The Kristian Harloff Show - Spider-Man No Way Home - How well is this movie going to do at the box office?! | The Big Thing

Episode Date: August 27, 2021

Spider-Man No Way home is the most watched trailer of all time. So much hype on it and now everyone is wondering what will happen now?! Who will show up?! What did we think and how much money will thi...s movie make overall in the current conditions? Mark Ellis joins Kristian Harloff as they talk about the trailer and waht they think will happen. We also talk Shang-Chi and the new Gallery episode all about Luke Skywalker. Follow on Twitter Kristian Harloff https://bit.ly/31PePMD Mark Ellis https://bit.ly/2U1wKPa Brett Sheridan https://bit.ly/2HBltii Steph Sabraw https://bit.ly/3m0ud0z Kate Mulligan https://bit.ly/3owBneT Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:01 What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. Well, the big thing today is definitely Spider-Man. No Way Home. That trailer caught fire. I mean, it really did. It was going everywhere millions and millions of views. I mean, if you put up a freaking reaction to that thing,
Starting point is 00:00:16 you get millions and millions of views except me, I've got 20,000. But hey, it's good enough. Either way. It ain't the old days anymore, partner. It ain't the old days are here a little bit because Mark Ellis is joining me. And that's right. And we are going to be talking about not only what we thought of the trailer, but what is this movie going to do box office wise it's a different time you know with streaming and all that
Starting point is 00:00:37 but is it going to be a big massive blockbuster $300 million opening what's it going to be we're going to talk about in just a moment on the big thing here we go I'm ready for it you ready for it well we'll figure it out in a second I mean you got there I got close enough welcome back ladies and gentlemen how's it going to do with the box office with, you know, streets. Mark Solf is Brinkgo. Welcome back.
Starting point is 00:01:05 It is. It's the big thing, everybody. And I got to tell you, first and foremost, thank you to all of our new subscribers over the last couple of days. I know that a lot of people found the show didn't know we were doing a new show, and now you're over and you're joining us,
Starting point is 00:01:19 and I'm happy that you are. Appreciate it. I did a whole thing on my Facebook page and the people came on over. But then those new people, haven't seen me with you in a while, but they haven't. Brand new. You got to stop with these panicky texts you sent me.
Starting point is 00:01:36 What did I said? Because you sent me a text like, I don't know, three, four days ago. Hey, hey, can you do the show this week? Well, you followed it up with like fans think you quit. But that's the truth. That's the truth. They did. At one point, they were like, oh, is that it?
Starting point is 00:01:53 You just, you just roped us in with Ellis. And then he's not going to me. It was like, there was a couple of different things. I'll tell you what people I think you don't like to hear compliments No I don't I know but you're a very responsible human being you are You bet you are you are
Starting point is 00:02:07 You look disheveled but you're not You I mean you called me up And you said something you just hey there's some you know I just I've been traveling I did this Been working Yeah you've been working I'm doing some stuff and he knows that you know I have kids around and
Starting point is 00:02:20 I just play it safe When he tested he gets tested And here we go we're doing Oh yeah yeah yeah totally healthy Yeah you know people you're in close contact with people So you try to go through the protocols. And I go to Vegas in a couple weeks. And there I have to not only show proof of
Starting point is 00:02:35 full vaccination, but I also have to, and this is just for the comics, I believe, but I also have to show a negative COVID test within 48 hours of arriving to, what once you're in Vegas? They're like, you made it here. Good luck to you. Best of luck. This is not the worst thing that's going to happen to you. Probably not. Yeah, probably not. Got a lot of people coming there. It's a lot. Yeah. And this week with CinemaCon, word on the street is that, uh, the Ghostbusters is pretty good people talking about that saying Ghostbusters is going to be a great a great movie i'm very excited about ghostbusters afterlife i like the connective tissue right man what else are we looking at what else is what is what's like a big movie that everybody's buzzing about it's that they's matrix they showed a trailer i think they
Starting point is 00:03:15 showed a show i didn't i mean they haven't released it there's a batman i think they showed some stuff yeah there's a lot of different things got got one of that mission impossibles in the can that we're selling yeah but i don't know i think that universal had a big thing because they were talking about um uh You know, Jurassic, what the hell is it called this one? Jurassic. Well, it's Jurassic World. Three, two, three, three. Yeah, Jurassic World, no way home, I believe.
Starting point is 00:03:37 No. But they did, no, that's the movie we're going to talk about now. But no way home for Spider-Man, I think that they showed stuff, and then they actually released it to the public, because I wonder when they were going to release it, though. Yeah, so the thing leaked from CinemaCon, and then they're like, well.
Starting point is 00:03:53 You can leave from Cinemicon. Oh, okay. I don't think so. I have no idea. I don't watch some disgruntled editor or something. I don't watch the leaked stuff. And it's not because I'm not interested in. It's just because I, the first time I see, you know how I feel about trailers.
Starting point is 00:04:06 I effing love them. They're not ads, as far as I'm concerned. They're tiny pieces of art. And so I want to see in the best light. I don't want to see like the grainy footage. Like back in the old days when it's like a shaky camcorder, taping the Phantom Menace trailer. This is what this was apparently. I didn't watch it either.
Starting point is 00:04:20 But it was like a guy's cell phone like all the way back. But it was like some editor or something. It was really. And people watched it. Well, it used to be an editor. But they got rid. That's right. Plus, who knows, maybe he was slick enough that they didn't figure it out.
Starting point is 00:04:32 But either way, they leaked it out. And I think that that's probably where they just released the fucking... Because they said something I never really believed anyway about that trailer, or about the movie, is that they weren't going to release any trailer for it. They were just going to be like, no, it's coming out in theaters. I think Fagie had some sort of comment. Maybe the internet took it and ran the wrong way with it, which happens occasionally. But the fact that the movie comes out December, what, 17th, I think?
Starting point is 00:04:56 And you combine that with the fact that it was, already leaked, so a lot of people got a chance to maybe check it out. Right. But then you have the official trailer come out. 355 million. Crushed. YouTube views. Crushed. Is humbling for two folks that have been on YouTube for a while. And it also is beyond shattering a record.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And we live in a day in an age where it feels like every big movie that comes out, like Mortal Kombat had the record for a minute on YouTube views. And so we don't really know what the metric is. We're still in the infancy comparatively of having a trailer. debut on YouTube. And so you're going to continue to see records break. But man, that's a big, big number. Because it was Endgame was the previous one, I think.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I think it was Mortal Kombat. Mortal Kombat beat Endgame? Maybe Mortal Kombat was it like an R-rated trailer, but Mortal Kombat trailer set some sort of record. Yeah, it didn't really do much for the movie. But it probably did, though. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:05:50 You know, just because the movie wasn't beloved, maybe it did better, maybe it did better for them than it would. I think a lot more people clicked on that movie or went to go see it because of the trailer. And I think the same thing with Spider-Man. I mean, the trailer has to deliver. And the Mortal Kombat trailer did. But this one, the Spider-Man won.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Yeah. Buzz also, though. I mean... You generate a lot of buzz. Yeah. You involve other characters in the MCU. Because we got, so far, MCU fans, if you're talking about, like, getting back into the theater,
Starting point is 00:06:17 getting excited about this stuff, you get your Black Widow, which is pretty much a standalone movie. You get some other shades of the MCU in there, which is awesome. But it was... And it was a really good standalone movie. And then you get... Shang Chi, which is a great movie. Yeah, so you saw it as well.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah, it is. Oh, my good martial arts film. Great martial arts film. Let's go back to it, because I talked about it with Koi for a bit. Yeah. About Shangx. Well, he's much more of an MCU. No, but you and I have seen a lot of movies together.
