The Kristian Harloff Show - Peacemaker Season 2 Premiere Non-Spoiler Review & Big Marvel/DC Updates! | Capes And Cowls

Episode Date: August 24, 2025

The Kristian Harloff Show presents Capes and Cowls! Winston A. Marshall and Coy Jandreau are back to dive into the world of comic book movies and TV. Today we're kicking things off with a PEACEMAKER Season 2 Ep.1 Review (Non-Spoiler), giving you our first impressions of James Gunn's hilarious and action-packed return to the DCU. We also break down the brand-new PEACEMAKER Season 2 opening credits set to "Oh Lord" by Foxy Shazam—and yes, it's just as wild as you'd expect!  Other topics include: Alan Cumming on AVENGERS: DOOMSDAY challenges and not knowing who he was acting with:  Why 2025 will be the first time since 2011 a superhero movie won't reach $700 million worldwide:  Casting news: Tramell Tillman joins SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY as a villain (but not Tombstone):  Don't miss this packed episode of Capes and Cowls as we cover all the biggest DC, Marvel, and comic book movie updates of the week! Hashtags: #Peacemaker #PeacemakerSeason2 #PeacemakerReview #PeacemakerOpeningCredits #JamesGunn #AvengersDoomsday #Marvel #DC #DCU #SuperheroMovies #SpiderManBrandNewDay #CapesAndCowls #TheKristianHarloffShow #MovieNews #ComicBookMovies #NonSpoilerReview #MarvelNews #dcnews  SPONSORS: MASTERCLASS: Right now, our listeners get an additional 15% off any annual membership at http://www.MASTERCLASS.com/BIGTHING TRADE COFFEE: Trade is offering 50% off a 1 month trial at http://www.drinktrade.com/kristian. NUTRAFOL: Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to http://www.Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code KRISTIAN

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It's me, Winston A. Marshall. I'm running the show today. Myself and Coy, we're going to do it because Christians off doing big boy things. So we're going to sit here and we're going to hang with you. We're going to talk about all the important stuff going on in life right now. Because, you know, the only important things are the fact that Peacemaker Season 2 is officially here. We got our first episode. We're going to do a non-spoiler review and discussion on that.

We've got some news about Peacemaker and kind of some of the musings that. James Gunn had as far as that goes. What else we're going to talk about? Apparently, as Fantastic Four is also getting ready to end the theatrical run, we will have no comic book movie to cross 700 mil this year. That's the first time since I think the number was 2017. We'll talk about it in the show. We got all of that.

Tremel Tillman, known from Severance, was also on the most recent mission. impossible. He's apparently going to be in Spider-Man. We talk some Daredevil, born again. We've got a lot of stuff to talk about, man. And then it's myself and Koi, so you know things could potentially get off the rails. It's going to be a good time. It's going to be a good time. That's it. And we have a very feasible goal today. We'll talk about that too after we start the show. So for now, sit back, relax, get some popcorn. And unless it's, you know, 11 a.m. for you two, then I don't know, get a protein bar or something. And we'll see you after the intro. Oh, I cut the intro off. I'm so sorry.

Welcome to capes and cows, everybody. I've got my boy, Coy, up in the building. He was confused. He wasn't ready for that. He thought he had more time. I was like, I got it like 10 seconds. Nope. They got your nose.

I know you'd like to do that when nobody's laying attention, but. What's going on, Koi? How you've been, man? You know, a lot, but navigating and balancing. I kept thinking August was going to be light, and here we are at the end of August, and it went by like that. And it's going to be September and a week. And I'm just going to white knuckle until the holidays.

That's pretty much how this works, man. It's the same thing. I, uh, what, the vid and now the, the, the play I'm in, the, the Shakespeare that I'm in opens tonight. So I'm out here running lines in between everything, between coffee and, and now my poor lady sick. Now she got it. So now they're trying to take care of her and just doing too much, man, like all over the place. I just need things to slow down for a little bit. That would be lovely.

I'm, uh, I'm taking a trip in September because I knew if I stayed, I would just say yes to everything. so I'm physically removing myself. Like I've learned I have no willpower. So I have to literally leave. Yeah. So I'm getting on a plane in September so I can't work the whole month. That makes complete and total sense, man. I makes complete and absolute total sense.

And I'm a little jealous. Like I'm applying for a couple different positions right now on like production staffs. And part of the problem with that is like I need to go back to Dallas to check on my dad again. it's different when all your stuff is remote. It's another thing when it's like, no, you need to be on set. So then all of a sudden it's like, like, you know what I mean?

Because you want to be honest in the job interview and be like, I'm going to need to check on my dad periodically. But also then be like, well, then we don't have space for you, motherfucker, because we got shit. Yeah. Yeah.

And my poppy's turning 80, my grandpa. So I'm going to go visit him. That's the trip I'm taking. But like, the more, the older I get, the more I'm like, I really just don't care about digital. I got IRL things. So like I'm just, I'm shifting my priorities to like I got to see my people more. Yeah. A thousand percent. I mean, my dad is coming to see the show tomorrow, which is. Oh, dope, dude. He's a huge Shakespeare nerd. So the minute he heard, he said, you know I'll be there. Oh, that's special, man. So that'll be,

that'll be cool. Um, so I'm looking forward to that. But yeah, same thing. I just need to, it needs to become more regular that I'm that I'm hopping down there to go see him. So, uh, you know, We will see. We will see what happens, man. You know, I see some people in the comments talking about. They sick of stuff too. They sick of homework. They sick of bills.

I get it, y'all. Like, can we just take a European state of mind and just everybody have a siesta once a day? Just shut everything down. This whole like perma grind hustle mentality of like ever expansion and always growth. Like, nah, I might like, thanks. Like I'm turning 37 in three weeks. And like, I'm, I,

ground for like 36 years 37's a different me i'm i'm settling in man yeah no i feel that man i feel that well speaking of settling in actually sounds like a great place to kind of start off here peacemaker season two is out ladies and gentlemen um i coy if i remember correctly you've seen the first like three or four right okay and so uh i myself i've only seen the season premiere which everybody else was treated to yesterday, which a lot to talk about. We're going to dive into it right now. So, Coy, just initial thoughts on the season premiere of the show. You know, I'm a big fan of comics feeling very different.

Like, I love when a writer has a different tone, and I love when an artist has a different tone. And to me, to go from Superman, right into Peacemaker, feels like that. Like, the Superman movie making the choice to feel like a graphic novel, R.D. in play, I really thought that was super. comicky and fun now peacemaker being a hard r follow up to a very pg 13 superman i really like the tone shift i think it really shows a versatility in the dc u i think um next year having super girl and clay face and lanterns is gonna you know kind of accelerate in a really natural way because those

are three very different tones as well so i think um peacemaker does a really good job just like bringing us deeper into the dc u i loved the last time on being so important and impactful I don't think I've ever seen a last time on that did more heavy lifting in my life. So I think it's really playful. It's fun. It's showing the power of Christopher Smith. I think John Cena, like, whatever he's done the last three years to grow as an actor, I remember being impressed in season one, but he's even better this season.

So I'm digging it, man. No, I'm liking it a lot, too. And one of the things that I think stood out to me, because I'll tell you, I was not 100% on board watching the episode last night. part of the reasoning for that, I know for a fact, all of that exhaustion I'm talking about by having too much on my plate, I got home from final dress rehearsal. It was like almost one in the morning.

I barely had any energy to do it. Like that's why my review isn't done yet because I was just like, okay, I finished. I'm going to sleep. I'm not, I can't do this right now. And like to that point, there were definitely some things that I was like,

oh, I wonder if they're going to change the intro. And they did. And I just love, do you want to taste it so much that I, that I start off be like, hmm, I don't know, I don't know. Now, I rewatch it again today, and I was like, okay, I'm actually on board. I do like the dance.

I like the incorporation. It's kind of fun, similar to an anime that, like, your opening kind of saw. That's what it feels like. It feels like an anime opening, like random stuff is happening, and you get to see the players that are going to be involved in this arc. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I was like, oh, okay. I was like, huh, his dad's outfit is in blue.

And, you know, so that'll be interesting to see with it. Again, this is a non-spoiler discussion, guys. You don't have to worry about any spoilers popping off. But you are very right. When you're talking about hard R, there is a moment that I thought was a hallucination that I was like, oh, that's actually happening. Sometimes you've got to blow off some steam, man. There was a lot of blowing off of steam.

That's for sure. And like, I love that that's our first thing after. the wholesomeness of Superman because that's reality right like in our world there is those levels and and i think comics reflect that now a comic universe can yeah no no no a thousand percent man i i'm dying so many in the comments goes keyword hard are i was like yo you nasty uh but but it's it's i i think what was really well done and sometimes it can be kind of tricky because when you're starting a new season and especially a new season of a show that was such a hit. So we're expecting things to be exactly the same kind of feeling and the same energy out the gate. But you do have to do a reset

up. There is this idea that like for me, I was like, okay, this is kind of a slow start. Like, yes, there's definitely action that happens. Like there's a number of fights that happen. Obviously, the hard our part we're talking about happens. There's a lot of things that go down. But part of it. And again, I think that that's just my brain was fried. I was just like, this seems a little bit slow. But in retrospect, a lot happened in that first episode. And I feel like we're just going to get more pedal to the metal as this goes. I mean, even how the episode ends. Yeah. Immediately feels like, oh, this just got real. This just got really real, really fast. But what, what element are you most looking forward to? Which character's story? Because

They kind of set everybody up for what they're going to be doing. Who are you most intrigued by going into the second season? To be honest, I really love that we get some semblance of, like, the foreboding Frank Grillo to come. Like, you know, we haven't seen a lot, but I really love that we are tying in the suicide squad in order to set things up. And I, you know, I feel like that's a really fun way to universe grow. Frank Grillo's been in every DCU property. Like he was in Creature Commandos, Superman, and we know he's going to be in this to an extent.

I'm really curious what it's like to have a character that intrinsic. And we haven't really had that with phase ones before. Like phase one of the MCU was very much a villain a week kind of feeling per movie. Like Loki grew out of Thor into Avengers, but there wasn't something consistent across mediums. So like animation, live action, TV, film, like that intrigues. me and how that plays. I think that's my most anticipated element to the show. No, I respect that. I think for me, it's probably, I think I'm most intrigued by what's

ultimately going to happen with Harcourt. I think that she is really going through some stuff. And I thought that her reaction to her situation was the most interesting out of everybody, including, you know, a her kind of hard-ar moment that ends up happening in the episode, I thought was absolutely fascinating. And it keeps ramping up. I mean, first, you know, she speaks to somebody and then goes a little nuclear by herself. And then when she goes to try and relax, goes nuclear again. And so I'm actually very curious to see where they're going to go with this,

how that's going to continue to evolve and, and ultimately what that, that, um, kind of plays out to be man, but, um, last question. I mean, what are you thinking about the new intro? Uh,

so I want to speak to your hardcore thing first. I think she's, she'd be number two for me. Like, and Peasmaker probably number three because it's his show. But like, yeah, I agree hardcore, um, the physicality of the character is so awesome.

And like, she's such a good actress that I'm really excited to see her getting to like, have that depth at the start and where, that's going to go. Like, I think that that's such a great secondary character, and I'm really curious how that plays out. And she's so yoked this season.

