The Kristian Harloff Show - RUMOR! No Wolverine in first MCU X-Men movie?! | Jennifer Esposito Interview

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

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Does anyone know if these lives are pre-recorded and posted or actually live? Hopefully that gives you your answer to your question. Welcome back, everybody, to the Christian Harlov show. And today, I've got a big rumor. That's right. Wolverine is a big staple in the X-Men franchise. Well, there's a rumor out there that says that he will not be part of the MCU's first X-Men movie. Is that a smart move?

Is that a dumb move? we will talk about that and more on the show today. And we have Jennifer Esposito talking about her new movie. So it's going to be a fun live show. Get your questions in now. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It is the Christian Harlow show.

I'm very, very excited to have everybody here today. So make sure if you aren't already subscribed to the channel, you should be. And put your questions in there. Basically what we do is we do the super chats at the end of the show. now we've been doing it right now we both you know it'll be hilarious we'll see if it happens but roxy and brett hold the record i think at 47 questions for one stream thus far beating rocas 43 from the other day a 48 they might have um i would love to beat them all by myself we'll see if that happens right now the big fat goose egg so it doesn't look like that's going to happen just yet so we

are going to discuss these topics today on the show and we got a ton to talk about and honestly there was a, and we'll talk about the Colin Farrell Penguin thing and some other things and I want you guys I'm excited for you guys to hear the interview with Jennifer Esposito talking about her new movie and of course you know her from Crash and the boys and other things but let's get to this first one man this is this rumor

about Wolverine and this is a big story it's a big story if it is indeed true so here it is and it is the X-Men Wolverine Where am I? Where am I? Here I am.

X-Men Wolverine, it doesn't look like he's going to be in the movie, but it also looks like Hugh Jackman will continue on. So let's get to this topic over here from comic book movie. All right, the X-Men rumor may reveal that the MC reboot team and surprising plans for Hugh Jacks and Wolverines. Spoilers, I mean, if it's true, so we don't even know. Kevin Feigey assured fans that an X-Men reboot was in. in the work shortly after Disney acquired 20th Century Fox assets back in 2019. We've only recently begun to get some official updates on the project. Michael Leslie is set to pen the script, and while the director has yet to be announced,

the studio is believed to have begun meeting with filmmakers and development is expected to kick into a higher gear in 2025. For now, all we have is rumors, but if these latest claims from Daniel Rickman proved to be accurate, fans might be very surprised by Marvel's plans for the mutant heroes and more specifically Wolverine. According to the Scooper, the MCU X-Men reboot will not feature Wolverine at all, and the team will be similar to the X-Men 97 animated series with some other characters added to the mix. Apparently, Logan will not be on the roster because Hugh Jackman will be sticking around for quite a while, possibly even post-Avanger's Secret Wars. Jackman, staying on the iconic Claude Mutant is not that surprising after the massive success of Deadpool and Wolverine,

but not including Logan and the rebooted team is a choice that might not sit very well with fans. though comment book readers will likely see this as the right move, they've wanted more focus on the other characters for years. Wolvey is clearly still a huge draw for general audiences. During a recent interview with discussing film, Fai Yu was asked how it feels, knowing that we're closer to seeing the X-Men and Avengers together on the big screen, to which he says,

it is an extremely emotional on a personal level to have done a movie with Hugh after 25 years and being small part of that first X-Mov movie and knowing that thanks to various corporate studio entity deals, we now have 1,000 of the characters back. Characters I hadn't, frankly, thought about in many years because we didn't have the rights to them. Now that we do, it is fun thinking about who we can finally.

Our animated series, X-Men 97, was sort of the first taste of people reuniting with the X-Men mythology and that storyline. The response to that series just further excited us about how to bring the soap opera and the saga of the Mutants to the MCU. The Cosmic Circus, Alex Perez, believes that the groundwork will be laid for an eventual Avengers versus X-Men Project in the upcoming reboot

and Avengers movies, but we won't actually see both super teams clash on screen for quite a while. So, all right, this is interesting. Okay. So let's say, Daniel Wickman's pretty good. Track record is decent. Let's, it would make sense

if this is where they're going to go, and I think that Mark Cassidy kind of makes this aware in the article. It does put focus, and it doesn't make you rely on Wolverine. I mean, the majority and is one of the biggest complaints about all the X-Men movies from 2000 on was that, oh, here you've got to rely on Hugh Jackman

and Wolverine in order to make this thing really work in order to make people care because they set him up and he was the most intriguing thing. He's always been one of the most intriguing characters in all of X-Men. He was my favorites. He's a lot of people's favorites. So the idea of not having them in

to build up the other characters and then eventually bringing them in with a new actor down the line, it makes sense. It's a risky move. And at first when I heard it, I was like, well, that's stupid because the other reason why is because they're doing it to capitalize off of still having Hugh Jackman around. I get it. I understand it. But most people are probably saying the same thing.

And I'm sure we'll see it a lot in the comments here. It's like, let somebody else play the role. You know, everybody was getting excited when it was like, it wasn't one of these things where it's like, only Hugh Jackman can play it. were excited or whether or not it was going to be Taran Egerton or even Daniel Radcliffe. And then after you see what Henry Cavill did, you're like, oh, this is going to be fun to see somebody else do it. So the excitement of someone else playing it is certainly there.

The idea of why they wanted to keep Hugh Jackman after making this money, and he still wants to do it again. Now he's back and kind of excited and to see him with all these other characters and not get it confused with the new Wolverine end, to not step on the new Wolverine's toes. it makes sense. It does. It makes sense. I don't necessarily mean that I like it, but it makes sense. If you think about it overall, this is something that is a major, major thing for them. As you hear Fagie talking about the X-Men. So if you can give it, you know that eventually they're going to bring them in and they're going to bring in a new X-Men, a new Wolverine.

So if you're able to actually pull it off, the risk is that you don't, pull it off without him. And then it's like nobody cares. Like, where's Wolverine? Nobody cares. And you're still able to kind of bounce back and forth and say, well, we have this Wolverine here. And then if you make more movies with Hugh Jackman and we don't need to see anybody else as Wolverine. He's fine. Do a do a CGI version of him. No one wants. People are going to eventually want a new Wolverine. That'll be fine. But I don't know. I do understand it. I'm so curious to where. people are feeling in the comments section, right?

Because I do feel like there's going to be people like, yeah, you don't give Wolverine a break. Let focus on some other characters. Wolverine is not the only X-Men. There are other X-Men that you really can dive into and give them a time to shine. And then when he does show up, you're like, okay, great, here he is. Now, let's, we didn't need him to make the X-Men special. Because you don't. The X-Men have great characters all the way around.

Wolverine's not the only one. So, yeah, when I first heard it, I said, no, and then I said, yeah, just like that, because it makes sense. It does make sense. So I'm very curious to what all you guys are thinking, if you feel the same way, do you think that this is something, you know, that is going to hurt them if they don't do it? or do you think that now let's focus in on some other people man it's it's it's time to do it it's time to do it uh okay as i said we have a lot to go through today two questions so far coming for you rocks three questions so far coming for your rocks and um i will also tell you that i'm pumped to talk have you guys listen to myself and jennifer esposito talking about her new

movie. It's going, it's fresh kills. It's on Amazon and it's a mafia story. So we're going to discuss that in a little bit. Cool to have another guest in studio. We're doing more in studio guests. We're doing more guests in general. I do have a question for you guys. And let me ask somebody. Whoever puts in the next, you'll let you be the spokesperson. Whoever puts in the next question on super chat, whatever, let me know your opinion on this because I've been doing a few clipouts of the of the show, right, when we do these things? People who kept asking me, when you do clip out sometimes? I can't catch a full show. I like to do clip outs and I've been putting some on there but I also I do have a clips

channel. My thought as I'm walking the dog this morning I was thinking this I think I'm going to put like one or two clips on the main channel per day like one or two and then the rest will go up on the clips channel. That's my that's my thought process to like one or two to let people know oh there's a show today this is what the this is one of the major topics and then that way you guys could see it as shorter clips I think that'll be my strategy moving forward is to do like one or two clipouts on the main channel.

and all the other ones on the clipout channel, and you'll have all the celebrity interview clipouts on that channel also. But, you know, I like hearing from you guys. So let me know. Okay, Tony, you're getting byiskees. You're getting a time out, Tony. See you later.

