The Kristian Harloff Show - RUMOR: Is James Gunn Leaving DC?!

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Big shake-ups might be coming to the superhero world. In today's episode, Kristian Harloff breaks down the latest rumors that James Gunn could be out at DC following the reported Warner Bros. sale, plus a look at what's happening across Hollywood. Topics include: James Gunn Out At DC With Warner Bros. Sale (Exclusive) – Is DC Studios facing another reboot? Warner Bros. Rejects Paramount Takeover Bid – What does this mean for the future of WBD? "X-Men" Targets May 2028 Release – Marvel's mutants might finally be coming to the MCU! New Details On Marvel's 2026 TV Slate – What shows are coming to Disney+ next? "TRON: Ares" De-Rezzed At Box Office – What went wrong with Disney's latest sci-fi sequel? Kristian gives his full thoughts on the latest DC, Marvel, and movie industry news, and what these developments could mean for fans. #JamesGunn #DCU #WarnerBros #MCU #XMen #Marvel #TronAres #TheKristianHarloffShow #MovieNews #ComicBookMovies SPONSORS: NUTRAFOL:  See thicker, stronger, faster-growing hair with less shedding in just 3-6 months with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you go to https://www.Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code KRISTIAN. UPSIDE: Upside has given back $1 Billion dollars to its users. To find out how much you could earn, Download the FREE Upside App and use promo code KRISTIAN to get an extra 25 cents back for every gallon on your first tank of gas.  STRAWBERRY.ME: Head to https://www.Strawberry.me/KRISTIAN to claim a special offer and get started. Stop settling. Start building the career you actually want! 

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Is it true? Is it false? Is it bullshit? Is it accurate? That's what you do when there's stories out there that are circulating. Warner Bros. apparently said, no, no. It's a paramount. The takeover bit.

So is this story, again, going to be moot? We got a big box office here. Dewey, is it really big? I don't know, but it sounds better. Tron is number one. And then Wonder Man had a trailer. Do we care? Do you care?

We shall see. So let's get into it, everybody. It's myself, John Roker, here on the channel today, Christian Arloff show. Let's do it. Welcome back, everybody, to the show here today. It's myself and... Where to go? Hold on.

There he is. John Roker. Perfect. I got a note that I needed to add your shot. I did it. Perfect. Welcome back to the show, John Roker. How was your weekend? It was good. It was busy.

The Lady Outlaw is finally done with COVID. So we celebrated a little bit last night. But yeah, a lot of NFL watching, a lot of movie watching. But then, you know, ready to jump back on and talk about stuff today for sure with you, man. So, yeah, happy to best. Yeah, I'm glad you're back. The last two weeks have been just hectic for me in general. There was personal stuff going on.

Again, nothing, nothing serious. But personal stuff that was going on that I had to take. There was like days I had to step back. I was in the city four days last week, which is, again, great. But it takes a lot of time. We had a great interview with two of the stars from K-pop Demon Hunters, which will be a, that'll essentially be Wednesday's episode. And it was awesome.

And it was a really good conversation. I got some great information, good chat in general. And I went to New York Comic Con on, well, Friday. was when I was walking around. And it's so fun. I met some wonderful people that are supporters of the channel and everything, too. But I was walking around and I'm like, and I really was there not only to say hello to some people when people are coming up who watch a channel and supporters, and it's always very nice. I was there to see I saw Koi.

I saw Perry. I saw Gray Drake. I saw Attack Peter. And that was nice. That was really. It's so funny because I'm walking around the floor. And I'm just a little bit detached from that now. I'm doing it every year at San Diego for so long.

It was really nice. It's a, it's a wonderfully put on Comic-Con. And I will tell you this. And this is something I would talk about on stage. And there's something I would talk about on a podcast. Okay. Easily,

the best smelling Comic-Con I've ever gone to. Well, that's what happens when you have it in five different buildings. You spread out the smell. It's huge. That place is huge. No, and I'll tell you what, it's not, because I was wondering, I was like, when is the, when is the con smell going to hit me? Because it always does.

Never did. You know why? Because they bombard it with, like, popcorn and everything to it. Like, the whole place smells like food. And I was like, this is very smart. Even if it stinks like shit in here, I can't tell because they bombard you with all this food smells. And I was like, that is so smart because I'm walking around. I'm like, because a lot of times your eyebrows are melting off your face from some of the, the, the, the, the odor going.

on some of these things. But it was, I couldn't believe it. It was, it was, I made it clear to everyone that I was like, smells great in here. It was how it's going on? Well, isn't that where they do sporting events? So maybe they're conditioned, you know, to understand that people don't want to be smelling other people's funk. So they purposely make it so that you're smelling the food more than anything else. So yeah, it was good. It's a very well put on, um, yeah. It really, years ago when I went one time it is you're right it really is it's spread out really nice the people are having a good time it's a nice vibe and nice energy um I just was like okay I'm gonna see the people I'm here I'm here to see I'm gonna walk around look take it in and then I'm gonna go home I only

went one day uh that was that was enough for me that was you see Horowitz and he was host I saw I did interviewing yeah I did I saw he he's actually he was the one who got me my my my tickets um so I did did I saw him actually on when was that Wednesday is one I went to pick up my I went out. I saw Tech Peter. I saw Josh. I hung out with Josh for a little bit. And then we were talking, he told me he had the Sigourney Weaver panel he was doing. Which he got an exclusive out of that. He got the whole thing about Ripley. Yeah. Potentially coming back, which I thought was great.

Yeah, no, they all, it was, it was great to see everybody. It was nice. It was nice in general. So, yeah. Yeah. Anyway. Kind of low key, though, right? Like, there was a couple of things that blew up out of Comic-com, but not much. Not much kind of blew up out of New York Comic-Con, but it was very low-key, man. These big ones are starting to become just kind of like fun events, but not necessarily places to break massive news anymore like they used to. No, because the internet just overpowers everything. There's just more that you can accomplish.

But I think that the way that they were doing it in the way they were spreading out their projects, that this one was smarter than the way they do it at Sandy. Anyway. So, there was news that was popping over the weekend. And I start with this as I saw someone in the comments say it. And I don't disagree with them. But it's like, you know, you talk about things that are coming up, the potential of I always, this is my favorite.

There was a potential of Robert Danny Jr. being cast as Dr. Doom a while before it came out. There was rumors about it. So we covered it. And they're like, why are you covering this rumor? It's a rumor. Why would you cover? It's like, because what happens if it actually turns true and its potential? and that's what you do on these shows

that we've been doing for years. So this next story to me, and you might have a very different perspective, I haven't talked about this at all. This is one of those stories. I don't know how true it is. I don't understand necessarily why it would be true, but nonetheless, the rumors are out there,

so we're going to discuss. And that rumor, of course, is the fact that James Gunn, they say, they're saying, this isn't even a question mark. This is, they're going straight up with James Gunn, out at DC. This is Cosmic Book News. Again, take it with a grand assault. But Matt McLaugh, says, with Superman reportedly bombing financially and with peacemaker season two flopping with fans, I reached out to my insiders about the state of the DCU under James Gunn. As short of it is that

James Gunn will be out as head of DCU with the WBD sale. I'm told if David Ellison of Skydance Paramount buys WBD that Mike DeLucah will be in charge at DC. and do a completely new start. This is now. Gunn recently said he is doing whatever he wants with DC. That's not an odd to me as if you're building a new universe, you would want to be successful with the fans. That's not happening as both Creature Commandos and Peacemaker failed to chart on Nielsen. They don't have a big audience,

and Gunn's claims that Peacemaker Season 2 was meant to be a sequel to his Superman movie was pure BS. Superman also failed to resonate with international fans. Its box office came in under Zach Snyder's Man of Steel by a large margin. Gunn's approach to the DCU has been all about divisive messaging. It's splitting the fan base. I am of the opinion that Gunn is doing whatever he wants with DC because his days are numbered and he knows it. So he's getting himself, all his friends and his wife, big paychecks before WBD sells. That means when a sale goes through, James Gun is out.

So I reached out to my Hollywood insiders and this is what I was told. Recently saw the big news that Mike DeLuca, Pam Abdi, re-signed with Warner Brothers in Deadlines report, they basically says because of the sale of Warner Brothers Discovery, David Ellison is looking to purchase WBD. So WBD CEO David Zazlov is putting people in place that Ellison wants. That means Ellison wants to Luca and Abdi in charge of the WB films. You'll notice that Gunn has pivoted from his plan, gods and monster storyline, into what he calls his Superman family saga.

The Superman family is all Gunn. The gods and monster storyline is likely ditched because Gunn knows he can only get a select amount of movies out before the sale. I've also been told the reason why DCU projects have been stalling is because of guns interference. Filmmakers want their own vision and not guns. I'm told that most visionary directors in Hollywood are staying away from not only DC, but Marvel and Star Wars because life is too short and everyone is looking for original properties. I told that Zach Snyder is happy doing his original stuff, but would only return to DC for one last movie, an adaptation of the Dark Night Turns. I'm told that Warner Brothers gets sold.

Whoever buys it wants it. wants a completely new start. While it has been reported that Sundance is eyeing to purchase WBD until Universal is still in the mix, I know we've been done doing that for years. What I am told if David Ellison buys Warner Brothers Discovery is that James Gunn will be out. David Ellison's father billionaire David Ellison is close to President Trump. So Peacemaker isn't getting a season three and Gunn lied about a family-friendly approach to D.C. told that nobody in the building knows his status except for Gunn,

but his actions speak as to what might happen. Again, it's obvious and Gunn has said himself he's doing whatever he wants with DC. It's because with the sale, his DCU will be dead. We'll be dead. Back to David Ellison, I'm told that Mike DeLuca will take over. Recall how my insiders told you about the real ending of the flash, which is something Gunn completely changed. The Luca wanted to bring back Snyder's DCEU,

which would have in part led to the return of Henry Campbell as Superman and the return of Ben Affleck as Batman with Batman multiverse happening, all got scrapped when Gunn took over. I am of the opinion that Gunn knew about the eventual sale and that Zazlov handed him over the reins and given the ability to do whatever he wants before the sale, they just wanted DC content out there to make the sale look better. Back to Duluca in DC, I'm told he won't be bringing back

the Staniverse as everyone has moved on. He'll be starting a new DC universe under Ellison Skydance. Guess we'll be back, bring back truth, justice to American way. you also know guns history with conservatives was also likely complaint explains guns dc u agenda he's getting it all out before the sale all right there's there's there's more to it but i think that's so it's good for you um okay first of all are you matt mcgloin i am not matt mcgloin nor would i want to be matt mcgloin i don't know i don't yeah i've followed him before i've not followed him but i've read his stuff before he's very very to the right okay he cries about woke

shit all the time. So you got to factor that into this, quote unquote, exclusive. Doesn't mean he doesn't have insiders, though. I'm not saying that. I know, I know you're not. I know you're not. I know you're not. He's gone after gun. He's, you know, said 28, day, whatever, but 20 years later, has it gone woke or last time has gone too true? Drew, eat shit. It's like, why are we covering it? Because if it's true,

we're talking about it now. Let me give my opinion. I don't think that this is true. Yeah, right. Why am I covering? it because what the fuck if it is stop it drew stop it drew i is the same as i just gave the doctor drew do example right because if the story turns out to be true we're saying what if and that's the whole point right that's why drew but are you brand new to this drew come on but i'll shit together what you're saying though aside from matt's politics or whatever like there is i think something to discuss here because there's something we brought up on the hot mic before because jeff's not as politically aware as I am about this stuff.

And so when I heard Ellison was sniffing around WB, I was like, this is dangerous because this guy wants to push a certain narrative. He wants to buy Paramount, wants to buy WB, which owns CNN and pushes narrative. So I said to Jeff on the hot mic a few, a couple weeks ago when it first broke, because it broke during our show. Right. I said to him, I wonder if James Gunn will even survive if Ellison takes over WB and we're starting all the hell over again because James clearly has, you know, a certain

point of view. who said for this season is very clear, you know, the comment that at a bio said, you know, America isn't that different from a Nazi state. Like, those are comments. And so what Matt's saying in his article carries weight that James is going to do what he wants to do. And maybe it's because he knows once the sale is done, he's done. So he's going to do whatever he wants to do until then.

It's possible. The idea of the fact that Duluca and Abdi reupped and that could lead to the fact that they want them to take over and they're being picked by Ellison to take over. Ellison gets that bid through, that makes a lot of sense to me as well. When you re-up those two, I don't, Jeff scoffed at this on Thursday. He was like, well, why, why does it matter? Why are you even thinking Reeves first? I didn't even think about Matt Reeves.

I go, yeah, I know you didn't, Jeff, because you don't think about the superhero shit the way I do. And the thing is Matt Reeves. I think this is a vote of confidence on the Matt Reeves approach to D.C. If you keep Abdonne and Delucah because he reports to them, not James Gunn. People need to really clarify it in their mind. So this article feels like there are some elements of truth to it down the road. Because when you come in, you know this as a sports guy, Christian. If you're a general manager, you don't want to be handed the coach.

If you're coming in as a new general manager, you want to pick your coach. So it may be some moves being done in the background to put this together because Zazlob and Ellison are both, you know, buddies and they're big Trump people. So I wouldn't be surprised if they're working stuff out. Well, that's the point. And as far as why you would even discuss this, because if it does go through this sale and it is indeed, okay, here's here's the look at Abdi, who at one point, we were saying they are the ones that are going to be out. And now no one's saying that because they have hit after hit after hit after hit. Right.

They're crushing it right now. They're in the position right now that this would make sense. It was like, okay, look, I'm going to buy this. We don't like what Gun's doing. We don't like his messages. We don't like all that stuff. In the same way, ironically, and when Gun was. taking over where they were like, well, we don't want to do the Snyder stuff.

We don't want to do the Cabell stuff. We don't want to continue that. So we're going to say goodbye to that. Yeah. If you're buying something and you're not a fan of what guns doing, it is absolutely realistic that they get, and that whole report of, look, let's add some value to it. Hopefully Superman makes some money on it. And then it adds value when we sell it.

Of course, that all makes sense. Now, the question is, though, how much of it is truthful. And they're like, no, no, no, we want to continue on what they're doing. We bought it because we do like that. Like I, you guys talked about it on Thursday, you and staff, does it look like it actually lost money or I don't really know the story? Every other thing I hear, it made money, it lost money. It made money.

What's the real story? I think it did. I think it made money, but it didn't make money to the numbers that it should have. Sure. And I didn't lose money, right? It didn't lose money. No. because of the ancillary stuff and all that stuff you get,

plus the goodwill with DC with the fans. Although after Peacemaker's Season 2 finale, I don't know how long that goodwill is going on. Is it bad? Yeah, I mean, for me, it was not good. I know there are a lot of people who are trying to claim that it was good, but there's a lot of people who don't like it. And it's the lowest rated episode of the season already.

