The Kristian Harloff Show - Should we have more faith in James Gunn's DCU? Judging too soon?

Episode Date: September 29, 2023

PATREON: Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow DCU is coming out next year with Superman. James Gunn has been making some announcements on who will remain in the universe and some have been confused. Others say have faith. Are we judging the DCU too soon or is it too messy? Speaking of Superman, new photos of David Corenswet has apparently bulked up already to play the Man of Steel. Angelina Jolie hasn't been a movie since Eternals, she explains why. Wakanda Forever is animated series now? This and more with Kristian Harloff and Winston A. Marshall on The Big Thing Capes and Cowls! #dc #DCU #MCU #Marvel #superman #casting #movies #tv #wakandaforever  

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back. It's Friday. It's a big thing. It's capes and cows. And good news, bad news. I'm going to start with the bad news. Bad news is that Coy John Joe already.

Writer strikes over. He's like, yay. Now he's out celebrating in Vegas. I don't know where he is, but he's not here. The good news, Winston A. Marshall's with me. So we've got two out of the three out of the trio for capes and cows. But we're back. And we're excited to be back.

So Winston and I will talk about a few things going to be. down. Obviously, the James Gunn stuff, I guess just in general, of what is the DCU? Are we judging it too fast? Are we, even my show yesterday? So this is confusing. People are like, it's not confusing.

You haven't seen anything yet. Is it too confusing? Is there a plan? Are we judging too fast? We'll talk about that. Speaking of DC, there's already Cornswet, David Corrinsoot's walking around, jacked out of his face already.

And everybody's saying, oh, there he is. There's Superman. Ryan Coogler, looks like, he's going to have a animated series. And then there's a few other, there's a few other stories. There's the Angelina Jolie. They asked her about since she was on Eternal, she hadn't done nothing. Why?

Let's talk about that. And nonetheless, it's myself, it's Winston. It's capes and cows. And if you haven't already done it, everybody, we're rapidly approaching. We should be in 95K very, very soon within a couple days. I'm hoping that you guys will get us to 100K. October is my birthday month. And I'm hoping that.

By the end of this month, of October, rather, we hit that 100K. That's the goal. All right. So let's get to it. It's myself. It's Winston A. Marshall. It's capes and cows. Let's get started.

What's going on, everybody? Welcome back. Apple podcast, Spotify, wherever you're listening or watching on the YouTube. It's me, Christian Harlow. Winston A. Marshall. Your birthday's next month? Like, I remember going to your birthday party last year. It was October?

Has time moved that fast? I can't believe that it's gone that fast. That's pretty nuts. That's pretty nuts. Until you said that just now, like it did feel like we all went to like an Italian restaurant. It feels like it was literally a couple months ago. It didn't.

You're not wrong. You're not wrong. It's funny. Like there are certain moments that if you look back, there's a moment I always remember. Like there's certain moments in your life that if you think about that moment, it feels like it was yesterday. And there's other moments that you think about that maybe we're even sooner

it seemed like it was forever ago. It's weird how that works because I was, I was dating this girl back in college. And we're watching, I don't know, it's like when Jerry Springer was hot. That's a throwback. And he, and there was something along the lines. I think they were asking questions. New York accents are they sexy or make you sound stupid is what it was.

She left. She thought it was the funniest thing ever. And she brought it up, she started cracking up. And every time I think of that moment, I can recall it like it was yesterday. And it was probably 20 plus years ago. Wow. Yeah. No, I feel you.

I, I, I've been. What, I'm doing my therapist. And so, like, you know, part of that is, same thing. You have to, like, dive deep sometimes into stuff. I have, like, that one traumatic school moment that, like, I could feel like, oh, that happened yesterday. Right. That was, that was, you know, but I don't remember what I ate this morning.

It's, it's weird how that works. It really is. It's like, do you have, maybe I'm the only person this happens to. I don't know. He's like, so does water, like, when you're running the sink or does it ever bring back, like, memories? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Absolutely. That's, first of all, I, I do my best thing. in the showers. No, I remember you saying that. Yeah, yeah. So that, anytime, it can do that for me. But what I mean specifically is. You mean like you're doing dishes and the water's just going.

Every time I turn the water on in, when I'm running a bath for my youngest, or if I'm doing dishes. Yeah, yeah. It varies as far as what period of time. But like, but for right, every time I turn on the damn bath, a particular moment in like where I worked or anything to and particular characters in my life at that point, pop into my head every time I turn the fossil on. I get it. I get it. I mean, look,

anytime I hear the kitchen sink turn on, I immediately go into a cold, flop-swept panic that I didn't do the dishes last night. My mom was going to come in here and beat my ass after she's done doing the dishes. But that's a particular moment. That's particular trauma.

You asked if it triggers memories. No, no, no. It's true, true. It's just like, for some, it's kind of like a weird, I don't know, it's like a time, weird time travel thing for me. It's like, I get it. There's been, like, yeah. It's a different show. Different show.

We're talking about on the Tuesday show. It's totally fine. I mean, when you guys invite me to the Tuesday show, I'm only able to talk about comic books, apparently. Did you watch that documentary yet? I watched three of the five. Okay. When you watch all five, we'll get you on the show. God damn.

There's a new one on, by the way. There's a new documentary on Netflix before we get into this. And it's called Encounters. It's produced by Amblin, obviously Spielberg's company, boardwalk pictures, my buddy, Andrew Fried, who you guys have seen on the show. vice and they all produce this series it's a four-part series about a lot of the stuff a lot of the encounters we've talked about on the show but there's another one in japan that i hadn't seen and and the director um is going to be on this tuesday on the show i'm going to sit down with him

and have a conversation with him so that's for tuesday if you guys are watching encounters if you haven't watched you should watch it before next tuesday uh but that's not we're talking about in this show this is the comic book movies and we're back we've been on hiatus we have and i you know I got to give you some props. Nice. This is something you've been doing for a minute now, but I remember, you want to talk about memories. I remember being like, you should look at the stream deck.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you just, you rock that thing like at second nature at this point. Well, it's like a DJ. That it really is. And now you're getting to live out the fantasy of being a DJ. Well, I could say, it's funny to where you just like, you have that, the switching side of it. What sucks about it is that I actually had somebody reach out to me recently was like

looking for, okay, someone who I really, really like. And I was like, okay, I would love to have this person come in and be able to, like, switch and do some stuff and all these different things. But right now, with all the cash shit and everything that went down, I just can't do it. But the other thing that I was thinking I was too is like, because I'm so used to doing this now. You don't even necessarily want to pay anybody. It's not that. Do I want to give up control of it? Because now I know when I want to switch.

