The Kristian Harloff Show - Scream 7 reviews in, is this franchise dead?
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Scream 7.
The reviews are in.
You can get my review.
I missed it.
For good reason, which we'll talk about in a second.
But the reviews aren't great.
Is that the end of the franchise?
Or is it still got some life in?
Talk about that.
Warner Brothers Discovery releasing their financials for the last quarter.
when, by the way, everybody was looking to buy them.
And they lost a lot of money.
Some slick gatherings going on.
And speaking of that,
rumors are that they're actually warming up to the idea of the Paramount bid now.
Uh-oh.
The hell's that mean?
What else is going on?
We got tons of shit going on.
Disney.
The new press.
You're going to have a lot of challenges.
What's he going to do with Star Wars?
What's he going to do with Avatar?
What's he going to do with Marvel?
Well, it's all stuff that's been presented to the new boss.
So we'll discuss that and more.
So let's get into this with myself and Steph Sabra.
It is Christian Harlov show here today.
Let's do it.
Did you shit in there?
Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen.
It is Thursday.
on the Christian Arlo show and joining me on the show each every Thursday is one, Steph Sabra.
There she is. Hello, Steph. What's going on? Hi. How are you? Good. How are you? Good.
So it's funny. I really do like this discord that we have, but today, today I did the shake of the, the, shake of the finger today.
What you mean? I love the community that they built over. They're almost a 200 on the discord.
It drives me nuts when people don't really know what this show is
And they make comments that I'm like
Come on, the guy, it wasn't a bad guy
But he's just like, oh, you know, I'm watching for a bit
I don't like how mean Christian is to Mike
I'm like, are you kidding me?
Mike tells me to shut my mouth
Every other second and calls me numb nuts
We've been talking with 25 years or more to each other like that
I've known him and it's like I said to the guy
I said look you make the comment
It's a very Reddit like comment
And I'll tell you this.
If you don't understand the dynamic of the show, you might want to find a new show.
Because that's, I mean, for as long as you and I have been doing shows with Mike, has anything changed in how we speak to each other?
No.
No.
Haven't you guys known each other since?
Like 30 years.
College or something?
Yes.
Like a long time.
A long time.
And you think that.
So yesterday, I don't give a little.
Mike's just nice to like me and Rocks.
Yeah.
Right.
And even then he'll brush your guys chops.
For sure, for sure.
But that's it.
So, and one of the things, even yesterday, like, and we always clear things with each other.
A perfect example is this.
So, you know, we did the interview with Penny Barber yesterday.
Oh, I didn't know that was yesterday.
So we didn't air it.
We recorded it.
So we were recording it.
And it's the reason I missed my scream screening because my silly, silly me, I got my East Coast and West Coast Times
messed up. So when I when they asked for 2 p.m. I was like yeah, I'm giving more than enough time.
But I was like, wait, that's 5 p.m. for me. I needed to be on a train by like at least 5 o'clock
to order to get to the city. So I couldn't I couldn't do that to them because they had scheduled
it around her schedule. And B, I couldn't do that to Mike.
Mike's waited his whole life for this moment. His whole adult life. Steph, he was so like he was
sending like sweating emojis and everything to like he was. I said to I said in our
group text with me, him and Roxy. I said, this is his Julia Roberts interview. Like, this is how I
imagine myself prepping for the Julia Roberts interview. He, so I don't want to give too much.
Right. I need to know a little. But look. So look at that picture alone, right? Oh, my God.
And so Mike was just like, getting nervous. So I said to him, and I cleared it with him first, right?
So before the same guy comments on this on whenever that is, I said,
to Mike, I go, I think it'll be a good bit if I let her know how nervous you are.
He'll say, that's fine.
So we talk about it the whole time.
And Steph, Roxy and I have never seen Mike like this.
He didn't say anything.
He was like, he asked some questions.
But he was like, I might as well taking him to Disneyland.
Like, we couldn't believe it.
Roxy and I were sitting there and even Penny was like, you're so quiet.
And he's like, but I'm just listening.
It was, it was, I dare to say adorable.
Oh my God.
It was hilarious.
Like he, if anybody watches this show and knows the Tuesday show,
saying that Mike Kalinowski was silent and like, you know, shy, you couldn't imagine it.
Wait, so did it?
go well? It went great. She was amazing. She's, she's really great. Very, very easy to talk to.
She was great. Talked about the business. She's very, like, she's a, and this is a compliment.
She's a film snob, but not, not the shit we talk about. She was throwing out independent and
foreign films that made me feel like an imbecile. Like, like, like adult film snob? No, no, no.
Not like real, but I know what you mean, but like, no, cinema.
Oh, awesome.
She's like a real film.
Awesome.
She's a movie buff, but she's a movie buff and like, she was throwing out movies.
I'm like, what the fuck is movie is that she's talking about?
That's awesome.
And she could, she would have been if we did an independent Schmowdown film.
I mean, she was, she was very much educated in the in the film world.
And it was impressively.
She was talking about that kind of stuff.
And so it's, and we talked about, you know, the business and other things too.
And she was, she was great.
She was great.
This is like the funniest coming of age story for Mike ever.
Roxy and I talked about it.
Well, A, we talked about right after the interview.
And then we talked about it on the phone.
We're like, I've never seen Mike like that.
It was hilarious.
I almost want to get, well, it's just for the people, I guess we were watching the show.
There's, I got to get, I have to get this spoiler because it's going to make people watch the show.
Penny got him to call her mommy.
She's like, because he was like, because he was like,
like he wasn't saying anything. She's like, she's like, Mike, you say yes, mommy. Right. He goes,
he goes, yes, mommy. We were like, it was, it's hilarious. It's so good. I couldn't believe it.
And she, and she couldn't believe that he did it too. It was hilarious. It was hilarious. It was
hilarious. It's so good. I can't wait. How was it an hour? It was an hour. Oh my gosh.
I cannot wait to watch it. It's, it is, um, it's going to be the most talked about thing that we've done
on this channel for quite a while because
just my for people who know Mike
how are you going to title the episode
interview Penny Barber
Penny Barber does it
you know Penny talks
the industry you know
life outside of it
movies
other things you know
so yeah
but um
insane I can't believe you guys did that
it was great it was great and well and I say you know
I literally I said to you should come on to the
the regular show
just talking about movies. I mean, she knows. She's like, well, I don't talk about a lot of the mainstream stuff.
I said, who cares? I said, in the way that Roxy did, you know, TV picks, we could do Penny's picks.
Yeah. Five-minute thing. I recommend it and talk about it. We'll see. We'll see how the audience.
We'll see what the interview does. I think it's hilarious in the beginning of the interview.
She's like, I had no idea what the hell I was walking into. She said, I didn't know.
She said, you know, they don't really talk about the.
the industry is about other things, but you should do it. She's like, all right, I'll do it. And
it was great. That's awesome. Yeah. I can't wait to watch it. It's, it's solid. I wish,
I mean, we recorded it on Riverside and, you know, so we're going to, Jonathan's editing it. So
we're going to, we're going to really put the bells and whistles on it and make sure everything
solid and that way it's not. Because you see, the picture you see here is just the way that it
kind of came out in, you know, the actual, the four person recording. It's not going to, you're not,
the interview is not really going to be allowed.
It'll be single shots of me, single shots of Penny and Mike and Roxy.
Roxy's so good.
I mean, she really is.
She's just so good.
She's such a great interviewer.
I'm so glad that she was, we've been interviewing people together for like, you know,
10 years.
And so I was so glad that she was there because I was asking a lot of the bulk of the questions.
And I knew that I could take a pause, ping pong it right to Roxy.
And she's done, you know, and not just you say she did research.
You're like, oh, what kind of research did she do in her?
She did a lot of the personal research, other research.
Roxy's a, she's a pro.
Totally.
So it was really, really good.
It was really good.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm excited.
That'll air on Wednesday.
I don't think I'm going to do a live show next Wednesday.
Because normally sometimes I'll put like, I'll do a live show, start asking questions and run the interview.
But I think I'm just going to let the interview run on its own.
And so there won't be a show next Wednesday.
But another thing that sucks because I was Tuesday.
I was going to do, we were going to basically talk about this.
I mean, Roxy and Mike will talk about it.
But like I, they scheduled another call from my show on Tuesday at the same time at 12.
And they were going to be recurring.
I was like, I can do it again next week.
But if we can move it, you know, because they want to now do consistent weekly phone calls so we can get the thing out there and get the campaign out.
And I was like, if we can wait, you know, if we can just push it the next week.
So I think I'm going to miss.
Next week I'm going to be on the show like twice because Monday I have a screening for the bride, which I'm very excited about.
Oh, I'm so excited to see that movie.
Yeah, me too.
So Monday, Monday I see the bride.
So Roko will have to host the loan.
Tuesday, I got my phone call.
And then Wednesday we'll do the penny interview.
Thursday, I'll do the show with you.
And then Friday, Friday I'll do capes.
So, um, as long as you're on Thursday.
I'll be on Thursday.
Yeah, I'll be on Thursday.
And then you and I so like, and that's the thing.
So Tuesday.
Tuesday?
Yeah, I have to text you about that because I might and see if there's other times.
Okay.
That's to shoot a movie.
So that we can make sure we're shooting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we're doing some movies.
So Steph and I are going to do.
I have, I have five or snow like six or seven movies for us to do.
I have Ferris Bueller's day off.
Yeah.
Builder Dreams.
Um, uh, boogie nights.
Yes.
Born identity one, two, three, four, and five.
So that's like eight movies for us.
We got, like, we have eight weeks of stuff to, to record until we, you know, finish everything else out.
Um, that's a lot.
Yeah, I'm excited.
Um, yeah, so we'll figure that out.
We'll figure that out.
Okay.
I, someone asked if you saw Wall Street.
There's no way you've ever seen Wall Street.
No.
No, that's what the shit.
Not Wolf of Wall Street, right?
No, no, no, no.
Most Wall Street movies, Steph hasn't seen.
No.
Most 80s movies, sorry.
80s movies.
Most 80s movies she hasn't seen.
So you throw in 80s movies out there.
And it's not crazy when you think about it, right?
It's like, there's a lot of 80s movies or let's say, she was born in like the early 90s.
So it's like me, like I've seen, I've seen, you know, a lot of like, I haven't seen many
movies in the 60s and the 70s like you know yeah my parents aren't the they they watch new movies
every single day right just they don't really like circle the block right you just it's just i'm well
i'm going i'm working the thing is i really want to work on making sure that she has that
knowledge of the 80s movies but you fuckers got to watch come on you got to watch uh all right listen
12 questions so far not bad considering we have any
has started yet, really. And you need to hit 106. Okay, Roka? No, Roka was in the lead up until the very
end of Tuesday's show. Roxy and Mike were down. Oh, because everyone was putting in their
questions. They put in questions for paying, but that wasn't really the only reason. Because they were,
and I want to let people know, I got to a fair share of your questions, by the way. I got to a fair share of
them. I'm hoping PLD updated all of them yesterday on that dock because I asked a fair share of the
ones that were on that dock. So I'm hoping that's from both shows. I don't remember. I'm hoping
that he did. So anyway, so let's see if we can do it. 12 questions. We need 106 for Steph to tie,
107 to put her in the lead. So let's see if we can do it. Lots of big stories here, stuff.
Yeah. And let's, I want to start. Okay, let's see.
hopefully Luke can come in, change that.
I don't know what happens.
It happens every time.
It drives me crazy.
I don't know why it happens.
He still hasn't shown me how to fix it.
Okay.
Let's get to this one.
And where the hell is it?
I want to get to the screen.
Oh, there it is.
Are you going to see, are you a screen?
I forget, have you seen the movies?
No, I've seen randomly.
I lost you.
Sorry.
How many, how many have you seen?
randomly I think I saw scream five so you don't really remember have you seen one no you've never
seen one no oh shit stuff maybe that's what we should do instead okay because it's coming out
yeah you've never seen scream one I didn't know that oh wow oh we might have so I got like I like
read like what's the vibe of scream before five but that was it right so that's I mean yeah but you
don't have a real you but you do you know what happens in the first movie
I don't remember now, but I think I knew what, I don't know.
I don't know.
I read like a summary.
So here's what I think we're going to do.
I think that we're going to do that.
Scream instead.
We'll put up the other ones on the back burner.
We'll watch all the scream movies.
But I think when the new one comes out, I might do a scream seven reaction with me, you and Sadie, the three of us.
Oh, that's fun.
I think that's what we'll do.
And she'll come in here with me and we'll record.
All three of us will watch it together because I have never seen it, obviously.
She wanted to do that one.
But if you've never seen the other ones, I mean, that would be great.
Yeah.
All right.
So that's our plan then.
We look at it.
We just came out.
Please don't watch anything to try to stay off the internet about any spoilers or anything, too.
Because that'll be a great one for you to watch.
So let's start doing it.
We can knock out.
I mean, look, if you have actually.
time in the week to maybe do more than one, that might be helpful, too, if you do. We can figure that
out. But we should knock out shit, man. Yeah, we'll talk offline and see when we can schedule
because we should do Scream 1. Yeah. Great. Okay. All right. So let's talk about the new one and the
reactions itself. Hopefully there's no spoilers in there for step. We'll see. So,
Scream 7 reviews are in Ski, as they say, in certain parts of France.