But yeah, so to me, this is an interesting position that Gunn finds himself in. And I think Matt takes some actual facts and puts it through his filter and comes out the other side with this is a way you can look at it in that he hasn't quite achieved the numbers and the overall public response that you would like yet. But I think he's achieved a certain amount, maybe not all the way. So I think it would be fascinating to say, I think it's great that we're not going to get him for another movie. Like it's not till man of tomorrow. We're going to get play face. We're going to get a supergirl. We're going to get lanterns.

All of that, I think will. wash the James Gunness out of people's mind for a little bit, and then boom, we're into Man of Tomorrow and see where we're at. But by that time, where's it's going to be in the sale? Where's it going to be the sale? They already launched a bid,

Christian, this quickly. I know. I would say this, dude, here's the one thing I would say, because I do, my personal opinion is I think you let it,

you let it go for a little bit and you don't, you don't dismantle it and start over again. I just think, God, yeah. It's, you're really going to crush some of the momentum that you have. It's like,

okay, we just started this. We have these stories, what we want to tell, and we're not really even giving it any chance, and we're just going to reset again. And people are going to go, oh, my God, now I've got to, now I have another Superman. It's exhausting. It's exhausting. So I don't think that's the way to go.

I think what you do, if you do sell it, you bring James Gunn in, you go, you got to tune down the gunisms of it all. You got, it can't, in the same way that has become Faloni Star Wars, it can't become James Guns, D.C. It just can't. I know he runs it. But I mean like everything feels like James Gunned everywhere. It's like that's exhausting too. Well, I think here, a movie there, a show there, okay. But an entire thing, it's like, no, it's got to feel like Batman.

It's got to feel like Superman. It's got to feel like Wonder Woman. It doesn't feel like this is James Guns Batman. James Guns Superman. It's like that's why I think people, if it's true, pushing back would make sense to me. Yeah. And I think you're so on point with this question because like, Figey, it doesn't come out and say this is Kevin Figey's Black Panther or Kevin Fagie's Avengers.

Like, but we know Faggy is the guy who is in charge of these projects and overseeing the big projects. It's kind of understood. But the fact that he doesn't have to make it really clear that it's him, I think this is an essential thing and the difference from him and Gunn wants you to know that it's him. He likes the stroke. He enjoys the stroke. He's in on his own stroke.

And so I understand that. But with that comes the criticism. And you have to take it on the chin. What he did over the weekend with us, well, you know, Peter Saffron's the one who out of the final few scenes of that. Like that kind of stuff, no, bro. No, you don't get to blame the defense if you lose the game. The defense and the-

What did he say? He said he had Safran added a peacemaker stuff? He added the stuff at the end with peacemaker. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I don't see this episode three. Yeah.

So, I mean, this kind of stuff. And you're right. It's all about him and that becomes an issue. But here's the other side of it. And I think this is important to throw out there as well, because it's not just from the studio side. It may be that James doesn't want to work for Ellis. It may be the James steps down to himself.

That's a point. You know what? You're not going to let me do the thing I want to do in the attitude and the political mindset that I have about it in my politics and my stuff. Then I don't want to work for you. And I'm going to step down and move away. That's very possible. Well, it also depends on contracts and stuff too.

I wish he could leave his contract, absolutely 100%. But that's a great point. It's, you know, those conversations at one point with Zazlov have to, whether you believe this report or not of whether or not he's on the outs. you have to separate and go, okay, did he, does he know about the potential sale? What could that mean? And would he then say, okay, we have new bosses now. And the boss, because that's, that's regardless of truth or not truth, that is a truth.

If you get new bosses, the new bosses might not be under the same kind of guidelines that Zazlov was given you. You could say, like, that's when he was in charge. Right. We're in charge now. And we actually want you to do this. Right. your boss, who you had before,

we've all had bosses. Like, oh, man, I wish so-and-so is still the boss because he let me do my shit. I was able to do that. Now, these guys are on me and they make me do this now. It's not as fun. It's a great point. It's a great point. Very possible. Yeah, I can't remove the autonomy or the agency that God has to do what he wants to do

in a situation. You know, I take Matt's points about, you know, his insight. I don't know Matt's sources, so, you know, I have to respect that because people don't know my sources. What are your sources? Yeah, exactly. I was going to say that people don't know my source. So you have to respect that. Yeah, what are they saying? What are your sources saying?

Well, listen, the Abdi and DeLuca stuff, from what I've heard from the couple of people that reached out to me over the weekend was like, that's essentially Zazlov saying that he has chosen a side here. And yes, the gun, he wants to keep that going and gun doing what he's doing. But the fact that he's re-uped Abdi and DeLuca, yes, he said, you know, oh, I'm rewarding them. But remember, he was interviewing replacements for them in January. John, how many times have you and I said these words? Yes. Money talks. Bullshit walks.

Exactly. What have you done for me lately? They are delivering. We were very critical of them. I was very critical of them. They told me, take this sock and put it in your mouth, asshole, and watch what we do. And I, okay, your numbers are proving it to me. I have to give you props.

I got to give you props. Like, you keep delivering. you are winning. Winning, you are winning. Like you said before, gun, maybe they didn't lose money. He didn't do what they did. Right.

So, you know, if you're, if you're a Zazov, you go, look, I'm going with the team right now because they aren't, because here's the difference of what we were just talking about. Yeah. I wouldn't, unless I read about it, I would have no idea what the Luca and Abdi were involved in. I know everything.

he's involved guns in when he's when I'm like oh that's a gun joke that's a gun joke oh that seems like that's in the gun universe and it's like wait you're making james gun movies now even if people like well he's not directing this he's not yeah but that's the whole point is that how involved is he getting and because he's going away from the gods and monsters of it all and making it more about the superman thing is he telling people well we're gonna we want to make it all feel like it's part of this thing so add this add this I don't want to add this I don't want to do that You can't have two competing attitudes, right? Like you and I look at Star, we've talked about Star Wars.

And like, you know, Star Wars, I've finally kind of come around where you're at that Star Wars is pretty much dead now. It's not dead, but it's not, it's not, it's not one of the, it's not America's pastime anymore. Fair point. Fair point. Right. I guess that's what I'm trying to get at. It's in trouble. It's in trouble. Right.

If you have something like and or come out and it is massive and respected and awards and people are on. And then you see something like, you know, the acolyte or these other things come out and they're just not anywhere near the quality level or the kind of thing. And you just go, those are two competing visions for Star Wars. And you know one person in charge of Star Wars has nothing to do with Andor. There is a bristling that happens because you're taking attention away and people are comparing everything you're doing to Andor. People are going to compare everything Gunn does to Matt Reeves is the Batman. So if I have two competing points of views under the DC umbrella makes no sense eventually. So it just also shows you that there is no clear champion right now.

It is all up for grabs because we'll talk about the Wonder Man trailer also. Marvel has no idea what their brand is right now. DC clearly, we don't know what's happening with DC and Star Wars is a freaking mess. So out of the big three, like who's who's really, I mean, are looking forward to way more. I mean, horror right now is way more in the driver's seat than any of these three things. Horror thrillers and then Avatar probably have the biggest number and Wicked will have one of the will beat anything any comic book related stuff did. And we haven't seen a Star Wars movie since 2019, which is insanity. It's a very different landscape right now. And it really is that people are like you, you could feel it.

There are things that are creeping up that could be the next thing. But you just got to have the balls to do it. And it looks like Abdi and the Luca have the balls to do it right now, which is crazy. Artistically and possibly in the IP arena, you know, if the Batman part two comes out and it is, it makes a billion. And your Superman made 600 and your supergirl made maybe three or four. And your clear face makes maybe 100 or 200. I mean, there's a whole other conversation to be had. That's that.

I mean, maybe it's picking up steam obviously at home. and it broke all those numbers on HBO Max, maybe Man of Tomorrow comes out and it makes a billion. It's very popular, you know, but I think right now it's going to be, it's curious days over the next couple of years, what happens. You know,

the last thing we'll say about this to move on is that if the Luca does take over, what you will see is someone, if he does take over, you will, I do think it's going to be very confusing. And I think that it's like, it's going to be one of these things of this like, you,

you know, blue in the face here of smaller budget, and those things. But like, it's, you're going to ask the audience once again, hey, you know what we asked you to forget about the Snyderverse and go with James Gun? When I want you forget about James Gunn and look at all this new Superman. Look at this new Batman. Look at this new.

And you're like, oh, my God. It's just going to be, at the time you get there, he's going to have a lot to deal with. I do think that they're going to give him a shot to say, let's do this. Let's work together. Yes. I think let's work together. here. Gun's got to be able to say, okay,

what's your strategy then? I'll try to take that strategy and see. He's got to work with them. I think they're going to give that at least a year. Remember, his deal was only, what was the deal? Only was like three years or four years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Jeff is convinced that because they re-upped Abdi and DeLuca, that they're going to be

re-uping guns soon. He said that on the show. I don't know. I really don't. I'm not as confident as Jeff is about this. It's going to shut this article up real fast if it does. Right. if they re-up him and everything like that. But then again, what does a re-up matter if you're going to be sold? Right?

It's like it's a put lipstick on a pig. It's really not that big of a difference. It's a good point by someone in the audience too right now too. And I keep talking about if they get rid of gun and then they, you know, Duluca takes over. Great point. It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to get rid of corn sweat. It doesn't necessarily mean that.

Agreed. They should absolutely say, okay, you know what we're going to do. We're going to keep David, but we're going to go with this tone instead. We're going to continue. it on, we're going to continue the timeline that was set, he's just not in charge of it anymore. Right. And so those things still are. It's a very great point. It's a great point. It's that the cannon is still there so they don't have to go away from it and they can build off it. So we'll see. The other part of this, I think gun is, I think honestly, if you caught him at 3 a.m. after a few beers,

he would tell you how exhausting this is. I mean, it must be exhausting. I'm sure. Jump up from director to in charge of an entire universe. And I'm sure Abdi and DeLuk are like, oh, we've been here for a while. What do you think? Right. You know, and there might be friction there between them. And so that's what I think.

And so maybe if DeLuca takes over, maybe Gunn is happy about that and quietly moves down to a lower and goes like, look, I just want to make movies. I tried this. Wasn't my jam. They're letting me stay, be a part of D.C.

I'm going to keep going my Superman saga. But DeLuca will now be in charge of everything. That's also very possible as well. It could be interesting. That's why, yeah. That's why I'm actually I'm very glad that we covered this because it's a possibility. Sure.

because of the sale itself is also a very good possibility that sales fall through nothing happens whatsoever and gun is just going to be doing the same thing that he's doing so true the question now falls to me false to me and john nope it's false to me false to me and john false to me so what do you guys think put your thoughts in there let us know do you think guns out you think this is a bunch of uh as the kids say at france horseshit put your thoughts and let us know um look jobs, jobs, careers, and careers. And that's why I've been talking about strawberry. It's not me.

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there was seven that we're already put in there. So we're at 20 right now. Pretty good. 21. Yeah. 21. 21 questions. Can we get John to the big 100 before? It's 100.

I might have a scoop for you if we get to 100. How about that? Is that true? I like winning. All right. Is it a good scoop? It's up to you. It's a perspective, isn't it?

I don't know. Is it a good scoop? All right, fine. It's funny. What brought you to the Mar-in cast in the Marvel universe? Perfect. Good.

You really want to sync that whole thing. So, well, let's just, well, let's start there. Did you watch that Wonder Man trailer? I did. Yeah, I didn't do a reaction to it, but I watched it. And I like the trailer as an actor. That's the thing, Christian. I watched the trail.

I'm like, this is fun. This feels very familiar to me doing these cattle calls and whatever. So it was fun. I like the energy. I like bringing back Trevor Slattery. So to me, this feels like a fun series that has, it's probably going to have little to no weight to it at all. And I like the angle that it's a kid who saw his hero on TV,

on this big screen and now is getting a chance to play it. So, but I tell you this, this is a hell of a time. High wires are walking with this series to make it meta and confront the replacing a white actor with a black actor to play. Like this kind of stuff Marvel does not do well. So I'm a little concerned about the series itself.

You should be a lot more than a little. You should be a lot more of a little concerned. A lot of concern. But the trailer itself is a very well-made trailer. Yes. Yeah, it's a great actor. The cast is fantastic. I couldn't agree more that it looks like a fun show if it wasn't Marvel.

Marvel does not need this kind of show right now. I know that this show was greenlit way before and when they were green lighting everything. And they were like, oh, our shit doesn't stink. We can do whatever we want to do. And this will be fun to do this in the same way that she holds going to crush it. well shield didn't crush it didn't work and that ending didn't work um and i don't need i don't think marvel needs its own show to be poking fun at it right now marvel needs people to go oh shit we're back it's marvel this is not that show and it is also coming out in the dumping ground of tv shows in january

which they put a lot of shows and now are they going to all dumping in at what at one at um yeah all all at once. Yeah, all the shows are all. Right. episodes. So, look, I hope, because I like the cast, that this show does well, I hope that I can say to you after it, look, this is a fun watch. I still will probably say the same thing I say, no, I don't know what the hell the show really is about in how it is in the scheme of Marvel. I don't really understand it at all. Are we going to see any of these characters ever again? Is it almost like an elseworld's thing, even though it's not because Trevor's in it and these other things? Is it just kind of like, we made it? We want to show, respond. to the filmmakers to the actors and put it out in the same way that they did with Echo. But this is not a show at the moment that Marvel needs. It doesn't look like a bad show. It's just not a show that they need, right? Yeah, I mean, remember Ironheart? It was only just a few weeks ago.

And so you look at these things, you're absolutely like... It was a couple months ago, but still, yes, I hear what you're saying. These shows come out and... Right. But they were also, like, Marvel is just stuck with these shows because they started them like, during COVID, around COVID, and then they had delay, and then there were issues with the writer's strike. So there was a lot that went down with some of these shows,

but they're like stuck having to put them out. And so I think their way of doing it is we're going to do minimal amount of promotion, drop them all at once and move on, because what we want to get to is Spider-Man, the Avengers movies, and then get into this new phase with the movies and whatever. So we've got to put content out. We shot it. We cast all these people.

Maybe it'll be a hit. Who knows? And we'll see what it happens. It feels like, yeah. You're spot on. That's exactly what it is. We're not going to do the bat girl treatment to it. We're not going to, like, not air it.

We're going to air it. We're going to put it in January. The same way that we did, we're going to cross our fingers that we got to hit on our hands. And if we don't, then, like you said, Spider-Man's right around the corner. People will, it's not going to damage the brand. It's not going to damage it. Wow. What happened?

This never happens. No, no. You're freezing. Which is like, normally it's, normally it's Kalinowski and Steph. You never freeze. You're frozen today,

but it's okay. You're better now. I know, but yeah, but it won't damage. I don't think it'll make any kind of noise at all. I think it'll come out and that'll be that.

