The Kristian Harloff Show - RELAX! James Gunn responds to the Superman reshoots reports! | DC | DCU

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

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yes there are reshoots and we'll discuss it and he explains exactly why so he's a director that is being celebrated for everything that he's been doing you know who's a director that should have been celebrated and the golden globes prove what a goofy organization they are Deny Villeneuve doesn't get nominated for dude. Bo. Princess Bride. Bo. Your whole organization and your awards thing is a joke.

Bo. So stupid. To anyone, to not, the fact that he does not get nominated is the stupidest thing. And that, and I've always not minded the Golden Globes. Goofball show is what that is. And we'll discuss that and more. It's myself and John Rocha here today on the show. Join us. We got more to talk about and was talking about the box office and what happened and all that and more.

So that's it. Christian Harleff Show. Let's do it. Welcome back to the show, everybody. Thanks for being here today. Bye. Show a little clash jump right off the window. Perfect. You knew that was going to happen. Joining me on the show is John Roker. Perfect. That's like when when Raym Stereo fell off the back of the thing. Nothing but the best set designers.

Nothing but the best pros building your studio, by the way. Ever. Anyway, so there you go. And then I've got my glass that fell somewhere. But we got more stuff to talk about. But your theory was proven to be piss last week. You said a single person. Which one?

I've got like 10 every week. Which one? You said a single person couldn't win the contest. Well, Roxy did it last week. I thought Roxy was on with McCouga. Wasn't showing him to be on with McCougar? She was supposed to be on with McCougar, but he didn't show up. He wasn't able to show up.

Wow. Not only because of his kid. He wasn't that he was. Well, yeah. So it was just him. It was him by himself. Her by herself. Respect.

And then Steph couldn't do it. Steph got wrecked last week. That was the first one she ever got. And Winston and Coy got very close, but they did not do it. So let's see if you can. Really, Coy's on the new DC show. You would think that would put them. I would think with million, being on a YouTube channel with a million subscribers,

being on your channel with 150,000 subscribers, being on a new DC show, which is getting a lot of buzz. attention i don't understand why i quite can't win every week it's it's a little shocking to me and you've got the black boat with winston a marshal so to me i think you've locked up all the sections i don't understand uh 168 000 okay so let's uh oh excuse me 160 but you got a lot it's funny he's working on um the we have that clips channel that put up and uap channel is doing pretty good and matt sarah we just started kind of putting stuff out in his channel we just launched a clip on matt sarah's channel but we just launched a clip on matt sarah's channel but

where Frank Mier was talking about the Brock Lesnar fight. And it's doing pretty well. It did over like 40,000. Nice. So it's doing good. People still have interest in that crazy dude. Oh, Frank Mere? No, I'm talking.

Oh, Brock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was talking about the, about just that in general, but you told a great story about his wife. His wife was pissed. And rightfully so, when you listen to him, I get why, but he was basically the extent of the clip is that his wife was furious because Mier at the time was a former,

UFC heavyweight champion it was Brock Bessner's first fight at the UFC. And Mir entered first. Oh, that was an insult. Right. And Frank was like, you know, it is what it is. She was pissed. And you know, by the,

when you really look at it, I understand both sides of it. I understand why you'd be upset with it. Because, you know, this is the former UFC champion. He was kind of like an up and down thing. They probably like, we're sending them in to get slaughtered you know um so and then brocks the draw you know exactly so

you get it but it's like it's you you could i would not i do not fault her for being upset yeah yeah so um that that and that clips on there he's he's great to listen to both of those guys i was in awe dude i was sitting right where i'm sitting now and matt was over there and they're talking and I'm just like listening to these two jih Tjitsu like masters talking it was it was pretty awesome yeah well guys have been in the trenches the guys have been in battle whether it's on a actual battlefield or in a ring they're fascinating to listen to because they're speaking about an experience that 95% of the world will never experience and they speak about it so knowledgeably and so insider baseballery that you're just like so caught up in it because you're getting the analysis

that you're not going to necessarily get on TV or any place else, and it's fascinating. Pretty crazy. Pretty crazy. So anyway, so we have a lot to discuss here, John, and as I was going through it,

because Luke and I were going around this morning, we're thinking about which topics. He helps me with the topics. Nice. And he had suggested a couple. I'm like, I don't know, I don't know,

and then the Golden Globes. I said, you won't cover it, but I don't know if I want to lead with it. And, you know, we haven't talked about this reshoot stuff. Oh, yeah.

And people are making such a thing about this reshoot stuff. And so, I wanted to bring it up, and so we will. And here it is. This is the story. I stick to it. James Gunn, he responds to Superman movie shoots, reports, and being explains what exactly will be filmed, screen ran.

DC Studio Co. CEO, James Gunn responded to fan concerns regarding reports that his film Superman is undergoing reshoes. Set for release on July 11th, the movie stars David Cornswit, Rachel Brosnahan, Nicholas Holt, Edie Getherberg, Frank Grillo, and Nathan Phileon, among others. Superman will be the debut film of the DC Universe, a new continuity held by Gunn and Peter Saffron after the DC Extended Universe franchise was canceled. Recently, the Holly Reporter shared the production would be refilming in Los Angeles this week. As a result, a fan reached out to Gunn on threads to verify the news, to which you see that thread there. James Gunn says,

sort of, not a few days. We're doing a day and a half of pickup shots. No scenes, no reshoots, just a handful of individual shots to enhance the film. Per gun, the rumors are sort of true, but the reports are missing context and exaggerating by referring to the film as lasting a few days. The director explained, we're doing a day and a half of pickup shots, yada, yada. What James Gunn's filming comments mean is, again, more or less stated,

filming additional pickup shots is not the same as redoing portions of Superman. There is no cause for alarm because the need for pickup shots usually indicates more of a need to smooth out the final cut of the film. Moreover, these kinds of shoots are much less involved in standard filming. And yeah, yeah, I don't know because it's really analyze these comments. And that's what we're going to do. Yeah. Okay.

This is a, this is, there's two types of reactions to reshoots that are valid. And there's ones that are ridiculous. Okay. These land in the ridiculous. Which ones? This reaction or the people's. No, the people's reactions. Okay.

To the fact that Superman's getting reshoots. Oh my God. See, it's not as perfect as you think. There was a, when I released Frank Grillo's clip of him talking about the Superman trailer and then some bozo wrote on the comments like, oh, if it was so good, why did you have to go back and get your notes and you have to reshoot the whole thing? And it's like, that's just people not listening to what's being said. There are time. You agree, whether you're agreeing with me right now or not, but you will agree that every. film inside of their budgets are all there's always reshoots every single time James Gunn is the as I said to Frank Grillo he is the studio notes normally the

director will have to go okay here's my cut and I'll go hey we don't like this this this this or this can you do this we shoot that do that he didn't have to do that except when he's watching it over as a creative he probably goes you know it will really work here a shot of so-and-so doing this and this do we have it we don't have have it can we get it probably how long would it take us day day and a half all right so what do we need we need this this doesn't this and that it only takes like a day and a half to fill those little things in like those are the things i'm imagining and those are the things i need to like smooth it out now if it was like oh this entire scene is weighing down the film we need like three weeks to

smooth this whole thing out then you can go okay still not catastrophe but you say okay that that might never really hurt the film if they didn't change it. So I think this is a big fat nothing burger. What do you think? I think there's more nuance here to dissect. And the reason I bring this up is because we talked about it on the hot mic and some of these people commented on the hot mic as if like we don't know how filmmaking is done, which cracks me up these people thinking they know more than Jeff and I about filmmaking. But the thing that we were trying to stress, and at least I was trying to stress with my point of view, and hopefully I can stress, it even more strongly this time around is that reshoots are standard on all the big movies.

So it's no surprise that there might be reshoots or whatever he's claiming they are. My issue comes with a little bit of James Gunn's hubris around this, right? When he was asked about reshoots a few months ago, he goes, I don't think there'll be a need for it. I've only done one reshoot on my last two films. And then when he was asked why, he delivered this six-point plan where he somehow who had figured out filmmaking beyond any other filmmaker, which means he could never do reshoots or he would never need to do reshoots.

Or if he does, it's like a pickup shot like he's claiming. So to me, I think he got caught yet again in a little bit of his hubris. And I think that's where people are more coming after than reshoots. We all know that standard in the business. I think it's more a matter of he claimed, I don't seem that I would need to do reshoots. I've only done one day of reshoes' last two films. He was bragging about that. and then stressed the six points he did,

as if Denny Villeneuve wouldn't have come up with his nuggets. It was a little bit of hubris on his part, and we're seeing that come out in certain ways. And everyone's like, oh, I love that James is on social media. That's also hubris to a degree. And so I think this is where we're getting into a situation where it seems a little weird that he keeps talking about this, and people are waiting to grab him on it.

That's what it is. I think you have, there are certain people that you've got, your dukes up for all the time you've got your dukes up for all the time whether it's james gun i love james maybe not to the same extent Jennifer Lopez uh the rock there are certain people that you are ready and right now james gun is on that list for you i disagree with those comments that you just made because i don't think that those are reshoots i think they're pickups i think he took i think there's a difference between you know i don't have to go back and reshoot anything i don't have to go back and do that because he's not also i don't think it's humor is he's saying because

I get, I'm the one that's calling the shots. I understand. I knew what I need to do. I knew what I had to put together. I don't think he was comparing himself to Deval and even all those other people as far as I'm saying. I know, but I don't think that that's what his intent was at all. I think it was saying like, I don't need to do that stuff because I put together my plan. And I think that it was more so intended to say, have confidence in me, guys, because I know what I'm doing here and I have this for you guys.

And I'm putting this out there and I have these things shot. And it's like, and there's, you know, you can probably call them out if you want to. to if it was like like I mentioned before he's like you know what I was wrong I got about a month of reshoots that we have to do here and put things out and those are what they didn't need recesses I thought you had the movie in the bag pickup shots and saying like oh I wish I would have had a tree there or something there or a character shot there instead that's not a reshoot that's a pickup shot and I agree with you but who's going to be on set to verify this Christian who's going to be on set to see like okay yes this is totally a reshoot or this is

totally a pickup shot no one's going to do it so he can make these comments freely, but because who's going to cross James Gunn? He's so powerful now that if you believe the narrative, the creature commandos animators animated him into the opening of creature commandos supposedly without James Gunn knowing and they surprised him with it as a thank you. You know, that kind, to me, that kind of cult like sycophancy. Oh, come on. That I have an issue with. I do. I have an issue with that stuff. Are you kidding me? I would never sketch your face. Even if I could draw, I would never sketch your face and surprise you with it.

Did you see, but that's different, though, but did you see the way Frank Grillo was talking about this guy when it came to, but, but no, it's not of course. Frank Rillo is not that type. There are some people, granted, we've interviewed them that love every director that they've worked with because they don't want, because they're brown nose in and they're doing this. And I think Frank Grillo, Frank Grillo is, was. Frank was, you know, over the moon in this guy and talking about how he's, he's always been an actor's director and people respond to the guy. I mean, look at the way Dave Batista went to bat for him and all that shit went down. People love the guy and it has nothing to do. I don't, I think it with sycophant stuff, I think it's a matter of them going, this guy

is, does really care. And I think he treats his crew right. And I think from everything that I've ever heard about him, people like to be on set with the dude. So if the ad, The other meters are like, and I think it was the throwback to the old school. What was the NBC thing we used to see the dude on the. Yeah, yeah, Stephen Jay Cannell. Yeah, yeah. And I think it was a throwback to that. So I don't think, I think, as I'm telling you, he's on your list.

He's on your list. Yeah, but he could have said, no, take that out. He could have said that. No, I appreciate the gesture, guys. Thank you for doing that. It's really kind of you to do that. But I don't need to be seen like that on the show. No, he left it in there.

