The Kristian Harloff Show - SHOGUN OR FALLOUT? Which is the best show of 2024 so far?!

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

The two most talked about television shows of 2024 have been Shogun and Fallout. Which is the best of the two so far? Does the binge vs week to week strategy help or hurt the arguments for either? Tv shows and talking about the NY move and interesting dates. All on today's show with Kristian and Roxy!

How's it going, everybody? Welcome back. It's Thursday, Thursday, Thursday. The good news is that I was going to make sure that we had a conversation today, similar to the one that we had last week, and I had every intention to do that. And Brett and Roxy were going to be here to have that conversations. We're going to have a good time, just kick back, continue the conversation that we had, which was the main topic that you clicked on, most likely. And that is, Shogun or Fallout. What is the best show? thus far of 2004. So we were ready. We were ready to go. Brad can't be here. So it's me and

Roxy. So that's fine. I think what we're going to do is we're going to have a conversation about that very topic. We'll come up with a few other things, I'm sure. But then we're just going to have more of an organic conversation close to what we had last time. And we'll just kind of shoot the shit. I know people were wondering what's going to, what was going on. I saw a few comments about Roxy's neighbor and what the latest is there. There was definitely a, there was something that kind of not bookended the whole story, but there was a big addition to the story last week that we lost in the lost episode, but then there's even some more stuff going on. And I'm not even going to tell her to say anything.

I'm just going to show you the expression on Roxy's face when I bring up her neighbors at the moment. This is where we're at with that. Yeah. So we're going to have a lot to talk about with Roxy Stryor. So it'll be me and Roxy. If you're brand new to the channel and you've never been here before, make sure that you click that subscribe button.

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Here we go. What's up, everybody? Welcome back. Thursday, Thursday. It's myself. Roxanne Stryer. Rock on the hat. Yeah, I'm a hat, girl now.

I don't like the hat itself, but I like the way you look in the hat. Does that make sense? Thank you. Yes. Yeah. Listen, hats are underrated. I never wear them on here because there's too much shadow, but you always wear a hat. So I was like, I'm going to try it.

Oh, okay. Try and be like you. I don't know why anyone we want to do that. So we'll see about that. Yeah, smooth. Right? I mean, you can be as smooth as you want because they don't know. They don't know.

Here's the only thing you can't be smooth about. When you delete an episode that we did. No, nothing I can do about that. That was a disaster. The reason it's such a bummer is because, and not to make the audience feel bad, but there are these shows every once in a while. I love every show we do, but there are these shows every once in a while where you walk away and you're like, that was just such a good use of time. Right. And this was one of them where I really felt like I had a lot of questions about your move and your next step and your career and what you're going to be doing there from stand-up comedy to the actual show to.

who you're going to be working with, to the movie reviews afterwards, like genuine questions. That you and probably a lot of the audience has. That I had, that I hadn't asked you as my friend. Right. And now three people have seen that and will only see it.

Yeah, and I was just, when you sent the text and I was like... Do you think I was messing with it? You did it first, right? Yeah, because a big theme of the episode was Brett messing with me. That's right. So I thought you were messing with me.

I know. And I was like, nope, not this time. I think you wrote April Fool's question mark, which was only. No, it was a stupid. I tried to clear my computer. I put everything in the trash. And instead of waiting to see if I had everything first, delete the trash first. And then go, oh, I need to edit my episode.

So what was the reaction when you realized it's gone? No. No. I'm like, come on. And I spent hours trying to recover it. People give you like the turn it on and off. The other thing that people kept saying. I know I saw on Twitter people were like, did you try to after your trash?

And I was like, that's the first thing I did. I was, okay, you've watched him for over a decade and you guys have deciphered that he's a moron? It's like, well, that's the problem. When I put something like this in there, they have the right to feel that. Because it, because someone was like, you shouldn't be around tech. And I'm like, that's not rare because I've been, I've taught myself this whole damn thing. Brett's not even here and you're running it. No, but he never does now.

I'm just saying, you set the cameras. All that stuff. Yeah. I've taught myself a ton of stuff and things I didn't know and know how to certain things. That was just the move of me, again, being tired, moving stuff around and trying to clear the camera, because one of the things that you'll see is, right, and that's something I've got to fix. It's like the frame rate's a little off on one of the cameras and I've got to fix it. I've got to mess around with that, but I don't want to do it now.

But that was what I thought it was. It has nothing to do. The honest answer is I didn't even need to clear anything because the new computer has tons of memory on it. It's not that. It's the frame. You were just moving quickly. Yeah. And I was trying to, I was doing, I was back in the mode of the old computer where you got to get

all this storage clear in order for it to move the right way. But this is the frame. It's going to fix something in the camera. But I was like, ah, I didn't save it. And I should have saved it to this drive that I normally save it to. And I lost it. Such a wolf. It really is.

Yeah. That's a bummer. Today, I was in therapy this morning. Oh, yeah. And there's been so much technology that's been. going on wrong in my life, not just technology, but like, I told you that the valet broke the inside of my car door. Yes, you did.

Oh, I told you last week, so maybe they don't know. $3,000 to fix a door, just like so many things. All right. We got into that whole thing where Brett was. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. But my computer wasn't working. My phone has been having issues. My battery is dying. Like just so many tech issues. and my, I was just talking, and Papa's hearing aids went out,

like just so many things. Yeah. And I'm very much so working with my therapist all the time on radical acceptance, which is they're not getting so mad at things that you just have to accept and deal with because it doesn't help to have these crazy emotions that go along with it.

So in previous times, if I learned I had deleted an episode, I mean, that's like a, this glass is going across. across the room. Like I'm flipping. I just get so heated. Yeah.

And I'm trying really hard to just what it is. If you know it is what it is and you just have to accept what it is and keep it position. I think that's youth also. Yeah, for sure. Because like I remember when we did S-E-N when we were starting, and things, and Kate did that impression. I lost my mind.

