The Kristian Harloff Show - Should James Earl Jones Return as Vader in Kenobi Series? | The Sith Council
Episode Date: April 28, 2022On today's Council we explore the possibility of James Earl Jones returning to voice Darth Vader in the Kenobi series. Should he? Hayden Christensen says no comment. Speaking of which, there is a repo...rt that ties back the comments in episode four to the new series on Disney Plus in the Star Wars universe. Kristian Harloff, Mike Kalinowski and Steph Sabraw explore this and what to expect at Star Wars Celebration. Follow the crew on Twitter! Kristian Harloff https://bit.ly/31PePMD Steph Sabraw https://bit.ly/3m0ud0z Mike Kalinowski https://bit.ly/39wu8N5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hey everybody, welcome back to Sith Council. If you didn't know already,
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So today we have a lot of questions that we are going to get through through the audience.
And I, by the way, this morning I'd watched Moon Night and I had to get the spoiler review out.
So the prep to the show, I wasn't able to take all the screenshots.
I'm going to go through all the shots from Twitter and YouTube.
and everything where I posted it, Facebook obviously,
but I'm not going to be able to display the question,
so I'll just read your names out when we do it.
But we have a lot of questions today,
and we're getting so close.
We're getting so close to Obi-1.
There's not a lot of stories really going on,
so it's going to be pretty heavy on myself, Steph,
and Mike's going over these questions.
But it is Sith Council.
It is time to go.
Let's do it.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
Sith Council.
Oh, we got blurry.
face.
What's wrong?
Am I too far back?
No, the camera can't detect your face.
Too much oogly.
That's my chest.
Oh, yeah.
I poppy.
There you go.
So like I said, it was a little rush today, but nonetheless, we're here.
And we've got a lot going on on the show.
Yeah.
And I think we're so close to Obi-Wan.
It's like right around the corner.
It's nuts.
How it's, it's pretty nuts.
But the other, the other news, I guess, is that I'm pretty confident that the three of us will be at celebration now.
I'm pretty confident.
I'm going to follow up at the end of this, but it looks like we won't be doing a panel.
Would you say the odds are 3,720 to 1?
Never tell me the odds.
There you know.
I'm, do you guys see the pictures, the new Obi-1 pictures?
I did, yeah.
Steph, did you see him?
No, the blue, right, the blue robe, and he's got the kind of, yeah.
From total film, there were three of them.
There was one where he's on Tatooine, and he's walking around.
in that robe Mike was just talking about.
There's one where he's on that new planet,
kind of doing the detective work.
So that's not a Corazon.
No.
We don't think that's,
it's not Corsoon.
No, it's not Corsox.
Okay.
Then yeah.
And then the third was the Inquisitor
whose head looks a little better.
Oh, did they do a little...
I don't care.
A little Sonic remake.
Oh, yeah, it's a good one.
I don't care.
I don't care either.
I'm no attachment to that.
I don't care.
For people who are like, it's not,
it doesn't look like it doesn't rewere to the sits.
in their not defense
but like Cadbane
except for the like coloring
different
look pretty similar though
that guy looks
that guy looks
noticeably and again
I know like Duke who's got that long face too
so I don't know if it's just the style
they could have made it look
if they wanted to but they wanted to
but they changed it up a little bit
I don't care as long as the character is consistent
and it doesn't look like so radically different
yeah I don't care I mean for me the only thing was in again
I'm not as diehardt is like
we've seen that species in
and they had the long heads so it's like
But do you get it?
I know.
How many people do you know have a big fat head and some of skinny heads and human beings?
We all get big fat heads.
I said you got a small head.
Yeah, but it's round.
And round faces matter too.
So I'd like to see some of that on the Star Wars Street.
It's right. Round heads.
Let's get the round heads.
I need to see big cheeks, please.
Well, that can be determined a lot of your own way.
Yeah, see, I knew you were going to go.
There we go.
That's why I tried to hit it first.
The iPopi.
Anything else?
Oh, Hayden Christensen actually talked a lot.
Now, Obi-Wan, McGregor, Christensen, and Deborah Chow address...
Obi-Wan-Megregor.
Obi-Wan-Megger.
Obie-Wan-Megger, Christensen, Deborah Chow
address how the series might impact lines from a new hope.
When I left you, I was but the learner, now I am the master.
That's the one everybody was really curious about, right?
Yes, yes, indeed.
So let's see if they address that.
That iconic line from A New Hope has been at the center of a lot of fan debate
over what a new meaning between Obi-Wan and Vader in the upcoming show would mean for their final duel in episode four.
It's a complicated scenario, but it sounds like those involved are aware of how important is to make sense of it all.
Entertainment Weekly discussed the matter with McGregor, Christensen, and Deborah Chow.
We already knew the context of the line that is going to change entirely.
It's been a foregone conclusion for a while.
It's been teased that we're going to get the rematch of the century.
However, McGregor and Christiansen aren't willing to give up the goods just yet.
when asked whether Mustafa would be the last meeting between the two Star Wars icons before
a New Hope, the duo said, McGregor said maybe.
Oh, Christensen said maybe, and McGregor said maybe it's fun.
It's very clever how these threads are created.
It's like working backwards and forwards at the same time for the writers and Deborah.
Chow, meanwhile, is very cognizant of properly filling in the gaps between Revenge of the Sith
and a new hope.
There was an opportunity to play with how we understand the movies, but Chow knows she can't waver it too much.
It was definitely something that we were very mindful of.
And for me, taking on George Lucas's legacy, it's an honor to take these characters and be able to tell a new story with them.
So I wanted to be very respectful to what exists and not change anything that George intended originally or anything like that.
Of course, when breaking a new story, you can't help but impact what has already come or is to come.
Obviously, there is room for interpretation and telling the story that they did have these 20 years.
And obviously something happened in between these 20 years.
And there's some things from our series that they're going to be a little bit more room for interpretation on.
the reinterpretation can come
the form of repositioning the quote
from a new hope and helping it align better with one
from Return of the Jedi.
During their meeting on Endor,
Obi-Wan wants to start as you do.
That's the one that I've been painting,
you know?
Right.
At one point during their...
Let's see, Obi-Wan gave the impression
that he still sees good.
He doesn't, though.
Hold on.
At no point during their...
Yes, he does he?
He left them there.
It's when Padmei says it to him.
Debra Chow is unbelievable.
What an amazing director.
from E. McGregor, and what an amazing leader she is.
It's so great working with her, just so exciting.
She has such quiet authority, and she's really, really on it.
She knows this world backwards and inside out,
and there was never a moment where she didn't know exactly what was going on,
what she wanted, what she needed.
It was brilliant working with her.
He went on to talk about how she approached the show
as a way to blend both the prequel and original trilogies together.
That's awesome.
Something that really shows on new planets like Dio.
I think that's the one, Mike, that's what we were doing.
Yeah, yeah.
For her in the pre-production process,
making all that work and taking these things on set in 1975 and linking it to what we saw in 2003 and making it all work.
It's a really interesting prospect and they did such an amazing job with it.
That's, I mean, I liked everything I heard there.
Has anything been said that you haven't liked, and I don't mean you, just you person, I just mean you guys and gentlemen.
I don't think there's anything that's come out that I've been like, that, that strikes me the wrong chord.
I don't know about this.
Nothing.
Yeah, I don't think so.
Debra Chow being one of the first announcements was such a good call.
And if there's one thing my people do, it's research and executing the research.
And I think you needed to do that for this role because specifically with Obi-1, it has a huge
past.
But then you're also filling in gaps and you're also creating a new way that we see Obi-1 and
the characters involved.
So it's a mix-up of the past, present, and the future.
And she's the perfect person to do it.
But no, I haven't really heard one thing or seen one thing that I'm like, no, I'm kind of
worried about that.
Which I guess that kind of works me, maybe.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, it's, I mean, there's, I want to see how they blend.
What I am worried about, and there's nothing to do with who the character, yeah,
but who the character is.
Someone asked me last week, do I think that it's going to be, whether it's the Inquisitor himself,
Reva, any of the new, any of the characters, right?
I don't want this to be their show.
I want this to be.
I see what you're saying.
Yeah, I see what you're saying.
You know, yeah, yeah.
