The Kristian Harloff Show - SCRAPPED Plans For Plagueis! Fall Out From The Acolyte Cancelation?!

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

The fallout from The Acolyte cancelation continues! Today on The Kristian Harloff Show, Kristian and the crew break down brand-new details about the scrapped plans for Darth Plagueis and Manny Jacinto...'s "Stranger" (Qimir) that would've been explored in future seasons of the Star Wars series. What could this have meant for the Sith lore—and does this confirm The Acolyte's fate at Lucasfilm? We're also diving into a packed slate of movie and TV news: STAR WARS: We Now Know What Would Have Become Of Qimir Had THE ACOLYTE Continued Beyond One Season "Supergirl" Additional Photography Underway? "Springsteen" Box-Office Ain't Glory Days Taylor Sheridan Sets Megadeal At Universal? Renner Not In The Next Two "Avengers" Join the conversation LIVE and let us know your thoughts in the chat—should The Acolyte have continued? What's next for Star Wars and these big Hollywood deals? #TheAcolyte #StarWars #DarthPlagueis #Qimir #KristianHarloff #Supergirl #Springsteen #TaylorSheridan #Avengers #MovieNews #Lucasfilm #HBO #Disney #Marvel #DC #PopCulture SPONSORS: CASH APP -  Download Cash App Today: https://capl.onelink.me/vFut/76rlxe00 #cashapppod .  Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Direct Deposit, Overdraft Coverage and Discounts provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit http://cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. RIDGE WALLET - Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code KRISTIAN at https://www.Ridge.com/KRISTIAN #ridgepod 

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Starting point is 00:00:30 all right so what were the plans for doth plagus uh there's some news what was going to happen with him and other things if acolyte season two would have went down it welcome to dairy it debuted last night uh how did it do what do people think what did i think i don't know if roca saw we'll find out taylor sheridan just set a huge mega deal universal so we'll discuss that supergirl has some um shoots some reshoots, the standard reshoots, you think? I believe so. And the box office.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Some things did good, some things did bad. That's usually what you get. So we'll discuss it. Myself and John Roker on the Monday show here today. Let's get into it. Christian Harlow Show. Here we go. Welcome back to the show, everybody.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Christian Harleff show here today on this Monday, joining me on this show. Hello, everyone. I think that's John Roker. Yeah, how are you? Sorry, I got, it does this thing sometimes. It just, like, cuts it off. Sometimes it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Sometimes it does. It's so stupid. So, John Rokas, how was your, how was your weekend, sir? It was good. It was a birthday weekend. You know, I believe it. Thank you. Same back to you, of course, from a few days ago.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Lady Outlaw took me to a nice restaurant, but did not check that it was a vegan restaurant. So I tried out vegan steak for the first time in my life. I got to say, I'm not trying to promote this product, but the beyond steak filet that they just debuted a few months ago had made it to this restaurant and it is excellent. I was so surprised. Well, I got good news.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I got really good news for you. Go ahead. When you and I get steak, I will not be choosing a vegan steak. So you think. For our choices, so I think exactly. You'll take me. I won't even know. I'll check the menu.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Well, good. I'm glad you had a good weekend as well. We did a good weekend as well. Yeah, we just did some stuff with the kids. But I watched a few things. You know, I finished, I finally finished up Eleanor the Great, which I think, if I'm looking at that CCA app so far, the only thing I've seen that I think, I mean, maybe I can be convinced otherwise that I've seen so far that's on that app, outside of the animation stuff that has nominations of is June, is Squibb for Eleanor the Great. Yeah. Potentially.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Did you see it yet? No, I've not seen that one yet. I know Houseful of Dynamite also debuted on Netflix. So I wonder if that's being contentioned this week is. soon to be as well. I'm going to check that out as well. But then the other ones that I watched on, I watched, I'll tell you what I did like.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I just don't, I just don't think it has a shot for any award stuff. Is the, I think it's called the penguin lessons. Yeah, with Steve Coogan. Yeah, Coogan, right. I like that Steve Coogan, a lot. I like that guy. He's really, he's just a likable dude.
Starting point is 00:03:25 And, um, and he plays this college professor. They find this penguin, it's like the 70s in this war-ridden kind of, uh, country. And he kind of, he's in the penguin. You see, it's a very good character. character study and I like it. I just don't think it's enough to do award stuff. It's just like a nice it's a nice story. Um, the other one I watched. I'm gonna get you in trouble a little bit. Chris, you know, because there's nothing on the CCA app that he sees that could be nominated from the big no, no, no, that I haven't seen as far as I'm not talking about sinners. I'm not talking about superman. I'm not talking about the ones that you know, the big, I'm talking about new ones that I really hadn't heard of. Like there's someone's like I didn't pay attention to those because I've seen him already. But yes, super male will get nominated. I'm sure for like effects and stuff and um, and sinners will be nominated for sure for sure yes i was talking about the outside stuff that i hadn't seen what else you see so i watched a movie called splitsville did you see this yeah the dakota johnson
Starting point is 00:04:20 one yeah so i'm watching this i knew nothing about this here we go right here we go so have you watch it no i've not i've not watched this one do you know anything i'm not i really am not do you know anything about this movie i think she's supposed to choose between two people or something or is it two All right. So it opens up. And here is Adrian Arjona. And this guy who's kind of like, what's this guy from Stepbrothers, Thomas Riley?
Starting point is 00:04:50 Oh, yeah, John C. Riley. John C. Riley. Thomas Riley. John C. Riley. It's not John C. Riley, but it's like a, you know, I hate to say, because this guy's, this guy's talented, but he's like a T. Timu version of John C. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Okay. Right. And so he, this guy's married to a Gajarjona. And I'm like, okay, that's a stretch, but I'll, I'll buy it, right, for now. And then they wind up getting into this thing. And he, and they, she wants, she wants out of the marriage. And it's, it's, first of all, it's like a screwball comedy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:19 But it's, but it's mixed with dramatic moments, which is, which was interesting. Let me preface it by saying that I enjoyed the film. Let me preface it. And so then he winds up going to where they're on the way to this, Summerhouse and that they're friends, but Dakota Johnson and this other guy who looks like a T-mo version of Oscar Isaac and somebody else. And I'm like, all right, how is she married to him?
Starting point is 00:05:45 I'm like, I don't understand. And they're both very good in the movie. Yes. And I'm watching them going, wait a minute, because we stopped there for about an hour after watching. The one guy, the Thomas Riley guy, whatever, Thomas Riley, I call him. Because John C. Riley's real one.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Thomas Riley is this guy. This guy shows his dick like three or four times in the move. Okay. And I'm going and it's all about how he's got a big dick. And I'm like, oh, okay. All right. Right. And then after about an hour, I'm like, okay, how did, how did this guy land in Georgia, Jonah?
Starting point is 00:06:18 How did this guy land? I'm like, they must have directed and wrote this movie. They had to her. And sure as shit, they did. Of course they did. They wrote, they wrote a director of them. All right. And I'm like, at no point did they mention, hey, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:32 of a guy like me could land a girl and to be to their credit they absolutely put that in there oh they did oh good 100% because sometimes they don't put it no no no they did they did and it there's there's there's a couple laugh out loud moments but you're like clearly they're you know they're taken their shot because they hadn't done anything I'll tell you for what I want to do with my pilot it's very very inspiring oh I see because I was like okay maybe maybe these were guys that had been in a whole bunch of things before and then, you know, say, hey, you know, now, now we're taking the transition. They weren't barely in anything. Right. They were barely in anything. And they got this made. And then I looked to go to Johnson and Ajona got executive producer credits, which you're going to.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Otherwise, you're going to break the budget to get you two, the hottest actress is working today. Right. Right. Popular. And, you know, it was, it was inspiring. And there are some moments that are really funny and it was well written. It doesn't have a chance at anything. And I don't think in, overall. But it's, but still, I just, I thought it was an inspiring movie, especially considering what I'm trying to do right now. Yeah. And, you know, I like the fact that they took the shot and they made this screwball comedy. I don't know where. So there you go. Yeah, well, the guy who wrote it, and directed it is, he did a film called The Climb. Okay. Years ago, which was just focusing on like these guys who were part of a bicycle race, like a, okay. The France type thing, which got a lot of
Starting point is 00:07:55 great reviews. I enjoy it. So maybe that's where, so they got some buzz off of that. Right. Both of the guys. were in that movie. So I think they just wanted to work together. And they were in their buzz. But of course, to be fair, reading just the synopsis, it's Adjara Jonah who asks for a divorce that starts this whole conversation about marriages and open relationships, which is clearly the subject matter from the weekend because Lily Allen's album dropped over
Starting point is 00:08:19 the weekend where she called out David Harbor for their open relationship. Oh, it went down. I don't know if you saw that. So open relationships is a big thing that people are talking about now. It's trending. Yeah. in the younger generations, they're looking at all this stuff. Well, no, thanks.
Starting point is 00:08:32 No, no, no, no, no, I, I, no, no, I, no, no, I, no, but I'll tell you, it's, if you look, if you look at, like, how the movie pans out, you know, they answer a lot of different things. So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, if, I just, I would tell people it's worth, it's worth, because it's, and there are some very funny moments in it, and you have to, you've got to kind of understand what the tone is, um, but that's it. Um, but far be able to cast women that they'd be kind of in league with. No, it's what I'm just saying. It was like, it was just so you could tell, like, immediately where, but the first time the guy, look, the first time when the guy Shlong is hanging out, it's actually a very funny bit.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Okay. It's the first time it happens, it's hilarious. And the second time, you're like, I get it, dude. You're proud of your Johnson. And you want to show that Johnson. You know, I get it. I get it. And then the third time, you're like, all right, come on.
Starting point is 00:09:18 We get it. We get it. You're proud of your bits and pieces and you wrote it in there that you wanted to show two hot actresses of your bits and pieces. It's pretty, it's pretty clear. because the second and third bit there's no reason for it the first one 100 percent like i'll give you i'm gonna spoil i'm gonna give a spoiler because it's hilarious okay it's for people who do i'm she's jerking them off in the car oh on the way and they get into this car accident right and then something happens to the people in the car accident right because she was jerking them off
Starting point is 00:09:52 and she goes and they go there and the cops were like asking questions about what happened. And, you're trying to, sir, why should penis out? It's funny. It's very funny.
Starting point is 00:10:04 The other times he's just in a shower and it's like, we get it. We get it. But anyway, so that was my weekend. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah. I'll tell you, you know, we should jump into, we're talking about weekends and movies and everything to it. Sure.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Just jump right into box office. Okay, let's do it. Might as well. Because I'm not surprised by a lot of these numbers. I don't know if you're going to feel the same. But we'll go into, we'll do basically what we do every week here.
Starting point is 00:10:31 And we go over the, it's like the, almost like the preview that Dark Horizon is done. And we'll show the actual numbers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's start with, with this. All right. So they really hit Springsteen here. Springsteen box office ain't glory days. Yikes.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Though he delivered a number of worldwide hits, but essentially American rocker Bruce Springsteen hasn't been able to translate into box office success. The biopic, Springsteen delivered me from. Nowhere was released in multiple markets this weekend alongside in U.S. release and is bombing. Tyler earned just $7 million overseas at the same time as domestic debut is coming in smaller than projected, slipping slightly to 9.1 and in fourth place. Budgeted at $55 million, the film's audience exit scores haven't been strong with the blame, going less on the filmmakers or cast, rather it's subject matter,
Starting point is 00:11:19 namely the choice to focus on spring scenes depression in his art house album, Nebraska. While critics may love it, the album has none of the major hits that made him a global superstar. Crunchyrolls anime chainsaw man res arc is topping the US box office this weekend with projections at the 17.2 and the film already opened last month in some global or dipped 108 worldwide. Blackphone 2 looking this is where they're giving the projection. So I'm going to actually give the actual numbers of what we got here. And as you see, Chainsaw Man, the movie is 17.3, as they said, Blackphone 2 at 13. Regretting you. Do you see this one, John?
Starting point is 00:11:55 Regretting you? Yeah. No, it's a Colleen Hoover. Yeah, I saw it. I saw it. I saw, I've actually seen all these except chainsaw, man. Springsteen delivering me from nowhere 9.1, Tron, Ares, trying to stay alive. What does that thing have?
Starting point is 00:12:09 123 worldwide. Good luck. And then the rest of it, let's see. Good fortune at number six with three million. Chris Duckman, Shelby Oaks. Come in seventh place with 2.3. Eighth is one battle. after another nine roofman and 10th truth and treason all right john what stands out dude um not much
Starting point is 00:12:35 everything seemed to pretty much be what was being predicted ahead of time i am sad about the deliver me for no from nowhere situation but i'm not surprised i mean again this is something that you have to be aware of when you're greenlighting these films uh christian we've seen so many examples people who are big or content or IP that was big in the 70s and 80s doesn't necessarily transfer over to the younger generation. And this film is an unusual biopic. I've seen some reviewers. I was watching The Ringers, and they were just so,
Starting point is 00:13:08 Amanda Dobbins and Yassi Salik were so dismissive of the film. It drove me insane because I think younger critics just aren't into the Springsteen stuff, are not connecting with the movie. And so it's no surprise that there's a lot of people who didn't necessarily want to go and see the film. And the film, when you read the review, it's very clear the film is not like this rousing coming back from the dead to shock the world type of film. It's much more of a contemplative exploration of mental health and depression. And it is a dark film. And it is a quiet film. It's a slow moving film. And there are only occasional moments of like,
Starting point is 00:13:43 yeah, you know, it's much more about an actor's piece. And I think that's in the end, that's what bit the film in the ass. And there are legitimate criticisms of the movie. I can certainly take that, but I think in the end, the subject matter, the guy, Springsteen hasn't had a hit in years. And I think people have kind of just, it's a smaller group of people who go see it. And the people who will go see it, stay at home and they'll see it in three weeks or in a month, you know? So I think that's what in the end bit that film in the ass. And look, Jeremy Allen White is great, but he's right now a TV guy. He's not a theatrical guy yet. And so no surprise that people didn't go and see it. I'm shocked.