And it won't, and people won't necessarily be crazy about it. And then it'll move on. But, you know, I don't know what you do with the Wonder Man character, unless you're leading to West Coast Avengers with Wonder Man and,

and the white vision or gray vision character, that could be where you're headed. And then the rumors about Hawkeye coming back, Jeremy Renner. So maybe that you're headed that direction, but I don't know if West Coast Avengers gets people that excited to be honest. No, no.

It really was like when it was me. And that's the point of like how production works. And it's tough. When you're making things today, the landscape of the fans could change, dramatically by the time it comes out. When they greenlit that show, Marvel was still King shit.

And Marvel was still, you know, oh, we had Wanda Vision. We still, Falcon Winter Soldier did really well. Yeah, what else? What do we do Wonder Man series? That'd be great. Let's do that. We got, yeah, yeah. Oh, amazing. Let's do it. Absolutely. Every comment, though, on that video that I saw a trial, do you know what the comments?

What do you think the major comment was on that trailer? Who's going to watch this? No. It was all about, The greatest casting of all time, the guy in Superman, the villain, who seems like he was at least, oh, Superman's villain is, but it was all about him. It was all about him. It was all about him.

It's so funny to say that because when we talked about the geek buddies, I said it felt like you're back in college where the directors are using the same actors and all their stuff because they don't want to go out and cast new people. They're like, I just saw you on a show I was working on or a film was working on. Will you come be in my film? And so I don't understand. You can't find another guy. He might have been cast beforehand, dude.

He might have been cast before him. Very possible. And he very well might have been cast beforehand because I'm sharing these guys. Well, again, who knows when he was cast? Like, remember, Ironheart, like you said, came out a month, two months ago, whenever it came out, I saw footage from that in like 2022. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They shot that a long time ago.

So who knows when Wonder Man was shot? Who knows? Anyway, I want to see what the audience thought about it because again, I think John and I both thought, it looks like a well-made show. The question is, is it going to deliver for Marvel in the way that they needed to want it to? What do you guys think?

Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. Are we going to jump back to the D.C. side of things because there is that story now about Warner Bros. rejecting the Paramount Takeover bid. So what does that mean? Warner Brothers has reportedly rejected a takeover from David Ellison's Paramount Skydance in recent weeks. Bloomberg reports that Paramount's Skydance offered $20 per share, a number that Paramount deemed too low. Warner Brothers Discovery shares closed at 17.10 per share on Friday. It's unclear whether the bid also included the assumption of Warner Brothers 35.6 billion in total debt.

Warner Brothers Discovery market cap sits at 42.3 billion. Ellison's interest in bidding for WBD emerged last month, just weeks after closing Skydance deal to acquire Paramount Global. Surprise was that the bid was for all of the company, even as WBD plans to split into two separate companies next spring, Warner Brothers, which would comprise studios and streaming and Discovery Global, which would be the TV networks and Discovery Plus service. Ellison previously indicated that Paramount needs more content-producing engines

to achieve sustainable growth, and the overall industry needs more consolidation. So it doesn't mean that it's Dunsky. It just means that they said no to that initial bid. It doesn't seem like else is going to be the type of guy that goes, I don't want it anymore. He's going to get it. He's going to get it. I don't know.

It depends on the situation. Because, dude, like we're down here talking about shit on a podcast. You know these billionaires, bro. They're up there existing in a whole other realm of a. existing and how they're having these conversations. And nobody, none of you who are watching right now know what these guys are going to do and don't even pretend that you do because these guys work in a whole other level and have conversations that we are not privy to through intermediaries, through buffers and what have you

to figure this whole thing out. They could be in caho, Zazlov and Ellison, and who's going to come after them? There's buddy in the office? No. Ellison and Zazov could be in cahoots to drive the price up or to get it to. to a certain point and everybody's talking about it. And then they're going to take it over. They're working all this stuff out.

Because nothing, the idea that Warner Brothers would take the first offer is, you know, is ridiculous. They would never take the first offer. It's all about negotiating. And so they're going to figure this out and put it together if they want to make it happen. Now, there are other companies, Netflix says they're possibly involved or there's rumors that Netflix is involved. Other companies might be going in on trying to get WB. So there's possibilities there are other, like universal.

so I think is interested in it. There's possibilities here. But yeah, I mean, God knows what's going to happen. And we won't be privy to it until there's a big business insider or Wall Street Journal breakdown of everything that happened behind the scenes. But I agree with everything that you just said. However, I do think that the reason why I think is 100% going to get done is because this guy also wants it.

It's a game to him. And so he's got, he's got FU money. Like, B.R. FU. Super have you money. If your mother in front of you money. Right. Yeah, he had replaced at one point.

I don't know if he still is. Alon Musk is the most richest guy in the world. Yes. I don't know if they're back and forth, but he's number two or number one. Either way. It's a lot of money. Either way.

So he could buy it by himself if he wanted it, just like that. And so it's a game to him. It's fun to him. This is part of what he does, what he does. Right. If he wants it, he will get it in the same way that Elon Musk wanted Twitter. He wanted it. And he got it, whether you like it or not.

You knew that once he wanted it, he was going to get it. Yeah. So Netflix might not want to even play in this game. They might just say, okay, like you said, we'll get involved just to up the price and make you spend more money than you need to, even though it's not even going to damage you.

Right, right. So we'll get involved, but we're not going to really buy it. I don't think they're going to buy it. I think that this guy will get it, and then we'll have that whole conversation that we have in first 20 minutes all over again. Yeah, I just don't like it, man, because one person should not be in charge of two movie studios, man.

That is just unsettling on someone else. You know, you know me, Chris, you got to have competition. You've got to have different people involved in stuff. If you go into Monopoly situation, I think it's just dangerous. Well, look at what Disney did. Disney, I mean, look, Disney did the same thing. Disney did it with Fox and, you know, and so now you just, it really is Disney, Disney,

versus it's so bizarre if you look at it now because if they do get it you've got Disney which is for the most part pretty far leaning left and then you're going to have Warner Brothers which is going to be if this goes through pretty far right it's going to be the world is so interesting to say the least and and I told us so many times how the how the world politics blends over and I don't mean thematically with movies that's always been a part of oh well yeah but discussion-wise around the again around the 2017 area it was it just bled into it and became this thing of certain movies if you like it or certain movies if you defend it you're on the left side right certain movies if you hate it and you're going after that because you're on the right side so it's

like this thing now that it's like and now if two sides are now in charge of studios i don't know what the way that's almost just like i want to do that you know the michael jackson popcorn what do we got next because look in the long run does it the the irresponsible thing for me to say that i'm about to say which is true does it does it affect me financially um today no today no i don't know what that means as far as price is going for tickets i don't know what means for streaming service i don't know it could it eventually but as far as business wise doesn't affect me. No, right? We were in a position where we can talk about it

no matter what happens. Right. Yeah. Disney is not far left. What? What? What? What? He was kidding. He wasn't being serious. What are he talking about? I'm like him. It's always kind of out there. He wasn't. He was joking. He was joking.

I mean, you can't, you can't, what? Anyway. So the back and four, of the two of them would be very interesting to say the least. But I do think this is going to happen. I miss the days. We could just talk about this stuff without having to slide into all that other shit, man. I really miss the days.

It's gone over. Dunskey. Dunskey. And it's like that's the whole reason why I, God bless you and Mike and everybody else who takes their hard stances. God bless you. And I don't do it. I think it is pointless.

I think it is pointless. but it's another conversation. It's another conversation. I know. But I do want to ask you before we move on, your Star Wars comment. What made you? Does you still run a Star Wars themed show? Well, not in the last few weeks.

Okay. I mean, the fact that Laura Kelly hasn't texted me once to do a show in a month, that tells me that like there's a little bit of people kind of exhausted by it. And I was reading an article over the weekend. Someone, I can't remember what articles. It was one of these sites. And they were breaking, I just stumbled upon the article and they were breaking down how even the people who were anti-woke and anti-Star Wars aren't doing as much anti-Star Wars content anymore because their numbers are big. Their numbers are right.

That content is not anywhere near where it used to be. Because everybody knows that it's in the shitter. It's like you're just kicking, you're just kicking somebody that's already down. Right. You're picking what's left of the meat off of chicken bone and there's not much there. And so that is low-hanging fruit right now. If you're going after like how bad Disney and Star Wars is, like, yeah, we know that. We know that.

Don't watch those movies because it's going to be so bad. It's like we kind of know that it's going to be in bad shape. It's got potential for certain things. But like, but yeah, it's kind of low hanging. If you're making videos about that, it's kind of low hanging fruit. Like even over the weekend, like they released what, the two novels that are coming out. And one is Leah teaching Ray like that the gap there and before Rise of Skywalker. And I'm like, who is really going to read this?

And then there's the romance one that they're coming out with. And I'm like, this is not what you want to come out. out with when you're Star Wars, man. I think they live in their, I think they live in their own bubble because they, they go, they, I'm telling you, they, like, they go to the Star Wars celebration things and they go, oh, everybody loves this again. Of course. If we had a, if we had a Schmowdown convention back then, and you walk, oh, everybody loves us.

Then you walk around and you go to Comic-Con, like, what the hell is the Schmowdown? I don't know. I don't watch that shit anymore. Yeah. Like, it's like, you, you can't, you can't, like, use that. like because like i'm telling you and and floney is just so in oh yeah i really loves star wars still uh-uh no nope um so it's interesting but anyway yeah and i love that ray's coming back i because i like daisy ridley i love her as an actress and i love her in the role josha from den of

nerds tweeted out of me that he wants to go toe to toe about ray and i told him set it up let's go let's have fun yeah but i mean but i understand why people aren't necessarily excited by this i I understand if Starfighter is leading to the kid being dropped off at Ray's Jedi Academy, right? There's not enough people that are excited about that. No, you've got to make people excited about it in the content. It's because, like, look, people who are really locked into this and people who are not, like the hardcore Star Wars fans, right? Yeah.

I don't necessarily think they're going to be excited for a Ray movie, especially if you didn't like the new However, I think that the casual fan will be invested. And I think that the casual fan, if you can get them into the theaters, that's the magic trick. If you can get them into the theaters, they responded to it. So no matter whether you loved it, if you're a lover of it, if you're a hater of it, whatever it is, the casual fan did. The hardcore fans, or whether you're just like you were a big Star Wars fan and they let you down and you can't stand them anymore and you don't like their policy. politics you don't like this. Those people, majority of them, aren't the big Ray fans.

It's true. And that's a big majority of it, too. They should count as people who are going to buy tickets in the same way that people who love Star Wars and love everything that goes on. There's nothing wrong with it. And they make videos about everything that's so, oh, look, she's got a shoe on. Hey, wonderful shoe. They're going to love it no matter what.

You can't, but when it comes to the casual fan, Yeah. The casual fan could be interested Unless it's a boring storyline, you don't give her shit. That's when you can lose everybody. Yeah. I mean look, I know those movies made a billion dollars each I think each of them made a billion dollars But like the attitude around it isn't excited. No, it's interesting. You don't have the excitement. I think they just do a whole movie about the old lady in the end of episode night. Ray, who? Who are you? The whole movie is just her walking around up to people. Who are you? I'm Zimbabu. Zimbo, who? Who are you? And then she goes to the next town. And it's like, I'm Abelay. Abelay, who? Who are you?

It's a whole movie. It's called Who Are You? Look at this. Ray, who? Look at this clown paper change. You are not a Star Wars fan if you love Ray. That's, you can't, you can't do that. That's like, that's, that's, but that is though, John, that is the politics side of. like oh yeah right i know everything in the same way in the same way though that that's a moronic statement in the same way if someone goes if you don't love ray you're not a star wars fan right there are tons of people who say that shit too equally moronic right they're both more it's both sides of it's both it's both moronic like i said you're allowed to be in that pocket this is look disney has continuously led with poor choices and lucas someone's love with poor choices that i

believe that the majority of the hardcore fans ain't going to be excited about a movie. I think you're allowed to say that. Nothing. But don't forget those casuals. Don't forget those casuals. But nothing kills excitement more than we can't seem to find the right writer. We keep firing people off the film. Maybe a movie. It went through multiple writers and directors and came out successful. It rarely, rarely happens. Yeah, it's a mess. The whole thing's a mess. It's any whether Well, here's here's a funny thing. The hating side and the middle side can agree that Star Wars is a mess.

The the the the everything is awesome crew. No, they they they nothing's wrong. Everything's great with Star Wars is a you clearly it's not. Clearly it's not. Anyway. So that was a lot. All the stuff that we talk about the sale, Disney, Star Wars. WBD, WBD, all that.

Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. All right. Let's do one more topic before we get to the questions. Again, John said if we get to 100 questions today, he's going to break a scoop on here. Can we do it? Why not? Let's see.

Right now, currently at 35. 35. So let's do this. Let's bring up this conversation because this is one we always talk about on Mondays, and that's the box office. John, did you see Roofman, by the way? I did not see Roof Man. I've heard great things. I loved it. I've heard this.

I went to see Tron Aries yesterday, and I almost stayed to watch Roofman, but I should, but I didn't. Let's talk. We'll talk about it in a second. Let's go to these numbers here because Tron Aries derez at box office. Going into the weekend, Tron Aries was rumored to be heading for a strong start with the projections suggesting in the 40 million range that hasn't panned out. the 180 million budgeted films on track for our 3537. We'll get a full number in just the second.

Opening this weekend, following disappointing 14.3 and opening day lower than fair little flop. Morbius. It's also notably lower than Legacy, which debuted 15 years ago to 44 million. Critics reviewed are mixed B-plus audience score, the same as Legacy suggests it's not going to fare well domestically, both the third weekend of battle after another.

I'm going to get the actual numbers here from box office, Mojo. We'll do that. You got Tron areas at 33.5, 60 million worldwide. Roofman at number two, 8 million total. I think that will wind up making profit because I think it's a $25 million budget. And I think the word of mouth is going to carry over. Maybe I'm wrong.

We'll see. One battle after another is now at 138 million. It is getting buzz and everybody calling it potentially one of the best movies of the year. Gabby's Doll House, $45 million so far. We've already think John and I talked about it last week, that that has already turned a profit. And then Seoul on fire. I don't know this one.

It's a Christian. Okay, okay. So then that was, so $3 million at the number five spot. Okay. So I think that the first, we'll talk about Tron Ares. Right. I called it and I stick with it, visual pizza, right? It is absolutely one of the coolest looking movies I've seen in a very long time.

One million percent. Holy crap, some of the battles and the things. I mean, like, if you're just going, you're like, hey, all I heard is how great these visuals were, you will not be disappointed, especially if you go on IMAX 3D, it's, it pops. The story is lackluster. It starts out in the first 40 minutes, and I was kind of locked in. And, I mean, you don't even have Tron in the movie. It's called Tron.