They should be in service of Obi-Won.
They wind up getting their own spinoff shows and there's an inquisitor show.
There's an inquisitor show.
There's a Revis show.
Yeah.
Great.
But let's not,
let's not make it their show.
I don't think we're going to.
I don't think so.
But that's what someone asked you.
I think it's going to be that I have no problem with those characters being focused on heavily.
And introducing us to them to learn them more.
But let's not make it their show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like that's,
that's the only thing that I would be like,
uh-oh.
And I haven't heard,
I haven't seen anything that would make me believe that that's the case.
It seems like it's going to be those.
meetings between they're going to be very aware with Hayden and you and that we want to see that.
And there's a lot.
There's some other stuff.
Someone asked Hayden Christensen if, if Vader was going to be in it.
I mean, uh, Earl Jones.
And he said no comment.
And well, then he is.
No, that doesn't, that doesn't mean that.
Come on now.
I still, I still think it might be time to try to find somebody new.
You can find someone that sounds like a younger version of him.
sounds blasphemy.
I know it does.
Yeah, I don't think they're going to.
When I say that, people don't like it all the time, but I, but I, but I,
he's still around, so we, you know, he's 90, he's 92 years old.
Is he really?
Something like that.
And, well, you don't need to do anything but talk.
You don't have to, he's not up on set and stuff.
I'm not talking about that.
I'm not talking about the reason.
You're looking for the future.
No, I'm talking about because it sounds like a 92 year old man.
It doesn't sound like, like, this is supposed to be 10 years before.
You sound like you did back in those fat house days when you were just a hundred, 100%
didn't.
And you go back.
And again, that's only 20 years removed.
Right.
Not 50 years removed.
Can't they do anything digitally, you think, with this voice?
I don't want them to do that thing they did with Mark Hamill.
Get rid of that stupid thing.
What they've been doing, Mark Hamill, the computer, anime.
Oh, take my voice and synthesized the sound that you are, Yoda.
It's terrible.
There's so many voice actors here that can sound just like them.
All right, fair enough.
Who does it?
Did he always do it for Clone Wars?
Did Earl Jones?
Or is it telling Tom Cain?
Rubbles you mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, he did it for rebels.
Did he?
Okay.
And it was, it worked for rebels, but it wasn't, I don't know how heavy it was,
but Rogue One, it was clear as day.
Has he didn't bother me in Rogue while.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right, well.
You shouldn't have to choke on your aspiration.
This was so good.
Deborah Chow debunks this Darth Mall thing also.
Can we get rid of the mall nonsense?
I knew that was crap.
It made.
So,
so this is a new planet because I've always been in the assumption.
And again, I'm trying to not go too deep into spoiler territory with reveals,
because I want to go into this blind.
as much as I can.
Right.
So this is not Choruson.
I love that.
No,
it's not.
I love that it looked,
because this looked like
those lower levels of
Choracinth that we always hear about
and see,
you know,
every now and then.
They said it's a Tokyo-type city, right?
Yeah.
I think that's what the description was.
Maybe a little Blade Runner
influenced were,
as it were,
nice.
Total film got some great stuff here.
They were talking to you,
McGregor,
and he said,
he had never had a confrontation
against Darth Vader
despite playing Obi-Wan Kenobi in three different movies.
I mean,
he,
fought Vader but not the physical
form Vader so he said
I've never met Vader I had I had rehearsed
the scene with Vader but not with the helmet on or anything
when we came to do the scene he shouted action he had
he had to come from behind me I turned around I said his
fucking Darth Vader coming out of me I was like six again
I never acted into Vader's helmet I never looked at him in the eye
he then added that while filming that scene he was scared
he didn't even have to act it scared the shit out of me I'm not joking it
gave me a proper jolt of absolute fear was like oh my god
that's not acting that's real I'm really truly
frightened now. And the same thing would happen with the stormtroopers. I worked with clone troopers before
and a lot of them were CGI and I never worked with stormtroopers. And again, I was like seven years old.
Because when you're actually faced with a stormtrooper with a blaster, it's like, be pale.
What's that word? Yeah, there you go. It's like actual childhood memories of being scared.
That's how deeply, I realized that for this show, I got to, I got to, there are kids that
listen to the show. I got to be careful. That's how, that's how deeply it's in us. I've acted for 30 years and I've
never been genuinely frightened when I'm, when I'm actually acting frightened. But I had moments on
this where I was generally was quite scary.
It's so funny.
Just conjuring that up, seeing him, you and McGregor, Obi-Wan.
You're scared?
No, not that, but like with Stormtroopers.
Yeah.
Invader.
I know.
That's pretty awesome.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Because we've seen this all the time.
We see it whether it's in animated or comic books or whatever.
So I've seen Obi-1 with Stormtroopers and stuff.
Yeah.
But I've never seen the actor.
Here's that shot.
With that thing.
You can look at the monitor that's the shot him on that way.
Oh, yeah.
See, I was always in the assumption that's the lower levels of course on, but you're right.
It has a nice Tokyo vibe to it.
That looks awesome.
And you know what's crazy to me?
I about it's all the volume.
No,
and not all of it.
I mean,
I don't know.
The actors on the ground,
they're like that phone booth thing.
You're probably right.
But all this back stuff.
You're probably right.
It's incredible.
It's amazing.
You're probably right.
Incredible to me.
So,
and then they asked Deborah Chow about Darth Mall.
And he said,
as long as I've been involved,
we've never had Darth Mall in it of any kind.
Dave Filoni did a beautiful job of telling that story already.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We've been saying that forever.
Darth Mall has no business being in this show.
of course she's referring to the Star Wars Rebel season three arc with
Mal went against and was defeated in combat by Obi-1 in the series
it said that the two haven't seen each other in a long time that Moll
have been looking for the Jedi and hiding for many years
Miguel had to have written this yeah now are we getting
two episodes right off the bat right for this I think because they moved
it back a few days but then they said we're going to give you two episodes
yeah they're giving you two episodes but they are going to go back to when
it was Miguel of course it was he's the best
So Wednesdays, I think they're going to start it on Friday.
On Friday.
And then after that, it goes back to Wednesdays.
I wonder if they did that because it's the start of the weekend.
More people can watch it.
Kids can watch it.
They're not going, getting up for school.
I wonder if that is.
I don't know.
I still think it's strange, though, that they put it on that Friday for a lot of different reasons.
One, it is going up against stranger things, which is only that.
week really. But that's not that big of a deal. But the bigger one is
there's so much news going to be coming out of Star Wars Celebration
and Star Wars is going to be in full force on that Friday. So are they maybe
like, hey, this is kicking off Star Wars so the next day you're at the con.
That's why I thought Wednesday is what they were going to do.
Gotcha. But why they, that's my point. I thought that they, that was a brilliant plan.
Wednesday it starts off. Wednesday is the unofficial first day of celebration by putting
out Obi-1 episode one and then it starts. But now it's not. No.
It's not Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday?
Starts on Thursday.
And you're going to be in full swing on Thursday.
And then a lot of those people that are there, you're going to be asking them,
you know, now they've got to watch it in their hotel room and people are going to be all.
Yeah.
Which is fine.
You're watching your computers, whatever you're going to do the next day.
And then there's probably going to be the panel on Friday.
Because you know McGregor's going to be at celebration.
It's got to be a panel Saturday then.
You would assume.
They would not go to the panel before.
Well, remember, it drops Friday at midnight.
So you give them people a chance.
but I don't know.
It's weird.
And they're dropping two episodes.
Why don't know if you're there when we're there, you stand up and ask them that.
Why did you do that?
Hey, I have a question for you guys.
I got a question for you guys.
I'm really, I want to know this.
I got you all here.
Why'd you drop it?
Why'd you drop it two of them last night?
It's a line of people behind you.
All dressed up.
Yeah.
Why did you drop it?
Yeah, we wanted to do it.
We got a review show too.
We would have to talk to before this.
Come on.
Come on.
A little class.
Do you think maybe they're not dropping that much news?
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At celebration?
He thinks they're going to drop everything.
He's losing his mind.
Thinks you're going to drop news, their pants, everything.
You don't think they're going to draw.
All right.
So before we get into it.
Here we go with this guy.