Starting point is 00:14:19 it cost $55 million to make that movie because I watch that movie twice now. I've seen it twice. I went to get on Sunday. Yeah, I love Springsteen. You know, and I bought the book. I'm going to get it from Barnes & Noble today. I ordered it. But I just, you know, I don't know where $55 million is on that screen.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Like, I really don't. That, to me, is a $20 million movie. It looks like a $20 million movie. So it must have been the salaries because I just don't understand. Salaries, maybe concert stuff. Music maybe. I don't know. Two or three concert scenes and everything else is at the Stone Pony.
Starting point is 00:14:53 It's true. It's small. Yeah. So I will say this. There's not much that you said there that I don't agree with. I mean, I really do. I mean, I'm a huge spring scene guy. I took my uncle who's also a Springsteen guy to see it.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And the thing that he said afterwards, too, it was funny because I had shot my out of the theater and there was something wrong with the camera. So shit, I got to do it again. So he goes real quick. you know what you should put in there is that it answered a lot of questions, unanswered questions about that album to Springsteen fans. And it did. And you know what's funny is that, yes, they chose to choose, they chose to do the Nebraska album.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah. Which I think was the wrong choice. I enjoyed the movie, but I think that it was the wrong choice because of the fact of everything you just said, that if you're trying to get, it's at $55 million, and you're trying to capture. a new audience for Springsteen.
Starting point is 00:15:50 You've got to show. Don't assume that everybody knows where he came from and how he made it and all that stuff. You've got to show that part of the story. Yeah, I know that it's, that's the standard kind of paint by number by biopics, but that's ultimately why they do very well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:06 The ironic thing is they, what we all maybe wanted is what the audience wanted in 1982 and instead got a smaller contained album we got a smaller contained movie Nebraska this movie reflected that album
Starting point is 00:16:23 and it was to like you said to showcase what was going on mentally with Springsteen and I agree with you so much so if you're trying to get people in the theater the younger audience is not paying tickets to go see this unless you give them something to really get excited for and this ultimately wasn't it. No and plus you've got the darkness of the father's son
Starting point is 00:16:44 issues as well. There's just not a lot of uplifting stuff in the movie, even the relationship with him and the main, his girlfriend, which is an amalgamation or a version of one of the women he was dating at the time, doesn't get, and I agree with you. I agree with you. I think you, 55, that's for the born in the USA, right? Or even go back to Born to Run, right? He really explodes as a super. That's where he started, yeah. 84 took him to the next level. Yes, exactly. Born to run got him there. Right, exactly. Those are the two areas you would profile for $55 million. for Nebraska, which didn't have any hits,
Starting point is 00:17:20 but although I love this album and has great music, $20 million, $25 million should have been tops. Easily, easily. And I think that they were just, they got carried away with, like you said, how big Bruce was at one point. You know, he's still an icon, absolutely. And how, because Bob Dylan got that kind of praise
Starting point is 00:17:38 that they thought they'd probably do the same thing. It was a miss in how they marketed it. It wasn't necessarily a miss on how they shot it. And maybe they accomplished it. And again, the parallels to the movie. They accomplished what they wanted to do. They put out this thing that was clearly passionate to them in the way that that album was passionate to Bruce.
Starting point is 00:17:56 And if they're cool with that, then look, we made something that we're proud of. They're good on them. I was talking to Roxy on Tuesday. I am. We saw it together. Yes. And I am, we are on the total opposite sides of the thing.
Starting point is 00:18:10 She thinks that he will win best Oscar, best actor. I said, no. no way. I said there might be a chance he even gets nominated. And she said, she said, I'm crazy. I said, I said, it just doesn't have that kind of buzz. And I said, it's the same conversation Roke and I were having about Dwayne Johnson and Julie
Starting point is 00:18:29 Roberts. Yeah. It's that those movies, like, I also don't know how anybody thinks now, because of streaming and everything else too. Yeah, I am. How you're going to really get people in the theater. That's why I said the thing about one battle after another. That movie made a lot of money. Yes. For, for what,
Starting point is 00:18:46 it's still going to lose money, because It cost like $170 million to make or whatever it was. Right, right, right. But it did the job. Yes. It did its job. Now, if that movie would have made like $15 million, then that's a big, huge failure. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Right. But for the amount of money that movie is, it made the money of a three-hour movie like that, today's climate is able to make. That is a success. Yeah. Well, and you look at Scott Cooper, maybe he wasn't the right choice for Phil. I think he was the right choice for, for this. For this movie.
Starting point is 00:19:18 For this movie, he was the right choice. But to make a box office success out of this movie, he wasn't necessarily the right choice. Because look at his, I'm looking at his numbers now. Crazy Heart made 47 million, but that's off of, you know, Jeff Bridges. Right. Out of the furnace made 15 million. And you had Christian bail in that. Black Mask, 99 million worldwide.
Starting point is 00:19:36 You have Johnny Depp at the time. Right. And then it was okay. Yeah. Hostels was damn good. Christian bail again, 36 million. Antlers, 35 million. Which one was antlers?
Starting point is 00:19:46 Which one was antlers? That was the horror film from two or three years ago with the kid and the drawings. And God, I can't remember who was the mom. I think Beer Farmeco was the mom. But it was like it came and went. He did not stick around. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:58 So he's not a box office king in terms of getting people to come see his movies. They're much more contemplative darker films, which I like, I like Cooper. But maybe a different director would have found spots to like make it more of a rousing film in the end. And that wasn't there. Well, there you go. And I think that the other ones that are pop it up, you know, I mean, we should talk, we talk about like, so Shelby Oaks just came out, you know, Stuckman's movie. I mean, if you look and I was obviously, I've used, what's that?
Starting point is 00:20:27 I'm seeing that today. Yeah, after a video show, yeah. So obviously I've used him as a major inspiration. I even texted him as much to tell him that of what he was able to accomplish, you know, he got it, he got it done. He got it done. And so he was, his day one goal, or when he set that goal was 250, and they surpassed that in, in a day. And then ultimately, I think it was like 2.2 or whatever. I think it, I think it probably hits you into the close with marketing, probably in the 3, 3.2 million range, I would assume, right?
Starting point is 00:20:56 So right now, it stands at 2.3. Right. So where do you stand on this is a winner or a winner or loss? I think the reviews have been middling. So I think this is not, it's Strachman's directorial debut. And I think those of us in the bubble of this YouTube space, you know, which, you know, you've been part of much longer than me. It's like we think, oh, it's Stuckman, you know, and it's like, well, are people going to go see this kind of movie? Do they trust Stuckman enough to go see a film of his?
Starting point is 00:21:31 And clearly the numbers weren't that strong for a film like this because there's a lot of debut horrors that come out and like shock the world and whatever. But this one was much more of an indie, smaller grassroots type of approach. So I think for what they did, it's fine. but it's not like the rousing success you'd want it to be to really kind of announce Chris. And I see some people, you know, saying franchises should be looking at Chris if they want to do installments of horror films or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And maybe this is something that will open more doors for Chris in the long run. But the thing that matters is that he did it. And not the YouTube or critics make that jump. That's it. That's the, there are, there are, is I there are wins and losses here right I do think overall let's start with the the negative side of it I do think that at 2.2 2.3 he's probably disappointed with that studio probably disappointed with that it's not like a major major like oh my god we we put so much into this loss it's it's a good story to tell that this guy put out this Kickstarter yeah he got support for it he got a guy like flanning in to come in and get involved in it and as you said he got it done yeah that's the story that's the win right right and even if, even if saw some people who saw it who said that they just thought it was just okay.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Yeah. Just okay is a, is a good win for him to start in the beginning. It's horrible, terrible, this is the worst thing I've ever seen. Then it's like, oh, I don't know if you're going to get another shot. He's going to get another shot. Right. He's going to get another shot. I think so.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Because he, and he handled himself well in the press thing. And the other thing is that most press for this movie was led with him. Yes. Right. They let it with him because they were relying on that. That same thing that built that Kickstarter and his audience to come. And as you said, look, he's got a very big audience here. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:20 But overall, 2.2 million or whatever it might be. And you can't let's say a million of those people who are going to show up. Let's say a million. Right. That's still not enough. Yeah. It's still not enough overall. You wouldn't have made, you know, I guess, I guess it would have been.
Starting point is 00:23:36 They didn't show, I mean, I guess it would be close to like five, six million. But you know, whatever it might have been money wise, but that didn't have. Yeah, it didn't show up and maybe 200,000 people at his audience showed up. Right. He is going to get more opportunities, though, and especially if he worked well with them. But that's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Yeah. Christian, go ahead. No, please, finish. At least, you know, and if nothing else, if he's made a good contact with Mike Flanagan and they've got a good relationship, then don't be surprised to see Chris directing episodes of whatever series Mike might be working on, and then they ramp up to a new thing.
Starting point is 00:24:13 you know, and the thing is it wasn't a bomb. Like a bomb would have been if like, you know, $150,000. That's all they made opening. That's a bomb. Like this is a, I made our budget back in the first weekend. And now our shooting budget. Our shooting budget. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:27 And now let's see if, if there's got any legs and see what it can do. But I think what's, I think what's killing it is that it's at 59% on Rotten Tomatoes. So there's, there's enough critics that are looking at it, legitimate critics too. We're looking at it and giving it like a B minus or a C kind of school. And he knew it. I'm sure he knew it going into it. That's that's that's the game, brother.
Starting point is 00:24:47 You know, that's, that's it. It's like, so you, you put, you got to be, you got to be proud of what you did. And then you got to realize, look, I've been on the other side of it for so many years. Now it's my turn. And okay, maybe not everybody responded to they wanted to. But, and as you said, I think you hit it right on the head. And that is the guy got it done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:06 He got it done. And that's, and like, like I said, and I told him, I said, and I, I run him. I didn't, I didn't write anything about the box office. in general, but I just said, I want to let you know that I'm putting together this pilot, I'm putting this thing together, and you have been a major inspiration for that because you got it done. And that is really the most important thing, because for every single person who's going to give him shit or anything else, whatever they might say to him in general, he got it done. Yeah. And that's a win. And I do think he'll get more opportunities.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Oh, of course. Yeah. What do you guys make at the box office in general? What do you say? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. All right, we got a few more topics to discuss. Okay. And before we do that, I would love to tell you guys, we've got some, I've told you about Cash App before. And I really, really think that it's so important to have them. If you don't have Cash App, I'm telling you, it's secure, it is safe. And I really, I really dig them a lot. So I'm going to tell you about Cash App in just a minute. You know what? Well, I guess maybe we'll take a second here, John.
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Starting point is 00:28:10 All right. So John will be here in just a minute. What's going on here? I don't even know anymore. Who cares? You know, the situation, what do you do? You look like you're like the tech guy in a movie right now. I know.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I apologize. I'm trying to get my camera to come up. Great. Just like that. Go on. Keep going. Okay, good. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Let's get into this next story because it was interesting. Luke was sent me some stories this morning. And there were quite a lot of stories. Nothing that really, to me, caught anything I wanted to lead the show with. And to be honest, I didn't really wanted to leave this one. But I was like, you know, it could be an interesting conversation of kind of like the what-ifs of what was going to happen with Plague. You guys know, and I'll be honest, like for the majority of, I did not like the accolade, the TV show.
Starting point is 00:28:55 But there was that moment of seeing Plagueis. I was like, oh, okay, what are we doing here? And then it's the fact, he was just kind of a creepy weirdo in the back in a cave and they didn't really give them anything to do. It was just kind of like, as they say in wrestling, a cheap pop. But there were plans for him, clearly. and here is said plans. The Acolyte Showrunner reveals the scrap plans for Darth Plague's
Starting point is 00:29:20 and Mani Gintos Sith Stranger. Okay. So let's see. This is from comicbook movie.com. In a new art book for Canceled Disney Plus series, The Acolyte, showrunner Leslie Headlin, reveals the plan would have been for Managing Gintos Pimar had the show continued. was his name in the, is it,
Starting point is 00:29:43 oh, where'd John go? John's gone. Perfect. Amazing. He'll be back in a second. Last August, we got word that Lucasfilm, Disney, had decided not to move forward with a second season of Accolite, despite several major storylines and character arcs being left unsolved by the end of season one. The announcement was met with a mixture of indifference and disappointment,
Starting point is 00:30:05 but it soon became clear that a lot of Star Wars fans and some actors involved with the show were surprised by this development. The season concluded with OSHA, I forget the names of these characters, murdering Jedi Master's Soul and embracing the Dark Side by joining with Camer, the stranger as Darth Lagas, as revealed in the mysterious Sith behind, Master Behind Camer's decision to bring down the Jedi Order. Now, there's a new book, The Art of the Acklite, reveals what fate would have led ahead for Camer and his master had the story continued beyond a single season.
Starting point is 00:30:35 According to Leslie Headland, Camer would have become the first night of Wren, the Sith cult that Kylo Ren led in the sequel trilogy. It was in the design of the character as well as knowing we're going to introduce Darth Plagueis, who has to end up with Palpatine as his apprentice following the rule of two, a precept that limited the Sith to just to any given time, a master and apprentice. One way to keep it going if the stranger is the first night of Ren, part of a Sith adjacent cult we know eventually survives. This was actually one of the many fan theories that did the rounds during the series and would certainly have been an interesting way to connect the higher republic era to the sequel trilogy are also giving fans
Starting point is 00:31:11 some more backstory on the Knights of Wren who we learned so little about in the Force Awakens last Jedi and the rise of Skywalker in the act line investigating it is okay all right john back yet yep back okay so uh you hear this and um as far as well where was the thing about plagueus i didn't see any more a plagueus the plague is in the bottom where it was that that was I guess that was it just the fact that he showed up. Okay. So, I mean, I'll be honest. It's like, I don't, I didn't really love those plans.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Yeah, I just say the same thing, bro. The Knights of Ren were supposed to be designed, at least, again, shows you once again, they don't pay attention to any of the books. The books make no, the books will be canon until they're not. Yeah. In the books, the Knights of Ren started to form after Vader died, because they were putting together this cult of trying to bring back the Sith and this whole thing. And that's how the Knights of Ren started.
