The Kristian Harloff Show - Snow White Underperforms at the Box Office?! Was Online Backlash a factor?

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

Disney's live-action Snow White has officially hit theaters… but the numbers aren't exactly what the Mouse House was hoping for. Kristian Harloff and John Rocha are breaking it all down on today's show! Did the online controversy and social media backlash play a role in Snow White falling short of expectations? Was the movie's reception doomed from the start, or was it a case of audiences just not connecting with another remake? The guys discuss the latest reports showing Snow White pulling in just $43 million domestically and $44.3 million internationally, landing the film at an $87.3 million global total—far under the $65M domestic target. We'll talk about Deadline's comparison to Dumbo, the CinemaScore, and the film's polarizing reactions. Plus, did Rachel Zegler's casting really hurt or help in certain markets? And what about those claims that the film overperformed in conservative counties despite the "Snow Woke" criticism? But that's not all! Kristian and Rocha also cover: 🦇 The Batman sequel update! Matt Reeves' follow-up is now officially listed as an "Untitled Batman Film" under the Sci-Fi/Fantasy genre. Could this mean we're getting more fantastical elements in the BatVerse? Clayface? Mr. Freeze? We're speculating. All this and more on The Kristian Harloff Show! Join the conversation in the comments and let us know what you think about Snow White, The Batman, and the MCU's next big moves. 👊 Don't forget to like, subscribe, and hit that notification bell for more deep dives and movie talk every week! #SnowWhite #Disney #KristianHarloff #JohnRocha #TheBatman #Avengers #MCU #MovieNews OUR SPONSORS: DRAFT KINGS: New players can get FIVE HUNDRED CASINO SPINS ON A FEATURED GAME! Just sign up with code HARLOFF and wager a minimum of five dollars to receive FIVE HUNDRED CASINO SPINS ON A FEATURED GAME. TRADE COFFEE: Trade is exclusively offering our listeners 40% off your first order at https://www.drinktrade.com/KRISTIAN STITCH FIX: Make style easy—get started today at https://www.StitchFix.com/KHS  

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Cummage is a registered trademark of Cummins, Inc. Graham and Hemmy are registered trademarks of FCAUS LLC. Snow White and the seven dwarfs. Well, I guess it's just Snow White, no matter what it was. Bomb pretty bad. Pretty disappointing box office for Snow White. And we're going to talk about it, man. I'm going to break down what really was the root of this disaster.

Because you can say, well, it wasn't too bad. I made X amount of dollars. Yeah, but is it going to sustain and for the amount of money that it costs and reshoots and all that stuff? seems like a pretty big miss for Disney. So we'll get into it. We'll break that down. There's other stuff.

There's things going on with the Batman. It's still untitled at the moment. There's other things going on with, well, we'll break down some more of the box office, what's coming out, those things and more on today's episode with myself and John Roker. So make sure you click that subscribe button. Let's get into it, everybody. It's going to be a fun show here today, me and John Roker. Let's do it.

Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen. It is Monday, and joining me on the Monday show, as always is John Rooka. What's up, John? How are you? How are you? How are you? Good, man. Not too bad. Not too bad. But look, we had this box office. I'm going to jump right into it, man. Wow. Wow.

You're going to jump right into it because this is a big story. The comments are already going nuts. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So let's get, let's break down the story. Even this, look at this. Snow White box office, more slats. Sleepy than happy. That's from CNN.

This Christian Harloff ran out of the gym, endorphins. This is the thing I have to get used to here on a Monday morning. All right. I like it. I like it. I'm right. Disney Snow White is a big budget live action retelling of the classic fairy tale. Opened up to a sleepy $43 million at the domestic box office this weekend and a slew of controversy.

Early industry predicted that Snow White cost around 270 million. Yikes. would take in 48 to 58 million in its first weekend, despite falling short of expectations. Snow White's surpassed focus features Black Bag and Disney's Captain America, Brave New World, and could see steady growth in the weeks ahead. It is a Disney film.

It settles in. There's not going to be a lot of family competition, says David A. Gross, who runs a movie consultly franchise. This weekend is the locomotive that pulls the train. So, though the remake of the Disney's 1937 classic, top the box office, It felt well short in comparison to Disney's Cinderella, which was released about a decade ago on March 13, 2015. The controversy-free Cinderella grossed 91.8 million in its opening weekend against a 138.3 million budget.

Both figures adjusted for inflation, but the Disney princess genre has had varying levels of success, said Com's score. Analyst Paul D. Garbedian, hell yeah, in part because of shifting box office interest and the oversaturation of remand. There may be a bit of fatigue on these live-action remakes of classic animated films, he said. It also didn't help. Snow White garnered attention for all the wrong reasons ahead of its release. The musical and children's movies somehow found itself in the crosshairs of a culture war over the titular casting of Rachel Zegler, American actor of Colombian descent, as well as the Israeli Hamas War with the casting of Gal Gadot, who had mandated service in the Israeli army as the evil queen, were they reimagining of the Seven Dwarst Magical Creatures,

drawing criticism from Game of Thrones actor Peter Dinklage. It's likely that Zig was casting hurt Snow White and caused the distraction, said gross. He said some audiences prefer new and original storylines highlighting diverse characters rather than changing characters for remakes. However, it's unlikely the controversies reached to film's core audience, families and young girls, said Sean Robbins, director of analytics of Fandango, and founder and owner of box office theory. The casual movie going crowds sees a preview for a trailer or they hear about a movie and they decide whether they want to see it based on how they feel about it, he said. yada yada yada yada yada okay that's that's that's good we get it um i disagree with a lot of that okay i'll tell you what go ahead and we've both seen and we both said the same thing the movie itself

the movie itself it's like some people are going to point to this and say well it did didn't do well because it was a shit movie i disagree do i think do i think it was a a great movie no do i think it was just like a fine remake yeah it was okay problem was people wanted this movie to fail because Rachel Ziegler was the problem in this in this movie before the movie came out. She was she's good in the movie. She's good in the movie. She can sing about the movie. She's the best thing about the movie. The problem is she has made it's what you and I talk about all of the time. Yeah. You are making a $230 million movie. You are making the movie for everyone on your political or against your political side.

You can make a $20 million movie for anybody you want on your side of the aisle because you just have to aim to that. If you are doing a big budget movie like this, you have to be cognizant of it. You have to know what's happening. And there are times, I think, that Rachel Ziegler's 23 years old.

We've all been in our early 20s going, oh, I'm full of it, who's taken on the world, this and that. But you have a responsibility as the lead actress. You have to, and people are going to go, oh, she can say whatever she want. Not if you're running a business. You're running a business. And I think that she hurt this movie tremendously.

And at first, I actually agreed with what the point was here about, well, not all families it's going to reach because it's been so politicized. It's been covered on every mainstream thing. It's been covered everywhere. So families that were going to take on, let's say on the right side of the aisle that were going to take their kids to see it. They see the story. They said, no, we wait for Disney Plus, or we don't see it at all.

And it's become a political statement as much as anything else. Because is the movie great? No. Is it horrendous? No. But there's no way. If a movie's subpar and it's just not likable to a lot of people right now. And that's your lead.

So you're in trouble. I really do think that she's a major, major cause for this movie doing as poorly as it. Yes, I agree. to an extent. Like I agree that her comments, which I will not give her, like I will not tell the truth about it. Those comments were pretty arrogant,

pretty condescending, no matter how many people want to paint it. When you go, you're talking about, you're talking about the original. This is the only thing. This is the only thing people are holding on to, okay?

It's the only thing. And she has done many other interviews, many other comments, many other fan events to try to make up for that mistake on the red carpet. She has done it, right? But they were like, oh, but she said, you know, that's weird, weird. And so those are little comments that were condescending.

She was judgmental of a classic that people enjoy from back in the old days. And I get it. She was trying to put out that this was more of a feminist take. She was much more of a lead. And she had more to do than to sit around waiting for the dwarves and waiting for a prince to kiss her. I totally get it. There's nothing wrong with that. You want to make your female lead a little more active.

You want to give her more agency. We're all grownups. I think we can handle that. that for God's sakes. The problem, though, and I think this is where there's a little bit of a falseness in this premise, is that people that took that, and for their own benefit, ran with it, goaded their rabid, angry, anti-woke, anti-switching race for the lead characters, things, and they milked it. I mean, I was watching a Pierce Morgan clip on TikTok, and I'm like, why is Pierce Morgan, even having a conversation about this with almost all adult men.

Can I give you the answer? Can I give the answer? No, sure. Let me finish about the screeching about something that is so not a big deal, but people make, they want to make a big deal out of it because they stoke the culture war fire. Same thing with Gal Gadot. They stoke the culture war fire. She isn't, she wasn't out here like wearing Israeli flags on every dress and clapped.

But because of her past comments and her being involved with this, they drew. drag the political stuff in it because that's how they're going to get clicks, likes engagement, and money. And so to me, there's a bit of, there's a bit of falsity on the premise, but I think there is a bit of truth in the criticism. But I think that somewhere in the middle, as we've said, is where the truth is. But go ahead, but go ahead. I just, you pretty much said it is it's you gave them ammo. Mm-hmm. You did. Because the difference for me with Galgado, not taking a stance on what she said or not,

right, right, right. This is where she is from. So you're, if you're against where she is from, then obviously you're not going to agree with her. But it's almost like if there was something going on, if you're in a different country and something happens to America and you're pro-American and someone is against your stance, you're going to get into it. Canada's booing our national anthem. But it's where you're from.

And so she's going, and again, not taking a stance on anything that she said. I'm telling you that it's from where she is from. Yeah, I am. Rachel Ziegler is saying things in general about, you know, the movie. you're making this movie and you're not we're not in 2016 anymore 2017 where like it's like everyone is going towards this one particular all far left side of the aisle here and everybody it's like too but it's also look it there is as we've

mentioned many times over the message and the and this way people overuse and they don't really understand what woke means the the understanding behind what you're trying to accomplish with woke when that came out of the including inclusion and trying to include people and having everyone equal opportunities. If you're against that, that's ridiculous. The problem is, like anything else, what studios did and everybody else did was, well, A, we got to capitalize on this. And we now, is that what they want?

Well, then then make that person that and then do that person that. That's what they want, right? Let's make money. Overcorrected. That's part one. Part two is, well, we don't want to get yelled at Twitter on Twitter. We don't want to get yelled at. So let's make that person that and that person can be that.

You're doing a disservice to that person because that person now is only getting yelled at because they were cast in this. And then there's other times because they're just cast because they're fucking good actors. Yeah. And you're going to get shit on because of all the other stuff, the forcing it down our throat stuff. Right. And when you're doing that, when you're forcing it, forcing it, forcing it, it's like people are like, enough. Give me a break. Like everything is this or everything is that.

And it takes away from the legitimacy when it actually really like, oh, that person will, was cast because it's just tremendous. And I'm not saying that has anything new, Rachel Zegler, as far as being cast here. But I'm just saying that, like, when you're out there going, well, you know, we don't want to, uh, we, we don't want to have the snow white, which everybody loved. Nobody until this interview right now had a problem with some white ever. I agree. But if you did, there was a creepy weirdo following her around.

If you like that, we're not living in that time anymore. And you're a fucking weirdo too. She didn't say that, but that's how people took it. That's how people took it. And she's going weird. you have a stalker and this and that and i'm telling you and i were texting about this i'm and i don't think anyone's going to give a shit about spoilers there's bandits in this movie that are unnecessary i am convinced those bandits those seven those seven bandits were the dwarves

and then they said oh everybody's losing their minds here uh let's we don't want to cut them out and and get them fired and get lawsuits and stuff or whatever it might be let's just make them bandits and they made them bandits instead those were the seven dwarves there's no there's no doubt I don't know because I watched Carmody and Mayo, these two British guys who review stuff, and I watched their review over the weekend. And they got an email from someone on the production. And that person, they couldn't verify it. They didn't look the guy up to see if he was really on the production.

But the guy said one of the, he was upset about some of the narratives that had come out about the film that were false. And he said, one of the false narratives was that the bandits were supposed to be the dwarves. And he said, no, again, not verified or anything. So this could be true, could not be true. He said that like the bandits were always in the movie and the dwarves were always in the movie. It's just that they ended up cutting a lot of the storyline of the bandits to make room for the dwarves and kind of make it, try to make it work with the two sides. So I think the mistake was thinking that you could bring in 14 characters in a movie and try to make it work and give them equal agency. And they couldn't.

Yeah. Yeah. Because the movie stand out because they are so useless in the movie. Bill. It's true. And they try to, like, at the end of it, they want you to be cheering for this one thing. And I'm not with that person enough to care. And like I said, I still think, you know, there are people that just, like, were ready to say, even if it was, if it's a subpar movie. Oh, yeah, yeah. If it ain't good, if it ain't great and they're going to say, F you, and I'm never going to see this movie, and this movie sucks. And it was so predictable. Like, it was, remember you and I talked about it on Monday?

It was so, like, we knew the kind of reactions we were going to get in the out of the year. Sure, I've got it. Oh, too. like every single thing I knew was, you know, I just kind of went. You should see my review at the end of it. I'm like, call me what you are. Go ahead. I'm this. I didn't like the huntsman.

I guess I'm a racist. I didn't like this. I like this. I guess I'm a paid chill. Go ahead. Have a blast. And please comment more because the more you comment, it gets picked up the algorithm and the more I get paid.

So have a blast. And that was the same thing. And people were going nuts in the comment section. It was so divisive because, and I saw one of our, regular members who said to disagree that they don't think enough people know know about it. I couldn't disagree with you more because I think that because when you, because it's it's that same thing and enough people are commenting on things and pushing things out and things.

