The Kristian Harloff Show - Should The Joker be in The Batman Sequel?

Episode Date: March 25, 2022

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Applesauce and hand grenades. That's what we say every morning in the household. It's not true at all. Nice to see everybody here. Nice to hear from everybody here. I haven't heard from any of you because I'm talking to a microphone all by myself with Koi and Winston here. So I'm not by myself. So I've just lied to you three times in the course of 45 seconds.

No, not Jesus. He's not here yet. But sometimes there's it to me in my dream. Also a lie. So it is time for the movie trivia showdown. That happens on Friday. Today is the big thing. And we are talking about the big thing.

and I lied again because the movie trivia Shmodown is on a little later on today. So we are going to be doing a rewatch of nothing today. It is all about talking about stories and things that we've heard. Not stories like you hear at a preschool because we're way too old for that. We outlived it. We didn't outlive it. We're still alive. I've lied again. So we are continuing to go on and on and on until we keep going on about the Batman. We're going to be hitting that.

That's a story that we're actually going to cover. Barry Keegan. That's his name, I think it is. He was in a movie and he was in another one. And he got a scene cut from that movie. He's going to be in that as well. What movie? We're not sure.

So we're going to be talking about that. We've got moon night stuff going on. We've got a lot of things going on. Juxtaposition, I just felt like saying that word. It's nice to have you all here. I said that a little while ago, but to have you back. And look, that's a show right there. There's nothing there.

And that's what's going on in my head. So make sure you subscribe. Hit that notification button. Hit the like button. Hit the bell. Ring that bell like you're up on a tower with your pants off. All right, everybody. Let's get into the big thing.

It is time for the movie trivia showdown. As I said, it's going to be today at 4 p.m. PST. Get your ass ready. All right. Let's do it. It's the show. It's the big thing. I'll find the logo soon, I promise.

How's it going? Bro, I was sure to God. You have a stroke in real time? If I didn't know because you got two kids and a wife that you aren't on drugs, I would swear to God your ass is on drugs. That was two full minutes of just deranged. Is that just shed? Is that just shed?

stress-induced? No, that was me watching Caddyshack and loving Chevy Chase and wishing that was his character in life. I feel like that's how he would be in life, just like everything. You do drugs, Danny? Yes, good. Just a two-minute stream of time. A thousand percent.

Hey, what's going on right now? It's Christian Harlov. I'm here by myself. That's a movie trivia showdown. It's not right now. That's later, but also suck my dick. I would never say that. That's awful.

But by the way, if you would like to, I'm okay with it. My wife probably isn't. I love my wife. I'll have kids. I have two kids. One's kind of old, one's kind of young. They'd be talking a lot.

I need a vacation. Damn. I ain't been to a beach and a long motherfucking time. See, doesn't it feel great? Doesn't it? Doesn't it?

Stream the conscience is power, man. It's like journaling with your mouth. That's like terrifying. Yeah. I'm going to tell you what I'm going to. Don't let yourself do it. That's what I do when I monologue on my podcast. It's not safe.

It's not healthy. It leads to bad things. It leads to bad conversations. It's also harder than you think. Well, it's just, It's opening up the floodgates of what you might accidentally say. Like the freedom of choice is a problem.

You know what I have to start doing more when I'm getting ready to write? Dan's not. It's part of that. Yes. Just let it go. And that's a good exercise. Look, we're getting people mental health.

I knew that was going to happen. I called that shit in my mind. Did I do that out loud? Yeah, might have done it. See, that's the problem. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. I usually just do it at the grocery store.

Like I'll walk up to somebody at the grocery store. Right is they're about to buy a thing of strawberry. and I just will sing a Disney song in their ear as loud as I can. Yo. But then I realize that nobody's there and I'm talking to myself. Yo, you definitely have to walk up to some old lady and just very quietly just. We don't talk about Bruce. Dude, I went to a gifting suite with the girl that sings that song.

And it was so precious that like she's so proud of it, but she kept popping up and like people would ask her to sing it. So I got like Bruno Live a bunch of times out of event. And it was the most like Disney-Fied IRL moment of my entire life. I don't know what. Breaking into Bruno. You've been going to a lot of those things. You went to Moon Night recently.

Yeah, yeah, it was Oscar season. So I've been doing like gifting sweets for the studios. I'm doing, I'm actually covering, I'm doing Morbius for Sony officially. So I'm, uh, I'm gonna tell you, you don't have to say anything because I know you've seen it. You can't talk about it.

But like, you can't talk about Morbius. But we, we can talk about it. I think this movie's going to be a pile of piss. I don't, I'm hoping I'm hoping I'm wrong. Wednesday, March 30th at the Cynumark. Hosting the Red Carpet, Codandro with Jared Lato. You don't need to say anything.

I don't even know what this movie is. You don't need to say a word. I just feel, and I hope I'm wrong. I want it to be good. I want it to be a good movie. I just, the signs are pointing to look out. I'll be honest with you. The fact that the trailer feels like you're watching Venom 3,

and then the fact that he even is like, Who are you? I'm Venomé. I just think, I'm Dr. Reikov. I'm like, you went for the exact same humor. You didn't even attempt. No, but I'm just the problem, here's the problem for me is that the embargo, I'm going to see it on Wednesday morning.

Okay. The embargo drops Wednesday night. It comes out Thursday night. Yeah, that's a problem. Typically, if you do that, that's because you don't feel great about what. That's, let's let the audience be the, let's hope the Rotten Tomatoes audience score overpowers the critics is what it seems like to me. But I could be wrong, and I hope I'm wrong because I want this movie to be good. I don't know.

It's been moved. A lot of different reasons why it was moved, whether it was because of things going on in the world or whether it was because they were trying to, trying to get the hell out of the way of Spider-Man, because the box office wise still, because Spider-Man is still making money. I was just thinking about it. I still haven't seen it the second time. I watched it.

I just watched it the other night. It's on digital now. I know I know that. But see, that's the problem. I'm not going to buy it on digital when I also want a physical copy. Yeah, I'm a physical copy. I just got to wait. Here's what I'll say about that movie.

I still like it a lot. I'm glad I saw it in the theater because there's certain movies that I've been very adamant about that I, so I saw it at home. Who cares? I watched that. I don't think it's definitely not. that's a movie that you definitely should have seen the first time with a crowd. Yeah, the first time is, I think it'll hold up at home for, you know, that,

but I don't think it'll be, you'll ever have that again. That experience is so one of the one. My wife watched it, and I said, what did you think? And she's like, yeah, it was good. She's some cheesy parts at times, but it was good. She didn't have that same kind of emotional reaction that we had. Plus, I realized that it's too late to do, to have done it now, but like that rewatch that we all did, that helped dramatically.

Oh, it was incredible. Yeah, so I think, because we got, you know, it's not a third movie. it's a ninth movie I mean an eighth whatever the hell it is if you count Civil War yeah no it plays it plays good

it's all right look we if you guys saw yesterday don't do you 5 plus 3 is 8 or you had Civil War Infinity War and game it would be 11

it'd be 10 Counts Infinity War Ingame yeah Civil War Oh you're including Civil War I'm including Civil War

Okay So 8 or 11 if I'm If I'm Yeah but we Those maths But the ones that really That you really needed to watch

The all of I guess I mean Civil War for a little because of the Ant May stuff But for the most part, it was the Toby ones, the Andrew ones, and the full-on. Hoping we get three, man. Sony's teasing it.

Oh, what? Andrew Garfields? Yeah. Are they still teasing it? Yeah, and this week, their social media campaign keeps talking about it. Yeah, they keep, like, using the font from Amazing Spider-Man. If they're smart, they should do it. Oh, 100%.

It'll make so much money. Andrew Garfield is so hot right now. He is, and the other question is so hot right now. Do they do Toby also? Roll it up an aluminum foil, sell it to the queen for earrings. Well, there's a, that's a route. There's a route. Holy God.

I wish I knew you. The energy in this studio is palpable. This is why we had to do it in person. This is why it's back. Holy shit. He needs some milk. I mean, when you open a show with a two-minute stream of consciousness diatribe of lies, where else do you go?

Two minutes. Where else do you go? I thought I was here by myself for three hours. Bro, you thought that was two minutes. I'm so sorry for your girlfriend. Oh. I'm so sorry. I love you, baby.