Let's go, asshole face.
Hey, kids are listening.
That's right.
Well, kids should learn that that's a great insult to call you.
You got a great laugh, man.
You got that like I just insulted you.
Who, her?
No, you.
Oh.
There it is.
It's true.
It's true.
laughs at his own jokes that makes me laugh harder.
And it makes you feel like, oh, he got me.
Damn it.
Well, how do you think I get myself through my days?
It's true.
No, there's nobody in the room and I'm just cracking jokes.
I'm like Mark and Stephen in Moon Night.
I'm just going back and forward.
Oh, here we go.
All right.
So celebration, what was that?
It was a good one.
Teahoo.
Yeah, it was a teahee-he-he-lap.
All right, before we get into the questions.
So celebration, though.
Yes, you think.
Realistically, what do you think is going to happen?
You think nothing?
No, no.
Just going to parade people around Yoda costumes all week?
And they're going to have the Will Row Hood, ice cream thing run.
They're going to have a Yoda impersonation competition where I'll be entering.
I would love you.
So that will be the premier event.
But other than that, I think that they will have an indoor trailer.
Yes.
They're going to have a bad badge trailer.
Yes.
And perhaps a Mandalorian season three snippet.
Agreed.
That's all you think we're getting?
I think we might get some Asoka pictures.
Okay.
I don't think we're getting anything new announced.
like TV show-wise that has not been tinted at.
Like we might get a High Republic something.
Like the cast comes out or something?
No, but that's all been announced.
It has not been announced.
High Republic has not been announced?
We've been talking about it like a has been.
It was rumor that it was come out.
That could be cool.
Because remember when Eternals was announced?
I mean, there's, yeah.
They brought out the whole cast.
Maybe it's something like that.
I don't think we're going to get any out of left field new show
that we haven't thought about before.
or like Vader show.
And you say no movies.
No, they're not really.
Nah.
After they went quiet on
Patty Jenkins and it's been radio
silence since then about that.
That was the only movie really that they had
going forward, right?
What if they're like skirt, skirt, gotcha,
Patty Jenkins is coming out right now.
What's that?
Skirt, skirt, skirting.
Come on.
Christian knows that.
Oh, wow.
Steph just said that.
If that old turd knows it,
and you should know it.
And you're older than I am.
Skirt, skirt.
Yeah.
Reverse.
Listen.
You're nuts,
the two of you.
You're full of it.
What do you think?
What do you think?
Tyca Batia is going to be there.
And what's he going to do?
You're going to announce this movie,
what it finally is.
You can get in the heat of,
so when does love and thunder come out?
June.
July.
July.
Yes, I do.
I think he's going to,
I think he will announce it.
But that's,
maybe, yeah.
As I said,
I think it's a strong probability
that they'll announce one movie.
It is about a,
about a 40, 30, 40 percent they'll announce two,
which I think would be a mistake.
What's your thoughts on Tyca always popping up now in these random,
not random,
but he's like the quirky,
goofy sidekick.
Stay on Target here,
right.
All right.
So,
come on big thing and we'll talk about that.
But I think they announced that movie.
Now,
I am not saying that it means that any one of these movies will happen.
I'm just saying they will announce it.
So you don't think they've learned their lesson.
No.
Okay.
I agree with you on that.
No.
I agree with you on that.
And there is no, this is, there's DC movies being announced left and right.
There's Marvel movies being announced left and right.
Star Wars is nowhere in the conversation as far as movies go.
Right.
They got to have something.
And you think that's chapped in the butts.
They got to get something out there.
They're probably getting pressure.
You got to announce something.
Because it's like, that is the moneymaker for, I told you.
If I never seen a Star Wars movie ever again, I don't care.
But we're the minority in that.
There are people that.
Now remember, the other reason why I think there will be TV shows announced because,
Because this was supposed to happen last year.
The Star Wars celebration.
It was pushed back again.
There's a lot of news.
There's a lot of development meetings that happen.
There's a lot of conversation that happens leading up to within a year period.
And I also use the investors meeting thing that they did online, which is still probably the most amount of news we ever got out of a Star Wars.
That was the thing where you and I, we did it digitally.
Yes.
We had up the screen of all the shows.
Yes.
That was huge.
That was huge.
And that was in 2020.
Was it that long ago?
Yeah, and the announced, and what they announced inside of that was all these different shows.
Not Nights, Rangers.
Everything.
They announced a bunch of different things.
And stuff that's coming out in 2023, they announced.
So that you're giving itself a three-year period.
So I do think that at that point in time, you're going to get at least one or two new shows that are announced for sure.
Whether it's animation, I think there'll probably be an animation show that's announced also, a brand-new animated series.
I think that they're going to have more stuff on the video games.
There's rumors that Andor is actually going to three seasons, not two now.
Okay, now hold on a second.
I read that.
Didn't they say that Andrew was originally plotted for five, but they're going to go to three?
That's the news I read.
That's what I read as well.
It's not five anymore.
It's three seasons that they're going to do.
But remember that the first two were already shot.
It's like 12 episodes, but like six apiece, something like that.
Okay.
So maybe there's a long-form story that they realize they can wrap up
And three, if they go longer, they're going to be stretching.
Yeah, which is, look, if they have it, and if they have the confidence in it and they believe in the show and there's a plan behind it, then go for.
What the hell?
I mean, that's the difference with television.
Who cares?
Because then if you don't like and or, then you wait for Asoka.
And I think as far as you guys talk about Asoka, they are going to show something from Asoka.
You think that footage?
They've had her in studio too many times, I think not to shoot something extra.
I don't know about a trailer, but I think of behind, did you say behind the scenes?
We're not getting, if we don't get a trailer.
Yeah, something.
They've had her in studio too much.
I haven't seen Andor yet, anything.
There's no way they're showing a trailer for Asoka.
No, yeah.
No, I don't think trailer.
I think behind the scenes, like they do like a train video and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Behind the scenes kind of feature at for people who are there for it,
where they're talking about it because they're going to have an Asoka panel or something.
And Hayden Christensen's going to be there for it.
He's talked about this not the last time he's playing Vader.
That's kind of what they're hinting at.
Maybe they give you something of what they're, maybe there's a scene or something that they show between the two of them.
Who knows, right?
Or maybe they show, maybe they show first, first,
footage or
first look at Thrawn
live action
which is something
they might do
his image in the
Osoka
Yeah that'd be sick
Yeah but I think
Andor
Mandalorian
I think we get a trailer
for a Mandalorian also
I also think I read
It might have been last week
That Mickelson
Is not playing him
Who said that?
I thought it came out like
There was
There's either they said
There's proof
or the way it's lining up
He's not going to be doing it
Oh really?
The Lars Mickelson
I didn't hear that
But maybe
But that's a great point
By the way
That I think we find out who.
Well, I think we find out who the cast is.
Okay.
I can see that.
Yeah.
I think more so you're going to get cast.
But again, that's not a new announcement.
Yeah.
In the sense of like, that is.
If it was Lars?
No, no, no.
Hold on a second.
Yeah.
Put him aside.
Pump the brakes.
Get your hair going again.
Give me the mo.
Shut your mind.
Hey, Mo.
Pump the brakes over there.
That's not a new project.
No, true.
So I'm saying we're not getting new projects announced.
I think we get that high republic new project.
But see,
we've been talking about.
that for so long.
But it doesn't matter.
Yeah,
they haven't announced it.
It's not official,
but we've been talking about.
I think Lando would also.
They're not suddenly going to go
and coming in 2025 dash randar.
That's not going to happen.
Maybe not, but I think
if it does,
I'll lose my mind.
Yeah,
I don't think they're going to do that.
No, no.
And then I'm going to leave you guys
and then I'll be like,
here's our dash randar.
But I wonder,
do we know,
do we have a,
I should probably shall look
at, maybe we'll do it next week,
but to look at a full schedule
of what they have out there.
They don't have a full schedule.
I don't think so.
I haven't seen it.
It's all, because again, things have changed.
COVID messed everything up.
Yeah.
I'm curious now to think of, okay, so let's think back to that 2020, the investors day,
all the things up there.
What have we not seen?
Rangers was canceled.
That was canceled.
We got Visions.
We got Bad Batch.
