The Kristian Harloff Show - Star Wars Movies Chaos EXPLAINED! Jenkins & Feige out! Taika still IN! |

Episode Date: March 9, 2023

Huge news coming from the Lucasfilm Star Wars side of things. The announced Patty Jenkins and Kevin Feige seem to be dead from a report at Variety. The more shocking news was that Taika Waititi's Star Wars movie is not only still moving forward but apparently he will co-star in it? Good move? Bad move. What does this mean for the future of Star Wars films? Will the Lindelof movie still be announced first at Star Wars Celebration? Speaking of Star Wars, we dive into The Mandalorian and give our thoughts on the season thus far. Constantine 2, is it happening or not? New report seems to suggest it is in limbo.We talk Scream 6, Kristian got a peak at John Wick 4 and Roxy is back with her TV suggestions for the weekend. #starwars #DC #WB #Scream #johnwick4  ATHLETIC GREENS: http://www.athleticgreens.com/bigthing Become a Patron!: https://www.patreon.com/TheBigThingShow OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

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Welcome back to the big thing. It's Thursday, and there's a lot to talk about. There's a ton to talk about. Now, we can talk about Scream. Scream's coming out this weekend, Scream 6. I've seen it, Roxy. Saw Brett Belled on the screening again. And we also, what else do we do?

There's big news, and we talked about it on Sith Council yesterday, but we'll talk about it again here today. They have some big news about the movies, man. Kevin Feigy, that movie? Remember that? Not happening. Patty Jenkins, remember that one? Yeah, that's not happening either.

The Taika one, apparently it is happening. Apparently he wants a star in it. Is that an issue? We're going to talk about that more. Roxy has her TV picks, so we'll get into that. Constantine 2. They said it was happening. They said it wasn't happening.

It might not be happening. What the hell's going on with Constantine 2? And John Wick, I saw it. I can't talk about it in depth, but I can at least get into a little bit of an argument, Roxy, because she did it decide she didn't want to go with me to the screen. Is that true? No. All right.

So we'll talk about that. more. But, hey, man, we're excited. And I'll tell you why we're so excited. You know why we're excited? Because we hit it. Now, we did hit 70, but we hit 69, dude. That's right. We're at 1,000 away. 70,000. You guys can make it happen. All you got to do is hit that button. Show a little clash. Just an ounce as we approach that road to 70,000. We're almost there. Get yourself as one of those shirts, man, whether it's Sith, big thing. You don't know. any of it and show a little class by getting a show some class shirt. Patreon.com slash the Big Thing Show. We're getting closer to get on the road.

Man, doing some live shows. Hope you join us. So do that and more. Let's get into it. It's the big thing. It's me. It's Roxy. It's Brett.

Let's do it. Welcome one and all to the Big Thing show. It's me, Fish and Arlon. Roxanne Streyer. Brett Sheridone All three of us We did it We did it

They said it couldn't happen You bailed on scream What happened You had family stuff you did I didn't blame them It sounds like you blamed it Now why'd you bail on John Wick Me?

Why didn't you invite me to John Wick Well I did You didn't I tried to You did not Yes I did You called me I called you back

Is that trying to You didn't text. You didn't text. You didn't anything. I called you back. Wait. You said I didn't try to. Did I try to?

For a second. Did I try to? You gave a half a test. That's a different conversation, but did I try to? I can already see the people. He tried. He tried. I tried.

I did try. And it was the last minute thing. And I got an invite to it and I went. And I'll say, I meant the same thing I said in my immediate reaction. It's good. Enjoy it. It's long. 240.

Oh, wow. So. jealous that you got to go not in fucking Burbank. I know. Yeah, I know. That was one of the main reasons I decided to go that day. I can't believe. It was perfect day for me to go.

I am sorry. You should be. I am sorry. And then I called you back and you tried to claim and you're like, oh, maybe I didn't see it. I didn't see it though. I'm going to check my phone log right now and see if that's true. I'm going to see if I'm having any missed calls from Roxanne Strider. How many times have you caught me in a lie?

Let's see. How many times have you? You call me in line. I don't see it. 17. It would be Thursday, right? Are you making a joke? I'll show you when I called you.