Come back later if you'd like. So let's get into some other topics, though. We've got other topics coming up. And here we go. Here we go. This is Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice. I only say it twice. He did good this weekend, guys. And it looks like he's going to do pretty good on the next one also. And Beeljuice sequel to rule the box office once again. The Tim Burton directed Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice is expected to drop around 60% in its second weekend at the U.S. domestic box office.

Even so, it will still garner around 44 million, making it the second best second weekend in September behind only the 60 million sophomore Hall of the first It. Between Friday and Tuesday, the film ranked up 126 million domestically and its current rate. It's estimated its domestic run shy of 300 million. Joining them is Blumhouse and Universal's 15 million budget horror thriller Speak No Evil, starring James McAvoy, McKenzie Davis, and Scoot McNary. It's tracking for a $10 million start and has been getting good reviews overall. all. The Dave Batista led action comedy, The Killers game is currently only slated to do around $5 million for its debut weekend. The documentary, Am I Racist, and Sundance Acquisition My Old I-S, is also entering the fray. Next weekend, we will see animated Transformers want

into the market and it will likely take the crown as it's set to be targeting a $40 to $50 million opening. And I can't believe I'm saying this. I hope it makes way more than that. You never would have thought I was going to say that, but I know. Yeah, man. The box office has bounced back significantly. Beetlejuice is doing what we thought it would do. It's going to have a nice little run for itself. Probably we'll tap out around 300 or whatever it might be. And it's done well. It's, I mean, it's not an international movie. It's fairly, it's going to make its money here in the States. And that's what it's going to wind up doing. And having a 60% drop off is fine, considering it's going to have, you know, the second biggest second weekend in the September. So they're going to be happy with that. Warner Brothers are going to be happy.

with that. And then the other movies that are coming out, but like I said, Transformers 1 was probably my biggest surprise of the year. In a million years, I wouldn't have told you that it's one of my favorite movies of the year thus far that it was going to be. I would have seen from seeing that trailer, I didn't even know if I wanted to see it. And it was, I just absolutely loved it. Loved it. Speak No Evil to me was fine. I see it's getting heavy. I mean, I guess if you put it in my review, I haven't done an official score yet, but I would put it over the threes. So it would get a fresh for me. So I guess that would add to the 90 something. I'd probably get like a 3.2, 3.3 or something along the lines.

Maybe even, maybe 3.5. It depends on how I feel when I'm reviewing it. But right now, that movie is going to do what it needs to do. It's going to make the Blumhouse money. Blumhouse, I think, is brilliant. I've mentioned this yesterday. I mentioned it again. And that's what the box office is going to look like in this particular week. So very, very curious on how it's going to shape up for the rest of the the year and those are the those are the big hitters I remember somebody said it wasn't roker but it was somebody who said that be able to make a billion I was like you're no chance no chance but it's just not that kind of a movie but it's still a very very popular movie at that people are

going to be asking me I'm sure someone's going to ask me in the comment section if uh if I saw the Venom last dance trailer I did not I didn't see it yet it's it's the final trailer the movie comes out soon I probably not even going to watch it I'm going to see it so now that borderlands wraps it's run with a $31 million gross just did the actual reaction to that with Matt Sarah that's on my channel I got the

trap reaction I just the final edits coming out on that tomorrow morning with my wife and we'll be doing that one so you guys can tune into that if you want to see us reacting to trap and then we got some more oh the Transformers one reviews are in let's see that let's see that let's

let's see what because I'll save am I in the minority Am I the only person to like this movie? Let's see. Okay, Transformer 1 reviews are in. The reviews are here for Paramount Pictures, new animated features, Transformers 1, and so far, the verdict is good. As time of the writing, the film has landed at 93%.

That's what I'm saying. 7.5 out of 10 on Rotten Tomatoes, 7.5. Is that a, that's a 93? That makes it the most well-reviewed Transformers film to date. The film explores the untold origin story of Prime and Megatron, better known as sworn enemies, but once were friends bound, like brothers, who change the fate of Cybertron forever.

Chris Hemsworth, Brian Tyree Henry, voice Prime and Megatron, respectively in what marks the first ever fully CG animated Transformers movie. Also, in the cast are Scarlett Johansson, Kegan Michael Key, John Hamm, Lawrence Fispern, and Alpha Trian. Alpha Trio. That's Alpha Trio.

Alpha Tria is actually in the movie. And Steve Busemi. Let's see. Besides the raucous de rigor action, Sequences, Transformers, One provides numerous witty jokes of both the verbal and visual variety and surprise, surprise, genuine emotion. Agreed.

The rarity of a franchise film that seems principally concerned with appealing to a new generation is more in line with the legacy of the original series and any film that has come since. Agreed. While still delivering the fun and excitement expected of Hasbro's metamorphosing robots, Transformers 1 approaches to well-known characters with a degree of nuance and complexity that makes the most sophisticated on-screen portrait of them to date. Agreed. A fun reminder of why we all like the robots who are more than meets the eye and the

first place doesn't touch the artistic crossover heights of spider verse or mutant mayhem but that does mean it is it doesn't mean it's not pretty done great agreed i don't know about me i think it's better than mutant mayhem i think it's better than mutant mayhem i don't know if it's i like transformers better than spider man but i don't know if it's a better i mean i'm just saying in general but i don't know if it's better than spider verse transformers one channel's of joy the first brought audiences to this universe back in the 80s and proves there's still good stories left to tell agreeing with everyone. Here's Jermaine. This is my buddy. Transformers one easily wipes away the bad taste. 20 years of live action transformer movies may have left for some. It's big, it's beautiful,

and it's already the best Transformers movie ever. I'm with you, Jermaine. I'm with you. And Alonzo fills in the backstory for the legendary robots in disguise, but there's a little here for viewers who are coming with no investment in this universe cinematic or otherwise. Stop it, Alonzo. I love you, Alonzo. I love you more than anything. One of my favorite people in the world, but you stop this. You stop this, Alonzo. And I would tell you this if I was sitting in front of you at any screening. I love you, Alonzo. It's my favorite people in the world. There's so much. There's so much. But I'm so excited. I'm so excited. 93%. And it looks like I'm kind of doing, I'm kind of, you know, on the same page as everybody else.

God, I loved this movie. I want to see it again. Hey, I get you props to a fan Nimmator 101, who's been in the chat like a madman telling everybody to see Transformers One saying, Hey, Arloff, I hope you're, you're going to eat your words. And I said, and I told you. I said, look, I don't even know yet. I'll tell you what you were right about. You were right about one thing is you said the thing about, you kept saying, you're going to be wrong, you're wrong.

I said, look, the first time I saw the trailer, I said, this thing stinks. I want nothing to do with this. And then I saw more stuff on it. And I go, oh, this is for kids. It's just going to be for kids and aim it for like, you know, six-year-olds. No, that's where I was wrong. And that's where you were right. This is a full, as the review said, it's a full-on,

Transformers Lord Heart, Humor, everything. I'm so glad that everybody is on kind of the same page here. I thought it was great. I thought it was a really great movie. One of my favorites of the year. What of my favorites of the year? Who the hell thought I was going to say that? One of my favorites of the year.

Holy moly. Holy moly. Can't believe it. Can't believe it. All right. Last one before we get to the interview. Right now, we're at seven questions. I'm coming for you, Rocks.

I'm going to take the title today. No, I'm not. Farrell, done with the penguin. makeup. That's the headline. That was what I was going to lead with until all this other crazy stuff dropped too. But Colin Farrell is just sick of the makeup of Penguin. Because HBO is set to premiere its Batman spin-off series, The Penguin, next week. The eight-episode series set after the events of Matt Reeves film. It is in the wake of the death of Carmine Falcone and with parts of Gotham City still somewhat flooded, a turf war breaks out for supremacy

over the city's underworld. This focus of the series is on Colin Farrell's Oswald Copperpot, The Penguin, a role which requires the actor to dawn nearly four hours of makeup a day to play a character who looks drastically different from him. The process took a toll on the Irish actor who tells Total Film Magazine that he's not sure about returning to the role for a potential second season as right now he's over it. He said, I don't know, man, don't get me wrong, I loved it, but it got on me a little bit. By the end of it, I was bitching or moaning to anyone who listened to me that I effing wanted it to be finished.

