The Kristian Harloff Show - SPIDER-GWEN & SPIDER-PUNK Spin-Offs In Active DEVELOPMENT!

Episode Date: February 13, 2026

SPIDER-GWEN & SPIDER-PUNK spin-off movies are officially moving forward at Sony Pictures, and the Spider-Verse future just got a lot bigger. On today's episode of The Kristian Harloff Show, we break down the major confirmation that Spider-Gwen and Spider-Punk solo films are in active development and what this means for Sony's expanding Spider-Man universe. We also react to new comments from director Destin Daniel Cretton about the Spider-Man: Brand New Day trailer, including his surprising claim that Marvel Studios showed little interest in Wonder Man. What does that say about Marvel's shifting priorities, and how could it affect future MCU storytelling? Plus, the new Spider-Noir trailer teases an existential crisis, classic villains, and stylish web-swinging action. We analyze the tone, themes, and how this darker Spider-Man story fits into the broader Spider-Verse lineup. Finally, we discuss the latest Avengers: Doomsday update as the film's directors confirm that Steve Rogers will have a central role in the movie's story. How does Captain America factor into the next Avengers event, and what does this mean for the MCU moving forward? All that and more on The Kristian Harloff Show—your home for Marvel news, Spider-Man updates, Sony Pictures developments, and in-depth movie and TV discussion. SPONSOR: FACTOR: Head to https://www.factormeals.com/kristian50off and use code kristian50off to get 50 percent off and free breakfast for a year. Eat like a pro this month with Factor. 

All right. So Spider-Gwen, Spider-Punk, it's going to be a spin-off now. Actually, starting to put things together. You got that trailer yesterday for Spider-Noir. Everybody wants the Spider-Man trailer, the new one. Everybody goes, take it easy. Put a trailer out when it's time. So we'll discuss all of that more.

Can the Capes and Cal's crew take out Roka, or will he win for his first time in 17 years? All right, so we're going to find out in just a moment. Most important question of the day. Did you shit in there? Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the show. It is capes and cows. It is Friday.

Nice to have everybody here. Joining me on the show. Winston A. Marshall. Chris Carr. The crew is finally back together again. Not shooting today. I did put out a Game of Thrones reaction, though, however, with myself and Sam that is up right now.

And my dad was asking me that he's like, how's the show going? I was like, it's the slow period right now. It's always like January February is always the slow period, especially with the comic book movie news. However, tons of stuff going on, guys. Like we got the, that trailer that dropped yesterday. We can just discuss that, I guess, up top. The Spider-Man, the Spider-No-War, I guess.

I'm assuming if you guys got a chance to take a look at this. Yeah, dude, I am, I am geeked out. My only thing, and it's not really a criticism as much as it's like, I'm surprised they did that, but I guess it's just the area we live in. Spider-Noir, just being a noir film, I'm surprised they did a color version of it. I know, I know. I won't watch it like that. Yeah, you got to, it's supposed to be a noir film slash show.

Like, you should watch it in black and white, but I, I think it's probably just because it's like, it's the era. Somebody's going to be like, why? is in color. A hundred percent. But the only counter I would have that is, and maybe they did do a color version of Werewolf by Night, but I liked

Werewolf by Night in Black and White as well. So, anyway, let's talk a little bit about that. We'll get to that article first. Because people were raving about this one. I didn't get it. I still have a, still blocked my reaction. By the time

I get the reaction up, it will be, you know, probably wait the third trailer will probably already be out by so I was going to laugh because you said you always like nobody here even watches the show they just come in they do their shit they take their money they leave

like I watched it yesterday because I said that and so like I so like I was just laughing when you said that I was like I guess I'm not going to waste my time doing a reaction then for that because I don't why you just gotta put an appeal on it like right

away and it still hasn't gotten cleared so I mean by the time it releases it's going to be so long. But anyway, this particular story here, and that, of course, is Spider-Noar trailer promises an existential crisis. So we covered this on yesterday's show with myself and stuff, but again, just show some of the images and, you know, you saw him. I love, here's what I loved about this trailer in general, and it's kind of going on our main topic today, too. They finally seem, Sony anyway, seems to be getting. it. And they go, you know what? That's one of the characters that popped inside of, or instead of Spider-Verse or whatever the

whole movie's called. And you're not spinning off side characters. You're not spinning off people that no one really cares about. And to clarify that again, as I said yesterday, someone said, well, wait a minute, we care about those characters. That Sony just didn't do it right. And that's exactly right. They did it right here. They did it. right with we cared about spider noir and said well we're going to do a TV show with them but oh great an animated show with this guy's going to be great no no no no we're doing a live action with the guy that voiced him nick cage you're like wait what and then you see this trailer chris and to me it delivers on everything that i was hoping for and i don't know how you felt about it

what would you oh we're eating good this is great i'm so excited about this because the spider Man Noir comic is incredibly dark and I don't know if a lot of people realize that from watching Spider-verse. I mean like they're grounding all of these characters in a reality where there is no power or superpowers I should say.

Like Adrian Tooms, the vulture, he partially eats Uncle Ben. It's messed up. It's messed up stuff. So to have somebody like Nick Cage coming in and doing what feels like he's delivering the Nick Cage-yest kind of performance, which is what I want. I want him to get

a little crazy. I want him to get a little nuts. I think this is going to be so, so fun. The whole cast is stacked. We're getting our first look at a, or not a first, is the second time a kind of Felicia Hardy character is going to be on screen, which is wild too. Like everything about this show looks so, so fun to me. I'm so hyped. Yeah, I agree. And I think that, you know, Winston, as I was saying, you know, you get the fact that they're now spitting off this character, of one of their most popular things that they've done. Getting away, hopefully, from Madam Webb and Craven and all the stuff that's not working anymore.

Venom worked for the first two. Enough is enough. And now you're playing off this. We'll get to another story in a second where they're going to spin off again in characters that are working. This is the right approach. Yeah? I mean, the problem with Madam Webb and Craven and Morbius and all that shit, other than the

fact that Spider-Man wasn't involved, which is silly. why are you doing spinoffs of things that are so ancillary to only the, the deepest comic lore fans that they would go, oh, I know what that is. Like, I love comics and superheroes. I knew what every single one of those characters was, and they were bad movies. Like, at worst case scenario, I don't think this show was going to be bad. I think it's actually going to be good. Anybody that watch Spider-Verse automatically knows who this person is because you took the time to introduce them first before taking an ancillary character and making them a main

character. You can only pull that kind of stuff off. I know maybe they were like, oh, Guardians of the Galaxy works. We can just do that. But that's also because the MCU was like on a role at that particular point. And you still found a way to immediately associate it with other stuff that's going on. So I think why that whole thing, shit failed, other than them just being bad projects, you didn't take the time to be like, this is how this has something.

to do with Peter Parker, whatever, whatever. You did it this time with Spider-N-War from across the Spider-Verse and into the Spider-Verse, so we're ready to kind of receive that, like, because this is like, truthfully, unless you're, you know, a big Spider-Man person, this is like a D-List character in the Spider-Man universe that got its own spin-off. So I think that that already is starting in the right direction. Yeah, and I think, you know, what I was made this point a thousand times over and make it 1001 is that this I still didn't understand with all the hype off of No Way home unless

there's legality around it, why they didn't do a Toby movie and Andrew movie and then do a movie together. I mean, I think they would have been continuing profit off of those things. Had they done it? Maybe they're waiting for Secret Wars now to eventually do that. There's rumors now that Sam Ramey's coming back to do the fourth after saying that he wasn't going to do it. Does that mean anything for Andrew Garfield? I don't know. But at least they're going in the right direction now. And so he seems to have a grip on what they want to do. I still love the idea of like they should have done like a series of shorts like treated almost like Sin City and it's like what's Toby been up to?

What's Andrew been up to? Like and then maybe that's the last bit is we do get some Tom like just as like a little teaser and then you were going to get a full movie a little bit later. I think that would have been a cool way to get a full feature out, include all the Spider-Men and like kind of piggyback off of that and then keep it rolling. but Hollywood don't listen to me. Well, what do you guys think? Do you think this is a great trailer?

Good trailer. You're watching this. I know that everybody's going to be doing reactions off this thing, and people are excited. So I'm curious what you guys think. It has just jumped up to your anticipated list. Now, speaking of spinoffs, speaking of Into the Spider-Verse, well, there's more stuff that they're going to be spinning off.

Spider-Gwen, Spider-Punk. There are now spin-off movies, sorry, spinoff movies that are officially in active development at Sony. So going off of what we just talked about. No more of the side characters that weren't developed well. It's more about characters that were working. So there's two spinoff movies in active development.

Sony pictures, Kristen Belson and Damien de Frobeville, have confirmed that Spider-Punk and Spider-Gwen, Spider-SpiderVeux are now in active development. Mark Cassidy writes it was probably only a matter of time before we got a word on a spin-off or two after the massive success of Spider-Man into the Spider-verse across the Spider-Verse and the news broke last year that a new animated feature focusing on Spider-Punk is an early development at Sony. A rumor that a Spider-Woman spin-off was also in the works followed and Sony Pictures Animation heads Kristen Belson and Damien D. Frobberville have now confirmed that a Spider-Gwen movie is inactive development along with the Spider-Punk film. Nelson declined to share many details, but said that the studio is now active on both projects during an interview with THR. Gwen Stacy, aka Spider-Gwen, emerged as a major standout of both Spider-Verse movies,

so the fact that Sony would want to capitalize on the character's popularity is hardly a surprise. Introduced in Across the Spider-Verse as a close friend of Spider-Gwen that Miles Morales was just a tad jealous of, Pobie Brown hails from Earth 138 and takes a more an artistic and anti-established approach to Super, heroics than other spidey variants. Daniel Klua, who voiced the character and is set to return to the final installment to the trilogy beyond the Spider-Verses on board as a co-writer, the Black Pantheraer almost certainly reprised the role for the spinoff, but nothing has been confirmed.

Here's what he said during an interview. We have all the quotes there, too, but in general, this is going off of what we just spoke about. You know, more spinoffs. They're playing off this. This is animated. They're waiting. Now, the question I have, Winston, here, was.

look how long it took because we're supposed to get beyond like two or three years ago. Yeah. And we still don't necessarily. Do we know it's coming out next year? I don't think we still have a date. Like it was, it was coming. And I think then that that was around the same time that,

uh, what's her name from the MCU got let, was it Victoria? Yeah, we do have a date for it. It's June 18, 2027. Okay. So we finally do. I just,

I remember this got pushed back because of all the drama of pushing the effect the the the vFX directors and emceu and same thing with animation they were like okay we need to put a full halt on this and make sure it's you know good to go wasn't that the main reason they kind of stopped everything yeah i don't know this this says the june 18th 2027 is a report that it has here um so it there was it's been pushed back i think it was supposed to come out in 2023 at one point so it's like yes it's been pushed back tremendously now that's my question though is because it takes so much time, these things are in development, when do we see this? When do we see Spider-Gwen? When do we see, you know, the Spider-Punk? Like, are we talking about into the 30s at this point?

Probably, right? I mean, I mean, there's no way that this stuff is, unless they're really far long in development, you've got to be talking at least four years. You would assume, I mean, that's how long it usually takes. unless you're, unless you're doing that sea breeze stuff now, you know, the whatever, whatever, they can make that movie probably three, three, three minutes. It's right. But everyone's going to have like seven fingers.

So today, not tomorrow. It's eventually, that's that we had this whole conversation on this year yesterday. Eventually, um, everyone, you wouldn't even be able to tell. That's the scariest thing, you know. What's great is we'll all be dead by then. We'll be out of water. Yeah, we'll say. It might be sooner than that, Chris.

I hate it. I hate it so much. I know. But I think it's a lot sooner than you think. But, Chris, you know, outside of that, we are on the right path here for what they're doing. You think that this is the right way to go with Gwen and Spider-Punk? Oh, absolutely. I mean, we do have these great introductions to them like you guys brought up in the films.

We know who they are. We have some great character development for them. And we know that they have fully realized. lives outside of what they're doing in the Spider-verse movies. They've got other stuff going on. I mean, Hobie stuff I'm particularly excited about because we only get little bits of him right so far in the movie. If we get some weird stuff that he's done like spider mutt, if we have the symbiote

just running around as a dog, I'm here for it. I think that show will be so fun and cool and weird. Gwen obviously has such a rich backstory, all the stuff with her father. There's a lot of stuff that you can do here. And I feel like this is what you do with a successful franchise, just like you were talking about with the kind of missed opportunity of having Toby and Andrew do their thing again. This makes so much sense to me. The issue is these films just take such a long time to make. And it's nice to see Sony taking care of their animators because that was a big issue with the first films, getting everyone burnt out, constantly turning animators over because they were working insane hours.

