The Kristian Harloff Show - Should Ezra Miller Be Replaced as The Flash Even After the Apology?
Episode Date: August 18, 2022Ezra Miller apologized, is it enough. Should they still be The Flash even if the movie is released? Can WB afford to take the risk. This, TV talk, The Boys, The Sandman, She-Hulk and more as Kristian ...Harloff, Brett Sheridan and a returning Kate Mulligan discuss! #SheHulk #ezraMiller #WB #film JOYMODE: http://www.joymode.com/BIGTHING PRIVATE INTERNET ACCESS: http://www.privateinternetaccess.com/THEBIGTHING SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://patreon.com/schmoedown Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg - CM Punk Interview: https://youtu.be/R8Js8uj6GfE FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome back to, look at this fucking guy.
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Anyway, welcome back to the show.
We got some stuff to talk about with the two lunatics here today.
The show will be about Ezra Miller, finally saying sorry.
Too little too late.
I'll talk about that.
Wolfgang Peterson passed away.
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A couple other great, great movies and things of that nature.
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You got some stuff coming out of this.
The Adams family teaser just came out.
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We might even do a trailer reaction to it.
That might be a lie.
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We'll figure it out.
Mark Wahlberg got some stuff going on.
Cobra Kai, season 5's got a trailer.
I'm going to try to convince Kate to watch the boys.
Something called the rehearsal that people are talking about.
I have no idea what it is.
I finished the old man.
Finish that.
Talk about that.
What are you thinking about that?
Good for you.
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We got some weird stuff that we should talk about.
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And so now you're back.
Is it going to be back on the mic?
It's so good.
Even just hearing the theme song.
I was like, yay.
I know.
We can't find you guys on both S.E.N. Live and Brett and Kate's play date,
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But it's good news because both Brett and Kate will be back.
They'll be on this show more.
There'll be more stuff to handle.
So we have a lot of talk about, for sure.
Now, what's this show that you're watching?
The proposal, what is this?
Yeah, the proposal, also known as the rehearsal.
Oh, whatever.
No, no, the proposal, I think, is a show.
No, the proposal is a movie with, what's sexy asses now?
Sandra Bullock.
Oh, yeah.
Sexy.
Oh, God.
Hey, who is that, who's the broad with the hair?
Yeah.
And the dancing.
She's got them thirties.
Yeah.
And then you got hot top pants on and demolition.
Yeah, the guy that owns the mental mobile thing, the guy with the quick wit.
The handsome dude.
What's that guy's name?
The dead, the dead pal?
That fuck is his name.
She was the girl in the thing.
You know, the guy.
Everybody gets mad at you when you can't.
You're giving me nothing.
You're giving me, what's my mother?
You know, the ones, he's in the movie.
He's an actor.
He's got hair.
Oh, yeah, he's got hair.
He's got hair?
He's got hair.
That label.
Mrs. Harloff, I don't know.
Did he just call Sandra Bullock sexiest?
Yeah, but then he followed up and called Ryan Reynolds Hotcock.
All right, all right.
We balanced it out.
We balanced it out.
I missed it out.
Listen.
That's a good writer.
A bullet and dod.
Oh, he just said this about.
Oh, he said hot cock.
Okay, he's good.
We're canceling his cancel.
Yes, we were about to cancel,
but he luckily called Ryan Reynolds Hotcock
and saved himself.
Saved himself.
I started watching the rehearsals.
What is what you asked?
Which is this Nathan?
Did you ever watch Nathan for you?
No one did.
Move on.
Oh, you are.
missing out.
Everybody did.
Oh, yeah.
What is it?
Nathan Fielder.
What are you talking about?
So hilarious.
He would take over businesses.
You used to love like the prank shows when you were a kid.
It depends.
Like I like crank yankers.
I like,
who are the New York guys that do all the shit?
The fucking buddies.
Oh, yeah.
The impractical jokers.
I love those guys.
This is like prank,
but very well thought out and very like,
you can't believe he can keep a straight face doing this.
Yeah, what's your, like there's, so for example, and Nathan for you, it was like people posted that they wanted a good workout.
And then there was also a moving company that needed people to help them move.
So Nathan Fielder set up a workout that was just the workout was being movers.
Okay.
And I didn't love the show.
Oh, you didn't?
Really?
No, so I was very reluctant about this.
Oh, wow.
It's the same.
It's the same.
That's who it is.
It's the same guy.
And basically, so I stopped watching Nathan.
for you because I for whatever reason like dealing with real people makes me so uncomfortable.
Yeah, you've said that before.
Yeah.
It's like it's like even borat.
It's like, you know it's funny.
I know it's funny.
So you know what's funny is that my brother and I were just talking about this.
We can get back into the rehearsal proposal, whatever it is.
But I was talking about my brother about this recently and there are certain things that
depending on how it's done.
I think some of the YouTube prank channels and things I hate.
Like I hate when they're when they're when they're like staring at somebody's face looking to fight somebody.
Yeah.
Like what's a prank man.
Look at the camera.
It's like fuck you.
Like you hit you right in the mouth of the brick.
Like like that like I hate that shit like oh I just pissed in your face.
It's a prank.
It's like fuck off.
But there's other things.
There's this guy on TikTok.
What is his name?
I got to find his name because he cracks me up.
He'd be amazing if it was Nathan Field.
No.
Yeah.
Oh shit.
He's this black dude.
What's his name?
God, he's hilarious.
Say white dude to balance it out?
No, he's not.
