The Kristian Harloff Show - RIP James Earl Jones. We pay tribute to the legend.

Episode Date: September 10, 2024

James Earl Jones was an absolute legend, an icon of film. He meant so much to so many. From Darth Vader to Mufasa, Field Of Dreams and so so much more, James Earl Jones was a part of many of our lives. We remember him and talk about gis most iconic roles to us. The third SpiderVerse Film will be pushed until 2027? Speaking of Spiderman, has Spiderman 4 found its director finally? This and more on this live episode with Kristian Roxt and Mike Kalinowski. #jamesearljones #darthvader #legend #actor #rip #marvel #spiderman  PRIZEPICKS: Download the PrizePicks app today and use code BIGTHING and get $50 instantly when you play $5! That's code BIGTHING on PrizePicks to get $50 instantly when you play $5! You don't even need to win to receive the $50 bonus, it's guaranteed! "PrizePicks. Run Your Game!" LIQUIDIV: GET 20 PERCENT OFF http://www.LiquidIV.com CODE: BIGTHING ROCKETMONEY: Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to http://www.RocketMoney.com/THING THE PERFECT JEAN: 15 Percent off with the code BIG THING at http://www.theperfectjean.nyc/BIGTHING

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we're going to talk about his body of work, some of the movies that kind of defined our childhoods and way more. We will get into some other topics on the show here today. It is the first live show with my Roxie Streyer and Mike Kalanowski. The gang is back together. So here we go. Let's do it. It's a Christian Harlov's show. Thanks for joining us.

Thank you for joining us back here on the Christian Harloff show. And man, I announced that we were going live every day, Monday through Friday, and that there were possibilities because of schedule that were going to get some different lineups. And boy, one of those lineups I know everybody's excited about, myself included, is the reuniting of DC movie news Roxanne Streyer Hello Roxy And

Mike Kalanowski Look at this Look at you Look at you two wonderful kids Look at your graphics Look how professional you are And look at you wonderful kids Isn't that good

Look at you guys I came on and I was so excited That Mike was here and I said Hi Mike And then he didn't have his headphones on And the person said You can't hear you He can't hear you

I deal with this guy Deal with him every Wednesday Now you get to deal with him Because he's going to be here a lot on Tuesday because of his schedule. So we're going to have a lot of Roxy and Mike. And Roxy, I know how competitive you are. So we did this thing yesterday that, you know,

because people will send in their super chats. We'll get to questions at the end of the main topics after we cover them. And yesterday, Rocha was on the show, and he's been on every Monday. Roca got 45 questions yesterday. So the question is, can... Whoa.

So the question is, can you beat 45 questions? Wait, that's so crazy because he's on every Monday. He's on every Monday. So he got 45 questions. So the question is, can Roxy break the record? 45 is going to be tough to do. You would think that they had run out of things to ask them. People like to hear.

People like to hear him talk. Yeah, me too. I do. We have a lot to talk about. We really do have, there's so much to discuss. And I was going back and forth, really, of what to cover yesterday. And then the news dropped of the great James Earl Jones, who passed away. As we were kind of ending the show yesterday, it was sent to me.

me, PLD, producer actually sent me the news. And normally I put us on the thumbnails and I do things. But I was like, nah, I'm going to just put him on the thumbnail and just, I feel like we'll just have a really nice conversation about him and discuss kind of, because I know that for the three of us, he just meant a lot with so many different roles. So I'm going to read this story here by Dark Horizons. We'll talk about the great James Earl Jones, and then we'll kind of go over some of his body work and other things.

So James Earl Jones, who has passed away at 93 years old, legendary deep-voiced actor James Earl Jones, who has appeared in countless films, has died. He was 93. He was 93 years old. Jones reportedly passed away at his home in Duchess County, New York, on Monday. Jones was one of the most recognizable actors around the world and earned three Tony Awards, two Emmy Awards and a Grammy Award,

along with a Lifetime Achievement Oscar, SAG Award, and Kennedy Center Honor. He is one of the few entertainers to have won the Egot, which is the Emmy Grammy Oscar. Tony, he began his prolific acting career in 1964 with Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove. He went on to around 200 TV and film roles on screen across movies like Coming to America, Conan the Barbarian, The Hunt for Red October, Field of Dreams, Patriot games, sneakers, The Sandlot, and more. His voice became the voice of the most famous Star Wars villain of all, Darth Vader, alongside with that of Mufasa in Disney's animation.

the Lion King. On TV, he was in The Great White Hope and made numerous The Simpsons appearances on stage. He appeared in nearly two dozen Broadway shows. The source was a deadline, of course, by Dark Horizons. So, yeah, guys, this is like, you know, super, super sad. And then I was telling my wife, my wife, like, what a full life? He had, like, how old was he? He was, like, 93 is a long life. But it doesn't take away from the sadness of it, obviously.

But, like, I know, Rox, I start with you. You hear this news. And first thoughts that go through your memory. mind when you hear about the passing of the great James Joel Jones. So I found out the same way that I'm sure a lot of people did through social media. And it was weird, kind of like when Betty White passed. The first thing I did was I just saw a picture of him. And I was like, oh, hi, James Earl Jones.

And then I keep going. And I see another picture of him. And I was like, oh, that's so funny. And then finally, I was like, why have I seen three pictures of him in the last hour? you look into it, it's like, oh, man. I just thought that that person was never going to die. I know. I just thought they were going to be here forever.

I think it's so cool about Lion King, too, because Lion King's my favorite Disney movie of all time. But you guys know Darth Vader's my favorite Star Wars character, which I'm sure is so many people like me. It's not like I'm unique in my absolute obsession and love for him, but just sad. And like you said, Christian, 93 is a full life. life, but as somebody who takes care of a 97 and a 99-year-old, it's like you speak to these people

and this is who we want on the planet still. People in their 90s have such beautiful experience and perspective and are just the kindest best souls that there are. So it's almost sadder to me when we lose them because I think we need way more of that and way less of some other things. I agree. Well said. Mike, you know, you hear the news, obviously you've been following Jamesville Jones career forever as an actor yourself i'm sure was studied his work um what what was going through your mind when you when you heard the news um it's interesting because i feel we're getting to the age where those people that we grew up with are now passing yeah um you know like now they're starting to hit where like 10 years ago the people that were passing were you know film a tv

actors from the 60s and 70s and but now it's like yeah because there's a couple of that hopefully are gotten 20 more years in them, but that are around the age where, you know, you know, so, but like I love, for me, James Earl Jones, of course, Darth Vader, but was always James Greer in the, in the Clancy movies. Like, that's his role to me that I, aside from Vader, as an actor, really kind of hit with me. Well, that's what I was going to ask next.

It was like, what stands out? Obviously, I think everyone, first off goes voice to Darth Vader, right? And then he's so much more than that, obviously, throughout, his wonderful career. For me, it is actually between Field of Dreams, the Sandlot, those are, those movies like just stood out to me. He's so good. He's so good in Field the Dreams. I mean, he's just so good in that role. It kind of like is like the essence of what he was the way you kind of perceive him in general. Like you feel like maybe he would be intimidating if you first saw him because of that just booming voice and that he could maybe be, maybe you think he's standoffish,

but then you really get to know who he is, and he's got this big, warm, open heart, and just is full of life and once it, like, everything. When he saw him in interviews, it was the same thing, and I think that was just, it really came out and filled the dreams. But, Rox, you know, these roles, and it's so hard to kind of choose all the great roles that he's had, but is there anything that you go,

oh, yeah, that's the one I always associate him with? Yeah, of course, for me, it's Vader. As you mentioned, though, that he had this, an Egot. I was like, what did he win? an Emmy for it that I didn't see. And this is one of the cool things about when somebody's name is in the news for better or for worse, is that I do think people go back and watch

some of their less recognized work. And he has been nominated for multiple different Emmys, but all of his TV work I haven't seen. So that's stuff that I'll go dive into, which is really cool, his movies I've seen, but his television, like, do you guys know Everwood? He played Will Cleave. was nominated for guest actor had no idea no i didn't that's really cool uh he won for um playing

gabriel bird and gabriel's fire okay in 1991 that's the year i was born i didn't even know gabriel f uh gabriel's fire was a show so that's what he won his emmy for which is i kind of can't wait to go back and watch that yeah um and then he's yeah he's it's it's just you know when he shows up it There's a certain type of actor, and he certainly was one of these actors, is that it just elevated anything he was on when he showed up. It's like the second he showed up, you went, oh, this is a high quality thing, because he showed up. And that's what he did.

And I remember, I guess, you know, as I say that, there are other movies that as a kid, he was terrifying in Conan the Barbarian, and that hairdo was incredible. He was terrifying in that movie. And he's also, he's played, Mufasa wasn't the first king he played. You know that's, you know exactly what I'm talking about. And that, of course, is the great performance that he put together in coming to America.

He was. Is it a Zumanda? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The king of Zimunda. The king of Munda, yeah. Jaffe, right? I think King Jaffi. And so he was just so good in general in that.

that and he's just so many different roles that he had I mean you look at his it's the body work as it goes the Lion King do you guys know oh yes he did did he do I guess he didn't do well he wouldn't have done the Mufasa voice because Mufasa is a young kid in lion King but um no I think he did I think that he did it you're talking about in 2019 no I know he did that I just didn't know if he in in the new movie if he if he did anything for that but I think he was already kind of ailing in health at at that point because remember he didn't do even though he's credited in In Obi-Wan, that's not, that they basically AIed his, his voice.

He gave them permission to do it. You're saying you know that he did do it in 2019, but you just don't know to what extent was actually him? No, I don't know in the new movie, the Mufasa movie that's coming out. Oh, oh, I get. That movie that's coming on in December. I don't know if he did any of that. But then I said, I think he's doing a younger version at that point.

So I don't think that it's, yeah. You know my favorite line in any movie of all time ever. if like if you just said what is your favorite line ever this is the thing that I want plastered on the wall in front of me at all times is remember who you are oh yeah it's like to me just the most powerful quote of all time remember remember who you are you are my son I hear it in my head in my darkest moments and I hear it in my head when I feel like and and this is for all of us Christian I know you're back east now but like when you move out here and you're struggling and and LA is so different from where we came and it's easy to get lost in things.

It's just, it plays in my head. I'm going to say weekly. I'm saying for years now, it's my favorite, favorite quote ever. And so his voice plays in my head. Yeah. He's like part of me. It's strange. No, it's not strange.

I think it just shows you the impact that he had overall with what he was able to do. And I mean, he's done so many, that voice, even when the news network started, this is CNN. He was the one who started that. He did that. He did that. That's crazy. Yeah, he did that. He did, obviously, all the stuff that he did with Vader and the fact that the way that he got Vader in the 77, he wasn't the James Earl Jones. He was a young kind of actor that, and George Lucas liked his voice, took his voice, and who knew, right? And there was just so much that he did. And it is. It's one of those big ones. You know, you hear it, you go, oh, no, I think Roxy said it best. You just think they're going to live forever.

and is 93 years old 93 I mean that's that's I think that's way long this is one of those things they're going to play back when I finally kick the bucket they're going to play this this clip but I I there's no way I'm seeing 93 and the fact that I just don't think I'll see 93 but he but he he he saw 93 you've been doing AG1 Christian you're going to see 93 you're fine who knows but I don't know it's a longer story he's this is this is a guy who did this is a guy who just lived life to the fullest he really just did And it's so nice that, you know, people are, it's, you know, it is also refreshing in the world that we're living in right now. And the amount of kind of vitriol that is in the world in general, you didn't see a lot of hate when, you know, I'll just, to put into juxtaposition here, there was somebody else that went up going to the hospital yesterday.

