The Kristian Harloff Show - SHOULD STAR WARS USE TIME TRAVEL IN AHSOKA SERIES? | Sith | Disney | Big Thing

Episode Date: December 28, 2022

Ahsoka Tano has time travelled in Star Wars Rebels. Will it happen in the new Star Wars series in 2023? Should it or should Star Wars stay away from time travel? Would you retcon the new trilogy if you were able to? Where will the new Star Wars movies take place? All of this and more with today's special guest Mark Reilly! We discuss this with all of your amazing questions. Drop a comment and enjoy! #StarWars #Lucasfilm #Disney #Ahsoka OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg PATREON: http://www.patreon.com/thebigthingshow SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hello, everybody. I hope you had a wonderful, wonderful Christmas. We're getting close, man, we're getting close to 2023. So what a better way to end the big thing, Sith Council year, then by doing a nice Q&A and you guys sent in a bunch of questions through the YouTube community chat and the Facebook, my Facebook page. And we're going to be answering all those questions. There's tons of them. I saw a bunch of stuff about Asoka,

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So let's get into it. It's me. It's Mark Ryder. It's Sith Council. Sith Council, everybody. It's Sith Council. And it's me. And this guy, Mark Riley's back in town. Hey. How you doing? I'm glad that we're finally, isn't that funny how you always do that on podcast? It's like, we've been talking to each other for the last, like, half an hour. And you turn the up mic's on. How you doing? Hey, I know. So good to see you. I haven't seen you forever. Yeah, we just talked about this. Well, Riley and I had breakfast the other day.

That was good. I don't want to bring up the restaurant, but, you know, but it's good. Good. Really good stuff. Good breakfast burrito. Really good. Anyway, we sat and we were talking and we'll get into it. Somebody asked, actually asked a question that I think you'll probably answer why you haven't been on more.

We'll get into that in just a little bit. It's because he's a jerk. I am a jerk. Real jerk. I don't. I don't. you much. No, I know. I don't like you either. I don't like you either. So again, like I said, I don't know. There's some stuff that we can talk about up top, but I don't know. I mean,

they ask so many great questions. I'm sure we'll get into it. Sure. Just, shameless pug, did you get a chance to see the Diego Luna interview? I watched like a little bit of it. I need to finish it. That's part of my new thing. It was awesome. I know. I know. I was lucky enough to get the text with the with the with the first you got it first i posted it yeah before i was like i was like oh christian send me a text not a fart this time it's a text and uh in a in a video look at this and then it switched over to dey galoon i went son of a bitch yeah that's awesome that's a good that is awesome it's good so it was a really good interview it was a lot of fun people were very supportive of the audience of watching and leaving some great comments that's great i'm telling you's

98% positive couple turds. The one thing that people said that I had no issue with, which I agreed with, is that he, unfortunately, because it's a good thing, he was really comfortable. Yeah. But he was going like this at one point. And you couldn't

even hear him on the mic, and he's like all the way over here. And what are we say, hey, and or turn around. You know? And he's, and at one point, because Perry shot her interview too, at one point he's like, does this. Did he really? He's like, looking at the, like, I I was humbled because I'm like, he's looking at the shelf and he's looking and he was really, he said afterwards, he felt very comfortable in the studio and everything too.

And I wasn't about to, like, coy, on yesterday's show, it was like talking like this. And so Winston was talking and I said to Quo, I said, I'm not going to say that to Deagaluna. I'm not going to get closer to the mic guy. You know, it's like, can you. Yeah, so I just dealt with it. You, you know, professional actor here, can you please act a little closer to the microphone? And I was like, you know, I thought I was going to do, which I didn't. This is me lying to myself.

I said, you know what I'll do? I'll just, I'll adjust the sound in the edit. Yeah. Couldn't do it. What am I, that? He knows I'd do a lot of stuff. I'm like, I'm looking at it going. Lays a level.

I'm going, I'm looking in the editing. I'm like, yeah, forget it. No. I just, in my entire career on this thing, whatever this all is, Hollywood, everything. The technical stuff always gets me. I can't do it. I've been happy with the fact that I've I've taught myself a lot I don't I'm impressed I'm watching you do your thing and I'm like man that's five of times this is why I gave up I figured out I figured out I figured out a lot of how to do I'm still learning a lot for sure but anyway let's get into some of these questions man there's some good ones Star Wars right yeah we're talking Star Wars today no DC for today no D. All right so this is the first one if Linda law this is from Callum 1327 and again

These came from Facebook. My Facebook personal, the page I have over there, and then the YouTube community. So when we do these in general, always be able to look out for those. Okay. That's your questions in. Callum 1327,

if Lindelof does this Star Wars movie, how many of the sequel cast do you think being in it or will none of them be in it? It's a good question. It's a great question. You know, Daisy really went up for a meeting. I saw that. But the rumor that I heard,

I mean, I think Snyder even reported on this, so I don't think I'm speaking at a turn here. But Snyder, why didn't I call Snyder the spider? Jeff's the spider-snider. Probably too cheesy. Is that just coming to you now? Yeah. Because I goofed and said spider.

I guess the spider, whatever. He's a, yeah. But he can't, he's, he can get those scoops. But he's been, he's been crushing it. Yeah. Because he's got, he's got the whole, like, I'm just. He's always had the connections. Yeah, always, always always.

But now, now the gloves are off for him. So anyway. He had said something along the lines that he thought that, I guess, Daisy Ridley was going in for the meeting, potentially for the Lindelof movie, which I thought made sense because from the rumors, was that that portion of, that stories and a lot of these stories that they're going to do for films that take place after the sequel trilogy. Okay. So I said, okay, that makes sense that, you know, maybe I thought before I even saw him, like, well, she's probably in there for that movie. And then I spoke to him, and again, I hope I'm not speaking to her. And he said, I don't, he's like, I actually think I was wrong. He's like, I don't, that's not the movie that she's apparently on or going to,

or going to do, or the project she's going to do rather. Okay. I still think he's going to, she might show up in there. I think that, I think it helps. I think it helps in that time period. I don't think she needs to be, I think almost what they do with, you know, Luke and Leanne Hahn. That's what they should do with her.

Yeah. I, I have no idea. Where, what, we know, know it's going to be set after the sequel to, or is that just the rumor? That's the very. It's like, you know, not just one particular website rumor. It's like many and I think reputable website rumors. Well, yeah, it makes sense.

It does make sense to pick up after and see where the galaxy is. It gives you less of a, it gives you less of less expectations because you're, you're essentially working on a clean easel, you know? Yeah, it's a clean slate, so to speak, right? It is. Because there's, you have to go, if where we are in Mandalorian, we know where the time frame is, right? because we know the secret trilogy. Where we are with Andor, we know the time frame, right?

Where we are with Acolyte, we know the time frame. Everything is in... Yeah, we know where it's going to go eventually. Eventually, we know where it's going to be... So there are parameters in that. Right. Sequel trilogy, it ended? Yeah.

What, I don't know. Could Luke, can Mark Hamill show up? Can Luke Skywalker show up as force goes? Probably maybe. He could. He could. Yoda could. It's true.

We've seen him show up. How about Obi-1? Never know. Never know. I think they're going to stay away from those characters, though. I think they should, too. Yeah, I think they're going to. But you know what they need to bring back is the old lady at the end of episode nine.