He's not even in the movie. But, and then Arias, I didn't mind as much. I think Lato, they just want to beat up on him, and I get it. But, like, he, to me, he wasn't the weakest thing. I think that the rest of the cast is, what are they doing? They don't even know what they're doing in the movie. There's no development towards them whatsoever. Evan Peters, who's great is a one-note villain.

Julian Anderson is her, Jody Turner Smith. They're all just kind of just wasted in like, in like just kind of a lame story. But I liked watching it because it was just so visually stimulating. But I wouldn't recommend, oh, you got to go. This is a great Tron movie. It's, it's cool looking. That's all I can say about it.

Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, absolutely. I said that in my review yesterday on my show. I was like, this is, this is, if you're a Tron fan, you should go see it to enjoy the visuals, just like Tron Legacy. Yeah. But one of the, one of the gifts of this franchise, and I think some people who look at it from the outside don't get it, because I'm a fan of the Tron franchise is it is perfectly imperfect. It is absolutely perfect. And there's not strong stories in either one of these movies. It's the visuals and the concepts that keep you coming back, right? And I think this is where the movie, the movie is, fun to look at for sure i think jared letto as you said is the best part of the movie a very soulful performance in my opinion i think he's like gets a lot of unfair flack uh because i think he's a actually damn talented actor i thought jody turner smith was good but i agree with it evan i saw the nepo baby um tech bro performance from alien earth and that's the better way better performance i agree what heaven's doing jillian is collecting a paycheck because she's barely in the movie yeah And the story, you're absolutely right.

The story is so weak from the beginning. You don't progress. And even Greta Lee, who I think is a damn good actress, like you give her some trauma, but you don't really explore that trauma, and then you give it resolution. And like, well, what's the point? Like, so there was a lot in the story and the concept of like... I would have liked to see them flip it.

I would like to see her as the bad guy and Evan Peters is the good guy. That would have been interesting. Yeah, that would have been interesting. And the Pinocchio stuff, you don't explore, the concepts of what it means to be human. You just touch on it. You don't really explore it. And the idea of rampant technology coming into our world and infecting

our world. Again, Disney presenting concepts, but refusing to dive into them and actually flesh them out and explore them. It was frustrating on that level, but yeah, visually, I'm telling you, visually, it is, if you want to go watch something cool in IMAX, you can't

leave that movie going. No one has said the visuals are lame. They're incredible. Yeah. Incredible. Even the cameo, the Jeff Bridges cameo was just kind of there for fun. It was here to tie in the franchise. Yeah. That's it. All right.

So, Roofman, I knew nothing about this movie kind of going into it. I told you, unless I'm watching trailers for the reaction for the channel, I don't watch trailers anymore. I just don't do it. People said, well, don't you watch trailers when you go to see movies. Luckily enough, at press screenings, they don't show trailers. So I don't watch trailer. All I knew, I read some kind of synopsis about Roofman and I go, oh, I guess Roofman is like a comedy, like, you know, kind of like a, a rom-com comedy or whatever it might be a goofy thing.

Right. So I didn't know anything about it. And I just knew Channing Tatum was in it. And I didn't really know any about us who was in it. So then I'm walking into the theater. And I'm like, oh, who directed? And I looked down and I see Derek Seen, France. Like, well, this is going to be a very different movie than what I'm expecting it.

I love Derek Seen, France. I love Place Beyond the Pines, Blue Valentine. But I'm like, what, what am I about to? I'm like, there's no way he's doing a, you know, goofy rom-com. And I had no idea it was a true story. I had no idea. Kristen Dunst was in it. Peter Dinklage, Ben Mendelssohn.

I mean, dude, it's awesome. It's one of my favorite movie of the year. It's what I hear. It's really good. It's awesome. It's awesome. And you're so engaged in it. And I don't even want to tell people if they haven't seen anything of it.

But like, just knowing what the story is because then they show at the very end of the movie, they show like real footage from everything that happened. And it's like, oh, all that shit really did happen. and they go through it. Roofman is not a rom-com. It's not a wrong one. That's why I thought going into it. It is a true story.

There are comedic elements, but like realistic comedic elements, things that really happened inside of this thing that they play for comedic effect. It would be funny. If I was telling you a story about something that happened or something someone said,

yeah, that's funny. You know, but it's not. And so I would say it's a, it's a dromedy because there are comedic moments. Channington is excellent in the film. Um, and his will house, right? Like this is the kind of stuff Tatum does so well. So well.

Oh, and then, and, and, and Lakeith Stanton also right. Yeah. He's also great. Oh, and Juno Temple. I mean, the cast is insane. It's an insane cast. But, are you, she's great. Their chemistry is incredible.

They have incredible chemistry. And I was just like, oh, that was a great movie, man. I really enjoyed watching that film because I knew nothing about it going into it. Right. knowing how fascinating the true story was about what the guy did. And then the idea, like, it's just essentially the choices someone can make in their lifetime is always the conversation that I had many times over. Good people can make bad choices.

Sure. Good people can continue to make bad choices. Just because you make bad choices doesn't mean you're a bad person. It doesn't. And I think that that's what this movie ultimately says because it's like you're, there's time you're rooting for him when you're not supposed to be rooting for him because he's so damn likable and then there's things that you that you're like oh i hope that happens so maybe that shouldn't happen and you just invested is derrick c and france's best movie maybe for me i love

a place beyond the pines but i think this is my favorite because those other movies as much as i love them yeah you ain't feeling any kind you're like you're you're you're you're hurting i've never finished place like place beyond the pines it's it's so depressing it's so depressing but I love it. Yeah. And the other one was the one, the lighthouse movie, the one with him and Michael Fastbender and Alicia Bacaner. It's another deep, dark one.

Oh, right. There's another one, but this one, this one's cool. So anyway, I highly recommend that move. Highly recommend it. So that is, to me, that's number two. And then one battle after another continuing to do well in the box office, more and more word of mouth. I think it has the debut.

It's like if we're as wrestling fans, you remember that Monday Night Raw or Smackdown or the Royal Rumble when somebody debuted. Yeah. That's one bet off to another for Chase Infinity. Chase Infinity's, uh, yeah. She is the, uh, she is, this is her star performance. She's going to be in the conversation for awards. She's going to be everywhere.

You're going to see more and more of her. Um, and this is, this, this movie is continuing to catch fire. Number three is pretty damn good for this film. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's great that people are still going back to see it over and over. Like I said, I've seen it four times in the theater. I missed seeing it in 70mm last week, unfortunately, but maybe with Tron not doing well, they'll bring it back and put it there in Irvine and I'll go see it again.

But I love the movie. I really do. And it's great. And Jeff was like, oh, it's the politics. Isn't the politics. It's a story about a father and a daughter and how they repair their relationship with the damage of the way it started. And what can they do to find their way back to each other?

That's what keeps me coming back to the movie. I really enjoy the emotional stuff. The other stuff is fun, of course, as decoration of the film, but it's really about a father and daughter. And I think that's why people keep coming back to watch it. It's a really strong emotional story at the center of it. Agreed. Agreed.

All right. Well, that's the box office. What do you guys say? Did you see Tron Aries? Did you see Roofman? You see any of these movies? Have you been to the theater recently? Put your thoughts in there.

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So curious. Do me if you're calling me after you see it, too, because tonight, because I want to. Okay. Yeah, because I'm, I could see you going either way. I could see you saying it was long in the tooth, or I could see you say, no, people didn't, didn't have the balls to review this the way that they should because it's taking a stance. And I'm curious. I really am curious to hear what your thoughts are on.

I'm going to see Black Phone 2 tomorrow. Are you? Oh, nice. Maybe. I haven't looked at my screenings for the way. Let me see real quick while you're talking. Because the first one I'm going to do. I'm doing a reaction with that with Ming tomorrow.

I got a full, I got a full slate this weekend. I'm like, so for people who are wondering with that interstellar reactionist, Sam and I didn't have a chance to record with each other last week because she was slammed. I had a crazy week. So she's coming in tomorrow to shoot or tomorrow, yeah, tomorrow to shoot interstellar. So she was, so we'll have that up. The release schedule right now is I posted on the community tab or tomorrow will have black phone. The original up.

Yeah. We watch that for the first time. Wednesday will be Commando with me and Steph. Steph's never seen Commando. Thursday is actually because of the 35-year anniversary of Pretty Woman, myself and my wife are going to watch that. So that'll be up on Thursday and figured, you know, Julie's movie coming out this week, probably good timing.

Friday will be interstellar. Saturday and Sunday are Demon Slayer weekends. Monday, Chris Carr and I are going to be watching Triple R. which we she's she's never seen that one before. Nice. So that will be, and then Tuesday will be, Dunker. Oh, right. So that's, it's a, it's a full week. It's a full week. Yeah, it's going to be pretty crazy. Okay. So let's get to it.

45 currently. Currently. Currently. And so let's start with the first one. And the first one comes in from sea light. And so people are, how can we not displaying it? The first seven got lost. So I'm reading, I'm going to be reading them off. Roka, I hate to say this, but you're right about gun. He needs to be quiet and stop making promises that he can't deliver on.

Peacemaker didn't need that type of hype. What did he say? It was like his favorite thing he ever worked on, right? Yeah. He said all this stuff. He, you know, just promoted it to the sky. No, I get it. You go like, go, the creator's going to promote stuff, of course.

But the way he was promising. things. You can say, well, you guys didn't understand what he was saying. You can say that to you blue in the face. But the fact that hundreds of thousands of people thought he was presenting something and it was like, here's our big reveal. And the reveal, five to 10 percent of the audience got the big reveal. You kind of fell flat on your face. Because I guarantee you, maybe five to 10 percent of the odds understood what they revealed at the end and what they showed at the end there. because I don't want to ruin it for Christian, but what they showed,

you know, yeah, it was such a nothing burden. I hate saying this. I really don't care if you did ruin it. I really don't care. So, Go, pal,

don't know if I can make it live, but early support. Thank you, go, pal. He also says, go football team, beat the Bears. Tonight.

Yeah, that's right. Bob Skywalker says, Tiffy should have never lost Saturday. Steph is too new. I guess, so what happened? Are you,

did you watch? because you said you've not been watching as much. So what happened? Yeah, I up my crap because it's an extra six bucks. I already had the bundle. So it's an extra six bucks. So what not. But like, yeah, I watched it.

I thought the Sina Stiles match, that's with the reason to watch. It was good, huh? Oh, yeah, it was so good. Dude, I don't know if you saw it, but, sorry, you didn't see it, but like they were doing other people's finishers. I saw it on social media.

That was amazing. It was amazing. So, but yeah, I disagree with him. Tiffie is still green, man. And Stephanie McCur has been doing it all over the world, man. She is a better wrestler. So she won the title? Yeah.

And Tiffy is. Well, she won. She didn't win the title. Like, because they both had titles. It wasn't title versus title. Oh. But Stephanie deserved to win for sure because she's just a better wrestler than Tiff. I hate to break it.

So Tiffany still has the title. Yeah. I think y'all just get caught up in how hot she is. You don't really look at her wrestling events. Some of you are. All right. Let's see. Next one after that.

we've got Nathan Drake regarding the two new oceans movie and Heat 2 what audience do they hope will show up to those movies in a theater Heat 2 budget is reportedly 170 million

What they're hoping for In that case for Heat 2 Is if they land Leonardo DiCaprio Right That's your shot That's your shot to get people in Especially if you're going to have Allen like the older scenes

And like you know he's reflective thing in the way that like Indiana Jones did in the Indiana Jones Chronicles, whatever you're going to do with that. And then you get a really solid cast around it and you kind of almost do what one battle is doing with like giving it a shot for like Oscar type stuff. That's your shot with that. As far as what was the the other one? Oh, Oceans.

Who's doing Oceans? Is it Warner Brothers? Yeah. Clooney said that they got greenlit to do that. Oceans. And there's two competing Oceans movies apparently. there's an oceans 14 and then news broke on friday that there's going to be an oceans that margot rabe ocean's prequel movie is greenlit and is happening but they're replacing brian gossing with

bradley cooper um yeah yeah i mean the answer is that they you know it's i think that that's when you kind of look at it and say all right we take our shot and see how much money we can make in the theater but we really make this going for those streaming dollars or streaming or streaming numbers rather because this is we're not in 2005 anymore. You got to keep the budget down on oceans. How do you do that with that cast? How do you do that? If you want to come back, this is all we can give you. I agree with you. You want to come, come have fun for a couple weeks on a film. Great, come on, hang out.

I think that's what it's got to be. And they all got to understand the realities of the business. I mean, you're not going to do what they did to Apple. Clooney and Pitt are not going to do what they did to Apple and put them over the barrel for 45-meter rip. The other side of it, I think what you said about heat, I understand the questions, but if you make Heat 2 like the Godfather part 2, where you have the present day, Chris, who is reflecting back on what happened after the end of heat, which is what Heat 2 picks up as, goes back and forth in time. And then you put Adam Driver and you put Austin Butler in there,

then you've got yourself a much more modern approach to this story. And you're appealing to fans, especially male fans, who want to come see some badass film. They just don't bring in a lot of box office those two. Austin and Driver. Yeah. But if you combine it with you combine it with Leo, it's a great cast.

People talking about Leo like one battle after and a That's a completely different than. I know, I know. So yeah. Totally. Okay. So now we're caught up. Okay.

Ralph! So what the half was up with that freakier Friday watch? Hey, listen. What happened? So it was it's a movie that did well in the theater My wife had never seen it before So I gave it a shot and said oh you know what You know it just got released

Yeah and maybe people will watch it I can definitely tell you Yeah what was I wrong Nobody watched it My wife was like why are we watching this And I said because you haven't seen it She's like is anyone going to watch it I said I don't think so

Yeah and I was right That nobody watched it I think that it's one of our lower but my wife and I had a very nice time watching it together. Let me see right now. Currently, I don't even think it's no. It just barely hit 3,000 views. 5,000 views less than usual.

It bombed. The movie did not bomb, but ours did. We take shots here. We take shots and try to do some new things. Like I said, we're going to do the pretty woman. My wife is adamant right now. She's like, give me something that people are going to watch. We're probably going to.

to do stranger things together. Oh, nice. He loves stranger. So we're probably going to be strangers. But yeah, anyway. Doug Developer. Hey, guys, are there any movies that made you really want to visit the city? It was shot in.

Love actually made me want to visit London during Christmas. It's a great question. I'm trying to think in general. I think Chef made me want to visit New Orleans. I've never been to New Orleans. In Florida State, you never went to New Orleans. Oh, man. Wow.

I went around six times when I lived there. It was great. Nice. Never invited me once. I didn't really know you that well back. So I'm trying to think which ones for me. My perfect day at sand, salt water, and friends. But my moderate to severe plaquesoriasis can take me out of the moment.

