The Kristian Harloff Show - Should We Trust 1st REACTIONS To Superman?!

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

Do the first reactions to Superman encourage you or is it too much of the hype machine? Jurassic World Rebirth reactions and reviews are in! Running Man trailer out soon! The box office is a big one w...ith F1 taking the lead. Kristian Harloff and John Rocha are on the show today! #f1 #jurassicworld #superman #warnerbros  SPONSOR: RUGIET MEN: Connect with a provider at https://www.Rugiet.com/KRISTIAN to see if a Rugiet Ready prescription is right for you. You can use code KRISTIAN to get 15% off today!!

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Starting point is 00:00:39 What the hell happened there? That and more, Superman right around the corner, running man, getting a new trailer. So much to discuss on today's show. And John Roker is going to get 575 questions today, and Roxy's going to get 1,033. So, that being said, let's get into it. It's the Christian Harloff show with me and John Roker. Ready? You are good.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Me too. How are you? Welcome back to the show, everybody. It is the Monday show. John Roker's with me. What's up, John Roker? Hello. Hello.
Starting point is 00:01:21 How are you? Happy Monday. How are things? I'm good. You want to get into it right away? Sure. Let's dance. I get a question the other day about you and all the gun stuff and Superman.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Oh, that carefully edited short you put out that totally. You look terrible. Yeah, yeah. I don't edit them. I have a great editor who does, but I don't. It's biased towards you, clearly. But go ahead. Towards me.
Starting point is 00:01:45 I'm going to start clipping up my own stuff here. I'm telling you right now. I'm telling you you to do that for a long time. Listen, none of this. What I'm telling you is that someone said to me the other day that you were talking about, you can't take your someone's opinion serious if they go into the Superman shirt. And they said that you were referring to Roxy. I said, I don't.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I didn't think so. I didn't think so. I love the rocks. The rocks always gives you, and the thing is, the rocks looks, always looks for the best. And so you know that factoring in when you watch. And you can tell that it pains her to deliver a bad review of anything. She doesn't do it.
Starting point is 00:02:18 That speaks to her heart. Like she's a good person. And so she supports Chris. So I would never, in for Roxy. Yeah. When they, it was kind of out of context when I think they brought it up to me originally, or how they said it.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Then when someone else said this, someone else clarified it. It was like, well, no, it's kind of like what you were talking. about, meaning me, with when you talk about like the premiere. Like when you go to a premiere, it's hard to take anybody, you know, not serious, but it's like you get kind of intoxicated with everything going on there. So the same could be said about going to a screening sitting next to James Gunn. You know, this is the 100% thing. Like, Lou, you see the first reactions coming.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I don't buy a word of any of these first reactions. The first reactions out. I didn't even see the first reactions. Yeah. Some people are tweeting out who got access. Obviously, nobody of note because this whole idea of like, oh, my God, they might lose access as if they care about that anymore. But the truth is, the thing is, and I really wanted to spell that notion for the people who are watching. Critics are not out here.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Like, well, I'm afraid I'm not going to get access. Variety broke eternal spoilers right after the premiere. And those guys were back at the next MCU premiere. So it's about status and how much following you have determines if you want to break a embargo or not. But the idea here with this is that you're seeing a bunch of, and fellow colleagues, by the way, I'm saying it's not one person, but fellow colleagues who are going, if you're making this massive deal that you're getting to go to the Superman movie prayer and you're wearing the shirt and you're interviewing James Gunn, I am not going to take her opinion
Starting point is 00:03:52 seriously. It doesn't mean I don't take you as a person seriously. I'm not going to take your opinion seriously until I see the movie. Right. I'll put the wrong content. I think that's the keyword. You just said the keywords. You just said the keywords. You said, until I see the movie. Exactly. Until I see the movie, then I can put it in context and see these things and look at your reviews and then I have a context to go from. And the thing is, WB carefully selects who they invite to these premieres. They've been doing this for years. That's why you see the same people getting the same access to these things and getting to see these movies because they know they're going to deliver more often than not positive comments about the film to get people into. This is what studios are doing now, influencers, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:30 They're ignoring critics that might actually deliver an honest opinion. They wait till the next wave of critics because they know that people are afraid to lose access because they love kissing their own ass about the access they get on social media. They love getting stroked by fans and followers for getting access to this stuff. And they like they have celebrity worship instincts. Some of them, not all. Again, this is all applies to some, not all. They have celebrity worship instincts to want to be close to these creative.
Starting point is 00:04:56 So it's all that you've got to factor into it. So get your bag, work your game for me personally. not telling other people for this way. Personally, I don't take anything seriously to see the movie. Yeah, and I think a lot of that is fair. I also think that there's, I think we've discussed this many times over. I think what the studio does, and I think rightfully so, is they bring people who they think are going to really enjoy the experience of going and maybe having a lot of fun and me and not inviting the critics until they have to, because it used to be, as we mentioned many times over, the critics were really the first ones who got access
Starting point is 00:05:27 to because there were no influencers. There were one of this. So it's a effect for it. Right. Influencers now are a great market. tool and I'm telling you right now that if I was the studio I would do the exact same thing I would have the people excited for my movie first to get the word with audiences to get the people out there to see these movies I do think that what the difference is that for you you're talking with your own personal experience I would say that for people because there are probably there might be people there there that you're like well you know what I actually follow these particular
Starting point is 00:06:01 people. And a lot of the times I'm on the same page, whether they're excited or not. And so this is just going to enhance my experience when I see it. Even if they say it stinks, I'm still going to see it. People I already follow and that I enjoy are enthusiastic about it the way that I am, well, then I'm going to be excited. Now, the flip side to that is if you don't like those people that are seeing it, or you don't, not that you don't like them, but if you're not interested in their opinions on it, then you're like, well, of course, they're going to like.
Starting point is 00:06:31 excited about it. Then that's what you're supposed to invite. You understand the marketing behind it, but for you, that's not going to, you're waiting for the press screens to come out, and then to formulate your own opinion on it. Yeah, 100%. And again, I don't begrudge anybody getting into a status and doing these kinds of things. It's just my own
Starting point is 00:06:47 personal point of view. I don't take you seriously about your opinion movie until I see it. Then I can put it in context and take a look at it. But that's the game, the way it is now. It used to be, as you said, the critics would go in first, but of course these studio spent so much money in these films, and they've into the fan but by the way it's not an accident that we have the fans versus critics thing
Starting point is 00:07:06 happened over the last 10 15 years what critics have been essentially pilloried from a pillar to post and and ostracized and ridiculed and made fun of because the fans want to feel just as powerful as the critics and i think that's fair to feel that way but i think the studios were invested in creating that dissension in that battle so that they could on the other side make connections to the influencers kind of play to the fans because they want to make money it's a business. And it's also, you have people that if they don't have maybe, if they're looking at the movie on a fan's perspective and looking in a way that they're excited as opposed to someone who's not a Superman fan who has to review it for their, for their outlet, and they're going on and
Starting point is 00:07:48 I've got to go see Superman, right? And I'm going to go see Superman. Right. And that's bad too. And there's tons of those people. We know a lot of them. Yes. If you go in with a preconceived notion, negative, that's just as bad as going in with a preconceived notion positive. I want to make it clear. So we're fair, consistent across the field. Like, I don't like to see people who are going in with their minds already made up about a movie. Some of you may not believe this, but I do not have my mind made up about Superman.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I want to see the movie. I want to like the movie. It doesn't mean that I will or it means that, or I might. I don't know. But I'm open to it all. And I don't like people who go in who are like, oh, this is going to be amazing. He farted in the film. It's the greatest fart in the history of cinema.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And then other people who go in who go like, no, everything's terrible. The sweet moment, I didn't buy a word of it. Like, there are too many people invested on both sides of the fence for their own personal gain to have a preconceived notion ahead of time. So, yeah, and that's why I said I was going to ask you about it on Monday because I was like, yeah, I got to see because it's easy to say, well, Roka said that Roxy doesn't want to, didn't like it because, sure, and you can't take those people seriously. And then someone else, but someone else clarified inside of the comments,
Starting point is 00:08:56 the same thing. Well, no, no, no, I was kind of saying more so what you were saying about the premiere, which I don't just do you. And you're also talking about your own personal thing. So I was like, and Roxy isn't paid by DC. Just want to make it clear. And that's the difference. And so the people who are going, and again, there are colleagues of mine who have done the interviews. Mance did the interviews with Superman cast, a friend Sean O'Connell did the interviews of so I love them all. We'll not take them seriously until I see the move, you know. Understood. All right. Well, then I have to ask you guys out. there. Do you guys take this seriously? Do you guys listen to the first reactions out there? And another
Starting point is 00:09:32 point that we didn't really make either is the fact that we, the embargo is still up. Yeah. The embargo might drop for the influencers the same time and it drops for the critics. So everybody's opinions of this movie might come out at the same time. So all this is kind of been a moot point. A moot point, Joey? No, moot. Moot. So make sure you put your comments in and put your thoughts in there, whether it is in the live chat, whether it in the replay or whether it's on the clips channel, man, we got a lot going on to that clips channel. So make sure you do that. All right. Let's talk box office, Johnny. Yeah, let's talk about it because I knew the F1 would do well. I don't know if I knew it would do this well.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Jesus. It did pretty damn well. So so far for the whole weekend, 55 million domestic, but the international, look at that number, 144, wow, starting out on week one. That's to me shows make a good movie get good buzz have people saying your movies fun and an old school blockbuster and they will come see it it makes that's another big win for warner brothers here we're about to have two in a row or i mean more than two in a row they're going to they're having a good year this is a good year for warner brother so far it really is yeah it's a really good year and a 144 for for that one it's a big one uh how to train your dragon putting in another 19 point four.
Starting point is 00:10:58 454 million worldwide for that one. Ilya trying to stay alive with 10 million. Unfortunately, doesn't even even crack 100 worldwide, 72. So even though it's trying to make a little bit of money, still going to be a pretty big loss for Pixar. Megan,
Starting point is 00:11:12 this is the story to me. This is the big story. Linus F1, obviously, but Megan 2.0, which was, Megan, the first one,
Starting point is 00:11:18 was a pretty big hit. Yeah. Domestic. Yeah. 10 million for this one, internationally, not even seven. with 17 million.
Starting point is 00:11:28 John, maybe as I'm looking, so you can look up the budget for this one and see if it's going to be anything, how much of a, either hurt or surprisingly, potentially a profit they still could make, but 17 worldwide on this sequel,
Starting point is 00:11:42 not the best. And then 28 years later, putting in another 10 million. So that ups its $103 million. God, John. Yeah, it's falling, though. I mean, 20 years, this is a really interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I think the story is Megan. I agree with you. And, of course, F1. but like 20 years later is something that people need to be talking about because it is sinking like a stone now since the first weekend and this does not bode well for the trilogy
Starting point is 00:12:07 overall. If the financials are not that strong for this movie. So we will see what it ends up with and then we'll see how that affects the release of the second film and then the potential third film we will see. But the Megan situation, the box office is 17.2 million
Starting point is 00:12:25 Oh, sorry, the budget was 15 to 25. So the box office being, what, around 17 worldwide total so far, they probably will make or break even maybe with this movie, but it is a colossal failure. And I think the interesting stuff you talk about, Christian, when you talk about influencers, this was a thing that was driven off influencers. And I saw influencers trying to push this film.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Oh, yeah, Megan 2.0 all over social media, because Megan was such a big social influencer campaign, I think the timing was the situation here, man. You're going up against F1. You got Jurassic World around the corner of Superman. This one just got lost in the mix. They should have released it earlier in the year. And I think Elios, I finally saw that last week,
Starting point is 00:13:06 such a beautiful film. Loved it. It should have done way better than it's doing, but when you're going up against How to Train Your Dragon and you're going up against Leelow and Stitch, it just got buried. So both of these would have benefited from being moved out of their slots, their release slots, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:21 It was. And the thing again with Apple, Apple makes a movie for $250 million, whatever it is. I think it's what F one is. And it's going to, it's already going to make 200. It's contrary to some people, they're saying it's not going to make its money back. It is. It's going to make its money back.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And it's also going to do is the fact that for, like I said, with Apple, Apple's a different beast. You know, if Apple just comes close to, if Apple comes close to just making its budget back, it's a win, you know, for that. It really is. But otherwise, they're going to, they're going to make a profit on that movie because this is a word of mouth movie. This is a movie that people are. still going back. More and more people, my dad called me, but that's usually how a barometer of my dad's calling me and the first thing he asked me is like, so, do you see that Brad Pitt movie?
Starting point is 00:14:03 The F1 movie? Is it good? It's a good. It's the first thing he asked me. So, and then my friend and my friend at the gym was like, oh, you know, the other one I want to ask about was F1, any good, and I was like, so people keep asking me about F1. And every single person I've talked to so for that has seen it. Fun movie. Great blockbuster. Good time of the theater. I haven't had one bad thing about it.
Starting point is 00:14:27 No. I mean, there are holes to poke in the storylines. There are things you can criticize it for, which we did in our review over the weekend with Geek Buddies. I think the damson Idris plot line fades at the end of the second half of the movie, which bothered me a little bit. I would have liked more with him and his world and his mom and more of that stuff
Starting point is 00:14:46 explored a little bit. But it's a Brad Pitt movie. And they clearly show you that in the second half of the movie. Does the relationship happen really fast? And is it organic or not? You can make criticisms. But there's an overall energy to this that is fantastic. And you just love being in the theater.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Like I said, old school blockbuster. You have a lot of fun with it. Top Gun Maverick was a much more emotional and soulful film. A little more layered. A little more layered. Right. And I think this one doesn't get too bogged down in that and focuses much more on his story. And my friend texts me the other day, he's like, this is a Western, you know that.
Starting point is 00:15:20 He's a gunslinger coming in, saving the company, teaching the young buck some new things, falling in love with a woman or having a rush to the one of the channel. Shoot those cans, kid. Exactly. And then he rolls out of town to go help someone else. And so I was like, well, I hadn't seen it in that context yet. It was like open the film even more for me. So yeah, a really fun film.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Someone brought this up in the chat on Friday, I think it was, about they had. have to make a Days of Thunder F1 collaboration movie. Like Brad Pitt and both Sunny and Cole doing a movie together. Kovinsky said that. The director of
Starting point is 00:16:00 he actually said he was in an interview. He said, I would love to cross over these two franchises. Oh my God. And that what's his face? Hayes, whatever, Sunny Hayes would have him and Cole have some old beef from when they were young. And since they're working on a Days of Thunder
Starting point is 00:16:17 sequel. Combine it. Let's do shared universe there. Tom Cruise needs a new franchise. Mission Impossible. Clearly, no one cares anymore. It's done. No one cares anymore. It's over. At least for those prices, $400 billion. Right. It's over. For that kind of money.
Starting point is 00:16:33 So, and then if Apple, if I'm Apple and they go, listen, we want to do days, Days of Thunder and F1, F2. And that's like, should we? Yeah, sure. How much you need? We need $8 billion. That's it. Sure, take it.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I was going to sell some new. I was going to say swatches. I'm going to pay for a wedding, but after that, I'll fund the damn movie. Are you getting married? No, I'm saying Bezos, because he just got married. I got to fund this wedding, and then I'll pay for the movie. Bezos helping out, what's his face at Apple? Who's in charge of Apple?
Starting point is 00:17:09 But what do you think of the Megan thing? What's your thoughts on the Megan thing? Because, I mean, you've been doing this for, you know, quite some time, Christian, and you've seen some of these films pop up and then not do as well. What do you think sank this sequel to a degree in the box out? I think that the first one hit it the right time, as you were saying. Did you find out what the budget was of that one? Megan, too.
Starting point is 00:17:32 The first, Megan, too is, as I said, 15 to 25. 15 to 25? Yeah. That's what it's listed on Wikipedia. So, I mean, so right now it's made what? It's made 17? 17, right. So it's possible at least we get Megan's money back.