Who are you? What are you doing in the desert by yourself? There's no one around even in her house. How long did it take her to get there? Right. You know what I mean? Where is she? Why is she wandering around?

All of a sudden there. Ray, ho! This isn't the circle, okay? Ray, who? What do you need my last name for? I know. I'm the only one here. What are you, the government?

Ray who? Get lost, the old bat. Ray Palpatine. I mean, yeah, Skywalker. What do you need me for? Oh, to set you up for your last name reveal. I like a Ray movie. Would a, would a Finn come back?

A Ray movie? I don't think she's getting a real movie. If anything, she should probably pop up. You think, so if Damon Lindeloff is doing a Star Wars movie and Ray's out there and Finn's out there, We have all, everybody's out there. I think Lin-Lall stays away from it and creates some new stuff. I hope so.

That would be great. I think he is the opportunity. I love what he did with Watchman. So I love what he's doing now. He's got an opportunity to build out the pre-existing. Because it's not set to be a trilogy. It's just set to be a movie. It's set to set new things.

And I think it's a smart way to go because then what they could do is that there's a popular character inside of it. You can make spin-offs throughout it and do these things. I think that they need. to establish whatever it might be and how many years it might be right so 2019 was rise of skywalker so realistically this movie ain't coming out until 2025 at the earliest right okay so maybe 2026 maybe 27 right I say 2026 to be safe yeah so that's still that's a similar I mean Daisy Ridley will be you know I guess how old is she now 27 20 so in timeline though she's an older she's older but she's

I had always said that if she was going to come back, you have her come back when she's like in her mid-40s or 40s or something like that too, because maybe she shouldn't need to do it. And look, the other thing with her is that maybe she can just get that paycheck right now. You know, that's Star Wars,

that's Disney money. Why not? She hasn't been any big blockbusters. She's been working, but she hasn't been any blockbusters. Her name's been having us. So why not get that paycheck? You know, go back to, look at Downie.

Downie kept going back and trying to do little other projects on the side. Yeah. So, anyway, so that's, that's the questionnaire as far as how many the sequel cast I think that in the Lindelof movie

maybe Ray pops up maybe you get a couple cameos but I don't think at all they're not going to be focused Am I making up this rumor but I heard that it could that possibly it was Patty Jenkins' Rogue Squadron

that would have Poe Po Damarin? I mean that's also possible was the same thing So the way I'm thinking about it then is that it. That movie ain't happening. She said it was still in development.

She said it was in development. Well, yeah. If it's not... Right now, I mean, it's... DC is not... We don't know yet. You know, James Gunn's got it. So, but I still think there's hope that Patty Jenkins can do this movie because it's so special

to her. Yeah, but I don't think that that's the whole thing, though. I think it's similar to what the problem. I have more sympathy. I mean, sympathy with her losing both projects, but I have more sympathy with her losing the project on Lucasfilm because D.C. has a plan. Whether you like their plan or not.

James Gun and Saffrin clearly have a plan of what they're trying something. So when that Rogue Squadron movie was put together, it was Kathleen Kennedy going, oh, you're a popular director, and that sounds like a cool story. We don't have any movies. Yeah, let's do that. Wonder Woman's popular, and so are you? So you got a movie.

And people like you, so you got a movie with no plan. I think that's changing. I think that they're... At Lucasville. Yes. I think that finally, whether I'm being optimistic or not, I think that the rumors of Lindelof getting into the room with, with Faloni, and then the idea that a lot of these movies are going to take place in the time period

after the sequel trilogy, that they're sitting down and they're having an open conversation. Now, whether or not that means that this Patty Jenkins movie can find its way in, and they want to fit it into this overall story. That's kind of my point. But the problem is, we've seen that in the past, She doesn't like that. She doesn't like that.

She doesn't like being part of this whole thing. She likes to tell her stories. She likes to do what she's going to do. Right. And then screwed on. So I don't think that movie happens. I think that they have a clear cut plan in general of what they're trying to do right now. And whether or not she, I like Patty Jenkins a lot.

I'd like to see that movie sounded interesting to me. Yeah. Top Gun and Star Wars? What's so funny? People would say, isn't Top Gun Maverick essentially Star Wars? It's a Star Wars. It has a lot of Star Wars. It does. And that's what I love.

Me too. All right, here we go. There's the next. So that was the first question. All right. Here's the second question. It was a great question. Braggilicious.

So ask Riley what his favorite Star Wars character TV show is and why is it Andor? What it is? Is it Andor? It's real close. It's great. It's one of the best damn Star Wars to Star Wars. I just, I'm blown. I had to watch every episode again.

Yeah. Did you watch it twice? Oh, twice. Every time without fail, because it's so rich, it's so dense. There's so much going on. There's so much intrigue. There's so many layers. I'm like, I missed half of this in the first watch.

I got to watch it again. I want to sit down and watch the whole series again just to just take it in. It could be Andor, or, but I still go Mandalorian. Mando's still mine, but, but there's no. argument, there's no argument, I mean, at least with me anyway, that and or is the best written material since Empire. And I said that to Igoluna to open. I said to him, I said, you know, people and he goes, okay, interview's over. He goes, he goes, that's it. That's all we need to say. And it was amazing. That's the gold standard right there. It was it. That's it. That's what else do

we need to say that? Interviews are. But it is, and it's so layered and it's so detailed and listening to him talk about how detailed it is and what it is the way Tony Gilroy approaches it. even said to him. I said, look, there's no, Tony Giroi doesn't try to pretend that he loved, that he was his massive Star Wars fan. He's kind of said the opposite, right? Not that that he didn't like it, but he just wasn't a big fan, but he wanted to tell, he thought there was interesting stories to be told. Yeah. But I said what he does is very interesting. Now, when you go into Stell and Scars, Scars, Gardsard's shop, and you see all those artifacts in the back? Yeah. Tony Giroi probably doesn't know what half of those are, or 80% of them. But he found people who did. Yeah.

And that is why the show works. Yeah, grounding it in the Star Wars we know and love. Yep. Having that Easter egg for some of the fans out there that love that kind of stuff, me included. I love seeing some of the stuff in his gallery and be like, ooh, isn't that Force Unleashed? Like, wasn't there something there?

Right. So seeing all these things just kind of ground you in that world and gives you a little bit of something. But I like the idea that Tony Gilroy is a fan of just. character. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's what is so special.

Character. That's what so, it's just so detailed and so layered and I was so invested in it with the build from start and those little, you know, as I've been using the analogy, the entire season was that the first step, like they did these, he would do these three episode arcs for each one, right? And he would do a, the first part of that arc was a jab. The second one was a hook. And then he finished you off with the uppercut.

And it's a great way to put it. Yeah. A few different times, right? And like there were a couple ones that were just, there was like one standalone episode that just like a haymaker and then there was the arcs again but it was it was it was just really really good um i would still put mandolarian though the reason why is that what i love about andor is that it really dives deep into a pocket of star wars that i like right the politics and all that too yeah that's what i love mon mottma is straight but mandolarian covers all of it yeah that's that's

why i still think for me and it's got that space opera the fantasy yeah it's got that thing that i really and it feels the most like the the original trilogy than anything else. I agree. Yeah. Mixed with Clone Wars, mixed with rebels, mixed with all this stuff,

this little special magic. So, like, Mandalorian's still, to me, the gold standard, but Andor is the gold standard in writing. Yeah. And I think you can get there

with Mandalorian, and no matter what you do, there's episodes, whether it's Price Dallas Howard doing it or Rick Famil who's doing it, that they delve deep into character in your, like, oh, yeah.