Starting point is 00:06:45 So, like, there was a thing that they compared it to the raid that I had, I had an issue with. But I didn't see it yet, so I don't know. But I. Then why you have an issue with it? Oh, I know why. I'll tell you why. Because it's PG-13. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I just wonder if Alonzo Duralde would react the same way to this that he didn't. Alonzo Duralde. We have a great story. I want to keep you on track, though, with the Spider-Man stuff. I head's going everywhere, but you're back to, but the fact that they did this with Shanchi and everything, the way. Pretty much a standalone, M-CU. You do get shades of stuff in there, but it's more of a standalone establishing story, and it's a great movie. But then you have Spider-Man, and people already know Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And then you have Dr. Strange pop in. And then you have Doc Ock at the end. And it's like this is not just involving more primary characters in the MCU. This is going all the way back. And this is involving anybody that's ever appeared in a Spider-Man ever. So it's a lot. No, but it's also into the Spider-Verse did this. Right?
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yes. Very well. Very well. And then the introduction of the multiverse and the fact of, in local, they explore a lot of this stuff, right? So that's in there too. So it's not going to be far into those people who have seen the Loki series. They're going to have to explain it to people who are just watching the movies and not watching TV, right?
Starting point is 00:08:10 Like how they're going to do this and how they're going to do it with Dr. Strange. But they do all this in the way that they set it up. And people are like, oh, my God, how do they not, I can't believe they didn't show Toby McGuire. I can't believe they didn't show Andrew Garfield. They showed the goblins. First of all, you don't know if it's going to be willing to foreordained to a hundred. So don't be, so don't be, you know, you did hear his laugh. He does, you do hear the, oh, is that the laugh here?
Starting point is 00:08:34 I just, I just assumed it sounds like the wool. That assumed it was Doc. I didn't, yeah. Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Yeah. And so. I woke up, I watched the trailer. I made myself a shake.
Starting point is 00:08:42 I didn't go back in like, I watched it like, I watched it like three times. Deep dive it. I watched, well, yeah, three times because I watched it twice and I actually did it. It was the first like trailer reaction I've done. And so I did the Masters of Universe one, but that was, that was it. How was your trailer reacting skills? Is the rust off? I don't.
Starting point is 00:08:57 do, but I, then I, somebody actually gave me credit for it. I don't do the whole. Ha! Yeah. I, I don't do it all of it. I, I saw the thumbnail. Well, I was, I was like this. I saw the thumbnail. I was excited to see it.
Starting point is 00:09:10 It was a classic. But I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, you just go arms by the side. Yeah, I'm not saying that people who do that, they do it, that that's their natural reaction. Okay. He just went up to parallel, folks. He didn't go, he didn't go, he didn't go all the way up here. I just watch, and I watch it the way and I react to it as if nobody's watching me.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And when, and there was one, there was, but there was one point. We used to dance like that. And now we're trailer reaction. But I did, but there was one part where they're, like, everybody, he's walking through the hallways and they're taking pictures of him and they're being dicks to him. Everybody's a dick to Spider-Man. They're old scumbags. It's like, there's nobody, like out of, like, come on, it's Spider-Man. Look at all the stuff that he's done.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Yeah, he fucked up and he killed that one dude. He didn't do it on purpose. And then nobody's, like, look at this shit that happens on Twitter. There's always side A and side B. There's never just a side A. And it looks like it's all side A. True, but I mean, think about a guy like Rudy Giuliani, right? Who.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Who after everything that happened in New York in 2001, where he got a lot of credit. And then afterwards, we're going with this. Now, 10, 15 years later, he walks through the halls in high school. He's probably getting a lot of people with cell phone. But there's still a side B. There's still going to be some people. There's still a side B is what I'm saying. There's still going to be a side B.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I think there will be. He got a bad rap. I was like, no, he didn't. Clean your face. I saw him at an airport one time. Oh, my God. So. You don't have any more thief.
Starting point is 00:10:33 My issue with the trail, and it's a, it's a wonderful trailer. I'm very excited to see the movie. But it looks like work. What do you mean? Oh, because you got to think too much? I like, see, you know me, though, with multiverse and parallel universes. I know, but it's like, it's so much. It's tailored for me.
Starting point is 00:10:49 I, this is, and I think, and I was thinking about this on the drive over here is that I think the reason why I prefer an origin story. Like I love a Batman begins so much is because all we have to do is establish the hero. Give me the journey. Give me a baddie to fight. Hopefully we
Starting point is 00:11:07 we win. And hopefully, then we tease the next. But you've seen enough of those? I'm not saying I want yet another Spider-Man origin story, but I'm also saying- I'm saying origin stories in general. I'm saying that do we have to go into the multi? Like, we just did this.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Well, we're not. With an animated movie and it was great. We're three into it. Well, because remember what the damn Dr. Strange movie is called. Yes. Whatever. We're doing this and it just feels like it's a bigger ask on the brain of the audience than phase one was. It's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:11:39 There were some parts of it that looked like inception when the buildings were kind of maneuvering in. Even inception, though, from the trailer, I knew what the gag was. It was very high concept. It's like, oh, cool, we're breaking into dreams. Yeah, you don't really have a clear cut. I have no idea. Which is exciting to a point, but also I feel like the kid who, when I was a sophomore in high school, was starting French three. And I don't know about you, I didn't dust up my French over the summer.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So I feel completely lost when they start speaking a different language. But I don't think you're going to be as lost as you think. No, they'll hold my head. They're going to hold your hand through it. And I think that that's exactly right. But where people were talking about, oh, I can't believe that didn't show Toby McGuire. I can't believe that in show Andrew Garfield. You saw Molina.
Starting point is 00:12:21 you saw the goblin, whether it is Dane Dahan or Willem Defoe. So you know, you're not going to have those two in there and not have Toby and Andrew Garfin. Right. But I also think that in their ideal world, Disney slash Marble would not have wanted all of that cameo news to get out. They know people were going to go see this movie regardless. They know that Doc Ock would probably have brought a lot of speculations to who else we might see. But in their ideal world, the news that there's going to be other spider people in this would have never got out. No, and that's the thing is I think that by them, and this ties into something else I'm going to talk to you about today is that I got out, I don't know if it's out now, but I've seen the episode of the, have you watched any of the gallery series on Disney Plus?
Starting point is 00:13:04 I'm not sure what that is, but it sounds still. The gallery series is basically the making of the Mandalorian, right? And they did, and John Favreau and all the directors and Farroni. They did it for season one. They only had one episode for season two, but they didn't cover any of the Luke stuff, right? So this episode is all about how they did the Luke stuff. Oh, cool. So, but anyway, jumping into that, what you just said is how you don't want it to leap because it ruins it for people is that they had to do so many.
