, I don't.

was excited before. But man, either I'm really excited now or, okay, now I know who he's playing. And the same goes to be with Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield, right? It's like, okay, we saw these pictures. Do I think that they're real? I do. Do I think that the Charlie, the other shoot?

Sorry? See, that's the thing, is that not everybody wanted to see the leagues. So do I think there's other things that I saw? I'm sorry if I fucked that up for people that didn't see it because I'm just talking about it as if I thought everybody thought. But do I think other things inside of those pictures? Yeah, I do. I think they're real. I'll put a warning in there that I talk about the spoilers a little bit. But anyway, Toby and Andrew, if they're in the movie and they show them in the trailer, it promotes the movie more.

Because remember, as big as this movie is, I'm telling you, I'm going to try to, I've been trying to do this every time. I try to call John Pinto. And he's my buddy, from home. He's a movie fan. He never knows what the fuck's going on. He probably would have no idea that there's a, that there's a, uh, a series about Obi-1. Probably there's no idea about this movie in general. As far as no way home,

I try to call him and see if he picks up. I work in is the thing. Um, he never picks up. I'm just try to get him to pick up because, because my point is, if they start to promote, like to Pinto, if they promote to him and tell him that Toby and Andrews, wait a minute, these guys are coming back.

This is another one in the same movie? People are going to start talking more with that marketing. So I understand both ways. Either way. All right, that comes out. And that's it. Let's get into a couple more things here. And then I'm going to get into some questions.

I promise you guys I would answer. I pull some questions from my Facebook group, and I want to make sure that I honor that. I will do that. I have some of those questions. So it'll be a little bit of a longer episode today. So let's get back to, or so there's a poster. I do like that poster, though.

I like that poster better than the other one. The multiverse kind of coming in on them, and you got the arms and the goblins in the back there. I like this poster significantly better than the other one that they released the other day. All right, let's see. What's this one? You know, I'll bring this up.

I started watching Red Notice last night. This is not going to be a full review one. because I'm not done with it yet. There's not going to be a spoiler review. This reminds me, my wife, as we're watching it halfway through, she's like, is this meant for kids? Because it's definitely a soft PG-13. The Rock and Ryan Reynolds are pretty much playing characters

that they've played a million times over, right? I actually think Al-Qadot is the best part of this movie because she's doing something a little different than she normally does. and I think she has a lot of fun with this role. The movie itself is basically rock is, he's a FBI profile of art cop. And he's hunting down Ryan Reynolds, who is the number one art thief in the world,

or maybe even number two. And some mysterious art figure, or art thief who's doing some other stuff. But Cleopatra's and Mark Anthony's eggs that they had, like these jewels. And trying to get all three of them. It's like a national treasure, trying to do like an Indiana Jones thing.

But it's, I, I don't know if I would like either one of these characters if it wasn't The Rock and Ryan Reynolds because I like both of them very much. Both of those guys, two of my favorite actors. Because I, like, Free Guy, love Free Guy. One of my favorite movies I've seen this year. It's up there. And it was one of Ryan, it was like Ryan Reynolds' Truman Show, right? and his, he was super likable.

He's not very likable in this movie. He's just overall obnoxious in it. And even some of the stuff that he's doing is just, it's just, it's just nonstop, like just the Ryan Reynolds joke, like there's nothing, like, look at a movie like, what the hell was the one with Sandra Bullock that he was in? Proposal. And that one, he's got his quips,

but he's got like a range to the character of what the character was. This is just quip after quip after quip, where he's like, and then they throw in some backstory here and there. Same thing with the Rocks, got to come a back story. But he's pretty much just like he's the same character as in Fast Five, but not as, but not as much depth as that character. And not as cool.

This character is less cool than that character, but it's like his brother. But it's like, but he's the less cool brother. And Gal Gadot is, is very different. And I like what she's doing this. But it's funny because do I think the movie is very good?

