The Kristian Harloff Show - REWATCH! The Animatrix (2003) | The Big Thing

Episode Date: December 10, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:35 It was pretty good, wasn't it? I thought so. Did you watch it? Well, it's going to be public today on the Shmodown channel, so make sure you check it out. All right, listen, I'm not talking about Shmodown right now. We're talking about the Matrix. A lot of Matrix, a lot of Matrix. Why?
Starting point is 00:00:48 Last week we did a Matrix rewatch. Today we do the Animatrix rewatch, which I haven't seen in a long time since it came out. And this all leads up to Matrix Resurrection. And we'll be doing the next two following weeks as we get to the release of the new movie. Can't wait to do it. I've got Coyd Andrew. I've got Kate Mulligan here. We're going to be talking about that.
Starting point is 00:01:12 I'm excited to do it. Let's get going. It's going to be a little bit of shorter episode here today. But nonetheless, it's still an episode. So stop you whining. Let's do it. You didn't whine. I'm whining.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Let's go. Welcome back. Ladies and a gentleman. It is. Big thing. Cianna Matrix. joined as always by our Matrix expert, Kate Mulligan. I was really about to do this.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And Corey Jan. We were ready. That's right. Last week we did the first movie, the one that started it all, kicked us all off, and now we got this one. So Kate, you watched this one, and you were, obviously, this was the one that confused you the most. You have a lot of questions, even more questions about this one. Well, listen, I'm going to tell you, liking something and understanding something. difference.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah, there's a difference. And I feel like I really liked this. I really liked it. I think it's like visually so beautiful. There was like one of the, there was some animation that like actually like took my breath away. Which one?
Starting point is 00:02:17 There's, God, the one with the girl and she is with the cat. That one. Yeah. Also, there was another one. There was like simple, there was simple stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Yes. Some of the runner one was good. You know, it's funny. It's funny. I wouldn't have said this, obviously. If I watched this a year ago,
Starting point is 00:02:35 but it reminded me of my experience when I was watching Star Wars Visions. Oh, yeah. So Star Wars Visions, which came out recently and Disney Plus, where a lot of these different anime tales inside of Star Wars. The difference, though,
Starting point is 00:02:46 is that those Star Wars are not canon. Right. This is canon. This is canon to the overall story. There's stuff that ultimately plays in to the second movie. Like there's the scene... I don't know the second movie.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Right. But now you'll know... So you'll know, and I can tell you that when you know that scene of the or not the scene, but the short of when the kid who's dreaming and the Neo helps him out and he jumps up the thing and tells him he doesn't die, he wakes himself up.
Starting point is 00:03:13 That kid is in the second movie. He's like an actual full-on character. That's important to the story. Yeah, and he says because he's like, Mr. Popper. Yes, yes. Because remember he says to him at the end, he says he said, you save me, he's like, you help yourself kid.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And I think Neo says that to him in the actual movie too. Yeah, it gets repeated. And the metaphors in that are then used well in the movie. So this does help enhance. I don't think it's like mandatory, but I think it's really essential. It's not mandatory.
Starting point is 00:03:38 You won't lose anything if you don't watch it. But what you do pick up, though, they don't try to shine away that it's the humans that cause all of this. Yeah. Because the robots even went to court and said, Hey, look. We want to figure out her own thing. We want to be friends with you guys.
Starting point is 00:03:54 And then they beat the piss out of them and they destroyed them. They destroyed the sky. Yeah. Beautiful use of wartime imagery. Like there's so many shots where they're, framed like iconic pieces of our human history. There's a lot of visuals that were like the Tiananmen Square moment or like, yes, yes, yes. I love that they used robot imagery in human aggression.