Let's see. I don't see it. Let me show you when I called you. Uh-oh. I don't see it. Oh, my God. Check the phone logs. I'm not seeing it.

I do not have a missed call from Roxy Stryor. Thursday of last week? It was, when did I see it? I called you on Thursday. And I called you back. When is that? On Thursday. Hmm.

I'm not seeing it. Okay. Well, I did. It's bizarre because I don't see it. Did you leave me a voicemail? No. Did you leave me a voicemail? No, but there's no missed call.

Look, see, that's the call to you. But you do see that I call you. I do, but isn't that weird, though, that I don't have a missed call from you? Yeah, that is weird. Okay, so maybe. That is weird, but I didn't lie. Is that you sure you call my, my, you can call my old phone? Because, look, literally, I have a missed call from you.

I have it under new so that I don't mess up. Call me right now. I don't want to see if it works. It's working right now. Okay. Now, let me see if it logs in as a missed call. This is bizarre, Roxy. See, that one is a missed call.

I don't know what to say. I called you back. So you feel a little bit, you feel a little bit like I didn't see it though. Maybe you deleted it. I wouldn't have deleted your call? You couldn't. Brett, how are you? I'm good.

When you're in like that silent mode, does it not show up or it should show up, right? I have missed calls, but by people going, hey, I just tried to call you. I don't know what happened. But it's usually, it's very rare. Usually I pick up when you call. Yes. I called you back immediately and you didn't pick up. And I was like, he must figure.

it out. I thought it was maybe a TikTok thing or something. No, it was, it was, I have an extra seat. I called you back. Do you know who I'm with me? You took somebody? No one went with me. Yeah. That's what makes it worse. It's way worse. Yeah. I first I was sad who you took and then I said you I had, I, if I would have known in the morning. Yeah. I did. I had to take Lydia's friend home. I asked you first. Why didn't you text me? I don't know the answer to that question. Yeah. Why don't you get my miss call? That I don't know. The text, the text is a worse. answer to simply say, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I could have. Yeah. And I know that you wanted to see it. That's why I texted you first. I know. Anyway. Oh, did you asked me before, Brett? Yeah.

I did. You like that. How did you not get one rocks? You're like, she did. She did. She did. You know what I'm having a really hard time with? Pizza.

Yeah. You were about to say what it actually is. Gas? No. What? You would. Shitting. What?

She. Sam. Sam. Shazam. Oh, you didn't get one? You got one? I got one. They said to me, we're not doing it.

They're not doing screenings? That's what they said. What? I don't know what's happening. No comment. Can I come with you that? I don't have a blessed one. They're really keeping that one tight.

I don't know what happened. I used to be like the D.C. girl and they just. Yeah. Maybe I don't know. Well, that's our show, folks. Don't tell me you're not doing it. Maybe they didn't. Maybe that's not what they said.

They said, we are not doing it. I don't know. You just show me. Show me the reply. I don't know if I buy that. Anyway. I don't want to out them on the show, but they just did. No, I didn't say who.

Oh, well, is they? Yeah. Anyway, listen to me. What's going on before we move into the, there's a lot of stuff to talk about? Like what? We did see a screening last night. Yeah.

We were both there. Yeah, we were. You weren't my plus one. I wasn't yours. No, you didn't ask me either. True. I listen to me. Yep.

What's going on with the dude? Anything? I saw him this past weekend. How to go? Fine. Yeah? Yeah. That's it.

Fine. Nothing to report? No, it was really brief because... Like what? He picked up his mail or something? No. Kind of. Oh.

No, I was supposed to see him on Saturday. And then he got stuck at work until two in the morning. That stinks. It sucked. And I think he felt like really bad about it. And that's the kind of shit I don't care about. Right. Because he's beaten.

work. Yeah. One person is not going to get mad about work. So he kept sending me screenshots of his work at the time to show. Yeah. So I was like, well, is that about? A little suss. No, I'm seriously at work.