Starting point is 00:32:12 They didn't start back then because that would make no sense. They were around the same time. You've got Plagueis training Palpatine in the shadows. And then there's this renegade group that is pretty powerful. They'd be pretty stupid, to be honest with you. So I'm glad that didn't happen. I still think they can use Plagis. I think that they'll be scared to do it.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I still, and I'll say it, I've been saying it for 10 years and I'll say it again. If they realize that they actually have books that they could use, they could say, let's get a screenwriter to adapt the James Lesino book. And it's harder to run a full two-hour movie with the main focus being villains. It's just hard to do. You don't really see it much in movies. But in TV, very easy to do. or not, I shouldn't say easy to do, but more commonly done, right?
Starting point is 00:33:07 And if you did a mini-series, one season of the Plague's novel by James Lascino, you could easily bring back the best version of Plagueis and really tie it all in together. So I'm glad that this didn't happen. I think that comic book movie was exaggerating a little bit when there's a major outcry for people who, there were some people who liked the series, but I think most people like, most people don't even know this casual don't even know the casual don't even to show even existent.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah. Yeah. And these plans feel like more down the road of what they and now, am I gone again? No, you're here, you're here. Oh, wait, but why is it on me? No, I was just wondering.
Starting point is 00:33:48 It just feels like these are interesting ideas, right? But nothing that's necessarily that groundbreaking. And so you go, okay well the first knights of rem but again that would just feel like retconning look we messed this up in the sequel trilogy now we're going to give it a little more weight and star wars does have history doing this certainly i think um the people people reappraised aniken because of the clone wars
Starting point is 00:34:12 uh which is understandable but like you look at something like this and you go like it was already kind of a middling start would that could this have been badass sure but you look at how the first season went down and how many cooks got in that kitchen and i think they would have squeezed it to death all over again if they had gone forward with this because I think Leslie has the instinct to go, wanted to go dark with this. He wanted to go maybe and or like dark in its approach, but
Starting point is 00:34:38 Faloni, other people got involved, and I know that from sources, that turned this thing around into what we got. And so there's no belief that if Leslie had been able to do a second season, it would have turned out any different or any better, I don't think, because those same people are still in power and would have gotten
Starting point is 00:34:55 involved with it and would have shaved down the darkness of it all. So would you want to have seen a second season where you see a lifetime channel approach to the darkness of the sit with the acolyte oh sorry with the um with plagueus and with the stranger i would not have wanted to see a second season with that kind of approach to the darkness of the Sith it's the first responsible thing Lucasfilm has done with this brand to cancel the season yes because uh when you keep getting the inflated 240 million dollars through 30 million like you can't you can't you can't green light a second, especially when, is like, if the audience loves it, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:32 like, well, we spend a lot of money, but they love it. Yeah. Everyone's talking about it. If it, like, if they came back and they go, you know what, it was a lot of money, but we're doing and or season three. We didn't think we were going to do it, but we're doing and or season three. Like, we get it. We understand why you're doing it. Um, this would make no sense, except to be stubborn. Yeah. Uh, it, it wouldn't. You've got like a pocket of people who love it. There are people who love this show, but it's a pocket. Um, you can't run a business that way. You've got to say, all right, let's back to the drawing board. Let's do something else.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And I think that, you know, if you did once again, I'm sorry that I'm repeating the same thing, but if you did that novel and you adapted it in the way like a style of a Tony Gilroy type show. Yeah. From the way that James Lucino wrote that book, I am very confident that you would get the same kind of response that you did with Android. If you shot it that way and you really made an hour long episodes, again, these are 25, 30 minute episodes of characters you just didn't care about. They were most of them were morons. And you and I said it were blue in the face. They made it.
Starting point is 00:36:43 They also made a very huge error and not having Daphne Keene be the star of that show. Yeah. She should have been the star of the show from start to finish. The twin storyline was the stupidest thing they could have ever done. It should have just been Daphne Keene the whole time with Saul and the back and front. for it there and keep manny in there and condense it a bit but they they dropped the ball in this show big time big time you know and i see some people and it's fair to look at leslie headland's writing but i also i would encourage you to watch to look at russian doll the writing there is fantastic on
Starting point is 00:37:15 that series the two seasons and so clearly other people got involved and you're not inspired to write really well if you're if you have to redo some scenes because people get involved that don't follow along with vision. Look at Indiana Jones. Look at the last Indiana Jones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at Logan, look at, look at, uh, for versus Ferrari and then look at it at the last Indiana Jones.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Clearly, clearly there's, there's, there's, there's something going on. Yeah, it's frustrating. It's so frustrating. Just let creators create. Yeah, just like creators create. It's or, or, you know, or hire somebody else. And I like they did.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah. Yeah. Like, they did with, uh, with, what's his face? Uh, Gareth Edwards, right? Right. For a rogue one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the only one that,
Starting point is 00:37:58 that really played ball this way through because you know it's it's it's something the point that i always make is that if anybody ever says that gareth edwards was the sole director of rogue one like well why didn't he direct the endor yeah and i will show you the creator which to me was right why why why was he nowhere near it with the if they decided to do a rogue one spin off with and why did they go to tony gilroy and not even approach edwards yeah why wouldn't they have edwards directing one or two of the episode. Especially the middle of those, yeah. He goes, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:38:30 He's like, I'm a, he, he did the smartest thing ever. He stepped back, is do what you want to do. It's yours. Whatever. Fine. Whatever you want me to do. I'll do a cameo on Last Jedi also for you. Why not?
Starting point is 00:38:42 And then takes a break. And now he directed another big, huge movie with Jurassic World. Just played ball. He's a play ball guy. He is his career. He's a play ball guy. Yeah. So, anyway.
Starting point is 00:38:54 All right. That's it. Right. What do you guys think about this? Do you think that maybe they should have gone ahead with season two? Do you disagree with myself and John? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know what you think. Make sure you're going to the clips channel too, by the way.
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Starting point is 00:39:28 Big deal here, John, for Taylor Sheridan. Yeah, let's talk about this. I'm sure. I didn't, I knew you'd want to. Yeah. Mega deal. At Universal. Hey, oh, big deal at Universal. They stole them, Johnny. They stole him, Johnny. Did they, though?
Starting point is 00:39:48 I know. I know. He has been Paramount's golden boy for years, but it seems that Taylor Sheridan is moving to a new home. in the near future. Puck News and variety reports that Yellowstone creator is poised to make NBC Universal his TV and film production home with a lucrative long-term deal.
Starting point is 00:40:05 The deals signed up super early, won't kick off for another three years. At that time, he'll have spent a decade with Paramount. Sheridan is one of TV's most prolific creators in the past decade, turning out a huge lineup of series of Paramount Plus and Paramount Network, including Yellowstone, 1883, 1923,
Starting point is 00:40:21 upcoming Y Marshals, along with Tulsa King, mayor of Kingstown, lioness, landman, lawman, bass for eaves. It was known that Sheridan has been considering a new overall deal arrangement, and Paramount, which is undergoing a major overhaul since Skydance took over in August, has seen many of the core executives ally with Sheridan's rise at the company having exited. No official comment has come forward from either the studio or Sheridan.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Okay, so what I'm confused about here, and you probably have more of a hold on this than I do, if Paramount has right now all this money yeah why do you let this guy go is it because of what they just said all the people who were in charge before there that he was comfortable with they're gone like how do you let him go if you're if you're paramount and you want to set up this whole new empire and one of your biggest TV guys is right there and all you got to do sign them why do you let him I think there are a lot of reasons for this and anyone trying to go with just one reason I think is way off things it This guy is an incredibly interesting creator.
Starting point is 00:41:26 I think he gets unfairly painted as a red state guy because I've seen a lot of his content and he's very much down the middle. Something you and I talk about all the time. We need more people who are in the middle who can call out both sides and have a strong opinion about taking from both sides, what's best from both sides. And if you look at his content, you look at Lioness, you led by two women, diverse cast.
Starting point is 00:41:53 You look at something like, sorry, what did I recently just see? Oh, Landman. Look at Landman, which is a commentary on wealth and on the corruption of oil barons and how they step on the little guy and little people. You got interracial relationships in that. So I think the thing is Taylor does a great job with his content.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yellowstone is probably the weakest, which is ironic, weakest of the stuff that he makes. Because the other stuff is really thought, provoking and interesting and fascinating. And he wants to be left alone. And that's another element of this. So, yes, the people who were there were really in support of him. But the fact that the new people came in and they, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:33 the Ellison and all them were like, Sheridan's our number one guy. We've got to be sure, you know, the stuff. But then the executives came in under Ellison and we're like, we're going to cut the budgets. We're going to make him, you know, adhere to the stuff. So there's a lot of, there's a lot of things here. And I think personally, I think Taylor did not want to be.
Starting point is 00:42:51 under the thumb of people with a certain political ideology going in and messing with his content. And universal. But look at the South Park guys. They're not having that problem. Not yet. And look, John Stewart's wondering where he's at. So right now we're still in the early days of what's going to happen. So I think Taylor, who's a smart, smart guy, read the tea leaves, saw that people were leaving
Starting point is 00:43:13 that he, who defended him to the bigwigs, his budgets were being caught. They were going to force him to do stuff on sets or closer to home. which would ruin some of the authenticity. And I think the other among us is that he didn't want to be under the thumb of people who have a particular political ideology and we're going to force his content to adhere to that ideology. I think all of that is in the mix here for the reasons of why he left the situation. Well, it's a big win for Peacock, for sure. Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 00:43:41 The question I have is, how does that work now? Because Paramount Foot of the Bill for all those things for so long, does Peacock, get the library or does the library live there because it's apparent like I would assume no because if I'm paranoid I'm like no no we we spent the money to do all those seasons of Tulsa King you want to find Tulsa King you can do new seasons of Tulsa King over on your thing but we're you got to find all the old ones at our place so does this mean all because this is what in 2027 or 2028 when the deal is up I thought or 2026 rather when the deal is up so does he now have to start all over again
Starting point is 00:44:22 and there are no more seasons of these shows or do other creators come in to keep going with Landman or keep going with Lioness or these other... Great question. Do they go with him? Yeah. Or does it stay with Paramount?
Starting point is 00:44:36 That's a great question. That's not really... The details that they said are the deal are not really in there. Right. So, like, that's huge. It's like, okay, yeah. Yellowstone, all those things,
Starting point is 00:44:45 there are ours. But I don't think that's the case. I think that especially after you got to the status that he's at. Right. I am sure that in his deal, his agents were good enough to say, if he goes, the shoe goes with him. I would assume it would be a standard deal for them, go, if we're sitting there and going,
Starting point is 00:45:02 okay, fine. Yeah. He's going to take Yellowstone. You're going to, or are you going to take the new additions of Tulsa King and you're going to do it somewhere else. Okay, fine. Everything else lives on our, on our thing. You want to find one, two, and three, you got to find it with us.
Starting point is 00:45:15 But I don't know. Maybe, maybe we, maybe we find out more. Or maybe, maybe. maybe it goes with them. I don't know. I'm not sure. I think this is a big loss. I think this is egg on their face for Paramount because they've been throwing money around left and right.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Yeah. And losing a massive trainer. This is big. This is a big loss. Yeah. The Duffer brothers do not fill the void of Taylor Sheridan, you know? No. So they need, this is another reason why they really need that win
Starting point is 00:45:41 with getting Warner Brothers because no one will talk about this. If they get Warner Brothers, no one's going to care that they missed that on Taylor Sheridan. But if they don't, but if they don't, then it's like, okay, you didn't get Warner Brothers. You lost Taylor Sheridan. Right. They got the UFC. That's a big win.
Starting point is 00:45:56 That's a big win. Yeah. You don't think so? I don't think it's a, I mean, UFC is still a niche thing, man. And it's very dependent on, on the stars. I think it's going to, that's going to change, though, with the fact that you, like, I'm telling you right now, I'm going to start watching it again. Because one of the main reasons I stopped watching it, I'm not paying $70 for a pay-per-view. I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I'm just will not do it. that but I will absolutely watch the pay-per-views if I've already subscribed it's the same thing I haven't watched a WWE PLE since they changed the stupid deal haven't watched one I'm not updating my I'm not updating my thing I haven't watched it don't care I'll watch the I'll watch the highlights on Twitter right and that's what I used to do with you have seen it'll be the opposite now watch everything on you a you see that's out because I have access to it and and I'm not spending extra with all the other crap and HBO max changes their prices every month and then all these different Disney changes.
Starting point is 00:46:50 They keep hiking the prices. I'm not going to do that with the SPN. I don't care enough about the WWE to where it's like, oh, I need to spend this money and get the bundle. Stick it up your asshole. You should have left it exactly where you left it and did what you did. This was greedy. And I think this is paramount going, okay, you take every pay-per-view, do it.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yeah, yeah. But we'll see. I mean, because this is the same thing exactly about WWE, like you said. Like Netflix is a much bigger situation. in peacock they came in they took all the content they put the appeal is on that but the the ratings are down and so are people going to go to you have go to paramount plus for ufc or are they not so it's going to be interesting because i think i think both wb and ufc are driven by star talent if you don't have the star talent the ratings go completely down no matter where
Starting point is 00:47:37 you're at so it'll be curious to see how ufc does because i like their content i like you i like the tough enough i like i love those shows yeah you don't know what to do john we'll see yeah I want to get, because we used to have a few, I'm going to reach out to our advertising agency. I want to get one of those VPNs because then, because on the UK, Netflix, you can get everything, all the PLEs and everything outside of the States. Right. Yeah. So you can get like one of those VPNs.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Get expressed or Nord VPN. Yeah. All right. Well, what do you guys make of this deal? Is it a, you know, does it really matter to Paramount that they lost them or is this a major loss? Put your thoughts in there. let us know. All right, we were just talking about HBO
Starting point is 00:48:17 or HBO, what the hell it's calling? I don't know what's called for. So last night, welcome to Derry debut. Did you watch it, John? I did, yeah. All right, so it debuted last night. I also, not only did I watch it,
Starting point is 00:48:30 there's a reaction to it up on the channel right now. I'm not going to go into the full spoiler. I'm just going to show, I'm just going to show the picture there. He's not even in the damn thing. There's your spoiler. Spoilers. He's not even in the episode.
