The Kristian Harloff Show - Predator: Badlands Sets Franchise Record!

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, we're breaking down the biggest movie news stories of the week! "Predator: Badlands" has officially set a franchise record, dominating the box office and proving there's still plenty of life left in the legendary sci-fi series. But while Predator soars, other films are struggling — and we're diving into why. We'll also talk about the surprising tone shift in the upcoming Rambo prequel, the uncertain future of the Uncharted sequel, and major studio moves as Comcast pursues Alcon and beats out Warner Bros. Plus, Rian Johnson gives an update (or lack thereof) on his long-discussed Star Wars trilogy. Join Kristian as he reacts, analyzes, and debates all the latest from the movie world — from box office records to behind-the-scenes shakeups. SPONSORS: RAYCON: Go to http://www.BUYRAYCON.com/KRISTIAN to get 20% off the Everyday Earbuds Classic. BUTCHERBOX:  As an exclusive offer, our listeners can get free protein in every box for a year PLUS $20 off your first box when you go to https://www.ButcherBox.com/KRISTIAN to get this limited time offer and free shipping always CASH APP: Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/76rlxe00 #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Discounts and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures.    

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Predator Badlands has a big weekend and it sets some franchise records. But that was really the only thing that did well this week. And box office struggling. The Christie Martin duck was Sidney-Sweeney. That's struggle. Will running band be the next one to struggle? We'll talk about that. Is the manufactured star an issue?

Not saying talent, saying what the system does. A story that I think stinks to high heaven is apparently the Rambo prequel is going for a lighter tone. My follow-up is, why make it? There is some uncharted potential news. Client Johnson is talking about the Star Wars trilogy again, all that and more on today's show with myself and John Roker. So let's get into it. And we get a lot to talk about. Cool.

Welcome back, everybody, to the show. It's Monday. joining me on the show as always. John, John, John, John. Hello, how's your going, everybody? Good to have you on the show, as always, John. Thank you. How was your weekend?

It was good. It was good. I drove up to L.A. a bunch of us got together. We have a huge friend coalition, and we got together for a dude night. We hadn't got together a long time, went to a friend's house and hung out all night. And then I drove back home after five hours. So I drove up.

Tough. And then drove back home. So five and a half hours. So yesterday was lying on the couch watching NFL. Good. nice um you know i started watching and i have to kind of push through it's eddington i don't love it it's not it's not a good ariastrofilm it really isn't i don't know where he's at after bow is afraid in eddington i don't know where you go with this i'm it's fairly dull

that's what it is like it's it was intellectually stimulating you know that'd be something but it's not even that no you know what i went up doing is that i and i already seen him i actually am right now we're gonna, I'm counter programming this show with something else right now. I am making public right now the, Welcome to Derry episode three. Um, reaction. I, um, I saw that already a couple days ago, but then my 14 year old who's into horror stuff.

Well, she's almost fucking, she'd be 14 in like two weeks. But she, she, she's a, uh, a big, um, horror fan. And so she's like, that, well, you watch welcome to Dary with me. And I was like, she could be our show. I was like, sure. So we watched episode one. Yeah. It's so adorable because I love seeing like this,

the, you know, the, the good person in there and like the, and when at the, because for spoilers, I won't spoil the whole thing, but there's something that happens at the end of episode one. Pretty shocking.

And yeah, shocking, but there's one particular thing that happens concerning. Like, I don't want to sing. I don't want to ruin it for people of them and see it. There's one particular character that something happens to. And,

And of all the other shit that was going on, my daughter was fine with it. Like the opening scene is just tough in general. But like she was watching. And then, but that just she, she was, she was a mess.

She was a mess. So I'm watching her and like, you know, I had to like, I had to like, I had to like, hug her and get her back to. And then I was like,

you know what we should do. Let's watch episode two. We'll watch like the beginning of it because I'll get your head. Well, it would. It got her head. It got her head off of the, that moment.

It wasn't the show itself. It was that moment. So then she's like, you're right, it feel better into it. And she was so locked into it. She's like, now she's like hyper-fixated on the show. She loves it, right? That song for Welcome to Derry is one of the best opening credit songs. It is such a great juxtaposition of what the show is.

And like I thought maybe they'd made that song. It was like that's an actual song from like the 50s. Yeah. Yeah. There's always been an undercurrent. You know, Kristen, as they've pitched the Norman Rockwellian version of America, you know, all of that 1950s, everyone's really happy. There was always an undercurrent of art that was countering that to try to expose the fallacy

of that point of view. And so it's so smart to use a song from that time that is absolutely about confronting that. And you see that in cinema for the 1950s as well. So I think it's smart to go back in time to grab something like that to use this film. Also, a series, also because it's, you know, time specific in using that song. Well, it's also the amount of stuff that's going on in the animated, that it's all relevant. It's very similar, strangely enough, to Demon Slayer.

Like, if you watch Demon Slayer opening credits basically shows you everything that's going to happen within the season, but doesn't in a way where it doesn't spoil anything, you're like, oh, that's cool. This is doing the same thing. Yep. And there was episode three, which I, I like, did you watch it? Not yet. I'm watching this afternoon.

I liked three. It was my daughter's least favorite. But I like that. I thought it tied in a lot of things. But I'll tell you one thing I didn't like. It was the first one, Mochetti hasn't directed. I'll tell you what I didn't like. There's two overuses of bad CGI in it.

Oh, okay. And it ripped me out of it. And it didn't need it because the show has not needed bad CGI to have scares and creepy. I think it's done it on its own. and there's two particular moments that are just, I'm watching, like, whoa, and then this thing happens. Like, that's so, that almost looks like Scorpion King. It's so bad.

And I was like, oh, I'm like, I was in the moment. And I'm like, eh. And then by the end, they do it again. And I'm like, you don't need that. I'm like, the moment you need, but you could do it in a way that you've been shooting something. But Mushietti had been shooting in the first two episodes that you didn't need it. But, yeah, it was a very, it was, yeah, the bike scene is definitely one of them in the

very beginning, like in the, in the woods, something happens. And I'm like, because they're doing something in the woods. It's so creepy. And you're like, oh, that's creepy. And then there's a thing you're like, that just looks like a big computer thing running after. I'm like, I don't believe that that is happening at all. And I want to because I'm so locked into the moment.

Right. But that's it. I'm just saying, you don't need CGI. Note that this show is good. It's a very good show. Yeah. You just don't need it. Well, she has it.

Though, right? Remember it? I mean, he used it so well. But he didn't direct this. He didn't direct this. Oh, I know. But he's the, you know. He's the EP.

Yeah. They're going to prove this stuff. But yeah, I mean, I wonder if, like, seeing the first two episodes, you go, well, maybe he should come do Brave and the Bold. But there were still criticisms about that demon baby in the first episode. And then you go with the CGI. And then you go into the CGI in this episode. You wonder, oh, well, that instincts of, those instincts of his are still there to indulge in CGI.

I just like where they were at the end of flat or in the flash so like I wonder how if you walk away from this series when it's all over going you know what mushii should do brave and bold or go yeah I get it why they moved on for it which is what I'll tell you so far I'm in the in the former yeah I know so far we're only three episodes then because I because of what he's doing with character um character drum is awesome in this show and a story I care young girl who's the lead is so good man she's so good she's so good she's so good she's so good she's so good she's so good And I just think that the story is really locked in. They do that. But like I said, maybe it is a thing because he did do it in Flash. Like, stay away from that stupid CGI shit. You don't need it. You don't need it. It costs too much money and you don't need it.

Yeah. If you're going to spend that much money and still looks cheesy or bad, it looks so bad. And you're making your time, big time. You'll know exactly what I'm talking about when you watch it. You're watching it today? Yeah, yeah. Like when we're done. There's two moments and it'll just suck you right out of it.

And I was like, oh, damn it. I was so in it. I was so in it. And I was in it for the rest. It's like, right when it starts, I'm like, okay. And then it happens like, uh, and then he just, well, don't worry about that. Watch the story. I'm like, okay.

And then I'm watching the story. And then by the time you get to the end, you're like, no, stop that. This is, what is this? It's like a bad version of Raiders of the Lost Ark. Get out of here. We're not back in 1981. Stop that. But I, but I really like what they're doing.

So, right. Anyway, so that's, that's what I did over the weekend. That's pretty much, we did some other stuff. We did some other stuff that we would drive out yesterday. I had a, it was raining, but we had some, we just had some stuff. What am I? Oh my God. It was so funny.

It's like, we did a really nice town in, you know, in Long Island. We're driving. My daughter, my little one out of nowhere, goes, this place is a dump. And my wife, I'm so laughing. Like, what are you talking about? It's like a really nice place. And she goes, it's a dump. I don't like it.

And then we walk into this place and we sit down and she's like, food's good. I like it. I'm a judgmental for any eight-year-old. She's like, this place is a dump. Yeah. It's a good balance you've got there with those, too. They couldn't be more opposite to two of them. I got the little one putting on lipstick, walking around with whatever the hell she's doing.

And then I got, and I have, then the other one who's wearing my chemical romance shirts and wants to watch, welcome to dairy with me. So I tell you the Jurassic Park, the Jurassic Park story where my little one was watching with her, she loves animals. Don't mess with animals, right? And so we're watching the Jurassic Park and then they lower the goat for the raptors. Oh, yeah. And she's like, does anything happen to the goat? Or whatever it was. And one's a goat once she.

I can't remember whatever the stupid thing is in the beginning of the raptors. And I go, and at first I go, no, because I remember that they lowered the thing for the T-Rex later. Right. Then I realized, oh, no. Well, actually, yeah, they eat it for lunch. And she starts crying hysterically. like like her she cried more about that damn thing than she did when her when her pet uh fish died wow like and and i was like yeah it was it was it was a thing so they're both very different

don't show her food incorporated she'll never eat meat again i don't know maybe it should show her that save some money on some food um anyway you just think about it welcome to dairy you liking what they're putting out there so far you've been digging it um my daughter had mentioned a couple things that was i thought was interesting also And that is that, you know, if this is successful, they're probably going to jump back into another prequel series, which they definitely could do because of the every 27 years thing. But the thing that, and she also had a theory about one of the kids,

which I thought was interesting too. But anyway, I wonder what you guys think about this show, what you like about or what you don't put your thoughts in it. I'll tell you what, people like predator. People like predator. Badlands, it did it. it did it had a record franchise it broke the record um for predator franchise and here's what it is the numbers are still coming in and we'll get to those actual numbers in just a moment but um 40 million

domestic opening weekend that's a domestic debut for predator franchise new estimate is enough to push it over the line at 38.2 debut over aliens versus predator the film saw a drop just 10% of business between the 15.6 opening day and the previews followed by 14 million on Saturday something that really seen at the box office for a tent pole since the conjuring last rites and demon slayer Infinity Castle, both back in September. Part of it is the under 17 crowd, which was tiny on Friday, that essentially doubled on Saturday's word of mouth spread. Overseas, the film has pulled an additional 40 million for a global kickoff of 80 million, the biggest worldwide opening for a predator film to date. The results come as producer Fred Rosemblatt revealed last week that the

original predator star, Arnold, has met multiple times with Dan Tratchberg telling deadline. Arnold and Dan I've met a couple of times now. He's a real fan of what we've done so far from what I understand. Here's the deal. I had met with him. I said, listen, I enjoy prey. What you did here, the people that shoot the arrows and they said, stop that.

Then he did the fighting, and he wouldn't go after the one. She said, ah, I'll get the doggy. And the dog would come in, and he's running around. And he could not get the, they cannot kill the dog. You cannot. But the other, the bear, the kid of the bear. the kid of bear is fine.

Now they get to the new one. And then there's a little thing there. What is it? Is it good? Is it bad? Is it grog? Who knows? And then there one girl. She is there. But she's not really a girl. She has a machine. She's not the Terminator. But she's the machine. And she's ripped in half and he holds her. And she tells him things. And he says, he's got the heart. He's now. He says, has a heart. We root for the predator.