No one really says that, but that's fine.
Reviews are finally in for Scream 7.
The response is probably not what Paramount had hoped.
With 30 reviews counted, the movie sits at 47%,
second lowest score in the franchise to date ahead of only Scream 3, which is at 45.
Metacritic, the new film, is drawing 43 out of 100 of the worst of a franchise so far by a clear margin.
Williamson recently shared at the film's premiere that he and Neff Campbell have started,
are discussing an eighth installment in the film,
but a lot will depend on how this film is received
and performs. New piece and variety
for the film also confirms Neff Campbell, who is
infamously absent from the sixth, or a pay
dispute, got a major $7 million
deal to return for this, dubbed a hefty raise
from her prior salary.
This surprising refreshing
taken from million materials, unconcerned with meta
discussions about where the film stands in the canon.
It may have taken 30 years for
Williamson to finally steer his on ship, but with
Scream 7, it proves well worth the weight.
So that's too positive right back and
forth. It's not that Scream 7 is bad. It is a bad screen movie. There's no bad screen movies.
Even the worst one's kind of all right. And this is the worst one. It says Bibbs. Simply put,
I was elated with Scream 7. So far, there's three positive reviews. There's a wrote quality to the
proceedings that makes seven feel like a slog despite its high body count. Despite the occasional
cheeky moment and brutal slang, a property that once satirized, horror cliches has largely
succumbed to them.
not terrible reviews.
I mean, even the ones that are bad,
they're not terrible.
I think this is one of those,
like,
as they said about Scream,
potentially Scream 8,
this has nothing to do.
The critics have nothing to do
whether or not Scream 8 is going to be made.
He said,
well,
how well this is received.
Not by critics.
It's all about,
if the fans show up to this movie
and it has a strong opening,
it doesn't matter what the critics say at all.
Yeah.
The fans are,
it's hardcore enough.
Now,
the question is and people keep asking
I guess there was a protest
about it because you know
the drama behind this
A little bit
So Melissa Barrera who was the
star of the last two
That's so that I must have seen her in one
Because I remember and I remember
She was in the last two
And she tweeted out about
You know some political stuff you know
You can look up the whole scandal
So there was
there was a major pushback on it.
Well, she got fired because of it.
And so then they brought Nev Campbell back.
And because they brought Neff Campbell back, you know, people like,
oh, they did that only because, you know,
they, because of her, because of Melissa's beliefs and then there's some protests for it.
I don't think that's going to have a big impact on the box office itself.
I think that there are going to be people that in the same way that I don't,
think there's going to be a dip in the ratings for Harry Potter.
I think that people who really want to see this are going to see it now.
But if it stinks, then that's going to hurt fans' future, you know, want to go see this movie.
How do you feel?
Yeah, I think I kind of remember that and remember feeling like that was a really stupid choice by the studio.
But I'm not like as intertwined by with the franchise.
So I kind of have to agree.
in the sense that people will,
I don't know what the demographic is
of people who care about that,
about Melissa Barrera,
as much as they care about the screen franchise.
I feel like newer fans like me really enjoyed her in it,
and I enjoy her as an actress,
regardless, so I'll watch her and other stuff.
But I don't think it's, yeah,
it'll be interesting to see.
I kind of have to agree that I think it has to do with
how good the movie is being received by its inner,
the core fans.
And then like those types of movies,
like the critics,
the Rotten Tomatoes score doesn't matter.
It doesn't.
And you know,
it's one of these things.
Scream has that same kind of thing
that Jurassic Park has.
It's like,
and there's a few of these movies.
I just like,
they haven't been necessarily,
all of them have been great,
but I like watching them in the theater.
Right.
There's something about them that I just like,
okay, there's a new screen movie coming out.
It'll be fun to watch that theater.
And I've left.
A few of them going, I remember one time I said in the review, the best part of the whole
experience was some guy farted in the theater and was hilarious.
That's amazing.
And that was some, that was, I don't remember which one that was.
But then the next one I liked.
And I was like, okay.
So this could be one of those things.
It's maybe.
And didn't, in final destinations, didn't the last one?
Aren't people saying it's like the best one?
Right.
Right.
And the last final destination was really, really good.
very enjoyable and there's been a few of them that have stunk up the joy.
Right.
So it's a matter of, you know, how long before it gets too tired and too crazy.
Look, I haven't seen the movie.
I can't speak about it.
But I am curious to see.
I mean, look, I understood what Bibiani was saying there, you know, where it's like
all these movies that kind of, you know, they're always enjoyable in a certain aspect.
This just happens to be the one that's the least enjoyable.
And I understand that.
I understand that kind of philosophy.
Again, haven't seen the film.
Don't know.
But the opening box office will be the most telling.
That's going to be like what I wonder what it's trending right now.
What it was tracking at?
What I, shit.
I think there was something, it said it in the, in the news yesterday, what was tracking.
I let me double check and see.
I don't wonder if anybody has that information.
But I saw, yet when we were one of the.
the stories when we're going over stories yesterday i think one of those things were uh now i get ads
for snowblowers fuck off um oh is set for a 60 million global start a global start so the question is then
let's see how much is previous film opened at 44.4 domestically and a further 22 overseas for
66 um the previous film so with everybody coming back how will that work uh there's no competition
this week. So let me see. And the one thing that was kind of telling was that, you know,
last night was the screening and all the reviews came out today and the movie essentially
drops tonight. So that's usually, right, tell that they know like,
you know, like, maybe the critics aren't going to like this one, but let's just hope the audience
goes. Yeah. I'm going to look at what's coming out this week. Besides, I mean, it's got
withering heights to deal with. And that's in like week three, goat, not the same audience.
the Elvis Presley concert is coming out with it.
Now, next week is dark arrows.
And then it really just, the bride, the bride is good.
And people are talking about the bride.
And that could knock off some screen money.
And then the following week is undertone reminders of him.
It doesn't have any real big studio competition until Project Hail Mary comes out on March 20th.
So if people want to go to the movies and want to go nostalgic stuff and are
scream fans, it might do pretty well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do they not usually do a Halloween drop or is it?
No, no.
I feel like it usually drops around like February March.
I think that's usually when scream hits.
It feels like this is usually when it drops.
If my memory serves correct, every time I remember going to see scream,
it's like always March.
Yeah, I guess that makes, it kind of makes sense.
It's just been, it, it, it, they did what, you know, they, they put their, their flag down, you know, and they said this is where we have done well in the past.
We're going to try again.
So I don't think that, that it doesn't matter.
Even, even this thing winds up getting 35 million.
I mean, look, this, it actually comes out today.
So it's February, release not March.
So, even if this.
thing does 35% on rotten tomatoes, but opens up at 60, 65 mil and then does another 30 to 40
or 30 next week.
They'll make another one.
Yeah.
It means people still want to see it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They just have such a, the horror franchises do well for themselves with that.
Like, they just can, people just want to see when they like the franchise.
Yeah.
And the other one, I mentioned Project Hail Mary.
A lot of screenings happened for that one.
And I was, I was bummed as I was looking for, I was like trying to get one.
I got one for Wednesday.
Next one is I saw, I saw, I saw a bunch of people had already seen it and getting good, like, Mance and a few other people were talking about how good it was.
So I'm excited to, that's one.
That one is, I think it was on my most anticipated, at least, yeah, I'm pretty sure it was.
Pretty sure it was.
It does look really good.
I liked the newest trailer that came out.
I was like, oh, I didn't know it was going to be funny.
I'm not watched.
I didn't watch the last trip.
Because I've seen, I've seen enough to know.
And I actually was mad at myself because I told myself I wasn't going to watch any trailers for that movie at all.
Because I knew Lord Miller were doing it.
Gosling was doing it.
It was getting enough hype.
I was like, I'm just going into this movie.
I'm going to see it when I see it.
But then I was doing my most anticipated.
And I was like, okay, let me look.
I really want to see this, but can I put it on my list if I don't really know enough about it?
And I looked and I was like,
I mean, this movie looks great.
Yeah.
Apparently the last trailer gives away way too much.
It gave away a lot.
It gave away a lot.
But honestly, usually that doesn't work for me, but it kind of was super charming where I was like,
okay, maybe this is one.
Because I didn't know if it was one that I wanted to see when it just came out on I could buy it home or if I'd go to the theater.
But I think I'm going to go to the theater for it.
I don't know.
My trailers still have not learned to stop doing that.
I know.
It's like, just give a little.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
It doesn't need to be like the level that Barbie hit the trailer where you're like, I have no idea, but I'm so in.
Just like give the vibe.
Don't like tell when it's like three minutes, I'm like, are you guys insane?
Look, I know what I go.
Yes.
I give, I give Filoni shit.
I know I do.
But one thing I'll give him props on.
I like how he runs his trailers a lot of times when he shows.
He barely, he from his shows.
He shows stuff from like the first episode.
and like a couple things from like the first episode and never like the whole story like
I applaud them for that and I think that um we still don't really know unfortunately
the thing I don't think that works in general is we don't know yet what the story is about
for mandolin and grogou we still could know what the story is but I still you can't you can't
you can't say about that trailer that it gave away the whole movie we don't really know
what it's about yet you know right so um I hate
When movies, if movies have hype behind him, I hate when movies give away the entire plot.
I'm like, why are you watch?
What are we doing?
Stop that.
I know. It's the weirdest thing.
So I'm not, I'm so glad that I missed the last trailer from everything I heard.
It was just gave away everything.
So it does give away a lot.
I'm good.
I'm seeing it on Wednesday.
I know enough about the movie.
I'm good.
So I'll have my out of the theater on that.
I'm going to see Hoppers tonight, which, that's the new, the new Pixar one.
I'm bummed that I can't take my little one to see that one with me.
Right.
because she's going to by the time I leave it'll be it'll be too late for her I can they have like a 9 p.m.
bedtime she she's got she's we try to get her in bed by like yeah just around like eight little after
eight and then she usually craps out around nine yeah um so yeah that's that's why I got to see if I can
get her she you know she's been my food buddy lately I know I saw her little waddle into the store
I was like the best waddle ever best waddle ever ever and she was just
She was so excited, which I went to this place called the Gwax Shop.
And they were, and when I told her that the guy had reached out to me,
she should come out at a Gwax shop.
I was like, I'm very familiar with your restaurant.
My, my daughter loves it.
It's her favorite, it's her favorite Mexican grill place out here in Long Island.
And so we, we went there.
And the guy was, this guy was great.
This guy, I think I told the story.
But this dude was, he co-owns it with his brothers, or his brother and somebody else,
another partner, but they own like, I think like seven or eight restaurants.
This one's been open for like eight years.
I guess 25 years old.
What?
Yeah.
I was like and just knew the business, knew it.
It was just like like a hustler.
Damn, owning restaurants is not easy.
At 25 years old, owning, not just one, eight of those motherfuckers.
Damn.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
So, and the food's really, really good.
It was solid.
So I posted that on my.
Instagram I post it. I'm going, one of my favorite pizza places that I go to before I go to the
before I go to the, the, um, the, um, the screenings. I usually try to pop in there for a slicer to.
I'm going to cover them next. They're really, really, cool. They actually named a slice after Matt Sera.
Oh, that's funny. What's on it? It's like a, is it like a Pesto? I don't know what, what it, I'm going
to cover it when I put it in my video. Like, um, but yeah, they, they, they did that because I introduced him to
this place. And then he talked about it on
Rogan and they, you know, obviously their business
did pretty well after he did that.
And
yeah, so I'll be covered
that. I'm covering more places, more food places
out here. It's been fun to do and she's been my
she's my food buddy.
Yeah, she's great.
She's funny. Okay, look.
What do you guys
think about all this stuff, the scream
reactions, all of that?
And what do you think is there any competition
coming up? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know.
I really hope.
You want to help out the show?
Help out yourself and get yourself a box of meat.
It's really, really good.
But your box is the best.
All right, Steph, did you read this article on the Disney stuff?
Yeah.
It's pretty crazy.
The Disney Star Wars and Marvel.
All that's all of what this guy's going to have to the end.
And it really did justify a lot of our comments about that stupid Super Bowl at.
And again, I watched.
No, that would be a highlight of the article.
I was like, damn.
I watched some of these videos of people going,
what are you talking about?
It's so much fun.
It's like, who cares if it's fun?
It's got to tell you what the movie is.
And it didn't,
and it's got people excited about it.
And it's like, and most,
and even the marketing seems like, oops.
So let's,
let's bring this story up and give a little more context of that.
So there are major challenges coming up here for the new head
of Disney as he's got to deal with Star Wars, Avatar, and Marvel.
There's a new feature piece over at Variety that has gone into the challenges that face the
new Disney CEO, Josh Tomorrow, as he takes the reins at the mouse house.
Tomorrow has landed in the driver's seat at the time when some of Disney's previously
unstoppable franchises.
Star Wars, Marvel are on shakeier ground than they were this time a decade ago.