I know when I know like, and if somebody, I know that that would go away real fast. And I'm like, oh, because I wouldn't know what to do it myself now. Because now I'm like, because I've just been doing this for now two years. Yeah. You, I mean, I'll be honest. You've always been an engaged, like, interviewer and like, and podcast hosts, radio host, whatever you want call it. But there is definitely a different energy about you manning the show and being in the show. Right.

Than you just being in the show. Right. Because it's just, it's because I know what I want. I know what I want it to look like. And it's like we have, now we're going to have this set. available for some other stuff too. And hopefully, as you and I were just talking about before, with the strike, one strike being over,

the second strike should be over, which we'll talk about in just a moment, soon. And I mean, I feel, then I wonder if you feel the same way. For us, as far as our business goes, the floodgates are going to, like, open up. Oh, I mean, I guarantee you that, like, because that's the whole thing.

The stoppage, so for the writer's strike, for those that are out of the loop, the writers have already been authorized to begin working again. Even though they haven't ratified it yet, the board feels so confidently about the deals that were worked out. They have given the green light, the strike ended at 1201 into Wednesday, I believe it was. So for example, you know, we were talking about way back right when we kind of went dark, that gun had turned in his legacy, like, first draft. I guarantee you he's already working on it again. So they still got to put a cabash on my

casting stuff like actors can't go in things like that but if he already needs to start making that second draft he's on it and so is every single writer that had anything that was kind of open new deals need to be renegotiated sure but people are working that's a question no when it comes to that the thing with gun right because it's different it's different for gun as opposed to like if someone hires you to write let's say let's say gun hired you to write superman sure and you're going i'm not writing until the strikes over he runs the studio right you don't think he was writing stuff in his bathroom. Like, you know what you don't think, you know, you don't think when no one was around,

he was right and stuff. I mean, he's never going to tell you that, nor should he, but you know what I mean? He can never admit it. Never. He can never admit it. And I, and I guarantee you that anybody that had something kind of running, they were probably jotting down notes, but they were doing no actual work. Like official stuff.

Because, like, if you're like, well, you know what, I'm, I can do this. I'm not going to turn anything in. I'm not going to do anything. I'm not, but like, for me, because let's say, let's say some of the writer. And again, they'll never admit to it, nor should they. No. But if a writer was like, okay, I'm going to be out on that picket line, I'm going to be every day.

But what I do want to do is when we come back, I'm going to come back with a solid, solid drive. And they have it ready to go. So here's the thing. Anything that wasn't already being worked on was allowed to be worked on. So if you had that passion project, you're like, I've been trying to write my post-apocalyptic film. No studio owns it.

Nobody's working on it. You can write your ass off that. So they were totally fine doing that. It was that if you were high, to write Fantastic Four for Disney, you are not writing crap while the strike was happening. And so,

and I think it's just a little different with gun because he runs the thing too. But yes, you would never admit that and it would be very stupid for him to do so. Of course he would never, he would never admit it, but also the same thing, you don't think he was thinking about it?

Of course you were. It's impossible that it's kind of like that whole idea of, you know, you go on a diet, you're always thinking about donuts. You know what I mean? But you just,

the point is while you're on the diet, you don't. Touched them. See, I want to pizza, but I understand what you're saying. It could have been pizza. You could have been thinking about, you could have been thinking about, yo, and when I get off this diet, I'm going to take that pepperoni dough. And I'm a tripling.

I'm going to New York in October. I've no idea. I've been, I showed you. I've just been going over, like, the one-by-pita review. I just want to go through it. That one-video you showed me was ridiculous. It was hilarious. You just haven't seen.

Just look up one-by- pizza craziest review or funniest review. It is insane. The amount of stuff that happens within two minutes. You were, you were, that video was perfect proof why I will visit New York, but I will never live in New York. I have to have a job that needs me to live there for me to live in New York. But that's, that's the height of, that's like Manhattan. All right, let's, speaking of James Gunn, let's, let's talk a little bit about this. We touched on this yesterday with Brett and I, but let's call it what is.

Brett don't know shit about that kind of stuff, but I love having them on and it was still fun to talk about. However, there's, the first thing that we're going to talk about here is this is from Comic movie and they had an interesting article out and here's what the article said. They're asking, do you think DC Studios, DCU, reboot plans? They actually make sense. And it's kind of the title of this video, right? It's like, are we judging too fast? There's once a great deal of confusion surrounding Winter Brothers and DC Studios plans to reboot the DCU. So we want you to chime in and let us know whether you think this approach makes sense. Josh Wilding writes James Gunn's role in the superhero movie genre has done nothing but produced great results. The Guardians of the Galaxy

trilogy is destined to be remembered as a classic while the Suicide Squad and Peacemaker are both up there with one room and as DCEU's best offerings. Now, the filmmaker has taken on the role of executive as DC studios alongside co-CEO Peter Safran. As a creative driving force of the new DCU, it seems fair to say the franchise is in its safe hands with the Superman legacy director. Unfortunately, since that exciting chapter one, gods and monster slate was announced back in January, the reboot plans have become confusing. The vast majority of characters will be recast, but a handful are set to return. So while Batman, Superman, will be completely different, Peacemaker, and Amanda Waller will not end Wonder Woman well, we still don't know what's happening.

The Flash was supposed to reset the DCEU, but it really left Barry Allen stranded in reality where George Clooney is Batman. Blue Beetle was neither a DCEU or a DCU movie, but that iteration of the character is going to be part of the latter franchise. As far as we're aware, there's no explanation for why the DC universe is being rebooted and for regular moviegoers, the risk is this slate will on the surface look more of the same. That's an issue DC studios will need to figure out, but Gunn's recent attempts to clear up the confusion have only further muddy the waters. On the surface, the DCU keeps certain actors and referencing key moments from the past while telling new stories isn't a hard idea to grasp. However, it's an approach which still has led to a lot

of head scratching. Hardcore comic book fans might get it, but will your mom or your brother be able to decipher the fact that while the events of Peacemaker took place, the Justice League, the title character encountered in the finale is no more with this in mind. We're curious to hear whether the comic book movie readers are going to struggle. There's a poll that they left here, and I'll link it in the description. Let's see, because this all comes from Winston. The other day, James Gunn was confirmed again on Twitter, as he loves to do, that Amanda Waller, Peacemaker, and Blue Beetle are going to continue into the DCU. What I had said yesterday, I'm curious if you feel the same, to me, as much as I love all three of them, in all three of the roles, I think only one of them should actually make a return into the DCU.