But they cannot do that if I come back. And if I come back, I have to be, ha, who are you? and he's to say I am I am uh he doesn't see anything because he's the predator yeah yeah yeah and he'll be fight that is it that'll be the next one yeah perfect I'm up two minds on this well anyway go go go go go tell me I'm up two minds on this one I love Arnold and I love that he'd want to come back and do Dutch in a predator series because it's been really interesting that he is the one person who has not come back to this franchise right ish right doesn't he didn't come back in the animated one? Oh, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. There was a picture of him near the end.

Right, right. With Terminator, he was in all these damn Terminator movies. Most of them, right, right. Right, and so it's like, he's no problem coming back to that one. But Predator, he's been more hesitant to come back. And that to me tells me that he felt like Terminator was a little bit more resonant than Predators. It was worth of him to come back multiple times, Terminator franchise. I think what Dan Tractenberg is doing is elevating this franchise. And I don't, and you guys know how I feel about Predator. I think it's a glorified B-Mum. movie and I don't know that bringing Arnold back is really what this franchise needs. Do we need a nostalgia grab to satisfy a bunch of 50 year olds who loved watching him back in the fucking 80s when they were teenagers? I don't know. I don't think that that's the way to go. Maybe a cameo,

but then again, you've got to direct Arnold so he isn't as cheesy as he was in Predators. So that'll be the concern I have. But they're doing so well without him. I don't see the and bringing him back and maybe lowering the quality of the of the project to make it seem a little more B movie like. And so that's my concern. We don't need to have him back. I'd love to see him back, but I don't think that they need it, you know. I think you're a lunatic.

Of course, you do. But I do understand what you're saying. But I don't disagree with you that they don't need him. They don't need him in order for it to be successful. I agree with you there. The predator tells the predator. It's not. Well, no, no, no.

I don't agree with that. I don't agree that it's the predator that sells it because I don't, because I think that Shane Black will tell you that's not the truth. You know, there's a lot of movies that have tried to do that and have not had it because they sucked. These movies are good, but that's what I'm saying is that it's not just the predator that sells it. It's Trachenberg right now that's selling it.

He's, I would say the combo, but yes, sure, I mean, you've got to have a, I mean, if you have the product and it's like, okay, look, right, here's Shane Black,

who didn't know what to do with it, shockingly enough, because he knew. But here's a guy that does know what to do with it. And he loves it. And I was talking to Ellis about it who interviewed him. And the guy, he just said, this guy just breathes and bleeds this stuff. He loves Predator. Yeah. So because of that is why I disagree with you, because if he, look, if he's forced to put Arnold in it,

then I agree with you. Yeah. If it's like, if he's forced and it's like, we got to put him in it. If he's like, I don't have a take. But if he's got to take and he knows how to do it, then I trust signing me up. Yeah, I agree. Agree with that. I'll agree with you on that. If Trackerberg has a take because he's shown over these last three films that these are damn

good approaches to predator, he's got a take to make Dutch work, then I'm in. I'm a thousand percent in and let's see what he could do. But, you know, I just don't think that they need him because this last predator, which we're going to get to, broke all kinds of box offers records for the Predator franchise. Yeah, I don't think you, like,

again, I agree with you. You don't need him, but you're going to, really juice it up again if you can get them back especially when you're doing these kind of cool jumps right you do this jump from like whatever was at the late 1700s when when prey was and then you've got whatever the hell planet or whatever this is taking place in badlands and then you go back and if it's just Arnold again running around you know you get a team around him you know because he's 75 years old or whatever he's 70 years old so I want to see what his take is because he to me, Trajanburg is the guy,

and this is where he is now proven the same thing that the Coburkeyes did, the Cobur guy guys did. Most things are not, they're never truly dead. It just depends on who is running it and who can rejuvenate, right? Because no one thought Karate Kid could come back.

It did. I think Terminator needs this. I think Star Wars needs this. I think that there's, there are certain franchises that need that guy. And Masters of the Universe could have that with Travis Knight. We don't know yet. We've got to see it.

But that's what this guy does. So if he's got, if he's been meeting with Arnold and they come up with something together and they can make it kind of gritty and cool, I don't want to see what they did Beverly Hills cop happened to. It just did not feel like the same movie. It was fine the last one.

It was entertaining. Sure. But it's such a different movie in tone of what Martin arrested in the first one right right yeah so it's got to be because i mean if you watch part of it or the original one yeah as i said there are cheesy moment but there are also some pretty badass moments from arnold where he gets into the like the harder edges of himself and so i don't ever i don't see anything cheesy there but we've also disagreed with that over you don't take two arms in close up as their biceps flex is not fucking cheesy it's a product of

the 80s it's a product of the 80s yes that that that that's amazing blood but it's amazing in first blood but it's amazing Dylan come on I don't have time to bleed come on great great line I'm not saying these are time to duck I'm not saying they're not fun movies my point is that they are cheesy and it's fun to be cheesy

I don't have a problem with cheesy I love those movies but like I don't think they're high art and I think Tractenberg is trying to elevate this franchise into art you can be mad at me all you want but Prey was exceptional. Killer of killers was a fantastic. I still haven't watched Killers or Killers. I got to watch. Talk about time jumps, Christian. And then Part of our Badlands here, I thought was exceptional,

exceptional. Yeah. Well, so either way, it did very, very well in general. So let's look at the actual numbers of the box office for what just happened all week, all weekend, rather. Right. you'll see that Predator Badlands did indeed what Dark Redden said, did $40 million.

And what did it cost to make, John? I think it was $100, $120? Let me look up. All right. Well, I made 80 so far. Yeah. Made it 80 so far. And now what kind of, I don't think it's going to have much of a drop off.

We'll talk about it, but I don't think running man's going to do very well. There is a feeling. If even, I'll say this, if even, Greg and Coy didn't come out of that movie super excited for it, which I saw their out of the reaction. They liked it, but they didn't love it. That to me is like a danger sign. I saw it too.

It didn't seem like they liked it at all, to be honest. Okay, fair, because Corey tries to like everything. And so the fact that he couldn't even find, like, the real thing to love about it makes me a little concerned. By the way, the box office, oh, sorry, the budget was 105 for a part of it or badly. 105. Not too shabby to start out to get at 80. Yeah. Yeah, not bad at 80 at all.

So you've got that one now, Predator Badlands, number one at 40, and then the rest, everybody else just ate it. Yeah. Eighth. Well, I shouldn't say 80. Black Phone 2 already just adding another 5.3. It's already out on digital. I mean, 120 million.

So that movie did okay, but it's just, you know, it's at the end of its run. Sarah's oil, I don't even know what that is. Regretting you, though, I think at 7 million, million for 70 million i i think that's a hit right right for the because it's the what's her face who did the it ends with us it's calling hoover right and so you know there is a market for her stuff and i'm all a fan i was such a massive fan of mckenna grace so any hit that she can be a part of or any good box office success you can be a part of i'm in support of because i want her to do

well in the business i get her confused well you know only because um because i didn't even realize until yesterday that she was the same girl from Ghostbusters. Yeah. Because she looks so radically different now with the one here. She knows herself down in Ghostbusters. I get her confused with Anna Sophia Rob. Oh, yeah. And they're, but they're so, I think Anna Sophia Robb's like 15 years older or something.

Right. Whatever it is. But for some reason, I get them confused. So when I went to see that, I was like, oh, yeah, she's very good. She's a very, like, she's really good. But she's so regretting. And I didn't, the movie is a soap opera and it's not a great movie, but I'm not, I'm going to, I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I'm not going to,

I'm not going to lie to you and tell you that I, that I didn't enjoy it. It's not good. It's not good. It was, yeah, the reviews have not been great for it. But you've got like Dave Franco, Mason Thames, Allison Williams. It's a soap opera, dude. It's a soap opera. That's what, Colin Hoover writes. Right.

But like, what is it at box? Because it was made for 30. What's a hit? It's already like seven, it's already at, like, 70 million or something. 70 million. So it's, well, hit. But it's not, it's going to, it's going to win it making money. Yeah, it's going to wind up making.

But this kind of movie. And McKenna's not a, yeah, not yet, well-known lead yet. Not yet. It's, yeah, and the other kid, the Mason Thameskids, he's got two, he's got two. He's, he's going to be a big star. Predator Bailin is regretting you, Black Phone to Sarasville, Nuremberg. Do you see it? That is on the app.

Yeah. I'm, dude, I am spending this entire week watching all of these movies. Yeah. I just started a letterbox to. count. So I can put stuff on there in my reviews. But anyway, go ahead. I like, I didn't mind never. It's, it's fine. But number 11,

Christy. Oh, we both really enjoyed Christy. I liked the movie with flaws, but I liked the movie, yes. And we both agree that she should be nominated regardless. Now, there's going to be considered. You consider, there's going to be some problems.

Because, oh, this. No, no, no. What I'm saying here is that we're not in an era anymore where a lot of these Oscar movies, these Oscar Bate movies that come out are doing well at the box office. One battle after another, even though it made good money, it's still going to lose money because it costs $170 million to make. But a lot of people saw it in the theater. So that's one thing. Sinners is another one that will be nominated that did well in the box office, but all these other like Borgonia and all that. And then these movies are going to do well in the theater.

smashing machine which was touted as the Rock's big kind of coming out party as a dramatic role that he can get nominated for it ate it the Julia Roberts movie ate it this movie ate it people aren't going to see it like and I kind of and I wish it was Tuesday because I would hop on Mike a little bit here too because Mike was making it a political thing on Twitter again

and I think that that's silly to where he's people were going out to support her everybody wanted it or the American Eagles. There's people on both sides that don't support their actors and actress that they're not interested in a movie. It's just the way it works. This movie was not marketed at all, at all. And it's not a movie these days that people are rushing out to see in the theater.

It's a movie you're going to catch on Netflix or Amazon or whatever it is. That's where you're going to see it. Yeah. Yeah. She's not a box office draw. She's not. I don't care when three flops in a row. She's not a box office.

draw. I know that a lot of people want to sleep with her or they think she's good or whatever, like whatever your reasons are. And I don't know who these people are that are supporting her that are actually watching. It's just interesting to me with so many levels. But like, she's not a draw because people aren't coming out to see her movies.

They just aren't. And we're not in the age of the movie star anymore, so I get that. I do think there is some credibility to what Mike is saying, but not full credibility. Because I think as I said, my tweet, the marketing of the movie was not great.

Black Bear did not do a good job marketing this film. And this is the problem you run into when you're a small time operation and you don't sell it to neon or A24 or these other places. Now, it doesn't mean that those companies will necessarily market it better or get it out there more, but you have a better chance of it being marketed better. And even Adam Hlabeck responded to my tweet, who's aware of all this stuff and said, I didn't even know it was out this weekend. And Adam watches everything.

That puts it on the table there that a lot of people didn't know about it. It was not marketed while. And I think you said this in your tweet and I agree with you. It's like, look, Christy Martin is a legend in the sport. But she's not well known. Yeah. I mean, to me and you, she is. Yeah.

If you're a combat, if you're a combat fight fan and you're in a certain age range, and of course you know who she is. Right. But she hasn't, she's getting more publicity and rightfully so now. Right, right. I'll be honest with you, dude. I'll be honest with you. I knew Christy Martin and watched all the stuff that she, that, that, that, that, from

the early times, I remember that Tyson Bruno thing. Yeah. And I hate to say this. I didn't even know what happened to her until they were promoting this movie. Right, right. I didn't even know. I had known because I'd saw the untold doc on Netflix. Okay.