We got Assoca.
Lando.
Lando is the, we don't know what's going on.
Okay.
You might get something with Lando.
Maybe Donald Glover comes out.
Okay.
Okay.
That's what I mean.
Like, there's going to be those types of announcements.
But again,
I do think we'll get something new.
I think we'll get something new.
Okay. Okay.
Now, you're the guru.
I'm a novice.
But I don't know.
And I think television movies, I would put a lot of money down that they're going to announce at least one movie.
I think that anybody going against that.
But it seems like Lord and Miller gone.
Game of Thrones guys, gone.
No argument on the side.
No argument on the side.
I think that Ryan Johnson, gone.
No matter what you, no matter what you announce.
Yeah.
Rightfully so, every fan will have that reaction.
Right.
And I think.
Rightfully so.
And you don't think they realize that like,
who we really dropped the ball in this film
and getting people hype for these things.
No,
because if the movie's coming out in two years
or three years from now,
you want to get the...
That's their goals,
what they want to try to do.
I think that Tyca's probably been working on this thing.
Remember, though, Tyka is infused in the Star Wars universe already.
Yeah, but Tyka's involved in everything now.
But he's not involved in a way that he just has his name on it.
He's directed episodes of Manelorian.
He's been a character of Manelorian.
Yeah, but he's been so busy on,
post-production on Love and Thunder.
They're going to go up to the wire on that film,
getting it ready to go.
So he ain't doing Star Wars right now.
But when it's over,
that's the whole point.
When he's over.
The movie's going to be over in July.
Hold on now.
But he's still working on that.
I don't know.
Let me ask you this.
Let's go to the panel here.
What do you want and a Star Wars?
Like,
you think about the fandoms.
The fans are out there.
We're loving all this TV stuff we're getting.
What is everyone looking for in a movie?
Because nothing's going to make him happy.
These past three films have not made anyone happy.
You've got to stop trying to connect things to,
Right. Not a damn Skywalker at all. You got to get away from that. But I think that's a problem.
Expectations. It's like that's why you look, you want to take a shot and you want to try to do this High Republic thing. I don't care enough about it yet.
Right. Make me care about it. That's fine. Old Republic is where I'd like to go.
What's the stuff that Laura Kelly's loving right now? That's the High Republic stuff. She's going nuts on that stuff. So I'm wondering if the fandom is that's like that's what they want.
If you're not doing the Skywalker's and we're done with this, what do you?
It looks like they're going High Republic, whether it's.
It's the rumored series we're talking about.
Oh, the other one that we didn't talk about for celebrations,
acolyte.
We'll get some stuff on acolyte.
That's what I meant instead of High Republic.
I'm sorry,
I meant acolyte.
That was announced.
That was another one.
I'm talking about,
Mike, the one that I'm talking about,
Mike is the one that rumored one about like that stranger things.
Right, right, right.
With like kids, Amandala, Steinberg.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no, no, no.
Mandela Steinberg is, is, is, uh,
that's acolyte.
The one, the one, yeah, that's acolyte.
I'm talking about that rumored stranger things.
That one, I think, will potentially get announced if that's, okay.
But that goes to the point.
Both of those shows, High Republic.
The video game that they put that trailer out to,
they'll probably learn a little bit more about too, High Republic.
But is that the,
I think they're leaning in the High Republic stuff.
There's so much there.
But that video game one, is that the one that's from the,
the beleagued studio that a lot of people don't like because there's a lot of problems
behind the scenes and they're like, don't support this.
game because your company's trash?
I think so, but I mean, how, how loud is that?
Because it doesn't seem, because it seems you get ground swelling going on something like that.
I don't know.
The trailer, the trailer, it's really well.
People looked like they were looking forward to that game pretty much so.
But I don't, I don't know.
Okay, I digress.
Either way, lots to come out and we're going to have a lot to talk about.
And the goal is, as I said, Mike, myself and stuff will be there.
And the idea is that we would go see a panel and then we would do like a video like right
afterwards and just put it right up on the channel.
So that's the deal.
of what we're going to try to do.
It's three days.
Four, right?
Four days, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Yeah, and they've got some gohanes to do that for four days.
I need to know because I have to have four stellar Star Wars outfits.
Are you going to cosplay all four days?
I think so.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I haven't been before, so I might as well go really hard in it.
You absolutely should.
All right.
So let's get into some questions here because there are some questions.
And there's other stuff that we could talk about that had come out.
But we'll do questions.
And like I said, I couldn't pull all the questions up.
But I'm going to start with Facebook.
Don't tell us what you can't do.
Just tell what you can do.
All right, here you go.
Quiet, dummy.
All right.
So here we go.
The first one, hey, Christian can't wait for Obi-Wan.
Would you be surprised at the series,
and this is from Tom Foster,
would you be surprised that the series has a similar ending to Sith,
with Sidius coming to Vader's rescue.
We'd love to see Sidious getting seriously pissed off with Vader.
Closest we've seen is in Jedi,
where Vader tells Palms about Luke,
although that was more mild annoyance.
I do think that we're going to see,
I mean, the emperor.
I think he's going to be one of the surprise people that show up.
You think old Ian McDermite's going to show up?
Yeah.
Yeah, that guy loves to,
every time he's popping up.
They're not.
He should be in it.
And I think he'll be in it.
I don't think that they're going to repeat the whole thing where he comes and saves him again.
They've done it before.
Why are we going to do that?
No, they're going to leave.
They don't need to save him.
No.
He's going to whoop some ass.
I think Obi-1 is going to get, you know,
but they talked about we got to get to the dialogue of,
when I left you, I've.
Yeah.
So we've got to figure out how we're going to make that play.
All those.
I think it'll be one of those more.
I'll say this.
I think it'll be more of a Red Skull, Steve Rogers.
We're like on for Black of the,
the bridge and is pulling them apart and they're being,
like they're being drawn away from each other.
Like I think they'll be pulled apart.
Something.
Something will be physically.
Like the Ray and Kylo scene.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you see Captain?
I know exactly what you're talking about.
The Captain America scene.
He's talking about where Red Skull and Captain America
the first adventure.
Oh, yeah.
Split apart.
That would be great if they do something.
Something outside of their control.
separate them.
And it'll look, yeah.
It could be,
yeah,
it could be.
Um,
yeah,
it's,
did you guys see there is apparently leaked footage of battle between the two of them.
No,
I wouldn't want to watch that.
I don't want to see that.
I watched it.
Come on now.
What do you do it's a matter with you?
It's not.
It's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
it's,
first of all, if it's real, it's phenomenal.
What's a matter with you?
A lot.
Um, but,
but if it's,
it's,
it's great.
It's great.
It's,
And that's all I'll say.
It's that you don't have to.
And enough so where Disney's not,
not even trying to pull it because it's not, it's nothing.
It's,
Yeah,
but is it,
you expect,
it's not,
it's not.
It doesn't give away anything.
It just shows you.
Or is it like that Assoca and Darth Mall thing with this like,
no,
that's a fan film.
No,
this looks pretty real.
Okay.
This looks pretty real.
No,
I'm not going to find that.
Yeah,
I don't want to,
uh,
I don't know,
maybe it's wrong,
but it,
maybe it's not,
but it's,
but it looks,
um,
If it is, it looks fantastic and it gets me pretty hyped.
All right, let's get to,
let's get to the next one here.
This is from Luke Stutter.
What news are, oh, we just covered all this.
What news you're hoping to see at Celebration?
So we just, we see with Luke, we knew you were going to ask.
And so we asked that.
Craig McRabby, at Celebration next month,
you believe that there will be more of a push of announcing
upcoming films or double down on new shows?
We kind of did, I said double down on the shows.
Yeah.
While the Disney Plus shows have been doing very well,
what are your thoughts?
And thank you.
It's okay.
We knew that these questions are coming.
We answered them right.
Julian Elliott,
what is your thoughts on Obi-Wan show
premiering with the first two episodes on May 27th?
We did all.
Wow.
Look at us.
We covered all your questions.
James Frizzell,
what is the one thing you are each looking forward to the most in the Obi-Wan series?
Oh.
That's a good question.
I'm looking, honestly, for me, ladies first.
Definitely the conversations between Obie and Anakin or Darts.