Starting point is 00:17:48 The first one was only 12 and it made 181. Right. Well, I mean, that was Matt. Right. You're talking massive hit as opposed to at least we didn't take a huge loss, which is not what you want on the sequel. You want the opposite, right? You want to be more.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah. I think that it's like, I don't know if anybody's clamoring for Megan to. I think what it was was that was because, look, I saw the movie, the first one. And I didn't like it when I initially saw it. It should be the answer for me of what's a movie you went back and saw another time and then end up liking it. It would be Megan. I saw it twice. We actually just put the the reaction up for Megan with myself and Tina and I knew originally, as soon as I saw the box office
Starting point is 00:18:26 numbers, oh, John. Yeah. I was like, no one's going to watch this reaction. I know. That's why I didn't put my review up. I was like, no one's going to watch it. What's the point? The reaction ate a big pile of garbage. And Tina and I had a really good reaction to it. It was a lot of fun. She had never seen it before. It just ate dog shit because no one cares about the franchise. No one cares about the character as much. I was like, yeah, it's a fun. movie, but I'm like, I don't care enough to see what these people thought of Megan, because it was like, oh yeah, that movie. It was a sequel, too. And you nailed it. You said it, there's just too much out there. I don't think it's necessarily, I don't think that it's necessarily, like, Lilo and Stitch or, or any of the I, the Ilio or any of those types of movies, or even the one that F1, I don't think F1 tears into it all. What I do think is, if I, and I always use Wicked Art as an example here, you and me, we go and see movies all the time because we have to, it's our job. We get, screenings were able to do it. When you're budgeting out and you have a family and there's a certain amount of movies that
Starting point is 00:19:22 you, like, he's got a list and he says, okay, this is the ones that we're going to see. It's summer. Here's, maybe we'll add a couple. Maybe we'll, you know, if people have some, if we look and some of the people, you know, that we respect and we pay attention to and they say, hey, you should check this one out. Maybe we'll call an audible and we'll go check on a new one. Megan was not on his list. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:19:41 It's just not. And it's, it's pricing. And it's that. And like, oh, I got AMC pass and all that stuff. Yeah, but still even that even that. It's like you're still, it's time. It's other things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:51 So I just don't think that people were clamoring for it. I think they were trying to hit this market of like 15 to 25 year olds. Like hit that market. Yeah. Or maybe even 12 to 25 year olds hit that mark that maybe isn't serviced by fully by other stuff that's out there right now. And they thought they could slide in and kind of grab that market. But man, clearly. they miscalculated big time on this one.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Plus, it's 20 minutes longer than the first one. It's not written by Keila Cooper, who wrote the first one, which is what made it unique. And then I saw some horror film critics who I follow, and their comments were there's not even horror in this movie. It's a Terminator 2 film all over again, which is what the trailer is pitched, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:34 So you can't fault the company for lying to people. But clearly, people enjoy the horror aspect of the first film. And then they made Allison Williams be front and center with the AI in her, no one's going to see this movie for Allison Williams, for God's sake. So to me, I think they made the mistake by not leaning into her more, into the Megan more, giving her center stage more, making her the focus. The kid and Allison are just kind of, in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:20:59 not that big of a deal to that franchise. I think if they'd focused on her and her journey, like Megan's journey through this, and then this other Megan shows up to counter her and stop her, and there's horror around that, Megan. I think that would have been a much more interesting film than what we seem to have gotten to hear yeah well i that's another thing i can't speak on it because i didn't see it um the screening was literally at the same time of f1 and i chose yeah i chose up one in the
Starting point is 00:21:23 same time because i had missed uh i had missed um the f1 screening prior wasn't going to miss it again and i wasn't going to miss it for megan i mean maybe that also shows you know where i was thinking i was like i just think that this movie to me a what i want to see right i think more people are going to care about what i'm talking about with f1 than they do if i did meg it you know um i didn't know if I want to do a, I was going to, I almost was going to save it for a reaction to watch Tina, but I don't know, I'm going to do that. I don't know if anybody cares. I'm not even doing out of theater.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I was going to see it today or tomorrow, but I don't know. But jump back real quick to what you said about 28 years later, right? Because 28 years later, didn't it cost like 60 million to make? I thought it was in the 75 to 80 range, but we kept saying that. People kept telling us that we were wrong and it was 60. Because if it was only 60 and it made 103 million so far. Wikipedia. says 60. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But 103 is still not a massive hit. You know, and you want to, if you're going to get to at least 150, you'll get to a 150, you don't think so? I don't know. Now with Superman and Jurassic World and Fantastic Four coming out, please, if it makes a million a week,
Starting point is 00:22:31 I don't be shocked. Yeah, you'll be right. You might be right because 10 million so 10 million this week, this was like the last kind of chunk they can make. But even you, I still think that if you're Danny Boyle though and you make your money back or get close to it, they're going to give them a second movie to try. I think they've already shot most of the second movie, I think. So it is going to come out.
Starting point is 00:22:52 My question is about the third film. The third one. If this comes out as middling, then the third film becomes. And the third one's going to have Danny Boyle direct. No. Well, no. The third one will. The second one will. So Nia diPasta, unfortunately, may take another bath here. And she's got all the, and she's got all the weight on her shoulder. Yeah, she's got the marvels, Stings on her, which I don't blame her for. I'm doing the studio for that. And then now she's got to take this on.
Starting point is 00:23:17 And she, you know, she did Candyman, which a lot of people had those feelings about. I didn't see that. She's kind of snake bit a little bit in the situation. Yeah, that's tough. That's a tough one. All right, guys. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about the box office.
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Starting point is 00:24:44 You know that until I saw that on the, on that thing that no one did. Stalling. 14. 14. Let's do this. I'll tell people about it when it's, when I'm ready.
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Starting point is 00:27:29 And what a deal. So make sure you go, the link is in the description or at least it should be, hopefully PLD or Luke would do that and we will be keeping them on for as long as we can. So make sure you guys are checking it out. John, one of the things I was going to tell you is like, you know, you and I have talked about and I said this to the day. I have, and I told you I want to pay attention more so to the positive stuff that's happening on the channel than the negative stuff, you know, and especially with the chat and
Starting point is 00:27:58 everything too. Because it was, it was stuff that the audience had made me aware of. And I was like, yeah, you're right. I want to stay more positive on this. and have you still be have conversations about criticisms and things of that nature and but when it's just i don't want to focus in on just negative energy right and one of the things that the audience actually proved me even more so is i so do you remember when i did the um this was before you and i were really hanging out again but in the 2007 i did a i i shot a pilot it was
Starting point is 00:28:30 myself mark ell i mean mark ells was talked about it on the show before yes yeah eliza slest Singer was in it and yeah it was really Yada Martinez like and it was and there's the look at that so I'm actually going to put I'm actually putting the pilot episode the full because I hadn't had the full pilot episode I'm putting it up on the channel as soon as this is done I'm putting the full pilot up on the on the channel oh wow oh that's right I've had the web episode the web episodes but bad quality it wasn't really edited in the in the way that it was supposed to be the opening wasn't even in there to say it was just it wasn't it just not 28 minutes and i'll do a reaction on this pilot you i would love that i would love that i would love for you to be out of the house for
Starting point is 00:29:14 two or three days if you're a reaction to it i'll i will highlight it on the channel of done done please um so anyway the reason the one of the main reasons i'm also putting it up there too is because i am i'm currently writing a pilot that i've talked about it in the in the vein of like you know the bear californication meets hacks it's kind of like the idea of it um and my goal what i want to do with it is even though and and this again because the audience's comments and everything too even though the as i was taking inspiration from what chris duckman did with his kickstarter and how he raised money for it and that's the same thing that i'm going to do for the pilot but then the audience kept saying they're saying you should just try to do it and try to do a full season you know i don't
Starting point is 00:29:57 know if i'm going to go that route i don't know if i'm going to do that route yet i don't know yet i don't know know yet. I have to see first the script. I worked on it all weekend. I actually just sent it to my writing partner this morning. She's working on it and tweaking on it. But I was like, I said that the main thing that I want to do is that I just think that you're in a position right now in the way that, you know, because you and I come from a place where it's like you would write a script and you hopefully, first of all, you try to get it to somebody. And like, hopefully an agent will read it. You can't get a meeting if you don't have an agent. You can't do this. You don't have this. You can't do this. And even though I have some of that stuff now, it's like,
Starting point is 00:30:34 it's not that you don't need to do that stuff now. Like, you used to be, you like, well, you can't do this and not going to put you in this. You can't do it. You have the power. Yep. To take the power away from the studios and the networks and have them tell you no, you can say, look, I get it. You don't know me from a hole in the wall, but the audience does. And the audience is to see, but you've got to make it, you've got to make it good. You've got to make it that the audience cares. You've got to make it that, you know, they want to see more of it. They want to. And so my goal is to try to do that, to then put that together. If we can fund a full season, amazing. Because think about it in because I want to make it look, I want to make it look like it should be on television already.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Yeah, of course. And if you're a, if you're a streaming service and somebody's done the work for you already, yeah, what you got to do is air it, you know, and if it looks that good, And it is good. Who knows? You get a shot. You don't have a shot. So that's what I'm doing. And I'm also, so I'm putting up, once again, this is not, it's not necessarily.
Starting point is 00:31:38 All I can tell you is that it's in the same, you know, the same shared universe, but it's not really, if you, if you watch the pilot for then, and you may or may not hear names down the line. But it's like, it'd be fun for you guys. But it's like, but for the most part, I'm putting that up to just to show you, this is what we did in 2007 with no audience. Right. There were no Kickstarter. There was no YouTube really. YouTube was out for like two years. There's nothing.
Starting point is 00:32:03 It wasn't that. It was just we were, we found a way to kind of max out credit cards and do things that we could. And we made a show. And then right before the 2008 writing strike, that was perfect. So I would ask the favor from the audience. Hey. That at four o'clock, right? Four o'clock, yeah, four o'clock Eastern time.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Okay, one o'clock. Make it live. Just do me a favor. Don't watch it. Click like, put a comment on it. It's all I'm asking you to do for that. And I'll play, you know, little things for it. I might actually even do a reaction with Sam for it too.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Oh, nice. Let Sam see it, but John's doing a reaction for it. So go check it out. That's it. Will I be allowed to put the whole thing on in React or do I have to do it at anything? Well, the only thing is you won't, no, I won't strike it, but the only thing is you won't, it won't be, it might not get monetized depending on how you, Because if you do the full thing, if you do the full thing, because I'm put, I'm not,
Starting point is 00:33:03 it's not, I'm not monetizing you neither because I've got, you remember, it was shot, it was shot as a presentation. Right. So I'm using all music that I don't have permission to use. It's all, I'm using, you know, like there's Moby songs in and old school tribe called Quest and there's tons of stuff in there. But it's like, so you can put it on your channel. You just won't get monetized.
Starting point is 00:33:27 unless you like those cuts and you cut around it the way that you do for you know other things anyway so let's jump into this ladies and gentlemen let's get to this story Jurassic World Jurassic World Rebirth the reviews are in I just put mine up this morning I don't know John if you put yours up yet see it yet I haven't seen it no our screening is tonight but I can't go tonight so I'm going to go 845 a.m. on Wednesday morning all right all right the reviews are and with 65 reviews counted, Gareth Edwards, Jurassic World, we were coming with the decided mixed 58% of Rotten Tomatoes long way.
Starting point is 00:34:03 What, but all these people who said it's great. John, it's the premiere, man. In both cases, there's a decidedly higher score than the last two Jurassic World films that, shoot, sorry,
Starting point is 00:34:15 what they received. Dominion hit a franchise low of 38 out 100, accurate. It's also a better score than Jurassic Park 3 on both the Lost World, Jurassic Park on Rot Tomatoes. In other words, it's one of the better sequels.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I don't disagree. I don't this 134 million film, 134 minute film aims to return to the franchise roots, bringing back original Jurassic Park prescribed you, it kept, and adding Edwards, Nack for visual along with Star Power thanks to Scarlett Johansson. The result, however, can't seem to escape the been there,
Starting point is 00:34:43 done that feel, facts, according to the reviews, which most appreciate the visual and tonal shift, but rather, taking its bland. Agreed, I agree a lot. I'll tell you what,
Starting point is 00:34:52 the more and more I read Liz Shannon Miller's reviews and clips, I mean, she was in, she was in the Schmodeown. I'm so on par with a lot of her opinions. This is great. I'm so on par with great. She really is. I'm really on par with a lot of her opinions on movies. Anyway, the second best Jurassic Park movie ever made.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I can, I understand the argument. I understand the argument. Admittingly, this isn't as huge of a compliment as it could be, given the movies that have preceded it. I know exactly what she's saying. Yeah. Now against all Oz, these dinosaurs have a brand new, refresh, brighter, breezy, or funnier, better acting.
Starting point is 00:35:25 over here, that. Let's see. There are worst exercises in IP extension out there in the marketplace. That's true, but it is hard to imagine what possible basis are going to be for an eighth Jurassic film. Well, I can make the argument about that. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Jurassic equals are bad enough when they made an effort to evolve. They're even less worth seeing now that they've already come pre-frostless. Okay. So, all right, all of that is all warranted. It's not like a terrible movie. It's just the been there done that is the most accurate. It's just it's the same same thing. It's, and it is, it's better.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I don't mind Jurassic World, the first one. I don't mind. I don't mind. If you don't like Jurassic World, you're probably going to think this is definitely the second best, like Liz Shannon Miller did, right, which I can understand it. It takes some of the lure and stuff from the Jurassic World movies. And then it basically takes the format and structure of the Jurassic Park movies and more so Jurassic Park 3, but it says, hey, but this time.
Starting point is 00:36:25 we're going to do it better because we got scarlet johansson and maherchla ali the problem is as good as they both are i don't give a crap about their characters like i don't care i don't care about their characters and care about their stories when it comes to kong and godzilla like i never and transformers i never want to see the human stories just show me the robots show me the monsters i don't care about the human stories drastic park shouldn't be that drastic park i should care about the character stories oh sure it's part of what makes it special. And I didn't care. I was like, come on.
Starting point is 00:36:58 These are two really good actors. Like, I don't care about their story. The visuals, fantastic. But I'm like, I just don't care. When I said at the end of it is the same thing with what that guy said to answer his question. Well, why are they going to make another one? Because for some reason, this franchise, as much as I hated the last two, I mean, I hated the last two.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I'm always down to watch a Dressa Park movie. This thing prints money. It prints money. Yeah. How is this tracking? Oh, good question. Here, I'll take a look. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised with some of the responses here in the mixed. But this film has never been about critics helping its box office, as you said.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Like, it's all about does the audience enjoy it? And we haven't had audience scores yet. And so we'll see what the audience score number will be when that stuff happens and we'll have a better idea. But budget is 180 for Jurassic World Rebirth, 180. Well, that's what the budget is. I'm saying what's a tracking. I'm saying what's a tracking. Sorry. You know, tracking it?
Starting point is 00:37:58 Talking while I was, yeah, my bad. You know, budget and box office, I start with a B, so I got confused there. What's the tracking here? Ooh, it doesn't. Look, you keep talking. I'm going to find something. I'm just curious in general what I'm, I really want to know what it's tracking at. Like, if it's, because I still thought, and I might change my tune, obviously, that it was going to be the one that was going to be the one that was
Starting point is 00:38:23 going to make the most out of all of them because it's like one 15 to 135 because it's opening oh right right right you know what that was over five days so it's not tracking wonderful but that's that's domestically right so i'm curious yes because where drastic world always makes its money is internationally yeah always makes its money international so i could have sworn that it was going to be you know the top dog and i might change my two because i'm going to see what's going to happen i just always thought that people want to go see dinosaur movies because I always, you know what it reminds me of I always like I told you for a long time I used to bet on the UFC when I was following it all the right. Right. We're like the 2005 area was really because no one really knew how to bet on it because
Starting point is 00:39:08 they used to bet on it the way they bet on boxing thinking whoever the, whoever the higher person was that was, whoever the favorite was was usually going to win. That's what usually happens to boxing. Wasn't that way in UFC because it was a because it's a different animal. It's like, You never knew. Yeah. The goal pretty much in boxing is go for your head, go for the body. And the guy who's better at going for both of those things and has the better skill at that skill set is going to usually win. You might get lucky and catch a good night.