He's black dude.
Calvin.
Calvin, what's his name?
Hold on.
Calvin Calvin, Calvin something.
Calvin Calvin Calvin.
Not Calvin Klein.
I got to find this guy because he's so.
Calvin.
Calvin Grimes.
Calvin Grimes.
Okay.
I was off.
And he, let's see if you can hear the audio.
Are you a little bit racist?
So do you know who the first black woman was who received food stamps?
I do not.
Her name was Mabel.
Mabel Simmons.
Yeah, she got a famous saying,
Hilar.
He is fucking hilarious.
He reminds me of beats.
He is hilarious.
But he does it in a way.
You need the stuff like that.
He's not,
he's clearly, he's so,
it feels comedic from the second he walks up.
Every time I was similar in one of those videos,
they stop and watch it.
It's hilarious.
Like that kind of prank to me
because he's,
he's not being aggressive.
He's not,
He's just, he's being, it's funny.
It's, to me, it's funny.
Nathan isn't aggressive and it's, he's very innocent.
He's an innocence about him.
Like, you think, but he'll just stare at people after telling them something ridiculous.
Like, he tells this guy that, like, his yogurt shop is, is having trouble getting people in that he should have a poop-flavored yogurt.
Right, right.
And he goes, what if somebody heard it was the only poop flavored yogurt in town?
Yeah.
And the guy's just going, yeah, I guess, I guess I could be a good idea.
So, like, he has scientists create a poop flavored.
And people come in and they actually try it.
It's like poor.
It's like it's like poor rats stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
But like with not being mean, I don't think he, I don't remember him being mean necessarily.
So wait.
So that was that was the show.
That's this.
So what's this?
So what is this show?
So this is the rehearsal.
So this is basically the very last, the very last.
Do you hear me clear now?
The very last episode of Nathan for you was a rehearsal, which I think must be how
they got the idea.
But basically this is the idea that.
you have a big event that you have to do in your life,
like admit something or have a conversation with somebody,
it's best to practice it.
So he and his,
I think the production is what's so amazing about it.
They will rebuild,
like the very first episode is a guy who's in a trivia league
and he has to admit to,
he has to admit to his friend that's on the league with him
that he doesn't have his master's degree.
So they build the bar in a,
warehouse that he's going to, and they get every single...
Down to the last cup.
Like, insane.
Like, there's a balloon that's just, like, up in the, like, by one of the vents.
They, like, get the balloon.
Like, to put...
So they practice it, and then he, like, does these flow charts where he's like,
okay, well, if she says this, and then this and this.
And it, but, like, it just gets more and more wild, the more episodes that happen.
And what channel is this on?
It's...
I watched it on...
I watch it on HBO Max, is where I watch it.
Which means it's on HBO.
Yeah, HBO Max.
That's how long.
Yeah.
And I saw that there's a Reddit page for it, but then somebody created a subreddit page
to where you could rehearse what you were going to say on the actual Reddit page for the show.
So it's kind of, it's very meta in that.
That's interesting.
I mean, look, there's so much shit that is so much content to watch.
Oh, yeah.
I know.
Out there, not even including all this stuff in our space on streaming and all that.
I'm watching the Sandman.
I thought I've been watching on Netflix.
Oh,
yes.
We just talked about this.
Oh,
you weren't on a CNN.
But great.
Just,
yeah,
the one day you missed SCN.
I was still going to bill for it.
There goes,
that we're perfect.
Yeah,
right.
It's like,
why did you tell him I wasn't on?
I didn't watch it in five months.
He wouldn't have known.
Should have pretended.
What's the Sandman?
The Sandman is Neil Gaiman's show,
comic book from back in the day,
I remember John Snap telling me about it.
And I always used to think it was like Sandman from Spider-Man.
Yeah.
And I'm like, it's not.
It's basically the King of Dreams.
And it's kind of, it's got like-
Is that you?
The King of Dreams.
Certainly not.
But the, but the, it's got like a crow almost like,
he looks like he could fit into like a part of the cure.
Yeah.
Right.
But he's like, he's the King of Dreams and he basically is very powerful.
He has like this, his three things that he has is,
his mask,
his,
um,
it's like a ruby and his sand.
The three things,
and he's,
he can manipulate dreams.
He can create things.
He's got this magical kind of mystic kingdom.
And then there's other,
there's other realms and stuff as well,
but his,
this is his.
And so what happens to him is Charles Dance,
who is in Game of Thrones and if you,
you'd recognize him right away.
He conjured,
he's trying to conjure up,
forget which,
whether it was death or whoever he's trying to conjure up to get his
son back, right? And somehow he conjures and he gets the sandman in this prison. And he has
him in, and Samman's like, he basically says, he's like, okay, I know you can't help me, but if you can
answer me this and Samman won't talk. So they keep him there for like, I think it's like a hundred
years and eventually gets out and he's got to kind of get his shit back. He's got to figure stuff out.
And that's just the cold open. Yeah. That's the pilot. That's the pilot. So,
I've heard of the comic before.
So I watched it when I was at, I went to, when I was at Florida, I went with,
and my brother, his fiance, and I watched it at his.
Pianza?
I didn't know that.
Yay, Brian.
And so we watched, he's got like the digital projector, so we watched it.
And it was really good.
So I'm like four or five episodes in right now.
And it's not one that I'm watching with the wife.
So I got to like wait until she's either sleeping or whatever.
We just finished the old man with Jeff Bridges.
That's one that was really good on FX.