And that's Blue Beetle. The reason is because of what they said in this article. When you watch that movie, you wouldn't be able to tell that it has anything to do with the DCU at all. I mean, yeah, they mentioned Batman. And if they did it's so over your head, you don't really pick it up at all. Peacemaker is very much associated with the old DCEU. Amanda Waller is very much associated with it.

And it is exactly what they said. It is too confusing to the average everyday movie going. The only one that I would actually say, I'll give you Blue Beetle. Between the three of them, John Cena has crushed, but I think he would be right for replacing. The only reason why I would give you Viola Davis's Waller

is just by the lore of who Waller is and how she operates. There's this weird thing where Waller just feels like Waller in everything. You instantly are like, that's the exact same crazed-ass woman that's like got things on lock. So I would buy, she's the only one. But the two of them, it's still, how do you explain, they've been, how do you get away from the confusion of the fact that they've been associated with,

other past products inside of that old can. But here's the thing. And I think this is where we have to just be chill until we actually see what happens. We understand how comic books work. There's nothing to say that Waller and Peacemaker don't end up through some sort of portal and they end up on this new earth that we're following now in the DCU.

There's nothing that says that that couldn't be some sort of situation, which then still leaves the door open for anything else if you want to tap into it later. But I think essentially what has been said and what has been implied with this reboot is the idea of we have kind of like, this is the sunset on the DCEU, but it's still open.

From the simple fact that you even had, Barry kind of talking to Aquaman being like, yeah, man, every universe, you're the same dude. You're exactly the same. Everybody else is a little different, but you're the same. You've left this door open that if we need to dive back into that, which there's no way you don't.

But not enough people saw that movie. Which is fine. Which is, I understand. But regardless of that, if you're saying you want to connect the dots, that's fine. They're there to go connect them if you want to. I think you, me, Koi, people who are watching this show, people who understand the comic

but as you said, we know comic movies. We do. But it's like you're trying to get this thing to a place where everybody does, right? And Multiverse didn't start playing into MCU until phase four and five. after they've established all these different things, and that still has been too confusing for them as well. So I don't know, the poll results, though, are interesting.

They ask, the poll asked, do you think DC studios, DCU reboot plans actually make sense? And the three options are, no, I'm beyond confused. I need more time and they need to reveal more details. Yes, I understand what they're doing. Now, at first glance, I would guess that the, I need more time and they need to reveal more details to be the winner. It's not.

No, I am beyond confused, is the winner right now? And again, there's about 196 votes on that. There's about 133 votes on I Need More Time. And then there's 22% that say, I understand what they're doing. Now, granted, I mean, however many that is, it's something like 400, a little over 400 votes. Yeah. But, you know, it's, to me, I'm confused,

but not in the way that I'm like, I'm confused and I don't think they know what they're doing. I'm confused, and I trust that I think they know what they're doing. sure. But I don't know what it is yet. I'll be honest with you. I think the thing that is working hard against gun and it's both makes sense because he's always been someone that's been on social media like that. And I think it got further pushed up when you see how Zazlov has handled things since he came into power. There's this we see where there's something lacking.

So that allows us to kind of be out there. But I think that's ultimately the problem. I think stop talking to us. Honestly, just go do it. And then when we actually get ready to release stuff, then start... Yeah, stop confirming stuff. Because it feels like, I'm sure he genuinely has an overall plan, but in the same way that you break story in like a writer's room and stuff like that, you have your general scope of we're going to go to A to Z, right?

And then as time goes on, you start developing B and Y, and then C and X. And you know what I'm saying? And it starts to unfold. I think the problem is he's essentially, it feels like giving us information as he's like, Today I discover D and W. And it's like, chill. Don't say anything. And if someone asked you a question, you don't have to answer it.

I am really impressed that I was doing the alphabet backwards, by the way. I am shocked at myself that I got all the way to W. Once I was done with Y, I got scared. It's like somebody tapped into some alien language. No, but you know, it's funny because he, yeah, he answers a lot of things for sure. He talks a little bit too much, I think, you know, where you don't, you know, don't need to do that. You just don't need to, but he was talking about in general, right? This is from Dark Horizons. And back in January, Warner Brothers Discovery announced its DC

Studio Slate that would kick off with the animated Creature Commando series and begin with James Gunn's Superman Legacy live action film. There's been confusion. It seems that rather making a clean break and ignoring everything that came before, including this year's four DC films, DC Studios, James Gunn, and Peter Safran are set to bring back some of the talent. This has led to mixed messaging about what is and isn't canon in this universe. Is it like Judy Dench in the Bond franchise where her M character in the Daniel Craig films is entirely different from her M of the Pierce-Bronzen ones?

Or is it more a multiverse style a lait J.K. Simmons, J. Jonah Jameson, Jameson, appearance in the Spider-Man movies. There's also been confusion about exactly who's coming back, not helped by the online speculation by Gunn himself, who took to the threads to clear up that confusion. And he said, nothing is canon until Creature Commandos next year. of... Patateef.

Thank you. To the DCU and then a deeper dive into the universe with Superman legacy after that. It's a very human drive to want to understand

everything all the time, but I think it's okay to be confused on what's happening in the DCU since no one has seen anything from the DCU yet. And yes,

some actors will be playing characters again that they've played in other stories and some plot points might be consistent with plot points from dozens of films.

That's what's... That is what is a bad move, if that's the case. If I read that right. Let me read that again. Some actors... So let me read that again. And yes, some actors

will be playing characters they played in other stories, okay, so Amanda Waller, Peacemaker, wherever, and some plot points might be consistent with plot points from the dozens of films. Shows and that have come in the past. That, okay, the reason why that makes sense, honestly, the only reason

why that makes sense is you got to think about it this way. How many iterations of Batman have we seen, and some things have remained the same? His parents were killed in Crime Alley, whether it was the Joker or Joe Chill. If that, you know what I mean? But that's, that's comic book lore. If he's saying in general, like, comic book lore

stays the same, then sure. I mean, that's comic book lore. But if there's a reference to something that happened in Man of Steel, then it's like, it's like, what? I hear you. The only reason why I still would let that slide is because there is various forms of comic book lore that are still like

point proof. So think about Spider-Man, for example. You had just the regular, he's got Uncle Ben and Aunt May. Uncle Ben dies, Spider-Man, whatever. Then you had the amazing Spider-Man where his parents were actually super secret spies, which is a thing that has happened

in the comics before about that, and that's where the whole thing came up. And then you just have this Tom Holland one that we never really saw his origin. We just kind of accepted it. Instead of Uncle Ben dying, you would assume he's dead, but it's Aunt May that we end up seeing dying at the end of no way home. I guess, spoiler alert for a two-year-old movie.