Layered as much as Andor, maybe, maybe not, of you take it, but the Mandalorian, the one thing I'll say about why I will probably choose Mandalorian for a long time unless there's a show that comes out that

knocks it out of that, for me at least. That reveal of Luke Skywalker at the end of season two was one of my favorite Star Wars moments in all of, and I was sitting at home. I wasn't in a theater where I like to be with my Star Wars. Yeah. Okay? But I'm at home with my fiancé

and he shows up and I am a kid again. I literally were screaming, running around the house. Yeah, see, I was in my kitchen. I said, they did it. This crazy sons of bitches did it. And I was, and it was, what was funny about that is still, I mean, for what it was, and I just, the only hindsight, you know, but I just wish that they would have gotten the

same guy that they had for the Boba Fet, Luke. Yeah. Like, they would have gotten him to do because it's just, even when you watch it now, it's still a little off. Yeah. The, the deep. It's de-aging as opposed to deep fake. And, like, they deep faked him in BobaFa.

Like, that's one of my favorite episodes of Star Wars ever. It's one of my, it's my least favorite live action show. Same. Same. But it's my, one of my favorite episodes of Star Wars television is that episode. Yeah. When you get to Mandalorian and then you get back to Grogu and then you see Luke and the choice. It's so good.

And I'm standing there with, um, Asoka. Oh, yeah. And just, like, I, like, full chills. Well, I think, I think that that scene at the end of BobaFat or Mandalorian 2.5. whatever. I think that that scene when he says, am I going to see you again? I think that that plays into this whole big,

kind of big mega event that they're setting up with Thrawn and everything. Yeah, oh, I totally agree. I've been saying from the minute I heard Thrawn, from her lips, I was like, that's the Thanos. That's the Star Wars of Thanos. I really hope they go that route.

I hope so, too. It feels like they are. It feels like they are. I've been hoping, but like, I've always kind of had doubt because I didn't want to get myself, too excited about it because that's not what Kathleen Kennedy does.

But Flonnie Favro seemed to be going down that route and teasing things. So I don't know. I don't know. All right, let's see. Let's go to the next. You guys ask some really great questions thus far. Nohatch 33. When the heck are we getting the movie theater Star Wars?

The time leading up to the first trailer of the new trilogy, I yearn for this. Okay. So I think that that's a, it goes back to what we were just talking about, right? Now, what we didn't mention before when we were talking about the movies that were rumored. You had the Patty Jenkins movie that was rumored. That doesn't seem to be happy anytime soon anyway. Any time soon, right. The Tycho Atiti movie, which they said at one point was coming out the end of next year.

That I'm wondering if it's happening anymore. Get rid of that. After Love and Thunder? It's not just that. I love Tycho Atiti. And I always preface this when I get into my Tycho Reti rants about Star Wars. His stuff about Mandalorian, his directing that he's on with Mandalorian. phenomenal.

What Tycho, there's two things with Taika Watiti. When Taika Watiti is directing other people's scripts inside of this world, that's where he shines. Now he has his own material that he writes and directs that he's fantastic and right.

But when he's writing his own stuff, he's a very funny guy, and he gets overly jokey, hence Thor, Love, and Thunder. Now, the other thing, he is stretched too thin. Yeah. He's working on so many different things right now.

you do not pop out of the gate with a Tycho, a Tidi movie coming off of a movie that not everybody loves, and the guy's overly busy. Yeah. You lead with that Lindelof movie. That's my opinion. No, I agree with that. I think after, it's so weird, and I'm,

Ragnarok is probably one of my favorite MCU movies. He didn't write that, though. He didn't write that, no. Did he? No. He didn't write the script. He collaborated clearly with jokes and stuff. Yeah, but Love and Thunder went,

the other way, for me, at least. It just, I thought it was, it's not my favorite. No, it's Saturday Night Sketch. Yeah. The whole movie's a Saturday Night Sketch. Yeah, and I haven't liked the direction they've been going with, what do you call the effects that they're, the volume? The volume.

Haven't really enjoyed it that much. Well, you look at the Mandalorian. Oh, with the MCU. With the MCU. Mandalorian, the way they use it. Right, but they didn't use it. They're using it sometimes. They've used it a little bit in Obi-1, too.

Yeah, I can sense that, and I can see that. But it's like love and thunder really was different for me with the effects and the volume. I was like, okay. And I see it with quantum man with the Ant Man. I can kind of see it where I'm like, there's a little bit different. So I want them to pull back a bit. Less is more for me. But I don't know.

To go out of the gate with a Taika Watiti Star Wars movie, if he's doing love and thunder, that I think would be bad for Star Wars. I think it would just wouldn't land as well. I would love to see, and this is where I agree with you. Damon Lindelof movie maybe. Let's say Patty Jenkins after that. Ray is in Damon Lindelof. Po is in Patty Jenkins. This is just a what if.

And then Tyka was what Tidi comes out with like a quirky, weird, whatever. And it centers on Grogu. I don't know. I just, that could maybe work. I think they need, I think they need to do, like we were just talking about with this Thrawn potential mega event.

This is what they need to do with movies. They need to put together. They haven't connected enough universe. where you don't have to make it like trilogies. You don't have to do this whole thing. But have like things kind of be connected. You can connect certain things because people want a bit of a plan. Because the problem is what they've done terribly over the last 10 years is they, like we mentioned before.

Oh, who's really popular right now? That person, great. They're going to get a movie. Let's bring them in for a movie. What do you want to do a what period? Oh, that sounds interesting. Okay, then put that in development. We'll do it.

Oh, it's not working out because we can't, we have no plan of what we're doing. That's the movie's canceled. as opposed to, all right, here are all the list of directors we want to go to Dave, Damon, Deborah, Bryce, let's get in a room. Let's get all these, Rick, let's get into a power room, and let's start thinking about what movies, what stories do we want to tell? Well, we were thinking a great time period would be this, and we're going to go that way, we're going to go that way, and we want to eventually get there and go there that way this way.

Great, we have our plan, we have our treatment, we have all this. All right, we'll get that list of directors, bring them in here, let's talk to them, let's see if they like what we're working with, if they have ideas that they can contribute, very similar to what the MCU did right inside their thing. And I really hope that that's what they're going to do because their plan for film over the last 10 years, not TV,

film has been abysmal, abysmal. Yeah, they really have dropped the ball. Yeah, and you would think after Rogue One, we were on to something, for me, at least, with the movies, because we had the sequels and then Rogue one. It's all Gilroy, man. I know.

Gilroy, they should be paying Gilroy and his kids and everybody else to the date that, until the world blows up. Which, where's Twitter? Yeah, so having a kind of writer's room that you're kind of describing there for Lucasfilm and Star Wars would be amazing to see. Getting back to the whole, get back to the question, the thing I want more than anything is a Star Wars movie in the theater. So hopefully they're on the right track now and they're getting something going.

