The Kristian Harloff Show - She-Hulk Episode 6 SPOILER Discussion I Marvel I Capes and Cowls

Episode Date: September 23, 2022

On today's Capes + Cowls, Big Thing episode, we talk She-Hulk. Episode 6 is out and the crew is split again. Is it good? Bad? Funny? Not funny? We discuss the latest MCU episode and talk about it in depth. We also talk about the state of online fandom and what the space is and how it is different from years past. This and more with Kristian Harloff, Coy Jandreau and Winston A. Marshall. #shehulk #marvel #mcu #disney GEOLOGIE: https://geolog.ie/KRISTIAN70 MYBOOKIE: Double your deposit by using the code BIG THING AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg PATREON: http://www.patreon.com/thebigthingshow SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg - CM Punk Interview: https://youtu.be/R8Js8uj6GfE FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing, capes and cows. It's the Friday episode. And I want to say thank you. Thank you to everybody for the very positive and kind words for these episodes. I know that you've been digging myself and Winston and Coy together. We've been enjoying being together and kind of shooting the S-H-I-T is good for everybody, not just English people. So there is a lot.

I just thought of that. I like that a lot. I'm digging that. I like that. So anyway, I'm very proud of myself. And I'm proud of you guys. I'm proud of you guys because this is this studio. My brother wrote me this morning.

You watched the council last night. He's like, man, the studio looks great. And I go, the studio would not look like this without the, the generosity of the fans. We put the Amazon list up there, the wish list. And we put some stuff up there. And you guys were just overwhelming your support. People are still getting stuff. And we have stuff left on there.

But we're about, I think, 40% right now. of what we, I'm talking about as far as setup goes. We have so much stuff that you guys send. Like, everybody makes a comment when they come in here. They're like, the boxes are just stacked up. What do you want? There's two of us. What do you want us to do?

But Winston made the joke, too. It's like when you see the wide shot, it looks really nice. If I showed you the other side, it looks like, you know, there's going to be, what's his face? It's that character Damon Wayne's played in Living Color. Homeless guys, guys are popping out of the boxes, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so it's... Well, you already did, so it doesn't matter.

Anyway, so we're going to be talking about Sheehulk, obviously, episode five. We're going to be talking about a lot of the other casting things that are coming up. We're not too far away from Black Adam. That's right around the corner. So we'll have that, and are we ever getting Daredevil? Is the question, and the answer is, yes, we are. We've seen footage already, too, but people are getting impatient. So we'll talk about that.

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Are you ready? Good. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It is. Caves and Cows. And I am here with Winston A. Marshall. Cigney. Coy Jandrow.

Did I get it right yet? Yeah. I got it right? Nice. There it is. Five, eight years of friendship. Eight years of friendship. There it is.

Have we known each of the four years now? I think so, man. I think after Buzz was eight years. I don't know if I met you at After Buzz, though. I met you the first time I really, I had met you, I had met you, I had known, because people kept telling me like, you know, it would be really good on Shmodan. I'm like, who? And they're like, Koi.

and he's really good at movie fights. I'm like, it's a different animal. And I proved that immediately. And I came in there and I was like, let me show you why they're different. But I said, I like the guy's personality. I like the fact that he's, you know, he's going out there and he's, and he definitely is very knowledgeable. So, and then I reached out to you.

And I think the first time I really ever met you. Was it that free? He was a free fraud? I said, you want to come on by and you're like, I don't really know what this is, but I'll do it. I showed up and you gave me a number. And I was like, I thought we were a meeting. And then I, like, walked out on stage.

And I was like, I'm number 14. Well, it's a natural performer in you, too. Yeah, I was ready to go. But was that five years ago then? That was, that was 2016. No, no, but when I... 2017. So I was right the first time, five years.

Yeah, about five years, yeah. That's crazy, man. In LA, that's like 90. Wait, wait, wait, wait, you only met in 2017? Early 2017. Yeah, like January, February. Yeah. But bitch, I met you at 26th?

What the hell? 2016? No, it was 2017 also. It's free for all for us and then... You were after, because you... That's why I was confused. It's 2017. It's just the...

Two-year blip. I was in the old, I mentioned with the old Collider building. Yeah, same. Yeah, same. It was a free for all in that building. Yeah. But then, like, you know, the two, I think the two-year gap really throws all of our timelines off and how dense that year was. It's true.

If you look at that 2017 year, what we all did, like, what Collider was and Schmowdown. And we saw each other like four days a week. I have to say, I think that it was funny because I always talk about how much I take big dumps on Collider Live and Jedi Council and everything now, too. Like, I hate it. It's like, if I could race things in my life, it would be those two things. God damn. Oh, I hate it. I hate it.

I should have stayed with Schmoz and continue to, that's what I should have done. I should have stuck with it. But hindsight is 2020. Yeah, yeah. However, I will say this, that those, I think that before we left that studio, that studio was awesome. Oh, that environment. I loved that studio. I think once we moved to the other building is really what it went downhill from it.

It was the same building, just different sides of it, right? Yeah. Yeah, but like the old space, like the, I don't know, something about it. It was historic. And it was big, it was like a big room. You can use it. And then they kind of can, they did with it. He did a great job of the way they condensed it in that space that they had.

Sure. But it was, it wasn't the same. Yeah. Maybe that was it too. I just like, I, I enjoyed being in that other space. And then once, like, because I think that's what it is. Like, if I put my memories to that, that space, I don't mind it. Yeah. I put it to other space.

And I'd rather just smell farts and cars than ever go back to live that life. And everyone that came in, like, those. I hate it. I hate it. God. People always, people were saying, like, I didn't know you hated Clara a lot. I hate it. I hate that show.

There was a lot of weird, like, aggression, man. It was like a little pockets. Like everyone was like, I'm doing my thing. And you're like, we're work together. Like, weird. That was the only thing. That was the only weird vibe whenever I would come to like guest on something is it definitely felt like everybody was in their own world. And I was like, guys, we're all going together.

It's like each pocket, each show was like their own thing. And it wasn't. And it doesn't matter. I remember like fighting for screenings. And I was like, I'm the one that toasting heroes. I need to see the hero movie. Like it was a weird. Yeah.

But here we are. It is what it is. Years later. Here we are. I talk about positively, about everything we're going to be so positive about. So positive. It's coming. That's super positive.

Let's be positive. And it's time to be positive. Ladies and gentlemen, if I could find the damn thing. I can't even find it. There it's. Sheholt. Let's do it. She Hulk episode six.

She told you. She told you up top. It is a self-contained wedding episode is what she says. And to my reaction was, it's just, it shows losing me, guys. It's just losing me. I think that the, it's, and what I said inside of my review, and I'll say it to you guys,

is that I still think she is incredible. I think she's an amazing actress. I think that everyone in this show is doing a good job as far as performance goes. My issue with this show is that I think that it is definitely there's now an audience, like, whether it's, I had a great conversation with Winston's girlfriend, who, first time meeting her super lovely, Kristen, and we had a conversation about it. And she loves, she loves this show, right? And I was, and she's not a Marvel fan.