Here's a screenshot of me at work. I'm not at a strip with a hand on the table. What I'm starting to realize about dating in your 30s is that everybody has extreme baggage. So whoever he's been with before clearly has made him paranoid or whatever about lying. So he's sending me all these screenshots. So I'm trying to read like contract. Like I can't tell what he's trying to send me.

And then so finally we get on the phone and I'm like, what have you been sending me for the last few hours? He's like, I just want you to know I'm actually at work. So I keep sending you time codes with what I'm doing on my screen. I'm like, I know. I know you're at work. Like it's okay. Yeah, it might be a baggage thing for sure.

And I don't think it's okay. And he was like I feel like he was so upset about it. And I was like, I don't care. Like genuinely I don't care. It's work. Yeah. Yeah. If one person you don't have to talk to about work, but he clearly thought for some reason I care.

It could be an X thing. And also, again, with the communication, I'm like, am I displaying anything to you? Am I? You're having to, like, close your lips. Am I displaying anything to you that shows I'm upset right now? Like, nothing. Right. Or that you don't trust him.

That's the thing. that's kind of like, you know, I could see where that would make you feel like, whoa, why are you overly explaining yourself? Yeah, it's just like, you know, so then the next day, we, I was, I was booked all day, but I didn't want to go enough. I still, I already hadn't seen him for two weeks. So he was like, to have any window tomorrow. And I was like, I have one hour window between these two things in which I need to get somewhere. So he like, scheduling us sucks. And he came to pick me up to drive me to where I was gutling. It was nice.

We quickly got a taco and then we went. But I saw him. No, there's none of that. Oh, man. Maybe he was hoping. Maybe that's what. He was over explaining to try to get to the road head. So I only saw him for an hour.

And it's just like, it's not enough time. No, that's not enough time. So I'm seeing him again this weekend. Okay, but an actual date. I hope so. But I right now am going into a uh-oh territory. Not with him, with my schedule because... Too much shit going on.

Yeah, next weekend I'm shooting something both days. Good problem to have. Great problem to have that. And then the weekend after, my best friend from home is coming to stay with me, the weekend after Brad Gilmore and Ferrer coming to stay with me. Okay. And then after that, I go into production for crust. Oh, is that during WrestleMania weekend and they're coming in that weekend?

Yes. Yes. So, not to out them. I think that would be, yeah. But they, like, then I'm going into for crust for a mom. Great. And it is great, but I... There's a lot. It's a lot of time.

So you got to figure out how to see this dude. Yeah, in general. Yeah, he has a really tricky schedule. And then my schedule has always been difficult. So I just am like, okay, I'm excited to see him. But I don't know. It's not like smooth sailing with the trying to... Navigate.

Like the least sexy thing ever, I'm sure as you guys can probably attest to when you're like, I can see you from 1 p.m. I like you were nodding before you even know what she was not talking about. Just the schedule. Like I could see you from one. PM until 1.45 on a Tuesday. It's like, yeah.

What? No, I get, I, I'm nodding because I'm thinking to when I was dating my wife and we were waiting tables and we'd blow off, you know, we'd get our schedule, you know, changed around so we could hang out. And it's so sexy and fun when you start dating somebody and you're seeing them all the time. And you can be like, fucking all the time. And you can be like flirting and getting to know each other.

It's just like, that's such a fun time in a relationship. And it's not there for now. And no. To nobody's fault. To nobody's fault. I just like, I'm not. Shoot, man. Yeah.

Well, look, this was, as I have told you guys many times over, where we've had chapters of Roxy's, this, this to me, you get, like, that really extreme kind of comedy moment at one point. You get the serious moment of what's going to happen. How are they going to, will these two kids last? That's where we are right now in the show with Roxy and Canada. Totally, totally. The good news is that, like, neither of us have been dick at. That's good. Yeah, it's just, we'll see.

It's scheduled. We'll see how it goes. Well, we're rooting for you. Thank you. But we're also, listen, I'll tell you this. We're rooting for, I was rooting for scream last night when I saw it. And? Because here's why.

Okay. Love the first one, like everyone else. I mean, there are so many people who just love this franchise over and over and over and over. There's some fine ones like two, I think it was okay. I can't remember. I haven't seen him in so long. And then I remember there were a couple other ones. I was like, very similar to like, fast and a furious in these other movies.