Sure. And so, listen, two things can be true. He can be very good to his actors and very good to the people and then he works with. And I think that's very true because you never hear a crossword about James Gunn from anybody who works with him. But the other side of is he could also have a very large ego that allows him to achieve the success that he achieved. But wait a minute. But wait a minute. When I sense it, I call it out.

Let me ask you an honest question about yourself. Sure, sure. When you were at the height of your powers in the schmodown, when you were like, Did I have power in the spot? When you were like the guy, when everyone, you had the top merch, when everybody was talking about the outlaw, you think you had an ego at that time? No, no. So you better, you better answer correct.

Well, what's the, what's the definition of that? I never tried to, I never tried to strongarm you into anything. I said, I said, did you have a big ego at the time? I believed in myself, yes. And I did have an ego in myself. Of course. I also wasn't going, well, was I, I don't know. I did occasionally call you out when you didn't put me into a video montage. Right.

Yeah. But I didn't say to you, you better put me in this and you better use this clip. And did he say that? No, no. I don't know if he did. I don't know what was. Okay. So this is my point.

I wasn't there. My point is when you have a certain level of success and in general. And by the way, I do not fault you for having any go at that time at all. and I do not fault him because you have to have a bit of an ego in order all this stuff in order of success yeah 100% it's a matter of how you use that ego and if he felt and do I think that in some world he would like to have been a performer yeah I think that he also realized at one point that it's not a strong point and I think that what he did was that he's like he uses the stuff that he has I mean what executive because of what he's done in directing

Yeah. I mean, he's got as big of a, he's got a big name as a lot of different actors, right? And he had that before he became the DCU head. And he is just a guy with a big personality and a, you know, funny and all those types of things. So. Right, but you can't you, that's great and all. But like there are little things like his, and by the way, I want to turn the mirror back on people. If you were a fan of the Schmodeown and you had an issue with my ego, but you don't have an issue with James Guns ego, take a look at the hypocrisy. of that. So this is the situation though when you look at what James gun, he takes these little shots at Marvel Christian that are very interesting. And you know, I've heard from a few people in the business that there is a bit of a rivalry between him and and Feige and there are issues between. I'm sure you've heard that between him and Feigey. And so these little shots at Marvel, oh, we're not going to do anything unless it's a finished script. We're not going to announce anything

unless it's a finish script. We're not going to do. So like there's these little things that he does that shows you that although he's great to the people on the set, he's great to the people he works with, he also has this, you know, this desire to poke. Those tweets that he got in trouble for, what, 10, 15 years ago? Those were pretty inflammatory tweets. They weren't great. Humor and all of that stuff,

but they were still meant to prod for attention. They were meant to prod for attention. And so I think he still has that within him, and he likes to bring that out. And there's an ego involved in that. That's all I'm saying. I think James is a great director. I love his work.

I don't think I've seen a bad movie from James Gunn in my lifetime. So I've got nothing negative to say about him creatively. I just think occasionally there's an ego thing that pops up and people get so mad when you pointed out because they worship at the altar of James Gunn. And I think you have to have a healthy balance. You know, you talk about me putting up Dukes. I'm about equality and I will call you out when you're great and I'll call you out when you're bad. And that keeps me level, you know?

I know, but I feel like, I don't know. I didn't hear you saying a lot of things about like over the last week before the reshoot stuff there was a lot of pro-positivity to whether it was what do you think of creature commandos by the way I loved it I thought it was really good okay but I do have an issue which I brought up in our review on the geek buddies I don't understand the gratuitous what I see is the gratuitous nudity the unnecessary nudity in the show turned into a 70-year-old man I don't just say there's no need to see Alana walking naked side boob towards the bed says you yeah that's right my opinion her being on the bed this is clearly made to titillate 15 year old boys who and I think James

still has a little bit of the 15 year old boy within him so for me I thought that was a little and I also found it curious that Rick Flagg Sr. looks exactly like James Gunn without glasses and a lot of looks like Jennifer Holland with there and so I wonder if that's an animated form of them selves playing something out there but like to me i just thought that because there's no need to see nina getting in the tub covering her breasts and you can totally see her lower there's no need for that shot so other than that though i thought it was great the storylines were great yeah voiceover work is great so i'm in it yeah all right well you know it is it is it is what is i don't i don't give you about that stuff but it's like but but i'm also going to i'm also going to give it to you like you know

same same way where we we had our whole debate with the olympics and stuff like that too if that that that type of stuff gets under your nerves who am i to question i didn't i didn't have a problem with that at all but um but i do think that uh you know he's going to be pun intended i guess under the gun when it comes to once superman comes out because it's like yeah all right big movie he's he talked about in another interview recently that um this is this this guy is this and we all know it superman is the staple of the new dc unit's got a hit um it is I want it to be good. I want it to.

It's over if it bombs. I know, man. It's over. Like before even, you know, creature commandos or whatever. It's,

I mean, it's over. Like, if it breaks even and, or just makes money, people will criticize it, but it's not over. But if it,

if it doesn't perform, yeah, I just can't see that. It's, it's the most hype I've seen on a Superman movie in a very long time. Yeah. Let me ask you this,

though. A lot of people in commenting this week after Creature Command. has dropped. You've seen some comments on Twitter and article saying, okay, now we've seen another project from James Gunn with this same type of humor like in peacemaker, like in Guardians of the Galaxy to a degree, not always, because there's a lot of sweet sentiment in Guardians of the galaxy. It's great. So people are concerned that the Superman is going to have this element to it through the authority or other people. So Superman movie, do you think this is something

to legitimately be concerned about? Well, I think I actually... Well, no, I actually brought this up. I brought this up on capes on, yeah, the other day. And I've talked about it. And even when I was talking to Frank Rillo, and Frank Rillo said that there's a tone of, like, there's a serious tone in general, he's about the overall DCU, with a mixture that Gunn brings in humor. And you're not wrong that it was one of my concerns is that gun is,

does bring a lot of jokes into this stuff, but it's just a matter of how it's balanced. It works for the Suicide Squad. It works for Creature Commandos. It works for Guardians of the Galilee. But even in Gardens of the Galaxy, too, it became a bit overbearing. Agreed. Because it was like, okay, when you hit the emotional moments, when you hit those moments with, whether it's Groot, whether it's the stuff with Yandu, it's powerful and it works.

It's then right, and then right after it is a joke from Drax and you're like, oh, that just took me right out of where I, where I needed to be. And it's like, and then it's like the old, you get a car, you get a car, you get a car, you get a joke, everyone gets a joke. that can't happen in Superman. And I don't believe it will. I don't believe it will. I can't see Superman flying around cracking jokes. Jimmy Olsen will probably crack jokes. And then who did, oh, you know,

and Winston brought this up, and I agree with him. Guy Gardner, Nathan Philean is probably there to tell some jokes. But I don't think he's going to have a big enough part to make the whole thing. I can't see, you can see Lois Lane being, you know, sarcastic and witty. And that's okay. You need that. but it's like yeah i just don't want to see like okay i feel like i'm in a comedy club because sometimes in james guns movies in the theater you feel like you're in a comedy club

yes um but yes is it a concern i think it should be it's a concern for everybody it was like so it's the same thing like when before he took over dc u he's a massive massive uh knights of the old republic fan yes he loves it and i remember going this is a guy i'd like to see do these movies I'd like to see him and why so we could have uh, Revin cracking jokes, Malik cracking jokes. That's what everybody started saying. And it's like anything, because that's what he has really built his brand on. Yep.

What movies has he done that there's not a lot of comedy in it? I can't, I can't, I mean, I'm sure there is one, but I can't think of it. Yeah. And so having some comedy in Superman is not a problem. Right. That's not an issue. Overbearing. overbearing is where it becomes an issue.

And that's about constructing a film knowing where the button is, right? Knowing where to give like Guy Gardner the button in a certain scene to let the tension out of the of the balloon a little bit and go on to the next scene. So if he's constructed that correctly throughout the film, I think those jokes will land with massive effect. And so again, I wanted to be good. I hope he's figured out. But the danger is also that no one can, who's telling?

telling James Gunn, no. Like, who's artistically going and going, look, you got too many jokes or this joke doesn't work? Like, who's, who does he have someone doing that? I don't know. Maybe, maybe he doesn't. But like, see, but the thing is also you can read it as we, you and I were talking about beforehand. I like to take a look in and see what people are saying as far as overall with the conversation. And oh, yeah, it is sometimes that people don't listen, right? Because I think big blockbuster movies, I think humor is a necessity. Oh, yeah. You got some one guy like, oh, this was a dark cloud over. his head when watching movies and watching that happen it's like no that's not what i'm saying i'm saying

that if it overpowers the movie and it takes away from what the essence of the film is it sucks you out yep perfect example ragnar rock works great it's got a lot of humor in it but it's got an emotional story it works it pushes forward the narrative love and thunder is a saturday and like sketch that they should have thrown out that never went to air right that's the difference so it's not a matter of humor being in a movie you are incorrect sir when you say that what you're not doing is using your ears and listening to what i'm saying about tone you've got to have a tone that overall works humor can work great it's a matter of how you make it work and it becomes does it overpower your story and just like look how funny i am yeah i mean look even in even in some of the

most dramatic movies you have these moments of dark humor or these moments of just human humor because of the insanity of the situation and that's essential to kind of you know like i said let a little bit of the air out of the balloon right so i think that's where i hope james finds the right combo as you said of tones so that it it has a maximum effect by the time the movie's over people should be crying by the end of super thing that's what i think people should absolutely be in tears or be emotional and if you've hit them at the right spots they're going to have a big stupid grin on their face driving home people are mentioning the comments about james gun made bright burn he produced it he produced he did not direct it so you know i'm talking about the

movies he directed um because david jersowski directed that movie right um so i am curious to see i i'm i'm sure he's very capable of doing it just the question of will he um we shall see well i think that's the reason he added these characters guy gardner and the thought these are the characters that he is going to use to put his humor in the movie like he added them on purpose and not not only just to create a world where heroes already exist, but also to create a world where he can throw his type of humor in while also telling a very emotional and moving story about Clark Kent. I think that's probably why.

Now, if you want to use the people that have been saying that about me, if you want to use the comment, my next comment to prove that point, so be it. My favorite Guardians movie is the third film. I feel like it's the least of the overpowering jokes movie. I think there's certainly humor in it. I mean, I think of one of the best, the first F-bomb in the MCU history.

There's some really funny moments in it. But it's essentially a pretty dark movie, right? Like the stuff that's going on with Rocket and it's pretty dear emotional, right? So, like, I don't want to see Superman get that dark. Like that movie did. And I liked that movie got that dark. But I think that that movie, Guardians 3 is a good blend. If Guardians 3, there's some things of Guardians 3, like the, what's his face?

Adam Warlock? Yes. Like that didn't. There's certain things in that movie that doesn't work for me. But, but Superman could have a similar tone to that I'd be okay with. Yeah. Yeah.

We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. All right. Before we move on, we got a lot of things to talk about here. Box office is coming up really soon. Then we're going to get into these,

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Yeah. It's a shit party. E, wow. It's so stupid. I mean, the fact, who's voting over there? I don't know. A bunch of international critics, right? And then some critics here in the States.

How do international critics, not nominate. Denisovan. I know. Or John M. Chu. I'm really surprised by both of them. That's also. So I'm going to tell you, I didn't even know that until just now. Hold on.

Let me see. And we'll go through all the. Excuse me. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. Let's get to. All these nominations. I'm trying to bring them up. And then right now, John, so I can give you a break then. You're at 14 questions thus far.

