The Kristian Harloff Show - Reeves, Gunn, & The Future of Batman – It's Getting Complicated!

Episode Date: April 11, 2025

MAGIC MIND:  https://magicmind.com/kh CODE: KH20 Things are heating up in Gotham... again. On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, we're breaking down the latest rumor that director Matt Reeves may exit The Batman Part II if production doesn't begin later this year as planned. With the movie already delayed multiple times, will Reeves walk? And what does that mean for Robert Pattinson's Bat-future? We also dive into Brandon Sklenar's latest comments about potentially playing Batman in the DCU—revealing not only that he's talked to DC Studios but also which Bat-actor is his personal favorite (hint: it's not who you'd expect). Plus, Vincent D'Onofrio, who plays Kingpin in the MCU, now says he wants to play Swamp Thing in James Gunn's DCU! Could we see him cross over into DC horror? In Marvel news, Fantastic Four: First Steps is making waves as new info drops on Galactus, Johnny Storm, and Sue Storm's Malice twist. The MCU is clearly going bold with its First Family reboot. Join Kristian Coy and Winston on Capes and Cowls! 🔑 Topics Include: Matt Reeves may exit The Batman Part II if delays continue Brandon Sklenar talks Batman & picks his favorite Bat-actor Vincent D'Onofrio wants to play Swamp Thing in the DCU New Fantastic Four details: Johnny Storm changes, Galactus costume, Sue Storm as Malice Supergirl set video shows Milly Alcock in comic-accurate costume The future of DC's The Brave and the Bold Is DC putting The Batman franchise at risk? OUR Sponsors: If you're 21+, try VIIA during their annual SPRING 420 SALE for Black Friday-level savings up to 35% OFF site wide! Go to https://viia.co/KRISTIAN and use code KRISTIAN! FAST GROWING TREES: This Spring FGT has the best deals, for your yard, up to half off on select plants and other deals. And listeners to our show get FIFTEEN PERCENT OFF their first purchase when using the code BIGTHING at checkout. http://www.fastgrowingtress.com VIIA: Try VIIA! https://viia.co/KRISTIAN and use code KRISTIAN! FACTOR: Get started at http://www.factormeals.com/kristian50off and use code kristian50off to get 50 percent off plus FREE shipping on your first box.  🦇 Will DC really juggle two Batmen? Could Sklenar become Bruce Wayne in the DCU? And how serious is Reeves' rumored exit? We're breaking it ALL down.

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We talked about it yesterday a little bit on the show about, well, not a little bit, a lot, about certain things that might be going on and why Batman might be pushed back. Now there's a new report that Matt Reeves might exit the Batman altogether. If shooting doesn't begin planned later this year, the report was that at 2026 they were going to start shooting, if that's the case, Matt Reeves might not even be involved. What are we going to make of all this? Because we're going to dive into all that. And we also, same thing.

Yesterday we talked about Brandon Sklnar and Batman. And he addressed it again in a new interview as he was promoting Drop. So we'll discuss that. We got Supergirl stuff. There's a great article that came out in comic book movie about some of the projects in the DCU that were going to happen but didn't. Once, you know, James Gunn and Peter Saffron took. over and we'll we'll kind of go over briefly on that article and see if maybe there's something that'll happen with james gun and peter saffron of some of those projects we'll see in marvel news kingpin

well marvel and dcc kingpin himself vinds and dnafka is talking about he wants to be in a dc project what project is that and speaking of deer devil we'll give our thoughts on that we got thunderbolts coming out we'll talk about the praise that the movie's getting gwyneth paltrow might come back to marvel there's tons of stuff today it's capes and cows everybody on the christian Harlov's show with myself, Winston and Koi. Let's do this. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Scapes and cows. I'm excited for this show. It's myself, Koi, Jandro, Winston A. Marshall. The gang is back in town. Quay is now one of my favorite people in the world. It's very complimentary to me as far as noticing that I had been actually hitting the gym and losing weight.

You see it in the thumbnails. It's the jaw. It's coming back. It's smelt. Winston, on the other hand, said, what are you eating, you fat bastard when I was eating like my lunch? Yeah, that's totally what I said and not,

what are the numbers? It's awesome. It's good to have you guys back. It's good for us to be back here. We got a lot to discuss on today's show. We'll get right into yesterday, man. We had Steph and Mike on. They beat Roxy.

They stand at 126 today. which is a good number which is a healthy number for you guys to try to beat. Real talk. Someone, I'm closing the comment thing right now. Someone was like, dude, it's your arms. It's not your jaw, I show arms. You were like, you were out here

looking like you're ready to get into a DC Marvel movie, bro. I'm trying. We'll see. Which is one Logan Paul, Jake Paul puncher thing. And that was before I was supposed to do it. I was wishing, I was like, man, I just wish I could have waited another month or two to then have that competition with him. I still, I would love to do that again with him.

Nonetheless, we got a lot to talk about guys. So let's get into the first story I actually want to discuss, even though we're going to dive so deep into all this Batman stuff because there's tons of it. But the first thing is actually this report that came out today about Gwyneth Paltrow, is now said to be in talks, returning to the MCU as the Pepper. of the pots. That's right. Apparently Blink 82's coming back too. That's great. Okay. So though we're not sure which project she'll appear in, Gwyneth Paltrow is now rumored to be in talks to reprise her role as Pepper Potts in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. One would assume

Spider-Man. We haven't seen Paltrow as Pots since her emotional final scene in end game, but it sounds like Marvel Studios is planning to bring Tony Stark's widow back to the MCU. According to my time to shine, hello. Paltrow is now in talks to reprise her role for an upcoming Marvel Cinematic Universe project, either Doomsday or Secret Wars or both are the most likely possibilities, but there's a chance that Pepper could show up in an upcoming Disney Plus series. Paltrow debuted as Tony Stark's love interest in Pepper Pots in the first Iron Man movie and has since made several notable Marvel Cinematic Universe appearances, ultimately getting the chance to suit up and rescue in end games, despite donning armor of her own and getting more

screen time than she had in a lot of her previous MCU movies. Paltrow recently revealed that she still hasn't watched the movie. To be honest, I stopped watching them at some point. I've never seen Endgame. I can't keep track of who's what, but I probably should at some point. As for why she gradually became disillusioned with the MCU, Paltrow feels that the franchise hasn't been the same for a while, suggesting the movies gradually lost their independent feel as they went on. She said that the first film that we did was very different from the rest because the studio didn't think it was going to be a big hit. They hired Favreau to direct, who was great. And they hired Robert Nany Jr., who was unhirable at the time. His

career was at a very low point. We improvised almost every scene of that movie. The actress continued. We could, we would write scenes in the morning in John's trailer. It was like doing an independent film and the movie was such a huge hit that we didn't make them like that anymore. Paltrow has previously indicated that she wouldn't have much interested in returning his pots, especially if Downey Jr. Stark isn't involved. And then a big truck of money landed in her backyard. And she said, okay. Oh, my God, stop yelling at me. She jokingly responded when asked why she stopped playing Pepper during a recent Q&A. We just stopped doing it because Iron Man died.

And what do you need pepper? Why do you need pots without Iron Man? I don't know. Call up Marvel and yell at them. Not me. I'm just sitting here. Paltrow does raise a good point. Does the MCU need pepper without Stark,

especially with Rie Williams, Ironheart in line to take up the mantle of the next Armored Avenger? Okay. So there's a lot there because, you know, one could say, well, she said she wouldn't return without Downey, but Downy is returning. But I can't even talk about this yet. I'll tell you why. I do have energy. I'm not going to lie to you.

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scooting over, we're going to talk about this possible return of Pepper Potts. Koi, as I was saying, she said, you know, it doesn't make sense without Downey. Downey is returning, obviously, as Doom, is there a scenario where she sees his face and she just can't handle it? Is it Doomsday that she comes back? Is it Secret Wars? Is it Spider-Man? What do you think about this? I can see it being used as a Secret Wars moment. I feel like they're going to really need to load up that movie with every cameo. The expectations for cameos as well as supporting roles is heavy, but so many of these roles,

we or I think are going to be supporting roles. So what's going to be the build on top of that? So I think in addition to Secret Wars Ironheart would be a cool place. I don't think she's in Iron Art, but I think the moments in Iron Heart set up an opportunity to have like a mentor role because she's the CEO of Stark Industries. Like there's an important role for Pepper Potts in the universe and whether or not that interacts with Downey or not will be, you know,

a fan moment to be seen, but I think there's a potential. It is my biggest thing out of this quote is I was thinking about how much we're excited for Thunderbolts, and I've been thinking about how much we've been talking about the 824 elements and which cast members are in it. And then I was thinking like, man, it feels like Iron Man, Winter Soldier, Guardians the Galaxy, this Thunderbolts movie, all the ones that have that indecisibility, Winter Soldier is the furthest from that. But even in that movie, the gritty choices and that against studio tradition kind of

mode that movie operates in. All those are my favorite MCU films. So it is interesting to hear her directly talk about the studio system, kind of taking over everything and it getting messy. The most studio of them that I love is no way home. But I think that was a lot of different lessons learned. But I think all of the best Marvel films through all the phases, the ones that feel more independent.

Yeah, I think Winston, it's interesting. She made those points because some of her points were very interesting. I mean, look, there's tons of actors. that don't watch the stuff that they're in. Katie Sackoff has never watched Battlestar Galactica. I mean, she talks about it all time, right? She's never, she's never seen it. Maybe I'm just really vain.

There's some people who do watch it also, man. But there's a lot that don't. And but she gave her reasoning as far as why. And the initial reason is the initial reason of, look, without Tony, what is she doing there? I think she could jump up and do some for, for, you know, the kid, for Spider-Man. Sure, she could have maybe helped out Anthony Mackey

and Falcon and Winter Soldier, give him a couple bucks for his boat. But either way, you know, she, it makes sense what she was saying. What doesn't make sense all the way, although I understand where she's coming from, when she says, okay, look, that first movie was like an independent film. All that stuff

makes sense. Like, yes, we know the stories of Downey was not, they were worried about them and that he was going to fall off again and all that stuff. And we've heard the stories about them writing stuff on the scenes and all that. So we validated all that. Um, but afterwards, well, they stopped being that afterwards. Well, yeah, because it became a hit.

You know, it's like, of course. That's, that's, that's kind of how it works. You can't, you can't do that with everyone because the other reason why you can't do that is you don't have Favreau and Downing Paltrow on the same and every movie. I've been around many people who improv ideas and you go, please don't do that again. Like, even with Schmowdown, I remember some of the ideas that people, some people would pitch ideas. I mean, this is brilliant. Yes, absolutely say that. And then I had someone pitch.

a team name and the team name was pants optional for team name I mean you understand I mean I joke about all the time with like what the the with with Marisol McKee and and Adam Collins we would to call ourselves the Howls of Justice sounds like a bad 1930s movie and now coming out of theaters the house of just house I'm like but you get people who are suggesting stuff all the time you can't do that in every movie you just can, especially when things are a success. So Winston, you know, you hear all these comments about

that in general. I want to hear your thoughts on that, but then couple that with should she return in the next movie? I mean, I, again, I hear some of what she's saying about if you don't have Tony, why would you have Pepper?

But my immediate counter to that is, okay, so then why was happy around? You, like, happy, you would make the argument that Pepper is technically more important than Happy in the sense that she is the CEO of Stark Industries, as we mentioned. So that's actually a little more poignant than the fact that, oh, happy was sticking it to May. You know, because then even on top of that, then May dies and you still brought him in for Deadpool.

So like that's where I start to go, I see what you're trying to say, but we've already proven that that's not a thing. So that's the first part. Um, the second part, I do think she would be a good mentor, uh, if not for Peter at this particular juncture, uh, for Riri in the fact that she's not only the CEO of Stark Industries. She's also an armored Avenger herself. She gives a good connection. It does give a good connection there. Yeah. So then so then on top of that, especially if you can't lean on Rodee because Rodey apparently is a scroll, or was a scroll and doesn't even know where he is now. Then you, then then it would make sense to, to, to, to, to, to, lean towards her, especially if you're not also going to have her go talk to Shuri or something. You know what I'm saying? So I think that that would be a smart play. She's always brought like a unique element to it as well.