But they cut that one abruptly.
I really like the series.
But people are like, well, you're not going to like the end.
And I was like, yeah, but I have a little bit more sympathy for it.
Because the reason why it was cut, it's like, it cuts short.
Like real short and it just ends.
And you're like, well, that doesn't seem like an ending.
But then it's because it was right when you found out that he had cancer.
Yeah.
And he had to like take a break.
And I think he's recovering now.
Yeah.
I'm going to shoot season two.
But like.
Well, you were saying you like it to be short when you're,
you finish the old man, right?
I like an abrupt stop.
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So we had talked about, I think Brett, you were on the show.
When we talked about Ezra Miller, about the options that were coming out.
Remember those three?
We talked about the three potential options.
Was that you?
Yeah, I think so.
And how are we talking about?
You've got.
David Zoloft was basically there's three options on the table.
Do you know this about this story at all?
Kate?
I do.
I actually feel like I was here.
We were like, how is he still getting deals?
Yeah.
Excuse me.
How are they still getting deals?
Excuse me.
So it wasn't that they were still getting deals.
It was the fact that this movie has been shot for a while.
Yeah.
And it's $200 million movie.
It's been in the can for.
a little bit now and they had this whole plan to jumpstart the DC universe again and go to this
10 year plan and the flash is supposed to kick it off and then you got you know um as your miller
running around doing god knows what allegations who knows what's what's arrested a couple times
rested just getting in trouble left and right so the report comes out well this is what they're gonna do
because I didn't know if they were going to recast the movie,
if they were going to reshoot the movie,
if they were going to shelf the movie.
Nobody knew.
You said that the three options on the table as a last week were option one.
They were speaking with Ezra Miller's mother,
who was going to get them to apologize for behavior
and would look to recoup and understand and acknowledge it
and look for help.
And then with that, do limited press release the movie next year.
as plan.
Option two.
Ezra Miller doesn't apologize.
They release the movie.
They do basically no press whatsoever.
Then afterwards,
they just recast Ezra Miller and move on.
Option three is they scrap it all together and just get a tax break.
And send the bill to as far as.
Yeah.
Or just or get a tax break because that's what they did on backgirl.
They scrap that girl completely.
And what people don't understand is instead of putting it out just on HBO Max,
because if you did that,
you can't get a tax break on it.
So they get a tax break on the 90 million.
dollars for that movie so they could do this but just not as you're just not going to get as big of a tax break on 200 million plus so
that that doesn't make much sense to do that then the option four that I came up with which was not the
plan is just spend another 200 million just with a new person and that makes no sense to anybody so um
what they went with ultimately was option one and aser miller had a statement and see if I can actually find
the statement itself if you uh if you give me a moment I can't
believe they have a mother out there. Yeah. I got to tell you as a mom. How did it get this far?
Yeah. And now I'm not, you're no way blaming the mom. No, I know what you're saying.
Like sometimes you have to just back away and say like, I cannot help this person. Agreed. Now,
again, from what I heard, and I don't know how much is true, but I believe that Ezra Miller's father
passed away not too long ago. And I believe it had a very negative effect, clearly.
Now, here is the quote of the statement from Ezra Miller.
Having recently gone through a time of intense crisis,
I now understand that I am suffering complex mental health issues
and have begun ongoing treatment.
I want to apologize to everyone that I have alarmed and upset with my past behavior.
I'm committed to doing the necessary work to get back to a healthy, safe,
and productive stage in my life.
Now, Miller was arrested twice in Hawaii this year,
year, once for disorderly conduct and harassment.
In the Hawaiian, since Miller pled no contest to a single count of misdemeanor disorderly conduct,
and paid $500 fine and $30 in court costs.
Now, there's other things with, this is the stuff that they've been arrested with,
but there's also the accusations of grooming and these other things that are going on to.
Now, let's talk about this thing first is that, now whatever it might be,
accusations and all those types of things.
If their crimes committed, whether you apologize or not, you got to pay the price.
No matter what it is.
Now, nobody is disputing that.
Whatever, whatever it turns out that they might be guilty of.
And if it turns out that they're guilty of grooming, doing all these things to, you know,
and probably shouldn't work with them again, probably should have to take long break,
maybe not work again, whatever.
But again, we don't know what's true, what's not, what's accused, what, excuse me,
what's charged and what isn't.
Speaking specifically on the statement, right?
It's a tricky one because part one is, all right, you apologized?
Great.
So is it genuine, right?
We talked about not too long ago with the Will Smith.
Yeah.
Is it genuine?
The only thing that you like to see it because it's okay, you can acknowledge it.
That's always the biggest step.
You can acknowledge it.
you're going to make some,
you're going to try to make yourself better good on you.
The problem I have is that I just read you three options.
And option one was something that was released in the press a week ago
before the statement was made and this was option one.
Yeah.
So you knew it was coming.
So they basically laid this out to them and said,
these are our, this is what we're,
this is what we're looking at here.
One of the things we're looking.
Choose from the menu.
And they chose number one because they still want to get paid.
it's bottom line it's not to say that they also didn't want help i'm not disputing that it very well
could look at it and say okay maybe i'm i'm going through some stuff right now and it's really affecting
people around me it's affecting my life it's affecting everything thank you for bringing it to my
attention i saw the reports and everything too but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's like
it's also yeah they're trying to save their movie which they should so it's tricky yeah okay what do you
think i was i mean i think i would feel um better about
if I knew, do we have any information if they are admitted into like an inpatient facility?