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And that means everything. Ask your doctor about Skyrizzi, the number one. dermatologists prescribed biologic in psoriasis. Visit skyrizzi.com or call 1-866 Skyrizzi to learn more. No, it's not, it's not fair. Are there any movies that made you really want to visit? No, because a lot of the ones, like, when I was younger, like L.A., I guess, but then I went there. Yeah, right, exactly.

Vegas, been to Vegas. Nothing that stands out, but that doesn't mean that there isn't. It just doesn't stand out of the moment. It's a shit answer, Doug. I'm sorry. Mike Joyce, this would only happen if David Ells had buys WB. Well, yeah. The same person that hired very wise to run CBS News wouldn't be okay with someone like James Gunn.

Well, yeah. I mean, that was the whole conversation. You know, it's like if he gets it. If he does, I don't, I mean, that's another point, Mike, where if they don't buy it, then this conversation probably isn't happening with James Gunn. However, I just think that this dude is locked in and wants to get it. Yeah. Um,

Oh, so there you go. So we ready. So is this where the inception came in here? I like this. Is this where you came up with this? Dennis Hoffman, huge Roka fan over here.

If John hits 100 question, he drops the scoop. Did you even see that? No. Oh. Oh, there you do. Wow. Dennis,

you and I on the same page. Same page. Well, there you go. So we got right now 50, 50 more and John drops to scoop. Come on. So we can do it.

Let's do it. I want to give an update, by the way, for the, show. We got some, we have a very big phone call tonight. That is going to be kind of crucial into the next stage. My goal is that I get off of this call and have an idea of what the number is for the Kickstarter to where then I can, I don't know when I'll be able to announce the director and team that's going to be involved in it. But we'll be pretty excited.

I'll let you guys know real soon. I just have chatting Martin Scorsese. He's finally going back to the television. Yeah. Well, I didn't want you to. That was your scoop. You just let the scoop go. Oh, wow, 50 questions early. Sorry. The little Yankee, just missing you at New York Comic Con. Because I met Koi and he said, you just left.

Have great. And said, I just left Koi because I went, Coy had a couple of panels. I met him that I was walking around, met him again. And then we walked over. He had somewhere else to go. I went and hung out at the. I guess it was the Valnet suite because it was screen rant. Oh yeah. And CBR.

CBR and Collider. So I hung out with Perry for a little bit and Gray. It was great to see them. Talked to them for a bit. And then they had some interviews going on. They invited me to stay and hang out. And I was like, I'm going home. I had a hot dog and left.

Who's that? It was like I was in the mood for a hot dog. I had a hot talk. I just took off. But it was nice. You know, walking around in the city. It was a beautiful weather. And that was it.

So sorry, I missed you as well. Okay. 50. RC. Do you think Paul Heyman would be better at running WWE than Triple H? No, I don't. And I say that lovingly because I don't know if I, I've talked about this when I worked for WWE.

Paul Heyman was like very kind to me and took me. under his wing and was trying to tear where other people were being dicks bris richard uh he was being very like he he was he was nice he was and he was trying to help me um he likes to be in his pocket of things i don't think he would want that responsibility to do even him trying to do commentary wasn't necessarily right best not that he couldn't do it I agree with you. And I think I agree with everything Kristen said, but I would like to add. I also think if you're going to put someone in charge right now,

it's got to be someone who's a little younger with younger blood and understands how to appeal to the younger generation, how to make social media works. Not that Triple H doesn't have people on his staff because clearly there is good social media going on. But I think there's some real mistakes happening now because I don't think he's reading the room correctly. So I think there's where you need to find somebody who's bold and innovative in leading the room for WWE. Yeah, it was like some of the lowest ratings in Smackdown history, right? Yeah. If you turn it off me and Christian.

And by the way, our friend Aaron Turner texted me over the weekend and said, I haven't watched the WW thing in weeks. Wow. Like we're on a break right now. Wow. You're losing the hard. If you lose Aaron Turner, you got problems. Yeah, you got problems.

Yeah. Yeah. Ralph. Hey, my two cents on last week's combo, Raging Bull is a better film than Rocky in every aspect of filmmaking, acting, directing, cinematography, writing. And I told you, I'm not going to argue with you on that. You asked me what I enjoy watching more. And that's Rocky.

Yeah. All day long. Really fair. Love Raging Bull. But yeah, that's it. All right. Let's see. So, again, we are currently at 70.

Oh, 73. Currently at 53. Okay. Trying to get to that 100. If we get to that 100, John. we'll break a scoop let me win again i'd like to win again that's right you won last week didn't you okay that's right pl d on the on the text change because i was trying to go through the numbers i was at comic con asking who who was winning and i said because because luke sent me who you guys won

yeah and i said are we sure that they beat mike and staff and and and sorry mike and rox you right And so Luke said, let me go and check. PLD's next text was, can I donate anything now to help them win? It was good. It was good. Johnny Petriza. Thoughts on Crown Jewel Perth. I loved it.

That was what was that what was this weekend? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a weekend, yeah. I thought it was good. You know, for matches that don't mean anything in the long run, they were fine. It was a fine show. And I love Shinskei coming back to the old school anthem. That was great.

So, yeah, it was fine for a show. Yeah, I'm just, I mean, again, I'm so far removed. Like, the things, right? I'm so, like, locked into watching all the Oscar stuff. Yeah. Even if it's stuff that's not even going to be nominated, like, stuff that they're pushing out there. Like, I just watched the Scarlet Johansson one that she directed.

Oh, Eleanor the Great. Did you watch it? I've watched it. I've got a list of things to watch, and I'm watching this week. Is there any buzz on that one? For June Squibb, maybe. But she's great. I don't know that it's.

hitting, I mean, hitting the, you know, the right tone, so to speak. So I watched that and then, what was the other one? There's another one. Oh, the Steve Coogan one? I just started it, the Penguin one. Okay. But they put some other stuff on there this week and then I'm going to double check and watch. But I'm trying to watch everything this year because it really, it did.

Like I said, we talked about it very clear about how I think that it is a travesty when the Oscar, the, the, you know, the. You know, they even made this rule now that Oscar voters aren't watching things. Yeah. And yet they're voting on them. And I didn't get a chance to watch everything. But I watched everything that was being like kind of nominated and stuff. But I didn't get a chance to watch everything.

And people are like, well, you didn't watch everything. So I'm trying to watch everything now. I don't know if I will review everything, but I'll certainly watch as much as I can, especially the stuff. My goal is to try to watch everything. Leaning with the buzz so I can nominate correctly. It can do all that stuff. So that's the goal.

Ralph. Can we watch Departed on the channel? Maybe with Sarah or his stunt double. It's my favorite Scrocesi film. I just don't know who hasn't seen that. The only person that I would guess hasn't seen it is Winston. If Winston hasn't seen it. Yeah, that would make sense. Vincent Wobie hasn't seen it. I don't think he has. But we're in Demon Slayerland right now for like a while. Yeah. So we're not going to be out there for quite a while. I'm looking at the thing east of wall Elder of the Great Ohio I watched oh hi over the week Did you see that one? I've seen that I'm selling you I've got a list of these that I'm going to be watching over the next week It was good for the first 40 minutes I love her in the bear and I like Logan Lerman

It goes so it goes so south And it takes a swing which I respect But it goes in such a direction That I'm like It doesn't nobody seems real after this one thing thing happens. Oh, okay. Like this one, you'll, if you see the movie, you'll know immediately, and you go, oh, that's a choice. And then it just turns into this whole other movie. And I'm like, eh, and it lost me. I was into it and then it lost me. Then I said,

what was the other one? You're looking at the list right now? Yeah, on Swift Horses. That's the one. I watched that, I did not like that movie at all. Okay. At all. It was, it was, it was, pitched as one thing, turns into something completely different. The characters are morons. Oh, they're such morons. Every one of them. And it was bummer because I like seeing Sasha Kaye, but everyone's a moron in that movie.

Oh, this is so the don't let's go to the dogs. I guess this is Mbeth David's directorial. I didn't see that. Yeah. All right. Yeah. I've got some things to watch. I watched a lot.

Well, go through the top there. Oh, okay. All the way from the top. The bad guys, too. That one, that one I got to watch with the little one. Dogman, we watched yesterday. Love you. Val Walla, we talked about last week.

I really like that. East of Wall. Have you seen East of Wall? No, that's one that's coming up. A lot of people say that's good. I've seen that. All right.

I'll check that one up. Lily, which I don't know what Lily is. I started it, bailed on it after about an hour. It's very low budge, which is cool, but it just doesn't,

but it's noticeably low budget. Okay. It's what's our favorite? Untouchable. I didn't, I didn't love it. Jane Austen wrecked my life. That's not a Christian Hall.

I saw the trailer for it and say, and if my wife says, I don't want to watch that, there you go. but I don't know if that that's one that I don't think like I said I'm going to try to watch everything that I can but I'm going to really lean on the ones that I think are getting Oscar like buzz I don't think that's one of them.

Hello beautiful I don't even know what that is. Thank you. How to Train Your Dragon? It's a drastic world movie. Penguin Lessons is the one you're talking about with Steve Coogan and sinners. So I've seen a fair amount. R.C. I like Superman, but it was a bit too goofy and silly.

I agree with that at times. And that's because gun needs to be checked and shouldn't be allowed to do whatever he wants. I mean, John definitely agrees with that. I kind of feel like, and I said this on the show yesterday on my show, the truth there, I said, like, the reason we didn't see these gunisms in Marvel is because Kevin Feigy went through the stuff and said, cut that shit, don't. We're not going to do that. You're not going to have Tim Meadows getting mouth fucked by an imp through his space helmet.

You're not putting that on Marvel. And those are the things that I think were good moves by Faggy to corral gun in this way. And I imagine those are the moments that Gunn has used as kind of like the anger towards Feige. And that's why he's getting to let his freak flag fly here because no one's there to tell him no. Safran's not going to tell him no. Zadlov's not going to tell him no. So he's doing what he wants to do. But I do think he undercuts his stuff by sliding into that 14-year-old sophomoreic Beavis and Butthead type of humor, man.

Too much. Yeah. Medea Remen. Happy Canadian Thanksgiving. Yeah. To you as well. able to watch live since I have a day off amazing thank you also loving the demon slayer reactions what's your favorite thing about so far well the animation is incredible it's incredible um I like the lure I like how detailed the lore is I I mean the lead character um is so he's just so lot he's just a good guy he's a good guy trying to do the right thing um and then the the the goofy characters that are that he's meaning and like each and each demon is different and the emotional pain that each demon kind of has.

Have you watched any of this, John? No, I've never seen Demon Slayer. It's good. Yeah, I like it a lot. I tell you that, yeah. Ralph! Abby and DeLuca Greenlit, my three favorite fears of the films of the year.

One battle, right? Another win, another win that we didn't talk about. Sinners, weapons. James Gunby by most too disappointed. Goofy Superman and Peacemaker, too. What can you say? You know, that's, that's, yeah. Winning.

winning that's the thing remember when people attacked me for having issues about gun well you know like i said it's it's a matter of when you when you do it early you got to you got to put the you got to have the taped up fist with the glass on it um but look he can prove everybody wrong with his next couple of wins that's why i say it's still early you got to you gotta give him a chance still before you pull the plug on it's true um Connor Preslamski man that piece Finale was a travesty. This is what happened when James got a zero oversight to rein him in. I'm worried about the DC going forward.

Keep gun away from Batman at all costs. Is it really that bad? The finale? You'll say, all right. I don't know if I will. I really don't know if I will. What does that say?

What does that say if you can't get excited to watch? And I love Peacemaker. And you love Seena. I love, well, I love Peacemaker Season 1. I love it. And I liked the first three episodes.

I just have had all those movies that you just mentioned. that were you going over the Critics Choice Awards of that. Those are my priority over that. I would much rather watch those movies right now than that. It doesn't seem like anything I'm really that interested in right now.

And I have the screeners for Welcome to Derry, which I'm probably going to start watching soon. Mark Long. Hi. Have a good Monday. Thank you, Mark. Currently at 58, John. Nice. Just around just a little over 40 before we can potentially get a scoop

come on come on Nathan Drake Barroka didn't you love the Nelson Camio what is no oh god no Jud Nelson Nelson is Nelson Nelson from the 80s they do a cameo in in the finale and yes the band was in the 90s

they'd even play any of the big hits that they so but like uh no because I thought that was gone play how can it's pandering to that certain age audience hey Nelson remember Nelson if the finale had been good, that Nelson thing

would have hit way better. So it was more of a bit. Yeah, it was more of a bit to try to pander to that audience that would remember Nelson, you know? Interesting. A lot of great thoughts here today by everybody. John Darius, hope you two are having a good weekend regarding gun. I believe the studio

that gets WB will reboot it again so long as Batman, Wonder Woman, are not cast yet. If they are, it may create an uproar and push away audiences, thoughts. Agreed. I just think that there would be something almost like heartbreaking about it, but I can see it happening where they go, you can't reboot Superman again.

And people like Cor and Sweat. Keep them without gun. That's to me, I think that's a better play than doing it all over again. People are going to, people are, it's going to hurt too much. The audience is going, I don't care. Another Superman. Another way, this one does why? And then he's still, look, I'll tell you right now, though, who's going.

And that's Matt Reeves. Yes. Right now is going, I'll be making my third one whenever I want to. He was, he played the long game. Yes, sometimes you have to. Yep. You have to be the smarter person in the room. And I'm not always the person who plays the long game.

So I understand what it's like to play the short game because short game sometimes you get short satisfaction, but not long satisfaction. And that sucks in the end. And so when you're seeing the situation with Matt Reeves, I agree with you 100%. He's just sitting back watching this whole thing happen and not getting involved. And I wonder if maybe Matt has some, Matt McGloin has some validity to what he's saying about gun, doing what he wants to do. Because remember, he's rushing to get to that Wonder Woman. He's rushing to get to these other things.

So will he be able to put his universe in motion as a way of saying, you can't fire me, my universe is in motion? It's a great point. They're a really good point. You know what I saw in the comment section. So I was like, well, wait a minute, it's only the first trailer for Wonder Man. They even show he gets powers yet. he has powers how do you not show that in the trailer

if someone that doesn't know that he has powers and you don't show that in the trailer like what if you only have one you well not only what if you only have one shot in your first trailer to get people interested unless the people like who are already going to watch it yeah right right because then they're okay

if I was like all right what's this new Marvel thing and then I didn't know that guy has powers yeah he does yeah well I mean how the man I don't know. What does that mean? That's not what they showed in that trailer. Yeah. In no shape or form did they show at all that that guy gets powers?

How does he get powers? What are his powers? Like that that was now that trailer is even is dumb. How do you not show that? You got to show a little bit of it to show you, oh, yeah, he actually does get powers. Right. Oh, that's dumb. That makes it even less interested now.

