The Kristian Harloff Show - REWATCH! Toy Story 3 (2010) & Toy Story 4 (2019)

Episode Date: June 17, 2022

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my song. It's called the yeah, yeah song. I sang it in my bathtub when I was younger. That's a lie, but that's okay. Hey, everybody, I made your day by doing a toy story. We watched with Coy and Winston. Yeah, I wrote that. I did.

I spent around seven hours getting come up with the right words, just to come up with that. Is that true? No. But I did fart into the microphone last week, one of the big thing episodes. I don't know if you picked up on that. Oh, my mom's proud that I do this show.

All right, so let's get into, oh, yeah, wait, oh yeah, we're doing a Toy Story rewatch. Thanks, kids, for joining here. What the hell is this? Oh, I was wondering what that is. Nice to join you today, joining me on this rewatch. So we're doing a rewatch of Toy Story 3 and 4 in one episode. Why? Because we are getting to the light year release this shoot today.

man, light year comes out today. So my review of the movie is already up on the channel. The full on spoiler discussion will happen with myself, Winston, and Coy this Monday. So we figured we'll get into three and four. Some people say that three is the best toy story of all time. And I might be one of those people. I don't know.

We'll find out in a little bit. But I'm here with Winston. I'm here with Coy. Make sure you subscribe to the podcast feed. Apple Podcast, Spotify. The link is in the disqual. description. It is very, very important that you guys do that. It helps us out tremendously. So make sure you do that. If you haven't already, subscribe, you see that, see that graphic

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Welcome back. It's our fault, Winston. You hear that? Always your fault. Real quick, before we dive into this, someone just sent me a tweet where somebody put on Twitter, show me proof Bernie Mac was actually funny. And I'm like ready to fight somebody.

That's fair. That's not to do with Toy Story, but I just... Bernie Mac was great. It was so funny. hilarious. Legend. All right. We're talking about Toy Story.

Story 3 and Toy Story 4. So we could jump around, you know, as we happen in the conversation, but we'll obviously start with two and, no, excuse me, with three. Now, three was a very interesting way to turn it and change it because it's... Ten years later. Well, it's also the end of our run with Andy. You know, it's moving into this new phase. Ultimately, I think three ends with the Bonnie character.

and, but, like, there's a lot of emotion. Did you guys think that we'll get right into it? Did you guys think any of the toys were going to eat it when you saw it? Oh, 100%. Did you? I really thought that Pixar, because they've given us at this point, 15 years of trauma, that they might end the arc of their toy story starting Pixar with that, with ending it with like your childhood's over, they're dead.

Like, I thought maybe. You thought they were going to go that deep with it, huh? You'd lost, remember, Beau's gone at the beginning of this. Yeah. People's gone. Yeah. No, obviously we'll talk about four that she comes back and we get to see how that happened. But, like, I thought it was a possibility.

Dude, I genuinely was sitting in the theater watching them go towards that fiery death. And I was like, this is it. I think it's one of the best third acts in cinema. I think that scene with the fiery death is amongst the most emotional I've been. I just don't love that whatever is the, uh, uh, the hot, uh, lotso. Yeah. I don't think he got enough of a punishment. No.

Like everybody else, bro. No. I think he deserved way worse than what he got. Yeah. Getting strapped to the truck was like, come on. Like he survived. And like he was pure evil. He literally left them to die.

It's interesting to see that, oh, I'll go to because I moved the chair. It's interesting to see as well that talk about evil being created. He genuinely was very, very, like, but got so broken by seeing him just be very quickly replaced by another version of himself. Like they said, if I can't have her, nobody. he's having her. If I can't be the one that nobody's getting like he genuinely was warped hardcore which I thought was a really interesting way for them to dive into that and to keep him somewhat sympathetic somewhat like to have the awareness that it could happen to any toy. I appreciate the fact that they didn't then repeat that in the fourth one.

Yeah. I was afraid they were when you get to what's her name Betty Betty or boop boop-de-boop or whatever her name is. Yeah. That that she isn't the same as lotso that she genuinely once you give her the opportunity to be loved, things change. Because I was afraid that Lhzo was going to be too similar to Stinky Pete. And then I was afraid that she was going to be too. And like they managed to have an interesting different villainy arc. And that's why I said it with Toy Story 2. I think this is maybe the best quadrilogy of any.