Starting point is 00:04:15 That way we could feel the trauma of reliving it from the side of the robots. Because then you identify with the robots subconsciously and consciously. And I really enjoyed both Renaissance part one and two. I think those are my favorites, the story of how we got here. And the animation there, I love fractals and I love the idea of like picture and a picture and a picture in a picture as you zoom out because if you look at microscopes going into things and macroscopes looking at the universe
Starting point is 00:04:38 it's insane how many parallels there are. So I really enjoyed that those episodes started by zooming in through those fractal imagery and zooming out through the fractal imagery because it's kind of telling of what we are as a species and what the story it's telling of our whole experience and they really did a great job making it traumatic. There's so many moments in that
Starting point is 00:04:54 that you really don't side with teen human. Right. But then other stories where you're like, ooh, those are the oppressor. And that's a better war story than most war stories are told. Because there's no villain there. It's the Batman line, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:05 You're long enough to see yourself become the villain because that's exactly what happens to the machines. Because the machines are, ultimately, at first, they just want to be there to please their masters. Right. And then they are given no respect.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And then they want to be sentient, like they're separate. Yeah, and then they go off to create their own nation. They want to be part of you guys now. And then they're told no. So when the war starts, they're,
Starting point is 00:05:24 well, fuck you guys. And then they wind up kicking the shit out of all of them. And there is like that kind of, it very harkens back to, to slavery and everything that happened with the revolt against the the owners and and then um what happens though in this story was that is that the the as there's more of that evolution look very similar like planet of the apes too yeah so when you look at what happened because because you're on board and and in avatar right because you're in you're on board in with planet
Starting point is 00:05:53 the apes with caesar and and you are on board with the apes and you're saying you know what I understand why they're doing this. And you feel weird doing it because they're going as humans. But by the time we get to the Charlton Heston one, you're not on their side because they have now ultimately become the same thing that they were fighting against. And that's what the machines have done. By the time we get to the Matrix,
Starting point is 00:06:16 by the time we get to the actual Matrix, they're now breeding humans for power and all that. Even though it was the humans who tried to block out the sky, they have ultimately become the villains, but they didn't start out that way. And I think they do a really good job making sure that we have an eye line throughout all of that. Because this is a really hard story to be like, who do we identify with? And the back and forth in those two animated sequences where they've got the government officials versus the underdog robot versus the soldiers versus the...
Starting point is 00:06:45 There's always someone we're connecting with. And I think that's really impressive as someone that doesn't watch a lot of animation. I usually have a trouble connecting. Like there's an uncanny valley and looking at the eyes of something and not feeling like it's looking back at me. In this, every single one of these eight or nine segments, I felt connecting. did to that story. Yeah, well, it was, it was the tie-in to the ultimate, the grander story, right? And like there was, the first two are very fascinating because it's, it goes back to when
Starting point is 00:07:11 Morpheus is telling Neo all of this stuff, how they tried to block out the sky. And there is that kind of really daunting scene when they block out the sky and then all the government, yeah, yeah, cheering. You're like, oh, it's gross, right? And then the battles of everything that they're having, it's like, it's like, it's, It's like there is that tie in like global warming and all that. Yeah, we feel like we've seen similar scenes. And the irony is they've used similar scenes to make us identify with the robots.
Starting point is 00:07:38 But we're seeing similar scenes with the humans that make us identify with us as the enemy. Yes. Okay. So lots of panties. That's what I wanted to. Lots of panties. There is a lot of panties. It's true.
Starting point is 00:07:49 That's what I wanted to say, guys. Every segment. Almost everyone got some panties. What was the last time you watched this? Before this, it had been like a decade. I do not watch this that all. Same. And I'm really, really.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And I'm really glad I did because it improved. I thought it was good. This was great. It did. And again, I think that after watching visions, it helped even more so. But the last one, which is the most matrix out of all of them. And that's the one with the machine that they, that's when they're trying to reprogram the machine.
Starting point is 00:08:18 No, no, no, no. That's not the last one. The last one was the one where it looked like a video game where the, where the, oh yeah, they're cutting each other's. The flight of us is the first one in my Blu-ray. Oh, you have a Blu-ray. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's funny. We can't talk orders then. Yeah, Flight of Osiris is my first one.
Starting point is 00:08:33 That's, no, that's on HBO Max, it's the last one. Oh, that's interesting. I think because it ties back in, maybe they switched it around. On HBO Max, it's the last one. They're cutting each other's clothes off. Yes. And now another no-brainer money-saving tip from Progressive. It looks like your luggage is over 50 pounds. Is there anything you can take out?
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Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah, that's a lot of pants. So they open with that one? A little peeky peaks. Yeah, that's the first one of the Lurang. Is it really? Renaissance one and two. That's our second. That's second and third.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Oh, that's first and second. So Flight of Osiris, I love that we got basically machines making humans sexy because we're using CGI. in a movie about machines. And then we get that entire action sequence, which I think that's why it opened the movie because you're like, that's the most photorealistic.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So let's put people in this world. It's that it's also the most connected to the matrix. Yes, but I think that that's probably why they end with it. And the new cut because you're, because you're ultimately leading into the next movie. I wonder if other things are juggled. Well, because that whole thing is doesn't that and I'm trying to remember.