So, all that being said, there are things similar to across the Spider-verse when they talk about a canon event, it kind of feels like that a little bit. So there are things about Waller that will remain the same. She's running Task Force X, whether or not she's worked with, you know, a dead shot versus a sportsmaster versus, you know, or Bloodsport.

That's kind of what he's alluding to. And it's almost like if you want to kind of see what that's about, then go check out the Suicide Squad and you can kind of see. That's what it really is, though. I'll tell you. I mean, as much, like, I guarantee you. I love the Suicide Squad. I love it. Yeah. And I love Peacemaker. Yeah. And so does he. So for him, he does, he wants a continue season to a peacemaker. So he makes it canon again. And he wants, why wouldn't you? He wants Viola Davis back.

He's got Viola Davis on a contract. She's a fantastic actress. And, but there are some sacrifices that you got to make in order to do to not get, because these are confusing articles that don't need to be. And he's doing it. And he's also doing it because he likes because he's very good to his friends. He is. Look, man, I'll tell you this much. If he ends up having a, what we're assuming is about to happen with Deadpool 3 as like a cleanup, clean all of everything to kind of explain stuff away, then we'll be fine. And I think, honestly, we got to get to the DCU starting before we truly get out there. I think we can all agree in the same way that if you're looking at, no people hate it sometimes we start talking sports, if you look at teams during the preseason and you're like, what was that move? Why would you sign that person?

Why are you running that scheme? But then if the season starts and you're like, whoa, this team is really good. It's the same thing. If you end up in a situation where it's like, why would you keep that actor? Why are you continuing that pop point? But it's about the plays that are called, right? But if week one comes. And the structure inside of the plan is working and people are winning games.

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And I will say this, and props to everyone on this show. And I mean, everyone, they were like, we'll just do it. Like, you know, we trust you. Just keep, let's get back on track. and we'll do it. And this is why I surround myself with people I want to do shows with. So the way that it works for,

because people ask this question all the time, it's like when you get, because it's different, and I'm learning this as I'm working on other sides of the business, if you get like a sponsorship deal from somebody on the YouTube channel, there's different types of sponsorships.

And there's one sponsorship that'll come up and they'll go, okay. So-and-so wants you to talk about this on a YouTube video, and you do that, you go, great, thank you, here's our, here's a plot point. Let me see the ad at, great, you like what we're doing, cool, and that's it.

Podcasting is different. It's different as far as the revenue and different as far as the, what people rightfully so require. If a company like AG1 and Rocket Money come in, they, A, want to make sure that I like what it is, because I can talk about it in the way that I love it. And you know, you know, I talk about it off air, how much I love them, but a lot. A lot. But the thing is also what it does is that, you know, it's not just, they're not just paying for the spots themselves. We want them to come back.

We would be in order for us to keep doing it. So that's why I tell people that if they are interested in it to click the link, and that's how you support. And that's how it is the more, when they re-up, I've had a conversation with the ad agency not too long ago. Then we go, yeah, it's always about renewals. Renewals is that's, it doesn't matter if you're a smaller show or a bigger show.

The bigger show doesn't get renewals and the smaller show does. The smaller show is the show that, like, will continue to get more sponsors because the audience wants to support the audience is getting the product. So there's a little kind of a breakdown one-on-one for the business side of things more than anything else. So if you want to, you're able to, you want to support and you like what we're talking about here. Check out Rocket Money or Agee 1. Because I also think it's one of those situations.

Obviously, if you can just straight donate to support, that's always great. Like, you know what I mean? Like there's nothing wrong with that. But specifically... Get something for yourself. If you can get something. That's literally when I was like, if I could give Christian $5 or if I can give $5 to Rocket money and then Christian going to get some money anyway, I'm going to go get this product and I'm going to help the dude out.

You know what I'm saying? Get a T-shirt, whatever. There you go. But anyway, that's how it works. It was more of like a breakdown because people are always curious and we always want to be very up front with people. All right. Let's get to the next topic. David Corrin Sweat, he's playing Superman.

He's spotted looking jacked as update on shooting start is revealed. Superman legacy star David Coritzweat has been spotted looking jacked as the sagged after strike continues to suggesting he's ready to suit up when production begins. We also have an update from James Gunn. When the news broke that David Cornswit would play the man of steel in Superman Legacy, it took no time at all for people to dig up old, unflattering photos of the actor and offer to suggest he simply isn't swole enough to play the character. Nonsense, of course, as he has plenty of time to train,

and despite the strikes, it looks like our future Clark Kent has been doing that. Some photos shared by justjarid.com. Show Cornswit looking buff and bearded, prompted many fans to point out how much the 30-year-old looks like Henry Cavill. The strike is over for WGA, and Sagastra is now expected to follow. Original plans for Superman Legacy to begin shooting next January. But, according to Variety, Spring seems more likely. Responding to a fan on threads, James Gunn also shared an update on where things stand with the movie.

I couldn't write during the strike. Meaning working on designs of StoryWords. As far as the rest of the DCU, he added, I don't even know where we are with everything. as I haven't been able to talk to our writers while this has been happening. Although I'm very happy with the outcome. The strike was a real wrench in the process for sure, so I'll have to see where we are and everything for the next couple of weeks, but I'd imagine more news in the not too distant future.

Gunn continued to work on Superman legacy bodes well for it being released as a planned of a couple of years for now and surely won't be long until Cornswit starts filming. According to the latest updates, the strike could conclude as soon as next week, so they might be around the corner. So this is the picture of Corrin Sweat here. That looks jaggy, just looks like you got ass. I mean, his arms look pretty big. I guess he's got him covered in a jacket.

Is that the only picture? No, I think that's the only picture. Okay. I guess he just looks like a regular ass dude. Like, what are we talking about? I mean, he looks bigger than he did. Winston's not wrong. He's got this show.

He looks like he looks like he can play bubble boy. Dude, he looks bigger. He looks like he looks like he could play, what was it? Bubble Boy, Balloon Boy, the, what, from the league of, of superheroes. He just got ass. Look, good on the squats. He looks big, though. You got to remember, though, too, dude. If you saw that, I see, I'm going to push back

a little bit on you. You can. This dude is 6'4. If you saw that guy at 6'4, he looks pretty big. I mean, he got chicken legs up. I guess it's a problem. When I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when I, when when I, when I, when I, when people are, when people are out here saying, yo, he looking swole. I'm like, give me a photo then, then fine. Just show me one with him

in just the t-shirt. That jacket is covering a lot of stuff up. And, you know, his arms are bigger. Look, I haven't been, that photo right there, his one arm looks kind of big where he's, what is he doing? Is he got a meter? I don't know. He's got to pick the meter up, put it over his head. But either way, man.