Trade says that concerns have been raised about the Super Bowl spot for the Mandalorian and Grogo
an unconventional ad featuring the two characters
writing a Tontan pulled wagon.
Commercial reportedly failed to generate the kind of excitement
the marketing team is hoping to spark
and questions remain over the potential
of a streaming series turned film
beyond the diehard fan base.
However, they also add that those who have seen footage
from the Sean Levy directed Star Wars Starfighter
have been gushing.
They're praising Ryan Gosting's performance
and suggesting Livy has recaptured
the franchise of spirit of fun.
Steph, what have we been saying about this movie on this show?
What are we been saying about Starfighter?
How important that movie is?
Oh, yeah, that it's kind of everything.
It's everything.
What Star Wars looks like.
It's everything.
So it's, this has been a constant point on this show, how important it is for that movie to deliver and everything they're going to put into that.
Now, Avatar is a decision about its future and it still has been made.
The recent third film grossed $1.4 billion globally, nearly $1 billion less than the previous installment.
The cost of these movies is a major factor with one insider telling the outlet.
that if you make $1 billion on the next movie,
you still lose hundreds of millions.
As for Marvel,
while some suggest that the franchise future
will ride heavily on Avengers Doomsday.
Those in the film division believe the health of the MCU
does not hinge on an individual title.
Executives are reported,
please what they've seen for the film's release
and even rival studio heads predict
Doomsday will be the year's biggest earner.
All right, Steph, where do we start first?
You want to start with, let's start with Avatar.
Yeah, let's start with Avatar.
you and I are easily the biggest Avatar fans on this channel.
Yeah.
We love going to see these movies in the same way that fans love to go see scream in the theater or go see Jurassic Park or those things.
That's how we feel about this.
Totally.
You put them out.
I'm in there.
I'm in there.
I'm going to see it.
I bought my tickets like two months in advance.
I was excited.
I was like a little kid just waiting to watch.
I love going back to Pandora.
That being said.
I understand if they never make another one of these ever again.
Because of what they said in that article, the thing is so expensive and it costs so much money that when you make a, I mean, a billion dollars on it, you're going to lose money if you only make a billion.
And so that is something you've got to scratch your head because I've been talking about this recently, bringing up Jurassic Park of these other things.
When you look at a movie that does really, really well in the theater,
and the first one does $1.5 billion,
and then the next one does $1.2 million.
And then the third one does $900 million.
Well, it's trending that it's probably going to keep going down.
The question is, how much before you stop making a profit
because then that's where the gamble comes each time.
It's like the gambler at the table that's going,
oh, wait a minute, we can hit that next one and we can go back over
and we can do twice as much as we did in the last one.
Maybe we'll go back to those old glory numbers.
And with Avatar, the risk is too big and Cameron's heart just doesn't seem like
it was in it the same way it was in the first two.
As much as I'd love to see where this franchise goes,
I think to be safe, you walk off the court at this point.
Yeah, I'm, I'm conflicted because didn't, wait, didn't this one still make over a billion?
Just not two billion.
1.6 and it's still, and it needed to make just around 1.5, I think, to, to break even or something.
Right.
So it made, I think it made a little bit of money, like a little bit.
Right, right, right.
I thought you just said 900 million.
I was like, no, no, I'm no.
I'm just saying, I'm just giving me.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
Okay, I'm with you.
Yeah, I am conflicted because.
I want to live in Pandora.
I want to live in Pandora and I would see so many movies in Pandora.
And I just love this franchise and I don't know.
Like I just feel like there's some of us who like really love it and are like, you know,
there are parts about it that aren't perfect, you know?
Yeah.
But there just the overall feel it gives me when I leave the movies.
I'm just like, wow, that's what I go to the movies for.
And my whole family feels the same.
way. Interestingly enough, like there was like kind of a different range after the third movie.
We all loved it. My sister said that it might be her favorite movie of all time.
Like it just hit her emotion. We're like huge Nateri fans like die hard. Yeah. Yeah. So it just hit
us like really hard when you are so invested in a character. But my mom loved it. And she was like,
she thought that that was the end. And she's like, okay, I really believe in like,
movies not going past trilogies.
That was a great ending.
And I was like, oh, I don't think it is the ending.
She's like, oh, really?
So I do think that there's like...
It's a chance.
Yeah.
There's an argument to be made in both ways.
Yeah.
And I also was under the impression that when they were moving on to the second and third
installments, they had kind of given...
I know it costs a lot of money, obviously, to create from what they film to what they see.
But I thought that a lot of the cost was in the equipment.
So I thought it wasn't going to be as big of a hit as it is seemingly still.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the thing.
Look, and this is the thing that people still don't understand, right?
You like, I'll showcase this comment right here.
No one, for instance, walks away when the last one made a billion dollars.
What do you talk about?
If a movie costs, if a movie, if you're not making a budget, if you're not making a profit,
it doesn't matter if it costs for, if you make a movie for $200 million.
And the movie makes $200 million or maybe $300 and you just cover that in marketing.
It's like, ooh, if we do that again and it and the next one comes out and it makes less.
And the next time we're not going to break even.
We're going to lose money.
So they just make a billion dollars to make a profit.
They made a billion dollars and barely broke even.
Because the movie costs so much.
Because it costs so much.
Yeah.
It's in a completely different conversation.
than any other movie ever made before.
Nothing to do with no movie makes a billion dollars
and stops making movies.
There's nothing to do with that.
It's movies will stop making movies
if it looks like it's on a down
slow from, and making a profit.
Now there's very good possibility that they do make another one
and say, look, the next one,
the things are going to change a bit.
And we have a chance to get back to that too.
But are we going to take the risk?
And the answer is always, now I would have,
if Anthony would put something like,
it's doubtful that they're going to doubt in Cameron.
That's an argument that I'm not going to argue with him over on that one.
Because it's like if James Cameron walks into your office and says,
look, I've proven in the past that I've said I'll make this work.
I'll get you to two bill.
I green lighted that day if he says that to me.
He's earned that.
Yeah.
He's earned that.
Totally.
I agree.
I'm with you on that.
It's like there's multiple things that play.
Like they have Cameron involved.
that it's his baby.
He has like a lot of say in this industry.
Yeah.
We don't know how the next one will do.
It's not like the third one bombed at all.
Right.
It just is kind of like you have, I understand looking at it and being like, is this worth the investment?
Yes.
And it's like a serious conversation because you're talking about a movie that costs nearly a
billion dollars to make.
So look at Fast 9, right?
Mm-hmm.
So you would in the same conversation, if you said no movie is going to make $726 million on their last movie and then they walk away.
It cost so much money to make over $350 or whatever it did.
It didn't make money.
It lost money.
And so.
That was a big hit.
And they're making another one, but it hasn't been easy.
This movie came out in 2021.
And it's freaking five years later.
It still hasn't been another one because they're trying to cut budget down.
So it seven because seven hundred twenty six million dollars you make that and you go,
of course I'm going to make another one,
but you have to look at the budget.
And so I think that they might if you can make if you can make avatar for cheaper,
like if you can somehow make it for, you know, I don't know,
$200 million,
then you're going to then you're going to make a profit all day long even if the thing makes
$700 million,
$800 million.
So $1.5 billion and it's still not good enough?
I don't know about the risk.
It's such a big risk.
Yeah.
So if we go to switching now to Marvel,
Marvel's in the best shape out of the three of these things.
For sure.
Easily.
Because right now, look, yes, Marvel is in that spot
where we haven't been excited for Marvel for a little bit.
Marvel has, you got Daredevil Season 2,
which will get some people, you know,
apparently the Born Again season two is,
because there were so many cuts from the first one
and so many things they had to do from the first movie
that it was almost like a Frankenstein type things where they said.
This one is just going to be the thing that they were working on,
no edits, no changes as far as what the story was about
and having to repurpose anything.
It's just this is the story.
And you're going to have that.
And then whenever the Punisher thing drops,
I think it drops after Spider-Man,
but Spider-Man hits.
Spider-Man's going to be like,
oh, that's going to be that first pump,
of energy. And you're going to... Isn't the last
Spider-Man movie make a billion?
Over a billion? Yeah. Yeah. No Way
Home, I'm going to guess, made 1.5.
Let's see. No Way Home
Box Office. Maybe even more.
1.9.
Right. And then...
And then...
What's the Ryan Reynolds
one? Deadpool.
Deadpool. Deadpool.
Yeah.
Over a billion.
Spider-Man's going to crush.
Right.
It's going to cry.
And plus, you got the...
The Hulke, the Rage Hulk coming back.
You got the Punisher in there together.
Sadie Sink coming in to potentially play Gene Gray or Gwen Stacy or whoever.
And then it's, that leads and that's, that's the lead into Doomsday.
Right.
And I still think Doomsday's going to, and I agree with what they say,
Doomstay's going to be the biggest movie.
Not I, this is what I've said.
I think Doom's going to be the biggest movie of all time.
Really?
I think it's going to be the biggest movie of all time.
If it's good, it's going to be the biggest movie of all time.
Wow.
Ticket prices, all these other things.
And when they start moving IMAX into the January year,
it's going to start making more.
Because it's not going to have any,
there's no more IMAX screenings for Marvel in 2026.
So they're going to have,
if they have it,
they have in 20207 in the opening,
when there's no competition whatsoever,
I think it's going to,
I think it's going to crush.
If it's good,
if it stinks,
then I'm going to change my tune.
I was wrong.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But if,
regardless, even if it makes a lot of money,
and it's the biggest movie of the year.
You're going to have that movie,
which is going to crush.
You're going to have Spider-Man, which is going to crush.
And then next year, you're going to have Secret Wars.
And I don't know what else comes out for Marvel next year
besides Secret Wars.
But Marvel is in really good shape,
especially with the Rusters.
And that's going to then lead into the X-Men.
So if they stick to what they used to do and have their plan and have their way forward now and stop going off the little silly side stories and all those things and just trying to, you know, our shit doesn't stink.
We can do anything and everybody will watch.
I think that they're focused now.
So Marvel has a very good shot of getting back to normal.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's the question.
I don't think it's what in the same conversation as Star Wars where Marvel's like they're still doing.
well. Fantastic Four didn't do as well as they'd hope, but it still did really well in comparison
with the other superhero movies that came out that year. And it did decent, yeah, I think it did 500.
Let me see. First of, we'll see what the budget was. The budget on Fantastic Four, let me see,
hold on. You still there? I'm still here.
All right. Fastness for budget was 200 million. So it needed to make probably close to 500
to break even, right?
So let's see.
The box office for that was 521.
So it barely, so it barely broke even.
Yeah, yeah.
But it did good.
I feel like that was good enough.
But I, and then in the same year, you know, they had Deadpool Wolverine and then everyone's
liking Wonder Man and.
Well, Deadpool Wolverine was 2023.
Oh, it was.
Or it's 2024.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
But they've had some, it's not like they've had like all bad doom and gloom where like, you know, the fan base is super mixed.
Like a lot of people are liking some of the stuff that they're putting out.
The fan base.
So to just combat you a little bit with box office, it was kind of a bad year for them because they had the Captain America, Brave New World was the first one last year.
And that one costs more money than they really.
led on to believe because all the reshoots.
Right, right.
That lost money.
Yeah.
Then you had Thunderbolts, which people who saw it really liked it and it did great on
streaming.
It was a disappointment for box office.
It didn't do well.
And then Fantastic Four barely broke even.
So they didn't have a good 2025.
But what it did do would still show that people still cared enough because they're starting
to get some juice behind Doomsday minus Winston.
and Chris Carr.
Yeah, they both aren't excited.
No, I can't.
They both are telling me that they'd rather see
Supergirl in the theater
than Doomsday. I know, and I know a lot of people
want to see Supergirl, but over Doomsday, I can't, I can't
believe that. I just can't believe it.
Yeah.
It just looks, you know, it doesn't look, they haven't
shown anything to me that looks like, okay, I want to see
really where that goes. This is like, this is a,
this is basically a sequel to end game, this
movie. Right, right. And I,
Yeah, I'm really curious what they do with it.
And I think a lot of people feel that way.
But Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four did enough for me where I'm like,
okay, I really want to see Doomsday.
You know, it didn't like build bad faith, I think, for at least me.
And I'm sure that there's other fans who feel the same where I actually walked away being like,
oh, yeah, I really like these movies.
And I think that the question more so for Marvel is like,
not whether it can be good again, because I think it definitely is on.
its way. It's more so it's like, can it be as big as it was? And even if it's not as big,
it will still be, I mean, there's still a chance that it can be great and make a lot of profit and
make the fans happy at the same time. Whether or not it could be like end game level where like
everyone talked about it, that's like only time can tell. Well, I think that's one of the main
reasons that they're bringing back Downey and Chris Evans and everybody too to get the mainstream
audience going, oh, it's just a people who don't pay attention to this news all the time.
All they see is, oh, they're doing another one with that.
It's a sequel.
Oh, it's a sequel.
They're going to know that it's a sequel.
Yeah.
You know, so anyway, those two movies, those two franchises, Avatar will see.
It's still, they could take another shot.