But I still want it sooner than that. I know. Yeah. Give it. Give it me. I know. We need it soon. It's funny, but, you know, nonetheless, it looks like we're all on the same page that this is. They seem to have a plan now. And that's what, no matter what it is, whether it's Sony, whether it's Lucasfilm, whether it's DC. When there's a plan in place, things seem to be in a more like, okay, I like what you're doing? I'm more patient now. I'm more patient now. I'm more patient now. I'm more patient now. And you're like, oh, yeah, now I'm going to do a movie with this person. And they're going to direct it. You're like, what movie is that? When did that? come who's that and you're like there's no plan there's nothing that's when it becomes chaotic but if there's like again oh we're doing a craven movie why who's we're doing we're gonna do a sinister

sex just kidding we're gonna do this it's like have a plan it's been very spaghetti at the wall yes now but now it seems like not as much i got a question christian because like you're you to me are like the perfect example of like you know enough comic book stuff and things like that, but you also, like, deep cuts, not necessarily since, like, at least now in life. You know what I'm saying? Did you know the character of Craven before that movie came out? It's only through conversation, maybe with Schnep and other things. Not that I was aware of from watching anything or reading anything, just from Schnepp. That, that to me is kind of the point where they're messing up. You, you again, you introduced Toby. So, like, I remember him. He was hilarious. Like,

you know what I mean? Like, oh, yeah, we've been. following Gwen. I love what. So like, that's, I thought you were going to ask me like before this, would you want to see a spider punk movie? I'm like, no, I don't know what that is. And now I'm like, yeah, that'd be great because I, because I already saw him in action. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, there's game tape. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly right. We, we got a chance to scout this character, this, this, this player first before we're just like, yeah, get drafted. A hundred percent. 100%. All right. So what are you guys like, yeah. I was just going to say Sony just has made so many weird choices to you thinking things like oh but it doesn't matter because if we give you a rated

our superhero movie you're gonna love it you eat it up and it's not how it works you got to have investment you need like you would have just randomly done deadpole wolverine maybe it would have still done well maybe um because it's deadpool and wolverine but does it have that same kind of impact when you know there's no there's no questions at that point of well will ryan rounds even be good as deadpool you mean you know when when he originally did it I mean remember they didn't have a lot of faith right away. They didn't give him like a massive budget. He had to like beg for the budget that he got.

And it was and they had to like maneuver things around. And then it made a huge profit. So then he was able to do everyone in the second one leading into then Deadpool and Wolverine. But like if you just randomly do things that people aren't invested in right away, it doesn't play. Those are, that's a different circumstance because it's Deadpool and Wolverine.

But you still, there's not, there's more investment when you build towards it. Absolutely. And I see what you're saying about like, again, Deadpool, the bigger of the comic fans know who he is, even though he's very meta. It's the bigger of the comic fans that did it, but it was a Ryan Reynolds passion project. I don't think Dakota Johnson was passionate about Madam Webb. So of course, it wasn't going to do it. But Ryan was like, no, I want the real ass costume. I'm going to write this thing by himself. Like just there is a massive difference between someone being like, I have to. to bring this to life and we just want to make money so pick a spider-man character right yeah yeah that's and that's kind of what it was is like well and i don't know what again the legality was of what they're allowed to do with spider-man or not with if it's connected to the mcccc but either way we're getting more stuff now what do you guys think put your thoughts in there if you haven't subscribed to that clips channel please please please i mean you have to you have to it's we're going to We're trying to get to 30,000 by the end of the year.

I think we can do it. You guys, you miss some stories. We don't have to miss them anymore. Now you can check it out. Guys, you're at 22. Pretty good. Wow. You're looking, you're so far.

On a minute, guys. Way to go. Good start. Thank you. Good start so far. You need a win. You need a win. You got to take out Roka, who is standing tall at 87 this week.

No one's been able to take him out so far. All right, y'all. Remember what I said last week. Like history most. Right. Let's see if I worked. It didn't work last week. Maybe it'll work this week.

It got us pretty damn close. It's just we were dealing with 220 something. Not last week. No, not last week. Oh, that was the week before? Oh, last week before. Yeah, last week.

But we've got a, you got a shot here this week. We will see if you can pull it off. I was laughing because Rokka's getting old like me. Because on Monday we talked about like, so I'll throw in every once in a while when they're on the hot mic. I love, which I love, I love the hot mic very much. I think it's a great show. I think that's a good insider show.

It's a good show to get your scoops from, and I really enjoy Roka and Snyder's chemistry. But I like to, you know, I like to throw pranks at them quite often. I'll throw things on the live chat. And so there's a character from my old grasping of Strails pilot that Ellis played called Sean Moroni. So people kept to ask about Sean Moroni on Monday.

We start talking about Sean Moroni. And the audience this time, because usually Roka's never on the joke. or let's include Roka on the joke this time. So we'll say, you know what? For the next hot mic, someone will ask a super chat

and they'll say, we just saw Sean Moroni kill it on Kill Tony. Is it true that he's going to be in the next Apatow movie? And so they asked that question. And we said, you can't bombard them.

One person has to ask. And then Roka will back it up and go, yeah, here are the guys like crushing. Right now. Have you heard anything, Jeff? So sure shit yesterday. They asked. And Roka's like,

So Snyder goes, I don't know who that is. And Roca, I'm like, oh, here we go, Roca. Roka goes, I don't know if Sean Moroni is. I'm like, so, so then, so then they, then, then there's an assist. There's an assist by the audience to try to help them to remember. They throw in, they go, Roca, you and Christian talked about Sean Moroni on Monday, hoping that that prompts the memory to say, oh, yeah. Instead, he goes, what?

We never talked about Sean Moroni? I don't know who that person is. It almost worked better that he forgot. It's like, it was so good. And he's like, I'm getting old.

I told him, he said, he said, you blew it. And then I, and then I just sent him, I just sent him this. Show him a Roney.

So good. Oh, I go. I only watched those two clips. I don't know, because they said that it kept going. I want to see if anybody else. Did they finally realize that it was part of the bit?

I don't know. The chat says that he even looked him up on IMDB. It's better. I mean, it really is better in the fact that you throw him the softball and he just misses it by like, he swung like five minutes early. It's incredible.

Like we literally talked about this on Monday. We talked about it on Monday that it was like, you know what? Usually they're never in on the joke. Well, You mean on the joke this time. Nope. Absolutely incredible.

Really, really good. We're going to do it. I'm about to do it again. The gift that keeps on giving, my man. Not as much as Kalinowski, but yes. That's, I mean, that's fair. You have way too many quotables from Kalinowski at this point. I mean, I'm milk that teat.

Got to milk that teat. 100%. He's so good. He really is. You shit in there. Hey, Willie. I don't know why. I know it's from a movie,

but I know the, did you shit in there was about his dog, but for some reason, he'd be like, shit on the walls. Like, I don't know where. I don't know what that's from,

yeah, I'm not sure. Um, Winston, you've seen this one before, right? You're trespassing on my property. Get the hell out of my yard.

Hey, hey, let me have this house. JT, let you have my house. My shit. We, I want it.

You're trespassing on my property. You didn't win shit. My yard. Wait, all of you. Daddy, chill. What the hell?

hell is even that. What is that? You've never seen that anymore? No. The best. Daddy chill. So good. Daddy chill. So good.

I really need to, I really need to watch the rest of that show. I can't believe that Roka. What is that? Oh, no, that's just a clip. I'm talking about Roka. Anyway, he was,

he was yelling at people in the chat that weren't spelling. I have, I got to watch the rest of that show. I only watched a little bit of it. I thought it was a one and done. But like, That's incredible that he's the one. Are we talking about?

Chomeroni, almost 20 years later, still coming back strong. Fantastic. Chris, did you see that they featured our reaction to Transformers in the actual Mattel commercial? Yeah, I got it sent to me by one of my students. And I was like, who's that girl saying? What the heck? Oh, it's me. So good.

I got really excited. Were you so pumped as like such a huge fanboy? Yeah, so they reached out, how long ago? I'm probably a couple weeks ago and they said, hey, we really liked what you guys did in there. Can we, if we did something for this anniversary, do you guys care if we show your reaction? I was like, yeah, sure.

Don't worry, I didn't get paid for it. If we did, I would give you some money. They were just doing, they were just doing promotion for it. I was like, yeah, I love that movie so much. And it was such a, and there was, I also think there was some of the real rejects that were in there, too. It was cool. Yeah. Yeah.

It's fun. Anyway, let's stay, let's stick. You know what? No, I'm not going to stick with Spider-Man. We'll go back to Spider-Man. Because I want to start with this, because I think you guys, the both, you, I love you guys so much to both of you. I think you're both full of shit.

Very much so. I took a turn to a place that I didn't think it would. I was a test. I think you're full of shit. And I'll tell you why I think you're full of shit in a second. But we got Avengers, Doomsday. one of the most highly anticipated movies and Winston wants me to believe

that he would rather see Supergirl than Doomsday. But we're going to see here. Director confirms that Steve Rogers has a central role in the movie's story. Doom's Day directors, the Russo brothers have confirmed that Steve Rogers will have a central role in the movie.

They also explain the four cryptic teaser trailers. While it wasn't a huge surprise after months of rumors, why don't we leave with this story? Report about the MCU Return in the Trades. Chris Evans' comeback at Steve Rogers in the first Avengers Doomsday teaser was incredibly exciting. The sneak pick, which you can watch, showed Steve arriving home on a motorcycle before packing away, yada, yada, he and Agent Carter reunited at Endgame. It takes place from there. The Rousseau's reiterated that there's more to each of the movie's teasers than meets the eye.

Each one of those teaser trailers is narrative information. It's all part of a larger story, so I would argue that Doomsay has already started for you. Look, the movie's very complex. We thought one of the best ways to celebrate what the movie is was to do. give characters their own space and highlight some moments. It's been rumored that the consequences of Captain America's actions and the impact they had on the multiverse will be felt in a big way in Doomsday. That may make Steve a target for Dr. Doom,

though the Rousseau's will also need to address what became of Avengers and Games' Old Man Rogers and how he ended up on that bench in the first place. He's swinging the decision to bring Cap back. He said, we have a special affinity character. We can't see this narrative without his central role in it, basically. the special place he holds among the ensemble, he sort of routines that moving forward. So while we wouldn't necessarily say this makes Steve the lead of it, he's clearly going to be a major part of the story. Where that leaves the new Captain America will remain to be seen.

The former Falcon will, however, be leading his own team of Avengers. According to one leak at the end of 2025, Steve will be heading into battle as nomad, not Captain America. Instead of willing to shield, he'll have a meal, meo, mea, me. So let's start with having Winston be able to defend himself. Are you really telling me that if you had a chance right now to watch Supergirl or Avengers Doomsday and you can only watch one, you can't watch the other one. You're going to take Supergirl over Doomsday. For right now, only, only from this standpoint, I have a feeling that the fact that you're

about the Russo's you're kind of doing an all-in sort of scenario that they'll they'll figure it out and it'll actually be very very good MCU's just been so up and down and the story of supergirl woman of tomorrow is so good and so far what they've shown does make it seem like they are truly going for the sci-fi like epic and that they're doing it correctly I the information that I presently have yeah I'm at actually more excited about Supergirl just for that on top of the fact that like one of the things

that I think Hollywood has been missing right now and has been really rough on top of that with the superhero genre is this idea of just giving more of the same. So the fact that it's like, well, we're bringing back all the same actors and we're doing a whole new like, hey, we did it, baby and all that kind of stuff. Again, I think at the end of the day it will be good. And when it's time to rape both of them, there's a very high probability that I'm like doomsday was the best at all of this. and it wasn't even close.

But as the chips currently lay, we're looking at, I always mess up the terms between river flop and all that kind of stuff, but the first three cards are out. I'm looking at Supergirl. I'm not pressed to see what the final, what the final thing is quite yet,

but that could all change over the course. My personal opinion is that because both of you guys are very well versed with the comic itself. And I think that that's what you're looking forward to, I would assume, because what I've seen so far looks like Guardians of the Galaxy counterpoint. look like anything special. I love Millie Alcock. I think she's great, but I didn't laugh.

Didn't think, I thought the piss choke was horrible. I think that they have a very good chance of it being really solid. But I want to see where the hell they're going to go, how they're going to introduce the X-Men. I want to see how they're going to take out the original X-Men. I want to see the consequences of any game. I want to see how the Russo's who are basically what, four-for-four in their MCU telling. I want to see how they come back. This to me is a comic book movie, you know, lover's dream. And I get it. Listen, I understand, Chris, where you get the fear of that it could just be like, oh, things aren't working. Let's bring everybody back. But even if that is initially the case, it's like, well, you still have to structure a story. And from what we're

hearing so far, the people behind us and say, no, they really put together something pretty special. So you're in the same camp here that you're, you're walking into Supergirl over Doomsday? You know, I am right now because I just feel like I've been burned quite a bit of, hey, maybe this is going to be good. Maybe this is going to be a fun time. And Marvel certainly has given me some things in theaters that I have liked that have not performed super well, you know, looking at Thunderbolts. A Fantastic Four just really didn't do it for me. So I'm just not particularly excited at this juncture. Now, I love the Doomsday story. And, And I think that comic arc is really interesting.