It was like 30 seconds, my guy. You know what? Times are flat. And frankly, that's also my excuse in the bedroom. Bro, I need to tell you, if you don't already have one, you got to get like an Apple Watch or some sort of watch like that. There you go. So what are you?

Some joy mode. Well, I mean, that too. I'm sure that's probably a sponsor today. But I'm saying, so we have a code. So it used to be yoga. Now it's equestrian. So because what it ended up happening is Chris has started to do with yoga by herself again. And I was like,

Who you fucking. I was like, yo, who does? Who's the other equestrian? Who's the horse? And I know exactly how she answered. Apologies. I love with you.

Like guys check each other's like fit stats. Infidelity. But that's the fun thing is because we've told all our friends about this now. So if somebody randomly I get a question you're like, yeah, bitch, get it. That's amazing. You could also set records. You can have like different high stakes. Your PPM was crazy.

You would have been proud of me. I did when I went to see the Lost City, I did some. curling. Yeah? Yeah, curled the pretzel bites, right? Over and over and over again. With the nacho cheese. It was delicious. Man's going to be fit for summer folks. Hey, look, if they will let me, that's the one thing I will give you about watching stuff at home off of the HBO Maxes and the Prairamount Plus is the fact that you can sit there and be like, man, this movie trash.

I got that stage. I love that. Because that's, there's nothing worse than going to the theater, spending money to go out to the theater, having a nice, and then the movie just is shit, right? It's like, because you're just because you're like, oh, it's a go. I went out of my house for this. I didn't need to. I had to deal with people for this. When I didn't need to, if it's a good movie, then it's worth it.

And you feel like you're in that experience. But yeah, you're right. The way that TV works now, that's why the streaming services and all these things are working so well, because you just, I popped on, when I watched the Adam Project last week, just laying on my couch, watching a movie. It was fun. You know, I enjoyed it. And I enjoyed that once.

I probably would enjoy seeing the theater also, but I enjoyed watching that movie. So I've, I'm pretty extreme exhibition theater. I like the exhibitor side of things, but I've actually found lately the more movies I watch at home, the more I'm like, man, I wish I'd waited and see it. Like, Adam Project was one where I was like, I wish I could have, and that wasn't even an option to see in theater, really. And Moon Night I saw, and can't talk about it yet,

but when I saw it at the premiere on the big screen, that's such a movie that's seeing the L cap. So I also, I've also seen the four episodes, we can say that. Yeah. All I'll ask you is this, because I had, there are a couple times and I wonder because they, just so everybody knows, the ones that they sent you, the first two are, like, done,

and then three and fours that they're still adding stuff to. So I'm wondering how it works, but was the CGI, how did the CGI look on the big screen? That's what surprised me is it really holds up. The lighting looked incredible. I was worried about the cape for a couple things and it didn't look bad. Like it felt like a movie in that environment. Plus, they're, you know, longer.

So, you know, back to back, it felt like I saw a Moon Knight movie. It's so special. Well, it's funny you mentioned that, Christian, because we had this argument, I want to say on SCN maybe or maybe it was a big thing I don't remember but you obviously made it very clear you don't want any more Star Wars films for at least a little while

you want to focus on TV. It depends. It depends on what the movie is and it depends on if for Star Wars if it's a movie that like Tycho or Tidi's movie I'm excited for because I obviously want to know what it is but I know that he's going to put the time, the care and the effort into it and I know it's actually going to stick

right? The standalone movie is. movies like a rogue squatter and I thought was a good idea because unless it because when you start to have too much expectations in Star Wars that tie in everything I think because there's too many cooks in the kitchen on the film side because to them there's more at stake because of the money getting people out there's I think they're they have more creative freedom during TV so I get that yeah I the only reason I bring that up is that like for example mandolorean is one of the best TV shows we've seen I agree ever yeah I think what really is lacking and what's

sucks and what they should figure out how to solve that problem, they are shooting these Star Wars shows. They are shooting these MCU TV shows like movies. Yeah. Both in what they're putting in, like, obviously the cast, but in the CGI, in the storytelling, in the spectacle. So what sucks is that I know that a lot of our at-home systems are getting pretty damn good. It still does not be, I would kill to watch, you know, you know what I'm saying,

to watch like loki. Just real, real thing. Hold that thought. You got to move that mic. It looks like Winston's penis is in your face. Just right there. But see, I'm coming from this side. Oh, no, I gave you.

That was intimate. Use your words. Use your words carefully. You're coming from the side. Take it easy. We get it. This starts thrusting in any direction at me. I just feel, oh God.

Prison! I'm so sorry, officer. Snick the toilet while you're here. Yeah, yo, yeah, yo. Hey, Coy, just put on a question. Salt cat soap would not get dropped. The salt cat soap to knock it dropped. Just put out equestrian mode.

It's okay. Equestrian mode. It's equestrian mode. Oh, my BPMs. Oh, wow. It's an episode. I'm so sorry, audience. This is what happens when you don't give us a movie to watch, you sons of this.

Yeah. Well, now we know. Speaking of which, if you guys didn't know, we have the watch along or the rewatch of of the fandom, the phantom menace. Yeah, the phantom minutes. We're doing that. It's bold.

The mask of phantasm. That is up on the Patreon. I got to patreon. com slash SienLive. The link is in the description. But we do one rewatch per month and it's exclusive to patrons and you guys can get that.

And this time last month, it was myself and Dorena doing the thing. This month, it is myself, Winston and Koi, do Mask of Fantasms. So we're going to be able to, if you want to see the full.

I had never, I had never seen it before. So you'll get my first thoughts on it. you'll get Coy and Winston their revisit on it. So make sure you join over there. Now, speaking of Batman, the Batman, had a scene that had Barry Keegan, the Joker, and he was in the movie more so than, and by the way, spoilers for those people who haven't seen the Batman yet, there's a scene in the movie that they kept in that we all agreed,

Winston so much that he even repeated Coy afterwards to repeat the same point. Bermatim. verbatim. But we all agree that this was a scene that could have been a great post-credit scene, and it has just the voice of the Joker talking to really. And I felt like it was a different tone completely. It didn't even really fit the seven, like, Fincher tone. However, they released this scene with the Joker and the Batman.

And my thoughts on this, and I want to hear the guys, because they both watched it before we started the show today. I don't know anything for how they feel about it. So I'll give my thoughts first and then I want to hear what they say. The scene to me is a great scene. It's shot very well. I think that Barry Keegan actually fits in incredibly as the Joker, where inside of the tone way more.

And I like that you don't necessarily see him, but you start to reveal throughout the scene how mangled he is and not only mangled physically, but mangled mentally. And he's talking about these things that are, and it's a very clearly starling Hannibal Lecter type scene as they're going back and forth. and he's asking for advice. It's a,

it's, and what I loved about it is they established that the Joker and the Batman know each other already. They've gone through some stuff together, and I love that. Now, that being said, very smart that they cut this scene out of the movie. It,

it, it reveals so much of the actual plot and everything that we learn about why the Riddler is doing everything later on in the movie, he tells us. And I think it's smart for them to release it now, because, and I said in our Batman show, I didn't need to see the Joker ever again, especially, I mean, I like Barry Keegan, but I need to see him.

I change my mind. I don't necessarily know, and we can get into a larger conversation about that after we hear your thoughts about whether or not he should join the second Batman, or do we think he's better suited for the Arkham series? But that being said, we'll ask Winston first. Winston, thoughts on the scene itself and the breakdown of it. All right, so as far as giving us context to the character, I think that it was smart that they cut it, but it did provide that link that we needed to go. Now I understand why we're bothering having him in the arc

in an arc on that at one point. So that's fine. That being said, maybe I just need to watch it again. I felt very differently. I felt that Barry was trying to do his best Heath impression. I think that there was this weird thing where he was like, well, I don't want to do what Jared did. And obviously Heath is the gold standard.

And like, I got to put my own twist on it. And like, it just literally felt. And maybe it's just because of the timing of it or how the intro is just kind of straight into him or whatever it is. I just got a reading of someone trying to do a Heathcloth. And I think part of that is that I just need more tape on him to make a decision one way or the other. But it rubbed me the wrong way in the sense that I was just kind of like...