I'm like, at one point, just let it go. And similar to Fast and Furious, they have an entry. that you go, oh, well, they're trying something different now they know what they're going for and they're succeeding in it. Now, I didn't necessarily love the fifth one. I thought it was fine. I really like the fifth one. A lot of people did really like the fifth one. What I realized is a lot of the stuff that I, which is bizarre, a lot of the stuff that I didn't like about the fifth one, I really liked about this one. And I think it's because they, like I said, they have really jumped on a formula that they have. They stick with the formula.

But inside of the formula, they still kind of throw you some curves where you go, wait. Is that, oh, okay, because once you get to a certain point in the movie, when there's always a reveal, right? Once you get to a reveal, you got to throw suspension and disbelief. It's got to go away. You got to have suspension of disbelief. You have to because it's just so many things you go, well, wait a minute, this, this, this, who cares?

You got to embrace this thing. And I love the fact, the change up to New York. It was fun. It was brutal. It was, I liked the way that they still played on the movie stuff from the past, but they still made it fresh. I thought that both Melissa Barrera and Jenna Ortega were fantastic in the movie. And I really, I would say that it's my second favorite out of the franchise.

That's amazing. Without any spoilers, what did you think about the opening? Loved the opening. I loved the opening. Loved the opening because the opening. That's my dream. sat next to Ellis and Justine Marino, who's a big fan. Yeah, you guys were in a different theater than me.

You had an opportunity to come in. I said, do you want to switch seats? It was just so, that you had one extra seat. It was me and Andy. Oh, I thought you were saying three for the three of you guys. I had three plus three. You didn't say six. You don't listen.

And you didn't call me. Wow. I just want to pause on that for a second. Communication issues. Literally in my entire life. No one's ever said that to you. No one's ever said that to me. I've been called many true things before.

aggressive, a bitch, over a bear, whatever. No one's ever called you a non-listening. You don't listen. Interesting. Interesting. No, you listen. That's a new one. It's true.

You don't listen. No. Well, go ahead, Brad. What was it? So you were all at the screening and you tried to sit? They had two screening. So actually, when I got there, Roxy had texted me, and she goes, which theory are you? I'm not in any theory yet.

I'm about to park. Yeah. But you know what you actually said? You said something that. made perfect sense, but I read it wrong. You had said, I thought it was seven. I thought you were saying theater seven. So I was like, oh, theater seven.

So then I went to look at theater seven. I was like, what is he talking about? You texted me so early that you were already in the theater. And it was like... It was 630. Usually you would not show up a half hour before. It was like 620 when you text. So I was like, I do normally, right at 630 is usually when I'll get there.

Me too. And so I got there and I was like, oh, my God. Did this thing start at 630? at our 6 o'clock and then I miss it. She's like, no, no, no, no, it starts at 7. And then I, so we get there, Justin Marino and Ellis. So she's a stand-up that you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I met her for the first time yesterday. She seemed really cool. She's awesome. She had the coolest nails. She's going to come in to the show for sure. Oh, great. Did she come up with you as? She came after me.

She was out, as far as in the stand-up scene. Yeah, she was, I met her through Mark. Her and Mark and Mark and McCugue did a show called Three's Too Much on Toad Hop Network. And that's where I first met her. And then we had acted in a couple things together. And then I just did her podcast recently. What is it? Glitter and Garbage.

Oh, cool. And she's awesome. So she went, we hung out, talked about the movie in general. And then at one point after that opening scene, I turned to her and I was like, that's an opening. That's a good opening. And so I'm already on board with the opening. I can't wait until you talk about because Christian, that is my literal dream.

I want to learn more about what you're talking about. But what I'll tell you. I loved the opening. The opening was fantastic. It was really good and it was a great set. And what I liked. And even like the second opening. Like the opening and then the next part.

Well, the non-spoiler embargo is up now. So we can, like, what I will say is that what I really dug about ghost face this time around, I think the most brutal and the strongest ghost face has been so far. Like really, like a lot of times ghost face, you throw like a toaster at it. and he's down for the count for a little bit. Yeah. He was brutal in this one. Yeah, definitely.