But I didn't know until then. Right. You know what I was saying? For years, I didn't know until last year when I watched. Right. If that happens to somebody and, you know, to certain sports figures. today and it does it's similar though it is very similar to the stardom of like mark cur right mark her is one of the first big UFC guys but their whole point of that is this was one of the

legends and he's not talked about today right same thing with her she she was the first major female sports uh combat sports superstar yep you know i think leila lee is probably the best she became the most famously but or the best i still think she's the best ever and she was just significantly just kind of taller and just so just stronger right she was she was great um but the way was paid by christie martin yes 100 so i think it's an important story to tell to be honest and i thought and i've said this sidney sweeney i had of course was aware because of all the controversy you know the things and i saw madam webb and i didn't get it and it was like who why is she even like who's saying she can act and then i saw this movie i will never say that ever again

she's phenomenal she's phenomenal in this movie but it's not a movie. You're like, oh, what am I going to go see this weekend? You know what? Five for Christy, please. Yeah, yeah. Give me the popcorn. I'm ready. I'm ready. No, you're not. No one's going to see this in theater. This is not a theater movie. We can do nuance, right? And nuance is what we can do on the show. Not necessarily on social media, but we can do nuance on the show. And that is multiple things can exist at the same time. One, this is not a story that a lot of people who have all of a sudden politically got behind Sydney, Sweden, are going to go see. They're not going to see. They're not going to see a film about a female boxer who's a lesbian gets into a relationship with a man

who abuses her so badly that she leaves that relationship because she's she wants to embrace who she really is, which is a lesbian. And then marries a woman. There's not a lot of political people who are supporting her now who will go see a movie like that, or even see euphoria, which is about exploring the sexuality and all the stuff that happens with people that age. So there are projects that she's picking that aren't necessarily leading to a great result. It doesn't mean she's not a good actress, right? And so to me, watching her in even reality, the HBO thing they did on reality winner, she was damn good in that. So it's interesting the instincts that she has to go towards more artistic fair as an actress, Madam Webb aside, considering where she's at in these interviews

and the comments that she makes. So she's a complex person. And I don't think she's above being called out, but I also think you have to respect her ability as an actress. And I do. And certainly I can, I can say, I hate her answers in her interviews and I think she's lying to us, but I can also say that she's damn good in the work that she performs, but she needs to find a better team to pick better projects, Christian. I don't know, though. But these other projects have flopped. Let's see.

Let's see two things. One, let's see if she winds up getting a nomination for this movie before we say that about her team. I really doubt it, but you could be right, but let's see. two, which also we're probably going to have the same answer for this. There's a movie that's coming out with her, Brendan Scler, coming out in the end of December.

It's like a hand that rocks a cradle type. A housemate. Right. Let's see how that does. I think we both think it's not going to do great. But movies like that sometimes shock you. Especially in December. Yeah, bigger budget movie. Who knows?

But either way, because I still don't think it's a bad call that they had her do this movie because I think it I think it showed a shine in her that that I didn't know was there beforehand and I think that now you can make the argument of why like you said why don't you sell it somewhere why are you putting this out in theaters why don't you just sell it to a streamer maybe maybe the or Toregillia limited release in the theater I don't know but either way now that also goes to a conversation I brought up in the intro and you and I've had this discussion and you just mentioned to movie story we've said many times

or we've been saying this for last 10 or 15 years, the movie star does not sell tickets anymore. The movie star, no, the movie star can elevate your project. Yes. And I use Starfighter as that example, right? Like Starfighter is,

like Star Wars sells the product, but you get, okay, well, what, who's in it? Well, Ryan Gosling's in it. That helps sell the product. You're not saying, Ryan Gosling, what's the next Ryan Gosling movie?

You can see that Ryan Gosling's, the fall guy that thought was pretty good. Didn't they ate shit. So there's people who, who have star power, but the movie star doesn't sell thing. Now, the question is who, and not just that. I had this conversation with Roxy, right? Where it's not talent.

Because I think Glenn Powell is very talented. Yes. And I thought he was amazing in, um, in, uh, top gun. I think that he's, he's going a lot of these movies that he's in. And, and I, and from what I hear is that Chad Power show is good too, right? Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, but they're, but they're doing that thing that they do. Hey, that's the guy. This is your next movie star.

He's your next movie star. This is your movie star. You hear everybody? your movie start and you're like oh let's see how running man does and from what we're hearing he'll look like it's doing that good yeah it's fascinating yeah tom cruise at the premiere that that always tells me we really need to elevate the the the visibility yeah the visibility of this movie you invite tom cruise to the premiere yeah um but yes the reviews some of a lot of the reviews have been positive about the action and about the it's a pulse you know pounding thrill ride, whatever. Like the story itself, a lot of people, a lot of the reviews have been saying,

including as I mentioned, Greg and Goy, like there is a conflicting thing where they're trying to make a commentary about our politics and what's going on in our world with let's also make it fun and dazzle you and all this kind of stuff. And so it's slamming together these tones and it might not work overall as a movie. So you've seen it tonight? Tonight. Yeah, tonight. Yeah, tonight. Me too. We'll see. We'll see. Well, anyway, but I want to like it. Well, Sydney, also could be part of that, right? Like where I think she is absolutely talented. I think she is,

it should get the cloud for being a real legitimate actress. She's, she's awesome. She really is. And I wasn't saying that two weeks ago, because I didn't really have any game tape. And now I do. Yeah.

But there is this kind of thing of it. She's your next star. She's your next big movie star. And you said it. There's really, people aren't lining up to see the movies. Now, that doesn't mean you don't put her in a big blockbuster action,

a Marvel, a DC, whatever it might be, that is the same kind of conversation where like, oh, you could, oh, look, she's in that. And the Star Power kind of elevates it a little bit. I'll tell you right now, I don't know if James Gunn watches this show. And maybe James Gunn's already had this video. But, I mean, don't doubt it because he watches, you know, channels with 10,000 subscribers, so you just never know.

But, like, if he's looking to do Power Girl in the DC, universe. Sydney Sweeney is your choice for Power Girl for all the reasons that Power Girl is popular. One, you want someone who can really act. Two, you want someone who's attractive and sexy and got a, you know, a noticeable rack, which Power Girl does. And you want someone that's going to, you know, kind of radiate this strength and power. And so to me, if I'm James Gunn and I'm looking to maybe explore the possibility of Power Girl, I'm starting to have conversation. with Sidney Sweeney and see if that's a possibility down the road. And on the other side, Marvel, if you're getting rid of Brie Larson and a Sydney Sweeney,

Captain Marvel is an interesting idea to bring her in. You cut her hair down like Carol Dambers and you explore the possibility of her coming in to be to replace Brie Larson down the road. So no, whatever it might be. She should do something big. She should do something next. Like she's done, she's trying to done enough of the smaller ways. Straight away from Star Wars.

Stay away from store. Everybody should say with a source. Anyway, so what do you guys make of that? Do you, all the box office, everything we talked about, we had kind of lengthy conversation on it. So put your thoughts in there. Let us know what you think. So you're going to hear me talk about it.

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Deals. So, yeah, John, I'm telling you, like, I go, I just saw someone who just wrote, I love slippers, wrote, I need earbuds that stay in my ear. Yeah, it's singly because they start to fall out. Yeah, that was, that was the things. I usually what I used to have is, and I still have them, but like the big, the bigger ones that the noise cancellation ones and, and I had those. And, but walking around with them, it's just not, it's, it's like, don't, don't, you know.

And I was that, I felt the same way that he did. I'm like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to, I'm not. going to, uh, these things are to pop out of my ears all the time. I hate them. These, they're, they're great. I am and I lose stuff all the time. I treat these like they're one of my kids. I'm, I'm, I never. I have, I got the case. I got everything. I'm so well, I love them. I really do love them. It's one of my, my most favorite possessions that I have. So I hope people, uh, uh, check them out. They're links for the description. Um, all right. So we've got now 19 questions. Oh, wow. And so, So we got to try to hit, you got to try to hit a Hyundai, John.

Let's see if you can get to a Hyundai. We did, I don't have any special things to say, but I don't know if you, I'm sure you noticed, but last week when we did our Marvel scoop, that those things went everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I should have spread them out throughout the week. A ton of them.

But anyway, so, well, you're, I was curious, though. Do your sources, did you follow up with any of the stuff that I talked about? Did you confirm or deny any of that stuff? Be specific, which one, which one? Oh, I don't know. It doesn't matter. Who cares? I keep hearing about the doom variant stuff.

And so I keep hearing in the wind that we're going to get multiple dooms. Okay. And not necessarily RDJ playing the multiple dooms. Interesting. So that could be interesting if that's true that we're going to get multiple of Dooms different actors and different. characters in different timelines playing the different doctor dooms so that could be fascinating that's interesting okay it's true yeah um so we're gonna see what happens there and um

right now again john's got 20 questions we're trying to get to a hondo here today you know i do the other thing that we mentioned those movies that i saw you know what i did finally see is warfare oh yeah and it's good it's really good it's solid i mean you could tell that it was made by these these guys i mean it's not a and and i don't have an issue with this. It's not like a real big conducive story. It's not. It's just, this is what I felt like this was just a real event that happened

that they were saying, hey, we're going to basically show you exactly what went down when we were there. And so Noah Santoneo is in it and people go so, what do you think now? Do you think he's rambo? Like he got I think does he say three things? Yeah, I know. He's not really, he's not the lead. I think the kid from what's the movie with Natalie Portman and and oh god Julianne Moore that came out recently like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he was the kid in that

was was really good um trying to think who who really stood out for Hoffman I thought was good the guy from the kid from Long Walk wait he was the guy on the on the no not Cooper was it no no that was um that was Gandal Feeney's kid so I was going to say that Cooper I guess it was too yeah yeah yeah yeah no Michael Gennifini was good for sure um Campbell was good. Yes. And then, and I always like Will Poulter. Yeah, I like Polter was good too. I think Tim Will Poulter shows up. I feel like, I feel like calm. I don't know why. I like Will Poulter a lot. Even when he's in bad stuff or something some bad movie with Daisy Edgar Jones. I was like, oh, Will Poulter's in. I like,

he's got the kind of Gossling thing. Because when he first started, you know, Gosling played the nerdy kid and remember the type. He played him. We're the manly guys now. Yeah, yeah. Because he was playing the nerdy kid and we're the Miller's. And now you see him now. You're like, Holy God. I remember from Narnia, dude. I remember him from Narnia. I'm a big, I'm a big polter fan. I like seeing him and more stuff. Even though I didn't love him in Guardians 3, but it wasn't his fault. I thought Joseph Quinn was good. I thought hard. And I say that. I said Campbell. Who's Campbell? Joseph Quinn. That's what I meant. Who's Campbell?

You meant Joseph Campbell, the power of myth. That's what you. Who are that? Right. Joseph Camble. Yeah, they brought him back via AI. Joseph Campbell. I'm, I'm, dude, I would, I would lose, I would lose to everyone. the Smodown these days. I remember you and me both. I remember when Matt Achidy told me that he's just like, I was just like, I was just like at me. He said to me, you know, this is very much like a sport because when you get older, he's like the one thing like, you know, an athlete, an athlete there, you know, if they're playing, their arm goes out. It's like in this game, in you're older, your mind is not as sharp as it was. And so I, it's hard for me to place names and other things now too all the time.

Trying to do that in 15 seconds of what it was. Like, no, thank you very little. Yeah, I don't want a Hall of Fame match until everybody turns 55. I don't want to holiday match until everything. A lot of money before that happens. I'll tell you that. Nothing to do with it. If I won the lottery, I'll tell you right now, I will set it up if I win the lottery. If you win the lottery, you can have it.

I'll give you for a discount. 10 million. So, there's, we were talking about Noah, sentenio. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, by the way, those ads. I wanted to say, oh, if you notice, it was kind of like wind and stuff.

Yeah, I was wondering. I didn't want to say. Because I came in here and I left. I don't know what I left in here over the weekend in the garbage, but it was the worst smell ever. It was terrible. I thought it was much better now, but I had to open the window. It was horrendous. Yeah.

And I didn't know what was worse. The smell from that garbage can or the fact that this new story was sent to me. And this story, I hate it. Okay. I hate this story so much. This just shows, no essence of what the hell this thing is. Rambo prequel aims for a lighter tone.