Starting point is 00:48:44 That's okay. Did you like it? I did. I liked it. It's a good start. It's a good solid start. I didn't know what to expect, especially when you go back in time. And the creator said, I'm not adhering to any kind of mythology. So I see what happens. But I liked it for a start. That's what I'll say. There's a lot of repeating beats. Yes. Because we shady directed this. And I thought he did a good job.
Starting point is 00:49:05 And I thought he made it look exactly like it was part of It Chapter 1 and a Chapter 2. and I just rewatched It Chapter 1 with Ming. I've never seen it before. So that's going up Wednesday. So I want to do, see, it really does fit together well. There's a great, the opening scene is fantastic. I will say that I didn't love the ending. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:30 I didn't love the ending, again, without giving spoilers. Right. And I don't know if it's because I was, again, I don't want, I don't want to spoil. I don't want to spoil it. I felt a particular way throughout it. And then they do, they make a choice at the end. And I said, oh, well, maybe you didn't need to do that then. You're going to do that.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah. And now it's like, okay, let's see. But I haven't seen. Right. The rest of the episodes. So it could have been like, oh, well, they, they set it up well enough that that doesn't make. It wasn't enough that it ruined it for me. It just was like, I just didn't like the choice.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Yeah. But I liked, but I liked the episode. I thought it was a good, a good setup. I thought the kids are good. Yeah. Yeah. And Joven Adepa, who I like, I thought he did a nice job with the amount of time he had. And there's enough mystery here that interests me.
Starting point is 00:50:23 And I think there's commentary going on that interests me as well. So we'll see how strongly they address everything as they go along over the next few episodes. But I like it. They're not shying away from stuff. And I was appreciate the boldness of creators who do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I just, it was, I was wondering if it was a little predictive. Hmm. I just, it was hard for, it's hard for me to say. It's hard for me to say. I was wondering if it was a note that they got. I was wondering if it was like what, it was like, like, like, why? You know what I mean? Like, like why?
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yes. Why did that happen? Right. So we'll, so we'll see. We'll see moving forward. But I'm, I'm, I'm very much interested to see how it, how it plays out. And I can't wait to see Penny one. Can you wait.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Yeah. Oh, so. so, so creepy and he does such a great job. So I'm glad to see him back in that role. He's just such a good actor. Yeah. Oh, no. Of course.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah, especially this role. Yeah. It would be a lot of fun. So good. So good. People said it's coming out on Halloween episode two. Is that correct? I see that in the chance.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Is it coming on Halloween? That's perfect if it is. It's actually good to know. Let's let's see. When does it welcome to Derry to drop? Let's see. yes Friday this Friday at 12 a.m. It's good to know.
Starting point is 00:51:44 That's good to know because that means I got to I should watch that sooner than later. Thank you guys for letting me know that. Okay. What do you guys make of it? Welcome to Derry. Did you like it? Did you not like it? Let us know, please.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Okay. Let's get to. There's another story here that was talking about and that's Supergirl, man. Hey, man. Yeah, so Supergirl, I feel like you and I are going to feel exactly the same about this.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Any time that there's reshoots, people, you get two waves of people, people who go, reshoots, what happens? It's part of it. Oh, there's reshoots. Call the cops. Let's see where we stand on this.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Well, there's going to be reshoots. To no one's surprise on this end. Or possibly to add scenes with, it could be a spoiler here, but if you think, if you don't want to be spoiled, then drop out. I'm not, I'm not, that's all I can tell you. According to a new rumor, DC studio Supergirl is currently undergoing two weeks of additional photography, possibly includes scenes with a certain other super-powered hero. Supergirl wrapped photography back in May, but as generally the case of any major studio kind of movie, reshoots were scheduled. according to Daniel Wickman, cameras are currently rolling again for what will amount to two weeks of additional photography and believes that it might be scenes with Superman. This could explain why the Superman costume that was on display at the Warner Bros. Studio Tour's exhibit was removed and replaced with a note reading Superman costume currently being used by production.
Starting point is 00:53:24 There was speculation that it might have something to do with The Man of Tomorrow, but James Gunn's next DC movie is still in the early stages of development, according to a recent report from the Hollywood Reporter, Supergirl had quiet screening on the burbanked lot with selective group of executives and a few members of James Gunn's stable. Trade didn't reveal any details, but a couple of reliable scoopers have claimed to have heard great things about the movie and wouldn't be surprised if some first reactions began to filter over the next couple of weeks. In a recent interview writer Anna Nogera spoke about what attracted her to this rougher and grittier and funnier and funnier taking the character. She watched Krypton completely be destroyed, and I was like, I can't get my head around this version. I can't get my head around this version of the character that is so sunny. Millie Alckels going to reprise a role. We know that.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Yada, yada. Okay. Yeah. So this is standard, right? There's nothing here. It's like, okay, there's reshoots. Good. As part of it.
Starting point is 00:54:19 As far as Superman goes, I will say that it's a little shocking to me that the reshoots are Superman, if it is one of these things like, oh, shit, should we put Superman in it? Yeah. Then it's like, oh, unless it's, well, there's. too much going on at Cornswit right now. We can't get him during this production thing. Keep those two weeks available for when the reshoots happen and when he's available, we'll get that scene. And if that's the case and that's certainly possible, then fine. But if it's one of these things like, hey, do you think we should have Superman in there? How do you not have Superman in there?
Starting point is 00:54:50 Yeah. Yeah. What do you make of all? Well, first of all, I mean, I agree with you. I think this is not a big deal. In two weeks of reshoots, I mean, that was scheduled. You clearly have a possibility in the contract list. And if we were going to screen it, then, we'll do, if we need to, we'll do two weeks of reshoots, keep these dates open, right? No big deal. I think you're screening it for people. You want to create the best film possible. You screen it for executives and for people on guns team.
Starting point is 00:55:17 And you come out and you go, okay, what can we change? What worked? What didn't work? And then you make adjustments. There's nothing wrong with that. Editing a film or getting the right, I mean, getting it right is important here. Because I think James understands, especially after that, piecemaker finale that was so divisive for season two,
Starting point is 00:55:34 for the people who actually watched it, I think there is a feeling like, okay, we've got to get the next one. Hey, is that a shot at me? No, no, no. There are people like they didn't like it. It's a more amount of like, okay, well, are we going to get it right?
Starting point is 00:55:48 So I think they need to get it right. They need to get super good right. So two weeks of reshoots to make sure you're, you know, honing it down or editing some things out or maybe adding more context. So people get what's going on in the film. I think that's an important thing to do. The thing is one of the great things James did
Starting point is 00:56:02 to start the, the Superman franchise or the DC franchise is like create the world that has superheroes already in it for what? Three centuries or whatever. But the problem is also, since the world has had super humans for three centuries, then you have to really address the fact that they're around and things are happening. Are they showing up,
Starting point is 00:56:21 not showing up what's going on? So you add a whole other level of conflict and complexity to what you're doing and you've got to adhere to that. So I think there's, you know, there's nothing wrong with it. I was also set it up in the way that like, it's it's like the boys but the superheroes are good a lot yeah exactly you know it's like a lot of so uh and and to
Starting point is 00:56:41 be fair they this this clearly came first before the boys but but it is but they're taking that aspect of it and going away and just embracing the comic book side of it and we'll see how that how it all plays out and we'll see how it plays out again as we've talked many times over with the the sale and all that stuff that sale even happens yeah right there's so much that can go forward that can change. We'll see. But nonetheless, yeah. What does your gut tell you on? What is your gut? I mean, Chris, you know, you've been covering in the industry now two decades
Starting point is 00:57:13 plus. Like, what does your gut tell you about the situation? Do you think Paramount's going to get what they want? And B, do you think they will get rid of James Gunn if they make the purchase? Well, I've definitely talked about the latter quite quite a bunch since you and I have talked about it. And everything changes, like day to day. It does. It absolutely does. That's why I made it very clear than we covered it again because people gave us shit, you and I for covering it off that article.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And I was like, this is, this is a major potential story. Yes. That could happen. And then we covered again because his, his comments were kind of vague. You could have looked at his comments on that podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah. Right. Where it was, it could have been, hey, look, maybe I'm not the one directing it is what he was talking about.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Maybe I, or maybe I won't be here, or maybe the sale won't happen. Or maybe I will. it could have meant a billion different things, but it doesn't mean that it's still not relevant. And of course, he's thinking about it. Yeah, he has to be. So to answer your question, the first part of do I think that they're going,
Starting point is 00:58:15 Paramount's going to get it? It really depends on how bad Ellison wants it. Like if look at the Twitter situation with Musk, he wanted it, he got it. Right. And he wanted it badly. And so everyone's like, oh, remember people going, I don't know if he's going to get it.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Is it because you don't, you couldn't fathom somebody. You just say, I'm going to buy this thing and change it. Well, he did. And he has that kind of money. He can do it and he did it. And that's the same thing. If Ellison wants to do that, if he really wants to do it, if he could also say,
Starting point is 00:58:45 not worth the struggle, not worth the, they're asking too much here. They know how bad I want it. And they're now just trying to like drain me for money here. And even I don't want to do this. And he walks away from it, possible. But if you really wants it, he'll get it. Yeah. And as far as will they get rid of gun?
Starting point is 00:59:03 So I don't think that right away, no, they would get rid of gun. I don't think. I think that I think the pushback on that would be too monumental. Now, I do think there could be an officer and gentleman type situation where they just push him so hard in a certain direction that he just says, I don't want to do this. I'm out. Okay. You could do that. I think you hang himself in the closet.
Starting point is 00:59:24 No, no, no, no, no, you went real dark. I was having more so like, I got nowhere else to go. I got nowhere else to go. I'm more like that. But no, I think that the other thing, I think that would be silly to restart an entire thing again. Now, there could be a world if they don't want to re-up his contract, that they just have what he set up.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Yeah. And have someone else continue it. Very much so what we were talking about with Taylor Sheridan. Yeah. I think he's like I think you know, track are going to do that. I think it would be a major mistake to reset again. I just think that would be a huge mistake. I agree 100%.
Starting point is 01:00:01 But it's also going to depend on what James wants to do, right? True. Again, I know people get mad when I bring this up, but Ellison is very clearly of a personal political view. And James Gunn at the end of throughout peacemaker season two, you very clearly get James politics. And so you wonder if this is going to lead to a clash down the road if they need to get involved in the content that he's creating
Starting point is 01:00:25 in the direction he wants to take his decent universe. So that stuff is something. Just keep an eye on. I'm going to say it's the main thing. But it's just certainly something to keep an eye on there in the back to see if that will affect things when this all goes down. Because I agree with you. I think if Ellison wants it, he is just going to pay for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:40 He's the richest man in the world right now. Him and Elog trade one and two, but like he is the richest man of the world right now. So if he wants to spend that money, he could do it. And the board will be happy to vote for it if he increases their share price to a number that's they can't refuse it, you know? Yeah. I'm curious to see how it pans out. I don't know if we have any answer to that. And I also don't know if 3-I Atlas will be here in time to take us all out anyway.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Have you been paying attention on what's going on with that? No, I don't know what, what is the new thing now? What's the new thing? I can only go so far with you. You don't know what 3-I Atlas is? No, I can't go to Inter-Man. That has nothing to do with me. That's NASA, that's NASA, buddy.
Starting point is 01:01:20 What's 3-I-A-A-A-A-Lis is the thing that has been moving in space, the last moments that they've been tracking, moving at an absolutely incredible speed. that is now hidden behind the sun that they do not believe is is there's a Harvard there's a Harvard scientist who does not believe that it is a comment and thinks that there's a 40% chance this is a Harvard scientist that it is potentially extraterrestrial 40% is what he said I didn't say it he said oh I know and apparently by the end of look at anybody who doesn't know what I'm talking about just three I slash Atlas look it up right now it's base.com
Starting point is 01:01:58 yeah yeah it's everywhere um and That is now, Ed Harrell sent me something today that I haven't read it yet. There are constants. There are tons of scientists looking at it. Nobody knows what it is. It's moving at a very, very different way that it's not a traditional comment. Now, very well, and I've been saying this on my other channel, it very well could just be, oh, it was just a different type of comment. There it goes right past the planet.
Starting point is 01:02:20 It doesn't do anything. But who knows? I don't know. We'll see. Do they have a idea of when it might hit if it is going to hit? So they said that we are not necessarily going to hit. hip, but be in range for us. It's going to pass around,
Starting point is 01:02:37 it's going to be more visible. Because it's hiding behind, they said it's hiding behind the sun right now. Okay. So once it, it should be more in the clear by Halloween. And then better look at, like mid-November, but I said by the end of the year, we should, it should be closer to Earth is what they said. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:54 So we've got one more Christmas left at least. So they said, well, this is the Harvard. The Harvard scientist said, would you should take all your vacation now is what he said. James are shooting man tomorrow right now. I know. Said it. 100%. Anyway, what do you make of all? Not necessarily
Starting point is 01:03:10 through I-A-A-A-A-Lis, but hey, if you want to put your thoughts in there about that, too, go ahead. Have a blast. Let's get into, we got some questions we're going to get into, and we're going to do just that. John Roker, before we get to your question, currently at 29. What? That's good.