You just felt he was doing an impression. All right, all right. One to one. Corey, where do you land? I could not be more biased because he's an Irishman playing the Joker. And that makes me so happy that the Rokes Gallery is being taken over by the old country. I personally felt the way they shot it endeared me to a character that I was reluctant. to experience again so soon

because I consider Heath the gold standard and because I've seen other people try to do it and not feel good about those takes that Heath's Joker is so unique and special that I did a video ranking the Batman's after we did the rewatch, like just a little video and the amount of people that are like, yeah, but the Dark Night's not good without Heath,

yeah, but like neither is Heat without Pacino. Like you can't take out an integral part of a movie. And it's such a weird argument, but that's how good Heath was that it's separated even above the good movie that is Dark Night. My thing was the way they shot this, that introduction made me go,

oh, they're giving me almost like a crime scene of him. They're giving me, the way they showed his hands looked like seven when they showed the mangled hands. Like they did so many little detail things where I felt I was interested in the Joker in a way that I didn't think I could be. And for me,

it actually improved the scene in the movie. I get why they cut it narratively, but it made that shot. Like, that is literally seven. Like that is, that is beautiful. That, that is great. Because you get to build up to the Joker. The funny thing is, is I don't necessarily even have beef with the scene.

Yeah. Just for me, maybe I just, just, just Barry's take for now. If this is all I have, and I'll watch it again. You know, it's only a five minute scene. But so far, like, I agree with Christian as well. It is beautifully shot. Yeah. That is one of the most beautifully shot.

So it just bugged you on the portrayal. Yeah. But I think it improves upon that credit scene that we liked as a credit scene. That, I don't think anybody can. Okay, because it improves that whole dynamic. It definitely improves it because I was, I didn't know what we were getting. What I liked about Barry Keegan's actual, I thought it was, when I saw it, I felt there were sprinkles of Heath. There's no doubt about it.

I didn't feel it was a pure rip-off. My personal take on. I felt that it was subtle in a lot of moments because he's even saying to him, he says, because he seems like he's out, like just playing you the whole way and he's just complete lunatic from start to finish. There's parts with the way Barry Kagan's playing this. Like, yeah, he's all mangled. He's like, didn't you read the file? I love that he's smarter than Batman.

Yeah, he's talking to him. And then he's just like, and then you get to that maniacal laugh that keeps popping in there. And I actually thought it was, because you knew the laugh was coming at one point. You're like, how is it going to play? And I thought he did it like two or three times. But each time, it was like, that was nice, the way he peppered in there. I loved his performance. I thought it was great.

And it makes me. So here's the second part of this conversation and probably the overall title of this episode. do we want to see, because we both, we had all said we don't need to see the Joker again, especially not in the second movie. Do we, will we rather see the Joker? I'll pose two scenarios. One, in this capacity,

talking like a Hannibal Lecter to Batman during the second movie and not being the main villain, right? Or being the main villain, and then scenario three actually, or is having, or being a part of, the Arkham series and filling his role in there until we finally get to a movie. Winston, go ahead. I'm going to go with the let him play the Hannibal role.

In the second one. I think you clearly wanted to do it before. And so I like the idea of maybe beyond all that, if he's actually his mastermining plan, is that he is riling up all of the Arkham inmates. And he's the one kind of maybe pushing, being the agent of chaos, but as a little bit more hands off, until it allows him to do whatever he wants to do. I would be here for that, but I don't need him out in the streets doing what the Joker does,

not because I don't love that, but because we've done it a lot, you know? I personally would tie him as the thing that puts Arkham and Batman 2 together, even over Batman. What I would do is I'd have him be the Hannibal Lecter of the show and the Hannibal Lecter of the Batman 2. And that way you've got this great, everyone wants to see the Joker. Everyone loves the character of the Joker.

That'll get people's eyes on the HBO Mac series. that'll give people's eyes on the hype of Batman 2, and then he's the bad guy and maybe Batman 3 or 4. But have your cake and eat it too. Let him be that thing that connects those things. Because at the end of the day, if you have Batman in Arkham too much, it's a Batman show.

You want it to be an Arkham show. If you have Joker in Arkham and an Arkham show, everybody's happy. Speaking of you something you just said, and we'll go back to this conversation. I saw the Lost City. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. They used one of my jokes in stand-up. No.

They didn't steal it, obviously, but they used it. That's so funny. You just said, you just said, have your cake and eat. it too. Yeah. What the hell else you're going to do with it? It's a cake. You're going to put petunias on it?

It's a fucking cake. You eat it. And Sandra Bullock at one point goes, what else are you going to do with it? It's a cake. I was like, no. But anyway, I'm done at the New York Comedy Club. Sandy Bullock took my kids. That's it.

So here's the question. Was Lost City good? The Lost City, let me ask you this question. Did you like the trailer? I haven't seen it. Okay. I'm obsessed to the trailer. Then you'll love it.

Okay. The conversation that we had last week on this. show. I hold stronger than I did even when I said it last week. There are movies like the Batman and Spider-Man and those movies that right now are crushing at the box office for obvious reasons. And then there's movies that we mentioned like Bullet Train, which I think is going to be a risk to go see in the theater. There's movies like the Adam Project decided not to go into theater because maybe it doesn't do as well and it decides to take its shot. This is a movie that should come out in theaters because it's something that we don't have and that's a date movie.

Rom-coms are rare, man. It's not even just a rom-com. It's a romantic adventure movie. It's a throwback movie, and it's clever. It's fun. It has heart. Okay. So it's, if it's one of these movies that you, you know, you want to go on a date

and you want to go with your significant other and have a good time, you will have a good time. If it's like, I hated the trailer and I didn't want to see anything to do with Sandra Bullock, you'll hate the movie. Okay. The only reason why I asked is because I was like, if the movie bombs, you still got your joke. But if the movie becomes one of the greatest rom-coms of all time, your joke's gone.

Jokes. Hell no, it's not. I got receipts, he's got years of tape. Years of tape, Sandy. It's funny because someone had said, I had done it at some joke that I had done like 10 years ago. And then someone had said,

well, it was on some show or something. I don't care. I have video from 2002. I'm going to get a shit. So without spoilers, because I just want expectations to be at a right level. Is there more Brad Pitt than the trailer?

Like, do we get, is he in it? Yeah, okay, because he's delightful. And he's great in it. But I think that, but I really enjoyed Channing,

Cadem's character, because it was a little bit more unexpected than I thought. Okay. And Sandra both. That's the thing. I was thinking it was going to be, I don't want to ruin a point. Yeah, yeah, I want to see it. Go see it. But anyway.

It comes out. Well, it comes out today. It would already be out. Oh, great. Yeah. I mean, remember, it is a 20-5. It is a 25. It is a 25.

Yes. That's right. So speaking of the future, going back, going back to the Joker. 30 seconds. Yeah. And saying what Koi said, I think Arcom's a good idea. friend. I think that's how you put it all together. Said to bring it back. I had to bring it back. I had to get my

dignity back. My brain didn't connect the dots. I saw it not happening. It was good though. I was like times of lights. I was like referencing our last joke and you're about to repeat me and I see it happening. That's your I'm gonna repeat Koi's thought face. Like sometimes he just goes to another planet and what it is is if you if you watch if you look in my eyes because it becomes a dead stare it's literally it's literally that Windows 95 where the machine just completely reset. You know that alien and men and black? Like he just

just went on vacation. Like the guy running you inside, he's like, not gotta get lunch, bro. Right. Yeah, there's just motor function, but no Winston.

Inside out, everybody just wants to sleep. I'm like, but you make the movement of acknowledge. And that's the worst part is it's like, Winston's engaged in.

Right, but it's usually always, right. It's such a rendering. Fear, fear takes over the controls and just doesn't know, and finally joy just pops

back up and now, now Joy's in control. I don't know many people that actually have the spinning Mac wheels in their eyes. but he goes full-like. What's the name of the news, Joy something? What's the sponsor?

Joy mode. Joe mode. Bro, first of all, that's hilarious. They should try and hit up Disney and see if they can borrow Joey for that. It's a very different ad. All right. We'll get back into the Joker.