But what I've been lacking is the buildup that gets me hyped about it. It doesn't feel earned right now. Whereas right now, combined with how much I love The Woman of Tomorrow Comic and how just like, freaking good I felt coming out of the Superman theater every single time. I was just like, I'm in such a good mood. I feel joy in my black little heart. Like, what? The world's going to be okay.

Cats and dogs are getting along. Let's go. Like I felt great after I saw that movie. Marvel stuff hasn't really gotten me that excited lately. I'll see some stuff in theaters and go, it was pretty good. You're not pumped about the Russo's coming back? I do like them. And see, these are the things that give me faith, but don't exactly get me going, oh, I'm so juiced about this.

Right now, even if it is something that looks like a kind of carbon copy of a Guardians of the Galaxy movie, I love those movies. Those are some of my favorite Marvel movies. I really enjoy what the Russo's have done. and I think they handle the events really, really well. But again, without that huge buildup feeling earned to get to that event, right now it kind of feels more like I have to do a triathlon that I haven't trained for. That's, wow. You have nailed it. I think that's where my hesitancy is coming from is because when I think of a vendors, I think of an event movie and where there has been no.

I meant to highlight. I'm what happened? highlighted something I meant to do a timeout sorry oh it's so good but I but I this is this is for those that like music festivals I know one of the biggest ones in the world is Coachella it would literally be like oh and we go yeah we gonna have some artists what like I just did this is gonna be dope you don't like it like that's there there is there's no buildup in the way of where we got here narratively to get to this point. You've just done a lot of the marketing to try and get me hype about it.

But the reason I think a lot of these Avengers films always felt big is every time we had four or five films that you were like, oh shit, I see how this ties to get. This is going to be wild. Because Shung Chi and the Marvels and Ant Man Quantumania and all this is all over the place and we've added villains and we've dropped villains, but why is that villain involved? None of this is necessarily connected yet where I go, I see where we're going and I'm ready for this massive like team up. So that's part of why it's hard for me to get super hype because I haven't had the same level of buildup to get here. Yeah, see, I got, I respect that.

I just, I'm on the completely opposite side of things because for me, I'm not looking at it any of that stuff that came afterwards. I'm looking at it as a direct sequel to end game. I've already accepted that everything else came after some good, some bad, whatever. they realize we're going to do a direct sequel. This is the events that happened with Steve Rogers. This is what he messed up. This is how we're going to explain that. This is why this person's coming back.

And we have a crew that has done this many times over. As we said earlier before, there didn't seem like there was a plan with Marvel. There seems like there's a plan in place now. With Spider-Man, with this, with Secret Wars leading into X-Men. There's a plan. I don't need it to now tie into. moon night and all that.

That stuff to me is a wash. I don't give a shit about that stuff. I don't disagree with you guys that there's a lot of stuff that in and I happen to like Moon Night, but there's a lot of stuff inside of that that was disappointing. It came and went. Nobody cares. But I'm hyped for this.

To me, it's one of my, if it wasn't, it's like number two or three of my most anticipated list that I did. And I don't know if Supergirls have been landed in that top 10. But I don't know that story. I don't know the story the way you guys know it. Yeah.

I mean, I'll be honest, until I read it, I was like, oh, that'll be fun. And then once I did, I was like, no, this has to happen immediately. I'm just hoping they let Gillespie actually direct and don't and gun doesn't get too involved. Yeah. And that's a completely, completely fair concern, I think. Absolutely. And to your point, I can understand going back to what worked super well as somebody who's not really invested in the like intrinsically tied nature of these stories. I can completely understand being really, really geeked out about, oh, the Russo's are back.

They're giving me another event movie. They don't miss. And I completely understand that. I think when we have these big ensemble pieces, it's an exciting thing. It's just right now the ensemble I'm not super, super hyped about. That's why I'm so happy this story does say, hey, Steve has a part that makes sense. Because when this first got announced the Tony of it, the Steve of it, I was not on the, This is a Genius Move Cam.

guy has to make sense. Yeah, I was like, this feels like a Hail Mary. And so I'm glad that it's really intrinsically tied to this story that they want to tell. And to be fair, it very well might have started as a Hail Mary. And if it starts as a Hail Mary, I think the Rousseau's were a Hail Mary. Yeah. Absolutely. Which there's nothing wrong with a Hail Mary as long as you catch the ball and score a touchdown.

And that to me is what, okay, fine. Look, we're going off of everything you guys just said. This isn't working. This is that people aren't liking what we're doing. that they used to. How about so-and-so quarterback in the game? Like, no, it's not, it's not going to work. How about them?

How about them? About the team? You want to bring the, those guys are available. They want to come back. They've said it so many times. Rusus wanted to come back. And they finally made the call. And now they're putting together, you know, they're bringing back some of the old squad

that help them win a couple championships. And the question is, do you have the game plays? Can you get back into the end zone? And I think the answer is yes, especially from hearing this. I'm looking at it, as I said, as a sequel to, end game. And I, and people go, you didn't need a sequel to it. You don't need a sequel to a lot of shit. But if you can tell the right story, you can make it work. So that, I mean, that to me is,

I think it's my number three most anticipated is what I had. Yeah, I think the other thing that gets me, and I hear what you're saying is like, I, the only thing that bothers me a little bit is the fact that we have fully retreaded back to Steve. Like, I was looking forward to seeing what was going on with Sam. But who's, but that. That's that, no, wait a minute. Wait a minute. That's driving me crazy. Because you,

you are not the only person saying that. In what world did they say that he's going to be taking the shield and he's going to be Captain America and he is the new Captain America again. See you later, Sam. They haven't said that. Well, they said, hold on, hold on. They set up at the end of Thunderbolt, Sam is putting together a team. They set up in Captain America, he has a team.

And at the end of the trailer of that they show with Steve, it says Steve Rogers will return. everyone is running around screaming going oh my god they're replacing uh they're replacing sam who said that there's two there's two pieces of evidence that kind of help with that the first is the fact that they have constantly said steve will be at the center of the story is the first thing so what that's steve rogers the second the second thing has been the fact that you then look their parks emulate a lot of what they're doing in said movies they have already taken sam completely out of of avengers campus so like they are they are repositioning to put steve at some sort of central focus, which I love the character of Steve, but I, you, you put together a bad movie.

This wasn't, this wasn't a level of just like, nobody wanted to necessarily see that character. They put a bad movie together. And then when it fell apart, it seems like we're already repositioning back on top of the other drama that's going on. So it's just, there's like, I think that's a lot of, I think that's a hard fact we're getting rid of him. No, but there's enough there to go, I don't like what this is going. I think it's assumption.

I think it's all assumption. I think for me, it's just, it's hard to move on. if he's always around, you know? Like, if me and my new boyfriend are hanging out all the time, but my ex is always at the movies next to us, that's a little weird. Yeah, but it's also, but it's also, you know, look, let's also talk business, right?

It's, there, Captain America, Brave New World did not do well. Yeah. No, it didn't. Should you get rid of him? No. Should you pivot a little bit? Yeah, you should. You should pivot a little bit.

It's like, well, you should, you should feel, I saw so many videos are like, oh, you should stay confident with these characters. Why? Are you the ones that are profiting from business or losing money? No, you're not. I'm not talking to you, so I'm just saying. I saw other people that were tweeting out, people in our space that I saw this whole video of going, oh, why are they doing this? They should, they should stay true to the characters they set up. It's like, because it's not working.

Both of you just said, you've been let down so many times. And he's part of that, he was part of that wave of the things that let you down. I understand that I think the reason that it bothers me is it's not because, again, a desire to see those characters happen. It's because they effed up. They made a bad movie. Like, that's the difference. It's not, it's not so much that people are like, get that shit out of here. I don't even want to see that again. It was people going, this feels more like a Hulk movie. Definitely. This is a Hulk movie. I don't think this is a Sam movie. I think this is purely about Red Hulk, man. And so to that point, they didn't actually give him a chance. They tried to pretend like they did, but they really didn't. So that's more where my friends, frustration comes in is again it'd be one thing if they put a full thing out there this was a sam movie sam did this thing everybody goes eh then we're having a conversation why am i suffering because you effed up yeah well either way though it doesn't it doesn't really matter anymore because it's now we're

pushing forward so the question is i just think people come to a sumturing away oh they're moving away from sam and you're not the only person that has done it i've seen it so many times it's like look and like you said before you could watch this movie and say oh the movie was the best movie the year but you're not excited for it in the same way the you're not excited for it in the same way you could also say, hey, I thought they were going to do this. I was wrong. They actually used him pretty well. And I think that a lot of people are going to be saying that because they set it up.

The Russo's shot the scene at the end of the Thunderbolts where they're talking about Sam as Cap building a team and suing them. So he's clearly involved. I'm not saying that they're getting rid of him a thousand percent, but the idea of where you were trying to position him to be in the spotlight, the other little piece of evidence that's coming back from that is the fact that you then also recast RDJ as Dr. Doom to bring him back to use that hype of weird tapping into your nostalgia to try and get this back.

I understand it's a business move, but that that's part of where a lot of that is coming from. There is this level of, I do miss RDJ. I do miss, you know, Evans. I'm glad that they're back, but it almost feels like because they know they messed up so hard, they're really trying to like, I guess they've abandoned ship on trying to move forward and they're really just kind of rehashing something. So there's a little bit of me that's just like, ah, this other thing is kind of new. So I'm excited about Spider-Man. Spider-Man hasn't filled me. I'm excited about Clayface. That sounds really interesting. I'm excited about Supergirl. I know that

story. You guys really feel like you're just trying to like win me back versus being we in this. That's kind of my issue. Like I said, you could look at it like Hail Mary, but you got to catch the ball. If you're going to fluke it, you got to catch the ball. And I think the way that it's set up right now that they're going to catch the ball. It looks like, especially what Chris just said, you know, it's like they clearly have an idea of what they want to do with Steve. I just never bought into it right away that they were like replacing him right away. He's not working overall as the Captain America.

He's not working. It doesn't mean you get rid of him. It's back to formula. You refigure how you're going to give the fucking guy the serum for God's sakes. Give him the serum and get away from this stupid idea of like, give him this serum. He's sleeping and Bucky goes, I'm tired he'd complain about it when you're sleeping. I gave it to you. You just want Bucky to dose him?

Yeah. At this point, yeah. Drug his ass. Shut your ass. We get it. You don't want to do it, but we just, I mean, we made it happen. You can't fight the Hulk again. without the serum, Dopey.

You almost got kill. You should have been killed. You got lucky that didn't happen. So you know what? You know the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, didn't need to bring back Chris Evans. I didn't need to get R.D.J.

re put in a new role. I needed a new black panther. That's what I'm saying is that it feels like, instead of paying attention to the things that people are actually asking for. They're just kind of doing that. They're just kind of doing that, too. That's happening. well they should have done it sooner the fact that we still don't actually have any sort of like but where where would they have done that i mean i i've i've given my thoughts of what i you how you could have kept the movie that you did with wakonda forever and whatnot but i mean it was it was egregious in that it wasn't just that it was you took tchala out of all content they just decided to remove him from everything from video games from movies they would use tachaka pretty much everywhere so that that that's what i'm saying it's like there are other things

things that Marvel needed to do as a whole, whether it be with the movies, TV shows, et cetera. And instead, they're like, oh, my God, oh, my God, do this thing. Like, that's, that's where it, I don't know, that's just, that's just where my head's at. And that, that's just why I'm on uneven ground. I'm not giving up on it. I just, it's harder for me to build up hype when I feel uneasy about who's building said hype. Yeah, see, that that's where we're definitely, they've won to me, they've won enough

championships that I'm going to I'm going to trust them. I mean, that's that's fair. As opposed to right now, the lespie who looks like he's being strong armed. So I'm, I don't know. And I want to see that movie. I hope the movie's good. I'm rooting for it. And I'm rooting for the DC to work.