And I agree with Koi that once we get to Secret Wars, I think she'll probably show up in Doomsday. And I think where it's going to show up specifically is you're going to end up in a situation where again, I don't think this is evil Tony Stark. I think Victor von Doom from whatever university is from looks like Tony and realizes he looks like Tony and uses it to his advantage to gain power. So I think that that would be an interesting element to have Pepper, maybe even their daughter, be like, oh, shit, and he's just playing it up to get what he wants.

I think that that would actually be a very interesting emotional pull at the heartstrings to do that. Yeah, and they could very well do that depending on how the story all fits together. And in fact that the Rousseau's are going to be there, Downey's going to return. if they want her, they'll probably be able to get her, right, if it fits in. Even if it's only, you know, like a scene like she did in, like you said, Coy, in the Spider-Man movie. So, all right, well, what do you guys think? Should Gwyneth Paltrow return?

Does it matter? Should Pepper Pots make an appearance to really tie it all together? Will it feel like that classic, you know, Marvel phase one through three tone? What do you think? Put your thoughts in there. Got to know. Um, real quick, I want to talk about Daredevil if we're talking about the MCU. I haven't really talked to Winston and Coy about it as much.

We discussed it briefly every time we're talking about it on the show, but it's really, it's brief and probably brief again too, but I think Coy said last week that last week's episode seven, not eight, um, was your like one of your least favorites, I think. Yeah, yeah, seven didn't really seven was all the concerns I felt other people had kind of coming to fruition for me. What about eight? And it helped me a lot. It was awesome.

It was incredible. Eight actually bandated my problems with seven. And it also, I think, did The Impossible, which is it's kind of causing this great attachment from the old Disney Plus show into the new Netflix. Sorry, the old Netflix show, it feels like it's coalescing with the Disney Plus show in a way that season two, I think is going to feel even more like Netflix. Because this season, they've had to do The Impossible and they've had to like cherry pick elements of what was already filmed. They had a whole show done. They scrapped, but they kept some of it. So what they've been able to do with one, eight, and parts of two through seven have been impressive. But seven was an episode that definitely felt like they had to kind of end an entire storyline hurriedly.

I felt like the way they ended Muse. Because I know we've talked about me reading the comics versus not, but even just from a TV standpoint, I did feel like they didn't set up enough with Muse to make that seven as impactful as it could have been, even with like three more scenes throughout the other episodes. Whereas eight was like, hey, let's slow down, let's marinate, let's make this, this incredible tango of the way things have come together. They built this arc structure of Kingpin rising back up while Daredevil is rising back up, this born again mentality. What I love most is that it's not only Daredevil being born again, not only Kingpin being born again, but it's the show being born again. Like Daredevil, the property is born again.

And to that's a hundred percent. And I think that what I liked about, I mean, I've liked every episode. I've really liked every episode. And I think that what it's because of what you just said, Winston, it's like this slow build and slow burn that they've allowed it to breathe, you know? And it's finally gotten to a place where Koi said where you feel like, okay, it's exactly what this show is supposed to be. But are you all caught up, Winston? So that's what I was texting earlier today. I didn't do eight.

I was going to say with seven, it did throw me off. It seemed very abrupt with how things were, were, were, we're, dealt with in that particular. Spoilers. Just be careful on spoilers. Right, right, right. That's what I'm just leaving it at that. I'm just, just how things were dealt by the end of that episode was, I was like,

okay, we keep, we keep doing this thing very rapidly. And I don't, I don't know how I feel about it. I mean, on the one hand, it kind of feels like, okay, this is a little comicy, but I know that we're going to run out of episode soon. So it's a little weird to so abruptly do certain things that are happening. But I will say the only thing I do know about eight is because it has been a meme all over black Twitter over the last like 24 hours of making jokes about Matt like Stevie Wonder. A lot of black people like to make this joke that Stevie Wonder isn't actually blind. So for him to dance with King Ben's wife and look him dead in the face.

A lot of people be like, I would instantly throw hands with this blind man if he did some shit like that. The other thing I was always curious about is that, and this might be an answer that you guys have easily, because it might be from season three. If Kingpin knows that Matt Murdoch is Daredevil, why doesn't he expose him? I think there's a mutual understanding of if you're going to stay in your lane, I'll stay in mind that we have at that diner scene. But they haven't stayed in their lanes. But now, I mean, what's going to happen with the events of eight?

Like now he knows that he's back because of seven. But it's because the episode. the end of eight that I say, oh, now I understand why he wouldn't, but it's, it's, I don't want to spoil things. I know. So I'm like, how do I answer this? Anyway, so, um, I really like what this show is doing. It's a bummer that it's like it's not, no one's talking about the show. The numbers on like reactions and reviews is so different than I expected. I thought this was going to be, you know, the, that we talked for a year about this being the big comeback show. It's the best quality Marvel show in quite a while.

I would say this is on par with Loki, again, Benson and Moorhead and Wanda Vision. It's that top tier of Marvel for me. It's a very well-written, put together, well-acted show. Especially the stuff they clearly have put together in the new era. Like, especially the stuff that is Justin and Aaron's work that's going to lead into season two. I think season two is going to be Wanda Vision pre-finally good. Yeah. Well, they also, they greenlit season.

three so do we know that two and three are are coming um so i i'm i couldn't be more excited about i hope people get on board with it and check it out i i i um yeah never mind never mind i i realize i realized there would have kind of been some spoiler stuff for seven i know we're a week ahead of that but i'm just going to be quiet fair enough what's your thoughts on it did you are you digging daredevil have you not watched it have you decided to bail on it what say you guys i I got to know. Tickets are not on sale yet for this show, this one here. And I haven't and that Christianarloff.com doesn't even exist. It's fixed. It's a different picture. It's just only the one to have at the moment, but I want to tell people about it. Sam and I are going to be doing

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we talked about it yesterday but now we're going to There's a new thing in this story. Matt Reeves, apparently, this is a rumor, might exit the Batman Part 2 if shooting doesn't begin as planned later this year. While it currently appears as if Batman Part 2 will begin shooting this year as planned, should the movie be delayed again, there's a chance filmmaker Matt Reeves will step away from the project. Batman 2 repeated release date delays have led to concerns that the movie will never happen.

While the Batman was a success in 2022, and the Penguin received rave reviews when it premiered last September, Warner Brothers giving up the franchise isn't outside the realm of possibility. Neither the film nor TV series ended on a cliffhanger as such, and with DC Studios looking to deliver its own Batman movie titled The Brave and the Bold, there's something of a conflict there that surely puts the Batman franchise at risk. So earlier this week, there was once again chatter online about the Batman Part 2 being pushed back because filmmaker Matt Reeves or someone else close to him is dealing with health issue.

He's yet to comment on the show. that and likely won't, giving that it's a personal matter. On the hot mic podcast, Jeff Schneider shared his take on whether Robert Pattinson joining the cast of Dune Messiah is an indication that the Batman sequel is about to be hit by another release date delay, which was said to be a possibility earlier this week. I don't think anything has changed. I don't believe that movie has been delayed. I think Pattinson is doing both. Yes, he's going to do Dune this summer and then yes, that's the summer and he's going to be Batman in the winter. When they say push to 2026, could that be like, hey, we're going to start in December

and now we're starting in January? That could technically be it, Snyder continued. I don't think there was a massive delay. While the prolific reporter declined to specify what's happening in Reeves' life, he did express a strong belief, which may be more opinion-based than scoop. If Reeves isn't able to begin work on the Batman Part 2 by the end of 2025, there's a chance that Warner Brothers will move on without him, whether that means. mean scrapping the movie or hiring a new director isn't clear. He said, I know that Grace said

something the other day on her show. I think she has certain things wrong. I think that situation is still unresolved and that's why things are still unresolved as far as the Batman. I'll put it this way. I think even though that situation might be unresolved, I would say that if a decision isn't made by the end of the year, if the movie doesn't get up and running by the end of the year, I do think Reeves will exit. I think it'll be a hey, we've got to move on here. It'll be very sad. at this point, people are going to be understanding the circumstances, but there's some frustration, and it's going to be, we need to go on this with or without you soon. This may put an end to theory is that there's some kind of rift between Reeves and DC Studios' leadership.

However, if Gunn is holding off starting work on the Brave and the Bowl because Winter Brothers wants to prioritize the Batman part, too, something's got to give. Batman remains DC's biggest box office draw, and at this rate, will be closing in on 2030 before seeing him take center stage in a movie again. That won't benefit the DCU or Reeves Batbursts tellingly, Snyder also suggests the same. sequel script still isn't done. Well, we don't know this. It says the Batman will be released in theaters on October 1st, 27. It's supposed to. I don't know about that. I want to clarify something else ago. I saw Jeff Snyder, and this is one of the few articles that I think did mention this. The Snyder said it on Twitter. Stander was pissed that so many people picked this story up as a story. He said, this is my opinion. He said, in the same way that we're

making our opinion here in about a minute or two from this question. He said, it was my opinion on what I think could happen. It's not gospel and people are taking it and putting it as a headline. He's like, that's what I think, but I don't know that for sure. It's just an opinion. So I want to make that clear going into this that Jeff didn't say, oh, you know what I heard. If he doesn't do this, he's out there not doing it. He said, that's what he thinks. And I think it's a fair assessment to make because my thought process on guys is that what I think is happening, and I made this point yesterday, I'd love to hear what you both think. And Coy, I know there's only so much like you, A, could say, B, want to say at this point.

So we understand that if you've got to kind of tiptoe around things, I completely get it from your relationship with D.C. But we will, I'm going to start with saying that I think that what Warner Brothers is doing, I don't think if they're prioritizing Batman part two. I think that they're waiting to see a bunch of different things. One, whatever the situation might be with Matt Reeves and giving him the respect of figuring out whatever it is, personal issues, and they know what it is. We don't and nor should we, not our business. They'll figure all that stuff out. But I think what Warner Brothers is doing is they're going, we've got a really big movie and an important movie coming up in two months. It is a massive movie. It is Superman. It starts our DCU. If the movie fails, it makes no sense for us to go, you know what, let's not do the Batman 2 right. now because if the movie fails the DCU universe unfortunately no one's going to care about it because that's that's your linchpin that's that's the thing and if you don't have a batman movie

lined up anytime soon you're in trouble anyway so they're waiting there let's see how this does if this does well and supergirl is the next one then i think the batman two is in serious trouble if general they can't get it happening if it isn't this movie come out in two 30 2013 with old robert patinson who cares because they're going to need something anyway so they're They're waiting. I think that's what they're waiting on. And if Matt Reeves decides, hey, this is a lot for me right now, I can't do this. And I probably won't do it for a little bit. So I'm out.

I also think that's a possibility. But Winston, you hear all this stuff, like this particular story, what do you make of it, man? You're muted, buddy. You're muted. I think, first of all, above all else, and, and, you know, I don't normally follow Grace Randolph or anything like that. But I will, if she's even remotely close to write a. about something near a Bozeman situation. I would hope that we are in a place now

where people learned from that and would leave people alone and let them deal with things and stuff that's going on, especially if anything starts to come out about anything to immediately back off and just chill. It's not that serious. Clearly, whatever they're dealing with the series, but getting your movie faster is not that serious.