And I said, that's where they succeed with this show, because they can bring in those casual viewers. But you had asked question, but doesn't, it doesn't mean that you're going to add more fans. I don't think Kristen's going to start watching more Marvel because she's now locked into She-Holt. Think she'll try the next thing of the She-Hulk in it?

Maybe, if she-hook's in it, maybe. So if they start, that's what I'm seeing is like, we're not going to lose the diehard Marvel fan. But this tone, though, and again, I can't speak of Kristen. I've met her. I've met her once, only from what, but I'm just saying, I think that, This tone won't be consistent throughout. This is a very specific thing that they're doing.

And for me, nobody seems real anymore. And there's the only, the most real moment in this episode for me was when Jennifer's sitting on the bench and the dude comes over. And he's like, oh, I just wanted a,

he was, you know, it was a romantic comedy moment, flirting with her, talking about the walnuts. And she, and she like just responds back. I'm like,

this kind of stuff I love. This, this to me seems real. Yeah. It seems like a real conversation. And then she shows, up to the thing, the girl who is another, it's just full on sitcom character, not real, her friend, like every other mean girl you've seen, and she goes, and she's like, why are you showing up a

She-Hulk? Well, first of all, you know she's She-Hulk, you haven't talked to her in years, call her on the phone and say, do me a favor, don't show up a She-Hulk. That's part one. Part two, if you ask me to do dishes or laundry when I'm here, I'm going to turn into the She-Hulk and throw you over the river. It's like, that is the stupidest thing. Everyone treats her like an ass the entire time, except the one dude, who might be bad. Yeah. Everyone else is a jerk. The friends are jerks.

It's like, how long do we have to, we get it. She's not as, she's not super confident. We get, we get it. It's such, it's just beating you down. It's like, it was cool for me in the first couple, but now I don't know, I'm over. I guess that there's, there's two things that stick out. The first is I, I think if you treat it with the lens, though, of this is genuinely a sitcom. This is full-blown sitcom.

So you're talking about the friends, Pivot! Like, I mean, this is a sitcom. I know, but I think it was a bad choice at this point. I mean, and that's the thing. Like I said, Kristen is fully into it. And anybody, like, all of the women in my life, for the most part, have been like,

the show is incredible. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And they absolutely love it. And I think the only issue that you've had is by giving them this many episodes and knowing that for the people that are here just for the MCU element of it, they're like, okay, how does this connect?

And the fact that we haven't done that really truly yet, we've only had small little nuggets, but not- You're losing those people. That's the only thing that I could fully agree with you on, but as far as like the writing and what this is and everything, I completely disagree in that I think it's- You're not disagreeing with me, actually. You're actually agreeing with me because I,

because what I'm telling you is that it is, it's not a poorly written show. It's not a, it's, what it is is that it's doing, it is a comedy. I think it's a bad choice. I think it's done well. But I think it's a bad choice. And I think because of that reason, you're losing that audience. You can gain a new audience. Right.

But you're losing the core audience of it because the, and I thought the balance of the first two were done so well. And it had all of that. It had everything. It had all this stuff with her. And even the dating episode, which was fine, you know, the way that they kind of combined that. And the way that they added the humor with abomination, I thought worked real well. The last two episodes, the trademark thing, Coy, and the, and now it's just a full wedding. And, yeah, the divorce thing was.

was, I was tuning out. I was so, it was, it was so not real. I thought that shit was hilarious. It was, it was, it was so not real. It was so silly. And it was like, and then by the time they got to it, it was like, what we're going to give you 30 seconds of eye contact. Oh, thank you so much.

What are you talking about? It was so stupid. So my perspective, uh, I think that this is doing something different for me. I'm, I'm not a sitcom fan. I think, for example, I think the Big Bang theory is a malignant cancerous tumor in the rectum of comic books. That's a whole other. But, but, but, but, but,

I think it's like it's negative, it's detrimental to the culture of comic books. And I think that's, it's really bad for us because it set us back 10 years. It's the opposite of community. Community is written by nerds, four nerds about nerds and Big Bang Theory is written punching down at nerds. I think that's a bad thing. Whereas this, I think is I don't generally watch sitcoms. I like friends growing up because that was what I was watching growing up.

It was Thursday night. It was me and my mom. But like overall, I don't like sitcoms. What this is doing is it's having me watch a sitcom that does tie into my world. That's making me feel like it's a gateway. Now I get sitcoms a little more because it's playing in my sandbox with other characters. I don't like every joke. I don't think it's realistic.

I definitely don't identify with a lot of these characters. But it's teaching me another language. It's teaching me the language of sitcoms in that I find it funny. And what's so tricky about it is this is one of those shows you don't have to like. And I think what's causing a lot of animosity online is when I say I like it, it's having people say I'm gaslighting or I like everything Marvel or I'm a shill. But what it is for me is it's helping me understand an entirely new type of genre. Because it's connecting it enough to my world, I don't think everything works.

No, you're right. Look, and the flip side goes like for me now, right? So I enjoyed the first two, but because I didn't like this one, oh, do you hate women? Do you, is it this, oh, you don't, you don't like, of course you don't like it. Because there's not, it's not enough dude stuff. And I'm like, no, wait a minute. Yeah. Like what I, what I'm telling you is, I think that this, what I also disagree with

people who go, oh, this show shouldn't be on. It sucks. No, clearly it should be because it's finding a new audience. I'm just telling you that it's losing me. Sure. And if that's the case, you know, and they don't care about that, they're, and they very well might not. They might say, look, our goal is to find more Kristen's. And that's the fear of the MCU right now for me is that you saying you don't like it is people attacking you for being misogynist. Me saying I do like it is people attacking me for being a shill. You can't win with Marvel fans. Well, that's why you can't care. So I won't mention the person. name because I don't want I don't think it's fair but like I saw someone who I respect on

YouTube recently and it's about Star Wars stuff and the particular creator was making comments doing doing their thing and and and was getting you know how any the fandom in general could be and they were going after this person and I don't want to do this anymore like I'm I'm just going to bail for a bit I don't want to talk about it anymore and I wrote the person to DM and I said listen I've been there before yeah I have been there before to where I'm like I'm stepping Oh I'm close my thing is where is what you say like where you're going to get this no matter, you're never going to appease everybody. Right.

So you got to just say what you say. Right. And you got to be able to pivot away from it and really not look at it, to be honest. Yeah. Look, it's like today. I do, I read the comments. I respond to people. And what I've seen on this channel is the conversations will go.