Like, I just, there's so much in that relationship.
It's so to much.
Mutual, tumutual.
To mutual.
To mutual.
And intense.
And there's like a brotherhood there and a broken bond.
And, you know, I live for the drama.
But I think it's so deep that I, that's what I've been waiting for for years.
Okay.
For me, I want to see, I cannot wait to see, Owen and, and Owen and Obi-One.
Yeah.
I want to see the two of them.
I want to see, I want, we talk about, like, why there's that much.
Well, we talk about the dialogue between Vader and them.
I want to those like, now, just a crazy old man.
I don't want to turn out like his father and all this.
I want to see that stuff.
Well, that's what is so encouraging about that article we just read,
that how,
and this is why I'm so,
this is why I'm so pumped about Debra Chow doing it,
and Yuma Grego said it.
She knows this world inside and out.
Like, I can't tell you how much,
like I read people's faces, right?
And so when I was watching that,
that,
with the gallery series,
and I bring this up all the time,
but then she's listening to
Faloni.
The room table.
And she's listening, but you see her,
she looks like a kid in a candy shop.
And she's like just listening.
She looks like she looks like,
She's like the best student in class.
You know, like when you see those people,
when you went into class and you're looking at those people
that are in class and you're just like, oh,
and they're just eating up all the information.
And then you can see her becoming a master in that class.
And you're just watching it and you're like,
and that's why they gave her,
I'm clearly not the only person that thought that
because they gave her six episodes
of the most highly anticipated Star Wars property.
Don't even talk about television.
Talk about Star Wars property.
This movie is,
this movie does exactly what he's talking about,
it ties together the original trilogy
and the prequels, and
she's aware of it. So
they haven't done all that, that's what I'm pumped
about. They haven't done the gallery for a book of Boba yet,
have they? I don't think they will. No,
they did the behind the highway. I want to know
about Steph Green, because I think she's like
Debra Chow. She was pretty good.
It was not episode. Episode 2. Yeah. I like
her episode. Yeah. Nobody's talking about her
episode as much. Well, because they just got
bogged down by this as an even Boba Fett show.
Yeah, it did. You're right.
Because that's the second episode when you're, I agree with you.
And the dude who did the Mortal Kombat episode was pretty good.
Kevin Tarnan-an-shirt.
Oh, yeah.
He was good, too.
And I think, but you're not, you're not wrong.
It was all the stuff that happened, Mandalorian 2.5 overshadowed everybody.
Which I'm okay with.
But yeah, but it's, I, the landlord.
But when it comes to Bryce Dallas Howard, that was another one.
Yeah, excellent.
They're like, oh, they're giving her another episode of Asoka.
Give her a whole damn.
season of something. But on the other hand, with her,
she could be busy acting too.
That's true. That's what, you get, look,
Debra Chow's director, Brace Ellis Howard,
actors. Doing both. Yeah. So you've got to,
she's got a worker schedule. She's busy, but I'm,
I just think that she would want to.
Oh, I think. You talk about Debra Chow.
Watching her in that gallery season, and we see
it all the time on panels. I agree with you. You see
actors and actors, especially
directors like, I've been a fan of this since I
was a kid. And you just feel
that that's the line that their managers,
make sure you hit it with this crowd,
make sure you hit the Star Wars inspired me.
But with her, you see it in her eyes.
You're like, that's a kid that's been in it from the beginning.
Because it was the line that she said when she talked about that episode she did with Boca Tan.
She's just like, we're just like playing with toys in a sandbox.
Yeah.
And you're like, okay.
You get it.
You got it.
I got it.
All right.
So here's the next one and probably a lot of questions here.
Okay.
Chris Morris, under or over 50% you'll include this question.
Over.
All right.
Alex Trunay, do you think that?
We'll see Ben Kenobi's first interaction with Luke before the end of the series.
First interaction with Luke?
I'm sure that he's already interacted with him, I think.
Oh, that's an interesting question.
Yeah, but that's a good question.
We don't know if he has.
We don't know if he handed him off.
And now the first time we're seeing, he's coming to visit and see how he is.
Because we're clearly seeing him watch him from a distance.
And he's never met him.
Maybe he's never like.
Because Luke knows him in episode four.
He's like, he knows who he is.
Well, he knows him.
But he doesn't know he's his own.
Like, he knows this crazy hermit.
Right.
He just says to him, he's just like, I wonder if he means old man.
Whatever he says to Owen.
He means old Ben.
Old Ben, right, because he knows old Ben.
Yeah.
He knows him.
So, like, the question is, how well does he know old Ben?
And does Owen, like, I don't want you hanging out with that guy.
He's just a crazy old Herman, whatever he said.
But what if he's like, I told you, like, we're meeting.
Like, stop, you, I don't want you over there.
Maybe, maybe.
And stay away from my kid.
I think we're going to see.
It's going to be good.
We're going to, that's why they talked about,
Kathleen Kennedy's talked about how they originally intended this to be season one.
And now there's a potential.
of season two.
It makes me nervous.
You're nervous about this because you always said,
like just stand alone once and done.
I am.
Because the,
but the question is,
if there's still questions that are unanswered.
And there's still ways that they could loop together.
The problem is that you've got to get away
from the Vader part of it.
That's the thing.
You can't be ready to back in season two.
You can't bring Vader back again.
If you're going to bring all these loops
and if it's separate adventures of Obi-Wan
doing something else and he's,
and now going off what you're talking about with Owen
and you start to see that
relationship goes sour in season two, okay.
Maybe I'd be convinced, but no more Vader again.
And they're going to, and they're going to be.
And this is coming from somebody who said Vader needs to be in this one.
He does.
Yeah.
But if you rely on it too much, that's when it starts to get sour.
I would have said two seasons if Vader wasn't in the first one.
Right.
If you were just establishing Obi-Wan, what he's doing.
Right.
Second season, we're bringing the big guy in.
Well, look at K2SO.
Can't do that reversed.
It's not going to be in an indoor range.
And, Steph, remember you were bummed about that.
Bumbed.
But now.
But now, because you know he's going to be in season two, war three.
Yeah.
So, and it's the setup of how he meets him and how he figures that out.
What do you think if they announce a Vader series?
I would, I would be all, I'd be so on board.
Free New Hope, post-O-B-Wy-Won.
I would be so on board of the Vegas series.
Yeah.
If you did, if you did six, six episodes of Vader series.
Like him hunting down Jedi and right after he puts the mask on and going,
Lords of the Sith, they made that.
Okay.
And the ratings through that show would be through the group.
but people would and you'd get the
you're going to get into the comments here
oh we don't either they're going to lie on Vader
you're full of shit if you don't think you watch that show
that's like Mike Tyson
when he came it could
Mike Tyson today could fight
anybody on the street
and you still pay to watch them fight
because it's Mike Tyson yeah
so just don't fight him on an airplane
I'd see it Vader
oh my gosh what do you think what are you doing
what are you doing what are you think is happening
I said I said that LISC he's going to have
I said that guy who did that
has will win every party of
Hey, what's the dumbest thing you ever did?
I got it.
I got you.
Harold, tell him your story.
Tell him the story.
No, I don't want to tell it again.
No, you have to.
You have to tell them.
What is it?
Like, I threw up on a bus one time and a lady that got kicked off the bus.
I got you beat.
I got you beat.
Yeah, no worries.
No worries.
Idiot.
Dumb dumb, dumb.
Yeah.
No, people would definitely watch it.
And there's so much, I feel like Darth Vader's one of the most famous.
You want to know a show.
Let's step and finish.
You know, someone pointed out.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Someone pointed out in the comments.
I like Mike a lot
He cuts Steph and Christian off every episode
Do I do I do I
Did you not see what you just did to her
She's in the middle of the point
She had two words out
You know they used to give me that crap on DC movie news with Roxy
Oh really?
Yeah
Maybe something about me makes you feel like
I don't believe that women should talk
And I feel like I have to cut them off
That's exactly you know someone's gonna clip that out
Here we go
Here we go
Now you're done
Now you're done
White guy on talking Star Wars
Just because I feel so better
What Mike just did to you
Go ahead
Oh okay I have the first
floor. Now let me try to remember
what I was thinking. You're talking about Vader and being Tyson.