Starting point is 00:39:35 You might hit a shot. And it was never worth putting the money down on the underdog. It just wasn't. It wasn't. Every once in a while I did it. Like Jermaine Taylor may be Bernard Hopkins, which I was actually at the fight in Vegas, which is amazing. But the odds weren't like spectacular. But then UFC comes around.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And it's like, well, yeah, this guy, he's just such a good kickboxer. Yeah, but he's fighting a, he's fighting a wrestler. Right. He's fighting a wrestler. And then the wrestler takes him down and then grounds and then you just got plus 560 on a guy. I mean, look, Matt Sarah, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Most money I ever made betting was again, was with Matt Sarah, who now I'm very good friends. And I thought we talk about it all the time. But my point with that is it's like I used to. Anderson Silva. I would always try to throw down a hundred bucks against Anderson Silva
Starting point is 00:40:28 because eventually he's going to lose. Right, right. And the guy never lost until, you know, finally, Mitrione down the line, but I was like far out of it at that point.
Starting point is 00:40:38 But I would put down, oh, 100 bucks, I'll put 100 bucks to see. Yeah. He wins. That's Jurassic Park. That's the long way
Starting point is 00:40:44 to say that's Jurassic Park. Like, I don't put money against Jurassic Park anymore because he, they always win. in, you know what I'm saying? Jurassic Park and James Cameron is undefeated.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Yeah, yes. Yes. So I don't know. I don't know how this movie is going to do. I just don't, I think it's one of those movies, and I could be wrong, but I just feel the reviews are insignificant for this movie, because if you either want to see Jurassic Park or you don't, the magic is still there for you, or it isn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think so, too. I mean, yeah, will it cross over? Will it get you excited? I don't think a lot of the casuals are going to be like, oh, this is amazing. You know, it's, I think it'll do enough to squeak by because according to the screen rent, it has to make 450 million worldwide to be considered a box office success, not just a break even to be a success.
Starting point is 00:41:37 So, I mean, four, you know, I'll get the 450. Yeah. You don't think he's going to get the 450? I mean, we'll see. I'm saying we'll see because a five-day weekend head start is great for them. But if you said, if a lot of people go see this and it's like tired, word of mouth is going to affect that big time. One 30 projector for five day is not great. 1.30 projected for three day is good.
Starting point is 00:41:58 130 for five day? That's not great. It could overshiny. That's right. It could overshiny. On July 4th, remember a big July 4th used to be? Yeah, man. Will Smith.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Speaking of Will Smith, you see the stuff going around with the rapping that he's doing? Holy molly, what's he doing? What's he doing? He just is irrelevant, bro. But he just started to come back into people's good graces with in the movies. What are you doing? Girl, girls. How long?
Starting point is 00:42:25 Girls, girls. I mean, and then he's just sitting there. The rap, I mean, it's the kind of rap that I do on this show. It's the kind of rap. It's, well, let's be fair. Well, this is something we can talk. You can't drink. You can move.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Okay. Roca, yeah, man. I'll tell you he's having a lot of fun. I don't know. why but the guy he hates James gun. I'm talking about things all the time and things I just can't see. Why oh why does the man hate DC? Oh, hit me.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Hit me. That's me. That's great freestyle. Look at that freestyle, y'all. Terrible. Well, listen, again, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, we have a little help on that. But Will, Will, Will's in our wheelhouse. And so Will was never the greatest of rappers.
Starting point is 00:43:19 No, come on. Everywhere in the Go conversation. He was fun. He was, it was enjoyable. I think his greatest is probably getting jigger with it or maybe summertime. Summertime is a classic. But he's never, you know, he's never been the greatest. But it wasn't that.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I'm not surprised to see that. Dude, no, wait, summertime and, and nightmare of my street, all that. That's great stuff. What is, dude, he was like, he was like, don't even rhyming. He's like, I went down the street, bought myself a sandwich, and then I went back, and I got another sandwich. And it's like, what do you? That's not, come on, Will. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:43:55 He hasn't been good since he did that stomp song, which was horrible. That was the end of Will. And look, I love Will. I love Will's an energy as a person. I think there's a lot of things within Will that he's navigating as a human being from his past always. And that biography, they wrote it. I thought it was a really good biography on him. But like, I'm always going to love Will.
Starting point is 00:44:14 and when he does dumb shit like this, I just go, why are you doing this? But I love you still, man. It just breaks my heart. He was getting, he could have all the Oscar stuff and he was climbing out of the hole. He did bad boys again and he started doing other stuff. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:26 why are you giving him people ammo again? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He brings up the Chris Rock thing again and one of the bars. He's like, what are you doing? What are you doing? Anyway, I don't know how we got down that road. I guess. Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:44:39 All right, listen. Yeah. What that has to do with Jurassic Park, I have no idea. I have no idea either. But why don't you comment and you tell me what you think about? Jurassic Park, Jurassic World Rebirth, do you care, do you not care, first reactions? You're going to see it.
Starting point is 00:44:54 You're going to not see it. What say you? Speaking of not see it, checking it out. I will not be watching the trailer to Running Man tomorrow. Why not? Because I want to see the movie. Oh, for God's sake. I don't see the movie.
Starting point is 00:45:09 I don't do it. Unless I'm going to do reaction to it, maybe I do reaction to it. I don't know. I don't know, maybe it's lied to everybody. I might go, I might check it out. But I do want to see the movie as one of my, the point I'm trying to make. I'll be at a terrible point. Paramount Pictures has unveiled a first look at Glenn Powell and Edgar Wright's new adaptation
Starting point is 00:45:26 of Stephen King's short story, The Running Man. The glimpse is from a brief clip unveiled today. The announcement is the first trailer for the remake goes online tomorrow. Tomorrow. The new take is said to be more akin to the original work than the 87 Arnold Schwarzenegger-led film, which skewed more sci-fi. Powell will play Ben Richards. I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:45 forced to take part in a game show where he's hunted by professional killers. Coleman, Domingo, and Josh Brolin, co-starred of the film which dropped filming earlier this year
Starting point is 00:45:53 and reportedly landed the full blessing of the Terminator star. Powell himself had dubbed the hardest thing I've done in my life, the running man hits cinemas on November 7th. I didn't realize
Starting point is 00:46:02 it was coming out this year. Yeah, clearly, if there's a trailer coming out for it. I don't know, I mean, look, I love, I love the original movie.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yes. I don't know the story well enough they said, I didn't realize that the movie itself leaned more into sci-fi. Like, what did the original do? Yeah, yeah, the original Stephen King book, or a story does lean more into the sci-fi aspect of it. But you weren't going to do that with Schwarzenegger. So, you know, they massaged some of the details in the original story to make it work for a Schwarzenegger. Wait, Schwarzenegger.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Is it Verhoven? No, Verhoven did Total Recall. I forget who directed Running Man, but it was a vehicle, right when Schwarzenegger was doing vehicles, right? It's very much a vehicle film, so they made it work for him for what they're doing. There's much more going on in that book because it's a Stephen King story. So I like that they're going to explore that a little bit more with a, no offense to Arne. I love Arne to pieces, but with a much more layered actor, shall we say? I understand what I understand.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah. Can we talk about how Richard Dawson was a lot better than he should have been? Oh, Richard Dawson was, well, I mean, he was a pro. He was in Hogan's Heroes. He was a pro as an actor. He was so good in that movie. He was perfect in that movie as the game show. But when you get in
Starting point is 00:47:14 Killian So and Jesse Ventura was fantastic In that movie too Listen Richard Dawson got the best of Swarcing other way When he's like, I'll be back Only in reruns It was genius It was so good
Starting point is 00:47:28 Jesse was great too I love the ring Hey light bulb Hey Christmas tree I love that movie I love it It's gonna be very Two of those guys would be governors of states
Starting point is 00:47:40 I would have laughed in your face I'm telling you though I and I wonder I wonder because I I love that movie I wonder if I'm going to respond to this film not because I shouldn't be remade
Starting point is 00:47:55 no I not that I just liked the science fiction aspect of it I like the idea is he the butcher of Bakersfield or is that something that they just made up for the movie like I don't know I don't know that enough about the book or the short story of what the differences are
Starting point is 00:48:11 maybe that's going to be part of the fun for it for me of looking and you're going oh that's so significantly different and they're taking it from that and the way that maybe they took so many different liberties from like the Shawshank Redemption short story yeah yeah right yeah they added on to that which they should never remake that movie no I agree that's one of those unremakeable films I understand that you can remake like I understand you can remake this movie I do I really do understand how you can make army man and making more than short story um but Shawshank yeah i don't know mean i don't think that they're going to but they did they should never touch that movie so it was so good i agree they keep trying to redo the shining and it never works it's
Starting point is 00:48:49 never going to match with tv shows and other things right right yeah because other movies is not it's never going to work so it's what about um i know uh josh didn't put this on the rundown but uh the hell's josh sorry uh den of nerds uh i'm sorry i can't think it was name right yeah jake it was his name you are you are all over the question are you talking about luke from the Luke I knew there was four letters sorry sorry Luke sorry brand different channel different person I look I respect Luke and and uh you know him being a young man and all that but like project Hail Mary should have been on our rundown today that trailer dropped this morning from Lord Miller it was fantastic
Starting point is 00:49:27 really good I haven't checked it out it's good yeah yeah I did my reactions up the guy who wrote the Martian wrote the book and Ryan Gosk will lead in this and it's Lord Miller it's their first live action film since 22 Jump Street put that in your mind. 2014. Wow. Their first live action films because we didn't see solo, obviously. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah, so the trailer is incredible. It looks solid. Yeah, really good. That's kind of, okay, so that's my point. Yeah. I will not be watching those trailers. Okay. Because you've already, first of all, you sold me on it.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And even if I didn't hear you talking about, I would be sold on it eventually because I like everybody who's involved in that. Yeah. So that's one that I definitely want to check out. I'll be, I'll be watching. that one for sure when it comes out but yeah i'm not going to react to that trailer so i don't watch trailers anymore unless yeah because i just i i i really love like i i use the movie drop as an example um it wasn't a good movie it was fine it was fine but i knew nothing about the movie going
Starting point is 00:50:31 into it i didn't know if it was a harm i the only time i realized it was like a thriller or whatever it was was when i saw the opening these blumhouse right so it's oh it's one of these movies okay great and then I started to say oh I like learning about it as I'm watching it like I'm just thrust into this story and going oh what the hell is this I don't know what this is this is great and like who are my characters who's everybody I like that sense of excitement kind of going into it and so knowing okay look goskins I didn't see a single trailer for f1 by the way oh wow which was it made it made it so much better for me because like I didn't react to any trailers I don't believe that I did because I don't I don't remember a damn thing in the in the movie so
Starting point is 00:51:07 somebody can go back and look and call me a liar. But I don't think that I react to anything. I don't remember anything from the damn thing. So I don't think I reacted to anything. I never saw a trailer for it. But anyway, they were playing it nonstop in the Apple story yesterday on every screen. Of course. Yeah, because they can.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Anyway, so running man, everybody, what say you? Do you want to see it? You're going to check it out? Put your thoughts in there, let us know. All right. Last story before we get into the questions. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:37 And this is a story. I don't necessarily think Luke put in the rundown. Okay. You might have, but I would be lying to you if I told you I had a chance to look at the rundown. So here's more for you. There's three stories on the rundown we haven't talked about. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Well, it's more for you than it is for me. Brian O'Connor returns in Fastel. Was this in the rundown? No. Perfect. Things have been very quiet on the Fast and the Furious franchise front since the 10th film FastX open just over two years ago. Development has been underway on Fast 12 for much of that time.
Starting point is 00:52:13 A film that expected to rain the prior films ridiculously bloated 378 million budget as well as serve as a swan song to the franchise. Though a 2026 release date is planned, there's not been any reveal of production dates as yet. After some months of quiet, though, Vin Diesel showed up at Fuel Fest in SoCal on Saturday to offer a project update. Diesel confirms the project has been delayed with the title now aiming for the release window in April 2027, when the entire cast will be 83 years old. The movie will be taking it back to the franchises' roots with the action set in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:52:51 In addition, the late Paul Walker's Brian O'Connor character will reunite with Dominic Tretto on screen. Walker starred with Diesel in the original and appeared in five further installments, the latest of which he hadn't quite completed when he was killed in a car crash in 2013. I can't believe he's been gone for that long. Walker's brothers, Caleb and Cody were hired as stand-ins with Walker's face superimposed over their bodies, either from old footage or as a CG recreation. Those are only short scenes. How will he come back and what extent will be involved in?
Starting point is 00:53:19 It's not clear. This to me seems like where we are going in the future of film. Okay. This to me seems like, hey, do we have AI tools? Do we have, can we? And I'm assuming that they're going to say, hey, do we have the permission, obviously? Can we do this tastefully?
Starting point is 00:53:39 Can we make this work in the way that we did? Can we make it the Luke Skywalker thing that we did in Mandalorian? Can we do that for longer? Can we bring Paul Walker back to do this movie? Now, whether they should is a different conversation. It'll be part of this conversation, but the first part of it is the tools that they have today. and by 2027 might be scary in how it is going to look because I'm seeing stuff dude now with the AI stuff and the other things that they're doing I can still make it out that it's
Starting point is 00:54:17 AI but it's getting tough I just saw this whole thing and it was I'd be lying if I didn't tell you it was awesome somebody like a whole order 66 the whole scene of Anakin and the stormtroopers coming in and isn't in the the voice is still robotic and there's no emotion into it but like but maybe it's warranted with with aniken i don't know but they walk in and it is it's grueling and as the music it's got it you see that stormtroopers are or the clone troopers are burning people alive and it's but it felt like order 66 and there's this whole scene that i watched through and i was like this is nuts how they're able to do this now and this is the like almost beta version of this stuff go watch on TikTok
Starting point is 00:54:59 they have the AI vlogs where they have stormtrovers landing on Endor doing self logs as they're landing and talking about all the shit they're going to have to do for Vader and talking crap about Vader. Then there's ones where it's Moses
Starting point is 00:55:15 about to go see Ramsey's. He's like walking into these like, hey it's Moses guys I'm walking in to see Ramsey is going to beg for and release for people. And it's like oh my God. Like the uncanny valley is almost gone in some of those AI short clips and it's really
Starting point is 00:55:31 unsettling. But I'll say it. Go ahead. Go ahead. I don't know. I was just going to say so my point is that's with a YouTube channel. Yeah, yeah. If the studio's going to spend money and they've already spent $360 million in that last movie, which is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Is it feasible that they, that's the point of conversation is more like we were going to see how they're going to pull this off and how much they're going to put him into this. That's the first part. We'll get into this should they do this in a second.
Starting point is 00:56:05 But give me your thoughts about the announcement here that they're doing this. Well, let's read the whole quote, right? The studio said to me, this is what he said. Then can we please have the finale of Fast and Furious in April, 2027? First of all, the studio never said that to him. And he said, I said under three conditions.
Starting point is 00:56:20 First is to bring the franchise back to L.A., everyone's been telling him to do that. So it's going to guide us. It's his idea. The second thing was to return to the car, culture to street racing. Again, everyone's been saying that. It's not his idea. The third thing was reuniting Dom and Brian O'Connor. It's important. Reuniting, it doesn't necessarily mean that Brian O'Connor will be back. It could mean reuniting with Brian O'Connor's family.
Starting point is 00:56:45 His energy could be his son, could be someone related to Brian O'Connor. It might not actually be Brian O'Connor. So let's say, but let's take your possibility here in the conversation. If they do AI with him, I think that's crossing the line. And now we've, we fully going to get this all over the place. Right. The Luke series is important. And all that was cool. And the Rogue One stuff was fun.
Starting point is 00:57:10 It was interesting for Tarkin. But now if we bring in Brian O'Connor, and of course, you're going to have to get the Paul Walker people to sign off on it. But if they do it, then I think all bets are off. And who else but Vin would do it? Because Vin is desperate for hits. And the only place he makes money now is fast and furious. Yes. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:28 So, yeah. I think it's less about the desperation also. I don't think it is not that. I think it's more the second part of what you said, which is it's his bread and butter, right? 100%. Like the show, the film didn't do well the last film. And so I think he wants to get people back in. This is how you do.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Sure. Well, what's just stupid because the movie did do well. It's just a crazy thing. So here's a thing. Yeah, right, right. No, but that's the thing. That's what I always say. It did do well.