There's something about, like, John Cena's size that immediately makes you consider him a certain way. And now it feels like Jennifer Holland has, like, found a build that makes you assume things of her. Like, she's got this physicality that I'm really curious of those two things in parallel. Like, I know it's something a lot of people don't think about, but the physicality of someone informs a lot.

of how you assume they are. Like, that's one of the reasons Alan Richardson as Batman isn't as high for me as it is for other people. It's a physical element. And now Jennifer Holland is yoked. And I'm really curious, like, what that informs in her rage and her choices and her emotionality. And so to be, you know, these two large human beings

having all this emotional turmoil, that intrigues me this season. And then the opening, man, I like what you have to say about anime. Like, this is a really different opening while still being obviously thematic. similar. Obviously, it's still a really, you know, banger of a of a butt rock song. And it's got like just a melancholic joy. Like there's a different energy to it overall.

I'm a big Foxy Shazam guy. It's a recent thing. Like I'm not going to claim to know them before they were cool or whatever. Like I'm not that kind of hipster. But I like Foxy Shazam and have for a few years. I have more recently gotten more invested because of, you know, these properties. And, um, you know, The lead singer popped up at a Macklemore song, like four or five years ago, and that turned me on to them. He was in the one with the moped song, that guy that has the crazy high voice is the lead singer of Foxy Shazam. This is the moment.

Yeah, the guy that is like the third act energy in that song is the Foxxie Zazam lead singer. Oh, I didn't know that. Well, and I've seen them live before, and they're so good live. Like, this is one of those bands that's insane live. So to hear that kind of energy and the theme song gets. me excited to have that week to week. So, yeah, I'm jamming. No, I mean, let's actually go into our next topic, which is talking specifically about the new opening credits set to, Oh Lord by Foxxazam, as you mentioned. Josh Wilding reporting

from comic book movie, Peacemaker Season 2 premiered on HBO Max last night and filmmaker James Gunn has just released the show's new opening credits. Set to, oh, Lord, by Foxxer's Zam. It's every bit as unique and fun, excuse me, as what we got when the show first launched in 2022. As we write, this, Peacemaker Season 2 has a 98 on Rotten Tomatoes, though critics were only given five of the eight episodes. Fans have now started sharing the thoughts on the premiere awarding an 82 of the popcorn meter. New episodes, The Peacemaker will be released weekly, so it'll be a while until we get the full scores for the series. Now, the premiere tied, the premier titled The Ties the Grind, fully wiped away the DCEU by swapping out the Justice League for the Justice gang.

It also revealed how the new DCU Multiverse works. I knew the dance had to change because we killed everybody in season one, Good and told the rap. I guess, spoiler alert for season one, it has been since 2022. But I wasn't sure whether I was going to change the song or keep the song the same and do a different dance. And after just listening to a lot of things and just going, walking through my imagination, I eventually hit upon, Oh Lord, which I thought was great. They have a great music video, which has dancing in it.

I thought that was a good inspiration for season two. Boxo Jazeem are literally my favorite band. I think that the lyrics are very much about what happened to season two. I think that in the same way, do you want to taste it, really capture the flavor, both the light and the dark side of season one. The same is true of, oh, Lord. All right, we're not going to watch it right now. If you, you know, obviously go watch the season premiere,

or you can come and look at James Gunn's tweet later just because, you know, copyright. But just hearing all that, I mean, we kind of touched on a lot of this already. And I agree. I think very similar, again, going back to anime intros, because like, if you go to, like, if you go to classic TV shows or Saturday morning cartoons or like Power Rangers, they would show some clips of the season sometimes, but for the most part, it's the same intro. It's, it's, you know, you know, Zach smiling at the camera doing hip hop keto and then showing him as the Black Ranger, showing Kimberly doing gymnastics and then she's the Pink Parade. It's the same intro the whole time, right? Yeah. You do The Office.

The Office might change a couple of clips, typically from episodes we've already seen. Nothing surprising to let you know, but the theme song doesn't change. It's the same thing all the way through. Anime has that very specific thing where you're typically not seeing scenes from the show, but you are getting kind of OMA, OVA cutaways of, you know, Naruto Fight and the New bad guy and like him using his powers but it and then saskay's hanging in the background but we don't know what he going to do and like like that it kind of feels the same both in the previous season and now that we get to see the repeat in this one got a new song again to set the tone of the arc you or in this

case season you get to see every character that's going to be involved so it almost is a light spoiler for the season but nothing to write home about you don't know what they're doing um and And I just think it gives a very unique, again, Saturday morning cartoon tone, but our hard R version of said Saturday morning cartoon, which I think is pretty cool. So anything else you would add to this at all, Coy? You know, it's great to see Frank Grillo dance. I'd add, I'd add seeing dude, like, slide at the end and just have that moment. I just like, I got a lot of love for the Grillo's, you know, like the whole.

whole family of a man. I know Remy and Rio a little bit. And Frank, uh, Frank's always such a tough guy. And he's like, such like that. Like, he's just such a fighter. And he's, he literally has like a Netflix documentary about fighting. Like, he's such that guy. So did see him in something that makes him dance in an intro like this. Just like, you know, him playing ball makes me happy. Like he's, he might be an 80% fighter, but that 20% theater kid makes me happy. That's that, that to me is the funny part because I've said this before. I'm obviously a theater kid by the nature of like a grew up in the theater, but like I, when people say theater kid, I have a very specific, like, image and I would hate that shit.

Oh, I can't hang, dude. I struggle. I love, I love my theater kids. And I feel like on like a one-to-one basis, I love it. But the minute they all start saying, it, 5,000, 25,000, I'm like, nope, I'm out, I'm out. All of a sudden, I'm turning UGK of full throttle, just like, let me see it, let me see it. Like, just, just. I definitely have a whole.

hard line in the sand there's a reason i left certain jobs but like you broke i think the internet was trying to save you you said you have a hard r against against that what you were saying hard out hard out okay all right all right well all that being said man we want to know what y'all think what did you think about the season two premiere of peacemaker let us know in the comments in the chats man throw in those super chats which by the way coy let me bring you in real quick so christian did in part before he took off for the day he did say that our competition you want to guess who we're up against did roxie and stuff do the show together did i see that right it was like a world girl reunion okay and how much do you think they hit was that right you're right it is roxy's

chef where you what do you think you're at a world girl reunion i'd say one 802 blinkin 82 that that is that is a very like nice guess for them they we actually can Take them on, man. They only got to 107. Oh, we got guys. We can do that. 108. Send them in.

That's so sending those super chats, man. Let us know what you're thinking about the season two premiere of Peacemaker. All the stories are going to touch on today. We're going to get into one more story before we go to our first break of the show. Yeah, let's go ahead and do this one real quick. I just got to scroll up and make that thing. And then we go over here. Alan Cunning, Alan Cumming, best known for Pl,

playing Nightcrawler and X2 said, I don't know who I was acting with half the time in Doomsday. I heard that at first that I was like, is my boy got Alzheimer's? What's happening? But we'll talk about it. So Josh Wilding reporting, like Avengers Infinity War and Avengers Endgame before it,

Avengers Doomsday is a highly secretive production. With so many actors needed on set, the Russo brothers are likely facing some unique challenges, though that's nothing new to them. With the Vendors Infinity War, for example, Benedict Cumberbatch's busy schedule meant he wasn't on with his co-stars a lot of the time. A double shot most of, many of his scenes,

with Cumberbatchers' Dr. Strange later inserted into those. Several other actors in the same sequences never even met, and moviegoers were none the wiser. Something similar is happening with Doomsday, and X2 X-Men United Star Alan Cumming revealed some of the unique challenges he faced on set while reprising his role as Nightcrawler. I did the entire production in isolation. Lots of green screen, face replacement, he told Gold Derby.

They even gave him. characters fake names. I don't know who I was acting with half the time. Coming added, I did break the internet by mentioning something once, but honestly I might have got it wrong. As a reference to him previously saying, he had been shooting a fight scene with Mr. Fantastic actor Pedro Pascal. However, as previously acknowledged that he got in trouble for revealing that, we bet on Reed Richards and Kurt Wagner still crossing paths. Coming will be the aged as night crawler, while the face replacement he refers to is likely for actors who weren't available. Now, some of social media, users have been critical of this approach to filmmaking, but as noted, it's nothing the Russo

brothers haven't done before. Another recent interview coming called his Avengers Doomsday Experience Amazing and said it was healing and really nice to go back to something that it was a terrible experience when I did it the first time. A great film. A great film. I love the film. It was actually really great to go back. He continued and especially, I'm 60 years old. I did not think I'd be doing stunts playing a superhero in my 60s. So that was great. And everyone was really nice. And I got it done really quickly because I couldn't go because of the traitors when most of my scenes were being shot. As we know, Doomsday stars everyone from Hemsworth, Mackie, Duke, Hittleston, Stan, Wright, Rudd, and Downey Jr., Russell, Liu, Huerta, Mejara, Pew, Ramirez, Harbor, John

Kamen, and Pullman are all joining the Avengers franchise as well as the Fantastic Four with Pascal Kirby, Moss Baccarat and Quinn, and X-Men franchise stars, Grammar, Stuart, McKellen coming, Romaine, Marsden, and Deadpool-Mover-Aid and Star Tatum. Set to drop in 2026, December 18, 2026 with Secret Wars coming December 17, 2027. So, Coy, you hear all that with Alan Cumming and the idea that he was, you know, doing the kind of replacement thing, which is something that's pretty standard in my. movies. Obviously, I think with this, you are dealing with so many people. I am 99% positive. Even the Avengers assemble on your left thing that we're all clamor over an end game. There's a reason,

not just to make it easier on your eyes to see every individual player. Part of the reason that was probably shot that way is like, all right, bro, we can only make Tom and Wong and Cumberbatch together in a scene. So, because of timing. And we can only get the Wakanda folks at the same time because of timing. So let's just, we'll shoot it in chunks. Okay, today's Wakanda day. Everybody Wakanda picture like you were doing the club photos.

You know what I'm saying? Like you got to chess club. Come on in. Okay, band. Come on in. Okay, football team. Come on in. What do you think hearing about this?

Does it worry you? Does it sound like business as usual? What's your thoughts? I got three thoughts. First of which is I do think it's fairly common. And I think this first thought is that we know too much about making movies because like we obviously have that in other movies, but we weren't talking about it in Infinity War and in game nearly as much. So I think there are elements of looking for things to be bothered by. Second thing is I think that this is probably mostly true.

But I do think there's an element of, hey, we need you to have a new sound bite because you did spoil something. So now we need something that you and other people are going to say for the. the next year because people are actively asking people about endgame every opportunity they get. I mean, not endgame, um, Doomsday and Secret Wars. Like Hemsworth just did limitless press and people weren't asking about limitless because the sound bites are going to be better off Secret Wars. So I do think that they need to keep some things close to the vest for the next year. So I think it's smart to say like, oh, I didn't act with anybody.

So I think it is somewhat true, but also there's that element. And three, I don't think that anyone should be in a position of, like you don't know what the story is going to be it does sound like this was just you know put together in pieces why would you want to say who you're acting with because that automatically gives people context so i think it's a mini-tiered thing um it might be true it might not be true and that's that's the point no i think so i think keeping it close to the best is smart look i feel like they're going to do anything if they really wanted to say who he was acting with you could just be oh man it was cool to see Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen again. I miss them, man. They're my boys.