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Yes. I catch you. Did you just. I got it. I got it. By my face. Damn it. We could have sold it.

Pretend that I got him. I got him. Good. I sent him over you. I sent him over your way. You went to double team. It was like, it was like Jordan and Pippet.

We got them. Yeah. All right, anyway. Let's get back. Let's get back. Why wasn't that a wide? Well, Obama was like, get out of here. Yeah, let's get back to Arkham.

Back to Arkham. I like the idea of setting them up through Arkham because I think it's that same conversation, Winston you asked earlier about like Star Wars stuff, right? This is the beauty I think of streaming in general is that when you build up a character, and obviously the Joker has been built up many times. over, but when you're trying to get him over in wrestling terms, right? Getting him over with the fans, this new version of him, you want to get him in a place where people have eyes on him all the time.

So if you put him in Arkham and people want more when it's just like little sprinkles, you're like, oh, I want to see more of that guy. I like what he did there, because look at this scene as a perfect example. Yeah. I didn't want to see the Joker anymore. I like, uh, no more. And then this scene, I'm like, well, all right, let this take. I'm like, I kind of like what they're doing here with him. And I like that idea. And I also would be okay if he does show up in the Batman in the second movie if he's in this capacity. And then if he's ultimately, if they do like four movies and then he's the final villain, he breaks out and it's the end of it and they got to, then that's fun.

If they set him up through Arkham, have him play out in either the second or the third movie and then whatever they fit. Do they say it's definitely a trilogy? That's what Pattinson's been alluding to. And I think as soon as they announced two, they're going to announce three. I think they're just going to say like the bad end trilogy. I'd also call it the Cape Crusader and then the world's greatest detective. Like I'd lean in because you're going to make the money.

Might as well. And then like lean into the styles, because the next one he needs to work on his fighting style, because right now he just gets shot. Like he's a closed fist, but he's blunt here and there. And then it'd be cool to see him actually be smarter than someone in the third one, because at this point, like the Joker outwitted him. So it'd be cool to see that evolve. Yeah.

That's what I'd do. Yeah. So, but Winston, you will say this. Even though you saw the, you feel that it was a Heath Ledger kind of imitation, you are still intrigued enough that you'd want to see this character. Oh, I would literally what it is is that I, am not sold, but I am, what's, what's the, the Leo line from Django? It's like, first you have my curiosity. You have my curiosity right now. That's, that, that's all you have. You do not have my

attention, but you do have my curiosity. There was enough there for me to go, okay, I'm willing to give this kid a shot and see what's going on. But my very, and to be honest, it's the stuff that you all were talking about. It's the him looking at the violence and the little chuckles and how those are like kind of falling out of him. I believe that. That's why you have my curiosity. But the rest of it, was kind of like, okay. You feel like you've seen it before. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

I mean, I don't think that's an unfair criticism. And I think that I've seen that from some people. But I do like the idea of the Arkham stuff. I think that that's when, because I can't remember which one you guys just said it, but the idea of putting someone in there to sell them, to sell the show. Yeah, I think connecting those things. And he's as big as Batman. Like the Joker is as big of a character.

100%. We haven't seen him really inside of the TV show. minus, you know, Caesar Romero and the Mark Campbell animated stuff. But to do it this way inside of a live action, to do, and then when you couple that with the fact that the penguin and Colin Farrell is going to be doing his thing. Now you've got the dichotomy of organized crime, organized, you know, in Arkham, you've got the police force mirroring.

Like, there's so much you could do with, like, imagery and styles. And DC now is now coming to play. Yeah. They're really coming to play with their DC shows. I mean, their comics are that right now. There's seven Batman books. There's four different spinoffs of the Robbins. There's three.

There's two Nightwing books. And they have Peacemaker on for as far as the TV show that went really well. Yeah. So, man. That's why I just wish June Patrol got more respect, man. That show is so good. I hear it's really good. It's really good.

It was like the first one. When they launched HBO Max, that was the show that they had. If I remember it was Titans, then Doom Patrol, then Swamp Thing, which failed miserably. Was that HBO Max? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That was, well, technically, DC Universe. But was it made specifically for HBO Max?

I think it was made for DC Universe. And it was a choir. Right, right, because they had that separate thing. But so was, so was Titans and Doom Patrol, but that's the whole thing. Since it got absorbed, I'm counting it, sort of, you know. You know, I'd be honest, and obviously no disrespect to anybody involved, I totally forgot about that. Yeah, man.

And it was like, that was the problem. Like, Amy was on it. Like, it was a big thing. And then, well, HBO Max, that was a very smart move by them. Oh, yeah. Because it just took everything that they had. have. Yeah, I think that network, we talk about it all the time, how that's the best blockbuster.

Like, it's literally the best backstock. Easily. Plus, their IP is really good. And if we get a Penguin show, a Narcom show, especially with the Joker, like, it's going to be hard to deny HBO's superiority. That's hard. That is hard to deny. Superiority, I don't know yet.

I think they're in the game. I think if they get those two shows as good, then I think that's a conversation to have over Netflix. I don't know, man. I think Netflix, Disney, and HBO, are going to be trading the baton for a while here. Here's the thing. I'm cool with that.

HBO Max, there may be some, but so far, HBO Max hasn't missed. That's what I'm saying is like, Netflix misses a lot. They throw a lot of spaghetti at the wall. Well, yeah, but here's, but here's the thing that you, they haven't missed inside of our genre, right? Oh, that's, there are other things, though, Winston,

that on that, on that stuff that you're just not watching. I'm not watching. But hold on, hold on. I'll put it to you this way, because I've been on a Starcraft kick for some reason. I don't know if you ever played either of you, but it's a role, it's a real play. It's a real-time strategy game. You have three different races.

They all do three different things very well. Netflix, for those nerds out there that understand my analogy here, is kind of Zerg in the sense that it's just, they just put out a shit ton of stuff. Yeah. They put out so much content that something's going to land. Yeah. Whereas when you look at, say, Disney,

Disney feels very like Protas. We're throwing all our money at this. We're going to make sure the Mandalorian slaps. And there's not going to be denying that whatsoever. You're using the same thing. But the same thing. there's tons of stuff on Disney that is not aimed for us. I don't disagree with you,

but I'm saying I don't like, even with the oranges, the new blacks, the house of cards, I don't necessarily know Squid Game Maybe. I don't know any of those shows that had hit that hard as the Disney shows and what they did to pop culture.

Because we talk about those shows. And obviously we're in the genre content space. Right. But you do see that conversation all over every social media. Whereas I don't see that a lot with, you know, other networks personally. Yeah, right.

That's what I'm saying those three. And I think as much as I agree with you guys, that Netflix throws out a lot of stuff, they got some bangers, man, whether it's, whether it's, whether it's Cobra Kai, Ozark, you know, stranger things. Like they've got, but you're right,

there's so much stuff that, and the other side of it, now they're playing, and what they did, they were just known, you brought up House of Cards and those, they were just known for those series. Like, they were becoming like the new HBO.

Yeah. And now that they did, that was very smart. They're the best evolving business in the streaming that they have, but even when they started with taking out Blockbuster by sending out the stuff

and then going to stream it. They're ahead of the curve. And they revolutionized the whole streaming thing. But like what you do though, the other thing though with Netflix is that movies, man, when you look at the Adam Project and the Red Notice,

that's another thing that they're doing. A Charlie Steron movie? Yeah, and they're trending all the time. That's good point. There's tons of movies that they have consistently that, because you're right also, Winston, the IP that they're playing in in Star Wars like for our Disney

Disney Plus. But as you said, they're targeting one particular IP in Marvel and Star Wars as where Netflix is kind of just, they've got a lot. I am a dog with a bone. I cannot shake this metaphor because it fits fucking perfectly because I could keep going with the, I'm not going to because I know, you guys don't know what I'm talking about so that doesn't help.

StarCraft. But like it legitimately, the balance, and I give them credit, each of these streamers has picked a lane and they know how to handle it. And what they're trying to do is once they've conquered that lane, that they are trying to branch out and take the other ones from, like sweep the leg essentially. Yeah. And HBO Max, though, as you said, Coy,

what they're able to do because HBO has been such a giant and a media mogul for so long that they have so many relationships inside of the movies that they have, and plus the fact now that they have the Warner Brothers catalog and these other things that they're able to play in the movie space, but Disney now with Fox and bringing that. That's why the three of them... And the Prentil, the Code, that's going to be huge.