Okay, yeah, Vader's one of the
greatest characters ever, but there's still
a lot, he pulled off
a simple character, but there's so many
questions that I always have when I watch
Vader. Like, why are you this
complicit? I know it's
the way of the Sith, but
I think that in the books you get a lot more
information on that, but it's never really been
as explored in live action, and I think
he's the perfect character to do it through.
I agree, and I think you can get more of that
tragedy with him.
And I think that's what people are probably worried about,
that you're going to take away the mystery for him.
And people are probably also all great,
and they're just going to turn him into what they did with Bobafat.
And I understand that you've got to get the right director,
you've got to get the right people to do it.
But I think that you absolutely could do a Vader series.
That is a worry that they're going to make him like Vader.
BobaFat.
Let me ask you guys this.
I got a question for the floor.
What is a one series you never want to see?
Jar Jar.
I'll tell you what I want to see.
A jar jar series.
That's a given.
Yeah.
For me,
you want to know what I don't.
don't ever want to see a Yoda series.
Never.
He's going to be in High Republic.
I don't mind that.
I don't mind him as a character.
I don't want a Yoda series.
And it's funny because when they don't want a one.
When Lucas, I'm with you, when Lucas film was bought by Disney, the big rumors that were
going to happen was you're going to get a Han Solo movie.
You're going to get a Bobafet movie and you're going to get a Yoda movie.
Those are the ones that came out.
And it's like, no.
A Yoda movie.
You don't need a Yoda movie.
It's like, oh, here's Yoda when he was young at 100 years old and learning how to do
the thing.
And now we know that he probably just started talking in 100 years.
No, we have Grogu.
But honestly, though, stuff, that's probably one of the reasons why you won't see it.
Because now you've got Grogu and you have these things.
But I would like to see a young Yoda in, or younger Yoda.
He's not so much younger, but a younger Yoda in the High Republic series that they do in Ackleite.
You probably see him in Ackleite.
Well, the reason I say that, because I could see him going, oh, Obi-Wan.
We found out that time when he was by himself and made it great.
Everyone loved it.
Like, what's Yoda doing before Luke comes to on Degaba?
he's hiding. Let's tell that story.
Nah. Nah, you don't need that.
He's just chilling alone. He's watching Netflix.
Yeah. Obi-1 was chilling alone, too, in the desert.
But we're going to get a great story because there's great.
You know there's someone, some execs.
Like, what about, oh, Yoda?
Well, we'll have the puppets. We'll save money on that.
We haven't tapped into Yoda yet.
And he's, yeah, he's Degaba. We got a set.
We got the volume. You can build a swamp.
We'll have, we'll have stormtroopers come to Degaba.
Yeah.
You use Yoda the same way that you use Luke.
I know, sparingly.
No, you use Luke in Mandalorian.
And you use Yoda.
They should definitely use Yoda because one,
and now that they're going to be using,
you would assume,
Palpatine,
potentially Quigone,
yeah.
You got to use Yoda at some point.
And they might even use Yoda in Obi-Wan?
No,
no, no, no, no.
They might use him in Obi-Wan.
No.
Not necessary.
Just even if he's talking to him,
you could talk to him.
Remember, he sent him there.
I know that.
He sent him there.
So, like, if he's talking to him,
fine.
I don't even have a message,
but I would much rather see him in action in Ackleite,
And another.
No, because I don't want to talk to Yoda because it lends when we meet Ben for the first time in New Hope.
You just feel as this old man's been alone.
It's just been out in the desert.
Like, he's not talking to Yoda.
Like, hey, man.
I'm tired.
What's you up to, buddy?
He clearly was talking to him from when you see, you're going to go to the Degabah system to, and there you'll find Master Yoda when he tells him.
Yeah, but I don't want to like, they got weekly conversations checking in with each other.
Yeah, they're zooming.
Yeah, they're zooming each other.
Nah.
Yeah, I'm just saying that if he showed up, it wouldn't be out of, like, it wouldn't be crazy that he did.
How did he get there?
Just saying, you didn't watch rebels.
In rebels, he's able to communicate through not, not physically.
He's able to.
Oh, okay.
I thought physically he showed up and I was like, how the hell you do that?
No, he's able to communicate to him.
Yeah, I know that.
Yeah, but they use like technology.
Yeah, yeah.
They use technology where Ray and Kylo don't have to.
Oh, man, I guess I really should have watched all those shows.
You should watch rebels before.
Rebels is really, yeah, you should.
Rebels is great.
Or at least watch, I keep telling you this on Disney Plus,
they have essential Clone Wars episodes in like 20th.
Someone gave me a looper.com or something did.
These are the essential Clone Wars episodes.
I started watching.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So let's get to next question.
Next question.
All right.
Here we go.
Still on Facebook.
Probably not to get to everybody's today because we talked about a lot of other stuff,
which is great.
Okay.
So here is Harry Andrew.
How long do you see the Mandalorian going for?
I'm not sure that they said how many seasons to expect.
But if they reclaim Mandelaar in season three,
Does the show have much more to do?
Or you can see them carrying on with stories such as Assoca.
That's a good question too.
How many?
That's a great question.
Maybe.
And I don't think it's likely, but it's also possible that something like a Mandalorian could announce how many seasons they're going to.
Because sometimes they do that.
Sometimes they say, okay, our final season.
We're going to do season five, like Stranger Things, for example.
This is the second to last season.
Ozark just announced their final season.
So maybe they do at celebration.
Mandalorian will have season three come out and then four will be the last.
Yeah.
I think four is enough for Mandalorian.
I think that you can get past three.
It also depends on what's going to happen with Grogu.
Where does Grogu go?
I want them to assume, like, to start to establish the outer regions or the unknown regions.
And they'll have to do it in Asoka.
Because once they do, the unknown regions can be a very...
Is that past the outer rim?
It's, yeah, it's where Thrawn.
in rebels.
It's where they are, and it's an explanation
of where the hell they are during
everything kind of going on afterwards, too.
And that can be an
explanation for where Grogu is if you wanted to
fight in out in the unknown regions
because it's like, okay, and then you want
to bring them back, because remember Grogu,
if they wanted to,
in episode 10, if they ever did episode
10, if we were talking about in fantasy,
where Ray is 40 years old,
Daisy Really is 40 years old, and
Grogo comes back as a
100, 200 year old, young creature?
Hell, man.
Like, and where's he been?
Well, he's been out there in the unknown regions fighting.
How?
There's a way to explain it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm just saying if you wanted to do with them.
Do you guys think they're going to kill off Dinn?
I think Dinn eats it.
I think Groga survives.
I think he doesn't.
Oh, my God.
I can't even.
Because I'm thinking about this,
and I always, there's so many different timelines that we are in with Star Wars.
Like, was it this pre-empirier, post this and that.
I was like, oh, yeah, this is even before the new movies.
We never seen, but again, it's a giant galaxy.
Like, I want this show to go on for many more seasons.
Like, I look at Daredevil.
One of the best television we ever seen comic book movie-wise.
In three seasons, I'm still like, no, I want it.
We need it more.
And you can go on and on with those.
You can go on and on.
Like, I think D-Din.
You want Dinn.
How many seasons do you want it to go?
Because I think, to me, Dinn reminds me of Maximus from Gladiator.
And I think that he's going to have a same.
I don't want him to.
I don't think Maximus should.
Seeing him, and I think it was the first time we revealed this hell when he was dead, you know,
going to die.
and he heals him, right?
That was it?
No, he healed them early in the season,
but he's finally pulled up the element.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I'm like,
I just want this character to exist.
I just wanted to keep existing.
Yeah.
I think he's a great character.
I'd say six episodes we're going for that, right?
They've been eight.
Yeah.
I'm going to have to do this again.
I say 10 more seasons.
I was talking.
Yeah, you were actually.
My time.
Listen, I do not yield my time to the floor.
This whole show has been here done.
Well, I think that I'd be okay with four seasons, but I will say this.
I think they've done the best job telling the politics of Mandelor than they ever have
with any other planet.
And I'm so interested in it.
So if they find a way to pull off the new ruling of Mandelor, I would be invested for 10 seasons.