It's pretty good. And I like the idea of what they did with Lato also where he, you know, he was still, because they kind of combined what happened to Jesse to him also. But the difference, as you were saying, Corey, last week with how we thought Jesse was going to be the bad one. it then turned into, you thought that was going to have it with a lot so, but it did. But it did. And then we had the other bait and switch of now we're assuming this evil doll because of our preconceived notions of dolls being creepy, like dolls are scared.

Just like teddy bears are snugly, we don't think it's bad. Dolls are creepy. We think it is bad and it's good. It was a really clever way to like manipulate our own prior judgments. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure. It was one of those situations where watching this, we were talking about if this is all within like the wood, I mean, it's all the toys.

But if it's within the Woody arc, then this is that point where it's like, he's fighting and he's fighting it. No, y'all, we're going to be good. Like, we're going to do the college thing, whatever. It's like, no, you're going into retirement. And so it's, it's Woody pushing, because remember, all the rest of the stay of the daycare. Right. Woody goes, no, screw this.

We need to get back to Andy. Right. Andy wasn't throwing you out. Stop it. Yeah. And not letting go. And I have so much sentimentality towards toys. I was always a sentimental kid.

I still have so many nicknets. Yeah, I still have stuff. And I have my first Spider-Man doll still. Like I, to this day, keep things. So it was really interesting to see what sentimentality meant to this universe, because they're the literal toys that are coming from it. And like the whole attic metaphor for like being past your time really hits now that I'm like, it's harder to get to the gym every day.

Like things like that are hitting you as you rewatch these movies at a different stage in your own life. It's scary. It was a lot of metaphor for do you leave grandpa just at his own house to do up to his own devices? Or do you send him off to daycare, which is essentially almost like a retirement? at home. Right. You know? And there's also a prison in this case, too, as well, like, what it's like to be

trapped in a place with things that are, like, manipulating and all those things. So, so here's my question since we sort of get a, we get two new versions of buzz in three and four. Yep. In three, we get Spanish buzz. Delightful. Slash prison ward buzz. Which is great.

Yeah. And in four, we get inner voice buzz, which I thought was a very funny thing that he's listening to his own pre-rewarded message. And, like, tapping through to find them what he wants to hear? It's like, would you keep shaking the eight balls? You're like, I've got to get the. But that's what they do, though. They stay clever without it.

As we mentioned, like each time to be able to, and that's why people are so scared about the, I think Winston, you were one of the people that were like, why are they doing a fourth when the third is so? Yeah. You don't want to basically do what Jason Bourne did. You don't want to do a Rocky did with Rocky 5. You don't want it.

You don't want it to be part of it, especially when you said three is, it's, the first three are like near perfect, right? Yeah. And the fourth one, I think if you, if you say that, there's very few people that wouldn't say. that the first three Toy Story movies are great movies. Great. I think that it's very fair to say that Toy Story 4 is a very good movie.

I agree. I would say that the first three are all A's in my mind. A plus? Yeah. Yeah. I would say that they're all super high 90s as far as that rating, if not 100. I give Toy Story 4 is still very good, but it's like a B plus for me, to be honest with you.

I go A plus 1 and 3, A2, personally, and A minus for four. Like they're still all A's. It's just like, you know, they can't all be hundreds. But let's do what we did for, um, for the other movie here.

Like the cat, now the difference is what we talked about last week. Toy Story 3 comes out in like 2010. Yep. So it's like 10 years later. Yeah. So now the landscape of, of animation in Pixar are completely shaped.

Can we talk about how gorgeous this movie opens with the, like the second one had the buzz sequence in the video game. The third one has a Western sequence on the train. That is gorgeous. But it's like, but it's like coupled with like bond. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like, well, I brought my force field dog. And it's like, well, oh no, Dr. Ham's ship.

Like, the imagination. Like, I love what it's like when you were a kid. It reminds me of when I was playing as a kid. Like I don't, I don't do that.

I don't play enough. So, well, look, so Tom Hanks returns, Tim Allen returns, Joan Cusack, the late great Ned Beatie

who we just lost, I think this year. Oh, wow. He was this year that we lost him. Or at least last year. Last year. Last year.

Yeah. He was great. Oh, it was so good in Rango. Oh, it is. Hmm. That's my favorite. So you have Don Rickles. Mr. Potato had my...

Don Rickles? He's got to be gone too, right? It's been 12 years since this movie. Holy shit. Yeah. It's been 12 years, dude. No, he's gone since 2017. Yeah, you know.