The second part is I totally understand why Jeff was going off, but I also push back on that a little bit and that that is unfortunately what a lot of movie news has become has been the speculations and the rumors and things like that. And we know people take stuff out of context and just take headline and sound bites versus really looking into full quotes, context, all that kind of stuff. So it's something that we have all agreed across all media needs to be adjusted, but it's just something that's going on. And then third of all, if Reeves is out, I would make the argument that this iteration, this world is gone. I don't think it would make sense to try and replace anybody, to try and pull anything like that

this was clearly his baby, his vision. It'd be like trying to do the Dark Knight trilogy without Nolan. That's not a thing. I don't care how good of actors you have and follow up people and people that corrode with them, that it was fully his vision, his thing. and it's not going to lead to anything good. So if he needs to step away, then as sad as it would be,

I think that we got one hell of a detective Batman movie. It doesn't mean we can't have another one, but this iteration, I think, is done. Yeah, Coy, I know we've kind of not seen the, we haven't been on the same page with this in general, I think, because the way that I look at it right now, look, I love Matt Reeves. I think he's a brilliant filmmaker.

I loved the Batman movie. I thought it was great. I think we're running into a blade situation here. I think we're running into one. Like it's not in the way, not in the way that they just don't have their stuff together with script and all that. I just mean with the fact that it's like, well,

we're shooting now and now we're shooting this and now we're doing this. And the problem is that the DCU needs Batman. I mean, they need them. And if they are waiting for the next, the Batman 2 to come out, they don't want that to come out before or is in the same range. that article is not wrong we're probably looking at another three to four years before we see batman again in the cinematic universe whatever you can say coy say it

my hot take is superman has never been the leading force cinematically since 78 and i think this is an opportunity to let the other giant Titan of DC actually shine. I don't think Matt Reeves Batman has anything to do with their not being a movement on the Batman, Brave and the Bold, publicly or privately, to my knowledge, I don't have any Batman knowledge that isn't public in this moment, but I do know that it is the summer of Superman. It's March. So April. It's April right now. Superman days around the corner. The Superman movies around the corner is coming out in July. I personally, if I was James, Peter, or anyone wouldn't be trying to talk about Batman

when every single comic fan goes, oh yeah, Batman and Friends, DC Comics. Like, Detective Comics is what DC is named after. It's usually like 10 Batman titles to every one or two Superman titles. Personally, I think they're just trying to make sure that people realize that it's not Batman and Friends, the studio. So I think, like you, it's just said with Superman, that being their front-loading device, I don't think they should even discuss Batman, whether they are. are or not until Superman is out. So I think they delayed the Batman movie because of stuff

that's real life, not fiction, and that has caused Pattinson to be taking on other projects, but all of those projects still line up to do the Batman in the winter going into next year. So I think this is a matter of the Odyssey headlines came out. People saw that Pattinson was potentially going to be in both the Odyssey and Doom 3 and then we're like, how can you do it all? And it's like, well, filming a month each is how he does it all. It's not that complicated. So I think this became a bigger story than it actually is. But even if that's not the case, I don't think you talk about Batman until like October earliest because you want July to be Superman.

Yeah. Well, I wouldn't real quick. Once I wouldn't say October, I don't disagree. I think what, let's, I would say August. And I'll tell you why. Because Clayface is not too far out from starting and doing all that stuff too. And there's a good shot that Batman. could debut in that movie.

And that'd be cool. What a different way to do it. And it could reveal in that movie. And I think Mike made that point yesterday on the show. And that's something to me that you need to have an idea of where he is in that world at some point. But I don't disagree that you got to see what your big movie is going to do first. Because if nobody cares about this universe, it's like a television pilot, really. It really is. It's like, okay, hey, we put this pilot out.

Nobody watch it. Are we going to make episode two? No. It's not even an episode two. It's like, hey, we're thinking about this spinoff over here. And it's like, bro, I didn't even like the first 10 minutes of the show. I don't care about a spinoff. Right. So it's like you have to, you really have to pay attention. And they are. That's exactly what they're doing. It's they're definitely having these conversations about what is happening. And it's the same way, but different in when we were covering all this stuff when Safran and Gunn took over. When they took over, the DCE, you were still going on and questions of what are you going to do with gal Gadot? What are you going to do with Jason Momoa?

What are you going to do with Ezra Miller? What are you going to do with everybody? And the answer was every time, well, we'll keep the door open. We'll keep the door open and we'll see. What that meant, again, was let's see how they do in the theater. If they do well, we're going to have a problem, but we hope they do well because we're company players. But if they do well, we're going to have a problem because they're probably going to have

to incorporate them because it means you guys still want to see them. But if they don't do well, then we don't have to worry about it. Then all those doors will be shut. We won't say that publicly, but all those doors will be shut. And what happened? All those doors were shut except, Momoa, they said, well, it's not shut. Just walk through that one instead. And that's essentially what happened.

And that's probably the same type of conversation. They have these things on the wall and they go, okay, if that happens, then we need to do that. If that happens, though, we're going to have to do that. And unfortunately, if that happens, we're going to have to do that. And I also want to speak to the fact that James Gunn has been very publicly open about wanting these different movies to feel like they're all getting their own creative vision. They're all getting their own time to shine. That the shared universe idea is not going to be as strict with this.

Like the fact that we have Clayface, Sergeant Rock, Superman, Supergirls. Superman and Supergirl have a through line, seemingly, I assume. But like it is very intentionally a movie that is like reading comic books where you can pick up one, you can pick up another. You can see the tie-ins, but they're not going to be like Marvel where it's like this. So I think that's the best place for something like the Batman, too. The Penguin, they advertised heavily because there was like as DC Studios was coming together. So I think all the people that are like, well, James only wants one Batman according to who.

Right. Yeah. It's not, it's nothing that he has said publicly of that, of that. He's implied the opposite. Pretty heavily, you know, so I, yeah, I don't think that that's really what's going on. I just genuinely think it's the duel of what is going on of what James said. I'm not green lighting or moving anything until the scripts are set and we feel good about it and like this is going to be something quality and we're going to go forward. And then I think the other hand is exactly that.

We have a essentially billion dollar franchise right here. Why would we let that go unless we really can't make it happen? And again, if there's something personal going on with Matt, then that's a pretty real reason to not go forward. It's true. You know, I made this point a little while ago and it's so funny how we have turned like for some reason. the billion dollar movie is a measure of success like this comment right why didn't that happen after the flop of man of steel man of steel made 670 million dollars it was well it's also revisionist history because it didn't make a billion people think it's a flop that's not that movie's not a

flop it was because all the marvel movies and everything was making these massive big numbers and it didn't make you know what um what was the yeah it was the first one out the gate right the and so that that's what we're saying so like well that flopped how come the DCU didn't die because it made $670 million. It also had Chris Nolan on board. It didn't hit the numbers that they wanted. They wanted to hit Marvel numbers, but it didn't hit that. So, but what they did do instead.

It was the fourth highest grossing film that year. It was a huge number. It was a huge number. And, but what it did, though, because they, the studio fell into the same pocket that that guy fell into. And they said, oh, it didn't make a billion. We got to put them with Batman. Put him with Batman.

Don't build up. Batman v. Superman. Let's do that. Don't build it up. And then the whole thing started to fall on itself because they didn't wait. They weren't patient. And I think guns going to be patient. And that's what you need to do.

So, all right. Well, that was, yeah. Time out. I apologize. That was domestic. It was ninth worldwide, which is still. It's a matter. It's a minute.

Iron Man 3 made 1.2? Wow. I didn't know. Holy crap. I didn't know. Right, but that's, but that's why back then, I remember that. I remember clear his day. I remember people like, oh, it's disappointing.

It only made that, that amount of money. It's like, it made $670 million. It made more than for the dark world. That's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. All right. What do you guys think about all this stuff going on with Matt Reeves, Batman? Your thoughts have to be heard.

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You can stop complaining about the time codes, and you can just go on over to the Clips Channel and watch the show through clips. There you go. It's just the Christian Arnold's Clips Channel. Simple. Easy. Another story we talked about yesterday. We're going to talk about it again because he's talking about it again. 1923 star Brendan Scunar talks about Batman once again. And he also talked about his favorite bat actor. Now, I have a feeling he's going to say Val Kilmer. I've not read this article. I'm a feeling he's going to say Val Kilmer because it's, you know, just that we've lost Val. Maybe not. Brendan Scunar is added again expressing his desire to play Batman as well as his respect for the character. But this time he reveals who his favorite in incarnation of Batman on the big screen is.

Brandon Schenar is arguably the most fancast, common fan cast for Batman in the DCU. Alan Richardson also wants to play Batman. He's close behind him. Skunar seems to be the most popular choice. Scunar is also known for his role in Vice. Really? Oh, well, he's going to say, Bill, then.

I didn't even know he was in Vice. I don't remember him in Vice. What was he in Vice? Oh, wow. Look it up. Yeah, let me know who he played in Vice. I loved Vice. As well as his role in 1 in 1923.

92. That would be a very different series. He'd be wearing sandals in a robe. Oh, it was Bobby Prentice? Okay. A spinoff of Yellowstone, and now he's starring in Drop. Once again, an interview with the Hollywood Reporter, Sklnar has commented on this desire to play Batman in the DCU.

Scunar has clearly put a lot of thought into how he would portray the Dark Night. He recognizes a huge differences between the various of screen iterations of the character when different actors take the role. He wants to put his own thoughts and ideas into the character. He said every actor that has played that role is a different incarnation of Bruce. Wayne Batman. If you compare Christian Bales to Robert Pattinson's, it couldn't be any, it couldn't be anywhere different. I have my own idea on the character. If ever comes to fruition, he was my favorite comic book character as a child and he's superior because he's a real man.

He's just really hurting and reeling from the death of his parents. And Batman is his way of coping. So I think there's a lot more to explore there. And there's a way to make it seem very real. Sounds like Scar does truly understand the character. His description of Batman is a coping mechanism for Bruce Wayne to deal with the loss of his parents, spot on. despite all the awesome gadgets and vehicles, which makes Batman interesting character, is the fact that he's a flawed copying mechanism gone too far. Skra also want to comment on both Patinson and Bail's takes on the character. He gave a lot of praise to Pattinson's iteration, but admitted that Bail is his all-time favorite.

Well, that's kind of biased, but I understand. But I also agree, so shut up me. I've honestly enjoyed every incarnation of Batman, but Christian was my favorite. I do love what Rob is doing with it now. It's a really bold choice, and Rob is just an incredible actor and just. general. So whatever comes around, I would gladly take the torch and I would not take it lightly. Just a few days again, Scler was talking with Screameran about his desire to play Batman. He was surprised and honored. He said, I mean for Batman, let's keep running with that.

That's something I wanted to do since I was a little kid. I've never ever talked about it. I just started happening. I was like, this is cool. Now maybe hopefully one day this will happen. He also hinted inside of that, that that might have been, that DC was aware and whatnot. I've been talking about this so it blew in the face. Apparently, Snyder said there's no way it's going to happen. again, love Jeff, but there's times that he's been dead on about casting. Those are the times he's been wrong. I don't even think he said the cornswept was going to be cast.

So who knows? Maybe he did. He very well could have. I don't know. But I think that, you know, if James Gunn's watched in 1923, then I, if he is, if he's watching 1923, I think the guy gets cast. I think that I watched, this is what I said yesterday about it, guys. If you go and you watch the new movie that came out, drop, you can see what he will

as Bruce Wayne. If you watch 1923, you'll see what he can do as Batman. So, um, Coy, you have now heard, this is what I wonder. And I don't know if you can, when you guys talk on, I guess you can talk about with your host, you can tell me this is the thing. When you guys are talking about the stuff that's going on with DC and everything too, has his name popped up in the same way that like, you know, a Jensen Eccles and those guys, has his name been talked about? You know, what's funny is, is this question right here ties directly into the Superman thing? We haven't talked about Batman very much because we've been like inundated with being excited for Superman. So in the first batch of, and I'll be totally honest, in the first batch of filming, which was a while

ago, there was the Jensenackles conversation. There was all the like general excitement. But in the last two, in the last like three months, it's been Superman. So I don't know this dude. So I wouldn't have brought him up because it doesn't really relate to my take on Batman. but I can honestly say I haven't heard anything about Brendan Sclanar, but only because it's been Superman-centric. Winston, so, I mean, because neither you guys are really familiar. We've talked about them before. You guys just aren't familiar with him, minus vice we just talked about. But yeah, Winston, you hear about this?