I mean, you have a couple of people who throw like some barbed wire punches. But there's some people, most people, are having a conversation. They're going back and forth because it's the other thing I told this person. As a creator, no matter what it is. It's your store. Yeah. you can throw people out by the pants and have every right to do so. So I have like what people don't realize if you're here and this will happen to you,

if you come in here insulting Coy and calling him names and telling him the things, I hide you from the channel and you're gone. I just do that. Now, that's not to say you can't write to Coy and say, Coy, I disagree with you and what you're saying here because I feel I'm not liking this show and I don't find the sitcoms and you present a conversation. That is what we encourage you. Yeah, because then I've,

discourse and that's conversation, that's dialogue versus you monologing and feeling entitled. Like, I'll happily have a dialogue and especially if someone has something, I love to see a new perspective as long as it's intelligent. Like, I'm happy because sometimes people can show me things I didn't see, which is why we all do this, is to see things we didn't see. It's why we're having this conversation right now. It's literally the point. It's why we're having this conversation right. But it's maddening when that gets cut off by zealousy in one direction or the other. It's maddening when it's, you're so in love that you can't see any sort of critique or perspective, not even critique, perspective, or you're so angry without even watching it that you can't

accept people like it. Right. Well, right. I mean, and even to the point where I guarantee you because I'm the first one to be like, oh, I loved it. That they're going to show, that shill comments will come at me first. But like what, but again, if you listen, if you live, but if you listen to what I said, I said as a sitcom, all of that it's doing. And I, like you said, I agreed with you that you have to be careful with it being the MCU. What is our through line? It's just working for you. It's like, It is working view. It's, it's, that's the whole thing. This is, this is the beauty.

And this is what I saw it. So I put a bunch of, I put my review up this morning or yesterday morning. And I saw a bunch of people who said, I'm, I'm done. I'm not watching anymore. I love that. Yeah. Great. They didn't, they didn't insult anybody.

They didn't throw anything. They said, I'm done anymore. It's not for me. It's their time. And they, they'd have your right to do that. And they also said this. They also said this. I think that I'm done with Marvel right now because Marvel hasn't been getting me lately.

And I get that because, and I think what has been hurting me. me more so. I'm doing a rewatch of the MCU right now. So you're comparing. You have to get very fresh. It's hard for me not to compare because I'm so,

because I just were like Iron Man 3 had a lot, had, had humor in it, right? And that was a big thing that people like, oh man, how silly Trevor Slatter he was or whatever too. It,

it looks like a freaking Shinler's less compared to this as far as the tone goes. Sure. Because it's like. And I do miss that, dude. I'm not, I'm with you. Like, I, you know, I was in defensive phase four being creative freedom.

I was strongly in defensive phase four being directors making their own choices. But I do not think it's a coincidence. Phase four is ending early. Phase four was supposed to be a lot longer. And it looks like they're like, ooh, we're going to make some changes. Phase five, clean stuff up. I'm wondering, no, if they're going to, like, how they're going to, because like I said, Winston's not wrong.

Like, they're like, are people who really love this show. And women love this show. And it is aimed towards them. And I think that is awesome. I think that is great. I tried to tell my wife that she should watch this too, but the only problem that I have with it is that very, and I think I said this last week,

and I'll say it again here. So sex in the city to me was a show in season one that I thought was pointed towards men and women, and men could relate because they had certain characters, whether it was Steve or whoever were Aiden or wherever it was, and you went through these, you felt you could relate to them. And even the stuff that was going on with some of the women that maybe you didn't relate to,

they made you relate to it through some of the guys. Sure. And then as it got to like season three and four, it became even more popular than it ever was, but it lost me because it became so, there was so much stuff that I couldn't relate to. And I couldn't get, and the show was one of the most popular shows of all time,

and my wife loves it and a lot of people love it. It just wasn't for me anymore. Yeah. And I'm feeling that with this show in the last two. Again, I think the big danger, and this is, I don't know how you do this properly. I know how you do it once. We've walked, well, sorry, there we go.

Once we've walked away from the show, like once we're done with the season and all that, you can easily go, if you're trying to make sure you're able to keep up with the MCU, here are the four episodes you need to watch so that things make sense. I think the one thing that they genuinely ran in trouble with, because, again, with an episode order this big, you're having to fill it out. So that means you're going to have your... Yeah, but it's only half an hour. No, no, no, I understand it's a half hour, but how many episodes is in total?

It's nine. It's not that happened by much. No, no, but to that point, you have the contained story that is the through line for the MCU that needs to get told. But then the rest of it, you got to fill out the rest of those episodes. And so to that point, with Ms. Marvel, for example, only being six, you don't really have time to go on too many tangents. You know what I mean? Yeah. With Captain America and the Winter Soldier, you don't have time to go on too many tangents.

I hear what you're saying, but to me, the difference is this. It's still, it's still consistency and tone, right? So, like, with Ms. Marvel, even if it was six to nine episodes, the tone is still significantly different. One division was nine. It stayed consistent. It did. But it didn't have, it didn't have tangents, though. No, but here's what I'm saying with Ms. Marvel, and I said this to you guys before we went on the air.

Ms. Marvel, to me, was a show that I wasn't expecting. We said this on, we said this off air, right? We had three starts in this conversation. If I said it twice to you guys, I apologize. but I just want to make sure. So Ms. Marvel, to me, was a show that I didn't know if I was going to relate to because as I was watching and I'm going, this looks cute, but it looks like a Scott Pilgrim type show, which they kind of abandoned that, by the way, but the Scott Pilgrim type thing that my daughter's

going to like, so I want to watch it with my daughter. Yeah. Turns out I didn't need my daughter to watch it because what they did very well in that show was they combined the, I learned a lot about, first of all, I learned a lot about a culture that I wanted to learn about. That was never, that was something that was always intriguing to me, but I learned a lot about the culture. But besides that, it was the family aspect. And that was more intriguing to me than the Marvel stuff inside of it. However, the Marvel stuff was there and it was really relevant

and they added it into this kid, how obsessed she was with it. And by the end, they balanced it all. That last episode's a master class and balancing tones. That's what I'm saying. So like the tone of that all together. And there was humor in it. There was comedy in it. There was, and they seemed real. Yeah. And I know that the point is like when you see it, like I already know, there's a particular person who's going to text me. Yeah, but that's the point. It's situational. It's supposed to change every week. I know, but that's not working for me. Yeah, and you're just saying for you, which I think is very important. I know we've hammered home, but I also think it's really important that the MCU can flex these different style muscles,

and I think it's really interesting that the thing I'm coming to is that I don't know if Kristen's going to watch Daredevil, Born Again, but she will probably watch the Avengers movie than a shehawk in it. And so what's interesting is Marvel's gotten so big, it doesn't need everyone. Like, I don't think it needs the 30%. of people that's going to drop off, if it even gains 10%, because by the time you get to the next Avengers film, you're going to have 110%. Because those 30% that dropped off of the show

are coming back for Avengers. The 10% it adds from the show are also now coming. So I think it's worth it's like a bait, you know what I mean? No, I agree with you. I think what the issue is, though, is that, and because I think that that is the strategy that I'm going with. And it makes sense, honestly. But I think that overall issue is just the fact that you have made it, that everything you put out is much

must watch TV because it all, or movies, because it's all related. Sure. That's the only issue is you've told your audience, you have to watch everything. It's just, and that's where you get into trouble. Yeah, and it's just tough, though, too. That's exactly right. And it's also tough because when you have to watch everything and it all, you think it's all going to connect, right?