Like, and leave it at that. Because then it's just like, okay, well, yeah, it would make sense you'd be with the other X-Men at some point. If you were going to try and keep a secret, don't talk about who you cross-pass with otherwise, unless it was somebody you were already kind of related to if that kind of makes sense. But no, I think we as a society, no more about making movies as is. I mean, look, who was? wasn't watching this show at least or watching anything Christian as far as that goes, meaning they were movie buffs or they felt like they were close to it anyway. It didn't watch every DVD behind the scenes making of as is.

A lot of this stuff is stuff that people that are a part of this audience would know about from that, let alone you and I who have actually spent our careers making, you know, movies and TV and content and things like that. So there's a lot of stuff there. So I don't necessarily think anything he said is too out of pocket per se. No, I do think there's an element of like, I'm really enjoying the behind the scenes stuff on Superman now that Superman's out. But like when we watched audio commentaries,

it was on a completed movie. Right. That makes sense. So I do think there's a different element of, I think we exposed too much in pre-production. And I think that what I'm loving about Spider-Man is how much they're putting out that's misinformation. Like I love that they're like, yeah, this is happening. This is happening.

And like a lot of it might not be true. I want more movies to lie to me. I mean, that would be nice. The less I knew, the better. I would definitely say that much. And I'll be honest with you, I've said this before. I'm cool with interviews and stuff like this. Obviously, the actors have to be careful,

the Hollands and the comings of the world that they don't, oh, I wasn't supposed to say that. Or Ruffalo, too. I know he's another bad one. But I have actively said that I am not the biggest fan of all the scooper stuff, just kind of constantly feeding things. I don't mind necessarily people telling me that somebody is like in a movie, but it feels like at times it's a rush to see who can ruin a movie first. Yeah.

And it's a lack of like movies are storytelling and not only is it something that is part of the journey of making it, but creativity changes. So knowing too much too early causes problems because those things might change. and also if you know too much out of context you write your own story like if you hear two people are in a movie you think of those interactions and then if those interactions don't happen and they're in the movie you're disappointed because you knew too much going in and you like it's natural to write your own version of what you want so the more that gets revealed and especially when it's done egregiously then it is undermining the movie industry so i i don't love it can you imagine that like in in like the like the the height of when the Harry Potter books were dropping. If they were like, you had, you had, yo, this is from, this is from extracto patrona these nuts. They say that apparently Voldemort will return in the Goblet of Fire, bro. Right.

He will be back. We were expected to see him make an appearance, and he's probably going to murder Cedric Diggery. Spoiler alert, guys, the books have been out since, like, 2002. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, it's one of those things where, like, that, you don't know, I even think of music. You sometimes get track or album leaks,

which is obviously horrible and, you know, everybody goes down. But nobody's out here to be like, and now, you know, we got an exclusive bar from, from, you know, from, who hot right now? My brain, my brain is shot. I mean, Eminem's had song leaks and he's just canceled albums.

Like, like, you know what I mean? If something comes out, he's like, no, it's not coming out now. It just announced a new album. If all of a sudden bars from some of her songs dropped, I would assume that people would, would genuinely be pissed because again, part of the experience is being able to have the full process and explore in real time. Same thing with books.

Like you would occasionally get a specific, like if an author held a book signing, they might read a snippet from the book. But they're choosing that. And they're the ones that wrote the books. So they know exactly versus this idea of just giving away the secrets. It's one of those things that's just kind of crazy to me because I, I have. remember the random surprises that you would get when movies you would go to the midnight releases something go oh my god so is so it is bruh like that that was that was the thing

you looked forward to and it feels like it's a game to see who can ruin that first and i love going back and watching old movies and like movies in the 80s and seeing actors pop up i didn't know we're in it now that doesn't happen in either direction because we know everyone that's in it by the time it's out we know every character that's in it and it does feel malicious like it does feel like it It's like who can scoop it first. And then that's a bummer. That's not like celebrating art. Absolutely.

And like I understand that art in and of itself, especially the different mediums, release in different ways, hit people in different ways. But there is something about art because art is always supposed to be, what is the emotional draw to it? Letting your emotions fully be enveloped when it's time. or how the artist wants it to be presented.

Revealed and exposed. And I think as it is having different people cut your trailers is dangerous. And that's like an official thing. So like there's so many issues. And hopefully it gets better. But I definitely think we're in peak, spoil everything as much. And like some people that that have that audacity to tell like, well, I don't mind spoilers.

So I don't have a problem with it. Like congrats to you. I don't care about your experience. That's the whole thing. That saying that to me feels like someone being like, well, I like, well, I think they're great. I'm like, cool.

I can't stand it. And I would appreciate if we didn't automatically burn every steak. How about if you want to let me have much radium rare, and then if you want to put some to the side for the well done people, great. It's a peeing section in a pool. I don't want to be in your piss. I don't care if you like peeing in it. But it's all good.

I mean, look, we're not going to sit here and pretend like we didn't just report on stuff kind of going and we do every week as this show does to talk about the stuff that's out there. but again, it's because it is directly out there. I guess that's the thing. You know what I'm saying? What's the quote from the actor? That's a different thing. That's what I'm saying.

Quote from the end of it's a different thing. I also just think from the standpoint of if it wasn't out there, we'd find something else to talk about. But it's the hot thing to talk about. So it is what it is, man. So we want to know what you think, man. Get in the comments. Let us know, what do you think about Alan Cummings quote about not knowing who

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2017, 2011, but a superhero movie has not reached 700 million worldwide at the box office. Josh Wilding reported this from comic book movie as well. It's becoming increasingly difficult to deny the existence of superhero fatigue, especially when looking at how 2025's Marvel and DC movies have performed at the worldwide box office. Superman is the year's clear winner, with an expected 625 million haul by the time its run ends. Fantastic four first steps will come in second with the predicted $5.25 million total, and then it's all downhill from there. Captain America, Brave New World tapped out at 415 earlier in the year.

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And 2026 will be a bigger test as Spider-Man Brand New Day and Avengers Doomsday should be guaranteed to surpass a billion. If they don't, then it might be time to panic. Did you skip any of this year's superhero movies? That was a question for their website. However, I do want to ask you guys that as well. Is there of the four? So we had Superman, Fantastic Four First Steps, Captain America, Brave New World, and Thunderbolts.

Not including if you saw them at home, did you skip any of them in the theaters in which one let us know, especially set them via the superchets. We'd love to know what you're thinking of that. Boy, you hear this. We're getting no 700 mil. First time since 2011, which, what dropped in 2011? Let's see. 2011 superhero movie. That was like early.

That's year three of the MCU, man. Right. That's pre, that's pre and pre first Avengers. Yeah, that's pre. Yeah, there's pre Avengers. Yeah. So let's see. 2011, we had the Green Hornet, Thor, X-Men, First Class, Green Lantern,

Captain America, the First Avenger, Ra 1. All superheroes must die, Immortals and Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance. Okay. Okay. Let me just... But I would also be curious, and this stands by my thesis, what is 2025's box office overall compared to 2012, 13, 14? Like, I think we need to zoom out. That's also true, but let me, let me, why don't we do this? I'll give you the top 10 here because let's see.

well first of I'm trying to see which one hits 700 because I have the box office open for 2011 and the highest superhero movie that I see is Thor oh they're saying that was the last time so Thor was the highest one 449 so 2012 you hit Avengers

you get a billion there I see what they're saying okay and since then it's been yeah so but to that point 2011 the top 10 movies you had Harry Potter Death the Hong Kong was part two hit one point three four bill transformers dark of the moon one point one two bill uh pirates of the caribbean on stranger tides one point oh four uh point oh four uh four bill uh then a pretty decent drop off but still high up

twilight breaking down part one at seven 12 mission impossible ghost protocol at six ninety four kung fu panda two at six sixty five at six twenty six hangover to five eighty six six six six six six hangover to five eight six MRFs 563 and cars to 559. Those are the top 10 versus for this year, you have only two crossing over a billion. You got Zen Niza at 1.899 bill, Lilo at 1.03 Bill, Minecraft at 955, Jurassic World Rebirth at 829,

How to Train Your Dragon 626, Superman 598, Mission Impossible, Final Reckoning, 597, F1, 595, Fantastic 4, 472, and Brave New World at 415. So that's a pretty sizable drop-off for movies as a whole. You know what I'm saying? And I think that that is a major thing to keep in mind. I'm not saying that I disagree with the idea of we need to have movies that do not cost nearly as much money. I think they're putting too much money into making these movies, and that is not helping.

but I do think that ultimately we just have to remember that people just aren't hitting the movies up the way that they used to, especially, you know, 2011 feels like the last bastion before movies were just gangbusters making money like crazy. Yeah. If you look at Avengers, that shifted a lot of things in movies in general, but like there were so many franchises hidden between now and then. And now it's like, we get the occasional Lilo and Stitch, the occasional Minecraft. Obviously, Oppenheimer and Barbie, like, that was its own thing. But like, I just looked at the different box offices like since 2020 and it's a really different thing. Uh, 2020. We are at 33.9 billion.

2022, 26 billion. 2021, a mere 21 billion. But if you look at 2019, it's 42 billion. Right. So like the, and then 2018 overall box office, uh, 30 billion. Like they're, there, it's just. just the scale is different and inflation and like there's just so many things to account i'm not disagreeing that people are going to superhero movies less i'm not saying that i'm saying they're also

going to the movies less so um i do think it's an overall movie theater conversation as much as it is a comic book movie conversation i do think that comic book movies are in a new era i've said it before like the golden age to silver age of comics changed comics i think we're entering a different age of comic book movies and it's a more specific audience i think it's great the movies are getting more specific again like feel like they have something to say i feel like they're a better quality i think fantastic for thunderbolts and superman were all much better than movies years past but they need to recalibrate expectation and budget accordingly if that's going to be a new era um so i think we're going to see there's there's always going to be outliers but to me the big red herring what the

canary in the coal mine was Jurassic world like that was the first Jurassic world to not make a billion and it's a fifth lower and I heard a number of people talk about how 800 million is a new one billion that is a 200 million dollar difference that is most movies a higher drop what what was the I was going to say what was the budget for rebirth because that in and of itself would would be something to be like oh shit also 2011 or to let's say 2010 to 2020 China loved our movies and they don't now and and we need to look at international as a very different thing. Like it's not the same.

And the legs on movies because we're letting them go to streaming in 60 days or less. There's so many factors. I just think it should, it's a perfect storm problem. But I feel like people are looking for one thing. Yeah. No, I agree. And I think that that is real quick. I want to see what's a minion because rebirth is reported at at about 180.

for the budget. I want to see what the Minion's budget was. So the estimated budget for that was damn near half of Billy, somewhere around 465, which is nuts. That is absolutely nuts that they spent that much money making that shitty movie. I like Jurassic World better than any other Jurassic World. I like Rebirth more than any other Jurassic World. I'm talking about the Minion.

I'm not even going to... Oh, yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. How quickly we change our tune, they're coy. That's just crazy. But you're right. It's still crossed a billion. But I think you're,

I think you hit the nail on the head. I think you have to look at so many things. You have to look at the economy. You have to look at, like you said, American movies aren't hitting in China the way that they used to. China has taken a lot of that energy and put it into their own film industry and how that's going. You have the fact that these studios decided to go gung-ho on streamers.