And I think someone said in the comment section that a lot of times, if someone's campaigning for it, hard for them to get the role. He's been, he's been campaigning for it. But he campaigning for it, not in a way that he was like, hey, you know what? I'd love to do. I'd love to play Batman. It's because people would be like, this guy would be great for Batman and people have been asking him about it in interviews. So he's like, yeah, sure, you know, this is what I would do if I was in it. And so he's taking the moment, he's not like running around and, hey, you know what? I want to talk about Batman. He's like, he's asked about it. And he's actually showing the audience that he knows what he's

talking about when it comes to it. So what do you make of the comments and what do you think, you kind of going off of course says it does go back to our previous conversation. We're not to know who the hell Batman is for at least a year or more, right? No, we're not going to know for a while. Look, you vouch for him for all the stuff that you've seen him in. You tend to be pretty good at casting. I have long since learned to shut the F up forever when I'm like, I don't know about that. And you're like, okay, let me tell you like three, four movies.

This dude is actually pretty firing ever since the patents and day. So I got to, you know, let that go. But I think he's just doing exactly what every actor is supposed to. to do in their press. And there's something honestly very refreshing. It reminds me a lot of Cavill where Cavill will sit there and just have a nerdy-ass conversation. You ask him a question.

He wants to answer it. There's plenty of people that get in interviews and they don't. But if you ask him, he'd be like, yeah, let's play the game. Okay, bet. And that's what it sounds like Brandon was doing. Someone was like, you're rumored to be Batman. And he's like, dope. Let me tell you what I feel about Batman.

He just sounds like he's doing a very good job of being engaged in his interviews. and until we hear a legitimate thing of like, a, oh, this is happening. I think it's just fun to speculate, but there's nothing that put your hat on. No, it's exactly. And someone made the point. I think Snyder said this,

which I do agree with is that if you're talking about it, talking every time it's like, this is what I would do openly. It means you haven't had conversations about it because you'd be quiet about it. You'd have to shut up. You'd be quiet about it. So he's just going with the fact,

like he even said with Ash, when Ash, he's like, yeah, the Batman thing, let's talk about it. Let's go with that. That's great. Yeah,

If people want it, I'm down. I'll tell you what I'll do. This is what I said yesterday and what I'll end it with. Whether he gets this or not, someone's going to get this guy in a big movie. He's going to be cast in something huge. It's just a matter of what it's going to be, whether it's this or something, this, this is the next, this guy is the next movie star. Yeah.

And whether he gets this or not because of all these conversations, journalists are getting the clicks they want. And we are talking about a dude that I didn't know before. Right. And that's, and that's the public, that's what the publicist likes anyway. The public is the agent. That's why they do this stuff, and that's why they say to him, look, we get you this role. It'd be great.

Someone asked you about it. Talk about it a lot. Because what you just said, people keep discussing the guy and people know his name now. And if you've never seen him before. And I saw people in the comments. I mean, one of our daily comics, Alex yesterday was like, I heard you guys talking about it so much. I went and watched 1923 to see. And he's like, and then he said, I see him as Batman.

He came out at CinemaCon. And it was him, Amanda Seyfried and Sidney, who are both like, you know, all of three feet tall. And so he looked like this giant, like they're both. And it was so funny because when he came out, I hadn't seen anything. I was like, oh, there's that Batman guy, Christians talking about. Right, right. And that's, but that's what is going on. So we'll see.

We'll see. Whether or not he gets it, who knows. But as Koi said, people are learning the name. I'll tell you what people learn the name for about a second. And then they just said, nah, I'm good. and that's Captain America, Brave New World. They went, saw, some of us saw it, and then some of us said, well, wait for it to come out on digital. Well, it's going to be on digital.

I think it already is on digital, coming out pretty soon. Well, the writer, Rob Edwards, was talking about the reshoots and everything else, too. We'll see if we'll see what he says about these reshoots in this article. Captain America, Brave New World. Rob Edwards talks reshoots and Sam Wilson's MCU Future. Captain America, Brave New World writer Rob Edwards. talks to us about the King of Kings reflecting on his MCU appearance, the movies reshoots, writing Red Hulk,

and Sam Wilson's Avengers Doomsday Roll. Rob Everidge wrote animated classics like Treasure Island and the Princess and the Frog before making a leap to the MCU for Captain America, Brave New World. His newest movie is Angel Studios King of Kings, and we recently had the good fortune to sit down with Rob and learn more about telling that epic story, as well as explaining how his past work prepared him for the project.

He told us about the incredible cast and how animation was used to bring his script to life. Talk did eventually turn to Captain America, Brave New World, and we wondered how the writer felt about the changes made to the story during reshoots. He said, look, it's part of the process. There's this wealth of there's so many comic books, so many thoughts. Everything takes these different roads, and at the end, you just have to make some choices. And not all the choices are easy, and you just hope to wind up with the best movie, and I think we did.

When we put it to him that it might have been a blast writing Harrison Ford as a Red Hulk, he replied, what a year, right? Oscar Isaac, Ben Kingsley, Harrison Ford, Anthony, Anthony, Mackey. That's phenomenal. Captain America, Brave New World, uh, ended by setting the stage for Sam Wilson to lead the Avengers and we wondered what Edwards hopes to see from New Cap in next year's Doomsday. He said he's Captain American now, so arguably he's running the show. I think that's the next step. I'm guessing as a fan, but I think that's where you go with Doomsday. You recreate the Avengers as was suggested in the movie. I'm on for the ride now. I can't wait for the next one. Um,

and then there's more, there's more that goes down with, but less about the Marvel stuff in his new movie. You can check out the article on commonbook movie.com. There's really not a lot here with this. About the reach. It's like, that happens. Very good company answer. Very good company answer. The guy wants to work again. So he said, hey, happens.

Sometimes you get what you want. And we had to do a movie. You hope you get the best thing. And I think we did. What's the next question? I was like, and if I'm his publicist, you know what I'm saying? Excellent job. Excellent job.

You don't get you don't you don't get anybody mad at you. You got a phone call of let's see that article. What did he say? All right. Yeah. Is he available next month? Like that's what happens. That's how it happens.

So, Coy, what do you make of this coming? You feel the same? I feel like, you know, movies, I always say movies are a miracle they exist at all. I thought cap four was adequate and that's not a fun word to use,

but I didn't think it was the worst thing. I didn't think it was the greatest thing, but it was fine. And I hope that. someone that had clearly as much passion as he did for the character, like his interviews are more interesting to me than a lot of parts of the movie gets to work again. And I think this is I have to navigate the game at this level when you're working

the studio system. So I think he did a great job dancing. Winston? Spotlights on, man. And everybody watching. Just smile and wave. You know, it's the hunger games out here.

All of the, all of the people at District 1 are just watching you, what you're going to do, what you're going to say. And he did exactly what he needed to do so he can keep on dancing and make it to the next round like you just do your thing man you think that's what that's what he did so but he guys making the comments man do you think um you know that he could have said more he should have said more to give the perfect answer for what is happening as far as the avengers and as far as as captain america goes yeah we think we all kind of know that that's where they're going he's

going to lead the avengers we know that it looks like it's going to be avengers exman it's kevin it's kevin like he said there's going to be a bunch of different teams going after doom so we'll see how that plays out. There was an article that came out on comic book movie about the DCEU. And this will be the last thing we talk about before moving to the questions. But I thought there was an interesting article because it started to make me think, okay, well then where are we going to go? Stop that. Where are we going to go if we like these ideas? Are they going to actually potentially bring these along? And the awesome DC EU movies that were in the works before the DC you reboot and comic book movies Josh Wilding writes when DC Studios was formed, several DCEU movies

were scrapped by co-CEO's James Gunn, Peter Safran from Wonder Woman 3 to Batman Beyond and Crisis on Infinity Earth. These could have been awesome. The DC extended universe wasn't exactly a success, though it would be wrong to say that it didn't deliver some good stories in box office hits. Still, something needed to change. That's why DC Studios was formed at the end of 2023. Over the past two years, we've seen the DCU slowly start to take shape. Superman will kick things off properly this summer. Creature Commandos gave us a taste of what's to come and beyond, and the slate is mostly shaping up to be in equal parts intriguing and exciting.

However, when DC Studios decided to take these characters back to the drawing board, there were some casualties. James Gunn has enlisted many of his friends to reprise their respective DC roles, but with a fresh star on the horizon, many ideas and movies were scrapped. So let's take a look. This one, clearly probably not going to happen. That's Batman Beyond. Michael Keaton was going to return in the, he returned to the flash, but they had been plans for his dark night.

Beyond that, he was set to have a part in Batgirl and even shot a cameo for Aquaman and Lost Kingdom, with him established as the DCE's new permanent Cape Crusader. All this was going to culminate with a Batman Beyond movie, Harley Quinn Bird's a prey writer. Christina Hodson was pending the screenplay and with Pattinson playing Bruce Wayne and Matt Reeves, the Batman franchise. The idea was to have the DCEU's Batman pass the mantle to Terry McGinnis. as if a Batman movie wasn't, Batman Beyond movie wasn't a perfect way

to end Keaton's tenure as this iconic character. One idea considered for the project was his Bruce Wayne to rekindle, his romance was Michelle Pfeiffer's Selena, that would have been pretty awesome. But I just can't do that again. Wonder Woman 3, we knew, one of the most high profile casualties of DC Studios

formation was Wonder Woman 3. Gal Godot insisted she'll reprise the role with Diana Prince, but reliable insiders claim otherwise, and Gunn, who was quick to debunk even the most minor rumors remain silent about the situation. It's obvious now that Godot's time as Wonder Woman is over and that Wonder Woman 3 in any form will no longer happen. Man of Steel 2, that was potentially going to happen.

There's an idea of confusion surrounding when all this plans changed. Wherever we know Black Adam started, Dwayne Johnson was responsible for going around. Walter Hermata to bring Henry Cabell back to Superman. That happened before Black Adams released with the actors back in the fold. Warner Brothers started mulling over Man of Steel two ideas and he was doing interviews about him and all that. Superman versus Black Adam. another one. Dwayne Johnson quite fancy building the DCE around himself and Black Adam, knowing that he's throwing Cabell's

Manas and Marwan's in the mix would help with that. Had he got in his way, Black Adam was going to be followed by Manistiel 2 and Black Adam 2 and then the eventual face off, which would have included Shazam in any way, shape, or form, which wouldn't have, given Johnson's apparently disdain for the character. Batgirl, which we also know. Bat girl had almost finished a shooting. They had helmed Bad Boys for Life

and episodes of Ms. Marvel for studios beforehand And it got caught up in a change of regime And they cut it for tax purposes This one, J.J. Abrams, Justice League Dark, A Justice League Dark project Had been in the works at Warner Bros. for years. However, Star Wars arises Skywalker, J.J. Abram Ultimately tasked with taking charge of a slate of projects

revolving around the supernatural superhero team. We'll see if that would have a crisis on infinity Infinite Earths, while Johnson has led us to believe that he was solely responsible for Cavill's Superman return in Black Adam. That isn't strictly true. Yes, he made it sound like there was no other choice than to go around the studio brass to make it happen, but Walter Armada had his own important plans for Man of Steel, where the Flash would end with Superman being written out of reality and replaced by Supergirl. The end game was for Cavill to make his grand return in crisis on Infinite Earths would have been a welcome back or permanent farewell. Cavill even shot a cameo

on the flash that inserted him back into the DCEU. And then Justice League two, of course, is the last one. So a lot of these, when you hear that, you know, these that they put, the only one, and you guys can tell me if I'm wrong or right than this, that I think could, well, two of them, actually, two that I think that potentially could still happen, depending on how they built it up. And same conversation we had before, varying on successes of how the future properties do, crisis on infinite earth, I assume, is something that could happen.

I don't know the story well enough. You guys can tell maybe they're just don't. It's multiverses and stuff, so maybe not. And the other one is the Justice League dark. Is that right? So that one is potential. And then maybe even Justice League, once you've, in like five to ten years from now, once you build up all the characters.