14. I shouldn't have said shit about James Gunn. That's why I'm only. I don't know. You might have people who combat you. Come on. Bring it. Don't sing it. Bring it. Don't cry into your pillow. If you got an issue of what I had to say, send in somebody, your questions, thoughts, and comments. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go at it. Nothing is off the table. Let's go. All right. With that being said. 14? 14 so far. All right. Let's chop meatloaf. Here we go.

Golden Globes analysis can't in a bit of a bit of a bit where's the actual where's the actual nomination? I'm seeing these nominations. Where are they? Come on. She's my daughter. What are you sling blade? I was doing Jeff Bridges and the old man.

Oh, okay. We can't do that. That's pretty good. Where are the nominations? I mean, did it not the nominations came out? Yes. came for you can find him all me to read him no no I'll find them in a second I thought I had him pulled up no darker horizons usually has all this stuff but it's like I can't

I can't find it and then I might have to have you do it in a second but where is one or two quick news with oh my god I got a variety man right he has more I want to you read them because I can't find these stupid things all right where you want to go well tell me which category you want just start start with the motion picture yeah sure all right motion picture we got the brutalist a complete unknown which is the bob dillon picture enclave dune part two nickel boys and september 5th which i just saw yesterday so i started watching that and dug it so far i'm gonna finish all those but so yeah i really wish can you just send me the link so i can't i'd like i'd like the audience go to see it i don't

know why it's so hard i just googled it i can't find i can't find the goal is that it maybe all right i think i found one maybe this will work here let's say go nomination and or a real pain. Okay. No, it's like, I don't need your breakdown of it. Give a breakdown on a freaking different. You have all the way in the bottom,

probably. That's where they usually are. Holy shit, man. It's like I don't need a full on breakdown of all this shit now. I just need that. Gosh, darn. There you go.

There you go. There it is. Oh. Oh, is it? Yeah. Right. There it is. No.

Oh, my God. I hate this. Just send me the freaking language. I sent it to you. It's so stupid. All right. Anyway, so the nominations for best picture.

best picture I mean so out of the ones that I saw there I guess yeah but I dig I dig what we know what you were talking about because I have complete unknown yeah which I really liked a lot and I think I don't know if I can talk about it yeah I think I can all right there it is okay so is that on the bottom there yeah yeah yeah you got a little bit just a little bit down and then they'll yeah yeah they'll do this because they know people don't want to read all this shit okay best post best post motion picture okay thank you brutalist i have not seen i'm gonna see that complete unknown dug it i'm glad it's in there um conclave another one i'm gonna look at this weekend dune part two did you see nickel boys i have not seen nickel boys yet that's uh either

today or tomorrow before my ballot okay submit my predict's choice ballot yeah okay now the golden globes usually is like a mixer you know you have then for the oscars you're gonna have some of these at best motion picture musical or comedy a nora which everyone was talking about challenger Melia Perez, a real pain, substance, and wicked, right? Okay, best motion picture animated, flow inside out two, memoir of a snail, Moana, two, Wallace and Gromit, Wilderwood, no Transformers won, interesting. No Transformers, okay. Cinematic and box office achievement, what is that?

Is that a new thing? Yeah, okay. The best box office, yeah. And I have nothing to do with that. Best motion picture, non-English language, all we imagine is light. Milly Perez, the girl with the needle. I'm still here. The Seed of the Sacred Figg.

Ramead Leo, okay? Best performance by a female actor and a motion picture. Pamela Anderson, okay? And this is the drama. Angelina Jolie. Cole Kidman. Tilda Swinton. Fernandez, Kate Winslet. Nonsense.

Who are we missing there? I'll tell you, Shorsi Ronan is missing for either her work in Blitz or the outrun. That beats anything Pam Anderson in the last show, girl. That's a courtesy nomination because they're glad she came back. Okay. And then best performance by male actor and motion picture drama, Adrian Bode, Brody, Timothy Salomey, Daniel Craig, Coleman Domingo, Ray Fines, Sebastian's Stanford for The Apprentice.

Yeah, unless he's standing there. Nice to see him. He's got two movies that he could be nominated for. So that's one. True, right. Best performance by a female actor and motion picture, musical or comedy. Amy Adams, Cynthia Arrivo, Carlos, Sophia, Gascon, Mikey Madison

Demi Moore and Zendaya Best Performance by male actor Motion Picture Jesse Eisenberg Q Grant Gabriel LaBelle Jesse Plumins Glenn Powell Glenn Powell for Hitman Yeah I know

This is why I think I'm bored Already Yeah I think I'm bored I think I'm bored I'm just bored I'm just bored with the rat Unless there's anything else that people want to talk about With that but we can discuss Well, I guess the director is the whole point of why we're doing it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's go, let's go. Yeah, let me go down. I'll get the director. Here's the director. Um, the director right now is, Jacques, Jard, Ariadrella, Amelia Perez. Oh, perfect.

Amelia Perez. I haven't seen it. Sean Baker, Anora, can't speak on it yet. I haven't seen any of these yet. I thought it was great. I will tell you this. Yeah. Okay.

You will love an Nora. You will love it. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to watch all of them. them i want to be i want to be up on all them edward burger brady corbe is a corbea corbette the corvette uh corlet farge for the substance and pala cabita for all we imagine is light okay so i've not i haven't seen any of these so i haven't seen any of them so what i can tell you oh that's that what an idiot i am i've seen one of them yeah the substance right substance it's a good movie yep it is not better directed than do to i mean please it's not it's not better i can't speak on the other ones to say

whether they are or not but it is not a better directed movie than dune too um so people who would you because that's always the answer yeah it's like who would you take out okay i'm taking out right away i've seen none of the other movies i'm taking up brady and i probably if i go through it i might put brady back in there and take someone else out you mean corollary you mean the substance corally yes sorry brady's brady's at britties and which which from what i hear that movie's fantastic we're probably you're probably not only getting it probably win um but uh no i've been corally is who i would take out but so you're with me on this right yeah um yeah i mean i all we imagine is light i have not seen um and i can't wait to see it but i think that's an international

nomination uh and i think absolutely doing part two and bill newb should qualify as a friend French director to be a part of this, you know? So it's just kind of confusing on so many levels that he, he always seems to get screwed over. That's the thing that's crazy to me. He's directing. Sorry, he's Canadian. Sorry about the French, obviously French Canadian.

But like the level to which he's directing these movies is astounding. It's David Lean, Hitchcock, Coppola type level of directors. And I don't understand what he's. always getting screwed over in these nominations or not winning. It's just mind-blowing to me. And so many people are like, Wicked should win best picture. And a lot of them are the same people who are like,

no, Dune Part 1 should win because that's a part 1. But Wicked's a part 1, but people seem to be conveniently forgetting that. So the hypocrisy of some of these voters sometimes is a little frustrating on my end. But like, yeah, I don't understand why Dinnies that in there. Doom Part 2 is, to me, still the best film of the year. I don't know why. Easily.

And I usually, and I still do, but a lot of times, I like to respect people's opinion. You don't like it? You don't like it. Of course. Today I'm not doing that. Today I'm not doing that. Today is my one pass. If you feel that Dune 2 should win the NyQuil movie of the year award, you should have your,

I'm going to see movies pass revoked for you for the rest of 2024, 2025, 26. It means that I would never take anything you say serious about movies ever if you think that movie isn't just a brilliant masterpiece that's only today tomorrow i'll tell you okay listen fine you want to have a different opinion on it i think that is a ridiculous ridiculous take and i and i and i and i if you ever recommend a movie to me sir i will say no thank you to you because your opinion is nothing when it comes to the movies for me today now tomorrow i'll respect you a little bit more but with the way that dene has been uh pooped on today i'm gonna poop on you um poop on you yes poop on your triumph but yeah it's just a joke it it's it the the problem is this

also is what I think's going to happen now he'll definitely get a nomination for the Oscars oh 100% he better yeah but it means he definitely won't win and I think he should um I think one of the things that's going to prove to be true here is that one if your movie comes out in March you got a long shot when winning anything yeah that because there's just so much that comes out and it's a it is a you know recency bias business it always has been um and the movie was supposed to come out at the end of last year wasn't it yeah or 23 yeah and because they wanted to put it in contention to to get it in for the awards last year um and they just couldn't push it any longer so they put it out when they didn't i think it's going to hurt it in the long run and i

also think science fiction movies and that type of stuff they're still yeah yeah it's like i think didn't you and i talk about this in if you i was looking back when did when did uh like driving miss daisy right that movie came out what 88 89 same year as uh as uh do the right thing right you look at the movies that were nominated in 89 come on every but my point of it is they were all mainstream movies yep even if they were small movies i know that the business was different at the time i'm very aware of it but they were all mainstream movies that people if they didn't see it they'd heard about it and Every movie that I mentioned on that best picture, you brought up to my dad, my friends,

your friends who aren't in this business. What the hell is that? Never heard of that movie. They don't know what half of these movies are. They wouldn't know what the brutalist is. They wouldn't know what the substance is. They wouldn't know what half these movies are. And it's like that's just, it's, and so those are the movies now that get nominated and win.

And it's also, guess what? I know one watches these shows. No one watches. That's the thing. We're in this place now. And I've seen some people stumping for Wicked and I get it. And people like, oh, it should be nominated. It should win, right?

Which it won, I think it won. Yeah, it won the National Board of Review. But there are problems with that movie in the middle section of the movie. If you turn off your fandom for a second and turn on your analytical brain, there are issues with the middle section of that movie. I still enjoy the hell out of Wicked. I've seen it twice now. I really just enjoy the movie.

But do I think it's a better, completely better made film than something? they're like doom part two no there's no moment in doom part two where i'm like oh man this i don't understand the character development here or this doesn't make sense storyline wise and poke some holes in that no there i had no moments like that in doom part two and so i just don't understand people like trying to say well isn't that what should win best picture the film that people love the most no that's not the criteria it's not the criteria it's not the criteria is which is the most technically incredible film and also and creatively incredible film and and um and uh creatively incredible film and overall, that's what should win, the combo of the creative side of things and technical side of

things coming together to create an incredible film. And yes, there have been films that have won that do not qualify, including driving Miss Daisy, which makes no sense. But something like Wicked, I think, is a fantastic film, should absolutely be nominated, like Barbie, right? Should totally get nominated, should get fed it all over the place. But it has no business winning best picture at the Oscars. None.

Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's just strange where it's like, you just don't know, it's, I don't know. The system is, is bizarre. It's a, it's a bizarre system on how it all plays because the people who get to vote on certain categories and don't. I'm talking about the Oscars specifically. I know that the, it's different for Golden Globes, but I don't take this stuff serious anymore. Yeah. I just don't. And I definitely don't think that, I know this one, I don't think this one is.

And I don't say this because we're in the, I do feel like there's a little bit more validity to the Critics Choice Awards. I really do. And I don't just say that because we're in it. I really don't. You can believe me or not. But that's fine if you say, oh, yeah, sure. But I do.

I think there's more validity to it. And I do think, I mean, from knowing I've never had one person try to influence my vote from when I've been doing this thing. I've never had, I mean, the studios will send stuff and do things, though, too, and send you, but necessary, but it's like, hey, and I've had publicists reach out and going, hey, just making sure you've checked out our movie, because they want to be considered for it. And I think that that, to me, I wish it would be the standard. I wish that that would be the one that people actually cared about the most. I really do, because I think that they're the one, because if you look at it, critics in general, influencers now, too, I hate to say it, are the ones that people, more than. Most people are looking to get their opinions on these movies to find out what the hell they are.

Yeah. In general, if you tune into a show and never heard of the substance, and today's the first time you ever heard of it, you and I essentially just marketed the movie for them. Yep. Right? Yep. Yep. And it's like, okay, we're also going to be voting on that movie and whether or not we think,

I'll tell you right now that Denis Valeneuve will be nominated of the critic choice. You will be. I hope so. Of course he will be. There's no world that he wouldn't be. But I just think that the big awards, the Oscars, the Oscars are irrelevant to me. They're irrelevant. Wow.