Real brutal. I mean, he's been brutal in the past, but there's something about just, I don't know, it just seemed a lot more, like a very different version of ghost face this time around. Yeah, scary for sure. Yeah. And it was definitely graphic, brutal. I like the kind of twist and turns.

There was some predictability. There's a lot of over-the-top stuff. Oh, my God. One of the actors, I wonder if you know who I was. I know exactly. I was so over-the-top. I mean, he was in a. movie of a different decade and it was hysteria.

It worked. It worked. I know exactly what you're talking about. Everything he did I was just like crying. I was laughing so hard. It was so funny and I think it was on purpose. Me too. I think so too because I've seen him in other things.

Yeah, and he's fantastic. So I think he made a choice to be like, I'm in the 90s and y'all can't. It was the director's choice. The director's choice decided to put this particular actor into a very 90s over the top feel. and it is like because the particular actors are great. Excellent. Every line I was cracking up. It was hilarious,

but it was nice to see a lot of, you know, people, like the way that they play off the legacy and in general, it was, it was good. I enjoyed it. And it was the first time ever after seeing a screen movie where I said, I want to see another one. That's great. There's one guy that I want to give a special shout out to.

His name is. Louis Gonset Jr. Josh Sagera. and he plays cute guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, he was She-Hulk also he was in. Oh, he has been in the other two, which is the show that I loved on HBO that I think I've told you guys about.

If not, I'll save it for a TV pic. That's awesome. He was an arrow. He has been in so many things, and I, like, he is unbelievable, dramatic and comedic actor. I'm so excited because I think he's going to be an A-LIS celebrity, and this is the start of his, like, more visible journey.

In this, this was not his best, Yeah. Like most shining role, but he's, I just think he's doing his, he's got a thing. He's not on social media, so he's not like, I like him better because of that. I got to talk to this guy because I think he is a fucking star. Yeah. So, I mean, I think that either way, oh, speaking of which we can kind of transition to that, stars that are kind of pop it.

I think I've seen two from the Yellowstone franchise that I think are going to be major stars. And so 1883, I've told you, Isabel May. Did you know she was cast in the Wonder Twins? I didn't know that before they canceled. Apparently she was one of the Wonder Twins. Probably good move that that was canceled because apparently it was not good. Really? That's what I canceled.

But I want her. That also I think opens up the possibility that she's in that family that she might get cast in one of those DCU movies. Okay. But the dude who plays Spencer in 1923, that does a star. Excellent. He's a star. Did you finish it? Yeah, you were right.

It was this was a season finale, I guess. The finale was good, but a lackluster finale. So I put it on my list to talk about today so that we can kind of break it down. Because I couldn't believe that that's how they ended the season. Bizarar. It felt like... My wife was pissed. It felt like they didn't mean to end the season there.

It was a good episode. But it was like, that's it. We got to wait another year and a half before this thing comes back now. It was the last week of February. And I just kept kind of waiting for another episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because there's only, what, a total of eight?

Eight? How many was there of 1883? At least, at least nine, at least. It had to be even more than that. I think there was 10. I think there was 10 of 1883. I'll tell you right now. Then 1923 has a second season.

1883, is that going to help? No, no, I don't think so. 1883. Episode guide. Episode list or whatever guide. Wow, yeah. I said guide and you just didn't want to do that. Ten episodes.

Ten episodes. Huh. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. Christian. I don't know, but I dig in the show. I can't believe you haven't dove into Yellowstone. I watched the first three or four. Yeah, but not first before I watched any other stuff. It's going to be your least favorite of them, but you're still going to like it. I think so. I'm going to go back. And it probably will be Sadie's favorite.

I don't know. She started watching the first three or four with me. We bailed on. We were going to start watching it again the other day. And I said, now that we're kind of caught up in the lore, Let's watch. And we almost, we just like, I don't want to start those things again. We watched like four episodes. And I was like, yeah, but the problem is we watched it over like a year and a half, two years ago. We might not remember any of the shit that we saw.