Yeah, this is, this is again, rightfully so. I understand. It's kind of a non-story in one side of it because they got nothing to talk about right now, which kind of, I guess, brings me to my next question as we were talking earlier about the writer strike being over and this hints at it that the sag strike is rumored to be over in the next couple of weeks, right? What do you think? Well, I mean, look, I can tell you as much that we, well, let's see, let's see, because they did

because the problem that a lot of us have been told has just that is that you got to be careful about listening to the news as far as the studios. It's run by a lot of the studios. So they're kind of putting out. M-QM-T-F-P-R-S-B-X-Y-Z-Y-W. Pick a new name. X, damn. Stupid.

That is dumb. You know they made another conglomerate, right, for just the streaming services. That's a whole other story. Yeah, you know, before, tell me what you're going to tell me about this. I do want to go over a little bit about it, because you know very well on a lot of the writers' deal and what they got. So we haven't really talked about that too much on this show yet. I don't want to talk about that.

But let's talk about what you're talking about with three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just, we were notified at SAG that they are working. towards getting back to the table so that we that look to early next week to hear about how that is going. So, you know, that's the only thing is because they had already, there were already reports being like, sag and AMPTP are sitting down on Wednesday. And it's like, no, they're, like, you know, they said look to next week and we'll give you more as we get it.

And so the biggest thing that I would say to do, same thing that the WGA was saying, because all of last week, the news was like, a deal will be reached tomorrow. And every WGA person was like, unless you. hear the WGA say that this is happening, a lot of this is more propaganda. But what they did say, and it wasn't necessarily propaganda, though, they were right in the fact, it was, they were

jumping the gun about how when it was going to get done. They were in the vicinity. They were in the neighborhood. They were, and based off of what I was hearing, it was one of those situations where it's like, we are moving ground, but to say we're done was a gross overstatement, and I guarantee you it was

done by the studios, both A, for more propaganda stuff, and B, if you need your shareholders to calm down, the fastest thing to do is say, we've almost got this wrapped up. But what they did successfully, though, is they got the word spread out there with every show. This thing's almost over now.

This thing's almost over now. So by doing that, they did put into, they were so confident in the fact that the deal was going to be made that they put it out there and it could have backfired in their face, but I think that it was a move to them that actually worked out. Well, I'll tell you, part of the reason why they were probably saying this

and this has then been a lot of the conversation with now that the WGA strike is over, is, they did not concede 100% of the stuff that the WGA wanted, but something in every category did happen. And a lot of stuff was pretty damn close to what was being asked, which also then goes to show the studios had it the whole time, you shot yourself in the foot. Well, they did, again, we all know for the first three months, there's no world where they were going to get that done in the first three months.

There's no world because they wanted to, wanted to strike, they wanted to cut budget. And they would have saved money if they would have done the three months and then done the deal. Immediately. Just do it as soon. Like, you hate to hear the idea that someone is like playing a game with people's livelihoods and stuff like that because that's nonsense. But if you want to just go on the pure neutral side of this, the cost of doing business, if you knew you had to cut bait somewhere. And so then that's fine. and you're going to do that for a couple of months.

But then to continue to go and to say the egregious things that were said, it was like, you've just gone too far. Yeah, well, they didn't count on the result. No. They didn't at all. So the sag strike, to me, I think, is going to, I'm, I guess I'm in the same neighborhood. What I would say, and you tell me if you think you're right or wrong, I think that they'll get back to the table next week, for sure.

I think a deal will be made around mid-October, maybe towards the second of last week in October, and I think everybody would be back to work by November 1st. I would certainly hope so. I would hope so, and I guarantee you part of the reason why the studios are pushing is because truthfully, they're kind of running out of stuff. There's plenty of things that are constantly in the pipeline,

being edited in post-production, etc., etc. But as far as, like, your key moneymakers, you're now running on things that were supposed to be auxiliary. Yeah. They were not supposed to be your star attractions, and so you have to get back to work. Rezlov does not want to not promote Wonka without Shalame, and he does not want to promote Aquaman without Memoa,

and Disney does not want to promote the Marvels without all three of those actions. And you've already pushed Dune back, and you've already pushed all this other stuff. People are now, like, there was already everything beyond the Spider-Verse. Like, every single studio has something to lose if they do not get this ball rolling before the end of the year. They will. Because the holiday shuts Hollywood down regardless.

Regardless. But that's what I was saying, though. This was all calculated as well, too. They knew that it was going to end by November because it's not a coincidence when you look at Dune. They moved June. Dune was October. They moved Dune out of the way. They knew they weren't going to get it done in October.

They just knew it. And then once Zazlov started talking everybody to, and they had all the conversations and all the studio heads of it. And once the writers, they know they're going to be able to, like, we'll have this done by October, November. Everybody will promote their movies, awards season, all that stuff. to push a couple of things, but I think so. But as far as what, tell me a little bit about for those people who don't know, what are some of the major points of what

the writers were able to achieve. Yeah, I mean, I would definitely suggest that anybody that's really curious about this, WG has made a site that specifically lays out all the points, but some of the major ones is that there is no one of the main things we're fighting for

was against AI. Yeah. And this idea that studios would just hire Christian, Christian, give me an idea, and let AI do everything else, and then you're getting paid minimal, and then it's just owned by the studio via that AI. AI is now set up in this contract to be, if you decide to use AI as a tool,

then that's one thing, but there's no, like, credit solely to WB for whatever, whatever. It's a situation of if you, like, wrote out your draft, and then you're like, A, you know, AI, can you go clean some stuff up or a little bit as far as, like, spell checking, or, like, maybe the sequence isn't working, just snowball ideas, whatever. That's very good that they got that.

Yeah, it's huge. I wish I had that 15 years ago in school. The teacher was like, yeah, go ahead. You can use it for a little. Now what makes me nervous about AI just taking it outside of the industry, I have had a number of people be like, oh, bro, I just threw whatever, whatever

in a chat, GPT, it just gave me everything. And people are doing that in school where it's not like a look at my paper and make sure that it's right my paper. People are going to be morons. Dude, I am so scared because people are going to be super, I thought about it the other day with my kid.

I was just like how, because there were other things like computers and other things you could tell if kids are doing. So if they like Google and then they like plagiarized and you can find that stuff out. You can really, you can figure that out. But how do you plagiarize when some, how do you figure out when someone types in, oh, I need a history paper in this? How do you know that they didn't write that? It's crazy. The only way you could do it. The only way you could potentially do it is you could.

probably put some sort of metadata in there that makes it clear that this came from some sort of AI. But then, you know, you would have to have engineers deciding to do that and do it on the side of teachers so that if they needed to catch some. But it's literally already happening. But as far as the writers go, they can use it as a tool now. Yeah. That's one of the major things. So that's huge. Yeah.