Yeah. Funny story about Don Rickles. I knew Don Rickles was gone because I had a meeting with Gary Busey. Twice. As you do. I had a meeting with him on a rooftop twice. And one of the times when we were talking about guests for his potential podcast we were going to do, and he said, I want to get Don Rickles on the show, make sure

we get him. And he's going through. And he's talking about it in my head. I'm like, I'm pretty sure Don Rickles is gone. Right? And then he goes, George Carlin. Is he a possibility? I go, George is gone?

I said, and so is Don Rickles. He goes, is George Carlin still with us? And I said, no, he is not. And I said, honestly, Don Rickles gone, too. He's like, all right, we'll cross him off then. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Solid Bucy, by the way.

Solid Bucy. Oh, thank you. Coy. I believe that if I was in toy store, I would be a woodchuck. Not a woodchuck, a friend named Woodchuck. I would be a seven-foot robot who shot cucumbers out the left side of my turnicles, which are the other side of my lobes. What is an eye lobe, you figure it out and get back to the Lord, Jesus Christ. I'm,

what? Still. I'm living the fear of just knowing the Busey. Like that, that was, yeah, I don't think I'd go on a roof with him. I'd be afraid he'd toss me.

So I'd be afraid what he would say in a sense of, you should not be afraid. You should approach your life however you're going to approach it. Don't be afraid. Afraid is for people who are going to not take what they need. Toss is what you said. Toss. Terror.

Overting. Salad somebody. It's like, what? That is abuseism. What is. Does that mean Tulson going on the other side, making sure.

And he goes through, he breaks down words, Bucieisms. I need to have Bucie on this show. We need him as a fore. We do not. In theory, it's fantastic.

Back to the casting one. You added Michael Keaton and his can, which is dope. Michael Keaton's can was great in this movie. And then Blake Clark is a replacement for Ernest for a slick dog. Oh, yeah. And he does pretty well on it.

Yeah, he does. Wallace, Sean is Rex. Of course, from Princess Bride. John Ratsenberger's, Mac as Ham. Yeah, we have Jody Benson, of course, Ariel,

from Little Mermaid as Barbie. There's a lot of good people in there, too. Directed by Lee Uncridge this time? Who was it directed by this? Lee Anchorage. Oh, yes. And who we just talked about? Oh, because he was one of the directors in two.

I see. So he took over. He took over for three. What did he direct now? He directed. Oh, did he direct? He was an editor for two. Interesting.

I see what he directed on it. I think he did, did he direct Coco? I don't remember now. He directed Coco. Yeah, that's right. He directed Masters of Fury, which is, I guess, upcoming. Dante's Lunch, Toy Story 3, Finding Nemoi co-directed.

Monsters Nemei co-directed. Toy Story 2, he co-corrected. Co-corrected? Co-corrected. He failed. He failed. Domingo. So this is...

We're dropping all sorts of Easter eggs for the past and future. Past and the future. So that's it. The multiverse of reviews. I think three is. is a no notes film. And I don't feel that often. I feel like three.

It's, it's so special. It's so good at using the 10 year gap. It's one of those legacy sequels that doesn't even feel like a legacy sequel because it's like right back in the stride, but we've aged. Like we feel for Andy in a different way. When he goes, the scene where he hands his toys off and like dry and like, not only were we just crying about the like incinerator.

Now we're crying because he's playing again. And you know those toys just wanted one last time playing with Andy and you feel how much they love that. Well, that's the beauty of it. it being 10 years from, removed from this, or 11 years removed from the, from the second one, right? And like, what? 15 years removed from the, from the first one. Yeah.

So you have as kids grown up with him and these toys. Yeah. So you can relate to it in real time. I literally, what, I'm 11. Why do you hate that microphone so much? I'd move the chair because you had the sweatshirt. Fine, I'm here. I'm right here, my fuck.

I didn't say it. I heard it. I almost did. I almost did. He needs some. I like you like Walmarted yourself. You're like Walmart censored. Every time he curse.

Get out of here. Get out right here, man. It's the way he curls it. Get out of hell. Well, also, for not one of the S word. He curses. Well, he does it. He's okay that he does it.

Okay. The kids don't mind if it's a pre-recorded thing. That's true. Science. But again, we talked about this with one. Remember two, Koi mean you were around the age of like 11, 12. You know what I'm saying? By the time this is over.

For me, I'm at the, I'm at the end of college. This is this senior year of college when this drops. And he's going and he's like going. And so I not being that far removed from what that life was like leaving high school to go to college and all that. And I know that feeling. And I'm about to step into an even different adult journey. Yeah. It hits in such a different way.