Why make Rambo? Get ready for a kinder, gentler Rambo for the upcoming prequel. Who takes a puppy with him the whole entire time. Filmmaker Jamari Halander is helming the project that will start no sense, Neo in the title role which serves as a prequel to the five Sloan-led movies. So it is a prequel to the movies, which makes no sense then. previous films were all violent affairs but have had widely different tones. They began with the almost melancholy and haunting first blood,

slipping into high action, Ra Ra, Ra, Patriism, militarism for the second and third film and turned into a quiet, dark drama in the fourth and fifth. In a recent interview with Dexero, Helander says the series is taking a different, more adventurous and lighter approach. Adventurous in Vietnam, approach to previous films as explored Rainbow's early years during the Vietnam War. Is this jungle cruise in Vietnam? He says it won't be as dark as the last two rainbows in Vietnam.

It's going to be a little bit more adventurous and I hope to inspire a new generation of 10-year-olds from Vietnam to go into the forest and play rainbow. Let's see how that Eleanor confirmed last month that the hard prep was underway to the project with the director traveling to Bangkok ahead of filming commencing in January. John, what is this movie? What is this movie? So let me, again, we did nuance with Sydney, Swinis. Let's do a little nuance here. I get your point. Vietnam, of course, is not the place you would necessarily think lighter.

Adventure is fair, right? Exactly. But we do know that John Rambo had a crew of guys that he served with. Sure. And the first movie opens with him finding out one of them died from Agent Orange. Right. And then he's really, and he's really, and he's really. and he's really distraught about it.

Of course. And it breaks down at the end, talking about all the guys and things. So I think there is a way to show how war and the concept of war destroy John Rambo. If you're trying to go and see this film and think they're going to do Rambo part two, I think you're in the wrong heads.

Sure. I think what they're going to do is show you what this guy was before war happened to him. And that could be an interesting explanation. And then when he gets to Vietnam, I don't know. I agree with you. The pitch that you just started to say, though, you found yourself going, wait a minute.

I don't know how you do that with me because even the director is the guy who directed Sisu and is known for brutal revenge kills. What are we talking about? It's a confusing thing to say. So confusing. Now, there's one thing, which I don't disagree with. Rambo, when we first, if we first meet him when he's going over there and you see him and he's, like you said, when he first shows up in. first blood he's he's still kind of like his bond was with his brothers

and everything too but he had already and gone through the shit he was a POW he was tortured right you know like all that stuff like he'd he gone through that so you remember he's getting if this is a prequel of the movies he's tied up and the guy takes a knife and puts it across his chest right so

you can't go adventurous you know Stephen Somers with that so you got like now I can see him being lighter when he first gets there. If they would have said, well, listen, it's going to start with him being a more like, or optimistic,

friendly guy who turns into that guy that we know. That makes sense. And maybe that's still the case. But an adventurous tone in Vietnam, are we getting a PG-13 Rambo? No, thank you. People forget that the Rambo franchise is built on

actually exploring how the government screwed over Vietnam veterans and how the idea of war is not as glorified as you think. He's not that speech. Come back and going to go, baby, God. He was right. Exactly. All of them. In the first one, the second and the third one, you can look at what he explores. Now,

and fourth and fifth one is a whole other ballgame, but like the first three are about that. So I'm confused by the commentary here because I hope they're not going to go with like pro America, pro war type of stance, because that is not the foundation of Rambo. It is. absolutely about a commentary on how war can destroy human beings. Well, the second one was kind of a comment on it. Yeah, but even then at the end, he's like, it's the government who's fucking him over, right?

And so when he's over the name here, you know, he's saying, bring the guys back because you, you set me on a And Murdoch, I'm coming for you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's all scared. My question though, Christian, is who are they going to get for Troutman? Look, Rambo is tough. Sure. But Troutman, I think, is equally tough.

to cast and who are you going to get that's going to Russell Crow. Russell Crow will be great. He's going to have to lose 150 pounds. I don't think that Russell's going to do it. Oh, yeah. But I like to see it. Yeah, I don't disagree.

Crow would be done. I told you that story, right? The Dagnino. Yeah, yeah. Look, it's Russell Crow. Silence. Anyway. So, yeah, I think this, and this is very similar

we were talking about with Sidney Sweeney, I don't really have enough game tape on Noah to, I'll tell you, the kid that is playing Stallone in this, in this Rocky thing, which just like him. Yeah. Looks just like him. But again, what do you think about this, Chris? Stallone is being iced out of all of these things, man. How is he not suing every studio and every producer? This is Irwin Winkler just basically doing this every place that he can to Stallone because he knows that he's got him by the balls because he owns the property.

It's so messed up, man. he's got him by the ball so um but you know the fact that he's now even doing a movie about stalone and stlon has nothing to do with it is is pretty it's pretty baller but it's also pretty scumbag. It is kind of scumbag. So again and he's not and and stolen has nothing to do with this one. Oh. The expendables. Right. Stallone's flare. Stallone's flare was what made these movies a thing. I just haven't seen that from Noah since then you know I I, I, Rambo was look like I said, I've said this to blue in the face. The book, the 19, 1972 book by Dave Morrell is incredible.

It's one of the best, but it's such a, it's a, but it's a different. It's, it's completely different from what the movie is. They turned basically what this director is saying, right? They turned that book. Yeah. Into a more star driven. We're talking about 1982 when Stallone was coming off of Rocky 3 or was in the midst of putting Rocky 3 out, whenever it was. These guy was, he was one of the biggest movie stars out there.

Yeah. So they had to. in the book, he dies. They had shot an ending where he dies. And no one wants to see Stallone die. So they turned it into this franchise of this kind of guy running around the place. And that's the movie that they're making now, you know? So I don't know.

We got to see where all this goes or what, because Stallone was the heart and essence of all these things. I don't know if this kid has it at all. And with this tone, it doesn't get me excited about it. So yeah. Anyway, what are you? Oh, sorry, John. What are you saying?

They're not making it for us. They're making it for the younger generation, and maybe that'll work. Who knows? Well, that's a question, right? Do the young, does the, they even care? Do they even care? And if they do, are they going to see this in the theater? Right.

It's like, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's going to be interesting. Put your thoughts in there. What do you guys make of this? Do you think that this is a smart move to go more of the adventure side of it? Don't get too dark. And do you think it knows the right guy?

I could definitely be proven wrong. Put your thoughts in it. Let me know. All right. Um, there's more. Okay. There's more. And this is what this.

It's like there's two stories in Star Wars that continue to come up. And people have answers to it all the time and the answers are always wrong. Um, and then one is always is Kathleen Kennedy leaving and nobody really knows. Um, everybody says, hey, she'll leave in the end of next year. And that's been happening for the last 10 years. Uh, the other one is that Ryan Johnson doing a Star Wars trilogy. Um, and so there's some. And the guy's asked, and I feel bad for him because he's continuously asked about it.

Yeah. Everything that he does, no matter what Knives Out project, someone's always asking about the Star Wars trilogy. And he probably just has like a standard answer that he gives. But with Star Wars finally getting back to cinemas with the Mandalorian and Grogo. Star Wars Starfighter and the 50th anniversary re-released the original. I didn't know that. That's cool. That's coming out in 2027.

I'll go see that in the theater. It begs a question. Will people finally shut up about the Star Wars? Last Jedi. No. The answer is almost certainly not. Brian Johnson's film will likely always remain one, if not the most polarizing Star Wars films ever made. It is the most Star Wars, polarizing Star Wars film ever made. There's not that about it. There's no, there's not even a, not even a number one contender. Johnson was linked to write and direct a potential new Star Wars trilogy back in 2017,

but his knives out and poker face commitments kept him away and the project just seemed to fall by the wayside. It's not the only reason, but okay. Johnson is moving on. to other stuff now, but out promoting the third knives out film recently at the Newport Beach Film Festival. Johnson discussed the last Jedi and was asked of the film's response pushed him away from the Star Wars University says, no, not at all. In fact, it's the reason

that I wanted to. I overall experience with putting the movie out and what you're talking about with fan feedback. I mean, first of all, I'm a lifelong Star Wars fan so I know the deal. I know that Star Wars fans are passionate about the stuff. We love the stuff, we love. We hate the stuff we hate, we fight about it. And that's what's been happening since the original trilogy. It's a very good answer, by the way. The reality is Star Wars has

been, has always been something that has meant different things to different people. And I think that's the fun part. And the passion of it is the fans arguing about it respectfully. It's been the most positive experience I've ever had with anything I've made in terms of interacting with people who've seen it. I came out to the other end of it loving Star Wars fandom more than I did even going into it. I don't know if I believe that, but more power to him. Fan reaction range from major praise outright hatred over the creative choices.

And the last film was 1.33 billion earner in the highest grossing film in 2017. and on Metacritic remains the most acclaimed film of the series outside of the original. Okay, so it doesn't really talk about whether or not it's going to happen or not. Yeah. It just kind of says like, no, no, no, I had a fine experience. Yeah, look, I'm so torn on this. Okay.

Because a trilogy, no, I don't think you should do a trilogy at all. What I think he should do is direct an episode of a television show when they do one. He is, he did Breaking Bad, so many Osmondias, which is one, the best episodes of Breaking Bad, maybe ever. He has directed countless. Looper is a fantastic science fiction film.

He's done so many great things. That a way that you're going, I don't want him anywhere near Star Wars, right? But if he does something again and you're like, whoa, that's what I thought he was going to do with Last Jedi. And the people who already loved it are going to go, yeah, he's back. He did another one. Do an episode of television.

Don't do, don't do a movie. and the other thing they wrote the things like oh yeah one of the reasons he didn't do the trilogy is because his knives out thing then how did you make his his doll show that he did and that poker face and all the other and a doll the poker face and the other stuff that he did of course he could have made the movies in between he wouldn't have signed on to it if he couldn't have made the movies in between it was because they all said well let's step back from this for a second and rightfully so but I thought his answers were great. I thought they were,

you say, of course, you're promoting your movie. You know people are going to ask about this all the time, but what do you make of it? This is a great political answer. It's a smart answer. It is. Because he caters to the fans by saying, again, it's a passionate thing.

I've done the same thing. I totally understand what I'm saying. You know, and I totally know what to expect. Whereas other people sometimes in response to these questions get mad and go out to the fans, Ryan very smartly leaned into the fans and said, you know, I'm a fan myself, so I get it. And so that's great. I don't think we're ever going to see him do anything Star Wars related for a very long time, a TV show or not.

I just don't think that's possible. So he has to be asked about it because Kathleen is still in charge. So there's still a 1% dumb and dumber you're telling me there's a chance type of situation here. But eventually it's, you know, once new people take over, I don't think he's ever going to come back. There's just too much of the thing. It's like bringing back Snyder. You're not going to do it. There's too much divisiveness to bring him back to the situation. And besides that, I don't believe him when he says, everyone loved my movie and tells me how much they love the movie. I'm sure a number of people baby said to him, hey man, this isn't the greatest thing. Of course, there are a lot of people

and I know tons of who swear by that movie and love that movie. Vogel is a big fan of it. Right. So people probably have told him that, right, too, but he's also not daft in the fact that he, it caused a lot of shit. And there are people who down, look, that was a movie to me. Like, I've still have never had an experience like that before because I remember seeing it in the theater the first time I saw it. And I didn't tweet about it. People like, uh-oh, all of didn't tweet about it. And I was so confused by it. I'm like, I don't know if I like that movie. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't know. I got to think about this. And then I went and saw it again at the lot, the next. day. And I watched it and I think that like I said it, I think that ultimately where I land on it still was where my head was on. I came out of going, okay, it was, it wasn't bad. It was pretty good. And in my head, it's still what I think about it too. It's a very well-made film. Yeah. It's a very, one of the best made Star Wars films as far as filmmaking goes, you know, minus the canto bite and all that stuff. But for the most part, it's, it's pretty, it's really, really well made. But it is one of those movies, at least for me, that gets so

hard to watch every single time. We're doing a rewatch with Sam. Well, for me, she's never seen him. I'm doing a rewatch for the stories movie. She's seen him for the first time. And I'm dreading watching that movie. Like, every time I see it, I like it less and less and less. It's boring. I don't like the choices that's going on. And it's like it contradicts the first movie that was made. And then it goes absolutely nowhere with the next movie because JJ didn't pay attention to that. So it's a sloppy mess as far as you know where it fits into the story um but people there are other people who absolutely love it yeah it's it's it's and that's why it's a divisive film because the people who love it really love it and think people who don't don't get it which is i think is one of the weakest

weakest uh critics or reviewers reviewers rather you can give to a movie um but the people that don't like it really don't like it i'm in the middle uh because i think the first 30 to 45 are just terrible. And what they did to Boyega was just, it just went back to the beginning. Yeah, well, we got to get him away from Daisy. Let's give him in this relationship out of nowhere.