And everybody, rightfully so, was saying, eat it, buddy, get out of here. as opposed to this guy who was just like, oh, man, it's a real, a real, you know, kind of hero loss. So James Earl Jones, you know, I struggle to say, yet still say, gone too soon because of, you just don't want him to go. You just don't want him to go. So you guys know anything about his family life? Not really. Not really. I was looking into this a little bit.

Private man. Yeah, totally. I love that. that I'd never heard one. I was like, was this man married, children? And yes and yes. I guess he is, he had a second wife and she passed in 2016, but they had a son together who was born in 1983, Flynn Earl.

Please gift us with your voice one day, Flynn. For real. Well, isn't that funny because someone said, you know, that he'd voiced his last role was Obi-Wan. I mean, technically, technically. right but this is what the technology moving forward is going to do right is that he gave permission for them to use his voice because you listen to him in rogue one that's that's him that's him 100% at that age that's him obi won was his voice but it was used modulated yes but he used at a

younger younger time you know how they can use to do the the deep fake voices and all that stuff but he gave permission for it and he signed over his there was a big story that he kind of signed over his likeness from years to come. So you can still hear James Earl Jones forever. Now he signed on for his voice. You will hear his voice again. He signed his rights for his voice. So you will hear it again.

So that is one of those things where I wonder because, like Mike, I know that you kind of, it's like an iffy situation for you, a topic rather for that. But because of that, because he signed it over, said that that's something he would be okay with. And the idea that you can use his voice in any, time, you know, if they want to use, let's say, Vader or they wanted to use his voice for any future Lion King movies that they do them, is that something you'd be okay with?

I was listening to you when you were talking about that. And, you know, I know he's so iconic and the character of Vader continues on. And I kind of, I personally don't like it. I don't like that once an actor is past that they're going to, and again, it's up to the person. It's up to their family and their legacy. Maybe they have a family they want to provide for. And this will be financially secure for the rest of their lives if they want to keep using that. But it's like kind of like it says something to the to the, to the finiteness of death that this person's gone. And that's what we have in the past to always remember him and cherish.

But now it's like, he's always going to be there and it's always going to be. I don't know, it's like kind of like an actor. It's like when they pass, it's like it's done. And their treasure of work that is, before in the past that's what we have to remember them you know yeah i think that's a fair yeah it's not for me the ai and all this yeah i get it stuff that's not for me i get it and i think that's also our generation's going to feel that way and i think it's going to you know it'll change then but i think that the other important thing is if his family's able to you know is his

grandkids great grandkids are able to profit over it then and that's what he wanted and he was like you just keep using my stuff but just keep paying them then i'm good i would do that If it was, if that was me, and I was like, yeah, listen. I get it. I get it. I'm like, okay, use my likeness, use my voice, but make sure my, my kids are getting paid for it. Let me ask you guys this then. So because it seems a double-edged sword, because I personally liked it, but people were calling it grave robbing when they had Chris Reeve show up in the flash. And he didn't talk. It was just his image. And from what I remember reading, the family signed off on it. Yeah. People like, how dare they, this is sacrilege, the grave robbing. And I'm just like, it was kind of a, look very cool.

Yeah. Homage to him. Yeah, so people are always going to complain about something. Where's the, you're not going to please everybody with this stuff. I know. Roxy, you and I have kind of landed on similar opinions on this stuff, too. Where do you land on this? I think I'm on the extreme other end of Mike.

Yeah. But I do understand where he's coming from. It's also hysterical to me that what Mike just described is literally the circle of life. He's like, well, you live and then you die. And that's the point. And then you're gone. That's true. But I was famously known,

remembered on Collider Live for saying, take my image, use me in every single thing possible if I get hit by a car tomorrow, because I just so badly want to be remembered. And I think it's different for him because he will be remembered no matter what. But I think that there's something so unbelievable, technology is supposed to be used to help people.

And I think that it does, anything that can make passing or death or whatever it is a little easier on people. And as fans of his, we do get to still hear him and see him. And I think that's really cool. I think it all completely hinges on the family's permission, obviously. I don't remember the grave robbing conversations. I think that's whack. I don't understand if his family said yes and if they're getting paid for it

I don't really understand how if they weren't on board if they weren't on board with it and people were doing it without their likeness and those then then I would say it is a better argument for that yeah but I think it's how cool that you could have such a lasting legacy that you could pay for generations of life right right that would be the best thing

that I could ever do yeah is pay for my great great grandkids. Especially when you have a voice like that and you're able to do it. I mean, because there's people that are also going to be able to do impressions of his voice and things too, but if you can actually get his voice and get his family paid for it, I think it

works. But nonetheless, the great James Earl Jones has left us and man, what a net, what a legacy. And so I ask you guys in the comments section, live, all that stuff. Make sure that you put your comments in and tell us,

what are your favorite moments of James Earl Jones. What's your favorite, I guess, performance? What's what memories stand out? What like Roxy will live on in your head, things that he said, performances, all of that. We want to hear it, share it, do everything you can. Okay, as we are now going to transition over, which is never an easy thing to do when it's a situation like this, we're going to go into our movie news stuff. We also, I'm going to say people are going to be asking questions and we'll be able to get to you all your questions at the end of the topics as we always do how many so far christian how many so are nine you got nine of 45 yeah you got a while you got a while ago rocks you got a way i don't think

roka's gonna roca's gonna be the champ um for where are they you'll see them you'll see him but what were let me ask you this yeah harloff what were the questions were they good yeah they were good they were really good was like what's your favorite flavor of ice cream no they know they know that's the The Monday, you got to remember, Roka also has an advantage. We've been doing live with Roker for the last six months. Yeah, but you also didn't tweet us out. The Roker's got no shortage of opinions. Nobody knows Mike and I are together right now.

Like, how am I supposed to social it was? You got to do this. We've got to hype up Roxy and I together. And on the following show, that's when you get the Nup. Well, clips, we're going to do some, we've been doing more clipouts too. So we'll be doing that. Okay, listen, here is something else that is a big story that is, that dropped and had it been for any other day, it would have led with this story for sure, because the

Spider-Verse movies are some of the best animated movies, best movies I've seen in a long time, Oscar-nominated, Oscar-winning, people love these movies, highly anticipated, so this news, not the best. The third Spider-Verse movie, will it be pushed to 2027? The planned third film in the Spider-Verse franchise has reportedly been significantly delayed. The In-Snyder, Jeff Snyder, has posted a bombshell report, claiming that Sony Pictures has reportedly scrapped most of the work done on the film so far to creative reasons. The report indicates the film is now unlikely to be released before 2027, and the production team is apparently relieved by the scrapping,

as it will now give them more time to work on the film. The delay also gets the film out of the way of a fourth live-action Spider-Man, which seems to be targeting a 2026 release after word today of Destin Daniel Cretton's hiring as director and an early 2025 start of filming. It also means the third Spider-Verse will arrive a full year after the last year's sequel, which ended on a cliffhanger. Last month, actor Karen Sani, who plays Paveterer, Spider-Man, India says, said voice recording.

was slated to begin on beyond and in a few months and the film was deep in production. Also, last month came word that Sony Pictures Television was not renewing their overall deal with Spider-Verse filmmakers Phil Lord and Chris Miller and there had been alleged clashes over budgets regarding the upcoming Spider-Noir series. The franchise, which was soaring on the success of across the Spider-Verse early last summer, found itself under scrutiny since a report at Vulture hit last June. That report went into Lord Miller's controversial managerial style with sources claiming unsustainable working conditions and a relentless kind of revisionism. It does get results though. Spider-Man

across the Spider-verse made $691 million from a $150 million budget and had a stunning reviews at 95% on Rotten Tomatoes. Now an update from September 10th, the franchise's composer, Daniel Pemberton, has dismissed the report saying on X, would you ever believe there could be sometimes be stuff on the internet that might not be particularly accurate? So, what the hell do you make of all of that. Now, after that whole big report, the composer goes, I don't believe everything you hear. So Roxy will start with you. You hear this report. You hear this sniffing around. And Jeff's usually pretty accurate on what he's heard so far. Do you think that this gets pushed to 2027 that far back from the last movie?

Yeah, subscribe to his newsletter because I love reading. He like dropped so much great stuff there, but then we did here. So like you said, the composer, he said, would you ever believe there could be sometimes stuff on the internet that might not always be particularly accurate? But that's not really a denial of what he said. They said that might not always be particularly accurate. I think that, number one, I actually don't care when this movie comes out. If it comes out in 2027, great.

I just want to see the best version of the movie. And I want the people to be treated as well as they possibly can. and if people are getting paid for their time and the movie is excellent, if it's 2027, that's totally fine by me. But it is interesting the way that we are talking about this franchise as opposed to after the first movie came out when we were like, this movie is stellar. It is so unbelievable. This looks just perfect. No animated movies ever look better. And now it's like, who what's going on on set here?

How are we treating the people? There's been a lot of issues seemingly going on. What are they using this time for? Do we trust this? But we love the movies, so the conversation is just totally turned. Yeah, you know, and Chris Miller actually just responded and said, nothing's been scrapped. Said nothing's been scrapped. Reels are coming along just nicely.

So, I mean, Mike, I feel that if that's the case, if it was going to get delayed and they were scrapping stuff, Miller coming out and saying, no, that's not true, could have major egg on his face if it turns out, because especially with differences, they haven't been shy of staying silent, I should say, when it came to the solo stuff. They pretty much went along with everything that people were saying. I bet you once they finally are able to speak

about what went down there, that's going to be a complete and utter S show, if you will. But, you know, Miller responds. What do you think? I don't know. I'm torn on this because I know the first one was by itself, but didn't they? and correct if I'm wrong, after that first one, and they were like going forward, like, we had a plan trilogy.

I thought two and three were going to shoot back to back and like they knew what they were doing. Like it was, I think they still know what they're doing. The second one came out. What's up? I said, I think I still know, they still know what they're doing. It's just as they mentioned in that report. Do they? Yes, because I think what happened was that the fit hit the Shan, if you will, when they, when, when, you never heard that before?

Like you were live? Is that why you keep doing that? Yeah, but have you never heard fit hit the Shan? heard that before? No, I've never heard that. And I owe you an apology, but we'll do this, we'll do this after. I know. That was a great moment in my life. Yes, but we'll do that afterwards. But Mike, the main thing that they mentioned this report was all the stuff that went down with the graphics people and the, you know, the editors. Working conditions on the end of the second. I think that they were going

back to back and I think then they were like, hold back here. People's heads are going to fall off. They're exhausted. Cut it out. Right. Okay. But still, okay, so let's look at that. So all that comes out, and I think it came out, because they were rushing towards the end of the film, like, to finish the second one. And then the second one comes out, massive hit, and they're like, we're going to take some time. We're going to slow it on a little bit and redo things. But that doesn't change the fact that the story still, even if these guys are busting their ass and trying to get the most incredible work and because the animation is just insane, the story is still the story. The animators that are animating it, that's not changing the story. they're animating what's being given.

So I thought this story is there. Like I thought they know what they're doing. They had the actor set to record dialogue. So clearly they had the script ready to go. So as you say, something stonks. Well, but I don't know if it does, though, because it depends on. If you're just going, hey, our animators are dying. We've got to slow down.