Starting point is 01:03:26 29's good. Usually, you should start around like 2930 before we get into it. And you, you sometimes you get to 100. Last week, Steph had a career performance. She crushed it. Somehow, Derek Johnson returned. She pulled a Justin Fields. She had one game. It was great.
Starting point is 01:03:43 So, John, what's going on on the channel? Yeah, the John Roker channel. We got a new channel banner that was, thanks to Dylan Moore, who did that beautiful picture of us, that cartoon animation that she did of us a few weeks ago. I asked him to do a channel banner. and now it is up on the channel that's happening. And I'll be probably going live tonight to do a little episode of The Truth.
Starting point is 01:04:07 If Jeff wants to do an episode of the Hot Mike, we might go live with that instead. But that's the plans for today. And we've got more geek buddies stuff coming on this week. I got to talk to the Jedi weed people. It's been a few weeks. And then, of course, spill the tequila tomorrow night and some other reviews and stuff like that going on on the channel.
Starting point is 01:04:22 So head on over and hang out with us there. YouTube.com slash John Rooka says, fairly slow this week on, on screenings, right? Yeah, not much. Bagonia. They're asking you to shave my head tomorrow night and I'm considering it. Yeah, like as a way of doing
Starting point is 01:04:39 a promotion for Baccona. Are they paying you for it? They have a barber that is there and they will slice your hair off, take your hair. But are they going to pay you to cut your hair? Oh, no, no. That's just for fun. It's for promotion. Yeah, I'm good. But I'll tell you that
Starting point is 01:04:56 there's a lot of stuff. November's going to be busy. Oh, yeah. So much stuff. November. Holy crap. All right. Well, good. Check out, John. Let's get into these questions. 30 now as we start here. So let's see what you can do. Can you get John in the driver's seat right away to take out Roxy and Mike? He's always, he beat him last week. You know, at least beat those two. Can he do it again this week? We'll see. I don't know. We'll find out. Let's get into it. All right. Sweet. First question here as we go to one out of the 30. Al Rensha, do you think that Damson Idris showing up,
Starting point is 01:05:32 walking out with Angela Bassett at Bogue Fashion Show? Is Marvel saying he is next Black Panther? I would love it. I don't think it's Marvel saying that. I think it would also be good for him to get an endorsement from Angela Bassett, who also is probably like, but I don't necessarily mean it's that it's Marvel saying that, but you never know. I don't think Angela Bats is going to be in the third movie.
Starting point is 01:05:53 I was going to say, spoiler alert, she didn't make it out of the second movie. Right. It was probably just hanging out. No, but having an endorsement from her who was very, very close to Chadwick and, and going to would be, you know, she could, she could probably make a phone call for you if you needed it. Oh, good call. Yeah, yeah. You know, Mike Joyce.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Out, out, out, out. You know, it was, there was some creepy shit going on for sure. That opening scene was creepy as hell. I loved it. And they teased it in the trailer and it still worked. I didn't watch the trailer, so I'm glad I didn't. Johnny Venerable. I wonder if James Gun regets, the niche.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Chippo niche approach with D.C. Ahead of Sale. Peacemaker isn't tracking well. Gun screwed up on not establishing a DCU Batman. I don't think you can say he screwed up not establishing a DCU Batman because it, it's, he, he still has to do it. Yeah. He still, I had this dude, real quick, timeout. I'm glad I remember this.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Been having this whole debate with my wife because she, as we're watching Splitsville. Every time, I'd like, oh, I can't see that guy. with Adrire Arjona and my wife is like, why do you keep doing that? I go, why? She goes, you say her full name and you say Arjona. She goes, why? Well, I go, because I do it on the show all the time. And I go, because she'll be the next Wonder Woman.
Starting point is 01:07:16 She goes, wait a minute. She's not going to be the next one. She is. She's like, I don't see it. And I go, and I was like, you didn't, this is the first time you really know, even seen her. I was like, you don't think Adrian Arshona would be good as, as one. her one and she goes you better stop it and then halfway through it I go oh do you know jason
Starting point is 01:07:33 momoa's dating out I go I sure it's good it's good so I do think hey sure and I will be the next uh it was fun um all right so anyway do you think he has screwed up establishing a these not establishing a DC you batman yet still starting out like it's like you know he's not gonna go all five movies in one year. Exactly. Yeah, that's ridiculous. Yeah, I think, look, I get it. And you're talking to John Roker who's been pretty tough on the guy. Yeah. But even Roker's that you can't, come on. You can't give the guy shit for that. I am two fly camp. House full of snores fits better. Wow, snooze fest. Houseful. What is that? What is dynamite? Yeah, the one that's on. Oh, is it bad? Yeah, there's, there's people who are praising it in the critics community as a possible Oscar
Starting point is 01:08:22 contender, but there are just as many people who are watching it who are like bashing it. I don't Jeff doesn't like it. Adam name it over at the ringer didn't like it. Yeah, it's going to be interesting one. I'm watching it today right after I see Shelby Oaks. I think completely funny. So you're going to the theater, see Shelby Oaks? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to watch the first hour of House of Dynamite when we're done,
Starting point is 01:08:41 then roll out of theater and watch that and then watch the last hour. I'm hoping to have my final call here today with the director and producer of the pilot. We're doing the call later on today because we're trying to establish the tiers of the Kickstarter so we can announce them very soon. Spencer, have either of you seen the FX show The Americans, one of the best written shows ever on TV? I've heard nothing except great things about it. Yeah. But no, I never watched it, but I heard nothing but great things. The lady's always trying to push me to watch that show.
Starting point is 01:09:10 So we may open the door very soon. Yeah, people love it. I'm telling you, I've never heard a bad word about it except how great it was. There he is, John. Hey, John. Hey, Johnson. Give me 10 memberships here. Thank you, Derek.
Starting point is 01:09:21 That's huge. Actually, no, I lied. You have 20. Look at that. Wow. Good job. joneson coming in hot you the derrick johnson not to show himself up throws in a big wow big super chat thank you derrick derrick's the man good to have you back buddy hope you're doing well he was he was he was busy he's been
Starting point is 01:09:40 doing he's been working a lot john yeah i appreciate it's come so uh renetta thank you derrick you miss you but hey hey love loves excuse me thank you rennetta happy blade of turn up day hope you and the lady out we're out there being legendary in your big day, smooges and sunshine, your way. How nice is that? Yeah, it was very chill. We didn't, we, yeah, we kept it in-house for my actual birthday, and then we went out, as I said, on Saturday night.
Starting point is 01:10:04 But we're old now, man. It's not about making the scene dog. Like, you know, putting on pants was an issue for God's sake. Well, my wife and I are our 15th wedding anniversary, which is crazy, coming up right around the corner. And we both were just like, we're just, there's this restaurant near our house. We're going to walk to it.
Starting point is 01:10:22 and we're going to get a salad with some chicken and a pizza and a bottle of wine, and it sounds glorious. It will be in bed by nine. Perfect. Nine. Nine, eight. No, dinner reservations at six. Michael Diagular, nothing to add to chat, but finally, my hometown is getting two IMAX theaters.
Starting point is 01:10:42 That's great on a screen X amount. It's been years since we had an IMAX in Perth. That's cool. About time. That makes it more, that's another thing. It makes it more exciting to go to the movies when you could go to see it in that type of passion. The little shit theater is just, I don't know how they survive unless it's like super cheap.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Yeah. Yeah. GoPel liked how it's a dynamite. So it was excellent. Ah, there you go. Split. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Very much. But, yeah. Uh, Go Pal says, no, nothing next to Splitsville, but the couple stills of A.G. Arsona,
Starting point is 01:11:11 I've seen from that movie make me want to see it. She's, she's incredibly attractive. Of course. I think that's why your wife has an issue with how you're saying. I think she said, do you have a crush on her? Yeah. I don't know but but she but I can also she because she said it too my wife
Starting point is 01:11:26 say he's like she's like she's like she's beautiful woman I said yeah she is um but she's also very talented very very very talented and I think um fuck she she looks good I see I am a fan of Dakota Johnson I think she looks really good in the I don't so people like it yeah I'm not I'm not yeah her or Margaret Quali I don't get it but yes I get all I don't get i don't know but you like the tall gangly white girls like you you you see i'm not gonna get i see i could go right back and start being i'm not gonna do it i'm not gonna do it i'm not gonna do it i'm not i'm not gonna do it nathan drake i dare you come with laurence in your mind how do you i'd say don't don't you know mind reader um nathan drake house of dynamite was bad there you go
Starting point is 01:12:14 easily big goes worse back and forth here back and forth ralph i walked out of springsteen from sheer boredom oh man I like white in the movie, but couldn't save it. When I saw that clown, Mark Maren pop up, I was done. What? He's barely even in it. He's barely even in it. Mark Perry has like four lines in the whole movie. He's barely even in.
Starting point is 01:12:32 He's just, yeah, he's barely even in it. I like, but he's barely, but he's barely even in the movie. You can't, you can't, if that's why you're walking, I can say him. I thought Jeremy Strong was incredible. Oh, man, yeah. He could get nominated. It'll be very tough, but he could. Near the end, where they sit and listen to that.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Yes. That is the scene of the movie and that conversation on the phone. Like, all that whole scene is amazing. Yeah. Ralph, who's your most consistent new director of the last 10 to 15? Lennu. Coogler, Eggers, Peel, Gun, Gerwig. Giselle, I want to every single time, but it just doesn't hit.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Gerwig, she's only had two, right? Three. Yeah. They heard. Barbie. What was the third? the one before Lady Bird. I can't remember the name.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I don't know if I saw it. Gunn appeal, consistent director. My answer is going to me. Yeah, DeNe's not even the, to me, it's just like,
Starting point is 01:13:35 Google is pretty damn good, though. I mean, I don't know. Has Coogler did a bad movie? Not a bad movie, but certainly Black Panther, too, is overwhelming at times.
Starting point is 01:13:45 How do you not give him a pass on that? You still directed it? But how do you not give him a pass? See, I find the, opposite for that because he had wrote and directed and he wrote this movie and was intending to directed a full script with an actor who's very close to that he had this deal with that was the star of the movie and not only does the guy pass away it's his friend right so emotionally now
Starting point is 01:14:09 he's asked can you turn this around in about a year and a half two years without him in it and I agree I don't love that movie it's but considering what he did with that movie movie in that amount of time it it's a pretty amazing accomplishment in how he directed that movie because it's a fine movie right it's fine it's it is it I just give it a pass for for the circumstances but I still think you know I don't know I I think he's pretty consistent they don't give you trophies for getting to the Super Bowl no no but what I want to know what I'm saying though it's like some of these no I get what you're saying but like so but but some of the some time sometimes look at the Springsteen right
Starting point is 01:14:51 Springsteen is born to run. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. He's born to run. Then he has Nebraska, which is, to his majority of his audience, is a misstep or is just like a step different from what he's done. And then, because he chose to do that album in the way that he did it. And then he goes to next. And that happens with Gun or Eggers, not Eggers yet, he's two.
Starting point is 01:15:12 But a lot of these different directors, Kugler hasn't done that yet. He hasn't had that thing. Yeah. But I reject your example because Nebraska is in the top three albums, top four albums, spring scenes ever done. It's, for me, in my opinion. In your opinion, right. But it was not a very popular album.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Not popular because of the things. He was like, love that album. Yeah. But I hear what you're saying. But I mean, you can argue, Vinaluve had to create, make Dune interesting. Like that's, I'm, I chose Villanue. He's, he's my choice,
Starting point is 01:15:41 but I just said, Cougalor's in the conversation. Yeah, I agree. I agree with that. Google is in the conversation. Ralph. I want Benicio, few small beers to Tol Toro for Latino crime boss in Miami vicer, Jordan and Butler. Not Pedro Fiskel, please, Lord, not him.
Starting point is 01:15:55 People are just tired of Pedro right now. And that just comes with the territory, though, man. It's the same thing. It's like, it happened with Jennifer Lawrence. It happens with, what's his name? Who was a dude from Avatar? Oh, my God. Oh, Sam Worthington.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Sam Worthington. It happens. If you start to tell people, this is the, look at this guy's everywhere. This person's different. You know who is everywhere? Nobody cares. because he doesn't do it in a starring role. Paul Walter Hauser.
Starting point is 01:16:22 That's true. He's in every movie that you can possibly imagine. He is in it. Springsteen. He's in that. He's a naked gun. He's in Fantastic Four. He's in everything.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And nobody says, oh my God, I'm so tired of Paul Alterhouser. He's in the star. He just pops into these roles. He's memorably walks away. So there's just so much that you can take. And, you know, Pedro's pretty outspoken on stuff too.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Yes, yes. And so when you're there and plus, over exposed, it's going to be, take a break. Yeah. Yeah. I love the idea of Deltoro
Starting point is 01:16:57 is the Latino product. Me too. Me too. I'm really looking forward to that movie. I wonder which one comes out now first because he's got, he announced the Miami Vice. Czinski is going to do Miami Vice on Apple,
Starting point is 01:17:09 right? Yeah. And then he's also got the UFO movie. I wonder which one he's going to do. Yeah. I think he's going to push the UFO movie because he'll have got his UFO movie. I think they don't want to compete.
Starting point is 01:17:20 I don't think they want to Armageddon Deep Impact. But it's not going to be the same time. It might. I mean, it might. I don't know. But no, but Spielberg already started shooting that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:31 It's already done. It's wrapped. Spielberg, Spielberg's wrapped. No, no, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:38 I just know that Grush was, was consultant on it. That's all I know. Renetta W. IMAX got me in my movie era again. Sinners and Back to the Future. Say less. Buckle up at Showtime.