Let's make him exactly the way he was in the beginning of Force Awakens. Right. He hasn't learned at all. He hasn't learned at all. Hasma confrontation again. Let's make Cantobite, which is one of the most terrible scenes in any Star Wars movie. And then let's waste Benicio,

who's incredible in one battle after another. So it does you know how much of a waste even more. But that stupid stutter and everything too. Yeah. But I think the last. 45 minutes of the movie, from the Holdo maneuver on, I'm really kind of on board with the film and love the, that I think some of the best Star Wars I've ever seen.

So it's a very mixed bag for me when I look at the movie. But I'll never, and I'll tell you, I'll never agree with what he did with Luke because he didn't, he didn't establish it. He didn't lay it out. And it was shocked value to me. Yeah.

And it's not that old men can't, of course, but we haven't seen that. And you didn't show us that in the movie. So you have to show us him becoming embittered through multiple scenes. Totally.

And that's what Mark Hamill said. I agree with what he said. It's like, Mark Hamill knew that character better than anybody. Maybe not better than George Lucas, but he knew that character so well that a guy who just comes in and goes,

and he's like, I think for me, if I'm in that position, if that guy comes to me and says, I fundamentally disagree with this, I don't think he would do that. I listen.

listen, right. I listen because I'm coming in and I'm trying to do something crazy, but the guy who knows this guy and knows everything that he's been doing has been, you know, as I was talking to Lucas about, we can go on and on and on about this. The point is he ain't making no trilogy. And the reason why is because they don't know what the hell they're making now. They still don't know. We still, we know, we know, we know starfighters coming out, right? And then we don't know. What comes next? Nobody knows. Is it, it's, Mangled film is, yeah.

Is it the Ridley film? Maybe, but probably not. Is it the Kinberg trilogy? Maybe, but who knows? Is it the Mangold movie? We don't know. Is it the Tyca movie? Could be.

Is Patty Jenkins actually going to do a movie? No, we don't know. Nobody knows. Nobody knows what's happening. Yeah, I think they don't know what's happened. Because they haven't established a campaign succession thing yet. Once that changes, I think that's when they're going to make announcements and whatever. But until then, we're in this, like,

transition phase right so what do you guys think do you think that this is something that should happen shouldn't happen um put your thoughts in there let us know we're at 30 questions so i'm going to get to one more story before we get into the book what broke trishon harlough what if you can put me on screenrook yeah yeah yeah where are you huh uh well both of us giants head coach brian dable has been fired oh yeah well it was coming to a announced it today just now just just you don't let him finish you don't let him finish the season That's amazing. They're like, no, just get out.

We're done. After they lost a double digital lead in Sunday in Chicago, Adam Schafter reporting that he has been fired. I'll tell you, I would have kept them on until the end of the season. Really? Oh, yeah, let them lose as many games as possible so they get at least, because Miami is one in seven or whatever they are. There's like two other teams that maybe that don't have two wins.

Let them keep losing until the end so we get a really good pick. It's like, keep them on. Keep them on to the end. Let him finish out of check and then bring somebody in next year. He won coach of the year like two or three years ago. That's crazy. Not anymore. He's done.

He's done. All right. All right. All right. Well, that's not anything we're going to put in the clips channel, but still something I needed to know about. Put your thoughts in there about the Star Wars story. Now let's get into this one.

Here's another one. Yeah. Now, Uncharted was, you look, the video game movie is having like a big push now. Video game properties in general. I still think that they, benefit better on as TV shows personally. And I think Uncharted would have absolutely benefited as a TV show more so than a movie. But the first movie, even though it was radically different and the hardcore Uncharted fans

are not really so supportive of it, did very well in the theater for what it was. So will there be a sequel? Well, here is the question. The Uncharted director is unsure of sequel status. And I'll be honest. This makes me hopeful. And I'll tell you why in a second. Okay.

Back in early 2020, just months after Spider-Man No Way Home became the first, truly big post-pandemic box office juggernaut. Tom Holland found himself atop the top of the box office game game series in the film. Nathan Drake is recruited by Sully in a race against corrupt billionaire, Santiago Moncada, and mercenary tracker Joe Braddock. Until I read that just now, I completely forgot any of that. I forgot that Antonio Baderas was in it. I forgot all of the plot in general, and I just remember the video games. The movie received only mixed, poor reviews from critics, but it was a commercial success. It grossed 407 million worldwide from 120 million budget on par with the second Sonic and Detective Pikachu.

It was good enough that Sony indicated was looking into a sequel with Mark Wahlberg revealing in late 2023 that the script was being written. However, since then, there's been no update. First, films director, Ruben Fleischer, previously expressed the desire to do a sequel. He tells the playlist this week that he's mostly out of the loop in regards to the film. I'm not sure what the latest is on that. I haven't been very participatory in it. Fleischer is currently out promoting his work in the upcoming Now You See Me, Now You Don't. He says he's still developing his long, sitting in Vampire Western.

The Sun always sets in the West, but he describes as essentially unforgiven if the lead character was a vampire. All right. So I'll tell you why this is, to me, hopeful. What's wrong? Okay. Just Ruben Fleischer doing it up. Yeah. I think this is Sony saying we can get out of this with a win, a big win.

Okay. We made $407 million on this franchise on what we did. And we made some money on it. We capitalized on Holland at the time. We came out at a time. I think we came up 2022. Is that when it came out? Yeah.

All right. We came up right at a time when people were starting to go back to the movies and everything, too. That's a win. Our second win here could come if we just do a complete facelift to this thing. Yeah. I think Last of Us is probably something if they're smart, they looked at and gone, wait a minute. We can really build on what they did. And if we can take our video games and adapt each one of them into series and build it,

we can do the same thing the Last of us did. If they're smart, they could say, because Sully, is not Mark Wahlberg. The whole reason they gave him that is because he was supposed to play Drake at one point. Then he aged out of it. And I go, oh, he's part of it. What do we do? Give him Sully.

He's not Sully. Like Nick Offerman is Sully, you know? So they, you should read, just facelifting. And no, there's no one. There is no one that's going to go, what are you doing? We wanted to see that second movie. Oh, you're going to actually do the thing exactly like the game. no one's going to say that it's going to be the opposite i think that's what they're doing yeah and i think

tom doesn't want to i i i it's my opinion and i you know i've never i don't know the man personally but i feel like if you read through the lines of the interviews he's kind of done being like the head of a franchise you know and he's a little tired of it yeah he's gonna be busy with spider man again yeah he's doing it one more time and i think oh not one more time he's got a bunch left well i mean yeah but it's all like i mean from the current contract he's right right right I think this is done. It's done for him. And I think he wants to go back to doing these kind of pieces to satisfy himself creatively.

I mean, remember, he started out doing independent film. That's his instincts. And so I think this is one less franchise he'd have to worry about. I think you're right that Sony's trying to create a graceful exit here from the situation. Because 400 is fine. But for uncharted, I think they were looking at much more than that, even in the middle of COVID or whatever you want to say, 2022 was. And I agree with you. The miscasting of Walbert killed that movie.

And it's not that good of a movie. So I don't see the logic of it. And this isn't like Jurassic World where you just know inherently, no matter who directs it or who's in it, that those films are going to make money. This is something that's still starting out and starting out kind of bumpy. So I don't think there's any logic in going with a sequel. And recasting it, starting all over again, makes all the sense.

It would be stupid greed if they did it because they think, well, we did to be at success with the first time. Everyone wants to see it's like, no, you have an opportunity now. no one's going to care if you're rebooted. Contra. People are going to be excited if you reboot it. And you got away with making money as opposed to making a second one. And if that loses money, then you could hurt the franchise. Right.

You heard it. You could rebuild it. You could build it back up and just do that whole thing and build him from the, do the first game and build out the game and do exactly what last of us season one did. And built a little bit on your material and build off out of it and make some fun creative choices. but stick to it and get the game sales back up again on the first game. So that's what happened with Last of Us. So I think you really have an opportunity to capitalize and build this franchise up.

And this guy, he's one of the best characters in video game history. I know. I agree. And Tom Holland was not the right cast for that either, by the way. I don't disagree with you there either. Yeah. It was a name and it was a name for the time. But I agree.

There's a multiverse thing because it had nothing to do with what the actual thing was. So anyway, what do you guys make of uncharted? Should they reboot it? Should they, it hasn't been enough time already. It's only been what, you know, it'll be four or five years before they do anything with it. So what do you think? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know.

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Make sure you guys do that. 31 is what we got. And we're going to start here to All right. Let's get into John. I got some. I don't know if I talked about this. I didn't. I didn't talk about it yet. So I'll talk about it with you. I got news on, I think, Friday. It was late Friday. It was late Friday. It was at no life show. So I can't, I think they were going to be able to do it soon. But I already announced I'm going to have when I, when I announce, you know, the Kickstarter and everything for the pilot, we're going to bring on the director. We're going to bring on the producer.

We just got another huge person, crew wise. That is absolutely massive. And I didn't know if it was going to happen and it did. And I was shocked and humbled by it. I'm going to text you who we got. And I think that you will be pretty excited in the audience. It's going to be thrilled because what we're really doing is we're going to turn this Kickstarter almost into like a, I don't want to say Project Greenlight, but like a thing where

you get to see the process of how the shows are made. made. You get to be involved in the dailies, you get to be involved with the casting process you get to be involved with, you know, the behind the scene, stuff like everything. So we, and then we, and this other thing that

let me say, I'm going to put it right here. Okay. In, uh, okay. And then I can't wait to tell the audience about it. And it was, it was massive news. Yeah, that's great. Isn't that, I couldn't believe it.

Yes, as a fan of those things, or at least one of those things, I'm very excited for you, and I know a lot of people are a fan of both. And then also, this is actually, this one I know you're a fan of, and they also do that show. Oh, wow, that's great.

Yeah. So all those shows. So we're excited to tell everybody about it. So, okay. Hank Pim, is that the first one? Yes. Shouldn't see in his last opponent, be Gunther. I don't know much excitement

that's going to do. Yeah. Yeah, there's no much excitement that's going to be. Is there any chance it could be Edge? I mean, could they get him back for that? He hinted at it. He hinted at it a few months ago at an AEW live event where he did the, you can't see me. Yeah. What's his contract? Well, he, he, but that

was only because he was, he was paying because Sina had done his move, so he was kind of paying back to respect. But is his contract going to allow him to do it? It all depends on what he's worked out with him. And it all depends on how Tony Khan and WWE come to the table and negotiate that if they let it happen. But Khan usually isn't the kind of person to stand in the way of a wrestler going for a one-off anywhere.

So I wonder if they'll allow that to happen with him. You know, because a lot of people thought the Shield was going to reunite at WrestleMania a few years ago, right? When they played the music, right? Seth came out. So I don't know. I feel like if Edge wants to and they can, they should be able to work something out. Because Siena deserves a great opponent to end. Gunther or Lesnar or these aren't the ones you want to go with.

I mean, if it's Lesner, he's got to win, obviously. He's got to, so we'll see. Hank Pim, Badlands was such a banger. Yeah. Saw it twice. Can you give some quick spoilers on it? I enjoy pretty much every part of except for the monkey. I don't want to give spoiler thoughts yet because it just came out. Right? And Norman, I mean, look, sometimes one of the bigger movies that everybody's running out to see.