He said he tried to remind everyone that despite his grumpiness, he was all grateful and he really did feel privilege for the role and discussed his love of Burgess, Meredith, and Danny DeVito's prior interpretations. Overall, he called it a really powerful experience. However, by the end of the filming, he was done with the makeup and so wouldn't talk about coming back

for a second season for a long time. Lauren, Lefron, said, look, if I can find a way that makes sense, would you talk about it? And I said, absolutely, maybe in a year I would, but when it was finished, I was like, I never want to put that effing suit on and then effing head on again. Farrell will be donning the suit again next year

when the Batman Part 2 begins filming, though his role will be notably smaller than it is in the TV series. So, look, this is one of those things where you're in the thick of it, and you're doing this every day, and you're over it. But guess what else? The show hasn't aired. If the show is as good as it looks like it's going to be, and people are raving again about this performance and want to see another season,

and HBO comes knocking on the door a little bit more, and says, take this truck of cash, Colin Farrell, put the suit on. He's going to do it. Right now, he doesn't want anything to do with it because the show hasn't aired. It's too fresh, and he doesn't want anything to do with it. He'll do it again. But it's, yeah, it's got to be horrible. And especially when you look at the fact you can't even recognize this guy.

This is a good looking dude. Couldn't even recognize him in this role in that movie. Like, I remember watching my wife and she's like, who is that? That's Colin Farrow. What? Yeah. She hasn't even seen the whole time. by the way she only saw a little bit i'd probably do a rewatch with her she seemed like five minutes of

um but she saw the trailer she saw him she's like this is uh i can't believe that's him nobody you didn't know it i watched you're watching that movie you can't tell you disappears in it but it's got to be exhausting but you got to get him back i mean especially if you know you're going to do he doesn't need to have a huge role in the matt reeves thing especially if you're going to see this but this show is as big of a hit as you think it is going to be or could be you got to get him back. But yeah, that's, that's got to be, that's going to be really rough. It's got to be really rough to continue to put that on four hours a day, man, four hours a day. And then you got to shoot. I was just, I just watched the David Chase documentary, watched the last night, both parts.

I highly recommend it. It's great to watch, especially if you're a Sopranos fan, but, and just the stuff that they were doing, you listen to how, that took its toll on, on Gandelfini every day, being the lead of his show and the things that he was doing. He wasn't wearing four hours of makeup and not only the lead of the show of this thing you're putting on four hours of makeup and it's probably just you you probably just pissed off probably helps through the performance to just be angry all the damn time but who the hell wants that i don't i don't blame them for getting frustrated i can't i i do not and it's funny because i was thinking this last night i was watching this documentary and you're talking about like because you always see people who don't

understand how sets and all the things were like what do these actors complaining about it's not hard work yeah okay listen listen to what gandlefini had to go through with the stuff that he had to do and how many like the long 13 to 15 hours that he's got to consistently do and then he's got to go home and he's got to memorize all this stuff like i hate memorizing stuff i had to use to memorize freaking things for fandango and i hated it i hated it i hated it so much these then we tiffy and i would do our show together and i would if you're tired and you got your brain's got to do you got to memorize these long monologues and things not to mention the emotions you got to put behind it. It's a lot. And people go, who cares? You know, try working in a factory.

I understand the labor stuff. And I understand that. But it's not, it doesn't mean that there's not exhausting stuff that goes into other jobs where you don't have to do, you know, work with your hands. And a lot of it's acting, sometimes you even have to do that. The action stars and all of that stuff, too. And there's a lot. And the emotions that he had to go through. So the emotions that Colin Farrell is going through and the stuff that he's got to be able to do, I feel for the guy. I do. I think he'll come back to. them. They can't afford to lose them. They just can't afford to lose them. I think that's, you know, they'll do whatever they can to keep them in there. But all right, I ask you guys, what do you think? Do you think this is something that we should be worried about or it's just, no, he's just pissed off

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How could he not? Thank you for being here today. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited. You know, there's so many different things as I was, thank you again for telling me

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the whole family is they start in, well, Brooklyn to Staten Island and then that's you. That is. You started in Brooklyn. So let's start with that. Tell me about,

growing up in Brooklyn and how long it took before your family took you there and then how that kind of incorporated into this script um uh have have an older sister so when my family said we're moving to Brooklyn and I was I was probably eight and my sister seven years older than me so she was a teenager and she was just like I am not going I was like me neither you know it's like I knew nothing But there was such a it felt like the country Because growing up in Brooklyn We're playing in the street and it was like car You know every five second car and we and you know you'd sit on the stoop

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So that is very reflective of the beginning of the movie. But as I got older and grew up and started to go into like, you know, high school. and realizing, of course, not realizing it then, because it was all just my world, but realizing it now what I was surrounded by. And I was surrounded by mafia families, and I was in school with the daughters. And they're a vicious bunch.

Of course. I mean, teenage girls, as it is, pretty vicious. Well, when they think that they have, like, ultimate power. They did. They did. I have to say they did because there was no rules for them. There was just, there was none. So it was, it's something that stayed with me the violence that I saw from them.

And it's something that I stayed with me, the rage that I saw with them. So growing up and running from these girls and being frightened and realizing, that wow well I guess it's because their dads are doing what they're doing but then it's staying with me I didn't know why and it would stay with it stayed with me throughout my my early life and then my career and I was like why would I keep thinking about this story and a very big why person quite annoyingly so or have to understand so it stayed with me for a long time and and little by little I kept realizing that the story was saying at me because something in their anger felt like my own

and I didn't understand at first and then realize that, you know, it had nothing to do really with their families that had to do with choice. Sure. They didn't have a choice and they weren't getting out of it. Yeah. So, I mean, that's everything you say that, well, first of all, I relate to it a lot because as I was, my kids right now from going from L.A. and being in that area. And then coming here and seeing where we are in this area,

trees everywhere and it just can't believe, and people, we get, New Yorkers get a bad rap. Oh, yes. Say that we're rude and it's like, no, we're honest. We're honest, we're clear. Yes, clear is, that's a great way. Clear. And there's people have been nothing but wonderful here

and to my family, and my kids are great. And but I also relate to it because I lived in Queens. So I've never lived in the island before. So even now to where, you know, you're talking about when you were a kid, I'm talking about like now for me, it's like, well, this is magic.

land. It's funny because I was driving here and it's like oh look the trees. Yeah pretty yeah. The trees are lovely isn't this lovely. I have a place out east all the way in like the woods which is which is lovely but for me you know I still need that something of the city of like you know and that's it the energy because we were saying like I lived in LA for a little while as well and it was just it was just hard for me there. I didn't I didn't get it for me. I didn't like I want to walk right I want to walk yeah I want to see different people I want to see you know walking down the street I want to see I want to see the leaves fall off the trees

you know see see you don't have that they mean they get good food though good food yeah it's good food now I do miss I mean some there's some great food here no oh my god of course of course of course but there's good food in LA I mean there there's a lot of things that I absolutely did like about it I met a lot of great people but there's just something about it being back that it's and I never knew I was gonna come back so yeah well but I think it relates also to you know the film right it's like yeah where you have this family and then you have your character by the way who's just kind of it reminded me in a lot of these what makes shows like movies like this and shows

like this so I think realistic is that you gotta believe the family oh 100% you gotta be what's going on there and it can't be it can't be stereotypes and it can't and no and it feels like it's it's a real family so and the idea like the protecting of it and no it's not true what they say about your father it's not this and like tell me a little bit about your character and this a where the inspiration came of the character and then be like what she's really telling herself inside of these choices of what you could have done what you really didn't do you know because she keeps bringing up that one thing about the photographer and I know the lie I know so at all of that

um okay so it's a it's a it's a it's a a a lot I'll try and okay so we know this takes place in a mafia world but really it really has nothing to do with the mafia right it really is about choice and it's about the boxes that were put in either born into or put in in society and so there's also underneath that the cycle of that and the cycle of generational trauma and again the mother was born into to a space and and born into a slot and then married into a slot and she wasn't leaving and there's something in that culture i'm saying as an italian-american growing up around italian-americans and staten island is a very loyal and that's wonderful but there's also something like you think you're

better than me because you want to leave and it's like no i just want to leave I want to do something more than what I'm told I should be here, which is like, I remember when I was in eighth grade, I said I wanted to be an actress in my eighth grade yearbook, and I was ridiculed. Oh, I was tortured. Like, oh, you think you're a big shot. And it was like, why?