I just don't know when that's going to be. Right. That's the problem. say if I'm a betting man and I am, I would say you should make a bet for 2025, but if you put your money on 2026, you have a better shot of landing. Yeah. Because 2025, Iger's probably going to go, let's go, let's move, let's go, because you're in 20, once you because you can push and you've, you can push a movie into production, right?

We had this whole big conversation on capes and cows about his win. Winston thought that we might see the Superman movie in summer of 2024. I said, dude, you'd have to have that script done and all that stuff too. And then, you know, the- And they're prepping to film, 2023. Preping to film, just, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the CGI, like, everything you'd have to do. Now, I think for that movie, a stretch is December, 2024, possible if they want to

to get it out before, you know, gun and saffron, because they want to put, they only have couple deals. Now, the same goes for Star Wars. It's like he comes in, JJ had to do it in two years or two or three, whatever. And they put a couple movies to play in two years, and you got to make sure that it's not rushed. Yeah, not with what we're doing. And what would I want. And I would love to see, and I'm asking you this and everybody out there. We get Mando season three in February, right? 2023. Then we have Asoka coming later that year.

So that's the same time frame. Thron, possibly, showing up in Osama. Right? Skeleton crew? The same time period. Same time period. Okay. Could we see this Thanos-style-like thing with Thrawn in it end up in a movie?

That we get all these series running together. They show up together. Asoka shows up and Book of Boba-Fet Luke Skywalker's in there. Then Mando shows up and then we get more Mando stuff happening. Could we see that? Could we or should we? Should we? Should we?

Yes. Could we know? Yeah. You don't think they're going there. No. So that's what I think. I think they're leaving money on the table. I think they're leaving so much money on the table because I think that in there, in the room,

they're probably like, well, then we're relying on people to have watched the TV show in order to understand the movie. Well, yeah. But it's like, that's kind of the point, right? That's kind of the point. The point is we have all these things. We have this series and we want to make sure. that people will go back watch and say, look, and I've been saying this for years,

that the way that I think that they should end their show is that they're as popular, like it's harder to do something for a lot of different reasons, like Andor, right? Andor, we already have the season finale shot into a movie, and it's called Rogue One. Yeah, right. So the series finale, rather.

So that kind of plays, and it also kind of plays into my argumental, they did it backwards, but if you did this, and I still think this could be something that they should try, but Mandalorian is one of the, the most popular shows in general. I mean, it's in, I just saw an interview with, like,

Jonah Hill and he was talking about, like, Leonardo Caprio made him watch it. And he had this whole thing. And, like, it's a massive show. Yeah. And if the last season, if they announced that the series finale was going to be, and I know I've said this guy's a million times over,

but just to reiterate it, like, the last series is 2025. That's the last episode. And it's going to air in December, December 6th, the last episode. However, the series finale will come out in theaters on December 13th.

And in order to see the series finale, you have to go to the theater. And if you don't, then it'll be on Disney Plus in February, March of 2026. Yeah. Love that. And it's like, you know you're filming in it. So you basically, you're structuring out the whole entire series, except this year's budget's going to be significantly bigger because this series finale is going to be a, you know, a $150 million movie.

Yeah. So it's like that's what, or 200 million, whatever, however they would do it now. But it's like that's what you're saying, if you can build that up to where you get thrown and you do this big, huge thing in the theater, it's an event. But yeah, a lot to talk about. All right, next one. Great questions here, guys. So this is from Zach Bierman.

If you could change one thing about the upcoming or past Star Wars TV shows, what would it be? We'd love to hear what two Star Wars gurus think. Love the show. This is easy for me. And it goes back to what Riley was just talking about. I would absolutely. And I know it's tougher because of what was going on with the pandemic and COVID and all that stuff too. I would have done a lot less shooting in the volume for Obi-Wan.

I would have changed that tone of that show significantly with Obi-1. I would have been put that now, and I've been very clear in this. I don't think every show should be like Andor, but that show should have been. I think Riva and the Inquisitors should have been in a different show. I think that Riva in general, it has nothing to do with Moses, Ingram, this has nothing to do with any actor that's put in that role. The problem is the story was built to be Obi-Wan in discovering his friend and this pain, and they put this poor actress in here to say like, oh, now you're going to carry it.

And it was like, well, it doesn't matter who it was. They were going to go, now, no. It's like, you're in this big fight with Vader and Obi-Wan. And then they cut to her chasing Baru and Owen You're like wrap it up It's like get back to the fight And that's not fair to her Yeah

And I think that it was it was a bad move And some of it looked very cartoony And very animated I'm a degree man Yeah there's some cool moments But even and I hate And like Obi-1 comes off looking like a dummy In the end of that series

Really? You think so? I'm gonna I'll put it into your head right now And I know you well enough Okay So here he is fighting First of all he's picking up rocks And throwing him at Vader

Where was that? Where was that four, three years, or three, four years from now? You know, whatever it was when he's, or wherever, when he's, oh, that's, okay. But I'll give it a pass. Sure. So he's throwing rocks, okay. So then he's got Vader, dead to rights. Leaves him?

Dead to rights. Instead of a tie fighter, this is an easy fix. He's about to strike him down finally and take it out and save millions and billions and lives. A tie fighter comes in, bam, mom, mom, mom, bum, bum. Bushes him across, can't get to him. Vader survives again. Then you're going, oh, he just almost has.

him as opposed to, nah, I'm going to let you live again. You just let billions of people die again. That's the second time you've done that. The first time I'll give it you, you thought you burned him to a crisp and you walked away. Okay, and then you lied to him, lied to his son and said, hey, you know, that's a, your father wanted me to have this when he's burning and screaming his face off. But then just to leave him there, standing there like, nah, I'm not going to kill you.

Because Obi-Wan didn't do what he was supposed to. Twice, but just I'm saying, he's a dope. He's a dope. That's, again, I see, I see it's so different. friend. Really? On the other side, he looks at his friend. He sees his friend.

He knows he's gone. He knows he's just dark. So kill his ass. Yeah, I couldn't do it. I know, but that's the thing. But then he's a hypocrite when he tells, I can't kill my father. Well, and then the emperor has certainly one. It's like you're in the scene, you're hypocrite?

Yeah, no, no, no. He's doing the same thing. He's got, he's telling Lou, yeah, you got to go kill your father. Knowing full well, he's not going to kill his father. Knowing full well that that that might bring him. If he's in that moment and he has him dead to rights and a bunch of ships come in and save Vader when he just had him. That, see, it was more powerful for me for Obi-Wan walking away because I saw, I, and Hayden Christensen. He was great.

He was, they were both great. It wasn't, the performances were fine. I, some of the choices. I mean, everything for me, I had some problems with the Inquisitor storyline. Music. The music, yeah, I really had a problem with the music. The music, I felt really. missed the mark and that's

I'm the music guy. Yeah, and the lame excuses. The lame excuses. I don't know why we couldn't have some of the, the absolutely necessary force theme in some of the things that he did, but.

Yeah, Kevin, Kevin, kinder did it brilliantly. I don't know why they, they didn't, some of the interviews, like, clearly you don't watch your other shows when you're saying, well, it wouldn't happen at this point yet. It's like, what?