Well, that's also a great point, though, too, because that's why I will say when it was Harry
that asked the question, right?
if they established the reconnection of Mandelor and be able to...
Yeah, because then you can start to build out Mandelor as exactly what Steph is saying here.
You build it out season by season.
You can go...
Because I don't know.
I wonder how long...
I think Boca Tan's going to have a much bigger role in this season.
So going into the history of what I've been trying to catch up with, the Death Watch,
they were kind of the zealots, the outer zealots.
Yeah.
It wasn't Bogotan part of them to...
Yeah.
She swathed.
She swapped when...
when they were going to assassinate Sotene.
So, so.
But she was in a time.
She was an extremist.
Yeah,
they were extremists in this order
that went off on like the moon,
right, of Mandelor?
Yeah.
And then he hit out on the moon.
But she came back around and then in rebels.
That's why you really should watch rebels.
It comes back around and she starts to,
and that's why they even address it where she was given the, the saver.
Yeah.
She didn't win in battle.
Boketan's nephew,
uh,
yeah,
Ancestor who went crazy with the sword, right?
Well, that was a long time ago.
But her niece, her niece is the one who gave her the saber.
Gotcha.
That's Sabre's cursed, essentially.
Like whoever they feel it is, whoever has it, it's corrupted them and whatnot.
Yeah.
But so Sabine is Bo's niece?
Is it the case?
Maybe not.
Their family.
I forget how they're connected.
I thought, you're right.
I was wrong.
It's not a niece.
The Mandalore history.
Her mom is insane.
Yeah.
No, Sotene was not Sabine's daughter.
You know what I found out fascinating too?
When I was doing like these deep dive research that the mandolore and all that and whatnot is, is Filoni.
I mean, a lot of the stuff that he built.
A lot of the stuff like, that he built out.
I go, because I went to like, where did it start?
You know, when did Mandelor come in?
And I knew it wasn't with Boba Fett and Django and all them, but I was like, oh, it's really Faloni.
He, the lore.
That's what Steph's talking about.
Like it's, he built it out tremendously.
And I think that that's why Filoni got, I mean,
Favre got so fascinated with it because he was involved as a character.
He was pre-previsla.
And now he's basically playing one of his ancestors, which I love.
But anyway, so that's, I do think that it'll go on for at least four seasons.
And Mike and stuff could be right.
I want 10.
It could go on longer.
For me, it's more so that's how you connect the story.
And if what is set up, we'll see at the end of this season, right, if they set up more.
You're right, though.
the way to go is the Maximus death.
You're 100% right.
Storytelling wise from a script, actor, storytelling,
that's the way to go out.
Yeah, because what else is it?
I want him in the universe now.
Remember, they still could open up
where he goes back to that woman from season one.
Yeah.
He had that connection with her with the, remember that village?
Oh, in the village.
Yeah.
And he lives a life of service.
Also could happen.
That's what I want.
Getting a little action on the side.
You want him to go.
I wanted to show up to where helmet comes off.
That's, I feel like that's going to have.
Oh, yeah.
Come on, man.
I feel like that's going to happen.
So then.
So then.
So then if we ever need him, he's there on the planet.
That's what I mean.
So yeah.
It's possible.
That's it.
All right, let's get to a few more.
Get a boner here.
Enjoy the show, kids.
All right.
So now the next question here, this comes in from Ryan Rosmilia.
Thoughts on the prophecy of the one who will bring force, balance to the force actually
being fulfilled with Anakin.
At that time, the Jedi were the dominant force in the galaxy.
Could the balance that was foretold?
Actually, I've been to bring the dark side back into the fold.
It is a thought that has always stuck with me.
Stay classy San Diego.
I know it's hard for me to think.
I try to, to be honest with you,
I try to ignore the prophecy now
because I think it's so muddled.
Yeah.
It's like who.
The prophecy of who brings balance to the force.
Yeah, because I think the new trilogy ruined it.
I think it did.
Yeah, the new trilogy ruined that because like is Ray?
The one who brought balance to the force because.
Right.
Because she's a sky.
She ends up being a Skywalker.
And clearly Anakin didn't bring balance to the force because
somehow Palpatine came back.
Thinking about it again, the new trilogy.
And there are,
are things I do love in it and characters I do love.
Man, it's a mess.
It really messed up everything.
It was a mess.
It was an absolute mess.
The TV, the TV show, the TV shows are going to have a lot of work to do to try
to fill in a lot of gaps.
And that's what they've been trying to do already with the cloning stuff going on in
Mandalorian and all that.
There's a ton of that they're going to do.
A ton of it.
Yeah.
So, Steph, any thoughts on the balance of the force?
I don't know.
I go back and forth on this one.
I don't think that they,
even need to call to it anymore.
I think that it's kind of outrun its time,
like this storyline.
They've already kind of established that there's not one chosen one.
Yeah, no more, no more.
All right, let's get back to,
I'm actually going to switch to Twitter here.
Oh.
And we have from Elias Martinez,
is there a chance that we're going to see
Kenobi and Vader talk to one another?
And I mean, like, have a full-on conversation
regarding Kenobi's guilt or Anakin's anger.
There's a lot to mind here for Kenobi as a character.
I hope the show deals with these things with care and depth.
I hope this will be the best show.
I definitely think you'll see them talk.
So, okay, so that's a great question for me because I'm like, okay,
and Obi-1 leaves him.
Yeah.
He's dead.
To burn his face off.
He's dead.
Yeah.
In his head, he's dead.
Yeah.
There's got to be that moment of, oh, my God.
Yeah.
There's got to be.
Yeah, I mean, but I also think that if they do it the right way.
Ha!
Ha!
Hey, remember me?
But I think if they do that juxtaposition of going back and showing flashbacks to the two of them like,
Oh, yeah.
Show them their brothers.
Showing young Hayden and, and Ewan McGregor in TV Clone Wars.
Oh, my God, a flashback.
Oh, yeah.
And then combining that to their scene.
I think you're going to get a full on episode of Anakin and Obi-Wan and then Vader.
Yeah, and then it would be crazy if Asoka shows up in one of those.
I don't.
I know that.
Look who you're talking about.
talking to.
Listen,
sometimes you know,
Sky Guy?
Stupid name.
Sky Guy.
Yeah,
it wasn't great.
But so think about
the first opening of Rise of Revenge
of the Sith.
Yes.
The two of them going on,
on Grevis' ship,
that's awesome.
Yeah.
And how they're referencing the stuff
in the past,
that this and that is like,
that's,
we've got to see an episode of that.
Yes.
And the thing that I'd want to see more of though
is that even though that is,
it's great to have them together
in those moments in the Sith.
It's bogged down by all the CGI
and all the boss and everything, too.
Like to have like an actual.
And as I was talking about like,
most episode, the most recent episode of like Moon Night, right?
Like, so Moon Night is, no spoilers.
No, no spoilers.
But it's, it's all infused with like story and acting and no big, I mean, there's some
set pieces and things.
You're talking about last night's episode.
Yes.
Okay.
And so that is the type of stuff that I want to see with these two characters.
Like, just dive deep and let's get to the raw motion of everything you just talked about
and how they were left.
So, Steph, do you think that there's going to be a conversation between the two of them for
sure?
Yeah, definitely.
There's just no way.
I feel like that's going to be multiple episodes of conversations.
Multiple episodes?
It only got six.
I know,
but I think like two,
maybe three,
at least flashbacks intertwined.
Yeah.
How long do we think these episodes are going to be?
45.
I think gotta give us an hour and five.
Each one?
I don't know.
No,
I hope at least.
Marvel skews on the longer side.
Disney goes short.
They short us.
But they had longer,
but there's more episodes.
Like how many episodes was Boba?
Eight.
Eight.
And Boba,
Boba had a few
towards the end that were long.
Yeah.
I think with six episodes,
I think we get between 45 to 52.
And you gotta remember that when the little Disney thing comes on 52 minutes,
that's still like three minutes of credits.
Yeah,
there's credits plus the end.
So,
but I would say,
I would say between 45 and 52 each one.
Mm-hmm.
And I would be.
I'll say 55 of story.
I hope you're right.
I hope you're right.
I hope you're right.
With Obi-1,
you put 30-minute episodes out of just six episodes.
You're going to,
people are going to be.