One theory, I think that the studio goes, we'll hire another studio and add another studio on. On animated films, lots of different studios work on, you know, someone will handle the action and I can see them going well just hire more people and keep working them but and maybe lord mill like not slow down it seems like they're going it changing story and changing yeah it's well it depends scrap sequences it depends on this report right the report that it says if if the report is that this has not um gone as planned and that there are going to be a lot of changes and they are not going to be out until 2027 then mike you got something to that to where they said well they don't know what the hell the story is or they

what happened they bounce back and forth but if you go off of what miller just wrote and the fact that no everything's going according to plan it just takes animation takes a little longer especially when you're trying to ease up on your crew was when you get that kind of you don't you don't want an ellen situation you know what i mean so it's like yeah i mean it just seems that i know like an animation the little bit that i do know like a lot of your assets are already built so you're you're it's kind like a video game where your assets you are there and i know and it seems like every movie they do these giant quantum leaps forward with what we're seeing and explaining new things and maybe they're wanting to try new things i think like roxy said you know give the time but also i'm of the

minority that i think the first one is better i think ending on a cliffhanger like they did was a real mistake in the fact that it wasn't coming out within a year yeah if you're going to end on a cliffhanger like that you got to pull it back to the future i don't disagree with you and do it six months later and just get it all out there. Because I think this film, these films has the potential to be the best trilogy of all time if they stick the landing. I think they will.

Even out of live action. I'm saying better than live action. I think trilogy, when we talk about the best trilogies of all time, this has the potential to be the best trilogy of all time if they stick it. What did you think of the first Dune ending? Oh, he didn't like either one of those movies.

I'm going to tell you about Dune. No, don't ask him. And I said this, no, I say this with the utmost respect. I think they are. masterful films incredibly acted every attention to detail sound design costume lighting score everything is 100 credible i felt no attachment to any single character and i was just like this is fine so you just don't you don't like cliffhangers no i love a cliffhanger if it's going to get resolved within a decent amount of time and i'm invested what about like house of the dragon

or he doesn't watch that he doesn't watch good things okay Yeah, I think I've just been so trained to cliffhangers be what they are. And sometimes I have to wait multiple years on shows. Four years? Well, that's a lot. I mean, you changed. Aquaman came out to came out four years. But that wasn't a cliffhanger.

That was not like, hey, Miles is stuck. Come back in five years and see where he is. It's like. It's tough on clip hangers. You guys, you have to think about also this. Think of it in a five, let's say four or five years in a span. You just mentally as a person change. You, you, some things you're into anymore, some things you're not into anymore.

You go through, like, you change as a person, especially, you know, younger people. And they're like, at the age, they're so invested in. And they're like, when they come back, it's like, I don't watch Spider-Man anymore. You're, you know, it's, and again, this, they've, they've won the goodwill of people because these two films are so good. And I'm sure when the hype comes out, when the film starts ramping up in, and marketing. that people are going to be back into it. But it's like imagine Infinity War and then you had to wait five years for Endgame.

Yeah, no. Like here we go. Perfect example. Infinity War and Endgame. That thing was. Timed out perfectly. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. I hear you.

Yeah. I think that I think you're right. I think you're right that when it comes to cliffhanger, because people forget fast, especially because there's just so much stuff out there now too, right? Yeah, it is. There is just so much that you got to, people do forget.

And I think there's another movie recently. I can't remember what it was, but it's like, it's not coming out. I mean, look, even movies without a cliffhanger. Look at, look at, I mean, we'll bring up Star Wars again. Star Wars is 2019 since that last movie. You're paying $4.2 billion for a franchise, and it's like, where's that?

Maybe were you thinking Batman 2? Batman 2 is one that also getting pushed. Yeah, but there are other, yeah. And the fact that you've got a new DC universe with a new Batman soon. And they're pushing it again. You got this little kind of penguin that's going to kind of satiate you for a little bit. I think, but I think that's more important than you think. Because that's, I think that's going to be a big, a big, really big show.

from whatever it's saying. No, I understand. I'm, yeah. Okay, say there are only two options, though. I'm not saying there are, but one, you lose momentum and you put out a great movie, or two, you rush a movie, but you have that momentum. I would rather lose momentum, put out a great movie, then rush the movie, and then have it not be as good. Yeah, I guess.

I mean, I was always, what weirded me out with these movies, the spiders was, the fact that it wasn't the same directors from the first and the second one they brought completely new people and so that was a jarring to me yeah well i didn't i did like the first one better but you still like the second one i loved it that it was great well how about that what do you guys think is a lot of things that happened during this actual news miller writes out and says no no no still coming out do you think that it's going to come out in 2027 it's going to come out in in 2026? Does it tie in because they've kind of tried to tie into all of the Spider-Man stuff? Will it tie into this Spider-Man 4? Is that one of the reasons that maybe they're having

conversations with the MCU to say let's push back something so we can time this out a little bit? Put your comments in there. Tell us exactly what you think. How many questions, Christian? At the moment, Roxy. At the moment, we have 13 questions. 13 is trash. Be nice. 15 is trash. No, two is, two is wonderful. Put me up, Christian. Put me up so they can see I'm smiling when I say.

13 is trash. Two is wonderful. You gotta get to 45. 13 is an unlucky number. What are we trying to do Friday the 13th? You can put, yeah, I said, I told you. I said competitive. 46 is gorgeous.

46 is an amazing number. You know what's a sexy number, 46. Perfect. Well, look, I'm happy with one. I'm happy with two. Thank you guys for as many questions that you're putting in there. It's very helpful. It helps out the show.

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Yes, let me some. Okay. All right, here's the thing. So we've got two things. Roxy, I'm going to give you good news, and I'm going to give you news. We'll see if you like. Well, first of all, before I even do that, Rock. Is it not trash news?

I want you to stop this for a second. I am going to tell you that I apologize to you because I said something about member berries, and you're like, you watched South Park. And I said, yeah, I watched South Park, you know, but it's not from South Park. It's been all over the place. And people corrected me throughout the comments. I think every other comment, which was... It was crazy.

I never had support like that in my life. It's like, Rocky is 100% correct. This is from Southman. I was like, really? I stand corrected. This was my lesson to myself. So all I have to do to get support is be right. That's it.

I'm going to be right more often. That's it. And just don't rely on everybody's thoughts. Just rely on your thoughts. I love that. I love that. Okay, so that's the first part. Remember when I was right about South Park?

Well, there you go. You were. So there's the first part. Now, I can tell you that we have now jumped up since your little, you're threatening the audience, which I don't like when people do, but you did it in a cute way. So we're at 21 right now. 21 and less trash than 13. Let's be real.

Let's be real. 22. 21, you can legally drink. You are something else. You are something else. You are something else. 21, you make a lot of mistakes. But none of those mistakes were asking a question.

Roka sweating. Rokos sweating. Okay. But anyway, let's get back to the topic. So we have a lot to talk about. So this is a story that we mentioned in the previous story. So Cretton is to direct Spider-Man 4. They've been looking for a Spider-Man for director

and there's finally movement on the fourth Spider-Man. Chung-Chi and the Legend of Ten Rings filmmaker, Destin Daniel Creton, is reportedly in talks to sign on to direct the Spider-Man for at Marvel and Sony Pictures. Creton takes over for John Watts, who directed the previous three that Holland star, excuse me, the previous three Holland starring movies. Mark Webb, held him the two Andrew Garfield films, why Sam Ramey directed the Toby McGuire trilogy. Tom Holland will remain in the role here with Chris McKenna and Eric Somers handling the script. Marvel head Kevin Feigy and former Sony chief Amy Pascal are producing.

The last film ended with the world magically forgetting who teenage Peter Parker was, including his friends and girlfriend MJ. Cretton's Shang-Chi is considered one of the best post-Avangers end-game films, and Cretton was slated to direct Avengers to Kang Dynasty before exiting in November. More recently, he's been show-running Marvel's Wonder Man series, which is now in post-production. He also remains attached to Shung-Chi sequel and a live-action in Nara 2 film, but Spider-Man 4 is racing ahead and will shoot early next year, meaning those will likely go back on the burner. All right, so let me ask you a question.

here we'll start with you mike this is a this is a movie that has been i mean there's two levels to this question i'm going to start with the first let's start with the director creton is this the right guy for the job shung chie showrunner of wonder man now going into this is he the right choice i don't know how's that for an answer good i don't know that's why you're here i don't know like the best color man in the business for nothing here's a thing here's the thing if he has a passion for the character of Spider-Man, then he's the right choice, because he can shoot and craft a very good film with Shang-chi.

Like the action played, you know, he balanced multiple characters. He balanced kind of a fantastical element with kind of a more grounded element. So he's got all the things there. But if he doesn't have a connection to the character, like, example, I'm going to use Matt, I think his name is Shankman, doing a fantastic four. Like, I didn't know his work before that. But seeing his passion for,

the characters and the life, I was like, this guy. And then to see what they had shot with the show of Comic Con. I was like, right choice. This guy gets it. Done. Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know.

Like, he had a connection. I think he was saying with Shang Chi with his upbringing. So there was that. And that's, I think, why that story resonated, especially, I didn't care so much for the fantastical stuff in the third act. I liked his more grounded stuff in the first two acts. But you could tell there was a connection to the material. So for me, it all comes down to that.

I mean, if he connects to it, great. It started with a terrible answer and ended up to a really good answer. I'll get there eventually. It was good. Roxy, how are you? Can I imagine if I did that with you? How did you feel about it, Rox? How was your date?

How was your last date? How was the last date? Any good? Mike just was embodying Brett for a second. Oh, no. I don't know. My last date, let's think. Was it the crazy person?

I've been off it for a second. I tell you about the guy who asked me out, but then he had this whole speech about good boys versus bad boys and I'm like dead of it. Yeah, we'll talk about some other time. Yeah, some other time. Some other time. All right.

So tell me about, so this. So the director. Did you guys see Just Mercy? Oh, yeah. Did he direct that? Oh, the, the, Michael B. Jordan? Yes.

Did he? Yes. Yeah, I did. I like that. Okay. I really liked that movie. He did that movie. He wrote and directed that.

That doesn't give me any more confidence necessarily in a Spider-Man movie. they have nothing to do with one another. I feel like it would give me more confidence in like a daredevil movie. But I think good directors be doing good stuff. So I just now it's not just Shang Chi that I loved. And I'm with you, Mike. The third act didn't fully work as well for me because I just don't like that kind of stuff as much.

Yeah. But the more grounded stuff did work, we can see why. Because somebody who can direct and write something like Just Mercy obviously has a good grip on reality and grounded. And I think that at this point, Tom Holland's been doing the role for long enough that he can bring the funny, no matter who the director is. He's just got that in him. So I think they could be a really interesting pair.

But also, I've never heard him talk about Spider-Man. So similar to Mike, I am curious, is he obsessed with Spider-Man? Is he, it takes, like, I feel like you'd have to find somebody under a rock who isn't because Spider-Man is, he's the biggest. what's happening? No, just what you're saying, what's happening. Just a little addendum to what you're saying. Because I almost kind of want to backtrack

on what I said because sometimes filmmakers that don't have an attachment to it, and I use the analogy of J.J. Abrams and Star Trek. But Tony Gilroy for the Andor. But Star Trek, this guy had no kind of connection to it. He's like I was always a Star Wars guy. But his Star Trek reinvigorated the franchise and did things with Star Trek that we'd never seen before.

So maybe this will be a nice shot in the arm for Spider-Man. Yeah, maybe he will. So look, I'm with you guys. My own words there. Well, no, I'm with you guys with Shang-chi. People love that movie. I think it's fine. I think that the first two acts are great.

And the third act lost me because it's to the fantastical stuff and dragons flying around and everywhere. And that it was the actual story with the dad, the kids, like everything. Yeah. the character stuff that really got me with that. And that's what I think that this next Spider-Man should be. And, I mean, the more grounded stuff. And that's what, from rumors, is that Feige and the crew want the more grounded street-level Spider-Man kind of playing into what they're also going with with Daredevil.