And streamers, like, try and say that they don't. They take a massive cut out of things. And then the last thing, I'm not putting this at the feet of Gen Z at all, but I think in the same way that, like, we have taken a step back and, like, Gen Z doesn't drink nearly as much. They don't go to bars. And partly that was the pandemic and the age at which the elder of Gen Z would have done that and been in college and maybe doing that after graduating. And they didn't. It just wasn't something that picked up. And then it just became a thing.

They just drink significantly less. A lot of studies have come out that, like, if they're going to drink, they're getting one really nice-ass drink, but they're not going to be like us where we were like, hey, get the party, right, we play a beer pong all night, dog. Like, that doesn't happen. And so it's the same thing we've seen for a lot of Gen Z. They are more interested in shorter content or the specific types of movies that draw them in is different. there's just a lot of different things that have just evolved and it's time for the studios to understand that they got to understand that things have changed and find another way to either bring older folks back to the theaters uh that you know millennials and higher bringing younger

folks back in or find a way to connect with gen z in a way that they can't miss these these types of events you know yeah i i think there's a lack of socialization that you know happened to all of us every generation during the pandemic. And I can't imagine being a 13 year old and having from 13 to 16 not being out much. And then I also can't imagine being like a 19 year old to 22 year olds, not drinking. Like I started drinking young, young. But like I can't imagine that era, that not being part of a habit. And that would change the rest of my adult life. Um, you know, 20, 20, was five years ago now. If I didn't drink for the last, for three formative years, why would I started after necessarily.

And the same with movies. If I didn't start going to the movies when I had a car, if I didn't start going to the movies when I had, you know, some income, I don't know that I would start it. So I think there is huge gaps in expectation. No, absolutely. Like I said, I'm not putting this at the feet of Gen Z at all. Like, it's, this is the studios to figure out how to make more quad four movies or make enough movies for everybody that they all want to go and see their own thing in the theater.

That is, that is up to them. and they kind of did this to themselves. Again, I think with how they've pushed streamers as hard as they have. But that's, that bless you. But that's one of the things in general, every generation when they become the centerpiece of society, they just handle things differently from, you know, entertainment to socialization, to how they handle their money, things like that. And it's both how the world is affected around them and how they're affecting the world.

So I think that's just the big deal. I think that we have not seen movies be in the same centerpiece the way they were for us and generations past. Because if you even think about it, we, sorry, last thing, we started becoming the generation where TV stars were a thing. Because remember how the movie stars used to look down on TV. Oh, you had to go to a TV show, which you go get, oh, but we were the age where all of a sudden doing both was hot. You know what I'm saying? Being, you know, Walter White and then going off and doing a blockbuster like Godzilla or whatever. I think I got still.

Super great. But you know what I'm saying? Like it was, that was normal to do some stuff like that. I think a huge thing we're also not addressing is in addition to things going to streaming. It's $5 a movie if you watch four movies and you've got a $20 a month streaming service. Money right now is. The economy? A thousand percent.

We've never like, it's so hard because there have been like 2008 financial crises and that didn't affect the teenagers that it affected their parents. The fallout of the dollar is affecting more generations in a different way. And it's also not being addressed the same way. Like the fact that we're not in a recession and everyone is hurting so bad. Like I don't think we're accounting in any of these stats and equations the financial element. Like it's not just that movies cost $12 to $20 to spending on where you live. It's the fact that a burger costs $12 to $20 depending on where you live. And you've got to use it.

Like it's crazy to me. Bro, the fact that my fat ass literally might start losing weight. Like I actually just came for the doctor this morning. The doctor was like, hey, man, you down 12 pounds. I said out. What? Great. I love it.

literally thought to myself probably because the last time I went to go get the last time I went to go get fast food I literally was like let me just get like a burger fry and a drink and they're like cool 15 I said 50 bitch this is the value menu what what that was like an 18 dollar I remember Taco Bell being like I've got a five on me and it means something decoy 18 dollars a Taco Bell meant you fed your family for two weeks 100% like you spend $810 about like you don't feel great like you've done something wrong. So like,

I don't think that is a... $1.00. You don't know what I'm saying? Yeah. And now it's like dinner. But I... So like I don't think we're taking that into account. So in addition to streamers being like $15 for a whole month of infinite content,

people not want to leave their house. You leave your house that cost $50 now. Just leaving the door. So like that's a thing. And I feel like that's a, you know, we don't... It's hard because I love these pieces of art. And I love supporting them. But I use AMCA list almost exclusively because I can't afford to go to the Lemley as much as I want or to Alamo

drafts as much as I want. So if you don't have that, everything is $25. It's crazy, man. That's the thing that's wild to me. Where we used to work at I pick, it was wild that movies cost $30 to get in. Now going to regular-ass movie theaters like you damn near spending $30 just to get in. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, climax is going to set you back $28.

bucks regular as movies are going to set you back at least 20 so like and people are trained to not leave the house yeah that that's the other thing when when you have everything at home when when you've got that great sound system when when you have that big ass tv and when the movies are out within a month's time month and a half's time why go you know what i mean and especially if you go and then you're going to deal with people because the other thing that kills me is the social norm of watching movies. Gone. It's gone.

And that to me becomes a pretty big turnoff as well. So I'm not saying that superhero movies don't need to wake up. I'm not either, but I am saying it's more than that. And like,

if we can do these sing-alongs for K-pop Demon Hunters, but sounds like actual hell to me, then we should be able to do actual restrained theaters. Like maybe we have a smoking section and we have a talking section in a, like, theater five,

be a dumb ass. Theater one, we're going to actually watch the movie. Like, we play the movie in two houses. One is like, be an asshole. One is like I'm watching the movie. And I think we need to start like fixing the theater socialization industry. Yeah. Have an usher standing at the bottom of every other theater and those are the silent theaters.

That's fair. And I mean, I'll be honest with you. I do think it's probably something that's going to differentiate per IP. and per where you live. Yeah, 100%. I'm sure there are smaller theaters that you could go to your little indie one or the, like, you know how Burbank has like three different AMCs. I like going,

like I like going to 16, like the big one. But sometimes I like going to the smaller one off in the pocket because they're so I can literally just go and just be quiet and just be like, oh, thank God, They don't need to keep an eye on that and understand kind of what they've done. Like they need to continue to make superhero.

We might need to get less of them yearly and make them bigger events again. And that might be. And take your time making them quality. I love that the DCU films seem to be wrapping a year before they're out. So you actually can make visual effects look good. And like, there's just, I, there's so many things to be said, but I think we just need to zoom out a little too. Yeah. No, I get it.

I get it, man. But what do y'all think? Let us know. in the comments, throw on them super chats, tell us your experiences in the movie theaters, and do you think that the superhero genre is in trouble? First time since 2011 that we have seen no superhero movie cross 700 million, which is kind of a wild statement to say that it was that long of a stretch. It really became the norm.

Let us know what you think in the comments. Okay, we got time for a couple more stories real quick. Let's see. What do we want to get into? Let's do this one. I do like this one. Tremel Tillman will reportedly play a villain in the Spider-Man Brand New Day, but it won't be Tombstone.

This is Mark Cassidy reporting. That's how we got word on a late addition to the cast of the Spider-Man Brand-New Day with Severance and Mission Impossible Final Reckoning actor, Tremel Tillman, set to join the ensemble in an undisclosed role. No details on Tillman's character were shared by the trades, but there's been a lot of speculation. The most popular theories pointing to Peter Parker's Daily Bugle colleague, Robbie Robertson, and the villainous Tombstone.

Tombstone did seem like a pretty solid guess since we heard that Alonzo Thompson, Lonnie Lincoln will show up in brand new day along with several other spidey foes. However, we're now hearing that Tillman will not be playing the Hulking Albaido gangster after all. According to Nexus Point News, Tillman has not been cast as Tombstone,

though he will play a villain. Rumor has it that this fourth solo outing for Tom Holland's wall crawling, Ocrawler opens with the montage. The hero doing battle with various bad guys, but it seems unlikely that Tillman would have such a minor role, unless the plans for him to return down the line, of course. The news of Tillman's casting followed a rumor that Florence Pugh will also appear as Yelena Alova.

What is brain just fried for a second? But this has yet to be confirmed. Brand new day will also start Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk, John Bernthal as Frank Castle the Punisher, Sadie Sink, and Liza Colan Zayas, and Undisclosed, roles Zendaya and Jacob Batlon will also reprise their roles as MJ and Ned. Last thing we already know, unlike previous films, so I'm coming far from home and new, no way home, brand new day is the name of a specific arc from the comics, which focuses on Peter Parker attempting to rebuild his life following the events of the status

quo altering one more day and civil war. All right, Coy, so best guess is here. Who do you think that Tillman might be portraying? You are the Spidey expert out of all the Spidey. experts I know. Norman Osborne. Ooh. I mean, we already saw Norman with them waves again, bro.

Coleman Domingo did a real good job. I would love if Coleman got to play him in live action personally, but if he's not going to, I think Tremel Tillman is so good at being charming in a scary way. He's so good at being intimidating, but also like captivating. Yeah. I hadn't thought of Robbie, to be honest. I love Robbie Roberts. And I'm so excited for Lamorn Morris to play him.

Lamarne's playing him in that Nick Cage show. Spider-Man noir. Absolutely. I think, I know people got been out of shape about him being black in the, in the, God, what was the name of that show? Your friend of the neighborhood? Thank you. But you're not going to sit here and tell me that these, where is it?

Oh, God damn it. That these waves right here. That's on a white man. That is a black man's waves. All right. That's what that is right there. Norman bin black, all right? Same thing. Look, look right here.

You're going to tell me a white man got waves like that. Ain't none of y'all brushing your own hair like that, bro. I promise you. I promise you, bro. And Willem Defoe did an amazing job. And my only question would be Tom Holland has met Norman, right? But maybe he thinks that the benevolence of Tremel Tillman is like, oh, and this university is not a bad guy, right?

Like you want to, you'd want to play him so different from what Willem Defoe did so you could buy him as Harry's dad, a friend, a fellow scientist. And then the betrayal hits deeper because he didn't really get to know Norman as a man that much. He was a guy at feast. He was trying to, like, I think he'd be great. I think that there's a, there's a chance. He's, uh, Robbie. I think that's fun. Uh, I want Tombstone to be like a little younger, I think.

Um, but like I'm excited no matter what because Tremel Tillman, steals every scene he's in a mission impossible as well as severance yeah no i mean that's the thing beyond anything else it is just how igniomatic how how powerful of an actor that he is like he he he really showed us in severance and so i'm i i i'm open to him really playing any of those i want someone cerebral though so it i got one more for you who do you remember they cast um uh uh uh zay s uh from the bear and and we're like who's that going to be what if he's jefferson davis ooh what if he's miles mous's mama and daddy i like that too i like that too i'm not mine a tramel tielman rink donald back and so you got you got you got the the three

parental figures you got uncle donald you got chelelman as jefferson and you got zayas as Mama Morales? I like that. I like that a lot. Though I did, I do see one person in the comment, Tillman seems like he should be somewhat of a scientist himself. That's a good one. That would be a good one, man. But I buy him as a cop. I could buy him as a cop a thousand percent and I can definitely see this being a world where like Miles, we're setting up Miles coming into the picture. Eventually, He already teased him a little bit in that Aaron straighter said, you know, I got a nephew that runs around in this neighborhood. Right.

