The Kristian Harloff Show - SAM MORRIL talks New Comedy special, morning shows and stopping sex to write down jokes

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

On today's episode of The Big Thing we talk to comedian Sam Morril. Sam's new special "You've Changed" drops on Amazon today. We talk about NY, comedy, relationships and more. #sammorril #comedy #comedians #jokes #special

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to The Big Thing. It is Tuesday, Tuesday edition of The Big Thing. And what we are doing now, when we have interviews, we run them on the Tuesday show. Just so happens that comedian Sam Relle, his new special on Amazon drops today. Perfect timing. So Roxy's been a fan, Sam, for a very long time. I have just recently gotten familiar with him, and he's a really funny dude, man.

I'm always nervous when I get a comedian on you're like, check out the special. and you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, it was fine. It was really good. It was really good. He's a really polished comedian. And in this interview, I say he's not safe. He's not a safe comedian. He did not like that.

He did not like when I said that. But we got over it pretty fast. It's a great conversation. Me, and Roxy and Sam, we break it down. We talk about everything about the special and general, his appearances on daytime shows and how he's almost like made a, made it a point to be a pain in the ass on those shows and he likes it. So there's a lot that we talk about with Sam.

So I hope you enjoy it. And I hope you like the interviews in general. We have a lot of great ones coming up. So make sure that you subscribe to the channel if you haven't done so already. Comment, click like. It helps us get more people on the show. We've had some great guests already. We're getting more that are booked up.

I guess some ones that if they go through, you guys are really going to lose your minds. And already people have been losing their minds because they announced that Sam was coming on. They're like, oh, he's one of my favorites. So check it out. Enjoy the conversation with myself, Roxy, and Sam. Let's get into it. We do it.

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That's MagicSpoon. Hold on to the dream. Okay. I am very excited to bring our next guest in here. And you guys, you know him. I know that when we mentioned that he was coming on the show, everybody was so excited that Sam Marell is here. He has a brand new show on Amazon Prime's new special.

Sam Marell, you've changed. And when I told Roxy, Roxy, I said Sam's coming on. Roxy, you're like, I got to be on that interview, and I need to talk to Sam. And I said, of course you will. And before I even let you say anything, I got to bring in Sam. Sam, how's it going? I'm good.

How you doing? It's good to have you, man. And I didn't realize that you were in New York while we were doing this, because Roxy had just mentioned to you that I'm living in New York again after living in L.A. for about 25 years. So being back, I could not, you're part of your special when you're talking about just spending too much time in the city you need a break sometimes you are you are correct sir that works for any city honestly yeah i'm in a different downtown every week and and that's like an easy laugh i'm like

man downtown is fucking horrible and everyone like laughs and like it doesn't matter where you are yeah you know because downtown's always horrible everywhere everywhere we go l a day is every downtown is just meth heads running around screaming at you i can't write outside anymore on the coffee table because it's just like i'll be like trying to think of a joke and some guy just like comes barking at I mean, I'm going, I go up, you know? Yeah, it's true. It is, and you're not wrong. The downtown, I mean, L.A., downtown is miserable, miserable.

I remember driving by one time. We were going at this party. It was like a nice area as far as the building itself, but right next to us was a guy face first, could have been dead, and there was like three people over him, and one guy just does this, holds up the wallet, like, I got it, and then just takes off. Nope, a cop could have been right next to him. nothing happens.

I guess you're right. It's every city. Yeah, it's not good. No. So let's talk about the special meeting. Roxy was also excited. You shot this in Boston. That's where I'm from.

I'm a Boston girl. I was so cool. You were at the Wilbur, right? Yeah, Wilbur's awesome. And yeah, I did four shows there as killer. And I just knew they would be good crowds. You just want to go. You know the venue's going to be cool,

and you know the audiences in Boston crowds are great. Why? I think a combination of like the wise asses, the working class, they're smart. And it's just like a real city. So I just trust him to be good for a special. And I never tape one there. And I felt like I should have my dad from Boston. And I think it was meaningful that I did it, the Wilbur because he used to go there growing up.

So he came out for the special too. What makes a bad city to tape? And you guys have both been doing stand-up forever. What would be a bad crowd, bad city? Naples, Florida is among the worst in the country, I would say. They should be euthanized. And if we do get nuked, I hope they aim for that part of it. Don't hit Miami, though.

I like Miami. I mean, look, here's the problem with Naples. There's no intellectual curiosity. There's no respect for entertainers. They just look at us as lesser than, which is such a bad attitude to go to a show. I hated that crowd. Naples. Fort Myers isn't great either. Florida's a real toss-up. I've always said Reno Nevada is a toss-up. I did a casino there as a young comic, and I think my opening line was, I've never seen

fake tits in an oxygen tank on the same person, but here we are. And yeah, not my favorite. It's just bad memories. Like, look, I can connect with people in every city, but those are the ones that pop out. It's like, oh, those were tough gigs. those were my favorite yeah i have you ever been you ever been kicked out of of of a club starting up no but i've closed clubs like i i remember like this club in uh teledo ohio i got this guy drove me at the airport my manager's like did you cash the check and i was like no i'm at the airport and he was like cash it immediately i'm at the airport i can't cash it but he's like the club went under i'm like i fucking closed the club he's like yeah you closed it