The one thing, I wouldn't, I wouldn't get as mad as that. What happened? When we first started S-E-N-Live, there were like these cords and drives and all these things were happening and the frame rate was terrible. We were coming and I was like you guys were still on the air and you were going it was like the first show that I was going against

you were doing Clyde Live. And it was my first show going up against Clyer Live and people were and I'm like okay here we go is our first show and because you guys were employed you know getting you had a fixed rate. Everything was

making a lot of money. But my point is that everything was riding I got you, but I don't even know what you're talking about, though. So what happened? Yeah, so I was stressing out, and I was kind of before we went on the air, I was like, I went, oh, my God, this is it. We're not going to be able to do this, blah, blah, blah, blah. And Kate did the impression that people still talk about, which is later.

She's like, right before, she said, yeah, he's calm now, but right before here. And he's like, I wasn't yelling at anyone in particular. You know, this is unbelievable. We're going to be fucked blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, it doesn't, as you said. And you were pissed at Kate for doing the impression? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. I wasn't mad at anyone in particular except again you're just yeah it's like this this is the time

this is shit and so that particular kind of reaction maybe a couple years ago I've been like but I but it was like what am I going to do like what am I going to do it is nothing I can do about it is I try to recover the file realize it was a stupid thing and now I got to figure out how do I replace it so instead of I had Chris Carr and Winston already coming in to do capes for Friday I'm like, well, I don't want to do a whole new show with me now and then put it up. I'll just use the show. I just taped with them, put it up on Thursday, and then I'll record something for Friday. Or do you record?

From Friday, it was just a single show with me? How did it do? Is it fine? Cool. Yeah, exactly. I didn't know. I know. It did fine.

I know. Well, you still, it's not like you didn't, you guys both get paid for that episode. Yeah, I know. It sucks. It's a bummer. The thing is, as everybody knows, like, there's two, elements to what we do, right? There's number one, of course, you have to make a living of some kind, but number two, you use these things to be the biggest that you can be. And when you, when you

film things, it's like filming a movie that you get paid for, but then nobody sees it. Right. Half the payment is people seeing it. Totally. Yeah, I know. Not that that's the point, I'm just saying. No, of course it is. It's like, in essence, we're performers, right? And that's like you want to say, okay, well, we had a really good, like you said, that was a really good use of time. Remember what Brett said at the end of the conversation? No. Okay, so this isn't, I mean, you guys aren't going to fully understand this because you didn't hear the conversation. But essentially, just to give you guys the spark notes, Christian and I were talking about what he was going to do back in New York.

And he was telling me about the new studio and telling me about how we're going to do it digitally to make it look sick. And he was also telling me that there's more of a local stand-up place that he might want to go to. You can hold some of this. We can ask these questions. Okay, so I will, but just giving you guys the brief whatever. And Christian and I just like looking at each other back and forth, back and forth, like we were at a bar shooting the shit. And then I think at some point Christian realizes Brett hasn't said anything in like longer than normal for Brett.

And looks at Brett and was like, if you're good? And Brett was having like an absolute internal meltdown. Like a breakdown in the middle of it, right? He was like, I don't mean to laugh. But clearly what something about it. triggered him about maybe the stand-up portion of it. It was stand-up. That's what he said.

And he said, thinking about doing things, he goes, this makes no sense. He's the one talking about stand-up, and I'm the one getting stressed out about it. And he was having, like, a straight-up meltdown. Yeah, right. Really, I feel for him. And that's the kind of stuff you can't recreate meltdown, especially when he's not here. So I think that what we're going to try to do is Roxy is an excellent, excellent interviewer. We know that already.

And I put a full question out because, as I told you, guys yesterday, I am going to be working with a talent booking company, meaning that they're going to get some guests on this show. You told them before you told me. Wow. Yeah. I told you I was talking to them. Yeah.

But it's official. It's official. So we're working on getting more guests, and that's why I ask people. Yes, go ahead. I went on my first date this week. Remind me about that. We'll talk about that also. I'm asking everybody about this now, too.

So anyway, well, what we're going to do is I put a list on for the, the audience on both face on my Facebook and on the YouTube community about guests that they'd want to see cool and anybody commented yet any names that you're liking they were I mean there are a lot that were on there already because I made a wish list and gave it to the company right there were some that were there were a lot on there that I definitely had on there the other ones I thought were pretty good there was what a shoot Steph came up with one yesterday that I thought was oh um Jennifer Coolidge which is a good one so great it's a really good one I hadn't put that one on there so that's one that I'm gonna put on really I'm gonna add that to the

list I'm so curious what she would be like in a room I'm sure I'm very curious to see that one and then love her me too love her there's some other ones but someone had said can you get someone from the crew to interview you before you leave and I said well Roxy did that last week but oh so maybe we can just for you guys except for you guys everybody saw it except you guys so maybe we'll do something like like that before. What we'll do is we'll have our, we'll have our topic today, right? We'll, we'll get into the whole conversation of Shogun and fallout. And then we can, and then you can ask me whatever you, I want to hear about your date and your neighbors.

And then you can ask me any questions that you want. So that'll be our show for today. Ooh, it's a good one. So if I have guests, let's see, I think you know this ready. And I've been asking, so so far, let's say, Roka didn't get it. Steph didn't get it. Who you're, who the number one is? If I can only have one guest, if someone was like, you can only have one guest. Julie Roberts? See, Roxy knows me, guys. Oh.

Roksy knows me. There we go. Who's the guess? Steph had a good guess, Arnold or Stallone. I mean, definitely, if you could have three, four, five. All three of them together, it would be amazing. But, like, I've actually interviewed Stallone. So I've done that.

It was shorter, but I'd love to have, like, a long hour long with him. Are you kidding? I think. I told you I had dinner with him once. I feel like you did tell me that. It was with Kevin? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did tell me that.

He, like, held court. It was so cool. That's cool. It was so cool. I feel, though, out of the three of those, as much as Julia Roberts is my number one out of the three of them, I feel like my best interview would be Stallone. The conversation would go the best with him.

Arnold would be second and she would be third. Because with Arnie, are you going to try to do impersonations a whole time? The whole time, no, but I would definitely do. Who did the ones? Who did a guest? Roka, who did he guess? I can't remember who he guessed, but it wasn't, it wasn't, the audience guessed it. But, yeah, it would be, Arnold would be great because it's like, hey, listen, I'd be honest with you.

Okay, no. Come on. I think the very, I think you're amazing. And I'm going to just talk to you this way. I just watched Terminator the other day with my 12-year-old, and she loves it. She did not like the CGI, but she liked you. She's a very scary. I think he'd like this.