Starting point is 00:09:52 And I have, because we're going to be doing the rewatch of the second one next week. But they're the ones that got the, It's like Rogue 1. Yes, they get in. They sacrifice themselves. And they get it to, I think, Jada Pinkett, right? They'll say they get the, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And that all ties into the video game, which is really cool. The video game was dope. It was great. The video game played it. And it was canon also played into all that stuff. That's, that one's harder for us to rewatch and play through. Yeah, I remember playing the game. I love that.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Dude, and the fight, enter the Matrix. Oh. And you literally enter the Matrix and it's cool because you, you see storylines outside the matrix. But as soon as you plug in, you've got fight skills. Roy Jones juniors in that one too. And you, yeah. Play is Jady Pinkett.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Smith. That's right. Oh, I remember it. I love that. It was all canon written by the Wachowski? Yes, yes. Was the,
Starting point is 00:10:35 was Animatrix written by the Wichos? Produced. No, they wrote some too. They wrote some, but I don't think it's old. I thought they wrote it. Let me look.
Starting point is 00:10:40 When I looked at, I was watched a lot of the credits at the end because Kianna Reeves and. He voices, yes. I looked up a voice that I thought I recognized. And so does and so does Trinity. And Carrie Amost does both. Because,
Starting point is 00:10:52 and that one I loved, the film noir one with Trinity. Yeah. And like how he's, Like that guy, he's almost figured his way out. And she's about to show him. And there's so much tragedy in this entire series. The Animatrix is really sad.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Like nobody really makes it through for the most part. It's like there's a lot of. And by the way, even going back to the, well, there are a toss attached to Alden. That's what I thought. Yeah, you're right. That's what I thought. Because this was, this was supposed to be a direct connect, connective tissue right into that
Starting point is 00:11:26 second movie. Right. Yeah, because it was this basically because there's so much inside of it that it shows you how all the shit went down in the first place. Then it shows you people that are actually in the matrix that don't know how to get that don't know they're in the matrix. There's also establishing that rule of the runner that you guys just mentioned of how he pops out of the matrix without even having a red or blue pill. That it's not it's not common, but it happens. and they established kind of all these rules. I would have liked to see them do some of those stories.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I want an HBO Macs series out of this. That would have been cool too. You can do that now. You can do that, but I also think they're probably going to do a Matrix series tying into whatever this movie is. Sure, but you could do these little one-off stories like to build the world up.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Like I would love to see an anthology. Imagine like a Twilight Zone Matrix. It would have been great, but I would have rather seen some of the stories that they told in this instead of two or three. Oh, I keep hearing that's what it was supposed to be. I think these were stories they'd been intending to test. Should have done it.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Because, I mean, even the samurai scene felt like it was programmed in the Matrix. And that would have been a story they could have done. Yeah, because two and three, you'll see. I'm not the same. I don't know. What if I love it, guys? You might. I'd be happy for you.
Starting point is 00:12:34 It's not. It's. Yeah. So I think when you watch two, you'll enjoy it too. Yeah, yeah. I enjoyed two more than I remember because of how much three tarnished me. Like you said last week, two was affected by three to the point where I was like, wait, does two own?
Starting point is 00:12:48 And then three happened. I was like, oh, I'm back. Like, I'm back to that sadness. But what I will tell you those, after you watch the second one, then look up Will Ferrell. Oh my God. As a keymaster. Vis-a-Vee. But Animatrix.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Argo. Argo. It's a TRL. It's MTV Music Awards. And it is transcendent. You got to watch the movie first. Because much like scary movie, you'll see bullet time very differently after. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Argo vis-vis. It's some of his best, not us, not work. Period. That being said, animatrix for me was the first time I thought I want TV adaptations of things I've seen in movies. Because to me, watching all of these in 03 or 04, I was like, oh, give me a serialized bit of content. Give me this world being a more immersive. Then they gave us the video game. And I was like, this is such a comic book like expansive world.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And Wachowski's come from comic books. That's why I asked you about the Flatosaurus because I didn't remember that one at all. And I also was like, did they just add this recently? because it looks, I just recently watched the Polar Express. And that movie came out around the same time that. Very early CGA, yeah. And they're similar as far as how they look, right? And it hadn't gotten there yet.