amazing. I got I got I got kicked out of the Acme Comedy Club when it's a great club. It's a great club. But one of the things I love you do, I love how you can kind of back. You're not curious why do you do that? Why you got to? I just felt like I like this angle better. It's like a better

looking, that's a better looking poster. What is that poster? Out of the past. Oh, nice. Here we go. Here we go. That's better. You know the very famous out of the past. It's an old school. Yeah, it's a good movie. Yeah, it is. Um, well, do you so one of things I like what you do, though, is that you don't, you, when my, when people ask about stand-up comedy,

and I think that a lot of times it's like a comedy voice thing that people will do, and they don't, meaning that they will stay safe and they play safe. You don't play safe. And I like that you don't play safe. I like where you go what's on your mind, you talk about anything that's out there, you take risk, and you talked about your last special where you almost got canceled, or you felt like someone was trying to cancel you at some point, this one particular person that back in the day was trying to do it.

That wasn't my last special. I was a kid. That was like 2013. But no, I mean, look, I don't like even being described that way of like he's not safe. I think that's like it just makes you sound like a wannabe or something like that. So I just think like you say what you think is funny. I don't like being described that way because I think it makes you sound like a guy who's like who would just like poke for the sake of poking. And I think there's a lot of that going on.

But I think if there's a joke that I think is worthwhile, it's hitting. And as long as your intent isn't malicious and you're just trying to be funny, people are going to love that. So, you know, it's funny when I talk to these people at the companies. They're like, oh, we don't think this will work. I'm like, cool. I toured it in like 90 different cities and it worked in all of them. So I'm going to go ahead and say, I think it is going to work. And they're like, but we don't know.

I'm like, when's the last time you left L.A.? You know? Right. There's certain jokes where they're just like, we don't know. I'm like, I know. I'm fucking torn with it. I get it. So I think for, you know, you just get a good sense of the country.

And, you know, I'm doing a lot of international dates. I'm like, wow, I get a good sense of what's funny in the world to people. You know, you know what to cut. And leading with the like, it's not safe. I just think it sounds like it's trying to get in trouble. Well, I understand. I understand what you mean. I understand that.

But it was, it wasn't, what, the intent of what I was saying there, too, was more so of light. Because for you as a comedian, I understand exactly 100% what you're saying to me. But like when it comes to some people when they're watching, the safer comedians, meaning people that are more, I guess, family friendly, people who don't take the risk. And I know you don't want to get boxed in to be like, well, I'm not just doing it because. It's who you are and that's what you want to talk about. I understand that, 100%. But it's refreshing to me to see it from you, from someone who tuned into it going, well, this guy is not, not, scared to talk about whatever's out there and even bringing up when you're talking about the stuff

because the trans stuff that you bring up in your special, like that is a hot topic when comedians don't, when the comedians talk about things where they will, it's been, whether it's Dave Chappelle or whoever it is, get attacked for certain things. And you said it and you're like, well, they look at me and they go, well, I'm an ally now. And there's a certain way that you bring it up. You have a certain charm about you that you can say things that people, there's a couple times that people grown in the special in the way that you were intending to. But it's not because I never want them to grow. Yeah, but they did it.

And I didn't want them to, you know? I mean, the way that they did it, that you played it and you played off of it of it, like, it's a risky joke. And it's, of course, like, so, I mean, that's what I mean that. You're not just doing it to be risque. You're doing it because that's the fucking joke. But I, but I'm just saying, though, it is refreshing to see someone who just will take the risks. Yeah, it's fun. I don't think of it's risk.

It's just kind of where my mind goes. Fair. It's like more, it's more like math to me, a joke. like, okay, this plus this equals this, as opposed to like this, this is edgy. It's more just like, I think that's just how I always train my mind to think. Sure. So how do you want to be seen? Because I think that is an interesting response.

As Christian was mentioning, that it's not, you're not safe. And you're like, that is not how I want to be seen. I took his comment more as a commentary on audiences and the way that entertainers now have to cater to certain audiences. which might not be how you feel. What is it that you are trying to be seen as, especially as a stand-up? Just a good stand-up. Just a stand-up where people are like,

man, he's consistent, he's prolific, and he's really strong. That's really how I want to be seen. I think, you know, I've done so much stuff that it's not, like, networky. I just didn't come up networking. So it was like, I got good at this, you know, as you said, those gigs.

You were driving gig to gig, you know. I remember casino runs. You're doing gigs for people who are like, you know, bar flies and you're trying to make them laugh. So that's kind of, I got my sensibility. Like, would this be funny to a friend of mine at the bar as opposed to just like, what's the head of CBS thinking? You know what I mean? It was just a different style. So there was never, I guess I just want to be seen as a good comic, as simple as that.

And sometimes people would send me clips me like, oh, I don't know if you like this guy. he's like clean. I'm like, why wouldn't I like a clean comic? I think it's just, it's like that type of thing. Yeah, I think I like all types of comedy. So to me it's like good and bad. It's not like these subsections of like clean, this, that, you know?