Like that perincent thing, it means we might be turning Because right now if I have a date night, we throw on, I don't throw on Netflix, I throw on HBO Max. Right. So, but with Disney getting that parental code, that could shift. Let's browse the Fox Library. Right. Let's see what we got it. Because there's so much.

And then the MGM thing we talked about last week. Like Amazon's about to throw down 40,000 movies. They're in fourth place. Currently. They're in fourth place. And Apple's is, has like, you know, is playing around. Apple's just prestige. But Hulu's part of Disney.

Hulu's part of Disney. Oh, good point. I was thinking of the actual app. Yeah. I think Hulu's going to be eventually all Hulu's stuff is now that they do this parental stuff. I think it's going to get full of all of Hulu's going to go into Disney Plus. Always sunny in Philadelphia is Disney princes. Yeah. Oh my God. You cannot have Sweet D. Charlie Day is a Disney Prince, son. Dude, sweet D is not a Disney Prince.

Oh, you know, are you, Disney Princess from the streets. Streets of Philly. But that's what I'm saying. They're going to, they're going to get Hulu. Saturn Night Live, everything. Yeah, it's definitely coming. Because it's such a good brand. Like, you want to lean into the Disney Plus. It's going to be putting the Disney Plus. It's going to be really interesting in five years when we look back at these conversations. But that's what? But wait, I have a question there. How does that work? Isn't Disney, isn't Disney?

That's set on a lot. That's universal, isn't it? Yeah. That's NBC. It's over on Peacock. Right. It's on Peacock. So then how, so is it because Lulu has a deal, they have a deal and license.

You have a TV distribution licensing going on. So that's why they, even though it was owned by Fox before, it played Fox shows, ABC shows, NBC shows, etc. Right. It's always ever evolving, too, right? You like the Marvel Netflix. Those were Marvel-owned shows that Netflix had the rights to for a time. I think SNL is the same. Well, there's also certain movies, and there's things that you see all the time.

Like, certain, there's movies that will be from the studio, like, whether it's on Disney Plus, whatever is, but it'll also be in another, I've seen tons of stuff where it's been on HBO Max also, and they're licensing it, and they're, the same way that when we were kids, like HBO would have it for a little bit, showtime would have it for a little bit and all those things. Spider-Man's starting on stars? Right, and that's what I mean. It'll continue there. The new, No Way Home is debuting online on stars.

Yeah. They got the rights. Stars threw down money. because Sony doesn't have anything. But it's not in Disney until. I'm surprised they still didn't figure something out. You had PlayStation, which has something. The PSN was a problem.

Remember those PlayStation? I think that's what it is. Well, wait a minute. Why am I acting like I'm a stand for that when they took all my game library and ain't nobody help me out, man? Yeah, don't know. What are they going to do, Sony? Because Sony's like, I mean, their library, I don't think is big enough to try to play.

That's another reason why. They got such good IP. It's Sony Columbia, though, right? Yeah, but they have a good movie library. Yeah. But I think it's, I don't know. At this point, at this point, if you didn't jump into the game, five years ago, seven years ago.

Yeah, it's tough because Disney made that move. Once Disney got into it and then, kudos to HBO Max though. Because HBO Max is like, no, we can play. And they did. And when they did, they fired it out quick. They got the stuff out that they did. And, you know, it was really smart was when that Action Park Doc came out. And they got in early because that was one,

because now there's someone to the big IP. stuff coming out, but do you guys wind up watching that movie? Where's that? We talked about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you, I don't remember any. We did we talked about it for a long time. I know we did on S.C.N. Online. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but, like, you know, , Corey, I went to that place. I see, I heard legend of it because I was East Coast kid, too. So, like, I never went though. I went many times and, and avoided death many times. My, my, my friends, I was talking my, I got to say, I'm going to call my, I always call my friend John Pinto, and I'm going to tell him to tell a story of Action Park. He never picks up the phone. He

picked up once. If I've called him, if I've called him 40 times, he's picked up once. So let's, let's see. Johnny Pinto, Joker, Arkham, or Batman? It's a safe bet to get, you got, yay or nay, he's going to pick up. I'm a good nay. I'll go yay. Mix it up. It's four 30. It's a different time over there. He doesn't, he doesn't really pick up anymore. He's only picked up once. I think he knows better. He knows he's on air. He's like, I'm not going to do it. No, he tells a great story about Action Park, but he comes on, hey, Christian. No, you know, I got a text from him. No, he's not, he's not. He's not. He's not, he's

Not like Richard, but he's, he'll call me off and be like, because he'll want to get away from his wife and kids. Like, you want to play virtual golf? And we play, we play VR golf. So, damn. He didn't pick up. Hey, listen, this isn't a, John Pinto, he wasn't around. So I got to be honest with you, Pinto.

If Christian's calling you to talk about Action Park when you almost can roll off the sled, you should, you should be calling him. What else are you doing? You're hanging out in your backyard with your kids in an iced tea? Listen, I got to get a slice. Man, I miss New York. Have you, have you seen it? Action Park, yeah.

Yeah, it's fantastic. It's terrifying. It's so good. I was so nostalgic for a park I'd never been to because it was so similar to parks I had been to. Like, they really captured nostalgia in that. But I guess that's just coming back around HBO Max. That's what I mean by they don't miss. Action Park didn't miss.

Yeah, that the Tiger documentary was incredible. That was Netflix, wasn't it? Tiger King? No, no, no, not Tiger King. The Tiger Woods documentary. Watch your mouth. Oh, I missed them. Tiger Woods.

I thought you're saying Tiger King. Well, I guess he is the king. But we were talking about different Tiger King. By the way, I was that speaking of Tiger King, I haven't watched a trailer for it. I don't even know if there is one yet, but I knew it. I knew it.

That Kate McKinnon one that's coming out. That's serious. Is it out already? Joe versus Carol? Is he eaten a pile of piss? I feel like it is. I've heard nothing about it. I've been watching Belair.

Belair is shit? How is it? I love Bel Air. I didn't think Will would put his name behind it unless it was incredible. That was my, my whole thing is that they did a really good job of finding a way to, yeah, yeah, just take all the comedy out of it, how do we make this, like, really work?

And it works, like, very well, in my opinion. That's good. And that's good, that's Peacock. You know, it's funny I pitched, and like, obviously, it's kind of like your joke. Like, people have ideas that are similar. On movie fights, one of my winning movie fights was I pitched a Fresh Prince of Philadelphia, where Will Smith's kid and have it be Jaden goes to Philly and has to learn the hard side of the streets, and he gets humbled by poverty instead of,

wealth and it's the same story. Jackie Chan in that one. And Jackie Chan is the father. But like that way you've got the inversion and then like the Bel Air feels like that tone. Bro. What's so funny is because they obviously didn't want to have a situation where Jeffrey just becomes the butler again. So he's like the house manager.

But what he really does, he deals with all of the dirt of the family. Oh, that's awesome. It's like you're talking to who? Hey, take them out. Like, dude, it's so good. What's it a crime family? Not really. but there's like a little bit of shade kind of happening under the thing.

Wow. And Uncle Phil? He's, I mean, that's the whole thing. What, from what I could tell, everything is above board,

minus a few little indiscretions here and there where it's like, ah, you should be doing that. And that's kind of what's happening with the family. So like, again, Jeffrey is the dude that makes sure everybody stays clean. Right.

But the rest of the family, they're just kind of living their life and, and just trying to make things happen. So there's so much good TV. Like, I just finished Pam and Tommy. I'm, I'm on season two.

Have you watched Wu Tang American Saga? I know about it. Dude, it's insanely good. Yeah. Well, look, there's tons of stuff out there all the time that you can find. That's why I never, it's hilarious. And still, there's tons of stuff you can find, and everyone will go through this,

especially if you're in a relationship. You'll spend about an hour looking for something. I literally make lists, man. I literally make lists, and then we literally roll a 20 die of what number is. Yeah, leave it to fate. And how long even with you, girl? This is a weird answer.