There's got to be a giant reveal of them.
Because he, okay, and we have to know the history of Vader.
He's the hunting the Jedi now and this and that.
So like, who's this guy?
And his relationship with the Inquisitors.
Yeah, how is it established?
Yes.
The other thing that they have to do.
Oh, boy.
That as E.M.
McGregor was talking about with combining everything,
not only that they combine the prequels with original trilogy,
they also have to, you're a Star Wars fan and you haven't watched rebels.
Right.
There are people that are, and I remember Star Wars fans.
like a Star Wars hardcore fan who does a show every week.
There are people who are just going to tune in for Obi-Wan
who have no idea who the Inquisitor are.
And it's got to be palpitable to them.
You've got to explain, like, who are they?
Because, like, we know who the Grand Inquisitor is,
but, like, John Pinto doesn't know.
I'll say this.
And as much flak as I am giving Moon Knight,
because I'm a die-hard moon-night fan.
Yeah.
They are making it very palpitable.
40 years of character, there's never been a definitive arc on this guy,
but they're making it so casual fans can watch us and love the hell out of us.
Wait until you see this episode.
So they are doing such a good job with that.
And I think giving the talent involved, they will reward the fans,
the hardcore fans, but also make it for people to have no idea who this Inquisitor is,
make it like not like, what is going on here?
Right.
And you introduce like this new character to them.
Yes.
But I want to feel about a Star Wars episode of television the way that I felt about Moon Night.
Now I've got to watch this episode.
Because I will tell you, like Moon Night to me was only something that I had heard about
through John Snap back in the night.
Tell me about it.
And Robert Myr-Bernet.
They would talk about it.
they would talk about it all the time
and it needs to be something
before streaming so they wanted a movie obviously
and then once the trailer came out
I was on board and then I've been
I've been locked into this character
and the emotions that this episode took me through
while watching it I was like oh man that's like
that's just not that's just great television
and like Star Wars has had
and Man Laurens had some great episodes but I want
a show and Obi-Wan could do that to knock me off my ass
You want the emotionality in it? Yeah
and I think it's about close to
about 50 minutes, yeah.
It was, to me, it was the best show,
episode of Marvel has ever done.
See, for me, that's why I'm to this day still feeling
out of all the great streaming stuff
we've got of everything, Daredevil,
so many episodes where he's not even in the suit.
And it's just him with, like, Claire, having a conversation.
Just you feel the actor's emotionality of it.
You tear up when...
Oh, come on, no.
I tear up at everything.
You're going to cry like 12 times during this episode.
We'll see, because I've not been a fan of the show so far.
It'll get shown me.
And I will eat my words and put my foot in my mouth.
What I will say,
What I will say about you is that you are not one of those people that stick by your guns and go,
oh, if I hate it, I hate it.
Thank you.
No, you really aren't.
And if I feel, because I know you well enough, I feel that this episode is going to kick your ass.
Oh, I hope.
And I've said very much everyone is like, I didn't like this, but I can see why people do.
Or I do like what they're doing with this.
Because again, this is something that's a character I'm invested in.
Right.
That I've loved for so long.
But I know 90% of people don't know who this guy is.
Well, but that's why I'm curious if they're able to do that.
But let's do one.
Yeah, let's do one last one here, and then we'll call it a day.
This is again from Twitter.
And let's see, this is from Ryan at Ryan Skywalker.
What do you want from Hayden Christensen inclusion in Asoka?
Several episodes of full conversation, something more minimal.
I think I leaned somewhere in the middle.
A few good conversations and closure moments with the two of them, but not overbearing.
Well, this is why I think that it's going to be so important for the celebration side of it,
to where I think we'll learn a little bit more about what his role is.
Yeah.
Especially, and I think that's another reason why to realize that by episode two of Obi-Wan, when it airs on that Friday of celebration, you would assume you're going to get some version of Vader in the first two episodes.
You would assume.
Yeah.
Maybe.
You're assuming.
Assuming.
But with the inclusion of him in the episode, and then to say everyone's going to be talking about it, and then if they then bring up the Asoka panel and then they talk about what his role is going to be now in Asoka, I would like to see, I think Force Ghosts, because you hear.
hear him in, in, uh, Rise of Skywalker.
Yeah.
You hear him briefly and he's, and he seems, and when you listen to his lines,
when he's talking to Ray, he's very calm and he's very chill.
And he's talking about, you know, more so about, um, do what he, you know,
the stuff that he had to go through and the lines that he did to her and,
and to get there and where he is after the balance, I guess, that Luke brought to him.
I would like to see, I would like to see those types of conversations and a flashback of them
in the Clone Wars area.
Steph, what do you think?
Yeah, this is also another one of my favorite relationships,
and it was really heartbreaking.
I definitely think we're going to get multiple conversations
because it builds out Asoka's character,
and it connects her to the greater universe
in a way that if you didn't watch the animated shows,
you would be like, oh, she's really important.
I need to know why she's connected to Anakin in this way.
I'm confused.
Do we know the timeline of Asoka this series?
Yeah.
So it takes place for what?
Faloni rumored is at the very end of Rebels.
They start to go off in this path of where Sabine and Asoka are off looking for Ezra and Thrawn,
who are out in the Outer Regents, who got kind of sucked into this warp.
So they got to go find them.
So the scene in Mandalorian, where she's looking for Thrawn, apparently is right before that in Rebels.
And then that leads into that scene that we see in Rebels.
So it's kind of a connection of Rebels.
It's the next Rebels.
It's all for you hope.
Oh, it's after Jedi.
Yeah, it's after the events, after the event, that's Samurai episode in Mandalorian, it's after those events.
Okay.
So, Hayden's dead.
He's a force ghost.
Mm-hmm.
That's what I mean.
He's forced.
So that's, you think we're getting force ghost stuff with her.
Not we're going to see, like we see, hope to see, no one prequel, pre-new hope.
I think that you could get both or you could get either.
Okay.
You could get both or either.
I was completely taken off by the forest ghost stuff.
So you think the two of them, because I want to see,
because that weight had so much weight to me.
He's like, oh, you're so much like your father to Luke.
That moment, like, that's awesome.
Yeah, so.
Yeah, I think they'll have her in an episode of Obi-1,
and hopefully she might be in a clone.
You think of a clone war type of war scene flashback?
Just so you establish their connection.
You have to make her self.
Definitely younger, though.
Yeah, yeah.
And then when she comes back for her series,
and then you see Anakin Force Ghosting,
it will make it a lot more.
powerful.
How crazy would that be to make like a 20 year old like Rosario Doss?
But what if they just get a different actress?
They don't need to because of all the, I don't care.
You don't need to anymore.
But isn't she's a lot shorter too.
She's like,
I don't think you can film that way.
In the Cold War's movie, how much shorter are you?
How much shorter are you 10 years ago?
She's, she's tiny in that movie.
She's small.
But that's going back to the Inquisitor conversation.
And you change, you can change things up a little bit with, with height and things.
You got to, but that was.
And love or hate the Clone Wars movie
because that's what I do know of the Clone Wars up at that point.
She was a kid.
Yeah.
To him.
Yeah.
And he's a kid.
So it's younger.
Like,
if you're going that time,
you,
well,
he ain't pulling a little bit of time.
This is why I love the questions that come out.
I'm totally okay with a young actress.
We have so much coming out, guys.
So,
uh,
anyway,
this was the show.
It was me.
It was step.
It was Mike.
Got a lot to,
uh,
to talk about upcoming.
Um,
a show's more news about celebration.
There's going to be more celebration and stuff as we get
into May. This is the last episode in April. May is going to be very, very strong. I think is
May 4th? Our next episode is that Wednesday, May 4th, which would be amazing? Yeah. Is it actually?
Hey. Hey. So actually, you know what's going to, you know what's going to be stupid stuff? We're going to
wind up doing the same thing. We're going to wind up recording our episode next week. Yeah.
And then all this news is going to break during the show or right afterwards. That'll be fun, though.
Yeah, as long as it happens during the show. Yeah. Should we push an hour maybe? Maybe. Maybe.
Anyway, okay, look, thank you guys for joining us.
We appreciate you, and we'll see you on the next run.
It's Sith Council.