I think he would think that was fun. No, no, no, but if you opened, okay, let me ask you this. I don't know why this is just popping my head, but it popped in my head, this is my question for you. You have to answer it. You can't answer it. You got one question to the Pope. What do you got? Are aliens real?

Tell me about the Vatican. Tell me about the Vatican and what was going on with the potential of the UAP that there's documented cases? 100%. That's a good one. Yeah, no doubt. How weird would it be to interview the Pope? What if there's like your first one's like, hey, we couldn't get you, Julie Roberts, we'd get you the Pope.

You'd have to say yes, right? But I am going to be doing interviews here and in New York, which is great. I already have, you know who one of my favorite people in the world is right now? See if you can guess this. Josh Horowitz. Yes, not the person I was going with, but he is one of my favorites, so that is a correct answer. He is one of the people who is helping me out in New York. That's what I thought.

Yeah, it's a great, a great guess. also a really good guess. Give me an arena. You're in the arena. You're in the arena. You're picking people that they're all in the, none of that was a wrong answer, but not the one I was thinking of. Your wife. She's not in that arena.

I'm just saying, you see my very brain in the world. But she's not in that. I'm talking about for this, for this particular, newer person that I'm in. Chris Van Bleet. Good dude. He is becoming a very close friend now. Yeah. I mean, he, his.

interviews absolutely annihilate and his social media game is on that and he just he he's a very very positive person he's a very very helpful person we've been helping each other out and stuff he he had done this he does this thing where he helps out new creators and he and he asked me to come in and talk to people and i did and it was it was great um and we've been having conversations and i'm telling them i told them about that i'm bringing on someone to help me book talented you know get interviews because that's one of the i get that a lot from the audience is like you really good in interviews, how come you don't do more? And it's like, and we talked about it. The game of getting people is, it's not for the faint of heart of trying to book people on your own.

Just not. Also, there are 24 hours in a day. And if you do that, then there's so many things you cannot do. That's right. And it's, and it's not as simple as, hey, I'd like to have so on, so on. There's a game you got to play, especially, that's why you have people who do it for a career. Because they have connections. They do certain things. And they're like, okay, if we give you this person, And then you got to talk to this person too. And how about this thing? There's a game that's played. Yes. And so, and I would put those texts and emails into publicists and make moves in certain times.

It was like, like, peep behind the curtain. I was in conversation to try to get Paul Giamatti on for the UIP show because he's into it. And it was going somewhere. And then he didn't win the Oscar. And they were like, he's taking a break from now. That's totally understandable, of course. What about Brad Gilmore? He books crazy guests.

He does too. Holy crap. He uses ESPN and stuff too, I think, because of what he's got. So there's also there's. But I have that part now. I've got cover. Okay, cool.

I've got the cover. But Chris Van Lee. Well, for a lot of different reasons, but this particular reason is that, so one of the things that I'm going to be doing before I leave, I'm going to be doing interviews. Like if I get, if they book me guests here in L.A.,

I have a studio that I will be shooting the interviews at. How often you're going to be here? I'm talking about until I leave. I'm talking about until I leave. I'm talking about for all time. We'll talk about that afterwards. We're not there yet. I'm there.

But we're not there yet. So I'm going to be in. I live there. Stop this. We're going to be in L.A. doing a couple. So let's say if I get two guests in May, I have a studio where I'm going to shoot those things. It's the same place that Katie just dropped a, KSack, I just dropped an interview that we did with Mingnau Went. and that studio will be where I'm shooting my stuff.

Then I was like, well, I don't have a place. Why don't you want to shoot it here? It's a disaster right now. I mean. It's a disaster. That's like three boxes. Listen to this. Listen to this.

Honey, listen to this. Honey, listen to this. Listen around. First of all, I reverted to you. I felt like I was talking to my wife because I said honey. But like this. I love honey. That's one of my favorite things that friends call me, though, because sometimes I'm like, all right, honey, come on.

Yeah, I was like, honey, come on. So this stuff will get worse and worse. So I can't have people here. It could get better and better, though, because isn't studio space so expensive? I've got a good setup. I've got a good setup. So, but New York, I'm setting up my own studio where I am, but it's from where I'm going to be. It's not going to be easy to get somebody, like if they're in the city to come to me.

So Chris has a hookup in the city of a space that I can use. So he's like, no, I'll hook you up. I get this. And he's got other devices. Oh, yeah, he has that Vegas hookup, too. He's got a lot of different hookups. And he's just, and so he is, and he and I are going to be doing some more stuff. But Josh Horwitz is someone that I will be doing more stuff within New York also.

So, but we'll get to all that. We got more stuff. The other thing, which will lead back to the guest conversation. Is that you want me doing them with you? Okay, fine. Twist my arm. Maybe. No, but a story I told last week that I've told a million times over that I told you the first time, I think, last week, was Sarah Silverman. Yeah, which now they don't know.

I think that they know that story for the most part. I'll tell it again because the good news is. Is Sarah Silverman one of the guests? She's on the list. I would lose my mind. So I got off the, as I was getting off the phone with the, because they asked, you know, they're asking questions about guests and stuff too. I'm going to, oh, you know what? Before I get off the call, I just want to tell you guys a quick story about one of the people why they're on my wish list. And I told them the Sarah Silverman's like, oh, that's easy. We know Sarah pretty well. And so fingers crossed there on that one. Because that's, that to me, we'll get into that story. So I'm, I'm excited about that because of the, just because of the history of it, the history for me, not for her. But I'll, but I'll tell that story in a little bit. But, all right, we have. Oh, I love her.

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Yeah, really, really and truly. And I remember I came to you. It was a year ago then. Was it a year ago already? It was a little more than a year ago. Wow. What's that a year? And I was in serious need of help.

Yeah. And I'm not saying that therapy is like a one-stop shop cure-all. Like you have to do a lot of different things. But what it does do is hold you accountable every week and give you tools in your shed to use when it feels like you have nothing that you can do. Right. I just, I think she specifically my therapist, but I'm sure that that's what it's like because this is the first. It's not like I had to shop. Right.

They assigned me one based on I kind of filled out like what was going on. And then they pick somebody for you that specializes in things that are happening to you. Yeah. So I didn't have to like in the past where I've had to meet with so many people. And then they're like, no, I don't do that. No, I don't know about that. No this. It was already done.