Starting point is 00:13:35 They had it as plow coon for, and written in the script that it was Plow Coon that came back. Everybody on set was Plow Coon. There was only like a handful of people that knew, because Mark Hamill is, he was there. He was in the, in the, in the, the. The Jedi Role. Yeah, man. He's, he's, he's there the whole time. He's, and he, it's not like he just did his voice.
Starting point is 00:13:56 It wasn't even his voice. It was like computer modularized voice and all that. But he's there. And he's doing all the motions, not the sort, not the, the fighting and all that stuff. But he walks over and he's teaching the younger guy who is also playing his body double because, you know, and he's teaching in the movements of Lou Skywalker. And it's, it's, it's all about, it's all about Skywalker. I will eat that.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I will swerp that up. But they kept it quiet. And Peyton Reed was. talking about how they were like so nervous that any day now they would check this stuff like every single day they would check is there a leak is there a leak is there a leak and in nothing and into the day of of the episode they're like how much this air the thing right three can keep a secret if two or dead because that's and going back to what used to there's no way that um you're going to put a that you're going to put any of those guys in the in the trailer why would you
Starting point is 00:14:44 you want to get that pop in the in the crowd when it happens and the same thing with quigon jinn in Obi-One, I bet the farm that that dude's going to show up. Why would you, you don't need to announce it? William Neeson makes 38 action movies, most of them taking place in icy climates. Yes, right. And they're all going to Red Box. Right. You're telling me the guy I can't spare a couple days in his schedule to be a Jedi.
Starting point is 00:15:04 He said nobody's asked them. Bullshit. Jedi's literally invented zooming. Right. So he can literally do it from wherever he is. He could. But there's no chance. They don't ask that guy to do it.
Starting point is 00:15:15 There's no chance. The whole point in episode three that he, that he, sends Obi-Wi-Wan to Tatooine in the first place. He's like, because I want you to go communicate with Quigon. I think the way that they did in the Spider-Man show, regardless of all the other like hubbub and news we have, because I don't even know if Disney's officially confirmed that the other Spider-people are in it,
Starting point is 00:15:33 but it sort of leaked out. And I think that they, you know, whatever they say or don't say about it is fine. They're doing the best they can. But if you're just judging this trailer, as far as like a good tease, man did it deliver by seeing Doc Ock. I mean, that is more than enough to make.
Starting point is 00:15:49 everybody to make neophytes just be like, oh, I remember that that's a great villain. Even if they don't, even they've never seen Spider-Man too, but it makes dorks like us be like, what is happening? And what else could happen? Who else could show up?
Starting point is 00:16:01 So for every like sort of synapse that my brain is forced to fire to think about what the hell this multiverse is to understand it, I'm willing to make that sacrifice. Because they gave you a cool prize. Because they gave me, because there's,
Starting point is 00:16:14 if you have fun, it is coming out of the multiverse, which I assume we will, then end, danger and all that other cool adventure stuff, then great. It's a lot. Every time they surprise me, though, because I probably said the same thing about the Infinity War and how are we all going to come back, how's it all going to piece.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And they just, they know how to do it. It's like when your Ma says, hey, I'm making a new recipe tonight. You're like, Ma, I thought it's fajita night. You're great of making fajitas. Why are we? Yeah, but she's going to give you something. What she's going to do? Mess up?
Starting point is 00:16:40 No. But either way, that was, it delivered on every aspect. And like you said, boom, with the amount of views that this thing did, it just took off and whether or not that's just because, you know, people aren't just going to see them in the theater and there's more shareable ways to watch trailers and all that. But this is a movie. I think because...
Starting point is 00:17:00 Are we going on Disney Plus simultaneously with this? Do we know? Well, first of all, no, because of Sony. Right. Sony still has a deal. But secondly, they didn't do that with Shang Chi because they wanted to make sure because that was, I was getting the links because I'm just not ready to go to the theater. yet, right? But Disney contacts, like, yeah, we're not doing this one.
Starting point is 00:17:22 It's just the, either you can come to the premiere or we got the screening, and I was like, it's not ready yet. But that one I'm looking forward to it. Let me ask you about this rate thing. Don't put your phone away. My phone's not. No, I'm talking about it. When you see the, when you're watching Chong Q, I know you're not a terrible offender. I never want. No, no, but I mean, here, you're here, your home. Like you might, yeah, you might just be like, yeah, you might just be like, let me see what's going on with the Giants or whatever. Just watch. Turned to airplane mode it for two hours.
Starting point is 00:17:51 You're welcome. I'm more so. How about the Yankees right now? God, they're on fire right now. They've won like 11 in a row. Hey. Oh, 11, 11. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 00:18:00 But speaking of streaks, we snapped our 19 game losing streak. Well done. I know. I'm very proud of you. We were threatening the 21 game record that we said in 87. Not this time. But the problem is that the raise are also winning. We are so bad.
Starting point is 00:18:15 You guys are pretty bad. But the race is. Holy crap. But I've been watching. watching that with my daughter, but I was going to go to Shang Chi, but now that I won't, I'll go back to Spider-Man because you'll actually be happy about this. The other day, my wife and I, otherwise my daughter's getting older, she's almost 10. You know, we're trying to transition her into some other movies that she thinks should be.
Starting point is 00:18:36 We've never given, we've never let her watch any of the MCU stuff yet because we tried to watch Ironman with her last year. And at the beginning of that movie, it's like for a nine-year-old, there's like a lot of, like, guns and all this stuff too. And she's, she's, she was, you're in an actual war zone. She's just like, I don't know if I really like this guys. And we're like, all right, we turned it off, right? Yeah. But Spider-Man, we're like, what about Spider-Man? So I take Spider-Man, what's it for homecoming?
Starting point is 00:19:01 Because my wife and I are actually also at that part in our MCU rewatch. She's, your wife's enjoying the movies. Yeah, she's always, she's always like the movie. We're doing a re-watch leading up to the other stuff that's going to be coming out that will eventually, you know, we're never going to run out of shit because it's new stuff that's coming out. Right. And now, it used to be I saw stuff. and then second watch or third watch with her.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Now it's first watch. I still haven't seen Black Widow waiting for that to come out on. Is it? Not on the plus? I'm not, not for $30. I'm not buying it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Wow. I really want to see it, but why am I going to pay the $30? It's going to be, if I'm a subscriber on Disney Plus, I should get it. If I'm not a subscriber on Disney Plus and I want to go buy it on Amazon, then I get the $30.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I'm a subscriber on Disney Plus. Why are you charging me an extra $30? Stupid. Because it's a big movie. It's in theaters right now. So what? You're paying for it. your whole family to watch it. Yeah, it's fine. You, the wife, and the dog. I go back and forth on it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Sometimes I agree with you and sometimes I do. By the way, you know what this ratfink did to me, folks? Oh, he knows how excited I'm to meet the dog. He knows that's the reason I did. I did not do this to you. My wife did. I did. I did over here. Oh, where's it over is like, oh yeah, the dog's out with my. I'm like, what? Sorry. Well, what do we do? Ken got to see him. He slept here for an hour and a half. Ken did. Ken is so sweet. Me and the dog had an hour and a half conference. Everyone thought that was Ken. It was the dog.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Kenny, we got to go for a walk. It was it. Scratch him behind the ears. She starts moving his foot. Oh, I'm so excited to me. But Spider-Man. So you put on homecoming for your daughter. That was the plan.