And I am actually very hype. I would, you know, now here's another thing that I'll tell you right now. You're like, okay, you can only see one. Supergirl or Clayface. I'm going into Clayface all day long, all day long because I love. of the idea of what they're doing there, how they're setting this up, lower budget, different

genre, connected to the DCU still, that, more unknown actors proving themselves, that is exciting to me. That's kind of the stuff that you're talking about of like, let's light a firework and see where it blows up. You know,

that's a kind of thing that I want to see. I don't know, Chris, how do you feel about the two of those? Oh, no, I'm with you on this. And that's a lot, because I am not a horror person and knowing that this is going to be like a body horror movie, which is my specific brand of,

I'm so excited. I know that I'm going to be obnoxious to watch this movie with because I'm such a freaking baby. But I think that them going about it, one, it's some of the stuff that worked best for these movies, if we're going back to when superhero movies really kicked off for us, having these quote unquote unknown actors. And by that we just mean actors that aren't household names, right?

Journeyman actors or people who have had some, some like cool guest star roles or maybe you're working overseas and you don't really know them that well. Having these kinds of actors come in and take on these roles is so cool and exciting because the IP is powerful enough. You don't need to have, you know, this A-list celebrity playing this character. You just need a really good actor. And I do think. 30 million through 30 million, 40 million, 40 million.

Yeah. Right. It's so low budget. And to me too, this is one of the things that horror does so well is they utilize their budget in such a creative way, especially if we're looking at, you know, like 824 films or things like that. And so to see DC kind of copy that model and go, no, how can we really stretch ourselves creatively? And how can we be of best service to this story? Really, really interests me.

Here's, we do this normally as we're getting closer to, uh, the big summer leading is, I don't think Clayface comes up to like September or October. But, um, but as we lead into that, we're usually, we usually do this early. let's do three predictions. Okay. And this will change 50 different times. But let's start with this. What does Avengers Doomsday do worldwide?

What does Supergirl do worldwide? And what does Clayface do? Now let's put together, I think it looks like, I think the budget for Doomsday is going to be something like, what, $700 million or something like that? I think. Is that right? Oh my God.

At this point with the number of actors in it and the marketing you've already done, yeah, probably. It's actually, the budget is approaching or exceeding $1 billion. That's one of the other thing that's interesting about that. I know it sounds weird, but now it also makes me nervous. When you spend that much money, you start to do desperate things. And I'm a little worried about that. They're saying that doomsday needs to make.

two to two and a half to be profitable. So let's let's put that in. Supergirls is is rumored at 200 million. And Clayface, let me see the Clayface budget. And we'll see. So I thought it was $1 billion for Doomsday and Secret Wars. It's $1 billion just for Doomsday.

Just for Doomsday. We'll think about it. Think about the chairs that we saw. No, no, I know. Yeah, no, but the chairs alone, but the names with all the chairs on it and the names we still don't have. Did you not know each of those chairs were actually laced with gold? Like that's actually in the inner workings of the spray. That's how they stitched it.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, so again, a billion dollars will say for Doomsday is how much the budget was, which is insanity. One of the biggest budgets, maybe it has, it's the biggest budget of all time for a movie. Billion dollars. Then you get Supergirl 200 and then Clayface at 40. So knowing that information, let's start, Winston, we'll start with you.

Let's go do, we'll do, let's do, let's do, let's do Clayface first. Let's do Clayface. 40 million. 40. It's 40 million budget. So in order to break even, it needs to make around just around 80, 85. So what do you think it makes worldwide? If it's a legitimate good movie, I think it pulls 375,000.

400 somewhere in that range. Wow. That would be that would be a massive hit. If it's mid to bad, then I think it's pulling 150 at most. Mid to bad, you think it's 150? Yeah. Okay. Uh, Chris. Who, I think there's enough interest in it that this could be like, I'd say 300 is a really good number for them.

That's a massive hit. That's a massive hit for them. Yeah, yeah. That's if like everyone is like, this movie is so good. I love this. so much. If it doesn't operate on all cylinders, I think we would be slightly under that 150 mark, like 100-ish. And that's still obviously, like, they're making bank on it. This movie does not need to do well in the terms that we often think about when something's a box office hit because of that low budget. You can make 80 million to break even. Yeah. Yeah. And then it's a huge success. Yes. So I will say 150 is not if it's bad. 150 this is good

150 is good the reason the reason why is we've seen what cheap fan loved horror sure and do like I that that's the thing I'm thinking of five nights at Freddy's I'm thinking of Get Out Five Nights Freddy's is a bigger

Five Nights of Freddy's and both those movies are are studio based movies in the same way that Clay faces um with lower I don't know what was get out's budget Get Out's budget was something ridiculous it was it was it was like 4.6 million and it cleared like 354. Okay. Yeah.

So that's a good example. So I would, but I think I think this movie, Clayface, is 200 million overall. I think it's going to be, and that's if it's great. I think 200 million and I think that's a big win for them.

Maybe 215, but I think it makes between 200 and 215 if it's good. Overall, I think it'll, it's going to make money for them either way. This is a brilliant, this will be a big win. for for DC overall.

I agree that if it's good, and people really dig it and go back and watch it again and some massive hit and they can at 300, they had 300. That's a, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's major. I'm going, like, now mind you, I'm again going off the premise that like, they really did it. The practical effects are great. They put a good story together.

Like the character of, of, do we know which Clayface they're going with, Sam? I mean, Chris, sorry. Is it Basil? I'm not sure. honestly. I know there's a few different. That's the one that I think makes the most sense. Yeah. Yeah. But either way. The story as a whole is just so fascinating if they do it right, then people will flock to it, I believe. So let's, so final number on your pick,

doesn't matter good or bad. Final number got I'm going 180 worldwide. Chris, you're saying what's your number? 200. 200 and 150. 250. Okay. Let's switch Supergirl. Supergirl, $200 million budget needs to make $400 worldwide to break even. I'll start and I'll be the controversial one. I don't think this movie's going to make a profit. I think it'll do well enough, but I think 200 is way too much for this movie. I think there's a major error to go this big with that. I think we would have 100.

With just having to make 200, it would have done its job. I think with 200, it's going to struggle. I think it's going to hit 365 worldwide and it's going to be, and I think it's going to be good. And I think it has to be looked upon as a disappointment, in, but it's going to do 365 world one. Chris? I mean, I understand that. That makes sense to me.

I'm trying to look up what Superman's box office ultimately was. Like something, like $6.70 something. Okay. Because, yeah, I do think it's going to be lower than Superman because it is to some people a tertiary character or some like lesser character because it's the gender swapped version of something. I don't know. I'm optimistic 375. Right. That's still failure, though.

Yeah, I know. I think. Failure is not fair, but a disappointment. Yeah. I think it's going to be like not performed budgetarily well. But I think, you know, that's nothing to sneeze at if you have a budget that's not. If it's 100 million, you make 375 while you're in good shape. But because it's 200, that's the problem, right? So Chris and I both think it's going to underperform. Chris has a little higher than me, but not much.

But what about you, Winston? Um, if you're like, so remember the pure aspirational of Superman was like a billion, right? And it capped out at about 675. I think pure aspirational is to hit what Superman ended at at 675, but I think it'll probably hit because I think it'll be a good movie. And I think you, you will suffer a little bit from the gender swap of it all. But I also think that you'll bring in a number of women being like, oh, shit, okay, I think it's going to hit around 380 to 4. and I think that that's the best it can do. So you also think it's going to under before.

I think it will hit exactly at what it needs to be profitable. I don't think it's going to be like profitable. Profitable means it's going to make, it's got to do at least 425. Okay, so that I think it will, so four is to break even. I think it will break even or just shy of breaking even. Enough that they'll go, that wasn't necessarily a problem, but we should do better.

The other problem that Supergirl runs into is that, you know, June 26th is when a. comes out and then July 1st, minions and monsters comes out, Moana, the Odyssey. And I don't know when Toy Story, Toy Story 5 comes out. It's 19th. Toy Story 5's in its second week also, the Supergirl. Super Bowl could be, and could have problems. When is Spider-Man?

That is in the middle of July. So I'm more worried about that. I know you just mentioned a whole bunch of other stuff. Like there is definitely a family element to this movie for sure. But I'm more looking at when are you losing full-on comic fans? Sure. And that's fair. A lot of women.

Yeah. And it's not to say that women won't want to see me. No, no, you're right. You're right. It's not the same audience for sure. But the one thing is that it could blend into who's going to the movies and how they're going to market it. So I, but all three of us think it's either going to break.

well, you think it's going to break even. Chris and I think it's going to be a little bit of a loss. That's not great. No, no, no. For what DC on their second movie? No, I mean, I don't, I don't disagree with you on that. But I think the main thing that they're that they're kind of hoping on is what is the year as a whole turn out as. So what is that and Clayface and lanterns, which I don't know how you really kind of do by a TV show.

Right. But what does this all look like when the year's out? Clayface is going to be their winner, though, overall, in comparison to budget to profit. All right. So this is the big one here is obviously the billion dollar budget of end game, or end game, rather, Doomsday. So Chris, we'll start with you here. They needs to make like 2.4, 2.5 to just around break even.

What does it do? Not that. What do you think? Jeez, Louise. Like, I think a billion is, like, generous for it to enter the billion dollar club. Wow. Just because of the people getting superhero fatigue and going and watching stuff on streaming. So, like, maybe we'll see some stuff, like, later on.

It'll peter out on streaming nicely. But I just don't see this performing those endgame numbers. you know, I don't see it really delivering those big, big box office numbers. I would love to be wrong. I hope that we can play this. I think it's going to, I think it's going to be shy of a billion. Oh, wow. That's a little shy.

That's a major loss. So you don't even think it's going to make its budget back. I don't think it's going to make its budget back. All right. Winston? Oh, get mad at me, chat. Let's go. Ha-ha.

No, I don't, I don't see a lot of people disagreeing with you. So I got a question. What was, what were people expecting for fire and ash, you know? Well, I think that they were just going off of the last two, and they're probably expecting like $2.2 billion? Probably, yeah. Because I remember very quickly being like, nah, bro, this ain't going to make more than like 175,

and it looked like it's petered out at 1.4. So what do you got? If that's the case, because I just wanted to look and see where Fire and Ash ultimately ended up, I think that Doomsday is a bigger thing than Avatar, just as far as the general populace. that are doing stuff. I think it probably hits about 1.5.

It sits around the same where Fire and Ash does, maybe 1.6 at best. You need it to clear two. So they're going to go full court press here. But I think you're probably going to hit 1.6. So here is where normally, it seems like I'm always like the level-headed one when it comes to these box office numbers.

I think this movie is going to make three, point one billion dollars three point one i think it's going to be one of the biggest movies of all time i was going to say that's not even a real amount of money that's a lot dude i was going to say the biggest movie of all time i literally i was going to say that it hits right it too it also breaks even but y'all in the last two movies got me to rate it in i think this is going to be the three point one christian i think this is going to be the biggest movie of all time um And I think that because what did people keep saying about Star Wars? It used to be an event movie.

It used to be an event. It used to feel, hold on, hold on. It used to feel like an event. It no longer feels like an event. Mandalorian and Grogu doesn't, is a nightmare, the way that's marketing this movie. It doesn't feel like an event. It feels like they just took a television show and put it on there.

This movie feels like it's starting. to feel like an event. And if it's, if I walk out of it and I go, that was an nostalgia, it was crap, I'm going to pretend that I never said that. I 100% could, could do that. If this movie delivers and this movie gets you feeling like, whoa, what the hell is going to happen to Secret Wars? People will go back and see this again and again and again and again because they're

like, wait a minute, I haven't felt like that in a Marvel movie in so long. I could be so off. And if people are calling me a lunatic for this, warranted. I understand. I'm just telling you that I feel this is going to be the first big Marvel event movie since endgame. And because they're telling you to end game, I feel like you're going to get those people who have been sleeping on. Chris, you're not wrong about the superhero fatigue and all that. But I think this is going to wake those people up out of the slumber.

But no, I would not bet a steak dinner on that. I was just going to say, do you want a bet a steak day? Because 3.1. Yeah. No, I'm not going to battle that. That shit is wild. I mean, look, I Nothing would make my heart more full because the only way you're pulling 3.1, the movie's got to be good.

That's what I'm saying. The movie has to be. Oh, listen, if it's staked, I'm going to come out and go, just kidding. It has to be. It's got to be good. To the point of the greatest superhero movie of all time, not like just from the same.

Well, no, I mean, but yes and no, as long as people are hyped up and want to see it again in the theory, it's got to do super repeat business, major moments have to happen. Things have to be going nuts. You have to be setting up and really caring about the next one. That's what I believe this is. It has to be like it either has to be the greatest superhero movie of all time or you have to hit a nostalgia chord so hard the way that like the Force Awakens did.

Because that was the thing that was wow. The Force Awakens pulled two Bill and it was like the movie was fine and I really had it. I enjoyed myself but like what? Let's let's see what Endgame did. And it ultimately got over two because they kept re-releasing it to try and counterbalance Avatar. How much do you think, don't look. How much do you think endgame made?