So those, I think, are all possible. The other ones with Galgado, obviously, is not going to happen. Henry Cavill's Manist Steel not going to happen. The Michael Keaton's stuff, not going to happen. But Winston, you hear these, are you in the same page with me or is there no way that you can do a crisis on infinite earth? No, you can do crisis. I mean, crisis is essentially to oversimplify is DCU's Secret Wars. It's the idea that you're having also kind of incursions happening.

There's a cosmic evil force behind it that's trying to collapse all universes. It was another way for, and, you know, Coy obviously can correct me to kind of reset DC continuity, give you a big kind of send-off moment, etc. etc. So you very much could. I mean, I don't know if there's, I understand TV and movies are different. I don't know if there's as quite a, quite a rush. Is it similar what they're doing with Doom though? I mean, more or less, yes. Again, with Secret Wars, it's taking all of the different iterations, mashing them together and then having one final farewell to everything.

So like, I say all that to say, because you just did crisis two times, both as an animated series of movies, but then you did it via like the Aeroverse where you brought in, you know, people both involved in the shows in like Smallville and in some of the movies. Like you already had Brandon Roth in the Aroverse, but he reprised his role as Superman from Superman Returns and that and all that kind of stuff. You kind of had that happen. And I see that being lower on the priority scale when you're just trying to build stuff out anyway. I think Justice League Dark is a good chance because it's something that we really haven't got a chance. to see we haven't seen constantine since reeves did it right so we want to see what you're doing here plus a lot of other fun characters like satana involved and stuff like that i don't know if you

get michael keaton for batman beyond but people have been clamoring for batman beyond for a while so i am not saying i could see them also figuring something like that out but maybe you just don't involve keaton maybe you i don't know that is the rare way you get afflick to come back or you get bail or something like that athlete's done there's not he's not coming back but uh but coy and i guess another one is potentially obviously with the buildup their avengers is justice league so eventually i assume once you set up batman once you set up everybody like i said it's you're five to 10 years away from it if you do it right but what do you think about this list and you think is there anything that they'll they'll they could revisit but you're muted buddy you're muted coin i think uh you know one

roman three is and obviously an out but i think the rest are all various levels of possibility for their storytelling like these are all based on comic books that are being adapted, I would say sensibility-wise, Justice League Dark is very much HBO, HBO Max, Creature Commando, you know, Supernatural Swamp Thing, stuff that we see DC doing differently than Marvel is. Like, we started with a TVMA show. We've got an R-rated movie. We've got all these things on the docket that have been announced to R-rated movies. So I think Justice League Dark is more likely under the new era because they tried to get that made for like a decade at the DC-EU. And I think that's a possibility. I want it real bad.

also think that Batman Beyond is one of those things that is a good fan fervor that is also a not quite deep cut anymore. It's pretty surface. But like James Gunn loves to have the characters that are just left of center get their time to shine. So Batman Beyond feels like, you know, an option. So to me, there's a few of these that that could happen. And I think crisis would be like, you know, 20 years down the line when the next iteration of reboots is happening and you want to bring in everything in the one last ride. Yeah. So there you go. This is a cool list. I think kind of book movie.com, you can check that list out and tell us what you guys think and what movies could happen, not happen. Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. All right, we're going to get to your questions.

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We're going to get into these questions right now. And you guys have a lot going on in your channels. Before we do that, I want to talk to you. I want to give you guys make sure that you're following Winston and Coy. Winston, what's going on in the channel? Absolutely. You can find me at the Swaggy Blurton all platforms. I'm having a really good time hanging with you guys on Sundays.

We've been doing some streaming together there. I've got some stuff popping off this particular. particular week as far as recaps and and Blurt Breakdown, but I'm very excited that over with Roka on Tuesday, we will be reviving spill the tequila. We had some technical difficulties this week, so we're going this coming Tuesday. So definitely check all that out. And again, follow me on social media and you'll know when stuff is popping off. Coy, Chandra, what's going on on the channel, man? So I'm right there at 45K. I'm literally at 44-8. I'm so close to 45. So jump over there. I'm back to talking comics every single week.

starting this upcoming week, also reviewing all the big movies, also doing the Daredevil finale and every week of Daredevil. But I'm also going to be covering Last of Us and and or season two. So branching out of just purely superhero stuff and genre stuff in general. All of that, plus I just did a bunch of red carpet stuff at cinema con with The Hager Porter. So if you want to see me talking to Chris Pratt, John Brimth, Chris Hemsworth, Halliberry, lots of superhero folk and other roles. You can also check it out over there. And then, of course, all the stuff at Real Rejects. But my page, my page is where I do the most comic stuff. So please, if you love the comic books themselves, help me down at Koi Jondro. Check them out, both. Show them to support. All right, let's get into these questions.

Okay, as I said yesterday, I think that Steph and Mike were like 32, 33 when we started. You guys are currently at 39, 39 going into the questions. So can you take them out at what I say, 126? That's what I said. So let's see. Shea Markell, is Captain Jack Sparrow one of the best characters ever put to film? I'm feeling like he is. What's another iconic role like that? Scarface, Tony S. I mean, the Joker from for sure. Heath Leather, he's Heath Ledger's Joker for sure. I think that he's an iconic character. For sure, Captain, Captain Jack Sparrow, for sure. You go Ripley.

Ripley's a good one too. Yeah. I mean, Han Solo, you know, Luke Skywalker. I mean, truly, there's a reason why these movies did as big as they what they did. Ryan Reynolds is Deadpool. I like it was, it really was kind of perfect casting, really did a great job of like bringing the character to life. If you're talking about just a film character

period, then I would actually go Gus Fring. I know that's more TV. They did do, they did have, you know, the film spinoff. I'm going to go Godfather too, right? I'm going to Godfather too, right? I mean, this, this ton.

I mean, there's so many. I mean, taxi driver, tons, tons. And then Shea follows it up. Jack Sparrow is either an extremely unlucky idiot or a really eccentric Kaiser Soze. Kaiser Soze. Which is that prefer to be the truth. I prefer the latter.

I would say the latter. I'd say more of an eccentric Kaiser Sozze, but not as evil. Yeah, I think he proved that he had some of this stuff planned more than he he he showed that he was playing the fool yeah it's i mean it's also just the idea of of i don't know if you guys are ever read the 48 laws of power he it feels like jack sparrow was following every single law and so you're always caught off guard by the fact that oh he pulled that off what the hell yeah because it was like coi said it was he was he was planned yeah she also says the dirty comp that leads the task force on dare double he also plays a cop on the mayor

Kingstown with Jeremy Renner and he's just great and that role also he's so good he he's like he he he reminds me of every person I remember with the high school with that guy's a really good actor and he and I totally believe him in that role he's great he's great um yeah really he's pretty awesome Miguel Zane do you think that Ryan Cougar's gonna do Black Panther three next if he does I hope he brings again brings back k dot Rihanna for a soundtrack that only makes sense given the status of Laura right now until Olympics in LA 2028. I'm going to have a hot take here.

I think he is going to do it. I don't want him to. And I'll tell you why. I just saw sinners and I loved it. Love that movie so much. I want to see him do more stuff that's new stuff. Give me new stuff. Ryan Kugler is that guy where you're like, oh, new Ryan Kugler's movies coming out.

He's that guy. and I love what he's done with the Black Panther franchise. But I think it's time in the same way he moved off of the free. Look, I like what Stephen did for the second movie, but I still wish Ryan Gouldo would do the second one. But he didn't. He moved on. He did Black Panther.

I don't want to see him do the third one, but I do think you will. But Corey, what do you think? You think he's going to do the next one? I mean, we have those Denzel quotes, right? So I think he's pretty confirmed. I also think that, you know, I agree with what you're saying with a side of I love that Nolan got a full trilogy and then and he did his own stuff in between young and he's young and he's a child and a black

panther three gets him five more paychecks for his blank checks to make sinners I think it will I'm gonna say we lose two years of uh you know studio system to give him 20 years it's a good point it's a really good point um when so young like that's that's the thing he's so young so by all means finish out your trilogy finish out your trilogy i don't think winston listens to us sometimes i listen to you but i'm saying he's so young i know you did bitch man um it's a noble idea it's a great idea from winston did you ever watch pooty tang uh no that's that's louis c did that one right he he wrote it it was uh a chris rock character from the from like the chris rock show I did a full thing.

And it's literally one of Chris Rock's characters is always explaining something. And then his, like, so, Coy will be like, man, it's so hot outside right now in the valley. It's like, it's like, 102 degrees, man. It's crazy. I'm sweating, like, great. The humidity is insane. I'm dying out here. It's so hot.

And then his friend or me would go, yeah, and it's hot out here, too. Like, that's literally the same. Exactly. 100%. You've been consistent. Miguel Vane. Let's say that Denise and Nolan are the top two filmmakers right now. Who do you think are just in the near bottom?

Cougler, Matt Reeves. Thanks, y'all. I would definitely, I mean, well, let's not forget Interatu, for sure. He's up there. You've also got Alfonso Coran is another one. And he's incredible. And he's apparently going to do, and they're just talking about him for Bond. It's exciting.

He hasn't done a movie in quite a while. But, yeah, Coogler for sure. I mean, as far as event movies go, like Jordan Peel's getting up there as far as event movies, like when he's making movies for sure. As far as he's making more studio kind of fun horror films than I think like the, you know, the, well, I would like to see him do a drama. I'd like to see him do like a full on drama and see how it does. He usually does horror thrillers.

He, he sticks to the drama stuff more in a producer element and like, and also like TV shows. Otherwise, if it's filmmaking, he's been pretty. clear that he really wants to stick to horror thriller that's that's that's that's where he enjoys himself so so yeah i i i would like to see it i don't know if he will i'll also always see anything fincher ever does or gets announced on uh and i want to give some love to sotaburg and alex garland for like if they are on it i'm there yeah that's a good one too uh harrison martin what is your guess for the titles of the next two films in the spider-man day trilogy mine are independence day and May Day.

Boy knows who May Day is. You know, I don't know if they're going to do the trilogy day thing, but it'd be very, really interesting of Dooms Day becomes the first day, like Dooms Day into Brand New Day, because they've already done one more day. Mayday is the daughter, who I originally thought that we might have the girl from strangers playing. But I do feel like they're not going to do that trilogy where you're trapped in a title. I think they might actually start, like, doing comic titles as this trilogy,

which is what I hope they do. Chris Crosson. Who do you think would be a good replacement for Muscietti if he ends up leaving the brave and the bold? I would suggest Mike Flanagan is an option since Gunn loves his clay face script and he's great director. Go Winston and Coy. I don't have an answer for that because I don't know what kind of tone they're going for. That's the other reason that to go against my pick on Brendan Schenor. If they're going for 45, 50 year old Batman, he's too young.

He's 32, 33, whatever he is. He's too young. So I don't know what they're going for. I don't know the tone they're going for. I have no idea. So it's hard for me to say what director and what take because I just know what tone they're going for. Yeah. If I knew anything about the tone, I would point in a direction.

I just know, you know, it's not likely to be the Matt Reeves tone because they'd want to do something different. So that's the only marker I have. But otherwise, I'd have to see. And we don't know the tone, too. Perfect. Right. 100%. Chris Maynir.

To clarify my comment yesterday, me saying it's creepy is not about the possible Convo gun and Reeves may have had. What I meant is it's creepy how similar the Reeves situation is mirroring the Snyder situation. I understand what you mean. Again, we still don't really necessarily know the details of it, right? Like, you know, what an unfortunate, horrendous, unfortunate situation that was. And we don't know.

We don't know the details of it. We don't know what's going to come out. And as we said in yesterday's show, I really do think that that's Reeves, his prerogative of either letting us know what that situation is today or never. It's his. It's not for us to speculate. It's not for us to talk about.