Eric Slaby, have you guys seen House of Guinness? It's solid. I've heard good things about it. Yeah, I got to watch this series. I have not watched the series. Damn it. Yeah, I got a, I'm hoping Roxy covers that soon. Cool. Usually on Tuesday, she covers it. So Orca, 447, with big hits like Wicked, Zootopia, and Avatar are still coming.

I think 2025 could be the first year in a long time that no comic book film makes it to the top 10 box office of the year. Wow. That's crazy. That's crazy. When you look at the movies that are out there, what are you looking at the top 10 right now? Let me see box office. I mean, you're going to have how to train your dragon. What's the, Minecraft.

Minecraft's number one. Well, domestically, Minecraft's number one. Leelode's Stitch, Superman, Jurassic World, Sinners, fantastic for how to train your dragon, Brave New World, Mission Impossible, and Thunderbolt. So I think there will be. Superman will be in there. Yeah. Superman will be in there.

But it might be bumped towards the end. I think a few of the Brave New Worlds in there, that'll get knocked out, especially with, you know, Avatar, Zootopia and Wicked. Those three,

those three movies right there, well, Avatar is going to take the number one spot. It's going to be thrown Minecraft. Zootopia's got a shot to do it, too. Dude, I just watched, so what we were going to do,

and I just kind of opted against it. Right. Because Sam came in to shoot something on Friday, but I was going into the city. I didn't have three hours. She didn't have. have three hours to do interstellar. So we did the first Utopia. She had never seen it. Right. I was going to release that reaction this week. I'm saying, you know what,

I'm going to hold it and wait until we get closer to the release of two. Yeah. I can say this. It's one of the best reactions ever. Sam, like just, it's the reaction you want to see someone have to Zootopia. That's such a great movie. It's so great. It's so great. And I love rewatching it again, too. So, and then the third, and Wicked. Wicked's going to do very, very well. Right. Yeah. So those movies, those could play in the top five, all three of those. Oh, yeah. Totally. Bulldog, 31087. 67 right now, getting close to that 100. Getting close. Honestly, if this does happen and they scrap everything again, I'll quit the movies and go back to rewatching the animated movies. Nobody yet has cracked the movie DC code, in my opinion.

It's, I couldn't blame somebody, though. I don't necessarily know how much I believe people when they say that, but I couldn't blame you for taking that stance. you know yeah yeah and i think that they have cracked the code and like i would have loved to have seen yeah a christopher nolan dc u in that in the vein of what they did in the dark night like that would have been great like and being able to try to i know it's weird because you couldn't blend over superman and wonder what if they found a way that you could yeah um i would have liked to have seen that but i don't i don't i don't know where they're going to to go. I don't know. Can you bring up PLD's comment? Where? Well, I'm going through the old ones right now. Okay. All right. Okay. Maybe we're not or yeah, yeah, right. What time did he put it in?

1035 a.m. 1035? Yeah, I don't know. Oh, wait, your turn. Your, your time. Yes. Sorry. Yeah. So 1.35. So I'll, once we get there, I'll bring it back. Okay. Miguel Zan. Do you all think that Sean Penn or Vanessa Datoro and Tanya Taylor should and, and, you know, will get an Oscar nom. I don't think Leo should. Thanks, y'all. So here's the thing. I haven't really talked about this. You can see. Let me see.

I didn't think Tiana. I thought Tiana Taylor was the weakest out of all the performances. I don't think she's going to get nominated. Yeah, I don't, I think she, I think she, I think Chase Infinity to me will get nominated. I think that Leo will get nominated. Yeah. I think he was great. I disagree with you on that.

I think he should. Yeah. I agree. I think because they're battling against each other, Sean Penn will push Benicio out. Yes. Which I understand as much as it pains me because I love him so much in the movie.

But yeah, I don't think Tanya Taylor was that good in the movie. I don't think she was bad. I shouldn't say that. I think out of everyone else, she was the weakest. And here's the thing. I still have not made this decision yet. John has seen it, what, four or five times in the theater? So he can probably say this better than me.

I don't know yet. got to watch it again if it is because you're not supposed to like her character. I mean, her character is extremely unlikable. So I don't know if it's because she did the job so well that I disliked her or was because she was a little too over the top. I don't know yet. I got to watch it again. I have to say, I didn't find her unlikable.

I just think she, you know, what I think the, and what I think people miss about the movie is that PTA is commenting on the fucked up people that are on both sides of this political debate. You know, she is she's an example of that. You think she's a revolutionary, but she's actually working out her own sexual stuff and her own... She's a horrible person, dude. She's like she's having

you know, she's having sex with both sides in essence. I know, but she's married, she loses her kid behind. I didn't, I did not like the character. She's clearly a lost person. Yes. So people say like there's, there's a commentary going on. So when people think it's a left-leaning film, I go, you're insane. He's making fun of all sides.

Yeah. And showing you how messed people are on both sides. Alex, Netflix buying Warner Bros. would be a disaster. There'd be no Warner Brothers title that would come out in theaters again. That's a great point, by the way. You don't think so? And they'd cancel every HBO show after season two.

The second part is hilarious. Wouldn't that go against their mantra? No, because I think they want to have a movie studio without building a movie studio. And so WB is the way to do that. It's like you get a movie studio with WB so you don't have to build out a Netflix movie studio. And it's like adopting a child in essence.

Okay. And so they would be able to put out their stuff through that arm and they would develop stuff on that end. Yeah. Yeah. Dingus McNally, after hearing the mixed reactions, do you think you won't finish season two of peacemaker Christian? Also, last night episode,

Tass was so good and sad. Oh, don't say anything else about TASC. That episode finally happened. Don't say anything else about TASC. Yeah. We did not watch it last night because we, we just by the time, the whole day, there's like, the weather here is kind of crazy right now. So we decided to just, we were playing games with the kids and hanging out all day. And then my little one went to bed a little late. And then my wife was doing stuff around the house. I'm like,

stop doing stuff around the house. Let's, let's watch something. By the time we did, it was too late. We finished black, the episode Black Rabbit that we were watching. Oh, yeah. Which, um, I still like, I, I, that I, I think, I think Roxy called it like a soap opera and she was so right. I enjoy watching it. It's not as good as task, but it's, it's, it's good. But we didn't, we didn't invest in task kit. So we're probably going to watch that tonight.

But as far as the peacemaker thing goes, I don't want to say no. It's not like skeleton crew, right? The skeleton crew, I just wasn't interested. I'm like, I'm never going to watch that show. But for peacemaker, I still want to see how it ends, but I'll probably go in real low expectations now. Yeah, so it might not have, might not be as bad. Right. If I'm expecting a fart and I get a fart, I'm like, well, I can't say, oh, why'd you fart?

Because you told me you're going to fart. Right. Alex, don't forget it. If Ellison buys WB Discovery, he then owns CBS and CNN. It's true. And he wants to buy TikTok too. I think that that's another reason why. I think that's another reason why that we go into the political side, that's why it's

going to happen. Yeah. I think it's a political play, like we were talking about before. That's why other people are. like, well, why would he buy it before they separate it out? He wants to buy it so he can control the narrative. They're being put out there politically.

And a lot of people are going to get canned. Eric Slaby, if it does happen between those studios, I just imagine the gladiator are you not entertaining posted after the release movies. That's great. 73, John, not too far. Not too far. Just around less than 30 to get a scoop here from the

outlaw. Carlton Rudder, London calling. I've been watching a load of short. films this month do you like short films Disney plus is a go-to streamer if you do it's not that I don't I just don't watch them that much yeah yeah what Christian said 100% battery what's far left about Disney oh my god you have you have you have another two hours then they then they lean left I guess well I mean you just had the show the Pixar show with a trans storyline like they they had it they removed it because people they were worried about people get upset but they still shot it wrote it out and had it so like they do

lean left or they do in occasionally far left. I don't think they lean far left in everything they do, but I think you could argue they do lean far left at times a certain things. If you were going to categorize them, you would categorize them as far left. Or not everything, I agree, not everything,

but a lot. Alex, depends on what you mean by far left. Disney, after all, it's a corporation of corporate values. Well, that's not untrue.

That's not untrue. But a lot of the stuff, like when it comes, even when it comes to like casting or comes to a lot of the genre was saying stuff that's being told messaging and all they tend to do that more yeah yeah um okay let's see again so at 73 73 75 75 to go come on 25 to go and we get a scoop here from john can we do it and we've got 20 minutes to spare it's about a question a minute um okay dengis mcgnaly christ and i asked roka this yesterday the Oscars are tomorrow who you're giving

the best lead actor and actress awards too. Oh my goodness. Okay, so best lead actor right now after what I've seen. Trying to think of what are the ones that I've seen. And right now I'd probably go Leo, but there's probably something you could bring up that I go, oh yeah, maybe him and said. But Leo right now, best actress.

Come on, John. I haven't seen a lot of the movies that a lot of these actors or a lot of these websites are saying that these actresses are going to be nominated from, right? So I don't think she'll win, but I say Julia Roberts. I'm telling you. I don't even know she's really good. I'll be also. She might not.

She might not. But I think she should. I think the buzz right now for the movie is, is, I think for shock is going to be Dwayne not being nominated. I think that film crashing and burning the way it is. I had a conversation about that at Comic-Con, actually. We're talking about that and The Rock, and the conversation was that The Rock still has a shot, but she doesn't. And I said, I don't know, I still think that she got a shot.

Julie. Yeah. She carries the movie. Yeah, I don't think The Rock has a shot. I really don't. We'll see. Ralph! Tron Airs is easily top three, Tron.

Well said. I don't know if they'll ever make a fourth one, though. Oh, man, maybe in 15, 20 years. Yeah. 23 to go. 23 to go, 77 right now. Seattle, K.O. I love Seattle K.O.'s picture.

Yeah. It's a, it's, you know who that is? Isn't that Muhammad Ali? No. No. The Shogun and Rampage. Oh, Rampage Jackson going down. Yeah.

That's a great fight. Well, that's in pride. Late to the one battle after another party caught a matinee showing yesterday. I totally get it. it. That movie rocks. Movie the year for me as well. Keep up the good work, Jens. That's going to be a one that's going to be a lot of fun to watch on a rewatch once it comes out. I think he's going to sweep.

He's going to sweep? I don't know. We got to, I don't know yet. We've got to see what else is coming out, you know? Alex von Gallum, cool name. Hey, Christian, and Roke, do you think Kathleen Kennedy will be out by January 1st? She's a Hall of Fame producer, but Lucasfilm needs to change. If I could

give myself a dollar for every time I've had this conversation, I would have $25. And that's still a lot of a lot of conversations about it. She is, I'm telling you, she's got photos of Bob Iger somewhere in her, because I, no, I don't think she's going to be out. Do I think she should be out? Yeah, I do.

Not for any other, I agree with you as far as Hall of Fame producer. The whole, we've talked about this forever. And John and I never talked about before. the whole team, the head team, needs to be gutted. The coaching staff, it's like Aaron Boone right now. They're talking about Aaron Boone. See you later. Oh, please. I wish. It's like, you know, you can only, if you don't win championships,

she didn't even play for a championship. You didn't a freaking movie come out since 2019. So I think the answer should be yes, but I don't think she'll be gone. No. I mean, yeah, Jeff said that he thinks she's going to be out in January. I don't know. I can no longer play this guessing game with her. You just never know.

And who the fuck is like clamoring to be in charge of it and deal with the angry fans and the toxicity? Like, who is crambling? Even Faloni is already getting like, you know, shots taken at him. And so I just don't know that you necessarily want this. So for right now. It's over, dude. Then they are so tone deaf. Yes.

Like if he, if they give him the keys, then that that franchise is toast it might as might as it will just be called the c w star wars if you take so 100% young adult stuff 100% if they give that to him then you can start throwing the flowers on the on the on the coffin uh Alexander Wilson and are ruined star wars oh I know exactly where you're going it was so good that people couldn't really talk negatively about it and its quality also made the star was property look amateur I mean I don't think it ruined it, I think it didn't help it because it's like, you have it, but that's the, that goes back to what we were just talking about. And John said it before very well. Good leadership says,

whoa, uh, this is our brand. Let's start going more games of thrown with this. Let's try to let's, we've gone the kid route with this for a while. Serious is working. Yeah. Taking ourselves serious worked here. Trying to be part of the conversation is like if, if you could do it with dragons and and Calisi and all that stuff and get consistent notoriety and and Emmys. Let's go that route. But they didn't. They're going and they're doing other. They didn't mean in Greenland another show.

But I shouldn't say he didn't yet. We don't know yet where they're going to go with it because he did. Simon Kinberg did say he wants to go more that route. Everybody is pitching more and or stuff. So maybe they're going to do that. But Assoco, season two ain't going to be it. I'll tell you that. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. What do you think, John? Yeah, no, I think absolutely. But that's kind of what you see the potential of Star Wars being as Andor. Remember, everything was compared to Empire Strikes Back when Strikes Back came out. And you look at Mandalorian, season one, you look at Andorre, you look at Rogue War. Those are the things that really stand out.

I'm not in the prequel trilogy camp like so many of you. I'm not. And there's so many holes in issues with all three of those films. I can't put that there. But we've seen the potential of Star Wars in those projects. Rog 1 and or whatever. And it is, there is a calling for that. But you can do the other stuff.

It's just that somehow you're not finding the right mix of people doing the more four quadrant type Star Wars and the people doing the more serious type Star Wars. But there's clearly a taste for it. Cool cash, CG. Gigi, excuse me. Can you also talk about Daredeville boring in season two? I mean, talked about it a lot. I enjoyed season two a lot.

Oh, you're born again. Sorry. Born again season one. Never mind. I hear what you're saying. Is there more news about it? They released a trailer over the weekend. Oh, they did. Yeah. Not online. It's there at the New York Comic-Tal.

Oh, at the Comic-Con. Yeah. And there's like 19 seconds of it that someone leaked on. But, oh, okay. They officially announced Christian Ritter is coming back. Okay. There were allusions to the defenders, so they'll probably come back soon. Got it. Okay.

I'm excited for it. I like season one a lot. I am too fly cam. I don't see anyone being overly positive about Star Wars anymore. Then you're not paying attention. There definitely is. I think it's undeniable as Star Wars is in the dumps, and I don't think Assoco will change that.

Well, that part's true. But there are in the same way that we've mentioned, there are channels that were just, you know, their whole thing is just to hate. There are channels that just cannot criticize it because, well, that's not what we do. We love everything, Star Wars. To me, that is damaging to do that.

It's enabling is what it's doing. I think when any pundit is invested in just defending one brand or one creator and refuses to admit that there are issues with that brand or that creator or that IP or that franchise, that's a problem. They're no longer objective. Yeah. And that's an issue. Christian unpronounceable. Have you guys seen the vampire list that trailer? If so, what are your thoughts?