We usually do it on the following Monday so I can understand the ask. but I it's it's it's it's not a smaller movie but it's a smaller blockbuster movie if that makes sense so I don't I don't I don't think I think I think it's still think it's going to do a second business I think it's going to it's going to really cut into the running man's box office probably week too especially if the reviews aren't necessarily that strong as they are for predator battle right who knows maybe you and I like running man maybe we'll see yeah I didn't mind the monkey though by the right neither did I I don't people are trying to create this Disney-fying of the

film and it's nonsense. The film is about an underdog trying to overcome the situation. I like what it's about. Yeah, I like it. Wiley, hey. When we're watching the Ken Burns country doc. Country music doc. It's the best music film ever. Wow, reminds me,

did you guys watch the George Jones and Tammy Winnett show and effects? It's really good. I actually really love Wiley's messages lately because he's so music, you know, such as what he does. So, and I love music ones. But no, I didn't see that. So did you see it, John?

Are you a country guy? Oh, yeah, I'm a big country music. Oh, okay. I'm not. You can't put me in a box. You can't put Roke in a box. Got points of views on all sides. So I grew up in Virginia, so country music was a big deal for me.

The 90s country music, 80s country music, certainly going back to Johnny Cash in those days. But I thought that doc was great because it exposed, you know, what has been the truth about country music is that it was influenced by black music as well, like a lot of music was. And so I like that it tried to give you a more broader view of what country music was all about.

It was great. I did not see the George Jones and Tammy Wynette show, though, with Michael Shannon and Jessica Chastain. I didn't want to see that. Ralph! One battle comes out digital. Show Sam. I'm going to potentially show Sam. Barbie comes out tomorrow

with Sam and I. Oh, nice. Because we did Oppenheimer, really set over the weekend. And then we did barbenheimer um and then there'll be a few other ones that will will do together but i think one battle we potentially could do there's no doubt it just a matter of scheduling if i can get her to do it but then she's going to be busy in in december especially because we're probably going to launch a kick starter in december so we're going to put like the you know the kickstarter video in we're probably going to do star wars probably do harry potter or even do some big movies

that she's never seen during that time so people can support because We looked at it and it's like we get enough people to put in like 25 bucks. Yeah, we need because do you know how much the pilot of the bear was, by the way? No, how much was that? How much did you guess? Uh, three million.

No, no, that's a big, that's a big number. 1.1. Um, we are not going to be asking for 1.1, but, you know,

just to show people, because not everybody, this is the other conversation I've been having with these Kickstarter, um, conversations is that you cannot assume that the audience understands, how everything works inside of this, process. And you could think, oh, well, how much does a pilot cost to make? A hundred thousand dollars? Like, no, that's what, if you get the right actors, that's what, that's what four actors cost.

Or less. Right. Or less. But, you know, there's DPs, there's equipment, there's locations. There's all this stuff that goes into it that, you know, if you put it enough, and you're like, okay, listen, if X amount of people put in 25 bucks, we make it at this level, right? If X amount of people put in, if even more people put it in 25. And we hit that if we overperform. Then maybe that person that was on that list for the role of this isn't as far out, isn't as unreachable as we thought. Right, right. If we hit this, maybe they are.

But if we hit this, then we're not. So that's kind of what we're doing right now. Yeah. Simon section, Christian, you think it's possible to funnel any of the Super Chat money into your Kickstarter project? If so, I'd likely to put money in my two cents. J.R. is K.H. Dr. Umar this project. What does that mean? I don't know. No idea. Simon loses me sometimes in that one, buddy. I'm, uh, J.R. is K.H. Dr. Umar. This probably I don't know, love snow bunnies.

I'm going to answer the first part because you lost me in the second half. Um, so the first part, do you think it's possible of funnel the super day? Probably not. That's what I, what I'm going to do is I'm going to do a, um, a full like live stream. Like, I'm going to do one to where it's, I think I told John the slash. I probably do like nine in the morning. into like nine at night one like full live stream and tell people like throughout it like hey you don't want to you know if maybe today if you're going to put in you know three super chats at 10 bucks to sign up at the tier that'll be that'll be good enough for me today if you can do that that's

kind of what we're looking at um renetta w predator badlands equals a certified fun ride al fanning brought the humor i thought she was great yeah the predator bought brought the chaos and i brought my popcorn. I had a popcorn too. Four and a half stars, shining stars for Elefanting and the Badass Predator. People didn't really, really digging it. It was fun. I loved it and I thought she was great. I said that in my review on social media, I thought she went next level, which I didn't anticipate her doing in a predator movie. So good. Blake Gilbert, Predator Badlands is the best Mandalorian episode that I've ever seen that Lucasfilm wishes it would have made just an epic movie. I mean, it had that, it had that feel to it. Like, you know, a little bit more.

It was violent, by the way. I mean, I guess. I just, I don't know. That never occurred to me once as I was watching the movie. Like, because there was no lone wolf and cub situation here. I just didn't feel that way at all, you know? So, but I guess people want to feel that way, I guess. I didn't see it, you know.

Sean, what's up, Sean? Roca, happy Veterans Day, brother. Much love. Thank you, brother. Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Yeah, tomorrow. I'm getting nervous.

I was like, oh, my God, I'm making this guy work on, on Veterans Day. I was like, thank you, Sean. Same to you, my friend. Yeah. Blake coming in hot. What I liked about, thank you so much, Blake,

that's incredibly generous. What I liked about Badlands, like that here's my example. But like, that is the most generous thing in the world. I couldn't, uh, help you.

I couldn't thank you enough. But what I'm saying, like when I do the live stream, I'm going to go, Blake, if you're going to do a question, let me know what the question is, put it in there and then,

you know, sign up for the Kickstarter and let's go. That's, that's what I'm going to be telling people on that day. It's like, um, but that was amazing and so, and so generous.

Thank you. So what I liked about it had great elements of science fiction, also elements from other properties like John Carter-A-Mars books, old-school samurai movies at times. It reminded me of science fiction Conan the Barbarian. Yeah, it had those feels to it. You know what I think so, John? Yeah, old-schools.

Yeah, I guess. I mean, I guess, again, I don't, I don't, I didn't see any of that. And I'm a massive samurai person. I didn't see any of that here. I just, it was, to me, it's a found family movie. It's about family. that's what it's about the found family situation and so it's like

you've got the even at the end well we don't spoil things but parent child stuff is massive throughout the movie whether it's actual biological parent child or not biological parent child you don't think any of this stuff john carter mars old school samurai i can see that yeah i wasn't yeah i didn't see any of that even the conan the barbarian i didn't necessarily

see any of that in in the performance here because he's not a conan character no but i'll tell you what what i did like about it was that The way that they kind of portrayed him first is like the weaker of his species, but then the second he hits on the planet. Yeah, but the second he's on the planet, he's terrifying because he's still harder. Yeah,

that's why I don't, I push back on the Disney fine. He is, they're killing people or killing sentient creatures. Yeah. Throughout the whole whole thing. Yeah, I agree.

Thank you, Blake. Again, super, super generous, my friend. Ibsy 1919. First super chat on here. Thank you, I love watching both you guys. Christian, I love your banter with Mike, but I hate your take on him,

Faloni. What take? I got, listen, when somebody's putting the stuff out there and they're giving, what do you think about this? What do you like about what he's doing? That's what I'm curious. Also, Roca, I'm a man, you fan from Manchester, bad luck with the 30 loss. Yeah, I'm glad you guys are finally good this year after what, 25 years.

Congratulations. Yeah, you feel free to glow, you know, feel good. That's fine. We've been great for 10 years. I want to know what take on Flonnie. because like I'm like I think that it's just the proof is in a pudding at this point. Blake Gilbert, the Papa Predator literally looks like a sham samurai. She did with the armor and helmet.

I love that design. I agree. I agree with him. I'm on Blake's side on this one. I guess. I didn't see that necessarily. All right. All right.

We're all up into our interpretations. Totally. I saw him more as a Viking warrior. I saw him more as something out of the Vikings out of Valhalla. That's what I felt. You know what it is. I think Blake and I had. have similar tastes and whereas a little different because even this one look at this

Christian we do need Dutch completely agree if it works when John said the same thing yeah we need an old man Dutch story I didn't need an old man Dutch story I don't know if you need it I don't know if you need it but I would love to see it I need it maybe me and you need it like but I do need it yeah put it on Hulu then I got no problem but in the theaters you're not going to make any money I just there's there's I told somebody there's they keep making that comment. They're going to get time out for a little bit and then they can come back. Ronetta W. Dan Trajover showed up and showed out. Agreed. Yeah. Agreed. Alex. Picture this. Arnold comes back, teams up with deck and they do a predator handshake

for this time. And one of them is the actual predator guest. I hope that they actually don't do that. I hope they don't. Because I think, you know what I thought really worked well and showed again, Trajaber the way that he made it work and pray when he had the brother say, if it believes we can kill it. Right. It didn't seem forced. It seemed like they worked. And if you knew, you knew. Yeah. You know, and I thought that that was good. If it bleeds, we can kill it.

Great. But I don't want to see a thing for the sake of just doing it. I mean, we saw something at the end of Killer of Killers. Yeah. And then we saw something at the end of Predator Badlands. So I'm putting two and two together in my mind, especially with what the producer said about Arnold coming back. So yeah, we'll see. Put your shoes on. Cam a YouTube member. Perfect.

Good time to do it, man. Good time to do it. Blake Gilbert again coming in. Blake, I'm coming to say this as a Star Wars guy, but Deck would murder Mandeloran Engroo. He went to fight. I don't know about it.

And Grog's got the force, man. You got the force. He could literally crunch that dude into a, and he's getting stronger. Yeah, and he's getting stronger. Yeah, he's getting stronger. Okay. I don't know about that one.

That one may not be. might not be on the same page there. Mike's movie madness. Hey, Willie! An idea for a lower tier award. Maybe PDF comedies of the original draft and the final draft of the pilot. For budding screenwriter,

CF producers knows really work. Okay. So the answer to that is probably 100% on the original draft, but that's the beauty of what we're going to do with this campaign, is that you'll be able to, at a certain tier, you'll be in on certain production meetings. The producer, and director, both so like when you find out again who these people are,

if you're in, if you're a budding screenwriter or someone who wants to get in this industry, you're going to want to join some of these to have meetings with these people. So that's going to be something that we're going to be offering as well too. It's going to be very, I was on a phone with somebody that everybody knows. Again, it was a private phone call, so I don't necessarily want to talk to, you know, just tell what I was. I was talking to somebody over the weekend. That's why I haven't spoken to a little bit.

And I told them that the plan, and they were like, oh, that's really great on offering an audience, an opportunity to really be involved in the process. And I was like, yeah, that's kind of the point.

Okay. So that's Mike. Thanks, Mike. Jim, Burton, from your convote last week, you've seen that POS that is Eden? What is that? Terrible movie, somehow Sidney,

with a bad German accent, the most believable person in it. I'm not too hot in her. either way, but starting to see the talent. I didn't see it. Did you see it? No. Yeah. But I saw Immaculate. She was good in that, even though that film was... Is that the Ron Howard one, Immaculate? No, no, no. That was the horror film.

Oh, okay. She was good in that. Again, there's no doubting her talent. Right. There's no doubting that. You know, the other movie I started was the Jennifer Lawrence... Oh, Diamond Lowe? Yeah, Diamond Lowe. Did you see it? Yeah, I'm just dreading it. I'm dreading it. You did see it or you didn't see it? No, no, I'm dreading it.

because I know I'm going to have to watch it. Yeah, it's, uh, it's definitely like, you know, like, it's hilarious watching my, my, my wife just does not like watching the Oscar artsy, fartsy movies. She just is, so the opening shot is, it's just a long hallway shot of the two of them. And she goes, switch the camera angle, please. She's like, we get it. It's like, so the artsy stuff. And so I was, that one was.