And that Sony wants the multiverse, Toby McGuire, Andrew Garfield, team-ups, big huge movie with Rothman leading that thing. And I hope they don't go that route. Because we, and in the same way that like, I thought Jurassic World, the new one, was going to take a page and go, oh, we have a big IP. We don't need to put the big, we can actually go back to what made the first one special and make a kind of smaller story. They're not doing that. They're going cuckoo-cucho with the monsters and all that crap again. So I know.

I just, you can tell. There was a synopsis kind of came out. They're like black ops soldiers, hunting dinosaurs. It's going to be the cuckoo-coo stuff, all the nines. But this is go-k-choo-c-c-choo. You are spending a lot of time with kids right now, Christian. Coo-Cook-C-C-C-C-C-C-Hu-C-C-H. Fit Hit the Shan is what they say.

The fit-Hit the Shahn. Yeah. Coug-C-C-C-C-Hu. Anyway, so I think that it needs to be ground-level. And if they do, he proved in those first two acts that he can do it. Because I don't blame the third act on him. That's the script he was given. It wasn't the way that he shot it.

It was the story and they're like, okay, we want to go big here, we want to do this. And he's like, okay, give it. I'll do it. this is how I did it. The directing of that stuff was great. It was just I just don't like that they went there. That was the script. So I mean, he can handle it. Screenplay. Yeah. He did the screenplay too. So I mean, but again,

but it's not he was told by them what they wanted. So it's a matter of like as long as they want the street level thing, which is I hope what they wind up getting. But I got to ask you guys, what do you think? Is this the way to go? Is this the director? that we need here to make this happen? What say you guys? Put your comments in there. Tell us exactly what you think.

Okay. So we're going to move on to another thing that rocks you. I feel like I always misrepresent your opinions on these things. I feel like you're on board with me on this one, but I'll find out after I read the story. My guess is that you're on board with this. I think that you are, but it could be very well that you're not. The Harry Potter movies, the Harry Potter movies,

books are turning into a series on HBO Max. I feel like Roxy is. I think she was calling for HBO series forever, and I feel like that's where we landed on that. But anyway, HBO has opened a casting call for the key three roles of Harry Potter, Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger in its upcoming Harry Potter TV series.

Fans spotted the announcement circulating online Monday with HBO subsequently saying that they were confirming it. Actors are required to be between the ages of 9 and 11 as of April 2025 and must be residents of the UK and Ireland. Otherwise, the notice indicates they are committed to inclusive, diverse casting, and so-qualified performers are being sought without regard to ethnicity, sex, disability, race, sexual orientation, gender identity, or any other basis predicted by law under specifically indicated.

Otherwise, actors are required to submit two self-tapes, one to be a max of 30 seconds and is a short poem, monologue, or story, but nothing from Harry Potter or the world of that franchise. The other to be a minute long with details about the actor. The submission deadline is October 31st. Filming on the series is expected to take place in the UK during 2025-2020. The show is expected to run for seven seasons. With each adapting one of the books in J.K. Rowling series,

Francesca Gardiner will show run and executive produce. Okay, this is big news. Roxy, I'm correct that you've been calling for this series for a long time, right? For years, what we've been talking about. out as I've been saying, why aren't you guys doing this? Why aren't you guys doing this? This is like an absolute dead ringer for them. And just even from a money making perspective, it's like this is clearly going to be such a W as long as they don't do what rings of power did, which is spend $1 billion on it. They're going to have to spend a good amount of money.

But this is, I think this is a no brainer. There's a whole, my whole thing on this show seems to be the youth, Christian. Yeah. The whole generation that now can come up with a Harry Potter show. And people who read the books know that they didn't include half the stuff in the movies. So doing a series will allow them to include some of the stuff that the book readers love as much as the stuff in the movies as well as things that didn't make the movies. So I think that this is a no-brainer. What a cool thing to be the casting director of this. Yeah, well, it cool and stressful at the same time because the casting for the movies were so good, so reviewed.

People people people it's gonna be you know obviously like anything else gonna be compared to Daniel Radcliffe and and And all in the whole crew that was that was cast before them So you're always gonna have the comparison of who was the better one who is that's that's just inevitable That's gonna happen but what you don't want to do is cast somebody like that's terrible bad actor bad actress doesn't work Doesn't fit the role doesn't and just you can't ever fit into it because there's times where you can cast that I'll use Katie Sackov as an example, right? The second one, Katie Sacka was cast as Starbucks. Everyone was, oh, girl, for Starbucks, that's not going to work. That's terrible. And then she was one of the most loved things on the show. So it does, it does work, but you have to be careful in casting. This is,

again, they didn't know how many seasons battle Star Wars going on. They know this thing's going over seven seasons. I agree with you, Rocks. One of the main things that's so important about this is that I remember reading the books and then watching the movies, thinking the movies were so good, going, they left out so much. They left out so much. And another reason why I continue, Mike, when we talk about Star Wars, of why I think Star Wars should adapt their books, because there's so much you can turn a book like, whether it's the Darth Plague's novel or, or whether it's the, any of the novel.

Even they would have turned the Obi-1 novel into a series. You could take that and turn it into an eight-episode, hour-long thing, and really get deep stuff out of it. So, Mike, you know, you hear all this. This is something I know that you had to study up on the Harry Potter movies when we were doing the Schmo down. And so you know it pretty well. How do you feel? Is this something that they should tackle? Is this, is in, is the casting, how imperative is it? You know, when I heard the announcement of, well, Miss Rowling is such a terrible person. She's tainted her, she's tainted her. She's tainted. at Harry Potter. It is, it is this thing about inclusion about this and that. And then the fact to

see what she is and what she's being, just this awful, awful person. I don't want this series to go forward. I don't want it. She's making hand over fist money on this thing. It's rewarding being an awful person. Yeah, but see, here. Daniel Radcliffe is beloved. Those three are so beloved in those roles. And again, I didn't watch the Potter. I'd read the books. I had to watch them for the series, for the Shmowdown. And I saw the first film and I was like, this just isn't for me. I'm generations beyond this.

But I love that it got people. I remember the bookstores, the lines out the door for books for these kids and young people reading. And I was like, this is awesome. That these people are finding a love of reading. And those are people that are now adults

and in careers that are teaching and whatnot. So I think it was generational. But it's done. It had its thing. It was a great, they're great films, but great filmmakers, great actors, like the cat, like, it's like watching Rings of Power. I can't tell you one actor in Rings of Power.

You don't, and again, I know they're not, you know, those characters aren't there in the books or different characters, but like all those characters in the films, Lord of the Rings, they made such an impact on those characters and those, the world and, but these are going to be, so Rings of Power is different because it's not the same actors. these are going to be the same characters.

We've seen all these characters. Yeah. How do you beat Gary Olman? How do you beat Alan Rick? Well, there's always, well, there's always ways. I mean,

you're going to be. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, is it, take it a race, like, but wouldn't you say,

wouldn't you have said the same thing about when they, because you're a Batman guy, so when they cast Heath, my guy. No, when they, it's fine, but when they cast Heath Ledger,

you were like, that guy's going to be, you know, over, I was not. I never liked that. No, but with, okay, right. So then you're always give the actor's chance.

Okay. Well, then you're making your own point right now. So you don't know, but it's not. It's the ledger, the Dark Night is not, they were not remaking the 89 Batman. No, but they're doing a different, but they're not remaking it. But they're not remaking it. No, no, let me finish. All right, go ahead. Go ahead.

The Michael King Batman is a fantastical movie set in a fantastical world where it's the dark night. They were doing a grounded, like Nicholson's Joker would never work in Nolan's film. But the Potter films, it's the same story. You're setting in the same world. If they were going, we're going to take the Potter books and set it 200 years ago, but with the same story. Then we're different. Or we're going to set it in the future world.

Yeah, what about Percy Jackson? What about the Percy Jackson? What about the Percy Jackson? The Star is born is going to. Percy Jackson. The Star is born. That's not some beloved classic that generations talk about. What?

What? It is. But what about Percy Jackson? Oh, okay. No, do it. Not in the same way. Not in the same way. Not in the same way, but it still is.

But addressing, there's a lot you said that needs to be addressed. The first is that I think when it comes to remaking it, being able to explore it and tell more, streaming wasn't around during this time, to take these books, really evolve on it, and to see what can happen throughout it, is something that is very intriguing. And if you're Warner Brothers, you want to expand on the IP.

And that's, to your previous point, we don't know what the deal is that they had with J.K. Rowling, that they could absolutely have, like, a licensing deal or something else that it could be from what they had that they have privy to make whatever the hell they want, that she's already been paid out on this stuff through streaming so they can make TV shows and everything too, so you don't know that. What I feel is that also it's a matter of jobs, other things, opportunities for other people that, and I've been on the opposite side of this conversation with people that they don't

agree with me, but I think that it opens up opportunities in the same way that people said that they weren't going to support the flash when Ezra Miller was in it. And I said, well, then go and see it because of Michael Keaton. Go and see it because you want to see it. And so for me, it's like you're not just throwing down money on this. You already have HBO Max. And for me, I think that the world does mean a lot to a lot of different people. And I think that it's also a way for people that do feel slighted from J.K.

Relling that they can make the stuff that she came and that she made about them and about feeling that they were included in that way and use it if they want. wanted to. So go ahead, Roxy. You're going to say. I think that, first of all, Mike, couldn't agree with you more. I think she's absolute trash. Talk about real trash, not the trash comments that were coming in. Those were good trash. This is bad trash. She's trash. But the lawsuit against her right now is giving me so much joy because finally for the first time in a long time, she's just shut the up, which is what we've all been waiting for. I think that this show is not going to make her any bigger at all.

If I thought that she, and this is unfortunate because she might make money from it, I'm sure she will. But she's not the star of the show. So it's not like this is going to put her on people's television to television screens every day. I have an easier time separating the art from the artist when we don't have to effing look at them. It's why, like, it comes up on this show way too often.

But like when Mel Gibson directs a movie versus when he stars in a movie, one of those I cannot watch. And the other one is like, I try not to, but it's not as distracting to me. Or when Motley Crew comes on, or when Michael Jackson comes on, or when certain people come on the radio and you're not looking at them, it's easier than when you have to do something like watch the Flash or watch American Beauty go to or anything that we've seen that has somebody who's been like just absolutely canceled. I think that it's easier when it's the creator. and I don't think that this is going to make her star any bigger or give her a platform that she didn't already have.

That's my hope at least. Look at the game. Look at the game. The game, Hogwarts Legacy, right? Is that the name of the game? That game crushed. It was one of the biggest. But it was also not the characters currently.

It wasn't Potter. It wasn't Hermione. It's still her world. It is. But I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like, because I, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, Roxy, I'm going to pull an Adam Gertler here.

I'm going to read the tea leaves. Yeah. I guarantee they're going to cast Hermione and Ron as ethnic. And Potter, they'll go like traditional white. And I guarantee that will be a firestorm. That will cause the internet to erupt on those dark corners of it. And then they're going to probably make some trans actors in the cast. And that's going to cause a firestorm.

I guess let it. What's up? Let it cause. a firestorm if people are upset about that. Right. Okay. But you need, but you need. Well, wait, but wait. As we're seeing.

But I want to go back to what Roxy's saying there because wait a minute. Because this will go back to the whole conversation that we just had about the acolyte, right? So let's say that all that just happens. What you guys just said, you're 100% right. There will be videos made before the show ever airs. People will be causing a protest. The way to beat that is to make the show.

good. If you make the show good, if the writing is good, it does not matter. They will not shut up. They're going to complain about it all the time, but if the show is good and people who are watching and going, all right, well, you know what, the right, I wasn't, I didn't think the casting was, maybe they shouldn't have done it, but man, I fit the role. I'm into it. This is a good show. I was expecting it to stink and it was great. If they can do that, which is possible, they can make it happen. That the act like did not do that. And that's what I try to tell people. did not do that. We're people who loved it. Roxy really enjoyed it. There are people who liked it.