Not really. is it an entertaining watch? Yeah, there's some, they have really good chemistry, Rock and Ryan Reynolds, and then once Gogodot gets involved, there's some fun stuff there, but it's not,

and I got a couple laughs out of some of the things that, I think Ryan Reynolds is less bearable in the first, Ryan Reynolds' character is less bearable in the first 30 minutes, and then he gets better. But I still want to see how it ends. I'm curious on how it ends. It's not one of the things like,

oh, this is unwatchable. It's just, it's just, like a kind of a just throw away early 2000s action piece if that makes sense i don't know i got to finish it up maybe maybe it ends maybe it ends strong uh what but it was very very much watched by a lot of peeps last one shang chit all right so this is a non-spoiler as well i'm going to do a full spoiler on on the channel probably a little later today um so I had seen Eternals first missed this one. I was not ready at the time to go back to theaters.

I am now, but I wasn't at the time when this came out. So I missed it. And I wasn't doing the... Oh, I don't think they had the premium thing for this one. I think they were just waiting for it to come out and release. So I had heard some really good things about it. There's a lot I loved about this movie. A lot.

Overall, it's a pretty solid film. There's some stuff I didn't like. some of the humor didn't land for me for sure and that happens a lot Marvel film some of it seemed formulaic some of the stuff that happened I was like oh yeah I'm not sure how much I'm invested enough to care about that but it is shot beautifully the martial arts are incredible in this film I really liked the performances by everybody there's some surprises in it and I liked the idea of the kind of the fantastical world they put together the relationship

father and son that they had the 10 rings and the Aquafina had some fun stuff to do inside of it and there was a lot that I loved so overall I really enjoyed the film I just and I also don't know if maybe it was hype behind it

maybe I heard a lot beforehand but it I was invested from from start to finish there's no doubt about it I was invested but yeah I don't know I just I think if you asked me what I like better I like the turnils better I know not everybody's

I'm going to the same page with me on that, but this was more inside of the formulaic stuff in Marvel that I've seen a million times over. There's different stuff, for sure. There's different things, and it's a different style of, I mean, the martial arts, there's no doubt about it.

It's like, mind-blowing. But it seemed to me the origin story of certain things I've seen before were to me, and I know not everyone feels the same way, but Eternals, it was a different kind of science fiction film that I wasn't expecting. So that's why I added the two of them, if you ask me which ones I liked better. It was that one.

But I still enjoyed Shung-Thi very much. I'll do a full spoiler review on it in general. In this today, maybe, I'll try. I'll see what I can do. It just depends. I'm trying to get the rocky one done. I'm trying to get that. And red notice, I'll wait because I'm not done with you yet.

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The link in from my Facebook page is here in the description. So I asked for questions on episodes like this. probably going to do another one of these maybe even on Wednesday because of the Spider-Man trailer and I won't get anyone over here in time so I might do another one just breaking down that trailer or talking about that trailer. But either way, before I get into that,

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All right. So what we're going to do now, I had asked you guys for some questions. And you guys send in some questions. So I took a couple of them, and I will read them, and then I will answer them. That's the point of questions. Here's the first one from Luke Stutter. For branding, how can we change? the S-E-N network to Christian Harlow.

Curious if you had any ideas how the media day for spectacular is going to look like and any updates on how you're handling the Chandru match. Let's start with the first part. So, as far as branding goes, if you notice when you go to the banner of this channel, it says S-E-N presents. The same will be said for the movie trivia Shmoda. S-E-N presents. The brand itself is the Shmodon Entertainment.

network. The idea was to take everything from, it was too complicated on the other channel, right? There was just too much stuff going on there. It was Schmodeown. It was big thing. It was S-C-N live. It was reviews. It was, it was backstage. It was just everything. And I said, well, you got to be, you got to have an identity of what you want each channel to be. So we separated, we made the decision to make sure that that was that. And then we said, well, we got to have a placeholder for what it is overall. And it's still S-E-N overall. So S-E-N will be Shmode Entertainment Network

and I start doing all these trailer reactions and I start doing all these reviews and every big thing is just me. I was like, for a long time,

people are, where's, like when you do a search for any of the, a lot of the pundits out there, it's their name. So I was like, well, what if we just do?