Starting point is 00:20:34 That was the plan. But she said, I don't want to watch that one. I want to watch someone. She goes, because she looks at the cover and she goes, that's Iron Man. Yes. Her line of thinking is correct. She goes, that's Iron Man. She's like, I don't know. She's like, but he's already with Iron Man, he's already Spider-Man?
Starting point is 00:20:50 She's like, I want to see how he becomes Spider-Man. Bingo. Because she's 10. You and I have seen 70,000 versions of Spider-Man becoming Spider-Man. She's seen none. You put on that first Ramey one for her? So I said to her, which one do you want to watch it? She picked the Ramey one.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Good for her. And we're still haven't finished yet because she's got, it's, you know, school nights and we can't watch the whole thing. but we're close. I really enjoy that movie thoroughly. I have to tell you. Yeah. I always said when I go to the Raming movies,
Starting point is 00:21:20 and I'll probably say the same thing for the second one, and I stick by it. They are cheesy as hell. Sure. I mean, Willem Defoe, who I love, is so over the top. He's, oh, Spider-Man. And he's in his head, he's like,
Starting point is 00:21:37 you know what you have to do, right? And it's like, he's so... Have you ever been possessed by a goblin? No. No, you haven't. But like the ha ha ha ha ha. And the way it's shot sometimes. And like when he's the old late,
Starting point is 00:21:48 when he's pretending he's the lady and he's got the, and the, the common costume's a little goofy, right? But. Yeah. Again, we were in this sort of the dark ages of making comic book movies where we're like,
Starting point is 00:21:59 hey, are people going to buy this? It's 2002. It's a fun movie. I really enjoy watching it. I mean, even parts that I said like, well,
Starting point is 00:22:06 that's goofy. Like my wife laughed out loud like four or five times as we're watching it. But we both. are enjoying the hell out of it. And I still love that scene where he's discovering his powers and he beats up Joe Mangonello. And it's like, flash,
Starting point is 00:22:19 yeah. It's just so, it's still so much fun to go back and revisit those parts. It's so funny because we started watching it before the trailer even dropped or when we knew it was going to drop it. And we started watching it. And automatically, after seeing Molina pop up at the end,
Starting point is 00:22:35 I start thinking about when Toby McGuire's going to show up. And you're going to get, if they are, of all three of them are in the movie, you're going to get a, a scene where Peter Parker, the MCU's Peter Parker's going to be using the things that he built. Garth will be using the ones he built. And Toby McGuire is a mutant.
Starting point is 00:22:53 So they've got to stick with that, I would assume. Yes, but I also wonder how heavily involved these spider people are going to be in. How much, you mean, you're thinking maybe just like a little cameo? Are they showing up like Bill Murray in the 2016 Ghostbusters or are. Are they showing up to do some battle? Because... I think they helped the same way that they did in Spider-Verge. We would all...
Starting point is 00:23:16 We'd all love to see that. But again, I don't know what their appetite for it is. I know paychecks are always nice. And a lot of this stuff can be done sort of like cheated with CGI. And so it would be cool to have that like spider people associate. They're going to do that thing where, you know, there's that classic... Assemble. There's that classic meme of the two Spider-Man's looking at each other.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Yeah. You know, like, and they're going to do, guarantee you. They do either. Oh, yeah, that's funny. They guarantee you the way, the same way that they did with an X-Men when they did the juggernaut bitch. Yeah. They're going to do something like that.
Starting point is 00:23:50 They're going to have the two looking at each other or three of them looking at each other. And it's, but either way. I can't believe I just said, associate instead of assembly. This is why I'd be a horrible captain America. Associates. Avengers associate. That's not the one. That's not the one.
Starting point is 00:24:07 That's not it. Have you watched any of what if, by the way? No. It's good. I mean, people rave about it. It's really good. My appetite is so weird for animation in general, though. I'm just a freak of nature. I know, you've always been that way.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I like, if I'm watching something animated, I guess I'm of the age where my brain is just wired to, I'm waiting for somebody to slip on a banana peel. Oh, because you're the looting tune stuff? I'm here for the last, folks. Well, it's really good. I really like it a lot. What's the coolest storyline you've seen?
Starting point is 00:24:38 So all three of them are out so I can talk about. about it now. I would, you know, Tachala being picked up by Yandu instead of Peter Quill is pretty, it's pretty awesome. Oh, that sounds fun. It's pretty awesome because they don't, it's not like, well, he's Star Lord, he calls himself Star Lord, but he's not cracking jokes and trying to be funny. And Yandu doesn't like talk to him like, you know, he's talking down to him the way he talks
Starting point is 00:25:04 to Star Lord. He's got that respect that Tachala had. Yeah. The king. And he's, but he carries into the overall universe. And then there's, it's a spoiler for people. So if you haven't watched, what if yet, you should come back in like five, ten minutes. Thanos is in it.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And Thanos is a good guy. And Thanos is a part of his crew. And Thanos keeps saying his idea of what he ultimately wants to do. And I go, dude, that sounds like genocide. And he's like, that's not genocide. It's like, you're talking about the whole, everything that he would, want to do with the with the glove and all that he's like wow he's just like hypothetical how are you a good guy and you're like hey i kind of want to eliminate half the people on he's just i'm just i'm just saying
Starting point is 00:25:49 i'm just saying they're like do that and it's uh so all that is pretty damn good but then the third one third one is what if the avengers started to get picked off before they could form the avengers and that's that scene with again spoiler if you haven't seen it with tony stark in iron man two when he's there at the diner with Scarlett Johansson and Nick Fury. And I like how I chose one as a character and one's an actor. But anyway, and he winds up getting killed at the diner. And he's dead. Who caps him?
Starting point is 00:26:22 Well, that's that I don't want to give up. I don't want to give that up. You told people twice to not what. But that's okay. The Thanos one is, you know, it's the- Was it the punisher? I'm not telling you anything. It was the punisher, folks.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Confirmed here first. So those are the three that I've seen. seen and I thought they were pretty damn creative. A lot of the original voices, and you got Jeffrey Wright, who is the watcher and kind of going over the series. Oh, that's cool. It's pretty great. Yeah, he's got a good voice for that.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Here's my reaction to your what if. Yeah. It's good. It's good. I like who you did there. I'm probably going to use that for the screenshot. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Remember us taking all those pictures? Like taking pictures of each other against the wall just so we could Photoshop. We get some kind of Photoshop. Oh, we were so young. Yes. And stupid. Full of dreams. Before I do, and Mark and I, as you've seen in the,
Starting point is 00:27:08 in the title here, what we used to do and what we're going to do today is because of all the hype with Spider-Man and how much that trailer is done and how much the hype on that movie in general, we're going to get into a little prediction game of what we think it's going to make opening weekend, what we think we're going to make overall.
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Starting point is 00:31:28 You can't wrap me out on this. You know what I did? I told you this already. We're already, we're rolling, so people are going to talk. So the Tony Soprano picture of the horse that I told you I was going to get? Oh, yeah, yeah. I bought it. Good man.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Not only did I buy it. I bought the most expensive one. And I bought the one that Tony Soprano would be have in his office. There's like the little poster one. I'm like, nah, I'm going to hang out. I'm going to move the floor and flouse. I'm going to put it. He's getting bummed.