Depends on which one we're talking about because I got a dating thing going on. Right, so none of this counts what you're saying here. But like, there's none of this. You're right, because it's all about the mood. Because it could start off with like, hey, baby, what? No, I don't really feel like doing that. No, I'm not in the move for that.

We watched that. It's like, I don't want to say, I don't like him. I don't like, oh, she's all right. Oh, yeah, how you feel about that? I don't know in the mood for that. I'm too early enough. I'm a honeymoon phase. No, I'll have bad dreams if I watch that.

That, okay, no, no, no, that. And you're going through it and just, like, and Amazon, there's so much stuff, and we've picked nothing. And she's like, if you recommend Robocop one more time. And it's over. But now it comes to a place that I know I'm going to get their reaction.

We'll go through it. And I go, hey, I got a great idea. What about Robocop? Like slipping it in there, like maybe she forgot that I mentioned it the other thousand three times. Christian, I found out a trick. Someone put me on a trick. Do you have the same issue with your wife as far as, like, trying to figure out what are we going to do for dinner

and then when you start talking about it's like, I don't want that, I don't want that, I don't want that, et cetera. No, because here's the other, here's the problem that I have that I try to make it easy. Okay. Because I do get that conversation every day, three days, like, it'll be like, it'll be in the morning. So what do you want for dinner?

Hey, what do you want for dinner tomorrow night? And the answer, though, is to make it easy is whatever you guys feel like. Well, that's not helpful. I'm like, what do you mean it's not helpful? I will eat, slap a piece of a, of, a, of, a, a bread and ham on it and peanut butter and I'll eat the stupid thing. It doesn't matter.

It's food. I'll eat it. I'll eat it. That's not helpful. I get what you're saying. And I also get it from the standpoint that it sounds like with Kristen, like a lot of times she's like, can you give me ideas? Because trying to come up with the decision isn't always helpful.

I say what you're in the mood for. But exactly. So what I've learned, I ask her what she wants for dinner either the day before or in the morning. So then we're not like getting ready to figure out what to do for dinner. dinner? No, I know. So she got time to think about it. Well, so that's the thing. It's like, what are you in the mood for? Chicken? Like a chicken tender? Sounds great. Like, let's not

go through a full of full menu. We don't, oh, speaking of full menu. I got to tell you about this disaster that I had at the sushi last night. So I had. The level of engagement and you were like casually a story, but no, no, because I said to myself, I have to bring this up on air. I went to my favorite sushi place

that I love. I love. Which one? I mean, I don't want to bring it up on air. Does the story go dark? No, it's not It's just, we were, we were out, we were having a, we were having a dinner. And so, and like I said, I've been going to this place for over 12 years. It's, it's my favorite place and still is. Food is absolutely incredible. One guy comes over and he's very nice, he fills up the waters and he's doing everything.

And I remember, I was, I was a very bad server, but I was, but I was a server years ago. And I, and I tip pretty well. I tip anywhere between 20, 25% every time. Even if the, even if the guy or girl is not very good and they, but as long as they're polite and everything, too, and they're, like, I've been there. And like I said, I've been terrible, so I understand, this guy that comes over, twat.

So this guy comes over, and first of all, he's got his mask halfway down. It's like, wear it or don't. Wear it or don't. That should drives me crazy. It's like, look, I understand we're in a place now, people, and we're outside, don't, but don't. I could be wearing it, but I'm not.

Well, then fucking take it off. wipe your ass with it. Do something, right? So that's part one. Part two now is, I hadn't been out in a little bit. And I'm like, and I'm waiting. And he comes over with his pad. He's like, hmm?

And I'm like, oh, I didn't get a menu. He's like, you scan the code. And I'm going to scan your fucking ass in a second. So I'm like, oh, okay, I'll scan the code. And I was being, you know, okay, so I forgot. I didn't scan the code. I tried to joke with the guy a little bit. Wasn't it happened.

So then he takes you out of my wife orders first. And my wife goes, I'm listening to her because I know that she's like, I'd like, because last time we ordered from the place, she ordered this, the vegetable roll, and they put, like, the salad thing on a better. So she's like, I got to be very specific next time. She's like, I want the cucumber and avocado roll. She was very clear.

And then she said, and the shrimp temporal roll. And my nephew ordered something. And then we, so the guy, first of all, he's just, now he comes out, and he's just slapping down the food, like he's working in a mill, right? And I'm like, what is this guy doing, right? And then he makes the classic mistake. He's bringing out all my nephew's food.

bring out all my food and my wife's just sitting there in hunger and I'm like dude I'm like I'm like you're doing it wrong here and then then he brings he brings the role and it's got the fucking lettuce in it so she's like no I said I should play she's like I said the avocado and the thing's like and he gives a face and walks away that's part one then he comes no he didn't even do the worst thing yet then he comes back and he comes back and we're like oh is it and very politely we're like is the shrimp tempura done he's like you didn't order that And I go, and my wife goes, yeah, I, I, I did. And I remember hearing it very clearly. And I go, yeah, she did. And he looks to me, he goes, no, she didn't. And I go, and I stood up and I never do this. I go, dude, I got to talk to the manager, man.

I can't fathom telling someone. I was like, I go, dude, I said, I've worked in, in the restaurant business for, like, before. And, like, it's just not how you talk to people. And I was very, I was calm. I was calm. And I'm like, and I'm like, this is not how you do it, brother. And I went in, and the manager is, and he,

yet so then he knew because he sent someone else with the bill and I and I talked to this other guy come about who I've seen before and this guy was awesome this guy was like he's like yeah they've had that he's had that he's had that can play with the mass and this and that and then I and he was the guy was I mean a bet beyond rude and like I said I tip 20 to 25% normal I made it a point I made the biggest fucking zero in the tip and almost like an arrow like this is what you did yeah and and I and I had no qualms about it like I said I never if someone's offensive he was such a different this guy was a cock Yeah, that's another thing. And the manager came out, and she was a sweetheart.

And I was like, look, and I told her, I said, I'm not looking for a discount. I'm not looking for a refund. I go, give me the bill that we ate. I said, I'm not looking for any of that. And because sometimes people will just complain about shit to get discounts. Yeah, people suck. I'm like, because even if she, because she was about to say something like, oh, why can I go?

I don't want, I don't want you to take anything to build. Which shows how bad it was. You literally just want to tell how bad your server is. I said, I want nothing. I said to her. I said, I want you to compliment the chef because the food was phenomenal like it always is. I'm like, this guy should not be representing your restaurant because this is not, I've been here for 12 years and that, and I had to tell, I had to say it because I was

like, it was, and my wife's like, you never, yeah, because I'm usually, if someone sends something back or something, I'm like, oh, I hate when people send shit back. I hate when people don't tip well, I hate it, but this guy was, you've worked in restaurants too, right? Dude. Long time. Oh, I pick. Yeah, that's right. But the other side. So they're on the other side, though. So I don't listen to you, But I forget past. I just forget 30s. It's all good,

you know, we got short term long term. But you see where you, but am I on the right here? No, 100%. Oh, 100%. Because it's one of those situations where...

That's a message. Yeah. Yeah. And again, I can't tip that guy. He told my wife. You can't lose money. He told my wife

she didn't order. What I clearly had, like, what he should have done, what I would have done at that point. Oh, I'm so sorry. I missed that. 100%.

That's the simplest. Or blame it on the kitchen. He doubled down. He doubled down and said, No, she didn't do you after her. And blame it on the kitchen. Because I'm not going to check with the kitchen. Because what you could also do.

I hate the adage at this point that the customer is always right because there's a lot of people that are twats. Yes. Yes. Of course. But considering what the power dynamic is of you are there to serve somebody, unless they say something rude or out of pocket to you, if your wife goes, where's the shrimp tempura, you either go, I miss it or, oh, man, I must not have a heart. heard that I'm so sorry or like you said blame it on the kitchen. That's it. Take that.

Take the onus on you. If you would have said to me, if he was like, oh, I'm sorry. I totally missed that. Then my normal thing, my wife would have probably because she was starving, but I can't believe they missed them. I'm like, that's all right. I didn't know. He didn't know.