I think there's a difference between also between like there are tons of incredible clean comics and I think that there's just their spirit sometimes and what I meant again by when it comes to the wrist. It's more about the definition of what exactly you're talking about. Someone who just is talking

how they see the world and want to tell their thoughts exactly what you're saying is having a conversation if you and I were in the city and you just you see and I can't even imagine the conversations that you had about that debate of what was going on after hearing you your your comparison of what Biden and Trump are the drunk driver you know that that was awful right it was yeah that was that was that was that was a train wreck I mean that was a car wreck yeah yeah no that was awful uh yeah another case I think I said in the special, it'd be really funny if it wasn't happening to us. Yes.

But it's our country. Yeah. It's like our lives. What a shame that these are the people who are going to represent us. Yeah. It's a, it's, it really is. And it was amazing to watch that bit in your, when I was, when I'm watching that, you talking about them, I said, the first thing I thought was like, because I'm like,

I have to talk to him about the debate because I can only imagine relating that. And that's basically what I was talking about where the, the thoughts that are coming out in that conversation with whoever you're sitting there, that's the stuff that you bring on stage. And that was, that's ultimately the compliment I was trying to give you. Thank you. Wow.

Yeah. Look, he said, thank you. You appreciate the calling. Good one. Thanks for calling me. Thanks for calling me not safe.

In, because, so as Christians said at the beginning, Sam, I am like just a huge fan of yours to be. Thanks. Yeah, I think you're amazing.

I've been watching you for years. And because I've been watching you for years, one of the things I know is your infamous morning show appearances that people seem to be baffled by you time after time. Do you prefer that? Like when you're going on a show and they don't know you, your sense of humor, they don't know what you're about to bring to them.

And then those clips go obviously incredibly viral, TikTok, YouTube everywhere. Is that your preference? Do you love being interviewed by people who are like, who is this guy and how did this happen? Yeah, it's been a while since I've had one of those. Usually the ones that let me on or letting me on in spite of that, and they're kind of like, this will be funny.

But I love, I mean, the first one that really kind of popped was, I was just annoyed. I was just like, I was only two hours of sleep in Pittsburgh in like a shitty part of town. And they forced me to do morning TV. It was before I was like selling tickets and wanting. I was like eager to do it. I'm like, fuck, I don't move tickets if I'd do something horrible.

But it was at a time where they were like, you have to do it. It's part of the deal. And I was like in a bad mood. Someone was wrong with the air in the hotel. So I was like all nasally and stuff. And I sound like such a whiny Jew. But I go to the-

I'm part of your tribe, so I get it. We can complain about whatever we want. But you look like Hitler would have liked you is a different. Oh, thank you so much. I die it. So, you know, maybe he would have kept me around. But we get to, we get to the studio

and I remember it's Pittsburgh today live and I remember they asked me this one to start it they were like just kept asking questions with like they just didn't give a shit and I was like

I'm like two hours asleep it's not gonna move one ticket and I and I because like no one watching this show sincerely is gonna is gonna like me but then they just were like

say have you always been funny and the way they said it I was just like oh I'm gonna fucking it's in my head I'm like it's live I'm going to ruin it. So I said something along the lines of like, no, but when I was young, my uncle molested me.

And he was funny. And that gave me Spider-Man-like superpowers. So now I'm funny. And I just said it very, like, seriously. And they just paused. And it was like, you could hear a pin drop. And then the woman goes, well, I don't know what to do with that there. And I was like, and then I just broke and started cracking up.

I'm like, this is so fucking uncomfortable. And I got off set and I was like, hey, can I get a copy of that footage? And they were like, get out. So I've always, I've always described these as like bank robberies. I need like an Uber getaway driver. The check. I have to like call it as I'm going on set because they do not like me. So I have to be ready to get the hell out of there.

But that one, thankfully, someone recorded. I went to like Twitter. I don't know if anyone recorded Pittsburgh today, live today. And someone had it. So it's bad footage. But I have that one. And that was the one that I saw how people like when I knew this. So I'm just going to keep doing it.

And sometimes it doesn't work, but when it works, it's, uh, it's pretty, especially in person. Like on Zoom, we've done shit that's been weird as hell. And Pam, my publicist got so mad at me one morning. We were doing, um, we were on the tour bus on some show in, uh, North Carolina. And I, as a joke, I was like, oh, it'll be funny if like we pretend, we pretend I'm really healthy because there's another live show. and then I pan around at my opener, Gary's just blowing a line. So, you know, I'm on live TV. And this woman's like, oh, look, you're being like really healthy.

I'm like, yeah, look, I have a salad here. And then I pan around and Gary's just like freaking out, like blowing lines. And she's like, well, thanks for coming in. And they cut it off like immediately. And Pam, my publicist calls me and goes, well, I just got screamed at by the head of the head of the show. Did she hate you or does she love you? Yeah, she kind of hates me. But she said something along the lines of, the guy said something along the lines of, well, Missy, you'll never be on Good Morning Durham ever again.

And so now I'm like blowing. But I had another recent one that the guy at Columbia, Good Morning, Columbus snapped on me. And then she tried to book another client like a month later. And they don't remember who's emailing about who. So they were like, we'll look at your client, but we had some asshole come on a month ago and pretend there was a human trafficking problem. The sex trafficking. That was my favorite. That was me, but they didn't know that Pam wrapped them.