And so because of that, it was like just really great and a great match. So and that's kind of why. And that's why I always mentioned even when I just ran the promotion. for them is that I always mention you in it. Yeah. You obviously gave me permission to do that. But it's because it works. And so that's why

I say regardless of whatever it is, I truly, maybe someone out there actually knows me. Most of you don't really know me. You watch me on the show and I'm, I don't tell you bullshit when I say, when people say, hey, do you feel

that this is right for your show? I only say yes to the ones that I think you guys are going to like and obviously Roxy is is one of the piece. So all right let's get back into what we were talking about last week. What we ended the show with that will kind of

be the main topic of the show itself. That is... Did you forget the name of Shogun? Both Fallout and Shogun. So these are two shows that everybody was talking about. Now one of the conversations that came up last week in the forgotten episode or lost

episode rather was that the streaming versus you know, the binge model. Do that again. One of the conversations that came up on the

lost episode was the binge model versus the week to week episode and whether or not that hurt. I did a poll on my live episode that I did with Roka

on what people prefer week to week or binging. What do you think won and what do you think the percentages were? Week to week and

maybe Maybe 66 to 33? 75% week to week. And one of the conversations that we had... I wonder if it affects how many people actually do you. I wonder because what the conversation was on Monday, though, Roxy, was the fact that one of the showrunners, wasn't Nolan, but one of the showrunners who talked about Fallout and the reason why I couldn't disagree with this person's comments more. What they say?

essentially saying that they looked into it and realized that nobody does event watching like week to week anymore and doesn't and doesn't really do that well and that it wasn't something that it wasn't like how it was back in the day a point viewing it wasn't and i want to get the actual quote right let me see if i can find it okay yes so this was some of the this was when they who did they talk to they talked to co-writer and showrunner graham wagner who said we were on either side of it at various points of the conversation, because I think we're all trying to decide how to do this in that sort of new normal. Part of it for us was, we're missing our must-see TV night. Sunday night was a great night to come out, and even if you didn't like one of the shows,

you might watch because there were four shows sort of lashed together and really sort of ritualized. I don't know what night we would have chose if it was going to be weekly. I know Disney's doing Wednesday night at midnight. I don't know if that, as a viewer, if that's working for me. It's not appointment viewing to stay up until midnight

and watch Asoka or whatever it is. I want to watch those shows, but yeah, until one of those streamers takes a night and claims it, I think the binge model is going to persist. A quick search across media outlets reveals a bunch of recap and article writers pushing for weekly releases in the belief it generates more discourse.

Wagner points out there are advantages and disadvantages to going weekly. Listen, you can go either way and I think some fans love the bingeable model. Then, when certain shows are released weekly anyway, it can keep the show right because there's the discourse of course. That's what we were after.

Sometimes with a show like this, the discourse can backfire, and then, you know, you see your end coming. I think someone a long time ago said there's no writer's room that can compete with Reddit. It's like 10,000 geniuses working 24-7. They're going to get ahead of you. So I think in the sort of eight-episode model, binging works quite well. So I just feel like those comments were off. Yeah, they're definitely off. And I was like, okay, you said that was Graham Wagner who said that. So I look to see what is he done before because those comments to me sounded like somebody from the movie world coming into the TV world.

But I have to tell you, his projects that he's worked on, he was the co-executive producer of Baskets, the co-executive producer of Portlandia, the co-executive producer of Silicon Valley, and then this. So I think that those are different, but he does come from the TV world. I, it's always hard to me when I hear executives say things that I am so positive or not true because I'm a human being who's a consumer. Right. And sometimes I feel like because they're so married to their stats and they're Googling, they forget that they are a consumer themselves. What would you rather?

Think about you. Think about the people around you, how they like to consume. Right. It's human nature to want to have that water. cooler conversation, like something like a Game of Thrones where you every week, week to week, are talking about, did you see that? Did you see that?

As opposed to what we've seen from things like Ozark or Stranger Things that are amazing shows, and the conversation dies so fast. Super fast. And when I was talking, one of the pushbacks on the Monday show was like, because I said no one's really talking about Fallout that much anymore. And so as

people are still talking about it. The people who really liked it and the fans of it, sure, maybe you're still discussing it here and there, but it's not in... It's not talked about like Shogun. Because it was every week, right? And that's the whole point. It could have been.

It could have been if it was week to week, because it would only be in like week three or week four right now. So it would have, Shogun would be over right now, and the conversation would be pushed upon Fallout right now. Also, not only would it only be week three, but I will tell you, I finished Shogun... Sorry, I finished Fallout before any of my friends had started. It's not Because there was no momentum for it to build

Because it's still not the same Advertising model where you're sitting down With your family on a night You're watching commercials now you know what you're watching Most of my friends don't know when something's coming out They don't know something's coming out until people have watched it So when I was like oh yeah I watched all of fallout last night People were like oh the video game show

I didn't know that was out yet let me go ahead And it's like they're playing ketchup on something And by the time they go to watch it's already all it's Nobody's talking about it It's done. The conversation's over. And especially once you hit June. June, you've got House of the Dragon, the Acolyte, the Bear, and the Boys, all coming out in the same month.

That's wild. Acklite's going to be week, too week. And to push back, by the way, on those comments as far as Disney goes with Asoka, what I will say is they were doing that 12 a.m. thing, and it was atrocious. It was. They stopped. They started. Asoka was, I think, 6 p.m. and there was another show, another Marvel show that they'd, They also, I think it was Echo, maybe that they dumped.

That was a full dump. But whatever it was, there was something else that was at 6 o'clock. They've stopped because I think they realized that was a bad move overall. And they were probably, the reason why they did it is because of the overseas, less room for a crash, I guess, by doing it at that time. But either way, it looks like they stopped doing it. I don't disagree with the idea that if streamers start to pick, what is your day that you drop in your episode, right? Because when Netflix was doing, Netflix again, was the only game in town.

So they could, you know, binge all of our stuff. Because all you were competing with was week to week. Maybe HBO. And it was the only thing you were binging. So even if all their networks were dropping things, you're like, oh, watch that week to week. Because this is going to be the only thing when Stranger Things first came out. When House of Cards first came out, you're like, oh, my God, nothing else. This is it.