Because I have a dream. It's a very strange thing. But also I feel that happens with women. And that's where, Francine stems from my character and it's it's she wants the best for her daughter she doesn't have the tools to tell her how to do it so she sticks with this one story that was her like reach outside her world that was like her heyday right and she's hanging on to that for dear life and that's the only tool she has for

her daughter to kind of say you can do more but you realize one of the first scenes that I'm speaking I say you can do more but make sure you don't forget me Right. So it's like, go, I love you and I really do hope, I really love you and I want the best for you. But don't leave me behind. Right. Because if you do, it's like crabs in a bucket. Yeah. Which is, I mean, so many people, men and women have said, I understand that. Like there's been a friend in my life or a family member in my life. And generational trauma is very difficult to break. Yes, it is. And I think, well, that was the thing, though, when you mentioned that, that I think was so telling about her because then when Rose comes up with the idea and she's like, this is what I think is she's confiding. And it seems like you got it all figured out. How sincere is it? Right. How sincere is that? Oh, it's so bad. And I always say, I say, you know, Francine is your biggest supporter and your worst nightmare. And I knew someone like that very intimately. And that is a very scary line to walk with someone.

Because you never know really what's coming at you. And you really, I do believe this person like wants the best, but then there's also a, just tortured too. A jealousy. Oh yeah, yeah, right, right. You know what I mean? It's like I want the best for you,

but if the best actually comes for you, I don't know if I really want the best for you. Exactly, because it goes into, why did you get these opportunities and not me? Right. And it's like this anger. And I teach, I've taught throughout my career, but the last three years I've taught,

just to keep my mind sane from going down this road with this movie, it has been, we don't have enough alcohol to talk deeply about that because it's been torture. So I went back to teaching to just stay in the work because the business isn't about the work necessarily. And I teach, And I also have this thing called I'm sorry monologues, which is just for women. And so women of a certain age, I'm finding, they understand that role with Francine deeply.

Yeah. Because, again, we were in the 80s, late 80s, 90s, the movie. So Francine a little earlier generationally, and it was like just women just did not have the choices. Right. So when they see their daughters having more choices, there's like a, hmm. Right, yeah. Why didn't I get those choices?

And she shows that thread. It's, it's, but Annabella. Oh my God. I mean, her character, obviously. And then she just, her showing up, I always cheer when I see her. She's the best. Totally agree. She's the best.

But let's go away from the character for a second and talk about getting her in the most Getting her in the movie talking about this cast in general because what you did is you cast very well in this movie Thank you And what was also done well was taking people that have been in other Projects where you've got a couple of Sopranos you got you got Tulsa King in there That's right you've got a lot of

Really really solid people here so tell me about the crafting of the movie itself putting it together because you obviously had the story in your mind Since you were a little girl and so now And this is the first time you direct. Yep. So you do all of that, how do you put it all together? Insanely. Yeah, tell me. It's been a road, to be honest.

Listen, people come to me all the time now because I also do writing classes and it's like, someone asked me point blank, how do you know if a story is worth telling? And I said, if you have to ask me that question, it's not period end of story I didn't have a choice like this bitch fresh kills haunted me like it hot it literally when I tell you it haunted me it haunted me like it had to be told it like any time I hit a roadblock in the business which was every other month

anytime I hit a roadblock in my creativity anytime I got depressed of like what am I doing with my life the voice would come supposed to do fresh kills that's because you're not doing fresh kills it was like shut up like I don't know how to do fresh kills yes you do like do it and it was like and it was literally this thing of constantly gnawing at me and I have to say if it wasn't and if you're not forced to tell the story nobody in their right mind would want to go down this road as being an independent filmmaker right it is the most unjust uh exhausting yeah brutal like ugly yeah like it's but magnificent i started right but even during the process like i started an independent

film i love independent film but we did it when i was doing it it was independent film right now you got 824 neon independent film and streaming and give me a break it's like you got millions i was doing movies for 500 grand and like who was holding the boom and who was holding like we got back dressed in the back of a truck it was independent film it wasn't this thing now um and it's it's it's brutal it really is the business part of it making it and getting money and who means what monetarily there's like five women that mean money and maybe 10 men that mean money 10 more than more than 10 probably 15 but and that's how you get funding that's why you keep seeing the same people it's not like oh they're the best right they are the best they're very

good a lot of them are fantastic but all the time right in every role right because they can get movies made that's what that's it that's it because someone goes oh shoot okay no that's that's a that's millions of the package that's part I mean you can't get anything made it's really so it's it's brutal so if if you don't have to tell the story you really don't you shouldn't right unless like you get those people and it's like a guarantee you're gonna make the movie and they're gonna give you exactly and then is it a story you want to tell right and how many cooks are gonna be in the kitchen to you know is that a problem that you fell into was there were there people that were once you got

the financing for that they wanted to kind of change it up I didn't get the financing for you did no I mortgaged my house to do this wow yes oh yes so what happened was okay I kept going and doing these zoom meetings because it was over COVID which was another roadblock I kept going into these zoom meetings and like hey I have a new idea and of all the mafia films we've all seen and love we've never seen the road of the female we've never seen it through the female female female's point of view Never.

Right. And here I am with a different story. Wouldn't everybody be excited? Yeah, they were excited, but like, oh, you're going to direct it? Right. Oh, who's going to be in it? And it was like, and then it was like, okay, we'll give you $5 million if you get a big name. Someone wanted me to get Ethan Hawk.

Okay. And it was like, I love Ethan Hawk. He's amazing. Is he, is he right as Dominic Lumber Dozy? No. No. Dom grew up around this. Like, Dom knows this world. And Ethan is extraordinary, but Ethan would have brought money to the movie. Dom unfortunately doesn't. And Dom's a brilliant actor. I mean, he's incredible. So it was like, what is what is happening here? And then I got little investments. And then I got to a point and I never forgot this day. I was literally on my

like a hundred and sixty eight zoom call asking for money and it was me and these four men and um i was like and then then bob bob i was given the whole pitch and one guy in the middle of me like in the middle of this story he was like you're so passionate about this aren't you oh i like kind of yeah I was just like, I think I'm done. I think I'm done here. And I went to my husband and said, he heard. And he was just like, he's not from this country. So he really, he doesn't understand like, why is it so weird here with women and men?

And I said, I can't do this anymore. I think I'm going to take money out of the house. And he was like, oh. Yeah, how was that conversation? Honestly, I had, I had, I had bought the house myself way back when I was doing a TV show. And I did it because I didn't want to be a slave to the industry anymore. I didn't want to have to do things that I didn't want to do. And I wanted to have some security and not have to do things that I hated.

And for money. Right. I'm an artist, sadly, and money isn't the thing. And I just went to him and I said, listen, this is what I'm thinking because I have to do this. And I know, like, am I on my dying bed that I'm going to be pissed. Yeah, well, you'd be talking about it. I mean, even just the last 15, 20 minutes, it's been in, it was in your head. It was haunting you.

I mean, you would never be able to sleep if you didn't get this. Imagine dying. It would be like. Like, I can't. Like, oh, my house is paid, though. Like, who cares? Right. So, and he was so over the fact of what he was seeing.

Mm-hmm. So he was like, go for it. Just do it. Go for it. I believe in you. And so I would never have been able to do what I did with certain characters if it wasn't all mine. No way, know-how would I have been able to do what I did.

Well, that's why I was going to ask that question as far as like, was there a lot of people, because it didn't seem like there was, it seemed like this was the, this was the raw thing that you wanted to make. Yeah, absolutely. And that is the beauty of funding it yourself. Yeah. Or, you know, being in that position where you can make the rules because I wouldn't have gotten the cast I got. I, I wouldn't have been able to do certain things. Just none of it. Do you know it also reminded me, I don't know if you remember this because we were talking about your big movie lover like me, obviously. Do you remember that movie? It was Craig Sheffer and Emilio Estevez. And it was called, oh my God, I can't remember the name of the movie. I just had it in my head. Something's barking in my brain. It was something and they were, and I can't, that was, oh shoot, yesterday, that was today, that was today.