We both agree that if the next one, if they do another one and it doesn't do well,
then that's probably, you know, that's the end of it.
but Marvel right now, yeah, we know what's going on.
We're in good shape.
Let's see how 2026 pans out before we see anything else.
But it looks like by the end of 2026, everybody's going to be pumped up for Marvel again.
Now, Star Wars.
Star Wars, again, this is just going to be repeating everything that we've been saying because it just is 100% factual at this point.
this is this movie mandorraine and grogo is you need to what we just talked me talking about box office
the whole strategy for this is you've got to get that fan base excited in order to get people in
that theater to get your budget of that 160 plus the marketing back so you can make you know
about 350 400 million dollars put it back in your bank and walk away that's what needs to happen
in order to do that,
you do have to get the fan base super excited for.
You've got to get people pumped about it.
And so far,
the way that they've been marketing,
they're in denial.
They're in denial.
And the fact,
that's why that Super Bowl commercial was run
in a way that this is 2015
and people are hyped up for the Force Awakens.
They're not.
That energy is not there.
The trailer that they showed a week,
later, they should have shown a snippet of that at Super Bowl and then said, go to our official
YouTube channel and watch the full trailer. That stupid thing that they did. It's like, okay, great.
You had a fun time watching it. And it was, oh, it was significant to the Super Bowl. You're
marketing a movie that no one knows about outside of the hardcore fan base. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And what I found most interesting about that ad is that I was under the
assumption and I think a lot of people were that
Mandalorian if not a lot of Star Wars
under kind of the Dave Faloni
is trying to get the younger audience
and that's like not with
shade I'm saying that I just think like that's kind of
what it just seemed like which is not a bad play
at all you need to get a younger audience
involved and then ideally you get the younger audience
but you keep the older audience and there's
everyone's happy but
They did an ad that played to very much to like
Bill Millennials and Gen X.
It was like playing to like the old or like Budweiser commercials.
And so like if you were Gen Z or Gen Alpha younger,
I would be like, what is this?
And it was during the Super Bowl.
So I'm like, I don't even know if they're watching it anyway.
But they wouldn't get it.
But they wouldn't get it.
And so I'm like, who was the ad for?
Well, I think that the way that you could counter that if you're the marketing team
and saying, well, they don't really need to get it.
As long as they see Grogu on the thing, we just want people to say,
oh, Grogu, Grogu's got a movie coming out.
Great.
Grogu's got a movie.
That's kind of the idea.
Yeah, but if you're Gen Z, they're like, you know, they're in their 20s.
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
But look, the problem with Star Wars right now is,
Star Wars needs to be cool again.
It's not cool.
Yeah.
It's just not, it's like when Mandalorian walks in to,
there's a shot from like the,
the one that they showed at celebration.
And he's taken out.
like old empire dudes.
I'm like, that's, that's cool.
Like the stuff that they showed from the first and second season,
like that kind of shit.
You need that.
You got to have that cool Star Wars feel again and get away from the cutesy shit.
You can have it in the movie,
but get away from that shit because you want to get everybody into the theater.
And that's why I've said it and I stand by it.
Starfighter is the, right now, the future of this franchise because everything is riding on that movie.
Mandalorian can make, it can make $200 million.
and bomb. Star Wars will still have life in it to where it can keep going under the current plan.
It can, if it makes $75 this movie, you can still go forward with your plan.
If Starfighter fails, you have to rethink your entire plan.
You've got to change everything.
You've got to say, okay, we can't, clearly we can't do these, this Kinberg trilogy and go into this.
we've got to do something else because what we're doing now isn't working.
Starfighter works.
Any new seeds that you plant in this movie, you can start to say now, okay, we had a movie
star Ryan Gosling, the guy who did Deadpool and Wolverine just made us another, you know,
another buttload of money.
People are excited and feel like it's Star Wars again.
That is what you can do with Starfighter.
If you add all the little special sauce of what Star Wars does,
And I think that you've got a good possibility to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
I think that it looks really promising the earlier reviews look promising too.
Yeah.
And so I'm rooting for that movie because I'm like just, you know, get new characters and shake it up and see what works.
And hopefully it's that.
I'm trying to see what the budget is in that movie too.
Oh, yeah.
No budget yet, but I bet you it's in the $2.50 range.
Yeah.
And that's an okay budget to spend on that particular movie because that that's going to get the hype with people.
Like the regular audience member who doesn't know what this movie is or what it is when that first trailer hits and you're like, oh, Star Wars.
Oh, Ryan Gosling's in a Star Wars movie.
And then, oh, that was kind of interesting.
Oh, there's a lightsaber in it.
Oh, okay.
This is, oh, this is.
It, you got to have that.
Now, I think, and I don't understand why they did this,
I thought it was the stupidest thing,
the two stupid things that they did to try to detach themselves
of what Star Wars used to be.
They took away the opening crawl, which is one thing,
which they never should have gotten rid of.
The show always kept the crawl because it's just the essence of what Star Wars is,
but that's not as important as this need to move past the classical John Williams themes, right?
Now, you should have your own score and do kind of what Rogue One did and other things
and you should have your own feel and flavor to it.
But Kevin Kiner did it best in the Asoka series.
Kevin Kiner did it the best in Rebels.
Kevin Kiner did it the best in Clone Wars.
He took his own score, his own things,
and he moved it together and took a lot of those classic themes.
So there were times when you would hear the Jedi theme
or even the Darth Vader theme
or the certain themes from the classic Star Wars thing
to make you feel, oh yeah, that's right, I'm here.
Plus you're giving me new music.
that's the kind of thing that they need to do.
Obi-Wan dropped the ball completely with the music.
Like that show was screaming for that type of feel.
When Obi-1 goes to,
Kevin Smet's made a fan edit of it,
and a couple of people did too,
but he made a brilliant one where the guy is,
when Obi-Wan has Leia and he's about to drive,
and he uses the force, and the force theme kicks in.
And the feels and the goosebumps, like, yeah, okay,
he's accepting it.
again, you can use the themes of Star Wars and not and still feel fresh.
So bring the music back.
Give us some new music, but bring it back.
They won't.
But they're trying to make a stance.
It's so stupid.
Yeah, that's weird.
It's like you have the best music.
Just stick with it.
And it like gets people in a certain mode.
Yeah, it gets you in the mood.
Get you in the Star Wars mood.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's like a no-brainer to me too.
The Knights of the Republic, that game is brilliant, right?
Yeah.
There are many new themes in that game.
A lot of old themes, too.
And it was thousands of years ago.
It combines it.
It just puts you in the mood.
It makes you feel like you're in Star Wars.
And I think that getting rid of that music was one of the biggest errors that they made.
It's like, you know, you can combine it.
So I do think that Starfighter will be a major, major test for them.
But I do think that it'll be success.
I think it's going to win.
I do too.
Yeah, I think it's going to make a lot of money.
I think it's going to be successful.
And I think it's going to start to give them a little bit more confidence.
And it'll probably give, you know, the new CEO some more confidence too.
Yeah.
Of the direction.
But they're going to have to, like, I still think, you know, Mandalorian and Grogu,
what did we say?
what did you think what we talked about the numbers what do you think the final number on that movie's
going to be oh i forget what i said maybe like you can do how you feel now today um like
maybe like 600 make 600 i would be very happy if i was disney yeah uh 600 is uh i think that's a reach
um i don't think it's i don't think it's not realistic i just think it's right because it fantastic
four made yeah five 20 yeah
And Star Wars.
Yeah, but this is, this is not a star, this is like, this is a based off, like you said in an article.
If you're going to lose a lot of people who are going, I didn't watch that show.
So I don't know, I don't know what that is.
You're also going to gain a lot of people who are like, it's a Star Wars movie.
I don't really, I'm sure I can catch up.
I don't know if Star Wars is there anymore.
I don't think that, I don't think it's, I don't think it's as, I think there's some people.
I think some people, I don't think it's as, as, you know, it doesn't feel like an event anymore.
It used to feel like Star Wars coming at events, let's go.
It's a Star Wars movie.
So I'm going to say, I don't know what, I've changed my number a bunch of times,
but I'm going to say right now, I'm going to go $540,000 total, which is a win.
Still, still a win for, you know, as far as box office goes.
Not as far as brand goes, but as far as box office goes.
But we'll see.
We'll see.
What do you guys make of it?
What do you think about the new challenges for the new Disney CEO?
do you agree with us, disagree with us?
How do you feel they are with Star Wars right now?
Is Avatar going to see another one?
And is Marvel in good shape?
Or are we giving them too much credit right now?
Put your thoughts in there.
Let us know.
Okay.
So before we move on to the questions today,
I got to bring this one up, man,
because this was a very, very interesting topic in general today.
it looks like Warner Brothers Discovery, which has been, right now they potentially are now opening the idea to Paramount, which is interesting.
We'll get into that in just a bit.
They released their profits or, I guess loss, their fourth quarter financials rather.
And man, look at this number.
This is crazy.
it makes sense.
So he was like, sell, sell.
Winter Brothers Discovery lost
$252 million
in the quarter that everyone decided
that they wanted to buy it.
It's like, hey, you like my shiny car?
He's got no engine.
So,
Tony Maglio over at the Hollywood Reporter,
writes,
the bell of the ball shares its fourth quarter
financials.
David Zasloff
seen there, okay,
Warner Brothers
Discovery reported its fourth quarter, 2025 results on Thursday morning posting total revenue
of 9.46 billion and 131.6 million global streaming subscribers. Winter Brothers lost 252 million
in Q4, adjusted EBITA earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization was
$2.2 billion. Overall revenue was down 6% from the fourth quarter last year, though the number
ought to satisfy, hey, where are you going? Get back here.
Ought to satisfy Wall Street from expectation's point of view, but no one likes an
unprofitable company. Why do you keep doing that to me? Seeming streaming subs rose by
3.5 million from October through December. Advertising revenues dropped 9%, with a loss of the
NBA on Turner costing WBD, about half of that. This company studio revenues decreased 13%
versus the comparable quarter in 2024, mostly due to lower content sales, lower
global linear networks revenue dropped 12%.
In the prior quarter, Warner Brothers posted a net loss of $148 million on a revenue of $9 billion.
Everything was different back then. Netflix buying Warner Brothers was not a public thing,
and there were only initial reports of Paramount's interest.
In the summer, Paramount was still in the process of transforming into Paramount Skydance.
In December, Warner Brothers accepted a proposal to be acquired by Netflix for $83 billion.
The agreement was to wait for Warner Brothers to split off and spin-off discovery
and for Netflix to take the WB Studios
and streaming business and HBO.
Paramount is not letting Winter Brothers go.
Following multiple rounds of sweeteners,
it seems Paramount may now be in the driver's seat
and Netflix is playing defense.
Despite the dealer remains in place.
Paramount wants the whole thing.
Winter Brothers and Discovery willing to play a premium.
The split and spin,
which would also send the Turner assets
into a Discovery Global standalone company,
remains on track as the boards of directors
and shareholders sort this mess out.
Zazloff would run,
Warner Brothers and his current CFO Gunner gets if they get to discovery.
If Netflix is indeed the boss, there is a standalone discovery.
In a letter to the shareholders, he said we will not be answering any questions on this topic during our earnings call.
Okay, so that might add some weight to the other thing I want to bring up here.
Because I'm going to stop predicting this one.
I'm always, I'm decent at certain box office prediction.
and other things.
I have been a complete bust when it has come to this,
when it's come to this story.
I was convinced there was no world where Netflix was serious about buying this thing.
There was no way it was going to happen.
Paramount would get it.
And then they announced Netflix is getting it.
So I was like, oh, I'm wrong.
And then I said, okay, yeah, there's a new deal in place
and Paramount's trying so hard, but it's over.
There's no world where they're going to even get close to doing this again.
And so Netflix is not going to be.
Netflix is fine.
And it looks like now they're thinking about it.
So what the hell do I know?
Here's a follow-up to that.
Winter Brothers apparently is warming to the Paramount new offer,
which is crazy to me.
It appears to fight for Discovery took a turn
after months of failed attempts to woo the company.
David Ellison has finally made a strong enough offer
that Warner Brothers Discovery has announced
that it could become a company superior proposal.
The new offer has seen.
Paramount Skydats proposing a purchase price of $31 a share in cash plus a
ticket a daily ticketing fee of 25 cents per quarter beginning after September 30th
it's also a 7 billion termination fee payable by paramount if regulatory Roblox stop the
transaction and payment by paramount of the existing 2.8 billion termination fee
between Warner Brothers Discovery and Netflix there are also other obligations and clauses
beneficial for Warner Brothers Discovery.
one of those has made it clear that they not yet determine whether the revised proposal is superior to the Netflix merger,
but today's statement means that they can engage further determine if they can come to an agreement.
If the board determines it is a superior proposal, the Netflix has four business days to negotiate,
propose any revisions to its own transaction.
At present, the board continues to recommend in favor of the Netflix transition transaction and is not withdrawing or modifying its recommendation.
This is kind of nuts that I still don't understand how that works.
I always think that it's kind of shady.
It's like, hey, if you agree to a deal with me and we shake hands on it, that's the deal.