So you already have kind of teased the fact that Miles exists somewhere. You just haven't been formally introduced. And I'm not saying Miles will be in this movie. I'm saying his parents would. I could, but I could also see a scenario where maybe they were in the movie. And then the post credit is being like, hey, man, Spider-Man, thank you so much for doing that, man. This is our son.

You know, we hope that like he can grow up to be like you. one day. We're like, hi. And then that's it. This comes down three months before Doomsday and a year before Secret Wars. I think post-Secret Wars we might get Miles in a Sony movie, his parents in a Marvel Sony movie. That'd be pretty cool. I would like it. But let us know what you think, man. Who do you think that Mr. Tillman might end up playing? Who would you like to see him play? Let us know in the comments. Let us know in the chat. Throw on a super chat, if you really want to get it out there and let make sure the whole world knows what you're talking about, man. I think that that would be really, really dope to see him as Norman Osborne, but we'll see what happens.

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draft pick for the W this year, man. Paige Cook, bro. She was put put up 44. I, and the spark still pull it out. So if we can pull it out at the end, it's still possible. I believe in a squad. Also, we just need like 80 something, one dollar ones. That's also true. You could all just, everybody put in a dollar. We go chip in a dollar and we go get some, that that one work perfectly. But let's start up with this first one right here. Tyler, uh, Pfeiffer, Pfeiffer. Anyway, going to see 311 in Nashville next week, ever listen to them, probably my all-time favorite band. I have not heard of 311. Are you familiar with 311?

Is that like, actually? I don't know. They're like so. They're a rock. Yeah, yeah, they're like stoner. I was like big in them in high school. They're very like pseudo psychedelic vibey music. Well, it's like their biggest song. Is there like a hit that like, I guarantee the first three songs in their Spotify, you know. Okay.

Like it's in enough movies and enough like culture stuff. Like it's a very pop culture. All right. Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not. Real lines of vibe, man. They're fun. Okay.

I've never heard them. But that's pretty dope. I would check that out for sure. Thank you for the recommendation. Because I, I've been doing this since. God, I want to say 2011 or 2012. Every month I make a monthly playlist.

And then I actually have a, so I get a little too hyper-focused, organized sometimes, the whole ADHD shit where like I have a bunch of folders on my Apple music where it's like 2011, and then it's January 2011, February 2011. And I can see all the songs I was listening to that month. And then I make the best of,

fuck the auto ones that they make for you. I have my own best of that I make of like, yep, that month and that was the jam and I put like my top um I do two per month so my top 24 songs i throw an extra one in for flavor call it even 25 of like my 25 songs of the year and so so yeah i'll listen on the i'll add them to this month if they're if they rock they're they're a vibe dude they're definitely like super chill I oh I also got tickets uh I'm seeing doshi in November dude you son of bitch and you saw the woo I hate you so much dude I got to talk about comics with

Riza for like, I was so afraid of like bugging him because, you know, it's like he's the Rizza. And I was so afraid of like being someone like, and then I thanked him for American Saga because show means a lot to me. And he talked a little bit. And then I was like, all right, I did it. Like I didn't ask for a photo. Like I'm going to just like I feel good. Like I didn't bug dude.

And then a friend of mine was talking to him and I cycled back. And they were talking about comics. And I was like, oh, ho, ho. And then like 45 minutes of geeking out with Riza to the point where he's like, yo, you know, you should talk to you should talk to you. you just talk to my boy method and I would like he was like referencing method man like someone I should know I'm like the fuck method man and uh at the end of the conversation I was like absolute pleasure to meet you man I'm like do you mind if we get a photo real quick he's like oh not at all and he puts up the w and he shoulders me and I was like can I am I allowed he's like because

I said so you can and I got to throw up hey man who takes for the children but I asked permission I was like is this acceptable woo stupid bro Mad Dog, Winston, how do you judge film even if you're not represented? Coy, do you get overwhelmed with the amount of media put on you? Cheers, boys. I listen to Christian every day at work. Glad he's not here. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.

I never understood, like, let me put it to you this way. I think it's pretty obvious that America is a predominantly white country. I think that's something that we're aware of, go figure. So to that point, I've spent a majority of my life being in a scenario where I am the minority in almost every room that I walk into. There are rare exceptions, obviously. So one of the keys to that is I very much can look at media that doesn't have me there and still appreciate it if it's done well. It doesn't matter. Now, the reason why people want to see representation and they want to see that is because it does help you connect even more when you're able to see yourself or stories that you.

you may have more directly associated with. But to have true media literacy and to have empathy and things like that is the ability to look at a story and judge a story for how the story is actually portrayed and not just because you do or don't see yourself one way or the other. It is nice to see yourself. And we should do more of that because there are more types of stories to explore. But at the end of the day, I can always, like the Barbie movie is mainly for ladies. There is plenty for me to pull out of that movie.

You know what I'm saying? Like without having lived the, you know, the female experience. So I judge it purely based off of how well done is this movie, is this TV show, etc. And then, Coy, your question was, do you get overwhelmed? Yes. I'm kind of like at a hard drive overful moment in life because I knew once we got to like late February, early March, my summer is like March to July. And like July is always my craziest month of the year. Um, this year, because the ComicCon mainly, but this year was Superman Fantastic 4 and Comic

con. And I currently have eight jobs. And I worked all eight of them at the most I'd ever worked of them in July. Um, in July I covered Superman and Fantastic 4. I had 14 interviews for the Hollywood Reporter. I had seven tapings for DC Studio showcase. I had three tapings for DC high volume. I did 21 things for the real rejects. I kept. on almost daily posts on my YouTube. Like I hit a point where I was like, I, I don't know that I'm living or if I'm just outputting. Like I felt like I was just like, and I thought August was going to be like, it hasn't been.

So I've hit a point where comics aren't like as enjoyable and movies aren't as enjoyable and comics aren't as enjoyable. But I don't think it's forever. I think I'm just so burnt out that like nothing is fun. Like when you're so hungry and you open the fridge and you're just like, I'm like that with media right now. I'm just like, and I know that's temporary, but I'm currently very burnt out and I'm very

nonplussed, which feels bad. I don't like being apathetic, but I'm finding that it's good for me to hit this wall because I'm finding things in life that have nothing to do with media that are making me happy. And I think I needed this to get that. I wouldn't have found these things without it. So I'm very grateful, but I'm so tired. I'm overwhelmed.

The biggest thing that has been a blessing in my life. I have both a rediscovered music that I haven't listened to in a long time, because I've actually been very out of love with music recently. I'm not a big fan of a lot of the stuff that I'm hearing come out as much with exception. So going back down a rabbit hole of maybe albums of favorite artists that I never listened to has been big. And then honestly being in this play, I think unplugging from TV and movies and going back to the roots, it sounds so weird, but it is liberating. And it's a whole just different type of way of exploring, you know, just, just art.

It's been, it's been great, man. So yeah, maybe maybe just finding the same thing. I know your break is going to be good, your trip. For me, it's family. Like, I don't get to see my family as much as I like because I'm on the West Coast there on the East Coast. So taking a family trip, that's going to mean a lot to me. If all goes well, I'm going to dip into Boston for even like 30 hours.

like on the way to see my family. And I think I just want to walk around my city. And like experience. I miss Boston like as a character in my life. So I kind of want to like touch the, I just want to go to the top of the fucking prudential building. And I want to go to Bell in the Hand. Like I want to do my old like nostalgia.

Because lately nostalgia music has been really fulfilling. So I feel like if nostalgia is helping, I should like, you know, heroin that crap and go to my city. Not to do that, but to inject nostalgia. But yeah, I'm tired of media right now. Not like, I don't even blame the media.

I've just, you can have too much of anything, even water. Absolutely. Absolutely. You can, you can, I mean, drowning is not the same as giving yourself essentially water poisoning. Right, right. I feel like I live in the same world. So yeah, I'm excited for a little break. Hey, man.

Shakespeare, UGK and Lincoln Park. A trio I never thought would like be like this, but bro, literally here and been over, let me see it. by in the end it doesn't even matter followed by verily i sit like i mean bro just i just bought a uh uh three dollar bill y'all and significant other on vinyl nice i got limp biscuit on vital i don't know who bought that but me i don't know how those exist but i'm that's hilarious uh well reggie brown comes in how about cap making an appearance in spider man pete can reveal his identity and have sam help counsel pete over losing may and his friends that would be a better cameo than black widow

That's a good, that's a good, like, because Cap does do like that counseling as like his, as a side thing. I think that's not necessarily a terrible plan. I'm curious. I think narratively, Yelena is the most lost and broken of the new Avengers. I think her being in it makes a lot of sense for where Spider-Man's at. But I like the cap counseling idea because of that. So that's fun. I like that.

Yeah. I also wouldn't mind having scenarios where Spider-Man gets his street level and he's doing his thing. And those are the things in where maybe Elena, he talks. a little bit like she comes to help in a fight and she goes you know there's someone you could talk to that might be able to help you and then ends up in like cap's therapy group session or something but yelaine and cap are on opposite sides of things right now that's true but remember this is coming out post doomsday so maybe true they're not you don't know well this comes out pre doomsday but we don't know when it takes place as compared to the post credit scene fair uh that's also true

zachary became a new member thank you so much zachary mad dog comes in saying for reference to my chats today i've been watching lonesome dove coy and I just don't feel like characters have interesting journeys in modern writing. I don't know what Lonesome Dove is. I don't know. You knew that. But we were talking earlier about like liking everything or not. And I like more things than I don't.

I did a live stream earlier on my page. And Mad Dog asked like, you know, he values my opinion, but he thinks I shill. And I was just explaining, like, if I don't like something, I don't talk about it. And we've kind of turned the word shill into one of the, the many words that has lost meaning. A shill is someone who is inauthentic about liking something in order to sell something. I'm not pretending. I don't work at DC sometimes, but I don't get paid more if those movies do well.

I also genuinely like the stuff coming out, so it's not shilling. I also don't work at Marvel and I liked Fantastic Four. So like, I think that modern literature is in a different place than old literature, but there are things that are so exceptional that can only exist now, like Spider-Verse. and like the metamodernistic movement, I still think is the most 20-20s thing ever, and it's been beautiful to witness. Yeah.

Connor Millis, Corgi Wilson, no Chris-it boy, let's get silly. Follows it up with, I'm convinced after hearing the phrasing of Guns comments on Margo Robbie's Harley, maybe being in the DCU, that she is the really, really big cameo and peacemaker he's been talking about.

That'd be crazy. That would be pretty crazy, because I'm also curious, if she's still on board or if she's if she's like done like that barbine producing money i bro bro you know what i'm saying but i know she loves the character authentically like she she if anyone would come back margot loves her that's fair mark long says uh mdell says toby spiderman hues wolverine and hulk 2003 team up in secret wars happy friday that would be crazy Ed Norton coming back would be nuts.

But 2003 would be Banner. 2003 was Norton? No, because Incredible Hulk came out the same time as Ironman the same year. Oh, you're totally right. You're totally right. 100%. Yeah, that would be nuts, bro. Hey, man, look, there's not a lot of movie release dates I remember,

but I do remember a lot of those. What's funny is you said Banna, and I thought you just said Banner with like slang, and I was like, no. Oh, Bana. That's Bana. Yes. I was like, I know you've been listening to UGK a lot, but they're all Banner.