So she goes, that's disgusting. I'll look into that. But she's like, you're rooting it for my other clients. I can't get them on morning TV, but I can't help it. I can't help. It becomes an addiction. Sometimes they're really cool. And it's funny because they roll with it.

But when they're not cool, it's also pretty funny. Yeah. It's true. It's like, we've had both. It's like fucking. Sorry. I started bringing Gary Veter. My opener on is like the gimp.

So I would have him like hogtide and I would pan over to him. You'd be like, mm, mm, and they'd be like, uh, you know. But my friend Rachel finds out was just in Buffalo, and I did the gimp in Buffalo. And the guy, and she was just going on. She's like, one of my best friends. And she goes, the guy goes, do you know this comedian Sam Marell? And she goes, oh, he's like, he's like my best friend. And the guy goes, he brought a gimp on.

He was like so pissed. And I was like, oh, yeah, you can't tell people you like me if you go on morning TV. I'm not like well liked. I love this battle of the battle against the morning TV. It's hilarious. It's also, but the question, though, too, if you, there are some of these shows, I'm sure, like is it like a catch-22? Because you go and you get the, that's what social media can do today.

Where back in the day, you couldn't, if you did something like that, you publish just gets maddy. You don't get booked on a show. You don't have anything to really show for it, right? Yeah. Where now you can say, I don't give a shit. Last thing I did, did two, three, four million views on it. And nobody even knew. what the hell this show was and now they do you kind of have that in your back pocket right

i don't think they're happy with that but yeah i mean it works for me yeah it definitely works for me i mean they but then you get on bigger ones and she's like i got you on morning joe you can't you can't you can't fuck up on this one is a big and i'm just like it's really hard for me not to fuck up though now like now you said i can't help it that is a low that is a crazy thing to say you can't help it but say sex trafficking over and over again like you can help it you can help You're not helping it. You're not in my skin. You don't know what it's like.

It's gotten difficult for me to, yeah, it's gotten hard. I'm going to do my best, though. Good morning, Joe. We'll see. Oh, okay. That hasn't happened. When does that happen? Friday.

See, now I want to tune into it. Now I want to tune into it. Now I want to find out of Pam's like, don't encourage them. Is there anything that's off limits for you, like, topic-wise? Christian, I had this conversation years ago. We were hosting a morning show for a Collider. And Christian was like, anything can be funny but not everything is funny but anything can be at the time i was like i mean

that's wrong and now i'm like yeah i think that's probably right do you think there's anything that can't be funny is there any topic that you're like i'm not touching that with a 10-football no anything can be funny i mean it's just your approach what you're making fun of i i there's certain things that i'm not able to make funny right now but it doesn't mean i can't make it funny in like a year and that goes for i think most comics so no nothing's off limits yeah george carlin always said it But it's got to be, it's got to be, it's got to be right and it's got to be true to who I am. And it's got to be like, you know, I think when I was a brand new comic, I would say anything for a laugh. And then you kind of like, no, I want this to feel like it to me.

I want this to be like, I want to be, you rule out a lot of things you wouldn't rule out as like a novice, I think. Yeah. I agree with you for sure. That's what we used to talk about on that show is, I remember George Carlin basically saying that, which is you, anything can be, like anything can be funny, but not anyone can make it funny. And it's like, it just depends on your approach. And that's what, again, going back to our earlier conversation, to where you have a thing about you, where there are things that I've seen other comedians try to tackle certain subjects that you were tackling. And they, and it failed miserably because they

just don't have the, whether it's a charm, whether it's an indication, a tone in their voice, a way that they reflect their words. It's all, it's everything. It's, it's like a, I was just having a conversation with some, a musician recently. And it's, it's very, similar to that and people don't understand that that it is it's music what you're doing on that stage and you're navigating the energy you're navigating your tone and you're but you're also got to make sure the shit that you're saying you believe in it and that you want to talk about it so if it's not funny it's because you didn't make it funny or you're not able to make that particular thing funny yeah I'll also say something that I don't necessarily agree

with for a joke but it's got to feel right it's got to be like clearly fun you know there's certain things uh someone's a joke will make me realize what I do believe though too sometimes I'll write something like oh I guess I feel that way yeah that came but then sometimes I'll write up but I don't feel that way but it's pretty fucking funny I'm gonna say you know uh so yeah there's it's it's tough but uh there's things I said as an 18 year old that I wouldn't say now because I don't think I'm just a different person than I was then I mean hence the name of the special right so it's like oh yeah so excited to talk about our next sponsor here too

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relationships. And I found myself getting into that pickle. as many comedians have where it's like, okay, there's something I can talk about here that when I get home, I'm going into my set tonight in a relationship, but I might come home single. That happens all the time. And you talk about a lot of stuff in this one with your relationships. Do you find yourself still getting into that?