I had moved out here like eight months earlier. So I had the thing of like I just. Yeah. Okay. So I had just uprooted my life. I had just left my toys behind. I had just. So it was, it was different for me.

I only went to college for one year. Okay. And then I was like, I don't think what I'm going to do, like, I support college and education, but I didn't think a piece of paper would change anything. So I came out here and I was like, I'll take acting class and use that money towards those things, which turned into like what I do now. But it was the same, I'm in a new chapter and the chapter that I left is so geographically different. And it's so separate and it's so alien and so other.

So your first year in LA is crazy. Like, your first year in LA is like, am I an adult? Like am I like, what have I done? And Toy Story 3 is definitely being like, new frontiers. in every way. It even opens with a frontier, a Western frontier. So this movie,

I think, just like the whole arc top to bottom is, it's what trilogy should be. It's its own movie. You can watch just Toy Story 3, but it also beautifully summarizes a lot of themes from the first ones. It's like a good nine-act structure.

It's like a third act in each movie and then the beautiful nine. Well, I remember because it won. It was nominated for Best Picture? Yes, it was. That was the year that they opened it up and you had a bajillion.

10, I think. Like, you finally did the full 10. And so it lost out the King's speech, right? Yeah. Was it the last one? It was it the last animated film to be nominated for Best Picture? To my knowledge. I was 11 years again.

To my knowledge, because like they had the best animated feature category had been there for a minute. But it was it was good enough the same way that you had like Parasite be nominated for best foreign film and best picture. That it, it busted through. And Spider-Verse should have been. Spider-Verse should have been up for Best Picture as well as. I agree. Because what year was Spider-Verse? 2018, I think.

And it got Best Animated. but it should have been on for Best Picture. I don't think they're going to do it. I will say this, and we'll talk about it more so on Monday. There was a lot of talk about Lightyear being nominated for Best Picture, like overall. No, it's a great movie, but it's not. Best animated for sure, but not Best Picture. It might win Best Animated for sure, but not, yeah, not Best Picture.

It's also been such a crazy year. What depends, because do we still have a Spider-Verse film coming out? No, they moved to next year. We moved them all to next year. Okay, so then Light Year right now looks like it might be the frontrunner. I mean, Minions is coming out. We haven't seen that yet. Turning Red was really good.

You dropped... Encanto was last year. Oh, no. Encanto was it last year? Oh, was it last year? Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Right. So that's, we talked...

We don't know, yeah. There's more stuff we got to figure out, but... And I don't think four is, is... I think it needs... So what I like is that if three is this beautiful arc, four is like a denouement. Like, it's like the epilogue. It's like the conclusion because we've had the ending be like, okay, now they've changed toys. I like that we get to experience what it's like under a new child, like to have that.

And I love that four kept talking about like, I've got a kid. And we are now as adults, some of us have kids. So that, that terminology you hear like, I have a kid, that makes your heartstrings sing different. And like, you know what I, you know what I was thinking? And it's sad that I'm connecting Toy Story 4 to Domil. Oh, no. But the whole idea of Lord Derby, my kids are grown now. Yeah.

It's the same thing where it's like, well, my main kid is all grown. I kind of have this new one. But like it reminds me honestly of my mom. You know, we talk about how she's like in like the fourth quarter of her life and all that kind of stuff. And so she's trying to find like the new love of her life type situation. You get that same feeling from Woody where he's like old man Woody. Like, you know, he's still in the game. But he's obviously not getting the respect that he feels like he deserves because you got that selfishness, that ego again.

So then when the love of his life is like reappeared, he's really making the debate, okay, do I go back to this job and this kid that I, they're going. Well, I choose me. And I also like from, I guess, three and four, which is bringing in like the Thespians and bringing in like the other. Oh, there's so many great supporting characters. The mailman. The mailman fits me better. Yeah. So like all that stuff, like plays in very well too.

And then. And Duke Caboom. The greatest new character. Well, Dougie and buddy for me. Yeah. You know a forkie guy? I love forky, but I think forky is like a small. Yeah.

They tried. I like that he's an existential crisis as a character. because that's what I am. But I think Kaboom is such a scene stealer. I don't know if it was you or if it was somebody else, but the fact that someone pulled a fast one over at Disney to sell children's sporks. Genius.

And they made billions off of forking, bro. It's incredible. Oh my God. I love the idea of like the fourth one asking what makes a toy. It's love. Like once you're loved by something, you activate. I love how scared he is.