Right. You notice it. It starts to get pushed everywhere and people don't even care about this movie. That's the problem. People don't care about this movie. I don't think there's a Disney princess fatigue. If you would have made a really great movie, like, hey, this is a solid movie the way that they did this. I thought they added some stuff.

I didn't think they went away from the, I was worried. I was like, look, I thought it was going to be a complete shit piece. Yeah, agree. When I went in and going, okay, look, they changed themselves up. They didn't go so far away from the original movie. They didn't in the reedits. They certainly didn't. I think they reed this film.

I think so, too. Some of that stuff. I think so, too. Because there's some, look, there's some stuff that's different, but she's not like, it's, and even my daughter's said, had heard, she's like that. I heard they got rid of the love story. He's like, no, they didn't. Yeah.

It's not like the, It's not the only focus. It's not the only focus, but it's important. But the problem is it's not one of these movies that you're going to go, oh, my God, you know what? I know this is controversial, but the movie's awesome. That's what the movie needed to be. The movie had to be that.

Yeah. I still think 45 million or 42, whatever it is, considering so many forces were against this movie from the beginning. You know, before Rachel even said a word on the red carpet, there were already these people and channels who are who are invested in create in pushing these narratives about race swapping a character because you know don't everything that was white from the beginning must always be white don't you dare put a black person in in a white role or a Latino person a Latina into a white role like they're already their engines were already

flowing and then as you said what she said on the red carpet just gave them exactly what they wanted the fuel they wanted and they used that. So I think there are some nefarious actors within this criticism of the film, but there were so many things against it. So the fact that it got to 42, I think is okay, even though it underperformed. But eventually, we'll see if it has legs. But dude, another element, I don't know if you want to talk about this at all, but like what is going on with these critics who go to the premiere

and come out with these glowing greatest live action ever, top three live action ever and then the other critics come out who didn't go to the free like the rest of us watch it and it is absolutely smashed we need to do an exploration or investigation and find out what's going on here the premier studios are intimidating these critics to go away brother no no no this isn't good this isn't it's not it's not that dude what they've done now and what they've changed yeah the premiere as you always you and i've talked about this many times yes the premiere is very much like a set visit where they invite people to the premier and it's not a matter of well we're going to invite them and we're expecting a good review and for anybody who ever says anybody says it's so it's so funny you just you can see low intelligent people or people who don't understand a business works who say like that no who say like that um that critics are paid by the studios that's that's a low intelligent dumb person because that just doesn't happen um but but it doesn't mean that they don't um try to entice them yeah i take to set visits and taking them to like premieres and going to the premieres and saying like okay

and it's not a matter of you are at a premiere now you have to give us a good review it's no no look at this review and you know what we're going to do we're going to seat them right near look at that person who writes for that site they're going to look to their right and there's gal gadadot right they're going to look over there they're going to see uh this person they're going to see that person and then guess what also happens in that premiere yeah everyone who worked on the film sees the credits it goes woo and it's like when you're in a comedy club if a if if a subpar comedian goes is up and bring 60 friends to the to a room of 80 and everyone is laughing at this person you're sitting in there going is this funnier than I than I think it is why why do I why oh this

is infectious so I don't get it as much but now I'm laughing and it's like so it's that that's what happens and the other thing they do is they've been invited and this is this is strategy they've been inviting more influencers yeah no influencers and the critics are get the critics things like yeah access is one thing tony access is thing that's different but you're saying look maybe some people feel and they're never but the studios aren't saying hey we're giving you access you got to give us a good review now you very well could have somebody yeah there's somebody who gets an influencer who goes to one of these things and says you know what i don't want to miss i don't care whether or not people I'm going to go. I had a good time.

That was great. And I'm not going to shit on it because I want to make sure it and go to the next one. I'm telling you, that probably happens also. But pull on someone getting paid. Listen, if you give us a good review, we're going to give you this amount of money or we're going to give me sure that you give us a good review. We're going to make sure you can come back to the next one. Doesn't happen, Tony. Doesn't happen.

It doesn't. It doesn't. It doesn't. But I do think there are certain critics who get to go to these things who massage their reviews. And I never used to think this. But the last few years yeah go to premieres i don't want to go to premieres it's exhausting experience i hate it yeah i hate i hate it's it's for the young people who are coming in in their 20s who are still wide-eyed

and wowed by hollywood but if you get when you get older it becomes exhausting it's a whole night thing the security is exhausting he doesn't want to go to the premieres like i think a lot of people go in i think some critics go in and they like the status of going to these premieres it helps them stay in the social media, zeitgeist. It helps them be a part of quote-unquote film Twitter. It lets them be a voice that gets quoted in these things. So I think there is some bad faith actors within the critic community who don't fully give their real opinion about a movie when they come out of it, do their reactions when

they go to these premieres, because their status at their site matters more than the authenticity of their criticism. So I think there are questions to be asked of some of these critics that go to these premieres who are consistently delivering wow wow reactions and then the movie comes out and it's you know overall crap so right and so someone said that you've seen people lose their access after a bad review what did they say in the bad review because i've given many bad reviews out of these things never once never once gotten a phone call to say like hey you know we invited you that thing you didn't like it yeah you know you can't do that never it's just you rarely vitriolic you're rarely vitriolic

Well, that's the, that's the question. Are you, are you, like, if you're, if you're being hateful inside, are you mean, now, what's, what's your definition of the negative review? Are you saying something along the lines? Like I said, I, in my out of the theater reaction, I literally say, Gallagabille is miscast in the movie and she's not good in the movie. I agree. That's a negative aspect of the movie. True. So, like, and again, people are like, I pay my business and say life.

I was like, okay, can just go smell your own farts. That's all you want to do. You want to smell your own far. And it's fine. Have the best time in your life. But it's why, dude, it's so funny, like, because probably like 20 years ago, that kind of shit would have bothered me. Yeah. But it's so predictable now.

It is. It's so predictable. Because it's also because it's been politicized. And it's like, look, because I said to myself, when I sat down that movie, John, I said to myself, I go, look, I know what's going to happen here. I'm either going to hate this movie. It's going to be a big piece of shit. And everybody's going to call me a racist. And I knew it was coming and I hated it.

And Rachel's legal. I just didn't like everyone in the first place. I know it. Or halfway through it, I'm like, eh, it's not that bad. I can already get fucking people saying. I'm like, by the end of it, I'm like, I won't like this. I was like, whatever. I probably, Ellis was asking me, is it is, is what, what do you think?

How many schmows? And I said, well, I gave it three. And I, I miscalculated on my review. People are giving you shit for it rightfully. So it's like I, what I said was three, three out of five or seven out of ten, which is six out of ten. But I probably could go, I probably could go probably like a 2.7 or 2.8. the thing two and a half is what i gave it two and a half i think i think that's fair i think and and you know

but it's when i i also now when it comes to these movies the kid movies i watched through my my seven-year-old's eyes too and i say can i say can i take her to it will she like and i probably gave it a little bit more leeway because of that but i just knew it as i'm going okay here we go and i just said to myself and i took the camera and i went like and i and i shot the thing and i said all right uploading it see you later and luke was like you're right the comments terrible. I didn't even look at them. I was like, of course, they're going to be terrible. It's just too predictable in the same way that, look, same thing's coming up.

You got a Thunderbolt's coming up soon, right? Oh, yeah, that's right. Now, if you like Thunderbolts, of course, MCU Shill. Yeah. Or it's just the same, it's so fucking predictable and it's so lazy at this point to where, like, for me, it's like, okay, when I saw a decent criticism.

I said, well, you didn't really kind of dive in in this and that and you should have done that. I would have like to hear more about that. I was like, well, it isn't that of the theater reaction, but. Yeah, right. Thank you for saying the things you wanted to hear. I suppose to other things. And it's just the problem has once again been. It has been now politicized, movies in general and not, not the movies have always been political.

Yes, movies in general have always had political themes. We know that. We talked about that. But the idea of this is our statement, this is our statement, let's fucking go. That's what this is now. And it's so exhausting. It's so exhausting. It is.

It is. You can't enjoy stuff anymore. These people have to corrupt it. They have to because they... It's both sides. I'm sorry. Fair point. Both sides corrupted in different ways. People looking to destroy it.

People looking to praise it for their own personal points of use. Agreed. Agreed. Agreed. The new thing, though, this morning, which I saw, which just shocked me, is there's an end scene of the movie where everyone is dancing in a white outfit. It is called Snow White. but people are like grabbing this scene and saying,

this is Disney, in essence, tacitly endorsing Ditties, white only white parties or white parties. And I'm like, this is a corrupt mind that thinks this kind of nonsense and goes to that level. So like I said, this film has become a touchstone for a lot of bad faith actors who want to use it to push their narratives and their agendas and won't hear any, it won't hear any logical pushback on any of their points. because they want to make money off it.

And the other side, I think, is fair to say, as we're pointing out rightly, Christian, there are people who are overpraising this film like crazy because they like the idea of a Latina Lee, they liked the idea of diversity in the bandits and all this stuff, and they're not being authentic in the problems that this film has storyline-wise. A lot. And story beats-wise. I mean, the kiss is like nothing.

And you're like, how would you do that? There's a lot. There's a lot there. And like I said, I was judging it. I was looking at it through a seven-year-old's eyes. Yeah. She wants to see it and she's going to watch it. But the second question I asked myself, though, John, would I sit through it again in the theater to watch it with her?

And I said, no, we can wait for Disney Plus. I don't really need it. But I'm telling you, Rachel Zegwood did this movie, no favors. And I think that this is one of the things that studios, but real quick, real quick. I think that studios, and then I want to hear what you're saying about that. Of course, of course. I appreciate it. I think studios have to be more.

more aware of what they're doing, what their main stars are doing and saying. And they have to be, like, when you're under contract, when you're under contract with our movie from a certain time period, from when you sign on until this time after the movie comes out, we want you to limit certain posts on, on Twitter,

limit certain things. And if you don't want to be in it, that's fine. We'll find another actress or actor that wants to do that. It's okay. We're not telling you that that is the demand. You have to do it. It's like,

That's what we're requesting because, and if you don't want to do it, it's okay, we're paying you a fair amount to adhere to that stuff. And they need to do it because at $240, $260 million, whatever this is, we get to make the rules. That's our money that we're trying to make back. And she put a dent in it. There's no doubt about it. She put a dent in it. But by the same token, can't a person make a mistake and try to atone for that? There's not grace from the same people who want to attack her to, because they're the same.

people who say the dumbest shit in their 20s, but they don't give her any grace for saying the things that she said because they attack her because, A, she's a woman, two, she's a woman of color, and three, she's a young person achieving her dreams and they have failed at theirs. You forgot about four. She's on the aisle of them. Yeah, there you go. That's right. That is well.

So, I mean, there's so much involved here that goes like, look, look, authentically, you can call her out for making a mistake on the red carpet and saying some dumb shit on the red carpet. Totally understand. I even saw people try to weave in. the Shazam 2, where she's like, I needed a job. And people want to be like, you should be worshipping, you're working at DC and playing this character. It's like, oh, no, but Sean. It's got to work, dog. Actors got to work. Yes, but, yes, yes. You're right, though, but you're

right, but she shouldn't say that shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I get people why they're upset, but by the same token, if she says she's sorry, and she tries to make it up by doing these events and trying to bring out the spirit, posting a picture of herself when she was nine years old in a snowy costume, don't we get. get to forgive her for making a mistake because we all made mistakes. I know. We still say dumb shit. Yeah, but at that point, though, but we're not talking about like a couple, you know,

years later or year later. We're talking about during the promotion of the movie with the tracking being bad and her going, oops. And look, the other side of it, too, is her going on Instagram. I say this about every side of the aisle here, too, is that we've gotten so far away from the way politics works now is that if you're, there's no longer, there's no longer just Americans. It's you're on that team, you're on that team.

And that's what it is. It's like it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what your team. There's nothing that your team can do, even if it's right, that I'm ever going to give you credit for. There's no way. You're ever going to get that, but that's where we are. So she has to be aware of that because then when Trump wins the presidency, she says, she goes after Trump supporters and goes and says all these things about Trump support.

Stupid. Stupid. You're going after. And then she'll, oh, I'm sorry, two days later. Because they're going, what the fuck are you doing? These are people we need to take tickets. What are you doing? 100%.

You're 100%. It's a cheaper responsibility. Yes. Yes. And so it's like, that's why I think it's like you can't, you can. And again, this is why I'm talking about the publicists looking and saying, for now, like, we're not telling you, we don't want to silence you. But when you're in, when you're doing, when you're with us for this movie, we need you to just be off of social for

little bit. And try to keep you know it. You want to go after the movie? Go nuts. I think they're right now, John. I don't think, and I read some article. Yeah. No studio wants to touch her right now. She doesn't have anything lined up. I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised. Because she's an exceptional actress. You argue, and I think one of the greatest bits of revenge for her is that she's the best part of this movie. She was fantastic in the Hunger Games. But you're right. She becomes toxic. Not that she is toxic. She becomes like it's not going to say now. I don't know that she's not going to say something in a moment. And look, she's got every right to speak her mind in the First Amendment,

but you don't have a free, like I said, with the other side, you have a freedom of speech, you don't have freedom from consequences. And 100%, that like if she's going to keep doing these movies, she's got to understand that she's either got to curtail her opinions or these studios aren't going to hire her. And especially now with all the madness of Trump and the DEI,

it's going after all these studios to try to stop their DEI programs, which is nonsense. But he's doing it. And so these, And everybody's bending the knee. So she's even less of a wanted commodity because of the situation that is now. And she's been doing this since West Side Story. You're right.