That was yesterday, today, is tomorrow, something like that. And the reason I bring it up, but I remember seeing in Florida as a kid. And it was the relationship of these two best friends, not brothers, but to it, but it was, it was similar enough to where this um this relationship that the sisters have where it's like the one sister who's just the wild card and then the one is playing it by the rules and then there's this is so long that the one that's playing by the rules is going to say enough is enough so and that seemed and now hearing your story that was that seems that was you 100 it was also i always say this because people say which one who you rose is who i am

Connie is who I had to become. Right. To exist. And the amount of people, men and women, that feel that way has been really extraordinary. Because I was in film festivals for about a year with this film. So I got to meet audiences all over the country. And that was really incredible. I remember, you know, when we first got with this distributor, they were like,

this is a girls movie. And I was just like, guys, please hear me. It's not. I've been to the festivals all year. And the men that come over to me, sobbing, crying, trying to hide it, or writing me personally, like, that really moved me. You know, I'm in a different culture, but, or that really moved me because I think of my daughters. Right.

That's what got me. Yeah, because I have two daughters. So that was. There's something there. Listen. It's about a family, like you said in the beginning. It's about this family, this loving family, but broken family, and how we choose to either choose ourselves or our family.

And so many people understand that. I did. I mean, absolutely. So just watching it, and I think you did it for your first time. And the story, I think that's your story making this is as exciting. as the story itself because anybody, I mean, you look at the stuff that we were just talking about, that's on the wall, like whether it's rocky or anything, too, and that's really what it's about, right? So if you got to believe in something, you go for it, you make it happen because you

would, like you said, you wouldn't be able to sleep, you had to do it. But what, taking all this, now, this experience, this, the years it's taken, well, many years from the inception of the idea, what now can you breathe and can you say, because obviously you're promoting it, you want people to see it's on and I watched on Amazon last night so it's like there are people that now and that's where by the way you want to go check out fresh kills you go to you go Amazon you can go Apple Fendango it's moving everywhere now you go everywhere and you watch it and you check it out but now what do you do next do you continue in with directing to you go back full-time try to you want to do more TV do you want to do movies what's what's the goal right now I started like I said

in independent films, I just want to tell good stories and that was my frustration throughout my career because we don't make a ton of great stories. They come out around award season and there's about maybe 10

at best I'm being generous. But the rest of the year it's just stuff. I wanted to be a filmmaker. I wanted to go to NYU. I don't even think I understood what that meant because there were no females doing this, not that I knew of. And I thought I didn't have the money to go. My parents were like, good luck. And I thought, okay, well, I guess the role for me as a female is an actress.

And so I waited tables, put myself through acting school. And the work I got to do in acting school, Lee Strausberg, Theatre Institute, was incredible. Yeah. You're picking these incredible plays. of plays and then you get out and you're handed an under five my first job it was actually me and justin thoreau oh it was me and just in the row our first jobs both of us and we had under fives and my lines were i'm a hand model hands and feet that's it i studied for how many years doing theater right and then there i am doing hands and feet yeah and him the same he was the photographer

We were the bad kids and like so what I want to do is what I should have always been doing but I let the business and the world dictate who I was what I was capable of what I wasn't capable of how I should show up in the world how I should show up in the business and I just got really tired of it but I also got really tired of of the work that was available for me me and friends of mine and seeing how they really disregard women after a certain age. It's just like, you just don't hear from anybody anymore. And I was like, I'm not doing this. And that voice came in and was like, well, you know what you're supposed to do.

And it's like, shut up. And I remember it was probably six years ago because I had started and stopped writing this a gazillion times. Yeah. And it was always a movie. It was never a TV. It was always a movie, yeah. And it got to about six years ago, and I was starting to do a podcast with a friend,

and I was just, I was just so, my heart wasn't in anything. And I said, well, you know what your heart is in? You want to tell this story. And it was like, why are you holding everybody else accountable? Your agent, your manager, the business, the world. Why aren't you doing your job? I'm calling me.

Why are I? And it was like, well, why aren't you? What are you doing? If you think you're such hot shit, what are you doing? And it was like, oh, what am I doing? Complaining. Don't complain. Do something about it.

If you're waiting for anybody to call you or sign on to your dream, it is not happening. I can tell you that 100% is not happening. And then when you go down even further and you make the thing, you make the script. And you're like, look, I made the script. And then you get, if they read it, oh, Jennifer Esposito wrote this. Like, got it. You thought I was an idiot.

Okay. And then you go out and then you make the thing. And here I am with the thing. That's won awards all through the film festivals. We have a 92 on Rotten Tomatoes and a 94 from the people, critics and the people. And still, you get it and you go, look, I did the things. thing and it's critically acclaimed and still crickets right because it's like where's the money

where's the money right where's the beef where's the money right who are the stars who are the and that's when i think it really was like oh no no oh no oh no oh no oh this never had anything to do with me actually this is a this is an issue like there isn't no great new scripts They're not being made. So this has become, like I said, I started in indie films. This has become not even about me anymore. And it's not about ego. This is about as a person who loves film, I want to know what my choices are.

I want to know what's out there. And you're not knowing. People are not knowing what is out there because they are showing you the big things that they want to show you that's going to make money. Slots are bought when you see, oh, look at the top 10. How all these are the top 10? You're just like, that doesn't seem correct.

It's not. It's not. It's a machine. And we're losing art in the interim. And that's frightening to me. I also think one of the reasons, because I talk about this quite often on my show, is that there's just,

there are a lot opportunities for people now because there's just so, there's so much stuff and people are making so many things the problem is that there's just so much stuff there's so much stuff that it's like great stuff that you know i will say though you can find some great stuff but i think that when it comes to there's just so much there is there's just and like there are no we were just talking as you walked into talking about our mutual love for caddyshack there are not a lot of great comedies right no no no no no like seriously catty shack i I remember watching that movie over and over and over.

Like you, I don't know anything like that these days. I quoted it religiously. It looks good on you though. It's so funny because my dog reminds me of that and I make them dance. Oh, right? It's the best. It's a Kenny Loggage.

You can't beat it. Exactly. Yeah, so many, like the, but I, you know, and I think that it also relates back to, I grew up in the 80s also. So, you know, it's when it's, those types of movies my wife and I are constantly talking about how they don't make movies like that but there's but the music and that's what you did really well on this oh my god the music the music

crazy good the first move from I think was 87 and 93 and I can't remember the song that was playing in the car um but it immediately was it set it off yes yes is that what it was no no set it off it came down late It came down later. That one, that one I know very well, but it was when they're all, it was right before the little fight happens. Or should say she beats the piss, but there was a song that was playing

and just reminded me Queens, I think it might have been, but it was that whatever it was, it just took me back. And I just was like almost like transported into my neighborhood in Bayside. That's right, that's right. The amount of people that are like, what the hell with this music? It's like, this is what I heard,

but see this was, all part of the journey like when I was in those rooms and then like you're so passionate I would be talking about the music and how important it was because in my neighborhood the base that you would hear and you would know by the sound and the crispness of the base who was coming because it was like oh and you knew like oh that's trouble yeah boom boom so I would tell my actors that like that bass it's like it's like jaws yeah that doomed you knew who was coming down the block you knew what was it Cynthia oh is that one of the ones yeah my god Shannon like all these incredible yeah so much fun it was so much fun and I could see I mean I could really you you have to be especially this movie like the general on the set especially when you're doing what you're doing the show like hey

I fought for this thing I want you to to your actors to your crew I want you to fight for me so was that Because it was your first film, I'm going to feel like the answer was no. But was it hard for you to say, okay, I got to, you know, I got to tell these people kind of what's what, what my vision is? And Or was like, no, this is what I want. They're going to see it. They're on the same page. Let's go. I was extremely clear because I have been digesting this for so long.

And I know this world better than anybody could know this world. However, best idea wins, I would say. Best idea wins. You're going to show me something different, and I go, oh, that makes sense? Great. But it has to be the best idea. And I've lived in this world.

I know these people, I know these houses, I know the way they look. However, what I was able to do for them, I was able, and I hired 75% women, and I put them in power positions of being heads of department, So my production designer, I was able to show her, this is what I'm thinking. And here's why.

That's the difference. It wasn't like, I see blues and pinks. It was why do you see blues and pinks? Why is the house ultra feminine? And I, everything was through character. Everything. I said, the house is this way. And when you go into this, think of this.