They're irrelevant. They're irrelevant. What do they do? It's the same. We have this conversation every year, dude, me and you. And it's like, put them on a streaming show, get them off network television. We're not living in 1983 anymore. Put them on streaming.

ABC, Peacock, whatever. Put them on a streaming service. And you can watch them, you can replay them. You can whatever you can put them on a YouTube channel. Who cares? no reason to be and spent all that money on network and then complain about how your ratings are suck and win right um the other thing is if i got a we've talked about this again and we've gotten to the same similar point to which i've agreed with you depending on where and what the movie is about if in the middle of a speech someone is giving a relevant

speech about a subject matter if it's political if it's whatever it might be because it's pertaining i made this movie because I wanted to represent this and this and this and it was and I was able to tell this story of this person because and it's relevant to it go and use that platform for that time that you have you should that's what you should do if you win a award for best comedy and start telling me who I should vote for eat a bag of farts hey it's like it's like I don't mean hey you won for playing a clown who who eats donuts backwards and farts a parade and you're giving me a political statement stop this and it's why it's what you do that on Twitter all day long I think it's I think it's so stupid when people go hey why do

you shut up an act shut up and play basketball shut up dummy there are lots of if it's their own personal platform and do whatever the hell you want they're human beings but don't do it at the Oscars I'm there to watch movies I'm there to watch stuff about movies and if it's relevant then do it yeah I don't disagree with you you don't need to shoehorn it in yeah where it's not supposed to be and if it If it's a film that, you know, if it's a comedy that is a commentary on society and reflective of what's going on society, then yes, make your comments and what have you. But if it's, yeah, if it's like Zoolander 2, then I don't want to hear it.

Yeah, and just over it. It's like it's a reason why the ratings go down over and over and over again. People don't want to see it. And if it happens again this year, you're going to see the ratings go down again. I guarantee you. Plus, nobody knows these movies. The average person tuning in, you don't watch the Oscars. I don't know.

I don't see any of these fucking things. Yeah. I don't care. happening for sure between the artistic films and the yeah because you don't have it used to be more of a cross section in the mainstream media it's not happening anymore you know and that's but people need to people need to stop crying about ratings i really do think that i don't mean like oh god you know where are there no i think more like i've you need stop caring about it like either if ABC is going to carry it shut the fuck up carry it don't even put commercials in it let it run the whole night well then put it on

streaming but then put it on streaming we're going to do that which we both said numerous times over the years Sure, put it on streaming so people can catch it. That's how the SAG Awards are. There's nothing wrong with that. Do that. But if you're going to put it on network television, don't cry about ratings, don't cry about commercial, try about nothing. You're honoring film. And it's very important to honor film.

So I think if you're putting it on a mainstream channel, prime time, run it. Don't cry about ratings. We're going to run it every year. We don't care about ratings because it's about honoring film, which is a very important thing in everybody's lives. You know what another thing, though, John, that is that I don't know if we ever talked about this and i i think you agree but i'm curious uh we're also in a time where because of the internet because of everybody you know you scroll and everybody's an instagram star now uh everybody's a

you know everybody's a whatever everybody's a star um back in the 70s 80s that was you're watching the oscars that was your shot to go to see movie stars yes you didn't see them on the internet you couldn't go to their personal pages you couldn't go and do all these different things, you know, and look, you wanted to see celebrities. You wanted to go, oh, that's, that's, look how so and so. I haven't seen so and so before. You can rewind stuff. You couldn't do these types of things. And that was your shot to go watch them. Was that was the night, now you're like this person's doing a podcast tomorrow. I'll watch that. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Everything has changed in that respect. And so you go, you can see your stars wherever. You can

see, as you said, on their Instagram feeds, you can Google their names, Google them. And they're showing up at multiple award shows now wearing gray clothes and whatever so yeah all of that is moved away and that's the thing right everything is everything is an exchange everything is in exchange you want more access to the stars you want to get more information about them you want to satisfy your need for gossip great you're going to get it but you're going to lose the allure that they always had for you you're going to lose the interest in attraction and fascination that you have with them it's going to chip away the more access you get to them and that's what's going to happen right and we seen that with sports stars celebrities whatever it's the same situation um you know i want to be able to

do this okay but then you're going to have to sacrifice this this is the game now constantly and people need to understand like we have the jeff and i were talking about this on hot mic the other day he's like i don't understand why these influencers or why these people are writing articles and it's like this is the game jeff journalism as you know it is over right it's over social media has completely changed everything for everybody and people love social media but the other side is that there's all kinds of negative that gets attached to social media. So, you know, there's nothing that advances progress that doesn't also destroy something process.

True that. Okay. So last thing we'll talk about before we head into the questions. And that's just the box office, which is cover here every Monday. And John, you jumped up. You're 31 already now. Look at that. So whatever you did there, you jumped up.

So now let's get to this. And this is the box office results thus far this weekend. Moana, too. hit 52 million this weekend for 600 million so far 600 million got a shot to let's see if yeah it's shot there so then you get wicked 34 million gladiator two at 12.5 um what is this now i don't know what that is the or the rule part two i don't know what that is i don't know what that is you know what part one was uh red one another seven million that one's hit in amazon pretty soon so moana wicked wicked doing some more business there john but what do you uh what do you

make of the numbers so far yeah i mean again the moana situation is so fascinating because this is this is a it's a fun film but it's not a great film right and at times not even a good film in certain moments certain scenes certainly an amalgamation of a bunch of episodes thrown together and sewed together even michael who's one of the biggest michael vulgar one of the biggest disney apologists uh very clearly did not like did not think this movie was that great but hey, clearly people like this world, like these characters, like to be back in this world. And it's certainly showing itself in the box office. And that's a good thing because it means down the road when they do Moana 3, that's going to be very much a theatrical release, a theatrically focused release.

And Iger coming in and telling them to stitch together these eight episodes and bring in the rock to do some voiceover work and add some more animation to it. You may argue about the results, the quality of the results, but you can't argue about the box. office results. So in the end, Iger made the right decision doing this financially, maybe not creatively, but certainly financially. So, and I think this opens the door, thankfully, for a Moana 3 that will be a theatrical approach to it. With Linanwell back. And Linan well, definitely back. So I don't disagree with that and any of that, really. The only thing that I'm curious about what you said is that you said, this is a bit of an anomaly that it made the money that it made. Um, I, because of, because if it's and I also don't disagree that I think it's an okay movie yeah I'll tell I I

know exactly why I made the money that's a hundred percent this first of all when it came out is was was the one thing the second thing is there is and this is and I know why you said what you did because you don't have children um I don't there is dude there is nothing in the theaters you it's like oh my god finally something something to take my kids to see. Yeah. And people like taking their kids to the movies. And there's nothing for kids to see, right?

This was one of those movies. And I'll tell you, we had it not, because of the critics choice, I was able to, I've already seen, I saw it in the theater, but then I was able, because of the critics, choice thing, we had the app, I was able to see the thing. And we did a whole family movie for it. And my wife and my kids bundled up, watched the movie,

and they didn't. The eyes were glued to it. And everybody had the reaction that I thought that it would. My wife goes, oh, you know, it was enjoyable, right? My 13-year-old who grew up with the first one was like, it was fine. The little one loved it because she can't decipher inside of the way that we do. She didn't notice that Lynn Manuel was gone. I did, right?

I thought the songs again, when they played this time around the second time, I was just like forgettable, whatever is fine. The story was a paint-by-number sequel type thing. Totally. but it was enough for people it didn't have the the people who could analyze it the Vogels yourself people you know in general that are looking at these movies like expecting like the next great one can leave disappointed and it's fair right but people who are taking families to go and see this thing they're going to go okay yeah it took my kids to see the movie uh spent some money on it and they liked it

and that was it and we had a good time of the movies and that's why i made money because families could go out and see this thing and continue to do and you had families being able to go and say oh there's nothing to see oh we haven't seen moana too yet well the kids really want to see it let's go see it and that's what happened yeah 600 million globally and i think this one has it seems like this one is kind of overtaken wicked as the one that's going to hit the billion it looks like wicked is slowing down a little bit a 57% drop from last weekend uh so this is the one the family families are taking their kids to it is this one and apparently uh roe harim is is uh the lord of the rings is tanking internationally already it's been released internationally it is not doing well so that might tank so that's

one less that's too bad because i don't know i don't know that's too bad have you seen it i haven't seen it that's all my left as well lord of the rings you're talking about right yeah yeah and again i don't i got to check i'm one of the things i'm going to do is check the embargoes to some of this stuff too because i don't know if i can talk about it and fully that movie yet or i'm still here or not i'm still complete unknown but like both movies i really enjoyed okay really enjoyed it's it yeah i'm looking forward to it so yeah but yeah but you look so there's one less thing so mufasa if mufasa comes out and it's not well received that'll be interesting sonic three is coming out so i think right now muana's gonna clean up maybe hit that billion before mufasa or sonic three comes out and then

disney will be safe right and disney will be happy with that i mean inside out two and mwana two or inside out three rather more oh no inside out two sorry Deadpool you're talking about you're talking about it kicked ass this year yeah that's three billion dollar movies now there's not going to be a lot of stuff for families to see leading up to um sonic and the fuss so that's what i'm talking about when it comes to because we haven't we have an avid watcher in our who's here every day no every day which i i and i and i and this gentleman is a supporter and again sometimes doesn't pick up on the words what i'm saying here and it's like I'm not telling you that animation is not for everybody.

It's not my point. Oh, man, are you still making it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The person is, I'll explain, and he explains also why he's inside of the comment section. And I don't fault this person all. He's passionate about it. Sure. But what I'm trying to tell the gentleman is that you can make a move,

that is intended for all audiences the same way that I talked about the Agatha and anything to you you're you're you're aiming at one particular audience right this Moana two is clearly aimed at families right totally and that does not mean that everybody cannot like these movies everybody can like them but it doesn't mean that everybody will it also means that there's sometimes when someone goes an adult can go and see Moana too and very much enjoy it yourself included sir What I'm telling you is that the majority of people will, what I believe, will see this movie and go, okay, well, I didn't love it as much first, but my little kid loved it. That's what I'm saying. So when you write, you know, it's not just for kids. I understand that. I get it. I get everybody loves animation. Now what I'm saying.

You got to pay attention to all the words here. And the words are that this movie is going to hit harder with children than it will adults overall. Some, maybe not, but overall, yes. Yeah. All right. So we are going to get to some comments in just a second. I got one more for you here to do. You know what?

Before I do that, John, let's you tell the people what you got going on. Yeah, outlaw nation. Head on over there. YouTube.com slash John Roker says, head on. There's so much happening this week as you get ready for the holiday, which is what, days away, 16 days away. Kind of crazy to think about how close we are to another Christmas

and New Year's Christian. It's fascinating. But the geek buddies, we just, we just drop, we're going to drop our Dune Prophecy review today for episode four. Then we're going to get into our skeleton crew review later on this week and our main show later on this week as well. Jedi Way is locked up for Wednesday. We're recording that on Wednesday as well. Spill the tequila possibly happening on Wednesday, live. And then today on this game time sports channel, Wednesday, Marshall,

reuniting after a couple of weeks of taking off from the NFL to talk about the big games over the weekend. So that's happening on the game time sports channel. But so much happening. And Jeff and I are locked down for the hot mic on Thursday at 4 p.m. PT. So come and hang out with us on the outlaw nation channel, YouTube.com slash John Roka says. Thanks, guys. Thank you, John.

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She was excited last week to beat you. One, one the week. But you can't complain about being a single person, the single person anymore. Can't do it. She showed you that's not true. Well, I can, but yes, go ahead. So you can't, you're true.