She's going after Spielberg and the people who cast her and like, how dare these white men do this? It's like, what are you doing? You're brand new to this fucking business. What are you doing? Because the problem is she's very talented. She's incredibly talented. She's very talented. She is a great singer.

She's a really good actress. But people now don't don't if you if someone is unlikable, it is to someone else. Right. It is very hard for you to win them over. You know, like I was just talking about like Shailaboof won me back. Right. He put himself. He won me back because Shia al-Boof when he, I realized something different about it.

I was like, oh, he's not, this isn't really a show. He's just kind of a centric dude who was going through some shit. It was that it was the just do it video that got me on board. with him and then I started watching more interviews with him like okay you want me over because I used to really dislike him yeah but this is that's a different situation right this is something like you have basically like let's go back to the Instagram post about after the election yeah and if I'm like okay I want to see my kid I'm gonna take my kids to see this movie and this is how I voted and the lead actress of this movie just told me I get what I get out or wherever she said it was very there's kind of

speaking of vitriol was very hateful in the post that she did I'm like why might I take my kids why I want to pay this woman to when she doesn't like my political stance. That's the reality. Yeah, it is. And that's what comes with a $230 million budget. You're not making a movie for your side of the aisle. You're making it for everybody. I'm in your camp on that.

Like, because you're, this is a business. You're an employee in the business as you work on this particular project with the business. So there are requirements. You can be working construction site. There are requirements that you have to adhere to or you lose your job. So I don't think there's anything wrong to put that on On her now if she's doing an interview and she's talking about her political views or whatever It's got nothing to do with the movie

Knock yourself out She's not only to talk about the movie a hundred percent Yeah But here's the flip side of that here's the flip side of that Yeah, Sharmine Chinoi She's on she's on CNN or whatever it was to talk about politics and then she brings up Star Wars And it's like just say at this point yeah, we're doing a movie, excited to talk about it when it comes out, but right now,

we're just working on it and move on. Don't start politicizing the shit now before you. People, now those, that same audience, it's like F you, Rachel Ziggers is going to go, F you're, you clearly don't want to, you don't want me to come see. They did because it's like you cannot do that today. You have to understand the atmosphere that you're in. You are making, you're making a movie. You have a business. You are doing all of these things.

You have to be aware of it. You're promoting. Like I said, you're making a $15 million movie, $20 million movie. It's a political movie that is centered towards the far left. It's centered towards the far right. You better hope that audience comes out to see it. But if they do, you're going to make your profit and it's worth it. You will never make a profit on a $200 million movie if you politicize it and go after, you know, just one side of the aisle.

And you're going out there insulting the other side of the eye. If you use it to, yes, to politicize it. Right. It goes both ways, right? Yeah, 100%. does you made a right wing movie and go attack left wing people you're they're not going to come see the movie and if you're trying to make that movie to get people to understand your point of view you you shot yourself in the foot right and that's the thing when you look at it so yeah it is it is a much more nuanced and complex situation uh when you and i saw someone comment like uh and i don't look and i'm trying to look comments comes here some people tell me about it was like roca pushes is a progressive agenda i don't push it it's my belief right right my beliefs i believe we should all have equality we should all be from gender's equal pay. I believe color should have an opportunity. I don't think that's a negative thing to want in the world. But by the same token, I think I've had to wake up from the fact

that this idea of representation, which I pushed for years, was something that I really wanted to see. And the studios did it in bad faith, which is what you alluded to a few minutes ago. And that's the thing that has been the most heartbreaking thing about it all, because you wanted the representation, but the way they've done it is so terrible and ham-handed and shoving it in. became insulting to it. And Twitter did the same thing. I had to take a lot about that stuff. But Twitter did the same thing. It's because it's like, anytime you think like, oh, everybody, it's like anything. That's the popular thing of the day right now. It's that everybody's on board with it. So that's what I am. I'm going, oh, eventually a popular thing, if not handled the right way,

becomes an unpopular thing. And so there are tons of people and the workspace we used to work at. They're always like, boom, boom, boom, you better, if you don't do this, then you, then you don't like this. and it means that you don't represent us and you don't care about us. And at first, everyone's like, yeah. And now everyone's like, enough. Enough. And it's like, no one is saying, as you just said,

no one is saying that that is a bad thing to want. Right. It's the thing you should want. If you're a good person, you should want everyone to get an opportunity. Exactly. Question is, A, don't shove it down people's throats if it's not warranted.

And B, understand that everyone is different and everyone has different opinions. And if you're going to make stuff, You got to make it for everybody if you're doing these big budget huge movies. Everybody has to be on board that you're trying to make it for everybody. Yes. I don't. I cannot politicize Snow White.

You can't. You can't do it. It's so, you cannot do it. You're like, well, guess what? The whole thing about, this is the funny thing about it. When she said it on the carpet about this snow white is a different snow white. This snow white is going to be the, Kristen Stewart did that. Yeah.

Right. It was a warrior princess. Now, if Christin Stewart would have said, this Snowite's different, she's kicking ass and shit, we don't need no men and blah, blah, blah. People would have been like, fuck you, Chris and Twilight, girl. She never said that. She never said that. And the movie still was, the both of them were shit anyway, but still.

But the point is, it's like, we had a warrior princess, snowy. And she was way more warrior and way off the different tone. This is a, this out of all the remakes that were made, it was the most true to the story. Ironically. But that's what I'm saying, dude, she caused a lot of this. She caused a lot of it. Yeah. I think she's going to have to make a decision. Because look, it is, it's always on these big films, right? She was just in that film with Kyle Mooney that I reviewed and got to interview him for, right? She didn't say nothing negative on the red carpet about that movie. Yet that movie is dealing with the advance of technology overcoming and controlling human beings. Yet she didn't say anything controversial on those red carpas or interviews or anything like that. So there is a little. bit, I think, of her realizing the platform she has and using it on these big movies to state these big points. And I think there is a moment where the studios are just like, look, this is too much. No offense. We love you. We think you're amazing. But if we're going to spend so much money to make a

movie and you're going to kneecap it before it even gets to come out because you've got to push your agenda or your feelings about it, then I think it doesn't make sense for us to go into business with you At this point, you know, when you're making movies like this, you got to, right now, and if it's, whether it's a behind the, the closed doors conversation. Yeah. We need sneaky clean people here. We need, if I'm Disney, we need squeaky, clean people. We need people that are going to be, you know, play by the book, not controversial. We can't afford it right now.

And the flipside, what we haven't talked about yet is the Mufasa angle, which is Mufusca did not. do great its opening weekend. Right. But it did not have... Yes, but it also didn't have controversy connected to it, really. Well, not to this extent. It wasn't political controversy. Right, right, right. Not to this extent.

So, but it did and the other thing, arguing against my own point, is that it still went from, it came out in December, had no competition in January, had really no competition in February, and it was able to keep moving.

Um, Snow White's going to get hit with, uh, with competition faster than that. Oh yeah. Second week is crucial. If it has a, yeah,

this one coming up. This is a Captain America situation. Huge. If this has a smaller drop off, then it can survive. It has a massive Captain America type. Yeah. Then that's two big fart bombs for Disney back to back.

And I will tell you, I feel it's going to go more the way of Captain America than it is, um, Mufasa this one. I just don't, I don't think it's going to have the, the legs of Mufasa. I agree.

And I also think there's there's a world where Disney stuck, stuck to its guns, put its balls out there, and did the two movies that they were supposed to do. Captain America Brave New World was a much more stark commentary on being a black Captain America in America. And the, I think the Snow White was a much more feminist take on Snow White. If they had committed to those takes, I wonder what the results would have been, because you might have had a better movie even with those particular points of views.

Would that have led to a better box office? Because people could say, look, I don't like what the message is, but I can't deny it was a damn good movie. And so this is what I wonder about. You still have the same problem, though. Because it's ham-handed stuff they did, which they cut both of these movies to pieces. I know, but you still, but if you have the original version,

the problem already was, the main controversy, was that they were going to change Snow White drastically. get it away from what it was because if they would have committed to that I would have pissed people off even more even if it was a good movie no one's going to go no one's going to be in there to see that the things about the remakes on the Disney live action the reason why people want to see them

the majority of this is is they want to see what the animated versions of these movies look like live action yeah that's that's it's it and you know and but they want more to it like Cinderella is a great example of like Cinderella is a perfect kind of example of like Cinderella is a perfect kind of example you stay true to the essence

of what it was and you lead into it as opposed to Lion King, which is essentially just a remake shot for shot. However, still made a billion dollars. 1.6 billion dollars. Yeah. So regardless of what you think about the quality of it, people wanted to see it. So if you would have done a movie like,

and to guess your point of instead of going that route, of the, well, let's commit to this version of what she's talking about on the carpet and the opposite of that. And making the exact movie that was there, that made the studio, that gave the studio its, it's credibility in the first place, and make that movie,

it probably would have done pretty damn well. You know, so I don't know, but that's looking. The end of the day, I think we can all agree, even the people who maybe hate me or like you or whatever, but like we can all agree that what we wanted at the end of the day is good movies. And we want, no matter what the point of you is, you want a good movie. and these movies, both Captain America and Snow White,

just were disappointed in the end of the role. I want more than that, though, John, though. Okay. I do want good movies, but I do, and as I said it before, I want everybody to stop politicizing this stuff, and it definitely comes from the studios and the actors first. It really does, because if you give, as you said beforehand, if you give anybody ammo, they're going to use it.

So I always want to get back to, I'm not telling you not to make your movies political in general. movies like there are political themes and movies we talk about that all the time that's not what I'm saying I don't want to be the same kind of people thinking if they didn't understand my Oscar point hopefully they understand this point the point the point is more so of when you're promoting the movies when you're talking about the movies when you're casting the movies things that you're doing about the movies let's let the movies themselves speak to themselves um which is a good enough movie they'll get the message right if your movie is good enough

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I'm going to be watching a full watch. I'm going to watch all the final destination movies with Tina, by the way. I realize, I think I only saw the, I know, I saw the first one. Yeah, there's one one with Ellis, but I don't remember them at all. And so it's going to be kind of like a first watch for me. But anyway, final destinations, bloodlines. The first photo has been released of the late horror icon Tony Todd in his final big screen

appearance and final destination bloodline, which opens in cinemas May 16. Todd reprises his reoccurring franchise character, William Bibiani, no, Bloodworth in the sixth overall of the franchise. Caitlin, Santa Zwanah, T.O. Brioz, Richard Harmon, Owen, Patrick Joyner, Ria Kilsit, Anna Lour, and Rec Basinger, star in the film, which a college student heads home to track down the one person who might be able to save her family from the grizzly demise that inevitably awaits them all. A brand new official trailer for the film is going to go online tomorrow. Okay, that's for final destination. Twisters two. Rope is pumped.

Oh, God. Scooper Daniel RPK reports that a sequel to last year's Glenn Powell and Daisy Edgar Jones led Twisters is in the works. The first film, a spiritual successor to 1996. Twister grows 3702 million worldwide as the project is so early in development.

There's no word yet returning stars. Lee Isaac Chung will return to direct. I like that movie, so I'm excited. Oh, some information on the untitled Kaczynski UFO film. Apple has closed the deal. for the UFO film, which has Top Gun Maverick, Helmer Joseph Kaczynski, attached to direct and produce along with veteran producer Jerry Bruckheimer and a script by Zach Bailen.

The large-scale conspiracy thriller follows two men working in national security who uncover a secret program to recover and reverse engineer. Whoa. Oh, that's more. Wow, that's the thing. Zinski must be paying attention what's going on. The deal said to be worth many millions was Kaczynski earning Nolan Spielberg levels of money for the gig.

holy, holy, that's big. That's a big story. Friday the 13th, after being rumored last month, Linda Cardinelli, is now confirmed to be playing Jason Vorhe's mother, Pamela, in the Friday of the 13th prequel series, Crystal Lake. What happened with that? Because they were supposed to be like, it was on, it was on, it was off, and it walked the deal with Crystal Lake.

Yeah, there were a lot of, there was some creative differences in showrunner left, the new runner came in. I think Jeff broke the Cardlini thing on his newsletter on our channel, or on our show, rather, I can't remember. What stands out with you? with these stories, John? I'm a Final Destination person. Love that series and franchise.

So I'm excited that we're going to get a full trail. I mean, that that teaser was two and a half minutes. It was excellent. So I'm excited that we're going to get more of an official trailer tomorrow of that one. So that's the big one that stands out for me that I enjoy Twisters. I mean, I watched it again the other day because you can understand why they're making it. Oh, of course. It made so much money.

People loved it. I wanted to get on Peacock. I'm still even more firmer that it was kind of boring for me. Hopefully I like the second one that they bring out of it. But those are the two that jump out to me. But I found a destination man. I love that you doing a reaction. That's great.

Those are so love that series. Yeah, I'm gonna, I don't remember them at all. I really don't. And I remember like we went to, I think we, speaking of premieres, I think we went to the premiere of one of the ones that has like the biggest twist out of all them. And Ellisland walked out at the end before even happened. I didn't like the move. I know. No, it was like, we're just like, yeah, we get it.