And the numbers are streaming numbers. The streaming numbers. That was massive. So one of the big things that was happening is people were not getting proper residuals for streaming. And that was the last writer strike was the, debate about like DVD sales and stuff like that. Normally you're getting paid out of syndication off a TV, you know, friends does so great, ends up on TBS.

Everybody's getting paid out that way. Well, because it was going to streaming, there was both this, oh, it's new media type situation. We don't actually know how well it's doing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So now you actually have, it's all confidential. So it doesn't have to be released to the public. That should be. But if you notice, but if you notice, it's a situation where, like,

Squid Game would come out, and Netflix would be like, a billion people watched it. But then, like, you know, what was the Kim's convenience? That was the show that Simulio got his start on, right? They might be like, oh, yeah, we don't know. Is it good? We don't know. Like, if people are actually watching it,

they now have to give that because there are performance incentive bonuses. So that if the show hits X amount of streams, X amount of watch hours, whatever, then that is going to be your residual check coming in, which I think is completely fair. Totally fair now, and the actors will probably get the same thing. That's what's so beautiful about this is it does actually carve out a path for SAG to do something very similar and to get those same kind of deal. So those are the two major points. You also have, you know, the idea of that they were fighting for rooms and like having minimal writers and rooms, stuff like that. All of that stuff.

They got a little bit of absolutely everything, some close to 100% of what they asked for, some less. But they got it. They won the war. They won the battle inside of the war itself. And like you said, the studios were, they made it worse for themselves. They really did by trying to put their feet down and greed. They were able, they could have taken care of this a long time ago. But nonetheless, the writers are over.

Strike for SAG should be over, I think, fairly soon. And as I mentioned in Winston, I think that we're going to be really kind of slammed with. Because think about all the cast. that's going to start coming in. Immediately. I have already gotten a warning from my manager about some stuff that was in the pipeline. They're like, obviously we have to get to the end of the strike first, but she's like, just be ready.

So like since my leg was broken, she was like, make sure you're at least back in the shape you were prior to that. Like, we could blink and as soon as it's over, if it could go. You found a good time to break your leg. I really did. If I had to break my leg, what a time. time to be alive, man. It's true. But, but, but it, that's, that's, that is literally the whole thing. No deals are

being talked for, for actors, anything like that whatsoever. But it is a situation just like with the writers, it was kind of like, if we're really getting there, just be ready to go. And that, that was the one thing they said, don't write anything that was being worked on. But don't just not write. Like, you know what I mean? Like, make sure you're still at the top of your game, because once we can start talking to people again, we're trying to get jobs. We're trying to make deals. Well, I thought about, I mean, just like a, along the last, of the stuff that is going to come out. I mean, there was things that we could definitely talk about leading up to, and there were tidbits here and there, but like all the different

things and people, potential interviews and things that will come out and more things that we'll be able to check out. And it's, there's going to be a lot of stuff, especially for our show. Yeah. It was, I will say this. This strike was so painful for so many people, not just the two unions that were, that were striking, one that it still is. But for obviously all the people that were involved in production as well, but I honestly think part of what this strike did do, other than show the solidarity for the people that are actually bringing you this content and this stuff that you want to see, a lot of people have been complaining about, like, man, it feels like things aren't as good as they were, or like, for every 10 movies now,

one of them is good versus, like, you know, half of them are good or whatever. I think it also allowed time for people to refill their creative juices. A fire got relit by us unifying, and I think it also gave people time that if somebody, like I had one friend in the writer's strike who was straight drama, and they decided to take that opportunity to go take an improv class. And now all of a sudden, that's just going to add more tools to the tool belt in order to try and like it'd be better to be a better writer, to be a better artist. I think it's only going to create stronger content now that it's coming out. And now that residuals and stuff are involved, you're going to see less, more incentive. So you're going to see less of Netflix throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks

and just being like, no, we know we got 10 bangers. And also, they know that there's only so much money they can spend before that start paying out. And they're like, let's hold back and let's just put out quality as opposed to everything. It's essentially what you're saying as well, too. So, all right, let's move on. We got some other stories they wanted to get to. And here is one of them. Angelina Jolie.

She explains why she has an appeared in a movie since her divisive MCU debut. Angelina Jolie hasn't appeared in a movie since. She made her MCU debut as Thina and Chloe Zhao's Divisive Eternals in a new interview. The once prolific actress, she explained why. It's from Mark Cassidy. Angelina Jolie made her Marvel Cinematic Universe debut in 2021's Eternals as one of the more powerful members of the team of Immortal androids, Thina. Despite emerging as a highlight of what would prove to be a highly divisive movie,

the once prolific star hasn't appeared on the big screen since. However, despite some speculation to the contrary, it doesn't sound like the film's mixed reception had anything to do with Jolie deciding to take a step back from the limelight. While speaking to Vogue, Jolie revealed that she did intentionally begin to take on fewer film roles in recent years and is now only taking jobs that didn't require long shoots. She said, I'm still understanding who I am at 48, she tells the magazine. I'm glad I'm in transition as a person. I feel a bit down these days.

I don't feel like I've been myself for a decade. in a way which I don't want to get into. Jolie declined to go into specific reasons for limiting her acting roles, but it sounds like she's been more focused on finding other creative outlets such as her fashion brand. I think part of this has also been therapeutic for me to work in a creative space while people you trust and to rediscover yourself. I'm hoping to change many aspects of my life, and this is the forward-facing one. This obviously doesn't bode well for Jolie's suiting up Estina again for an eternal sequel, though she did seem enthusiastic about a potential return at the time of the film's release.

police. She says, I love being part of the family, so I have no desire to separate from that family, but I would be happy to play her again and explore even more deeply the struggles that she has. I think it's fun thinking of where they've been over the years. We've got thousands of years worth of material. We can take her anywhere. I think that's fun, and I like the idea where we can pop up somewhere, maybe in other Marvel movies. So the first thing I want to say about that is good on her for being so honest. You know, good on her for saying, like, we've all been there no matter what career it is or no matter what hell, I mean, for people who

follow me long enough, you know I've been there, that you get to a place, you get burnt out. Yeah. And so, and she wants to do other things, but she also didn't say no on playing that character. And by the way, did I see it with you? I think it was so a coy, or, I can't remember, it was so you were coy.