I got to watch it. Right. Now they drop 15 shows a week that are the full shows. show bing. You lose so much, you lose so much momentum, and I think, but it doesn't take away

from the fact that you see, because to go to that, like I have gotten, I haven't finished episode one yet of fallout, but not because I didn't like it. I did, I do like it. I just have to finish it.

And then I think that as, as we were just talking about, like, Shogun, Shogun is on me. Shogun's on me. Like, I, I could have caught up with everybody

if I would have watched a few episodes and been in the conversation every week. That's on me. but Fallout, I don't have the time to binge a full thing. And so if I want to be part of that conversation, then you have to get a divorce and leave your kids. Like, what are you going to do? How am I going to do or just have a lack of sleep?

And I just can't do that. So I think the binge model was good when it worked. And I would love to go back to the old collier live days where we had this conversation of what we preferred. Do you know what I always said? I feel like the two of us were both on binge. I know. No?

I always from John Pips. I released three episodes and week to week. Yeah, that's been a lot of coverage. And I agree with that strategy because I think it allows people to get hooked in. And there are shows, and people will probably write this in the comments, and I'm not going to disagree with you, but I don't think fallout is one of them. There are some shows that should be dumped. I totally agree. I totally agree.

Echo was one of those. My reality shows, I have so much fun when they dump them, like the circle, which I'll talk about later. So fun because I can cook and clean and wander around while they're all. on and kind of tune in and kind of not. Right. You don't invest. It's great for them to dump them. And then I can watch the whole thing. Awesome.

And it's also not part of that thing where everyone's like, did you watch this this week? Prestige drama? No. Yeah, it should. Prestige drama is week to week. Drop two or three episodes and then go week to week. That is the best way to get buzz, conversation.

I don't understand. And I, because people didn't hear last week, nothing for nothing, I love Fallout. Well, that's where we're going to go with that now. Let's, because it should not take away from the quality of that show. Absolutely not, but if you ask me how I like episode four, I would say to you, I don't know what episode four was. Right. So that's why I think that, so let's start with this, because I, like, as I said, I'm, you'll be happy.

30 minutes into episode one of Shogun. Can I tell you something? Yes. I'm not happy. No? Let me tell you this. Yeah. Today, the main topic of the show is Fallout,

versus Shokun. Right. And you have not watched a full episode of either of them. That's why I have you. I know. Thank goodness you do.

Right. Otherwise I wouldn't have that topic. It's the most value I've ever brought to any show I've ever done. You're not lying. I know. But the thing is, I'm bummed because

there are certain things I want to say, but you're going to watch both these shows. Yes. And so I have to zip it. I've told, I told the story on the show yesterday. The Shogun one was my fault for a while, but now it's not.

No, it was for a while. Because. And still is. No, no. Because I was going to sit down and I had, on a Friday, I had some time. So my goal, this is actually, this is your fault. Because on a, it was a Friday after we did last, this Friday. Or maybe even Thursday.

Hell, it might have been Wednesday. Either way. It was right after we shot the Lost episode. And I, you told me that there's a love story inside a Shogun, right? So you tried to watch with your wife and she didn't like it? No, so listen, listen. So I said, okay, here's what I'm going to do. I told you that on the lost episode, I said, I'm going to do around three or four episodes and put them up on the channel and let people watch me, watch it, watch along with me.

Because people were excited that I was going to do that. Then you brought up the love story and the outlander kind of tie to it. So I pitched that to my wife. And she's like, really? It's like, all right, I'll give it a shot. So I was like, because if you don't like it, I said to her, if you don't like it, then I'm bailing on you. and I'm going to do it myself. So we started watching.

We were exhausted and we started watching the show and she's like, I'm not paying attention right now because I'm so tired and I know I need to. So let's get back to this. I'm like, do you still want to watch it? I'm not offended if you don't. I can do it.

I'm just like, no, I want to watch it. So now, see, it's not really my fault right now. That's so unfair to pit on me. I was just being honest with you. But you gave me a good pitch. Yeah. So it's your fault. You know what? I will tell you, though.

I don't want to tell you. Hey, Roxy. Oh, my God. Hey, Roxy. Someone told me that they sent a picture of me and you, a gift of me and you. And you didn't like it. I really didn't like that. You said, and I quote from what I heard anyway, from this dumb motherfucker,

that you hate that with every fiber of your being. Is that true? I would say that's accurate. Damn, girl, you crazy. Why? How come what I do to you? I love you, Roxanne Stra. I love you.

Because how would you like it if somebody sent you a gift of balls on your forehead? It wasn't on your forehead. Come on, it was bouncing in your hair. Hair and nuts. Nuts and hair. Everything's fair in the world of love. Not that it makes a difference, but I want to hear at home, whose team get rid of Chipmunk and whose team keep?

Oh, there's a lot of them. But I ain't going to no way. This I know. Yes, you are. Stupid little asshole. Get out of here. No one likes you. Roxie, I got your back.

Fuck this shit. It's all bullshit. That's my favorite. Anyway. A little something for everybody. Something for everybody. So back to this topic, though. Yeah.

Now, here it is. As we said on the thumbnail, as we said in the title. Quality. Not the conversation what we just had. Although it might be relevant, which I'll get to in a second. What's the better show of 2024? Is it fallout or is it showgun? Let's say Roxanne.

Well, let me address what you just said. It might be relevant. You know, Christian, when you go to a premiere in person and you have a great experience watching it, it does color your opinion on the show. So there is no separating how I viewed them. Because I'm a human, and it affects my experience. Every week, you're just looking forward to the next episode of Shogun. The anticipation building up of Shogun and the way that every episode ended with either a mini-cliffhanger or a full-blown cliffhanger was a brilliant thing that they did.

And it's part of the reason why Shogun undoubtedly to me as a TV fan. No question. No question is the best show of the year. Okay. That is a... I can't imagine somebody knocking it off. Unless Severance really does come out at the end of this. year. I cannot imagine a show being better than show gun this year.

Okay. Fallout, easily number two. That's exactly what Steph said. Easily number two. Easily number two. But do you think now, as I mentioned, if you had that buildup, hard to say, I know hindsight, but if you had that buildup for fallout from the way that it was structured, try to remember certain elements in the way that it ended and stuff. Do you think...