Bruce Banner, bitch. Yes, I get it. What the hell is wrong with you? No, that's Banna, bro. Plays Eric Banner. Yeah, yeah. Connor Moles comes back. Variety.

Gun was asked if Robbie would return to play the deadly, wisecracking anti-hero and future DC projects. Superman director kept his answer brief. That will be revealed down the line. All right. I don't know anything, but I love. Margarabi is Harley, so I like your theory. That's fair.

Connor Mullis, I just bought a case of beer is Bushlight. Bush Light is the nectar of the gods. Life is good. I drink the nectar, sweet, sweet nectar. I'm always so happy for Connor, just his experiences. Bro, I wish I could have just like a fraction of Conner's, just like positivity and energy, bro. That's how you know I'm getting older is because that little light of mine just keeps dimming

a little bit more and more. and I don't love that. So Connor helps kind of like, hey, that candle dine, just go ahead and just, it's a little more. I feel like post vacation, I'll feel more like Connor than I do right now.

That's fair. That's fair. Uh, Jaron, baby, love what yous do. It makes me days at work better thanks. What's your thinks of new peacemaker intro? Uh, we talked about it a good bit earlier,

but I, I dig it personally. I like Foxy Shazam and I like, uh, I like what Winston had to say about the anime elements. And I think it's a lot of fun. Yeah, absolutely. The one day that fan aminator's not here and I'm going on about anime, bro.

You'll watch later in comment. I'm sure. I'm sure. I just find it very funny. The minute I said it out, I literally thought to myself, I was like, Fanamator got to happen. You've summoned him. Literally, almost like I said, on your left, bro. I literally thought that that's what was going to happen.

He's the Babadook of Ammon animation for sure. legend m m 600 love you two what's your guys favorite x-men character thank you so much um either gambit or night crawler it's been it's been the two of them since day one man both from the power set their characterization all that kind of stuff what about you um i mean Deadpool shouldn't count so i won't say him but i want to um i like when cyclops is written well a lot i'm a big chamber guy though. I think Chamber is awesome. Storm's my all time favorite, but that feels like everyone

I feel like people are finally coming around on storm. It took forever, but now I feel like that's the answer. Storm is my all time favorite if I'm trying to be edgy and unique chamber. Interesting with Chamber. I had to go Google that real quick because I was not familiar with

Chambers. Dude, he's so intense and he speaks through his mind because he, when his powers manifested, he blew off the bottom of his face with a side of powers. So he's got this boundless energy of flame just boiling out of his face. And he's just like this James Dean cool, edgy. Like he just speaks to teen angst so well. Like he's the angstiest dude.

You would have, especially the age at which you were introduced to him that may have done exactly what you're talking about. Angst. Oh, man. Okay. We've got about 30-ish minutes left, y'all. We're at 37. We can still do this. Keep it pushing.

Keep sending those questions. Appreciate that. That was a good one. Connemales, a well-done steak is a burnt steak. change my mind. I don't need to change your mind because that is correct. I do like medium well. I'm a monster, but not a full monster. Yeah, you're questionable. That that's, that's, that's, like, that's a little light, love tap on your cheek for that, but I'll let you have it. Well done is a full backhand,

bro. That's, that's, that's a, you get out there and you make that any money. What the hell? Like, no, medium rare. That's the way to go. I like medium when I trust the place. I don't usually trust the place. That's why medium well safe. That's, I mean, fair. That's totally fair. I guess to that point, I'm only getting stakes at certain places. Like, I'm not going to, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not going to, if I'm out, if I'm on an airport, it's getting medium well because I want to make it through the flight. I mean, well, that's that, I'm not going to eat a steak at an airport. That's what I'm saying.

We made different choices. You, you clearly, and I don't like yours. Why are you eating steak at an airport? God damn it. If there was ever time to just get Popeyes and chill, bro, like don't do this to yourself. God damn. Um, Connor comes back and said, I slap my fuckers if they eat those stakes with ketchup. You goddamn right.

Just the, just the, what great timing. Good job, Connor Mullets. Oh, my God. That's hilarious. Um, Connor comes back and says, come slam some bruise with me only a 27 hour drive. That's fair. As long as you're not doing both. I like drinking.

I like driving. I don't like drinking and driving. That's fair. I just want to be the parent for a moment. Good for you. I was going to say, I'd log road. trips I have been known to occasionally be like, me, I'm not going to give up, but I might have a beer.

That's not going to kill nobody. I just don't need nobody to see that shit. Don't do, don't be me. Don't be, don't be Winston. Winston bad. Don't be Winston. Legend M. 600. My best steak is grilled on a barbecue and red is,

damn right, boy. Absolutely. We actually make fun of my dad sometimes now because he spends his money on, like, the finer things in life now that he's kind of, of at that retirement age. So he'll get these like waggo stakes and then burn the shit out of them. And I'm like, Dad, let me do it for the love of God, bro. It hurts.

It's so ridiculous. Chris Cook, thank you so much for joining becoming a member. We appreciate that. Connor comes in and says, don't worry. I'm considered Gen Z and I'm in the bar going drinking. Majority of my generation since high school got to represent. I'm going to hold down the fort, my guy. Way to hold it down.

bro, were you, were you, I don't know about you, but I actually did not really drink or party to do anything until senior year. And that was after I got into college. It was essentially the second half of my senior year. I was like, we good, baby. And I went crazy, but I didn't really do shit before that. Like, were you, were you partying earlier? You kind of waited. I got, I think I got like sober twice before I was 21. Damn. Like, I think I had, I had identified it as a problem twice before I could leave. legally purchase it. Like I was I was definitely an alcoholic at 15 and then at 18 and then I got better. And now I have to like be mindful because it's something that's like a slippery slope for

me. But like I would sneak in like straight vodka and a pole and spring bottle and drink during class black out and be like why does everyone hate me? Um, like all the teachers like it was a problem. So, uh, yeah, I like, I grew up. I definitely didn't. I didn't I'm not proud of some of my in high school. Yeah. No, I get it. I totally. 1.6 GPA, 1390 SAT. They made me retake it because they thought I cheated. Damn. Okay. Damn. Cowboys, Man 92, H. Coy and Winston on this topic. I just read that Superman has just crossed 600 million worldwide, making it the highest greatest comic book movie of 2025. That is correct. It looks like it will go down as the number one. It's what they were saying, uh, projecting 625 there and 525 for fantastic.

four, so yeah, no, no, no, we talked about that. Definitely come back, check out the rest of the stream, and you can see we were kind of talking about numbers or superhero movies. Legend comes back again. You guys rock. By the way, cool, Mikey got there, Koi, go up. Damn, that's pretty cool. I'm getting fancy. It's like an actual, it's pretty, like a... Dude, you're doing it. I'm doing it. I'm excited. I've got, I've got a new...

I have a second light. I didn't have a stand for it for the longest time. So the second stand is coming, so my light. should be way more balanced come this weekend. The play is it's a short run. It's just this weekend. So, you know, we'll do the plugs. We normally do it at the halfway point, but I'll be back on some videos and some streams

come Monday and hopefully the lighting will look a lot better. And got a surprise for you guys here with Christian. I can't talk about it yet, but that will be announced pretty soon too. All righty. Let's see. I want to give us a love to the live chat real quick. Mr. Nerd Fanatic.

Damn, Koi, Goodwill, hunting. Oh my God. You're not, you're not far off, man. That's one of my favorite movies of all time. And when I tell you, I identified. I identified. That's absolutely hilarious, man. Wow. I liked them apples. And then I fermented them. Um, okay. Go, pal. When I was in grad school, my friends used to do the $10 talk about challenge where the challenge was finishing that much, would you damn right. to be so much, bro. It used to be so much like, look, are you going to have the runs probably?

But your ass was fed. You know what I'm saying? Like you was fed. It was a challenge. Exactly. Now I challenge you to spend less than $10. Bro. Come on now.

Armada. New Ghostface and Offset album. Really? Juicy Jay released a full jazz album and Rocky delayed. Oh, not together. Ghostface put out an album and Offset put out. Oh, I knew about the Ghostface. Space album, I was like, I literally thought he was saying they did an album together.

I was like, I don't see Ghostface doing an album with Offset, but who knows? Do you say release a few jazz album, Rocky delayed his next product till 27? This shit be crazy. Bro, I mean, look, I've been preaching from the top of the rooftops. Lil Johns' like motivational, like meditations and, and what are they called when you, like, manifestations, bro, they're fire. Like I legit play that shit before like, you know, auditions. I play that shit like before I go to bed, just set my mind right.

I do it like I do the morning meditations. Like little John put some dope shit out, man, for sure. So, hey, sometimes you got to try new shit. Connor Mullis, Tremel Tillman's Goblin will go hard as well. Trust, I agree. Uh-huh. He was slap. He is a fantastic actor and gives me all of the right energy for that.

especially for those that have seen severance when you see him start to go off the rails, that's showing me some goblin craziness there. Also him dancing is always terrifying, but like, yeah, that's goblin. Dude, that whole scene is my favorite. When they bring the band in, oh my God, bro.

Did you see that he showed up at Hollywood Forever with Ben Siller for Zoolander with the whole, I was, I was this close to going and I was like, I'm tired and I have so many regrets. Yep, absolutely, man. I wish I had gone myself. That's the Glasgow became a YouTube.

member. Thank you so much for that. Appreciate it, but I go, pal. I'm imagining some people's heads exploding when a black man shows up named Jefferson Davis as a born and raised Virginia who saw the trade and they pulled down off the street since years ago. Yeah, yeah. Those that don't know, their Spider-Man, Lord, definitely going to be a little

like, I was born in Danville, the last Confederate capital of the country. I feel you. It is a hell of a thing to go back to. Colonize, thank you so much for the double donations appreciate that. A lot more of that, guys. A lot more of them dollar ones. We have photo. We push it slowly, but surely we can still do. We still got 30 minutes. Still got plenty we could do. So we would appreciate those coming in,

man. Go pal comes back. Did you all see a clip of Plum grabbing pages that? I did not see that. I was at, because I was at the game, he was talking about Kelsey Plum and Paige Beckers. I did not see that, but I definitely saw Paige put on a foul, yell at the ref, immediately stop, and then while the free throws were being shot, she just did like this. and just started praying because she's known to be very Christian. And she was just like, Lord Jesus, just let me not cuss this motherfucker out right now, Lord. Let me not throw hands. I don't need a technical, Lord.

I'm just going to go ahead and wait here. Thank you. Amen. That's what I assume she said, because it was, it was definitely a, just, Patty Boy, are you going to see Oasis? I work on the internet. I cannot afford Oasis. How much does Oasis charge for their tickets?

I want to say they're like five or six hundred bucks. What the fuck? Bro, if I couldn't afford to go to Wu, I definitely can't afford to go to Oasis. Yeah, like I'd see Wu before Oasis. And that wasn't cheap. I know that wasn't cheap, especially with the last. Yeah, well, they're not that bad, but they're not cheap.

It's like, it looks like starting from about 300. Oh, but that's starting. That's going to be no, I don't see a concert unless I'm general omission. Oh, you think that that's, you think that that's going to be that's probably like rafters. Yeah. Okay. Because if it's starting at. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Zach Roberts. As a bakery owner, I feel bad charging people $9 for a cinnamon roll, but I have to. Economy is effed. I much, uh, L. Well, much love fellas. Coy, your comic book, you are my comic book Bible. Thank you.