There are people who liked it. She did. She liked it. I'm the only one I know, but I did. But Roxy, but the thing is, Roxy is such a great representation of what I wish the majority of people who were watching this show that liked it understood. Roxy said, she goes, look, I get it. I love this show. She said, I really dug this show. I thought it was good. She's like, I did think the writing was good.

I did think the acting was good. But it didn't do well. It didn't do well, and people weren't. Right. So it shouldn't come back. She was realistic about it. And it's like that's how it goes. Sure. And the same goes for this show.

Even if the casting is, if everybody's happy with it from the get-go. And it stinks. Then it should go off the air. Okay. No, they're committed to seven seasons. We're going to get seven seasons. You're not getting seven seasons. You're not getting seven seasons.

People ain't watching it. Wait, so what I will say, though, is to Mike's point a little bit, what I couldn't help but, kind of giggle when Christian, you were reading the description in the Dark Horizons article, and for some reason, they decided to say, otherwise the notice indicates they are committed to inclusive, diverse casting, and so qualified performers are being sought without regard to ethnicity, sex, disability, race, sexual orientation, gender identity, or any other basis protected by law, unless otherwise specifically indicated, they were like, they felt they had to, yeah, right.

felt like they had to specifically state that, which should be what it is for any role, right? Yeah, but this is so in, but this is so in tune with what's going on. No, of course, but I'm just saying, whatever role we cast now, it should be best actor gets role. Best actor gets role. The actor, best for that part, gets role. But because this movie, because these movies and these books have so much baggage because of JK, they immediately were like, don't worry, we're going to be as inclusive as possible. We're being inclusive. and I don't know that that was necessary.

I said something because it was kind of like, you were like, wait, what do you say? Why are you including all that? What is going on here? Yeah, well. Yeah, that was fun. All right, that was a lot. Okay. That was a lot.

So I'm asking you guys in the comment section, I'm seeing in the live chat right now, put your thoughts on all of that. Do you think that this show should happen? Any of Mike's points, any of my points, any of Roxy's points, anything you agree with, disagree with put it in the comment section let us know exactly what you think all right so currently we're at 29 questions right now 29 questions so we are going to we're going to we're going to so basically i think we're going to do is i'm going to cover one more that's not trash all right that's great that's a great yeah we're going to cover i'm going to cover this last

story and then we're going to jump into the questions because we do have quite a few of them so let's get into this last story here and that's our boy happy gilmore happy gilmore happy gilmore begins production. Adam Sandler and Netflix have confirmed that production has officially begun on the Happy Gilmore sequel. Both have shared a new photo on social media showcasing the characters famed Boston Bruins jersey. Sandler...

Bless you. Sandler adds in the caption that they have only just begun. Nice. Sandler will reprise his role as the titular Happy Gilmore, while NFL superstar Travis Kelsey and filmmaker actor Benny Safdi are both in the film in some capacity. Christopher McDonald who played Shooter McGavin in the original, in March that he had seen a draft of the script, so it's expected that he will appear.

The Dennis Dugan-helmed original released in the U.S. February, 1996, and went on to gross $39 million from a $12 million budget, along with it still being one of Sandler's signature roles. Happy Gilmore 2 does not yet have a release date. I'm so curious to what you guys think about this, because to me, this is such a good representation of where we are in media today, right? If you look at like Beverly Hills Cop, Beverly Hills Cop is a movie that you couldn't imagine 15 years ago only being on television.

It would have been all over the 15, 20 years ago, whether it would have done well or not or who knows 15 years ago, 20 years or whatever it was. But it had to come out. Adam Stanley, you can imagine Adam Sandler was going to do a TV version of this. Now this is where comedies live. This will be made for a lot more money than the original budget.

I'll tell you that. And it'll do very well. Well, people will be watching this. It'll be a nostalgia thing. Whether it'll be any good, who cares? I just want to watch it. I want to see Happy Back. I want to see some, there's going to be some stupid laughs as long as I laugh a couple

times. Hopefully it's better than coming to America too. Did you say it's a TV series? No, it's a movie for Netflix. He was saying at one point, you would think something. Listen, people are going to watch this and I am people. This man's my obsession. He's on a like top 10 all time for me list.

I love Adam Sandler. I love him. I even love his absolute trash, the word of the show. I love his trash. I love his gold. I love everything that he does. He is like my Jewish daddy and I am just so obsessed with him. I love this movie growing up.

I would watch this with my brother, all of them, everything that he did. So do I think that this movie needed a scene? sequel obviously not obviously did not need a sequel nobody was sitting here like you know what needs a sequel this is what needs a sequel but i actually think that this has the opportunity to be very funny and very good and even if it's not like you said christian i kind it makes a boatload of money and we see more of these yeah mike how you feeling about this there you go that's my reaction that's it that's all you got for i don't like his stuff at who but nobody nobody who's sure but to jacks you know like you didn't like the original no really it's not for me it's just not for me i think i hate you problem mike that's

you problem that's a you problem it is what was it 30 years ago 96 almost 30 years ago comedy's different comedy changed wow like look at me look at you as in a person harliff look at you and i we became friends in our 20s yeah you know i'm not the same person i was in the frat days no you're more of an able if i'm going to make a movie about mike klanoski frat boy and then 30 years later we're going to make the sequel to frat boy mike and i'm still the same doing the same way and doing it's like well you don't know if you don't know if he's doing the same thing oh dude come on what do you mean he's got the same damn shirt on but i don't mean but the character i don't wear the same clothes i were 30 fucking years ago what the character might evolve a little bit

you know you know he's got a and and sandler look this is when stanler's at his best same thing sandler's my favorite adam sandler movie of all time is the wedding singer and what what he does so well in that is that he combines the goofiness with the heart and there is some heart in happy but less than in the wedding singer i hope that he combines the two of it i hope he combines the two it's what what i'm going to be what's going to be missed obviously though is the late great carwether's uh as chubs so 100 percent yeah 100 percent what other this is a question for christian not for mike not mike you can't even answer this question christian this is just for you uh although i'm obsessed with doing this show with Mike. I've missed you so much. It hurts. Okay, Christian. What other Adam Sandler movie

would you want to see a sequel of? Wedding Singer. Wedding Singer. That's the number one. Yeah, I would like to see, I would like to see, you know, maybe a movie with them in, I guess, 30 years later, it would be the, would be like the 2000s. Well, it'd be like the 2000s. That would be so great. Yeah, like the, I like a sequel to the little Nikki. Oh, God, no. That was, no, he's kidding. He's kidding. He's kidding. a terrible movie um anyway all right so how you guys feeling it would be good too oh go ahead you don't go ahead tell me i don't care well i don't want to get to the questions that would be going too either one with the two of that's good that's i just don't know if drew barrymore wants to act number one yeah you know

i don't know she wants to act anymore i mean she might if she's don't care no you should tell her no you should tell her all right guys what do you think about that happy gilmore coming back do you care Do you not care? Because you have Netflix, and one of the reasons that this stuff works is that because you have it, you'll probably watch it. So that's how it works. What do you think? Put your comments in there. Tell us what you think.

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with Matt Sarah and he launched it. Not only did we launch it today, he's talking X-Men films, but he's going on Joe Rogan today to promote it. So that's awesome. That's good. Congratulations. Yeah, so It's going to be a big one. So you guys can check that out and watch Matt and Phoenix Carnivali talking about X-Men films, which is hilarious. And thanks to, yeah, go ahead, Max. No, no, go ahead.

I was just thinking Luke from the Galaxy Geeks. He made the logos for that. And again, really great intro to the show. So it's a solid show. I'm excited for people to see it. You said he's talking about X-Men? Yeah, the first one's, X-Men worst to best.

And then next week, yeah, next week is Ray Longo. on who's his trainer and he uh are you going to train i'm going to yeah yeah i'm going to so he's been trying to get me in every wednesday it's been tough to do but i'm going to now he's not he's out of town right now we're so um what we will but all right let's get into wednesday so that might help you it will i just texted brett because um this camera situation is so crazy he's out of town too i know but i thought maybe he'd respond but he didn't and i want people to know that yeah all right let's let's get these questions roxy got 32 questions 32 32 32 32 30 32.

32 questions. Oh, Broca, we're coming for you, my dude. I don't think you're gonna catch it, but you won't catch it, but you got close. 32 is a great, great debut. You don't know that? I do. Jason Ashcroft. However you feel about the state of Star Wars, now is not the time.

Let us come together as a fan base and honor the man who played one of the greatest characters in fiction. Yes, James Earl Jones was an absolute wonder, and the fact that, you know, the stuff that he did and what he brought to, Darth Vader was just untouchable. untouchable. So very true and good statement. Okay, EWalk, I'm just doing my part to help Roxy and Mike beat Roka's record of 45. RIP to James Earl Jones. In addition to Star Wars, I loved him in coming to America, Conan the Barbarian, and the hunt for Red October. All three great movies, great listening, and I love hearing how much this dude meant to so many people. Armada. I like the old man season one a lot, but I felt the flashbacks were a bit boring at times.

Anyways excited for season two this Thursday nonetheless Mike I know you're a big old man fan like me So yeah go ahead tell us you're excited I can't wait I but I'm in a disagreement I did enjoy the flashback I did too I did too yeah that both actors did a real nice especially the lithgow guy did such a good job of Mimicking he did he did that's a great point he did a really good guy was like his man is because lithgow's got such a distinct voice but so does bridges but I love that show and that's one of the reasons I love John Watson yeah I'm excited for that show I am excited for that show I didn't I didn't realize it was this week it starts I forgot this Thursday this Thursday nice okay yeah so people are gonna be asking because I never got a response from Roxy's I'm assuming we're not doing TV picks today the way you phrase it make it sound like that you didn't want them that's not true you were like you want to do them I was like I don't know it's like I didn't know if you were because I hadn't hurt from you so I wasn't sure I always want you to do them I always want you to do them I always want you to do them How about that? Oh, okay. And I, especially after I finish show.

I'll give them one. Okay. I'll give them one at the end because a lot of them are the same as last week. But, like, low-key, Christian, why do you watch the old man? Because I love it. Because I recommended it to you. I don't think so. I think I found it.

I didn't find out. I know that you might have. I watched a show that I haven't recommended to you in a decade. You don't think that. You know, you tell me I never watch shows that you recommend. Yeah, but the only shows you do watch are the ones I recommend. You just don't watch a lot of TV. I love this show.

The one, the only one that I know that you recommended that I definitely watched because you recommended, and I was severance. Yeah, that's so good. Severance, I was going to, I was, I was going to bail on because I told you, I can't take this walking down the hallway, and it was one of my favorite shows. It was so good. Yeah, people didn't like, some people didn't like that pilot, but I really did. Old Man is awesome.

I was worried with the way that we ended season one, and you guys know, like, the behind scenes and health issues that we were never going to get a season two, and it was just kind of going to fall by the way. wayside. So I'm so excited that we have this season two. Me too. Okay. Yeah. That's what I thought when they and then is like in his help, he came back to finish by it. I was like, oh, they're not doing season two. I'm so glad that they yeah. They did it and did it fast. Yeah. Love it. Okay, here's the next one. Mike Joyce. Christian has his Julia Roberts opinion. Mike and Roxy, what's a unique hill that you'll die on? What's the Julia Roberts Hill? I told you this. I told you this. Have you not? You've not been a part of this conversation yet, because we haven't done this live. Um, Roke and I got into a conversation

about Florence Pugh now in her prime and Julia Roberts in her prime and and he remember a little bit about he's a he's he thinks that he he doesn't think Julia Roberts is attractive at all and in her in her in what yeah and and I said she's that it's the goat and and I think Florence Pugh is a phenomenal actress I just don't think she's this end-all be-all that so many people think that she is as far and and I put the two of them to compare I think it doesn't even compare so why were you guys comparing the two I don't know how it came.