What are you talking about? It's like, he doesn't, he doesn't get that Vader theme until later when he's really angry. It's like, what? I'm talking about. It's fine. You know, it's like everybody's going to have a creative choice.

There's a lot of cooks in the kitchens, especially with this. Flip it for real. This. Even with this, you know, with this ending in the show, but just to get back to it, I just adored the moment of him looking into Vader's eyes and being like, oh, my friend is truly gone. And that did something to him. That made him walk away.

And I think that he also. had a plan. I don't think he knew it at the time. He's walking away because he knows Luke's out there. He knows Leia's out there. This is their father. I think he feels in the force that there is a bigger picture and that he has to walk away. Sure.

I guess I'm missing. Because if he doesn't walk away, if he kills Vader, what's Luke going to do? Like what's Luke's purpose? Luke then becomes... He can live normally. Yeah, he probably has a better life. That's for sure. Yeah.

I get it. So again, there's a lot of different things he could have done to make everybody's lives a lot easier. And I guess, you know, you know, who doesn't agree with you? Alderon. They don't agree with you. Well, that Alderon was going to happen. Not necessarily. Not necessarily because, look, butterfly effect, where, wait, he, oh, Obi-Wan killed him.

All right, put the dead star in hold for a little, but I need to find a new apprentice. I need to find a new apprentice. He'll get a new apprentice and still be blown up planets. But, I mean, look, I mean, yeah, but still, all the raw, it's, there's, there's, there's, there's, there's, a lot of what if. I mean, you can do what ifs. A lot of what ifs. I mean, I always say, go to that what if comic where Luke Skywalker dies instead of empire. Actually, actually don't bring it up. Someone actually asked about what if. And I put, I chose it specifically for you because I remember you telling me about it. This is no concept. It says, since the world between worlds was

introduced in rebels, do you think Star Wars will ever dive deeper into time travel multiverse stories? But so my answer to this question about two weeks ago would have been no. I've changed my tune because of some rumors. I think it was making Star Wars that had reported it. There's some, you know, rumors and stuff that basically going into what we just talked about with this big cross event, right? But one of those things is in Asoka is that apparently, you know, the rumors are that, and again, you know, I'm giving people a chance here. It's not like a major spoiler. It's just a little kind of a rumor.

So if you don't want to hear it, I have time codes. You can skip across. Good. You know, the rumor is that she is, you know, contemplating and flashing back into that time period where she went into World Between Worlds and it's been kind of messing with her. So they play with that. Now, I don't know how true that is or not, but I think that it could be interesting and it ties into Faloni essentially continuing his rebel storyline, which he wants to do. And if it wasn't Filoni show running and directing, I'd say no chance. Right.

But it's so funny because like when you say it's just so weird, and myself included, it's so weird how this works with Star Wars. When you start saying time travel for Star Wars, like, come on, they'll just start, right, but it's the only IP that makes sense to time travel because of the space and time and the way space and time works out there. It's like because of light speed and because of these things and the way that they can do and the way that time works differently on different planets and like the science of it makes more sense there.

But for some reason, right away you go, I don't need time travel there. but we're okay when the Avengers do it, and we're okay to something, even though it's going to take thousands upon thousands upon millions upon, never of years to eventually get a black hole to travel in time and earth. But in Star Wars, you know, somewhere on some planet with the way that time works, like Interstellar,

remember when interstellar when he goes and how time works so differently on those planets? They never explore that type of stuff, but they could if they want to and it would make sense. But I do think they'll go this route, And I do think it's an interesting way that if they did it right, that they could play in a different timeline and eventually go somewhere where Luke, you know, is a different Luke.

They could do it. They won't, but they could. Yeah, they could. Yeah, just looking at it on paper, time travel, it's like, no, I don't want time travel with my space wizards. Right. You know, it's like, what's, it's, it's, and if Filoni has a plan and the world between worlds and that's going to happen, great. I'll, I'll trust.

Rebels. Did you not like it? I don't like it. Oh, okay. I've never liked it. Okay. It just is something that never worked for me because I don't, with that, there is a chance for rewriting things that we already know and there's do-overs and I don't like it.

I just, I just want to stay away from time travel in general. And it's not time travel like, Marty, you got to come back with me. It's the world between worlds and I get it. I just, I don't like it. I don't want to see it happen. But again, on paper, that's on paper for me. It's execution. It's execution. It always is with execution.

100%. Yeah, it's just, but at first, at first hearing it, it's not something you would, it wouldn't be your first choice. It wouldn't be my first choice. But you could come back to it and go, hey, look, it worked. Yeah. Yeah. I'm on the other side of it.

I think that I'd like to see that happen. I mean, in my, and this isn't, this isn't a debate about the new movies or anything too. I just, if it would be amazing if they went into a different route where they're like, okay, well, look, we, you guys think you know what happens in the future here, but it doesn't. And in this, what we're building in our TVverse, it's a different timeline. And it's almost like the, what's, what's it called in, in D.C. We talked about it at a great length.

Not other worlds. Yeah, multi, yeah. You know what I'm talking about it. So either way, it talked about it a million times over with coin and Winston yesterday. But doing something like that, and then maybe Ray comes in and when Ray has a different purpose, well, Ray wouldn't maybe even be in the damn things? I don't know. But either way, setting it up in a way where you're like, okay, this is the stories that we wanted to tell on our timeline,

it'll never happen because people like JJ and Ryan Johnson would be offended and these things and they wouldn't want to do it. But like I would prefer that. I think that they, and I don't blame Ryan Johnson. I don't blame JJ for the movies. said the new trilogy, I blame Lucasfilm for the way that I was handled because we just said it was just a matter of, it was terrible planning, terrible planning. Because I have talked about this on Force Awakens. Like when I watch Force Awakens now, it's like, I still really enjoy it.

But I know where it goes. And it's not that it goes into, oh, here comes the Last Jedi. Not that. It's just that, oh, this goes into a movie that they had no idea what the hell they were doing. They didn't know where they were going to go for the next one. And then the next one after that, they had no idea what the hell they were doing. Yeah, it's more cohesive for me with Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. And after Last Jedi, Rise of Skywalker, it just...

Yes, yeah, I think it all, for me, a little... Ryan Johnson. Coming back around watching these movies as many times as I have now over the years, Rise of Skywalker is... It just kind of lands. And you're like, okay. It's like a greasy cheeseburger at the airport. Yeah.

I mean, I know we're in totally different pages here, but I would... It's very, it's much easier for me to watch that movie than it is Last Jedi. Yeah, because it's... Yeah. It's a much better made film. It's a much directing-wise writing, but it's just the rise of Skywalker to me,

even though there's some really stupid stuff going on in there, it's just more enjoyable. It's more fun. It's all Star Wars. Yes. Into one. It's every Star Wars. It's over, it's like,

it's, yeah, it's super abused Star Wars. It's what it's just like, that line. I mean, the poor Dominic Monaghan, you know, like, what is he? It's a Sith, dark magic thing. What? It's become a meme now. It's just like somehow Palpatine is the turn.