And it's a mission to run worldwide. Worldwide. Overall. Right now, what does it stand at? I'm pretty sure it's at 2.4. What do you think, Chris? Oh, I'm going to be a dick. 2.5.

2.8. Okay. It was almost a three bill. Multiple re-releases at this point. I'm telling you by the. the end of whenever it is i'm telling when when it well okay hold on hold on we're talking initial run we're not talking about lifetime because if that's the case think about the original avatar which holds the number one spot right now i believe still even if it's multiple times over the course

of the years how much more money do you think they haven't released end game that many times where you're going to get a let's say it made in its initial run two seven they made an extra billion through its initial run i'm pretty sure its initial run was like two four no they made an four billion, dude? That's 4 million? 400 million, yes, I'm pretty sure that that was, the initial run was 2.4 because that was the whole joke is that. I think

you're making that up. Let me see. Check that up. I don't, I don't think the initial run to make another $400 million. There's no chance. So, either way, I am fully aware

that this is the craziest take that I have ever had in this show. I understand that. And I understand. anybody who's saying you're a lunatic for thinking that. I think you're right. But when it comes to, if I walk out of that movie and I'm going, I like my chances. I like my chances. Even, because remember, Avatar, and what was, and what was, let's look, what is the highest grossing movie of all time? Is it end game? It might very well might be end game. But let me see. I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with Avatar and see. Because Avatar definitely was re-released a whole bunch of

different times. First avatar stands at 2.9. First avatar. The second avatar way of water stands at 2.3. So 2.9 is, and what's Titanic? Titanic has to be, Titanic has been re-released a million times. 2.2 though. So right now it's, it's avatar. The first avatar is at 2.9. That's the biggest one. And that's, and that's, after re-releases and everything too. I'm just telling you by the time that this thing wraps up, I think it's going to hit that. And it depends also how long it is too.

Well, I guess maybe not because the first avatar is over three hours long. But yeah, I think it's, I think that people are, so you're going under. Chris, you're going under. I don't know how I like being the most pessimistic one. Oh. Oh. No, but like it shakes my worth of you.

I'm usually so hopeful. Not about this. It's okay. And then Winston, Winston's got it at two point, what did you say 2.2? Uh, you said 1.6.

You said 1.6. I said one point. I'm going to make the adjustment. I'll say one, I'll say two. I'll say that it will, again, if two is break even.

So you jump into two. Okay. I'll say two. You're going to say it's going to break even. Okay. So yeah. So in order to really make a profit, I have to be right in order to make a real huge profit.

Like, you know, like holy crap. I mean, we made a billion dollar profit. That's what it's got to do. So what do you guys think about all this? Am I as big of a lunatic as everyone that says? I think the answer is yes. Put your thoughts in there. Let us know.

And we have questions and stuff to get to. But I do want to get to this Spider-Man thing real quick. the director of the new Spider-Man movie said the following. So let's bring this up. Destin Daniel Cretton talks Spider-Man, Brand New Day trailer, responsive claims that Marvel snubbed Wonder Man. Okay, let's see. Dustin Daniel Cretton says,

he has dressed the long wait for the first Spider-Man, brand-new-day trailer, and hits back, it claims that Wonder Man was overlooked, said that Destin Daniel Cretton first joined the MCU with Shang Chi in The Legend of the Ten Rings while he was briefly attached to Avengers, the Kang Dynasty. Breton developed Wonder Man for Marvel Television and has since, Helm, I hate this commercial. It helps Spider-Man brand new day. There's a huge amount of excitement surrounding the wallcrawlers return to theaters with fans

growingly increasing impatient when it comes to the lengthy wait for a trailer. It appears that Sony Pictures is following the blueprint used for Spider-Man No Way Home. We didn't get a first look at that movie until four months before it finally hit the big screen in December 2021. Plenty of time to build excitement, especially after a leaked teaser and some recent promo art reveals. In the video below, Cretton was asked about Spider-Man brand new day Super Bowl absence and responded. I think it's so funny how people really want a trailer. Of course, it's going to come. It's going to be really good when it comes.

It's common. This isn't the only marketing grumble we've heard in recent weeks. As some fans have accused Marvel Studios with dumping Wonder Man on Disney Plus with little fanfare. In reality, the series was given a far more robust push. than many MCU series. The main difference was that all episodes released on the same day. Talking to Magic 102.1, Preton said,

if Marvel didn't care about the show, wouldn't be out in the world at all. And it definitely would not be out in the world in the form that it is. I'm very happy to see the people are loving the show for the same reasons we do because it's different. It's a bit of a big swing for Marvel to take. And I can't say it was a struggle to make. Everybody from Kevin on down really loved the tone of the show and loved what it was different and it loved pushing them. And everybody here loves movies.

and that's what the show is really about. So, yeah, the internet likes to make up the stories and narratives, but I love the passion behind it because people just love the show and want more people to see it. I'm all for that. Ultimately, Wonder Man worked better as a binge release, even if it meant sacrificing the weekly buzz. That's around a traditional release.

We learned yesterday that Spider-Noir is also dropping its eight episode on the same day. It's noted. Chung Chi and The Legend of the Ten Rings. Helmer directs Spider-Man brand-new day from a script returning the Spider-Man franchise with Chris McKenna and Eric Somers. Okay. So overall, I'll tell you what. First thing I'm going to take out of this story is that this dude is becoming a major, major star in the Marvel world.

He is, he gets it. When I hear his name now attached to things, they go, good, we're in good hands. I feel like we're in great hands at Spider-Man right now. As far as the Wonder Man thing, I couldn't agree more. I think that, look, initially, when you hear this, and I think rightfully so, you go, oh, they're dumping it all the way that they dumped Echo, the way that they dumped. the way that they dumped Ironheart, they don't have confidence in this show. I've certainly felt that way. And then you see it.

And it was what, eight episodes? I loved seven of them. I thought seven of the episodes were great. I thought this is a really good show. I liked what they did. I really liked how they played off of each other. I liked the overall story that essentially was Midnight Cowboy in this world and how they played it all together.

And I wanted to see more of them. And I loved their back and forth and how different it was and how clever it was. And it absolutely played as a binge thing. because even like the episode everyone I loved that I hated, if that would have been week to week and I'm watching it, I'm so locked in and I got to wait every week. And then like, I'll get a third episode. Okay, what's now?

Oh, he got it. He's got the, what the hell is this? Ding dong? Get this out of my face. What is this? Oh, I don't know I want to come back next week.

But instead I went, all right, that episode was the farts. Let's go to the next one. And I was right back into it and I was locked in. So I, and even that episode, very well directed, put together, well, it should have been a side DVD episode, but it was overall,

you could see that he really gets it. And Chris, I love this comments. How'd you feel about it? Oh, I love all of this. I think he nails it. This show is getting such great reception. And I'm so happy that the people who have been, you know, cheering it on from the get-go are actually like standing behind it and everything still. because we say, see this happens so much with Marvel, right? Oh, it's so great. It's one of the best things we've done. Oh, it's so new and interesting because you have to. It's a business.

And it's so nice when they deliver and that everyone is being really honest about this is something so unlike what we've done before. We think the tone is really interesting. We think this is something people are going to really enjoy and the binge format works well for it. Because the binge format did work well for it. I know Winston and I talked about this maybe last week or a week ago of just the bummer is people not talking about it as much anymore. Right. But I keep finding at least, and I know that I'm also in a little actor bubble. I teach acting classes.

And so this show constantly keeps coming up. So I do feel like it has a little bit more longevity, probably because it is one of those kinds of answers to superhero fatigue, mediocrity fatigue, of going, oh, look at a really cool, interesting way that you can approach these things. And my hope is ultimately this reenergizes people over at Marvel to do things like this. Kind of like how DC's, yeah, DC's playing with like Clayface, right? Play in your sandbox. Do some weird shit. Get crazy and see what happens. And again,

always come back to character-focused stories because that's Marvel's actual superpower. It doesn't matter who's behind. It doesn't matter that they have a mask. It matters who's behind it. And that's what we're always interested in championing. Them having extraordinary powers and being extraordinary circumstances, that's just icing. We really want good stories about people who we can really get behind

and learn about the inner. machinations of how they want to get things done. 100%. I think that's what he did well in Shang Chi were building up. And I think, and I could be wrong, but I think he was given Marvel notes at the end of that movie because that's another movie for me, like the stuff that what Chris is talking about, the character stuff, the stuff with his family, the thing with his sister, that's the stuff that worked for me. The ending Marvel traditional ending with the dragons running around, all that, I can take that. You can throw that out and I never have to watch it again.

but it's the stuff that you put the stuff on the bus, the way that he incorporated like martial arts inside of it, but still incorporated it to how he was growing up, the relationship he had with Aquafino. That stuff he does so well. And I think Winston, if you're a Spider-Man guy, you're probably pretty thrilled right now that he's the one doing that because you need that relationship

with Peter and what he's been going through since the event of the last one. So you've got to feel like you're in pretty good hands with this guy, right? A thousand percent. I've always said that like movies. movies are very similar to like cooking. Like you kind of have like your base foundation of stuff that's going on and Chris kind of nailed it. Like the character work and the story work is like kind of picking out your protein and like

the main, you know, kind of vegetables that you want. When you spectacle is really spices in that regard. You need the spices because that's what gives it even more flavor. But you don't want to overcook your protein and all that kind of stuff, et cetera, et cetera. So I think where we've run into trouble with superhero fatigue is like, bigger, better, Kang, Kang will be crazy, but you didn't really give me the character work of Kang. I don't know what this meat is supposed to be.

I don't know where this is going. And so what Destin does, and he's now proven it twice, knows exactly what protein he's working with. And he is being very particular with that first and then worrying about, you know, making sure you salt bait up. So I feel so confident in what he's going to do. And I would even argue, I can

understand for Christian, hey man, doorman was a little bit too much spice. I need all that. I personally, I've said this before, it reminded me of an episode of Atlanta. And considering that's one of my favorite TV shows of all time, it immediately put me back on this mentality of this is weird as shit, but it's weird as shit.

I just would like to see it as a side episode, like, released on the Marvel YouTube channel. It was it was just such a record scratch to like the great build up they had with them. And again, it was to show like what happened and why the thing was, show me in three minutes. I don't need a full episode of why. But again, I am in the minority of them.

Most people love that episode. Yeah, yeah. But I guess that was just like my, like I said, that's that extra bit of spice, that extra bit of flavor that because everything else were now, if, if you had done a lot of that tone throughout, I think I'm on the same page with you, but it was the perfect little kind of like side quest as far as all that goes for me just because of, you know, how that's going. Well, I like, I was, I like with, I like with Creighton, though overall what he, he also got got a good shot to help me with my lunatic prediction.

Because if Spider-Man hits a bill, which is very well good. And that post-credit scene does what I hope it will is going to shove some more asses in those seats to make me look a little less crazy than I already am. So we shall see. Either way, I ask you guys, what do you think about? Spider-Man. I feel like everybody feels like we're in good hands. Do you guys feel the same way? So make sure you put your thoughts in there. Let us know. Thank you very little. All right. Let's get to the question because we have 52 thus far. Whoa. To start. I mean, look, the positive and negative is yes, you're starting with 52 as we get to the

questions. It usually you have an hour. You have 45 minutes now because we we covered a little much into the topics. But we had good topics to talk about. So let's get into the first one. Hey, hey, hey, Mr. CJ. Happy Friday, Capes and Cows roll out. I just watched The Last Dragon with you, too, Christian Winston, so much fun. And congratulations on your first posit.

Prish, a nice workout video. Thank you. Yeah, I know, look, I had two of them. I wasn't going to post both of them, but I did because I was like, listen, I want to do, I want to start posting more of those things, more stuff with diet, more stuff with working out, more of those things.

So I've been posting more on Instagram and a lot of people were very simple. Mike Joyce. Sean Moroni was a hot topic on the hot mic. I know I got to watch the rest of it. Armada 8YT. Mentioned the scoop at the beginning of the Tuber chats and they talked about it more from 129 to 13312.

All right. I'll watch. I'll watch. Armada 8YT also saw digital planets last night. That's great. I'm at Butterfly, Rebirth of Slick. Cool like that. That's awesome.

Love digital planets. Awesome. That's cool. Greeny from Oz. Second week of film school and doing sound editing must frustrating thing I've ever done.

1,000% gained a new respect reset for L.G for this stuff. It isn't easy. No, that's why not everybody does it. It was easy.

It's a nightmare. Oh, yeah. Armada. Shout out to all the people that assisted for the show on Moroni question after was mentioned. It's Rooka forgot about the bit.