This is the only place Francine has control. That's that's it well the house is a character as much as everybody exactly This is her layer and she is going to make it as uncomfortable as she can for Joe Let him be surrounded by floral let him be it's like a you know screw you to him that's her control Same thing with with the costume designer and then when the DP you know he definitely pushed back in some spots because to me it was all through roses perspective it was all through her perspective it was all through her eyes so through roses all all through Rose's eyes so that's where the camera was yeah and he'd be like well no I

really think we should bring the camera down here to get you and Dom no I think you should you're gonna want it nope I don't I don't want it I want to I want to follow Rose but when you're doing and this is something that I knew because of my early beginning in independent films doing 14 pages a day and it's like impossible But we did it you have to be really clear about what you want what you don't what you're looking for Because I mean some of those actors all of the actors sometimes had two takes three takes and best Yeah, I bet you have to move right and you have to be the one to go nope. Yes no yes We got it. Exactly. There's no like maybe that you don't have the money for that. Yeah, well, you could tell the performances are solid all the way around and I believe like if you don't believe it with that family it's over.

100%. And there's also, you know, the very fine line of going into that character of the family Italian like talking like this bullshit. Yeah, you always get nervous when you turn on. Oh my God. And then it was like, okay, no, because as you see, my first. favorite shows of all time is a sopranos. And the reason that show worked as famously as it did, because yeah, it's got a ton of the mafia stuff. That's what everyone thinks. That's what brings you in, but it's not what the show's about. Not what the show's about.

Same thing here, this is not about mafia. Right, and it's not. And it's like it is about the, that's why I brought up that I'm gonna get that name of that movie before we sign off. But you know, I asked you. I'll figure it out. That was today, this is tomorrow, whatever,

I'll figure it out. But there isn't I asked you what you wanted to do after this was going, because you're still promoting, you're out there and you just, this is your world still right now. So you might even be able to think about it. But, you know, clearly you've had some issues with the way that the business is run now and certain ways. But you were, you've been involved in some really big projects. One of the ones, the boys, you know. Boys, brash, some are saying. A ton of them.

A ton of great stuff. Yeah, bring up the boys because the boys had just kind of done something very differently in the way that. that your movie, the way that surprised it something differently, that wasn't just a superhero show. That's right. It was so much more to it. But tell me a little about your experience working on that show. Did you have a good experience on that show?

It was, I liked pretty much everyone. Okay. Pretty much. I liked everyone except maybe one. But, you know, it is what it is. It's, I thought so too. I agree with you. I thought the creator, Eric, Eric, yeah.

I thought he, we had a long talk about it. I was like, this is so smart. Yeah. Because he's, again, he's saying what he wants to say. In a way, I always would say, like with fresh kale's, I would say, I'm putting the broccoli in the cake. Because if I came out and talked about women's voices, no one cares, so put it in the mafia world.

And that's what he did with this superhero, It's so much more and it's so smart. Lower them in, make them stay. Exactly. And get what you want to say out without preaching to anybody. Nobody wants to be preached to. No one wants a lesson while they're trying to enjoy a movie. No one.

So I thought it was really smart. I was never supposed to be on long. It was supposed to be that way. Okay. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. Of course, you know, I always play that, that's what comes to me is that,

detective FBI and listen it's it's it's fine but yeah it'd be great to be a superhero or some some kind of fun you know do something else but you know it was fun and I but I did see the brilliance of what he was doing so you would but you would want to do that

stuff if the opportunity presented itself you would want to if it's a smart story sure that's the thing it's like you can do all that stuff but if the story is there if the character's there I have nothing like like Schwarzenegger and Terminator and like oh that's great stuff but there was a great story it was about the sun and like what was going on like there was story there was character development that's what I like but listen is that my favorite type of movie no I lean towards more like a moonlight like you know I I love I love stories that hit yeah human

The ugliness, the beauty, the broken, because that's what we are. And that's, again, what I love about fresh kills is nobody's all good, nobody's all bad. You love the mother, you hate the mother, you love Joe, you hate Joe. And that, you know, I have one producer in the beginning pushing me to be very clear who Joe was. In the beginning, he's got to kill someone, but I was like, no, absolutely. not. I will like literally 10 days before we're ready to shoot. I really think you should change it. And I was like, I don't care because that's not this movie. We are watching this unfold through Rose's eyes. Rose loves her father. Period. End of story. If we make him a villain right away,

it's very, you have a feeling about him. I don't want to dictate to the audience how you should feel about him. Because I grew up around. girls that the fathers were doing some pretty heinous things. They love their father and they would fight you really quickly if he said anything about him. Right, but it's not the focus. The focus it wasn't that. The focus was more so of saying the girls rose is aware of what's going on. She's aware. Clearly they're aware and it's more about them and setting up and he's because there was I mean for a second I said oh you know we haven't seen Domino a little than I'm saying to myself going yeah but we know he's there. His presence is there. His presence is there.

Every scene. Right. And that's what I told the ladies as well. You are scared all the time. Right. All the time. You don't know if he's coming home. If he is home.

Where is he? If he's not home, like what's going to happen? Are they going to fight? Is it going to blow? Right. You don't know. Well, so I'm so glad that we went down this road because there's a scene where that was brilliantly acted and didn't have to be told.

And that was when he gives the girls the bakery. Right? it seems to me, and you can answer or not answer, but it seems to me that that was basically someone couldn't pay their bills, and he took over the bakery because the first person is terrified. It's terrified.

And then you get the guy who can't speak English and he's just doing his job, and he's just there and he's saying, I've seen it before, I'm just here. But that scene, I was like, that is showing what he's doing. Without telling you, Always.

Yeah. Always. Him coming home in the middle of the night. Why are you washing clothes in the middle of the night? Right. And she was losing it. Losing it because, and she's talking about a washing machine. It has nothing to do with the washing machine.

She moved into this place thinking, we're going to live a whole new life. And here he comes. Why are you washing your clothes at two in the morning? Right. You don't have to spell it out. The audience is a lot smarter than anyone gives them credit for. And that's, I have to say, the beauty, that's how I'm here. That's been the beauty of this, I have to say.

And it's honestly what keeps me going, to be quite honest, because this has been really heartbreaking at moments, is the support from the audience and the people mad. Like, why did I not know about this movie? Why did I just happen to come across it on social media? Why did I not ever hear about it? this like what what I don't understand they're pissed and like you said I don't map things out for you in this film you gonna watch people have told me I watched

now for the fifth time and I'm oh got something else yes because you have to pay attention well even what you just said just before about how she designed the house and I was like oh yeah I could see that I'm telling you go back and watch it now it's like oh oh oh like every time you watch it's like oh oh I see what's going on this is a movie that's been in your head since you're a little girl so of course you have all those details and then before I before I let you go I wanted to also as like when when it comes to stuff that because obviously a big movie and TV fan is there stuff that you're watching right you

know what you know a show I could see you on easily my best the bear oh I would love to be on the bear you kidding me oh that that's the kind of stuff it's like I would eat that up like that's the kind of work succession oh I loved that show breaking bad oh my my god i may destroy you oh my god like there are some great stuff don't get me wrong there absolutely is but where i was in my career i wasn't going near any of them right and people like well you're that big actors like no i'm really not i'm really not i've done a lot of stuff but did i get to the level where i'm choosing and no absolutely not and i wanted to do something that i knew i was

capable of rather than the business telling me and dictating who and what i could be as an artist and as a person. Yeah. And I was like, okay, mortgage the house. Well, you did it. And as I tell you guys, again, fresh kills, support the movie. Go check it out.

As Jennifer said, you can watch on many different platforms. You should see it. You know me. Not only do I love the mafia movies, but this isn't a mafia movie. It is a family film. It is very well done.

It's directed, written, and starring. Jennifer Esposios. Thank you today for joining me. Thank you. I appreciate it. Okay. So thank you guys very much, and we will be right back in just a minute. All righty.

So thank you for joining us on that interview, guys. And thank you for Jennifer Esposito, obviously, for joining us for being in the studio. How cool is she, man? I mean, I loved that. She came in from the city. We sat down. We had a conversation about the movie. I love hearing that story about how someone's passion, like that voice inside someone's head

who just said, I have to do this, I have to do this, I have to do this. and just won't let it go and knows that you just not can be able to rest until you do it. I think it's very motivational, and I love it. I love that she was so open with us on that. So make sure you check that movie out. And again, thank you to Jennifer Ford joining us today. Okay, we're going to get to your questions. I almost got you.

At least I think I beat Steph yesterday. We have 13 questions in there right now. So I think I beat Steph. Way off from beating Roxy today. So Roxy's still going to keep her title. Roxy and Mike. No one gives Mike to credit, though. I don't know if we should give Mike the credit.