Starting point is 00:14:03 And I didn't think that the, I didn't think that the tech was there yet at that point, but clearly it was, because it looked to, I relate, I liked this one the best. Yeah. And it wasn't, and I don't know if it's, I'm not, I'm not a massive anime fan.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I appreciate it. I think that it's gorgeous. I just, it's sometimes it, sometimes it loses me. Like in visions, there was like a, a bunny rabbit that was talking and jumping around and people like,
Starting point is 00:14:30 oh, but that's classic anime. I'm like, I don't like classic. Right. I just, it didn't work. The story itself was beautiful,
Starting point is 00:14:36 but there's a, I don't like bunny rabbits. I don't like talking my rabbit and my movies. But there was a lot, but this anime, though, I will say,
Starting point is 00:14:45 there's no, there's no talking bunny rabbits. It feels real. And you're really immersed. You are. And there's a really disturbing image where one of the machines is like cyborg and dressed and basically has become a woman. Yeah. That's in a so traumatic.
Starting point is 00:15:03 And they destroy her. They kill her. They beat her. And it's it is, it is disturbing. Yeah, those two back to back. And then the shot in the face with the explosion out, which is all like all that is so. Well, you feel, you feel sympathy for the machines. in those first two or in your case,
Starting point is 00:15:20 the second two, two, two and three. But there's a lot that they set up very well, but you understand their anger and their angst and you get it. But I'm trying to the other ones that really stood out was the flight of SARS one, the one where they turned, the turning of the robot. That was the last one on mine.
Starting point is 00:15:37 That was the last one. I got the second to last. Okay, so maybe the middle is in the same order. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. It seems like, I think they just moved that around for some reason, but probably to lead you in. to the next movie because it is even listed on Wikipedia as the order I have.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Okay. Yeah, it's weird. HBMX. They changed it up. Shannels. And I bet you that they were very aware that people are going to basically do what we're doing and start watching these movies tying into it and they want to connect it that way. And I wouldn't be surprised at Lana Wachowski was like, order it this way.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Yeah. Because that ties into it in general. The one I enjoyed, I think the most now versus the first time was kids story. which is the one that ties directly in remote. It is such a special experience to really reframe our reality and really put like feeling oppressed and feeling outsider. Like we talked about the Matrix and freeing your mind in that way. He takes NeoSpot.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Yeah. And I don't know if that would get made today. Because, you know, we have a lot more commentary on mental health and suicide and those things. And it is a very interesting thing to look at it in that way. Obviously not knowing what reality is versus that suicidal choice. Like it's a very jar. experience of me being a person who doesn't know if there's anything after death, wondering what that experience is like for people watching this that have a certain
Starting point is 00:16:55 religious connotation or people that are a certain way, like what that that one means to them. Because it is very clearly like a spousing suicide for freedom. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. It's a good point. And it is, it's another one that's also pretty devastating overall because you're like even the teacher who's chasing him around, like you don't know if he's in on it. Right. And you have agent moments where they, they frame him with the agent class, but he's not,
Starting point is 00:17:17 but he's an authority figure. Yeah. At the end of the day, and they, they kind of, you know, put this in all the movies is the suit,
Starting point is 00:17:23 the buttoned up, like Neo going from Queen Cut and suited to like, you know, obviously now in the fourth one, he's full like, you know, long hair and bearded,
Starting point is 00:17:29 but you see the relaxation. He's Junwick, but do we see the relaxation of the characters? And any authority figure in these is more robot-like. Right. Is more of the oppressive side?
Starting point is 00:17:40 I don't remember. And the new one, is he wearing the potato sack? Again, is Neo wearing that potato sack sweater? Sometimes. Oh, I don't know. In the real world?
Starting point is 00:17:47 I'm not sure. We haven't seen a lot of them in the real world in the trailer. You see it a couple times. I got questions about the real world. I see a couple times. I'm curious. But the question is, who is washing their asses out in there? Because you've got to wash your ass out in the future.