At least the comments in the show made it hilarious to where it made him remember. Oh, did he finally remember? Okay, I got to go back and watch. Michael D. Happy Black Friday, Valentine's Day Eve. Chris and Christian cameo spotted on the Transformers Apology for on Instagram. Are you guys really? Yes. Like I said, they reached out and they asked if they could feature our reaction.

El Optimus Prime became a new member. Great time to be a member. Ask Greeny's been a member for 11 months. Also, any advice when it comes to writing shorts? I kind of hate it. Writing them full-length features is way funner. I think the first bit of advice is love what you're writing. That's that for sure.

My best piece of advice for that, because I actually write a lot of sketches and a lot of short films more than anything. If you're a feature writer, then think of it as like writing it as a meaty or scene that you have, because more or less, a feature film is just a bunch of shorts strung together to make sense. So pick a meaty scene from a feature that you really want to write and then really flush that out and that's a short.

So, greeny from Oz. I got to come up with a short film script before the end of the year. Thinking about calling it purgatory, what happens you die in heaven and hell. And a twist ending is nobody really knows. That's pretty awesome.

I love that. Yeah. Well, good luck to you. Yeah, just put your effort in it. What echo kind of what Winston said. Love that avatar. Look at that. Guys, that's Mike.

clearly. Johnny Patricea. We watched Chris Evans 2009 will be pushed. It's a good movie. I really like it and always wanted a sequel. Have you guys seen it? Yeah, a long time ago. I mean, it maybe could work as a reaction episode. I never saw that. Did I see that? Is that one way of superhero powers, right? Did I see it? Yeah, yeah, he's done a lot of superhero stuff. I guess they're telekinetic or something.

Yeah, maybe I didn't see it, but I remember the, I don't know. I can't remember. I remember the movie, though. Nathan Drake. So between Campi and Snyder, it seems like Sadie Sink, is pretty much confirmed as Gene Gray. Spider-Man, Brand New Day is starting to sound a little overstuffed. It is? Why? Why is it sounding overstuffed?

Because it has... Unisher Hulk, Gene Gray, which means you're trying to really push the X-Men at that point. Spider-Man doesn't know... Nobody knows who Spider-Man is. He lost his people, but his people are still around. There's a lot going on, but... Sure, but what's the story?

We haven't... This goes back to this thing, saying a million times over, and the story that we just carved. There's no trailer yet. Right. If you look at the trailer and you go, it seems over stuff. I don't really know what to do it.

I don't know what the story is yet. I can't say it's the same way. Everyone's like, it's nostalgia bait. I mean, Chris said it beforehand, right? Which initially when it came to Chris Evans, she's going, oh, there we go, nostalgia is putting him in there because it is. And then she's like, well, at least they're incorporating him into a storyline that makes a little bit more sense.

That's my point. We don't know anything yet. Right. End game. Could walk out an end game going, my god, they're just throwing in those in and they go, hey, remember that guy? Yeah, he didn't have anything to do, but you remember that guy? Look that guy.

And I go, well, that's not making $3.1 billion. I'm crazy. Possible, but you haven't seen the movie. Same thing with this. How you know, it's overstuffed? You haven't seen it. There's just a lot of, I, I will give the benefit of the doubt here of knowing that Spider-Man 3, they tried to shove too many storylines and too many characters into that.

Totally. I can see the fear of hearing the word Spider-Man, and then Gene Gray Punisher, Hulk, multiple villains he has to deal with that you go oh god I'm having flashbacks it's not man like but I think that that's the thing is what you just said right so it's like for me it's always wording

it's like Nathan who's a avid and great contributor on the channel every single day I think the wording of so between let's say if she confirmed Gene Gray as I see this I'm getting nervous that this could be overstuffed

it's fair it's starting to sound over stuffed. We don't know if it's overstuffed. You can see it's starting to sound. How? How is it starting to sound? You don't have it, you don't have a story yet. We also don't know where Gene's at in her power usage. Right. Yeah. Or how much you did it? Yeah, she's a

classmate of Peters and she keeps getting horrific migraines and things keep happening around her and this can kind of be a little bit of a backdoor pilot to the X-Men, you know? We're not sure how everyone's being utilized. And do you guys think that's, I mean, for two people who loved the new Superman, You think Superman was overstuffed?

Uh, yeah, at times. Overall, the movie, so you didn't like it. My, I, I enjoyed the film, but it was overstuffed in the sense that, like, you introduced, I've said this multiple times. Why do we introduce all those people the Daily Planet to not really ever do that? Like, there was, I would have loved to, like, genuinely have more time with, with any of those characters. I feel like the only ones that really got any time to shine were essentially lowest and Mr.

terrific. I feel like everybody else was just kind of a set dressing type scenario. You didn't necessarily need to introduce that many people if you're not going to spend time with them. This made me laugh. This made me laugh. Princess. The interview is being pre-taped in two weeks. Damn. Not a pre-tape. Okay. I can't do live. So Mike's going to be on the show.

We can't, we can't. It's Mike and Roxy. It's Mike and Roxy. I'm really disappointed that I didn't get a phone call, but whatever, Christian. You weren't part of that. If it was Sarah Jay, it's another conversation. No, that would not. Alexis, Texas, sure.

All right. Where is it? Where is I'm going back? More, more, more, more, more, more. is this another one sorry sorry it was the last one we did rewatch chris evans do that one okay coran bro christian's in this l and i know no no just yeah i know i missed i missed a few

it's friday friday has been uh tough because sam can come in on fridays and we're trying to really knock through game of thrones so there's going to be quite a few fridays that you know chris and wins still have to take over because i got to try to knock this series out who remember most fun friday the thirteenth movie Freddie versus Jason counts. I mean, that's the most fun because you get this. It's like a UFC fight. Dude, I told you I went to my first UFC fight, right?

Oh, you didn't tell me that you actually went. You told me you were going, and it was great, right? Oh, dude, it was fantastic. I told you, the energy. Dude, I'm a huge fan now of Patty the Batty, bro. Oh, yeah. He's the man. Like, you should have won that fight.

Like, my boy got knocked out twice in the beginning and still was like, nah, son, I ain't done. I was like, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And it was a, and they didn't even call. they didn't even call that Poconii. I know, which was nonsense.

It was very clearly a Poconio. It was too fast. The referee didn't see it. But that was a good card to be at that first Paramount card. That was really cool. And like I think the thing that made me laugh is my homeboys who were like who we went for his bachelor party. He was telling me, I guess they really like the black dude. I guess he'd been fighting forever.

I don't remember his name. But they also had the, there's a black referee that he always lets the fights go a little too long. So someone almost dies that he kind of reminds me of, They were saying they reminded him of, God, what's his name? Lawler as like an announcer where he'll be like, he'll get really animated. Like, no, it's too much. It's too much.

You got to stuff. Right, right. Well, not the takeaway from this guy's poor question. Chris probably hasn't seen a lot of the Friday 13 movies. I haven't seen any of them. Right. So Winston, you have one or no? It's probably Freddie versus Jason because I don't watch a lot of those either.

But I saw that one and that was a lot of fun for sure. Yeah, that one and the fourth. one or the ones that I would say for sure. Okay. Next one. That's Nathan. I'm excited for Spider-N-N-Wara, but also worried about too much Nick Cage craziness.

It didn't work for Ghost Rider when he went full cage. I understand that concern. I understand that concern, but I think that he used it so well in the animated voice that he's going to carry that over into the live action. What do you guys think? Yeah. I want him to go full cage.

I kind of want him to go full cage. I kind of need him to go focus. I think for this we need it. B.K.A. Burrell, sending support just so Roka doesn't win. Well, he's still got, he still got, you know, almost 30, 30 away in order to. That's the energy we need, though, people. Come on. Connor Mullis.

Let us run out of pettiness. Pierre, where you been? Nice to see. Winston and Chris for the win. Superman kills. It's hilarious. Argo, 45, 12. Love the new Game of Thrones.

Duncan showed so good. it is great only wish the episodes were longer i feel like they go by too quick i actually i think that that's one of the reasons it's so successful i haven't seen it yet oh it's so good yeah we're binging to catch up today i'm very excited oh you should you it's it's how many have you seen i've seen none of them oh you've seen none of them you're going to have half hour episodes the first one is 40 something minutes the rest are all 30 minutes and like and normally depending on like you know i hate when marvel and star wars do it because they usually use that time for big you know scenes in a cave fighting a monster instead of building what like Chris said earlier about building the

characters this show does not do that when it when it when it gets to the action scenes it earns it and it leads up to it it's uh it's great and the two leads are are amazing they're amazing so it's one of my favorite shows on tv right now um okay Mike Joyce you see the Olympian competing with venom helmet no but it's amazing you guys see that I saw the Olympians I saw the Olympian that after he meddled immediately went to the press. It was like, I cheated on my girl. I miss her so much. Wait, you see that cheetah.

That new region was wild. Yeah. He's hilarious. He meddled. And then he go, they were like, so how are you feeling goes? This has actually been the worst week of my life. I cheated on my girl. And I told her and she, she wants nothing to do with me.

And it's the worst mistake I ever made. I hate it. I hate it. Come back, baby. Where? And it sounds like a Saturday Live sketch. I know. They have to.

They have to do it on Saturday Night Live. I'm sure they will. Marcello should do that. That'd be great. All right. Connor, not to get political. But do you refer Cheerios or fruity pebbles in your spaghetti? I prefer neither.

That's disgusting. I happen to agree with you. My wife for Super Bowl made the greatest meatball sandwiches. It was so good. Oh, dude. I didn't realize the girlfriend's responded. She's like, yeah, it's hard to forgive him for cheated on me. And also making this a public thing.

It's a guy just keeps stepping. do-do. Araigo, 45-12, new trailer came out called Dark Water for Aaron Eckhart new movie about a plane crash in the ocean with sharks. It's going to be very entertaining. Is that the one with Ben Kingsley? I don't know, but I've definitely

heard about that movie. I saw a trailer for it randomly. Is that Rennie Harlan? Is that the Rennie Harlan one? Let me see. Let me know. Argo, I was a very big Westworld fan, especially the first two seasons. I feel like everything going on with AI and robots that show would be even bigger if it was

released today. Maybe so. People love that show. I never got into it. People loved it. Yeah, I didn't end up getting into it personally. Okay, let's see. J.C., does Donald Glover cameo make Spider-Verse in the MCU? Oh, does Donald Glover's cameo make Spider-Verse MCU? I feel like it does, right? Yeah. At that point, it has to be. Why wouldn't it be? I mean, it would make sense. I mean, all the different multiverses and everything, too? Why wouldn't it be? Especially because you brought the actual live action Donald Glover. Like, yeah, I think

Of course, yeah, I think that all the different universes that, I mean, they should. That might be why beyond is so delayed, maybe. Maybe it was like we need to kind of try and find a way to align all this up because the whole talk is that

ultimately Miles will show up in real life. Maybe. It would be cool. Connor Mullis, guess what I'm eating? Spaghetti and Curious. I was going to, No, actually, I'm going to guess, I'll guess again. I'll say Texas Roadhouse Buttery Rolls.

I was going to say sunflower seeds and raccoon meat. What do you think? Breakfast? No, I'm going to say Texas Roadhouse Buttery Rolls. If you guess Texas Roadhouse Buttery Rolls, you'd be incorrect. Oh, you got this. I'm eating Reese's puffs. So milky.

Oh, hey. That's breakfast. Yeah, and no, there's no spaghetti of my reason. Thank you, God. Darth Vader's burnt asshole. Hot take. But I'm with Winston. I've seen enough moral movies and there's only been one Supergirl movie.

Doomsay isn't doing it for me if I can only watch one Supergirl? Well, you guys will be the four people in the theater. Damn. No, no, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Look, we both said it's going to do, it's going to do, you know, it's going to make money. It's just got to make profit by having a, I think $200 million is a, if that is indeed the budget is a crazy amount of money.

That's insane. That's, but I think it's stupid. Two, so was a billion dollars, Christian. I know. Look, a billion dollars is making an event going off of an Avengers movie, which is, you know, you're trying to make an event thing out of it. I get the risk. A $200 million supergirl movie, I think is crazy. I think it's irresponsible, to be honest with you.

If that's your case, it might not be 200 million. Real quick. Deepwater, not dark water, but yes, that is Aaron Eckhart and Ben Kingsley. Oh, Rennie Harlan, okay. Yeah, I heard about it too. Connor Mullis, I'm more excited for Supergirl. Winston, a true Dodgers fan. That's the best comment ever.

I'm glad you liked it. Happy birthday, bitch. He says, I'm just playing, Wilson. You know I love you. There you go. Shea Markell in phase four and five would have done, Winston's a big Seahawks fan now. If phase four and five...

Yeah, the Seahawks get me laid. Kiss my ass. Don't do this. Just as well as previous phases. Do you think they would be bringing, he'd be a Patriots fan. They would have been bringing RDAJ right now. Ever, ever, ever. The fact that I'm still friends with Roxy is wild to me.