Is the best character on television? Is Costner? No. Oh, oh, his daughter. Right, right. Yeah, she was good. I remember her. She's the best character on TV.

Throughout every single season. Excited to hear it. You got to look, that whole drama with Costa. I wonder if that's done now. Contractually, you mean? So there was a lot of. drama that went down apparently they one of the things that happened you're not talking about like mischief him as a human you're talking about both i mean not not not no no no no i've only heard like

about the contracts is kind of yes yeah yeah that's more so what i mean but but but his assistant or something or someone he worked with publicly blasted taylor sheridan on instagram weird like like like like after tolsa king him up but tell him the stay in his lane all this stuff and then apparently the they had uh the kevin costner was to being difficult as far showing up and doing all these things and I don't know if it's subsided, but that was why they were going to do that spin-off then with Matthew McConaughey, because they were like, we're just going to end this season with, you know, Kostner and call it a day. I don't know. I feel so conflicted because as somebody who has worked with absolute pricks before, as all three of us have.

We're right here, Roxy. Yeah. It is interesting to see this new era of like Jenna Ortega ripping apart Netflix for certain things. What does she say? Oh. You know, there was this stuff about the COVID that she talked about filming that scene with the COVID. No, I don't know any of this. For Wednesday, the dance scene, she came out and was like, I filmed with COVID.

Oh, that's right. Oh, wow, no, I didn't know that. And, like, outed them on their part, whatever. Obviously, they needed to get it done. They didn't care. She said, like, at first it was like they had tested me and then they knew I was sick, so they sent me to do it. And then when a test came back positive, we just kept, like some, whatever, she outed

the hell out of herself. And that was bizarre. But then she said a couple of things about that. like what you're talking about with Costner, even talking about things like everything that we've seen with Ray Fisher, who I love, but like I,

it is a new era of people talking about their... On social media. On social media. It's silly. And interviews and whatnot about their bosses. And I think that that's the... partially, I think it's one of the ways to keep people accountable.

And if people are doing like racist fuck shit, then obviously you have to keep them accountable. That's different. Yes, I just, I don't know, how this kind of ends because I've worked with people that are like just fucking awful and this might not be the right mindset but I came up in a time where they were fucking awful and you dealt with it internally or you didn't deal with it at all. I think that is the right mindset to be honest with me because it depends on the situation in general but I think that I do think it's a generational thing.

I think that there's a lot of times the problem is now is because like I said with when it comes to Twitter it becomes of like well everyone has a voice and it's time for me to scream out and say this. And the problem is that everybody has a voice. And the thing is, too, that there are people who see and feel it's the only way to express themselves and they're not, and they can't do it in the room, and they're nervous to do it in the room, and they're nervous to confront or to have that confrontation. So instead of doing that, they take to their phone and they tweet it out. And I'm not saying sometimes maybe that is an option to go and maybe you have to do that, but there are a lot of times when people just do it without having conversations because it's another

way to say, oh, I feel like people are supporting me and that way I can do this. And now I have that support and I don't have to deal with it direct. And I think that there's a lot of times that you can do that. You're not wrong. It's like if there's a business that you have with somebody, you say, let's try to get that done first. And I'm not saying that if you have like, let's say sometimes you go 15 conversations and you know you're in the right and then it's the only way and it's your only option,

then it's your only option. But do you ever feel like part of the problem? Like I know for a fact that I have been publicly asked about people that I have not sold the truth about. Like that people will say like, oh, I saw you worked with this person on this thing. And I'm like, oh, yeah. And they're like, what do you think? I'm like, fucking great, you know. And in my head, I'm thinking, piece of shit.

Right. But you don't say it out loud. Sure. Like what? I don't know. It's just an interesting dynamic now that. I would have loved to see social media in like the 30s and 40s and 40s. I know.

Totally. Like Judy Garland on fucking social media, and they're like, how's it going on set? She's like, miserable. They're trying to ruin my life. Yeah, they're making me smoke so I don't eat. I'm taking, you know, weight loss pills. Totally.

They put stuff in her nose, like these little, it plugs. But the question of would, would the audience back then have cared? Yeah, I don't know. Most of them, you know, it's like, most, what she complains about. She's making more than I am right now. Yeah, I'm in a fucking ditch right now. That's the other problem.