S-E-N. presents and then it's just me. And I do all this stuff because the big thing's still here, Sith Council, none of those, it's not like, it's not the Christian-R-R-W

Star Wars show, the Christian of, podcast. It's the big thing. This is the big thing. And so we just thought it made a little bit more sense to do it that way. It seems to be working. People seem to like the change. So that's why as far as Media Day, you get some updates on it. We're doing a full press conference with all the Shmodan Media. That'll be coming soon. The other thing was Chandrew. Just keep watching all the scenes. That's all I can say about that. All right. Going back to thank you again, Luke. Let's go to the next one here.

Jordan Victor Anderson. Hello, Christian Harle. I appreciate the opportunity to ask you a question. Thank you for asking. Question. What advice would you give to someone looking to grow their podcast audience, specifically when related to movies? I ask because even though you don't solely do podcasting,

I feel you have put in a lot of work to build your audience ever since the early days of Shmo's know. Great question, Jordan. Thank you very much. So I mentioned it earlier in this episode. staying connected to your community is the most important no matter what no matter what having conversations with them because this is why I think a lot of people sometimes get lost in it it was why YouTube and social media platforms like this that became popular because you could

be connected Twitter and Facebook included in this you can be connected to people that you normally couldn't back in the day you watch someone on television and you say oh man I like that person but you can't tell them and they can't respond to you and you can't have a conversation with them. This is something that was very different that when Ellis and I started Schmo's, we made it very clear that we need to connect and find out who the audience is.

It's why we were very adamant about creating Schmobile and doing all that stuff. And it's also why I've been so clear about why, to me, this today, I have never had more fun and I think that out of all the shows they've ever done, big thing is Sith Council, easily my favorite shows that I've ever done and I've had the most fun,

ever doing. I think Sith Council is a far superior show than anything I ever did on Jedi Council. It's not, it's not stuffy. It's not, I'm not forced to talk about certain things, just have conversations the way they used to about far, far away, which was ultimately what led into getting into Jedi Council. But staying connected to the audience and paying and not, and when you're doing it to start, if you get frustrated with the fact that people, aren't listening right away, you're done. You just, or if it, if it makes you stop, then you're done. So I had a friend recently who wanted to do a podcast and was like, oh, yeah, I can do, I can do the podcast. And I was giving the person advice and saying, okay, do a little YouTube thing. That's too much work.

I'm like, it's work. It's not just talking. You got to put in the work. And that's, that's, that's my thing is that I think that this channel, like I have goals, right? And set yourself, set goals. They don't have to be big goals. They can be smaller goals or they can be big goals, whatever you want to do. But set yourself goals and stay committed to it and stay and just let your voice. What's unique about your voice? You know, have certain people in there. Have a social media presence.

As much as I hate social media, it's very important. And you can, you know, use it for certain clipouts and things and play off of things that people are talking about, right? But that you have to be interested in talking about. I made that clear about this. Like I didn't want to start just doing reviews and like the reactions that you see me do. It's all stuff that I care about. Now, you can very much just chase down the IPs and chase down what you think is super popular. A lot of people do it.

And nothing against people who do it. That's great. That's how people make their living on certain things. I just wanted to do stuff that I actually give a shit talking about. But you should do the same or you should, you know, just find what you enjoy talking about and your audience will be there. They'll get there. But stick with it.

Alex Tournay. Will you include the Animatrix as part of your Matrix where you watch for the big thing? And do you think a Matrix-type series on HBO Max will happen? If this new film is a success, there is no, sorry, there's so much potential in room for storytelling in that universe that would be a shame not to explore it.