Not yet.
I'm sure that that's the next step, but not yet.
No.
That's the initial thing.
That feels like, I mean, honestly, like an apology, I guess it was laid out that way,
but apology is not what's necessary here.
Recovery.
It's among, it's among a lot of things that's required.
It feels like, yeah, I hope they can get well.
What do you?
No.
What do you think?
Well, there's even, you know, they didn't even talk about it.
I don't think in this article, the whole that choke video thing that nobody ever
talks about that because they still don't know what that is.
Was it a friend?
Was it a foe?
Nobody knows.
And that needs to be, I think that definitely needs to be.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, you know, that, yeah, of course, you can immediately look on it and go, well,
of course they did that because of blah, blah, blah.
But I'm assuming that Ezra Miller knew that if they don't kind of get their shit together
regardless, or I mean, knew that running off and doing it.
doing these things.
Ezra Miller is not right to go do this while there's a movie ready to be shown in the first place.
And someone said, get your shit together.
Yeah, with your common sense tells you you're not going to get paid doing that stuff anyway.
So regardless of you, if you, you know, said, oh, I'm going to go to treatment now,
you were doing things at the worst possible time, even despite having a film that's coming out.
So I think that that, you know, this, this comes at a good time, but I think that there's some
troubles and stuff going on.
Right. Now, the bigger question is probably what I'm going to title.
this episode.
Your autobiography.
Yeah.
No, the question is,
and I spoke about this on Campa show yesterday,
was that do you think, though,
now, because the option was,
inside of option one,
it was limited press for Ezra Miller
as they're doing the promotion of the movie,
which will come out.
So they do that.
But it was also hinted inside of one,
but sticking with it and then moving forward.
This has to be the last performance
of Ezra Miller as the Flash regardless, right?
Even so, even if there's a major apology with help and all that too,
because can you ensure that they're going to stay,
like more of this isn't going to happen?
No, you can't.
I mean, I think that's the, that's, I don't know if it is an addiction thing
or if I don't, who knows, who knows what is that they're going through,
but it seems to me like, if I'm, if I'm D.C.,
I want nothing more to do with this.
You've got to find a way to do a reshoot or something where because the beauty of this is this multiverse thing,
you find a way to get either it's the kid from the Flash TV show or a new flash that takes the helm and passes the baton to Ezra.
Ezra passes the baton and we follow a new flash very similar to what they were going to do or they ultimately did with Spider-Man and Spider-Man across the universe or whatever the Spider-Ver with Miles Morales.
You know, you can do something like that.
I don't know.
I just think that you get this movie out,
you try to make money on it.
It's Michael Keaton's return as Batman.
Everybody wants to see that.
It's Ben Affleck coming back.
Right.
And it's this jumpstart into this 10-year plan.
So I think you have to,
I think you've got to recast after this.
I think you got to say thank you.
Do you think they also are doing a lot of editing around the part?
Do you think that there's maybe there?
Can't.
Can't.
It's the flash.
I mean, but I'm just saying like,
do you think that there may be?
beefing up the secondary parts.
Not storylines.
No, this movie, this movie's done.
Yeah.
Andy Muscietti directed it, who directed it chapter one and two.
Okay.
And very good director.
And apparently from the test screen is it's fantastic.
The trailers look great.
That's the problem.
Ezra Miller is actually really good.
Really good.
What the perks of being a wallflower?
Is that?
We need to talk about Kevin.
Perks of being a wallflower.
Yeah.
Tons.
And Escher Miller was great in the Zach Snyder cut.
Really, really great in that.
I mean, there's obviously, and I think that was trying to touch on this is that.
It's on HPMack.
I'm joking.
There's a match.
Yeah, yeah, you should release it.
They should release that to my account.
Did they do that?
No, start a hashtag.
Yeah, start a hashtag.
Yeah.
No, there's definitely, I think I was trying to get to this in a long,
roundabout way, but like there's definitely somebody has also let Ezra Miller down.
I mean, like, you've got publicists.
You've got family, you got whatever, you know, like...
That's hard to say, though.
You know, because, I mean, in this day and age, though,
how many people go rogue like this?
You know what I mean?
Well, look, that's hard to say.
That's hard to say, because you can talk to people until you're blue in the face.
I'm sorry, everybody in the audio.
I lean back to take a drink to be nice,
and then I keep coming back and going,
boom.
I didn't even hear it.
Until you acknowledge it.
Now I'm really disgusted.
But that's hard to say because we all know people that you'll try to have
conversations with, hey, you need to come, you need to do, and they don't listen.
We're talking about the intervention, Kaler, and now mentioning who it was, but the intervention
of our friends.
It's, and that person just said, none of you are my friends anymore.
And that was it.
And it's like if a person doesn't want to listen, they don't want to listen.
And they don't think it's an issue.
They don't think it's an issue.
And they do their own thing.
They do their own thing.
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's
it is on the person if they want to help.
Yeah.
And so it's not as, I don't think it's as cut and dry to say that I'm not saying you're wrong.
Oh, not saying that necessarily, but there's got to be like, where's the publicist?
Where's the, where's the, where's the scrubbers on this thing?
Where's the, what as soon as that happened, the first thing I think was the choke, right?
I don't know anymore.
He was initially the first thing and that, that nobody immediately went like, hey, let's, let's send out a statement about this.
This was your buddy there or something.
And this was a friend.
You were doing a bit.
You were whatever, but just nothing.
There was video of Ezra Miller at one point making videos in their car.