You know, I said something along the lines. We brought up a Florence Pew movie, and I said, I think she's really talented. I just don't find her as attractive as everybody else does. And he said, and he was like, you're crazy. She's better than Julie Roberts. I said, you're nuts. You're crazy. And so different types.

Yeah, there's so different. Totally. There's movie star and girl next door. Totally. Yeah, there just would be so many, I mean, like compared Julie Roberts to Anna Roberts. Right. She's more in line. But, okay, so your take is that.

Well, that's just a normal thing. He's just asking what's a unique hill that you'll die on, I guess because there were a lot of people, because I think it's recent. Oh, I got a hill I'll die on. Go ahead. I believe that in Nolan's Dark Night trilogy, the Dark Night is the weakest film.

Wow. Yeah, that's a stupid statement. No, it's 100%. And I can, I'll back it up. You can't back. You can't back. It's my least favorite. And I think it's the,

it is the least Batman movie. in a Batman trilogy. Did you say that on DC Movie News? Oh, I said it all the time. He just said it live. I blocked it out. I blocked that out because that would make me really look at you differently. You just did.

Because the fact that you guys are all watching it as fans of movies and comics, but you're not watching it as a Batman fan. And the fact that if you take him out of the bat suit in that film, it's a crime drama. There's nothing Batman about it. Okay. Rossi. The city is Chicago. They don't do anything to hide it.

Roxy, my take on Julia Roberts is. smart that one not so much do you have one um i tend to think that pta's movies are extremely pretentious and i do not like phantom thread okay that's a fair one um all right let's say next one here and this is from armada core core core core core core coleman what's right what's wrong only because it pops up on my screen not on my phone christian but dc movie news chat popping off right now because our producer Ryan Nelson who used to produce this. Mike, you think Dark Knight is number three ranked in that trilogy? Yeah.

Which is amazing that this live show, immediately the DC movie news show that you put together, Christian, like 10 years ago, still has a chat. It does. All right. Armada. Corey Coleman, the great Cory Coleman, says he been around New York, September 27. You should try to hit him up if he wants to be on the show sometime. I will because I love Corey. And if Corey can get to my part of town, I'd love to have money.

He's hilarious. I'm a big fan of Corey. I think he's a great guy. Armada follows it up. The new LL Cool J album is Fire. Produced by Q-Tip from the Tribe. Very jazzy rap. I love hearing that. Hope Q makes more of a comeback.

I love hearing that. That's great. Thank you for telling me that. I'm going to check that out. Yeah, that's cool. I'm going to check that out. I didn't know. Those are two, I mean, LL is.

Produced by Q-tip? Yeah. Don't sound, you don't sound any more white than you are. I don't know who that is. Is this by Q-Tip? You don't know who Tribe called Questus? Who?

Are you? Oh, a tribe call quest. Yes, I've heard of it. Okay, okay, okay. Is Q-Tip in that? No. No, it's just a non-secretary. Are Q-Tips in your ear?

Yeah, of course. Yes, Q-Tip is in it, and he dated Nicole Kibman. Derek Johnson, my two James Earl Jones roles that I grew up with Muf, are with Mufasa and Estal Saddum and Conan scared the hell out of me. Yeah, he was scary, especially with that hair as a villain. Do you think he got his proper flowers while he was alive? I feel like we celebrate these people too late sometimes, I think James Earl Jones got love anytime you brought him up.

I mean, I agree. I think that anytime someone passes away, they get more, obviously. But yes, I do 100%, 100% think he got a lot of love because he was just, he was beloved by so many. Yeah, I agree. Simon section. Thank you, Simon. Christian, I was actually thinking about fill the dreams when I woke up for my nap. I guess it's the universe way of telling us that he went home giggling.

even made soul man watching watchable r ap king was he in soul man i think that he was but do you remember that soul man movie that would that's a movie that's a movie that would never get made today i'll make that today why not right it was boots touching that with a 10 foot pole no way um do you even know what that movie's about roxy so no i do you don't mean sole train you know so man so man so man was a movie with see thomas howell who in ray don't chong and He is, he's trying to get into a college, but he can't. So because of, I think it's because of affirmative action, he pretends he's a black guy and goes and he's, yeah, he's in blackface the entire movie.

And this is an 80s movie. And it's like not. It age well, I'm assuming. No way. Whoa. You go ahead. I'm just talking and spitballing. Go ahead.

But why do, why would they make white chicks again today? Did they? They want to remake that. There's the talk of doing. it again. Yeah, it's a different. It is. I know. I get it because the history of what that is. Yeah, it's different. I'm just saying. I don't want to

like I don't, I don't think I ever saw Soul Man, but I know it's and what it is. It was a movie of its time. Armada. Would Richard choose Lisa Ann over Miss Garrett? I have to ask him. We'll see if Roxy can listen to them. What? What is he Garrett?

Lisa Ann over Miss Garrett? I mean, look, Lisa Ann can do some tricks here and there and listen. It's like a machine. and whatnot, but Mrs. Garrett is a sure way of punishment in a good way, if you know what I'm saying. Thanks, Richard. Appreciate it. Wonderful.

He's got the thing with Mrs. Garrett. Yeah. So, Steve, Catathino. Thank you. Canon Neo, Catino. I think that's it. Patino. Close. Sorry, Steve. Good job, Christian.

Butchered the poor guys. Doing good, pal. Lion King was the first movie I saw in theaters as a kid when my little sister, with my little sister, and I clapped. I'll never forget how that made me feel RIP. Yeah, Steve, you know what's funny about that, too. I saw that with my late brother. We went and we saw that one in Florida.

I saw it with him. And yeah, it's a lot of memories there for those movies, for sure. So that's a, yeah, he was the best. He was the best. Derek Johnson. On Monday's live show with Roka, Christian did plug the appearances of Mike and Roxy on today's show, and it's literally the only reason I knew that you both.

both be on today. See, Roxy? I did promote it. That's great. No, that... Yeah. Did I say you did it? Yeah, in the beginning of the show, you said I didn't... No, I just said that you didn't tweet it, so I couldn't retweet it, so my people aren't here to support time. Fine. I'm going to give another chance here. Steve Catania. Love the channel for years, by the way. Thank you, Steve. Love Christian, Mark, John, and Crew, and Roxy, too, of course. Good day. Thank you, Steve. That was very kind of you. Steve coming in with a great question and a lot of love.

Okay. one we're 35 rocks you 10 away you're 10 away oh keep on plugging you non-trash people renne reyes question for roxy roxy you went to chicago for star war celebration in 2019 yet you didn't even go to the five-day event one time can you explain these horrendous acts i just want to be clear i didn't go to chicago for star war celebration i went to Chicago and it happened to be Star Wars Celebration. I went there for the Shmowdown, which was during that. And then I was with my best friend who lives in Chicago. So I spent the five days having the time of our lives going around Chicago and being debauchous.

And I didn't make it to Star Wars Celebration. That's just what happened. Fair. Hey, that's fair. And I think, yeah, because Steph, the first one she went to was the one that was that your first Star Wars celebration too Mike one of the three of us was yeah 22 that was one I saw you guys there and that was my first was one of my favorite moments I will ever dude I ever will have was when we were coming back from Disneyland and Mike almost got hit by a lady in a one of those rolling cars and the move he made to get out of the way step and I were we both fell on the ground laughing in tears it was the funny it was just like there was it was a whole the conference the whole story would take too long to tell but But essentially what happened was we were all walking and there was, we tried to get out of the way this,

because there were people come in and then we crossed the street. And like magically, this woman on this chair just appeared behind Mike and almost ran him over. And he did like this weird step to get out of the way. And it was like, ended up in the bushes. It was just amazing. I mean, it was just truly amazing. And she didn't even say anything. No.

No, that was part of the best. It was just like, get out of the way. Like, I'm meant to run you over. Also, Christian, what's a rolling car? I don't know. In ECV, like the little... The rollers. Motorized wheelchairs.

It doesn't matter. It's a motorized scooter, not a wheelchair. Mike's going to like this one because someone agrees with him. Hey, Derek Johnson says, I totally agree with Mike. These super long delays between Blockbuster movies, I hate them. Some people just lose interest. Look what happened to Invincible on Amazon. That long delay caused a huge drop-off in viewership.

It does take a long... I mean, look, House of the Dragons is another one if he's going to have enough time to catch up. because the second season was not as beloved as the first. I loved the second season. But that could be, that could be something that's going to hurt. So, but Mike, yeah, what do you think about Derek? He agrees with you. Hey, smart man.

Simple as that. Perfect. Good, good comments. Concise to the point. Great. Thank you. Derek's the best. Thank you, Derek, for all your support.

Derek supports all the damn time. Nick Alexander, RIP to a legend. So many good memories of James Earl Jones. By the way, Roxy, did you see the real, rejects scare footage what's that what's the real rejects scare footage I don't know so maybe so the answer is no I just I don't remember the last time that I didn't see footage that they did because I handle all their social stuff so was that a real is that a YouTube video no I didn't see it you didn't see it so Roxy didn't see it following that

Mark Jason Ali that's on Mark Roxy I finally watched always Lola the film is fantastic you were amazing Was there a conversation about you playing Cat as well as Lola? Nice question. Thank you so much. No, there was not a conversation about that. I will take this opportunity to plug that. I'm in a movie that premieres tonight.

Nice. And we have our movie premiere. It's called Krust. If you're a horror nerd, it's with Felissa Rose from Sleepway Camp, Sean Whalen from People Under the Stairs. It says directorial debut, Alan Rucks in the movie, Danny Roebuck. if you're a lost person.

So I'm really excited. It premieres tonight. And I actually think that they're allowing for the premiere a few fans. I think people are DMing Sean Whalen, the director. So if you're in the L.A. area, reach out to him. And there might be a couple seats left for the premiere. Awesome. Thank you, Roxy.

Thank you to that question by Mark. Okay. So this is Haskell 420. Cliphanger ending of Fast X. That's right. Good call. Dom and his son about to be drowned or killed from the damn blowing up when it ends when they start filming fast one or two wait sorry fast 11 when they start

filming fast 11 he said one of two that he didn't come in yet his second one Christian can read all the words christian knows all the numbers christian that's the furious one and two good mike sing it 11 go ahead Mike Kalinowski. He hates everything. Doesn't really matter whether you talk or sing. He'll tell you that you suck. He'll tell you you you're the worst.

And now it doesn't matter if you're last or first. Hit him with a golf card. Yeah. I like that song. I do too. Perfect. All right. Here we go.

This is that. We did that one already. Okay. So Haunted Autumn. Don't spend it all in one place. Thank you, Haunted Autumn with a nice donation. We won't. Appreciate that.

So this is from Roman Fedorak. Hey, Crow, excited to be here and see you all? What are your most anticipated movies for the rest of the year? Gladiator 2 is the big one for me and Christian, I believe. What are some others? Gladiator 2 is certainly up there, my friend, as is Joker 2. Those are probably the two that I go to immediately when I think of those. I'm sure there's some other Saturday night is another one that I'm excited to see.

But I think out of those, Roxy, what say you? Was my exact two are Joker and Saturday. Those are things that I'm looking forward to. The Joker reviews have got me a little conflicted, though. But wouldn't the original have, you know, the same thing? It seemed like there was a repeat exactly what it was. Yes, however, I don't remember from the original. Maybe you guys do that one of the main criticisms was that it's dull.