Starting point is 01:17:50 You're catching either one this weekend. Well, so I've seen sinners now two or three times. Probably not. And back to the future, I've seen so many different times. I know it's great. I would love to see it in IMAX. It's just, Redan, it's very hard for me. If I'm not going to screenings, you go to theaters.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Plus, I'll be completely honest with you. I don't like seeing movies with non-critics at this time. Why? It just not, people aren't behaved. Just like I said, yeah, I've been saying that for over a year now, man. I agree with you 100%. I hate it. I just, I won't do it.
Starting point is 01:18:22 Because. Always check. Yeah. Phones up. Yep. 75 minutes of trailers, feed up on the, on the seats, people bringing in. It's horrible. It's like, it's absolutely terrible.
Starting point is 01:18:35 So I, I know that everybody has the luxury of going to the press screens and they have to do it. And I feel terrible for people. But like, I won't, I'll either wait and watch it at home or I'll get, catch the press screening. I always go during a weekday at like 11 or 12. Very smart. That's what I used to do sometimes. I'd go right in the morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Trey Porter, I watched the new Alan Iverson documentary on Friday. I already knew his life story, but hearing it be told over again, raw and uncouthworth it. Okay, Trey, I'd ask Trey if he had seen it. I need to see that then. There you go. Yeah. I saw that they did a premiere for it. I think it was in New York, actually.
Starting point is 01:19:07 There was a story of how Alan was hustling in the streets in high school and his mom found out about and told him he can stop and she'll handle it. So she ended up hustling in this place to protect him. Wow. Wow. That's crazy. Wow. Wow. I grew up in Virginia.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Iverson was a big deal in Virginia. So he was huge, man. I went to see him play Connecticut at the Capitol Center for Georgetown. I remember skipping out of work. I was doing stuff at a bookstore at the time, and I skipped out on work to go see it. I claimed I was sick, and I went to go see the game. And it was amazing to see him live.
Starting point is 01:19:38 So I want to see that doc for sure. That would be cool. Nathan Drake, I'm a casual spring scene fan. I love his film Broadway show on Netflix, which I highly recommend. I had never heard it. of the Nebraska album though. Yeah, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:19:49 It's a small, hardcore fans, as John will tell you, know it. It's a deeper one for sure, but it was a, it was a very, very different element.
Starting point is 01:19:59 So they covered in the movie. Yeah, a very different album from what he had just done that got him to superstard him. Yep. And then, I mean,
Starting point is 01:20:06 he was recording born in the USA at the same time. That's crazy to me. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, it was pretty nice.
Starting point is 01:20:13 So you, that's the thing, Nathan. So you've probably heard all the really popular ones to dance in, the dark, born in USA, glory days, I'm on fire, like all of that. And that was all, he was doing, he was recording the same thing at the same time and how the Nebraska album came
Starting point is 01:20:28 to be. I thought it was a fascinating story. You know what I did say, John, I didn't cover this earlier. You know what it felt like? It felt like if they would have done like a two-season docu-series on Springsteen, this could have been like two great episodes. Yeah. You know, and like just playing into more, but really covered everything else too. But this would have been great time you would have gotten that leading up to and seeing more of it um but yeah the standalone i do think it was a mistake to to cover this as the as the movie itself a ragel you see house the dynamata netflix ending was lame i thought we both haven't seen it yet but we're we're we're gonna see it both are gonna see i'm definitely gonna see it for sure tray porter and rip to nick mingled
Starting point is 01:21:08 i'm convinced that he gave that jit jett that win yesterday maybe maybe yeah rip indeed a miracle win Yeah. Hey, Rago. How do you think Running Man will do in theaters? Don't see much hype around it. I'm so curious. I'm so curious because I don't think Glenn Powell is the movie star Hollywood wants him to be. I think so glad you're saying this.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Because I have to fight with Jeff all the time on the hot mic about it. I think he's a star. He's a star. I just don't think he's the movie star that they're trying to make him be. Exactly. Is he put button seat star? I don't know if that he's that necessarily. This film is going to let us.
Starting point is 01:21:47 know where he's at. 100%. He's got charisma. My wife can't stand him. I don't know. I don't feel that way. I like him. I enjoy, but he's not, I don't get the kind of like, well, this, this is the guy. Like he's got that thing. This is the guy. I don't. I don't think he was the standout, though. I think Daisy Edgar was the standout. Yeah. Totally. And I think that, but he was good in it.
Starting point is 01:22:11 You know, and he's, and he's good in all these things. I thought it was an interesting choice to Edgar Wright put him as the lead, but he did it for, reason. And it's a very different movie than the 87. The 87, right after this show is over, at 2.30 EST, my reaction of the 87 with
Starting point is 01:22:29 Steph, she had never seen it before. That goes up on the channel. Nice. So I don't think it's going to do that well, but I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong because I like Edgar Wright. And I like him. I think Glenn Powell. I just don't know people are like, oh, running man's coming out. People, from what
Starting point is 01:22:45 I heard in New York Comic Con, the stuff that they show people are excited about it, they want to see it, but I don't know, how do you think it's going to do? I don't, I think it's going to do fine. I don't think it's going to blow the doors off the box office.
Starting point is 01:22:56 I don't think he's a draw that people think he is. And I also don't think I can write as big of a draw as people think he is anymore. And so this is going to let us know where both of them are at, I think overall with the box office. Because they're releasing it, by the way, in Oscar season,
Starting point is 01:23:10 which is the fall and as a counter programming, and they want people to go and have some fun and enjoy the film, will enough people go see it? I don't know. It's going to be really curious to see. And remember, just as I said earlier, this is an 80s IP. And I know it's based on the Stephen King novel, but this is an 80s remake. And so it's like, will people be that curious to see this kind of film? Plus the commentary it's making about a dystopian society.
Starting point is 01:23:34 A lot of people are living it already. So do you really want to go see it in a movie theater? It's asking a lot of questions of the audience. And I wonder what the reactions are going to be. Yeah, because that what comes, I'm trying to think the upcoming movies what what what what what kind of
Starting point is 01:23:49 I mean Chad Hours is doing nothing on Hulu like right right well let's see if as far as comes out
Starting point is 01:23:57 it'll well Predator Badlands will be in its second week and it's going so here here's what the running man is going up against
Starting point is 01:24:07 okay it's going up against now you see me now you don't this is now now I don't necessarily know much of a yearning there was for another one of those movies.
Starting point is 01:24:21 But it is another movie in a proven franchise. Whereas this is a newer version of everyone, if you didn't know it's Stephen King thing, you automatically think you're doing a remake of the Arnold movie, which it's not. Right. It's a retelling of the Stephen King story. So don't expect to see Sub-Zero.
Starting point is 01:24:42 Don't expect to see, you know, all the all the all the all the fun stuff hey christmas tree highlight bulb i'm not going to see any of that um only in reruns oh so good and killian i'll be back you can snap you neck like the chicken so good fuck you maria conchita's a full-on accent i love maria conchita it's it is it's such a product of the 80s it is it's a glorious glorious glorious 80s movie um But, you know, it's going up against now you see me. So one of those, one of those movies will not deliver. I mean, now you see me, the first film movie made $350 million.
Starting point is 01:25:25 The second movie made $340 million. Did it? So you're looking at a juggernaut. That's what I'm saying. And that is the same audience. Yes. Yes. That is the same audience.
Starting point is 01:25:35 That's like if you're going to go to the movies that weekend, what do you want to see? Oh, the new, now you see me. You can see people saying that. If they were a fan of the originals, oh, the new that. Oh, the new running man? Is that the Arnold thing? Oh, no, Glenn Powell. That's what they're banking it on Glenn Powell.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Right. So that's why I agree with you that this is going to prove you and I could be here on the week after that movie comes out, whatever, November 21st when we're sitting here, and we could say, boy, we're rerun. This guy just delivered. And because I'll back up what I just said. That movie was all Glenn Powell. Yes, Edgar Wright, his style.
Starting point is 01:26:11 He made it what it was. But they really marketed it off of that dude. and it delivered. So, yeah, 100%. Okay. Go pal.
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Starting point is 01:26:35 Because this ESPN deal can sniff my nutsack and talk about it on Thursday. Hello. Sorry, I shouldn't have said that Sunday. Isabel. London calling. My dad Carlton is on holiday in France, but he sends both love and support. As always, he'll catch the show later this week. We love him. Tell him, we'll be waiting here for him. He's always traveling. Isabel, when does your dad come home? Like, he's always traveling. It's true. You must enjoy that little freedom in the house. Maybe, maybe not. I want to see her pops like Willie Lohman over there.
Starting point is 01:27:06 Simon's section. Mr. Roka. Such a nobody, nobody, only me and you got that reference. he knocked oh my god my home Willie Lohman took you out wow that's got to be a short
Starting point is 01:27:30 look at what a disaster Mandelaarine and Grogo out for the count that's it amazing oh that was the best ever Willie Lohman oh that was really good well there's my setup folks that was the best thing I've ever
Starting point is 01:27:49 seen on the show Simon section Mr. Rook as a former eight year veteran of Army intelligence what was your opinion on the Air Force pilot was he too soft what's it oh was that oh oh from from welcome to Derry oh yeah yeah yeah yeah KS ending I get it shock value
Starting point is 01:28:05 yeah a little bit of that and it's again I can't really I can't really dive deep without that's spoiling it it's just like yeah there was certain is that thing is that in bad shape that thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:20 All right, well, don't worry about it right now. You're still on the air. Come on. You're stuck it up. All right. Shock value, Sue Storm, Bursin. I didn't want to see. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Yeah. No, thank you. Holy shit. That was the, that was, it was worth the bet. It was worth the bet. Worth the bet. Okay, so 55. Now, come on.
Starting point is 01:28:41 John's got to get a new poster, so we need a hundred. Come on, guys. Yeah. You got to get a whole new background. A whole new background. My choice, Emma Stone really shaved her head for Begonia, and she looks stunning. Whatever you shave your head, I bet you can pull it up.
Starting point is 01:28:53 I got my, there's literally video of me getting my, and I think Napsock might be the host of it, but I lost a bet in 2007 when the Red Sox won the World Series, and I had my head shaved on stage. You can see it. It's on there. And Ellis is on there with some young, young weight, we'll say. go pal
Starting point is 01:29:14 we're taking a look at the Hank Green vids on 3-Ey Atlas I should I should double check Alex so this is my favorite Christian I'm very sorry but three I don't apologize in me for I didn't put it out there
Starting point is 01:29:29 I think it probably is but what do you apologize to me for now we have amateur astronomers coming in no he just said but he's telling me he's like sorry we need sorry apologize to me rock Paul Hitchhawk say Paramount bias Warner Brothers and Gunn is no longer head of DC Studios.
Starting point is 01:29:45 What odds do you give Disney grabbing gun to head Marvel Studios so if you can leave? Fuck, zero, zero, zero. Yeah, no. If you think Disney wants James Gunn's ego around their marble, you're insane. No, I think this is an experiment. I think he'll just, I don't think he'd want to do it anymore, though. I think this is his experiment for him. He wants to, I agree.
Starting point is 01:30:09 I think he does this. He directs movies. That's it. And that's it. You know, as you say, grab your bag and then just direct your movies and write what you want to write. He'll probably get movies made.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Mad Sinister McHale. I saw four movies, Chainsaw Man. That one I did not say. Roof Man, which I love Roof Man. Do you see it yet? I've seen it yet.
Starting point is 01:30:32 It'll be on the app soon. Sure. Good fortune and Creature the Black Lagoon. That's pretty great. Which one's good fortune? The Keanu Reeves, Azizzo. Oh, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:30:42 I don't hear good things. No, and this is why I haven't seen it either. Currently holding in my forts at work from all the pop points. And don't hold them in. Just blame them on somebody else. Don't eat popcorn. It's so bad for you. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Yeah. Derek. Throwing in the support. Thank you, Derek. Thank you, Derek. Derek, one, 10 more membership. Wow. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Ralph. Kaye Sack was on Rogan. It was great. He's a fan of her. You know, I know. So I produced her Eclipse channel. And so we were on the phone, I don't know, a little while ago. And she was telling me she's going on.
Starting point is 01:31:12 then she did great she was she was great i watched it it was um she did she did she really really good she had jim she's just very you guys have seen her on this show for yeah she's shit 15 years and so she's been she's really good and there's a whole reason i told her in the first place why she should do a podcast i literally call her and so you should do a podcast and yeah she did it the reason because she's good at it uh derrick support thank you derrick they're coming in hot 56 uh battery guns got to go i don't want his take on batman or Wonder Woman. I want to see what he does if he holds back and produces.
Starting point is 01:31:47 I want to see, let's see how, before you make that, yeah, on statement, assessment, let's see how lanterns and Supergirl are. And the other one, what's the Clayface? Clayface. Let's see how those are. If those deliver, then I don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Then let, let's see, but if they don't, and it still feels like, guns, DC versus, even if he's not directing, then that's a problem. But let's see. I don't know. How do you feel about it, John? No, you have to let him play it out. The last thing we need to do is reboot all over again, you know?
Starting point is 01:32:25 And the same people wanting him out, there's, it's the same thing as people who wanted Snyder out after one movie. Right. Man of Steel. It's like, rinse, wash, and repeat. Yeah, it's really frustrating. It's predictable, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:38 Johnny producer, hey, Christian, you said you're taking a hit with the Demon Slayer episodes. Is there anything we can do to make up that loss? I mean, if you're watching it, you're watching, it's all you can do. I mean, the other thing that I would say is, you know, watch other reactions if you're interested in them, you know, like, like Running Man, watch Running Man today. Because like I said, if, as long as one or two of them make up the difference, the problem is, you know, I'm paying for the editor. I'm paying for Winston. They're just not doing, I mean, the episodes this weekend, 5,000, 6,000.