Oh, yeah.
What was it that Winston called it?
It was like the...
I don't remember.
I don't remember what it was.
Anyway, so...
I saw one recently where they were in a group, like a employee of a grocery store.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they said, you want me to choke you out until you...
Knock out.
Yeah, you want me to knock out?
And the guy's like, wait, what?
Yeah, right.
It's...
Who knows?
Anyway, it's, again, referencing the initial story, and that's, I'm happy to me, the statement that there is
help that is going to be and also going back into what I said to start this whole thing they are
guilty of a crime they should pay for that yeah um there's no doubt about that but I've said this since the
beginning I think that human beings in general and it's always easier said than done when you're
watching from a computer screen and you're not related then you don't see these people and you don't
see you don't ever have actual physical conversations with them or in the same room or anything to
It's easy to say, oh, who cares?
They did this.
Get them out of there.
Get them out of there.
Who cares?
It's like, it's, it's harder to say when you realize it's an actual human being.
Now, again, I'm not saying that no matter what the, what the person did.
If there were major crimes that were committed, absolutely, they should pay the major crime for, for what is especially if this fucker was grooming people and doing all this and taking another.
Of course, absolutely.
I'm, I'm with you on that.
Just saying,
also look at the human side of it that if there's someone that's saying I need like really
legit saying I need help I'm realizing that I did a lot of fucked up shit and I need help and someone
is crying for help I think it isn't coming as people in general to say okay well we're going to try
to help you but there's but they're also so this is that same thing that's why I say you don't
know if someone's going to do it again and it's like and if you do how many like that comes down
what you were talking about before with addiction and other things too like there are many
times that people who are and that even whether it's good people, bad people that are that have
addiction that continue to keep doing things because they can't help themselves because of mental
illness and there's other things. So it's just a sad situation all the way around. There's no doubt
about it. There's only one way to get out of this conversation and I think I figured it out. I know it.
Perfect. Thank you. You're welcome. Was that you? Was that you? And dry humping bread against
you all. Oh, excuse me. That's okay.
You're okay with that?
I had a joke.
Wow, that's a little one.
You're okay?
Whoa, Kate.
I apologize.
Hold it in.
I will love.
Wow.
That's what happens.
What?
Whoa.
That one went up.
That one went up.
That one went out and then up the other.
And we're back.
And we're back.
So I was also telling Kate, speaking of TV shows that we were talking about before.
Brett's, you finished season two?
Yes.
Loved it?
Yeah.
Better than the first?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, wow.
It's just like, it's just the boys are talking about.
Layers and layers and layers of it.
I watched the boys.
You did not.
My boys.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of great Jimmy Kailer shoutouts today.
Oh, no, I meant my actual children.
Oh, you're right.
He wasn't a show called My Boys.
He was.
I never watched him.
I used to watch this show.
He's very good.
He was in the end.
of the family stone.
Family stone.
That's right, he was.
So anyway,
the boys is basically it's a show,
it's on Amazon Prime.
You should absolutely watch it.
You would love it.
What would you do if I was like,
I don't have Amazon Prime?
Just kidding.
I was actually thinking that today.
Everybody has Amazon Prime.
Yeah, don't you have Amazon Prime for deliveries?
No, I know.
I'm joking.
I absolutely have it.
Then you should watch it.
Yeah, you should absolutely watch it.
It's such a good.
We finally got,
like the whole story was,
I told him that Lonnie would like,
And then we called Lonnie on air, which she was not happy about.
But Lonnie to this day gave me my favorite answer ever, that I've ever talked to anyone.
And I said to her, I said, Lonnie, why aren't you watching this show?
Why won't you watch this show?
And she was, because I don't want to.
I said, okay.
Perfect.
And she was in such a, she was in a very sassy mood that day.
And she basically, and I said, well, you just watch.
She was in her ludal face.
But I am, but I will tell you, I am.
But she has not even sent a text to say that I was right.
She was ready.
And then, but like, yeah, she's in the middle of work stuff right now.
But yeah, I was, I said, we're going to call you.
She was, all right, all right.
But, I mean, she was glowing about it.
She loves.
And she loves the, the, the, the, the juxtaposition of the two.
Of course, the real world and the real world and this and the politics of it all.
And it, exactly.
And I knew that she would like it.
And I have not even got a simple, okay, it's good.
I want to now.
Yeah.
Just even a,
now I want to.
Now I want to.
You should.
You'll,
you'll love the show.
Like,
I love Peacemaker.
And I actually think that Peacemaker
Season 1 was a tad bit better
than the boys' season three.
But I think,
and obviously,
you put three great seasons
against one great season.
The three great seasons win.
I think overall the boys is a better show
so far.
I have to wait for season two
of The Peacemaker.
What's the overall premise?
So,
So it's basically...
Or all of those people out there that don't know.
Because I know.
Yeah.
So the boys, it's, you think it's going to be a full-on, like, superhero show, but it's kind of like an anti-superhero show.
And the superheroes are not really the good guys.
And they've been commercialized in this kind of capitalistic system.
It hits the ground running, let's say.
It certainly does.
That's an inside joke.
Yes, it is.
But it does.
It does.
And then, but.
First 10 minutes, you're like, what?
You'll know right away if you like it or not within 10 minutes.
And then Carl Urban is probably his best work.
Yeah.
Easily.
He's great in a lot of stuff.
But he's butcher.
Is he your favorite?
Yeah.
I like butcher.
Yeah, it's tough.
Jack Quaid.