You can complain about anything. That's what you do. You made a career out of it. Haskell, 420. So Vasco. Hey, guys, getting this out of the way. I'm bugged the Soto. I'm glad that he brought this up because I was going to bring us.

I was going to bring up too, dude. Yeah, go ahead. Soto is not coming back. in my opinion stupid move by him but we'll see the met's owner wasn't going to be denied and would have upped every offer we gave you got to draw the line at some point the director of the awesome film r r r r says a new doc our are behind and beyond is coming this month i assume beyond is its impact and tease of its sequel and my 52nd birthday was on saturday happy birthday one of the biggest supporters we got i love that um let's start with the uh sodo thing right

So yeah, this morning my mom texted me and she's just like, get them out of here. Good riddance, right? It's funny because I don't this, I've said this to my neighbor. I said this many times. And maybe it's because the Yankees have always been the big brother over the Mets, right? I don't dislike the Mets. I went to more Mets games this year than the Yankees. It's easier to get to.

It's just from where I am, it's easier to get to. And I'll probably do the same next year. Now, that being said, if I went to the Yankees versus Mets, I'm wearing my Yankee jersey, and wearing my Yankee hat. I'm rooting for the Yankees. But the Mets getting Soto. It's because they have a new owner that billionaire, and he's like, I got to make some moves here if I'm going to compete.

My friend this morning, we were texting back and forth. My buddy goes, well, it just showed that the Mets are no longer the Yankees, a little brother. I said, take it easy. Yeah. I said, take it easy. When they win World Series, I said, maybe financially this means that. I said, this proves financially that they can hang with the Yankees.

This does. Financially, they can hang. You can't win some championships before we start. start talking here now as far as so Soto did this for the money he clearly did it for the money because the Yankees offered him like 17 years or something ridiculous and they offered him like three more years just not as much and he took them he took the five million more is basically what it was maybe they didn't want to pay for the Yankees anymore maybe you wanted to be the the savior of the Mets I don't know but I don't fault him I'm just glad he didn't go to the Red Sox yeah

which I was driving me nuts that they were in play for this situation yep me too look it's find that he went to the Mets, take the money. I respect that. He's 26 years old. 15 years, $760 million with, with escalators that could get it to $800 million. That's insane. I mean, I'm still of the time when by the time the contract's over, he'll be using an escalator to get up the stairs. But I'm of that time when Kevin Brown's contract was outrageous, when Arod's contract was outrageous.

The fact that we have an $800 million contract possibly in essence here, We are not far away, Christian, from the first player to get paid a billion dollars to play baseball. And that is mind-numbing to me that that's a possibility. This is the most, dude, this is the most expensive contract in sports history. Yeah, force history, period. Sports history, not just in any league. Yeah. It's incredible.

And so, look, the kid deserves it. He won a chip with the Nationals. He got us to the World Series last year. Maybe he didn't want to share the spotlight there and judge, but he wants to stay in New York. So, fine, go and do it with the Mets. see what happens who knows maybe you can bring them a chip and i agree this your friend is ridiculous they're there's they're always going to be the stepbrother until they maybe get to double digits chance wake me up when you get to double digits championships then we can have a conversation

yeah you can't i mean it's nonsense and so yeah so congratulations but it doesn't mean it's going to work out i mean bobby be uh let me need her imagine of that contract right but financially it did prove though financially though that they're in a different ball game now they're playing with the big the big boys now in the in financially so they're gonna and look and good for them i'd like the with any another player in the game um mike joyce ah yes the substance that's a comedy monstros and that ending is so funny golden globe's gonna be golden globes yeah it's it you can like i like i like i get it i get it you know it's it's way more horror than anything else too but it is it it is definitely satirical and that type of things for sure um

I like the first two halves of that movie. I didn't like the end. Yeah, okay. Yeah, the end is very precise. I think Jeff didn't like the end. I didn't like the ending. I thought it was very, it was a very interesting kind of black mirror type movie the whole time.

And then the ending just got so stupid. I was just like, you know, it was like overly gory and everything too. And I'm like, oh, you had me. You really had me. Like they really had me on board.

I think it's great performances all the way around. Yeah. I don't know what it. It felt lazy the ending. kind of tacked on a little bit yeah very european the ending and i don't know if that works for american audience maybe maybe mike joyce do you think that if kathleen kennedy was more like james got on social media the internet would treat her differently no maybe worse worse maybe worse maybe worse yeah it's it's not

the difference between kathleen and and the obvious people always the difference in kathleen and james gunn's woman and a man right sure 100% and and it's one of the difference but but the big to me the biggest difference says in the same way that I mentioned and they could and it doesn't matter man or woman what they need at Lucasfilm is someone like a gun and fight you who's actually a fan of this stuff yeah like it's not a necessity but I I actually think it should be um I think that it's something that the understanding of it and going okay maybe I don't know necessarily how to do that but I know that that person does and I'll put that person there because that timeline would be a lot of fun to do

and it's it's just it it's just a wrong it's like I said we're talking about baseball it's a wrong coach just the wrong coach for this team um yeah all right next one and this one we're 34 thus far as we're moving through can john hit 70 today that's the question i mean it's possible look uh 35 more come on 36 the hey the capes and cows guys were at 20 when we started the questions and ended up at like 79 80 or something like wow uh roman fedorek i saw boys ambulance after hearing it was one of his best i could have stand it whoever gave oh sorry I said boys I saw Bay's ambulance after hearing it was one of his best I could not stand it whoever gave Bay the idea to put

his camera or drones needs to be fired hope you don't mind a bit of negativity no I don't mind at all and I'll tell you I am convinced that I have traveled I I have cloned myself or I or I have an alternate version of myself and I've given myself that Roman Fedorak because every time he puts in a a conversation or ask like a what do you think about this when he gives my example what i'm to do this time he pretty much copies my opinion everybody i remember j t talking about how great ambulance was and how it was like back to form i turned it off after like 20 minutes it's yeah it's a fine film it is not anywhere near bay's best no i turned it all right there's the same to seem

kind of schlock nonsense um carlton rudder london calling what's up carl carl i bought the new indie game today and it's superb on james gun please check out john's excellent breakdown of guardy the galaxies garden guardians the galaxy on the cinnophiles oh yeah is a great time um so yeah people go and check that out for sure but as far as indiana jones game you know so many times during the weekend i was telling you john that we everybody got sick and it's like it's it was just it was a weekend it was a weekend so one point i considered sneaking up to the the the uh xbox is in the uh is and the girls. I was like, I'm going to sneak up there because the little one plays the bluey game.

The older one plays five nights of Fridays. And I'm like, I'm going to download the Indiana Jones game. And I won't come down until I see. You know, people start yelling for me, right? Yeah. I never got up there to do it. But I am, that is one. I am really looking forward, not only looking forward to it for the obvious,

I want to play an Indiana Jones game, but I hear everybody says, oh, great. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Excited. Yeah, good reviews on it. I'm looking forward to it as well. I'll probably purchase it in the next couple of days and then rev up the old Twitch engine.

Yeah. Put that on there. Yeah, definitely. Dan, who says, Can you please say, the Mandalorian and Grogo? It's the most ridiculous title of all time. I understood. I know why they're using it, but it's, you talk, they're getting about as safe as they can get.

Harley Davidson and the Morrill, right. man. Harloff and Ruka. Man Sinister Macal. Well, Nosferrat to be nominated for Best Picture. It could be. It should be,

but I think it's too weird for people. Yeah. But it was, it's going to hit my list. I'll tell you that. It's in my top five right now. Top five. Wow.

It'll hit my top 10. I love that movie. It's really, really good. Yeah. It was really, it was really, really solid.

I, I, you know, and the weirdest thing happened, man. Like, people came after me on my out of theater reaction on on youtube because they're like why didn't you mention bill sars guard why didn't this guy mention bill sars guard and the thing is you you record

these right after you walk out of the theater sometimes i forget things or i forget to mention somebody but it's not because they weren't good in the movie and so it was weird to see people like we're really hung up on that was just the out of the theater reaction yeah so much you can give of i think too all right i got don't get mad okay i got to read these these out yeah please scott Fisher. Sorry, Christian. I feel like I got to dump Monday. I'm getting tired of Roca's nitpicky BS.

Let me tell you. Let me, let me respond to them. Because I will say this. Mondays are one of my favorite shows. And it's because John and I have known each other for so long that we both. Yes, we both can. I would much prefer to have a show of somebody saying something that I can say,

wait a minute. I don't agree with that. And then that person can go, well, I don't agree with you. And then we can laugh about it and get a than the next thing. I think that it is healthy. I think it is encouraging for the audience to realize that conversation like that can still happen.

And it's unfortunate that you're deciding that you don't want to join on Mondays. I don't believe that I have become nitpicky in your opinion, so why wouldn't you stick with me? Now, if you think that some of you might think that I've gotten to, this is one guy who thinks that I don't like humor. Well, John likes humor, so he stick with him.

So, you know, I appreciate you're donating the air and I appreciate you having your thoughts being said but I got to defend John there and say like that there's a reason I have him on Mondays is because he he heightens the show don't be so sensitive guys like I have no power in the entertainment industry I can't affect anything that you love or don't love I'm just pointing out my opinion that's all and I'm not being arrogant about it or trying to shove it in your face I disagree I have it well Christian and I having a conversation and if it offends you I apologize it offends you but We're just talking like a couple of boys about these subjects.

So that's all. All right. Sahita K. Rings of Power, season two, not good. There's not much buzz around it. You know, it's not a matter. I actually heard the opposite. Yeah,

I've heard that it was good. I watched season one because season one was not good. I said, I'm not watching season two. I didn't want to watch. And I think that that's what happened to a lot of people. A lot of people said, I'm good.

It just wasn't, it didn't, I'll go see. I'll go see the movie, um, the new, the Peter Jackson one and because I knew he produced the animated one. I watched that.

And that felt way more like the Lord of the Rings that I liked than the TV show did. So I just wasn't interested in it. And I think that's what happened to a lot of people. Because Steph Sabrault did watch the second season, didn't like the first one, watched the second and really liked the second season. So I think that it's just, I think the damage had already been done. Yeah, I agree with that. 100%.

Yeah. Buster Barnes. Hey. Gunn has said that Superman. is not an ensemble and is relatively serious. I have faith, but we'll see in July. Also, who is your favorite comic book character? Superman actually is.

And that's because the Donner ones, my dad taking me to see them when I was younger. I always had very fond memories of Christopher Revis, Superman. So it's always been Superman for me. How about yourself? Like, favorite comic book character is probably Batman, just to be lame right now, to pick an obvious one. But Wolverine, as I get older, Wolverine becomes a character that I connect to

much more as I get older. So that's what I would say. Yeah. Well, wait a minute. So, and it's not, Anthony Cheeseman again. He's looking, he was looking for some fights. He said, if you can give John Watts for the old man, we can give gun credit for Brightburn. No, John Watts directed the first episode. He directed the first episode of the old man. What are he talking about? What are you talking about? And then he produced and he produced it and directed it. Yeah, he just like a skeleton. Yeah, what are you talking about?

Director of the first episode. Yeah, he directed it. What are you saying? Buster Barnes. Oh, yeah, okay. So as far as Gun said Superman is not an ensemble cast, that is, I mean, that's, that I did hear and great about that. And relatively serious is what we thought.

Relatively serious I can handle with jokes without, that's fine. You don't want the whole thing to be a, you know no light to it i just like i said i don't want to see superman mid-flight start cracking jokes yeah and i don't think he's going to do that inappropriate jokes it's yeah yeah right yeah right uh no julian ramos i watched the christopher reeve doc last night and it had me in tears yeah it's that will win a document uh i hope so it'll it'll it'll win uh especially as someone who's wheelchair bound it really hit home for me 10 oh man yeah so it's uh it it is it's a very powerful movie it's very It shows you like, it shows you really who he is, you know?