Starting point is 01:33:04 I mean, they're eating shit. But I, but I, but I just want to, I want to finish the show. So I'm like, I'm like, at this point, I'm like, yeah, you know what, I'll take the hit, do it. but I don't think I'm going to get into as much as I really enjoying anime, I don't think I'm going to go past Demon Slayer with anime because clearly the audience doesn't really care
Starting point is 01:33:21 for me watching it much. I should, well, I shouldn't. Yes, I shouldn't say the audience that's watching it is enjoying it. Yes, but the audience outside of it isn't clicking on it. So, but I, but I don't want, because I really want to see how it ends. So we're going to do,
Starting point is 01:33:34 we're going to do, we're going to finish the entire series or catch up anyway. So, anything to say is just that watch the watch the other stuff that comes out. If you want to check out the running man, check out the other stuff, that helps. There's DJ. I don't doubt guns, abilities as an artist and director.
Starting point is 01:33:52 I do have concerns about his leadership. It's fair point. There have never been one person in a leadership position who benefited from an overactive presence on social media. Agreed. A thousand percent, dare you know how I feel about this, Derek. A thousand percent agreed. I know people come after me, but it's the truth.
Starting point is 01:34:07 It's a hundred percent. It's hard to disagree with that. Yeah. I mean, but that's unfair for me to say because I just hate social media so much. I hate everybody on social media the way they are when they're outspoken. I think it's you're just screaming into a void. You know, like everybody who thinks like, I'm going to get my opinion out there today. Who are you talking to?
Starting point is 01:34:25 The same people to agree with you. Not changing it. The whole point of like actual debate, really positive, healthy debate and conversation is being able to see the other person's point of view. Yeah. And being able to say, oh, I didn't see it that way. Okay, maybe I'll think about it this way. way now in a conversation that John and I've had those conversations on this show maybe every
Starting point is 01:34:44 Monday yep um you can't do that in social media that's why I like we're live you get in reactions right on who are disagreed with you right there in the real time and real moment yeah I can debate them which is great yeah battery newsome 2028 we reveal alien info collected this is I'm never going to put it I don't like the guy I like Evan dude you talk about he the whole thing he's doing now like I like I like I I like I I just told you, I hate when people are on social media, when you're supposed to be a leadership position, and you're doing, you know, complete, like, I think that it's insanity in general. We've seen it with the president. We've seen it with some people that do it.
Starting point is 01:35:25 And he's doing now the fight fire with fire thing. And it's like, it's like, I get it. But I'm just, I'm so over. You know what? I just hate all politicians. So let's say that. I hate all politicians. I think they're all full of garbage.
Starting point is 01:35:38 All of them. All of them. They're all full of shit. You know I can't agree with you. I know you don't, but they're all full of shit. If today they're fighting the good fight tomorrow, there's going to be someone who's going to donate to their cause that goes, remember you really were lobbying for that thing?
Starting point is 01:35:51 Well, we want you to vote against it. And if you do, we'll put money in your campaign. They go, oh, okay, I'll look the other way. Happens all of the time. They're all shit. Derek Johnson, thank you, Derek. More support from terror. Appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Thank you, Jeremy. And then battery. Black Panther 2 was a mistake. cast a chala for god's sakes i don't know if it was a mistake from what the time the timing that it was i think at this point in time they're going to recast them and they should i i actually don't think they should have recast them at at that time i think it was too soon yeah 100% was too soon and people playing monday morning quarterback on that or you guys just don't understand what's going on at the time there people would have revolted if you had recast there was not enough people that were going to be in
Starting point is 01:36:32 support of you recasting it and the studio has to read the tea leaves for what a majority of the public wants in a situation like that. The majority of the public did not want to see Chadwick Bozeman being tossed aside in essence after he's passed on for someone else to take the role. It just like it wasn't like it wasn't even like it was always him and it was yeah, it would have been tough.
Starting point is 01:36:51 How many people were like, oh yeah, Julianne Moore is a great Cleary Starling. No, people were upset about that. Right. And right. And Joey Foster didn't pass away. Exactly. They shouldn't even pass away. Right. Okay, let's say, hold on a second. Let me get to the next one. here sorry I lost
Starting point is 01:37:09 Alex don't forget Joseph Kaczynski and Gareth Edwards what do you mean? I'm not putting because I'm not putting Edwards in that mix I'll give you though he's talking about the other directors that oh no I wouldn't put Edwards in there either no what is what's he
Starting point is 01:37:26 I mean because I like Kaczynski either I mean Oblivion is still not the greatest Tom Cruise and Trond isn't that great either yeah I need to revisit it. What's the one you just said? Oblivion. I need to revisit it. I haven't seen it in a very long time. I didn't like it when I saw it. But I really loved his last two. I'd say he's the best comeback director, for sure. For sure. Yeah. For sure. Okay. Again, 61 so far. Nice. The Blazing Kides.
Starting point is 01:37:59 Hey, Christian, now that Tron's Aries bomb, do you think that he will make a good skeleton in Masters of the Universe? So here's the thing, though, you know, John and I both said this. I don't think that Jared Leto is the issue in that movie. Now, just having said that, I also don't think he was the right choice to be the star of the film. Fair point. But I don't think that he was the problem. And even though he's produced it, I guess he's partially part of the problem, but it wasn't his performance that ruined the movie for me anyway. So from what, oh, and here's the other thing, and I'm glad you asked this, Blazing, because
Starting point is 01:38:32 I will say again, when I'm mistaken, I will say that I'm mistaken, I was mistaken. I kept saying, like, I kept seeing this, this art of skeletor of this like gangly face and looked like he had a beard and it looked and you see like Jared Lett him, like, that looks horrible. I got confirmation that is not the look. And then I got sent a picture of what actually is the look. Oh. And I like it. Okay. And I like it a lot. And from what I hear, I don't even think you see Leto. You only see Skeletcher the whole time. That's from what I hear.
Starting point is 01:39:08 So I think he very well could make a good Skeletor. It just depends if he doesn't go all a jokery on and try to go so outside the box. Again, from what I'm hearing, Travis Knight is trying to stay as true to the 80s feel of the lure itself than anything. Apparently he'll spend too much time on Earth. I mean, I should have said
Starting point is 01:39:32 I found out a bunch of stuff about the movie. And I've been pretty vocal about how I've been kind of bum, but only excited because Travis Knight is doing it. Yeah. But I got some information on them, and I'm more optimistic. Okay. I'm more optimistic. And I don't think that I, if they do what I'm hearing,
Starting point is 01:39:52 then I think he could make a good skeletor, yeah. Paul Hitchcock, I saw Grillo's Werewolves for free and still feel like I heard off. What a P.O. I bet they premiere that movie ended up playing and people like, you know what? I think I enjoyed that movie. You know why I enjoyed it? Do you know why I enjoyed that movie?
Starting point is 01:40:09 Did you see it? Of course I didn't see it. Go ahead. It's meant to be a B movie that you would see in like the late 80s. It's what the intent of the movie was. Yeah. It is like with the full on special effects. And I mean, it's made it's made like that.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Yeah. I mean, I got it right away when I saw it. I'm like, oh, that's what they want this to be. It's a B movie. If you don't like watching B movies, then no. Then you could absolutely say that. And I can see if somebody just kind of popped it on thinking they were going to get one thing and then got that. I could see it. But I knew kind of what I was going into.
Starting point is 01:40:48 And so that's why I liked it. Fairful. I mean, this is what, but this is what Grillo like stakes is. Like, you know, he does a lot of those kinds of movies. So you just have to factor that into Grillo overall as an artist as a creator. yeah yeah um all right johnny petrieza hey who sold the stone cold stunner the best probably the rock right yeah although angles was good because angles would shoot his head up pause and then go down i like that but scott halls was good too yes yes the worst was Vince Jesus Christ um yeah oh yeah a couple of bad ones
Starting point is 01:41:21 Derek i'd love a new take on zorro yeah tv show zorro would be great he's one of the inspirations for Batman. I think new ideas set would be more present and it would be amazing. I'd like to see a TV show of Zorro. I think they could really make that work. Yeah. Well, there was a really big one last year that was a telenovela that became a big,
Starting point is 01:41:42 big crossover sensation. Darry. Two hours, Derek. He follows it up. Do you believe that this He-Man movie doesn't do well that the doors will be closed to all the 80s cartoon remakes in the future? No. It might be closed on He-Man for a very long time. Right. But on 80s, no, John?
Starting point is 01:42:00 No, I don't think it'll be close because people still have such a soft spot for stuff in the 80s. It becomes retro, it becomes interesting, and so they think this is a way to maybe mine some IP. Because you know this Christian. Studios always looking for IP, no matter what decade it's in. Yep, yep. I got a little surprise for you, John. Okay, bring it on. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Simon's section. Mr. Roka. Such a nobody, nobody, only me and you got that reference. knocked on. Oh my. That's amazing. It's so good. Luke just made that.
Starting point is 01:42:38 He left out the Willie Loman part thing. We got to put it. Willie Loman set it all up. Exactly. And spell my last name right there. That just shows you he didn't get the Willie Loman joke. He didn't know what we were laughing at. Of course,
Starting point is 01:42:48 Luke is 12. That's why. That's why. He didn't know Willie Loman. You got to put Willie Lohman in there. Otherwise, the clip doesn't work. But that was hilarious, though. Derek, thank you.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Mike Joyce. poor skatebow giants are cursed right yeah i mean look at this point i just wanted to lose the rest the season i don't want to go in a single game wanted to get a good draft pick say i don't i don't you know i don't know that they're cursed uh it's you've got a good quarterback in jackson dark yeah you've got scadabo's going to come back he's going to be fine neighbors is coming back uh so you know at this point now you see what the kids got and how he plays um and if someone else can step up but you know there's i think i'd get rid of day bowl though too many people think day bowl is like his job is saved by you got to maybe maybe uh speaking of springsteen movie i talked to wiley todd
Starting point is 01:43:35 the other day on the membership stream was really nice he said i love the springsteen movie it's great with showing the music process and has great moments like born in the usa also deeply relates isolation even bruce has more than me in that regard yeah so i mean riley made that point on the member stream right and he had said because he works in music and he like to see that layer of it and i think of course if you work in music especially if you're big bruce yeah i can say and like roxy major bruce fan i get the way resonated with a lot of people for sure but who actually went to go see it yeah yeah yeah but that's but i think overall just um you're not going to be able to spread that out to a mainstream audience unfortunately yeah that's the problem
Starting point is 01:44:11 but um okay so let's see next one we got 68 hey so mark long says hello there hello mark again let's keep going and next one Alex I know you you're the asshole on TV what oh that's uh that's running man yeah yeah know you you the asshole on TV I can say the same about you so good is it and he rocks that beard in the beginning too we're not going to get captain insaneo I wonder if we're going to be a oh is that that that's what wasn't his name with jessie ventura no it was um wasn't captain insane oh it was I just watched it was his name captain freedom I didn't it was captain freedom I thought it was captain freedom but it was something like that uh Cowboys fan 92 hey John happy
Starting point is 01:44:58 birthday recently finished Game of Thrones the first time ever now halfway through House of Dragons first season Millie's range is amazing she's great in that show yep 1,000% um I'm looking for the Supergirl yes the little Yankee support for rebuilding
Starting point is 01:45:12 this background so good uh motor roland what in the Ussel battle royal contender nonces is going on roca help me make it make sense well I text Roka over the weekend about this at one point where is that guy
Starting point is 01:45:29 where is he you remember that guy where is he the guy I would say it every time after Uso won the Royal Rumble I said the guy is not a main event guy you don't watch the product enough you don't know this is going to be a great run they took the title of him after a month
Starting point is 01:45:46 yeah he's he's got the same stick he's got the same stick and now they gave it to him again to go against punk and it's the most disliked video in like the history of the W.E on that page, whatever it might be. I said to you, I said, this is going to be some of the, if they don't give Punk the title this time around,
Starting point is 01:46:08 this would be such a major error. They need him to do it right now, especially with Rollins out. They don't have any major start. Put the belt on punk for God's sakes. Are they going to finally do it? I think so. I think so. I think it's finally time for him to do it.
Starting point is 01:46:22 And it's like Hogan, right? They had him beat Triple H for the title with Undertaker's help. Right, right. But the reaction was great. And you don't have to keep the title on punk for a long time, but he could carry it for three months. I think it'd be fun to see what punk could create with the title for three months. And it's a way of saying thank you for coming back to the company and being a good guy,
Starting point is 01:46:41 getting people over, helping people both NXT and in the main roster, and just not causing any drama behind the scenes and causing any issues. So here's the belt for a few months. Let's see what you do with it. Why not? I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 01:46:53 look, it's also November, when the time he's going to get that shot. It's only, November, December, January, you're only about four months away from WrestleMania. Yeah. You get the title on them until WrestleMania. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:47:06 Hey, Mr. CJ, earthquake at Rokers. There you go. That was true. Again, he follows up a new background for Roker's birthday. That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen on the show. Matt Krugman, HB. Roka, also celebrated my history. Happy birthday, Matt.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Okay, let's see. And look at you. You're that pretty woman on your side. side. They're doing well in life, brother. Respect. Hell yeah. All right. Next one after that is Faisal. Hey, howdy. Thoughts on Shelby Oaks. No reaction review. I haven't seen it. Haven't seen. Was an offer to scratch. Same thing that I said. Same thing that I don't do what John does. I don't go to I don't. If I miss the press screening, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:47 I really don't. I don't like going to the theater in general with with other peeps. And I also, scheduling wise, it's just hard for me to do. Wasn't offered a screening for that one. So I'm probably going to wind at this point, just going to wind up doing a reaction to it when it comes out. But no, no reaction or review yet because there's no, well, it can't be a reaction yet because I haven't seen it. Cowboys fan, I need to. Also here in DFW, Texas, they currently have a Game of Thrones exhibition with loads of Game of Thrones costumes and props that the actors warring use. That's pretty cool. Nice.