Never in a million fucking years. All right, all right. And if phase four and five would have done just as well as previous phases, do you think they would be bringing in RDJ and CAP right now? I firmly believe they would not. I agree with you. If the things didn't happen with, you know,

Jonathan Major, and everything, they still be doing Kang right now. Yep. So, yeah, if everything had working out and they were making hits left and right, they were, what, our plans are good. We don't need to, we don't need to readjust and course correct. We're good. Of course not. But that's not what happened. Super smart. Well, 256. Chris, thoughts on Ben 10. Any? If not, you got to watch ASAP. Oh, I watch some of it. It's cute. I like it. Dee Bradley Baker is the goat doing all those

different alien voices. He kills it. Yeah. Future Zike Guys to mention, the buildup is already there. The Russo Brothers said at the premiere end game, they're coming back for Secret Wars. Well, yeah, we knew that. We knew they're coming back for Secret Wars. The question is if they're coming back for X-Men. They said if they ever do Secret Wars, they would come back.

They didn't like, but at the time, that wasn't necessarily what they were going to do. Oh, they're coming back. Okay, seriously. Like at Endgame, they specifically said we wouldn't do another one unless they do Secret Wars. Call us. Okay, okay. uh kacy grant christian don't tell me you're more excited for masters and supergirl one looks like guardians than the other thor what if you could only see one master's universe all day but that's not because

of anything except of my history with it guys you know like i have a i've i have to see that movie like i'm i'm what do i think will be the better movie i think supergo's got a shot to be the better movie based off of a the story that everybody talks about and be what i've heard about masters is that And I don't like Travis Knight's comments about how silly it's going to be. If it's more love and thunder than it is Ragnarok, I'm going to be very disappointed. But if you feel like you can only see one, I got to see master. I mean, with my history, of course, all day long, master. I know the answer for you guys, we're super well obviously on that one.

Ken yakking, hard to be excited for Doomsday with zero IMAX screen. Are there really going to be zero IMAX screening? Well, for the least for the first couple of weeks. because of Dune. Oh, that's right. That's insane. Dune owns it for three weeks. That is insane.

That's also why I like my prediction. Because after three weeks it goes into IMAX, people are going to want to see it in an IMAX. So. It's a me interesting. Yeah, it's not zero IMAX. It's just IMAX after three weeks. So zero IMAX screenings initially.

And that's why that's why Dune's not moving. Connor, Clayface just got delayed from September 11th to October, 23rd genius move. Yeah, it's a great time to put it in. I agree. Over? Yeah. On the Halloween. Yeah, absolutely. J.C., random thought. Obo Femi from WWE should play the costume version of Venom. Have you seen his shadow pose at the beginning of his matches? You know, the thing is a look, and he very well might be a great actor. I don't know. But a look as opposed to

doing it on screen is two different things, right? Because like Jade Cargo looks just like storm but i wouldn't trust her to say hey do you know where the highway is she she's terrible in promos terrible so i wouldn't have anyone neal look she looks just like storm is what they're implying kind of like what happens with like mandolorean where it's like something like that you're just doing the physicality but somebody else is that's the case and yes yeah um okay let's see the g-man I'm hyped for Spider-N-War. Also, Sandman is being played by Jack Houston, grandson of Maltese Falcon writer, director, John Houston.

Jack Houston's great. Big fan of his. I like him. I like him a lot. Hussker for Life, Jackass 5 is out the same day as Supergirl. I think that will take a lot of its box office. I think that's a different audience, but I would be lying if I told you I didn't want to see Jackass 5.

I'm going to have a fun double feature. The fact of four was actually pretty good. I didn't know what to expect. I definitely want to see it. But I will, I guarantee you I'm going to Supergirl first. And then I'll like jackass five will be like, you know,

when the missus doesn't want to, I'll go see it on like a day off or something. Oh, it makes me laugh. Every single time. Connor Moll's favorite hot sauce. Chulula. Mine's maple syrup. So spicy.

I like Chulula. Connor. Menace. What about you guys? We always have Tapatio in the house. I like Juanitas. We also have some DeBomb when we want to get real crazy. But Tabasco's Scorpion sauce is the best one.

I mean, we black, crystal, you know, Red Rooster, Louisiana. Joe for show. Doomsday clears two bill very easily and cruised to astronomical numbers when its run is over. That's what I think. I think it's going to, I'm telling you. It's going to be, it's going to be phenomenal. Go pal. One billion dollar.

much remote movie is completely insane i don't disagree with that at all this is this is the biggest risk of all time g man dune's day 2.6 bill with domestic office of 1.1 bill that's the thing is i think it's going to play very well internationally and i think you think china's going to be back all in yeah and this for this one yeah it's got everybody in their mother in it go pal then marvel is thinking of splitting secret wars into two i think that's even more of a possibility now if they're with all this. I think he absolutely is going to be split. Do you guys think that? They should split it into two. There's too much ground to cover, in my opinion. It would have made sense to do Secret Wars 1 and Secret Wars 2 is like the two movies. So there's,

there's way too much ground to cover and I hope they split it. I hope so too. And he gives us a little bit more to do. Haskell, hey gang, if Doomsday is legit fantastic on every level with major shock surprises, it could crush and then the IMAX boost in January after June. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think that that's going to, that's going to do major numbers for it. Next one, Connor. Roka likes canned peas. Hashtag beat Roka. He does.

Also, real quick, Chris, DeBom is disgusting. Oh, it's horrible. It's horrible. We have it in our house for when we want to, like, do a bet or, like, I was going to say, do you, do you, like, just put it on each other food when you're mad? Like, what is going on? We don't use it. We do keep it in the house for our friend, Mia Tepalian, who does have a play coming out about hot sauce.

but she like will actually put it on and be like it's kind of spicy because she's a lunatic but for us it's like if you lose a bet you do a dab a like i have bottles of the last dab because i'm a big hot one i have that too yeah but but the debaum specifically is just a concentrate it's disgusting oh it tastes like um vomit that wants to kill you yes i've seen that it's accurate that i saw that the new sea breeze uh go pal Marvel gonna end up selling off their characters again even with the mouse's Scrooge McDuck money being behind them, but they keep overspending like that. You can't say that yet.

Like they're taking a risk on one of their biggest IPs ever. You know, if you're going to, if they were putting a risk on, you know, some random movie that if they were making the black cauldron into a live action movie and they were spending a billion dollars on it, then yeah, they'd be lunatics. I want to see that movie. I would want to see that movie so bad. Me too.

But, yeah, I wouldn't count them out yet with that. Nathan Drake, can we get a John Lovitz? He's lost his mind in reaction to $3.1 billion prediction insanity. He said what? He's losing his mind. And I'm reaping all the benefits. Connor, my cat tofu is going to the vet today. She's watching you guys now.

Give her some words of encouragement, please. It's a good kitty. Stay firm. Yes, please. Hang in there. Look at a poster of another cat doing that. Yes, please do. Mike Joyce, beat Roka, support for Christian's dog.

Thank you. Support for Winston's dog. Support for Chris's dogs. Thank you, Mike. How's the little Johnny Fats? He's doing good. Actually, he's a little asshole the last couple of days because it's a longer story because it's been harder.

Like when it was like three degrees here, I had to like let him out and put his sweater on him and put him out in the back, let him pee and poop out there because like taking him for walks was was not a thing. Not a thing. and then he said, oh, yeah, well, I'm going to piss on this. And he hasn't pissed in the house in three years. And you're like, you little asshole. Anyway, Big Gil, Winston, love you, man.

The general public knows cap as Steve Rogers. Yes, it's cool to see Sam as cap. He didn't work, just like he didn't work in the comics. I mean, again, I'd stand by he didn't work because they did a bad job. Like, that's my only difference. But I, but I, I mean, look, I hear what you're saying. I actually thought that the run worked well and having Steve come back in his own capacity also work. fine but I but again I just don't you should have been focusing on Isaiah

Bradley and really the two of them and how that goes instead again you were focused on red hole the whole time so yeah uh futures like guys to mention I don't understand the hate of the dragons do you guys hate the dragons and the leveling up because the power creeping the MCLE like was live action dragon balls who hates oh in shangchi didn't hate no hates no hates didn't like that they used a marvel you know when they set up everything so good with a character stuff and then they throw in a, I didn't, I didn't like it just to me, it just seemed like, we need a big ending. It's like it seemed like such a studio note. It seemed like such a studio note.

Like we need, yeah, great, they're set up so well. The characters, we need something big, extravagant. How about they got dragons flying in the air? It's like, great, throw dragons in there. It's like that's so I was just, I didn't need it. I was so invested in the rest. It felt like they, part of my issue is, correct me from wrong, Chris, that wasn't FingFing Fang Fum. Like it felt like they sort of wanted to do that character, but they didn't.

You know what I'm saying? I think you're correct. Yeah. Or it was just, those are some dragons. Yeah. Like if you would full on gone Fing Fing Fong, then I think it would have been like, oh, oh, we're doing it. But I think that they went half ass on that. Would you rather have pet bear or run faster? I would definitely rather run faster. Let me die as I live touching a strange animal and hoping it's my best friend. Is that your college you? I just thought that was the standard white girl mantra.

Oh my gosh. It is. We're fearless. We're like a puppy. Right. Chris, I actually had a friend with it. She was hilarious.

She was driving and she goes, a poor lost dog. And she went to get out and she got close. She said, that's a coyote. And she ran back to her car. And she's half white. I was like, that's a lot. Constantly.

That's a Twitter video waiting to happen. I'll go walking Burbank and be like, a new friend. Oops. Mattie B. Support for the Cooters and Cal's crew. Thank you. Google says that Clayface will feature Matt Hagan

as the titular character, played by actor Tom Reese Harris. Interesting. Oh. You're going Hagen. Okay. Okay. Christian Unpronounceable.

Chris, just sub to the two filthy casuals. Thank you. We have a new episode out today, so you'll have new content. Yay, yeah, yay. And shout out to Christian Unpronounceable for coming to check out Blurds in the hood, man. Oh, yeah.

Next one. Connor Molls put Penny Barber in the pilot. Not the pilot, but I'll tell you what, there is a, there's a world where the character could interview her. I'll tell you that. That's all I'll say. Gregory Dobtr. Hey, Christian, Chris and Chris, what's your favorite superhero growing up and has it changed? Spider-Man is mine, comics-wise, MCU changed and film-wise.

Superman was always my, the Christopher Reeves Superman was always my guy. Now it's probably, it's probably Iron Man. Now, I was really looking for, Superman was my most antitist. anticipated movie last year. I don't even think he made my top 10 best movies last year. Yeah. Damn. Yeah.

Batman was mine growing up. He's still on my rush more. It just depends on the day. Sometimes it's Black Panther. Sometimes it's Nightwing. Like I have an infinity more for Nightwing than Batman a lot. But, but yeah.

Batman's up there. Yeah. Loved Batman, but Spider-Man was my guy. Still is. But then as I started reading more comics, I started getting more into like dark justice. And I really enjoy like John Constantine and Zatanna.

Etrigan, those kind of stories. It's a good one. Gregory Dobshire, I would have retired Spider-Man as Fave, but Miles. Good, too. Yeah, good too. The G-Man, I'm loving Knights of Seven Kingdom as well, Egg Rules. That kid is amazing. That kid is so good. He's so good. Oh, I'm so glad. Yeah, this shows awesome. It shows awesome. I'm pumped.

Graney from Oz, love to see you pump the iron, Christian. Thank you. I really need to start doing it again. It's definitely the best antidepressant for those folks who might deal with them. 100%. It really does get me in a mood of just like, okay, let's get the day going and just gets work. So, Winston, you've been, you still been going? I didn't even. Yeah, yeah, I've, I, um, last week I didn't get to go at all, but, um, what I did, I've already done leg and chest this week.

I'm going to do my back by today. And then I'm doing, uh, shoulders on Sunday before we do a marathon stream. I'll plug that later. But on Sunday I'm going to get my shoulders in. So you know what I was going to do is there's a trainer at the gym who helped me would take that picture. and or take the video rather and she's going to Italy.

Do some stuff too and I was like you know I was going to post her Instagram here and have the she's trying to build up her following users tell me about it and I was like well you know what randomly put it in the chat and have the audience subscribe to her and she's like how the hell do I

I said right now she has 300 what what is it I can do like a screen share if you Yeah, yeah, do that. It's, where is it? It is, M-I-C-H-E-L-A-N-D-R-O-F-N-D-R-O-F-N-R-F-N-F-E-R-O-Fitness. D-R-O-Fitness. Michelle Land-R-O.