Yeah, he's scared too. Because he identifies with trash. Because everybody thinks so like you're just going to be, accept it right away. He's like, yeah, I'm bailing. because he's, because he's, you know, he's, he's not all there. I, but I also like the idea that, like, where you think you belong is where you seek. So, like, I grew up poor, poor.

So I, it took me until recently, recently to feel even comfortable when I have some money buying nice clothes and I need them. Like, I need those things, but I'm like, why would I buy something nice? Because I'm so used to being poor. So I identify with Forky like crazy because, one, he doesn't trust himself. He doesn't know who he is. He's always trying to figure out what he wants, like me. And then also, like, he thinks he's trash. hard for you as a human being to go like, I'm not garbage.

I'm worth more than this. And I think that kids need to learn that as soon as possible. I think it's very important to find self-worth at a young age. And friends. And friends. Yeah. Belonging is the thing that Toy Story is about. And I love that they have a character that doesn't know what he is.

Yeah, yeah. No, for sure. I think four is great. No, four, again, I really, really enjoy it. The only thing I will say is it almost felt a little over animated. I know that sounds weird, but having watched the progression of all four in like two days time. Right.

You have one, it's the very beginning. I get it. You just developed the technology. Four, for some reason, felt so polished. And like it was almost too much for me. What I did, they also changed, as we said, in every one, they always evolve one of the characters, if not multiple characters, right? And in this one, Bo Peep was completely changed to where she was kind of on her own now,

doing her own thing, you know, strong kind of independent, but still her and Woody still have this like strong bond and they go in into that shop and how like creepy that whole yeah shop is and it was a little bit of horror it's creepy yeah the ventriloquist dolls because we're all scared of those anyway oh dude those things rub me the wrong way but but again I love that she was that villain because it was like I came out defective and I thought that there was such a beautiful um conversation about the about unrequited love about like what you think you deserve that exactly that's forky the other way so exactly so she is I came out defective, but I'm obsessed with this child.

And the child picks up, eh, and her whole world shatters. And Woody's like, fam. Like, that's the thing. Plenty of fish in the sea, like, come on. And then has that moment where that child is lost and alone. And she gives that child the courage to, like, find her parents. And her villain arc is the same as Woody is choosing herself arc. Like, she needs to be confident in herself enough to have a new child.

Woody needs to be confident in self not to have a child at all. And I love that when villain and hero arcs can parallel like that, it's a beautiful, it's Daredevil King Pit. And I think that Toy Story 4 of all the villains captures that the most. He literally gives away his voice to the villain and it doesn't work. And that has to, he has to let go and she has to let go. It's beautiful. It's such a good arc.

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and dark like it was rescuing rc i love that because the movie's dark because i was one of because we haven't seen rc since the first right yeah and i love rc too so the fact you're rescuing rc which did you notice? Was that R.C.'s body that made up the skunk? Did she take R.C. Apart to make her vehicle, bro? Because I noticed the chassis was exactly the same. Like, the wheels and how they connected.

I hope it was another R.C. Not RRC. I hope so. Because we just saved. I don't know if the timing works. I hope that RRC is safe. That skunk thing is genius, too. That's great.

It was pretty smart. But, yeah, no, I mean, that opening was, was beautiful. It was very sad. Yeah. And even to the point that, like, talk about playing your role, you see Woody watching her drive off just devastated. And the minute he, he sent his Andy coming, he goes, yeah, like instantaneously, even though he's clearly, the rain is almost like covering the tears that you wouldn't shit as a toy. Yeah. And like all of that is, is such a beautiful humanization of these, these objects.

The end of the day, Toy Story is us projecting our emotions onto these things. And I think of any of them, like, Four is not my favorite of them, but I think of any of them, it captures. depression and sadness. Well, even though they all deal with it, there's just so much darkness that isn't heavy-handed. Like, depression is real and navigating it is so important.

I think four is needed. I do. And I don't think you repeat the, this is what this whole franchise does. Even though this familiar beats, it doesn't necessarily repeat beats, right? Like, everything for me is always Star Wars. And at this point

where we, I think episode 5 of Obi-1 will probably have aired by this point. So episode four, one of my main issues, was it's just basically a complete, just retelling of episode four, New Hope. I think I'm going to wait until episode five drops and watch four and five back to back. If five is good, it's probably a good move.