I'm honored. Dude, the YouTube's been actually moving. I, I just pivoted into like making all the quality look good. like giving up an editing. So like I've just been doing it like stream of conscience. Like I was like, do I pick which battle? And now I'm just like, if people like it and look at how it sounds. So I'm just not even editing. I might have to. I might have to. Because I don't have the time and I'd rather like make it for the people that understand my my goal here. So I hit like 51K, which is dope. Wow, good for you, man. That's what I'm, I'm excited with the play wrapping down

of me being healthy again. It's going to give me more time to do stuff. And again, the stuff I got going on with Christian should free up some more time for me to be at home. Yeah. Blaine a little bit more once we come down the pipeline on that. But yeah, no, nobody's blaming you, Zach, for having to charge $9 for cinnamon roll. Like you said, it's the world we're in. Everything is more expensive. It just is what it is, man.

Tyler comes back, says 311 is funk, reggae, hip hop, rock, psychedelic, stoner, L.O.L. and it all works. You've definitely heard Amber all mixed up in beautiful disaster. Okay, I'll put them on afterwards because I'm, I'm, You're right. I probably do know them. I just... I think Amber's in like three or four different teen movies

from the late 90s, early 2000s. Okay. I'll have to look into it, man. Look into it for show. Busy B. Hey, Winston and Coy. Hope y'all have a great weekend. Thank you.

You too, Busy B. Thank you. That. Joey Pedrus, just sending a little love. Appreciate it, Joey. Hey, the needle's moving. Now, y'all, we're up to 45. There we go.

Almost halfway. Almost halfway there. Let's go. Oh, Stuart Blackie. Support. Hot take, age of Ultron is underrated. I agree. I don't know if that's as much of a hot take now.

I think I would, that would have been a hotter take back of the day. I don't think it was loved as much back in the day. But I think it's one of those ones that's aged better, especially as far as connecting all the dots. What do you think? I still don't like it very much. Sir.

I think, I think I'd love to see the Ragnarok movie that was teased in that instead of the Radarok movie we got. You didn't like Ragnarok either? I think Ragnarok's overrated. Sir. I think Ragnarok's a lot more like Love and Thunder than people think. Sir!

I'm sure you've seen those TikToks. That dude that's been good and too much. And so there's just a voice in the backer. Sir! I just, I don't think it's top 10 and a lot of people put it there. I think it's fun, but I don't think it's like, I don't think it should be in the same conversation as Iron Man, Winter Soldier, and, like, Infinity War.

Wow. I'm gonna tell Tyca what you say. Victor Garrity comes in and says, Didn't See Fantastic Four because I had a kid and drew. Congratulations. I only got out once since, and I chose Superman. Respect, I get it. Sleep is important.

And that's wholesome. I like, I like the real like, you know what? I'm going to see this movie about Hope. I just had a kid. Absolutely, man. Well, that's why I'm actually confused why you didn't see Fantastic Four. That is also about how. having your first child.

That's fun. That's going to be fun to watch now. That I agree with, for sure. Especially the sequence before we get Franklin, them trying to babyproof the house. That's not really a spoiler. It's just like a fun montage I do of trying to baby proof the house. I'm sure you'll probably enjoy that.

Now he's living that. Exactly. Victor follows up with since November 2019, Disney Plus HBO Max Peacock and Paramount Plus came out. That's an insane amount of content without leaving your house. You damn right? Dude, the number of movies that I read realize I had never seen that I finally, you know what I had never seen before and I finally

watched and I was like, this is rough, but I'm glad I'm watching this. American History X. Oh, dude, that was one of my favorite movies in high school and college. Like that movie hit me hard. I had never seen it and I had heard that it was rough and I had heard about the curb stomping. And I was just like, my first visit to L.A., I went to Venice and I just sat at that basketball all court and like absorb that impact because that movie meant a lot to me because it it was one of the it was actually kind of like broke back mount where I was like yeah but we fixed it the movie like I

I was so naive when I was young that I thought movies changed more the world than they actually do but I was so wrapped in them that America District I was like look we solved racism and that movie really really helped contextualize shit as I get older to it to a certain to a certain extent movies do helped change the world. Obviously, we wouldn't put as much sock. I mean, they didn't, but yes, no, they're not. I mean, they dent the world and they have impact, but I was a naive enough kid to think that, like, broke back being about a couple getting married and it being, you know, made meant it couldn't be a problem for people. And American history acts being like,

look at how he learns. Like, I just, I miss being that naive, though, man. Being a kid was great. Excuse my language. You know, we've said it. There's a couple. But, you know, bitch ass probably thought Crash also solve race. I know I hated crash from the jump that movie I saw it in theaters I was like 15 and I was like this is the most contrived like that movie felt so pandering and I was a child I tossing my bag swag but like how does that movie get a gna much less a win and like yeah that movie that movie hurts me that movie is the armageddon criterion collection collection invalidation of racism movies man, who you tell it? In Quanos, I think I said that right. Superior movies are down for the same reason as Star Wars. Exactly the IP name is all you need in taking fan investment for granted.

I agree with that, actually. I think that that is partially true. I also think just from the standpoint of if you, if you, like one of my favorite foods is steak. If I had steak every single day, I would stop liking steak quite as much. think there was a massive amount of oversaturation that happened. And it was not just oversaturation. It was oversaturation and a dip in quality. So it wasn't, I'm having a Wagyu steak once every like month or two months. It was I'm having the Ralph's like bottom barrel bin like steak on sale

for $3. It's probably not even steak, you know, every single day, breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And it was too much. And so the quality was down and the quantity was up. And I think that that's affected a lot, throw in everything else we said about movie theaters and movie theater etiquette and everything else and pricing and all that, you know. What you think? I agree. I think that is shifting back, though. Like, your sentiment, I think, is applying to a lot of things from the last few years, but I think we're going in the right direction now, and I hope it's not going to be received as like a blanket thing. I hope we see an uptick as with quality. Yeah, right here, Marvel gave us too many well-done stakes in the

short period of time. That's real. That is some real ish, man. Go pal. Must take the steak off the grill at 120. You damn right. Let that whole rest. That a rest.

And I'm so hungry from this episode. I am too. I'm the steak, Piccato burrito in my fridge right now. Ooh, that sounds good. From my favorite Mexican join on the planet, salsa and beer, I have my,

like, it's waiting for me. But I'm not going to get to that beast until 8 o'clock at night, because I have another three shows to film today. bro i didn't even do anything special right now i just have been so busy and been sick so i've just been eating better but like the fact the doctor was like man you down 12 pounds i said guess i'm eating more fish damn it like oh wait this works god damn it because that's the problem

i hear that i did something right and all of a sudden i'm a double and triple down that's just how i am i just lost six pounds in two weeks by being on the craziest cut i've ever done and this was the first eat out meal i've had in 21 days but you know that's kind of taste better than anything I've never had. Sorry phrasing. Okay. Uh, good dancing dog 60. We'll gun have a hawk to a hawk girl joke.

I'm sure somebody. I mean, it's peacemaker. So it's a little more crass. So I think at some point it may happen, but I don't know if we're getting the justice gang again. I think we may, that may have been just kind of a one and done.

I don't know if you. Yeah, I mean, I think like a long game. I know James Gunn does a lot of like crass jokes, but I feel like he doesn't do jokes from, he does very, topical jokes, but he doesn't make them only like a window of time.

Hawk Tua feels like a window of time that has passed. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like it, it would be like saying like, was I? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's true. That's definitely true, man.

Coy, after taking the SAT twice, Apple sauce, bitches. So I took, I took the SATs twice and I took the ASVAB twice. The ASVabs, the military aptitude test. they get public school kids and lower income communities to take and to try to recruit

the military. And I didn't realize that at the time. So like they make you take this test so that recruiter start calling nonstop. And I took that thing and I did like crazy good. And they thought I cheated on that too because they looked at everything else that I had done. So I when they had me retaken, it was at the government building in Boston. And it was the most terrifying experience of my life. And then the like military called every week for the rest of the time I lived in Massachusetts.

It's like Air Force, Marines. Like it was, it's crazy what they put public school kids through if they're from like a rough neighborhood. Like it's, it's messy because they're just like, you don't have another choice. Come join the military. Well, I mean, that's something that has been known for a while that they specifically target low income neighborhoods as a means to be like, this is going to be your way out. Yeah, dude. And Lowell was like, what are you going to do for a living? Like you're from this?

Good luck. Yeah. Yep. Cowboys fan 92. By the way, Coy, McLemore has put up three bangers. Heinz Hall, Heinz Hall part two, and F'd up. Check them out. I've heard Heinz Hall. I haven't heard part two. I will check him out. I like Maclemore more. Unironically and ironically.

He's never been for me, bro. The only, the only, the only, the only, the only, the only, the only, the only, the only, the only, the only, the only, the only, the only judgment. I judge my appreciation. of it sometimes. The only thing that made it worse literally where I was just like, it's fine. He just, you know, some Seattle white boy, he just likes a rapist. Then when he's like, yo, Kendrick dog, they robbed you, bro. And they want to release the text messages. I don't need to see that, bro. Now you look like you pandering to everybody else

in hip hop. I just... They'd love that. Could have been between you and Kendrick. Didn't need to see that text message, bro. Tyler comes back and says, I'd recommend their song grassroots first. Has all the styles in one song. God damn. Okay. Grassroots. I will listen to it.

Armada. Did you all listen to the new chance the rapper album? I think it's good to say that he made his comeback. Also saw clips and weekend last week. That was a lot of fun. Wow, you had a movie, a music packed weekend. That's pretty dope. I have not heard. I just put it on to my cue of stuff to listen to because I was a big fan of chance at his peak. Wasn't the biggest fan of his first album because a lot of people don't realize that all the stuff prior were all mixed tapes. His first studio album was the one. that people used to make fun of, I love my wife, I love my wife, which is also sad and kind of ironically hilarious that he then ended up getting divorced like last year. So like two, three years removed from said album of I love my wife. He apparently does not love his wife. It's just.

That new clips album is great, though. I love the new clip stuff. Chains. Oh, oh. Crazy. One of my favorite Kendrick features. Absolutely, man. Absolutely. Busy B,

how many hours do you actually sleep, Coy? I try to get at least six. I want eight because it's better for like losing weight. It's better for fitness. I'm really been focusing on my health lately. Like I want to get back to being shredded so I need more. With my schedule six is likely. But I advocate for sleep.

I think, you know, grind culture and like always be doing stuff. Like sleep is the only way to maintain the other 16 hours. So I'm trying to hit eight. Right now six is kind of my. best bet. Okay. I love that. All right.

You doing all that talking about health, I was like, yeah, I'm supposed to drink like five of these a day. Dude, I'm monitoring every calorie. I'm trying to hit 200 grams of protein every day. And then next month, I'm going to have a lighter month. October, I'm doing carbs, fats.

Like, I'm monitoring every macro. I'm going crazy on this one. Okay. All right. I love it. Dance a dog 60. think that a live action metalman could work. Yeah, I do because I think Stag Industries is going to be a factor. They've really shown in Creature Commandos and then Superman, like how many companies are a thing, like Lord Tech and Stag. And I think Metalman can play into that idea, so I could see that.