You saw Eternals with coy. Right. And I remember thinking, though, because when Angelina Jolie was cast, I was worried because I said, all right, here we go. Just putting a movie star in there because Now we're going to go into this path where she's going to have to take the limelight. And she didn't. I thought she was fantastic.

Wasn't about her. I loved it. She was fantastic in the movie. She played a background, not background, a big character, but she didn't have to steal the limelight. She felt like Marissa Tomey in the Spider-Man movies where it's like we're giving you an A-lister in here. Like we're giving you because she has she won an Oscar shot? I know she's been nominated. Girl Interrupted.

She won for Interrupted. Right. So you have an Oscar winner. You have someone with like a very legendary career. and you're using them simply to add some star power and some veteran acting to this, but it's not about her. Like, her character's interesting,

but it really is focusing on the other eternals and how they're kind of processing stuff, right? So I think that that's beautiful, and I also love the fact that her getting into trying to go through that transition. I think that that's something that we all go through. People love to talk about the, you know, midlife crisis and stuff like that,

but I think the pandemic did something to everybody where we took stock of life. I think it really rocked not just the kids not being able to physically go to school. It rocked us with our social status, how we did with work, everything. So if she needs to take a step back and be like, look, I've done this long enough and I'm kind of over it. I'll still do it from here and there. More power to her, man. And she can come back at any time and decide that she's got a new zest for it.

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All right. Thank you once again to our friends over at BetterHelp. Check out that link in the description. All right. Let's get to you. One more topic, my friend. Let's do it. Let's do it. Wakanda. Ryan Kugu's Black Panther spinoff now rumored to be an animated series on Disney Plus. We've known for a while now that Black Panther director Ryan Kuger is directing a spinoff set in Wakanda, but was once believed to be a live action TV series now looks to be an animated project. During the 2022 Comic-Con and San Diego, Marvel Studios showcased its upcoming animated offerings in a panel specifically devoted to those upcoming Disney Plus projects.

Since then, updates have been few and far between, leading to concerns the likes of Spider-Man freshman year and Marvel zombies might have fallen by the wayside. What if season two and X-Men 97 are still thought to be heading our way in 2024, but beyond that, we can only assume the rest of them remain in various stages of production. The Cosmic Circus recently shared an update today after doing some digging and unearthing a number of production companies founded by Marvel Studios. These are all for upcoming animated projects, including one called Maglev Train that's working on Golden City. Those were previously reserved for what was thought to be Black Panther director Ryan Cougar's Wakanda spin-off series,

but the live-action project is now going to be animated. This may have been the plan from the start and does line up with recent rumors. The Dormelage are rumored to be the focal point of a show which picks up after the events of Black Panther Wakanda forever, and we'd hopefully be right in assuming Cougar will utilize a unique animation style. which pays homage to African artwork. Elsewhere, the site speculates, the Great Pumpkin. Maybe a nod to either Spider-Man freshman year or Marvel's zombies, but they're unsure what battle-anybody productions LLC's Rock the Bells might be referencing.

So there's a couple other things there, too, but I think that, to me, I'll tell you why this makes sense. This is also going back to what was going on with Bob. Chopec? Yeah, with Chapeck. and shape back yeah what was going on with him green light and everything give me 75 tv shows can be 4,027 movies you know all this stuff in the same and then bob byr comes and he's like whoa and then after all the strikes and what they're going to in general what they're going to do you're going to see certain shows that were announced are never going to see the light of day no there's

going to be certain shows i would be surprised if echo even comes out i think it might because they shot so much of it but echo i wonder what's going on with Ironheart, I wonder what's going on with, there was a couple other ones that they announced, but like this is the problem, and I think because MCU was so successful, by announcing so much, it doesn't allow you to quietly go,

well, that's not working out, let's push that aside. They're going to have to do that. But as far as this goes, this allows you to really make a fantastic animated series and give Ryan Cougar one more, as you said before, a tool in the toolbox to show how incredibly,

talented this guy is and now give him an animated series. Why not? Absolutely. I mean, and you know he's producing on Iron Heart. I know there's the back and forth of whether that's going to happen. I got to believe that Iron Heart is still happening. I would believe more than Iron Heart is happening more so than Echo, even though Echo is probably more shot. But the only reason why, since they have made Armor Wars a movie now, I think that there is this, you're trying to make the connection since we're, for those that didn't, can I spoil something for Secret Invasion that's done? Or how do we feel about that?

Well, look, so, say spoiler earlier? We can tell them now. Winston's going to give you a spoiler word for Secret Invasion. I've seen two of them. Me? I don't care. So we're going to give you a spoiler. And if you don't like it, well, then you should have clicked on.

All right, here you go. All right. So at the end of Secret Invasion, you end up with a situation where you learn early on that Rody has been a scroll. Come on, man. Oh, my God. And then we end up finding out that it looks like, Rody has been a scroll, I believe, since Civil War.

Which is ridiculous. It's kind of wild. Makes no sense. It's one of those things where it both does and doesn't, where if you kind of look at it, you can go like, okay, I guess Rody has been a little more aggressive since Civil War, but it's still, that's a lot. It also showed that he didn't care.

I mean, it's a longer conversation. It's a longer conversation. But that being said, we now need to get reintroduced to Rody, and we really need to dive into Ironheart and, like, really where she kind of falls into this, right, with Riri. So I think Ironheart still happens. If it, instead of being a full show is like a limited series of like two or three episodes just so you can kind of get that, I could see that because you need to connect those dots of

Rody and Riri because that's really going to be the main focus here since Tony doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, I would rewrite that show and I would make it something else and take some of the moments that you shot from it and make it something. The problem was because you very well could introduce Riri again in the TV show. and make her better. Some people really liked the character. I loved her.