Starting point is 00:31:59 He's getting bummed for Tony. Tony and the horse are batting cleanup. Yeah. And you went expensive. So there's, I mean, you know, expensive. You learned your lesson from the predator costume. I bought myself a, I'll be paying this thing off for a little bit. But I, but I bought myself a gift for my birthday that no one else would buy me.
Starting point is 00:32:14 So I bought it. And I'm excited that I did. And I did, there's two versions of this thing that I wasn't, I didn't know which way I was going to go. And again, it's Tony Soprano. Yeah, so season four. In bed with the horse? No, no, no, no. It's Godfather stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:26 What are you talking about? Season four of the Sopranos. So he's sleeping with a horse. He is banging the horses. That's what I got. I got the one with him. He's horse styling the horse. This is,
Starting point is 00:32:36 where are we going with us? We can't get him on racketeering, but we can get him on bestiality. That's how they ultimately got him. That's how it ended. It went to black and then the feds threw him in the can for the... Trust me, folks. You didn't want to see the rest of that episode.
Starting point is 00:32:50 The horse walks in. Like, you have a family? Yeah, they let the horse go after him. There's own revenge. He's like, now I'm getting behind you, Tony. All right. Anyway. So in season four, there's a horse named Paiomai that, because as you've seen, even for the few seasons that you've seen thus far, right?
Starting point is 00:33:11 He loves animals. He loves animals. Loves animals. More so than people. Well, he kills less, yeah. Yeah, but he loves animals. And he just loves this horse. And so, again, no one's going to spoil this for you now.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Well, I guess I don't even have to spoil it for you. Because that's not relevant to why I got this. stupid picture. But he, so he loves this horse so much that this, one of, the girl that,
Starting point is 00:33:36 that, Joey Pantilony, Joey Pants, Ralphie Ciforetto, is, is bringing to the stable, she winds up also having a thing with Tony, right?
Starting point is 00:33:46 She introduces him to this guy, this artist, and Tony gets the guy to paint a picture of him and Pio Mai together, and he's in this suit, and he's standing next to him, and he's got a glass of champagne or something,
Starting point is 00:33:58 he's standing next to him. So I, I contemplated getting that one. But there's another version because, so I guess I do have to spoil it, the horse winds up burning in a fire. Right. Okay. And so all this stuff goes down. Tony sees the picture after the horse has been killed.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It comes to him. And he goes, get it out of here. Get it. And he throws it has them throw it out. The two of the goons are ready to are burning it. And Pauly Walnuts comes over. He goes, what are you doing? He said, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:34:28 He says, what are you doing? He says, this is a piece of art. What are you doing? And they go, Tony said Bernie's like, no, so he hangs it up in his house, right? Pauley Walnuts does. And he looks over to it and he feels like Tony's staring at him. So he goes to have a guy work on it and he paints Tony like the Napoleon. And he's got the hat on and the whole thing, that's the one I got.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I got him as Napoleon with the horse. That's perfect. I'm just, you happy makes me happy. I'm so excited. I have no idea. I don't know what I'm more excited for. The trailer that I saw for, Spider-Man or the Tony Soprano.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Well, let me ask you this quick question. This is the upcoming episode of Verses that I haven't written yet. Sopranos. We did Sopranos versus Breaking Bad before. Yeah. Yeah. This one is Sopranos versus the Godfather movies. That's tough. Woo.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You know, see, that's harder to do. It's a no-win situation for me. No, it's not, but that's a harder one to do because I think the argument could be anytime you put TV against movies, TV should. Good. TV. Good TV. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Anytime you put good TV against movies, good TV should always win. Because you just, because you have more investment with the characters overall, Breaking Bad versus Sopranos would be much harder for me because... I don't even remember which way I went on that one.
Starting point is 00:35:47 That's one where I could wake up on a day and feel differently than I did yesterday. Same. Well, you haven't finished Sopranos, so you don't know yet. No. I'm getting there. Because it's funny,
Starting point is 00:35:57 if you would have asked me three months ago, I would have told you, Hands down Breaking Bad. Because I think Breaking Bad had just a consistent overall series that just annihilated. But I also realized that you and I started watching that to review it in like the last season. Like when we started watching because I, we, there were, four seasons were already out and I had never watched any of them. Yeah, we blew through all those seasons. Through all of them.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And so I didn't do that with Sopranos. I watched Sopranos every season as I came out. And I had to wait two years. And I was like, oh, what happened there? this. I'm watching it with different eyes right now. Yeah. Because I went, I liked season four way better this time than I liked it last time. And I'm liking season five way better than I did last time. So I don't know. And now that I've done like a lot of the research on what people think could happen and that really happened in the season finale, I would watch that with different eyes. So
Starting point is 00:36:51 I don't know what I would pick nowadays. Yeah. It's a tough one. I mean, you do have to give a lot of points of the Godfather for without the Godfather. Two movies. It's about six hours. And the popularity of it, though. Totally. You don't get Goodfellas in the same way. You don't get the Sopranos in the same way.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Somebody would have done some cool mob thing, but like. Oh, it's literally the Godfather. It's the Godfather. Yeah. And it's, and it is, it's fantastic. One and two and two is probably one of the greatest movies of all time. But third one's not that great. But if you look, if you compare it against television series, you're looking at nine hours
Starting point is 00:37:25 of movies, right, close to it. about nine hours of movies, that's nine episodes of Sopranos. You know, I mean, there's so many, there's so much more detail on the Sopranos that if you're looking at accomplishment and all that,
Starting point is 00:37:39 I don't know what the criteria is, as far as what you guys are looking for, but as far as overall, like who you're more invested in overall. Yeah. I'm more invested in Tony than I am, Vito, the whole way through,
Starting point is 00:37:49 Michael for the whole way through, because I know Michael's got, I have a set amount of time with Michael. But I, Tony, I got a long, I got a pretty big relationship with Tony for a long time. Slightly different conversation, but staying with the same country. I went to Italy for the very first time. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Yeah, it's really good. I got these meatballs that were just, oh, delicious. Oh, geez. Just like a slob. You know what we got to do, speak into New York, which we're going to speak about in a second here. Because we're going to, Ken Napsock was on the show on Wednesday. Did that feel like I was in trouble? It felt like I was in trouble.
Starting point is 00:38:21 No. You're not going to trouble. We're going to speak about New York and second in New York. But New York, Ken, Knox Knoxack was in New York. Napsok announced he's going to be on the show with us. Yeah, so he thinks. No, you just, you're just flying him out there. I'm not even flying him. Oh, he's just going to drive.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I just told him out of Shoked L.A.X. And the car will be waiting. He'll take the horse. Poor Bastra has no idea. Yeah, he'd take the horse. Yeah, ride the painting of a horse. You should just carry the painting and hopefully someone, you know, we'll say, that's a great picture, man.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I'll give you a ride where you want to go. Oregon. I'll tell him our boy, Tom Conno, who has to trail of breadcrums, just how to get to the East Coast. That's what he's got to do. But you speak of Italy. We should go to Little Italy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And that's still to this day. I hope my mom's not listening. That's where you like fatten it up? The meatballs that I had. I took my, she was my girlfriend at the time, which she's now my wife. But I took her to Little Italy and we had meatballs down there and just it was out of control. That place that never off turned us on to the meatball shop that's in a couple different spaces in New York. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Oh, man, those meatballs. That's a high bar to set. Speaking of a high bar of set, here it is. That trailer and those views, is it going to hold up in the box office? Is it going to turn views into dollars? Is it?