A little tougher for me too, but I'll finish that one too. Carlton Rudder. Oh, wait, did I finish that question? No, I did. I did. Carlton Rudder, London calling. What's up, Carlton? Have either of you seen Down Cemetery Road, season 5 to Sulled Horses, was superb,

highly recommend McCarron books, well worth the time. I guess this is a Roker question. Yeah, we're three episodes into Down Cemetery Road. I have all of them because I get the Apple Screeners. So we're definitely, she wants, I mean, the Lady Alo is addicted to the show. And so we are probably going to finish it in the next couple of days. And season five of Slow Horses was one of the best seasons of the show ever. Agree, 100%.

It was great. Superb. Yeah. I love this comment. I want to see Pluribus too. I haven't watched the first two plurvis. I got to watch that. Battery.

Roca mentioning racks. Yikes, that's just gross. What's wrong? Jesus, what's wrong with you? I have, I am, I, I, you know. I love it. Everyone thinks I was just born at this age. It's like, listen, I had my, you know, I had my run with rack.

for quite a few decades. So, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm not with you on that battery. Let them say what he wants to say. Renetta W. Support and love for the fellas. Back to work. I go. Thank you, Renna. Always a vibe hearing you too.

Thank you. It's always great hearing you talk. Enjoy the rest of your day. What very nice. Thank you. You're always the sweetest. Every time you're the best. Thank you.

Battery. Arnie returning to take on the ultimate predator. Trump. There you. Go pal. Gosling getting beat like he stole something. thing. What's that mean? What does that mean? Oh, man. I don't know. GoPelt. What do you mean? I get lost sometimes in some of these. I don't know what you mean there. Getting beat like he stole

something. I don't know. Unheard sirens incorporated. Later Rambo, that's like casting Michael Sarah. I will tell you something again about Michael Sarah. Yeah. So I just watched Barbie, I think, for the second time. I definitely liked it more of the second time than I did the first time because I just get the tone a lot. more and I've walked in on scenes that my kids have been watching. So Michael Sarah's phenomenal. And he's so good.

Alan, he's so good in that movie. I think that you're watching it with Sam. She was kind of enjoying it too. So it made me like a little bit more. But Michael Serra, James Bond. Good, good call. Yeah. Darth Vader's burnt asshole. Welcome to Darius Plan for three seasons. Yeah, each one going back

another 27 years. That's what my daughter told me. Loving the show and personally, iffy, CJ, doesn't really bother me anymore considering everything is these days see Frankenstein yet i have not seen frankenstein yet i'm probably going to do that one with sam or ming coming up soon um i haven't doing it i figure we just watch that that might be a good one to watch because i haven't it would be my first time watching it also so probably going to do that one um so yeah i disagree with you though on because everyone else is doing bad cg i means let's take a show that really doesn't need it and that has been so solid in the storytelling and building out the lure

and ripping you out of it for a little bit. I don't, it's just unnecessary. It's unnecessary. So I disagree with that, but I, but I'm excited that the three seasons are, our plan because I, I love how they are doing that building on because it'll, it'll elevate it chapter one and chapter two even more.

Yeah. Yeah. Do you think you like the idea that they're doing, you know, because I guess they'll do the 30s and then 1908 or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah. Because I mean, horror is horror, why wouldn't it be something that would go,

every 27 years, right? It makes sense. That's the premise of the show. Hey, hey, Mr. C.J. Hey, Arnold, what are you looking forward to seeing in this week's running man? Well, to be honest with you, it depends on Edgar and what he's going to do. Is you going to shoot there and go, look at that? And it'd be a little slow-mo and then creative, like, one-round, and you go, hey, and you move your head around. You look into, oh, there's the guy from the top gun, the Glenn Powell.

So all they want to do is make sure that they try to be me. Don't do the one line is do something different. And put whiskey and Lulu in there. All right. Put whiskey and Lulu in there. Why not? Ralph! Tarantino says he loves for the First Blood novel and debated on doing a faithful adaptation with

Adam Driver as Rambo and Kurt Russell as Teesel imagine. I didn't know that and I would be the first person online if that ever happened. I would love that. Did you ever read that novel, John? Of course. Yeah, we did it on the Cinefiles recently, First Blood. And so I went and read the novel. Oh, it's so good.

It's a brutal book. It's brutal. He is not the movie. No. Every, like, again, I always use this example. If you know the movie, well, when he's leaving, when he, first of all, when he busts out of the prison or the jail, he's clothed in the movie. And he kills police all over that. He punches the guy in the face in the movie and bloodies his nose.

He guts the dude in the book. Guts him. And then he kills every one of those cops. He kills them all. He kills everybody. It kills the dogs. He kills everybody. Because they're like, he shows you that this ultimate killing machine.

And then so and Teasel, by the way, is you kind of like him in the book. Yeah. Because he and he starts to like Rambo because he's a Korean war vet. Right. So they have like this under, he's got this understanding for him. He starts to like him. And then when Truman kills him, you know, at the end of the book, you get why he has to. In the deleted scene, I mean, no sense why he killed Rambo.

Right, right. So I would love a Tarantino version of that, John? Holy shit. It'd be fun. That'd be great. Once you look at 10 things that he's lying about. He's not retiring. Of course not.

I can't stand when people do that. Orca 447, here's the big question. Who will be the November domestic champion? Wicked or Zootopia. Worldwide Zootopia will win easily. Wicked is not as big overseas. But domestically, I think we see a very close race. I think that's fair.

John, why do you answer that one? I think it's tough because you say Wicked is not big overseas because you're basing it on the first one. But Wicked has now been seeing all over the globe on these streaming services. So the idea that you're going to compare the box office that's coming for a sequel or a part two of a film that's now been seen globally. And people know what they've got in terms of the quality here. I think it's going to be a lot closer race than people think. And Zootopia, yes, Zootopia did really well the first one.

We don't know how the second one's going to do, right? We don't know if they're going to capture the magic. We don't know if it's going to be as interesting. And we don't know if there's going to be as strong of a market, which we've seen now. I mean, go and show the bad. Show me the bad guys too. How'd that do? So you just don't know animation-wise, if these things are going to grab on to people

and if they're going to do like them. I think bad guys, though, bad guys as opposed to Zootopia is a different argument. But I understand what you're saying, but like- sequels not do well animation. Sure. And also the time that it came out, remember, this is going to be coming out in the the November kind of Thanksgiving area, right?

When this comes out and I always say it, and I say it a million times over, if you give family something to see in the theater, they're going to show up for you, especially based off of something like this is the movie that my kids want to see and you get the kids in that theater, you're going to make some money here.

So I think overall Zootopia will beat Wicked, but I think you're correct, Orca, in saying that it's anybody's race in the domestic side of it, but I'll still give the slight edge to Zootopia, but I won't be surprised at all if Wicked wins domestically. I still think it'll do well overseas, but I think that overall, I think Zootopia wins because you just, you just don't count out the kids, just don't

do it. Yeah. Yeah. Alex, I'm utterly disinterested in whatever the deconstructionist take Ryan has on Star Wars. Yeah. I think Last Jedi was a product of a very cynical era in American in film, which was, where it was uncool to be sincere, agree or disagree. I happen to agree with you. Yeah, I agree to. Yeah. I think that there is, you know, I think that, and I also think you're never going to hear him say this because it wouldn't be prudent for him to say it.

I think he liked pissing people off. Yeah. I think that's that he's got that thing in him where he's like, I don't think, I don't think he would have changed a damn thing. And he told the movie and there's something I admire about him where he's just like, you know, I'm going to make what I want to make. And if you didn't, I completely believe him when he said. like, you know, it doesn't, I like the fandom even more.

I don't think he was like, damn, these people are brutal. I don't think he gave a shit. I don't think he cared. But I think he did it to piss people off. I think he definitely did. I'm not smart enough to make a video on this, but there is an exploration here to be had on why Kathleen Kennedy was so willing to give him a trilogy after he made a deconstructionist film about Star Wars.

Because I don't think she probably, maybe she didn't see it. that way before it came out. They signed him up before it came out. Well, I'm saying, but she's seen the daily. She saw them. Sure. I mean, sure. So to me, I think maybe there is an argument to be made that that's how she actually views Star Wars. And I think that is the source of the foundation of the conflict between the fans who love Star Wars and suspect that Kathleen doesn't love Star Wars and is trying to create Star Wars or turn Star Wars into something else. And so her liking Ryan Johnson and giving them a trilogy is something to consider here. I wouldn't agree with you more. Simon section.

I guess we're going to see Rambo, surfing in Vietnam. Like he's in a remake of Apocalypse now, PG film, The Horror. Christian, John, how do you like your water buffalo, Slaughter, no, then talk mean to it. Okay. Is that from a predator? You know, Apocalypse now.

Oh, okay. Do you know, I don't know if I've ever seen that movie? What? All the way through. I've seen clips. Bro. I know. I know.

Oh, bro. I know. I think I need to see that one. I think that's one I might have to see on, uh, do a reaction yeah yeah maybe uh 43 come on can i get to 100 let's see matt krogman from me and the best of the bears fan thank you for keeping us on our toes yesterday i was yeah i was watching that one from um from the from the restaurant

for that place and i was just like this just doesn't it's not going to end well and and and i hate the fact that i'm just like that when i when they lost i was like okay too yeah let's go let's keep going let's keep getting that pick i don't want i don't want them to win anymore. Like, why? They can't, they can't make of the playoffs. Yeah. Lose. Keep losing. It's like major league. I'm not even watching my commanders anymore. Yeah. Oh, bad. They're not a bad. Waste of time. It's bad. 44. Let's say, okay. And now

we've got this next one coming up. Again, thank you for everybody who's been in here. You want to keep us going. Let's do what we're doing. Kiki and Luca, thank you for doing the Demon Sair shows. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, we missed it last week. The movie. We're after this, we're recording that and then I have to hop on a train and go to the city

to go see you running. See Black. Anything new on Doomsday? Not on my end. Roka? No. I haven't heard anything either. And neither is Jeff. I asked him about it over the weekend. He's probably so annoyed with that. The Lil Yankee. Support of my way to work. I like Roka's DCU and MCU-Sweeney opinions. Your Kickstarter

is going to be massive Christian. That's very kind. That's very kind. I really hope so. Look, and the other thing I've told people on the stream on Wednesday and this is something that I've, I'm learning stuff about Kickstarter also is that if we get blessed enough that we hit our goal in day one, right? Like Kickstarter, that's what happened was Stuckman. Stuckman raised over 250K in his first day. Yeah.

And it showcased him right away to the front page and then more people found it and everything too. It's like a social media platform. So I'm going to do everything that I can to hope and to see we can push for that. If we can hit that day one goal. And then like I said, get here, make the show. get here make the best show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know what I mean? Because, I mean, we have, like, ideas for who we want for, like, DP, but you know how much a DP cost, you know? That's like, that's half, that's, the, the, the, half of goal one. Yeah. So, like, that's, that's kind of, and all this will be explained. Yeah. So, yeah. Anyway, well, I'm, someone's at 25 is a lot to donate.

I'm making a television pilot. You know what I mean? I'm not making, there's the tears that I saw from, uh, from stocking were 25, 50. It's like, I'm not, I'm not making, uh, I'm, grasping straws again. I'm making a television show. So that's why I'm, that's why I'm asking for what it is. So I totally understand. Um, so yeah, if that's, if that's a lot, then you're not going to be able to donate and

I completely understand. I completely get it. Not everybody's going to be able to, but it's, it's really not in the grand scheme of things. It just doesn't go pal, Roka. What did you think of David Allen Co? I had a friend of mine who put on the long-haired redneck and you never, talk about separating the art from the artist i mean i think some of the songs are good but when you do

a deep dive on his character and some of the lyric for those songs that's so great he says is a renecker word you can't use here i mean and name of the name of the album so it's yeah he's just be he's just trying to be respectful i get it um okay paul hitchcock really like predator badlands mando and grogue comparisons makes sense with deck and bud the fight between deck and queen even you want to see that with two sets That'd be cool. It'd be cool. I don't see the deck. I really don't see it.

Okay. I just don't. But was his own entity. Bud was his own thing. Deck was his own thing. They were both on separate journey. They were on a journey together in my minds. Comics with Izzyverse NYC.