We'll do the review. We're done. And then we realized we never did that ever again because we missed a big, huge twist. I remember Alonzo Doralde saying like, what did you guys think of the twist? And we're like, yeah, I think we have to go back and see it. I don't remember what happened, but I just remember that was like, yeah, let's not do that again. Anyway, so for me, it's absolutely the Kaczynski story, not only getting picked up by Apple, but details on what it's going to be, because if you're following the UFO topic,

the UAP topic, reverse engineering and everything that's going, so for a lot of people don't know, and I was going to do a video on this today on my other channel is that. So David Grush, who was like the intelligence officer who spoke up at the hearing, who was the one who came out, who was one of the main, he's like the star witness of that 2023 hearing. He just, he's now working with the task force now in the government to working specifically on

UAPs now. They brought him back like official government position. So now reverse engineering, all that kind of stuff. But the fact that they're going and they're paying attention to this, and David Grush is a consultant. on that movie by the way yeah that is fascinating yeah um so that's the movie for me that that obviously is going to stand up the most do you think it'll but do you think it'll do you think it'll

do you think it'll be a letdown do you think they'll cop out do you think they'll really no no no if questions involved no they're going to dive in the bigger question is um well this is a movie where i think it needs a big star um there are a lot of times when you don't need a big star and you don't need to sell the movie i think this movie needs to start to get people first of all go what oh so-and-so is in a ufo movie that's cool and then when you start to understand that there's certain things maybe i don't know how they're going to reveal it like yeah certain things based on true events maybe not i don't know but whatever it might be but but they could be with with uh with david grush they could have certain like sure or they could not do that because maybe he can then say as much as he could

because it's fictional yeah yeah you know what i mean and add to it but But regardless, I think that you have like a full on star in that role. Yeah. Because that will drive eyes to when it comes out on Apple. Right. Oh, so-and-so is in a movie. Oh, it's a UFO movie. Yeah, I'll check that out.

And you're like, holy shit. Like, they really like dove into this thing. And it's going to be the star that attracts you to click on it on Apple. Right. So the question is who. I bet you we get an announcement like a really big star, especially if it's Apple. I mean, I'm crazy. Cruz,

Tom Cruz, Joseph Kaczynski coming back together. I wonder what, I wonder what Tom Cruise, what his stance is with UFOs. I know, Scientology, you know,

exactly, but I don't, I know, I know, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it'd be interesting.

It'd be interesting. But does Tom Cruise do streaming movies? Because, you know, yes, I'm sure Apple will get it, you'll give it a push theatrically. Yeah. They did wolves and stuff too.

But Apple's, the draws that you can watch it on Apple. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, because obviously Tom sat on Maverick until it could come out theatrically. Right. When Paramount won't put it out on streaming. So would he be willing to do with this as a kind of a chance? See what I mean? Stacey did it.

DeCaprio did it. Who is Tom Cruise not to do it or try it out at least. I'm not sure. I'm curious to see how they're going to do this. I mean, you sell it, them coming back together to work on another film. And they did Oblivion, which is a film, I think, said in the future in space or whatever.

So why not? Yeah. I'm curious to see who they're going to get that. But let's, we'll find out soon enough, I'm sure. Okay, let's shift over and let's get to this. This will be the last one that we do because we talked about the, that snow went for a bit. So we're going to get some questions.

They have quite a few questions. So I want to make sure that we get to them. But I think we have to dive into this one. This will be the one that we get to today. Okay. And that's the Batman sequel. It's officially listed as untitled on Warner Brothers website under the sci-fi fantasy genre. Comic book movie.com.

Matt Reeves, long away the sequel to The Batman, is now officially listed as the untitled Batman film on a Warner Brothers website and his categories in the sci-fi fantasy genre. Marcacity writes, late last year, we got the disappointing news that Matt Reeves, the Batman sequel, had been hit with another delay and won't be arriving in theaters until my birthday, October 1st, 2007.

One trade report noted that the movie is no longer expected to be titled the Batman Part 2, which now seems to have been confirmed. On Warner Brothers, Spain's official website, the sequel is listed as Untitled Batman Film is also categorized as action, adventure, sci-fi, fantasy. This may not mean very much, but since the first movie was listed as action-adventure, some fans have taken these additional genres as confirmation that Reeves is planning to introduce more fantastical elements to his relatively grounded Batverse. This would align with the previous rumors that Clayface was originally

going to be the villain and the movie's winter setting had led to a speculation that missed the freeze might serve as the main antagonist dc studios co-head james gunn claim that almost a year-long delay was simply down to the fact that the script hasn't been finished but it seems like the filmmaker has now at the very least cracked the overall story in a recent interview robert patinson revealed that he does know what the batman sequel will be about while addressing the news that the movie had been pushed into twenty twenty seven said that's a very careful writer but i know but it's about. It's very cool and I'm very excited. A lot of the fans and industry insiders remain convinced the patents will ultimately stay on as the DC's dark night for the plan to Brave and

the Bold movie. Folding the universe into the DCU might make the most sense if for no other reason and to avoid having two separate Batman franchises running alongside each other. By the time, the Batman sequel actually hits theaters in 2027. There's sure to have been some progress on the Brave and the Bold. Gunn and Peter Safran refuted the patents and rumors during the recent DCU's Slate update, although it might be telling the Superman director wouldn't outright state that the making 17 actor would not play Batman in the Brave and the Bold, simply noting it was very unlikely. There were in rumors that Reeves might be dealing with some personal issues, which prevented him from working on the script for a period of time.

The filmmaker did mention that he had a lot of stuff going on in his life during the January's Golden Globes while also confirming that the Batman sequel is scheduled to begin filming this year. I can tell you that we're going to be shooting this year and we're excited about it. I can't tell you anything about it except that we're really excited. we're continuing the story. I'm excited to make it going back together to get people involved and that we're really excited about it. I guess he's excited.

What I'm excited about is that I feel like we're doing something that continues where the story came from and something I hope people are going to be really surprised by. He added. Okay. John, what do you make of all this? I mean, I don't know. There's so much that they're not telling us that's going on behind the scenes.

The fact that they already know how to categorize this movie, don't tell me there's not a finished script. Jeff alluded to that on the hot mic that Matt Reeves is under Abdi and Duluca. He is not under James Gunn. So he is probably sent a finished script to Abdi and DeLuca, but he has not sent it to James Gunn. So the fact that they have this situation here

and they're able to tell you what type of genres the movie is or is going to cover or the fact that it might get fantastical, I think that tells me things. The fact that you moved the title, off the Batman part two what does that mean are you going to give it the Batman and then some name after it like we just saw denna thieves pantara or whatever like are they going to do something like that with the Batman but again i i just there's they're not telling us the full truth about what's going all behind the scenes on this thing and it feels to me like they're just trying to hedge their bets

until they finally make a decision once and for about where they're going so this all this news feels very much like we're going to vomit on on everything so we can try to claim it later that we that was our intention all along so yeah yeah i don't know what to make the news um because it's like there's the 2027 i think that they mark cassidy kind of hits a nail on the head is that the problem is that 27 by the time you get that out there you've got to be building especially look if superman if superman hits and supergirl hits yeah everybody's going to be like where's batman where's batman i mean that that's that's everyone's going to want to see the dc u's batman Right now, everybody's still curious about what the hell Superman's going to be.

So nobody knows yet. But if you're like, oh, if you can do that with Superman, what are you going to do with Batman? They're going to, I want to see this Superman team up with Batman. Who's our Batman? Right now, it's up in the air. So you have a little bit of time. But once Superman comes out, it's on. And it's it.

And if it does really well, pressure's on. If it does bad, then maybe that's what they're waiting for. You know, maybe they're waiting to see how it does because it's like, okay, look, in the same way that they were waiting for to see what was going to happen with the flash. They were waiting to see what was going to happen with Shazam and Aquaman, right? Because when that whole deal was announced

and they asked Gun, he would be like, oh, we're keeping the door open, which meant if it makes money, we're going to be screwed because we're going to have to figure out how to incorporate them because it didn't make money. Like, okay, we're moving on, we're doing other things because you know what else wants to see it. So if the movie makes money,

Superman, then it's like okay now maybe we do fold patents and into this thing overall although because they still only have what i mean we're we're in march or almost april may june june like three months until superman comes out yeah which is crazy um and then you can really make that decision because if it does poorly then they go no we just got a the batman too is going to be the star of the show and james klin might not even have a job that's what that's what saw some people speculate that zasloff is waiting until he sees how superman does before he commits to whatever is going to have because we've certainly seen that zazlov can be cutthroat when he wants to be

and if you all remember the article from over a week ago on puck news that kim masters wrote about the problems that abdia deluca are in just a few days ago they moved almost all the movies that they were in trouble for to later in the year or into 2026 with the bride that tells you there is trouble behind the scenes on what's going on here. And that Abdi is, I'm sorry, that Zazlov is willing to move stuff around if he needs to move stuff around in order to make it fit in the schedule and give these people more time. But he is certainly willing to cut them if he needs to. So what's, I think the Superman thing is what they're all waiting on. If it comes out and it's really beloved and it hits all these massive numbers, then James Gunn gets, has more cachet. If Abdi and DeLuca

get moved out and Saffron gets moved into their position, he is no longer working with James. James Gunn over DC. He's working over the entirety of Warner Brothers. So then James Gunn now gets to be the sole person or the sole voice who decides where the direction of the DC universe goes in. And even more so because of the cashé of Superman doing well. And if Supergirl comes out and does well, then he's got even more cash. Exactly.

That's when they make the decisions fully about where they're going. But this is going to be interesting. I don't 100% believe that they're going to shoot this film this year. I just don't. I know here. Scheduled it and whatever. Yeah. What do you think?

I agree with you. I think that, well, like I said, I think it's all contingent on what happens with Superman. Yes, 100%. Everything's contingent. Because there could be another side of this story where Reeves is just like, no, I don't want to do that. And they're like, well, right now you don't have to. But if Superman makes a billion dollars, you might have to. Right, right.

You know what I mean? We're going to have meetings and. Yeah. And you might have to. So who knows if that's what's happening or not. All right. What say you guys? Let me know.

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I saw a comment that came in. Oh, one of our reactions. Okay. And your reactions. One of the reactions I did with Sam. Yeah, yeah. So in the comment was, I can't stand. That's what she said jokes, which I replied. That's what he said. Hey. I was so excited. I was so excited. I responded to that. I don't like, that's what she said jokes. Folks, I was very excited about them. Yeah, we have more reaction to it. We just did into the Spider-Verse. Got across the Spider-Verus coming out tomorrow. So we're excited about that.

What about you, man? When you got going on in the channel, before you get your questions. Come on. Head on over the Allo Nation channel. We just dropped a bunch of stuff over the weekend from the hot mics, some clips outs from the most recent show. Jeff and I going at it over that Valnet story for 22 minutes.

What a back and forth between the two of us. No holds barred. down in Russia. That's a little Rocky for reference. Also the geek buddy stuff. We're going to be doing two shows this week. We got apparently two Daredevil Born Again episodes this week. So we're reviewing those as well. And we're going to get a Jedi Way. And of course, the Andor final trailer dropped today for season two, which is coming up less than a month from now. So there's a lot we're going to be talking about on Jedi away this week. So all of it and spill the tequila will most likely

be coming back this week. Had on over there. YouTube.com slash John Roka says. Let's go. people. I haven't watched a trailer and I'm not going to. Because during the, so good. Yeah, I know, but I'm not going to do it. I'll tell you why. During the break, just now, I checked my email. Yes. And we got the first two coming out. I don't know if we have access to them right now, but they usually let you know. Right. That it'll be like with

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John, is there any chance that the cinefiles would do Schindler's list or complete Star Trek original with Voyage Home and Final Frontier? Well, we did the original film, but Voyage Home and Final 14 are in conversation. Schindler's list, that's going to be a bit. That's a heavy, heavy one. and being Jewish, there's a lot that would go into doing it. But yes, those are all in the mix with the coming pursuit. It's a tough one. We just dropped our first episode of Miller's Crossing on the Sinifals podcast.

Merfair, what moment hit you harder watching with Sam? Tony Stark dying or May dying? Well, I mean, if you're asking for Sam, I'd probably tell you that, well, they both hit her pretty hard. But I think Tony probably hit her harder. For me, it was May. because there's just a thing for some, Tom Holland plays grief so well. Yeah, yeah.

There is a moment when he, like, if you've ever gone through real pain inside of grief, there's a moment when he's on the roof, right before MJ and Ned come out to hug him. Right. And his eyes and what he's doing in that moment, and then the kind of explosion of sadness that comes Adam when his two friends are comforted him.

That was a very real moment. And so all of that combined got me. So that probably hit me though. Yeah. Yeah. All May death was. It was tough. She played it very,

she put not as good as Mary in Cote D'Rard in Dark Night Rise of course. But, but close. With Tony, you saw that kind of coming with May. No one saw that coming. That's true. Because you know what they do very well? Because here's the difference with the Tony one is that when Tony does it,

and the next time you see him, he's got no color in his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's done for it. Right. May is standing. Yeah. She's standing. Okay.

They make, they fool you on purpose saying, oh, she's going to make it. And then she does it. Big Busta became a YouTube member. Good time to be a member right now, Big Busta, whether or not you're going to be getting all the capes and cows comic books or watching all the non-edited reactions. We have a full live stream coming out today. It's probably going to be a shorter one.

Probably be like a half an hour today because I've got to catch a train right afterwards. But a 430 today, we have a live stream. So we're going to be a member. What are you going to see? Are you going to see something? Yeah, Jason Statham movie. Nice.

Yes. Yeah, working. Yeah, working man. Who is the villain in your comic books? I don't want to spoil that. Oh, okay. All right. I'm going to spoil that.

Why, you want to be the villain? I'm available to. be the villain gladly i'm curious i'm curious smart villain not i want to be the joker that keeps coming back you can't keep you can't seem to get him down roxy roxy's a bad guy in it oh of course she is yeah and big balls is not a bit big big balls is a good guy um mirror domains what did you make of ria ripley at raw last week which now so i think i saw yeah are you ready for that man are you getting ready what about the triple threat we're five weeks away man yeah you're yeah the triple threat

Um, yeah, I'm interesting. But like I said, dude, it just, there's, there's really, they really are, they have a lack of people who are good on the microphone. They really do. You're actually making a really good point. Yeah. Yeah. That seems to have gone down. Yeah.