Then you watch something like the trailer for Ant Man. And now Ant Man is always based in humor, right? There's always humor. And especially I thought the second one even got a little too sticky. but the third one looks kind of dire in points of what's going on with Kang. Yeah. And then there's, and then you look at Black Panther.

Black Panther 2, or Wakanda Forever, and Shehawk do not seem like they could possibly coexist. At all. I can never imagine Shehulk popping up in Wakanda. And if someone's got to change, you've got to make her a little bit more real, you know,

because Tataa and his life certainly can't do it. Like that's been, that was my, well, that's the great example, right? When I look at Thor, I look at Infinity War and Endgame as Thor. That's what my head canon is those two movies, because they were the perfect blend of that Guardians of the Galaxy, meet Kenneth Branagh, meet, a little bit of taste of Tyca,

but with trauma, the humor coming from the trauma. That to me is perfect. I think you can find that She-Hulk, even if she was in Wakanda. I think the difficulty's going to be is as they expand this out, if people don't watch She-Hulk, them understanding even the difference that's kept. Right. Is she going to be addressing the camera in the adventures and those types of things, too? It's like, I hope not.

Because I think that it works, because what I don't want to see is a shift in, like where she lives in her world, if you're loving that, it works. Right. If you start blending that into something, like if she's in,

and I know they wouldn't do this, but if she's in the middle of a fight with, you know, in Wiconda and then she turns to the camera and addresses it. Right. In a Deadpool movie when he's doing it, it's been set up,

those are the rules. Right. If it's just a rule in your world and you bring it in, it might be weird. And that's what I'm curious about with Deadpool, if it does become a rule in the X-Men world. Right.

Well, see, that's the thing. I think it would work as long as you don't, as long as you don't overdo it. So like, again, I think back to Peter Parker. And I think about the fact that like everything that we got out of this MCU Spider-Man, how the fact that he, the kill mode is like, oh, and what for you? And what for, like, you're still pulling those elements as long as you don't over-saturate it. Because then you still have the moments of him like, Mr. Stark, I don't want to go. So you know what I'm saying? You just have to find the balance of Chris Pratt being like, no, you will not be taking our ship today with, I'm to kill you. That's right. And it's about balance.

Right. We haven't seen her in that big word yet. I know, but that's what I'm saying is there's no, there's not enough balance. I thought the balance was there in episodes one and two. I think the balance has been lost in the last two. I think two is still my favorite episode. Yeah. So to me, one and two had a balance of like, say like 60% of like that, like, because

what I really enjoyed about episode one, right? The conversation that she has with, with Bruce about the things that she goes through in her life, you could be those serious moments. She could be like, you know, there was, it seemed more real. But you know what's funny. is that remember the one thing that she said to Bruce, he was like, you have to control your anger, your emotion. She's like, you don't get it.

Again, as a woman, I am constantly dealing with said bullshit. And that's what we've been seeing. We've been, sorry, we've been seeing it in the dating life. We've been seeing it in like someone, like another woman being a piece of shit and try to do stuff, trying to take her down. I know, I know, back to back, right? Back to back episodes. So, like, you're seeing now these exact elements of these moments where she has to control herself.

But that's what I mean, though, but it's, it's tone. You can still, it's, personally. But you could change, you could do that and not be like, huh? Like, Titanic is not a real. But there's a lot of people that like that, that. And so that's what I think is a benefit. Like, I don't get them.

Like, I mean, I don't get the characters, not the people. People seem nice. But, like, I don't get the characters that are full clown shoes. But I do think there's people that want that from their TV that weren't getting that in a superhero format. And now are. Mostly everyone in the show clown shoes at this point? Oh, that's what I'm saying is that. That's the audience, though.

Like, I think this is a new audience. What's what I mean, though? But I said, that's what, and I just, like, the, the whole thing with that guy, the Mr. Invincible, it's like, it's, it's just, it's just to prove that the best friend is a good lawyer to. This was Greg's favorite episode. And Greg, uh, it was fully invested in all these subplots. He was fully in. And I think Greg was able to help me see that this is an audience that I don't tap into.

Oh, sorry, Greg Alba. Friend of the show. Uh, Greg Alba, uh, it has a lot of insight into a lot more TV because he watches it for work. You know what I mean? So I think what he showed me was that like that subplot not only brings in a comic element, but also shows people this sitcom humor that I don't generally understand. Because there's a lot of times in the reaction you'll see me just like fully middle distance glaze over confused. Yeah, I love sitcoms, man, but it's just, I don't know.

Not for you. It's losing me. No, no. And I totally respect and understand that. And again, that's why I'm saying that through line thing, I think it was weird for them to sort of tease daredevil and to not maybe go into that in the next episode. I think there was a leak. We weren't supposed to know he was in it. And they added that.

They added that. They added that little button later. Because think about it, think about how inexpensive that seem would be to shoot. Let me bring that back to that episode. And that's the type of stuff I think that's annoying me about this show. It's not just the sitcom. It's not the sitcom tone because they did always tell you that's what the show is going to be.

Sure. It's the idea that inside, even friends, even friends which was a sitcom, they still pretended like people were real inside of this world and like certain things when people showed up that they would react as if they were real people. It does bother me that that's silly scene in episode five.

When, and I say, as I told you guys, when She-Hulk shows up to get from the, what's the guy, the designer. Now, I know designers act like this. I know that they're over the top. This is literally the only She-Hulk in the world. It is the second Hulk. It is the second Hulk. And this guy's like, oh, I can't work with you. And you're a moron.

Then you are the worst designer in the world. But why you did that is to show once again that she's not desirable, no matter even a She-Hulk at this point, from the top. And it's like give it a rest and they do it again in this. It's like hey, can you clean up this thing? No, I'm the she-hulk. Okay, no, I'm not gonna clean up anything. So I have a story for you. So I was just talking to my sister and she was at a wedding

where they were holding it at like, essentially, it was kind of sad. It was like kind of like in a mall, sort of they were having this wedding. And the best man and the actual groom screwed up and spilled shit all over. Go ahead. spilled stuff all over their shirts. And so my sister, who was part of the bridal party,

had to stop what she was doing because they went and bought new shirts and she had to go and steam them all. So that's a very real... Your sister is not Sheehulk. No, no, I understand. But she's a brunt. Stop it. She's a bridesmaid.

And she's a woman. No, I understand that. And it's the same thing. No, it's not. No, it's just, no. No, it is. They didn't shove it in her face and say, clean this up now.