Badlands, thumbs up. Pay cost living six plus four. Five bucks. Sometimes I don't understand the questions. did you get that one i think he's trying to say that they pay the six dollars for the tickets was four and the food it was 30 let's sum up pay cost of living i don't really i'm sorry comics with izzie i don't i don't get that one as much yeah um go pal edin is the ron howard one right that's the one right that's what i said ron howard and you see yeah no he was asking about

the other one the immaculia yeah okay nathan drake roka you're gonna watch all's fair. Kim Kardashian is a lawyer standing around with her butt out. I might have to check it out. Is there a trailer? It's already out. Oh. It was horrific. I watched 30 minutes of it and I was like, I can't. This is so terrible. What a waste of incredible. She's the head of a law firm, which of course, it came out over the weekend that she failed the bar again for the sixth time in L.A. But she's the head of a law firm. She can only do that in the fantasy world, which is like it has all, Sarah Paulson, Naomi Watts, like Glenn Close.

These are all these are female lawyers in this show. And she is horrible. And I get it. They cast all these strong actresses to elevate her. But it only makes her look worse. So yeah, it tanked. It's tanking. Okay.

Francisco Lopez. If they're going to reboot on chart, I prefer a movie and TV show. I could see Jack Quaidis Drake. Yeah, I couldn't disagree more. I would be really upset if they did a movie. Because you can't, it's just so condensed. if they did a movie, I would, I'd probably just scream boo into the, into the camera.

That would be so horrible if they did a movie because it's like you take all the great stuff that's in there. And I imagine they would have done the last of a season one as a movie. He would have lost like, you would have lost all of it. Like no, please. No offense, Francisco, but I, God, I hope they don't, they don't hear that. Please don't do a movie. That would be terrible. Go pal. Brian Gossing was an absolute liability at cornerback. Remember the Titans. They had to move PD from offense replace me. I need to watch that again. I haven't seen it so long. Sam Levine, do you remember that scene? Was he in that? No, remember they kept tripping him up.

Oh, right, right, right, right, right, right. See, again, yeah, until you said that, I blocked out most of that. I am two fly cam. Me and my lady excited for that 50-year mortgage. Yay. Enjoy. Enjoy. Is they're promoting now? 46. Oh, all right. 46. Oh, wow. Sorry, guys. My abilities get the 50. Hold on. Let's see. Joey Pedrus, you might have addressed this already, but what do you think about the Gremlin's 3 announcement? Chris Columbus is coming back. I did talk about this when they announced it. I just, what are they making? Are they making Gremlins 1 or are they making Gremlins 2? Because they were set up in a very different tone. The first one was a horror comedy. The second one was a satire comedy, which has built a kind of cult following. I can't stand it. I hate it. um, Bibiani and Mance run that fan club. Um,

I can't stand that movie. Um, and I hope that they do more of the first one. If Chris Columbus does a movie like the first one, then yeah. I mean, I'd like to see what they do with it. Yeah.

I don't know. You're bringing, I'm more excited that the final destination bloodlines guys are involved in this. I'm not excited about Chris Columbus because if you look at his resume, and I said this on geek buddies last week and on hot mic, his resume is not good over the last 20 some years. Some pretty bad movies there. So I'm not excited.

for him to direct it. I think Spielberg EPing it is great because I think that's why they brought in the Final Destination Bloodlight guys because even Spielberg was like, look, we'll let you do the movie Chris, but we're bringing these guys in so that we don't let you go into the safer places that you like to go to. We're going to have

some more edge to this and the guys and these guys also directed Final Destination so they might even be on set, you know, with certain scenes. So I think the combo is fine. I'm not excited about Columbus coming back to direct this. Because it's always been a safe vanilla type of filmmaker. I think the safe vanilla

filmmaker for Grimmon's 3 is okay, though. Paul Hitchcock, not interested in an old man Dutch. Here you go, Roker. At this point, we'd rather see the son of Dutch with Alan Richardson? Roker. What's scarier? Dad Predator or Cheryl Hines hop up on junk? Is she taking Joy mode?

I don't know. She's irrelevant. Whatever. No, Dad Predator is certainly scarier. And I'm down with Alan Rich. I'm 100%. I'm down with it. Are you guys planning to watch Pluribus? this is such a strange answer you're going to get for me okay i love vinskele again i'm breaking

break my breaking bad is one of my favorite shows like of all time all i hear is how pluribus is great and it's so amazing why do i have no desire to turn on i don't know i don't even know what's about maybe you yeah maybe you just not a rhea seahorn fan maybe i don't i don't even know who's in it i know i know nothing about it better call so oh you didn't see better call saw i think if you saw better call saw you'd be more than should because she's the lead in this and she's the co-lead in that in that show. I eventually will and I'm probably one of these things. Look, I didn't discover Breaking Bad.

I didn't watch Breaking Bad until it was already on for four seasons. I still haven't watched. You still never seen Breaking Bad? No, I saw the first season years ago. Oh, okay. I've never gone back to it. It's great. It's one of my favorite shows of all time.

And so I might. I just, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. Comics came back. Comics with Izzy. I paid extra $6 for tip.

food 35 dollars he goes 41 plus 20 still this is all Greek I don't understand what he's saying he paid extra six dollars and then he played a well food so he's like 41 plus 20 I'm trying now I'm trying I'm trying to figure out what I'm saying but I think he paid a lot of you know what does that mean C-O-M I think he paid a lot of money okay either in oh okay so the food plus tip was $41 then the ticket was $20.601 well why you ordering food at the movie theater don't bitch if He was going to cost a lot of money. How do you know he's, how do you know he's bitching? Maybe he's just saying what he, what he paid.

Oh, really? I don't know. He's bragging. He paid $61 for a move. I think he's just saying it was worth the, it was worth the money he spent because he liked. I don't know. I don't know. I'm trying to help him out.

I'm trying to help you out here. So, all right, I think, I think that's it. Oh, you know, one more from Go, pal, I think. Oh, we do. Okay, let me double check. All right, let's say. Okay. There are you.

Go, pal. We got one more and you get to 50. One more person can throw in and they get 50 at least for today. Go Pal, has Chris Columbus directed since Harry Potter 1 and 2? That's a good question. Yes. What did he direct? He directed pixels, which was horrific.

Oh, pixels. Did it do well, though, pixels? He did not do well, though. No? Here's what he's directed since the Harry Potter moves. He directed rent, the version of rent, which was horrible, terrible version of rent. I love you, Beth Cooper, which was not good. Percy Jackson, the Olympians, the Lightning Thief, which was not good so much so they

rebooted the whole thing. pixels, which was not good. The Christmas Chronicles part two. Me. Oh, did you do part one? No, he didn't. Part one was good. Okay. And then the Thursday murder club recently on Netflix, which was... So he's been doing stuff. Yeah, but they haven't been good. Right. But I think that you get him for that reason alone to...

Like you said, he's a safer guy. But I wouldn't mind it. All right. Well, today was 49. What a... Oh, no, there you go, 50th. There you got a 50 by Go pal. Plyubus was great to go in totally blind. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to see it. Yeah. He's brilliant. He's brilliant. I just, it's one of these things I can easily see myself going, why wasn't I excited to watch that? This is Ryan Johnson. I'm Ryan Johnson. Sorry. Vince Gilligan. I'm like, that's, come on. But, but yeah, I don't know what it is. It's like, I think sometimes when I see things hyped up and I see people talking about how great things are, sometimes I go, I'll find out for myself eventually. I don't know. I don't know why. Sometimes I do that. You know what's funny. Seeing you,

go through things that I went through because I'm older than you. I went through the same things. That's people like, remember people gave me crap. Why aren't you used to give me crazy? Like, why aren't you reviewing it the moment it comes out? And I'm like, you know, once I'm under mood, because I want to see things when I'm able to see them. I get it.

Joey Pedrus, any plans to watch Keeper this weekend? Which one's that? That's the Osgood Perkins horror with Tatiana Maslani. Oh, I like Osgood Perkins. The trailers are fucking insane. I like her too. So, I don't know, maybe. Maybe it's a action one. Um, comics, Badlands loves extra cost.

So you're saying. Badlands loved extra cost. Yeah. Oh, oh. I know. Comics, you're doing this on purpose today. I know he is doing it. He's doing it. He's doing it. He's writing. He's writing in, uh, in high for movies. Okay. Thank you for being here today. I really appreciate it. 52. I like it. Good start. Good start. Good start. I'm going to get to 100, but thank you. Oh, you got 53. There you go. There we can't be said that the MCU created 30 visions of doomsday trailer for Avatar 3. I've already versions. Oh, wait a minute now. Yes.

Go ahead. I love that. I love what John said. That's one of the scoops last week. That was one of my scoops. Literally my first scoop on last Monday was there were various trailers created for Dune's Day. So I love John, but that was not, that was not John. That was that was mine on Monday.

Yes, various trailers were created. And that's why I said that Peggy and, and Steve were in one of the. those, but they're battling back and forth on it. So, um, okay. Thank you for being here. I appreciate all of you guys. And again, uh, John, real quick, where can they? Please follow me at the Roka says on social media everywhere.

And then head on over to my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roker says for all the stuff going on there. Get us to 50,000. Thanks to everybody. Thanks, Christian. Another fun Monday. Take care everybody. Oh, sorry, John.

Uh, so yeah, check out, John. Please go check out on it. We'll be back here tomorrow with Roxie and Mike. And again, for people. And I want to just address the comment before where, look, I told you what we're going. We're not, we're not shooting like a kind of a low budget thing with the pilot. We're going, we're trying to like shoot this thing and then show Netflix, Apple, whoever, you know, Amazon, Paramount, whoever and say, look, this is a finished product and this is what it would look like if you guys would have given us the money for it.

But we did it on our own. You can't do that for smaller tiers. You just can't. Um, so we're getting like I want to hit goal one and, and you're going to get an experience that you're not going to have at other ones where you're going to be involved in the process. You're going to be involved talking to people that you wouldn't have access to and those things. So that's why, um, the tiers are going to be what they are. I'm really modeling them off of similar what, what Stuckman had done with, uh, Shelby Oaks. So again, if you can, I understand it. Um, but I was just going to say if you're, if you're able to, and if enough people do, we'll be able to make this show. So, uh, uh, that's all I'm saying. So thanks for being here. Appreciate you. Miguel, John's gone to all answer to this. Who are your top three personal favorite male and female performances of the year, not based on an Oscar bus. Who do you think should and will get nominated? Well, I can ask that one. Um, so for me,

Leo stands out. Michael B. Jordan stands out for sinners. Um, I mean, if we're looking at supporting Sean Penn, I tell you, I like David Johnson in a long walk. I don't think that'll happen. Julie Roberts, I thought was great. And after the hunt, Sidney, definitely for Christy. Those are some of the ones that pop out right now, but there'll be more for sure.

But that's it. That's all I got. Thank you guys. Please go and check out my welcome to Dairy episode three reaction. It's out on the channel now. I'm going to have an out-of-the-the-the-the-the-the-the-the-tear reaction for running me on tonight. And that's it. So thanks for being here.

Thanks to John Roka 54 here today. I appreciate you and we'll see you on the flip side. The other thing too, please, and I said this on Wednesday and I say this to you guys here. If you're watching this, whether it is live now, whether it is on the replay, whether it's on the Clips channel, what in this experience, what I'm doing with the pilot would you want to see and what would get you excited to be part of it, whether it again is being part of the casting process, seeing, you know, seeing table reads doing, having, access to whether it's when we finally do an after part, whatever it might be. What is it for you guys that you say, you know what?

This is what I want to see, what I would like to do and how I would want to support this thing and how I want to also say, look, I helped get that thing on the air. That's what I want from you guys. I've been listening to all of you for shit, man, over 15 years now. The community is most important. And it's going to be all of us together getting this done. So whether it's the comments in whether it's comments, live comments on the replay or just in live streams coming up, let me know.

Thank you. Appreciate you guys. And we'll see you on the flip side. Bye everybody. And peace out.