If you watch the LFG show, these guys coming up are doing much better on the mic. Okay. People who are on the freaking show right now. Yeah. Yeah. There's no, I mean, I don't, I mean, Ria Ripley clearly out of the three of them is the best on the mic. A hundred percent. Bianca,

I mean, because sky is, sky is just kind of hampered because of the language barrier. Right, of course. But she's trying, she's trying.

I just think Bianca's terrible on the microphone. I think she's terrible. I think she's amazing in the ring. She's terrible on the microphone. Same. And then, yeah, if you look at some of the big stars

that they have coming, see a punk great on the mic. Seth Rollins is really good for what he's doing. Also, the Roman Rain stuff. That's working. That stuff's working right now. That threesome was a great.

It was great. And how they're going to play that with Paul Heyman, I think is going to ultimately, they got to have Paul Maiman turn on reins. They have to. I mean, they have to. It's like, we've been with Roman. Let's turn on him. Let him be a lone dog.

Let him do his own thing. And then punk and Paul Heyman back together. It'd be fantastic. Either that or he goes with the Rock, right? Because the Rock can say, of course he turned on you. He's not family. We're family. And then he gets, goes back into heel mode.

True, true. That's very awesome. Interesting. Oh, I didn't realize that. I don't want to go to this full story. I guess we can cover it tomorrow, but apparently there's a new five-minute preview of Superman that's going to play in front of Minecraft movie.

Ooh. It's because they know no one wants to see that movie. So they're making you go to watch the trailer. Renetta, hey, fellas, hey, Renetta. Saw Snow White this past weekend. It was okay. Yeah, Rachel Zegler is phenomenal.

She is. She just needs to continue to work on PR. It's true. The Seven Dwarves didn't bother me. Me either. Dopey. I love Dopey. I thought Dolby was great.

I saw someone call it nightmare fuel and I'm like, what? It's a sweet film. It's a sweet character. It was like it was a much better. The dwarves didn't look great, but they looked like a much better version of the Polar Express. Oh, yes. 100%. Right?

But like, but I thought Doeby worked pretty well. I liked Dopey. I thought Dopey and Grumpy both worked well with the look and what they were doing. They were basing it off the original animation. Yes. Renetta, I just saw the new Andor trailer. Thank you, much better. The music score was great.

More out of that, please. I guess the trailer company listened to the majority who hated the music the first time. I hear it's a great trailer. It is. My reaction's up on my channel if people want to watch. Yeah. So I saw that it was, they saw it dropped and I contemplated doing it. Yeah.

And I said, you know what? It's coming out, like, within the next couple weeks. What an April we have? Before 18. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have Andor, you got sinners. You have. Last of Us.

Yeah. There was a few other ones that I saw that were coming out. There's a couple of things that are coming out in Minecraft, which that's one of the ones where I think like the out of the theater will do well, but I don't know how the movie itself will do well. Yeah. So curious. We'll see.

Al Rensha. I had no interest in seeing Snow White. The dwarves looked awful. No Prince Charming. Ziegler's comments and Godot, not telling her to stop. Can't support that. But see, that's kind of what, and I think that's the point that we made, right? And I think, and I think Al,

I think that he explained himself well and why he didn't want to see it. And I think that a lot of people felt that way. Al, there is a Prince Charming. No, there isn't. Well, I mean... There's a love interest. He's charming.

He's charming and he's a prince of a guy. So I think it kind of qualified. You shut the fuck out. Who do you work for the... Who do you work for the PR team? Now I'm shilling. No. No, no.

No, that's... He's a prince of a guy. But I need to know, Al, how invested you are in Prince Charming? That this was one of the reasons you didn't. The other two I can accept, but the Prince Charming thing, I need to know. I'm going to use that. He's a prince of a guy. Al Rensha, Ziggler should know better than Trashorinchel.

I agree with you, Al. I agree. Al, what did you know at 23, Al? Did you say all the right things in 23, Al? John, you said the same thing. I did, but I also create grace that you'll learn from it. Okay, but he said the same thing. you did that you shouldn't have trashed the original yes i agree she shouldn't have trashed yes so you agree with

al he follows it up i know this is a hot take but i didn't like and or uh season one i think he means and it just didn't feel like star wars to me yeah i i couldn't disagree with that more uh this last trailer made me hype for the series which is good but i i i pushed back to every single person that said that that didn't feel like star wars i have no idea how that didn't feel like star wars it felt like the most star wars at anything that they've made i agree 100 percent it's like it's like it's the actual stormtroopers and it felt like it was connected to the empire and it felt like it was connected to like this galactic struggle it actually felt like a star war um it there were stakes yeah there were stakes i mean that it was the most star wars out of anything that i felt about than then then kitty stuff

that had been making um 100% all right let's see the next one is from mike what's that mike doby reminds you of alfred e newman also kind of the mad character yeah kind of yeah he did for sure. Years. Yep. Artem. Seena's, it's all fan's fault route is so old and overused,

felt very flat and boring, stunned that they are using this first final run, expecting more. I got to tell you, Artem, I agree. Yes. But I texted you that,

John. I know you did. I said, I just said it's the same. It's like, well, he was just kind of stomping his feet and he was a little whiny. And I'm like,

oh, I don't have to be a cool kind of heel. You want chicken shit heal. Yeah, I guess that's the point is that they want, they don't want anyone cheering them at all. And so they made them really despicable, but I hope it just a blowback. Like,

the question is, what is his follow-up acts of healism going to be? We'll find out tonight. That would be a buddy. Right, right, so it's got to be something, it's got to be something pretty despicable.

Yeah. Like, it's, you want to have like, you know, a wine, wo is me promos? Fine,

but you, but in your actions, you got to be despicable. Yeah. So, but I'm, I'm with you, Artiman and John. I didn't love, I didn't love the, the promo. I love the choice. It was late. It was 10 years to. Yeah, the crowd was great. They were in it. Yeah. But the, the construct of the promo, the foundation. You know what it was? It was, it was also, he kept going and seeing the same thing for about 10 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Heroic Hideaway. SmackDand is coming to my city this summer and they're advertising seen it to be there. First time going to a WWE. event and suggestions on what to expect. Just embrace it.

Like I just went, my first one, I went to Madison Square Garden a couple of weeks ago. And I just sat back in the crowd and I just took it all in, right? I took the audience, like the audience is a lot of fun. They really get into it. Just embrace it. Like have a fun time and watch the show. That's really all the bed. And get a pretzel and some beer.

Listen, you're going to have fun. It's such a great experience going to this house shows. People are there to really. enjoy them. It's not going to a house show. A SmackDown, even more so, because they really want to have fun. No one is there going to fight or having issues. Honestly, everyone is there to go

and have a great time and enjoy it, be caught up in it. So you're going to have a blast. At 54, John, can you hit 100 today? Come on, guys, let's go. You got to set it up. We've got to see who's going to. I think Roxy is going to try to come back this week. So that would be your competition. But last week's winners

was Steph and Mike, so you've got to beat them. Mike Joyce. Is the original really that good beloved yes and yes yeah with the way the hate markers talk about it you think it was something a level of the godfather well and again it's it's there's a politicized side of it but i think that it's it's a classic movie and it and it and it defined it really set the way for animation in general as far as future films go yeah yeah it is absolutely classic that in pinocchio sleeping beauty these are the classics you don't want to mess with listen 30 years for now someone's gonna talk some crap about the original lion king or a little they already tried that with little mermaid

So, you know, you got to respect the people loved those old films and kids are still discovering them nowadays. So you got to respect that. Al Wrenches said, is Al Ritcher's. I tell you's back again. The veteran should have talked to Zegler. I mean, who's to say she didn't? There's rumors that they have issues with each other. So she wouldn't have listened anyway.

Yeah. I don't know about what, but PLD says, fuck me. I actually agree with Roka. Oh! I don't know about what. Maybe that Ed Harris is an actor. Do you both agree on that? Yeah, sure, but I think for $2, I don't care.

$50, I'll agree. I can accept you agreeing with me. Julius Wyatt, when Galgadot's song started, I almost burst out laughing. It was bad. I can't sing it. I didn't think she sang terribly. I just think that she, I can't sing either, but I wasn't paid millions to sing while Dwarves, CGI still terrifies me. I don't think she was a terrible singer.

I don't think she's paid millions either. You don't think she was paid millions? No, I don't think she was paid. Maybe a million. maybe less no way she's coming off just coming off flops bro it doesn't matter it's galgadot

too there's no there's no way she she made it a minimum three or four million do you think yeah yeah yeah yeah at a minimum uh galgadot starts it was she her singing didn't bother me it was the other stuff the screaming and the yelling that she was doing was there were a couple times I heard in my critics

yeah yeah a couple times yeah I will say the singing did bother me because it showed the weaknesses of her acting she overreacted everything Whereas Rachel delivered great emotion in her songs. I agree with you. But I'll tell you, I don't think she was bad as the old lady. No, I know.

You said that. And I agreed with you. I said that in my review. Christian was right about that. Yeah, she was good as the old lady. Jason Pemberfoot, the Normies don't even know who was playing Snow White. They just saw another gross, woke movie. Population is done with that.

No. Wait, wait, wait. I don't necessarily love the way he phrased it, but I will say this. And I won't mention my friend's name. Okay. A friend of mine texting me and said, hey, is there a new snow white movie?

And I said, yeah, there's a snow white. And my friend joked he was like, yeah, they probably made her not white. And he was kidding. And I said, actually, she's played a Latina. He said, he said, shut up. And I said, no, I'm serious. It's a little scene actresses. He's like, Disney does that with everything now, huh?

This is a casual person who just watches movies. So that's why it's one of those things where it's like, okay. Like someone I know, even someone I know who is not racist at all, Someone who was like just a complete like very much I would say close very progressive someone that this person was someone else who was like do they have to make everybody not white now someone someone said and I was like I couldn't believe the person said it and I was like and I was like and that I think goes to Jason Pemberfoot's thing of I don't like the way that again Jason necessarily phrased it but I think that there are that that we were you and I were talking about before of the of the okay why are they doing it are they doing it because they want to do it or Are they doing it because the person earned? Are they doing it because they feel like they have to or Twitter's going to scream it? But this is a centuries old story.

I know. It's so just like with Shakespeare. I don't go into Shakespeare going, they better all be white. Right. Right. Are they good? Great.

I want to see this interpretation. So yes, some people are saying that, you know, oh, they didn't want, but I don't think there's like another gross woke movie. That's nonsense.

And the population is not done with it. I think it's nonsense too. I think it's a much, because people want to believe this idea that Trump won by like, 40% of the popular vote nonsense. He barely won by less than two. It's 1.5%.

And so there are a lot of people who still want to see progressive things and diverse things in our world. We just can't get lost in the fact that we're just going to go one way all the way. It's got to be a balance. You've got to find the middle. You must balance. Balance. Sean McCabe.

I'm so happy. Sam told me so happy. My sister's been found in home safe. Now the road of recovery. Thank you for all of support, especially Sam. Thank you. So, Sean. Sam told me she was giving me updates and I was very, very, very happy to hear that.

So amazing. Thank you for letting us know. And I could not be happier. That's great. Okay, buddy. Great, great news. Okay, Julius, Wyatt. Rachel was the only good part of the movie to me.

I thought Adobe was pretty good. I thought she in the main band, the guy had no chemistry. Gal was not good, unfortunately. It was pretty bored. Fortecent. Fair score. Fair. Yeah.

The main guy was so boring. Oh, he wasn't, he didn't have, it was like, it was like you wanted Chris Pine, but they couldn't afford them. So they went and they got like a clone version of them and then missed some stuff. Uh, go pal. The premier thing looks like Clarence Crow. He doesn't rule the way he does because he's bought. He gets skipped because he already felt that way. Do you know what he's talking about?

I do not. The premier thing feels like Clarence slash crow. Uh, yeah, I don't know. Oh, I guess because we're talking about the influencers that go to the premieres. Oh, okay. I don't know what Clarence Thomas. Okay. Oh, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Clarence Thomas. Oh, right. Harlan Crow and Clarence Thomas. Oh, yeah, I mean, that's fair. You can make that connection. We got there. We got there. Yeah.

All right. Just watch your Andorre reaction real. I don't think Deidre is getting choked. I think whatever happened else. I don't want to know. I don't know about it. I don't know about it. I don't want to know about it.

I don't want to know about it. You might be right, ma'am. Damn you both. Go pal. Studios must know the people who already like them. They do. I'm sure that they do. The publicist's jobs at the studio,

the studio publicist jobs is to know who are the good influencers for them. Rangers fan 1996. I'm on form. Hell yeah. Love the show as always. My kid, I wish, was just spitting facts this weekend.

She's getting funnier and funnier, man. Like we, like I was, I said, I was with her at one point. I said, Macy, I don't want to do this right now.

Let's move. We got to do other things. She goes, dad, sometimes in life, we got to make decisions and things we don't want to do. You are so screwed. She is so screwed. She is hilarious. I get off whatever hair you've got left. I know.

She's sitting in the back of the car. She watches my spenometer all the time. She goes, Dad, you speed it. Dad, you're speeding. I go, cut it out. I go, I know. I'm five over. And she goes, let me ask you a question.