Yeah, she's a nice kid. Okay, give me one second. Let's see, screen share, Instagram. There you go. All right. You just added to it. Yeah. So, so, right now, 3-4.

four followers. I see it posted my video there too. He just gave me, so if, and it's the gym that I go to, so if you guys go and right now it's like 304, get her to like 320. So then that way this is like, you know, how the hell did I get that right before she goes daily?

She's going to Italy for like four months or taking her mom and her brother with her for a little bit. It was nice. All right. So, love to see you on it. So appreciate that. And it does. It really does start. you guys um the mental thing it's amazing go pal maybe you can do a nick cage action star reaction in may for spider noir con air the rock face off maybe i've there's a lot of nick cage movies i haven't

um we got we definitely have to do nick cage movies for sure go pal chiro's trash if you're not one i don't agree how dare you yeah i just had some honey nut churios the other day I mean that slaps hard. Regular. Regular is just cardboard. Chocolate Cheerios too. Yummy. Go pal. What was the studio running Harlan bankrupted? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Not sure. Which one? Prady. Chris, AI people having seven fingers is so last year. Yep. Deep seat A2. AI is already too good. It's already too good to tell the difference. Don't bury your head in the sand. Realistic AI is already here. It is. Oh, my love. I'm not bearing my head in my sand. I just, I hate it. I hate it. I get off my back meetings to work on. AI, I every time one of you posts like, look at this caricature that AI made me.

Good job. Throw out a bottle of water. Every time you has chat, GPT something, you move the doomsday clock up forward. I hate it. She hates it so much. Rinaldo Leon. Hey, crew, love you all. I'm doing a double feature for Black History Month watching Meteor Man.

It's great one. And Black Man. Yeah, yeah. Take care and be safe. 100%. It's a great one. Two of the greatest superhero movies ever, bro. Because you also have like it's the 90s styling of it and the con.

Oh, bro. I love those movies. Yep. I've never seen Meteor Man. But a tiny baby Logan went as Blank Man for Halloween, several Halloweens in a row. She's running around Nebraska with people going, Who are you?

Yeah, who are you? Matt Krugman. Winston, I don't know if you're following current DC Comics right now, but did you catch DCCO number four this week? My God, absolute madness. No pun. Dude, it is so good. That and the kind of spinoff that's also DCCO of Batman,

a night fight where essentially Bruce is having to fight all of the Robbins as if they became Batman. Oh my God, dude. The run has, they're on a tear right now. I'm loving it. I actually was talking to Koi about it. Him and I reconnected over

over. Yeah. Greenie from Oz. Casting AI actor with biopics could have the actual person who biopics about playing themselves. Kurt Engel, for example, does no one could do person I would love to see him. But the problem is, the Problem is if you did it with the actual person. One, are they going to really dive deep into all their stuff?

And two, Kurt Angle can't play an 18-year-old Kurt Angle? Is that what you're saying? Or casting AI actor of biopics? I think that's the thing is doing an AI version of it. Be himself. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Chris loves that.

J.C. Yes, I was just throwing the way that Mando does it. Oh, okay. Okay. Legend, M. 600. Friday the 13th. It is the 13th. What are you all doing tonight? Nothing because everybody's still, it's

Valentine's Day weekend. So people are still, I wanted to go to take my wife to dinner tonight, but it's still packed even on Friday. So it's like, we don't do shit for Valentine's Day. So, uh, it's the worst. Oh, we, we do and we don't. We also agree that like it's, it's just a commercialized whatever. But what we do is we go to a store. We each give each other $25 budget and then we go and find like a random

present. So like, uh, The first year we did it, we both went in and we both came back with like, okay, so I got these Nerf guns. And we were like, holy shit, we picked the same presence. So we went and got like nicer ones and had like a Nerf fight and all that kind of stuff. So like I like doing stuff like that. I'm going to Universal today. And then we cook for Valentine's Day.

You're right. That, that, that, we. Poetry and cooks me. See, that stuff I support all day long. We used to like cook steaks and stuff for each other and do those things. That's great. It's just the whole, the whole big. it's one of the things about my wife she's never ever been like oh it's valentine's day what are we

going to do whatever uh go pal best super bowl ad was cliff booth trailer uh it was a great trailer that was really really good i really like that um there was another one that had me that that that i actually liked but a vast majority of them weren't great oh i hated most of them i thought the use of celebrity was like i don't why are i hated that part yeah i hated that part Because I was like, none of you have now sold me on whatever project. You've just made me go, why are there a be a bazillion of you in all these commercials? The only one that did it well, Pokemon. Or I was like, hell yeah, Lady Gaga would be friends with jiggly puff.

That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. Let's see. Man's voice. Hey, we're dragons in there. Reviewing the latest Penny Barber video. That's true.

Greenie from Oz. Bearded Hemsworth should lead the MCU. He is God. He's coming back, man. I'm excited to have him back too. Oh, Goodwill. Duncan. I actually really liked that one. That was funny. I liked it. I liked, but I thought that that one was another one where it was like, that to me was the whole point of the nostalgia thing.

I was like, was it really very well written? It wasn't, but I think that's why it felt like they were making fun of themselves. But it was just cool to look at it. Look at that guy. It was article. JC. Cashed yourself as comic villains. Oh, I don't know. Oh, Moorone, whatever the guy's name is from Batman, Gangster. Oh, nice. Okay. Probably

Electro. That's a good one. Nice. Pamela Isley or Star Sapphire. That's good too. Ooh. Ooh. I did just the Super Bowl commercial thing.

I forgot. I really liked that, God, which one was it? The tight end one about the prostate cancer. Which one? It was like, Look at how relaxed these tight ends are. And it's all the, like, it's kiddle and Tony Gonzalez and whatever.

And then it was Bruce Ariens being like, you know, I had prostate cancer. Oh, no. But guys, relax your tight ends. It's just a blood test now. And so then all the tight ends just let their little go. Oh, they're like released through one. And see it. Page 79.

Did the first super chat last week. So I'll be all shirts off Valentine's Day. Yeah. Oh, she did. She did. Yeah. I don't get it. Because I showed my Dragon Ball tattoo and then all of a sudden, page goes,

pull out the deadest okay charade Christian lost boys and musical in spring at the palace theater are you going to give us a review come on

come on good for the west coasters but I'm not going to be at the palesteader isn't that the west coasts am I is it's a palisthier in New York I don't know what that is sorry but no I mean

if it's in if it's in New York then maybe I will take my daughter to go see it but that'd be Cool to see. It'd be fun. Maddie B. Rennie Harlan is widely credited with contributing to the bankruptcy of Caroloco pictures following the 1995 cutthroat island. That's a terrible movie. Yeah, it was a bad move. Go pal.

I'm allergic to peanuts, so no honey nut Cheerios. Okay, well, then that's fair that you think they're trashed because they're trying to kill you. Night Fox. Good luck. Have fun. Don't die. It was a pretty good movie. Did you see it? Good. I saw it a couple weeks ago. I put out my out of the theater reaction. I heard it was crazy, right?

It's already going to make my top 10 of the year, I think. Yeah, I heard it was good. I heard of it. Oh, good. I think one of our, one of our members told me about it. I didn't get a chance to see it. It's about AI, social media, and simulation. Okay. You liked everything everywhere, right?

Yeah, I loved it. And you loved like time travel shit. Love it. Yeah. That's right. You're going to fucking love this. All right. Sean McAve. Sending some love. Enjoy the weekend, everyone. Thank you, Sean. And then last one, go pal. Great AI movie, 1970 Colossus,

Forbun Project. Pretty crazy. It is in New York. Okay. Draw it. Thank you. 82, guys. Wait, no.

Come on. Come on. 82. No. Thank you guys. Oh, my God. Okay. It gets one.

We have to plug. No, Roker gets one. Go ahead. Nobody help. Okay, here's the plug. The Swaggy Blurred. on all platforms. I put my good, uh, good luck have fun don't die, uh, reaction out. So you can check that out. Um, I actually have an old Valentine's Day sketch that I'm going to be re-releasing tomorrow.

So I'm excited about that too. Uh, but spill the tequila with Roka on Tuesdays. Please do while I'm doing this, go do that so I can make fun of him on Tuesday for he how we came that short. He was this close. Um, blurt's in the hood. We are, uh, Wednesdays at 6 p.m. Pacific, Mondays and Fridays we have our pre-tape of like watching videos and doing reactions and stuff like that. this Sunday. We actually have a marathon stream. I'm super excited 10 a.m. to 10 p.m. We are going in. It's going to absolutely insane reactions, jokes, playing games, all that stuff. You don't want to miss it. And then finally, if you were a member here with Christian, we're finishing up Demon Slayer. So come and watch all of that as well.

And otherwise, I'll see you here next Friday, y'all. Come on. We're so cold. Oh, chat. You're doing so great. Hi. So if you want to give up with me, you can go check out two filthy cashables. We dropped an episode today wherever you get your podcast, whether you're listening, or you want to check us out on YouTube. We have such a fun one today. We let Amy loose. She is talking about the now gone the way of the dodo dino land from Animal Kingdom. It's such a fun episode.

We're very, very unhinged. I realize why I'm claustrophobic. It's a fun app. If you want to learn about voice acting, check out speakfriendstudio.com. That's where me and my husband, Logan, teach people about voice acting, dial it, coaching, all kinds of good stuff like that. And if you want to keep up with me, at it's Chris Carr on Instagram. We got G-Man as someone else.

says go pal. Maddie B with some support. Sergio was some support. Rokin' out winning says Connor. Apologies for taking his credit, says go pal. Mr. N.D. Fanatic, 13th floor's underrated movie about its simulations. BK. Arbol. Team Winston and Chris. Let's go. Conor-Malls. Oh boy. Armada, A.YT. Sean Moroni is now Roka's Bestman moment. Preeti B.K. Chris hating AI is like

people back in the day hating CGI. My dad had hated email. He loved normal mail. That's not. Oh my God. Put out every bottle of water. Look up what's happening to people who live near all these data centers. You're a delight.

I think it's generations that is very different. But Prady, BK, we should stop using AI because it wastes water. Then we should stop using YouTube too because YouTube servers serves up a lot of water as well. Not to the same level. That's at the same extent. You're right, though. You're right, but not to the same extent. 98.

Enjoy your caricature. That makes me laugh. 98. So, guys, they did it. Thank you for being here. Roka almost had it. But they just, you guys just won't let poor Roka win, no matter what. You just never let him win.

The guy can have 375 and someone will get 376. No one ever lets him do it. do it. Greenie from us, top 3, 13. We did that already. I guess Freddie versus Jason number four and the number one. They wouldn't have. So look, you're at 99.

You might as well get one more to get to 100 so that way we can say 100 when we do the group text. Guys got to throw in one more. There's one more. Yeah, I'll throw in. Do one of you want to be mad at me again about my stance on AI? Go for it. Yeah, do it. I welcome your debate.

Welcome the debate. them the debate. So there you go. Also on top of the fact that like, I'll give you some more ammunition, Chris, for people that are like, oh, I use AI for like information, the number of videos that people have proven multiple times that AI will just lie to you. So it would rather placate you than to like get the correct information. Yep. There's a lot wrong with it. Oh, that's a pretty good, look at that one. On your left. That's a big one for 100. And then Michael D thrown one and two, Greenie from Oz. So 102 now. Now you guys have almost beat him by, You almost been in my 20 now.

J.C. support. I guess it's 103 right now. Pretty nuts. So they, you know, so they really did it within the time frame. I love it. Yeah, you did. I mean, yeah. You did.

103. And Chris, don't think, I don't think you being, I don't know you're not being sneaky. Chris's been in the damn chat telling people we're almost there. I saw you the whole time, you'll sneak. But it's definitely, you didn't break any rules. Christian, I got a question. Where do we go get a new capes and cows intro with Chris as a character, man?

We talk to, look, do you know how long it took poor, um, uh, wicked art to do that? You think we didn't do that. Wicked art. We got to make Chris a character. Yeah. Greenie from us. Legends, please, never retire.

We're trying not to. Guys, thank you guys so much. 104. Caps and Cals wins it this week. Thank you guys so much. Look forward to seeing you on Monday when Roka gets 733 and then somebody gets 734. appreciate you guys for being here. Make sure you check out Chris,

check out Winston. Apple podcast, Spotify, Anywhere podcasts or found. Make sure you are checking out. If you didn't already check out to the reaction for me and Sam today on Game of Thrones, make sure you check that out. Somebody just posted this. Hold on.

Let me do this one. Where is it? Looking forward to more Demon Sayer Watchlong. Those are coming out too. Winston and I just did a few more of those. We're going to finish up the entire series. So there you go. Thanks again, everybody.

I appreciate it. And we'll see you guys on the flip side. And make sure you say hello to Ray. Ray Ho. Sorry, it would have been something else. All right, we'll see you next time. Bye.