Because you've mentioned, like, you know, that it's not the, and I've enjoyed it so much that I think I'd rather, you know what I mean? And hopefully five, I mean, there's only two left. But anyway, the reason I bring that up is because it doesn't, it feels like it needed to rely on, oh, familiar stuff. And we've done this before as opposed to take familiar things, but make them new. And I think Toy Story 1 through 4 does that. Like there's a lot of familiar things, tones, things, but the beats themselves are different.

It's not just a rehash story and it's not the same thing we've seen a million times over. But I think that's what good content is and not just within your own franchise, but just in general. I mean, I think about how, if you're just talking TV shows, Superstore kind of rips off of the office and Ports and Rec and those kind of rip off a 30 Rock. And all of that will kind of pull from something else. It's just what are you going to do? You also have the same ingredients. What are you going to do to make your own masterpiece? And I think that that, I agree with you.

I think they did that very well with each of these films. We're giving you the same ingredients. What are you going to do with it? Yeah. And I do think, you know, we talk about Woody as kind of our lead, but we have multiple buzzes in the last two films. And both of them work in both of them. I do love prison warden and Spanish buzz in addition to our buzz.

Dude. And the fact that Spanish buzz is jealous of Woody about Jesse. So it's also at his core that he thinks Jesse is hot. Right. So it's like whether he's Spanish or regular buzz. Yeah. So what do you guys think of the overall ending of Toy Story 4 and essentially the ending of the franchise maybe? Because Lightyear doesn't really count as SARS toy story goes.

People go, oh, light year is a complete, is a completely different movie. Come watch next week with our sports. Monday. Monday. I think that it ends in a way that they could do more, but I do kind of like the idea of like once you go off to be an adult, like Woody has gone off to live his own life. This is a story that's a long form four arc story about being an adult,

like about childhood ending. And like it's like he got married and bought a house. Like he's on that journey now. So I kind of like it because I don't know that I'd want them to reconnect because then we sacrifice that for Woody. And I don't know if I want a toy store movie that's light year without Woody. So I kind of like that it ends with

this is what adulthood is, you know? Even to the point if you, if you think about it, this is kind of a stretch, but not fully, he obviously sacrificed the voice box so the main villain girl can go be loved, right? If you think about it almost in the sense that his voice box is a lot, is what makes him a toy.

Right. He essentially got a vasectomy. So he's no longer with kids anymore. He's literally gone off with his wife in his old age. to go travel. Remember, and a lot of old people were like,

we bought a camper and now we're going to travel the world. They're now a part of the carnival and they travel the world with the carnival to just do whatever they want. It's hilarious. I actually met some people at a CVS with my wife,

older people who bought a camper and just went out. That's a life, man. They love it. It's true. They really did. They were trying to sell us on them. We got another 20 years.

We got a little bit going there. Thanks for rushing us, though. I appreciate you assuming our age there in this. Well, they didn't, we were assuming the age. They were just saying you should do it. I think they would have told 15-year-olds to do it.

But either way, this is, I think that, like I said, it was going to be a shorter episode today. I think that we, for three and four, as we get excited for what it did. I mean, the third one, I remember when that came out, people were still very curious about whether, because it was enough time that people wanted to see one, but they were curious, could it be as good as the other two?

And then there was such conversation about how it was probably better. I just remember my favorite part of three. I'm so sorry to interrupt. I love, that in the first movie, they set up the importance of the claw. And after three movies, the movie ends the pay.

That is a long game. That's a 15 year payoff. And the aliens are my favorite character. So the fact that the aliens, they go from being the annoying characters to the reluctant children, to the saviors is also its own beautiful art. Also, through the claw.

Dude, they became their own God. Yes. They self-actualized. Dude, they self-actualized. Yo, it sounds like there's a lot of self-actualization

we need to be doing. I mean, there's a lot going on in this. And the third movie, so in the third movie, supporting characters self-actualized, and the fourth movie, our lead self-actualized, it's genius writing. The claw moment is amongst my favorite, like, cinematic trilogy moments, though.

It was good. There's a lot of great moments. I think that you can take so many of them, but I think what we should do, similar to what we did with the Jurassic series, we should now rank the toy straight movie. So, should we do the same thing with the pictures? Yeah. Let's do it. So we're not doing it with Lighty. We're excluding, we're not going to I think it really is such a spin-off.

It's just such a different movie. It's its own beast. If you want to maybe on Monday, we can. Yeah, we can say where it fits into it. But, I mean, as four different, with these characters and this, it's, yeah, because that light year isn't even the light year that we know. Right, right. So it's different enough.