Like the word dull keeps coming up, which sounds crazy to me because this is a Joker musical. So I don't understand even if you don't like it dull. That's a weird critique. So it makes me wonder what's going on in this film. Okay. We'll see. I mean, I am curious about it. And the screenings are coming pretty, pretty soon.

Are they Christian? I wouldn't know. I think so. Sorry, Rock. I can't help you out anymore. I'm not there. Mike, I can't get invited to shit anymore. What happened, Rox?

I don't know. I used to be able to not only get myself in, but get all. Yeah, what happened? You used to go everything. No one cares. What happened? not cool anymore man i'm just not i didn't hire myself saying i didn't mean like that did you what i said no one nobody cares but i didn't mean like i didn't mean nobody cares that you're

saying it i meant that clearly they they look at the emails and nobody nobody cares i'm doing here i'm trying roxy what you're saying right now to nobody nobody cares nobody nobody cares you're probably right though that's not what you intended probably nobody it cares about this Nobody cares. Derek Johnson, the trash comment. Oh, I'm done. Sending them right now. Thank you, Derek, you sent it a ton, man. Thank you.

And I, rocks is kidding, too, by the way. It's like anybody, you put in one comment. Well, I'm happy when people put in one comment. Dennis Hoffman. Me too. I don't think any of you are trash. They know. They just know you're competitive.

And you're at 38. You're at 38, Rock. Seven away. Seven away with half an hour to go. Dennis Hoffman, 13 questions is good. You see Wolfman trailer. Thoughts? I dug it.

Ideas for the next uni monster's movie via Blumhouse. Who's directing? Well, I don't know the next uni monster because I feel like they don't know how to get it done. But Blumhouse to me is always, they're just the magic, the magic studio. Because even if they don't put it, I just saw, I don't even know the embargoes dropped, so I won't leave too much of it, but speak no evil last night. Which is a remake of a, I think it's a Danish film. And it's James McAvoy, and it's a Blumhouse film. And it's, it's conventional.

It's fine. He's just playing a lunatic the whole time. But it was entertaining. And they're going to make money on it because it probably cost nothing to make. And it's movies like that that'll probably do pretty well. Go ahead, Roxy. Say something. Well, Mikey would know more about this than me, but I just went and did the terror tram

at Universal Horror Nights and it's all Blumhouse themed. And going through, I was just like, man, Blumhouse just slaps across the board. They're so great. Like, I love, love what. Longhouse has done for the horror genre. It's really cool to see. Yeah. Good. Thanks, Mike. So, Roman Fedorak. Also, something I meant to add yesterday, you talked about Chinoy, possibly leaving the Ray movie. What leads you to believe that? Not disagreeing, just curious. This is something Mike and I can chime in on. I said, I got this one. Don't worry.

Go ahead, Roxy. Take it. Yeah, that would be crazy, right? Perfect. Just perfect. Color commentary on point. The reason why I say it, don't have any insight information on it i don't have any way to told me that she's leaving my my my thought process in it is that if in the only movies that they have coming out that we know for sure is the favro movie that they announced in 2026 they've already announced that they're going to do a move that that movie and they announced at d23 that that movie is coming out in may they announced that they were putting a movie out in 2026 and everyone hinted that it was going to be this Ray movie. They brought Ray out on stage at one point two. They have D23. They have an opportunity

to announce their two movies. They announce one. When they've already announced with that 2026 and they're getting closer and closer to the production of having to go into production for one of these movies. Does that necessarily mean it's not going to happen? No. But I just don't think it's going to. And I think that one of the reasons is I think that it's going to be a back and forth. And I think that the same type of thing is happening and I don't I think she'll wind up leaving the project but I could be wrong I could be wrong Mike we've had conversations about this do you think she's going to wind up directing this movie do you think this movie's going to happen I guess too I don't know man that I don't know I I kind of feel because it's already an established character with Ray

they're doing a little more steady ground than Tyka Mangold Lord or Beniof and Weiss any of these ones that came in with a take that was like this is what I want to do And they're like, yeah, go do it. This at least is the rape. Like, it's an established character. They know that there is a fan base for her. I think it gives a little more leeway to her that she'll stick it out and keep going. But it all, man, again, man, like we say, they need a hit.

They need that first movie to knock it out. They really do. Mandalorian Grogu is the first one. Mandolarian Grogu is the first one. They got to nail that. You're going to. It's so exciting. That movie will make money.

But, Mike, it's very similar to what we've been talking about with Marvel, though. but Captain America, the new Captain America, that's the one that needs to make money for Marvel. That's what I said. I said this forever. I was like, Deadpool Wolverine's going to make a billion dollars. That's not the steel that Marvel's fixed their issue.

That's my point. But it's going to be the one-two punch of Cap and Thunderbol. I know, but that's my point, though, with Star Wars, is that you have to have the same thing happen now with Star Wars. You've got to get. Roman Federer. You have anything to do with it? Well, they,

no, it's not going to necessarily. necessarily help but they they it looks like they're only gonna do one show per year now and so and or is the only show that's coming out next year and then a soka will be the only one after that so which I think is smart For them to do right now because they don't they have their heads up their rear ends So now let's say that's this a Roman Fidorek following up now I'm just adding things to not make this trash Just kidding you're all amazing thank you bro. We were always so supportive of the show and then Ed part two here after the Hobbs movie it'll be what four or five years he's talking about the um the fast and furious movie it'll be it's too long between the i i agree with mike that when it comes to because you're like oh wait and then you got to catch up again because you might have just

forgotten about what the hell's happening and like oh that's that's really tough and that was one of like i'll bring up this is a tv show i'll bring up like sopranos right i did a rewatch of the of the entire series of the sopranos when many saints came out and i was shocked and not shocked at the same time how much i mean i really loved it so much watching it the rewatch and i remember being disappointed in some of those episodes that i was not disappointed on the rewatch because it was the length of time that it took in between like season three and season four is like a year and a half two years i hadn't caught up on everything i'd forgotten certain things and then it was like because it all flowed together flowed together once it was you know there but it's like it's

that weight of like and that was during a time when you didn't have as much stuff to watch so yeah it's uh i agree with what mike was saying there haskell are you watching wise guy so the answer is i'm going i started it um and i'm going to robert eyler was the first one who told me about it when he was on the show and he told me how great it was and that they have like did you see the episode one already no it's my next okay all right all right they'll have to talk about that much of a binge it's short take two episodes, right? Yeah. Haskell 420.

Roxy, check out the anonymous on Peacock. It's like Big Brother, but the house guest talks smack about each other anonymously behind a screen. That sounds up your alley. Good rat. Trash TV. Mike Joyce, I was surprised to hear the reason why Roxy hates Man of Steel on an OSA. What's OSA again?

Only stupid answers. That's T. Oh, okay, right. Paw Kent died because he and Clark believed the world wasn't ready for someone like him, right? That was my interpretation. So I'm assuming one of the reasons you didn't like the way that, I don't like the way Pock Kent died either in that one. I like that movie a lot, but I don't like how they did that.

And then Mike, I'm sure, is going to be able to at least chime in on this one. Well, Mike's heard my take on this for so long. I didn't like Man of Steel, and Superman was not my Superman. Not my Superman. Because to me, the lesson is supposed to be there was nothing Superman can do about this.

That's what happens when you can be as super as you want, but heart attacks happen death happens there's things that you cannot control so the dog situation just drives me nuts to this effing moment i it ruined the entire movie for me because i think that is so egregious that this lesson was like the world isn't ready for you so be chill and he's like okay i won't go save him because he told me the world's not ready for me drives me like up the wall bananas it's just so not superman well the reason that it got me is because I liked in the idea that you assume man had all this power that he can beat nature he just couldn't beat it I mean that's what I'm saying yeah yeah he just couldn't beat it that that was that

was I agree but like that but the movie itself I actually really enjoyed but Mike you you're scrunching up your face how do you feel yeah I just of course disagree um but I think the problem why it doesn't work for a lot of people too is I think they should not have used cavil in that scene because it's supposed to be he's supposed to be like 16 or 17 right if they would have used the younger kid in that scene where he's not as powerful he's not you know I think it just makes a strong choice and again it everything that happened before informs it like people who don't think pa kentz should say well if you should should I not say real people is like no sometimes you might have to like if you were brought up if superman landed in this world today they would absolutely

tell them to not like they might say like you can't help this government will take you apart and you'll be half the world will hate you and half the world will think you're a savior and just you got to be you can't do this man you got to live your life for yourself so i i think what would have fixed that is make him younger yeah that's not about 14 or 15 or wouldn't have fixed it at all for me the most unrelatable thing on the planet for anybody with a dead parent is i could save my dead parent right now or i could save myself piss off piss off with that i just get every time i watch and I'm just like, I don't like you.

Like, don't do what you're doing. Well, you'll like this, Roxy. We're at 41. Not trash. I mean, legends. That feels like in the next 19 minutes, don't you think we should be able to? I'm going to text Roca. I'm going to say they got close.

Steve, Catanillo again. Thank you, Steve. I love Mexican food, having a burrito. I want one. I got some at home. I love burritos. Going back into the city tonight. I'm going to see Transformers 1.

So we'll see how that one turns out. Epsilon Audio. When it comes to the Harry Potter series, is there enough about Voldemort in the books that wasn't in the movie to make him interesting again? I think so. I think that there's a lot of detail in those books that they left out. Do you guys think, well, I won't ask Mike because he doesn't want to see it anyway.

But Roxy, do you think there's enough detail for Voldemort? Yes. Okay. Yeah, I think there is. He would not be the character that I would be having, like, second thoughts about. I think definitely. Voldemort's like one of the creepiest, scariest ever. Yeah, it's going to be

pretty creepy. They've got to get somebody really good to play that role. Carlton Rudder, what's up, Carlton? London Calling. James O. Jones is a true legend, iconic voice from my youth first live show with Roxy, looking lovely as ever. Mike's no slouch either. Yeah, there you go. Flouch.

Mike's looking spelt, as Roxy would say. Sveld. Sveld, whatever. Simon's section. Go, go, good job. in Jurassic Park so there will be a walrus is Tusk in the Jurassic world

coming together like Men in Black and 21 Jump Street also I was thinking about field dreams before I saw the news but that's my problem with I think what they're going to do with Jurassic they don't learn these studios

instead of saying they're going to do the opposite of what I think that they should do they're going to do the go bigger go bigger go ridiculous go monsters go this you know what I mean they're going to go well we have to spend

all this money to do this we got Scarlet Johansson and we got Mahershali let's do this a really ridiculous thing now. More monsters, more craziness, more of this. And it's like, no. Make it a simple story.

Like you make it go back, do a simple story, a smaller story. That's what you should do. And they, I feel like all these IPs, these big IPs, do smaller movies with detailed stories and characters. That's what people want. They don't think that though. They treat the audiences like idiots. That's what they do.

I like the cast. Cast is good. Cast is good, but I'm just nervous. I'm nervous about it for sure. And then, feel the dreams is a lot of people bringing up also. Okay, let's see. Next one here.

And it's good to have Mike and Roxy back on the shows together for sure. It's good catching up. Bobo Baggins. I love this channel. Christian and Roxanne, I never miss an episode. I use a wheelchair, so movies are my escape. Seeing y'all's love for movies gives me so much sure. I feel like we'd be friends in real life.

Well, that's very kind of you, man. And I'm very glad that we're able to give you some laughs, and stuff too and Roxy and I've been doing this for a long time together. I mean, hell, man, as Mike said, I've been friends with Mike now for shoot, 25 plus years. So it's pretty nuts. That's crazy. Pretty crazy.