Starting point is 00:18:01 With all those panties, you really got to make sure it's clean. When you've got panties, the way that this place has, uh-oh. You got to do it. You need to get the man his glasses. Uh-oh. See them. Okay. Oh, there we go.
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Starting point is 00:21:05 It's so investing. I'm really care about everyone. It's a great point that you make, though, earlier the two. I wonder if, so I just had a conversation recently with someone about like the old republic in Star Wars, right? And I think that as you know, I've talked about how I prefer the shows for Star Wars now over movies. However, I do think if they did like an old republic, three old republic movies then lead into a series establishing that time. That could work because we don't know much about that time. I feel like they could do the same thing for Matrix now because
Starting point is 00:21:35 you have basically put two and three in the rear view and you're reassessment. establishing and rebooting and resurrecting the franchise with this new movie, depending on how they set it up. And if it's done well, use all your mediums. Yeah. And if it's done well, give me a series. Yeah. And I really think they should because it's such a, it's more topical now than a 99. Like I said last week, between Web 1 and Web 3, it's always right on the edge of being prophetic. If Resurrection is as good as I think it's going to be, we're going to need more outlets to tell all these stories because arguably now we're in more of a cautionary tale because we're further along. We're inventing robot dogs. We're inventing things. We're inventing
Starting point is 00:22:09 things that are in these anime movies, like things that are in these movies are happening live. And that's terrifying. It's funny how you can predict the future that way through technology. I remember being, it must have been third grade. And I'll never forget this. And it was so foreign and not real that you'd be able to buy your groceries on at home and just get them delivered to your house. It was so futuristic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And this is like third grade. I remember whatever story this was, it's like people would order stuff and order order wherever they would and they would order it and it would come to them. And I like that, my mom goes to wall down. Yeah. It's crazy. And then it just, that short story and I think that story was written in like the 70s or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And it's amazing how you can, like, it's scary because this is not the only story that talks about AI. It's like Elon Musk. Terrified. DARPA is co-founding a technology where there are robots that can now reproduce on their own. as of this week, they've announced publicly, which means it's two years ago because there's always stuff that's like way more advanced
Starting point is 00:23:13 than what they're releasing in the public. There are robots that are able to reproduce without our assistance. That is the end. Well, that's what they're doing in the, in the animatrix. That's what I'm saying. It's happening now.
Starting point is 00:23:23 In the animatrix, there's that sign with, I think it's the second one or third for you, where they're, do you see that line where they're evolving? Yeah, they're creating their own AI. They're evolving. Yeah, leading up to their big, like, we've controlled the economy. We're willing to share.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And that's also happening. Look at NFT. Look at cryptocurrency. We're doing this unregulated blockchain, so we separate from our governments, which is important for us to separate from our governments. But in separating from our governments, we're separating from our humanity in that we lose everything if a bunch of ones and zeros goes down. If you look back at Fycleb, my other favorite movie, the end of that movie is about destabilizing the government by destabilizing the financial power of the government by wiping all of her credit out to zero. That's all going to happen way easier now if there is no baseline. We get rid of the, the gold standard in the 70s where a dollar could be traded in for a dollar worth of gold. That did nothing to the economy. We were just like, we trust the government enough that it's the same. If we now have a bunch of people telling us what the dollar is worth and then someone just goes, boop, there's no more money.
Starting point is 00:24:21 There are so many people getting ripped off because they're buying like coins and things that aren't legit and then people just steal their money. That's only going to exponentially increase the more we have deregulated, which is important, but there's got to be a balance. So if money's now make-believe, we're screwed. And like, this is the beginning of the Matrix. I mean, there's a lot of that. Are you, are you an NFT guy?
Starting point is 00:24:40 I'm a, I'm a crypto casual, and I'm aware of NFTs to the point where I'm keeping an eye on them, but I feel like it's like the Beanie Baby era where things are going to be worth a lot right now. I do think there's going to be a time when everything's an NFT. I think there's going to be a time where like getting a movie ticket, it's going to be a non-fundable token, which is blockchain shared across the internet so no one can copy it. But I'm personally still like, I don't want to own the Mona Lisa on my phone because you just take a snapshot. Like, I'm not sure of the value for me of non-tangible goods. because I'm such a, like, believe in this world as much as I don't believe in this world,
Starting point is 00:25:12 but I believe in, like, tangible. So, like, I buy my comic books to hold because I can resell that comic. I don't understand how Marvel and DC sell their digital comics for $4 and their analog comics for $4. You can't resell that digital comic. I can resell my tangible copy. So my monkey brain can't go, like, NFT worth anything. Like, I'm not able to process that yet, but I'm keeping an eye on it for the day.