Right.
And I don't care anybody comes in anymore.
You agreed.
I offered.
You agreed.
That's it.
I don't care if anybody else comes in now.
That was what the negotiation part of it was.
The negotiation was, okay, they're going to say this.
I presented my offer.
We're final, right?
We're final.
Oh, but now they came back.
back and offered more. You can't do that.
But apparently you can.
Yeah, I think the whole thing's kind of crazy.
I'm with you. I'm like, I don't know what's going to happen.
I'm fully rooting against Paramount.
And I wish that like, honestly, I wish this wasn't a conversation in general.
Like, I'm so sick of these merging companies.
If anything, though, for multiple reasons personally, I'd rather it be Netflix if it has to be
anyone, but also just for the landscape of how I view WB, I think that it fits way more in
with Netflix. And Paramount, I feel like would be getting a major win if they got WB, where Netflix
is like, it's so good on its own. Like I watch Netflix the most out of all of them now.
They have great originals. They get, they have all the animas. They have access to. There's just like a lot of
promise within Netflix and their their movies are good like I love Netflix but I and I think that
WB just fits a little bit more in terms of like it's content and it won't be I feel like kind of
like downing itself to be in the parent I don't know but also I feel like I just don't like
the ownership of Paramount so I have like personal vendetta right right which is I mean it's there's
a lot to be said there with all that, right? The first part, as far as the, after reading that first
part of that article, you understand why you say, I don't like those merging companies. After hearing
those financials, you understand why they're doing what they're doing. They're just not making
money. They're losing money. They're losing money every quarter. Which is crazy. I didn't realize
how much money they lost. I mean, in each quarter, they keep losing. They're making great movies.
They had a tremendous year, and they still lost money last quarter. Right.
tremendous year with sinners and
Minecraft and everything and they still
lost money and it's wild
it's crazy and so with all that
because there's just so much more to the engine
than just the movies right so
they're going to sell it now
to counter your argument a little bit
if you knock out because if Netflix gets it
and I first of all I would prefer Netflix
to get it myself
but if Netflix gets it
Paramount's going to not really be
competition it's really
really only going to be
Netflix and Disney
Apple and Amazon sure they'll have movies and stuff that come out
but the two big ones will be
Netflix and Disney now
some people are saying Netflix is going to kill the theater
business everything too I think they're kind of showing
at least you know maybe it's a ruse but for now they're showing
we're playing with the theaters I mean they did
they release stranger things for the finale they're releasing
one piece um
they had K-pop in a theater they released K-pop
they're going to, Ted Sarandos has made it clear that they're going to do windows for these movies, depending on performance and stuff too.
They are aware of how they're going to run it.
So it seems like they aren't going to kill the theatrical.
It seems like they want to stick with it.
How long that goes?
And if it's a ruse, I don't know.
I don't think it is, but who knows?
Paramount getting it would power them up to where it would be Paramount versus Netflix versus Disney.
There would be, so your concern of,
take out the leadership side of who's over there,
your concern of all these companies
kind of just eating themselves into one,
Paramount becomes stronger,
and then there's more,
there's more competition out there.
Because Paramount will be the theatrical powerhouse
that they always were,
even more so now with the Warner Brothers Library with it.
So, and they'll take everything with it,
except just those movies.
So that's why I always thought they were going to get it,
because they wanted everything.
I always thought that's why Netflix only wants bits and pieces of it.
Paramount wants the whole kit and caboodle.
And now maybe the plan was always make Netflix think that they had it
until Paramount would come back with the superior offer.
I don't know.
Yeah, yeah.
But it also just like, I feel like it's kind of a continuing thing of our generation
where it's like both bad.
it's not like great choices for various reasons and then you're kind of left of deciding like what's the lesser of the bad for it like okay so if paramount gets in it's like more you know more companies have more say then it's like okay but what are they going to do in terms of their content like are they going to diminish their content based on their political views or is it going to stay entertainment free right right
That's a good question.
And I've,
I've completely left Universal out of the,
out of the equation, too.
Right.
Forget.
Like, you know,
they have,
I guess they have Jurassic Park.
Um, they have,
I mean,
Universal Studios and everything too.
And they've got,
they've got quite a few things too.
So Universal still is still in the mix too.
Um,
but either way,
either way,
it's going to be interesting.
I don't know.
I'm not going to make predictions anymore because I don't know what's going to happen.
Right.
It's so weird.
I really don't.
I really don't.
Um,
Okay, what do you guys think?
Do you think that Paramount's going to get it?
Is this going to be one of the biggest kind of crazy stories?
Or what?
Netflix is just going to get it, and we were all right in the first place.
Put your thoughts in there.
Let us know.
All right, Steph, now it's that moment of time.
Can you do what you do?
Come back here and take out Roxy and Mike.
He needs to get to 106 to tie, 107 to be.
in the lead. Let's get Steph Sabraraa there. Can we do it? Nathan Drake says, what were the origins of
box office breakdown? I love that show. Also, why wasn't Sarah Stratton on the Shmo's show more?
Okay, so box office breakdown was a show? I love Sarah Stratton. Totally. So do you, I don't know how much
you know, do you know the origin of popcorn talk? No, a little bit because I was at after Buzz, but not.
What's, what is your, I want to know what you think of the origin was. And I'll tell, and I'll tell you
if you're on board or not. Oh, I have no idea. I just joined. I just joined.
after buzz and there was three different networks within afterbus.
So when,
popcorn talk. So when Mark and I joined, we were,
um, we used Kevin and Maria's studio. They're very kind to let us use the studio and they let us go
live and we put it on our channel and it wasn't,
it wasn't part of after buzz. We just, they just let us record there. And we had to,
you know, we formed a network with Kevin and that was the popcorn talk network. And so
we met over at Kevin's, uh,
house and we were going over the shows that we were going to do.
And I presented a bunch.
And I was doing, I was doing Jedi Council at the time.
And I said, we should do a Star Wars show.
I said, I can't host it because I'm hosting a show over at, you know, at AMC right now.
I just, I just, I'm not able to do a Star Wars show.
And I don't, mind this Shamos.
No, I don't really know how many of these I could really host.
But I think we should do a, we should do that.
We should not just do a comic book show.
we should do a Marvel show and a D. She show.
We should do a Marvel News and we should do a D.C.
News. So we should find the right host for it.
I met with Roxy, Mike and Johnny LaCosto at a Starbucks.
And I said, I think you guys would be great.
I put the, I put the host, the first teams I put together on all those shows.
They put them together, Matt Key for Marvel Movie News.
I think they went out and found Koi.
I didn't know Koi at the time.
And then it was, what was the other one?
Oh, shit, the one with Alicia and Scott profiles.
Profiles was one.
Scott Mance.
And we did that show.
Movie fights actually started on, I think,
Popcorn Talk for a little bit too,
until they moved it back over to screen junkies.
And then there was, I'm trying to think the other ones that we did.
There were quite a few.
But Box Office breakdown came because I wanted,
because I was taking Schmo's personality.
Oh, top 10 was another one that we were going to do.
And we didn't do it on Pop.
for him because instead we moved it over to the Schmo's thing instead and that's why because we met
Nost it was going to be the original cast of top 10 was going to be on the popcorn talk network and it was
going to be Matt Nose, Roka and Allison Heslip. That was the original cast and Allison was going to be
the lead host and then it just wouldn't work with Allison's schedule and everything too. She couldn't do it.
So I was like, you know what, let's just move that over and we did it. And then box office breakdown came
about because I wanted to put JTE and Finstock.
They had such a great chemistry and they were characters on the show.
But I was like, I don't know if they're going to be able to host it on their own.
And then Sarah, I knew from, from, you know, the afterbuzz stuff.
And I was like, yeah.
And she had come on to the Schmo show a few times.
And I was like, let's let's get you on and be a host.
And she did and she worked well with them.
As far as her, why she was on Schmo's, her schedule.
I tried to get her on millions of times.
And I was going to make her a big part of the Schmode as a manager.
She was going to be like our Miss Elizabeth.
But, and we had a major plans for Sarah Stratton, and we talked for a while.
Sarah was going to be one of the biggest managers in the Shmodeown,
but her schedule was just not, was not able to do it.
So that's why.
So there's a little, uh, lore.
There's a little lore for you.
All right, Michael D.
So did Mike fumble the bag with Penny interview?
Are you going to keep us in suspense?
It wasn't as much of a fumble.
It was just, it was like, I'm telling you, it made me feel.
like the way that I would prepare
if I was preparing if you guys told me
that I had gotten an interview with Julia Roberts
and I'm like okay am I gonna
I gotta be I gotta make sure
I got everything on my ducks in a row
and then I'm like I'm although I think
I'd be able to ask questions
Mike was like
but in that picture I showed though
he looks he's he's kind of
where is he he's he seems
like he's he's on his game
right there but he's
but he really was just
you know he was he he was like a kid in the candy shop he really was um like how there's the bike
with the toilet paper oh was that was that was that that one see it the corner oh yeah yeah yeah yeah
we got to name that thing um mr and d fanatic let's do it uh shout out to pld and sol being in the
discord hangout session yesterday great conversation and damn he made us actually l-o l-ohle so i got my
being salt's the best all's lyricist all's lyric
Did, did, how many, how many people are in that Discord right now?
We're still trying to get to 200, right?
Let's get to 200.
Let's do it.
I think they said there was just a few away.
From 200?
At the beginning of the stream, yeah.
All right, let's see.
Okay, next one.
Johnny Patrice, I've been waiting for the 90s X-Men to get some love in the big screen
since I saw Cyclops in the blue and yellow.
It has me hopeful.
Yeah, I.
I think they're going to start to really, I mean,
this is Kevin Feigey's real first shot at the X-Men.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think so many of us are excited for the X-Men.
Yeah.
Okay, next one, Johnny.
Besides Carrying and Cross, who have you met through Matt Sarah?
Oh, man.
I mean, I had a chance.
I mean, went through virtual and everything, too.
I mean, Frank Meir, GSP, Kendall Grove.
Let's see.
So many people.
He's just had Arrigo Gracie on there, which is awesome.
Alequinta, who else?
There's so many people that I've met through him since we started.
Oh, Dean Thomas, who I love.
Dean's awesome.
Dean's awesome.
What a cool dude he is.
Oh, Keith Jardine?
And Keith Jardine on because of Matt.
I know I'm missing more people, but there's tons.
There's tons of people that I've met through Matt.
And it's been pretty great.
Okay, let's see.
Wiley, do you like the Eagles, the band?
I was never a massive Eagles guy.
You, stuff?
Yeah, my dad liked the Eagles, so I like the Eagles.
D. Johnson, support.
Thank you, Greeney.
Thank you.
I know who Derek is.
Johnny Patricea, please, please, please have Penny on as a regular.
Jeez, guys.
Let's see how the interview does.
Right, right, right.
If the interview does really well, and that's not for me.
That's not for me saying that's more of saying if the interview does really well and you guys watch the clips on the clips channel and you guys watch the interview and you're commenting and you're liking and everything too.
And the interview does really well.
Then I send it back to her people going, hey, they really liked her.
We'd love for her to come on and do a five minute bit on the show about, you know, her picks for movies that she's seen.
so but I'm not going to be able to do that unless you guys watch the interview so please watch the interview Christian unpronounceable five more people until 200 in the discord did they hit 200 a 195 still come on guys
five of you just join the discord it's ready to put the link in the description guys for it let's do it 30 step building 30 nice
Jeremy Aldridge
I want to start an MCU watch
with y'all but notice the playlist is missing
a few first two caps and a few more
where could I find those first two caps?
Oh
Luke or
PLD can you guys just add
those to the playlist
because we did them
you might just want to search
with it but we should put it in the playlist
and Luke
Luke will probably if Luke hears it
he can he can fix that pretty fast
Luke we just got to put the first two caps in a few more
Can you tell us which ones are missing?
Because they all should be in there.
Because we had a problem, even with this show, Luke puts all the information and puts everything
in there and PLD goes in there.
And I know that it gets lost sometimes.
And I just said, we just got to make sure that each video is in a playlist because I know
so many people find things from playlist.
And sometimes in the beginning when we started doing this, not as much anymore.
We forgot to put certain things in playlist.
But Luke's adding the cat movies right now.
But if there are other ones that are missing, let us know which ones so we can add them.
Greeny from Oz, disappointed about Mike flaking out.
Mike didn't flake out.
He said he's plenty of content research.
He said he had that covered or wrapped.
No, he didn't, he didn't, he definitely didn't flake out.
He definitely didn't flake out.
ZB 73. Is there a role for Penny in the pilot now?
Not in the pilot.
Not in the pilot.
We asked her about mainstream acting.
Her answer was crazy as far as like why,
because she said he was interested in it,
but why she feels like she wouldn't be able to do it.
And I'll wait.
I'll let you guys.
We couldn't believe.
I thought the answer.
I was like,
I said,
there's no way.
But I'll wait.
But the pilot,
no,
but this is why it's so hard.
I wanted to go into a series because
you could see my character interviewing an adult film actress,
right?
Yeah,
for sure.
For sure.
For sure.