I'm trying to think of that because I almost feel like they knew that they knew that they were... they knew that they were doing this as a binge model as they wrote the episode. Okay. Because of the way that they are structured, the endings just roll through kind of. So I don't know that it would have been the same. Shogun was set up to be every week, this is your new Game of Thrones. It really was. But also, it's coming from, they both have IP that they're coming from.

So they both have something to lean on there. But with Shogun's IP, this was directly the book. With Fallout's IP, these are characters that are not in the video games that are invented for this show. Right. So they had a lot of heavy lifting to do in terms of creating not just the world, because a lot of the world had already been written about, but every dynamic with these characters, faults that we had not seen in the games. So I think that they had two different tasks, and they both perform those tasks to the highest ability they could. We just see more things like Fallout, right? Like we saw Silo, we saw any kind of apocalypse show, The Last of Us, Walking Dead, there are more things similar.

I've never seen anything like Shogun in my life, even though Shogun was made in the 80s as well. I didn't watch that series. Oh, was it just? Yeah, they created this mini-series. based on the book in the 80s. Apparently it was decent. Not like this. But I've never been taken in a show to 1600s Japan and dealt with historical elements with this unbelievable setting.

I've never seen anything like it at all. You know what's ironic about all this? Is that I'm going to wind up binging Shogun? I know. Which is hilarious. That is funny. Yeah. I will be watching both of them because I do, because because of this.

exact conversation of these are the two shows that everyone is talking about. I will say from the two episodes that I've seen, the fallout, the majority, I've seen more fallout than I've seen of Shogun, but Shogun seems a little bit more my style as much as I like Fallout, but Shogun seems to be the one that is going to be, okay, it is, as my wife said, it's going to be an investment, it's going to be, but I feel like the layers of the characters, the layer, the, fallout seems, and correct me if I'm wrong, but fallout seems a little bit more fun? I think that's accurate. Fallout has a very unique tone to it. That almost feels like you're, that it's like, um, spoof. No, you know, interestingly for real rejects, I watched this movie that I had

never heard of. I'm sure you have called Blast from the Past. Oh yeah, it was a Lish, uh, Brendan Fraser. Yeah, exactly. Um, it, Fallout has kind of like Pleasantville blast from the past tones to it, which is interesting because. The way that she carries herself for sure. It's kind of like the naive. Right. And like her catchphrase in the show is oked dokey, which is very much like that. But it takes place in the future.

Yes. 20, 70 something. Okay. Yeah. But it's got like a very... Supernatural elements and stuff too. It's got that fun, like in an apocalypse world, still we've got that the cool music and whatever. Shogun is gritty.

I mean, that show is gritty and intense. It is everything that any of the major fantasy shows are, but more grounded. Fallout could have a better career. Well, it seems like it's going to be the only show with a career. That's what Shogun. So we just covered this yet on yesterday's story show, was that the showrunners talked about Shogun. And they said it just doesn't make sense to do a second one because there's nothing in the side of that book. Even doing anthology would be hard to do.

And Fallout, I think that Fallout should, though, and not do this thing where they just think, nope, we made the decision to binge it. And that's what we're sticking with. No, they got a switch. Reach or switched. And I think benefited. Yeah, a lot. I think a lot of being successful in television right now is pivoting. It's knowing when to pivot, how to pivot, because it shows have been doing.

Pivot. Pivot. pivot even if you think about like go all the way back go to Sex and the City season one breaking up the fourth wall

have you ever seen Sex and the City? Yeah the first couple seasons The first season they break the fourth wall and talk directly to the camera and it's not good if you go back and binge it and you're like what and they were going

in the second season they're like we're not going to do that anymore that did not work then the show was wildly successful if they didn't make that change the show would not have been successful that's a huge change to make. Yeah.

Just when you're airing your episodes. Just know how to change things up. But if you can switch things up and you can switch things where the audience clearly like. Parks and Iraq. Another example. Well, but I'm just saying the smaller show that we put on. I guarantee you though, if you did a big poll, most people would say week to week.

There's a lot of binge people who are fans. And also the answers also depends on what it is, which is fair. But a show like that, if you ask directly, if you can. could have fallout week to week or binge. I think because the binge model, as you were saying, I think very well beforehand, it was kind of like the new thing that you, oh, I can get everything at once. And now it's like, I kind of want to build towards it, right? And that's why I think also why Disney did start putting these things out at 6 o'clock

as opposed to whenever it was. I mean, Game of Thrones is 6 o'clock. And that is a perfect example of the week to week. I would never want that show all in binge. I look forward to watching that show every week going, oh, what's next? Like, and or was it, go back to your example. Andor went two episodes up top because I think it allows you to hook them in. But I think that fallout could be a major contender because it doesn't,

because even though we're having this conversation at Fallah versus Shogun, it's like you take two fighters, right? And these two fighters are going to, two basketball players, we'll say rather, Two basketball players, and you're like, which player is better? Player A, player B. Player B had a much better season and was really just hitting threes. Yeah, but they're retired. Well, player A could be the best player of all time now.

Yeah. Because Player B is not even in the conversation. Yeah, and, you know, it's not even a fair comparison because they're two different genres and types of shows. Right. It's a way fair question to ask what's better the last of us or fallout. That's a good question, too, yeah. And I honestly have been thinking about what's the answer to that? Steph said fallout.

That was the question you guys asked? She just randomly offered that opinion, yeah. We're resumable sometimes. You know, I, the last of us was week to week as well. Yes, it was. And I was really looking forward to every week. Me too. So I feel like they're very evenly matched and fallout has a slight edge because of

recency bias. But I don't know. They're both really brilliant. shows. I think that's a fair fight. Putting up against Shogun is like... Yeah, it's just so different, right? Well, yeah. All right. So we are going to get into all that other stuff also.

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It's a nickname. This ain't working for you today. Anyway. Okay, let's get to your date. It got a little messy. That got messy when you were trying for the Vessie. But now I would ask about the date that Roxy went on, but I'd rather ask Bessie. Say lessee.