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Starting point is 00:27:32 Thank you so much to Magic Spoon for sponsoring this episode. All right. I got one more thing. It's really important to me if we got time. Yeah, we do. So in the flight of the Osiris, the first or last, depending on your edition,
Starting point is 00:27:44 I've noticed a lot of criticism about the opening being so, like they wasted time with that instead of getting to the action. And like the sexual dance of, yeah, yeah, I was reading reviews today
Starting point is 00:27:55 because I was curious how people had received it over the years. So I was reading some... I was like Christian's trying to see if they have that opening scene on the... I'm an Oculus. They do. Why was it door lock before you?
Starting point is 00:28:05 So, so between people, saying like that was a waste of like tech and stuff. And then the end of the movie, for me, Matriculated was the last one where it was us trying to show the value of humanity to the robot, us trying to, ironically, the beautiful juxtaposition is in the matrix we are convinced of our humanity
Starting point is 00:28:24 being important by machines. And in this short, it's us trying to convince machines of the importance of humanity. Like they're very intentionally inverse. But I loved how sexually charged matriculated was because one of the things that separates us from machines is we're not just replicating. We experience great joy and freedom through sex
Starting point is 00:28:40 and we experience this passionate flow state. Come on, Kate. You got you got kids. It's not worth it. It's got to be important. That's why it's not important anymore. It's a fucking sure. I hate doing it.
Starting point is 00:28:53 But what's so interesting to me is we have as our culture shunned sex more and more because I've talked about it on many, many shows. Like we were founded by Puritans and we've stayed much more a religious country than we actually think we are like we's wearing a Bible and shit. Like we claim we're not this thing that we are. And then you've got people like the Wachowski's who have transitioned from being men to women and clearly are very pro sex through all of their work and are very pro sex work and they're very pro that freedom.
Starting point is 00:29:17 And I mean, we have different sex. But when I'm having sex and it's this flow state of almost escapism, it's almost drug-like, it's almost euphoric and it's almost visually inducing. It's interesting to me that we have that tied to the robots to such a level of this is the thing that makes us human. That's the Zion rave in, and you'll see in the second one. there's such that element and I wonder how other audiences and other countries look at us going like no sex we can only show beheadings but not tits and then you look at movies like this that are like this is how you free your mind this is how you escape and whether or not that resonates to other cultures as strongly because it is such a foundational part of what separates us from the machines like
Starting point is 00:29:54 I imagine in Europe they're like yeah we it's not a big deal bro like why is this a thing for you but it's us being so stifled as a society that I think makes the matrix resonate so much more here if that makes sense. 100% does. I mean, I think that's, there's, it goes back to exactly what we're talking about last week with, with this movie. All those themes are in this animatrix for sure. It stays consistent.
Starting point is 00:30:15 That's why I had so much hope going into the second movie because it's like, oh, okay, well, they haven't missed the beat. Yeah. They didn't miss a beat. Like everything that they, that they set up with the speeches from Morpheus or stuff from the Oracle or things you heard from the agents. It's all right here in this animatrix thing. So obviously this is all going to play in.
Starting point is 00:30:33 They just. try to do too much. And it's amazing that with all the stuff that they do in these nine shorts, they fit so much in. It's only an hour and 40 minutes. I know. And it's and it really and it, and it works very well. And I don't know if people have seen the full animatrix. You can watch it on HBO Max. Apparently in the wrong order. Mix it up. I know. I wonder why they change it up. I'd like to get an answer for that. I need answers. Lana, explain yourself. I need answers for sure. Lily? What do you have to say for yourself? What did you do? Does anybody? So any other closing?