Starting point is 00:57:54 It made like $700 to $800 million. But it did. because it cost $360 million. That's what I mean. Did well. Like that's a great number. That's a great number. But it's like,
Starting point is 00:58:05 but you're not going to make money off. Oh, how can we hit a billion? Because I wasn't doing that at that point. You can't expect box office wasn't doing that. You spend 360 on that stupid movie. You can't do that. You guys,
Starting point is 00:58:15 you spend 200. You would have made that, then we're talking about, well, every movie it's been a hit. It would have been a hit. And they pulled the budget back on it. But the reason I think that it's,
Starting point is 00:58:25 you don't make the announcement if you're just going to have his family involved. Like the character involved. I'm telling you, but I'm telling you, the thing is, because it's been, you also forget,
Starting point is 00:58:36 he hasn't been as much lately. Yeah. You know, he was one of those guys was excellent on social media. Excellent with keeping up with building the brand. It's true.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Keeping up with the, you know, trends and things of that nature. He is the one to call up and go, what can we do it? You know, it's like, And I'm telling you, they're going to use AI.
Starting point is 00:59:00 I don't disagree with you. Yeah, I think Vin wouldn't care two shits if we had an issue with the AI stuff. No. And I do agree with you that I think that this is going to open up the floodgates. I think this is going to be that thing that goes, well, look, this is what we're able to do now. To think about what AI was six months ago, what it is today, we're talking about this movie coming out in what, two, three years. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look at the James Earl Jones stuff. So we just happened, right? They're using his voice to do stuff. And so piece by piece, this idea of artistic integrity, you will be on an island by the time it's all over. Because AI is not going, people, regular people don't give a crap about your creative feelings about AI. It's going, it's coming, it's been coming. And these little shots across the bow are going to set up something big. And this could be the big thing because it's,
Starting point is 00:59:57 It's a massive blockbuster. You bring in Paul Walker. And if you can't tell the difference, if you can't tell the difference, the only thing, it's going to be like, F it, I don't care. I'm getting entertained. You hit the nail on the head. That is the magic trick of this whole thing. The magic trick is going to be, are we going to go in there?
Starting point is 01:00:14 And like you said, whether you go and you look at the last Indiana Jones movie or even the Luke thing or any of those things. And you said, I get it. That's the character, but I know that's not real. Right. You can tell. If you are sitting there. and you can't tell, that's when it changes. If you can still go in there and going,
Starting point is 01:00:33 I know that's not real. They did that. It was probably just doing that to get it. I don't know how I feel, but if you sit there and you go, I could not tell that that wasn't him. That's going to be the game changing time that happens, whether it's this movie or another movie,
Starting point is 01:00:49 that's when it changes. Anyway, Star Wars did it with Rogue One, right? What's the greatest way to get out of the recasting debate? is you use AI to bring Luke and Leah and Han back to do a thing. Then they bailed on that, though, but then they got scared and they bailed on it. Now, I'm telling you, once it becomes something accepted, they're going to open the door to it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:09 The conversation of AI in the movies is long from over. So what say you about this? Is it the right thing to do it? Is it the wrong thing to do? Should they just let it lie, let Paul Walker rest in peace here too? Should they bring the character back to honor him? what do you guys think about this? Put your thoughts in there.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Let us know. John? Yeah. I'll tell you. When I called out to the audience and told them we think we have 13, we now jumped to 53. It's pretty good. Pretty damn good.
Starting point is 01:01:39 53. But before we even get to the questions, you're going to try to set the week as you do normally. What's going on on the channel? Yeah, the Outlaw Nation channel. Well, I will say this. The Outlaw Nation channel is changing starting next week. next July starting Monday next July
Starting point is 01:01:57 oh sorry Monday yeah Monday next week we will be changing to the John Roker channel completely the outlaw was fun and it was a great time and I enjoyed it and of course it was a great launching pad for the state for the channel but you know the outlaw hasn't been around for a while and the Smodown is over and not coming back and Mark Ellis is making sure of that and so I want to say so we're changing the John Roker channel that's what it's going to be
Starting point is 01:02:21 all new graphics all new stuff happening. And it's time to move on. The outlaw energy will still be there. Don't get it twisted. But the outlawation is pretty much coming to an end next Monday. But we've got so many great stuff coming for the channel. So right now, of course, we've got geek buddies, hot mic, a spill tequila, my reactions and reviews, all of that is on there as well as Jedi away. We'll probably have a show this week with some of the Star Wars news that dropped like that, Owey one, Kenobi season two rumor. So there'll be stuff coming up on there. So please come hang out with us there for now, as we're the Amla Nation by becoming the John Rogar channel next week.
Starting point is 01:02:55 And thanks to Christian for helping you. I'm glad. I'm glad that you're doing. That's a smart move for you. I'm just, it shows you how out of touch I am at Star Wars these days. I had no idea that was even happening. There's a season two rumor.
Starting point is 01:03:06 How viable is it? Well, it was Rickman. So it depends on how you feel about Dana RBCA, if you believe his stuff. But basically, they're apparently working on a season two and trying to develop it and see if they're going to get that. Because I think there's enough people who like season,
Starting point is 01:03:22 them that I think it's worth it to try season two if you're going to do it better. You know, if you're going to have an and or approach to it to a degree, I think it could work really well. I don't disagree with you. I don't. Will they have the balls to do that though? Yeah. Will they have the balls to say, look, let's just revamp this thing.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Yeah. And let's take this and give it like the serious kind of HBO Max feel that we did for and or because we're still in a period here where it's like, you know, it's still, he's, he's in the dump. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the way they left it off with Quigone, he's going to be doing like side missions and stuff too, because you can't bring, you can't bring Vader back again, though. Like, I was a big advocate of doing Vader for the first time. You can't bring him back again.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Yeah, you can't. You ruined, you, you really, you ruined that. Yeah. It was fine for what it was. They had an opportunity to really make it, like I said, it all, it made total sense. I actually just had a conversation with the director that I interviewed two weeks ago. He said he used to watch United Council. talking about you know you convinced me about why they needed to continue that story because of the
Starting point is 01:04:27 line they say in jett i said oh b1 once thought as you did and i said well when did we ever see that when did he once think that there was still good in them and we didn't have that realization and the fact that they reeve it was the one that told them that it was an akin to stupid was that um so hopefully hopefully they do something different with it if they do i love look i love you and McGregor. If they take an and or approach and they revamp it, if they do the same tone as I'm out. Yeah. Change it up and they realize that, hey, look, we messed up the first one. Let's do, let's do that.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Yeah. Then I'm on board. Yeah. Take him off Tatouine. Maybe you've got, maybe you can still play with a young adult or teenage Leah, maybe. But I, I don't know. But there's other things like, yeah, it didn't, it didn't play into like, Leah, Leah shouldn't. That kid was great.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yeah. That kid was great. but she shouldn't have been involved. Leah didn't have that relationship with Obi-1. Right. She didn't read it. And she doesn't remember him. She's like,
Starting point is 01:05:24 the fact they saved her life a thousand times and all these different things. And when you find us, it made no sense. Anyway. My perfect day has sand, salt, water, and friends. But my moderate to severe plaques psoriasis can take me out of the moment. Now I'm all in with clearer skin thanks to Sky Rizzi.
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Starting point is 01:06:39 It really was. And I'm sure it was pretty cool in 4DX as well. I'm glad you got to answer to do that. Al Rensha. AMC now warns at least on the app that the movie starts 25 to 30 minutes after the showtime. Thoughts on this. I don't think they've done this before.
Starting point is 01:06:56 I think that's a smart idea. Because you're going to piss people off, I think, if you, you know, hey, movie starts at 3 o'clock, but it doesn't start until 3.30. I'll tell you, it's probably a good thing for my wife. My wife took my kids today to go see Lilo and Stitch. Nice. I don't know what they thought of it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:16 But the movie started 1245, and I guarantee you, I guarantee you, I guarantee. to you they probably got there at like one o'clock thinking they were going to miss 15 minutes of the movie and probably still had 15 minutes of down time it's perfect for my wife perfect um but i think i think that's a good thing to do because otherwise it's like i'm sitting here for what if i have dinner plans oh my god the movie starts at seven o'clock it starts at seven o'clock yeah we can meet we can meet you it says the runtime is an hour and two hours so let's do nine 15 and then you don't meet, then you're not there because you're 30 more minutes of previews. I think that's a good thing to let people know.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Yeah, that's the thing. I'm more, you know, not everyone's a season movie going, right? Like we are, we know how long certain things are going to take, right? Most people aren't paying attention to that kind of stuff. So letting them know ahead of time so that they're not angry at you, which I imagine people have expressed anger about this whole situation. Sure. At least you're letting them know ahead of time to factor that into their arrival time, you know?
Starting point is 01:08:15 Agreed. Okay. Al Wrenching. I just saw you Jurassic World Review. I disagree. I look at it more like Godzilla and Kong, even a little John Wick. I know what I'm getting. Hey, that's fair. All right, I appreciate the maturity in how you presented that. Um, and I'm, it's fair that you disagree. I think, listen, if you know what you're getting, I think that's one of the reasons how it does as well as it does. Because if you accept it that way, I don't really care about a detailed story. I just want to see dinosaurs. Then you're going to be happy. You're going to be happy. I just feel like there should be a little bit more, uh, as we're talking about with Tom Gun Maverick, I think this should be a little bit more. depth to it. Yeah, a little more layered. So, um, okay. Mad Sinister McCall, my eyeballs are numb from TV. A season of the bear and Squid Game dropped two days apart. We need to bring back weekly episodes, both are fantastic. I couldn't agree more. Netflix isn't going to do it. I think that they should. I think it would help their, their platform even more so. Um, but I don't know why the bear switched. Am I wrong? Didn't the bear start week by week? I thought the first one was week by week and then
Starting point is 01:09:17 it became a binge thing or it was a binge and then one of the seasons we go and they went back to me that one that's i'm going to get that first i still haven't even finished squid game season one so yeah um are you like and what's first of all what's the what's the landscape as far as what people are thinking about the latest squid game and how are you feeling about it seems like well i'm love i've only gotten two episodes and we had to stop after the second episode because it was so emotional And so we're going to try and finish like three of the episodes tonight and then finish it out the next day. But like so far I'm happy about season three, but I've seen some reviews where people said that right after episode four is when it kind of veers into a place where some people have had issues with the finale. The bear pretty much I've seen across the board has not been received well.
Starting point is 01:10:05 No. The critics have not been started. They said like the whole show is basically it has no forward momentum for the characters. Now I can't say that's true enough because I haven't. watch that yet. But I like last season when a lot of people didn't. And so I may enjoy this season as well because I just
Starting point is 01:10:22 like to sit with the characters. I don't need to see forward motion, you know? Yeah, I'm still going to watch. I love that. Nathan Drake will work to wear a Superman shirt. Do you please here? Please. You have to now. No, come on. No. Come on.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I mean, what do you do with the owl is wearing a Superman shirt, Greenland? What's the deal? Or at least wear a Darden shirt. Maybe a Transformer's shirt. When Michael Bay finally comes back. Yeah. It's going to eat farts.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Connor Mullis, 23. Roroka dresses James Gunn to a screen. That would be amazing, too. I'm nowhere near as handsome, so I wouldn't. I wouldn't try. James is a very handsome guy. That is my most anticipated out of the theater reaction to watch of yours as Superman. Trainer Matt M.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Not watching Jurassic World due to reviews cost too much to go to the movie. this is what we were talking about before right f1 f4 soups plus the family is not gonna want to watch to see dragons and that plus 100 alone that you know that was the other thing the stupid mutation dinosaur thing i'm so over it dude there literally is a dinosaur it looks like a rancor it's so stupid it's so stupid i'm like that that looks so ridiculous in general it's get this big dumb head and it's like moving around like that's it looks like it looks like it looks like it should be in star wars not Jurassic park um and i think it was in the last one too but I do think that this is what we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:11:48 People go, I don't want to spend that kind of money. It's not doing it. Especially for families, man. Yeah. Roque at 61 already starting to week. Can he hit 100 at least to put Roxy on her toes? I am two-fly cam. More looking forward to UAP or Odyssey next year.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Well, as far as movies go, I would be lying if I wouldn't say the Odyssey. The Odyssey. For what it could do for the topic of the UAP, if done correctly, the UAP movies could be especially Kaczynski, who's coming off of F1 and what he could do with the David Grush movie, the Spielberg movie, the Bob Lazar movie, the documentary. There's a lot that can happen for the topic.
Starting point is 01:12:25 But as far as movies go, I don't know if there's a movie that I'm looking forward to more than the honesty day. Yeah. That trailer is Wednesday, I think, right? I think the trailer's coming out this week. Got it because you're going to start showing it before Jurassic. Oh, that's right, because Jurassic comes out on Wednesday, right on.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah. Yeah, that one I will be. That trailer, I will be react to do as much as I don't want to be. I will be. This is very, very, very generous. Thank you so much. Hey, very kind. We've been working during the live shows, but off today, so you're going to watch
Starting point is 01:12:57 live. I love that. Thank you so much. And what a very kind, kind donation. My favorite movie was so far this summer has been F1. It's such a great old school, like, throwback movie, isn't it? So much fun. What's your most anticipated movie this fall?
Starting point is 01:13:10 Glad I could support the channel today. You want to see John's eye. roll. Yeah. I have, I have three anticipated for the rest of the year. Okay. Fall and winter, I guess. Okay. My top three. Okay. Number three. Avatar. Avatar. Oh, no. Bruce Springsteen at number three. Oh, nice choice. Two. Avatar. Okay. One. After the hunt. Which one's that? The predator one? Which one? It's the Luca one. Oh, look at one. You know what. Right. Because of uh julio roberts not just because of her the movie because from what i everything that i've read and everything that i've said and i've read a little of the script speaking of the bear
Starting point is 01:13:52 andrew garfield it's got a damn good cast i'm telling you this is going to be an oscar nominated film i thought you're going to say anaconda i thought for sure you want to see anaconda too how about you got you got a top one glad i could support the channel today also that uh i don't know if i've got a top i mean looking through here i mean right now it's still i still in contendant. They said the fall, Tronary. Tron Airy's in the top three. That's a trailer I haven't seen either.
Starting point is 01:14:20 There's a new one? I don't think there was a new one. No, in general. Oh, in general. Right on, right on. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess I would just say Tron Aries. If we're looking at the fall,
Starting point is 01:14:30 I don't see much else in the fall that it's like getting me excited overall. I don't know. It looks kind of, oh, is it weapons this year in the fall? And then Predator Badlands. So I would say those three, those three are the, other choices. Murphardirf. Hey,
Starting point is 01:14:46 congrats on the Cinephiles Star Trek Voyager, H.M. What's HM? Thank you. Uh, Voyage home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Part one is Chef's Kirst. Christian, you're a Treki? No.
Starting point is 01:14:56 If not. Broke, why do you think with all his sci-fi love, he isn't? Oh, because he loves Star Wars. And so he's one of those guys. You know those guys that I don't hate Star Trek. I just don't like it. Yeah. It doesn't work for it.
Starting point is 01:15:11 It doesn't have the same kind of, of magic and i think the chart trek appeals to certain kind of people and star wars appeals to more people and that's just how the approach is but thank you so much yes scott manse came back to be our guest on the center follows last whole podcast and we are doing probably a three-part dive into star trek four boy film so it's been a lot of fun to go back to that one yeah if you well i don't want to ruin it for you john there's it but if you're going to react to the pilot um there's definitely a little star war star trek stuff going on in there of course there is of course that mr j anderson i loved one, I saw it twice, Jurassic on Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:15:45 That's the reason. Someone said F-1's not going to make its money back. I think people are going to go back and see this movie in the theater a bunch of times. Yeah. Especially if Jurassic World disappoints and God forbid Superman disappoints, F-1 is going to be riding that fantastic form. You'll, like, the way that he shot those race cars, you feel like you're sitting in the car with Brad Pitt. 100%. That's awesome. I saw people getting, people getting motion sick in my theater and my screen.