Almost 30. Yeah, I met you what, 90, 90, no, 96. Yeah, 97. 97. It was 97. That's when I met you, yeah. Okay, so. 25 years.

And then Roka probably knew a little before you. I knew Roka in 95, 96. Which is funny because you and I, even though we ran in the same circles, we were also in the theater program, too, which I don't know if I ever saw you there. No, I don't. I never knew. Which is hilarious. You weren't in the theater program? I was.

You were, but we just never ran into it. All I remember this. That was the best, and I thought you didn't remember that. You do remember it? Okay, because that was the best. Oregon, Luna Love Good is. What? I don't know what that is.

I don't know. Luna Love. Well, there's just a big inside joke that you're not going to explain. Oh, this one? It's two frat guys being frat guys. That's what that is. Yeah, that was, it was, it was, I'll just tell you it was at Marty Grau. That's all I'll tell you.

Michael. Mr. Oh, there were boobies, not balls. I understand. Balls would be this. These are boobies. You doing this for balls? Were you dealing with an elephant?

It's like balls like, Mr. I crap and shits. I just wanted to say hi to Roxy and Mike. I hope you'll have a great week. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Hi back.

Very kind of you. All right, let's see. Next one, as we are, thank you, by the way, for everybody who's putting in these questions. And, you know, I'm glad that we had an opportunity to get everybody on the show again. This will be at least Tuesday and Wednesday. So you'll see Roxy every Tuesday. Mike's Tuesdays and Wednesdays bouncing back and forth. Mike, is that a, Mike, is that a butt for behind you?

Oh, yeah, is it? Do you know that one? Come on now. Come on now. I got somebody, Roxy got somebody on Instagram with that. Jesus. Who'd you get with that? Man, this is my friend, Justice Zero.

Listen, I've been trying to get steps abroad for, we have one famous World Girls episode famous. We have one World Girl episode where I melt down because I guess Doreen and stuff had never heard it. We were trying to build dominoes. We had been there for 18 hours. Our backs were aching. We were doing this massive domino set. And I said, can you hand me the butt for? And they just wouldn't say what's a butt for.

And they'd never heard the joke. And they kept saying, nobody knows what you're talking about. Say it in different words. and I just started crying and now the down into a corner. I have to watch that. I was crying saying, nobody's listening to me, giving me the buff voice.

hilarious. Joey Pedrus, do you think we're going to get any other shows in the Reeves Batman universe, or is this just the penguin? Mike, what do you think about that? No.

This is it? This is it. I think if Gunn was not redoing everything and making his own thing, we'd get a lot more. Okay, because this was part. So you think this was part of, the deal already and they said just go with this one

but yeah I think that's why they canceled the arcome that's why there was going to be like a gcPD version like they had announced or we're talking about three or four different ones and the penguin was the one they went with I think I think we're going to get this I think we'll get Batman 2 I think we'll get a second season of penguin and then we'll get the third film and that'll wrap it up

okay and then you think we're only getting two seasons of penguin period yep and then two more movies and that's it interesting three movies for the Batman two seasons for penguin yep I think that's it Anthony Colson No Cat one in anything. No. Anthony Colston,

$199.9, thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Derek coming in hot, I'll die on that hill with Mike. Only thing I'll say different is that a Joker movie, not a Batman movie. It is. Yeah, you're not right, you're not wrong, buddy. Only movies called The Dark Night. Well, it's

only you two. It should be about the dark night. You guys are the only two in that arm. You're the only two in that army. Patty Boy, what's Roxy? Mike's take on Beetleju's Beatleger's. Do you guys see it yet? No. I haven't seen yet. Oh, okay. I'm so excited.

to see it. I can't believe I haven't seen it. I'm surprised. I will see it. I'm super I'm not a I like the first one but I'm not like these people that love it and I can't wait. But I'm excited to see Tim Burton kind of return to form. So yeah. Here we go. Ryan Nielsen. The Batmobile gets hit by an RPG crashes and then into a bat pot and you have that at three. They blew up a hospital, Mike. A hospital. I think my line read was pretty good there, Rocks. Really good. That's not just like Ryan. Yeah.

What'd you think? Is no response to that, Mike? Yeah, there's a lot of great, it's a great movie. It is a great, I'd say it's one of the best, 100 best films of all time. It's just not a great Batman movie. All right, fair enough. Nathan Stowe.

Used to call my mom, Madame Hatch Heap from Fragal Rock. Technically, I'm a trash person, Roxy. I mean, not anymore. I love Fragal Rock as a kid. Roxy, you want me to give me an update? On Fragal Rock? No, on the questions. Oh, on the question.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 43. So we have two left to tie, three left to beat. Yep. PLD project. Wait, if we don't get there. I don't know. I don't know if PLD counts.

Is PLD count? I guess he does. He could have sent a question for Roka. I guess, no, because this money goes back in his pocket anyway. I got to pay him. So, come on. That's true. That's a trash cake.

That's fair. Of course it counts. Just because we can't let Roxy lose to Roca is what he wrote. That's what I'm saying. That's fair. Steph Dugastini, aka the Marvel Man. This is for Roxy

to reach or beat Roka's number. I know if Mike's not even incorporated in this. They don't care about me. Because Mike is chill. And Mike wasn't Mike, you guys are all trashed. You know what competitive Mike is an awful trash. You suck.

Mike and Roka together. I mean, the battles that those two had at the Shmoney are legendary. So Simon section, Hey, Roxy. Chicken and beer, chicken and beer. Chicken and beer. That's a old.

That's clearly, but Mike's face says he's never watched an episode of Clyder Live, I don't blame him. All right, so here's the... I watch some of those episodes. Good for you. They were amazing.

I didn't. Michael Merkel. Mike, I love listening to your thoughts on DC movies and news. What would your top five DC movies be of all time? Wow, look at that. Mike's top five DC movies of all time. All right, I'll go off the top of my head. Mark Knight.

89 Batman. Batman begins. Is this in order? No, just I'm throwing them out there. So 89 Batman, Batman begins. Zach Snyder's Justice League. Oh, I got to give. So how many is that?

Three? That's three, yeah. Um, Suicide Squad. Aquaman? Okay. Aquaman and the top. Oh, Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman.

Okay. Wonder Woman and then Aquaman. In the top five. Yeah, I love that Aquaman. I think because I wasn't expecting anything and it just, I have such a fun time when I watch that movie. Such a fun time. But I could probably put Patterson's Batman versus Aquaman in there.

Wow. Okay. well I don't agree with any of that but but I but hey that was such a weird take my dude he's been doing look he's the king of it he's like you can't you can't tell me that Mike what I love I'm gonna say I love I this is why I love having you on the show man movies I do I think Christopher Reeve to me is is iconic but I have not had a Superman film where I've gone that Superman to me like made me love the character so I'm really hoping everything I've seen so far with Superman with corn sweat Rachel Brosnahan like every single the casting of Jimmy Olson like I'm like this movie could be the one that makes me go

this is superman and no TDK trilogy no he doesn't put that guyman begins that is it oh you said about he did oh yeah I'm gonna follow this up Mike so Ronnie be good DC you Batman and Wonder Woman dream casting got anybody in there there's been two people I don't know these actors I'm I'll put the picture and I'll throw it up to you and you can put it in a comment with someone There's two actors. I don't know who they are for Bruce Wayne that are perfect to me that these people keep showing like they're television.

I think maybe they might be television actors, but they're like their early 40s, but they seem great. Wonder Woman? I, guys, I'm, unknown. Let me tell you this. I'm like with Gallagher Doe.

Like I want an unknown. I want to me and I'll say, this is a hill I'll die, and I don't think you need a big name for Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman. Get it. a working actor that's you know but has their chops and make that let like look at huge jackman calgadote was not a was it was not super well known no i just saying yeah i'm saying and now

she's iconic but like look at hugh jackman i'm with you no one knew who he was he is now same page same page like so you the studios i know they think they got to sell it they do their algorithms and this doesn't track with this like just get an actor that looks apart is a good actor and the character will be enough and they'll make it their own. Well, thank you for that. Thank you to haunt an autumn for that super chat. And then PLD, coming back in. Any interest in riffraff?

Ed Harris and Bill Murray is Crime Brothers. Lewis Pullman, Pete Davidson, Jennifer Coolidge, Gabriel Union, looks fun. Is that a TV showbox? I don't know. But if it's Jennifer Coolidge, then I'm definitely going to be watching it. Riffraff, huh? Yeah, check that out. I wonder where it's going to air.

Oh, no, it's a movie. Oh, it's a movie. That's why I don't know it. There you go. Well, and then... I guess it just premiered at TIF, which is why. Okay. Thank you, Peel. The nerds engage puts in a super chat there.

And then Nick Alexander, clarification. Aaron versus Roxy, scaring Tara. I guess that was the scare thing. Is that what that is? I understand. I didn't see a video they put out, but I obviously it's my thing. Oh, I saw it. They were watching, like, beetle, no, were they not Beetlejuice.

They were watching something together. Oh, it was, predator so long story short my number one thing that I do is I say purge to Tara and I put a pillow in her face and she freaks out it's like a thing that we do because we watch the purge franchise and she's easily scarable but Aaron was like I scared her first so I'm the scare person whatever my choice what does Roxy think of the Patriots this season could knock me out of my freaking pool. I hate them more than I did before. I mean, obviously, I don't feel good about the Patriots this season.

However, I was shocked on Sunday. Yeah, me too. I was shocked on Sunday. So I don't know what to make of that. But no, I think that it's going to be several years before I can really talk about the Patriots. Okay. Next one here. Roman Fedorak. Agree with Mike and the Batman begins is my favorite of the trilogy. Ellis feels the same way about that. There's a lot of people that think Batman that Batman begins is a first.

A lot of people think that. A hundred percent. It's amazing. Yeah. Okay, so let's want to make sure that I have everything here. To agree with mine, I think, oh, shoot, I think we hit it all. And I think we hit all of them. And Roxy, we're at 49.

You did it. You did it? 49. Roxy. You'd like to cry? I'd like to thank all the trash people. for calling them trash. I mean, yeah, but you know, you know, this isn't going to end.

You know Roka now is Roka's going to, Roker's probably going to show these people's houses. Roker's going to go through every person to see if they did it twice, what time. And Steph's on tomorrow. Steph's on tomorrow. And then we got up. The D1 athlete who randomly is not very competitive with things like this, but it's very competitive in life.

And it's true. And then we got Koi and Winston on Friday, which will be a good show. It's, I mean, I say, you, Roxie, you excited to be live. with me again? Yeah, I really am. I love live. I love the energy of live. And like I said, we'll see which one of us gets canceled first. Mike, probably be you. So where can I find you? At Mike Kellenowski. Roxy Stryor. How about yourself? Everywhere at Roxy Stryor, be on the lookout for Krust, the movie coming to a theater near you.

And maybe you can go to the grant tonight if you reach out. All right. Thank you guys for joining us here today on the show. I appreciate it, appreciate all of you for being here and for everybody, you know, jokes aside here with the contest and everything, too. Thank you for supporting the show, supporting the channel, being so encouraging when it comes to doing these things live that we're doing and being excited for it because I'm excited to be able to experience this again with Roxy, with Mike, and to re-team everybody up and to do new things, create new moments. We're going to be doing some more interviews and all that. as I mentioned, I have my out of the theater reaction for Transformers 1 coming out tonight. I probably have a non-spoiler of, what the hell is, Speak No Evil. So that one will be coming out pretty soon.

I have my movie reactions that I've been doing with first one with Borderlands with Matt Sarah is up right now. I did trap with my wife. That comes out on Friday. So check that out. So for myself, Mike and Roxy, it is Christian Harle. show thank you for being here see you later