Butchers great.
But in terms of the Homelander.
Oh, he's so good.
Yeah.
He's so.
It's so good, but you hate him, but he's good.
People are concerned about me because I have recently been, for capes and cows, this is my, this is the, our logo.
And I specifically requested Homelander.
People are like, why did you, like, Winston's Batman and Corey's like dead man, you chose Homeland?
I was like, I certainly did.
You don't deal with what I have to deal with.
So, yeah, but.
We got to sell you on it now.
But, but, Brett, you know, someone pitches.
Call me.
Call me and tell me about it.
Yeah, but someone pitched us the other day to me, Anthony Star.
It's not Anthony.
It's Anthony Star, but someone pitched this.
Anthony Star is Dr. Doom because he's been meeting Marvel lately.
Yeah.
And I said, oh, him is Dr. Doom?
That would be awesome.
You're going to, I'm telling you.
Elizabeth Shoe was in season one.
Oh.
Oh, amazing.
Yeah.
And it's like, it's so, it's really a good, it's a funny show.
But it's like, it's got that kind of peacemaker sense of humor, gore, but clever writing.
Love that.
It's right up your alley.
If you like the suicide squad and like peacemaker, then you'll love this show.
And not, you know, I mean, again, a lot of the cast is not like huge names or anything like that, but great performers.
Haley Joel Osmond shows up.
Oh, really?
Yeah, you've seen him already.
I did?
I did.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he looks different.
He looks different.
He looks different.
God, he had another great cameo on a different show.
God, I love that guy.
Yeah, he's great.
So it's something I highly recommend.
Let's see what else.
Pray, you guys, anyone watch Pray yet?
Been hearing about it.
And it's not this, it's this.
It's predator.
Yeah.
Yeah.
PR-E-Y.
And it's, yeah, that's out of Hulu.
That's kicking ass for Hulu.
I just saw driving gear.
A Hulu ad for.
Wait, I got to correct you on that, Kate.
A prey would be.
Oh, you're right.
You're right.
Yeah.
Pray would not be this.
I meant inverse of.
For the audio listeners, I'm doing a retracting from a predator.
I'm not attacking.
Not attacking.
Not yet anyway.
So what were you saying?
I saw a show called the patient that's going to be on Hulu with Steve Correll.
Oh, yeah.
It does not look like Steve Correll.
Yeah, Domal-Kleason.
Donal.
It's spelled Don Hall, but it's pronounced don'tal.
And that's just about someone being patient, right?
He's got Mark Riley's hair now
Do you know that man is 60 years old?
Mark Riley?
No, Steve Carell
And he does not look 60 years old
He does not look 60 years old
He looks way younger than I
Well in like 40 year old version
Virgin you could see that he like works out
I mean like talk about a dad
He's Steve Carrell rules
I saw this speaking of like comedians that are
There was this clip that I don't know why it went viral today
Who knows somebody probably found it on an old VHS tape
And posted it and went viral
50 Cent was singing
in the club, whatever, and next to Jim Carrey.
And Jim Carrey starts, like, dancing and doing that Jim Carrey head movement thing.
But it's just like such a Jim Carrey moment.
And I don't know, just today decided that's what they wanted to make go viral.
And I, and I, of course, that's scrolled and scrolled and.
Yeah, that's how I now, we, the little one has now been waking up at like 5.30 in the morning.
They're both going to school now.
And I told Kate this.
My wife has not really had free time like this, maybe ever since, well, no, definitely ever.
Since, since, since kid one, like, I think because even, even as the second one was starting a free time, she got pregnant and she was even went through.
So she really hasn't had any free time for like 10 years.
So on day one of school, and especially during summertime, it was, she was the little, the even when it even, yeah, because the little one was home with her the whole time.
It was very demanding.
So this was finally the first.
So she literally played George Michael's freedom in the kitchen right before we went to school.
That was part one.
And then she goes, and I said, what are you going to do today?
She's like, nothing.
Absolutely.
Sitting on the couch watching Outlander.
And then she's like, I'm going to go to the mall today.
She's like an eight-year-old walking around.
But the little one wakes up today and she's just in a shit mood because it's,
Like she wakes up too early.
Well, Wednesdays are the hardest.
Like, I swear to God,
hump day for kids is the hardest because they've just done two days of school.
And they cannot.
They wake up on that third day.
And they're like,
I have to do three more days of that.
She didn't care about going.
It was other stuff that was going on as far as, like,
well,
no, but if she's just tired,
my wife had asked her to do something,
and she was freaking out.
So it's like,
I want to play screens.
And I said, all right,
I'm going to teach you a rule because you're five,
because you start to learn how to play iPad.
This is a rule.
We don't do screens during,
Vivy, do we do screens
during the morning
in school? She's like, Vivi's like, nope.
And not these words,
but the attitude of the kids, well, fuck that.
It's pretty much what it.
And so the little one's
trying to make that work. So finally I go,
hey, you want to see a dog?
And I show it, but it was the oldest
who started reading her stories that got her out of
the funk. And then, and it's hilarious
though, because now my wife on day one
is like taking her
school's like oh my little baby she's going to school by day three the little one's like i don't want to go
to school show you're fucking going yeah yeah she's like you are going yeah just throwing her by the pants
and gone you know i don't care what this is the first year of school actual school she went to preschool
is yeah it was like there was yeah it was like it was but this is this is like all day and and and like
she actually kindergarten uh tk yeah but she's already five you said she's about to be five you're oh
yeah it's it's yeah that's like lit they're yeah mine mine will be five in november yeah she's
She's September.