Yeah, it really does. Yeah, if only Robin and his wife had lived, it would be amazing to hear their comments about him in 2024. In retrospect, that would have been amazing. But you get so much of them in the movie. It's like they're there already, but it would have been nice to see them afterwards. So, yeah, it's a touching movie.

It's on HBO Max now. I have to finish it. You know, you know, it's funny is that, so do they mention that his wife passed? in the yes that's a that's in the latter half of the movie and the robin way oh such i'm i think i don't know which episode was a sarah show we're talking about it yeah i'm such an idiot because like i didn't realize that she had passed yeah no yeah i didn't yeah i didn't and he's like well she passed too and i go no she didn't and and he's like

he's like yeah she did i was like what and i look it up i go no i go oh yeah she did and then he's like man you we've had this whole thing on it and i was like i felt terrible but i was like And I was like, oh, maybe I should have finished a freaking doc too. Yeah. Anyway, Matt Sinister Macal. I have a WW2K channel with near 11,000 subs. That's awesome. Views are dropping.

I want to talk about movies. Will it affect me? How often and what time should I post? I would highly recommend not doing it on that channel. Yep. I would highly recommend that. I tell John this. I tell everybody this.

Learn that lesson. It's a hard lesson to learn, but it's true. Yeah. Look, I was guilty of it too. It's like there's like I start. even when I was doing the UFO show, I started doing the UFO show on this channel with really great results.

Yeah. The UFO videos were doing so good on Tuesdays, and they brought in a lot of people, but those people were like, what the hell are you talking about James Gunn on Wednesday when you were talking about the Senate hearings the day before? What the hell is this? I'll tune in on Tuesdays,

and the algorithm starts going, well, nobody wants to watch the movie stuff. They want to watch this. I'm like, oh, wow, this is really screwing up my stuff here. So I just created a new channel. the daunting task of that is saying oh but I already have a channel that is 11,000 subs I got to start all over again yeah you do in the same way that I had like the clips channel I had to start that clips channel from scratch and I was like okay you're not going to be able to

monetize it right away you're not able to do anything and I got lucky because Robert Eiler had some really great clips about talking about Tony Serico and other things and they hit and it was able to monetize the channel and get people out there to support it and now that's a functioning channel but you just got to work on I would highly recommend I told John to and I really I'm going to I still think you should start that damn politics channel but he should do that you're going to separate a sports channel separate these things. It's separate them. Don't do them all in one thing. And you got to do content consistent. That's a mistake I made with my sports channel. I only do one show a week. You got to do at least three or four shows a week or three or four videos a week that you put up. That keeps the channel in rotation and people finding it. You never know. You might you might surprise you how quickly you. move up and get subscribers on your film thing because it's a completely new channel. Well, because the algorithm is always learning. And it's saying like, you know, for example, like if I put, when I put clips out on this channel, it doesn't really push anywhere.

But now if I started to put clips consistently, well, I would piss off the audience is what I found out too, because they would say there's only, I don't make this, make it a clips channel, don't do it here. I don't want my subscription feed kind of overwhelmed doing that. But eventually the algorithm would say, oh, okay, clips, people are paying attention to these clips with that. But if you make like a certain channel for it, like, oh, they're coming here specifically for this. Like, and you know YouTube's using AI also now. You know that they are. And it's like that starts to teach things though too. And it's like, oh, people come here for this. People come here for that. Right. Like that's what it is. Like so people are going to Matt Serra's channel. Like it's,

it's a geek out channel and things that he's talking about. Right. And his episodes are doing okay. him and me are talking MMA and it did huge numbers because he's an MMA guy right so there's like this I'm waiting for it all to kind of mix over there but it's a process yeah yeah

Matt B if the Oscars snubbed Deney we riot in the streets I might join you yeah but I don't think that's going to happen I did there especially after this he's been nominated twice never won I don't think you'll win I don't think he's going to win but I think he'll get

nominated he should win I think he should win, but I don't think you will. Armada, for Guns, D.C., I expect lanterns to not have much comedy, despite him not making it. I'm also curious how dark soups will be in comparison to it all. I don't think Superman's going to be dark. Serious is a different word. Right, right. I think you could be serious.

I think you could, and I do think lanterns are they're going for that more true detective feel. Yeah. It's a reason why gun isn't directing it. Yeah, that's much more darker. That's going to be much darker. I agree. Alex, as a gun fan and someone who is incredibly excited for the DC reset, other than the difference between reshoots and pickups,

I couldn't agree with Roka more. Look at that. Thank you. Gun takes veiled shots at Marvel a lot. I didn't disagree with that. I never said that. I never said that he. He's just saying he agrees with me.

He's not coming against you. He's just saying, no, he's saying he agrees with those points. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't disagree with that point that he takes shots of Marvel. I just don't think that he's got his, is the sycophant stuff and over that what you were saying. I go a little far. Yes. Julius Wyatt needed Josh Allen to score 40 points on my fantasy football.

Shout out to him. Was that the SEC championship game? Go dogs, baby. I got 61 points off him yesterday and I won my matchup. I don't know. I have two weeks left and I'm a game behind everybody else. So Josh Allen may have got me into the playoffs. we will see we shall see um okay for an emperor i'm glad that you're feeling better christian i i'm

getting there i'm getting there like 75 i'm like 75 percent right now i think but like i got yeah i got i got i got beat you're gonna see it in the freaking um we did the reaction to uh thor which will come out this which will come out this friday okay and um the first one the first you don't like the first one i like the first yeah so we did a reaction to thor and i was it was it was I'm saying the idea of doing the reaction. I was I was I was really starting you could see me you could see me in in the video. There was one point I hope that they cut it out of the edit. I try to I was trying to watch and hold back a cough and I go like like that because I was trying to hold it back.

I was like oh my God, I hope they cut that out. So anyway, I'm feeling a little bit better though for sure. And then he follows it up by saying for me the substance is the best of 2025. It's a joke that it's under comedy. It's it better win from there though. Yeah, like I said, I think it's a very I understand why people love it. I should say that I understand why people love it I think it is a very solid film. I think there's great performances. It's a unique film. It's a different film and I was I was on as on board with that movie in the first two acts as I was the what was the one I loved last year with the was it pretty little that pretty little things. That's a that's poor things poor things. Poor things is the show really little but yeah poor things. Um, poor things was a movie almost like the opposite.

Poor things when I started watching was like, I was going to shut it off. And then I loved that movie. Love that movie. And I, the substance, I start while I'm like, oh, this is going to be this year's poor things. And then the ending, I was like, eh. But I don't know. Do you think it's the best of 2025? I do not.

Okay. Okay. Okay. What's your, is Dune still your favorite? That's your number one. June part two is probably my favorite. but again, I haven't seen a complete unknown and I haven't seen the Brutelist.

So we will see where I put those. Because Nosferatu was a late contender to get into my top. I couldn't believe when I walked out of the theater how much I love that move. Are you a big Dylan guy? Dylan? Like Bob Dylan? Yes.

Yes, yes, yes, yes. So I'm looking forward to this one. I don't think it'll overtake doing for you, but I think you really enjoy it. Yeah. Julius Wyatt. Shame that Deney is his only director, Nama's arrival.

I love Arrival. I love that movie. I think he was direct. Yeah, maybe. I thought, okay, go ahead. Sorry. Yeah, I love that movie. I think he was nominated.

He was nominated for Dune. No, he was he? Yeah, Doom Part 1. I think he was nominated for Oscars. I'm looking up right now. Academy Awards. Arrival, 2017, nominated 2022. No, nominated for Best Picture, Best Adapted Screenplay,

Not Director. Okay, yeah. Again. So you got, you got screwed twice. Right. Corn Emperor says, Roka, when is your political channel starting? Get out of your funk and be the badass that you are. We'll see.

We'll see. Yeah. You got to give up on it? No, it's not that. You got to climb back up. And I'm starting to see more and more people now, starting to comment and push back and have opinions about this. The more that guy lies about everything that he said he's going to do and not do.

And the hubris of it all. And the fact that the numbers have come in, and it was way closer than anyone anticipated, and the numbers in the house are closer to. So now I think people are slowly starting to wake back up and want to get back in the fight, and I think that's when the moment will be when I do it. But I also got to figure out how you can just keep your videos to yourself and how you can stop other people from manipulating your videos to push lies and falsities. and that's the thing that I want to figure out how to do.

I don't know if you can. That's an internet thing. I don't think you can, man. That's the thing I've got to get over because I don't want to help other people make their channel successful by lying about my content and manipulating my content to convey a false message about what happened in my content. Corrin Emperor, support just for Roka. There you go.

Artem. Hey, John, how upset were you to wake up at 4.30 a.m. on Saturday just to see that Liverpool match got canceled. to a yeah I woke up at five because we have to wait for the lady outlaw we watch it together so we're going to watch it at seven I was recording it but I you know I'm an old man sometimes I get up I got to go to the bathroom at five in the morning I saw just by happenstance that it had been delayed because of the storms and I was like okay I guess we're sleeping in and we slept until nine so in the end it worked out for us we got some nice uh nice alone time her and I got a great um a story for you real quick on on Macy oh yeah little one she's she wanted to play yesterday she's like or is yesterday to you whenever it was she's like I'm gonna she sets up she's like dad play store with me I was like okay she's she's one she had this bracelet thing she just want to make me a bracelet I was like okay you make me a bracelet so she's like what do you she like what do you say what do you want and I was like

okay which ones that one that was great and she goes how much I said oh okay so so I drop in a penny right and so she's like okay and so she's like okay and so she's making it and I gave her a quarter she's like got any one more quarter she's like you need one more quarter I'm like, okay. So I give her an awkward. So 50 cents to, 51 cents to make a bracelet. So she comes right back. She makes her.

I go, I go, can you tie it up? She goes, no, I can't. She goes, no refunds. And walks away. Seven years old. Making deals. She's like, you can't tie it. No refunds.

As is. You bought it as is. You should have measured your wrist. 100%. Nerds engage. What is a movie that you thought was great up until the ending? For me, it's due and two. Really a great fantastic masterpiece of a film until the last five.

Oh man, I loved it all the way until the end. I would probably say the substance. I thought the substance was great. And the ending just kind of ruined it for me. I was like, oh, that's where they went with that. They had so much more potential. I think the end of Matrix Revolutions. Wait, you've been doing this over and over and over again?

What was the point of me watching this whole trilogy? Right. That was the frustrating part of that movie. Jim one, fun fact. Deny and Sean Levy are both Montrealers. Hmm. Oh, really? How come Denise speaks with the French accent

and Sean Levy does not? I wonder. JMZ 1121. First films ranking, first blood, diehard Terminator. For me, I'd have to, oh, that's a tough one. If I was going to rank them. Oh, rank those three. Out of those three for the first bloods. First blood die hard and terminator.

Oh man, that's so hard. I hate to do this. I hate to do it. But I got to go die hard Terminator First Blood. But I could change my mind tomorrow. First Blood would always come in third out of those three. Okay. But because and plus the fact that I just, I love them first blood movie.