I go, what? And she goes, why do you get so mad? And everybody else breaks her rule. but when you break the rules, it's okay. Tell Maisie, we've all been saying that for years. You've been saying that for years about Christian. But, dude, I have, I mean, let me see it. I'm going to play the audio because I don't want to show the video, but she's a human

YouTube comment thread come to lie. She's hilarious. She did a, and we're playing in the backyard. And at nowhere, she comes up like, it was like a shy, I did not tell her to say any of this. It's like a shy of Leboof speaking of a video. She just casually walks up and then just starts doing this motivational, yelling out of nowhere watch she she goes she goes near she goes into the dog she comes back what she said the end why still filming it was it was the best it was the best

it was so good I need to be motivational stuff with I'm telling you she just started doing it I said to my wish you told her to say that I said it totally none of that Mike Joyce was Godot hamming it up or she just an awful actor I think a little bit of both. I don't mind her acting as much as John does, but she, it was hard to argue with John after that movie.

She's really bad in it. She's really bad in the movie. She is only good if you have the right director. She's only, and Mark Webb was not going to be the one to get a great performance out of her. And kudos to Pat Patty Jenkins, who got one great performance out of her that she's been living off of.

Honestly, she was all right. The Fast and Furious movie. Oh, please. 30 people at that movie. I'm just saying, though, like she was, she just was not, she was not goodness.

On Earth Sirens Incorporated, I'm kind of glad studios are saying they want to scale back on political messaging. When the messaging is coming from a boardroom, you can always tell. That's kind of the point that John was making. Yeah. Hersey part more than it helps.

Yeah, I, we're all on the same page here. Yeah, I think the messaging can still be there. You just don't have to hang a lantern on it. Don't preach. Don't preach. Don't preach. Do let the movie speak for itself. Exactly.

100%. Right. Ryan King. Hello, friends. So Jason Statham's Working Man is coming out this week, directed by David Air. It looks like you're going to be speaking for the beekeeper, which is only year away.

I have not watched a trailer. I don't want to know anything about it. You have always one trailer for Working Man? Nope. I don't know. I want to know nothing about it. I know I can tell you what it is. I can tell you exactly what the movie is and it's going to deliver.

That's all I want. That's it. It's exactly what I want it to be, and I'm going to go in. I'm going tonight for work, but I'm going as much as I am for work. I'm going as a fan. I'm going to just sit back and just watch Jason Statham, kick ass and say, you know what I'm like?

That's it. Ryan King. I've seen Snow White twice now. Hey, man. I'd say it's probably my third favorite live action remake behind Cinderella and Little Mermaid. That's Ryan. I love the new feeling story plus the OG stuff was out there too. Now, this is my point.

Okay. Ryan can go ahead and say that, right? Right. And he can tweet it up. Now, if Ryan made YouTube videos, Ryan would get destroyed in the comment section for his honest opinion of what he thought about the most. You're a shill, right? He's a shill. He's a left-wing person.

He did this. He voted for this person. He does this. He's a soy boy. He does blah-b-b-bos. Just because he did that. Just because he did that. Yeah.

And it's like you can't win. You can't win. But Ryan King is just posting a comment. So he can see whatever he wants to say. But it's just like, you know, it is what it is. Ryan, I'm glad you enjoyed the movie movie movie. Ditto. Yeah.

Okay. Next one. Again, we got 60, John. 60. It's a good start for Monday. Come on. You get to 100 before we go. There are some angry people who are making comments.

Send in some comments. So I can't. Come on, y'all. Jake, I think I'm done with trailers minus initial teasers. I think I'm with you, Jake. I feel like the less I see is something I'm excited for, the more pumped I am going in. Cal got mad at me the other day because I said that,

because I kept talking about sinners where I wish that sinners didn't show everything that it showed. Sinners show too much. I'm going to really go. That's this month, obviously, and I can't wait to see it. I wish I knew nothing about it. I know too much about that movie already, you know. Or you think.

Or I think. That's a great point. I do hope that I come out and go, look, that was a trailer. Well, they duped me. They duped me. So. I have a feeling he is doing that. I hope so.

I hope so. But the problem is that it's not the director that makes the decision on the trailers. It's the studios. That's true. That's the problem. So I think that I'm with you, Jake. I don't like the past that initial trailer. I'm not really on board with them.

Artem, take what you play Ray in the new Star Wars movie, bam. It's just a bummer now because I think John's 100% right. I think for now she's got to just go back to smaller films for a while. Yeah, just build herself back up again. Rangers fan. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out both sides of the odds are seeing it,

so probably shouldn't shit on either side. Hollywood would be dumb. Yeah, exactly what it is. But that's not Hollywood on that necessarily. Because I don't think it was, I don't think it was a studio that was going after everybody. It was it was her. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Next one after that. Thank you, Rangers fan. Do you go any Rangers games so far this year? Me? No. I don't know what Rangers fan is he.

Is he a New York Rangers fan or is a Texas Rangers? Good call. Good call. I'm going to guess. I'm going to say he's a Texas Rangers fan. Yeah. But he hasn't been any games, obviously. Chris, Corcor, Corcoran.

Corcoran. I think Rachel. I think Rachel will have a future in theater with her recent Romeo and Julia. Apparently she's great in that too. Romeo and Julia Broadway show selling very well. She was also cast in Aveda and Lennon. That's a great point by Chris. I think that that's where maybe she should live for a while is in theater.

She loves it. She's young enough to do the schedule, you know, do it. Knock it out. And she's great. And she'll probably, and that's a great spot for her. I think you're right, Chris. I think that Rachel should live on the, the Broadway circuit for a while because that's

she's built for it. She's already a great actress. It'll make her even better. Yeah. As an actress. So yeah, why not? Why not? She's, she's a real. I mean, she's a phenomenal singer. Is she going to be in the next Hunger Games, too? Yes, I think so. Yes. Okay. All right, next one. And this is from

Darth Vader's burnt asshole. Watch the new Ander trailer. I will not. I am not, not watching. I refuse. It's only a minute, 22 seconds. Come on. I refuse. I'm not watching. Troy Ortiz. Roca, is Disney obligated to be a culture warrior company at the risk of losing money

or a company that stays out of politics to make great movies? I think they want to have, I think they're saying all the right things, but Disney's brand has always been about inclusion and diversity and respect. And like, go back to the classic films. It's always outsiders who are trying to be accepted by a society that doesn't want to accept them.

With Cinderella, because she's poor, right? And with Snow White, it's the same kind of thing, because of the jealousy of it all. So there's always this kind of stuff that goes on within it. But it's about people coming together to fight a common evil, right? So that's always been the message of these movies. I think you've got to make great movies, though, as we said earlier. It's got to be about not hanging a lantern on stuff, making great movies, honoring your foundation. Because that's why people watch these old school Disney movies, but not making a big deal out of it.

So I think they realize that now this is the better business model to go down. I mean, you think Andor's not going to be super effing political about a political. And that's a pretty damn show. It's a political thriller, right, but it's not a matter of the way, again, the way it's promoted. Right. No one is saying anything about anything about what it's alluded to. That's the material speak for itself. Exactly.

Yeah. Corn Emperor. John sets the tone. The girl shatter the ceiling. And Coy and Winston sometimes break the mold. Harloff always wins. So I don't know if I always win. Thank you.

Very nice, corn. Appreciate that. Go pal. The teacher from Final Destination, one, did a series called Space Above and Beyond when I was in high school. It held up on the rewatch a few years ago. Yeah, I'm looking forward to watching that with Tina and I think, you know,

oh, so here's something also, so Sadie and I were going to, because we're going to watch, she's never seen the Ironcloth, so we're going to watch that one. But over the weekend, we were looking for a movie to find a watch together, and I discovered that she's never seen Stepbrothers. Oh, neither of I. I have only I've only seen it once and I don't remember it at all okay remember that I just thought it was like everybody loves it and I remember going yeah

But I'm gonna because we watched like the first minute or two and she started laughing like wait a minute Turn this off right now I said let's watch this together for that'll be your movie and so we're gonna watch that one together We're gonna watch um yeah we'll watch that uh Brian O'Neill watched the nightingale for the first time last night a brutal brilliant film green book and bohemian rhapsody getting oscar and wins over it is a crime which one is the nightingale ian gal is the set in a um earlier time in american history and i think i think it's or is it irish but she's uh it's a it's a rate that goes oh shit yeah it's jennifer kent is the director and um she's the one that recently did the bob she did the babadook uh and monster so she's a really good uh director and that film is burruth tell

no thing. Yeah. Carlton Rudder, London calling. So, here you go. Started to watch season three of Reach, her favorite season so far. I'm on this before. Christian, love the big balls versus AI sketches. Thank you. We'll catch the show tomorrow. Well, you'll be waiting for you. We'll be waiting for. Season three is the best season of reach. I heard. I heard. Go pal. When Twister started, I wondered why Kiernan and Shipka wasn't in any of the press. And I was like, oh. Yeah. Yeah, I was surprised that Helen Hunt didn't do a cameo in that movie.

though. She has to do in part two, right? She has to, yeah. I thought, you know, I thought it would have been perfect that they made her, what's her face, his mom? Yeah, a lot of people expected that. I am Savvy Mike 96 TV. What's up, Savvy Mike? Never catch a show live, so I'm here to support the outlaw.

Well, just the outlaw, all right, well, then you're fine. How do you all feel about the Roman punk Rollins match at Mania? We did discuss it a little bit. It wasn't in the camp initially, but are you coming around on it? on that on a triple threat was i not on it um i just think that because you know punk i think that i just don't know how much longer they have before he hurt himself again he's been healthy you know knock on wood i know right that's what i mean so it's like how long before he gets an actual main

event um and goes for a title and those things um but i mean they're and we've just seen him fight seth so many times but the fact that romans in it it makes it obviously more interesting and i feel like i mean set's got to do the job in that situation right probably Yeah, you would assume so. I mean, the question of who's going to win it, though. Right, right. Unless if, if Paul helps punk beat Roman, that would be pretty interesting, too. So I think the reason why I like it, because I think it has the most potential for the most story.

I think it's going to steal the night. Whatever night it's on, I think it's going to steal the night. Yeah, I think, I think story-wise, it's got the most potential because it's the one, I mean, the scene of stuff obviously has a lot of potential too, but like, I'm telling you, dude, that Jay Uso Goonther match is going to be a DUD. It's going to be a dud. It's going to be a dud.

On the NFL network this morning promoting the J match and trying to build up J. And it's like, man, people see through that, dude. Yeah. Johnny Venerable. Batman Part 2 is going to be canceled. Don't convince me otherwise. I don't think I'm going to try

to convince you otherwise. They need to do right by Pattinson and make him the DCU Batman, whoever that works. You know, he's, look, the crazy thing is he's almost 40 right yeah and the batman that they're trying to get for even the bold is supposed to be like you know mid 40s by the time they shoot it he's probably going to be close to it it's very possible that the batman part two will have an illusion to guns universe yeah i do it make it you know if they make it sci-fi fantasy yeah they said which we really didn't touch out in that article

yeah that is your bridge that's absolutely yeah because that's that's That's the biggest argument. The biggest argument is all it's based in realism. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I am savvy Mike, support for the outlaw. Just the outlaw. That's it. Mike says, I hope you win this week, John. Well, he's doing well. He's at 75, thus. Seventy-five, nice. 74. Josh Needle will film discourse ever be rid of the culture or BS. Not anytime soon, or is just part of it now. I'm exhausted and just want to enjoy talking about movies again. Unfortunately, it's until the politics, in this country change it'll be the same because it's ammo it's ammo for both sides i think until i think until trump dies this will be the thing that and i'm not in any way you're just saying in general as long one else is going to be able to do what he has done to this country in terms of the culture wars no one there's no one coming behind him that has that yeah but i also think there's also john the thing is too that i i will say that i do think as we were talking about this today i think that there's in in that people have also bounced back against preachy stuff too right yeah i think that every like

and we're not getting into politics here too but i think the democratic party needs to radically change if they have any chance of doing anything um and yeah and i think that for what because depending on what leadership comes into republican party is this is a lot there's a lot but that does go into this it corrupts everything which is the culture war stuff and that will happen for quite a while if sniders even talking politics when we do hot mic you know that it's now bleeding into everything it's part of it and as long as you can make money off of it it it'll also still exist 100% yeah a Laurentia uh fd what's fd i don't know me made me oh uh yeah to follow a log trucks agreed i got i don't remember i don't remember what you're

talking about so i'm sure it has to do a log truck there's the same way the logs come up i Whenever I see a log truck, I drop around. Sad movie guy. With the economy getting worse, is it possible that these summer movies, Superman Fantastic Ford, don't do well regardless of quality? Who can afford a trip to movies in every day expense? Can you rise? No, because the thing is with summer movies,

it still carries what movies need them to carry, and that's escapism. Yep. And it also carries air conditioning. It during the summertime. So that's well. Yeah. So when people go to see.

And it's like now because of the expensive, as I mentioned many times over, when it comes to families and other things, there might be a pick and choose of what you're going to see. It used to be like, yeah, let's go to the movies this week. And it's also a generational thing. Kids don't like when we were kids, we want to go to the movies every week. Kids want to look at their, they want to scroll on their phones. That's what they want to do today. So you got to get, it's a matter of which movie it is, but it's not, but they're not, those movies will do pretty big because there's enough of a. audience for them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, agree. The way they don't do well.

Or at this point, not sure Batman 2 happens unless they fold it in. Elscorles in general, I doubt. Why make anything outside new university building? I think we both agree. Yeah. I agree. This point just, I think, I think Matt Reeves got up to bend the knee. Yeah. I am two fly cam. I appreciate both your viewpoints, but only one side of the aisle thinks it's a pushing agenda to have a lead character. that's woman or not white well wait pushing not necessarily um not necessarily that's not that's actually not true from what i what i told you before of those two people that i've mentioned they're they're on they're on that side of the aisle and they still feel like there's an agenda being pushed

in general so no i i i don't i don't agree with that at all i now i do i do agree that that's the louder of the sides that uh for sure but no i i think that the reason why it's also not I think a lot of people are, as John said it, I mean, John's about his, he's not going to argue with me on this. John's pretty far left and he's going to, he, even he's saying, you got to, you got to focus on the movie, not just to do it. Yeah, yeah, you got to respect the representation now. This has been so much of it. Now you've got to respect it. Do it right.