Right. And, you know. Yeah, it's bad. All right. Let's move on. So next one here. Should Asoka start where rebels left off? I think so, because the way that it looks,

it looks like, Should Assoca start where Where it starts off, sorry. Oops, why did I turn that off? I happen now, I'm sorry. So should Asoka start for rebels? I think the answer is yes Because Mandalorian takes place

Season 2 takes place from what the rumors are That scene with Asoka Where she finds out where Thrawn is Takes place right before the end of rebels. Okay. Which would make sense. Because then she finds out she asks that when she says, where's Thron?

Where's your boss? Where's Throne? So she has the information. So when she finds Sabine, she goes, I know where Throne is. He's in these unknown regions, whatever the hell he is. And then she goes and recruits Sabine. And that would make sense. Have you seen any of the footage?

No. For Asoka? No. They showed it at celebration. And it's so brief. It's so brief. And it's like, it's got Sabine looking at the. the wall with the art of all of the crew the ghost crew oh yeah yeah and then they show a couple

things and they show her from behind okay kind of walking in um so yeah it looks like there's gonna be a it's it's it's gonna be a new season of rebels and i think it takes place i think that he's got to do it in a way though that connects more so to mandolian than it does it rebels it will reward rebels fans yeah in a way that you're like oh i know what that is i know what that is i know what that is great but it can't lose you if you don't know. Like Mike, Callenhouse, he's never watched Rebels.

So you can't lose him because then you're going to lose ratings. Yeah, true. Yeah. All right, let's see. Next one here. Oh, we did that one already. Did that one already.

All right. And here we, why does it keep going backwards like that? What's what going on? I don't understand. Oh, sorry, guys. Let's go. Do you wish?

Okay. So Lord of the Bricks one. Do you, wish that the sequel trilogy is not canon, same as I do. It just ruins everything before, and now they're eliminated with what stories they can tell because of it. Well, this is definitely going to be a difference of opinion here, Riley and I, too, right?

As I just said, I think that if I had it my way and someone said, you give the keys to the castle, you can basically do what this guy's doing and have that those three movies were just kind of a standalone in a different universe, and they don't connect to everything that I knew growing up, I would do that. But I know there'd be a lot of people like yourself. he'd be like, no, don't do that.

I love that. I love the other side of it. But no, I agree with this guy. I think that they put themselves in a hole because of bad planning, bad timing, completely. I think it was handled terribly. So I think that the way they're doing television

is the way they should be doing film. And I think that if they had approached film where they've been approaching television, we would have much better films. Yeah. Yeah, I can't argue with that. I mean, it's, I love my sequel trilogy. I really do.

You know, aside from Rise of Skywalker, which I feel kind of... Indifferent. A little indifferent. Yeah, I would say I'm indifferent. There's so many parts that I love when I first saw in the theater, I was crying. Yeah. I was like, oh, it's the greatest movie ever. When it lands, when it comes and it settles, you know, you feel differently.

I wouldn't change anything, though. I can't. It's just, it's there. It's my Star Wars. Like it, love it, hate it. It's there. I cannot look at Luke and seeing that, I mean, the journey that Luke Skywalker takes for me in The Last Jedi, again, we totally disagree on this. It's poetry to me.

Yeah. A lot of people do. I adore it. For as much people that are on my camp of things that think that, you know, that, oh, he was handled terribly, which I do. But people like, oh, everyone feels that way. It's not true. Everybody doesn't feel that way. A lot of people who love, I mean, that movie has a very high rating on it.

People really like the journey. You know what's funny was when I even when I go back and think about it. I think I'm okay with him inside of that movie if he redeems himself at the end and doesn't die. I think if he disappears and says see around, and then basically they pick him up in that falcon and he's her mentor and teaches her to be the greatest Jedi and he craps out in nine. Yeah. I think that I'm accepting that way more of him going, all right, what the hell was I doing? I think a lot of people would.

And I think even I would have been, of course, down with it. More Luke Skywalker, more mentor, more parallels to Obi-Wan and Luke and parallels of even Anakin and Obi-Wan. I mean, there's so much you can look at with that. And reading that duel of the fate script that came out, I mean, that's where he went. Luke, see you around, kid. And came back as a Forks Goes, but that's what I like about Chavarro. Haunting, haunting Kylo Ren. That's what I loved about Chivarrook.

Huge. He was the only one. He was the only one out of Ryan Johnson and JJ Abrams. He was the only one that actually looked at the stuff that came before him and goes, okay, well, you guys set that up for me. I'm going to do that, and I'm going to, I'll pay, I'm going to pay homage to what you guys did. I'm going to continue your story because you set up a story as opposed to what Johnson is. Like, nah, I don't like that.

I'm going, nah, I don't like what you did. I'm going to do this. And it's like. See, I think Brian Johnson picked up where JJ left off. No chance, dude. He asked him to change stuff up on the island because he was doing. certain things that like jj had set up jay j didn't set up luke to be this weird recluse on the thing that was that was all johnson it was not and it's not johnson's fault it was again i blame luc

luke's film for this where they go this is no plan it's like where is the we have an outline and then when he goes hey i'm going to make luke this recluse well that's not what jj set up he's not doing that but they go okay go ahead make him a recluse well j j j jay though j j jay knows how he it's the mystery box that barks me yeah yeah yeah Yeah. So he goes, Luke's on an island. See you guys. Right.

You know? And he goes and he does something else. You know, and he, that's why I think Ryan Johnson went, well, why? Which led to this big thing with the last Jedi. Oh, Luke was trying to kill his uncle or his nephew. No. Like, well, he cut himself off from the force. Okay.

All these questions are that everybody's going, Luke wouldn't do that. Luke wouldn't do that. Luke wouldn't do that. Luke's, uh, Mark. Mark Hamill said that, though, too. Even Mark Hamill. Yeah. Okay.

You think Mark Hamill's wrong? No. I ask why. Yeah. I go, okay, I can't change it. I can't sit there and go, I don't like this movie. Right. Change it.

I'm going to, no, I engage with a story presented to me. You found the joy in what you were getting. I found the joy. And when I walked out of that theater. I'm an old Scrooge, what are you going to do? Yeah. Well, I walked out of that theater of The Last Jedi and I went, I am profoundly affected. And I don't know what I'm feeling right now.

Really? I went home. I couldn't sleep. I said, you know why? Because my original new Hope poster was framed in our bedroom at the time staring at me while I was laying in bed and I'm just staring at Luke

as he's holding on the lay out in the poster, swinging across the chasm. I'm like, that guy just, this is incredible. Yes, I'm so surprised. His journey. His journey is incredible. I have two framed prints now,

one from Last Jedi and one from Empire Strikes Back. And it's, the Empire Strikes Back, is Luke hanging upside, Fespin. And Last Jedi is Luke on crate, force projection, facing all of the adats. I'm like, Luke at his lowest moment, Luke at his highest moment. Yeah. It's incredible.

Hey, I appreciate you. I appreciate your, uh, I know there are people out there. I know there are people out there that agree with me. Oh, no. All right. Uh, I've been canceled on Twitter. Yes. Uh, let's go to the next one here.

Um, all right. All right. So Anakin Crespin, 857. What are you looking forward? to most about Bad Batch. Well, I'll tell you the emperor is probably the one that I'm looking forward to most in here. And this is not a slight on Bad Batch. Just not the show that I get excited about.

Yeah. Because I thought the first season was good. When they announced second season, I said, okay, I've had all 12 episodes sitting in my inbox for a week and a half. I haven't been in the cope with it yet. And I can't even imagine. I locked the doors. I said, don't bother me. me. I started watching it right away.