And even if not,
something you could write for her.
She's, she's, I mean, she's a very different, different perspective than I think when you listen to her.
I think that you would think a lot differently of what your expectation is from other adult film stars, at least in my opinion.
I'm curious to what other people think.
Johnny Patrice.
Has Steph found out what she's having?
Oh.
Oh, yeah.
I'm having a girl.
Hell yeah.
So excited.
I would have been happy either way, but like I'm excited.
I just am excited that I get to be excited about my girl time first.
Me too.
I'm excited to, to hear all about her.
So it would be great.
She's going to be sassy.
Yeah, she already is.
I'm sure.
Greenie from Oz.
Keene as on your TV show.
Okay, all the best with you.
Thank you, man.
Yeah, like we, like I said, we've got this call on Tuesday, which again, after this
Tuesday, I won't be, I'm going to try to make sure.
that they're not scheduled on that Tuesday
and I ask you guys just bear with me because there's going to be a couple
shows that I'm going to have to miss but it's going to be worth it
so I can get this campaign out to you all
and then when we do announce everybody who's involved
that's going to be like a very exciting day for me
so um sick judge I'll always go
but wow the last few reveals each thing's about scream
oh okay uh Nathan Drake
did Mike give her any titles of his favorite movies with her
no he didn't give titles but
The beginning is incredible of the interview.
I can't wait.
The beginning is incredible.
This whole saga actually got accomplished fairly quickly.
It did.
It has been very fun.
It did.
And we talked about how that all came to be.
And this is why I always tell people how, as much as I hate social media, it's very powerful.
And I said, if we're talking about certain people and you guys tweet out at them, shit happens.
It's what used to happen during Schmo's stuff all the time.
We did a tweet a celebrity thing.
I mean, even during Collider, people were tweeting at Freddie Prince Jr.
He said, stop tweeting me.
I'll do the show.
And that's how it became friends of Freddie.
So there are like, you know, as we, if you do that and you use the social to say, hey, so and so we'd love for you to go on the show and talk to so.
It just shows an interest in it.
And it goes, what is this?
Because there's so much shit out there.
There's so much content.
She made a great point about that, by the way.
You know how we talk about how the movie.
space is is oversaturated like yeah and like it's you someone just mentioned earlier if you do like a
star war show today the chances of it being found are very slim right think about how much
porn there is on on the internet right and how like it because we asked about like the awards
and stuff and like i was curious if it really does like mean something in the same way that like
the Oscars do and our answer was it's like with everything that's out of
there in the fact that you can get recognized, whatever profession it is, with how much content
there is for that business.
It's, it's, it, it, what we, the movie space pales in comparison, how much stuff of there,
of the internet is out there. So it made it was a really good point. I'm saying it was very,
it was very informative. It really was. Yeah, that's so true. Armada. So you're telling me Mike
didn't go full lipton. No, he definitely didn't. James Lipton, no. Do you talk about only fans?
She talks about it briefly.
Okay. Because I'm curious if she's doing both.
So you'll see the answer to that.
Greenie from Oz, don't forget to channel your interject, Nicholson and Mel Gibson
when you're acting in front of your TV showmate.
Can't go wrong there.
I don't think my character has that type of energy.
But there's definitely there's definitely inspirations from other people that I'll be taking for sure.
Johnny Patricea, would Matt Sarah react to Mankind versus Undertaker?
Hell in a cell match with you. That's hilarious.
I know he's not really into it, but that would be interesting.
It's a great suggestion.
It's a great suggestion.
The full match is it.
I can find out where it's available.
That would be hilarious to watch that with him.
Yeah, because he respects, you know, he's doing, he's doing Stephanie McMahon's podcast soon.
Oh, cool.
We were supposed to go during this blizzard, but obviously that didn't happen.
So we were scheduled for sometime in March.
But he respects it.
He just,
he's just not into it.
That's up Brandon.
That Mandeloreen and Grogo Super Bowl didn't sit well with my spirit.
I don't understand why they honestly thought,
hey,
we should do this because they don't understand the time period they're in.
And I'm telling you,
people say,
oh, it's not Flonny.
It's the marketing team.
And too,
of course the marketing team is the one to have suggestions.
He's got a major saying it.
He lives in a world where he thinks Star Wars is as relevant as it was 10 years ago.
It's not.
he needs to wake up.
And that's why they did an ad like that.
Oh, we don't need to show a trailer right now.
Everybody's excited.
It's Star Wars.
Everyone's going to see it.
No, they're not.
And if you piss people off with that stupid ad,
you're going to hurt it even more.
And that's what they did.
GoPowell just saw it confirmed that Sadie Sink will be Gene Gray.
Confirmed?
I saw a report, but I don't know that's confirmed.
Can you give me a, let's say, let's see if that's going to look.
Sadie Sink confirmed?
as Jean Grey.
No, it's all rumors.
I don't see it confirmed.
Cryptic forces, no.
No, reportedly, rumors, rumors, rumors.
I don't see any confirmed.
So, no, no confirmed yet,
unless you see an article that combats that,
but I don't see any confirmation on that.
GoPala follows it up.
Has Cameron made anything other than Avatar
in the last 30 years?
Well, when was, when was Tit?
Titanic.
Titanic was 90.
Yes, Titanic was 96, about 30 years ago, right?
That's crazy.
97.
So he did, yeah, he did the last one before that was, it was Titanic.
Then he was going under sea looking at the real Titanic for like 15 years.
And then he made Avatar.
Yeah.
Greenie from Oz.
Can't get over the hard state of WWE nowadays.
The amount of wasted talent, L.A. Knight, Finn,
Baylor, Drew Mack at this point, I could book better than Triple H.
Yeah, look, I can't speak as educated about it anymore like I used to because I've bailed on it since that stupid ESPN deal.
Since that ESPN deal happened and they make me pay extra now to find the pay per views or find the PLEs.
I just, I'm just not, I don't have the patience to look for it.
And I tried signing up once.
So yeah, if you pay an extra six bucks, like, nah, I'm good.
I'm all right.
So I don't really know enough about it to even say what all I hear is people are just not happy right now with the product.
R. L. Jensen, Christian, were you able to tell Penny how her name came about in the show?
I'm a new member.
Love to all looking good stuff.
Yeah, I did.
I did mention her.
I told her up top.
Like we were, because we were talking about, you know, in the topic, how all these names just started coming up when Mike and I started discussing the adult film industry and how everybody started throwing names.
And I said the name that kept appearing the most in the chat was was Penny Barber.
and then I told her, I told her that for sure.
Bobo Baggins.
I feel validated after that Star Wars article.
Feeling validated after that Star Wars article.
I feel validated after that Star Wars article feel that.
Did you just say it?
It's like that scene in Goodfellas.
I'm going to go get the papers.
Go get the papers.
So I, yeah, me too.
Because we've been saying it, right?
It's like this goes back to my point where the two sides of things.
I saw so many videos, Steph, of the Everybody Loves Star Wars crew that's like,
what are you talking about?
This is so much fun.
It was the best.
It's like, no, come on.
You're okay.
You can be a Yankees fan and say,
ah, they shouldn't have started that guy at first base.
Drop the ball.
Right.
It's okay to do that.
But you got both sides of it, you know, and then you know, everybody that hates it,
they hate Star Wars is going to hate it anyway.
But it's okay in the middle to say it wasn't good.
It made no sense for what it did.
So so many people.
It was fun.
It was fun.
So much fun.
Shut up.
Edit the movies.
Mike, Mommy Kalanowski,
can't wait for the penny bar of it.
That's my favorite.
That's my favorite moment of the entire thing.
That will be legendary.
That's my favorite moment of the whole thing.
And the way that she does it,
and the way he,
it's like,
it's like she does a spell on him.
Because he doesn't,
he doesn't hesitate.
He doesn't hesitate.
Yes, ma'am.
No, Mommy.
He called her.
He called her mommy,
except it's hilarious.
Mike Torres,
Christian,
you following Punch the Monkey Saga?
No idea what that is.
You know what that is?
Of Christian,
this has been my life.
I have no idea what that is.
I wait until like a 20 minute.
Essentially,
there's a monkey named Punch.
He's at a zoo in Japan.
Punch or punch?
Punch.
His name is Punch.
He's a baby monkey.
At birth, his mother disowned him.
Oh.
And was like,
I don't cling.
you. And since then, Punch has had a horrible time at this zoo and other monkeys have bullied him and he just like can't find his way in. It's like been the most heartbreaking thing on the internet. Like people like me are like, like, I'm going to get my flight. I'm going to go in high style and steal punch. He deserves better. And all that the zoo has given him is a stuffed orangutting, which Punch now is like, that's his only friend. And he'll like literally sit. And he'll like literally sit. And he's,
him next to himself and stare at him and have conversations and drag him with him.
But as of recently, there's been a positive turn.
Some monkeys are starting to claim him and play with him.
So fingers crossed.
He's getting camera time now.
The monkey is right.
They're like,
this is a celebrity.
Yeah,
yeah.
Interesting.
No,
I never heard about that until three.
He has a friend now.
Three seconds ago.
Seattle K.
Support for Steph.
There you go.
Steph at 37.
Come on,
guys.
Let's get her to that one.
She needs 70 more to,
to tie.
70 more.
No, no, 70 more to be in the lead.
Excuse me.
Track stars.
Speaking of Netflix, Steph, will you be reviewing Bridgetton season four part two since it got released today?
And there's some support.
Yes.
Hell yeah.
But I'm just waiting until Sunday.
So Sunday on my stream, I'm going to do spoiler talk with everyone.
So I gave everyone a warning.
Yeah.
Strap in, get caught up.
There you go.
All right.
Let's see.
Next one.
After that, right now again, currently sits at 38.
next one. Orca, 447, I think predicting which will be the biggest movie of the year is not as easy
before. I don't think anyone saw Barbie Inside Out 2 and Zootopia 2 being the biggest films of the last
three years. I'm going to argue against the Inside Out 2 and Zootopia 2. I think you can easily,
anytime those types of movies, those sequels, you could put it in contention where it could be
one of the biggest movies of the year. And at one point I said, I think that, you know,
Zutopia 2 will beat Avatar. If someone said I was crazy.
but Barbie doing what it did against, you know,
Oppenheimer and everything too, that was definitely a surprise
of how well that that movie did and how much money it made for sure.
I think you're right there.
But I don't know if it's,
I still think you,
if you're having those conversations with Utopia 2 and Inside Out 2 are coming out,
you'll put them in contention.
So let's go through this stuff.
Let's go through the movies that are coming out, right?
and you'll tell me
out of the movies I list,
what do you think has a shot
to be the biggest movie of the year, right?
So I'm going to go away from Scream 7.
We're going to go into,
I'll mention the bride.
If anything stands out,
I just want you to pick three
out of the ones that I mention,
I want you pick three.
And if you think those three have contention
of being the biggest of the year.
If you pick five,
you pick five,
but I'm going to mention all of them,
okay?
Okay.
The ones that I think,
you know,
are in the conversation or maybe could do a lot of money,
even like Project Hail Mary,
Super Mario Brothers,
the Mummy.
So I'm picking my top three.
You can pick three to five.
Okay, okay.
Michael.
Devil Wears Prada 2, Mortal Kombat 2.
What do you think of that trailer really quickly?
I like that.
I thought it was fun too.
Yeah. So I don't know if it's going to be any good, but I
I'm not sure. Yeah, we'll see.
Mandelorian and Grogu. Right.
Masters of the Universe. Disclosure Day. Scary movie 6.
Toy Story 5. Supergirl.
Minions and Monsters.
Moana. The Odyssey.
Spider-Man.
Super Troopers 3. Paw Patrol.
Airbud returns.
Coyote versus Acme
Let's say
Practical Magic 2
Let's see
Digger
Street Fighter
Clayface
Dr. Seuss Cat in a hat
Godzilla minus zero
Hunger Games
Focker-in-law
Violent Night 2
Jumanji 3
Avengers Doomsday
So any
Any of those that I said
That stand out like
Okay I think those can be in contention
immediately Super Mario
Yes
Um
Dumes Day
Agreed
Uh
Godzilla always does pretty good
But because it's the minus
franchise and not like the big monster
Kongverse Godzilla.
I don't know.
I'm really excited about it.
Me too.
I am too.
But like I'm yeah.
So not sure just has that big name,
the Godzilla and has the worldwide.
viewership going on.
Probably, I think
Devil Wears Prada or Disclosure have a good
chance of... That being the biggest movies of the year?
No, no, no.
Not the biggest.
I'm going to say it within...
So the five or six that we're picking in it
could be in contention to being
like some of the biggest movies box office for the year.
Oh, Odyssey. Yeah.
Odyssey, definitely.
Spider-Man brand new day.
Yeah.
Minions and monsters always has a shot.
They do.
Always has a shot.
Like it wouldn't count.
That's kind of the same conversation we just talked about with the guy where he's like,
like, you know.
Like Minecraft.
Yes.
That could always do well.
If it does well, it wouldn't be surprised.
Toy Story could wind up doing that kind of money if it's good, right?
Toy Story has a good shot of being one of those massive movies.