She's September, yeah.
TK is the, it's the greatest thing ever because you're like, oh, free preschool.
Yes.
And they didn't offer it at this school for at first, and then they finally have.
Same with mine.
Yeah, we got lucky.
But anyway, domestic stuff.
All right, let's see if there's anything else going on in the news that I can bring up that I think is relevant that you people want to actually hear about.
And if not, we can call it a little bit of a day.
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You know, it's funny about, I forgot, you know, I've been taking him to screenings lately.
Oh. So I took him to see Bullet Train. Yeah. First film in three years in a movie theater.
We're going, we're going back tonight. Yeah, we're going to see Beasts. Oh, Idriselba.
So, um, yeah, that is tonight. Yes. You did you forget about it?
So do you forget all about it?
I did.
Perfect.
Perfect.
I thought it was next Wednesday.
I mean, I can work it out.
Next Wednesday is barbarian or next Monday is barbarian.
Craig.
Craig the Barbarian.
Because you're just going to hang out.
You're just going to hang in this house.
Yeah, so that's it.
Anyway, so we are going to see that tonight.
So the way that's going to work, we're going to do the out of the theater reaction like
we did last time.
So look out for that.
I have the...
Somebody said,
who's that a homeless guy with Chris?
It's hilarious.
I mean, I don't know anything about this movie.
I don't really know.
I just know I like Giselba.
Yeah.
And I'll tell you,
the line doesn't look good in the trailers.
Oh,
the CGI.
Have you seen it?
No.
I was going to just go blind.
All right.
I won't tell you that.
Maybe it looks better.
I don't know.
I just didn't think that looked good.
I'm trying to figure out,
we were talking about this the other day.
I'm trying to figure out if it's supposed to be like a jaw situation.
It seems like it.
Seems like a good.
Or if it's like it's an extra big lion or if it's just an extra malicious lion.
I don't know enough about it except he's with his family and then a lion starts attacking them.
Yeah.
So we'll find out in a little bit.
But as I mentioned, CGI that looks bad and maybe it's not going to be great, I start to then think of Shee Hulk.
Where I talked about, have I talked to you about Shee Hulk at all?
No, I know you saw the, you got the screen.
So I saw the first four episodes.
Now I saw the trailer, didn't love the trailer.
I didn't love Thor, Love and Thunder.
I thought it was just, we're joke city.
I think the last time we talked,
I was talking about She-Hulk and I'm like,
I'm just worried about how goofy it's going to be
and how over-the-top of the comedy it's going to be
and the CGI.
I love the first four episodes.
Like, the first two episodes are so well-written.
Like, I couldn't believe how well-wrote.
And like they treated like an Allie McBeal show.
And I think I was talking about this with Robert Mike Burnett yesterday.
And we said on the show, on the camera show,
that the difference is that when you look at Thor,
Thor has different examples of how he could be serious
and things that we've seen him serious before.
And I think Infinity War to me is the best Thor has ever been.
And yes, Ragnarok was silly,
but it was kind of, to me it was balanced.
And then you get into this Saturday Night Live,
top secret version of Thor that is just like, whoa, that is,
you're really going heavy on comedy.
Go easy on Tycho Atiti.
He's really busy being the hottest man on the planet.
And having...
On rooftops with famous actresses.
Listen, just go easy on him.
I miss that one.
I also missed him.
I love Tycho Ati.
I just didn't love the movie.
But now when this trailer comes out, I was like, okay.
But then when you see the show, it knows exactly what it wants to be.
And it tells you right away, this is Allie McBeal inside of the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
And it pays homage.
and gives respect to the Marvel lore.
It's clever, and it's short.
It's like 28 to 32 minutes.
I like that.
Because it's tough with the boys.
The boys is an hour.
It's tough.
You want to watch a couple of three, four.
But the boys is a full-on drama with a lot of complex things that go through it.
And I think it deserves to be an hour, right?
This would be nice to have a little one that we can kind of just do when we're like,
oh, I'm too tired for an hour, pop on something fun before bed.
This is exactly what this is.
I am always too tired for an hour.
Just so we're clear.
32 minutes.
Did you like how to make Bill?
This one has a dancing baby
In all gender's bathroom
It's zigzag
Same thing
Same thing
It's ailing me being
That's it
Same thing
Got the guy from Porky's
Hit it
Yeah see
That's all you
That's all you really have to know about
But that's
But I was surprised
And it comes out
I think today is Thursday
It's probably out for everybody right now
Yeah it's out for everybody
So you can check it out
My spoiler review
Is on the channel right now
But my
Both my non-spoiler
for the first four
on the channel, my immediate reaction, I'll have immediate reaction
until the other episodes. And then we've got shit, man,
we've got so much coming out. Lord of the Rings is coming out.
Yes, cannot wait. Game of Thrones is coming out.
Andor. And now, in September,
they just had the cobra kai new trailer.
And now, are you, your cobra kobar. I'm not.
I'm not covered. Have you tried it or just not?
No, no. I was a runner, so I never really did any.
Yagido karate.
Your mom, Miagido, yeah.
It made no sense.
No, I'm just saying I've never done, I've never done karate.
No, I never started, I never, I don't.
Did you like karate kid or not really?
I did.
I'll be the man who will fight.
Part two.
Okay, I liked karate kid too.
Yeah.
Fine.
And I stand by my.
No, you're right.
I mean, look, it's the same franchise.