All right, let's not regressy. All right. Do you like checkers? of Chessy. It's going to keep going, huh? Checkers. All right, let's go. So, do we, do we have any,

do you have any hope with this guy? Let me ask you some questions about this. About what? About this guy. Oh, all right. Oh, man, I didn't text him back. That's not a good sign. I always know I'm feeling when I,

genuinely forget to respond. If you forget, you're not that interested. It's probably a nice guy. That's why. Okay, okay, okay. Let me actually think about how. to present this to you. Okay.

This guy's a nice guy and you're going to blow it, isn't it? I'm not sure. Let me present it to you. It's good that I'm good at this. Let me present it to you. Met on an app. Right. He, getting to the first date was very difficult.

He asked me out for last week. Then he was going out of town. I said the only time I can see you before you go out of town is Wednesday after 830. He said that was too late for him. He asked me if I could do this week on Tuesday. I said, yes, we made plans. He messaged me Friday. He said, sorry, I can't do Tuesday anymore.

Can you do Monday? I said, yes, on Monday morning, he said, how's 915 for you when he had already told me 8.30 was too late? I said, that's fine. You know, my car's in the shop. So I was Ubering to the day. I'm in the Uber. I get there at 910. He messages me at 910 and says, hey, can we do 930 instead?

I said, already here. He showed up at 930. so I had been there for 20 minutes. So, okay. So that to answer you, right. Like on the date, he's actually very nice, but it's hard for me to answer your question because all of that was very annoyed. That's going to stick in there.

Right. And I was trying to just let it go because I'm still going to the doing the dates. Yeah, of course. But that's your piss you off. Yeah, I was annoyed. And like, to the point where I was through with my first drink by the time he got there because I was 20 minutes sitting there, what was I going to do, not order? Yeah, so I'm kind of annoyed. Did he give you an excuse?

Why was it a good excuse? Like me, he's Jewish, so he was out of Seder, but I also, but you know those plans. Right. So, like, sometimes you don't know when something's going to run long, but you know, you know how long your Seder is. You'll have an idea. Listen, I have this and let me plan it out. So it wasn't planned well at all. No, I find it to be not planned well at all.

When I got to the place, I will say there was a reservation, so at least there was a place for me to sit. It wasn't like I was waiting. Okay. That's good. So when he got there, he was, and he's a doctor. Oh. He was very, very, like, oh, he wanted to move past quickly. Sorry, I'm late.

It's so nice to meet you. First thing he really harps on is, wow, you look really young. But didn't say it like a compliment, said it kind of like a concern. And I was like, thank you. How old is he? Not. He's in his 30s, so. And I said, huh.

And he was like, and I said, thank you. He said, no, you look really young. And I could tell there was something going on and I was just like I don't know where you I mean look for the podcast I'm glad that you have stories like this but for you I feel bad I was kind of like I said oh I have a good skincare routine I mean I don't look that young which he then asked me about which do you understand now why I show up in your life do you get it do you understand you're the worst of them okay so I that was kind of a weird bumpy start because I

the way he was looking at me was like he thought I looked too young for him and like I'm 32 years old I don't I'm not too young it was kind of weird okay so then the date was actually very fun

making sure Chris Hanson didn't show up or something Huh It's a predator? Oh what's his name? Chris Hanson isn't it? I don't know Chris when you said Chris Hansen I thought of the band Hanson No Chris Hanson Is his name Chris Hansen? Chris Hanson, so he's going to show up in the middle of it.

I thought you're making a mbop reference. No, no, not yet. So anyway, the date actually went really well after that point, except for he was so nice. The conversation was flowing. He was really funny. He made me laugh a lot. He asked a lot of questions, but his questions were very specific and strange. Such as.

So at one point, we're talking about my siblings because we were talking about his siblings, And he was like, are you guys close? And I was like, yeah. And he was like, are they married with kids? And I was like, oh, my brother's married. My sister's five years younger. She's not married. But honestly, like, she is the catch of all catches.

She's recently out of a relationship. And I just, I so badly just want her to, like, fall madly in love and have as many kids as she wants. And he said, sounds like you want it more for her than you want it for yourself. And I, you can't even write this stuff. And I said, huh. Yeah. I think that's probably.

true. Yeah. And he said, so you don't want it. I said, no, no. I'm not saying that. I do. On day one,

he's asking you? Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I said, I definitely want that. But I'm just saying, when you love somebody more than you love yourself, you just want the best for them.

I don't think it's like particularly strange that I want that for my sister. And he was like, well, just like, do you want that for you? And I was like. Strange way to get to that. Yeah, exactly.

So there was a lot of examples of things like that where I felt like he had. Calm up. No. I felt like he had things that he really felt like he needed to shoehorn in the conversation to ask me. And the ways he got there were like very specific. And I said to him at some point, like, how many people do you ask these exact questions to? Because it's like very specific. But I also know dating in your 30s is different than dating in your 20s.

You know what you want. So you want to get there quickly. But it's saying the bachelor. But I also need to like fall for you. Yeah. And it felt very much like the, yeah, interviewing. Yeah. So I think I'll see him again because maybe it's just like first date jitters and like he was super handsome really like he was a cute sweet person

Just didn't like that particular line of questioning and the fact that it was super late and like you know I don't feel like that's respectful of my time and he already I said to him he asked me some issues in previous relationships and I was like you know people don't like how much I work and then already he started texting me I think he wanted to ask me out for today to watch Celtics Oh. And he was like, No. But we had talked about sports and he was like, what are you doing for the game? And I was like, oh, I'm going to be, because I'm going to be working. So I was like, well, can you get it off or something? And I was like, no, because I'm working.

And he made like four more jokes about like, I should take it off. And I was like, and I even wrote back like, so you trying to get me to stop working is already starting. And he was like, just trying to get you to be more efficient and do your work in shorter time. And like he's saying as a joke, but like I know. how this goes. And it's like, and I say, well, it's not responsible enough for you to say,

okay, you know what? Yeah, I'll, I'm going to sacrifice a day of work to hang out with this dude and then it doesn't work out. You're like, now I'm a day out of work. But also, why do I have to do that? Let's just pick a different date. Like, I know that you wanted to do this.

Sure. Look, there are also times, though, where if you fall hard enough for a person, that's like, hey, today, take the day off. And you're like, all right, fine. And you'll want to do it. Definitely.