I never bet against the kids movies, ever.
Because he's always a shot.
So that's really, and Michael, Michael's got a shot to be a,
a huge movie too.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I think Odyssey.
Odyssey is another one, yep.
Super Mario, Doomstay.
Yep. Super Mario, Doomsday, Spider-Man.
Yep. And Moana, the live-action Moana.
Right. Yeah, that has a shot, definitely.
So, again, a lot of kids movies.
And the kids movies are always the closest ones to get to the billions, for sure.
Okay. Let's see.
Have you seen Punch the Monkey?
So cute love him. Yes. I've just heard about him second time now. David Jardia.
I think the problem with the multiverse saga is that the multiverse doesn't serve as a McMuffin.
McGuffin? Or the Infinity Stones fit the role perfectly. Agreed. That's why the film's feel more
disconnected. I don't disagree with that. And I think that's kind of what they're going to try to do here
and what the Russo's are going to try to fix up. And that's why I think it's going to be a direct sequel
to end game more so than anything else. Jeremy Aldris also couldn't find first two guardians.
Homecoming, Far from Home, Iron Man, 2 and 3. Thank you for all you do.
the show and y'all so the first two guardians so luke do you see that that list i'll screenshot it for you
if you don't have it so if we can put that in there all of those we did the the first guardians
unfortunately because it's stupid recording at the time it's like the end of um it's like the end of um
it's like the end of the reaction so luke will add those in there but thank you for letting us
that's very helpful very very helpful um and luke's actually fitting together that whole
playlist. Very nice. Johnny Patrice. My little girl turned two yesterday. Happy birthday. And the
sass is unbelievable bossing around our six-year-old brother with confidence. It's crazy. Yep.
The youngest kids will do that. I know. I know. I'm kind of like hope the our first girl just
she's already running in tight ship. So I'm like just be the boss. Like yeah. Yep.
Down with that. Yep. Johnny Patrice. Will you be going with Matt to Stess podcast? Do you think she'll
remember you. I am going to be going and no, I don't think she's going to remember me,
although I think she'll pretend to. Keep it cordial. Yeah, I think when I say, you know,
I worked for you for like, what was like over two, two and three months, whatever it was.
We'll see. Maybe she does. Maybe she doesn't. But we'll certainly find out. Ormata,
the world needs more Sean Moroni. I'd love that that picture is Sean Maroney. Sean Moroni.
Yeah, that's funny.
So Luke says they can check now.
All the movies are in order, just moving around the series in order as well.
But all the movies are in there now.
Nice, Luke.
Luke's crushing it.
Greeny from Oz.
Cheers, folks.
First time watching live in a while.
It's a good time to do it.
Good time to do it, man, Steph.
Hi.
42.
Come on, Steph.
42.
Punch will eventually become the new Caesar.
And I will be on his side as I was with Caesar.
We got one, two, three, four left until we're going to sign off.
Come on.
That's a franchise.
could easily come back and I would be like...
In the theater.
Yeah.
The last one did good.
Yeah.
Did great.
Did good.
So what episode are you on with Sam on GOT currently?
So are you like real time where you guys haven't seen it yet?
Because the new, the episodes, season four episode three and four will drop tomorrow.
We are on, I think we're on episodes.
I think we just finished six of season five.
So we're going to finish up the season.
Yeah, we're going to finish up the series this week, I think.
The season.
Okay, I was like, yeah, damn.
Look at that picture.
I love that picture.
Oh my God, that's awesome.
That's absolutely hilarious.
Enjoyed the fan mail question segment from yesterday's show.
I think you will do that again in the future.
Yes, I do.
I think that I'm going to wind up doing that for, because Kevin Smets will be joining
the show two Wednesdays out of the month starting in March.
Oh, cool.
So I think on days that he's not on,
the Wednesdays that he's not on that I'm doing shows,
I'll probably do that format.
I think that'll kind of be because I'm trying to find
formats for each show, right?
Like Monday is really the heavy,
heavy news thing with me and John talk radio style.
Tuesday is a circus with Roxy,
myself and Mike.
And then Wednesday will be that mailback type thing.
Thursday,
we have like a laid back kind of show.
We just got to figure out a little bit because we do some,
we'll do like one or two stories moving forward.
You know, like the big ones.
Like we do like three today.
or whatever it was that I don't want to just cover a story to cover a story.
I want to cover story who we want to talk about.
John Hendo.
I love a lot of the screen films.
I'm seeing seven tonight,
but unfortunately I got the big reveal spoiled for me.
It sounds stupid.
I don't know what the big reveal is,
but I don't like that it sounds stupid.
Buckeye.
And I had the Seven Kingdom was so good.
So good.
Did you watch it, yes, Seth?
No, okay.
So we just finished Banchi.
We just, we, I had to focus.
I had so many things to do.
Okay.
So we're, that's next on our list.
And yeah, we have Bridgerton tonight, but this weekend we're, we're diving in.
You're going to power into it.
It's half an hour episodes except the person.
That's what I was kind of looking forward to that I could just probably finish that in the weekend.
Easily.
And it's so good.
I'm so excited.
I'm so glad it's good.
You'll, you'll love it because the guy's just a really good dude.
And people love the little egg kid.
Oh, they love that kid.
You're going to love that.
I know, I can't wait.
I love his interviews and he's just a cutie star.
He's really good.
All right.
Looks like that's it for now, Steph.
Okay.
All right.
So 42.
Right now,
it looks like we've got Roxy and Mike in driver's seat for now.
But you never know.
Look,
I've seen you come back right before about to sign off.
So why don't you give us a plug what's going on in the channel?
What's happening on?
Um, oh, next week we're going to be filming.
There's this new.
This is exciting if you know anything about pregnant women.
I don't have many cravings, but I've been really wanting a cinnamon roll.
And I hear there's the best new cinnamon roll restaurant or like place to go in LA.
So I'm going to have that episode next week.
But this Sunday, Bridgeton watch.
So get so get locked and loaded.
Um, we do have a few more that came in.
So maybe, maybe you're doing what you do.
Maybe they're going to keep you sticking around for a little bit longer.
We shall see.
Brandon comes back in firing.
Set a night of the seven.
Oh, he did that one already.
Sorry.
Go, pal.
What did you think of Banshee season four?
I thought it was really great.
I was wondering where they were going to go with it.
And then I was like, oh, this is solid.
Like, I feel like some of the writing I prefer in the first and second season, but I
liked the stories and the character arcs of the fourth season.
All around, it's like, a great, it's a great show.
And it's a show where you're like, oh, every one of these.
the actor should be stars.
Job is my favorite character.
If you guys have seen it,
I think that actor should be in everything.
Like he is,
I know he was in Warrior.
You watched Warrior,
right, Christian?
The fighting show on.
No, I didn't,
I didn't watch it.
I heard it was good.
Oh, you would love it.
I know,
I heard it was good.
Okay, okay, okay.
Yeah,
Dennis used to tell me
how much I would love that show.
You would love it.
Yeah, I never got a chance.
I think I started watching.
You know, I started watching.
You know, I started watching what,
and I'm,
I finished episode,
one was peeky blinders i'd never seen that before oh okay we had just talked about how we just like fell
through the cracks on that yeah did it set you up pretty quick on yeah episode one okay yeah i like episode
one a lot okay i'm i'm definitely i'm i'm i know myself well enough that i'm i'm gonna watch this
show can you compare it to anything else like what's the vibe yeah not yet i mean it's just like an
old school you know i think um like gangster you know like old school gangster thing but it's like with the
with the Irish and the Piki Blinders are this kind of this crew that they were ex-military
that came back and they started kind of run and shop the Piki Blinders and they get them in the
first episode he gets himself into some shit with and Sam Neal is like this this cop and basically
the end of the episode the episode is him realizing he can spin this in his favor and so I'm very
curious to how it goes. I'm very much locked into it. I'm going to watch the whole thing.
Okay. For sure. I am to fly camp. Ryan Gosling and Star Wars gives me no excitement. I like
Gosling, but he's just going to play himself like the usual. Nothing in Star Wars excites me right now,
sadly. Well, that's where they are right now. I don't think that's unfair for you to say,
but, you know, it's on them to say, all right, if there's enough hype around it, right,
IM2 Fly Kim, you might say, all right, not people are saying this is not a bad movie.
I'll go check it out. And then it's on them to switch that opinion on you and get you excited
again. They have to get people excited again. But Super Bowl ads on beer commercials that are
30 years old is not the way to go. If you want to get people excited about it, you're not,
you're not, you're not. You've got to get the fans back on board. And if this has the
hype behind it, then maybe that gets you back in the theater and you will get excited for
Gossling. I think Gossling being in Star Wars is a good thing personally. Yeah, I'm very excited.
Buckeye 725. The scene with Egg and his dad at the end, hit me in Dadfields was my favorite scene
in the show. It was a good one. It was a good one. Lestey 2-66. Do you think HBO will take forever
for 90 the 7 Kingdom season 2? I don't. I think because they're shorter episodes, I think,
I feel like they're already starting to go in production, right? I think that they know that this show has to
go and the goal, at least what I heard or read, was that they want to put these out every year.
And if you want to put them out every year, you're not going to take forever and do what you.
Especially if you have a little kid as your main.
Yes.
But one of your main characters.
The good news is that it allows him to grow up the story of where it goes.
Okay, okay, cool.
Because I know.
He's at that age where he's about to.
Yeah, but I know, I know what happens or where the character goes.
right because I've I've I've read enough about the character he's playing to know what happens to him so the what the creator says that they want to they want to do various seasons of him little or younger and then they want to do various seasons of him with the same actor um older so so they said they want to like 10 or 15 seasons oh they're like we like this kid yeah I mean he's really talented the kid um go pal banshee season four felt different
but still good.
Yes, yes, yes, completely agree.
All right, here we go.
Second time I'm saying it.
We'll see.
Last one for now.
Justin Bishop, big support guys.
I love the show.
Thank you, man.
Thanks, Justin.
Really appreciate the constant support from all of you guys as you get to 49.
Still, it's a good fight, Steph.
Good, good fight.
And Johnny Petrieza, Pokemon turns 30 on the 27.
That's pretty nuts.
Did you collect anything growing up?
It was after my time.
Also, have you heard anything new about a live action movie?
No, didn't the last live action movie do okay?
I thought it did okay.
I'm surprised they didn't.
Let me see what that is.
Yeah, I thought with Justice.
Yeah.
Pokemon movie box office.
Live action.
Let's see how it did.
It grossed over 433 million worldwide against $150 million bucks.
making the second highest grossing video game at the time.
$144 million domestically and $289 million.
Pretty good.
I'm surprised I didn't do another one.
The detective picture movie.
I liked that movie.
That was cute.
Did you see it?
Yeah, I really liked that movie.
That was cute.
Yeah.
Michael D.
Jonathan Majors just announced he's starring in a live action
or an action film for the Daily Wire produced by Ben Shapiro.
You know, he's going to, he's,
look, the guy's an actor.
He's an actor.
This job.
so if he's gonna he's gonna find work where he's gonna find work.
I think it's crazy, honestly, like people have done so many crazier things that are still
working. Like the industry should not be blackballing him for long, like especially like now
it's been like a few years where it's not like he consistently like Shia LaBuff is a person who
will work easily. You know what I mean? Like and that's crazy because that's consistent years of
crazy shit. Whereas Jonathan made me.
just had one really bad incident.
And it's like he already lost Marvel.
Like I don't know like how much we keep banging it out.
You know what it is.
People are so scared of of the internet.
That's like social media.
I mean,
the studios are so scared of what,
what pushback is going to get and what this is what their
shareholders are going to say and what this is going to happen.
If this happens and they don't,
they're like that.
There's two.
There's other actors in there.
We don't need to take the risk is what it's going to take a lot of it.
And not just John to me.
There's a bunch of different people.
so he's an actor and he's he's going to get and he's looking for work.
That just sucks.
He has to go there.
That's,
I just hope that that can change because he's a great actor.
I wonder how the movie's going to be.
So that's,
that's another thing to look at.
It's like,
can, as you said before with Paramount,
can you make a movie,
no matter what your political side of it is,
if it's a good movie, it's a good movie.
You know, it's like that's,
and on the same argument stuff, right?
It's like you won't see the movie because who's involved.
But what if it's a really good movie
it has nothing new with politics.
Yeah, but it's like the same argument.
It's the same argument.
It's like he's producing it.
That's fine.
But it's like,
yeah,
it is like what is the involvement?
Because so far within his,
what I know of Ben Shapiro,
he has like an inability not to make
everything divisive and political.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know how it's going to work.
I'm just trying to play devil's advocate
where if you can,
if he's able to separate it,
and it's just a movie and you can't tell any political, you know, thoughts or anything.
It's just a movie.
Then anybody should be able to see it.
And anybody should go and check it out.
Buckeye, best advice for new parents, have dad throw a diaper party and you'll save a fortune.
Have people aim for sizes one to three.
Also, bedtime routine of six months will be your best friend.
He's right.
Oh, we're doing bedtime routine as soon as she hits like a weight, a certain weight.