But see, but very clearly, the only thing that was weird for me was the bride then going, Shehawks have my wedding. I'm like, you're that drunk that you don't, like that was weird. I'll give you that. And the dishes were also weird. But it's like, look, the situation that you gave there, your sister's being a nice person

and something happened. She was the bridesmaid and she wanted, and she wanted to help out. You know that Sheehoek was also a bridesmaid, right? But she was thrown, but yes, but they were treating her like. It was punitive, not helping. Yes, it wasn't helping. It was like, hey, take this now because you're the schmuck that the designer wouldn't work with. Everybody needs to know, you're the schmuck.

And take this. What's funny to me. is, okay, so I had one, I feel like we all have one big gripe, my big gripe at the end, the last 20 seconds drove me insane, and I don't know why it made me so angry. 20 seconds. Oh, them prepping. The needle. They walked by at the needle, and then they showed the needle,

and then they showed the needle. And then they showed the needle. Then he walked by with seven seconds of the broken needle. Then he put the broken needle down, picked up the new adamantium vibranium. I was like, we get it. And then they showed it one more time. And I was like, guys, I understand. And it's that Sam Ramey stuff. I don't like. Yes, and it's that ominous music at the end.

Right. You only had to share the needle once. You don't even have to. Because I get that the same, I get to the bad guy. It wasn't enough of a. That's her of me. Yes. And it wasn't enough of a reveal at the end to go, oh, man, what's going to happen next?

Right. Okay. He's a needle. She's probably, you know, we know she's okay because we saw the scene with deer devil. Especially with no, with no, especially with no hint as to who is behind said needle. Right. Like, let us like start to think about it for a second because I remember, I mean, the Mephisto talk was ridiculous.

It's Mephisto with a needle. Confirred. But you would get random things. You were like, oh, crap, is that nightmare? Is that Mephisto? Why is Quicks over here? You had something to go, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. But I understand why you were upset because I'm like,

I have no idea who. And why are you trying to make me care? And like, why did you feel, it felt like they were thinking I was dumb? Like, I don't like when an audience is disrespected. It seems like you're all coming to the top side. I don't disagree. I'm so tired.

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That's the truth. So, I mean, I don't know. I mean, look, I'm glad people are enjoying the show. And I'm glad that you're liking the show. And like, as Koi said, and we all said beforehand, too, please, and I know it's easier said than done. If somebody likes the show, let them like it. If they, you know, you can debate with your friends.

Like I just did for the last half an hour of what you didn't like about it, what, you know, what you do like about it, it's fair. Don't insult people. Also, in the broader sense, if anyone likes anything that isn't hurting you, why are you investing your time into fighting? Like, I don't understand, I'm getting very old man yells at Cloud

as I, as I passed this birthday, but I don't understand how people don't quantify that time is the only thing they have. So to use that to, like, go at anyone over something that doesn't affect you is such a weird waste of your life. Like, we talk about stuff to see different perspectives

and to, like, enjoy the art of it and have a conversation, and to share these things with you. Like, that's a conversation. But you're spending time, like, on Twitter and all caps, yelling at a show that didn't insult your mother and you're acting like it did. And I just don't understand that I don't want you to look back in 10 years

and realize that you wasted a year of your life on Twitter. Whoever you are. And on the flip side of that, too, which I agree with everything that Corey just said. But on the flip side of that, also, if people are intelligently and discussing in a good way why they didn't like the show, don't just go ahead and call them names

and tell them why they have. hate people and why they do this. If they're saying it, look, if they are absolutely putting it down where they look like they're hating on people and being jerks to people, then yeah, you should call them out on it. But if they're talking about it, don't just assume that you know them that you're going to say. The parasocial relationships, the internet are fascinating. It's like, if people see us for five hours a week on various things, they think they know our perspective, but like people don't. And then they like attack personally. And it's so, it's so fascinating. You don't like it. You don't know. I'm trying to tell you why I didn't like it, but you're going to

still dive deep into it. So again, if people don't like it and they can tell the reasons why they don't, then let them not like it. If they like it and they love it and they can tell you reasons why they love it, then let them love it. Who cares? If you spend 10 minutes a day arguing, just 10 minutes. 10 minutes is not a lot of time. If you spend 10 minutes a day, that's an hour a week if you take Sundays off. There are 52 weeks in a year. That is more than 52 hours. That is more than two days. That is two days and four hours of your life a year. You've wasted. You fools. I feel like he's memorize those numbers. I just did math.

He's about to be like, he's about to be like, Scott Steinner. I love math. It's the only thing that makes sense. One plus one is two all the time. The only thing I will say about all of them. Terrence Howard,

new math. Astromat. I call Howard math. Math, mate. Please tell me you saw. Oh, it's so good. So, so people getting so upset about the Little Mermaid,

there was one black dude that goes, oh, I'm a ruin everything for you. Dude, it was so good. everything including Lord of the Rangs, Return of the Kang. The entire cast is cool, too, Lord of the Ranks. And instead of Aquaman,

it's Aquaman, and then it's hustle and flowing. The theaters near you with him and Taraji, but if you're going, the only thing I will say, if you really want to be a troll like that, at least be intelligent about it. You know what I'm saying?

Like, don't come up with a bunch of bad grammar and ish that don't make no damn sense. At least be smart. at the very least. Dude, I got so insulted. I got so insulted. There's this dude that was like just a troll for a year and a half,

like a full year and a half. And I muted him and every so often someone would comment so I'd see his trolling and I'd be like, this guy's still here. And I was like, okay, I've never engaged. It's time. Today's the day. And I like, commented below so we saw it.

And then I retweeted and I was like, yo, this guy, he literally deleted his entire Twitter within five minutes. After a year and a half, he committed 18 months to me. And I finally, Howard. I'm so, I'm upset with him. I'll be honest with you.

I guarantee you he saw that retweet and he goes, I've made attention to me. But he's, he printed that out. And that's for him now. He deleted his Twitter and then he had a very personal moment. Oh yeah, that page is crunchy now.

What I tried over the last couple of years, I'll tell you is I tried the light side treatment as well. And it has worked more than none. And so basically what that is, is that if people are in there, and you've seen me do it on this channel. Yeah. I think that what our first,

especially is East Coasters, Our first, like, instinct is to throw it back. And I did that for a while. And I realized that you don't know what people are going through in their day and what has maybe probably, like, because you don't, like, I always say, you, everybody has access to the internet. So think of the worst thing you've ever seen a family go through on a Netflix special. And some kid who just has a rough home life, right? And he has nowhere to take it out. So he goes on the computer.

He's pissed away. and who knows what happened to him in his life. And he goes under the computer and he sees you and he doesn't agree with your take and he just goes after you. And your first instinct is to go right back after him. Right. Because you don't know. Right.

The same way he doesn't know you. So I started looking at that perspective and I have tried to give people the benefit of the doubt to where if someone comes at me like that, I try to have the conversation and say, listen, how about this? And if they go, I'm going to hold back and I go wait and I'm sorry and look at it this way. I'm just saying this. Yeah. Then they come back.