Right. Trevor Jenkins. Hey, guy. Any opinion on magazine games? I didn't see it. Did you see it, John? You're going to see it. We're going to watch a movie on Wednesday, much love you, but I do want to see it. I do want to see it.

I think the guy, I mean, he's really, really good actor. It really is. Red Jack. People think it's funny when Harrison Ford or Robert Patton's and Trash his movies they're in, but Zagos says Snow White is outdated is too. No. Not even close to the same thing. You're kidding, Red Jack.

You're kidding. You are kidding. Give me examples of both. You're, stop it. Give me an example of them doing it while they were doing the press store promotion for that movie. Harrison did not bash anything. He's not being serious. He's kidding. He's kidding. That's, that's a joke.

Because Harrison Ford is, is like laughs when he's doing this. It never actually trashes the movie. Hadson trash in Twilight 10 years later is not the same with that. While you actively promoted, he was kidding. He wasn't serious. Tim Sim, hope everyone's weekend was good. Thoughts on this road to WrestleMania. I find all the one title match buildup going well. That one, gointerverse J. Yep, for the heavyweight title. It has nothing of note unless there's a higher stand.

But I'm not you Tim. When I said this before, remember that one guy that kept giving me shit in the comments section? You know what you're talking about? Jay Uso is a main event guy. He's like, no, he's not. Clearly, it's not working. It's not working. I'm improving judgment until the matter.

You are, you are quietly in my corner. Don't think I didn't, don't think I didn't notice you just beforehand say, yeah, it's not a love. and Seth Rollins trying to build them up. He's trying. And we know what you're doing there. Coming from the guy that was like, yeah, this guy is. He's not a main event guy.

You know it as well as I do. I had to see the match. I haven't seen the match before. But I'm looking at your corner for sure. I'm not over there, but I'm looking at. You're almost. It's not going to be a hard sell.

Tim is in my corner. And that's right. But there's a lot of the other buildup, I think so far has been asked to your question. Tim, first of all, thank you with a very generous. Good Asian. Secondly,

I think the road's been pretty good so far. You got some time to build it And let's see I mean I haven't been watching To build up to Charlotte and Tiffie How's that been? Charlotte ate her for lunch on Smackdown It was pretty

Yeah they had a They had like you and I right now Yeah It was a back and forth like this on Zoom Yeah It was she tore her to pieces Tiffie didn't have anything Tiff couldn't come back

Because Charlotte was going off on her own Like she was going on like she does And Tiff couldn't She couldn't hang All right James Meple What percent? blamed you give Last Jedi for the amount of

hater content out there. I would say that it was the Big Bang moment for them. I agree. 100% I agree. It was the one because I always say how, for me, I remember the first time I ever saw Vitriol and didn't understand it in the comment section

was when we reviewed Man of Steel. I liked a lot. Ellis did not. And Ellis, who everyone loves, got murdered in the comments. I didn't understand it. I was like, is this just a DC thing or DC fans just horrible? What's happening? And that happened and it was only DC for like two years. Yeah. Yeah. And then I'm like, I remember thinking, oh man, we have a, we have a life.

Star Wars fans over here. Everybody, Star Wars fans are wonderful. I'm like, oh, they do the Force Awakens come to everybody's. Cumbaya holding hands, crying in the trailer. Everybody, nobody. And then Rogue One comes out. Everybody's, yeah, Star Wars is amazing. Last Jedi comes out and it was like a bomb exploded inside of the fandom in general. It was the whole dole maneuver. That movie is the whole dome maneuver. It split the thing in half. Totally did.

Totally did. Tim Sim, what a time to be alive and everyone from all over the political spectrum is all celebrating the Snow White Live Action remake flopping. Anyways, have a great weekend. I don't know if everybody is necessarily celebrating it, but they certainly came to again. of not watching it yeah yeah and that's basically it and I don't think I don't think anybody from the left side's like celebrating didn't do well it's more the other side

but like it's it's in the end it's just I don't understand why it's become such a massive cultural it's just such a lightweight film to have such a massive cultural touchpoint be about it hey dog Westmore Kendrick Theo Vaughan space balls comedy movie return I don't know. Is Theo Vaughn doing a, oh, is Theo Vaughn and Kendrick? Are they both, are they in space balls? I have no idea, maybe. Is that, was that, I didn't know.

Kendrick has a thing coming out with the South Park guys in July, but I don't think about a spaceball situation. Nathan Drake, love the Valnet discussion on the hot mic. Jeff calling people MF her and say, they'll spit on them, have me cracking up. You both had good point. I actually happened, I watched that whole segment. There was a lot. that that I actually agreed with Jeff but like I you know Jeff Jeff who I love I think

sometimes lets his emotions get the best of them I think that maybe telling you know it may be saying something along the lines we've even Roker trying to say it from one point he's like figuratively you fit out you spit on them figuratively and just like but and I I will say this I have we're speaking about Rob Keys I actually I've had nothing but pleasant interactions Rob Keyes I've never worked Rob Keyes Rob Keyes has always been very, very sweet to me. I've had great conversations with him. I have nothing to say bad about Rob Keyes.

I don't know what's going on with those things. So I can't say. But clearly, Jeff has his own issues with Rob. And the same way I told you that I can't say a negative word about Frosty. Because Frosty and I get along very well, and he's done nothing but right by me. So I can't, you know, I don't have anything poorly to say about him. But I did think your conversation was great. Thank you, man.

Thank you. I thought it was good conversation. And I think I'm right in. that there needs to be a further exploration. It doesn't have to stop at the validate executives. You have to find out who are the people complicit in pushing their, their agendas on these companies and willfully underpaying these writers and being a part of it so they can get their salaries.

Like there's a lot to explore here. And I hope Umberto goes the next level with the rap and explores more about this and find out who else is involved, who else knew about this stuff and who participated in the stuff. It's important. You can't just go after the name. sorry, these phantom executives, you got to go after your friends as well.

This is the game if you're really going to be an investigative reporter. Tiberius Monk. Hey, Christian, John. Well, Zagher's PR skills could use some works. She should be given grace. There are far more difficult actors like Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds, or Josh Brolin, who is on record, D.H. Josh Brolin, what Josh Brolin did?

Domestic assault charges of dialogue during the day. Yeah, but I mean, that's, so, okay, so same thing, right? And I don't know the history between them. I don't know how far we are removed from. I don't know any conversations, but like we're the difference with again, Tevier is with Rachel Ziegler. We're talking about right now. And in the same way with Blake lively and Ryan Reynolds,

or maybe like detached a little bit, but we're talking about in the now, right now. So given grace in like a year, two years, I mean, I think the Josh Prolin stuff is what, five,

10 years, whatever it might be. I mean, at least, uh, you know, so given grace right now, I,

if I'm, if I'm a Disney executive looking at my, my money, No, I don't agree with you. Now, as an audience member in a few years from now, okay, she pops up another thing, even a year for not. For me, I don't care. I'll go see whatever.

It doesn't bother me. But for other people, I think Grace could come later on. But the question also is, how is she going to be with that with, how she can be with this? She's going to keep tweeting? She's going to keep doing Instagram? I hope she says, because there are two different types of people. there there there's one person that goes all right you know what i'm going to put this phone down it's not

helping me or f the system i'm going to tweak 10 times as much now yeah i don't know who she is that's the thing she may not want the grace she may not even need the grace because she's going to be who she's going to be and that's that's that so there's a possibility on that as well i hear your point but blake is getting blake is getting destroyed so she is there's not like an idea that she's somehow not getting the same kind of treatment. So there is a balance in that way. Reynolds, that's more like stuff in the wind.

The Brolin stuff is 10 years ago. So yeah, there's a difference. Can I show you my age? Baste is a compliment, right? Based is a compliment, yes. Okay, good. Because I almost deleted somebody.

And I said, wait a minute, I think it's a compliment. It is. I left it alone. For the kids. Okay. Yeah. That shows you,

I don't know shit. anyway Julius Wyatt just became a member how do I access the comic PLD help us out how do we access the comment here for the members I think that we

post links and stuff too but PLD will you'll just put a comment in there and I'll light it up and show people how to do it take a break stop shitting in my hat and tell them how to get the comic yeah tell them how to get the comic because you want to read the comic and thank you becoming a member

Nathan Drake I think there's a lot of fans Kevin Smith being one of them who say they don't have much interest in Star Wars unless it's about Skywalker's or Jedi. Well, I mean, I think that that's also because that's all you're really giving them to work with, right? You got to make good stories in general and get people talking. You can you, you can go, I think that I'm telling you, Knights or Republic is where you go. It really is, but now whether they have to do that, I don't know. Yeah. I'm not sure. And I don't know if Kevin Smith really said that. I got to look at that quote up. I don't know if you

would say that. Yeah. Yeah. That's hilarious. Someone said that my daughter could be a pro wrestler cutting promos. A hundred percent. Probably could. She does like wrestling. Better than some of the people we see doing it now. She does.

She got better mic skills than a lot of these people. Hank Pim, Snow White was fine. I felt gal's inability to act eventually helped her playing the super corny over-the-top villain. Her song was actually my favorite. I didn't mind her song, but the reason over-the-top thing didn't work, like, look, okay, look, let's talk about mirror-mirror, mirror. that entire movie is over the top.

So what Julia Roberts is doing and against what Lily Collins is doing and what Army Hammer, they're all doing the same thing. Whether you like that movie or not, they're all doing the same thing. Like, it's not like one person's out of place.

Everybody's doing the same thing in that movie. Terrible acting. This, what's that? Terrible acting. Go ahead. Nonetheless, though, it's like you look at what this is, she's in a different movie.

Yeah, no, 100%. Yes. Yeah. Nathan Drake. Godot reportedly paid $15 million. Yeah. What? You're a million.

You're out of mind. Million? Million. What is she just starting? Drake's getting weird numbers from weird places. I don't know. Look that up. There's no world.

There's no world that she made. I told you at a minimum she made three. It's like, 15? I mean, it's a different time. 15? With a $240 million budget?

Probably. Probably. If your budget's 240 and I'm an act. If I was, If I was in Wonder Woman, regardless of my acting skills or not, and I know your budget, if I'm, if I'm Galgado's agent, I mean, you got Wonder Woman in this movie, you got a $240 million budget, you're paying her a million dollars,

sniff my balls, give her 10. Okay, Mike Joyce, did you finish severance yet? What a finale. No, I started watching it, the Patricia Arquette won, and then I got interrupted when we watched 1923, which is incredible this season. Yeah. Um, okay, corn emperor.

Where is Roca? It's right here. I think, I'm not sure. Uh, corner member, make sure to like and subscribe. Yes, please do that. Corn emperor, support. Thank you. Uh, Ryan King, believe it or not,

I do do reviews and I've been on YouTube for 12 years on YouTube. The comments I got in snow fight. I've not been terrible. I was surprised. You've been my inspiration. Ryan, that's very kind. And I'm glad that you didn't get destroyed on the, uh, on the comments. Happy to hear that.

There's no official word on any of the salaries. It's just rumors. It's just rumors that she made 15 and gal made two. That's the rumors, but nothing is verified. So, okay, let's see. Next one. Oh, man, that's horrible. I didn't even know about this.

Brett Gardner's son died. Yes, that was over the weekend. His 14-year-old son. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's heartbreaking, very heartbreaking. Oh, poor Brett Gardner. Oh, that's horrible.

Oh, it's fucking horrible. Chris, not a Yankee fan of a father, but as a father, prayers the player, the lusts, Sunder. That's, oh, that's so horrible. Yeah, yeah. Oh, thank you, Chris. Oh, man. Sean McCabe, Roker, let's do a war movie reaction for Army 250.

You got the issue doing. Let's make it happen. Ryan King, I'm a soy boy. Is that what you said? I love it. I swear to God, that's my favorite thing. When they come in with the soy boy stuff, I laugh my nuts off. It is such a weak-ass insult that you're just like, oh, come on.

Is this really? I get a kick. I do get a kick. It's hilarious. It's like, that's what you're going. That's my career. That's my career. Rangers in 1996.

Neither team. Soccer team. Black Cow Rangers. Oh, okay. John should have a little slap. us around about the champion's league a couple years ago there you go so i love glad go to me yeah i mean stephen gerard was your manager for a while won the title won the lead title with them yeah man respect to the rangers love them uh and Celtic don't come from me either side okay

eric kirby roka name a comic that is not popular with the mainstream public you would like to see made into a movie live or animated or series uh identity crisis the one where uh that one of the superheroes wives murders one of the superheroes that's an awesome awesome story and i wish if dc wanted to go dark that could be a really fun thing to explore yeah cupcake bliss the great mj said republicans buy sneakers too yeah can we get he kind of said that right walked it back but yeah can we get back to the time where we don't hear about actors political opinions much well wait there's a difference here it's a loser you and i are in a different you are going to be on the same page on this there's a difference it depends

I don't mind. I want to make that very clear. I don't mind. You want to give your political opinions on your, like this, I can't stand when people say, hey, I follow you on Twitter because I don't, because I like you in your movies. I don't want to hear you opinions. Then don't follow my personal Twitter. Exactly. I mean, I don't post Twitter.