I'm not there. You're not there. It's date too. Of course you're not there. Yeah. I say, yeah, you give it another shot to see. Yeah, me too. Shows up late again, without any real explanation.

See you later. Yeah, I agree. And the silly questions and that type of stuff, that could be exactly jitters. Let's see how it plays. So, yeah, I'd say one more. Okay. I'd say one more. At least not entertainment industry.

I know you've been on me about that. That's true. Doctors, doctor's busy. You would think, but he seems to be not. What's kind of doctor? You don't remember. No, I know exactly what kind of doctor, and it was a whole issue. Oh, my God.

Do you want to hear the best part of the whole thing? Holy crap. Our interview might have to be at a different show. No, no, no. Then let's skip it. No, it has to. It's 2.30. It's 2.30.

Okay, well, then let's move on. No, but it's 2.30. You got to leave anyway. Okay, so we'll leave. So you don't want to talk about the doctor? Might as well end with the doctor. We'll do the interview in a different show. But then we're not going to get to your interview.

We're not going to do the shows. Like, come on. You want to hear about the doctor? I'll get back to it, I guess, at a different time. We'll find out. On the second date, you can tell me if it's more of an issue. What do you want to get to be? What time?

What is your heart out for sure now? I got to get to my grandparents. I'm supposed to leave at 2.30. All right. So, once you see your shows, we'll do the interview portion on maybe next week's show. Okay. And then Brett will be here to have a panic attack during. Yeah, you can have a panic attack during it.

So that's fine. What shows? What are you got? Let's go. Let's start with this one. Okay. There was, for a week, trending. number one on Netflix was the show called Unlocked a Prison Experiment.

It's a reality show. Basically, the sheriff goes into prison, goes into a detention center where there are people there that are on trial for all the things. Murder, drug use,

not just used. Lots of tons of bad, bad crimes. And the premise of the show is that the sheriff has decided that, instead of a 23 to 1, which means that they are in their cells, 23 hours a day, they get one hour to be out with each other, which is what they're on. They're going to have a 24-hour free policy for weeks and that they can associate with each other for all 24 hours, open doors, and no guards. That sounds fun. I felt really icky and dirty watching this because it felt like human hamsters, and these are real people. And it's like, did they have a say in doing this? It was an interesting, I can't lie, it was an interesting show, an interesting social experiment, chaotic, real humans, people are getting really hurt.

And it was like, what the hell is this? Now apparently it was successful, so they're going to roll this out to different cell blocks. I don't know. I felt so weird watching this, but it was an entertaining, interesting concept of watch. All right, well, that's on Netflix. Yeah. All right. You've heard me talk about The Circle before.

I'm bringing this back. They have, I think had five seasons on Netflix. Crazy enough, I turned this one on this season. This is when, like, they are all in their own pods talking to each other digitally. And some of them are catfish. Some of them are not. There's a winner. They win $100,000.

I turned it on, and a friend of mine was on it. And I was like, what? And she's so awesome. I love her. So I was like, that's so crazy. She didn't tell anybody that she was going to be on it. And it was a very, very interesting one. I think it's a lot of fun. This is one of those shows I'm talking about that I can do the dishes do whatever just kind of like have it be in and out

And it's cool to see that but this year the big twist is that one of the players is actually AI Oh and they have to try to guess who's AI who's real and who's a catfish That's probably easy to do the AI no no all right interesting all right well next one Sugar There's this trailer for it you did Colin Farrell yeah This is on Apple I'm only two episodes in and It is a, I don't want to call it a murder mystery because we don't know if she's dead in the two episodes, but there's a missing person and he is the private investigator hired to find this missing person. Is he good?

It's actually really good so far. I don't know. There's got to be more to it because that's not long enough for a whole series. And we're moving pretty quickly. So in two episodes, I'm like, he's really good. That performances are good. Apple makes really good shows. this has got my attention.

I'm definitely going to finish it. I'll tell you guys more about it next week. Man, I've been watching a lot of stand-up recently. Yeah, yeah. Neil Brennan dropped Crazy Good. I think he is one of the funniest working comedians. Do you watch him at all?

I know who he is. He's got a new podcast also. I just watched his podcast with David Allen Greer. That was good. I've seen his style. He was also in my friends. He was in Steve Burns movie. Oh.

Yeah, yeah. This was so funny. Steph told me to watch it because she watches as much stand-up as I do and she was like, did you watch this new special? I was like, is it worth watching? She was like, I laughed so much. And then I put it on and it is, there's some things that he brings up that I'm like, oh my God, this is so unbelievably funny. Just like, you know, I needed it. Is it Netflix? The laughs, yeah. Okay. All right. So Neil Brennan. And then finally, oh, this is finalist. You put this on the list because people are talking about it. But for next week, I will watch baby reindeer. So for people who want to. talk about it with me next week, catch up this week. I haven't seen it yet.

I've heard good things. You've heard more than I have. I've heard crazy things about this one. Everyone was talking about. I've got Ellis calling me up, tell me I've got to watch this. I got Chris Carr saying how much she loves it. Are you doing what I'm doing when I say everyone? Not this time.

That's two. No, no, I've gotten a lot of people. Name five more. Fans. Tons of them. Name them. What are their social security numbers? Jop. Zip, 33333.

Mm-hmm. Peanut Butter Warrior 6-6-1-1. and sniff, sniff. You think he uses the peanut butter and war, or he fought against the peanut butter? I think he fought against the peanut butter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, all right, I know that we didn't get to the interview portion of it too, but we could have done something for like five minutes and that wouldn't have been good.

So we'll probably have to rely on that next week. When are you moving? Well, we're going back in May to set of the studio, which I told people, and that was the other thing we talked about. I think that's how we got into it, is someone after our conversation the other day, not not the lost episode, obviously. Went up and got us like four of those microphone stands on the New York Amazon playlist. So people have been, and someone got us a lens.

It's been, you guys have been so cool with that Amazon list. It's the first thing you see in there. And it's just if you can help out, you do. If not, I totally understand. But it has been great. And so we're leaving in May to set up the studio itself. And then June is the final move. Okay.

So we have a little time for me to ask you. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, all right, thank you guys for joining us here today. Roxy, where can they find you? Everywhere at Roxy Stryor. That's easy. For me, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found.

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