It's different. It's just a spin-off. But go ahead, Winston, it would buy us some time. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. So, all right. So we have, what, with three, I think the big thing we talked about. What was the moment other than, like, the fire? pit that like I guess really got to you one way or the other coin. I got to say that in three

I really enjoyed that the toys um didn't do the same level of like committing to the bit like I felt like they were maturing like all of them like they're trapped in this situation but like there's less of that like oh no last second like there's there's more of a sense of like self so I really like that in the prison they're all kind of like forming who they want to be on and off air, so to speak. And then, like, obviously, how that lands. And the bond, like, the friendship is insane. Well, one of, I mean, one of the other things that I love about the films is that they all kind of do also fall into their own genre. So, like, the second one, we were talking about, like, kind of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

thing, like, hangover vibes, all that. But then, with this one, it was, like, a prison break movie. Right. And so then, like, buying into that and whatnot. I, I thought, I just love that they were able to pull that off. And I would say that the other part for me, the emotional part would be the fire pit. And obviously, like you mentioned, Andy playing with Bonnie. But I think the other thing that really caught me that I was just dying, laughing because I was obsessed with the new guy, um, with DJ Qualls. Yeah. Is Ken doing his, his, like, showing all his outfits for Barbie to like to freak out. Like just to, dude, that's tough. Yeah. Dude, it's, I think three, like, it's one of the, like, it's funny as hell. Like, there's a lot of laugh out. Like, there's a lot of laugh out.

loud and three. Yeah, there is. And light years acrobatics in the prison escape is a moment too because you get that call back to the first one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.

So we're gonna do, so there's, this is four. So four is right up here. We got the, we got four. We got number two. I think it's an accident,

but I really enjoy that de Mignon is cameoing because you got the French toy story four posters. It actually, it actually wasn't an accident. When I pulled it at first, I saw that it was

and then I said, I'm just gonna leave it. Domino. Yeah, and that's number three. And then we obviously have one. Now, this is not as easy. This is harder than Jurassic.

Dresi was harder. Honestly, any answers I'm not upset about it. No, there's not. I think that it's like, and I think that everybody, and this is what I asked the audience to do inside of this one,

is I want to get your rankings for your comments. Like, it's always, it's always like the most comments we ever get is when we finish these series that people always give their rankings. So make sure you give your rankings. in the comment section and obviously look at this guys, boom, it's back.

Oh, he did it. Found his way. And click like and do all that. But all right. Well, you just made my order. So. Is that your order? Yeah, one, three, two, and four is my order.

I think the first one is, I don't know what's nostalgia and what's, you know, it being the first of its kind, but the first one for me, I can't, I think about it often. It shaped me.

I was seven. It's so important. Three really showed me that you can have a sequel that is as good the first. I'd consider both of those A pluses. So it's like, that's really just a matter of they're both a hundred. It's just one was it was the exact rate age.

And then two is amazing, but it's more like a 95. And then I would say Toy Story 4 is like a 91. I'm going to guess Winstons. So this is Koi. So this is, so I was going to guess Winston's, I would go am I right? No. Actually, it is going to be

and this is rough because I just rewatched for this morning. I think it's got to be three, two. All right, so three for Winston, two. This is going to be controversial, but four, one. Whoa. And I love me someone.

I've seen it a million times, but the... It's funny coming from somebody who didn't want a fourth one. I agree. And the reason why is, because when I saw it for the first time in theaters, I was like, it was fine. They did a good job. It was fine. The reason I'm going this route is only because,

Because four means more to me now at the age that I'm at and watching it, that it affected me a little bit differently than when I was watching it. I also, let me say that's a testament to sequels. Holy shit. You gave the first it's last. Holy yes, that doesn't happen much. And it's not, and it's not even that the thing is, let me reiterate, just because it's my last does not mean that it is the worst of it.

Like it is, it is. It's hard. Yeah, there is no worst one at all. But that's incredible. Like we can have sequels be. Like Fallen Kingdom is the worst one. That's just comfortably. This is, this is a very narrow.

margin that I've that I reckon that. Batman and Robin. We all agreed. Like we've never had actually this the first like mix up we've seen that level of in all of our rewatches. I'm not done yet. Uh, so for me, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna stick with three. Okay. I'm gonna move. Wow, all of our orders are so different. Yeah. And it's like, but again, it's the same thing. I, I, I happen to really like for. Yeah. I just think that everything that I've seen so far. And very similar to what Winston just said, one is just a very special movie. Like to all of us it is, but to one was just, just, it gives me the feels. Yeah.