I'm just saying in general. Right. But there, you can do whatever you want. And as John said before, you're on some, you're on some, you know, let's say Matt Damon goes on some political show to talk politics. Yeah.

free game. For me, I hate it at the Oscars unless it's the movie itself is political and you're making a statement, you win, you talk about the movie itself. But if you just, you win for a comedy and you start talking about some political thing and going after whoever, that's stupid. And then when you're promoting a movie like Snow White and you make it political, then I'm against that type of stuff. But giving their political opinions in general, I don't think that's fair. Well, the overall foundation of the question is ridiculous because Hollywood actors have been giving their opinion since the 1930s and 20s about political stuff. They've campaigned for FDR. They've been out there giving their political opinions during interviews and junkets back then for film.

So do your research. Do your, I mean, look at the 70s actors. They were dumping all kinds of political opinions throughout all their interviews about the movies they were doing. So this is not something new. It's just people have turned this into a marketing thing for themselves. to go after this. And why should you get a political opinion but an actor doesn't?

Who are you? That you should only get a political opinion but not an actor. That's nonsense. I just think there's a time and place for it. I don't disagree with that. That's a business thing and I understand that. Hank Pim, who, when should end breakers reign, Fautu?

Yes. I think that Fatu should be, I think that you should, these are the two, I'll tell you what, and I think you said it recently. Ron's getting good on the mic. Yes, he is. Yes, he is.

I thought, I was worried about him at first when he came in. I'm like, are you just going to be grunting and saying like, he's really good on the mic? Yes, he is. And he's like, he's like, you know, very well-spoken dude and like the way that he's, I've heard him on other things and like he's, he can be funny also and like there's things that.

This is your next guy. Oh, 100%. You just can't find a ring strong enough to put him and Fatu in that will be destroyed. I know. Get wrecked. Yeah, he, who's he fighting at,

at WrestleMania? I don't think they've said. I haven't seen it yet. Okay. Yeah. I watch Raw tonight and get all that lined up. Yeah. All of an earth you rock.

Rachel is three quarters white. Latinos can be white, black, brown, Asian. It's an ethnic label and not a racial. It's fair. Yeah. Fair. Avento follows it up.

Anyone mad about a supposed race swap is either ignorant or racist that believes in the one drop rule. I thought the way that they, I knew people were still going to piss people off, but I thought the way that they handled it. I was like, okay, how are they going to explain skin as fair as snow or whatever they said is white as snow and I was like when I saw him how they're like oh okay they did it that way it's gonna piss everybody off but that's how they're

telling this story it's a multiverse story so this is okay isn't the greatest race swap jesus i mean Jesus is described as a brown skin dude from the middle east in the bible he's not described as a white dude yet he's a white dude in all these paintings so it's like they're picking and choosing things to be upset about and it's not fully like consistent and I think that's my problem with that kind of stuff. So anyway, Philly G. Thank you, Philly. Did you hear the latest rumor from the rumor? The Yanks are trading for a big hitting pitcher from Boston. Please tell me, you told Roka about your two goofs from last Friday that resulted in

the new thing. What did you go? I read this article about Anna Darmus doing this Sony movie. The one where she was, oh, it was a new kind of spin-off Sony villain movie or something from the Spider-Man thing. It was from December of 2023. Then I did another one. It did that happen, dude. Then I did a second one.

It might have been an anonymous again, but I did another one. Too long after, but it was funny. And someone just said, I think it might have been. It might have been in Ph. I'm not sure, but somebody just wrote F. It's perfect. It's hilarious. We're laughing our ass love about it.

But no, I didn't hear anything. Who were they trying to, they're... I don't know who the picture they're going for. I don't know what they're... We were about to start this. season this Thursday, so I don't know. Dude, my buddy just texted me the other day. You're going?

What? I'm going to the Yankees versus Mets in May. Nice. Nice. Yeah, it's going to be crazy with the What's His Face Soto back. Yeah. Cooley High. Hey, guys. Fam didn't want to watch Snow White this weekend. Yeah, waiting for Disney Plus. I think that is another. I agree.

I think a lot of people said, is it worth spending the money on? Yeah. We refer to Disney Plus. It just didn't feel like I got to see this in theaters. Yeah. I think that that was a massive reason. I agree. It wasn't that. It'll do great numbers on Disney play. I agree. In the same way that the Red One did. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Tiberius Monk. Life question for Christian and John, name of a time where you stood up for what you believed in, even when it was difficult to do so. I mean, just check, I don't know, John, you can pick five times from John on Twitter the last week.

I was just going to say, a day that ends in Y. A day that ends in Y. Yeah, I'm trying to think for me. I'll give me one for Christian. When he, when he stood up a about the school shootings and the gun i thought that was a very you don't you don't usually make principal stances about political stuff or or like inflammatory political stuff on social media when you spoke about it after school shooting a few years ago i thought that was a pretty amazing thing to do when you risked people coming back at you for it so i i will say that i'll give you credit for that one i'll steal that one from john that's one i did uh wild man beyond i'm surprised you haven't you haven't watched the final episode i did i watched the whole thing yeah

yeah watched the whole season Maybe they got confused with severance or whatever. No, maybe you just didn't hear me talk about it. I missed the episode. I talked about it. But I did. I saw it and I really liked that. I thought it was a great finale.

I thought the guys did. I actually reached out to Josh, John, and Hayden. And congratulated them on a great season. A great series in general. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're at 84, John. 84, as we're reaching towards the end of the show here. Okay.

Pretty damn good. Not too sad. Unheard, Sirens Incorporated. Javis Gunther is going to open night too. Good. And be a main event, not a main event. Yeah, agreed. Smart.

It should because you know why that would work? You get the audience moving. Yep. Get a move. But, and then they're probably given the title, and then they'll take it off of him in like three months. I don't know now. The reaction to his botch last week has been pretty brutal.

We'll see. Why don't have to say these things? And people don't listen to me. What's that? Remember that guy that was in the comment section? Oh, you just like, like I don't watch the product enough. So I don't know that Jay Uso is a main event wrestler. And everyone is turning against the net.

Yeah, it's getting. Yeah. Because you can, there's only so long you can, you fake it until you make it. But I mean, you know, it's only so long you can fake it until you don't make it. That's a good point. Nerds engage. Why does John A. Frosting? I don't hate him as a person.

It's just that there's the way that he conducts business. And I know from behind the scenes stuff. And I had three people, three former employees who've worked under him, text me this weekend and tell me, you were right about him. He does a lot of nefarious shit behind the scenes to his employees. And the publicists from the studios only deal with him because he's a necessary evil. So this is the thing that people need to understand. I'm not those like it's not personal all right it's just that I have hard been hard done by him I know he's hard done other people is that personal yeah but it's different it's business right it's business you know I have a personal thing with Fernandez with the way he handled the way he let us go but it doesn't mean I wouldn't have a conversation with Mark if I was running into him right yeah Frosty wanted to have conversation always open for it but he's done some pretty nefarious stuff and the fact the three people reached out to me over the weekend and I'm not talking low red people low level people we're talking people who've

work with him at higher levels who reached out to me and said, yeah, you were right about him. He's done this and this and this. So it's this thing that goes on. It's not about personal. Like I said, it's hard for me. Exactly. You have a different experience. I have a relationship with Frosty.

And so I can't, I can't speak on that. But that's your own experience. While I'm beyond, Cobre Khy, thoughts on the final. It's great. It's really, really solid. I liked it a lot. Campia's face pimple. Hey, what's Snow White Live action?

movie is better mirror mirror it's got uh jill robinson you're so insane what that's such a terrible movie she's great man oh you're insane she's so let's show really asked for that movie i don't know if there's a good live action snowy head i just gave it to no you did green hey john thanks for speaking up on social issues whatever happens in the future at least no one can't can't say you that you stood by and watched yeah yeah i mean look and and i don't know if that's a big on me or not I have no idea. I don't think so. Like, because I do think there's a time for people that do that.

Like, because I don't feel like I'm standing by and watching because just because I don't necessarily go, hey, you know what I'm, and it's not a shot on John, but not because I'm going to go, hey, you know what I feel like today? And how do you feel like that? You want to go at it? You want to do it? You want to do it? Just because I don't do that, you don't know what I do.

What else I do conversations I have? So how the hell do you know? And I'm not saying that you are green. I'm just saying that if people say that, I always take issue with people who, you're not. like, well, they're not speaking up about it, and they're not using their platform. I had someone say that to me once. I don't feel like you use your platform enough to, you know, it's like, you don't think I use my platform enough to express your beliefs.

Right. That's what you're saying. Right. And if I don't, that I'm not on your team. That's what it comes down to. That's where we're at. If I don't, if I don't use my platform, that I'm not, that I'm not fighting the same fight, then I shouldn't be associated with if that's the case.

And I remember, I remember that person. that to me and i'm just like oh that's that's what we're dealing with i think everyone is different and everyone is called in different ways to do the things that they think is works for them and you have to create space for that i am driven to speak out about these things it's like i need air to breathe it's not i don't force myself to do it it is literally a natural extension of who i am so you know and i get a lot of crap for it right so but i don't i don't fall christian for however he chooses to do it I don't fault anybody. However, they choose to do it because, look, there's,

I've never had a problem with Christians saying anything negative towards any race, anybody's gender, anybody's sexual orientation. I wouldn't be friends with him if he did. Like there's just like, and we've been friends for over 20 years, almost 30 years. And so it's like, to me, this is an indicator of the kind of people that I hang out with. And so they may know be overt by it, but they're very much, I think their hearts in the good place. Yeah, we'll say that you've never once ever said to me, hey, man, how come you don't speak up more on social media?

You've never once ever said that to me. Chris Corkman, not to talk politics, but someone who follows the guy's situation for over a year. I've seen a ton of people refuse to see Star Wars because, or Snow White, because of Gal's statements. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that has a lot to be with it also, for sure. Absolutely. And that's what we talked about at the beginning, though, too,

is the difference to me is that, again, it's where she comes from. It doesn't mean you have to agree with her points of view. Right, right. But I think that people should go, like, it's not like she's not, she's not just randomly saying, hey, know what, this is who I support because where she's from. yeah she was in the she was in the military right yes she served two years that it's the made it boy thing yeah right uh galaxy you just became a member

who's what's going on as a producer on the show that all happened what to give him a free membership you should make a day now you know i think he is what the hell he's doing anyway uh philly g someone else gave you the f the big hitting picture was the babe okay oh no now oh oh oh oh oh This is the joke. I get it. I missed it over my head. Fully High, is it crazy that I'm super excited for working out?

No. No. They deliver it on beekeeper. Yeah, it was so much fun, man. They know these kinds of movies, dude. They know exactly what they're making. They know what they're doing. Tiberius Monk.

Name a film that you impacted your life in a special way. Mine is Chef. That's a great movie. A film by John Frabber reminds me is never truly for a new beginning. Great one. Strangely enough, and again, I'll bring up another Julie Roberts one for you, closer. Oh.

Because I was going through a really bad breakup about a week after I, a week before I saw that movie. And it was like therapy. It was really like that. Like there was that moment where actually Clive Owen tells Julie Roberts go fuck herself, right? And like it, I felt like I was at a Yankee game and John Laveritz just hit a home run.

And I was like, yeah, it was great. Yeah, it was really good. Yeah, mine's probably Malcolm X. I saw it in my early 20s at a time when I was really kind of lost about what I want to do with my life. And there's a great line. And I got to say this to Zen to Denzel through because Collider sent me for that Equalizer to PressConf or a junket. I got to tell Denzel, like that line when he says that you never should never be part of something that you don't know the people who are part of it, that you don't explore the people are part of it. And you should pick your life.

And there was just something about it that just hit me at the right time. it changed my life. So yeah, no, Matt McH. Eric Kirby. Roker, are you watching Invincenta? Great season. I have to catch up. I'm sorry. It's all behind and everything. Dino.

Spamoni. Look, guys, I agree that we need to market to both sides of the aisle about people who use racial serves like Snow Brown isn't a side of the aisle. They're loud assholes in the background. Who's disagreeing with that? Yeah. I don't think anybody disagrees with that. We're talking about rational people.

We're going to be two different things. I mean, you're not, you're, I don't think, I'm not sure what you mean there, Dino, because I don't think anybody disagrees with that, but you need to market to both sides of the aisles. You're talking about a bunch of ignorant turds who happened to be on one side of the aisle. There's this much, and there's some ignorant idiots on the other side. Like, yeah, a subset. Yeah.

So, but that doesn't take away from the, initially what you say. You have to market both sides of the aisle. Because those people are never coming to your movie. So it doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter what you do. They just want, they just want it to bomb and they're like, see you see? Yeah. See?

You make a good movie. you prove those people wrong. You can get people in the theater. Like X-Men 97? Space Jesus. I think that Jay should lose like John Cena did at SummerSlam against Brock. Me too. I agree.

Yeah, for different reasons. You want a difference. Grim Bear 13. For me, there are so many controversies around Snow White, and I'm a bit tired of live action remake. So even with A-list, I want to save my time.

Fair point. Totally get that. Yeah, absolutely. All right, John. All right, buddy. That was it. We reached 91. my friend.

91. Well done. Well done. All right. So that's it for today. Let's go ahead and let's talk to John about where you can find them and what you got coming up. And we're going to say goodbye. Real quick, please.

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So there are a lot of stuff coming up because I have my working man out of the theater reaction coming tonight. So thank you guys. I really appreciate it. Thanks for the great conversation. Thanks for the most part. I think it was like 95% of you today. We're really great in the comments section having just a conversation like,

you know, like we hope people can do in general. So thank you guys for being based. How about that? Turn it right back on you. So I appreciate you. Thank you to John. Thank you to all you guys. We'll be back tomorrow.

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