Starting point is 01:16:10 It's amazing. Mr. Jay Anderson, Warner Brothers makes, make that days of the under crossover happen. Please. Your lips to God dears, please, please. I would, that's what I would highly jump to my most anticipated movie, whatever year it comes out. I am too, I can. 55 million domestic opening is not impressive for a $200 million tag. You're crazy.
Starting point is 01:16:29 You're crazy. You're crazy for the kind of, from what that movie is right now in an Apple, in an Apple spending world. Yeah. I know it's different precedent. but it's a good number especially the international number is what made it happening because you can have it as long as if the international would have not been good then i would agree with you but i think you're nuts too flying i love you also canobi season two i just no i just found out about it through john more cringe fight scenes and nonsense writing lucas film is a joke well look
Starting point is 01:16:59 i if it turns out that that's what they're going to do again i don't think debority look i like and i say this every time deboruched did a great job of mandolorean i think she was the wrong choice for Obi-One. I don't think she was not the right choice. And the writing was atrocious on that show. So let's see if they change that. And if they can actually say, look at the kind of love we're getting for Andor, let's do that.
Starting point is 01:17:25 If they can actually do that and they, that's a way you win back fans. That's what you would, to admit that you, hey, messed up. Yeah. Let's do better. Yeah, let's do better. Yeah. But we'll see.
Starting point is 01:17:36 But I'm with you, though. If it's the same thing, then, you know, it's just going to be more of the same criticism and like nice try you just dropped the ball twice yeah yeah um black mom at 17 yeat i had front row at raw last week got some becky sweat on me tastes it like oh my god solo teaching for two a lesson i saw an interview with solo that i really liked this guy has re made himself you really yeah they let him go on the mic and he's able to play the funny moments the hard moments. I did a live watch
Starting point is 01:18:09 along the night of champions on my channel. It was not a good premium live event in my opinion. But Solo and Fatu were fantastic in their match. So those guys,
Starting point is 01:18:19 there's a future for Solo. Solo who's looking to be like the forgotten guy in the bloodline has really reemerged of the last six months. You know what this reminds me of John? It reminds me of the rock a little bit.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Yeah, a little bit just like Roman, right? You know, the reason I say that is not, do I think he's got the same charisma as rock enrollment no I don't yeah but what I mean is
Starting point is 01:18:42 someone who's just kind of like oh yeah that guy and I saw like him playing the humor and he said that one thing I can't remember what he said he's like he's got one one word he's got four letters he goes he goes stop and he's like yeah and I'm like that's like you're letting him be himself instead of just the stoic face
Starting point is 01:19:00 like I'm gonna put my thumb in your throat it's like clearly the guy's funny and clearly he's got a personality and they're letting them use his personality. That is how you turn people into stars if they can capitalize on it. I think Solo is in the right, he's in the right place right now.
Starting point is 01:19:17 You got to know how to poke the audience and piss them off while they respect how you're poking them. That's the line you have to walk. There's no way Goldberg wins the title tonight, right? God, I hope not. Saturday. Saturday, Saturday. Saturday, Saturday. So I think it's next Saturday.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Right, I thought it was on Raw. You're right. You're right. No, no. God, I hope you're. Yes. Black Mama 17. Jade's the worst wrestler on the roster.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Why do they keep pushing her? Because in a second, she can't wrestle or talk. If they put her over Tiffy, it'll be a little crime. We very well might. I'll tell you why. This is going off the old school Vince McEntality. She looks like the ultimate superstar. She looks.
Starting point is 01:19:56 I don't disagree with anything that you said. I don't think she's a great wrestler. I think she's terrible on the microphone. But she looks like a damn superhero. She does. And she looks devastating. you give her a run and then you put Tiffy over even more by having her take the title back. So I do think it's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:20:13 I do think she's going to win the belt. God, I hope not, but you might be right. We've seen WW do this in the past. So wouldn't be surprised. But yeah, she, I mean, at some point, enough with the potential crap, like eight years she's been training. And this is still the best we can get. There are wrestlers who have wrestled study for two years and do way better than she does in the ring and on the mic. But you're right.
Starting point is 01:20:33 It's the look. It's the total package type of thing. and they're going to push her until they can't push her anymore. And eventually the crowd will turn. It will. But strangely, though, like I said, though, it elevates Tiffy if you take the belt away from her and then give it back to her. Look at Gunther. You know, he's a two-time heavyweight champion.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Is it two-time, or he's a long intercontinental champion? But he's two-time champion now and he put it back on him because it carries him. And, you know, he wasn't, he wasn't out of the picture after Jay beat him. He just was building back up. And then they came, so that's, that's how they'll do it. I want to say one thing. I think we've started the John Hina face. John Hina's a big turn.
Starting point is 01:21:09 We've seen the face turn. It was United Champions. That match, there are two or three moments. Cina rejecting the outside help, that's a face thing. So they are definitely turning the wheels on the face turn. Sure.
Starting point is 01:21:21 You have six months left. Yeah. And eventually Cody's going to go heal. I think it'll be Cody becoming a homelander to Cina's face. And that's all the case. That'd be great. Matt Krugman, sadly left the show of Ballerina Saturday afternoon.
Starting point is 01:21:32 There was a pervert next to my lady. oh my god sock sock and sniffing her what the hell did you did you call the cops i wish she told me oh she didn't tell you what was happening people pay to see anna throw hands and not me i'm yeah i i wish your lady would have said something too yeah you know you're too you're too many messed up people you mental mental i'm sorry that happened to you man that's terrible it's terrible what a douche chris j herman i'll talk to fin talk. I'm just going. Chris J. Herman. Looks like Gareth Edwards delivered
Starting point is 01:22:07 another stinker with rebirth. He's a hack of a filmmaker. His best movie, Rogue One is a film he didn't direct. Whoa, that's tough. See, I don't blame Garrett Edwards in the slightest for this movie. In the slightest. I don't disagree with you that it was not his movie Rogue One.
Starting point is 01:22:24 I think his commentary, they proved that. Yeah. I liked the, John does not like the creator. I do, but I will tell you this. they gave him a script. They said, what can you do with this? Can you do this tone?
Starting point is 01:22:38 Can you make this happen? He said, yes, I can. And that is what he did. He did his job. He did his job. He didn't write this movie. He did his job. The directing is not the issue with this movie.
Starting point is 01:22:49 It's not. It's the fact that this is the tone they decided to go with. No matter who directed it, if you directed this tone, and the story, it's the same thing. This is not Garrett Edwards' fault, not even the slightest. He's a hired gun for this movie. Executives, Paramount. They had already decided. how they wanted this movie to go.
Starting point is 01:23:03 They just needed a director to come in and shepherd this thing in the port. And he did the job. And he got paid handsomely for it. 100%. And if it becomes a success, hopefully he got himself some points in the back end. So he did what he needed to do for his life. But if you're judging Gareth Edwards off this movie, you're not judging him correct. Not on this one.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Not in this one. He was hired and he did the job that he was supposed to do. So, yeah, the directing is not the issue with this movie. Mike, Joyce, for Megan 3, they should do a Chucky crossover. Is it the same studio? I guess it is. A barrier even ore with that stuff. Yeah, they're not going to,
Starting point is 01:23:34 I mean, I think Megan's toast after this one. Noah S. 2000, I hope you're both having a great day. Question for Roque. You were saying last week and today, it's the people who get paid by DC whose opinion that you don't take serious. That's part one. So we'll come back to part two. Joe Hendo TV.
Starting point is 01:23:52 I'll judge Superman for myself when I see it next Tuesday, as you should. Yes, as you show. Here's Noah's follow up. Okay. Oh, with that same logic, should we not take Christian's opinion? on his sponsor series since they pay him. I just think that logic is flawed. People can get paid and still be honest.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Okay. So let me address that. First of all, Christian verifies the stuff that he promotes, right? And all of us get sent, because I promote stuff on my channel sometimes as well, my podcasts that I do. They send me the products.
Starting point is 01:24:22 And then I decide if I want to sponsor them. And I think Christian is the same way. That's the difference. If you're getting paid by D.C. to have positive comments, If you're working on a DC show, you don't want to risk getting fired from that show because you are encouraged having worked with studios before in the past, you are on shows. You are encouraged to not be negative about the studio or about the projects. And that's the game there when you look at it.
Starting point is 01:24:49 That's the difference, right? You don't get to have your own opinion. You can have, but it's essentially given to you what you can say, what you can't say, what you can talk about, what you can't talk about. I don't want you to shit on it. Obviously, if you don't like you, just keep your opinion to yourself at that point. If you're working for the company, I mean, that same thing. Look, the same thing is when I was working with Skybound. If I didn't, if, and I didn't watch Invincible, and I still have it, I should.
Starting point is 01:25:10 But if I didn't like Invincible, I wouldn't start crapping on Invincible because it's not working on the company. It makes, it makes the next day awkward, right? But as far as, as far as sponsors, John's 100% right. I don't take, and I've told you guys this. Yeah, I don't take the sponsors if I don't. I've gotten, I've had many people come to the show. and I go, that's not right for my audience. That's not right for me.
Starting point is 01:25:31 That's not something I had ever used. And that's not something that I can ever really talk about. So I only talk about this stuff because they say, we want you to have personal experience with this stuff. So the audience, like, I literally have magic mind. I have tons of magic mind because I love this. And I'm not even a sponsor today. So, yeah, that's, I think John said it.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Right. Galaxy Keys. Hey, Luke. Yeah, there you go. You got it right. Roka. Have you thought of jumping on the K-pop Demon Hunter's reaction train. The movie's trending like
Starting point is 01:26:00 crazy and the reactions are killing it. I should, but my regular editor has gone back to doing his own channel. So I haven't been able to do reactions. You got somebody for you. I got somebody. It's got a good cost. I can't pay like what you pay. So. No, it's a good cost.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Yeah, I'm sure. I'll connect you. I'll connect you with my guy. He's good. I would love that. Yeah. Corn Emperor. Weird how Rick and Morty aren't relevant anymore. don't tell Marvel that they hired all their writers
Starting point is 01:26:30 is that they're not I mean it shows over isn't it well I think he's trying to say what they talk about on the show but yeah Tim Sim first of several to come thoughts on what is apparently jade's push in WWE feels like only very casual fans and marks are swooning for her feels like the supersena push and the pre-tribal chief push of rains in the 2010s no rains could wrestle rains could wrestle
Starting point is 01:26:57 there's the difference in there. He just wasn't over with the fans. Right, right. Right. Yeah, he was always gifted in the ring. He just wasn't, but he was never really great on the mic. He got better on the mic. He did. Sena embarrassed him.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Yes. And that was the moment whether you get better or you get out of the business. And he got better. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know if, that's why people kept saying like, Jade for, for Storm. And I'm like, she looks like Storm. I mean, she looked, if you could.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Sure. Get anybody in the image of Storm. It's Jade Cargill. She looks just like her. The build everything. If you were doing Lionsgate does X-Men, you'd have her a storm. There is no world where she should play Storm because she can't act. She's not good on the mic.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Yeah. Can't act. Hornham, 23 days until Comic-Con. Are you going this year? No, no, no. Not going to. I might go down to see the boys and have like dinner or maybe do a meat drink or whatever. But yeah, I don't go around big people.
Starting point is 01:27:56 places anymore with the lives are over days you see you you would you were like all over that back my friends are working my friends are worried i'm becoming a hermit it's not that it's just i i value my time i value hanging out my lady and i and i don't need to go and expose myself to pounds of sweat and smell and all of them like i'm kind of done yeah i tell you the only time i i've told this story before unless i want a panel i don't know where i can't remember it was in it was in anaheim sure i can't remember i don't know if it was wonder con or what it was i can't remember if I've told this story before many times. Ellis and I were walking.
Starting point is 01:28:31 I know I can tell you the spot where we were. I knew that here. And John, we walked by and somebody walked by us. There was the smell. Yeah. I still, to this day, I don't know what it is. It wasn't bad breath. It wasn't body odor.
Starting point is 01:28:49 I don't know what it was. It brought me to my knee. Ellis looks at what's wrong. I go, you didn't smell that? And I was like, it leveled me. It put me down on one knee. I was like, that was the worst smell I've ever smelled in my life. I'm not kidding you.
Starting point is 01:29:09 I took a knee. I took it. Christian unpronounceable, gifted five Harleff memberships. Thank you. Great time to do it. Look, by the way, for those people, the, the grasping of straws pilot, it was exclusive over the weekend. four members. There's over 200 people who've already watched it, which is amazing.
Starting point is 01:29:30 And I thank you guys. There's almost 20 comments on it already. And like I said, it's exclusive to members. We only have like 500 members right now. It's only 500 members. But like the fact that many people already watched it, it's great. And I'm going to ask you guys again, like once the show is over, which is going to be, you know, within the next half an hour, we're going to play the, uh, I'm going to make this public, the pilot episode. All I'm asking you guys to do is just go over there, throw a comment on for me, click the like button just go you that's it that's all i'm asking you to do i'd love to get your thoughts on it um okay let's see next uh next one here's got my invite for superman july
Starting point is 01:30:07 sima i max oh yes it's right by my house yes al runcha how badly did studios stumble the franchise of transformers and pacific rim step second pacific rim was awful and transformers since first one has been trashed al oh here we go it made $4.5 billion. I would love to fumble the fuck out of a franchise to make $4.5 billion. So you cannot, but you want to say equality and all of that nonsense, fine,
Starting point is 01:30:38 but $4.5 billion, they did just, Paramount was living nice and easy off of that money. Now, Pacific Rim, I agree with you. That didn't work financially and didn't work creatively. Both of those movies were not good. And I love Guillermo to pieces,
Starting point is 01:30:52 but that first one and the second one were not good. So, Bay is coming back, baby. Are you really happy about that? Oh, 100% excited. Are you kidding? Please. Look, no offense to Transformers 1.
Starting point is 01:31:04 And I'm glad that Josh Coolee is getting a live action Transformers film. That's great. The G.I. Joe crossover missed me with that nonsense. But bringing back Michael Bay, hopefully having learned some lessons and figured some stuff out and taking some hits on ambulance, taking some hits on Six Underground, maybe this is a slightly humbler, older Michael Bay, who will deliver something more in the vein of what people want from who love the original transformers and still have a little bayism's tomb so yes i'm very excited yeah um okay so that was nice mike thank you mike so i pilot's pretty good weird to see
Starting point is 01:31:36 mary mark ellis and baby ken naps like yeah they were i mean i you see dude there's a shot of me and i'm like it's because my my daughter wanted to watch him my god was right hopeful thing and um and my wife is like that's that's how i knew you it's like it's crazy it's crazy how She's like, I clean this up. I cleaned this. No, I can tell me the thing. Like, you see it's, you'll see like how it's, yeah, it's when you, it's when you knew me.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Yeah, of course. The hair was longer. I am totally. I am too fly cam. Let me direct and write Canobey too. I'll blow right, Deborah Chow. We'll see. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:32:12 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know your work. I don't know your work. Tim Sim, I enjoyed F1. Simple sports story. Yep.
Starting point is 01:32:18 We saw many times. Yep. But executed excellently despite taking shortcuts in how F1 as a sport works. But that's okay to me. agreed saw it an iMacs still light max size but great sound and laser rush i think that's more than a fair review i would love to go again today man i'm kind of you know i'm busy day but i would love to have carved out three hours they go see it because it's so good yep uh be gill studios prish i applaud you for wanting to create your own series thank you
Starting point is 01:32:43 becoming a content creator as a fellow content creator myself it's a lot of hard work but worth it when it's well regarded in any size yeah i mean that's what i said thank you for that comment very nice and that's the same thing that i had said is that look i'm going to do this i got one shot to really try to make this thing and just bring it to life that's my goal my goal is to bring it to life gets picked up people something happens with it wonderful but if i can bring it to life at least the pilot um so that's what i'm excited about uh go pal the old pilot on up for members of the weekend i liked it a lot thank you appreciate that go pal yeah i mean i'm i'm looking forward to hearing people's thoughts on it once it goes live and for people who have never
Starting point is 01:33:20 seen it before. And if you have seen it in the web form, please go and check it out again because it's so, I just watched it back. I actually asked Clyder to take it down. Well, because it's like, oh, the old clip, the terrible quality. The intro's not the same. It doesn't play. You got to watch, watch each one in short form. It was, it was during a time when you couldn't put full things up there because he gets, they would get blocked for putting up. Now you just get demonetized if you put the music up. Back then, you'd get blocked for putting the whole damn thing up. So I had to like space it out.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Tim, finally, thoughts on now on how next weekend's box office will look, giving rebirth mixed to mediocre reviews and how the next week box office drop for F1 will be with rebirth premiering. Hope everyone's doing well. It's a great question. What do you think, John? Well, I think the mixed reactions mean nothing to dress, as we just said earlier. So I don't think that's going to affect the box.