And three is just an overall. And that's why it's number one for me. Yeah, yeah. Because three is just a three is just, three is everything that one probably could be with a bigger budget. And one just started it all off. And three just used everything that one was able to get them. And look,

two is just as good. Anybody, anybody that puts these three, one, two or three in this, like in different order, it's going to be like when we rank the Rockies. That's going to be very,

Yeah, it's going to be really hard, especially the director's cut. I got, I got issues with the new rock. I haven't seen it. No, no, of course. No one's seen the new creed. Oh, oh, I'm in the director's cut. No, no, no, no, no, no. I got issues with that.

So now take this for what it is. I know this is a Toy Story rewatch, but I do want to bring this up for, because we're doing a rewatch series. There was, and I talked about on the show a couple weeks ago, Frank Stallone. Yeah. Posted a thing on Michael B. Jordan. That Michael B. Jordan was a poser, this, that show. sham that they're doing this next movie and that he essentially kicked sly out of the new movie wow now you can say what you want because franks the lone said it however

sebester stone liked the post oh wow so he's endorsing that statement hasn't it's amazing that it hasn't been covered more somebody only reason it was on my radar is because i was doing a q and a and a fan let me know about it and then i kind of dug a little deeper and did the research on it and look but like so that's an interesting conversation we're going to have that yeah so let at more as the story develops and more as it develops so anyway we'll we'll talk about that more but as far as toy story goes we wrapped up now we're going to it'll it'll end with light year basically we're doing our spoiler review on monday if you want to see i have a review up already uh for light year on the channel you check that out Winston and i did a out of the theater reaction when we saw it uh two weeks ago

so make sure you check that out also It's been two weeks already. Yeah, and then all that stuff. So, and in Lightyear, it's going to be a full-on spoiler discussion with the three of us. So thank you for checking us out on the rewatch. Rewatch next week, I believe Thor begins, yes? Yes. Nice week.

We're going to watch all three Thor movies leading into Ragnar Rock. We're all going to be going to see that movie very soon. I am taking a wild guess. Are we, you might be able to get away with not doing the first two of vendors. Are we going to do either Infinity War end game since he has such a deep storyline in that with the whole? No. Okay. I'm shaking.

I love those movies, but I'm not doing. Fat Thor, that's a whole thing. I mean, we could talk about it maybe inside of Ragnarok, you know, at the end of Ragnarok. The same way we did feel the other ones. I don't want to do a full rewatch on it. We can just watch those scenes the same way we did like Spider-Man. So that's it. All right.

That's Toy Story. And that was a fun ride. Yeah. So far it's been, what we should do at the end of the year is all the rewatches we did, rank the rewatches we did. what we had the most fun with like ranked the arc like all the toy stories all the spider man's all the no no meaning that if you had all so we we watched all the toy stories we watched all the drastic parks you know yeah what's the overall best franchise what just what your favorite

what we watch is were like my favorite watching my favorite watch my first favorite rewatch was and it doesn't have to be best movies sure i had a lot of fun rewatching all the batman movies even though batman robin is in there right right you've done a lot already yeah i think about it because it was just so many movies for spider man to start all you know you know you're just so many movies for spider man to start Right. Well, that wasn't even the one that started it. The one that started it off, you guys weren't even in it. It was the Star Wars ones.

So for us, Spider-Man. Yeah, it was. I'm going to take, I'm going to take this phone. Dude, you got the same spam risk call that I did? Hold on. Should I, should I, I want to see it. I'm going to try to do a prank, hopefully. Never works out of it.

Oh. Hi, this is Jennifer. Ah, get out of here. Jennifer, you're a robot. Damn it, Jennifer, we had hope for you. You're going to actually be somebody. All right, anyway. We were rooting for you.

We were all rooting for you. We were rooting for you. All right, everybody. I want to thank you guys so much for joining us. Oh, hi, T. Rex. That was Rex. It was Rex. I appreciate you.

Really appreciate you. And we're going to be able to see you really soon on this light year thing. Make sure that once again, the podcast, you do that. You wish I knew shirts, all of it. Make sure you subscribe to the channel. Hit that notification button, do everything that you can. For myself and Winston and Koi on this, rewatch, please. Make sure you check it out.

The next one that we do, We're really excited to do this series, and we're glad that you've been joining us. So leave your comments. Tell us what your movies are. It's from the Toy Stories. Rank them. All right.

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