If it's something personal like that, too, it's not for us to even discuss. So we'll see how that goes. Corey, you got that mustache going on like Serino de Bergerac today. I like it. Okay. Connor Mollis, I love when quirky and Wilson are on the show. It's a quirky mustache.

Yeah. Connor, Mullis. Gentlemen, I have jury duty this week. It wasn't awful, but I would have rather just gone to work. Have you guys had jury dirty? Yeah, before I left a couple of months before, I mean, I didn't get called on. I got very close. I was like, oh, no, I'm going to be here.

Oh, no, no, no. And then I got, and then it was, it was Dunsky. So having in quite a bit. You guys? Two years in a row I got the had to call. I thought there was a gap, but it literally happened. So I think there was a glitch where I got it twice in a row,

but it hasn't been in like two years now. Okay. I've been, I've gotten the summons, but like both times I'd never had to actually go in. So the one thing that kind of sucks, especially in our field with doing that, a lot of your shit is gig work.

So all of a sudden you're just kind of screwed. It's tough. Yeah. I was like trying to think who's going to host, who's going to, let's say it's, it's tough. Connor, oh, it's going for you, Winston. Winston, are you excited for the Dodgers? Oh, it's the Dodgers, big Dodgers guy here, Winston. Winston.

Yeah, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, love, man. Mm-hmm, yeah. Sean McKeigh. Happy Friday. Always a pleasure to see you. Thank you, Sean. Same to you. We had a great live stream yesterday for members only, and plus great people who were on there, too.

It was good to have everybody. Micah Claiborne. Hey, Coy, I just wanted to say thank you for helping me, get into comics. I recently picked up All-Star Superman, Batman, Court of Owls, and Hush, you're an inspiration. Thank you for everything that you stand for and represent. Look at that, Corey. See? There's good people on some social. You know, I appreciate you guys being here because I can't read Twitter anymore, so thank you. Dude, those are three great, like, all-timer picks. Like, that's a great foundation. I love to see that some of my ranting has translated to anyone

picking up a comic. And I really appreciate it. I think we're heading into it a very interesting summer of people just you know we've been angry for a long time culturally and and a lot of it's for a lot of good reasons and i think uh i i hope we turn the corner into hope at least for a moment with some great dc stuff i really want some joy out of this this conversation so i appreciate that fingers crossed uh go pal one time they tried to put me on a latin king's triple murder jury in trenton oh my god i panicked they went full nullification to get excused yeah that's wow that's that's the part that's always so crazy is we need people to be on said juries, but at the same time, bro, I don't want to be anywhere near that. Oh, oh my God. Until that, super, I haven't even thought about anything like

that. I had somebody that was caught up in a cop, a cop killing a, like a driver situation. A friend of mine was on that court case. She was like, oh, yeah, it was terrible bad, because there's helicopters into the actual audience. She's like, I don't, this is all. I don't like this. Understood. Legend M. 700. Happy Friday. Go Mariners.

Sure. Connor Mullis. Dude, my cat effing hates Mike. Every time he started talking yesterday, my cat starts swatting the screen and hissing at him. If that is true, Connor, you have to. You have to record that next time and send it. I will play that on this show.

all of the time. That'll be a new button like mustard. Cock? No, no, no. No. Cat. Cat. Cat.

So, yes, I will absolutely 100% play that. Please, Connor. If that's true, please, next show, do that. Okay. Next one after that. And we're going to get casual fandom to Batman. Same time isn't confusing for casual, so they don't care about universes

that go to see the new Batman movie and Affleck played Batman before and after Patents and with no effect to use box office. And not really. That's, I don't know, I don't actually agree with that at all. I think that if you're, if you're trying to get,

because they're going to choose which one. And those Batman ones were not, were so far apart, the ones that did well were so far apart. Flesh didn't do very well. That's the closest one to it. That was he was in there. What movie was close?

I'm talking about when you, when you're that close. You can do the, If you're going to do the Batman, part two, today on 2025, and then release the new Batman in 2027, 2028, sure. Sure. You can get around the casual viewers. If you're going to release a movie in 2026 and then six months later, a new one,

no, that's confusing. Very confusing. And I disagree with you. I would disagree with you until I dropped dead because that's not, I couldn't disagree with that comment more. I appreciate the comment, but I would but I disagree with it thoroughly and it don't make sense too that's right see how many times you can do that uh legend m m 600 pants streetbiker ha ha jeans for the most of us

i don't get it no i don't understand that one it's a quote from something but i'm not getting what it is um michael claiborne christian the other day i randomly remembered your trials and tribulations with the squirrels yeah those that was before even i think your guys time is that where the the The squirrels and the Shmo's, when I lived in my old place, I had these really rotten squirrels that lived right outside. One of them snuck into the house one time and was ripping shit up and the other ones. They were dicks. They were real dicks.

And so much so that when I moved to the new place, they're going that you guys used to come to, I was just ready for some shit with the squirrels. But the scrolls are nice there. They weren't bad. There are nothing. I didn't have any problem with the scrolls. But the squirrels are terrible. Devante Brown.

What's up, man? in Deer Devil season three, Matt got evidence to prove Vanessa had Agent Ray Nadine killed. He has an agreement with Fist to keep her out of prison. Is that true? Yeah, that is. I want to just want to reason three for the first time. That's exactly why he has Okay. Okay. It's been a long time. Thank you. That's great to know. Devante, you should be on this show. It's it's both why he doesn't out him, but why he also has not attacked Foggy or Karen. That's the truth. Got it. So that's, So that okay now it all makes sense go pal what's the deal with vehicle

valteran did they just find another Japanese show and put the name on it I don't know vehicle Voltron I don't know that is I don't know that a lion's their vehicles yeah I'm not sure I don't know enough about it but this is not on anything to do with this question quite I didn't really get your you love sinners as much as I do oh dude so like the fact that the music is used the way it is and the like anchor of that movie's emotion is so beautiful i loved it do and it you can feel that a studio that hadn't seen his other work wouldn't have let him have that much leash it felt like an indie film with a hundred million dollar budget like it felt so punk rock and like alice

rodriguez yeah it did it was like 90 million dollars by the way and used every penny wisely it's it really is it's my favorite movie the year so far uh number two it's it's like but i have a you know Jack Wade and I love Novakane. I haven't seen that one yet. Rocky McFly. I know you said you can't do extended cuts of Lord of the Rings with Sam because it's too hard to schedule a time for that long of a movie. Follows it up and says, maybe you could split the sessions up though and have it break when the extended cuts break on the Blu-rays and then combine that into one video.

Maybe this is a stupid suggestion though. It's not a stupid suggestion. My concern with it is this because I've thought about that. My concern is that if I combine it into one video, Sam is very much like she's in it. So I love watching something. She is in it. So if I break it up and go, okay, well, then we're going to watch the next two hours in when are you available again? Oh, in three days. So you got to wait for three days to watch one movie, not the next movie, the same movie.

So I just want to finish the movie. But we're so far away from that because I am, there's certain shows that we're still going to watch on the MCU. There's ones that I thought maybe we won't, but I'm going to give it a shot anyway and see. I don't know. but we're we just finished like we just put up falcon and winter soldier today um luke had said hey you know you guys should probably do captain america because it's coming out on on digital now but we're not even close to cut up with that so um i think i'm even going to wait for that because and so much today i should so this is what i have on the back burner which i've been building stuff up i kind of took a page

out of gregg's book and i have the i've i had never really seen Final Destination, the first one. I think I'd seen bits and pieces of the first one. But I watched the first one with Tina. I watched the second one with Tina. We're going to watch the third. And then I'm going to start releasing them leading up to the new one. Dude, I'm so jealous of your journey.

I love those movies so much. And then Sadie and I watched Step Brothers. She had never seen Step Brothers before. So we watched that. And then today, Sadie and I watched the pilot episode of The Sopranos, because she has never seen that. I've never seen The Sopranos either. I know.

That one. You have to hold that and then Rocky. But then the other one, one, and then we're going to do legally blonde, because I've never seen that. You've never seen legally blonde, my guy? Oh, dude, that movie is. You're at every single person on this show, you're not allowed to say that. No, no, no, no, no, only because that movie is fantastic.

I'm sure it is. And a house full of women. I'm surprised that one of your little girl, your wife has not been like, you may see this. They have, and, you know, I've done, I'm going upstairs. They have. Absolutely done that. My oldest has seen it. I have not.

But I told me, my wife, she watched Team America with me. I'm going to watch that with her. John Bean, VOD. Star Wars horror movie apparently in the works,

according to Tony Gilroy via Business Insider. He also said he'd be interesting doing it, thoughts. If they get him, great. But I said,

this is my text to change with Luke when he sent this to me. And people are going to, I really don't care. People give me shit for it. I don't care. This was the exchange with Luke as he sent this to me.

He says me, and her creator, Tony Garoy says Disney is a Star Wars project that works, to which I wrote, blah. And he goes, yeah, I know. And I said, who cares? And because it's not who cares, it's not who cares as far as like it doesn't sound cool. Sounds great. Will it happen? Who knows? If Tony Gilroy said, I'm doing this.

It's going into production. I would be psyched. I believe that that's going to happen as much as I believe that I'm going to win the, the, the, the, the, the, mega millions in five minutes from I don't trust anything that they say they're going to do. They're full of shit. So, yeah, there's, if it, if it eventually happens, hypothetically, if Tony Gilroy actually does a Star Wars horror movie, would I be interested in it if it was going in?

Yes, I think that would be amazing. Armada. Jennifer Coolidge was a funny part of the Minecraft for me. It's funny. She was my least favorite part. Did you guys see Minecraft? It's doing gangbusters, though. I'm that is an understatement.

I can't believe how good that that movie is doing, dude. It's like right. That movie's probably going to drop. I've made 300 million worldwide. It'll probably be close to like 600 at least by the end of this weekend. I'm going to react to it because it's like it's a fascinating cultural. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Easily get to react to those.

That's it. Yeah, that's probably a good idea. Probably really good idea. DC Kagami. If Reeves can't direct the movie, could he possibly find a replacement and stay on his writer producer I don't think you want to do that though and I think it'd take too long I think that well Corey go ahead you were gonna say them I was gonna say that I think this is too much of his baby

that it would be hard to see someone else do the work but it's also like whatever is happening it's his life and that's got to take precedent over you know whatever this is so I would want if you know this doesn't happen for him to be able to focus on what he needs to focus on whatever that is Winston he should focus on family too perfect he'd make dates support follows up that was support. Connor says, Coy,

could you see gun green lighting a section 8 series? Seems right up his alley. I want to see Dogwell to go to town. Tell Christian that is. That is a deep cut, sir. This is a tiny team out of the Irish district in Buffalo. This is the one property that I actually do know.

I know Section 8. I know it fondly. That's amazing. That's a lie. Okay. So Christian's got the gets me to believe stuff. thing. Winston has the repeat what Chris and I have just got sports

I've got the mustache. You have the mustache. Yeah, section 8 is a fantastic Irish district of Gotham. Dogwelder is a Steve Dylan created character who's iconic for the Punisher art. It's a really fun take on like street level hoodlums and hoods that get these crazy situations. I would love to see a guy Richie S. Gotham story, but for like the Irish, that sounds delightful. Yes.

Is it essentially mystery men? Effectively. Because the leader's six-pack, the team leader whose special ability is grotesch drunkenness and beating villains off with broken liquor bottles. Beating them off. Let's not beat them off. Draw Riles. Maybe filming Batman 2 and 3 together, reason for the delay?