Starting point is 01:34:15 office anyway shape of one people want to go to escape on diner's own movies on july 4th that's a fun way to escape and scarlet is great i love her so it's great to see her getting that shot so i think that'll be enough to carry it through probably one maybe one 30 140 could wouldn't be surprised if it hit that i don't think everyone's going to drop that much it'll drop the standard but i won't drop too much and i think that's a good thing because people want to enjoy this kind of stuff and enjoy these kinds of movies so yeah i don't anticipate too much of a drop for f1 and i think drastic's going to be just fine the second week of Jurassic is where we're going to find out if it is hitting with the fans or not you know all right
Starting point is 01:34:51 next one here and this is tanner tanner's garden love you both i appreciate the news and entertainment thank you tennar keep up the great work have either of you heard anything about blader blade runner 2099 release date trailer anything is that animated or something uh no it's god i forget who is starring in it but i think it's still in motion from what i understand but there hasn't much there has been much going on so far and all the updates because michel yo is in it. And it's a series is what it is. It's picking up because of the title,
Starting point is 01:35:23 50 years after the need of the news film. And it's in LA. So yeah. Interesting. I mean, you got me on TV show. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:35:32 you got me on TV show. Movie, I'm like, oh, they're doing another one? The TV show? Yeah, got me on TV show.
Starting point is 01:35:36 That's a good way to explore it. Joe Hendo, you probably talked about it in a previous show, but thoughts on the rumor of Michael Bay returning to Transformers. Roka loves, I think it's, I think it's going to prove to Roka that the, that the franchise is at a, is at a standstill. I think it's going to prove, I think the, yeah, I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:35:56 And he's going to, he's going to spend even more money than he ever did. No, I think they're going to put him on a leash. Yeah, right. 150 to 200 tops. Top. Oh, art's going to drive me nuts here. Andrew Ruined Star Wars. Any other Star Wars project is after,
Starting point is 01:36:12 Andrews season two, oh, okay. I don't understand what you're saying. How would we like it when we know it won't be anything close to Andor? Okay, that's fair. Whether it's series or Mendo Season 4 movie theater edition. I understand what you're saying. I know. Listen, that's kind of our point.
Starting point is 01:36:28 John and I just said about, about, Obi-1, season two. It's like, can you get past your, as John says, the ego, can you put the cowboy hat down for a second and say, look, this is what people actually really liked. My stuff, you know, just the cartoon writing and everything. It's not, it's not, it's not working for everybody. So maybe we should do something like this.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Maybe we should try it with Obi-Wan. Or you're going to say, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know. They just haven't responded to the stuff. I'm working on yet, but they will. They will. We'll stay. I think the latter will happen.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Yeah, John, go ahead. No, no, I agree with you. I agree. I agree. Jake. N to W. I was literally about to ask an X-Men question, but then I saw John's shirt and realized I wouldn't get a valid response anyway. What's the response?
Starting point is 01:37:17 What's the question? First of all, this is a comic book X-Men shirt. So if you're asking me, yeah, see, he's trying to make fun of the fact that if you wear a shirt for something, but that's two different things. Why do some of you willfully ignore nuance in a comment? I don't understand. Also, like the Christian is a loser with so many ridiculously hot women all over, though I've been around long enough to remember the 2007 Harlov stories.
Starting point is 01:37:42 I mean, that was, that was 2007. I'll tell you that, but a man's worked this. He's worked rooms before. But look, I don't think the character's a loser. I think the character is a sap. I think, you know, at first, and he was in love. Yeah. He was in love.
Starting point is 01:37:58 And it was Serena Vincent. How could you not be in love with Serena Vincent? Come on. Christian Medard, 2651. K. Harle, if you should follow what Shane Gillis did with tires and shoot to six episodes season, then shop it out. F1 was great, took older family, they love it. I mean, that's essentially what I want to do.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Here's the difference with myself, Shane Gillis. It's a little bit bigger an audience than I do. Yes. So he can fund a full six, but this is also the same thing, though, as much as I kid about that. You guys are powerful as hell. You always have been. You always have been.
Starting point is 01:38:33 And I know that if you like it, then you're going to want to see more of it. But that's my job. job. That's my job to make sure that you want to see it. You know, so yes, that's ultimately the deal is. I want to try to shoot a season one. And it has to be six episodes because it's probably the idea, right, to do six episodes. It's more realistic to do it that way. And then if it goes, then you do more in season two, probably a smart way to do it. So yeah, I'm going to try to put that together. And it's probably not a stupid way to do it. I'm just going to, my goal first is I have to put the pilot together the script. Once the script is done, I already have it.
Starting point is 01:39:09 director that I want that is going to read it and I already spoke to this person. And as soon as I get that person to read it and then if that person commits to it. Yeah. Then we're off to the races. So we'll see. But as far as F1, yeah, I think everybody is really digging it. And I love that. Tim Sip.
Starting point is 01:39:30 P.S. When Jade made that speech after her match last weekend, including the part of not listening to the haters, I don't know when my first thought was on Roka, but it was. we'll see how Triple H will push her months to come. I think Triple H is a big fan of her is too, right? Of course, or she wouldn't be getting the push. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Yeah. It's, well, listen, I liked the content of what she had to say, but if you're not delivering quality, then you complaining about the haters kind of loses its power. Because people aren't hating on you because they want to hate on you. They're quote unquote hating on you because you're not, delivering a good quality product and you're not getting better right and so I think there's again nuance there's certain haters that hate just for hate there are other critics who are saying
Starting point is 01:40:16 these things because they legitimately are know what they're talking about and to lump everything into hater category because people don't support your haters is nonsense utter nonsense Cisco came to score Roker there you go you guys are supporting himself for 85 as John started going to get 85 can he hit you get 20 minutes left can he hit 100 again but yet another week that he hits 100 no what's a film most people dislike that you love um you know what's trying to performers two three four five and six um not two not two but one three four and five yeah trying to think what's a movie that i love last night last night it's so stupid and i love that merlin and king arthur it's
Starting point is 01:40:58 so darn i love it um i'm trying to the one that i the one that i always bring up is this is where i leave you was a movie that i remember amy rose and at least him will a hated that movie and i love the uh jason bateman one yeah i think isn't it no obamck i think it's no obama i'm not sure i i liked i like i did too that's a good film yeah um so maybe not i i i i'm sure there's one out there that that i'm not thinking of um sean levy directed that one oh i like that movie go pal christian's rapping is the baseball players doing rappers delight in the car with everybody wants them yeah i'm telling you yeah i'm telling you yeah but i'm but i'm but i'm but i'm but i'm but i'm not but i'm not trying to like look look at these fresh bars
Starting point is 01:41:41 i'm putting down uh jake i know anime isn't your thing but the trailer for the new demon slayer movie came out and it's getting and i'm actually hope it does well i i i know that's how big i know demon slayer is i'm very well aware of the ip you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah uh okay Mike Joy. Regals promoted that one. Yeah. Did you see the Kaczynski real? He almost directed Ford versus Verrari with Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt starring.
Starting point is 01:42:08 I would have loved that. I would have liked it too, although I liked what we got. Yeah, mangoes. I love that movie. Plus, I'm glad we didn't get that because it opens up the door for a sequel of Days of Thunder and this. So, yes. Okay, 87 so far.
Starting point is 01:42:25 I know, you know what? 89. I forgot those two that were in registered. Sean Zimmy, rewatch you. Star Wars films in a different order. Four, five, one, two, three, and six had an interesting impact. One, getting the father reveal in Empire, two, getting Anakin's backstory. So let's see, so you watched, I was thinking about potentially do that with Sam.
Starting point is 01:42:45 I think what I'm going to do actually with Sam is Rogue One first. I'm going to do Rogue One, Four, Five, One, Two, Three, Six. And then Paralying Three and Six. I're probably going to do it that way. I appreciate people doing this stuff, right? But I would never do it this way. Because they weren't created to be watched this way. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:43:04 So, like, I respect people, want to do it this way. But, like, for me, the original show that it was created without a thought that they were going to do a secret. Right. But then there were something and they fit together in a way that it's like, because you can't, like, you watch Rogue One right into Episode 4? It's kind of an interesting way to do it. I agree. But, you know, it's true. But even Rogue One has, well, if you watch Android and or into Rogue One, there are some Rogue One things.
Starting point is 01:43:29 you're like, wait a minute. Why would they do this? Why would do that? So, you know, it just opens questions up. But I don't agree with you. Christian unpronounceable. Okay, but seriously, we're doing all these King's stories. Redo the lawnmower man.
Starting point is 01:43:41 They definitely should do. Redo the lawnmower man. 100%. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. Jake Scott, sinners ruined trailers for me, but the teasers are okay. Yeah. Look, I loved sinners.
Starting point is 01:43:53 I've seen it twice. My name is three times. Twice, I think. Love it. Trailer was, it was too much. in truth. Way too much. The Haley thing was, now looking back, it was such a terrible reveal, man.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Why would you reveal that? I knew. From the second the movie starts, I'm like, oh, I know that she turns. Yeah, yeah. Leave that for the movie. Yeah. Monica Robbs, watching F1 today, you know nothing about the sport, but heard great things about the movie, so I'll give it a try. Monica, I'm telling you, I say this about all this, every time,
Starting point is 01:44:21 I'm not a race car fan. Every race car movie, for some reason. I love, I don't know what it is. Days of Thunder, even freaking tell it. of Nights. Rush? Ron Howard. Loved Rush.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Hemsworth and Daniel Broll. I loved Rush. Underrated movie. 100%. Daniel, that movie like two times than two. I'd love that movie. Love that movie.
Starting point is 01:44:44 By the way, shout out to Monica's a selfie. That's a good selfie, Monica. Good energy, good, happy, positive energy. That's good. I love it. Legend MM 600.
Starting point is 01:44:52 I can go back to be a member. So in the description, there's, it says, become a member today. Just click on it. And usually, or even honestly right now another way to do it just go to the grasping at straws video on my channel go to before four o'clock go to click on that now and then it'll ask you to be a member because it's
Starting point is 01:45:10 it's member exclusive right now it won't be at four o'clock um okay so carlton rudder london calling which celebrity when they pass will hit you for me william shatner john love part one of star trek four on oh thanks yeah it seems i'd say stephen Spielberg will probably be a hard one, you know, eventually. But you're saying someone a little bit more, a little older now? I think Schwarzenegger will be a hard one for me. Stallone? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Stallone and Schwarzenegger will be dumb. Especially after those, that documentary series and that movie. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good. That was a good call. Good call. Jake, I stopped watching trailers ever since the Avengers trailer when Hulk caught Iron Man. Cool moment, but ruins the stakes when Tony has the missile.
Starting point is 01:45:58 It's not even that in the Avengers trailer. The Avengers the same for me, but it's Hulk catching Tony. Yeah. I remember when he fell in the theater, I'm going, well, Holt's about to catch him. Yeah, yeah. I couldn't believe that. It's just stupid.
Starting point is 01:46:13 92, John, 92. What a comeback. What a comeback so far. Okay. So remember, guys, Crystal's going to probably come into with Roxy tomorrow and probably try to annihilate Roca, so try to help him out. Alan Smithy, Conan O'Brien should have played Killian, the Running Man host, play him as a total villain.
Starting point is 01:46:32 He'd be a great replacement for Richard Dawson, I don't hate that idea at all. Well, if they were doing a Schwarzenegger version of Running Man, then 100%. I don't think that's what they're doing. Yeah. Who's playing, who's playing that role? I don't know. Is it probably Josh Brolin, I assume, right? Well, I thought George Brolin was playing the head of the studio, the TV studio.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Isn't that the same thing, really? No, because he was the host. Richard Dawson. I know, but I don't know, but I don't know from the story if that's kind of the idea. Maybe the host isn't, in the Schwarzenegger version, the host is like the main bad guy. Maybe the host is just the host in this thing. And the studio head is the main bad guy. Listen to this, Glenn Powell, Josh Brolin, Coleman Domingo, Michael, Sarah, Katie O'Brien, Lee, Pace, Willie Mace, Sean Hayes, David Zez.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Like, that is, and Amelia Jones. That is a hell of a cast, bro. You're right. Edgar Wright's another one. Someone asked me this, by the way, and I can't remember it was a comment that came in because I said that Deney getting bond, right? would elevate people wanting to be in this even more. And someone's like, well, it's James Bond. Everyone's going to be in anyway.
Starting point is 01:47:33 It's like, of course. But that's not my point. My point is now you have bargaining powers if you're the studio. Because there are like when you want to play Bond, yeah, it's James Bond. Okay, great. How much are you going to pay me? You get to play Bond and you get to work with Denise. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:49 So you get both. We have you now. So that's the point. It's not a matter of course. Of course you'd want to play bond. Plus you got to commit. The fact is if you can play Bond and know who's the director, you can play Bond and go, and I get to work with Denise.
Starting point is 01:48:05 So that was my point overall. So real quick, Damon Killian is the character in Running Man that Richard Dawson plays. Dan Killian is the character that Josh Bowling plays. So you might be right. You might be right. It's just combined. Yeah, I think it seems like it. Noah's S-2000.
Starting point is 01:48:21 I hate AI with all my heart, but I'd be lying if I haven't laughed my ass off at the AI Bigfoot Flogs. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, There's going to be stuff. That's, that is what people don't understand. And I made this point, John, two years ago when I started talking about this, I said, there's going to be stuff right now. I was like, no, no, no, no, you can't replace, can't replace. You're going to get to a place because you're going to do what I did the other day when you're going through and like, oh, all right. Well, nobody's really going to make a story about Knights of Republic, are you? And then somebody does a two-hour version of it with music, with actors you want to see in it, with all the kind of emotional levels of me. I'll see, I'll watch you to see, like, what could happen. Right. And you watch it because you want to see. And that's the whole point. They're going to get people to watch it. Yeah, I just finished playing Ghost of Tsushima.
Starting point is 01:49:04 I finally finished it after all these years of having it. And the ending broke me. I was like in tears. And these are, this is up-res stuff. And if you can simulate that kind of energy and AI, good night, man. Good night. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 01:49:18 That's what I'm saying. So, all right, let's see. Okay. So currently at 93. New member here today. Lorena, thank you, Lorena, coming in. Hot. Again, Larina, there's so much that we have right now. We have these live streams that we do exclusively for members.
Starting point is 01:49:33 So make sure you do that. The Capes and Cal's comic book is what I tell. Make sure everybody has access to that. And then we do the unedited reactions. And like I said, for the next 10 minutes, access to the Grasping and Strauss Pilot. Should you want to watch that? Yeah, members who haven't watched it that are watching now,
Starting point is 01:49:48 I want to throw a comment into the grasping of trust pilot right now. Please do so. And here is, DUI champ. I was surprised when you mentioned Californication as inspiration for your project. It's one of my favorite top five shows, not the season with the idiot son as a whole. It's a very special show. The first two seasons that show were incredible. David Docoving was amazing. So yeah, you'll see when
Starting point is 01:50:09 God willing to get this out there, you'll see the comparisons of it when it's out there where that goes from. It's kind of like a character is a bit self-sabotagey in the way that Hank Moody was. Yeah, I like that show too, California. Natasha McClehone, I had a crush on her from Truman Show. Okay. So when she was in California, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:34 It's also that show is the best Maggie. I like Maggie Grace more on that show overall than I do on last. Yeah, yeah, I love that show. I love that show. Matt Krugman, you think Entourage Revival would succeed today? A revival, it depends, I mean, a reboot maybe, like if they changed, I mean, it's kind of ultimately what the studio is. In the studio, it is that in a certain way, but without the movie star involved in it, you could make that format work again, but not those characters and not that type of,
Starting point is 01:51:02 because it's like, it was sex in the city for dudes and culture and the way that the, the way things have changed now, people, people wouldn't respond to it. And the same with that, I don't know if they respond to Californication. And they've repeated it, right? Like Silicon Valley is essentially entourage for nerds. And then ballers was essentially entourage for sports people. They repeated that formula over and over again. three away from 100 today.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Consistently inconsistent, 25. Going to see soups and IMAX, first IMAX sold for me and do and don't, any specifics to IMA screening, sit in the back, sit in the far back. Yep. Sitting the back row, there you go. Good or bad there.