Now, some people are just there to whip their pricks out and then, and then that's it. Yeah. To be, to be jerks. And then that's when you just throw them out. Because I try to look at other tweets before I like, because I, I don't retweet someone unless their only thing is strolling. Like, I don't want my people to attack them because I'm bringing a bigger audience if I retweet. I'm sharing that.

But if I look at their whole, if their whole thing is menace and they're harming other people. I know, but even that guy, what's going on in that guy's life? You know what I mean? I wish I had, you have virtue that I don't. Like, I would rather them suffer. Like, I would rather cause them hard. Wow. I'm going to be honest with that.

That's the blackest thing you have ever said. I don't be real with you, bro. The petty is strong with this one. That was the blackest thing you have ever said to Detroit. I'll tell you. I don't mean to be condescending to you. You just turn. How old did you just turn?

34. Yeah. So you, well, no, like I said, you got virtue. I might get there.

So what I'm saying. And when I was like, it's, it's, it'll change. And I hope so. I look forward to being more patience. Like,

I don't think that's even petty. See, that's the, that's the, that's the problem. Benjamin Button to you because I was that person that let everything side and was like, hey, we're all brothers and we're good. And now I'm like, if you don't get the, I'm off.

It's tough. Look, we're all human beings. Yeah. And it is. It's that thing. And especially with the frustrating part of it is like, that's why I never talk about politics. Like on Twitter, I never talk about politics with people in general because it just doesn't, it doesn't go anywhere.

Right. It really doesn't. And what's frustrating to me is that this space, what's supposed to be movies and supposed to be has unfortunately turned political. Yeah. And it turned political, whether it was five, six years ago, whenever it, whenever it did. It turned political. And there is a, there is, there is, there's no doubt about it.

And I said this on big thing yesterday. And I don't want to get into a full thing about it here, but just the idea of what's unfortunate for some people too is that whether it is your brand, let's say it's your brand to hate, like that's your brand. Sure. And you make money off of it. No, no, but if you make money off it, there's people who make, So thousands of $1,000 because they have to do that.

Now the question is, like let's say someone, like I said, I don't, I went into Sheehoek skeptical when I'm loving the first two, go, I'm going, I'm a love the show. And it turned out, I don't love it too much. But I didn't hate it. I didn't have this. It wasn't my, that's not, that's not my thing. Sure. My question is this.

Let's say that there's a, there's a channel out there that, like, has been just hating on it, saying that's this, saying that. And we watch an episode, and they love it. Right. They can't say anything about it. Right. Right. And it's the same thing.

like let's say that someone who is overly positive hates an episode. Right. Hates it. Can't do that. Because that's not your brand. And it's different. It's better to, Steph said this yesterday.

It's better to be positive than negative. 100%. Because it doesn't rot. It also doesn't rot at you a day to day life. I think being negative to that level, like, you know, you're still saying those words for an hour.

Like that affects you as a person. Like you still become more negative, even if it's a character. Like, it will affect you at the end of the day. What's tricky, though, is it's more profitable to be negative. Like,

it's more clickbait. Like it's, and that's what's interesting about, like the culture we're in is I see why people are gone to it. Legitently have a passion for what they're talking about. Sure. And whether you agree with the way that they're doing it or not, I don't a lot of the times, but when they go out and they're doing things and they legit think they're coming from the point of view.

But it does. That's why it goes back into the whole point where it does become political because you look at a lot of things, whether it is, whatever side it is. And it's so funny, these people often, again, not going into politics, because we are in a very left-wing. We're in bubble of sorts. And automatically you get you get jumped jumbled into that right sure I'm not a big huge like like super liberal I'm not I am not I am certainly not a right or right wing and I'm certainly I'm I'm I'm in the

I'm I'm in the middle I'm really am I'm in a place where I look and I like I would say that I'm more on like I have I'm not a like extreme left there's no there's no chance that I am I know I hang out with a lot of people who are right but you get lumped into it no matter what and I think people also Your zip code equals to some... No matter what. And I think the same goes for people on... Like, if you don't like something, you do get lumped into those people who hate something. And that's not fair as well.

But I'll tell you... But I'll tell you why that happens. Because people love to clickbait. People love to put it all in tweets. They're not actually expressing their opinion in a thought-out intellectual way. So then I can pinpoint and go, no, no, no, no. I said exactly what I said. And this is my point.

That's the problem. It's being able to... It's essentially what we're talking about here, and it's being able to express yourself. And the problem, again, I've said it a million times over, is freaking social media. Oh, dude, 100%. It's tribalism plus our TikTok attention spans,

plus all of our... Like, it's all combined in the first storm. Because I guarantee you, if there's no internet, right? And you take some people that we're talking about, whether it's with the hate channels, right? And you put them in a room. And I guarantee, even though you think right now, because you've seen their videos and I would never get along with that person.

You'd probably have a pretty good conversation with this person. some of these people and they're perfectly tolerable in the room. Right, because the thing is it's always about, it's just, it's, it's a survival thing on as far as making money for your family, as far as making funny. In general, on how you do it, whatever you, whatever niche you find, you stick to that lane. Yeah. And sometimes you can't get out of it. And that's actually, it's a problem with social media. It's funny we're talking about this now is I'm actually trying to like make sure we, we.

Why are you sinking out of frame, by the way? I got so angry. I know. I know. I know. I was super excited. I think what's interesting is like this show is more like what I'm trying and want to do is right. This is a show of discourse.

Like we all have a real conversation. And like we had that we had that talk when the studio changed over. It was like, okay, we got to watch talking to each other and over each other. But it's also like that's what the show is is a roundtable versus a pod show. So I think it's really interesting that like this is what I prefer more, long form, hour long. I don't love 30 second TikToks, but I have to do them for the job. But what's really interesting is like this is the only way to have discourse. You will never solve what you didn't like about something that you like that on Twitter.

No. Not or on a 10-minute thing. No, because the people become less, they don't become human. Right. And it's, it's because you can. No, because I could do it. Because right now, if I, if I called Winston the most horrible name in the world. Right.

He would do, he would either be upset or punch me in the mouth, right? One of those two things. Probably both. Right. Right. But if I, and I would take the repercussions of that and going, well, I just called this person a name. They punched me in the face and I have to answer. for my actions as opposed to

walk away. Right. I don't know how he feels. I don't care. I'm going to play baseball. Right. I don't care. I'm going to say,

you know what, buddy? You can't see their eyes. There's no consequences. I can't see your eyes when I say something to you. Right. You don't feel anything. It's a mix of not feeling anything and there being no consequences, which is also what makes you feel something.

Yeah. When you do something, like you go and if you right now, like you said, call me that name and I hit you or if you don't not that name, unname. N unname. I'm going to be very clear. I said, very clear. I'm going to be very clear.

I said, unname. I was thinking of cucumber head. Within five minutes, he's like, I'm not extreme left. And if I call you the name, I'm like, what's coming out in this episode of Gapes and Gals? Oh, man. Oh, man. I was going to have to quit a job. Hey.