I thought she did great. Didn't work for me. Just because not that it was bad. It was just like it was a clear setup for a television show for me. And as I was watching it, I'm just like, I just don't know if I need to see any more this character. Because it was a lot, it just, I didn't know if she deserved a TV show yet. And if they combine it with another character that would, like, whether it's Rody or wherever it might be, and do something else. to really get me involved in it, or say, F you, Christian,

we got a good story, we're going to go with the story we like, and then I go, well, I was wrong about that. It's the reason why I really do think it is still going to happen, and you can debate with Echo one way or the other, because I don't really think she falls in the Young Avengers category, but she really were laying those seeds out for the Young Avengers to come together, and just the one movie appearance with Ruiwi, I don't know of necessarily enough to immediately throw her into the team,

so you need to kind of give her a little bit more. Yeah, but, but yes, I think story-wise, that makes, complete sense. It's just now, after everything you just told me with the writer strike, sure. Everything going on with Sack. Sure. Disney and Marvel can't afford to spend money on all this stuff right now. They've got to be very selective

in what they're making. I agree, but I think you're not going to abandon the story that you were telling. You might streamline it more. Right. But you're not going to abandon it. Because like the other thing that's been interesting, I mean, obviously the strike has been happening. I feel like since studios have just wanted to continue to

release news so they feel like they're relevant at this particular moment. We haven't heard anything about Daredevil in a long time. No, I mean, there's some stuff with Daredevil that had come out before the strikes. Before. I'm saying we have heard plenty throughout the strike about a lot of different stuff that the studios are still dropping news. Devere Devil's happening. I'm sure it is. 18 episodes. But that went out of the three of them, that's the one you go with because it's got three Netflix series that are seasons that were very popular. People loving Charlie Cox. And the fact that Bernthal's coming back is a Punisher.

Like that one you definitely, and end, one more, more recognizable. I agree with you. The other reason why that you've got to, if you were going to say to me, okay, you can only keep two, what two do you keep? I keep, for me, I keep Daredevil and I keep Ironheart. Of these three, of Daredevil, Ironheart, and Echo, yeah, Echo can go to the wayside. Because I didn't, personally, I thought the actress did a good job. I didn't really care about the character by the time I was done with Hawkeye.

And that's one of the major reasons why, because you can. can, at your point of what you said before about why Ironheart fits into all this makes complete sense with the Young Avengers, you also have Ryan Cougar as a producer, you have all these things that could be working for it. That was a very popular movie in general, right? Echo is coming off of a series that some people really enjoy it. Other people thought, it's just okay. The character didn't pop out like anybody else really thought it would. But what they also can't afford to do, because Secret Invasion had Nick Fury. It had Roady, and it's looked upon

as one of the worst things that Marvel has done. They cannot follow up another, they can't have another Marvel series that stinks. I think, and that'll be very interesting to see what happens with Loki season two, because there is an odor

on Disney Plus Marvel shows right now that does not smell good. No. It does not. And so... But you're always as bad, you're always, it's like your last game, if you have a great game, then you can get it back on track. And if they can lead, what's supposed to come out next?

TV wise. Loki. Loki, right. Yeah. Well, there you go. So if Loki brings the fire, then we can kind of push it back to where we need to go. But to bring it all back to what this originally was with Ryan and Wakanda, I agree, A, you're talking about probably your, you can make the argument your strongest, if not maybe your second or third strongest director out of all of your movies because you would then maybe say what the Russo's and gun. So you can make the argument that Cougler is probably right there at number three.

You know, I'm trying to think who else have we seen in there as far as delivering consistency throughout. Not as far as... Not just like one movie. Right. Because like Favro is an all-time great director, I think. But that's so far... He's done the first movie. No one takes away that if he set up the whole thing.

Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah, Kenneth Brana. Great director, but Tycoa Titi had a good first movie. And then if he's second. No, Babel. And then... Who else? Yeah, I mean, I guess like some of the...

The biggest movie, Civil War was all the Russo's are the top dogs. Yeah, I think it goes Russo's gun, just based off of what ended up happening with the guarding and then... I agree with you. I agree. So knowing that that is your third superstar director, really, because I'm just considered the Russo's one director, then why wouldn't you want him to be involved in more stuff?

And I, you know, this show, making sure that that stays forward, and I also have very few sources, but I have a few that I heard about this animated thing. I just had to be quiet for a while. I'm happy to hear that it's still going forward. And, you know, I haven't seen him miss yet. Some might say that the weakest thing that he has done might have been Wakanda Forever.

And Wakanda Forever still came out of the pandemic, pulled 800, got Angela Bassett, and an Oscar nomination in Wicester, My argument should have been a win. And, like, you know, what are we talking about? Yeah, that's a hard. That's a hard one to judge. I mean, I guess that shows you how good his library is because it's hard because the thing is the guy was also working off of his star passing away.

So it's like, yeah. But that's my point. I'm not even talking about it literally, it's why, God, I hate the Cowboys lost last week. Drives me absolutely crazy. Shut up. But if we had had that injury to digs. And we had still put out a win and it was a sloppy win, but it was a win. You'd be like, okay, not your best work, but like you still killed.

Right. And that's the thing. It may not have been like we have seen the Fruitville stations, the original Black Panther, the creeds. So we know that he can give you an A plus plus plus plus. He's still got an A minus on this. No, I know. He's definitely, he's right now. And is he going to be just producing this?

Or is he directing it as well, too? I am not fully sure on that. I know that he is obviously the creative mind behind it. And for those that are familiar with shows, you're talking about showrunners and stuff. And I'm actually very curious with the deal how this is going to work out with Disney because they are infamous for not necessarily

having showrunners for these Disney Plus shows. You do have somebody kind of writing it, but they weren't doing a traditional room and stuff like that. So I am very curious to see how this plays out. We'll see. All right, that's our episode for today, man. We had a lot of things to talk about for sure. What stood after you?

Did you, first of all, do you agree what we just talked about? Do you think that any of those shows? shows should A, go forward, B, which one? Or do you also think that, you know, which one shouldn't go forward? Or do you think, you know, maybe all of them should be canceled? Go ahead and let me know on that one. Talk any thoughts on the strike? Anything about the James Gunn, D.C. universe, anything in general that you were able to put those comments in there in man, hit the like buttons. They help so much. And obviously, as we mentioned in the episode, what also helps very

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with Christian for capes and cows, Christian and Coy. And who knows, maybe I'll come in and talk about the UFOs if I finally, you know, finish the documentary. But other than that, man, just, yeah, go follow me on social media. And then Winston and I also will be doing a reaction to Loki, most likely, it depends. We're going to talk about it. If we decide we want to drive into Hollywood but when we don't have to. It's a matter. But it's also. I live there.

I mean, for me, so we got the screening, the screen error to see it and the screening. The only reason that I'm very tempted to go in to go watch it is because of the Asoka, when I saw Soka episodes one and two in the big screen, and it was pretty great to see it on the big screen. And then when I got the screener, it takes your name and it puts it all the way across the damn screen.

I hate it. So it's very possible. And if Winston and I wind up going to see it, in Hollywood, then we'll probably do an out of the theater reaction for, I'm assuming they're going to show episodes one and two. Probably. They're not going to keep us there for, because are they half hour or hour? An hour.

They're not going to keep us there for four hours. I'll fight somebody. They're not going to show four hours show. They're either going to show one or two. I think the thing you sent me said two. Then they'll probably show off the two. All right. So keep a lookout for that.

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