So it'll be like, honestly, like eight weeks.
We're going to start knowing that it's not going to be implemented ASAP, but I'm so about a routine.
But yeah, we have diapers on our registry.
That's a huge thing.
But a diaper party is a good idea.
BK.
Abrell was watching Campy's show and Mance came up and they also did the voice.
Good to know everyone does it.
Was it Jonathan to do the voice?
Because I'll shake my fist.
As he watches this video right now, I'll shake my fist and say gimmick infringement.
Because it means he took it.
He took it because we do it on the show.
Was it Jonathan?
who did the voice?
I want to know who did the voice.
It was Jonathan,
then I'm shaking my fist.
And it's hilarious that they do it because, yeah,
Mans is the best.
I can't be that.
Okay.
All right.
I am two-fly camp.
Congrats to Jonathan Major's big return.
Yikes.
Let's see,
let's see the move.
See what kind of movie they're making.
Armada,
A-Y-T.
Hot Mike might interview Sherry DeVille.
Is that true?
Is it going to,
is everybody now,
look, Steph, we've become trendsetters.
Oh.
we become trendsetters.
Okay.
If that's, if that's, look, my thing is this, we had a very, just a great conversation with someone
who's in the adult entertainment industry.
And like, people right away like, wait a minute, you're having, like, what do you, when did it
turn into this kind of show?
What kind of show?
There's someone who's working in the industry that's doing stuff and we talk to them as a human
being.
What's different than me talking to Harris and Ford about what he does?
What's the difference?
besides what they do.
So that'd be great if they talk to Sheridanville and had the same things.
I had some conversations.
I look at some of these interviews and some of these people have and it's like,
you see some of these guys, their eyes like,
hey, can't tell me about the time?
And it's like, what are you doing?
Just talk to them like the human beings.
More support for Steph.
This Boston lady.
Thank you.
LJ. Films S1.
It was great to chat on the member stream.
Game of Thrones reaction are amazing.
Thank you.
Steph, congrats on the future channel.
Keep up the great work.
I love the streams.
For people, again, I want to reiterate this.
The member streams are for all you guys.
There are so many new members for you guys.
We have so many new things for you guys.
Whether it's the unedited reactions, all these different things.
But we do this member stream.
And PLD always posts.
Everybody who's a member,
you can submit questions.
And sometimes you just, you guys don't respond to it.
And like respond to it.
Even if you're not on the member stream,
your question will get asked.
And then anybody who's a $5 member or Patreon and over
can literally join the stream with a video call
and join and ask a question on video.
So, and at a certain tier,
you can join for the whole podcast and be a co-host.
So I would recommend taking advantage of that.
57 step is this is this a comeback possibility can you hit 50 more questions more in the next few minutes we'll see
bobby sarah always came off as a nicest and most genuine person especially dealing with vinstock she was a
sweetheart i love she's so great sweetheart yeah well roxy has a lot of great friends but that's one of my
faves yeah and then you because you kind of came out of nowhere i was like because when i was when i was
hanging out with rocks in the beginning. Sarah was
hosting a lot of the stuff and we, like I said, we're going to make her a big part of the
Shmowdown. And then towards the end, like 2019, I said, who's this
Steph Sabrach lady? Who is this lady? Yeah, I wasn't there at the beginning of
after bus. No, it wasn't until like 2017. So that makes sense. Yeah, then you
and that was my first hosting. Okay.
Is like first year. How did they find you? How did they find you? I just found it. I'm
moved to L.A. I had like three jobs, you know, like classic. And in that month, I found
afterBuzz randomly on my algorithm. And then I just applied. And then the only thing I had done
before that was I didn't work at a new station. So it was totally new to me. Isn't that funny how
that works out? Yeah. That's crazy. Crazy. All right. Let's see another one. Nathan Drake. Did
Steph see the Gina Carrano Daily Wire movie? I doubt it. No. No. No.
It's a totally different in the acting that I believe of those two.
Of what?
Of Jonathan Major.
Of course.
All right.
Here's another one.
59.
Armada,
AYT.
My favorite photo shop from Schmo's days was JTE and empty Chili's.
I still have that photo saved somewhere.
You have to send it to me.
I have so many great ones.
The best was him as the dinosaur.
After the dinosaur flood,
when he did the,
when he said the tricent.
I can't believe how many iconic moments.
moments JT. has provided.
You know, I mean, he was, he was like what Mike is.
What is doing?
He's like, he's like a professional like house sitter or like dog.
He does really well.
Oh, oh, oh, like house management.
Yeah, yeah, house management.
Yeah, you can, that could be a really great lifestyle.
He's doing really, really well for himself.
Yeah.
So the other thing that he did, which is one of my favorite things ever,
what we used to do with him is, you know what I loved about him.
He really got like, as I started out the show,
here today are people who don't really get what we do. Like I grew up listening to Howard Stern and
like being able to play off of people's camaraderie and fun like busting chops and stuff too.
Like that's what Schmo's was. Not everybody on our show got it and didn't take it. And
not everybody let it roll off their shoulders, right? JTE let it roll off your shoulders. J.T.
knew the assignment. J.T. knew when he came in as the intern. He's like, okay, that's, I'm, I'm comic
relief and he came in and he and he played into it and we did one where um i don't remember why but he
would we did the dan dan dan dan dan and he would wave his hands like this in the air and it was one of the
funniest things it would crack me up but he knew the assignment he knew how to play it and he always
he always played into it he was he was he was one of the best characters on the show for sure um
Nathan Drake. Did Steph see
Oh, you did that one already?
Okay.
Cool as a dry pickle.
What happened to Tina? I like Tina too.
I'm going to do the
John Wickstuff today.
After this show, I'm sending her, she sent me her
her avails. I'm sending, I'm sending her
when I can have her record some stuff, and then I'm
going to have her come in and do it.
I got to get Tina back.
Nathan Drake. Didn't Finstock say
JTE who's washing cars now? I don't
think he's washing cars. I don't know what he's doing.
Cool as dry pickle. excited for
Kevin on the Wednesday show. Me too.
me too and then me too last one for now christian unpronounceable just need two more in the discord come on
let's get step to 100 let's get step to 107 before we sign off yeah and 200 in the discord that's it
put the put the put the link for the discord in there now so people can sign up for it um okay
64 now this was this was my you i've told this story to right stuff the i i'm a big believer in trial
an error my client being on trial that's an error
they tell you this? Yeah I think so
Finnstock when he was so
this sound oh yeah yeah yeah it's the schmodeown
so the schmodeown when the schmodeon was in season
one when we first started it
it was you know people were getting really serious about it
and JTE had just beaten
Ellis in the biggest upset of the tournament
right because Ellis pitched a perfect game
but the way that the Schmodeon worked back then
was the final round
wasn't a five point question it wasn't the stuff it was
you bet you bet
a certain amount of points
Ellis didn't bet any points
JT bet enough points and JTE won because of the math
right and so JTE won
but there was something that happened inside of the match
where it looked like JTE was looking at Mark's paper
so we looked we reviewed the videotape
and said we believe that JTE cheated he said he said
we're going to put you on trial
so it's one of the funniest moments
moments that we were the trial of JT.E.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so we had, we had like, Cody and Josh McCougar were running around in these latex
suits and it looking like the noid.
It was, it was absolutely bizarre.
Chris Stockman was on the desk with us and we were listening to all the takes.
It was why.
And, and so Finstock was his defense attorney.
Now, the prosecuting attorney, I think I told this story before, but the prosecuting attorney
was Hal Rudnick, but he was a.
late replacement for the person who had already signed on and was on his way to the studio to be
the defense attorney. Do you know who the defense attorney was supposed to be? I want to see if
the audience remembers who the original defense attorney was going to be driving there and had to
not do it. And I had to call Halen to do it. Who was great, by the way, hell was brilliant as
the defense attorney. I want to see if anybody can guess who the original defense attorney was.
do you can you make a guess down the original originally he was he was going to be the
prosecuting excuse me the defense attorney the defense attorney was finstock the original um
schneider no the original prosecuting uh attorney
that's what i don't know that it was someone who was going to try to prove that jt e was guilty
and he was proven innocent by the way but he was but but it was um i'm trying to see there's
it's spite no it's not spicy lucy uh spicy lucy was came in a lot longer um the answer is
andrew santino oh why does that sound so he does though he does the uh the bad friends podcast
of bobby lee oh that's funny he was he was he was supposed to be the um it was yeah
it was it is i just found out some breaking news breaking news
comic book moan no way yeah he sucks parts
No way. Amazing.
Okay, a couple more here, 67.
So let's see.
Next one.
We did that one. We did that one. We did that one.
All right.
Excited for that. Just need two more and we did that.
Okay. This one.
Boston lady. I'm moving and I was going through an old bin of clothes and I found a Shmodeon
live shirt from the NY Dan Merrill champion match.
I'm so happy I still have it. Me too. That was a great shirt.
That was a great event.
I would be lying if it didn't tell you yesterday.
I was checking in on this channel,
Frank Janish,
before we changed this channel
to what it is today,
the Cronin channel,
it was like an archive channel
for Shmodown and stuff too.
And Frank Channis had put a bunch of clips
and promos and Nerg Krona was so brilliant
in his promos.
I'd be lying.
I didn't watch a few promos yesterday.
I got a little teary-eyed.
Right.
I got a little teary-eyed
and I texted Mike.
And I was like,
you know, we really had a really special thing
with that show for a long time.
Speaking of tier-eyed,
do you see Kate's,
like disgustingly casual story that she posted.
No.
That she's moving.
Was she moving?
She's going to Chicago?
Yes.
That makes sense.
She told me she was thinking about that.
I literally,
she told me she'd be my donut dula for when I give birth.
Okay.
And that's her only responsibility.
And I'm like,
how are you supposed to do this?
She like made it like it was like an ad.
Like, hey, and by the way, I'm,
oh, I got a caller.
I got a call her.
I got a call her.
And, and.
I mean, I think her profile is public, so I hope I didn't air something out.
She probably made the announcement.
She was, she, I've got to.
That makes me so sad, but I hope it's great for them.
She was, she's been talking about it for quite a while.
I tried to get her moved to New York.
She said, no fucking way.
BoJack, what's up, Bobby?
You got me reminiscing.
Do you know what Ashley Mova, she needed Natasha up these days?
They post, I mean, Ashley wasn't posting for a bit, but she started post,
answer.
She's also a mama now.
And so she's been posting, though.
she was doing stuff for the Lakers. I think she still is.
Shnade and Natasha post regularly on their Instagram. I see them kind of doing a bunch of things.
And Natasha, I think still works for Complex.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think Natasha does.
Have you ever met any of them?
I have met Natasha briefly with my friend Jess, but I don't know them.
No, that was before me.
You would have been running with that crew if you were there.
They were like the hot girl group.
Well, no, but they were just a cool of shit.
No, and they were cool.
and they knew their shit.
They know their shit.
Yeah, they were just really cool.
I got along very well.
I just like Daldor glam too.
I got along with all of them really well.
But Ashley and I
would make each other laugh quite often.
Nathan Drake, who could turn Jurassic Park back
on? Christian answered
Newman and Ellis said it was wrong.
Then Kristen said, I don't know
fuck face McGee.
Is this who could turn Jurassic Park back?
First answer new one.
I don't know.
Is that from a, like, I don't know what that's from.
Is that from like an old Shmo's show?
I don't know.
Bobby, taking clients if anyone needs a defense attorney.
JTE would have been, we should, could have used you for the JTE back then.
Nathan Drake, remember the Clyder rap video with Riley?
Oof, it was hilarious.
It was hilarious.
My, my little, my oldest, who was little at the time, loved it.
No, oof.
It was hilarious.
Johnny Petraza.
Why haven't we got a Darth Vader horror movie?
or hunting a few Jedi, picking them off one by one,
be amazing. Like a smaller budget,
I agree. Same thing.
Problem is, they're too scared of
that whole thing, that article,
we got to move on. We can't live in the
in the past. It's that shit.
There you go. Discord just hit 200.
Nice.
Okay, great. And with that, Steph,
oh, no, just kidding. 72.
Joyous Romer, support for Steph.
It made the force be with you. Hey, Christian, when will we see
Mark Ellis? People keep asking them
and they forget, Steph, what was that?
weeks ago when Mark was on the show? Yeah, I was just about to say, yeah, yeah. You guys got to watch the shows.
Mark was on the show. Yeah. During, right around the He-Man trailer, he called in, he called in and he was on the show for a good thing. And he'll probably, they'll probably do something for He-Man, too.
I'm
Or Fendango you mean?
No, you two.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, that would be good for us to do He, man, for sure.
I mean, I think he had said that he want, I don't know if he's telling the truth or not,
but if he, but I could text him and see if he wants to.
He's talking about seeing it with you.
He should come to New York and see, let me tell, I'll text them right now, right?
Text Mark Ellis.
Hey, are you still thinking about coming to New York to see Masters of the Universe so we do a review
and podcast together or are you just full of shit?
You'll see if he can have a text back.
All right.
I think that's it.
72.
That's pretty damn good.
It was good fighting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
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Thank you so much for being here.
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