Or does your, does your girlfriend know, like, no, I get it? It's usually cool. I mean, I've definitely been in relationships where they're like, I've also had them like get furious at a joke. And then they over time are like it's all right and you have to like decide which battles to pick like I will never run a bit by my girlfriend Right god damn that's a lot oh that's a better angle it's a good happy accident Happy accident really good yeah better better every that's I'm fucking but yeah but yeah but yeah I've got a weird angle my face Look at that. It looks fucking weird so let's get back down I guess but yeah, but um

No I'll never run a bit by someone I'm dating because it might not work and now we just are fighting over a joke that might be shit. So it's got to work. And then if it works and I really like it, I'm like, hey, can I run one by you? But I've had it where they just see it live and they're just like, really? That's what you know, they're like annoyed. I have a new one that I think is pretty funny. I had a couple that were, the one in the special that the girl I'm seeing now got really

annoyed with, but then started laughing. It's like a fake annoyed. Yeah. But the one about the penis being a guard dog, that's like a great relationship. It's a hundred percent. I think. I was really happy with that one. Yeah.

And that one I was so into. The worst is when it kills once and then you tell it to him. And they're like, you fucking asshole. And then you tell it again and it just eat shit. And you're like, God damn it. I needed you guys to back me up. I needed you to back me up. And they didn't back you up.

This joke was in. Yeah. So you got to tell it a few times. Yeah. be like, all right, let me run one by you. Yeah. But I've definitely, like, stop sex to be like, fuck, I got to write this down.

I'm sorry, I just got to write this down. Is that real what you just said? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, just let me fucking, or I'll be like, or I'll say it while we're fucking. I'm like, you just can't let me forget that word. It'll be like a trigger word, yeah. Does that work well for you?

No, they're furious, but like I, it's important to me. Like, I get so upset if I think of something's funny. Fuck, I had one somewhere. I wonder what the joke was. I wrote something down. and yeah, no, they don't love this. No, I can't imagine, but that was pretty amazing.

Dude, I loved that joke about the, it's so true, because it's like, I have been in that, I've been married now since 2010, and still, like, you have a couple of those times where you're like, oh, it's just not working out tonight. I'm like, what's wrong? We haven't done it in like a month, and how can you're not super excited? I'm like, it's you. It's you. I understand.

And so my buddy Brett Sheridan has the same thing. He's like my wife, he's got this great bed. He walks in and his wife is buck naked. She's got a bow on her. It's like, oh, she's like, I got a present for you. He walks in. He goes, oh, great. Present I opened up a thousand times before.

And it's like, it's like, it's the same. It is. I can't stand you guys right now. I take back everything I said. I'm not a fan of either of yours. Fair enough. So what are they supposed to do? The same goes for me.

It's a relationship. It's this shit goes, you know, when you're seeing someone. for a while, I think the excitement obviously is not there. If you eat the same if you eat like steak once, you're like, holy shit, this is great, but if you're even steak for lunch, dinner,

look at the movie Super Size Me. He lost his enthusiasm for McDonald's by the end of that one. You think that sex is like Super Size Me? Yes. I do. That's absolutely incredible. Roxy, I love watching

your face work because I think You know what I'm thinking, Christian. 100% I know what you're thinking. And you're becoming more of a fan of Sam as we're having a conversation. No, this is the problem I have in every relationship. They love me from afar, but then once they get to know me, they're like, this guy fucking sucks. I mean, I just lost a fan because Roxy showed up to this show. No, never.

I really am a fan, so you can't lose a real fan. It is the truth. Yeah. Absolutely. And you're part of my tribe. Okay, so I did want to know from you, which is I'm sure your favorite subject to talk about right now. How are you feeling about Jew shit?

Like right now you said you can make everything funny. I think that with the state of the world, it's a really difficult thing to make funny. And also you're getting heckled on stage and you're not even bringing up the Middle East. How are you feeling? Well, the clip I went viral about the woman screaming Free Palestine. My set was actually

like, it's an old clip. It's funny that that happened. So that went viral again, I guess, but I didn't. That was just like, that was an old clip that I just kind of was like, I thought it was pretty gentle with it. I, you know, I'm just, I just thought it was funny to yell out, uh, I'm making a public statement. And I think I said at the Omaha funny bone, like I was playing a fucking comedy club. Like, all right, I guess this is the big gig in town tonight. I don't know. But, uh, you know, I think as I said, anything's funny. I haven't, I've done a couple jokes about what's going on, but like, they're not really strong enough to make the act. So it's not off a limit. It's just like, if I go there, I do feel attention. which I'm fine with, but then the payoff has got to be worth it. And I think with these jokes, they are glad they went there on these topics. So I want to stay true to that model of just jokes.

And I don't want to put people off for the sake of putting them off. So if I come up with a good joke, then I'll tell it. But it's tough because it's ongoing what's going on right now. It's not like, it's like if 9-11 was just, it's just kept going. So it's hard to be like, hey, do you see what? happened with, you know, 9-11 today? And it was like, what? You do your fucking asshole. So it takes a second. I did a Boston bombing joke, I think, like two days after. And I remember the tension and how tight the room was at the comedy cellar. I did it in New York. I did it

in my half hour special in Boston. Had it fucking bombed, no pun intended in Boston. But in the cellar, it fucking murdered. And I paused. I said, man, I was so mad what happened. I got so upset when I saw what happened in Boston and I could just feel attention I go because my first thought was me and my brother we don't do anything together anymore and that crushed at the seller and I was like wow that release was huge and then I did the Boston and I think they were just tight yeah and then I got it back but I was like wow they didn't love that one but I've told it in Boston since it does fine it was I think that setting but it wasn't like a perfect joke it was just like a good topical one I thought yeah I mean I'm a Boston girl and that wouldn't have upset me but but I definitely think it's probably about choosing your timing. Do you, when you, like, are up at night thinking about this, is there a joke that haunts you or something that you're like, that really bombed? Why did I do that?