Like, if I got, if there was another season of Rebels, if there was another season of Tales of the Jedi, I would do that like immediately. Oh, God. Tales of the Jedi. I loved so much. Bad Batch. I'm like, I'll get to it. Yeah, I haven't even watched the first season. It's, it's fine. The problem is it's like the event. It's like the same structure every week. Yeah, I take that back. I saw probably two or three episodes of the first season of Bad Batch. It didn't get me. Yeah. Same. I don't know why. I love it. Yeah. The animation's great. The story is great. The character's great.

It's Star Wars. It just seems like the same thing. They go in, Rhea Perlman gives them a, gives them a, you know, here's your new job this week. You got to do this. You got to go rescue this person and do that.

And it's like every week, it's the same thing. Maybe the season's different. I mean, it looks like, that looks like Rex is getting a little more involved. It looks like, you know, Palpatine's getting more involved.

So if those things happen, and it's a little bit more involvement from more than just the job of the week, then it just, it just was repetitive. And I don't know. Like, a lot of people love it. People love that show.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just, yeah, I'll get to it. Yeah, we'll see. I know I will. All right, next one here. Daniel McN97. Do you think that Asoka may suffer a little bit when it comes to viewership

and interest from the casual audience, given the fact she is so closely tied to rebels? And that show didn't have a massive audience itself and was heavily geared towards kids and aired on Disney X-D, or do you think the popularity of the character from both Clone Wars and Mandalorian will be enough to, to a gamer enough interest. I think there's a lot of things inside of that

that is true and not true at the same time, right? No. It actually did have a pretty massive audience on both Disney XD and then once it transferred over to Disney Plus, it did even better, especially after Asoka showed up on Mando. So Rosario Dawson is also a pretty good name for television.

We had this whole conversation you and I have talked about this at length, where the movie star doesn't sell tickets, right? Yeah. But you know what the movie star sells? Streaming series. Harrison Ford, 1922, Stallone, Tulsa King. You know, now Rosario Dawson's not the name that those guys are yet,

but Rosario Dawson is still, oh, that's where there's a Darius. I already own it. Oh, this is interesting. And you know what else? And that's, that's all I was going to say. We haven't seen a lightsaber in a little bit, you know? So, Mandalorian, you get, you get Luke kind of showing up, but this is like the first kind of real Jedi series. We're following a Jedi now. Yeah, but

Obi-1, Obi-1, sure, but that's like, these are different kind of tales now kind of going into it with Asoka. So I think that this show is going to do very well. I think that it also does, it's a spin-off from the Mandalorian, as you mentioned. So I think this is going to have way more it's so funny when people, I see these comments, people going, well, and or bombed, no, he did not. It's, you

forget, this is not a movie. Movies, they have their opening weekend, and if they don't do good in their second weekend, have a big drop-off and they don't continue to move on, then you're in trouble. Yeah, there's a little bit more tangibility where you can look at the numbers and figure it out. And with movies, if something's,

oh, it was a really good movie, oh, I'll have to watch it when it's on TV, and they'll see you, and then they watch it. Oh, the ratings for that movie, they didn't do very good on, out in, you know, the theater, but it did great on, like, HBO Max or whatever, too. Well, what do you think these series are? They're evergreen series that sit on Disney Plus,

and with the critical acclaim that Andor has gotten, the numbers have been going up steadily. They keep going up. And people don't understand that. Oh, it didn't do very well up top. It didn't bomb. It didn't have the numbers of all we want. It didn't have the numbers.

Well, maybe it's because there wasn't a lot of discourse, I feel like, with Adenor. You know, it was a little bit different. It was just like there wasn't not a lot of ways to poke holes in this thing because it's so well done. Except it's boring. That's what people would say. It's boring. You can go outside.

I say slow. When people say it's slow, I don't. I say, I understand that. It's harder for me to get into is a little slow. That's a fair statement. This is boring. Well, then you're not, then you're watching. That's fine.

I don't know what you're watching. Yeah, it's, you know, just how you take your, your, consume your product, I suppose. Yeah, but slow and boring are two different things. It's like, how do you find, how can you find that show boring? It's like, if you, if you, it's this, it's this, to me, it's like, It's an ADD culture. Yeah, yeah. It's like this thing where it's like, if you're paying attention to that dialogue

and you really pay attention to what is happening inside of it and the overall from start to finish, you want to call an episode boring fine. You want to call the whole series boring with everything that goes on with the inner weaving. Again, slow, I'll give you slow. You want to say it's, I don't find the whole show, but I mean, I think that's more of a fair criticism.

I just, it didn't pop for me. It didn't move for me. I like my Star Wars a little faster. I like little things. I get it. Okay, fine. Then that's not your thing. But I don't understand how you call that show boring.

Oh, it's not boring. I mean, you would have missed the fact that Andy Circus was revealed to be snow. Exactly. I mean, that was really funny when he showed up and some of the hot takes. Everybody, everybody mentioned it was possible, right? Let's get to a few more here. Okay. So that was a good one.

Let's go to Phoenix, Phoenix, JG, 20. When will we see a trailer for? for the acolyte. Well, we got some photos out there. Photos, yeah, leaked. Leaked, yeah. Finally, I mean, I've had such, it's my number one most anticipated show.

Mine too. Handsdown, they're filming on location, by the way, and they're not doing the volume. Good. So that's, and that's, and that's why Andor work too a lot. Because I know there's some volume. Yeah, 100%.

But they did a lot of on location. They didn't do volume at all on that show. Is that right? Okay. That's what I thought. I didn't see it. It didn't see it at all. It didn't seem it.

So, Ackleid is easily my number one most anticipated show now. Nothing against Assoca. I want to see Soca very much. But from everything, it is apparently the whole point of how the Sith infiltrated, it is the... This has got to be Plagueis, right? Well, that's the other question that comes in. Well, it can't be, it's a hundred years before. Okay.

So the only way that it is someone's going to, someone asked this, and I don't know if we're going to get to it because we've been, you know, we got to go in a little bit. But someone asks another question is, do we think we'll see Plagis in this? series. Yeah. The only way that we do is if they don't make, if they make, if they stick with what George Lucas wanted him to be, and that's the species of mun. Yeah. Then yes.

If they make him human, which does, would not surprise me, then no, because he wouldn't be able to be old enough. Right. Right. That's true. But if he's, if he's, if he's, if he's immune. I would love. Yeah.

I hope they do that. Me too. I really do. He should be the acoly. Yeah. It turns out that he's the acoly. Yeah. At the very end of it, it's like the whoever the, I think Daphne Keene, if I was to guess,

I think Daphne Keene is going to be, it looks like she's like a Jedi apprentice or her, but she's, she is, I think, Sith. And I think she is playing the Jedi because they can't discover them because Mal says, Alas, we can reveal ourselves. And if anybody does discover them, they're dead. Yeah. So I think, they got to stick to the shadows. So I think they stick to the shadows

And by the time they get to it By the end of the series Unless they're going to go season two You put you put Plagueus as the as the acline Yeah I I I So hope they do that Me too

It'd be great That would be great yeah Well apparently Leslie Headland Who's the showrunner and director A producer and love She's like really into All the lore and canon

And all that stuff She was a prequel She loved the prequels She did, but, I mean, apparently she's all, like, read up on Revin and Bain and all that stuff. And if that's the case, I mean, this show, this show is going to, this show could be, could be just absolutely spectacular. I'm, I'm pumped for it. All right, let's, we got a couple more, both Riley and I got a split in the second here. So let's do, let's do a few more.