I wish. I wish. But no, I don't believe that's true. But I wish. Mike Joyce, who's worse now? Gun Bros. or Snyder Bros. You know, again, it's, I think the answer to that question, Mike, is fandom. is worse now i love fans and hate fanatics uh that's my that's my yeah the answer is there's neither

all that's like trying to the coy will get this one that's like trying to compare you know the chiefs after they won their second super bowl to the patriots it's like okay you've won two let's give it some time to really compare like the gun bros have been around for a minor bit of time at this point so it's it to me it's just weird oh shit like when it comes to like really like people who are like when i say that when it comes to like death threats or not doing you're like even that stupid exchange last week when when like you know the more this shit house rat tweets and the fact that i don't ever respond to this stuff but like i had i had said that the way i have concern about the dog we'll see what happens how they play crypto out i have

no i don't have enough reference into it but it's my number one most anticipated movie of the year and this idiot face magoo is out there saying like well boomers don't understand it it's always guys like this who don't we're gonna you're gonna hate on the movie because you hate these see and it's like you fucking moron do you're not even listening you got to listen you got to have the debate i'm okay with saying i saw a lot of very intelligent conversation in that from from good people who are like hey look you know it's kind of representative of like what dog owners have to go through and this and that that's a good point okay great but just it's just this weirdo shit that goes on with fandom sometimes like they feel like they're protecting like a base i still can't get over the

fact that they attacked coy for agatha all along that oh yeah right yeah it's not one side of the aisle it's the entire like the people who are like the you know stake the flag in the ground where the righteous oh look at us look at look at we you don't like you don't like uh acolyte you racist boom you don't like this you massageness boom it's like fuck off it's like people can just not like things or like things because they like things. I will tell you this much because I remember having a long debate with with Roka about the whole like Caitlin Clark Angel Reese situation last year. I know that for some situations it's because it's tied to other stuff but at the same time I need people to just take a deep breath and take a step back and actually look at what's coming out of people's mouths because

people tried to say that I'm a race trader because I didn't like Captain America Brave New World which is oh my god. That's I mean it's like it's nuts. It's just weird Oh shit Mick Horn Hey pals How brilliant is the Energon universe? Incredible.

So good. Christian's favorite comic in years. No idea what that is. I'll fall for it twice. It's really good. The Floyd rivals is I think especially incredible. It's Kirkman over an image doing it And it's fantastic.

Pretty good. Let's see. Draw rivals. Does anyone have a stronger first five films than Ryan? I mean, maybe maybe Nolan no one no one probably nolin i'd say Nolan dene but enemy i didn't love as much so i think i think no one and cougler spielberg that guy did some good stuff work baby i mean

there are quite the answers is quite a few people who have right now really good five films but this guy doesn't miss and i will say that people are like my my least favorite film of Ryan Cooleer is Black Panther 2. That's my least favorite film. But, and I always follow this up with, what he had to work with and the time that he had to work with and what he had to deal with and making that film goes to show how great a filmmaker is.

I was writing a completely different movie and putting together a completely different movie when his friend and his lead actor pastel. And he had to fire one out and make one in two years. So. Yeah. I mean, I think. That and the fact that like even if you didn't, it wasn't your favorite, I don't think you would in any way, shape, or form say it was a bad movie.

You would say it was a good movie. It just wasn't great. No, and what do you accomplish? And again, what did he accomplished in the amount of time that he did kind of shows what a great filmmaker is? Armada. Maybe Saffron wants D.C. to only have one Batman. It's, like I said, it's that boardroom meeting where they have to see what happens.

You've got to figure out what's going on with Superman for it before you make. I will just tell you this. I won't be surprised if Superman is like a 700 to a billion dollar hit and then they say that Batman 2 isn't happening. That wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me. All right. Next one after that is B-Town. Best show of the week. Let's go. Thank you, B-Town. What do you guys think the odds are Batinson merging with the DCU if Reeves does leave the project? That's another interesting question. That's another interesting question. I don't know. I personally don't think that's the tone they'd want because they'd be associated with the old tone, but I don't know. I want to see a Batman that is like, you know, the blue and gray tights and where crypto makes sense and the Justice League tone.

And that's a lot of the stuff. I think a lot of Batman fans want to see. It's really interesting. It's actually kind of ironic that a lot of loud Batman fans want to see the more surreal and supernatural stuff. Meanwhile, we put out a big, flashy Superman, and there's so much vitriol for it. It's interesting. I know a lot of people that want bat shark repellent, you know, we'll see if we get that.

Chips, Beery, who says, do you guys really think they are dumping else worlds for DC? There were three different Batman in the 90s. At the same time? Over the course. And he said Keaton was 92 and 95 was three years.

And it wasn't. And they were all, like, the difference there is like, they were all kind of a part of the same. Right, that's right. Val Kilmer was a sequel to... The actor that played Alfred was the same.

Right, and that was confusing people also, is that they had, there was, it was, I remember people being confused. Like, wait a minute, oh, so he's actually, the events that happened in the first Tim Burton film did actually happen, and it was confusing. But, yeah, it was. But people didn't care because it was a brand new film, and they messed that whole thing up by changing it up the way that they did. So it wasn't really the same Batman at the same time.

So, but anyway, he said there were at least three different Batman in the 90s. audiences ain't that stupid they'll get it that's also very different than we are running different continuities at the same time that's where you're going to trip people up it's not that's that's exactly there was no shared universes back then uh coy talk to gun get him to keep else worlds i think that you know they i think that they'll be able to still throw things in there they have else worlds in case a situation like this happens they're also developing an elseworld's logo we've talked about like james gun loves that kind of you won't get rid of that go pal i just saw g20 with viola davis last night it's perfectly adequate but she's good enough that she got me to cry a

couple of times i'd go fresh but barely which one is that i haven't heard of that i feel like i had heard about what number we at christian uh currently at 53 you guys need about oh she out here with with more toned arms than than christian she looked and she could she would have won the punch of machine okay you need about 70 you know 70 to in about a half an hour go pal also I realized after last week show that Adelaide Kane did Wondergirl at Sandieo comicon not Powergirls is that really a character or just a cosplay uh Wondergirl's a character she's a wonder woman character she's a new a new iteration power girls different character altogether the mohap social club I think we should be less worried about the Batman casting give me a low budget to press

watching Tom King, Mr. Miracle movie, introducing the new gods. I've been pushing that since 2019 with Jake Gyllenhaal. I've been trying. Is that true? Yeah, I literally have been, like, actively trying to get that made since the interview with Jake. Someone told me that those comic book shopping videos had since jumped to almost a million views. Is that true?

They do great now that, you know, the internet caught up to the thing I was trying to make happen. Yeah. Sorry, sorry to bring up a source, but. I'll print it. announce this as big balls. Coy, what's some Fantastic Four and Daredevil comics that are your favorites? The new Ryan North run a Fantastic Four, the Mike Ringer run, Fantastic Four,

the Jonathan Hickman run a Fantastic Four, Daredevil, Chip Siddarski's No Fear. The run after that with Chipsedarsky, the Charles Sol run that introduced news with Ron Garnie on art, Kevin Smith's Guardian Devil, and Frank Miller's first two arcs. What's the recent one where he like kind of comes back? from the dead and is like running the hand oh uh that is the dark rain run which is i think they're adapting for season two dude bro that the lie the cold ass line he has against the u.s. soldier uh hippo nipple what happens when an anchor being dies of old age i think that's when the universe is naturally meant to meet its end that like concept would be

like that's the that's the end of that but i love that question i love positing it good question yeah uh the sink lord i think that people don't want like the daredevil show because there's hardly any daredevil in it we get the reborn retired aspect put them in the suit it's been in it it took a bit they're doing three seasons and it was like a lead up to it it's like everybody wants everything so fast in the same thing i've seen the first three episodes of and or season two or first two and i can already hear people who do much talking they're talking too much too much talking and it's like let things build you got to see him in the suit you saw him in the suit for three seasons

The storyline is him getting there. You need to have some patience, too. 100%. I mean we've got some paper. Best one yet. Joel Familia. Hey, guys, what do you think about the DC comics? Absolute comics, dominating the top 10 in sales from March.

Thanks! They're worthy. Those books are exceptional. Me and Winston talked a lot about them. I think it's the best jumping on point in a long time for any comics. And they're these incredibly important characters that I think a lot of people hadn't connected to in a long time. getting a new generation. So it's it feels like the Iron Man 08 movie but for comics.

Bro, the the recent stuff with his friends being real big mad at him to Batman. I'm not going to say anything more than that, but you know what I'm talking about. It's great. Yeah. Brooklyn. What thoughts on Magneto leading the brotherhood along with his children and then teaming with Doom who's been in the void and them going after the TVA? I just don't think they're going to. Oh, Magneto, I guess classic Magneto, Ian McDermin,

Ian McDermott. Ian McKeownan. Dermynne. Ian McGerman comes in and goes, we need to go and take on doom. Me and you and the rest of the avenges must go down. Dermann McKellen. Yeah, 100%. I don't know. What do you guys think about that?

I think that that would confuse, that I think might confuse audiences because the Miracle Children versus Mutant stuff. but I'd love to see stuff and stuff get reconed with with Wanda and Quicksilver. Hell yeah. Yeah. I mean, the only other thing is, look,

you give Magneto any sort of premise of I can bring more mutants back. He's going to be like, yeah, okay, bet. So if Doom is promising him, you know, all those mutants that have been killed,

I got you, bro. He was like, all right, bet. So I can see you. Eric Escado. Hey,

guys, Schnapp used to go ultra sweaty over a pitch of Fantastic 4 that Peyton Reed made. It was very similar to what we're getting, was his idea stolen stolen? I don't know, it was stolen because he probably would say something, but maybe he was part of the pitch ideas. Maybe he's got a, you know,

maybe he's got something involved. He's very involved in Marvel. He was the, it was between him and gun to get Guardians of the Galaxy, by the way. Yeah, I feel like Peyton is just like a rider die nerd and a lot of times. Like I was pitching a 60s Fantastic Four movie like 10 years ago as a way to make that character work in a new era of Marvel.

And I was thinking phase three, they should bring it in. So I think there's just some linear thoughts where it's like, oh, that would work. 54 at the moment. Can you guys get pushed out to make a huge comeback here and take out Steph and Mike with about 20 minutes left to go? You're going to have to start climbing back. Haskell. Yo.

Coy, did you get banned from X2? I did less for. No, I'm banned myself. I'm basically taking all the apps off my phone and I'm only going to use them on my computer. and then I'm going to use YouTube. If you want to talk to me, use my YouTube because that helps my algorithm. I have no benefit of being on social media except for disliking people. How long?

Hey, I'm just going to talk to you for a second. How long have I been telling you this? You know what's funny is there was a pretty phone where you're like doing monthly challenges. And I was like, do I just wait for Christian to give me the excuse? But wait, how long have I been telling you to do exactly what you just said? Yeah. Uh, 2023 or 2022? I'd say even maybe before that.

Around the time when we started, probably before, but around the time when we started doing the rewatches. Yeah. So he's probably right. He's probably right, 21, 22. I was like, please stop this. I just want to love love again. I just want to know joy.

You. I am a massive fan of your fiancee because she's definitely. She's so good for me. Alex, really hope that if Soup Girl, I'm just in that mood today, guys, does well. they can set it films for Bat Girl and Nightwing.

The Bat family can't come fast enough. Who from the Rogues Gallery do you want to be the villain and braven the bowl? Who are you got? I want a legitimate freeze. I appreciate what Schwarzenegger did, but that

and Ivy, honestly, they don't need to, you can pick either one, but they both just obviously were overdone. And I love seeing what we got to re-invision with Two-Face again, I liked Tommy Lee Jones, but I liked what we got to see with Aaron Al-Kart. I wish we got more.

I like to see the reinvention we got of the Ridler, and that was a little more grounded as well. So I would love to get both freeze and Poison Ivy at some point as legit villains of how they are portrayed, because both of their stories are tragic. Like, they're almost anti-heroes at times, even though, you know, they're just

looking out for being wronged. I'd love to see either of those as the main villain and the background Ville and be a Rashaul done like comic accurate for tying into Damien Wayne. I think it'd be cool to have like, I mean, Batman Begins did it great, but it was a while ago and it wasn't like the most comic thing. So I'd love to see like the ghoul world. And then I would I would adore poison ivy.

I think that's my number one. Are you killing? I was real quick. I was just explaining to, because I joke with Christian, with Kristen all the time that she's kind of poison ivy with the amount of plants we have in the house. And I kind of told her story. She's like, so she's just a woman who's right and no one wants to believe her? And I was like, yeah, pretty much.