No, did you, John? I did. I did. I watched it over the weekend. I had no idea this even existed. And I love those Anne Rice books. I used to be like in the 90s. And I was like, wait, is this happening?

Because I know there's been a last interview with the vampire series, but I didn't know they spun off into a Lestat series. So I might actually give that thing a try. I might read out to AMC Plus and see if they'll send me some screeners. Dingus McNally. After disappointing box office and reviews, do you think this is the end of the Tron franchise

where we see another movie in 15 years with AI Bridges? I don't know if it's in the end because it depends on who gets a hold of it. I still think there's a world there will exist. I think that the story-wise, I think they dropped the ball and should have went with what Kaczynski set up. They should have went that way with the story.

They should have tried to get Garrett-Hedlin back. They should have tried to get Olivia back. And they could have still had Aries in it. Yeah. Do I think there'll be another one? I just don't know it's it's an IP that still maybe has some juice left in it I don't know yeah no I mean if you did anything it would have to be a tv series or maybe you know you could do a tron anime series that I think would be really interesting on the on Disney Plus that could be

possible but I think they want to let this one and who knows we it's only been one weekend we don't know if people will like kind of go back over and over again and it has some legs so we'll have to see just because they had a disappointing opening we weekend doesn't mean that it's going to necessarily crash and burn. So we'll see because I think I see a lot of people pushing back online. I see a lot of people saying, I don't know what the critics are talking about. That was a fun movie. The scores coming out of the audience scores are pretty high coming out of that movie.

So maybe they'll keep going back. Ralph, Chase Infinity said Leo gave her the same advice he gave to him as he shallame, no hard drugs, no comic book movies. I mean, if you always have Scorsese, I guess. I mean, yeah, it's easier for him to say that because he's had the opportunities that not a lot of people get. So I have heard him, no hard drugs, agreed.

Of course. Agreed. No comic book movies, though. I mean, come on. I mean, you're going to tell Christian Bail that when Nolan comes to? Right. You know what I mean? So I don't think that's, I understand what he's saying.

I understand what he's saying. It's more of a sellout type thing and more like, but, you know, Leo has the ability to say those things. If Chase Infinity gets an opportunity, to do a Marvel or DC movie that's, you know, that has an opportunity to work with somebody big she should take. Hawkeen Phoenix. Right.

And Pete Ledger won Oscars. Right. In the same role. Yeah. I just like it. They have the same on Oscars as Leo does. So yeah. No aliens season two.

Alien Earth is confirmed in New York coming. I thank God. It's another one I just never finished. Did you finish that one? I did. Of course. I loved Alien Earth. It was amazing.

We covered it on the geek buddies. So what do you think about no season two? I don't like that it wasn't confirmed for sure. But I hope it will come back. Yeah, I am two flight games. It's all of this. Renetta, W. You're right. Tron, Humans Who? Let out good.

That movie was serving straight visuals. So, a visual fire. It was. Bring on Predator Badlands if it keeps that primal energy. I mean, that's another one. I watched one. I haven't watched any other. I'm going to see it, obviously. But I'm not pumped for it yet. I hope.

Because I didn't realize that. Someone said, I'm glad that Christian liked Roof Man, because he kind of dismissed it in the fall movie preview. I have always said that. Look, I don't hold heart. to stances of like if I think some like if I'm not interested well I'm never going to be interested in it the movie's good I'm gonna tell you it's good if like same thing look I as I mentioned phelonium million times over yeah I hope that I come back and I go man that he learned from those mistakes and

oscar season two was great I don't want to just sit there and go ah same old bad writing same stuff I feel like that's what I'm going to say but I hope I'm wrong um comic book movie guy Sorry, comic movie gun. If people believe Cosmic Book News article and gun, you might also find my asshole. It is. It says gun isn't going anywhere. It's good.

That's good. Like I said, whether or not the confirmation of me have going to be gone is true or not is one thing. The situation that is presented that Warner Brothers could be bought and the power that be are having these conversations is a story that should have that should be had that that was worth discussing yes 100% C.J thoughts on Liverpool this season Roka

Well it's you know it's been a tough last three games we lost all three games but listen these people going crazy you have to assimilate these players into the system it takes a little bit of time we spent a lot of money but the season isn't over and we're only one point off the top so yes it's a little troubling but

we've got a long way to go. All right. Next one. And that is Matt Sinister McHale, watching Christian later on Spotify. Thank you very much. Having a task marathon. There you go. Pelfrey is the best.

He really is. Also, Christopher Columbus sucks. Harlow's birthday should be a holiday. No, my mom should be the one that's celebrated. I always say that. I always say that. Okay. Renetta W.

Do you think Zootopia is hitting that billion mark or now? I was sure before, not so much now. They'll nail it with Avatar. The last trailer was insane. Um, I, I'm just going to repeat myself, or not like I always say, never count out kids. Never count them out. There's not enough, not enough for kids to see. So when you get a really good one, if you can take the families out to see it, plus it's just a really good movie.

People love watching them. It's got a shot. The fact that it's, you know, in November is interesting, but we'll see. You think it's, what do you think, John? Do you think it's going to? I'm, I think it has a shot, but I, I, I, I think it has a shot. but I don't know. I really don't know the power of Zootopia.

I thought what that, I thought the second, what's the horror movie with the Megan? I thought that Megan film was going to do way better than it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, you know, you just never know with these things. Nathan Drake, Home Alone 2 made me want to visit New York. That's a good one.

91, John. 91. We are nine away. Nine away from a scoop. Nathan Drake. Didn't Samia do okay numbers? No, didn't. As you predicted.

As you predicted. I know. I know what's going to do well and what's not talking about. There are sometimes that I'm like, you know, I take a shot, but I knew insomnia was going to do, but that one I, that one I did for the audience. I did that one for the audience. And I did it for the completion of, you know, a lot of the Nolan films. I'm still battling whether or not I'm going to do tenant.

I'm still battling whether I'm going to do Oppenheimer, but I probably will. Dennis Hoffman, Christian, heard anything on Masters Universe? Show my five-year-son, the 2000 series. He digs it in Knight We Trust. I'm hoping. I'm hoping it's going to be, if the leaked image of Skeletor, I, I, I, I, hated that I don't know if it was real or not though I saw a leaked image it looked it looked so stupid um he looked he may look good but it looked so stupid um so i don't know yet dennis i'm i'm

i'm uh i'm i'm cautiously optimistic brandon summers afternoon fellows what's up brain um late to the stream so not sure it's to recover but with rumblings and majors coming back is kang if true what do your thoughts on kang coming back and how he fit so we did talk about it on Friday, I called in when I was walking to the thing. My thought on it is, I think enough time has passed from what happened. The movie is not based on him. I think if they were doing a full movie on Kang, it would still be tough. I don't think there would be an outcry if you had him and showed how powerful Doom is to show that he could even kind of push, you know, Kang to the side. and I think it's kind of

would help explain things a little more. I actually think they should make it happen. And I think the fact that majors is being coy about it, I think it will happen. Yes. You know, we talked about this last week on GeekBuddy. I think he is coming back.

Because, hey, listen, he did his time. What kind of society are we if we don't accept, we don't convict people, let them do the time, and then welcome them back to try to be functioning, members of society. The fact that you have to wear this scarlet letter of where you could argue, it was a domestic issue between the two of them. God knows, none of us were there. So, yes, it's troubling for sure. But he went to trial. He got a judgment. He did his time. So now he should be, have a chance to come back and play the role. I think it's like wrestling. I think he's

going to come over, come back to put Dr. Doom over. He's going to get beat by Dr. Doom to put him over. And that's that. You kind of have to. You kind of have to. You kind of have to. I mean, if he, if he bitches both Kang and, um, and that's, yeah, he's got a show like this guy is like the ball. Um, all right. Let's see. Next one after that. And we've got Trey Porter RIP to Diane Keaton. I call my mom a media.

My mom was a huge Diane Keaton fan. Someone got to do a checkup on Eastwood and Nicholson. Also, task is my favorite show right now. The latest episode is crazy. Oh my God. Everyone's raving about this last episode. I got to see it. I love that show.

I love that show. it's so damn good John I love it um okay Dennis Hoffman Rocky and Creed Eagles best franchise ever in my opinion yes it's a good opinion to have I like it sinners looking more like Oscar's favorite I you know when it came out as it's two it's April

it's a vampire movie I don't know the love that it has it's sustained I think it lands there whether does it win I don't know but I think it lands in the in the nomination talk One of the most surprising moments on the hot mic was last week when Jeff Snyder himself said, I might have been wrong about Sinners, Oscars chances. Wow.

I didn't see that coming ever. I'm saying that? Eat it. Oh, yeah. Amazing. That tells you. Okay. Let's see after this.

Dennis Hoffman, who says, remember Skeleton crew? Amazing director is making cool movies, but I totally forgot I watched it. Watts needs something big post this and wolves. Yeah, I don't think it'll hurt him because people that people that did watch that show liked it. Yeah. It's just nobody watched it. Yeah.

Mad Sinister McAll, Frank Rillo dancing and peacemaker intro is gold. Yeah, he looks like he doesn't, he's laughing at the end of it. He's laughing. I always root for him. Always root for him. Yeah, I love Frank. Russell Amador lost me in the finale when the little monster face, F the guy with the hell. Oh, that was real what you were talking about?

Oh, yeah. That was so James Gunn, wife wonders what's wrong with me? Yeah. That's, yeah, that sounds. terrible. Geek Loadsars. Hope you guys are doing well. John, have you started Ghost of Yotia? You said you have, right? Yeah. Also, my dolphins, mediocre per usual. Can't wait for that interstellar reaction. Yeah. Yeah, Yote's a little different than Sushima. So it's much more dense. So I'm taking my time through it and not rushing it with Shishima. I was like full ahead,

full steam ahead. This one a little more cautious. So I want to grasp everything that's happening. There's a lot. So yeah, but I'm loving it. It's amazing. All right. Let's see. Keep it going. going here. We are, sorry, I'm around with a tab. All right, 95. Come on, guys. We're five away from getting that scoop. I got to go soon. All right, hold on. We got to finish the questions.

Kevin Steincount, John's spoiled peacemaker finale of Christian. I just want to hear how you describe the nonsense to him. No, I'm not going to do. That's all right. Don't do that. That'll sound like you're bitter. David Gerdaio. Just wanted to get my thoughts, because I feel peacemaker season two is get unfairly beaten. I enjoyed it.

It's fair. Okay. Yeah, I tell you. I mean, there are people who John said, there's people who definitely dig it. Dennis Hoffman, will WB have the most nomses Oscars? Yeah, they seem like they have everything. They're leading everything this season this year, so why not? Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. Although Avatar may get a lot of nomination, so we will see. I love Anthony, but this is idiotic comment.

Why didn't they show the whole plot in the teaser? That's the stupidest thing that you've ever written. You've written some dumb ones, Anthony. I love you to death. That's the stupidest comment I've ever seen you read. Why is Chank Your Avatar? That guy's... wait, why did they? No, when they show the, the, the aspect that he has powers to let people know it's a comic book movie, you, you, you, deedle. John Darius, by the way, guys, I watched Superman return yesterday since 2006. Love that compared to guns. I felt mature in story and performances. Am I crazy or does look visually better than 2025? No, I don't, I think there's more to the 2025, one to be honest. If they would have taken what they had in that essence of that plane scene and carried that to the rest of the movie, then yes.

You're crazy. Superboy was so stupid. Kate Bosworth was horribly miscast as Lois Lane, and Kevin Spacey was just essentially tracing Gene Hackman's performance. It is not a good movie. I don't know why people love it past the airplane scene. It makes no sense. Three away from the scoop. Matt Sinister McAll, Beth Snyder, James got a new drummer for Foxy.

She's like, perfect. 97 right now. Orca, 447. When I made my box office comment, I was looking at the worldwide, not the message. I should have clarified. I'm sorry. No, it's all good. Yeah.

Dennis, Wonder Man looks cool, but all episodes drop. Yeah, and that's the problem. Yeah, the madness they said that they're trying to take advantage

it would have with Wanda video. That's so stupid. Nathan Drake, Tanya loses sympathy when she kills that guard. Yeah, quick, quickly. Dingus McNally.

All right, guys, with only two months left of the year, what would you guys say been your favorite movie and TV show of 2025 so far? Oh, it's so hard.

I don't know. I got, I can't, I can't tell you. I mean, I'm telling you, Roofman's up there. Roofman's up there.

It's up there. I don't know yet. I don't know. And as far as TV show, Task. Task, okay. Yeah. I would say one battle for sure. TV show I need more time.

Also up there. Okay. Armada. Saw that Nasre, Qua, Slick, Rick, ghostface and we're at a panel of a comic account. Oh, I love this. You know, promoting a comic there from Marvel. Oh, that, shoot, I wish I would have known about that.

I didn't look at any of the panel. So what was going on. Jalen Frazier, it looks like the gun haters are having a few good days. If a season finale that people are mixed on is having people question them, then it's cooked. I mean, again, let's see what. happens what it's it john said it earlier it's a it's a what have you done for me lately town ralph when you watch one battle on the channel who will it be with and i think that's the best way for your second rewatch probably it probably it's probably going to be sam most likely who'd be

um moises gutieras do you think there's a chance to come up a movie oh wait comic movies won't be in the international box of us top 10 this year for me it would be a sign of cb now international is very very possible yeah yeah yeah very There's none of them really blown up international, including super many. All right, John, we hit that 100. So what's the scoop? Where is it? I don't see it.

What? We did it. We hit it. Okay. Plus the seven. Remember we missed seven? All right, here we go. So there is a movie coming out called Spider-Man Brand New Day.

And as you know, I have broken, regardless of what the Nexus point news wants to believe, I have broken the details on Punisher and the Hulk being in Spider-Man brand-new day. Jeff broke the details that X-Men is coming right after Endgame, but from what I'm hearing here, you mean, you mean Secret Wars. Sorry, Secret Wars, right, exactly. What I'm hearing, though, is that

the Punisher will have a sidekick in the Punisher, in the Superman brand new day, I'm sorry, the Spider-Man brand-new day, and it will be a black actress. And a lot of people are speculating who this could be, and for those of you who are big Combook nerds, I have a feeling this is going to be

Rachel Cole Alves, and they're going to find someone who is going to play this character because she is a really strong character in the Punisher universe, and if you're going to do that Punisher special, which has just finished rapping, I think this is going to be an interesting character

to throw into the world of Combooks if, or, sorry, Marvel movies, if she is going to be his sidekick. So it's a female sidekick, but I hear they're looking for a black actress to play the female sidekick, and I'm thinking Rachel Cole Alves would be the character that they'll be doing. She's a vigilante and an anti-hero, and Greg Rucker created her.