No. I mean, there's sets that I'm like, I wish went better. But like, no, jokes are supposed to miss. I mean, if you're doing new stuff, you're going to miss. And that's fine. You've got to shake it off. It's like, I think it's like an athlete having a bad shooting night. You just got to, you're like, all right, well,

They usually go in, so I'm going to keep shooting. You can't focus on misses, really. You just have to be like, well, can I change this? Can I alter this? Or is it just a goner? Yeah, it's just like getting parts to a car, just kind of building it up. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

So, you know, one of the things that I was, anytime I seen, especially from New Yorkers who were, you lived, you were born in Manhattan? Yeah. Okay. So the thing that always hits for me is when I hear, was able to do, Madison Square Garden was able to do I'm able to do a garden like that to me is just I can't even imagine you mentioned it on the you crack a joke about it on stage about what an achievement it is you know and it is so tell me about that and tell me about first of all finding out about it and then the actual

because you did it last November correct yeah and look finding out about it's not the biggest deal because now comes the pressure we have to fill it up so you know anyone can be like I'm gonna play it yeah the question or not anyone but like a lot of people can be like I I want to play it. But then you're like, well, if I don't fill it, then who gives this shit? No one, it's not an achievement to like sell half of it. I mean, it's still a lot of tickets, but it's not like an achievement. So, and no one wants to walk into that day that's supposed to be special and feel like you underachieve.

Like, that would be awful, you know, because I've seen comics do that. They're doing really well. And for whatever reason, their agents putting them in like too big of rooms. And they're working hard and they're doing well. And they don't feel good about themselves because they're not. They're not selling the tickets that they're expecting to. So I think you want to have an agent who knows what you're capable of. And I think that one, like, you know, I'd just done the beacon, I think a year before or so.

And he was confident that I could do it. And yeah, I mean, that was a pretty cool night. I mean, it's a pretty iconic building to walk into. You know, it was the theater. It wasn't with the Knicks play, but it was still like a lot of seats. So it was pretty nice. Still, it's incredible. So congratulations on that, because I know how much that means, too, in general for New Yorkers and just comedians in general.

But speaking of the Knicks and you do a lot of stuff sports-wise too for and did what about what, I mean, this season with the Knicks. I mean, they did what they could. They did pretty damn good. I didn't expect them to, from what they were doing. Nothing like the Celtics, but okay. Stop it. Stop it. They would.

Go ahead. Have you talk. It's okay. Have your conversation. I'm going to cut you out of this shot, Roxie. It's just me and Sam right now. So tell me about this season with the Knicks because it must have been, I mean,

it was pretty magical to see what they did. What they were playing, and Roxy, they're played by injuries, so you're lucky. That I know. They were, yeah. No, look, I mean, that was tough to see them go down like that

and, you know, a war of attrition, right? They were just, they were dropping, they would drop it one after another. So that was tough to see. and Brunson is incredible. I love the squad. I love the Nova guys, all of them.

Tough to lose hardest time, but we got bridges now. And I think they've just got to get another backup big, but I'm so pumped. It's so unfair that we have to wait, what, five months? I know, five months. But, dude, I just remember from where we, I mean, from being in L.A. and watching, like, tuning in, like,

oh, maybe this is going to be. And I remember when Carmelo came, and everyone's like, oh, this is going to be it. It's going to be the turnaround. And it wasn't. And we got so close. to getting scurry back in the draft.

All those things I do. There was this chance. There was this chance. And now it's like, what? I actually think we're, I think we're here. I think we're in that phase of the Knicks now where it's, now I know,

Roxy, you can smile. Look at that smug. You guys will be fine. You guys will be fine. No, don't worry. That is smug. That is smug. That is smug.

But you're, but you're a, you're, your Knicks, your giants, your Yankees. Yeah. I'm, um, all New York in Rangers. But Knicks are the ones that I'm the most obsessed with. New York's such a basketball town.

It is. Yeah. And so how did you end up getting that gig, by the way, for working, doing some of the Knicks? When I had a show in their network back in the day? Well, I think they just wanted like a late night show after the games and stuff. And, you know, they came to the right guy. I'm a psycho fans.

I was like, oh, I just have to show up twice a week and I get to interview like John Starks and like all my favorite athletes. So that was, yeah, it was a great game. and then you start playing some of the venues that they own are garden affiliates and they and they notice and they say like we should do stuff and it's I think they they see that I'm such a hardcore fan so uh and I and I love them when they're not good too which is not the same for everybody so uh there's nothing I hate more than Fairweather fans I'm not sure Nazis are worse but you know what I mean like but they're up there they're up there yeah no I'm with you uh Yeah, Rex. Well, I want to go back to MSG for a second, or we could go down the Nazi path if we wanted to keep going that way. But you talked a little bit in your special about somebody who wanted to come see you perform that you didn't necessarily want to see you perform. Is there anybody that you would, like, just die over if they came to one of your shows, like anybody that you hope is a huge fan of yours?