And that's what I would have done. Yeah. But when he looked at me like and saying that, the double down. I'm like, you should have seen his face. He was like, he looks to me and he's just like, no, she didn't order it. I'm like, are you out of your mind? I hear this woman in my ear every day. I know when she's talking.

Guys, I hear what she's not talking. Guys, yeah. We have our HBO match show. We sell this to HBO Max about this fucking shit ass. This is a curb episode. Shit ass. You're asking me, and you have a special camey to say, hey, why is shit ass so bad? I wish I knew.

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I said it. I fucking said it first. It was my guy's my name. Dips. Fucking dips. That's right. It's yours. It's yours. Shit-ass tips.

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Christian might be the service. You need to be shit-ass. Because I think you would have too much fun doing it. You would have too much fun. Yeah, I would. And then I would come, yo. I would totally come to the manager. Are you the manager?

Are anyone dealing with shit ass? Like you're managing Christian at all times? And he was like, oh, shit ass did it again. Shitass did it again. It's like an 80s sitcom in my head where it's like, oh, shit ass. What the things you do? The things you take. Sometimes you have got to fake it, but not shit ass.

Hey, it's slow. Or hey, it's fast. It really doesn't matter. It's just shit ass. He comes around and he says, what do you want? And hey, my goodness, he's not, not going to get you your water. He's not going to get you enough. He's really shitty.

He's shit ass. Pull up your mask. Pull up your mask. Shit ass. You're really, really slow and you're really not fast. Your shit ass. Your shit ass. And why are you working at a suitor place?

I wish I do. Wish I knew. You were right there. There is. Oh my God. What happened? Shit ass just got knocked out. He needs some milk.

Oh, shit. It was the manager. You finally snap. That's the season finale. Shit ass. Season two is a lawsuit. I'm going to take a, I'm going to take a, courtroom with shit.

We should go there for a big thing lunch. Yeah, let's all go. We'll have an experience. We should go because she said, she goes, the manager said, next time you come in,

like, you know, ask for me or somebody else too because she's like, shit ass works every day. She's like, he works every day. Why does my question?

How is he not improved? Every day. It's my question. When is the cutoff point of you are not doing your job well, so you're gone? Yeah, that's my question.

When the guy told me, when the other guy, when I talked to, told me, like, we get complaints about them all the time. How does that guy? Why is he here seven days a week?

There's so many people that need jobs in Los Angeles. How is shit-ass employees? Seven days a week, he's there. You know what? Because all the good people, for the most part, except for the guy you were talking about in the manager, they've all kind of quit because they were tired of... Yeah, getting paid minimum wage and dealing with shit asses.

Shit ass is it good enough to... He looked at mid-40s balding, right? Like, he was probably 22 years old. But all that hate... He had a full main. He was... He was loving life, and then he just got, he just went to shit. Chris, he's like the Joker now.

Is this like a high-end restaurant? It's a nice restaurant. Okay. The only reason why I ask is, it's nice. Well, the only reason why I ask is it could go two ways. He's either like some 22-year-old, like you said, and he, and he honestly looks like a 40-year-old. And so I would be mad, like Corey would just said. Or he's a 40-something-year-old.

His dreams never came true, so he just became a shit-ass. He's been in life for 20 years, and it didn't work out, but he doesn't want to I want to leave. Yeah, that's rough. He's not, you know. Everybody knows those servers. Like, you know. Why do I humanize?

You just immediately. This is a James Gunn Show. This is what I was talking about. It's shit ass. This is what I was talking about. Christian was telling us, I'm not going to get into the details of it, but Christian was talking about I'm very good at reading people early on

and figuring out if they're going to be a problem or if they're going to be cool. And my ass is always trying to find the good and fucking everybody. When he walked in, I just said, I respect that. You got a problem in this tag. It said shit ass. I don't like him What's the breaking news So we got a new Marvel property

Which we have not had in a long time Get announced because it's been a while since D23 In that wave of announcements We are getting probably a show But maybe a movie It hasn't been confirmed Nova Now I mean right Nova's been teased since Guardians 1

Nova's a very big character in the comics He's a huge cosmic character So as Marvel goes more cosmic This is a really big deal He's like a space cop And I don't know if they're gonna go Sam Alexander. I don't know if they're going to go Ryder. I don't know which one of the novas they're going to do.

But I'm assuming this takes place after the events Guardians of the Galaxy because James Gunn has said over and over again, this is the last time you'll see this team. I'm wondering if they get marked. And if we see a Nova save one or two of them, I think we might introduce Nova there and then he gets a spin-off. That's what I would do. And I think we're going to get a Disney Plus show. One of the writers of Moon Knight is coming over to do it. You think that they're going to actually show Nova and Guardians 3? Yeah, I think so.

I think they had to announce this before the movie. Huh. Personally. I mean, I guess if you want to ramp up some hype, but I mean, that would have been a huge, like, kind of like, oh, shit. I'm wondering if they were worried about casting it and then, like, that getting out that way, so they put an announcement out. You know what I mean?

Like, I feel like Marvel at this point knows leaks are going to happen, so they're trying to get ahead of it. Sure. And I'm wondering if, like, they announced it out of nowhere. Like Moon Night conversation, suddenly we know and now it's Nova. Not a D-23, not a Comic-Con. So I'm wondering if we're about to find out a thing. That's why I'm assuming.

I mean, he can pop up him and Thor. You see, I know nothing about this character. So it's like, it's the same thing. I didn't know it. I don't know, like, I can, I know nothing about it. I'll, to, to, the power set is different, but think of it the same way, you're familiar with the Green Lantern Corps, right? Yeah.

Think of it the same way. Nova is a part of a bunch of space cops. Yeah. That, that helmet that he's specifically wearing gives him, like, abilities to, like, you know, fly super fast. Can you breathe through space with that thing on? Yeah. Read through space, shoot beams, all that kind of stuff.

The easiest way to just think of him. is he's a part of a galactic core of kinds. But is he goofy or is he fun? Depends on what generation you're looking at. Some of them, some of them they make him very goofy. Like if you go and look at a, what is it,

ultimate Spider-Man that they did on Disney X-D for a while, they made him like a giant goofball. You know, I think I think it's funny. It's not the fact that I'm allergic to fun anymore. It's the fact that it's the, it's the, it's a, no, it's, I don't know. I think I'm over goofiness in Marvel. I think I'm over it. And I think that's the benefit.

of having like 15 properties at once is you can go like hey this isn't for me i got i got moon night it is this isn't for me like you don't have to right and there i mean again i don't want to see too much about moon night it was reviews are coming out but there's there's definitely you definitely feel all say is this without a review is you definitely feel even though there's it's it's different there's still a bit of that marvel stuff that pops in here and there sure um which is why i think a lot of people like that you know i just think that i don't know maybe it's some i'm i it's weird that it's a pallet cleanser when you watch something like the Batman. Right.

It's weird because it's like that shouldn't be the palat. Even that one scene, like even the Joker scene we've talked about today, like that scene feels so unlike any other scene from a comic book movie. I like that we get that in our genres, right? And that's also why the difference is where DC can play that and the Marvel can play the other side of it and they kind of balance each other out. Star Wars doesn't really have that because it's the only game in town in that side of that's why I was so excited for Rogue One.

That's why I was so excited for, you know what I mean? But even Rogue One still had plenty of those familiarity. But I was hoping that would do well in a lot. to cause the, you know, a little bit of... It did well, though. It did really well. I'm sorry, I meant like, uh, spin-off wise. Like, I was hoping to get like more Rogue ones than we haven't since.

Well, I think, and or I think, obviously, from Rogue One is going to be that. I think that what I was talking about yesterday, I did, or two days, I did, Sith Council. And there was a question that was asked about, do I ever think there'll be a Darth Bane or a Darth Plagueis series or a Palpatine series or Vader series? I don't think that Disney has in this, I say this as nice as I can. I don't think they have the balls to lead with it. the villain, right? Because they get too scared that...

Of how dark it is. Leading with a bad guy in a Disney series... I disagree. Because you did these whole villain reimaginations for Disney properties. I think that that was them... That's them testing the waters. But they... But wait, wait, Melifacin was not a villain in her movies. She was a villain in the Disney stories. Right. They made her a good guy in the movies.