I love it. But the book is significantly better, significantly. It's totally different. Significantly better. And Die Hard is just, they're both perfect movie. but I think diehard is diehard is is more perfect yeah die hard is number one yeah it's just you know you compare it to everything it's perfect uh then first blood just because I love the military connection and I think Stallone is one of his greatest performances

and then Terminator as third because I you know I think there's still issues with Terminator oh it's a film overall but it's still a fun watch so yeah that's what um uh Sahita k k haven't seen the substance yet but do you think it would have made twice as much money with with Angelina Jolie. Why do you think she doesn't do such films? Well, she just did. I mean, she just did Maria, right? Yeah, that was what she was focused on. Yeah, she was doing that. No, I don't think, I mean, do I think it would maybe got more buzz on it? I don't know, maybe, but like, no, it had nothing to do that. It's a smaller kind of weird film. I would argue it did better because it had Demi Moore. Yeah, she doesn't have a love for Demi. And

they want to see her succeed over and over and over again. And now she's back with a film and people can reappreciate her again so there's a lot of people i think that went that would not have gone if it was joly i'll be honest with because i don't get maria film is going to do well at all in the box album no did it come i didn't come out yet not yet but i don't think it's going to do well uh ardom should mlb implement salary cap i mean professional athletes deserve all the money they get a 51 million dollars a year for 15 years i know it's crazy but didn't but they have but they have the penalties don't they still have the luxury tax it's like so i mean it's not the same but no they shouldn't do a salary cap.

I mean, the whole, it would just change completely. And major league baseball wouldn't want that because major league baseball wants the Dodgers versus the Yankees. Don't do it. And if there's a salary cap, it ain't going to happen. And those small market teams benefit from the luxury tax, the big market teams, A, so that would just ruin money-wise. It would make it actually less parity than we have now, even less.

Let's see. So I got an evil John Madden quote. Hey, you want it? You want it? Let's bring it evil. All right. Hey, John, you're slipping. As a champion of all things, diversity, I heard a peep.

I haven't heard a peep out of you about the Santa Claus in the Macy's Day parade or Santa's in big Hollywood movies. Even Dave Chappelle said we aren't ready for a black Santa. Well, I'm going to put a black Santa up behind me. So evil John Madden, you're going to have to suck it for a while. I'm sorry. And I didn't, I didn't, I don't watch the Macy's Day parade. so I didn't hear anything about it. But I'm going to have me a blanta behind me.

So you better suck it, son. Well, he wasn't, he was, Santa, Santa wasn't like Mrs. Claus was. Oh, Mrs. Claus was black. Oh, interracial. Love it. Yeah. I love it. So he'll say, Tadah, K, Dune 1 and 2, technically great, emotionally vacant for me.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. All right. I'm going to agree to disagree. Brian O'Neill loved Gladiator 2, but Lucius was unnecessary. Might have been better if Paul Meskel.

was communist based the bastard son and that's why he was smuggled out of room. Oh, interesting. Interesting. That could have been interesting to us. That would be interesting. You were not on the show when this happened. There was, oh, what awards was it? I'm talking about Dune getting screwed.

And you'll be more pissed off of this than I was. I can't remember what list it was, but there was a list that came out that list of all the best films, the top 10 films of the year. And Gladiator II was on that list over, uh, Dune's. two i think it was national board of review that's what it was had gladiator two on their top 10 i like gladiator too but in no world does that movie get put over dune two no ridiculous that i give you a list revoked um but hard for me look i i think lucius was necessary in the story that they told but i don't hate brian o'neal's suggestion there i like his suggestion i think would have made it more intriguing yeah for sure um armada is mad hatter and richard working at the golden gloves

Armada, normally what I would do for you there is pop into a Mad Hatter and Richard impression in order to talk about the Golden Globes. But I don't think that I can do it right now with my voice. I can't. I'm literally trying, but I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. Can you do voice modulation on your road?

Is that possible? No, but for Richard, Richard's like, hey, listen, honestly, working at the Golden Globes, I should, I should do. I do not know why you're not putting it up there. It's impressive what they did with the sandworms. And I have a sandworm in my pants. Every time I see Mrs. Gary on the facts of life. Nice. Thank you, Richard.

Oh, hey, by the way, I spent an hour on Dice's Instagram. Oh, I told you. I got three of my other friends, you hooked on Dices. We had a text train last night. I told you. It's the best. Like an hour. It's the best.

And, you know, I saw my big chain. I saw one that he did, and this is why I really love it. I don't know if you saw this one is a new one. You've got to get him on. You have got to get him on your channel. I would love to. And please, can I come on for like 10. I know, I know.

You know, it's funny you say that. I'm going to actually write to the company and see if I can get him on that. You got again. So this is the thing I liked about his Instagram. I think there's a recent ones. You might have seen it if you were going through the recent ones. Yes, yes. So there's this guy sitting on the bench.

And this guy is not having a good day. No. He's not having a good day. He's not having a good day. Dice goes up to him and he goes, hey, you the pitch. And the guy goes, leave me alone. I want to be left alone. And Dice is like, oh, all right. And he goes, it's not the guy. But he doesn't bother the guy. He gives it a shot and realizes the guy's just not having a good day. And he leaves him alone. But he got enough out of it to make it a really good video. But he wasn't because there's some of

these videos like, you know, you scroll through him on Instagram and there's these pranks. And I hate them. I hate, like this, there's just people being dicks. And like, oh yeah, and they get punched in the face.

It's a prank, bro. It's a prank. You should be punched in the face with a hacksaw, Jim Duggan, and two by four. Oh,

yeah, that should be the joke. It should be, yeah, that should be the law of the land. It's that if they pull those pranks, you should be able to pull a baseball bat out easily. There's one guy.

There's one guy. And he's so obnoxious. And he's this big, goofy guy. And he's so obnoxious. And he just bothers people in grocery stores. And then it's like, I was like that's what people want to see but Dice doesn't do that Dice is like

he just goes up and he's like um hey you think okay I don't normally do this but and and he's like but he's taking a goof on himself knowing that people don't know who he is anymore but now people are starting you because of the thing it's so good it's so good I'm chasing the guy across the street I thought you wanted to take did you see the Seinfeld one no oh you got to find the signfield He's chasing Seinfeld in Central Park. He's a big shot comedian. Hey, big shot.

And then he goes, hey, Jerry, it's dice. And then they, they cut to him smiling with dice in a picture. Conavale was great in the restaurant. He recognized him immediately. He totally blew up his spot. Oh, so good. Brooklyn, showing some love for Roca support. Thank you.

53, is we have 20 minutes left. I know, 70 is possible, man. 70 is possible. Come on. All right. 17 more. Yeah, I think you got a shot here to get to start it up. All right.

Next one coming in hot here. And speaking of that, I mentioned McCougar didn't come on the show last week. We're still trying to get him. And on this Wednesday, I got Clark and Sam on the show. And they will be live. EWalk. Hey, guys, thoughts on Wyatt Russell,

joining the Spielberg UFO movie. Fun fact is both he and his dad, Kurt, have their own really. UFO sightings. That is interesting. I didn't know that. I would love to see more. I'd love to have him on, obviously, talk about a little bit more. But I am very curious on what this movie is going to be about and how much they cover with what's actually been going on, if at all, in the last two years. I posted a video today. Ross Coldhart, who's a journalist on News Nation, he had a comment today that he from things that he's hearing he believes that um 2025 his words all hell are going to

break loose in the first in the first few months now my video and what i said inside of that video is there's been a lot of that talk lately yeah you know it's one of the and to be fair the guy in the video who he's co-hosting with says the same thing says you know something better happen in those first three months you're going to be held accountable for it basically yeah but if something big does happen in the beginning of 2025 right his movie starts going in production in 2025 let's say something massive happens you got to change your movie if it's starting to be like okay well look there's something actually that was proven here um or you just go into the fantasy of what Spielberg always did right what do you think uh yeah i think he's gonna because i mean the the wheels

i mean the the the ball's already rolling so i think he's going to do the film that he wants it now will he allude to whatever blows up 2025 probably if something blows up in 2025 probably but i don't think he's going to change his entire movie to fit whatever that is or whatever that will be because you can't you can't direct the movie concerned about that blowing up necessarily and how much of that's going to be true and prove it i mean you know you got people talking about aliens underwater and stuff and it's it's getting to where it's getting all the way out there and so i think that's the problem we need to kind of slow down, take it step by step, get those files released, get more of the information out there, then move towards where we're moving and find out what happened.

So yeah. We'll have a longer conversation about it. All right. Go, Paul, just showing some support. Korean emperor, who says, on our way to 75. Oh, hey. He's trying to get you 75. You got 55 so far.

Crash in Coyote. James Gunn did Brightburn. That ain't a comedy. He did not direct it. It's not a comedy. He did not direct it. He produced it. We're talking about directing and writing.

Did he write, right, right, Byper? Might have wrote it. Might have wrote it. Didn't direct it. But he didn't direct it. But wrote it, wrote it might be, did he write it or did you write it with Dave? Can you double check? Yeah, I'll take a look.

I'm wondering, maybe, maybe. Not even a good movie, so I don't know why we're going crazy. But no, but it's not that, I don't think that's their point, which the point, the point is that he can do, you know, other stuff, other than that's a horror, but I'm curious. I think Dave wrote that, though. Brian Gunn and Mark Gunn are listed as the rights. Right. He didn't even write.

Brooklyn, breaking. Animation is for children. Stop that. Don't do it, Brian. Don't start a fight. Brooklyn. Go, Paul. Did you all meet Merle through the Null connection? Or was that just a coincidence? It seems like you'd have been gone before he got there. No, no, no. I didn't even know.

I didn't know he went there. I didn't know Drew McQueenie. and Drew Bacquini went way before John and I went. Yeah, yeah, there, Sturger was after us. So there are quite a few people in our circle that were in. And I just met I met Dan through through doing screen junkie stuff. He wasn't even on camera when I met him. He was, he was an editor.

Right. At the time. So that's how I knew. Who knew? I mean, I think they all kind of knew how good he was and talking. But I got to, I actually got to reach out to Dan because I got to figure out. it went it went and if we're going to do our show running out of time i know i know i know i got to reach out to him today it's part of my uh don't you big time us dan don't you effing big time i haven't he told me

he was going to do i haven't reached out to him yet don't make me i will fly to arkansas and and and beach in trivia again i will beat you in trivia yet one more time damn uh the callie kid what are your favorite movie performances of the year that's that goes back to what i was saying where i need to see everything i got to see everything but i'll tell you shalomey is up there with that Dylan performance. Oh, really? Yeah, he's up there. He's up there because it ain't easy to do Dylan, man. It ain't easy to do Dylan. Um, hey, when you're going to be a nand, hey, James guns and a reshoots, no reshoots here for me. Uh, only a pickup being is now in them heaven now. John Roke, gonna hate the rocks. Um, Troy Ortiz. What's your opinion?

Nah, try to undo that. What? No, what is it? To be. We can't be afraid of it. What's your opinion on DEE hires versus hiring the best people in Hollywood? Well, you have to prove something as a DEI hire, right? Just because the person is of color or it's a woman or a person is a foreigner or immigrant, it doesn't mean it's a DEI hire. You weren't in the room. So how do you effing know?

So that's the thing. I understand narratives and it's, I understand that there can be stuff to prove certain narratives, but you have to be able to prove it. And just because these people are a certain way, doesn't mean you've proved it. So to me, you always want to hire the best person for the job, but you also want to be aware of what's going on overall with the situation.

And you want to give opportunities to people who maybe didn't come from the best situations, the best educational backgrounds, the best access to things like that, and see what they can do. And you'll be surprised at how many people who come from crappy schools and make terrible films and how many people come from oh sorry, come from crappy schools and make great films or come from great schools

and make terrible films. So it's all of a case by case basis is the way I would say. Sahita K. Roka, picking Batman, it's Never lame. On that note, do you think that there's a ceiling for box office, well, with, wait, for B.O. over bow, was Superman's character

perceived lack of edge? Oh, it basically, I think he's starting to ask if there's a box office ceiling for how much Superman can make because it's not as edgy as other heroes. Oh. No, I think the opposite. Yeah. I think that if you can, you know, there's more, if you can get, as I mentioned before, if more families, if more people want to see it, the more, if they can get that, if the wholesome feel can come back. Yeah.