He's getting real hot in this room. The studio is. It is the idea that there has been a lack of consequences. People have been allowed to just go willy-nilly and say whatever. Like you said, without that connection with somebody that takes something away and without the ability to face the things that you said, because then more words back at you from the internet don't mean anything. And that's why I think like She-Hulk, I mean, we've had a 10-minute conversation about this post-She-Hawk

because that's how exhausting the Marvel discourse. Star Wars has been bad a little bit. Marvel's been bad. A little bit. She-Hulk is accelerated. I'm trying to be kind. I love Star Wars. The fandom kills me, man.

It's been better. It's been better. It's bizarre because the Marvel thing, the reason why it had this connection for a long time where there wasn't a lot, mostly everything that, you know, minus, there was a DC pocket and no matter what they put out. Right. We're going to hate it. Right.

That's just part of the game. That's how it goes. But the Marvel fan base in general was connected and they were, they're on board for everything. And now it's starting to split up a little bit over the last couple of years. And that's what happened with Star Wars. Because before Last Jedi, I remember saying this. I remember saying, because DC was the first time I had ever seen anything like that on the internet. It was Man of Steel.

I loved it. Mark didn't like it at all. And Mark got destroyed. Everyone loves Mark. Yeah. And Mark got destroyed. And I was like, what is this weird thing? Yeah.

I've never seen anything like this. Is this just the DC? I was foreign to me. I never seen it. Ellis or Riley? Ellis. Okay. And I'd never seen anything like, yeah, because Riley sucks.

No. Nobody likes Riley. They're like, this guy. I just thought he's a Superman guy, so I thought he did like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but Ellis, Ellis didn't like it. And he got murdered for it, right?

And I thought it was just a one-off thing. I was like, ah, okay. And that was it, it was a 2012 or whenever. Yeah. And I never really saw anything like that. And then things started to move. And then Marvel and DC kind of went after each other a little bit. And the people, like, if you went after DC,

and I was like, oh, it's just a DC problem, right? Because I never saw it from everywhere else. And in Star Wars, I'm like, you never see this with Star Wars. I'm like, everybody loves it. It's like, you know, Force awake. And it was like doing that part when I was doing Jedi Council was fun because everybody was like holding hands and singing and running on the rainbows. And it was the craziest time. And I said, oh, this is never going to change.

And then after that movie came out. Yeah. And that's when like the political thing kind of happened too. I didn't. It was like, did you guys watch Saman? I've seen like more about how I've seen up until the restaurant. So you know when he comes back to his kingdom in the beginning? Yes.

And it's just like. It's destroyed. That's. That was Star Wars. It was the Star Wars language just in this. And I was like, what, what is this? Is there a way to prepare it? And there was no coming back.

And right now I don't feel like we're, we'll never be pre, in game again. No, no, no, no, because that's, because that's where we are. The world is in a place right now. It isn't. It's what I'm saying. Like, for people who realize, politics does leak in. Well, and these things, and I didn't want to interrupt earlier, but like, these things are inherently political, but that doesn't mean the discourse has to be political.

Yeah, it's always been that way. But that's what I'm saying. Comics are political. And art is political. Star Wars, yeah, it's literally about fascism. It is in the name. Star Wars. Wars.

A war is political. Star Wars. I see what they did there. And I will say this. Someone asked, they didn't scream. They said, well, why are they making this about politics now? And why are they making about this about politics and this fascism? I go, because Star Wars, the emperor was based off of not just Hitler, but regimes and

fascism in general. Those suits should look familiar, like a lot of things. They're called Stormtroopers. Yeah. So they were called in Germany. Stormtroopers. They just like, sometimes George Lucas is like, uh, copy paste. Like, and that's, that's okay because it's an important story to tell. But that's, that to me is why my, the discourse I get the most excited about with media is about the themes and what's going on there. And it doesn't necessarily mean that we have to go full blown. Now we're going to talk about everybody's like ideals and all that kind of stuff. But again, the reason why I like, Star Wars cool, laser swords, awesome.

But it is about like, it is about fighting that kind of imperialism and things like that. That's the reason why I watch it over and over again, not just because of the cool special. That's why I love Andor. That's why I love Rogue One and Ander. Because it feels like I can connect to the war. And that's what I was always interested in. And look, I get tired a lot of times like because, you know,

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I get that. And so Kristen has these are this very... This is 73 years old. I don't even know. 170. That's why... That's why I keep bringing up slavery because I was there, baby.

Anyway, that took a turn. Yeah, we've said, our name. We've been on an edge today. On an edge. Name. Oh, Lord. No, but real talk.

So Kristen has like this full skincare routine. And I was like, man, that's wild. And she was like, are you, are you for real? Like, and I was like, look, again, Black Do you, I'll be fine. She's like, you think so. Right. But you're stressing out and it's going to. Oh, dude.

I age so much the pandemic. And I looked at pictures before. I'm like, I need a skincare. Absolutely. She got me to start. Because like every time I've been on set, they've been like, oh, you have very like good natural skin. But I'm noticing slowly, I'm noticing the bags and stuff like that.

And so she's gotten me to do the stuff like this. This sounds awesome. I'm definitely going to go look into it. And specifically for dudes, so please go and check it out. And for you guys out there, people are asking all the time, first of all, if you've contributed to the studio at all through the wish list, thank you. If you're a patron, thank you. If you've left a comment, if you've left the like, thank you.

No matter what it is that you've ever done a super chat for SEM Live, anything. Thank you. But a lot of times people go, well, how can I help the show? Well, you can also help the show by helping yourself. Just go and if you want to try this stuff, you go use that link. in the description, get yourself a discount, and then tell me what you think of it. And if you like it, then they come on back. It helps the show and it helps you.

And that's the other thing that I've been doing that I've been, we keep getting, we're getting new sponsors all the time because I made a, I made a vow in the beginning of this. And I said to myself, okay, well, we're only going to get stuff that we want to, that we love it. Yeah, like we just got excited. Like that, authentically. Because that's the whole point. Right. Because they'll tell you right away.

Like, you don't care about this stuff. Yeah. They know like, I love this stuff. I'm getting old. Yeah, I like it. It's helped me out. And so that's what I'm hoping. I noticed, man, your bags are going away.

They're getting better. Yeah. It's because I've been using this stuff. But, um, anyway, and I will say this. You guys notice, you see Hulk up there and on the shelf in the back there, we got some stuff. And I have to say, where's Winston? That's the belt. But there we go.

Uh, you can't see it up there. Yeah. It's still, you take, take, yeah, be careful with that one. Yeah, be careful with that one. Um, that's so sick. Yeah. So that's, then Gentle Giant sent us a bunch of these, man. They were like, hey, listen, and they're fans of this show.

That's fantastic. These are gorgeous. Yeah, and they, and they reached out and they said, hey, would you guys, because for Shmose years ago, they were, they were on board. And I hadn't talked to them in a little bit. And they've been watching capes and cowls. And they said, would you, would you, they sent me this list. And I just, I sent him a bunch.