Okay, all right. Connor comes back again. I think Age of Ultron was a bit ahead of its time. Yeah. I mean, I think so. Look, there are definitely issues with the movie. I'm not going to sit here and just. you know, completely retcon, you know, thought processes of age of alter.

And I think it was rushed a little bit. I think that they realized they had a hit. They're like, we got to get back to another Revengers film. That's why you had a little bit of mixed reviews of Phase 2 movies where, like, people like Iron Man 3 now, but didn't love it at first. Thor the Dark World, people kind of are starting to, like, more now, but didn't love it first. like Winter Soldier is the only thing in phase two that was like stamp of approval. Holy shit, this is hella good.

Yes, you got Guardians. Yes, you got Ant Man at the tail end there. But the only movie that was like, to this day, people still argue might be the greatest superior movie of all time is Winter Soldier. And Age of Ultron, I do think is better than we gave it credit for, but there are definitely issues. Why are we introducing Quicksilver to kill Quicksilver two seconds later? That was kind of crazy, you know? but that's my two cents um dancing dog imagine if the globe trotters paid to be in the NBA and they

actually drafted real college players and competed with a few trick plays here and there oh that'll be pretty interesting but i like i know there i obviously know they're mad good but i don't know if they're able to keep up like at the end of the day with like a lebron and a kevin duran and you know, all that, and Luca, I don't know. Maybe. And then the last one for now, Connor comes in, going to fire up the Blackstone after this episode. I love that.

Steak. Dude, somebody else put in the, in the comments that they were like, I got like shrimp and salmon and like peaches on the grills right now. And I was like, ooh, that's how good that I'm off. I'm jealous. I am way too hungry. Way too hungry, clearly. So, I don't know. All right.

So, oh, we got a couple more. just came in right now j c cleaver have you guys listen to prof sorry i will add that to my list though i i need to um huh okay never heard of this individual uh this is a rapper singer producer based at a minneapolis no man i'm not familiar with prof um has prof worked with anybody that oh the name sounds familiar but i don't know why yeah why why am i I yeah I see I see I see they worked with the rhyme sayers at one point all right now I have to go have to go look into this my apologies I'm not familiar uh Nathan Drake think we'll get full scorpion suit in brand new day yes uh I think it'll be a mix of

what he wears in the comics and your friendly neighborhood is very comic actor with some like armor machinations like to make the the gang war element like I think they'll but yeah I think we're going to get scorpion i mean it's about time man fun fun character really fun character that we just haven't gotten a chance to to check out at all so all right well again that is what we have for the time being two more just came in i saw that okay yeah let's do that too um nathan jac comes in again do you like tech nine one of my faves that love tech nine uh yeah i think tech nine is one of the most slept on like i think he's the best independent rapper for speed versatility lyricism I think he's like insane.

My buddy Echo actually did a song with him a couple years ago. And it was the first time I was like, oh, a friend of mine is like not just a good rapper, but like he did well enough to keep up with Tech Nine. And that was like the most like, whoa. But I was really proud of him. But yeah, I think Tech Nine is a genius. Tech Nine is really great. I mean, you know, still my favorite underground slash mainstream.

Because like Tech Nine never, he worked with a lot of mainstream artists, but he never really like hit full mainstream. strike like he really kind of was like one of the underground kings no pun intended on u gk who actually did go full main dream at one point but reminds me a lot of um mf doom who oh sure sure all time dude you know i found out's a huge mf doom fan rizza probably sean gun is like ride or die he really he literally said if he could only listen to one artist the rest of his life it would just be mf doom like on repeat like like quoted a bunch of lyrics at me we talked about different discos we talked about the evolution of his career through time.

Like we broke down. He was wearing an MF Doom shirt. I randomly interviewed him this week. He came in and I was like, let's talk. And I didn't prep. We just put an MF Doom shirt on. Check it out over in Real Rejects right now. So I talked to him at MFDune and the dude lit up and we geeked out about him. I need to show you something that was flashed to me on, on like, Instagram.

And I have to probably buy this immediately. This might be the greatest graphic tee I have ever seen in my life. Koi, hold on. This right here. So apparently James and Sean both bond over MF Doom and we talk 20 minutes after camera about him more. So some flowers to needle drops and the MF Doom variety as well. Dude.

Oh, dude. I mean, that's cool. I would love to talk to them about that too. This right here. I know you love you some Outcast and some UGK. It's an international player's anthem comic book. Dude, I want, there's one of these for Kung Fu Kenny I might get. That is so dope.

This is so far. I want this so bad. Every time we hit the pocket lot with turning heads, bro. That's so good. Oh, look, anybody looking for birthday ideas, my birthday in December. That is, that is for any of the family that's watching this right now, man, because damn. Mine's in three weeks, y'all. Kung Fu Kani comic shirt.

Are you doing something? I don't know yet, other than traveling. Like, I'm going to do something in L.A., but, like, I want to touch East Coast soil. But otherwise, I'm going to do something here. No, that makes sense. Casey Grant, how many hours do you sleep? How many hours before sleep do you stop eating to cut or does it matter if you're counting calories? It helps to stop about two to three hours minimum.

When I'm cutting with calories, I make sure it's two or three hours. But my next cut, I'm going to try to do one meal a day cut in October. And I'm going to try to hit my 200 grams in one big meal and only eat in an hour window and have 23 hours of fasting at all time. I'm going crazy this year. Damn, dude. trying to have fucking 12 pack you actually trying to play arrow i want to say bye to my abs and not have my age say bye to them for me like i want to get them back and have them for a few more years until i can't never had them that would be a dream we'll see i had them when i was in my 20s i haven't

had them in my 30s i want them back to say buy proper that's fair air kirby comes in it says proff is good very underrated all right i'll check them out uh dancing dog comes back remember the film belly hype williams yes i do great movie the chat was talking about higher learning earlier that made me happy i love higher learning higher learning a long time that's another american history x intense movie man that movie's so good and like weirdly more topical today than it was when they made it which is sad so true connor mollas comes back shan got a slept on man he's got talent i agree i there's a reason why other than family there's a reason why his brother keeps working with him he's very good and i liked what he did in this first episode too and gilmore

girls i never watched it uh vincent uh zawada So excited for Eminens Stans, Doc. There's an Eminem Stans doc. Dude, it's in theaters and they don't do AMCA A list. So I haven't seen it yet. It's nationwide. Oh, God, damn it. I got to check this out.

They're not doing it on A list. I'm getting so tired of them. But it is, it looks like it's on Paramount Plus. Oh, then I'm going to watch it there because I wanted to go see it in theories. I don't need to see on the big screen. F that. Yeah, I'd prefer if it was A list, but I can't pay $30 right now. No, no.

I I the streaming on the 26 so in like four days I will happily stream a doc all day I'm actually in the middle of the cowboys uh like 90s run document and it's fantastic it might be one of the greatest sports documentaries of all time and not just because I'm a cowboy's fan it's just really really well done we wanted to know a little bit of something of why people are obsessed with douse cowboys check that out for sure um all right and the last one for now dancing dog 60 remember when mackai viver was in everything yes I do eight mile ain't no movie no mackay fifer i mean look dude the funniest part about that is not the fact that macky five was in it the funniest part is that it's a young anthony mackett he gets fully roasted and you know that em actually use real elements of anthony macky's life into this and he's even said in interviews anything back he goes yeah no me and we're cool we be talking about stuff and then we get to the final drop battle and i was like wait a bit this motherfucker talk about me what what like he got genuinely mad i tell you i sat down with mackie at comic con No, you didn't. I'd never met him before.

And, like, I was a little intimidated because I know he doesn't love doing interviews where it's like, he wants it to be about the thing he's talking about. And I knew my whole audience would want to talk about Avengers. And I didn't want to do that to the dude. So I was like doing that, like, high wire act of like people tuning into my stuff, but I wasn't going to ask about Avengers. So I was able to talk about basically everything else. And I brought up Papa Doc. I brought up Tupac. I brought up like his OG career.

And the dude couldn't have been friendlier and happier because I didn't. Like, he knew who I was. He knew I was a comic book guy. And since I didn't talk about it, he gave me so many great conversations. And then after we interviewed, we talked for like 25 minutes about, like, the culture of making hip-hop movies before America adapted hip-hop. And, like, it was a really, like, really personal talk. I loved the dude. But the whole time, I was like, I've heard this guy won't want to talk about blah, blah, blah.

And then he couldn't have been more personal to me. He was great, man. Wow. I love that, man. Last one again, Nathan Drake. you guys see union about amazon workers no i have not seen that one yet and it's on my list i that's the other thing i try to do i try and get away from straight media stuff and do a documentary every now and again just to give my brain something different to process you know because i

actually watched the the biggest loser documentary too which was also i remember watching that show back in the day bro it's crazy some of the behind-the-scenes stuff that they that Netflix like kind of busted open about all this man um and we got another one brandon summers winson kidnap Christian so he watches the boondocks. Coy bring the duct tape for his eyelids. I wonder if Christian was like Boondocks, he might. I feel like he might like it, bro. Especially that second episode with the trial of R. Kelly.

That whole, that, for that to be the second one out the gate is absolutely hilarious. Get that carrot out my face. If I want to have hot blood pressure, that's my business. Like, just. Boondocks was what I wanted South Park to be. For all the people to get mad at me for South Park, Boondocks was like what I wanted to feel. That's fair.

That's totally fair. Well, I know you got to get out of here. I do too. We got two more that came in. Plug your stuff real quick and then we'll get these last couple of questions. Coy, which got going on? I'm down on YouTube at Coy Johnro. Just hit 51K.

I've been killing it over there with basically peacemaker reactions every week, Alien Earth reactions every week, reviews for all that stuff, live streams every single week. And then movies starting with caught stealing next week. Lots of stuff over there and Instagram and TikTok. Lots of movement. Check them out. You can find me at the Swaggy Blur on all platforms.

Again, I've got to get through my play this weekend. And then Monday, we'll be back with the new Blurred Breakdown. I'll be streaming again some more and all that kind of stuff. For those that know, some of the stuff have been going on over there, I don't want to say it too loud. We'll be talking more about that too. So we'll get into all that. So thank you so much to everybody that's come through already.

Okay, got a couple more before we get out of here. Can you both please react to War of the World? Is it like the Ice Cube bed at the one that's, apparently we're maybe maybe maybe i will i will see um anybody got time for that take of schlop kirk up hey guys what do you think uh headed cavil becoming bats not sure of gun uh would or he him would do it but could be fun because bats and soups are alike in comics what do you think uh i think there's a lot of roles for him to play i'd love to see him play barren blood and etrigan and all that stuff. But I don't see him as Batman personally. I would like to see him as Vandal Savage.

There's a lot of roles I could see. Batman's not one of them. I just keep thinking back to him in Mission Impossible. And I keep thinking of like the him cocking his thing. That's what I want. I want Henry Cavill to play. You know what I'm saying? So like let him be like really calculating because Savage has a tendency to be very egotistical, but very cold and calculating. My favorite iteration of him has to be the young justice version of him. But even the Justice League Unlimited, Justice League version too, I think he would do a great job with.

Eric Kirby, the new JID is very good guys. I'll check that out too. I've heard good things. That I've heard. I have as well. And with that, we're going to go ahead and get out of here. Thank you so much for watching this episode of Caps and Cows. Christian will be back on Monday for, you know,

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