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Okay. So it's time to see if we can actually make a big comeback here, guys. What do you think? Think we can do it? We'll see. Tomorrow you got me and Winston on the show, and we're going to be, it'll be me and Winston. Coy will be back next week, but me and Winston will be doing the capes and cows. I have my Transformers 1. Do you guys care if I do a non-spoiler review of Speak No Evil?

Do you care? Tell me if you care. If not, yeah, I'm out of the theater reaction. I think that might be good enough. Okay, here is the first question. Of course, Kate Hebert, who says, Have you revisited the Rogue One score since its release? I think it's got some great tracks, particularly your father would be proud. I think I've talked about this, actually, Cade.

I have revisited it, and I think it's better than I gave it credit to. I still don't like the big sci-fi booming theme when Vader arrives to the, or it was either Vader or Krennick goes to Vader's castle. is this big booming thing. I don't like that, but yes, the Rogue One score is much better than I initially gave it credit for. I don't disagree with you. Mormoth haunts, it's a cool name's got coming in here. What are the odds that James Gunn uses the John Williams Superman theme?

How mad will we be if he doesn't? You know what's funny about that? I actually tweeted at him a little while, like, I don't know, months ago, saying exactly what you just did. Like, let's get it. It's like the same way that Bond has that. familiar theme or there's Star Trek has that familiar theme or Star Wars has that familiar theme is that why not Superman have that familiar theme right and all the

pushback I got on Twitter well please don't please don't do this guy please don't and the way that the way the people were saying it it was like no or other people were like more civilized people were going no use the Hans Zimmer one instead love that. Hald Zimmer one's great. But I do it for the for the uplifting Superman I'm with you. I'm with you. I think that they should use it. I think it'll be a lot of complaints actually if they don't if they don't. If they do use it more if they do. I don't think he will. I think they're going up with a brand new one and that will be his theme kind of going forward throughout the entire thing. But I would love it. They tried to do it. You know, John Ottman I thought did it did it very well in

the Brian Singer version. It just didn't you know that movie wasn't well received. So I I think that it got lumped in there, but I would love it. It's one of my favorite scores of all time, and it's a great, one of the best superhero themes of all time. So we'll see. Next one, Derek Johnson, one of the best. I'm 100% on board with him taking a back seat. X-Men 97 has proven that Wolverine doesn't need to be at the forefront.

Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, man. It's going to be hard to argue with you there because X-Men 97 proved that you can focus in on the team. And I also think that the way that they presented Cyclops, and the other X-Men in the movies, the live action movies, when it first came out, did them a disservice

and put the spotlight on Wolverine. So I think that if you put him on the back burner, when he comes back later and you cast whoever you cast with him, it makes more of an impact. And you see how they kind of got started or get started with them working on their own without, because Wolverine doesn't join until later on. And then when he joins in movie two or movie three,

it could actually be pretty beneficial. So everybody, mine and everybody else's first reaction of, what are you doing might be wrong it might actually work out if planned out the right way so I don't think it's as dumb as it initially sounds haunted autumn put a couple on the main to draw traffic oh talking about the the clips yeah I think that's what I'm going to do so for I asked thank you haunted autumn for letting your opinion be known so basically in the beginning of the show I said that I put clips out in the channel what I don't want to do is bombard people's subscriptions with a whole bunch of like eight clipouts per show. I just don't want to do that. So I think what I'm going to do

is take like one or two. I'm going to take like one or two clips, main clips from the show, space them out over maybe a couple hours, an hour or two, and let those play on the main channel and the rest put on the clips channel. Because I have the clips channel that has a lot of the celebrity interviews. I'll put a lot of that stuff in there. But yeah, that's probably what I'm going to do. All right. Next one. Bradley Johnson. Do the Yankees make it pass to ALCS this year? I mean, of course I want to say yes.

It just depends on what the rest of the team has to hit. They can't just, you know, have just a judge and the rest of the power hiters. They got to have everybody's got to hit. Everybody has to hit. Everybody says everyone's a slumping and you got to be able to hit. And if everyone else is hitting and they can hold it off, then yes. If the rest of the team wakes up, then they can make it past. Heroic hideaway.

I feel like they'll let Jackman do the two Avengers movies and a small reboot will happen after the Secret Wars. Then recasting him will happen then. I think you're probably right. I mean, that's probably, they feel like there's still money to be made with him and that he still wants to do it. So if he still wants to do it, you know, why don't you let him do it? I kind of, I understand it. So Mad, Mad Sinister McCall, there he is. Best Snyder.

Harleff to react to a racer. Got one view. Yeah, if we're lucky, maybe half of you, I think. And we got 13. Did I beat Steph? I don't know if Steph... How many does Steph have yesterday? I can't remember.

But I think I at least tired her. I think she might have 15. I might have lost. Anyway. Heroic hideaway. I also hated the first trailer. And now I plan to see Transformers opening weekend. Yeah, I'm telling you.

You're going to not regret it. I'm going to scream it to the heaven. that if you do not I told the representatives when I was walking out I said I did not like the trailer I thought that first trailer does not represent what this movie is

it is one of the worst trailers to represent what a movie actually is it is not a good trailer it is it looks like it plays super goofy it looks like there's just going to be jokes every three seconds it doesn't look like it's going to be true to the lore

it looks it's completely misleading I'm almost tight stuff okay thanks um one more to tie stuff i'll take that as a win um but yeah i think it's very very misleading the the movie is is phenomenal it's fantastic i want to see it again i'm going to take my oldest to go see it again it's so good so good so enjoy it please and everybody come back and tell me by the way um okay here we go next one ewalk i really hope spielberg's UFO movies takes a docu-drama approach to the mystery like all

Stone's JFK using the current hearings in DC as a lens to explore past real-life cases like Roswell ETC. Here, here, here, my friend, here. It's exactly what I've been saying. I don't give a crap about another fantastical Stephen Spielberg UFO movie because he pays attention to this stuff. He knows about David Grush. He knows about the hearings. He knows about what the Senate's trying to do. He knows about the nuclear cases. He knows about all of these things. He knows about it. He knows the names. He knows the terminology. He knows he knows a lot of the people who've worked hand in hand. He's have very extensive conversations. He could make a very important movie to bring more awareness to people about what this stuff really is. A true story. I say like The Post. That's

what I hope. But I think it probably won't happen. Probably won't happen. Simon section. Thank you, Simon, as always. I'm so glad that Cage felt wrong about the new Transformers movie. I'm so pumped to see it. One day, Cage may feel wrong about just friends. Never. Last Jedi. Nope. Rocky Five. Rocky Five, out of all of them, is the one I can at least watch again. They're a hidden gems seeking, you shall find it. No, Rocky Five would have been a good movie, the same movie if it would have ended in the ring. It just doesn't, Stalin himself hates it.

Doesn't like it either. Just Friends is the most overrated stinkbox comedy of all time. I hate that movie. And The Last Jedi is the opposite for me. First time I saw it, I was confused. Second time I saw it, I convinced myself, I was like, oh, this is actually a pretty good movie. And then I was watching it, as I watched it again, and I still will say, it is a very well-made film.

To this day, I've watched it. We have to watch it a re-watch. It just gets worse and worse for me. It's hard. It's just boring. It's a boring movie. But I still don't take that for people who say, because one director has a movie that you don't like,

that the next movie, that he did Looper. I love Looper. He did the first times out. Really liked that movie. He's done Brick. Ryan John did some of the best episodes of Brick. bad ever it's a great director great director but not that movie now for me and no i'll never come around on just friends because i don't think i have anything to come around on i just don't like

that movie um okay so many people like that movie that's that's the one that everyone loves that i'm just like what okay christopher carrillo talking about uh jennifer esposito she's a great actress but i don't appreciate her playing a woman from el salvador and she is italian american in crash well she is a She is Italian-American in real life. So you're saying from El Salvador, was she playing someone from... I didn't see Crash, so was she playing someone from El Salvador? But, I mean, that's...

I don't know. They cast her, she did a good job. You know, she got the role. And I think your argument would probably be, like, why not cast someone actually from El Salvador? Which I understand that, too. But it's like, not her fault. She went in for an audition and got the role.