Starting point is 01:51:39 That's it. That's the best, that's the best plan. And in the center. And in the center. If you can, if you can. You can. Well, only because, usually in the very back row, depending on it, you have enough leg room.
Starting point is 01:51:52 I never sit in the middle at all because IP IP and so I know that and I don't like walking and I like to get the hell out of this in the soon as the credits go and I don't like walking past people for a lot of different reasons why don't want to bump in anybody ruin someone else experience plus I don't want to bump needs of people right so I don't want to say hi to everybody either because let's get out of the theater he's to go home he wants to go home yeah uh at outless Kennedy 13 that freestyle I will had better lyrics at 95% of rap songs recently. I challenge you to pull up the lyrics to a few rap songs to compare them. I can't argue with it. I don't listen to it. I'm still listening to, you know,
Starting point is 01:52:29 rap from 1993 on my playlist. So, um, so I can't really argue with you on that because I don't really know. I feel like Otlis is an older person, older person. Could be. Because there's a, I put a whole Kendrick Lamar album is better than anything he just did. Nathan Drake 2.5. 3. Am I the only one who really enjoys Lost World? Uh, that's the second one. I, I've got it. That's a second one, right? Yes. I think Lost World is the same. second one. I only saw it once, and it's one of those movies that I just did not like. The second I saw a kid doing flips and doing gymnast moves to kick dinosaurs, I was like, oh, I'm, I'm out of this movie. I think the mistake was making Jeff Goldblum the lead. The skeptics should never be the lead of something like this. And I kind of worked in its, uh, under its area. Yeah, I haven't seen that movie probably since. Probably since Alan Smithy 9-227. Are you retiring the black cowboy hat rogue? I mean, I haven't worn it in years.
Starting point is 01:53:24 So, yeah, would probably retire. I think I wore it for our Dan show as a joke. But yeah, no, who knows? I mean, maybe I'll bring them back for special occasions. But like, yeah, pretty much, you know, it's time to move on. Come on. Simon section 1170. Have any of you guys heard of the Vietnam movie Finding Jack?
Starting point is 01:53:41 No, a film that was to star a CGI James Dean. Oh, oh, playing a supporting role. Is it still in development? Hell, love the John Roker channel intro. Is there a new channel? Yeah, new intro, new everything has been going on. Yeah. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:53:55 I don't know if it's still in development hell. I have no idea. You? I do not know. It probably is, but I don't know what the end result's going to be because that was novel when it was first announced. Now it seems old hat. So maybe they're falling behind in terms of catching up with this stuff. Spencer, Spencer, remember for one month.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Thank you, Spencer. With all these films getting re-released in theaters, what's an older film you would love to see on the big screen again or for the first time inception oh yeah i'll stay in that i'll say interstellar i would love to see the visuals of interstellar again on an imax screen that would be amazing i'm looking forward to watching that one again because that's another movie then in the first time i saw in the theater i was like i don't know and then i saw in the second one's this is brilliant um i'm gonna i'm gonna sam hasn't seen like any of no one's movies oh wow i'm gonna watch all those with her eventually if you ever get at the damn mc u you know what they're showing is you know that place in
Starting point is 01:54:49 LA, the Cosmo, is it the sphere one that they have in LA? They're showing the Matrix in that kind of, I would love. Yeah, that'd be cool. Julius Wyatt, F1 was fun and Megan 2 is trash, odd double feature. Yeah, I heard Megan 2 wasn't very good. All right, let's see. And this is another one, Daniel, 3-97. I love the members that are sticking around.
Starting point is 01:55:12 On three episodes in the latest episodes of the bear, and I don't care about forward momentum. I enjoy spending time with these characters in the world. Yeah, so Johnson. I'm with you, Daniel. I don't need to see more forward momentum with these characters. I just want to hang out with them and see their real life stuff that they're going through in the show. Yeah. Michael McKenzie, 4726.
Starting point is 01:55:30 Happy Canada tomorrow, guys. Where is your favorite place in Canada or what place do you most want to visit? Halifax is the Boston of Canada. My wife really wants to go to Canada and look at like nature and stuff out there too. For me, I was wanted to go to Toronto. But I always wanted to do a show out there. When we were doing Shmoh, and we looked into it.
Starting point is 01:55:51 It was just, it was hard with the travel and stuff and getting stuff kind of set up there, but I always wanted to do that. Yeah, I would love to have been a heel in Canada. That would have been amazing. I've never been to Canada, so I would have to say I don't have a favorite place,
Starting point is 01:56:05 but I'd love to visit Toronto or Vancouver. I really want to see Vancouver. Al Wrenches 7479. After F1, do you support dams and Idris more as Black Panther? I could see it. I could see it. You, not for you? Yeah, I don't think there was enough in the film to make me feel like he'd be a Black Panther.
Starting point is 01:56:24 But my brother Griffin Schiller would film speak, he tweeted out that he thought he'd be a great choice for James Bond. And that feels more where mine, mine was after seeing F1. So he could do both. Of course, he'd be great as both. But I think Bond would be a great decision for him. I think Aaron Taylor Johnson is still getting it. C-C-Sblack, 1987. Most anticipated film, Doomsday, are the Audit.
Starting point is 01:56:47 for 2026 odyssey which one will make more at the box office uh doomsday yeah i i agree with you question i mean i'm in the odyssey even though doomsday i'm looking forward to it i think the odyssey i'm more excited to see me too uh jake and tvw adding context to my previous demon player post the last movie grace gross over 507 million worldwide had a 21 million domestic opening weekend so having i max and more fans before should do good yeah i'm telling you like that that movie I'm very aware of it. I'm very aware of it. I just have never seen a single frame of that.
Starting point is 01:57:20 But that's just because I'm a stunt anime guy. But a lot of people love, love it. So I'm glad you're excited for that, Jake. Yeah, I want to try that. Armada, what would you call the F1 and Day of the Days of Thunder crossover? Oh, man. F2. Yeah, I guess that's a, someone said it's a lower race, the F2.
Starting point is 01:57:41 They, it's got to be something of, I don't know. You know what? I'm not even going to pretend to try to guess. I have no clue. Space Jesus, 57. What do you think of Sina obliterating Charles Robinson? It was hilarious. Are you predicting a double turn at SummerSland between Sina and Rhodes?
Starting point is 01:57:58 Yes. So this is Roka is predicting, yes. Absolutely. 100% predicting it. Cody's just going to get frustrated and frustrated, and eventually is going to turn a homelander. And you've got to redeem Sina. This heel run, as I predicted, has been horrific for Sina,
Starting point is 01:58:11 other than the pipe bomb promo. So he has to turn face. And people want him to turn face. the pop when he came out was still massive over the weekend. So people love him and they want to love him. I think him turning face and then Cody turning heel out of frustration makes all the sense of the world. And Cody give him back to the business to help a legend get over one last time and help himself become a heel, which would be a lot of fun. I love it. I love it. Cody's kind of boring now as a face.
Starting point is 01:58:35 So he's probably good. I think he's even said as much that he's only got so much left him in his. J.R. Diaz, 2013. In my opinion, John Seen is a lot. the most overrated wrestler of all time. That's how Roker feels, too. Yeah, probably. No offense to John. I know the five moves of doom are important. I like John Sina.
Starting point is 01:58:53 I like him. But as a performer in general, the stupid shoulder block, who's that supposed to hurt? I don't care how big he is. It's so stupid. Every time he does this, like, it's,
Starting point is 01:59:06 it's, I've never understood how that move, we got over. It's like, let's get out of here. Let me know. Yeah. When they say he's the greatest of all time, I lose my mind. I lose my mind.
Starting point is 01:59:19 There's still great technical. Not even close. C.T.5LV. The Project Hail Mary trailer was great, but I was glad that I already read the book. Avoiding the trailers is the right choice. Too much spoiled in it. Yeah, I want nothing to do with it. I saw the trailer.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Nothing has been spoiled for me other than this guy is trying to do what he's been assigned to do. That's the only thing. And I guess there's something at the end. But like, it didn't bother me. And I'm still looking forward. to the film. So, yeah. Noah S. 2000. I disagree. I disagree. Thank you for your thoughts on your love. Fair enough, Noah.
Starting point is 01:59:50 And I love, again, I love the conversation, my friend. Unheard Sirens Incorporated. Watched K-pop Demon Hunters last night. I can't believe it was that good. Highly recommend, Christian, your daughters love it. You don't have to say that already because I've already watched it five times. My daughter, my little one has watched it. But she wanted to watch it again the other day.
Starting point is 02:00:10 My oldest has watched it for it. I haven't seen it yet. I have not watched it yet. And I got Luke who just asked you has been saying, you got to react to it. I'm probably, if Sam's supposed to come here tonight around six, I don't know if I'd be able to get to it in time, but I was going to react to it and then,
Starting point is 02:00:25 you know, put it up later on, but I don't know if I can get to it in time. Okay, let's see. Joe for show, speaking of Comic-Con, anyone knows someone to get last-minute tickets. I'm so out of that loop now. So out of that loop.
Starting point is 02:00:39 No, I don't know anyone. Nathan Drake comments by his correct name, cocaine donkey. That was the, you remember that? Of course I remember that. That hurt my brother deeply. No, it didn't. No, it didn't. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:00:51 It's not fair. So he embraced the name and loved it, by the way, when it came out. But then the guys are respected journalists. Exactly. And so when the audience, at that point, that was Schmo's at its height. We're doing 100,000, 150,000 views an episode. And you got people. tweeting him, call him cocaine donkey when he's interviewing, you know, high profile
Starting point is 02:01:14 actresses. He came to me, he goes, brother, I love it. But you got to, you got to tell him it's, it can't do it anymore. It's just too much. I get, I love it and I appreciate the love, but I can't, I just can't do it. And I was like, I understand. So then we, um, we, so we, mentioned that. So we just, we just destroyed it. We just destroyed it. Yeah. Mike Joyce, I'll send more support of a Roca is too mean to, to, James Gunn. 108 Faroca. I have to balance the universe.
Starting point is 02:01:47 You guys are too in love with him. Yeah. Corn Emperor. Constance, especially when they go on for days. Yeah, but that's the normal stench. I'm telling me, none of you want to go through what I went through. None of you. None of you.
Starting point is 02:01:58 I've never, I've hit, the conceded just hit me before. And I go, oh, brutal. To my knees. Corn Emperor, Pacific Room 2, missed Del Toro and Hunnam badly. Yeah, I remember that not liking that movie. I remember speaking. We brought up Erica Ishi not too long ago on the show. Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 02:02:14 Yeah. And she was in Collider, and her and I got a friendly disagreement about, about Pacific Room, too. I think she really enjoyed it. And I was like, it was not good. I did not write that one. Jake. And during the Nicole Kimman AMC ad,
Starting point is 02:02:28 where she's walking into empty theater by myself, the guy sitting next to me said, must be a small white screening. That's good. That's good. That's a good joke. It was a good joke. look jlm 219 what are the chances they pay
Starting point is 02:02:43 robert deading junior 100 million only cover his face as a comic correct doom he's going to cover his face he's going to be i guess i think i think 10% of the movie maybe 15 of doomsday you're going to you're going to see his face maybe yeah i don't see you're going to say you're going to say the majority of the movie he's going to have a thing over his face i think see your worst you'll see him a lot more if there's stunts he's definitely going to have a cover over his face yeah i'll even say this to be fair because i'm saying this for one. Okay. I might even hurt something along those lines.
Starting point is 02:03:12 That's all I'm saying. I might have heard something. That's all I'm saying. Uh, Grimber. Canber bear. Almost forgot to use this again, but let's go. Let's get Roka that win. Have a great thing. 11. 11. 11 for Roeck and starting out strong. Jay Wigs 82. I'm happy for the normies that enjoyed and loved F1 before us true hardcore fans of the sport that movies and insult to F1. Now, this is a different
Starting point is 02:03:34 conversation. Disney plus just awful. That's the first negative thing I've heard about the movie at all, right? But coming from that perspective, yeah, yeah, I can get it, right? Like, I get it. Like, I'm, you could, you could tell me that's 100% accurate, exactly how the sport is.
Starting point is 02:03:51 Right. Or you can tell me 100, 180 degree difference, saying, no, no, no, you know what? It stinks and nothing is accurate. I wouldn't know the difference. I just watched it for the movie itself. So I can understand that. You should see me when I watch Ted Lassau.
Starting point is 02:04:06 I want to put my head through a wall. It gets so much wrong. about the Premier League and English football. I mean, it just drives me insane how bad they are with this stuff. And so you have to let that go. Well, that's the whole point. Like, like, Warrior is one of my favorite. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:20 Yeah. Movies, sports movies. Maybe one of my favorite movies of all time. I know there's a lot of stuff inside of it. I actually thought it was one of them at that point in time, 2011, one of the only movies that took MMA as a serious sport at all, right? Yeah. I mean, Dana White hates that movie.
Starting point is 02:04:38 Yeah. hates it hates it because it was like no you wouldn't have all those fights in the same night and all this too and it's like as a movie though and with and it's still treating the sport but he's coming from it from a way different perspective than i am you know so like i get um cowboy's fan i need to am i the only one who thinks ironheart's great and neither the third set of episodes to make it last longer rather than keeping it only the six i'm not going to give you great i'm not going to give you great i'm going to give you i'm interested no i'm actually about to watch it the rest of it today to see how it is for the rest. And I'm curious that.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Apparently closes out strong, so I'm excited to see that. Yeah, yeah. I think the show is average. Yeah, I agree with you. I think it got better in the third episode, but those first two were rough, man, rough. It took a while. It took a while. The third episode was good. I like the third episode, but I was like...
Starting point is 02:05:26 United Covers of Benetton gang, the Hood is in charge of a joke. Terrible. They are terrible. But she's good. The AI is good. but yeah that crew is they should have kept eric and andre i don't know why they didn't kept eric hendo tv have you guys watched superman lowest yet it's the best superman adaptation no i haven't my uh my friend is a big producer on that show and he one of the big sources of frustration
Starting point is 02:05:52 our friendship is that i have not watched that show because we've got to watch that and my adventures with superman as well um jo for show you think there'll be some brutal-ass beatings in superman something that would make you say oh damn I think they will be. Yeah, I think there's going to be some bigger emotional moments in there because Gunn can go that route. I mean, look at the Guardian Street the way that he goes, yeah. I don't want to open the door to this drama, right?
Starting point is 02:06:16 But just about every clip we've seen of the film that has been released, he's upset. Like, you know, he's yelling at Jane. And I'm not saying, the Superman gets upset. I'm not saying, so don't paint me with that. But he yells at Lex Luther in the thing there. And the most recent one, he's yelling at the robots for not feeding his dog. for not feeding criminals i didn't see that yeah i think there's more darkness than you guys are
Starting point is 02:06:41 maybe sensing from the movie like everyone's caught up to say it's going to be this inspirational hopeful thing i think there's more darkness in the film that people think and so that's what i'm sensing so there might be brutal ass beatings we will see al rencia 7479 transformers quality fell off after their first one fact yeah nobody's are in that al it still made a billion dollars bad every fellow at the first one during the first one uh cat mom for jedi if the ai gate opens with paul walker they were going to have movies with dead stars in the remake world will be more and more sad to say that people would not care it yeah it's that's going to happen when they started talking about this stuff there's going to be another diehard movie with a young bruce willis yeah there will be
Starting point is 02:07:22 yeah yeah i could see that um yeah bat mat 11 broken we all know you won't wear a superman's shirt to the movie but what about getting a Superman tattoo and just covering up with a plain shirt do that a big old big old you're going to do that no i'm not going to get a student man tattoo i don't even have a tattoo i would never even you can do it you can do it come on do you have any tattoo no i don't believe in that stuff you don't believe in it i don't like even when i was doing crossby they cross for three years and everyone's getting sleeves and this was like the height of crossband i'm not doing that man i love you guys well i'm not to do it joe for show nix fan Chris and yes, yeah. Is LeBron on his way to New York?