Starting point is 01:48:17 That's fun. That's cool. Mad Dog, what about gun paying himself 15 mil for Superman? As head, seems like he should get paid, but more profit margin, not up front. I happen to agree with that. Hmm. Very much so. I mean, unless, unless, unless, the deal was when he signed up that he said, look,
Starting point is 01:48:38 and I'm doing all these duties and other things as to head that that's my deal. But anytime I direct a movie and it's signed off on, my fee is 15 mil. I mean, if that is part of the contract, then that's what the contract was. Right. You know, if it's like, so if it, if, if, it's. unless it's like you're putting your head of the studio and then you're putting together a deal you know what we need an extra 15 so i can get paid 15 then that's a problem but if it's part of your deal it's part of your deal yeah i think that's the thing if it's part of your deal it's part of
Starting point is 01:49:08 you look at the situation i'm sure peter saffron signed off on all of that stuff and so you know it is how it is uh julian ramos in regards to three eye atlas i just hope the aliens look like roger from american 10 uh perfect all right that simon pay but paul they just look like paul Oh, yeah, that's right. Paul was good. René René Ray, excuse me. Accolite might be the worst show I've ever seen. Nonsensical story.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Zero payoff on our first look at plague is just some creepy alien peeking around a wall. Like, Roka. Just kidding, Roka. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't great. It wasn't great. Worst show ever. I don't know if it's been pretty bad shows. I don't know if it's the worst show ever, but it's certainly, I think it's probably the worst Star Wars show.
Starting point is 01:49:53 I would say. Yeah. Yeah, it says it's the worst Star Wars show. That's probably true. I agree with you. Unfortunately. Yeah. Said episode 5 was fucking excellent.
Starting point is 01:50:01 And if that whole show had been episode like episode 5, I think that was that the one in the, initially in the woods? Yeah, the half an hour one in the woods. If that whole series had been like that, I think people would absolutely love this. I mean, dude, not only did we say the thing about Daphne Keene, completely wasted Carrie Ann Moss.
Starting point is 01:50:18 Oh, yeah. Oh my God, they completely wasted her. Johnny Petriza, that's a bummer. Rando and Grogo and Sigourney Weaver. I know, I would be interested to hear your thoughts on chainsaw man, full mental alchemist, and attack and Titan's champion.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Yeah, I know. Me too. I love to guide to them. And if these would have done well, I probably would have, but I can't. I would much rather put my time and effort into some other movies that Winston
Starting point is 01:50:40 can watch that he's never seen on the weekends than to do ones that just aren't, you know, like I said, I'm operating on a loss. I can't, I can do that for now because I want to finish it, but I can't do that for other shows. Andy Kumar,
Starting point is 01:50:52 we're just worst celebrity encounter, spill the tea. Well, I've told the, I've told the Gary Busey story. that's it that there's nothing that's ever going to top that on the on the on the rooftop with gary busy twice in in heat uh yeah so the gary busey story there you go you got one uh yeah Andrew dice clay one time at the arc light theater would not shake my hand and oh really he claimed you because he had been working out it was weird it was weird I was such a fan of him and I walked him in the lobby this was very early I'm in L.A very early I'm in L.A. early so i was still like on a star struck seeing celebrities yeah yeah and so i walked him i was like i'm so sorry to bother you you know because we're all getting popcorn i just want to tell how much i've
Starting point is 01:51:34 loved your comedy over the years and thought that you are done and i just want to shake your hand thanks for the and he was like i can't shake you again i've been working out i don't want to get the sweat on you all right and he was wearing fingerless weight gloves but he was dressed in like regular clothes yeah yeah you know so it was a weird moment but whatever it is hey i mean you never know uh Alex, I'll admit, I'm kind of an island by myself here, but I love oblivion. I wrote a paper titled, and this is true, Olivia, a good-ass movie for my film class. I got an A. I love that. I recommend giving a second watch. I'm going to, I'm definitely going to watch it again. And I'll tell you, the reason why I'm going to watch it again is because of Kaczynski.
Starting point is 01:52:08 And I'm going to think, like, maybe I, you know, maybe I didn't see it the right way. Is it, is it, is it, Emily Blunt that's in that? No, it's Andrew Reesboro. Oh, that's right. That's right. And I had, that's a, and I, when I interviewed her, asked her about it. Stupid idiot, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Derek Johnson, I didn't see all of the show.
Starting point is 01:52:29 How are you feeling about that NBA gambling betting scandal? Fill me in here, John. Oh, yeah, this is a massive thing. It's been going on, apparently it's been going on for years. Yeah. They have arrested Charlie, sorry, Chauncey Billups, Terry Rozier. And apparently they were involved in some situations where they, were, one of them was taking themselves out of a game and having their friend bet money
Starting point is 01:52:58 on his stats and on his time in the game and they were making a lot of money off of that stuff. And then there were two poker games that both Chauncey and I think Terry were being used as like face people. Okay. Get people to take part in the poker games and the poker games were fixed. Like there were like communication, there were mirrors, all this kind of stuff. And so they were being used to, but of course, these are all allegations. And both of them deny it. And so does Damon Jones, who's also wrapped up in this, and he's close to LeBron, because apparently he's telling info
Starting point is 01:53:27 on LeBron as well. That's the allegations. But it does not look good. It's really bad. And to be fair, some people are like, well, this is Stephen A. Smith, oh, is the Trump administration going after NBA? This has been going on for years. So the Biden administration was investigated. And they just now started making arrests.
Starting point is 01:53:44 So, yeah. Don Rinaldo McGukey. Shout out to you guys in this show. Thank you, Don. Thank you. Appreciate that very much. 77, John, pretty good. Yeah. Derek throwing in some more support there.
Starting point is 01:53:57 Same with Chef Brooklyn. And Nathan Drake, Mangold should do Springsteen. Too late now. Too late now. Yeah, that would have been a good director. Great. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 01:54:09 Nathan also says, Jeff Snyder predicted that Cougar wins best director. He's come around, Jeff on centers. Now, all of a sudden. It seems like, I don't, you think he'll win it? I don't know. I got to see, I got to see who else is up.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Yargos is probably going to get a shot too. YARgos and then and then and Paul Thomas Anderson too. And I also think John M. Chu will be up for for Wicked. I hope so. I hope so. He deserves it for last time. I am two fly cam. Obi-Wan was far worse than Ackleit.
Starting point is 01:54:35 Lear running. I don't like that show, Obi-Wan, but it's, it's more, there's more good in there than there was accolite. I disagree. Look, that, that Leia moment was atrocious. The Benny Hill, Benny Hill moment, it's the worst. It's the worst. It's the worst.
Starting point is 01:54:48 and there's so many stupid things and it looks so cheap they drop the ball in that show tremendously but it's not it's not worse than Accolite it might be in my opinion. Yeah because there is a lay a moment in just about every episode of the Acolyte except for that episode five so
Starting point is 01:55:05 right like you know if you take one moment and plus it by 10 or whatever it's not a good sign yeah Paul Hitchcock oh we do we got we did there already oh it's a different but it's same comment but different ending oh oh okay sorry gun paying himself 15 million for Superman is decent but the zombie still wins for paying himself 39.85 million for dragging the monster I still want to know what the actual budget was for that there's that rumor that was 40 million and I'm I am convinced and I never want to find out the answer to this question I'm convinced that rob zombie watched that video of me and Brett talking about that because he tweeted out and said all these people talking about this is not true you know how the hell am I going to make a move of 40 million dollars?
Starting point is 01:55:47 hilarious. Aaron Ambrose. How are you going to arrange Demos later this week? It's a great question. So I think the way that we're going to do it is we're going to do it. It depends. If I have enough time with Winston, which I think I will, actually, I'm probably going to just release the, I'm going to do the last two episodes of season one,
Starting point is 01:56:12 which will come out on Saturday. And then I'm probably just going to have episode one of season two, release on Sunday and then do the movie the following week. Derek, think you do well with One Piece anime watches. If you cut out the filler, watch arcs and just have reactions to segments of the arc. Yeah, Derek, you can't make that risk right now. I just can't make that risk, unfortunately. Hey, hey, Mr. C.J.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Christian, have you swung the sledgehammer during your workouts? No, no, I have a pretty consistent routine that I do. And that's not part of the part of the work. work out. But I did that with a cross such. It's it's very effective. I mean so dudes I see some these people when I'm there like I said I have my my thing that I do with the consistency on it. And they're like they're hanging up and said down like Batman. I'm like I can't I can't do that. I'm like I would I get tired just looking at that. I can't. Um, this one you've gone into the real addiction to me. No way. John Darius. Hey guys. Question should Disney reboot slash remake
Starting point is 01:57:12 Star Wars episodes four or five and six? I understand the importance of those films with the you ever think they need to do a do-over for modern cinema? I think that it's in a very different state because they're still actively making movies in that timeline and TV shows in that timeline. So it's not like it's been dormant for a year. Then they just refraud. So no, I don't think that those will ever be remade. I think that they're the one set of movies.
Starting point is 01:57:35 And look, it's the same way that like the Bond movies won't be remade. They just continue to make new ones, you know. I think they're working on from what I've heard or what I've seen online. like they're working on a 4K version of the original cuts of the 4, 5, and 6. I think that needs to come out. I think the closest you'll get to a remake is they're going to recast these guys. And they should. It's way past time.
Starting point is 01:58:00 They should do that. Don't recast Black Panther. Great. We are way past the sell-by date to recast Luke and Leah and Hahn. That's a great point. I think that they're so afraid to do that that they don't. You can get some really great stories with Luke Skywalker. Walker and some great stories with Leah and
Starting point is 01:58:17 Han, but it's like, you got to and do not, and look, I love the guy. I think the guy is a great actor. You cannot cast Alden Aaron Rike again as solo. I agree. I agree. I say, you know what I said John about him is that he's a great, he's not cool. No, he's not cool like so.
Starting point is 01:58:33 He's not cool. He's just, what what role has he done really that that's cool? But never. Even in weapons. Yeah, weapons, but also Ironheart, right? Yeah, he wasn't. I know he's supposed to be nerdy.
Starting point is 01:58:49 No, he was good. Harrison Ford could have played that role and still made it cool. He's great in every movie he's in. I really enjoy him as an actor. I think he elevates projects when he's in it. He's just not cool. Yeah. And that's okay. You don't have to be, but Hans Sol is cool. He's not cool. Yeah. Derek Johnson, most degrees waste to me in Acculate was Mani. And yeah, Mani was, I think he was the most well developed at anybody. That's the one thing. Lee Jung Jay, I think the both of them, those two, as much as you could have seen them do more, they were the most developed out of anyone.
Starting point is 01:59:21 I'm not a diehard for Star Wars fan with the premise got me to watch. That's fair. The thing is, when you look at shows, you look at movies, screen time can matter, but the great actors or the damn good actors are the ones who can make the most with the least amount of screen time. And both Mani Jacinto and Li Zhang Jay did that. And that's why Mani stood out the way he did. You know, Amanda Lestenberg had all this time, didn't stand out anywhere near as much as Manny did. And she didn't help herself out.
Starting point is 01:59:47 She didn't put out so much that you wanted to make the show about her. She didn't help yourself out, though, too. She took the social and blamed everybody for the reason. It's not smart. Peter Kalenko. Hey, Christian, are you and Steph going to react to Arnold's Conan? I think so. I think so.
Starting point is 02:00:03 And Roka, can you remind me which days and time you guys stream? Well, here's what I'll tell you. Starting November 1st, I'm going to start going drive time live every day, four to six, four to seven. That's the plan. And I will fold in the other shows that I do on the channel now to be a part like spill of tequila and others. And so that's kind of the plan. We'll see where hot mic goes. There's a talk about just making that a Patreon-only show.
Starting point is 02:00:30 So there are changes coming. So just follow me on social media. I'll make the announcements at the Roka says I'll make the announcement soon for sure. Last of you guys caught up on slow horses. I am not. Yes, I need to be. people love that show so much. There is no screener series that pops up
Starting point is 02:00:44 that I watch faster than a new series of slow horses pops up. We've heard it two days. It's a good season this season. I've heard it was amazing. Okay, so just a couple more here, John. 87. Pretty good, pretty good start. Derek, a little bit more. Motorola, not a personal celebrity story,
Starting point is 02:01:00 but from my dad, Brad Paisley mentioned. He was a fan of my dad and my dad goes, sure thing, pal, and keeps walking. Thanks for ruining Luke's future country career. That's great. What are you doing Joe? I miss you, bud. That's a great story. All right.
Starting point is 02:01:21 We did it. We made it. It is the Monday show. We had a good conversation myself and John. Make sure you check out John Roker on the John Roker channel one more time. John, where can you? Please follow my social media at the Roka says. As you can see, my background is half done.
Starting point is 02:01:37 At the Roker says on social media and my YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roker says, we're like 30 away from 40,000. Please come and subscribe to the channel and enjoy the content there. Thanks, Christian, lovely Monday. Enjoy yourselves, everybody. Take care. Bye. Thank you guys for being here.
Starting point is 02:01:53 Lots going on on the channel. Soon, around 2.30. And about just around half an hour from now, we'll have the reaction for Running Man, 1987. So make sure you check that out. I see somebody asking me as far as this. Let me bring that up. production on the show that I have a phone call today that I'm hoping we turn what we hope is our
Starting point is 02:02:16 final draft of the show but we'll see what the producer and director have to say about it today and then the goal is to then start going over potential cast and as I mentioned we're going to put together the cast list the people that we want things to and as where pilots are are you know they're pricey so we're going to say this is the minimum that we can do it for set that goal hope that we exceed that goal. And then I should have an announcement of, I'm going to do a full stream when we announce both the tiers and I'll probably announce the director and the producer
Starting point is 02:02:50 on the same stream. And then we'll do it. So that's it. No, I know this already. It shouldn't anymore, Casey, thanks. Appreciate you guys. You guys rule. And Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere.
Starting point is 02:03:09 podcasts are found. When will I announce the Kickstarter? I wish I knew. Fair enough, all right. We'll see you guys on the flip side.

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