Starting point is 00:39:30 I mean, because you look at, look at some, it's been such a weird time right now with how Black Widow did what, okay, right? Did well, all things told did well.
Starting point is 00:39:39 It did okay. Yeah. And, I mean, Fast and Furious, I think did okay, but I was still, depending on when it hit,
Starting point is 00:39:46 I mean, it was before the variant hit. Yeah, Godzilla versus Kong did better than I think people. expected and it was before the variant. Yeah. So we're trying to prognosticate not just how the movie's going to do in December, but also what if COVID-22 is going to hit? Right.
Starting point is 00:40:03 If COVID-28 is going to hit by December, is there going to be a variant scare? Is every going to be more relaxed? Right. Because movie theaters, when this thing hit in the first place, movie theaters are like, oh, it's dead. Movie theaters are over. Now they're like, no, we're back. We've got to bailout. We're moving.
Starting point is 00:40:18 The problem is another problem. I wonder because Shangchi comes out this Friday. Labor Day weekend. That's this Friday. Yes. All right. So is it? No, it's...
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yes. Okay. So it comes out... Roadhouse. So next week. Not today. Okay. Not tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Wizard behind the curtain, kids. We're taping this on Thursday. This is going to air. So it doesn't come out tomorrow. When does this show air? Tomorrow. Okay. Friday.
Starting point is 00:40:45 We're at now now now. It's confused everybody. Now now. I was going on the... I thought that this was going to do. drop Monday. This drops. Okay, so it comes out a week from today. Ah, see, I thought it was, I thought it came out this Friday. All right, well, either way. It comes out on, it comes out in a week, but I'm very curious to see how that movie does
Starting point is 00:41:03 in this time right now, right? Because. It's a big weekend. Labor Day weekend is a big weekend historically for, for movie. Yeah, but Captain America, Captain Marvel, Guardians of the Galaxy were movies that were not properties a lot of people knew. They both did like a close to billion. I mean, Marvel did a billion dollars. I don't know if guardians got close, but they did crazy box office.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Black Panther, I put it in that category too. That was a cultural phenomenon as well, which you would think Shang Chi has the chance to be. Yes. But different time, as far as what we're just talking about here, right, with movie theaters and all that. So I'm curious what that movie's going to do. But as far as,
Starting point is 00:41:49 Spider-Man goes, it's unpredictable because where are we going to be as a country, right? Where are we going to be as a world at that time? I think opening weekend for that movie, I'm very curious to what Black Widow did, and I did do the drop on Disney Plus. This will not. I bet you opening weekend, without all this crap going on, that movie does $240 million opening weekend. Okay. But I say 160. Okay. So you say,
Starting point is 00:42:21 blank canvas pandemic never happened. That movie comes out, and it would have done $240 million. Yeah. With this hype behind it, with all the potential Spider-Man that are going to be in and all that. I could have seen it going past that. That's a pretty good number.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I could have seen it at least past, I don't think it would have quite gotten to end game. Right. But I think it could have passed Force Awakens. Yeah. With everything going on, I can't see it going past 200. That's a big number right now.
Starting point is 00:42:50 It's a huge number, but what I say? 160? I stick by it. I'm going to go higher. You know, go higher? Yeah. It's not a crazy thing to do because you're just crossing your fingers that it's going to be different than it is today. I'll tell you this.
Starting point is 00:43:06 If it comes out tomorrow, it makes 115. I think it crosses 100. Yeah. I think Shang Chi's got a chance to cross 100 just because of all the positive. buzz it's receiving. I think worldwide it's going to annihilate. I don't know what the situation in China is right now. As far as the pandemic goes,
Starting point is 00:43:26 but I'm not in epidemiology. What do you think? So let's jump. What do you think Shang-Chi makes this weekend? Domestically? Yeah. I think it'll go, I would give it around 75 to 85.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Yeah. So I'll meet him. I'll say 80. Fine. I was going to say, I'm in the same ballpark. So just to be, I'll say, I'll say 78. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:51 All right. I'll say 78. But if we're not, if we're not in the pandemic and we're not in it, and there's, and everybody's going to the movies where they used to, that movie makes $150 million. If it does $79. I don't know. Because you win anything that is less than 78 and I went anything that's more than 80. So I feel pretty good about my chances.
Starting point is 00:44:10 But either way, we're both in the same mindset of what it would do. you guys out there if you're watching right now, or if you're commenting, if you're listening on on podcasts, head on over to YouTube and drop us. But not before you rate and subscribe and do all that stuff. Absolutely do that. Make sure that you do that.
Starting point is 00:44:28 But when you are commenting on YouTube, give us your predictions. Give us two predictions. What do you think Shang Chi is going to make when it comes out, opening weekend domestic? And what do you think that Spider-Man will make in December? Will it cross 200?
Starting point is 00:44:44 Will it be, you know, if the world is better, and I would say that it could cross 200, for sure. It just depends. Yeah, I think as of right now, I think $1.60 is a pretty good number. Yeah, that's where I'm at. I'll go, given the state of the world right now, I'll go $150. Okay. But we'll revisit it.
Starting point is 00:45:06 We'll revisit it. I'll quit the show a couple more times, and I'll come back and we'll revisit it. That's fair. The special Christmas episode where we reunite. We reunite just to see who was right and who was wrong. But yeah, that's, I think that they're both, they're pretty, we're pretty on, on par with what's, what's going to happen. You know, it's really weird about, about us in our history? Oh.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Never once. How it happened in the first place. Did we go to Las Vegas for CinemaCon? We must have had opportunities. And this is the kind of crap I love. We never looked, we never looked into it, to be honest with you. We never looked into it. We were lazy about it.
Starting point is 00:45:37 We never looked into it. And how, and I think that it was also trying to get, it. We would have gone, we would have had such a great time. It does. Because my buddy's. Pinto Pallia and Ahern, right? The three. I know they're willing to pick up and go to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:45:50 They would have gone immediately if I would have said, hey, we're going to Cinema Con. Fine, this is excuse to go, let's go. I got a bunch of my idiot friends from back home, flying to Vegas in a couple weeks. Yeah, I don't know why we didn't do it. But speaking of which, all three of them just picked up and went to the Hamptons to go.
Starting point is 00:46:09 They send me pictures. It's such a foreign concept to me, what the Hamptons is, how to get there, where it is geographically. It's like Asgard to me. Because I have no concept of how things work there. I don't know if there's a Starbucks, if there's a Chili's. Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:23 You like anything about the Hamptons. It's just so crazy. They have hotels you stay at, or are they like Airbnb? Well, no, my one buddy has had a family house there for years. Oh, my God. These are the kind of people. Listen to the man. Kids out there.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Make friends with the richest person you know. It's never going to end poorly. I said to my buddy who was like, yeah, We stayed at so-and-so's the house that they've had forever. And I go, how long have they had the house? It's like, oh, 25, 30 years. I go, you never went with us? Never took us?