Starting point is 02:08:04 There was all those rumors that, you know, back in the day, he was going to try. They were trying hard to get him when you were during the Miami stuff. They were trying hard to get him. So maybe he tries to give it one run to, you know, bring that championship to New York. I mean, that would put him on, he's already on, you know, he's in that conversation, you know, of. And if he wins one for New York, I don't know, but you think he's, gives a shot? I think him opting into
Starting point is 02:08:33 the contract means that they're going to trade. He's working on getting traded. And they made it very clear like, we understand Lakers rebuilding, but Bill Brown wants to win now. So I think he opted in to make it easier to trade him. A lot of people have been floating this Dallas Mavericks possibility. Him reuniting with Kyrie and
Starting point is 02:08:49 Anthony Davis. F me. If they do that, I think they have a one-year shot at winning the title. We're going to hear again from Wednesday. Busy B. Happy Monday. Thank you, Busy Bee. That rebirth discussion reminded me how disappointed it was after watching 2014 Godzilla. Okay, characters
Starting point is 02:09:05 but little and no Godzilla. 100%. 100% because it was so detailed. Plus the fact it was during the height of Breaking Bad, you know, right around the time it ended and Brian Cranston was marketed and he's in a movie for like seven seconds. Yeah, good point. Yeah. Corn Emperor,
Starting point is 02:09:21 almost 750. Don't forget to like, yes, please. Over 750. You know, 776 and 115 people watch donated so forth today. Grim Bear, Godzilla movies like the original and minus one, have outstanding characters and story, but most are basically
Starting point is 02:09:38 WWE. Just want to see the big guys brawl. Hey, can I take a break? I got to use this restroom real quick. I got to be like 30 more, so I want to come back. All right, come on. Come on back. Let's see. Can you go solo? Take me off the screen. Yeah, yeah, I can do that. All right, so let's see. Are you going to cast Bobby Gucci in your show you're working on? There's a potential, there was a role,
Starting point is 02:10:00 that and you know he that he wouldn't care you'd laugh about it um there's a role that would have been great for him but it's going to go to John Kaiser um but there would have been a real for him it'll be a role for him eventually but that but that particular role is going to go to Kaiser uh let's see corn emperor how close okay to $100 $100 we're at one 17 now or 117 so you guys are doing really good for Roca today again but we'll see if, you know, we'll see what happens to Roxy tomorrow. Noah S. 2000. Ghost was such a great story slash game.
Starting point is 02:10:37 Check out God of War 2018 in Ragnarok, if you haven't. It broke me, such phenomenal acting and writing. I hear great things about all that stuff, too. It got a war, by the way, is still working on me because this is Ron Moore working on that TV show. I'm very curious to see how that's going to work. I'm very curious to see how that show is going to work. Because that's, that could be great. But I hear, and that's the other thing is, like, I wish that some of these games would have come out like 20 years ago.
Starting point is 02:11:00 I actually played them because I can't get as locked in. I'm not enough time for it to play these games, but I hear great things about all those games. What's the Star Trek show that you're doing? So I think this is the one for, and I'll let John answer it when he gets back, but Cinepals, they break down a lot of different materials for, or course episodes, actually back right now.
Starting point is 02:11:20 All right. Perfect timing. So what's the Star Trek show you're doing? It's Cinepals, right? Cinephiles. Cinefiles. I don't really you have to joke. Cinepals is a chance.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Sorry, sorry, sorry, different town. That's Jabby. That's Jabby Kauai's channel. Oh, right, right, right, right. No, the Cineophiles is my YouTube, is my, sorry, it's my podcast. I've been doing for nine years and my friend Steve Morris. Right. We average about 150 to 200,000 downloads a week, a month.
Starting point is 02:11:48 And we are covering Star Trek 4. And we've covered all the Star Trek films except for Star Trek 4 and 5, so we're remedying that. And Scott Mans is our special guest. So you can find that wherever you download podcasts. Yeah. The Cine Files. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:00 Go, pal. I didn't expect ghosts which seem to be samurai and Mongols and not Russo Japanese war. Yeah. They're going to make that movie, right? Oh, I hope so. I mean, they're bringing in the sequel, Ghost of Yotei with Eric is the lead. Nathan's 84. So we got Spaceball's Naked Gun came out.
Starting point is 02:12:18 What other 80s comedy remake would you like to see? I want Major League. Do not touch Major League. You can't happen to. And that's not really a sponsor. If you want to do like a thing that, I mean, there's no original. cast members say let's you do tom berenger again but you have to do the actual major league if you're going to do and get all the teams again the first one is so great the second one is farts but i would say
Starting point is 02:12:40 for me in the vein of those comedies um police academy i don't know if the environment is right for police academy but i would i would consider that one for sure yeah that'd be a lot of fun poor emperor what movie would you each would you each screen for all us fans what do you mean you mean as far as if we had a if we were to do a big like thing together yeah probably warrior tell you that I've been trying um rocky rocky for um yeah rocky four yeah rocky four's a good one too yeah okay let's say go pal i watched the first episodes of entourage a couple months ago really stuck in my head dreams that night no it's a great show yeah uh nathan john don't let ellis make you hang up the outlaw.
Starting point is 02:13:30 It's just been in motion for a bit. I was just joking because Ellis the other day was talking about. He doesn't never need to go back and do Shmoyle. hilarious. Carlton Rudder, John, do a vlog up on the West Coast to BC and Canada. Oh, British
Starting point is 02:13:44 Columbia. Yeah, I got to find my way to Canada for sure. Yeah. I don't want to travel leave the country right now. You don't let you back in. F1 is like a much better version of 2001's driven. How dare you? That's That movie sucked.
Starting point is 02:13:59 You know I've never seen that, driven? Oh, it's so bad. I've never seen it. Stelonia. Ryan Ferris, would Days of Thunder Formula One be too Pass and Furacy? I don't know. If you have like Kaczynski doing it, who knows?
Starting point is 02:14:12 That could be fun. Yeah. Call Romada. Call Roca's Road, not here too tired to move. Fair enough. Armada, years of thunder or formula of thunder. There you go. I'm in.
Starting point is 02:14:25 Okay. I'm in. Please do a dynamite reaction with, Black Dynamite reaction with your best friend with Sam. That's from Sundal Stryker. I haven't, you know, I don't even know if I've seen Black Dynamite, but I hear it's amazing. It's Michael Jai White, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:40 Maybe Dalton Leoprich, Warfare is still number one for me this year. How about you? I mean, F1's up there. F1 and sinners are both in the conversation for me right now. I agree with that. All three of those, yeah. Batman, 11. Ideas for Days of Under F1 crossover, Days of Thunder, Apex or Formula or Thunder.
Starting point is 02:14:58 Sure. I'm in. I'm in. C.C. Black, 1987. When is Sam watching Season 2 of Loki? It's crazy. Loki is saving Day from Stark. So right now we're in Iron Heart. Then we're going to get to Guardians' Christmas special leading to Guardians 3, and then I think it's Loki Season 2. I watch some of your Loki. You guys are in such pain.
Starting point is 02:15:18 In the Loki, in the, uh, sorry, the Loki. The She-Hawk one. You got you're in such pain. It was brutal. Doug Developer, 8,850. please rank these villains by their intelligence osmendius dr june lex luthier i don't know when who osmendius who's who is that that's the watchman the guy at the end oh right right right i don't remember it well enough um intelligence i would put ozimandias above luther and doom probably probably luther than doom i'll let you do that um yeah i don't i can't answer it of corn emperor i'll skip ironhard just watch sam's reaction fair enough although that was that was our lowest that was our lowest
Starting point is 02:15:52 watched reaction with Sam was Ironheart. Oh, crazy. Considering it was a new show, I thought it would be a lot more. JLM 219. Don't tease, Christian. What's the skinny on the mastium? All I hear is, listen, you might see him a little less than you think in that one. That's all I hear.
Starting point is 02:16:09 Optimus Chunt, Climb, 6267. What's up, guys? Do you think both the final trailer of Fantastic 4 won over enough doubters to be a smash the box office? Well, certainly, I wasn't a doubter, but I wasn't like looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it every the last trailer. Yeah. I didn't know there were doubters, man.
Starting point is 02:16:27 This looks like it's going to be gangbusters. But if there were, I hope that trailer, because that last trailer was the best one. Yeah. Do you know my favorite Jeff Snyder quote is of the last week, though? Please. What the hell is a Silver Age Superman? My favorite.
Starting point is 02:16:42 He's like, how am I supposed to know what that is? He's speaking for hundreds of millions of things. I mean, he's not wrong as far as like, you know, I know he's not wrong. Marketing on that. It's like, you know, but you're marketing. But to be. fair. My response
Starting point is 02:16:54 to Jeff Steiner at that point would be like, they're aiming, they know they're not going to hit you with that. They're going after the audience that does know that to get them excited about it. It's not a big enough audience, though. And I don't like that some of the people who represent this audience try to shame other people for, you know, it's Silver Age.
Starting point is 02:17:10 What are you an idiot? You didn't like Silver Age? These people are so dumb. It's Silver Age. Shut the F up, man. You don't know how many people? Like, I could hold in my hand the amount of people that know about Silver Age Street, man. At the levels that you think they do. too. So the shame Arkell to the previous commenter's point while watching F1 and seeing some a pitch strategy, I started to wonder, okay, all of this can't be allowed. Yeah. I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 02:17:33 that to me, if I was going in that mindset, then yeah, I'd be out to, but I was watching it as a move. Yeah, they took they took liberties, but it was yeah. I mean, top gun maverick, same thing. So, come on. The fact that those, you don't even know what country they're going into. It wouldn't even still be in the Navy if he pulled a quarter of the stuff. Right. Right. Because if you be not sure if I looked carefully, but do you are, offer memberships for a UAP channel. I do. The thing with the memberships over there, though, Busy B is that it's more so about,
Starting point is 02:17:59 it's not as active as this, meaning that it's more for support over there on that channel. And for what we do is that we, the biggest thing that we do over on the UAP channel is, we take a bunch of questions and then I do an exclusive video at the end of the month with some of the questions that are coming from members. So it's not, it's not, there's more here that is offered to be completely honest. Okay.
Starting point is 02:18:20 I think there's only a few left as we are now they should be on the channel as the alien i could be on that channel's the alien yeah sure paul hitchcock 2543 breaking christian prefers omarps willie mays hey stop that to wesley snaves snarckin confirm stop don't you dear and i like omarps but it was just like it was just like it's one of the many things that just the movie was just oh i agree that was a terrible sequel the shame arkell i'll say f1 and other motorsport films i've seen maybe interesting following f1 and motor gp i had to google what dirty air means and i'm hooked now okay yeah see that that's where like i didn't i don't I first foot second said, do I think I could watch this?
Starting point is 02:18:54 It's like, but they don't follow it the same way. It's like, you just see cars zipping around the place. I don't know. Well, that's what they, they didn't do F1 for the F1 fans. They did F1 to, you know, kind of make it more appealing to more of the regulars and the casuals to get them into F1, you know? And so that's, that's another goal of the movie. Peel of these compared to back to the miners, Major League 2 was a masterpiece. I agree.
Starting point is 02:19:20 I agree. Last one for now. Nathan 84. Come on. Major League 3 could be Charlie Sheen's comeback. I don't think so. Anyway, listen. All right. John hit 123. What a day. It's a big day. It's a big day. Now you're pushing it on Roxy again. Will Roxy get two in a row or Roca take the victory? Well, look, see, they're not stopping yet. Go, pal. What's a franchise where you came in later than filled in later?
Starting point is 02:19:49 I started with Police Academy 4, recorded off TV, then rented the earlier ones. Oh, it's a good question. I always think about this. Like, which was one that I saw? I'm like, oh, man, I got into this late. Everybody else? I don't know. I don't remember that.
Starting point is 02:20:04 I'm sure. And the answers, I'm sure that there are some. Hmm. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, TV shows are easier for me to, to. Right.
Starting point is 02:20:16 But that one, I don't know. I don't know about that. Yeah, it's tough. Sorry. Sorry. This is somebody who just watched my pilot. Never understood the phase ruining my childhood when it came to remakes, reboots. Can't people just, you know, not watch it?
Starting point is 02:20:29 The OG doesn't get erased 100%. But it's still something to say. Like there literally is a line that says something along those lines in my pilot about that. Shea Markell. John, am I wrong? F1 and Driven had similar character premises and driver dynamics, right? Are there any movies that made you guys interested in a sport? Yeah, but brother, it's a typical sports movie.
Starting point is 02:20:49 So there's a lot of dynamics that are very similar to sports movies regardless of whether it's F1 or not. So I don't think it's unique that's copying. Like people accused sinners of copying Dust Till Dawn, which I thought was ridiculous. So yeah. I would say 10 cup for golf. Oh, that's a good one.
Starting point is 02:21:07 I would probably, shit, I don't know if there's a movie that made. I mean, hell, Rocky boxing. Yeah, but I was,
Starting point is 02:21:14 you know, my dad grew me up on boxing before. Yeah. Yeah. But that's when I jumped in too late. I didn't see my first Rocky film was Rocky 3. And then I went back and watched Rocky 1. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:21:26 Yeah, because of Mr. T, I was like, and the A team, I got to see this. Right. Edit the movies. I'm not talking about box office and people not going to the theater. I know that many people have gripes have nothing to do with the 20, 30 minutes of ads now in trailers before the movie. Yeah, I mean, it's true. It's like there people do have, there's a lot of ads. I mean, that's a lot.
Starting point is 02:21:48 It's a lot. I mean, maybe that's how they're paying for it. I don't know. All right, John, we did it. 127. That's pretty damn good. 127 for you. Real quick, what can they find on the outlaw?
Starting point is 02:22:01 Sorry, John Roca Channel. The John Roker channel starting next week. Please head over there now. Well, it's called the Outlaw Nation. YouTube.com slash John Roka says and come take a look at all the stuff we got going on there on the channel. Everything going on. I mean, I've got my reaction already for that new. Lord Miller trailer is up today and maybe I'll do the reaction today or tomorrow for Christians
Starting point is 02:22:21 and out of theater reaction on Wednesday for Jurassic Park so or Jurassic World. So come and hang out with me all that and geek buddies, hot mic, Jedi Way and spill the tequila all going down this week. And thanks, Christian. And great to see everybody on Monday. Thanks for all the super chats, everybody. Yes. Thank you guys so much.
Starting point is 02:22:36 And listen, once again, guys, so write us. Thank you to John. Thank you to all you guys. So listen, I'm going to turn this stream off. and I'm really asking for the 730 people that are watching right now and for people who are watching on the replay, please go and check out the pilot. Put your comments in there, put your likes in there, put your thoughts in there. Like I said, this was from 2007 of what we did back then.
Starting point is 02:23:00 I'm looking to try to do something a lot different, higher production budgets, do all that stuff, but this is just something that we did that we were proud of. And I hope that you guys enjoy it, check it out. and you can see some friendly faces they have been seen in quite a while. Peter, hey, fellas. Hope you guys enjoyed the upcoming fourth.
Starting point is 02:23:21 Check out Novakain. Show is pretty cool. And San Diego looks pretty sweet. I have to see Novakame, but I heard really good things about it. It's like 27 minutes. The one that we put up on the channel, it's about 27 minutes.
Starting point is 02:23:33 And as soon as I click, end stream, I'm going to make it public. So I hope that I can get your support over there. And look, share it if you can do that. I also wanted to get the kind of, it was one of those things that I, when we did it, it was right near there was a writer strike.
Starting point is 02:23:46 We didn't have a chance to put it out in an audience. We didn't get enough people to see it. So now if, you know, 17 years later, people have a chance to see it and it does really well. If it does 10,000 views, I'll be happy. Um, but there you go. Thanks guys. I appreciate you.
Starting point is 02:24:00 And we'll see on the flip side. Apple podcast, Spotify, anywhere podcast or found. Thank you all brand new members. We'll see you soon. Bye.

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