It's not like you started singing Eye of the Tiger or something.
I, that's, perfect.
No, I loved, I mean, that, those were, those were movies.
Those were movies.
They called, they called, they called, they called, they called, a child here.
Those were movies.
They were movies.
They were movies.
I mean, come on.
What is karate?
Are you painting?
Are you washing cars?
Are you kicking fences?
What is it?
Why is this man have a pond next to an old motor?
Come on.
Daniel Russo, no.
Oh, you're getting close.
No?
You're wrong.
La Russ.
Daniel La Rousseau was probably my first crush as a kid.
Look at you.
Yeah.
Well, he's aged like 10 years since.
I know.
I got to hang out with him when I did the.
I did that Nokia theater
Netflix is a joke
I moderated the panel
Oh that's right
Oh that's so cool
And I am
And I hung out with Ralph Macho
For the majority of the time
What a great deal
Oh I bet
Just such a sweetheart
Like nice guy
Well you remembered me from Collider
When we were hanging out
And we were just talking
We were talking about the
Just East Coast stuff
And then at the time
Like we had to like get
You had to get tested and stuff
To when we were there
So he's like
Where is it?
Where is it?
We're like running around
the thing together.
I'm like,
and I'm in my head,
I'm going,
I'm fucking hanging out
with Ralph Montchian.
This is awesome.
I call it.
Cool,
obviously.
But I'm like,
and then Williams App go to his day.
I mean,
I got to hang out with the whole cast,
which was incredible.
I was like,
I was on Cloud 9 because I was,
I love that show.
And the trailer for the new one looks great.
It's,
it's like what you were just talking about.
It's five.
This is season five.
This is about,
and again,
shorter episodes.
So you have like that same.
This is my,
when you have shows,
look at the shows that are coming out right now.
Well, She Hulk is a fun.
She Hulk is a fun show.
So you're kind of bookending the two of them.
Sheilk is a lot of fun and you get a lot of laughs out of it.
Game of Thrones is going to be intense.
Hilarious.
Hilarious.
Game of Thrones is going to be.
Especially since they're going to have a lot more un...
Now, I'll tell you, though, I'll tell you though,
for Roxy is where you're going with the Roxy thing.
I got to get that article from Rock.
So you have some preference of what was...
She said something that they decided to have less consensual sex.
They said that the, that the, the, the,
She said that there's an article that the creators said that they made a decision to have less consensual sex.
Because of the times.
And then, but then.
The made up.
Now, and I'll talk with Roxy on the show, and I would say this to Roxy if she was on the show or not on the show.
But say it.
Say it to me.
Go ahead.
Roxy sometimes says, well, everybody's saying it.
And I've said this to Roxie.
I was like, well, who's everybody?
Honestly, just actually every.
And I said that turn.
She said to me, she said, you know, because you said that to me, I paid attention to him more.
And I was like, well, I want to see the actual article because I saw the comments come in and
and goes, well, that's not what the creator said.
Creators said this instead.
I want to see the actual quote before I say that that's what they said.
And not that I don't believe that, Roxy, I want to see the actual quote.
I will find that for you right now.
And she would, though.
She would have it.
But there's no one that does better
freaking research in Roxy Stryorah.
Anyway, except maybe for that article.
But anyway.
Can I just say that, and I'm not disagreeing with Rackett necessarily,
but I, to me, I always feel like if you are,
I don't know, like why, I don't know,
I don't know how to be articulate about this.
Yes, I don't love watching women get assaulted.
Yeah.
But if we pretend like that doesn't happen.
Oh, she wasn't saying she wasn't going to watch it.
not watching because of it.
She was just making it clear that's what they said in the article, apparently.
She wasn't, she wasn't making a stance saying that she wasn't going to watch her.
She just thought it was a weird thing to say.
Especially the, because of the times part.
You know, when I ask the audience that if you know the article that was being referenced,
which can you put it in the comments here?
Because I want to read it.
Because I still haven't been able to find it because I got these conflicting things for people,
because people said inside of that episode that we did.
That's not what they said.
what they said was this.
And I said, but nobody's providing me a link because you can say,
because Roxy could very well be right.
And that's exactly what they said.
I don't know.
I just know that.
I can put my money on Roxy being right.
I mean, I don't know.
I got to look at the actual article and see exactly what they said.
So if somebody can send that, anyway, I digress.
Shee Hulk.
Yeah.
Funny.
Goofy.
Game of Thrones not too much.
Lord of the Rings, not so much.
Andor, not so much.
And then you bookend it with.
You'll think, well, and or it'll have its silliness.
Andro is not.
Is K2S.
K1.
So he's not in the first.
Oh, forget it.
So it won't have any Star Wars humor you think.
I think is it, but not so much.
Did you see the trailer for Andrew yet?
No, not yet.
Oh, when this is over, I want to show you that you're a lose your mind.
The trailer was fantastic.
You know that's, I think, my favorite Star Wars movie.
Oh, if you loved Rogue One.
I loved Rogue One.
You're going to lose your mind.
This trailer, I showed Roxy and Brett on, they were both like, wow.
It's one of the best trailers that Star Wars has had maybe ever.
Oh, wow.
At least in a very long time.
Exactly.
I look, we did it.
I think we did it.
We did it.
See if there's anything else we need to do.
No, it's it.
We're done.
All right, listen, for Kate and Brett and me and you and everybody.
Thank you so much for joining us here today.
Who's everybody?
Yeah.
That's the truth.
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