I was like, hey, you know, just throw a whole bunch of things at the wall. Yeah, it sticks. And, dude, dude, the amount of stuff that they sent me. Dude, like, do it again. Incredible. I know, do it again. it's awesome it's it's it i'm telling you i would like to have these entire shelves with gentle giant stuff this is like their stuff is so good they have one that they didn't send that what was it john wick

oh i'm crossing my fingers yeah but i hit see but but look that bruce lee one in the penny i mean it's brett and i were in here like opening them up uh that's canaan man canaan jaris from rebels and i got it they sent me an extra on i'm giving it i'm giving it to freddie oh and i get and i have and i have a bocatan that they sent me for katie that i'm going to give her all that's awesome Oh, that story. I've told it a few different times. So you see the cowbell up there? Yeah, yeah.

So, got to have more cowbell. But so I was on a, I remember what episode it was. There was some show and we were talking about the studio and someone was like the studio looks great. But it needs more cowbell. And I said, don't tell me. I'll put that on the Amazon list. And I put it on the list and within 15 minutes in water.

But there is, there is stuff on the list right now. I'm trying to think of it. It looks great. Yeah, there's one more thing we're going to, because we have these LED lights. Brett, we realized we got to. we got to add another set back here because I'm a little, like you look at me here, where is it, it's a little dark right there. But we're working on it.

I mean, I'm telling you, look at that. Look at that studio. What this looked like before and what it looks like now. Look at that backdrop wall. Look at the TV. I mean, this is like, it was not six months ago that we were facing the other direction, hoping for the best. It looked like a Skype call.

Yeah. People were like, are you guys actually in the same room? People didn't even know we were here. And it drove me crazy. I drive 48 minutes. It better be. It better be. It's true.

The way, the way you be. you sit in the mob days it feel like two hours bro oh no it does for me too i'm gonna try to get to a few of these um i want to try to get to a few of these stories if we can before we let you guys go yeah we get you the hell out of here um let's get not that one there it is okay so sandman we'll do let's see if there's sandman star man is unhinged shield there's a lot of shield let's just we'll do the sandman story then we'll get out of here the sandman author neil gammon explains why a potential reason two announcement is taking so long. If I was to guess, it's because someone else is going to buy it.

Despite steaming, I don't think it's steaming. I think it's streaming over a month, right? Steaming is a totally different hour of course. They want to make sure it's nicely welcome. Netflix has yet to reveal whether the Sandman will be returning for a second season, and Neil Gaiman has now expired while any potential announcement is taking so long. The Samman has performed very well for Netflix, but was it a big enough hit for the streamer to renew the Neil Gaiman adaptation for a second season,

We know that various other factors contribute to the decision to give one of its shows another run, the number of people who binge watch the entire season. But the longer we go without an announcement, the more worried fans get. Recently, Saman was not listed on the upcoming fan event. This was followed by what's on Netflixcom, revising its original likely prediction to give the show a 50-50 chance. So what did Neil say? Neil says, Samman's season when dropped on the fifth, the date, excuse me, the data harvesting has only just finished and is complicated by a lot of people not binge-watching it,

but spreading it out, letting episodes sink in before watching the next. Certainly the case for me. Yeah, it's not a big. I'm still on, like, episode five. I had a homie that watched it in a weekend, and I was like, I don't know how. This is very dense. Like, I like, I like, I like, I need time, you know. And I'm part of the problem because I want to watch it and, like, commit to it,

and I haven't had time to sit and watch anything. Like, I haven't sat and watched a show that I want to give it my attention to. So I think this show will get picked up. I don't know whether it's Netflix. If it doesn't get it by Netflix, someone else, somebody ever ever ever ever. Someone else will get it. You have, because it has an audience. Huge.

It has an honor. Number one five weeks worldwide. That's what I mean. It's huge. It'd be stupid for them to let it go. But if it's expensive for them and they're cutting stuff left and right, I would understand Netflix cut it. But someone will get it.

Discovery. Yeah, but what I'm telling you, go, go back. Go back. They got to get rid of binging. Netflix has to get rid of it. It has to go. It sounds like they are, though. There was a news report that just came out recently that they are hardcore re-looking at that model.

It doesn't want. Because they're realizing that it has been hurting them too much. Majorly, And you look at it like Cobra Kai. Not in a conversation now. It was in a conversation for four days. Yep. That's the time.

It took people to watch nine episodes. So my podcast guy who I talked to all the time, I told him I had all these interviews. He's like, well, you should do them like the first week and then don't do any more Cobra Kai interviews or anything. I'm like, I don't want to talk to like, I'm talking to Sholo about coming in. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, but nobody's talking about Cobra Kai at that point. I'm like, that sucks because everybody should be like.

Imagine right now if we had on Game of Thrones and or Lord of the Rings, she, Hulk and COBRA Kye all weekly. Yeah. You know, like, and then, and if Sandman was weekly, huge. Way, way back. And that's more of the shows digested and like, digestion really. Because the other thing about it, too, is nobody likes to be late on stuff either. So there's a point where it's like, I miss that window and I don't.

I haven't. Cobra Kai is one of my favorite shows on TV, Hard Stop. And there's a hundred shows on TV. I have not started COBRKai because I didn't watch it the first two days. So now I'm like, I got time. Yeah, and there's other things you have to cover right now. I'm working. Right.

So, like, Cobra Kai gets pushed the back burner. And that hurts them in the long run because of the media aspect of it, right? So, like, you know, when it comes to, like, my I always bring my friend up, like, John Pinto. If John Pinto is a Cobra Kai fan, you can watch it, whatever. He doesn't care. Right. But if I need Coyandro to watch it because I need him to cover it as a creator, it's over because he's covering other stuff weekly right now. And you don't get that coverage from a different perspective.

House of the Dragon, if that was a binge, I would be so upset because of the idea of, like, I just sitting there and going, oh, no, what's going to happen next? And the politics is fun to discuss week to week. Like the chess pieces like Sandman. Like, I mean, I haven't seen it, but I've read it. So, like, that's chess pieces. Yeah, Netflix did that, though,

when they were the only game in town. Right. I think it's time to switch. It's time to go back. It's time to go back. Stranger Things would have been way more than that two bundles. Oh, easy. That would have been huge.

No, no, no, no. I just, you were talking about Sandman. I mean, just in the vein of capes and cows, man, both the, how far are you? Five or six episodes. Okay. So you saw the Satan fight. Yes.

Which I thought was brilliant. Yes. And then did you see the restaurant? The one where he has the, the Ruby and the restaurant and like all the different people? Because that episode is insane. I think so. I got to go back.

I won't spoil it for you. That's my promise. I forgot that I watched them all. Boom, boom. And I was like, oh, yeah, this other stuff. I got to cover. And I let it. I got to rewind.

I loved it. I loved it. All right. Anyway, listen. What a show today. It was. So it was She Hulk and other things, life. And we hope.

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