She was redeemed. I'm not talking about redeeming villains and making them good guys. They did in Boba Fett. Sure. Like, I'm talking about having a full-on Walter White, Tony Soprano. Yeah. Like, because that's what they thought. That's what you thought you were going to get, Bobafet.

Right. Bobafet, Bobafet walks in and Mandalorian at the end of Mandalorian season two and shoots Bibb Fortuna dead. And you're like, that's who we're getting. We didn't get that. We didn't get that. We got the, we got the, basically, we got. Okay. So I'm talking.

So the character is a villain. The portrayal is not. Well, the character has ceased to be a villain. As it started out as the villainous stuff that they had done. done in the past, and now then they've been redeemed. I'm talking about full-on evil. Darth Bain is a villain. And what's tricky is all characters think they're right.

All characters think they aren't making the right choice. The problem is showing it with perspective that it is a villainous act. And that's what I think Disney won't do. They won't do it. You know, like even Walter White, like he felt justified by the end, but he was still a villainous at the last season. He became one by the time you got there. And the stuff that he did throughout was villainous, right? And that's the type of stuff.

like Darth Bain, his story, like from, and I don't know how true it is, but there were rumors that they were working on at a time of Darth Bain's script and they scrapped it probably, I don't know if it was the same idea because he was a villain. If they adapt the Drew Carpecian novels, there's the story, do you guys know the story of Bain, Darth Bain at all? So, Darth Bain takes place in the novels that drew Carpecheon, they're not canon novels, but they, but the character is, and Yoda even brought them up in Clone Wars, and This is where I get to geek out on YouTube.

Yeah, man, I'm listening. So, Darth Bain, the Sith and the Jedi during the Old Republic, there were thousands and thousands of them. So the Sith army would battle the Jedi army, and they kept battling and fighting. And the Jedi would always win because the Sith would always crave each other's power, and they fought within. And they could never overcome the Jedi no matter how many,

thousands and thousands of years in the Republic. That's what they get down to the Rule of Two, right? Darth Bain in the novels, and then what he ultimately did, was that he created the rule of two and he killed all of the Sith with this kind of, he became very powerful in the force and he found a way this kind of thought bomb, this is the thing that they, I forget what it's called,

and he killed all of them. And he made sure that he created the rule of two and he found one person to train. He trained that apprentice, Darth Zana, and he trained her to be his apprentice and until one day she would get powerful enough where she would try to challenge him. And if she wasn't, then he would kill her.

If she was powerful enough, then she deserved to take the, throne, and then she would have to get her own apprentice. And that's what the rule of two and the Sith would continue to do. So every single time. And then eventually, through a thousand years, they got to Darth, they got to Darth, Plagas, who killed his master, took over. His master was going to train someone else. And he's not powerful. I'm wrong. I got to find someone else. Plagis was powerful enough, killed him. And then Plagas finds Chief Palpatine and trains Palpatine. And Palpatine then overtakes him. So that's over a thousand years or more so in the old

Republic leading up to it. But, like, yeah, if you had, like, a Darth Bain series, dude, like, it's like Rome. Obviously, Vader died. Yeah. But, like, fam, what if all that really was wasn't redemption, but just him now taking over the damn city? When he died. At the end of return of Jedi when he throws the emperor into the, I mean, I guess

technically he lives through the Skywalker, so I got, let's not talk about that. No, I know what I'm saying? All of a sudden, he was like, I should just murder him so I can become. I'm the guy. Yeah. Well, because I'm the captain now. Yeah. If he tossed him.

Well, that's what. he tries to do an empire. And he says to him, he's trying to recruit Luke to overturn the palatine. He's like, join me. But isn't that out of the, isn't that out of order? Don't you murder your master first and then get an apprentice? Not necessarily. No, you can, he's like, you can, you just, you overtake him and you plot to kill him, Duke who tried to do the same thing. And are they, that's, they try to overtake each other. And I think that if you do that, the, and that's why I'm so curious about the acolyte. Because the acolyte is supposed to be very Sith-based and it takes place in the High Republic, which is right before Phantom Menace.

And I think it's like between 30 and 50 years right before, something like that. And the question is going to be, the acolyte is the Sith kind of hiding out during that time when they haven't been shown in the Jedi, I don't know that they're there. Because during the High Republic, there's tons of Jedi running around. And so that acolyte, is it this new character? Or does it ultimately become Darth Plague's leading into, you know, finding Palpatine? Which would be interesting. See, I want all of these things that don't involve a Skywalker.

Right. I'm very excited to, and that's why I was, I personally was bummed about Boba because I was really excited to see new things and then it re-tread things and then it just kind of fell off for me. And then it came back, I like the end. But I really would love if I feel that Star Wars like pull again because hearing those laser sounds and hearing a lightsaber, all that gives me such a chill and such a warmth. But between the fandom being vocal and violent and the movies feeling just like they're repeating themselves, I want to love something. Star Wars as much as I used to. And I really hope all these things can come to light so I can feel it. See, I like the stuff that they did in Mandalorans.

Oh, the Mandalorans great. Yeah, because no notes. You didn't like the Skywalker stuff in Boba? It just felt like an excuse, you know? But see, the only reason I liked it, I mean, I can understand if you're just trying to watch a Boba Fett series and people who complained about it. But the reason why I think it works for that it's the time period and the side, plus the fact that they were very vocal beforehand saying that this is really kind of like a

Mando 2.5. If they'd call it that, I wouldn't have minded it. But in the fact that they did, yeah, I get it. I understand that. Because I guess that's the messed up part about it. If you tell me, if you tell me, okay, we're doing Wanda Vision. But as a heads up, this is actually Dr. Strange 1.5. They literally removed.

Do you do Dr. Strange 1.5 as a TV show? And they literally took him out of the show. Do you know that? Like they, so like, because they wanted to have her own agency. And then on the other way, they did a Boba, they're like, but what if? Well, they made a classic era with the Boba Fett series for this because what I think ultimately happened there, John Fevere wanted to do a Boba Fett show from the get. And then they told him, well, he's not really a Mandalorian.

He's not, so we can create the Southern Mandalorian, we can do this. And they ultimately made Din Darjin the BobaFet that we always knew and loved. Like if you look at the way Din acts from the beginning, and even how he's both. He's BobaFet. And he's that cool, kick-ass motherfucker that comes in and just does what he's supposed to do. But then you take the mask off of Boba-Fet, you've got to make it a different character. And it's like, what do we do with Bobafet? Are we going to make him exactly the same?

Because he's pretty badass in Mandalorian when he comes in. And I think they could have kept him honestly the same way. I would have been okay if they had similarities. And he had more of this past. And they never went back and played off. They kept teasing the thing with him holding his father's helmet. Right. But then everyone went back and didn't.

They just dropped Bobafet completely because they didn't know what to do with him. The redeeming story was it just didn't work in my opinion. I agree with you. And I think it's one of those situations where you could have had a scenario where, because what we got from Din as the Mandalorian is he really is more neutral and almost on the side of good in that regard, whereas Boba has always had that edge and it's more on the side of evil,

you could have had it where they maybe are able to work together, but they don't see eye to eye. It's like Venom and Spider-Man. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Really make Boba Fett an anti-hero in that regard, but she didn't. You just kind of said, ah, he's good now. I would have liked Venom Boba Fett.

Well, here's what we do. We talked a lot. We did. We talked about the Joker, but strangely enough, shit-ass became the biggest villain. That's the headliner. Good luck of the graphics. I don't know what the graphic of the show is going to be.

So good ass. Christians at the sushi place. That's right. Next time I go, I'm going to take a picture of shit ass. He's the cover, man. Yeah. Oh, God.

What if he's like a $100 patron? We didn't even realize it. He's like, I don't want him. I don't want him. And that's the only time I say stiffing's okay when it's that level of hate. When you don't want someone's patronage. Because my,

and again, we can get the hell out of here in a second. My point was it wasn't a matter of just stiffing him. It was like I said, I tipped in your 20, 25% every time, no matter how good or something. It was the idea of, it was the idea of,

You did everything possibly wrong that you could have done. You did it. Yeah. And you didn't care. Like that's a difference. So they're not going to the job. Anyway, all right, listen, that's the shit-ass show. This is Troy, Swinson.

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