Let's go with, oh, but the question is far, we didn't even answer the guy's question. When do we think we'll see a trailer for the app? Yeah, I was going to say probably next year, next year. Well, they start filming. They've already started filming. Celebration is April. Celebration, I think, is a good, you know, what is that? April.

Yeah, so I think that's probably maybe when you can see it. I think it makes sense. Yeah, I think. Because you're going to get Mandalorian. Mandalorian's going to come out. Yep. In March 1st. Okay.

So you're going to get, and if we get an accolite trailer, we might not get released to the public yet. I know. Because they're going to push Asoka, which is going to be, you know, that time. So I think that you're probably. probably get an accolade trailer with, Riley's right, within the year, because it's probably going to air in early 2024.

Yeah, got it. Oh, no, isn't it coming out next year? I don't think so. I think that next year, you're going to have... We have a Soka, we have... Skeleton crew. Oh, yeah, Skeleton Crew. And Mandalorian.

I'm excited for Skeleton. I am too now considering where it all lands up. And staff, myself, and Mike, went into John Watts at our hotel. Oh, wow. After the presentation, and we talked to him about the show. Nice. And he was like, because what I said to him, I said, you know, I really liked what you said at that panel that even though there's kids in it, it doesn't, there's going to be a kind of serious tone.

He's like, yeah, he's like those, and he said, he's like those serious episodes of the Clone War series or like stranger things. He's like, that's kind of where we're going with. Yeah, that's. And I said, I said, you speak in my language. Plus, after watching the old man, did you watch the old man? What's the old man? Riley, you would love the old man on Hulu? Are you kidding?

No, no. John Watts directs the first three of them. It's Jeff Bridges. Oh, okay. Oh, oh. He got nominated for it. He, uh, okay. Yes, I have her.

He's like an old assassin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it's like, good. It's seven episodes. So it ends abruptly because during the filming, they found out that that's when Bridges got sick. So they just cut it, but, you know, thank God's gotten better since.

And they're going to do season two. But John Watts directs like the first two or three. Okay. Watch that, as great as his Spider-Man films are? Yeah. This one, huh? The first two episodes of The Old Man are maybe John wants best work. Right on. Okay. All right. So last, let's go, let's go last question. Okay. Last question here. Here we go, everybody. This is from Ace Hole. I love that. 78. Hey, Aceh. 788. Do you think Star Wars films have been getting worse because of a studio interference,

a micromanagement, or is it more of our modern society becoming, well, Flaky. I'm 32 and personally love the films, some better than others, but I've never been out there to hate them. Yeah, I think you're going off of what Riley said there too, right? It's like, you just enjoy what you enjoy, and there always be new stuff that's kind of coming out. But, no, I don't, I mean, I think micromanagement and studio in Furrets definitely can hurt. Like, here's a difference, and this is like television. Look at Willow, which studio appearance, clearly from the writers, has been very, very prominent, and then look at Andor, which there has not been a lot of studio, just, Gilroy said, get out of my way.

I'm going to do one more. This is one for you. Maurice Bruins 8593, as the Tales of the Jedi was fantastic, do you think they'll make a Tales of the Sith in the near future could tie well into the Acolyte? He answered it for me. That's tied into the Akelyte. That would be amazing.

But do you think that's my fear, though, with, like, I would love to see a Bain series, a Darlth or a Palpatine mini-series. And this is not a Lucas film, as much as like this, you know, I've been throwing shade at them on how they develop stuff sometimes. I think that's a Disney thing.

I think Disney would never want to have a lead, like breaking bad series because of it's Disney, right? It's like it's one thing to have, you know, I mean, they couldn't even keep Riva bad. They had to make her good.

Right. And it's like, and Or is the closest thing. Andor, like, Didera is awesome. She ain't turning good. She's rotten.

And her and Cyril together, even more rotten. It's just a weird, creepy relationship. Yeah, and it's like... Oh, I love it so much. Yeah, and like that type of stuff, but they're never going to... But Andrew, even though he does some shady stuff to survive, he's a good guy.

Yeah. They have never led with a bad guy series, and I don't know if they'll be able to do... I mean, maybe because it's animation, I would love it tells the Seth. I would love it. I mean, I look at that episode with Yaddle. God, that was such a great episode. Right? And I think that's pretty dark.

It is, but... But it, but it, but it wasn't, I mean, it told the line. It was right there. Right, but, but. So I think they could do. But the pallet cleanser argument would be, yeah, but then the next episode is Asoka, right afterwards, right? Yeah. I want to see, go deep the whole thing.

Like, like, again, adapt those damn Darth Bain novels. Yeah. That's what I want to see Lucasfilm do. I'm, I'm just going to say to keep pushing it out there into the world. I love those books. Yeah. But that, not just that book. They've got so many books.

Plagus, too. Yeah, they've got so good. got so many books and like I'd never understood where they have these great writers whether it's zan or claudia gray right um if all Claudia gray who you are oh yeah lost stars yeah yeah so between her and Alexander freed did battlefront they have all of these books that are inside of the canon and they could and outside of the canon and they could absolutely do what they do with harry potter and just turn them into shows turn them into movies I love that.

And it'll go, oh, it's canon, so you would know what would happen. No, because you can also add scenes and things throughout the thing. And guess what? People knew it was going to happen at the Red Wedding that read the books. It's the same thing. So, anyway, lots to talk about Riley. I'm glad you joined us here today. Thank you.

Very much for having me. You got to come back at people. There was another question of people. This is the question that people asked. How come No More Riley Cantina? And I'll let you answer that. Oh, yes. Well, so during the pandemic and all the stuff that,

that went on, you know, I pivoted in my career, everybody, and I am a producer at a company that I absolutely adore, and I'm getting more creative. I'm doing a lot more writing, and unfortunately, it just doesn't lend well for running a channel, you know? So I basically decided that for me and what I want to do with my life and my career, I'm on track now. This is what I really, and you know me as a producer and a writer have, have always been, and less of a YouTube kind of channel person. So that's why I had to make a choice. But it I'm still out there though. I Twitch. I'm on Twitch a lot and uh and my Patreon is still going where we hang out all the time and I I do like Riley's canteena with my Patreon members. So go. So go check out Riley on his patron. Yeah,

come join me there. We have a lot of fun. We hang out every week. We, uh, we, we still have game nights and trivia and all that. So yeah, it's a lot of fun. Well, it's a pleasure having you on the show. I love coming back here and I have time to do it when, you know, so I can come back any time. Yeah, you should do it again for sure. And then now that we've got the, we've got the couch now. We're going to get a better table. Once we get a better table, we'll be able to put four people on so you can join me, Steph and Mike.

I would love that, yeah. So, all right, guys, is right down the street. It's not very far. Thank you guys for joining us once again. And I hope you had a happy holiday. I hope you have a great new year. January right around the corner. And 2023, man, let's have a great one.

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