So, interesting to add her to the mix of the whole situation. That's good. All right, so you can't, well, you have to run. You can't finish these questions? How many more we got? We got about, let's see, I'm at one, I'm at the point of the show. We're at 144, so let me double check. You tell me when it's the absolute when you got to run.

Okay, 1130 at the latest. Oh, no, we'll be. Oh, we'll be that way. Scuba Steve, I highly recommend Marvel movies watch along with Sam. I can't do it. I can't watch it. I have no interest in that, Scova. I'm sorry.

I have no interest in it. Some of the best MCU TV in ages, four 30-minute episodes, easy to smash out. You would say, I doubt that I would love it. I'm sorry, scuba. Don't be mad at me. I have no, I have absolutely no interest in that show. Yeah, I liked it. I liked the show, but yeah, I did.

I really enjoyed it. But yeah, I hate you. uh francisco lopez hey do you know of zazov selling the world warner brother's discovery or just one with both also which two do you think will get wb i mean it looks like paramount yeah yeah um armada jack o'connor nom for sinners i'd like to see it i don't see it happening but i'd love to see it yeah i think michael p for sinners i mean it kind of if you're gonna do anything for that movie you kind of have to me right ryan coogler director but like He's so good at making, like, he created two different characters.

He's what I'm saying. A hundred percent. Like, I, yeah. Eric Slavey, good or bad, what's your most surprising film this year? Easy for me. Or even performance in a film. Roofman is the most surprising film this year. Okay.

Hands down. I can't believe, like, I knew the weight that was off my shoulder once, I can picture the moment in my head when I was walking to the theater and I looked down and I go, who directed it? I'm walking through it. Derek seen France. Oh my God. My expectations went up so much for the movie once I sat down. So that's what's your what's your most surprising film, John? I don't know. After the hunt tonight? Yeah, after the hunt tonight. Yeah, 100%. Various Militude. Hey guys, always love your show. Thank you. Do you think with the proposed buyout, we could see the Snyderverse return even just for one movie?

personally i love gun superman and i love the center that report seems to say no and then i i think they they need to you don't want to open up that can of worms again i don't think yeah no and look the report made it clear that that was a possibility in the past but it also made it clear that they've moved on from it and rightfully so because all the actors you know especially henry cabal you're not going to mess with emotions and bring him back like that's you can't jerk these actors around or gauadote like i just think they wouldn't come back it just wouldn't make sense to bring them back. Harves K.

For best supporting, as of now, I would love to see David Johnson for the long walk. He's pretty good in that. He is good. Madigan and weapons to get nods. I'm very excited to see what kind of, what kind of nominations we get this year. Jeff bet me three beers that Champan would not get nominated.

What? Can I be in on that too? I didn't say. Winning, winning, I don't know who he's going up against you. Right, right, right. But I think nominated? Yeah. He doesn't think he's getting nominated.

nominee? Text him and ask him if I can be in the bet too. I want to be in the bet too. Well, quick plug, we're doing a show tonight at 5 p.m. PT for an hour, so I will ask him that live. Tell him I would like to be part of that action as well. Brandon Summers. If you all haven't seen as Hey S.

Rogue Heroes of Jack O'Connell put on your watch on season two was so damn good. He's great. He's a great actor. And he's really, really good. So I haven't checked that out. Did you check that out? Broca. I don't even know what that is. No, no.

Ralph! So Josh Safdi was more talented, Marty Supreme. I hear Marty Supreme is excellent. Right. Well, we don't know yet because we haven't seen it. I heard it's excellent. Yeah. A lot of people said it's good.

Yeah, the buzz on that movie is, that's another one. That's another one that before you start giving all the everything to one battle, that one's coming up quick. Yeah. A lot of people saying Chalomey will be the other time. Yeah. Brandon Summers, Roka, both seasons of interview with a vampire slap. I heard that they were good.

Good, those seasons. Renetta, support, let's go team, pushed his hard to hit the big. We did it, we did it. And then a follow-up. Thank you. Renetta, with two of those. We crossed it. We're currently at 103.

So Eric Sleby, I like Flonny's stories and lore philosophy in Star Wars, but his overall writing isn't good. I agree with that. I totally agree with that. His story, his story senses and his philosophy in Star Wars and his overall tone of how but the religion of it, I agree with you, Eric, a thousand percent. Yeah.

Someone should write his stories. Lucasl needs a head who makes things like Andrew, but it's also forced lore stuff. Yeah. Same page, Eric. Ralph, watch Skyfall in 4K last night. Good God, I've never seen cinematography this beautiful in action movie.

Had to Mendez McSpector after that. I mean, Skyfall's pretty awesome. Skyfall's the greatest one yet. And how dare you come for Spector, man? You clearly didn't get it. I like Spector. You know, I expect it. Ralph.

Again, thoughts on four brothers with Marky Mark. I haven't seen it in so long. Yeah, I haven't seen it in so long. Isn't Sophia Vergara in that one, too? Maybe, yeah. What's Garrett Headlands, one of the brothers? I forgot that he was the other white brother. He gets whacked, isn't he?

He gets whacked. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a remake of Stun's a Katie Elder. Watch that way. Brandon Summers, I still love Star Wars. I suppose I'm still in that positive group. You're not, though. I've had conversation with you before.

You're not. You're still, you're still. you, loving Star Wars is not overly positive. If you love it, I love it. I am not as positive about it right now. Maybe you are, but like you still, but I can obviously see the things that need to change. That's, that's not, you're not,

the overly positive is like, nothing's wrong. Everything's great. Oh, no, no, no, I love that. Here's why I love PLD to death. PLD is in that positive group. Yeah. He lives in that group. I can't believe he said,

he's never found anything wrong with Star Wars. That's insane to me. Did he say that? He put it in the chat. That's what I'm saying. PLD is, I love him to death. It's one of my favorite people in the world. He's out there with the flags.

Everything is great with Star Wars. It's not. It's in dire straits. And it's, but the good news is PLD and other people that are in that group. Yeah. When the leadership changes, they'll love everything that the new leadership gives too. But that's the whole thing is that you can be, you can, you should have if you're, if you're, if you're, he's, look, we'll dealD is also a Red Sox fan. So he also knows.

that when you go through years, he's more critical on his Red Sox team. He should be more critical of Star Wars away because he's, I love him to death, but I disagree with it. He loves everything that they do with Star Wars. Why is he a Red Soxman? Maybe he's from Houston.

No, he's from, he's from, like, New York. He's in New York, a real upstate New York. He's a Red Sox fan from New York. The Upstate, yeah, D-U-I champ. Hey, guys, I tried watching the new interview with the Vampire series. I made it to the point where Lestat has, so the young guy takes a blind in the air, bites him just too much. Sure enough. Not for

everybody. I didn't see the show, so I don't know. I don't know. Eric Slaby, this is a great one. It made the vampire sex too realistic. I couldn't watch it. We didn't like it. That's all right. Eric Slate, midnight in Paris made me want to visit Paris. That's a good one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. CJ, binge adolescence

and mobland over the weekend. I've got to see that adolescence. CJ, go see somebody after one. I know. It's a deep one. It's a deep one. Bail should have listened to Leo before doing Thor, love and farts. Ralph and maybe maybe that's when he should have given up on it for sure but he was the best part about that i think they did the great job of the bill was the best part about it uh Seattle

K.O support thank you singis mcdaly throwing in some more support there thank you very much uh eric slaby also says definitely minority but i'm not a huge interstellar fan how many times have you seen it because when i saw for the first time i was like i don't know i'm not sure that's why i don't care people who say like oh if you don't get the movie the first time it's not a good movies you're insane some movies your mind can't quite grasp at the time after this one brandon says ban eric immediately christian unpronounceable 100 what's the scoop john oh he told us new uh new character yes you do i used to people speculating it could be misty night that's very popular that's going to my guess is rachel cole albus but it could be missed the night cbishop people complain about a dull

and stagnant marble but then get upset when dc tries to do something different superman at peacemaker it's not something different though there's difference between something different And like, I think the problem is you get too locked in with James Guns jokes and tones and all that stuff too. I just think it's such a ridiculous argument. People are like, no one's going, give me something different. I don't care if it's good or not. No one is saying that. If you want to do something different, great.

The inherent understanding is do something different that's good. That's the difference, you know, and you're trying to remove the judgment of the quality of it, if that's not somehow an important part of the equation. So I hate that. It's such a, I hate that argument sometimes. Haskell 420. Is up guys. Christian, hope all is okay by you with this storm. So far, so good.

I'm a mile from the beach on L.I. Sound with eight foot waves. Holy moly. Usually one foot, two feet. That's crazy. I hope you're all right. John Candy, Doc, I like me is on prime. I saw that, yeah, I saw that the drop last night.

Yeah, dropped last night. Make sure you got a box of tissues. I heard that it was really solid. But yeah, I mean, that one, that's going to be a tough one to watch me. I loved him so much. Mack, Prugman, Tash generally is the best show in years. I've been just what we've been saying. Got caught up and saw what you two were joking about last week from episode four.

Hilarious. No one pisses like that. That was such a great moment. Such a great moment. He's so good. He's so good. Okay, we're at 104. Wow.

Right now. 104. And now, hey, Mr. CJ. I forgot the actor from Tron Legacy is now in Tulsa King, which, oh, you're at you. yeah, yeah, Garrett Headlitt. Oh, right. Yes, yes. Well, yeah, because Garrett, they tried to make Garrett a thing and it didn't quite work out. So Garrett is now doing that. So, you know, it's the way. All right. So, John, before we go, okay, cool. Let this fool defend himself.

What do you love today? What are you loiling my eyes? What do you love today? I will say this. Where's your Poloni flag? I didn't say I love everything. What I said was I have found stuff to enjoy. joy about those. That's not what you said. Bring up his fun. I said, I said, I didn't, I didn't have never hated anything. I don't hate anything. That's what I said. Now my comment was, I don't hate anything. And that's true. I've enjoyed every project to a degree. I will fully admit that this discord. What kind of position is that? I liked everything. Fuck, I could say that all I'm saying, all I'm saying, what's the point of your opinion? I can have a great opinion about

that. I can agree that there's something needs to change. And I can say that you don't like something. I can you don't like something. You don't like something. You don't like something. You don't a lot of shit. You can't really a lot of shit. That's fine. I don't think ever. I like everything. I enjoy. I enjoy things. I'm not a hater, but I'm not out there saying, oh, everything is great. Everything is the best thing ever. Oh, my God, this movie is the best thing ever. I'm not saying that. All I'm doing is the classic thing where you play both sides. I'm playing both sides. How am I playing both sides? How is that playing both sides? Because you're saying, I like everything. I like everything Star Wars to a degree. I have enjoyed things. I've sat down and watched something. I go like the accolade. I like the

stranger stuff. I enjoyed that. I didn't think it's the greatest. Well, listen, everyone can say there are good scenes. But then you're not at Alice through critical. What I know. But somebody else I was saying, everybody's out there saying he loves everything. I don't say I love everything. I don't say I love everything. I like every Red Sox season to a degree. What the fuck is logic in that? I mean, it doesn't make any sense. I don't like. I enjoy the best. Guys, we got to do this more. often. And with peacemakers bullshit.

Get out of here. There was no converting expectations. Everybody wants the big cameo. You're by James Gunn't. No, no, no. That's the PLD. I didn't even see the show. And that's not the, I think that's the easy argument.

I wanted a cameo. That's not, that's not, that's not, hold on a second. Hold on a second. That's not what I saw from the majority of the stuff of the criticisms was not the cameo stuff. It was about the fact that they didn't build up to those emotional moments correctly. They didn't do them effectively enough. they copped out by having really good actors

who delivered really good emotional moments in those scenes but the way they built to those scenes did not have logic or any sense of form and you're like oh subverting expectations bullshit like 2% of people wanted Superman or suits or whatever nonsense you guys are saying bullshit a majority of people didn't like the finale because it didn't work to effectively bring those emotional moments some you get out of because you like it to a degree

No, I think the flag stuff was not good for me, but I think the Smith and the hardcore stuff worked very well for me all the season. And it's still, I thought it was a great finale like that. They didn't have a big action-packed finale. That's why I didn't. I think people that I saw it. No one cared about action. They wanted somebody. That's what I read that.

I enjoyed the emotional moments. I thought they were earned. I thought the emotional ones between Christmas and Harcourt were little very earned and between Abadea and the Gillian-Refine fun moments. I thought it was a good, solid finale. I don't have. Compared to season one? No. You had two scenes with his wife, with her girlfriend,

the wife, the whole fucking season. And then we have this incredible moment with them in the scene. You're like, where did you build up to it? Why didn't you give us multiple scenes with her, with them together? I'm talking about the Chris Smith and hardcore stuff. Yeah, but even the Smith and hardcore stuff, it was a kiss. That's it. That's all, that's emotional for hardcore.

That's what the whole point is. That's because she's not emotional at all. And that's the thing is you presented them both as these people who have. issues with the people they have sex with you chris in the first season he was a depraved sexual monster right in the second season you show hardcore having sex with uh or having yeah having sex with rick flagg junior who is with enchantress so she is willingly engaging in a cheating situation so the sex for them is tainted if they had sex together and made love that would have been much more powerful than a fucking kiss it was a cop out to go with the kiss look look how cute i am i'm gonna be

really elevated and make the kiss mean something it's like no as much as as much as I absolutely loved this segment I want to do it again what I can't what I can't say is that I can't I can't add anything to the peacemaker's so I didn't see it so it's not fair to me to take aside here what I can say is purely love everything about Star Wars you really you really you love everything to a degree all right uh the guy does I can't I can't tell you how many times have been on a like there's he says you find something positive about everything, but it's like, but it's like, what, I've had the conversation where I've gone, you know, well, what about this?

I kind of like that. What about this? That I kind of like that. Stop it. Yeah, exactly. I love, but, but I will say, one of the greatest human beings you're ever going to meet. He's a great guy.

I love people. He's the sweetheart of a human being. He started this. He hated me from the beginning because of, he doesn't eat you at all. He just likes to watch you lose. All right. So, all right, guys, thank you for joining us here today. I appreciate John.

Thank you. John. Where can they find you? At the Roker says, everyone on social media and my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roker says, please head on over there so close to 40,000. Get us across the line. And tonight, 5 p.m. PT, Snyder and I going live for an episode of the hot mic. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Christian. Thanks, PLD. Have a great day, everybody. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for joining us today. I appreciate it.

Thank you for PLD for joining us. Thank you for John, obviously, being here. Thank you, you guys. 105 here today on the show. We're back tomorrow with Roxy. And I may be Mike. I don't know yet. There's a possibility the show might start a little later because I'm shooting Interstellar in the morning with Sam. So just a matter of when we finish that. And I want to jump on and make sure that is a possibility to be late. That's it. Thank you for being here. I appreciate you. Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. You guys are great.

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