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah, no, I would say if I lived in Europe, I would also probably still not enjoy sex right now. Come on, Kate. Come on. But as far as it. I love it. I feel like it is so, I feel like it is a visually, um,
Starting point is 00:31:18 captivating series. I also didn't know it was shorts until I started watching it. Oh, interesting. Um, because it's called the, you're like, you're going to watch the anime. Right. And so to me, I'm like, that's one long story. Yeah, like that's one entity.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I'm like, it's going to be a, so I love it. And I also, I don't feel like all of the. artists were the same. It felt a lot like visions that there was different artists for the shorts. Well, certainly with the Osaris ones. Yeah, it was nine segments, eight artists because there's a part one, part two,
Starting point is 00:31:43 to the Renaissance. The rest are all different. And I just felt like it was, I don't know, I just really loved watching it. I actually was thinking how, I know, weeds not your thing, but I would love to watch it high too. Oh, 100%. It's just so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Yeah. It's just, and I liked that they kept the music. There's a lot of the music and it's subtle when the music comes in for the Matrix. And the film noir one was really great. I think that the, I don't know which one. I think the one I liked probably the least
Starting point is 00:32:06 and not even that I disliked it. Just like the least was probably the one with the cat. Same here. Yeah. It just, it was doing a purpose of explaining the glitches and stuff, but it didn't like, it felt a little long and the rest didn't for me.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah. That was, it was just dragged out a little bit. It kind of reminded me of, uh, Thor dark rolled when I go into that, that space where they keep like throwing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And the truck just floating and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Remind me to that. But each one handled a differently philosophical quandary and that one is about, you know, the, worlds and all those things.
Starting point is 00:32:34 So I like that if you looked at them individually, you still get a journey. And if you watch it as a whole, you get like this philosophical lesson in the concepts of the Matrix. I really appreciated Renaissance 1 and 2 because I was like, oh, now I understand how we got to where we got.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Because like truly, if we were to watch it in order, which we thought about doing with you. Remember we were like it. It would have been too confusing if you watched that first. Right. I agree. But once I watch everything, I might watch Renaissance 1 and 2.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And then I might watch the Matrix. And then I might, you know. Leading up to opening. While having sex. Well, yeah. Well, doing my duty. Doing my duty.
Starting point is 00:33:10 There's some toys. I'll, I'll take places. I got you. I'll, I used to really enjoy it. And I'm just too fucking tired. I'm just too tired.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I already have so many people touching my body all day long. It's my kids. Right. To be clear. I just want. I just want to, I just want to sit down and play breath of the wild. and like kill.
Starting point is 00:33:33 That's what I'm encouraging is you getting some breath of the wild. Kate, I'm trying to get you the free your mind sex. Listen. She doesn't need it anymore. I don't know. I got. I got what I needed. Although I got to tell you,
Starting point is 00:33:44 I'm like a couple months away from turning 40 and I hear I'm going to get a second wind in my 40s. So I'm excited. I'm looking forward to it. That's exciting. Well, it's not ironic. It's something you don't like. You're looking forward to like you. Yeah, I'm looking forward to the joy.
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Starting point is 00:36:02 Get 25% off your membership. That's FitBod.me slash S-E-N-Live. All right. Let's wrap it up here, kids. Overall, last thoughts on Animatrix? Better than I remembered. Better than the sequels. I think it's actually better than reloaded.
Starting point is 00:36:19 And I had thought comparable to reloaded. I think in this review, it's actually better than reloaded. And I'm someone that struggles with animation and this weirdly while having me, identify with robots when I usually feel disconnected from animation because I don't identify with the humans made me identify with the humans and the robots more enough that it's one of my favorite animas. Does that make sense? Yeah. No. You? I caught none of that. Absolutely beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. No, I just I think that there's still like I think this I feel like all of all of the matrix content is really ripe for rewatch for me. Oh, it makes me so happy.
Starting point is 00:36:53 You know, to pick up more things like the fact that I even missed like, a very big plot point we discussed last week. I was like, how can we do it die? You guys were like, because he didn't believe it. You've seen it once. We've seen it probably. We've seen it so many times. You will watch it again.
Starting point is 00:37:08 You'll start to see. You'll pick it way more. And I think I feel that way about the animatrix too. I'll watch it again and again and again. Well, then I am very curious to see how you're going to feel about next week. Because I have to tell you that many times when we talk about two and three, I get a lot of comments. I'm sure I'll get it on this video.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And I'm sure we got a lot last week about people who really enjoy two and three. Really, there are, I mean, it's not one of those movies. Oh, terrible. Yeah. Some people really like it. But I'm curious to think. We're going to be back for the second movie next week. And if you didn't do this already, please do it.
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