I don't, not really. I mean, I'm grateful that anyone comes out, honestly. I mean, I get kind of amped up for the gigs that are kind of more out of the beaten path. So off the beaten path, like just in Rochester, New York over the weekend, I was like, man, I love those shows. I kind of like when I feel, I love going back to clubs and working out because we did theaters last year. And it's kind of fun of just being clubs and just have a little less pressure, smaller and more intimate, feel like I can fuck around a little more. But you never have like a celebrity who shows up and is like, I'm a big fan yours. And you're like, that's cool.

I just did Garden of Laf at MSG Theater and that's like their benefit show So it was just like so many famous people there in the crowd And I and I had a really good set So that was like oh that was pretty cool Like I got off and John Starks was like man I gotta come to you when you're around the city I'm like fucking John Starks

That was like my guy so Yeah no I remember That night was a lot of like cool And it was like cool New York people who came up to me like So that was that was yeah it's cool i mean like i watch so much you know new york sports that it's cool and they're like they like what i do too because i'm obviously a fan yeah um what do you what do you what do you what do you go to clubs in uh in the city that you it's mostly just the seller these days

just because i'm on the road a lot and i i live by the seller but uh you know there's a lot of clubs i i i i've got them guys are always so good i just i just said i just said christmasilli on the show yeah i'll pop it in your comedy club i'll do other stuff but the seller is more. But yeah, the mazilians have always been great to me. I love those guys. Yeah, he's great. And do you get out to L.A. at all? Like you said, no, you're traveling most of the time, so you just stop off in New York. I was just there. I did the Bray Improv, and I did the Irvine Improv a few months before that. Yeah, and I was there a few times last year. But yeah, I don't come to a ton, but yeah, I did a few stops last year.

What do you think about L.A. as a crowd? I love my crowd I love. I mean, I think, you know, when it's like a more of a random L.A. crowd that's not there for me, then they're, they're, sometimes they're not my, sometimes they're jaded. Like, I feel like L.A. is like they're around famous people so much they don't appreciate it. Like I remember, I've seen famous people go up in L.A., like really famous people,

and they're just like, I'm like, that's a fuck. You should be excited to see that. Yeah. So every once in a while, I'm kind of like, all right, you know. I love Chris Rock, but you guys are, I guess, like, used to this shit? I don't know. Is he your favorite working comedian?

I don't have like one. I love Chris Rock, though. Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of comics I love. I love David Tell. There's a ton of Colin Quinn in New York is fun to watch. Legend. His show is always.

There's so many I love. Yeah. And there's so many, you know, I love comedy. But, L.A. crowds are cool. As I said, I love my crowd in L.A. This is a weird question. I almost shot in L.A. I thought about it.

Oh, really? Yeah, but Wilbur felt right. There's two theaters I love. And I, you know, I do love, there's a few in L.A. that I love, but then there's one in Seattle I love two called The Moore. So maybe the next one will be L.A. or see, maybe I'll do a West Coast one for the first time. Which is the one in L.A.?

I'm sorry, did you say? Well, the Wiltern was awesome last year. Yeah, that was really cool. So I had a good time there. So maybe that'll be the next one. Maybe the Moore. I don't know. That's a good one.

I agree with you about a lot of L.A. being jaded. Even though I've been here 15 years now, I don't think I'm one of them. I feel like I pinch myself every time I see somebody that I grew up absolutely loving. Does it feel crazy that these are your peers? Like Chris Rock is somebody that you love and that's your peer. Well, I don't think of him as my peer. I think he's like, you know, I mean, shit, they're extras in the same movie as Robert Downey Jr. I don't think. I don't think he's like, that's my peer, you know, so I mean. I think you're like, I think you got more props than an extra right now. You know what I mean?

I love Chris Rock. I'm a big fan, but I don't, I think he's like in another class. And, you know, if I see him at a club, he's always like really cool, but I don't, I don't think of it like that. I think he's, you know, he's a legend and I'm, and I'm still trying to, you know, make a name and build a catalog of special. Well, yeah, because look, and this is the way that we, you would talk about it. He's, he's paid, he's paid his dues to get the legend status.

You know, he's been around. Of course. Yeah. And so you've been building up. You're doing these specials and you're making, like you said, you are making a name for yourself and doing exactly that. But what was it? And I guess like, because when you're growing up and you mentioned your pops.

For me, I used to watch, I mean, I used to watch the specials on HBO with the Dangerfield specials. I used to watch all these with my dad. And my dad was the one that I would, he was really, well, the first time I'd actually got, Carlin and Carnegie was the first thing that I ever saw with a buddy of mine who was like, hey, check this guy out. And I was like, and it was the filthiest language I had heard as a kid. and I thought he was so goofy and silly

and I loved him. It's not safe, Christian? He's not safe. George Carlin was not safe. And so watching that and then watching those specials, that's how I fell in love with it, Bill Hicks and, you know, all these guys like both. Yeah, I loved all those guys.