Starting point is 00:46:55 And then I said to myself, because we used to go to my friend Brian's house in the Hamptons. We used to go all the time. How did his house survive? It didn't. It was chaos. We used to take out the jet skis. And there was, I remember swimming from one point. How I don't have damage from the gasoline that was in the,
Starting point is 00:47:15 the water. And I'm sure I did. I remember smelling it. Isn't it the best smell, though? It's like, wait, why did he scream about a theme park? Gasoline. Gasoline from a jet ski. Every time.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I'm like Farley and Tommy boy. If I get a little bit of gas when I'm filling up gas, it's, that's it. That's it. But my, so my wife the other day, we were looking, I don't know, watching Bachelor in Paradise, whatever. You're jet ski. She's like, how can you ever take me on jet ski? I'm like, I tried to throw you in the ocean once.
Starting point is 00:47:44 and it was the worst thing I ever did, right? It sounds like it, yeah. And I just have fun. Was that white squall situation? No, I was like, that thrower. Was it a sleeping with the enemy? It was like a playful, hey, Toshy in the water. Wasn't having it.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Didn't buy it. Didn't buy it. But she's like, she's throwing me in the ocean and going on a jet ski or two different things. I said, that's true. But I said, I'm talking about jet skis and things that we did. You ever been on a standing jet ski? Oh, yeah. Like, that's effort.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Fun effort. But I was like, I'm not taking on a standing jet ski now. would have 20 years ago because like you standing jess keys now i don't care how good you think you are basketball you can stick it you don't you don't stand on jesky now get me out there get me out in the water this one that this guy had it was my buddy joe was the one guy we were taking and and people would get a certain level yeah of where like okay now can you stand past that and joe took it all the way out in the middle of and then the thing just crapped out of gasoline kind of big ass arm right and just swam back with the fucking jet ski and it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Wow. That is a lot of work. Jetskeys are those weird things where it's like if I'm on one, I'm having the time of my life. If I am in the water or around the water, I see other people, but not me, I'm like, a bunch of assholes. Yeah, 100%. Only assholes take jetskies. 100%. All right. Shung-she question for you, the raid thing that I was talking about.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Yeah. So I really want to see the movie. It's one of my most anticipated Marvel movies that I've wanted to see in a very long time because I'm, you know, martial arts, plus this stuff that they go on. I know it's not Shang-chi, but the multiverse. This phase and Eternals, this phase is like Taylor made for me. Yeah, everything going on. From Loki on.
Starting point is 00:49:26 You do get a lot of cool portals into the MCU that have been previously unexplored, thanks to this movie, but you also get that origin story. It's very unique that I really appreciate. That's what people are saying. And the martial arts combat. The combat scenes, the action sequences are just so beautifully shot, but also you have that intimate close quarters thing, where it's just shot so magnificently.
Starting point is 00:49:47 It is, it's just, it's a revelation. And I know how you're, you get nervous about humor sometimes. Yeah. I think Aquafina is a treasure. I don't get that nervous. And she's great in this movie. It just depends if it fits. If it's not everybody just handing out jokes
Starting point is 00:50:05 because it's time for a joke now. If it fits the character, then yes. You're like organic free range jokes. Absolutely. Like when it, when it fits the character, Like the stuff that Paul Rudd does as Antman, great. Yeah. It fits well.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Like, you know, and Star Lord, I think, thrown one lines, I've made it very clear on how I feel about Drax. Like, I think he's, I think that Batista is awesome. I think that what he's done with that character was great. They made him a joke machine in the second episode. Kind of like Freddie Kruger and, like, Nightmare and Elm Street 6. It's like, okay, what's he here to do? Have him tell one-liner. And they were funny, the one-liners, but he didn't have anything else to do except tell jokes.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Right. But I hear exactly what you're saying, that the humor works. But no, the raid stuff, people were, I saw, and I only sentenced it a lot. I saw it a few times that's saying that there's stuff in this movie that is as good as the raid martial arts. And I said, I don't know. Because there's something that that movie did with a small budget on both Raid 1 and Raid 2. And it's also constant, relentless action. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Where you didn't need much of a story. No. And Shang Chi obviously has a giant story to tell. Three two's got a great story, though. And it does. No, I mean, just because it's an easy story to tell doesn't mean it's not great. I mean, diehard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Well, that's Raid 1. But Raid 2, remember, rate 2 is pretty complex. Yeah, I know. Yeah. That prison scene, where he's just like in a bathroom stall and just comes, it just starts off right away. That's such a great, it's an underrated gangster film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I would say the one-on-one stuff in Shang-Chi holds up to just about any other movie I've seen. But the raid has those. scenes where it's like him taking on like 20 dudes at once and nothing. I mean, Batman after the Martha scene breaking in and just. So there's just somebody getting a little knocking out, Peter's great with a little silly on Twitter, which is fine. If that is what you're getting silly about on Twitter, have at it. Enjoy it.
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Starting point is 00:54:11 thing. G-E-T-Q-U-I-P dot com slash big thing. Quip, the Good Habits Company. You've been using the quip lately? I do. Yeah. My mouth is happy. Now, anytime you do a read, though, we have to know how it played in the bedroom immediately afterwards. So great. Good breath. Good breath. It's not that hard to do, but it's just amazing when you get in close quarters with somebody, or God forbid, you kiss somebody and the breath isn't there. I was. I was. When I was first in L.A., I was hooking up briefly with a young lady. Very nice, very sweet, very attracted. Stinky breath.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Smoked. Oh, that's, see. Gha! Yeah. Yeah, you can't, it's like, it's like, it's like literally. That's where smokers have to date smokers. Yeah. Hey, Mark, what are you doing tonight?
Starting point is 00:54:58 I'm licking an ashtray. More or less. I mean, that's what it's like. No thanks. Yeah. Don't smoke, kids. It's not good. It's the same thing as somebody who's, like, really bombed on, on, like,
Starting point is 00:55:10 liquor you don't like. No, yeah. A lot of people love tequila. I don't love tequila. I don't do any hard alcohol. Ever. I can't. I don't.
Starting point is 00:55:20 It fucks you up. I do not enjoy it. Oh. I can't. It's hard to get down. Okay. Because I do the cough. Like I, there's like, I can handle a mixed drink.
Starting point is 00:55:30 But like, beer's right there. Right. It's literally right there. Plus my Captain Morgan. Kevin Morgan's smooth. Okay. Captain Morgan smooth. I'll let you have it.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Enjoy it. You know? Run with that. smooth, baby. I'm not taking any of yours, of your stash. No, don't need you to. I just need my little treasure chest. Yes. A couple of white beers, couple of IPAs. That's all you need. Well, you should grab some of those beers and throw on that Mandalorian episode because you're going to, the gallery.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Tell you it. This one's tailored made for you. You don't have to watch any of the other ones. I've seen a little bit of the behind the scenes. I might have watched one of the behind the scenes from season one. But yeah, yeah, I mean, it's great. But this one tells you kind of how it all went down. And so did you hear a couple weeks back, that they hired. So you've seen the deep fake videos where there was a deep fake artist that put in, he basically went side to side. He did what they did,
Starting point is 00:56:24 which they used de-aging. They didn't use deep-fake. They used de-aging. And this guy and his version looked way better, right? Lucasfilm hired him. He's officially hired as a Lucasum employee now. Wow. He's going to be doing some shit for them now, right?