Thoughts? There's nothing that you're saying here that I don't agree with. So the first part of your question, yes, Animatrix is absolutely part of it. It is canon. It is part of the overall story. The question is, when do we watch it? Do we watch it second? Because I think it connects.

I think I even think that Animatrix even works before Matrix. If I remember correctly, I haven't seen it in a while. So I don't know yet. I've got to see. We haven't started planning it out yet on the watch order on how we're going to do it. But it's going to be myself and Koi and, Kate Mulligan, who's never seen a single Matrix movie. And we wanted to take a different approach this time.

Winston will be back for the Batman movies. And I think that once Matrix is over, Winston, myself, and Coy are just going to start doing episodes of big thing together. People seem to like the three of us together. And I have a blast talking with those guys. So, but as far as Matrix series go, I think it's just a, like you said, it's a matter of success. If they set it up the right way and they open it up to where it could be something,

that'd be great. And keep it open and don't kill Neo. I just feel like this is going to be something where you just feel like they're going to kill Neo because they should. You shouldn't. Don't kill them. Yeah.

So I think it's possible. For our HBO Macs series, they're certainly probably going to be talking about it. It just depends on the success of it. But let's see how this one goes before we start making plans on that. But I like the idea. I think that's, is one more, one more. Randy Avalini.

Abanel, not even close to Avalini, sorry, my friend. Randy Avanel. You mentioned a while back that you might try to hold a kind of live stream telethon or go fund me to raise money for the facts and surprise at the end of the season. Have you thought more about that? Also, will there be an after spectacular gathering where we can buy you all a drink or three? I don't know about the gathering. I'm certainly going to be going home because I'm probably going to be exhausted.

But I don't know about a gathering afterwards. it usually always is one at the end. So just, you know, keep your ears for the ground. I'm sure you'll find something there for sure. As far as the GoFund me, yes. That I'm hoping to make an announcement forward the next couple days. Because what happened was for people who aren't aware,

the factions were supposed to be playing for a big prize at the end of the year. And the idea was put enough merch out there for the factions. And then once we got to a certain amount, a percentage of that profit would go to the prize. Sold shirts, but there was not enough. enough for a profit. So there was no percentage of it. So they're playing for big fat goose egg right now.

I can't let that stand. I got to figure out a way to have them play for something. So what I think I'm going to do is to start the GoFundMe, tell the audience what we're doing, do a full live stream to push people to that GoFundMe. And then hopefully, you know, there's going to be like tears, right? If we hit a certain report amount, that will go to the full prize. We get past that. Then we'll start pushing to the second place, third place, fourth place. So, yeah, that's coming soon.

soon. Hopefully within the next day or two, I can announce it officially, but it's very close to becoming reality. All right, listen, it was the show. It was a fun one today. It was a long one, like I said. There's more stuff to talk about, but we'll talk. I mean, the Spider-Man thing's going to take over everything. So the trailer will be out tomorrow. I'll do a trailer reaction for it. I'll pace out my reviews over the next couple of days leading up to the trailer reaction. And then I'm going to, Ellis was supposed to come over tomorrow morning. We were supposed to do an episode for Wednesday, but I think I'm going to hold him back to maybe have him come in for the next, the next one, or maybe even if he can come in on Wednesday, and we can film something

for, um, for a big thing for, uh, for the Spider-Man stuff, because that's going to be the talk of it, especially if Toby and Andrew went up popping up into this thing. But that's it, man. That's it. Thank you guys so much. Once again, please, please head on over to, um, the Shmodelanlive.com. Get your tickets. And if you haven't, subscribe. to this channel, click that notification button on YouTube if you're not checking it out. And if you haven't already, subscribe to the podcast feed. Apple, Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere. Podcasts are found. Thank you guys so very much for joining me here today. Keep up on the channel. We've got a lot going on. Appreciate it. Appreciate everything that you do. See you next time.