I mean, yeah, I remember Bill Hicks really felt like he was really calling out bullshit in such a cool way. I love watching the Hicks. I mean, the Hicks albums where he's playing like these kind of middle and nowhere to fly and saucer tour stuff. stuff is pretty incredible because he uh i mean he just had all the chops and the creativity i mean he was he was a real comic i love same goes for all the guys you mentioned but uh yeah dangerfield for sure uh back to schools like my common watches a hundred times so good i the scene i love

that every character in that movie just serves to set up his jokes like his wife's his wife's like you're impossible oh yeah and you're easy you know like every line is just like zay and everyone. And, I mean, I love Dangerfield. He takes me to, like, a happy place. So many of those movies growing up, like, the silliness of, like, you know, Adam Sandler as a kid,

my brother would, like, throw on Billy Madison, and it was like, as a kid, I was like, oh, my God, I can't believe a guy gets to behave this way. Or dumb and dumber, or, you know, Beverly Hills Cop. Or my brother loved this movie called Opportunity Knox of David Carvey. So we watched it, like, 20 times. I love that one.

I've heard him say he's like ashamed in that movie. Really? I loved it. Yeah. It's true. I thought it was, I thought he was amazing at it.

But yeah, all those, you know, and then of course, stand up, I said rock and Hicks, as you just said, all those guys.

And then there was like the New York crop that I really took to. And so, yeah, I consumed comedy like crazy. And like, I was obsessive,

for sure. It was probably annoying to my parents how much I had only want to watch comedy. Well, I mean, you talked about it before when you said when you were talking about how crafting the joke you can see it's

in the same in the same way that i remember like what Tyson you talk about back and that he would talk you would watch the dempsey fights and you'd watch all the old fighters and watching and like you got to be obsessive to learn the craft right you got to learn like there's certain ways and and you said it also earlier what you don't want to do is you don't want to tell the joke the way that that person would you want to make it your own but that doesn't mean you can't you can't learn from who came before you in certain ways the way that they move the bodies the way that they say certain things the way that they go for certain things. I think it's all relevant. You talk about, oh, go ahead. Oh, no, no. I was just saying yeah.

Just yeah. You're talking about building your career and just continuing to put in the miles. And I am curious, other than your special and future specials, I know you've done a couple shows, open mic or in the movie The Joker, which is a great one. Is that something you want to do more of? movies, television, more acting? Yeah, no, I don't want to just be an actor. That doesn't really interest me. I don't find it really stimulating, but if it's stuff that I wrote, I would like to act in it.

So, you know, we've, I've written a couple of things that I think are going to get rolling at some point. I'm going to, it's a different type of business. We have to be a little more patient, and I'm not good at that. But, yeah, I wrote a movie and I'm working on TV show, so I hope they both. I hope they both get made, but we'll see. Cool. Well, Sam, it was absolutely, it was great to have you on, man.

I'm glad that you're able to do it. The special Samarol, you've changed. It is on, you can get it on Amazon Prime. So make sure you do it, check it out. It's a really, really good specialist, and I'm happy that you're able to come on and talk to us about it, man. Thanks for having me. All right.

All right, guys, so make sure you check it out, and we'll see you later. Cool. All right, Sam. Thanks, brother. I really appreciate you. We're both of you. Thank you so much. Thank you.

We're going to put it up right when this special comes out. Awesome. Thanks, brother. Thanks, guys. All right. Thank you to our sponsors. By the way, if you want to help out the show, if you like what we're doing here, and you want to keep us going, and you like these things that I'm showing you,

then get one of our wonderful sponsors. It gets you something, gives you something that you're going to like, and it helps out the show tremendously. I want to thank Sam for being on the show, and want to thank him for. for, yeah, just hanging out with us. And Roxy was so excited. And Roxy said, it was so nice to do another interview with Roxy. We haven't done one in a while. We used to do it all the time at Collider Live.

So it was nice to be able to bounce back and forth and talk to Sam about it. And I told you when I asked him and I said, he's not safe. He didn't like it. That's what I like about Sam. He's like, I don't want to be, I don't want to be recognized as a not safe. Like I'm just taking the, like I'm just doing it to do it. And it's not what I was inferring. but I absolutely understand the point he was making.

But I stand by the fact that I was like, I like that the guy takes risks. And to him, he's just talking. And that's what I like about him. It's just there. And it's not a matter of the clean comedians. There's tons of great clean comedians. That's not what I was saying at all.

There are people that sometimes that they won't, they're not themselves on stage. And they get into this kind of comedy voice thing where they feel like they should be doing something to, you know, further themselves in their career in a way that people are going to notice them or they're going to get on television

and they're not taking chances. And that's what I meant by that. And I stand by it. Sam is one of those comics that just says what's on his mind and doesn't worry about repercussions, nor should he. And he's not doing it just to do it.

And I like the new special. And you should check it out. You should watch it today. The link's in there as far as where to find it. And if you're on Amazon, you should go and you should check it out. So once again, click, like, comment, talk to us about what you liked about the interview. We have tons of stuff coming up, man. As I said, we got more interviews coming up pretty soon.

I got Robert Eiler from the Sopranos for the 25th year anniversary, AJ, soprano himself. He's coming in studio. So we're going to have a conversation he and I about that and a ton of stuff. So I'm pumped about that one. I got some other ones lined up that are coming up. And I think you guys are going to be pretty pumped about it. So thank you for being here on Apple. We're on Spotify where everywhere podcasts are found.

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