And people, because it all goes in cycles. Yep. There's only so long people want to see the wholesome stuff, the wholesome stuff, the wholesome stuff, the wholesome stuff. And they're like, I like some stuff on the edge. Give me some edge. And then it's like, oh, this is so damn edgy. Nothing. Hey, I want some wholesome stuff.

And it just, it just, it goes back and forth and back and forth and back and forth. And I think that we're at that time when it might actually work to do the wholesome stuff. Yeah, I think we're at a place where we want it. And so I think it'll actually blow up at the box office if it's a wholesome interpretation. Yeah. Yeah. Pete Parker, 2288. You stand at 57, John. Nice.

Come on. way to 70 can we do it time we sign off i don't know peter 2288 indiana jones game is great it's xbox exclusive though troy yeah troy baker does a great job at the voice also is it weird that i'm turned on by the bride which one oh oh then uh in creature commandos no i think that's kind of the point that's the point yeah they kind of made her sexy right yeah i mean they had her having sex with frankins oh don't say they don't don't ruin anything all right i don't want to sorry how many episodes have you seen uh two okay i

I didn't go past the two. I mean, I've got access to the other ones. Yeah, me too. Yeah. All right. So the Cali Kid, it's cool that Kate Winslet got double noms. What did you get nominated for? Lee.

Oh, Lee. And what was the other double nom? I think it was the, um, I forget what else you got nominated for. I'm sorry, I don't have it right now. Let me see. Is it golden globes? Okay. I don't know.

Evil John Madden's back. Eh, well, it's hilarious reading the chat and people calling me a troll. At least Christian knows it's a joke. It might not be funny, but that's a different story. Lesty knows it. Casey knows it. Pete Parker 2288. Will Gators get a bowl game?

Plant that flag. I hope not. I don't care. There's one of the few teams. There's only like, there's like, I think five teams, at least four right off the bat that I can say that I hate. Yeah. I hate the Cowboys. I hate the Gators.

Yes. I hate the Red Sox. Agreed. I think it was my last one. There's somebody else that I hate. I hate the Patriots. I agree. the patrons yeah i'm sure i hate manchester city for as a liberal fan so yeah me too oh so k's nominated for lee

and the regime on the tv side oh right right right right okay sehita k watching the stream with your oh i hate the astros i hate the astros i hate the astros oh bang a trash can hate those astros bang a trash can watching the stream with your two faces interrupted for a youtube ad for hymns was hilarious no shade no shade none taken have a good day I have a good holiday season, gentlemen. Thank you, I appreciate that. You too. Thank you.

Appreciate that. All right, maybe we can at least close out with 60. You have 58 right now. Okay. Will Youne says, hey guys, throwing in love your way and thanking you for your authenticity and your nitpicking. Thank you.

We need more folks modeling good discourse behavior. That's kind of the point here. That's what we try to do. I think there's too many, I think there's too many super positive channels. And I think there's too many, way too many super hate channels. Like, it's like, it's, too easy to do that. So go, let me, let me pick someone that I don't like, say how much I hate them, and then crack little jokes and do this too. It's easy to do. But in order to go back and forth

on a conversation, have intelligent conversation with people, I think that's more, I think that's more important. I'd be more willing to do that on my channel if I could, if I had a little more faith in the people who were willing to be on the other side of an issue and be open to, you know, conversation as opposed to wanting to hammer their points home and that's it. the Cali Kid. I'm seeing interstellar and IMAX. What are your thoughts? That's probably a really good one to see an IMAX. Yeah, definitely see that one at IMAX. I like that move. I know some people will bash it or whatever, but I know it's a divisive film, but I think it's an incredibly well-made film and it's worth watching. So see it the best way possible in IMAX.

I think it gets better with each watch. Yes. Yeah. Artem, mean tweets, Christian Harleff edition. Christian reads mean tweets for John and Mike and they react. I actually think John did pretty well today with how he did he's in a good mood that's why yeah it's true it's true you get John in the bad mood he tries to put his hand through the television uh Pete marker Pete Parker 2288 hot take live free or die hard is underrated and a fun action movie the jet scene is dumb though the fifth one is garbage fifth one is garbage um wait it's the fifth one the fifth one with uh with Joel Courtney right yeah yeah yeah with Guy Courtney.

Jay Courtney. We see Joel. Jai Courtney. It's bad. The Len Wiseman one is equally, it is not equally, but it is bad. I've never seen the director's cut though, and people tell me it's better. The R-rated version. People tell me the R-rated version is better.

Something extra-watched. Oh, you've never seen it either, right? Oh, I've got to find it. I've never seen it. I've heard that the R-rated version is better. I believe it because I was very upset. I think that R-rated goes hand-in-hand with who John McLean is. He's R-rated.

just who he is like when he shoots a bad guy he f bombs him and takes off it's like that's r-rated and they took that away from him to make more money and i hated that yeah i agree unknown thoughts on papa aceto rumor casting as snake people seem to be an uproar about nothing so go back to our conversation i wrote we we brought it up on um sure i think it was on the on the episode it's step and we talked about it yeah and it's like the bottom line for me is that if ultimately what John was talking about before, to be honest, it's like, look, if you're casting somebody, because they're awesome and their audition was incredible,

and that's what it was, you get the job. Yeah. If you did it because you don't want people to scream at you on Twitter, then that's not what you should be doing. I don't believe that's the case with this. I believe this is a classically trained actor. Well, this is a good damn actor. Really, really good actor.

So, yeah, so I don't know. I don't know how it's, I mean, we know how it's going to pan out as far as how people react. But it's one of those things, though, that it's also if it's a great show, people will forget very fast. Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah, 100%. Steph de Augustini, aka the Marvel Man. Denise Mother Tongue is French and learned English afterwards. Sean Levy grew up bilingual English and French.

Look at it. The more you know. Thanks for clarifying that. More you know. Jim one hey what YouTube channel is that dice guy not a YouTube channel Instagram just just put in Andrew Dice Clay on Instagram and it'll it'll change your life Jim one west side of Montreal is English east side is French there you go what's like what's like you side we're gonna you know it's funny is

we're gonna try to get on isn't that weird that's where George St. Pierre is from isn't I think so yeah yeah because we're trying to get him on to get that episode that of him and Matt together then Star Wars that that that that's a must watch I must watch okay and you know they'll talk about their their two fights too right right right uh Ardum does the amount of followers affect your ability to invite celebrities on your show how does the whole process work I mean it definitely has a thing to do for sure like it's because publicists also want to see certain things as far as so for me what I'm as I'm been working on it long enough

Hopefully, you hope that the publicists that are working with it are familiar with the show and familiar with what I'm going to ask, right? Or not what I'm going to ask rather, but what the kind of things that I normally do in the conversations that I have in those types of things. So they know what their person is getting into when they're getting into the show. Now, I realize as I'm getting more and more into the game of the interview game that there's a process behind the whole thing. And there's also like right now, there's a certain amount of people that I will get offered and I'm getting more. really good names and things too. And then there are certain names that I won't get access to or at least will not get access. I'll be lower on the list of the people that they say yes to. But the more you do it, you hope that, okay, look, look at this, look at this, look at this.

And the more people watch the clips, the more people watch the videos. That's how, if you want to do your part and help, it's up to you, watch the videos. And then you'll start to see that I'll get even, I'll get more and more guests. I won't say bigger and better because I think the guests I've been getting are pretty damn good. I just will get, more guess yep yeah uh roman you saying i am a clone of you is making me have an existential multiverse moment glad we have similar taste though i trust your taste on things yet for sure it seems like it roman uh he follows it up also when are you guys seen craven so here's a bummer that i've been actually going through my own crisis on this yeah i'm supposed to see it tomorrow night yeah

is the premiere of it i'm going supposed to go tomorrow um But I'm still not feeling well. So my problem is, can I go tomorrow? Plus the fact my kids aren't feeling well right now and my wife might need my help. And if that's the case, I might have to miss it and go see it on the weekend. It's gonna be a play by ear type thing.

You're gonna see it tomorrow? Yes, tomorrow. Yes, absolutely. It's a press-only screening. This is my life now. I refuse to go to any more screenings that are not. press only so i'm just i'm not going to do it anymore in san diego and if that means i don't do as many out of theater reactions so be it but at least i'll enjoy the process of seeing the movie much

more than tomorrow is a press only so i'm going yeah uh good so dan i just wanted to say thanks to both of you guys thank you dan and i always look forward to the monday shows roca keep being you man we love it thank you i got no choice that's right uh 62 my man he hit 62 hey 62 nice I told you, not too far away. You almost hit 70, and that's pretty damn good. Corrin Emperor, old man Roka. I'm glad that your co-host didn't agree with you on C-C's. What's that?

Creature Commandos. Oh, okay. So what did they like? On Geek Buddies, yeah, Mike and I had a battle about it because Mike was like, well, how come you're okay with nudity in live action stuff? And we just went back and forth. I said it's about context. And so we came to an agreement or an understanding, I think we came to.

But it was a good debate, I thought, over that kind of stuff. I like debating with you. I like it. You know, I enjoy it. So basically, Mike was right and you were wrong. No, he was not. He usually is. We both gave in a little bit.

Yeah, okay. Julius Wyatt, ranked it in E-films, arrival, Dune, scenario, BR and Prisoner. What's the BR one again? You've got to, the brief- Blade Runner. Thank you.

For me, I would go, and well, June you're counting as one movie. You'd have to, I think. If you're counting as one movie, then I'd have to, put Dune 1 and 2 as the first. Then I would put Arrival. I know you won't agree with that.

Then I would put Sicario. Then I would put Prisoner. And then I put Blade Runner. Yeah. So I would, I definitely would have Dune part to it at number one. Or Dune Part 1 and two at number one. I would put Sicario next.

Then Blade Runner, 2049, then arrival, then prisoners. I think Arrival is the most accurate version, though, of what time. time travel is as far as like science right what could with consciousness and all that stuff and I loved it um I just loved it elven hey guys I just canceled my peacock subscription since the WWE is now going to Netflix are you going forward for the move and future programming but isn't but who's doing who's doing their PLEs I think it's

going to be on Netflix because they just announced they just announced Royal Rumble on Netflix on February 1st on their social media so you don't have to pay for if you have Netflix you just get it yep wow that's game-changing stuff so they're getting all their PLEs Netflix is see you later oh wow I didn't know that I thought they were just getting raw no no they're getting all of their PLEs too yeah oh my God that's oh my God Netflix is very say what you I mean now you got a really you better get you better get your shit together in Netflix when it comes to the the stuff that

They live streaming that happened. Yeah. All right. Captain Penis. Has Roka used the Vaya promo code? Have you? Yeah. Are you, are you a THC guy?

No, I don't do that stuff. I did it in the past. I stay away from that stuff. And no offense to anybody who doesn't. It's just not something that I don't think I can do at this age of my life. That's what I would say. Oh, man. Via.

Who goes gummies for sleep. Wonderful stuff. maybe I'll try because I have I have trouble sleeping sometimes so it's it's gumming and you pass out your wonderful dreams and you know it's it's I'm telling you dude it's my favorite part of it say it in every promo that I talk about it with because they say you know what's your favorite part of it and it's like there's a lot of it but via the sleep stuff it's called dreams on there oof a plus all right that's it 62 oh call it a Monday thank you all right locked in 62 John, all right, you're out.

Where can they find you? Yeah, you guys, you can find me at the Roka says on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok, the Outlaw Nation on Twitch. My YouTube channel, please come on over. Have some fun with our breakdowns, analysis, and debates there on the Outlaw Nation. YouTube.com slash John Roka says, please come on over and hang out. Thanks, Christian. Much love.

I'll see you next time, man. Thank you to John. Thank you to you guys. Go better. Thanks, man. Thank you to all you guys. And make sure that you go to Apple Podcasts. go to Spotify, go to anywhere, podcasts are found.

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