Her poison ivy comic is so good because it's just her being like, why does everyone hate me? I'm trying to save the planet. Oh, right, the murders. Go, pal. Next week, all of Winston's lines will be, damn, shit. That's whack. Great movie. Shout out to Sam, man.

Tyler B. Any update on When Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man Season 2 will come out. Just finish season one. It's not my favorite Spider-Man story. You know what's so funny is that Koi and Winston have told me about that you've got to get on it. So you tried hard to get me to watch it. I do need to get on it. Eventually, I will.

Um, there's going to be a time where my, my wife is taking my, my wife is taking my kids on vacation. I'm going to stay back here and work. And I will probably, that's one of the things I'll probably watch. I think it's this same time next year, uh, because I know they'd worked on it already. All right. Well, there you go. Edward Collins too. You're going to see warfare.

My favorite of the year. I was so, I missed my screening on Wednesday night. It was so bum. It was literally on the way to go see it. And I went back. I had to go back home, but I was on my way back to see it. Um, I will see it event eventually. I want to. I'm part of my leaving social media or distancing myself is I'm trying to find fuel that's positive.

Like I'm trying to like go to the gym and not need to rage at people and I'm trying to like, but the movies like warfare really affect me like civil war messed me up. So I'm trying to gauge my tolerance for the world. Yeah, I understand that. Chris Bench. Can you watch Invincible with Sam? Plus you missed the three Kaiser sit the Kaiser Soze moment after watching season three made Derr Devil Blade for me. I missed the Kaiser Sosei moment.

Invincible? I'm not sure what he means. But, um... You watch Invincible with Sam. Plus you missed the Kaiser Sose moment. Moment. What moment? I thought we mentioned Kaiser Soze at one point.

I don't know what he means. After watching season three, making Daredevil Blade for me. Um, no, I'm not going to watch Invincible with Sam because I'll tell you, a squid game really, not the show itself, but trying to do those reactions kind of rub me the wrong way. I said that that's not working. I watch an old season of a show. And that's why I'm trying just the pilot of Sopranos, and that's it.

And if it does well, it does well. But I tried to do a show that was popular in season one with Squid Game. Nobody gave a shit because I barely even got 3,000 views. And I was like, no, I'm not doing this. So I'm not going to, the invincible's been out already. I'm not doing it. I'm really serious to your Sopranos does because I've never seen it. That'd be fun to.

Oh, you've never seen it either. Wow. You'd love that show, Coy. Wow. The Connor Mullis. the cat thing is 100% true. I will try to record it, but I normally am working on Thursdays with my account and I'll try my best.

You take that day off from work. You hear me? 100%. I got to get that video. Very important. We'll play it on it. It'll live in infamy forever, Connor. Alex, fandom has definitely changed.

I remember in high school running a live journal fan page for Smallville, never was there virtual there is now. Yeah, it's like a thing to be, it's like, and it also, it's like sex cells will hate cells now. It's also. And back then we were all just happy. happy to have Smallville. We were just happy that it existed. Now everyone wants to be right about their character instead of enjoy their character. I still stand by that, sure, we've all been

kind of fed enough poison now that we react that way. But there's something very true to the idea of algorithms and people, in nefariously getting us lit like this. That is really what's at the core of it. I don't truly believe that people are this hateful about this stuff. I think that we're all just constantly being manipulated to be so. Maybe both. Matt Thomas, Harlef, got to give Kevin Smith respect for launching the first successful cinematic universe

with the U.S. universe in the 90s, Nucci Beach, 100%. He will not accept credit. He will not accept credit. All the time, and he will be like,

well, you know, and then they put him in Captain Marvel. And I was like, that's them giving you credit. And he's still like, well, you know.

I love, I love his shared universe because I would be watching it. I would go, oh, Rick Derris, he brought up. They're in front of the terrace. Perfect terrace.

They can do that. It was the most innocuous stuff. I'd be like, they can. What's your favorite? What's your favorite, uh, view of skew film? Morrots.

Moritz. Mallrats for both of you. Yeah. It's probably either dogma for me or because my, my initial intro was Jane Silent Bob strike back and then I went back and watch this whole catalog. Starting with his crazy move. John McCabe.

Glad there are veterans like Ray Mendoza getting into Hollywood. My biggest pet feet. is messing up simple stuff like uniforms and dialogue i mean i could definitely understand that if you veteran probably very keen looking at that stuff i completely understand that uh driles pretty sure mr negative is the villain for sp right oh okay it's being rumored right now i think so uh i think that would make no sense tying to the comic books it would also be a good villain for his mental state being alone it would also be an interesting villain that would tie into what i think they want to try to do with multiverse stuff um okay so let's see

This is what people, this is a good question, actually. Very good question and how would people know this, right? So it's good. I'm glad I can explain this. CJ, I'm fine with you not reacting to all the MCU shows Christian, but just for those who want you to react to all the shows, what's the minimum views they would need to reach for it to be worth for you? Okay, so this is how it works, right?

In any in any business or anything to you got to make sure that whatever your cost is on something, that you, the goal is that you exceed that cost, right? But at least in the very way we talk about, we talk about box, office all the time. If a box office budget is this, you want to at least make that, right? Let's say I pay for my editors and Sam. I want to at least make that in order to do that. If I don't, then it is a waste of time and effort money that I can be putting somewhere else, that we can continue to do this more. So the answer is, I would say anywhere between 15 to 20,000 to 20,000 Maybe even if some of the episodes were doing, if I did like Moon Night and Moon Night was doing like 10 to 12,000 an episode, like, okay, we can we can push forward and do it probably still wouldn't. I'd probably still be at a loss, but I still would be like, okay.

But it's minimal enough than you feel like it would grow things out because that the bare minimum, you're telling me if you're not making your costs, there needs to be some sort of benefit. And if it's like all of a sudden, it's still growing the channel. If it's still growing and people are, I mean, like I emphasize it all the time. It is so important for people to comment. and like and do that stuff because that's what lets the algorithm go, oh, I just had this conversation on a friend of mine who's asking me about how this business works, right? It's like, and I tell Winston and Coyne that sometimes it's schedule-wise and they just can't do it. But I always say there's a trailer that comes out that you want to see. Like if Tron came out, it is not beneficial for you guys to review Tron three days later after it comes out. You can do it, but you're not going to see success with it because you're going to get buried in

that algorithm. Your best chance, if you know Tron Legacy is coming out of the trailer, you drop that trailer the second it comes out because before real rejects or anybody else because the algorithm has been trained that that that's what that channel does that's what those channels do they do reactions like my out of theater reactions i've been doing out of the theater long enough my out of the theater reactions get pushed up top when i do them because i do them often so if you're going to do an out of the theory reaction do it before i get mine up there because when i do it my is going to push you down not because the subscribers and everything else too because the algorithm has been trained so when you comment and you like and you do that and you interact that is what helps the algorithm go

oh they like when you do this so like right now winter soldier the falcon and winter soldier i tell you right now did way better than i thought i was going to do i thought falcon and winter soldier was going to do like eight to nine thousand an episode it's probably doing pretty well to the great american brave new world right now 100% um Alex Christian thank you for being consideredite which you reconsider watching miss marvel at sam thank you for your consideration uh you know alice actually did considerate that today because of the success of of of winter soldier i was like okay you know what maybe what i'll try to do is knock out like because i like that show i just don't know how people are going to respond to it so maybe i try you know a few episodes to see what we do

i'm not sure you i mean the other thing to go back to the question when people were asking you, even if it's not something that you're super into, like, you're like, I don't really want to watch Squig game with them again, because I've already seen it like five times. Then if you want Christian to keep doing those small

independent ones, then put it on in the background somewhere or go in the comment on every one of them just to help the algorithm in that regard. I think what I'm going to do that, because I said I would do the whole season, but it's just it really, it costs me money. Have the editors added them? And like, I thought they'd deal this to like 10,000.

I think I'm going to watch the first two seasons of Squidgrain by myself, and then I'll try to react to the third one when it's relevant. And that's what I'm going to do. Chris Bench, can we get Mark Ellis on his show? Yeah, we've been, he and I actually was texting with him today. He'll be on. It is a matter of we got to find out when, but he'll be on. Epsilon Audio, rank these Spider-Man villains you want to see in the movie that we haven't seen.

Hobgoblin, Craven, Mr. Negative, Camillion, Jackal, much love. Poor, poor Craven. We haven't seen Craven. Or communion. I'm going to go Hobgoblin because I think the goblins are fascinating and they have so much lore. I want Jonathan Tucker as Hobgoblin. And then I'm a big fan of chamele. I think he's really useful somatically.

Then I'm going to go Jackal because I'm a clone saga defender, Craven Mr. Negative. But Mr. Negative is coming. So that's my order. I probably go Mr. Negative, Camillion, Craven, Hobgoblin, Jackal. Who's Mr. Negative? Is that Twitter? It's me. The sink lord.

Hey, Luke, you need to do a favor. Luke, you have to time code that right now. I just wanted that sign bite of Winston doing whatever noise that was. That's something. The sync lord, support. Let's go and hit that number. Still not good enough. 62.

Yeah, it's going to be tough. I think my stuff might have it this week, but that's all right. Yeah, that's it for now. That was it. That was the last one. So right now, what was this? Squid game season's out in June. Yeah.

So you know what? Maybe I'll watch that. maybe I'll watch the season and then I'll do the reactions in June. So I got two months to finish both seasons. Probably a good idea. Plenty of time. You'll be all right. So far, season two is pretty short.

All right. Let's get the smell out of here. So we got, um, Coy real quick again, where can I find you? Uh, have me down at Coy Johnro on YouTube. Also every other week on Max on DC Studio Showcase. Also at Real Rejects.

Also very, very happily here every Friday. It was actually, it was funny. I was looking because, uh, Every month I look back at like my schedule and I was only here two weeks in March and like two weeks in February. And this month I'm home and I'm like happy to be here. So yeah, I'm happy to have you too. But to answer previous question, that's good for my budget. Winston.

You can find me at the Swaggy Blurred on all platforms. Again, this Sunday I will be streaming again, hanging out with you guys. I'm going to be doing a lot of Marvel rivals on Sunday just because they started season two. We're getting Emma Frost, man. looks like she's going to be a Titan. I think Christian just burped through my promo. I did that by accident and realized. I thought I'm immune myself.

I got mad at myself when I just did that on mute. I apologize. So yeah, that's pretty much it. I mean, I'm done now. You don't broke my train of concentration. Pete Chetty, I think your squid game reactions would do better if you watch the dub version. As far as dub goes, it.

I can't. I can't do it. I have to watch subtitles. I can't do dub version. CJ, thank you people, don't seem to understand, but hopefully now they do. It's business and pleasure. 100%. I mean, that's what it is.

It really is about both. You got to sustain it as an actual business. Thanks for joining us here today. I appreciate it. I'm going to have an immediate reaction, social reaction of Last of Us, season two, episode one out today, most likely. So look for that. I'm going to have my full reaction of that show up on Sunday.

I'm going to have the full winner soldier, a falcona winner soldier. a Falcon and Winter Soldier one through six full super episode Lord of the Ring style that's going to be out tomorrow we got tons of stuff going on out of the podcast Spotify Sun Tzu finishes and says hey guys who do you think we'll play the adult Frank

Franklin Richards I like Timothy but I'm kind of shalamed out Franklin Richard Well that's a fun pick if he wasn't everywhere Yeah Franklin which is who again I'm sorry The son of Reading Sue Oh yes yes yes yes yes yeah no no no Timothy for that one I'd like I'd like to see him do other stuff also And I like to see him do other stuff too.

Right. Wow. All right. So thank you for being here. Now I take the apology back for the burp. So thank you, everyone. I appreciate you all. And we'll see you guys on Monday.

I really appreciate Winston and Koi being here. Master. 100%. We'll see you guys later.