But, yeah, I mean, And again, I don't know what you're referencing necessarily because I didn't see the movie, but this is a... I didn't... Thank you, by the way, for your question. And second, I'm glad that you guys got a chance to see that interview with her. I have another interview with Billy Magnuson

that I'm going to do the same style. Billy Magnuson, of course, he's got a new show coming up called The Franchise on HBO, and it comes out in October, I think. So I think that's when I'm going to air that one. So you guys can see that and kind of chime in on that. And I like displaying your comments as the interviews coming into us. That's something that knew I'm going to do.

So I kind of encourage you guys to comment. And if you say something douchey, I'm not going to put it out there. But you say something nice while the person's talking. I'll put it up. But yeah, thank you guys so much for all the questions. Got a couple left. I got about, I don't know, I think about 15 minutes to beat Steph. I think I can do it.

One more person at least timing. EWalk, coming in. I know that it has its detractors, but I'm really enjoying rings of power this season. Steph said the same thing. One of my favorite aspects is Beer McCrary's incredible score. What recent TV or film scores have impressed you? Oh, man, you know, I got to really think about that.

What was it? I mean, I liked the score for Transformers 1. It was really good. It was really good, actually. I have to think about, I mean, the House of the Dragon score really, really well done. The ones that have just popped out, You know what score is really underrated.

You can say what you want about the movie itself, and it's fine. I mean, I had a fun time watching a movie, but I can acknowledge it's not a good movie, and it's Black Adam. Black Adam, the score, is great. It's a great score. It really, it's a really, really good score, underrated score, but it doesn't get any love because it was a movie that was attached to that people just don't dig. As far as the Lord of the Rings series, yeah, I hear that,

it's better, but the ratings are down. Because I think the first season just did too much damage to it. I think not enough people care anymore. So I don't think it's too expensive. I don't think it gets renewed past season two. Jacob Tizano, who says, any chance we get invincible reactions with them being more frequent with the channel, would make a great reaction video.

I just don't know if I have the time to do that. with all the other ones I'm going to be doing. Like tomorrow, we have the trap reaction going up with my wife and I. That goes up tomorrow. The following week is going to be long legs with myself and my friend Tina. And the following week after that is Logan with my friend Sam. And then we're going to start doing like she isn't. We're going to probably do the Deadpool movies again.

And that will be, and it's going to be once a week. Unless, I mean, look, the first episode we put out with Sarah, did like 7,000 views. But it was on borderlands and nobody seemed to really care about borderlands. The fact that it just did 7,000 was encouraging, to be honest, because I said, I looked at other people that we were doing it, and nobody was watching the reactions. It was okay, at least there was that. So we'll see how my reaction with my wife does. If you guys watch them and they keep doing well, if they do well, then I'll do more of them.

But right now, they've got to just, they've got to start to become good. You know what I mean? I mean for the channel, it'll be kind of top earners, if you will. Okay, let's see. How many more we got left? maybe one or two we have left okay Anthony M. 7.2 My magic spoon package just arrived and I'm pumped.

I'm trying to look like you, Christian. What's your favorite flavor? Chocolate, you don't want to look like me. Poor guy. Yeah, you don't want to look like me. Peanut butter and chocolate. That's what I do. I mix them.

When they come in, I put them both together, and that's what I do. And it's delicious at night. I'll do it if I need a snack. I go, I do it with almond milk. and I do peanut butter and the chocolate. They have a lot of really good ones. They have some really good flavors.

So some good stuff. Good stuff. Is this the last one? All right, the last one. Peter Parker, hey, I sent a super chat yesterday as a show was ending. Oh, shoot. Let me see. Well, was it ending on the live chat?

Let me see if I can find it on the replay, Pete, because I didn't see it. Did we sign off? I'll see if I can find it real quick. and I will bring this up as we do this. And it looks like I'll at least tied Steph. I'll be happy with it. I tied step.

So at least I didn't come in last place. That's good. Let me see if I can find yesterday's show. It was at the very end you said, Pete. All right, let's see. Bring it up at the end. And I'm going to close that down. And I'll see if I can bring here.

We'll do it this way. So that way, that way we show it. Okay, hold on, everybody. Oh, you've got another one. Okay, I think I beat Steph now. Thank you. Okay, I want to see if I can find this one. Bada-b-d-d-d-d-do.

Where is it? I can't, let's see, I'm not seeing anything from Pete yet. Maybe he didn't come through, Pete. Aaron was the last one that I see. I didn't see anything pop through, man. Might not have, it didn't come through. I never got it. Because it was right, the last one I got,

yeah the last one I got yesterday's show I'm looking at it was from Aaron Task Masker that was the last one that I saw maybe it just it didn't pop through unless it did I shut it down so I didn't see it you know

people go ahead and put it in right type in whatever you whatever you wrote I'll read it off right now I'll look for your name it's popping up in the chat so Simon's section I'm curious to see Megalopoulos because I haven't seen a for F sakes

no no for Francis Ford Coppola movie on the big screen, and this maybe is his last, so I'd respect on my Sienna IMAX, despite the better reviews. How are you? Yeah, there was a couple screenings that have come in, or at least one, in the city that they invited me to, and I may or may not go, I want to see it. I'm going to go check it out for sure. But yeah, how do you not want to see Francis Ford Coppel, even though it's not getting great reviews? I just heard it was so-so, from people that I know that saw it. I said it was so-so. So, I'm curious. I'm curious. I do want to see it. I mean, it's Francis for Coppel.

So you did find it in the Supers? Where was it? He found it in the Super. Speaking on using actors that have passed on, that certain Romulus character just didn't, this is from Peter Parker history, I think of Galaxy's, that certain Romulus character

just didn't look good to me was that deep fake. Also, I'm hyped for T1. So, yeah, I mean, look, you know what's funny about that? I actually think the problem is that the way that they use it, I don't know why,

It is this way with studios, right? When you look at a lot of stuff that Disney did, I know this is Disney also combined with Fox, but some of the stuff that the deep fake stuff they do with YouTube is way better than the stuff they do in movies. Way better. Like it looks, the ones that,

they still think the best one that they've done in movies is Michael Douglas and Ant Man. I mean, there's been some others, but that's the one that stands out to me. Like, that's the kind of stuff. I think that even Kurt Russell, you know, the other one was pretty good. The Guardians of Galaxy 2.

But yeah, that's, you're not hassling, you paid for a question. And we missed it. Hassling all. So that's kind of why I think it's, yeah, I don't know. I don't understand how they make that work. I don't understand how they make that work when they put that kind of crappy CGI on. And I didn't mind the one in Romulus too bad. I know a lot of people had problems with it,

but I think it kind of worked with what they were trying to do. But I understand. And I don't know if it was deep fake or not. I think it was. And as far as being hype for Transformers 1, you should be. You'll like it. So there you go. So someone did see it.

Okay, interesting. Okay. Well, good. I don't know why it didn't pop up. I don't know how Galaxy's found it, but he found it nonetheless. So we got it in there. All right. Well, if anybody else is put in a question, I don't want to lose it.

So put it in now and we at least beat Steph by one. So, but Roxy, man, Roxy, how do the hell do Roxy pull off 31 more questions? That's pretty great. Tomorrow, you know Winston's going to be, Winston takes a crack at the belt. Can he get it? We'll see. We got a good show with me and Winston tomorrow. There's a lot of stuff to cover.

We'll cover, I don't know, maybe we will get to, I mean, I guess I got to watch Venom. Now that I said I wasn't going to watch them, I probably have to watch it. So I'll probably do Venom tomorrow. Now that I said I wasn't going to watch it, I realize with capes and cows, I probably have to. And that's true. Carla said she could, that Roxy called everybody trash. And so she got everybody to do it.

That's all you got to do. I'm not going to call you names. I can't. I can't do it. The fact that you guys just put in that many questions is like, is super awesome. I can't call you trash. And I know Roxy didn't mean.

She was just busted chops. But anyway, this is a good show. Thank you. Tomorrow's going to be great. And we have more stuff. I don't want to do a live reaction to Venom. I don't want to do it.

I have to. so wants to do a live reaction of venom right now. No one wants to see that. That's true, but no one wants to see that. Yeah, I don't know. This is a, this is, I liked today's show. It was quiet, small. I liked, I liked those little quiet moments.

And then there's, I like the big moments too. So, anyway, thanks for being here today, everyone. I really appreciate it. and I will see you guys very, very soon. Thank you. Love it. Wonderful. Nice.

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