Starting point is 00:56:39 But they talked about the different. things that different. There was three processes. I forget what the second one was, but it was de-aging, deep fake, and whatever the third one was. And they talked about how they went back and forth and how this technology, as you know, you've been involved with these videos. And like, it's, but it's, but it's changing and it's just getting, the human eye can't be faked out yet with faces, right? You knew, like when you saw Luke, that's cool, it's Luke, but it was pretty, some of this stuff that this guy does on the deep fake, it's, it's pretty phenomenal. They show, but dude, they show, it's exciting and horrifying.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah, but you have to watch this episode because they show how, like, what the process, they went through all old interviews of Mark Hamill, like stuff that didn't even air through YouTube videos and like stuff that he did from, like, in between like four and five and put it all together and changed his hair around, then had Mark Hamill today walk in and just, it's, it's pretty fascinating. It's just like, again, the technical wizardry that goes into that, how smart you have to, how capable you have to be. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And then you cut to me at my job. And it's, it's like, what is? I bought a horse picture. Yeah. With the gangster and then I shaved my balls. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's, what are we doing?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Subscribe today. What are we doing? We got nothing. Sebastian. Yeah. What? Yeah. You are watching Deepfake and you just talked about Spineerman.
Starting point is 00:58:07 For how long? Doc. I get a job. Park my car. Stop talking about four. I was on the text chain with a bunch of the comedy store, Kroni because we have a fantasy league every year, so we're deciding when the draft is and a bunch of trash dogs.
Starting point is 00:58:27 So we're all going back and forth. And then I just dropped in. Right now Sebastian is with his family in the mountains. He doesn't care about any of this. No. He didn't ever play in the basketball league, did he? Never in the basketball league, but he was, we'd all get together and played baseball a bunch. Yeah, I can see that.
Starting point is 00:58:45 And we all got together and played golf a bunch. What's he? Is he a Cubs guy? Is he a White Sox guy? I don't know what his baseball affiliation is, to be honest with you. Just know Northern Illinois. That's where he went. That doesn't mean shit.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And the Bears. Yeah. Right. Bears. Because I remember, because I had this conversation with people all the time. They always say, you from Queens and you like the Yankees? Yeah. I get that all the time.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Oh, right, right. All the time. Because that stadium was. 15 minutes from my house. Yeah, and it's also the Yankees. It's the shit. Well, but my dad, my dad was a New York Giants baseball fan. Willie Mays, Willie Mays, Willie Mays, Willie Hayes.
Starting point is 00:59:21 No, you got it right. I almost, and I almost screwed it up. Willie Mays was my dad's favorite baseball player. Very smooth recovery. I don't think anybody noticed. Yeah, and at all. Just a bit outside. Well, tried the corner of him, but he loved, loved the New York Giants,
Starting point is 00:59:38 and then they moved away, San Fran, obviously, and he just was like, because the Mets didn't come into, like, 69. My dad hated the Yankees. Didn't have any teams. And then, like, the late 70s, he started watching the Yanks and, like, Reggie Jackson.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Thurman Munson. Speaking of Reggie Jackson, you would talk about the biggest, so this plays into all this. My dad, watching the Yankees in the 70s, all those sides, Dave Winfield, Reggie Jackson, like Goose, all of them, Thurman Munson, all of them.
Starting point is 01:00:13 That's when he, like, just fell in love with him, raised me on him. That's how becoming a Yankee fan. So this might have been a couple months ago. Checking my Twitter feed out of nowhere. Reggie Jackson has started following you. And I go, what? Really? And so I'm like, unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:00:29 So I said him, I go, Mr. Jackson, massive fan. Thank you for the follow. I'm like, maybe you found the Shmode out. He's got the check. verified. Oh, it's 100% his account. Thank you very much for the,
Starting point is 01:00:40 for the fall. I'm a massive fan. My dad raises, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Honor, just want to drop in and say, thank you. So I go back, I check his account. It's not following me. Oh, you had it.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I had it. I said, thank you, and that was the end of it. He's like, oh, this is not, this is not the right guy. You talk about the Yankees. It's probably, you know, I still have a Reggie Jackson rookie card in my collection. I got from my grandfather.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Oh, wow. Okay, let's see if Reggie Jackson follows me. Well, if he does, it's because he thinks you the other Mark Ellis. Sorry. Can I have this, please? Not really. I'm sorry. He's going to follow you because you have his rookie card?
Starting point is 01:01:18 What did I say to you to hurt your feelings when I heard Reggie Jackson followed you? I was nothing, you were supportive. You were nothing but supportive. I don't know if you believe that when you even said it. Every time I take out my phone, they think you're the baseball player. Stupid. Well, you were, you're bitter about not seeing the dog. I'm bitter about not being the baseball player.
Starting point is 01:01:36 about not being the baseball player. All right, Reggie underscore, no, Reggie, Mr. October. Is that what it is? Is. Yeah, it's got to be the one here and that. Here and that. He should absolutely be able to have that. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:47 He's not following you. He doesn't follow. I don't follow him either. He's probably waiting for you. But I looked, because I looked, I'm like, I was looking at who else in our space he followed. Nobody. And I was like, how that, he probably suggested.
Starting point is 01:02:03 He meant to hit somebody else and hit mine. He's the only guy with that, whose nickname is a month and is legit. Because you have other people who come home. Cheater. Okay. Cute. Adorable.
Starting point is 01:02:13 He's not actually Mr. November. There can be another Mr. November. Tom Brady was called Mr. January or Mr. February. I remember the game,
Starting point is 01:02:21 Christian. It was a great game. But again, he doesn't go. What about the Diamondbacks? You do not walk around. If he's walking down the street in New York, no,
Starting point is 01:02:30 you don't. Nest to Reggie Jackson. No. Tom Brady won a lot of Super Bowls. Never going to be. Mr. January, Mr. February. No. This guy's a month.
Starting point is 01:02:39 This guy is an actual... 100%. There's only 11 other possibilities. No. Well, look, this is very fun to do with you once again. I'm excited that we were able to do this. And thank you to you guys who joined us. Thank you again to the new subscribers that found us.
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Starting point is 01:03:14 interruptions on the show by the robot to mark's dismay but we we don't do any of that stuff we just do pure conversation here and we're glad that you guys are responding to it I appreciate it and lastly please please please go on over to mark ellis dot live go look at marks all of his he's got a lot of upcoming dates you should check out and on the seventh and the eighth of the new york comedy club Ken Napsock and myself will be joining Mark in New York, so please go and check out Mark Ellis. Live. I think you can also get the tickets on the Shmode online. Why you just put together the whole lineup?
Starting point is 01:03:45 Oh, what else? I didn't put it. You put Ken on the show. I'm glad that he's on it, but you're the one. You're both off the show. Fine. You're off the ticket. You're off the ticket. That's it. I'm going to do 50 and just take Mark's time. It goes up to the seven minutes. Have it, man. Have that it.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yeah. Live your dream. Yeah. All right. Listen, it's been a lot of fun. I'm excited. Always fun talking. You'll be back next. week maybe and uh they don't call me mr july for nothing they don't no one calls you then all right thank you everybody and we'll see on the flip side

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