I'm not saying that I'm not saying they're right. I'm just saying in general that that's probably what would have been said. You do see the people who do come forward and it's not received very well. Yeah. Like the general public, no matter what it is, even when people are saying really legitimate concerns, I don't know. People just tend to not like people who out other people about shit. Yeah, it just depends.

And I think that that's where you get to a place where, and I think that as much as it's, everyone seems to be complaining it now in stand-up comedy. It's like, oh, I understood where Chris Rock was coming from where it's not that there aren't issues here, but the problem is when everybody just takes to Twitter and it just takes to complain about stuff and just like, it becomes less effective because we used to see it all the time with people that we work with, all the time. And it's just like, it would be, it would be, hey, I need to get my thoughts out now, but I'm going to go after the person that I work with. And it's like, why are you doing that when you work with this person?

And it's like, but it's not like, well, I don't want to work through them anymore. You have to see that person next week. And yet you're fighting with that person. You're making your own life more challenging. Yeah. And it's like, I'm going to do this. And I've had conversations with people where they've tweeted first about things. And I'm like, then I call the person.

I'm like, we could have talked about this first. What are you doing? Well, I didn't know. You're right. I shouldn't have done that. Just talk. And that's what happens a lot of times. But the same guy.

This is this Costner friend. Or what are you doing? Penn Badgley has been talking about like Netflix as well, with the serial killer movies and shows what they're doing, and he's doing you, and he's like saying, you know, Dommer, that's on you guys. I'm like, well, they're a parent company. I'm not saying you shouldn't have an opinion on this.

It's just interesting that during this time period, everybody is vocalizing their opinion. If I'm Netflix and I'm seeing him do that, I'm not stoked. Well, couldn't the same be said about Chris Rock when he's talking about Megan Markle? Because they have a whole series with Netflix. Definitely it could be. Yeah, I, yeah.

I'm going to talk about Chris Rock and TV picks too, but it was interesting yesterday on the S-E-N. The only two people who had seen the Chris Rock special were me and Winston. And we had drastically different takes on it. His being much more relevant and valid because he has takes from being a black man that I can't possibly like understand or I do understand, but it wouldn't have occurred to me. Right, right. But it's very interesting that just like the way he interpreted a lot of the special was bad for the culture. And I didn't see it that way at all. So it also depends on like what perspective you're coming from when you hear other people airing their grievances or whatever you want to call what Chris Rock did.

I'll have to see it because I know everybody wants my opinion. Yeah, true. It would make sense. Yeah. Yeah, I was kind of upset that you weren't the first person I was. I need to weigh in on this. Part of we did think about calling. my YouTube show, like, or the episode, a white girl's opinion on Chris Rock special.

Just like, you should. Just getting it out there. Absolutely. I believe you don't put your numbers in. It's so pretty. It's not that. I do put my numbers in. It's not showing up.

I absolutely do. Like, all my numbers were in there for some stupid reason. It just stopped doing it. I don't know what. Fix it in two minutes. That would be great if you did. Forget about it. Forget about it.

I've got specials I want you to see. Maybe I'll tell you out, or I can tell you right now, but the, Neil Brennan is one. I want you to see. And three mics is one from 2017. Great in dealing with depression. And then he did another one. It was recently, I can't remember the name of it.

But he used to wrote for Chappelle. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, listen. Yeah. So we had some good stuff, good talk thus far. And we're not even half an hour into it. So it's going to be going to need a lot of energy to keep up. Well, if you're taking athletic greens,

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And I go, how do you do that? I can't take a whole bunch of vitamins. I like doing it all in one shot. That's what I do with Athletic Greens. I love it. I take it all the time. Every day, you guys know that. I mean, how long I've been talking about Athletic Greens now?

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Between my diet that I have, which I'll tell you about later, and then athletic greens, I've been doing good. I've been having good energy. People have been noticing that. I like that. It helped me with my energy. and why do you want to take a whole bunch of different things? You just take this and that's it.

I take it in a bottle of water and I shake it up and I love it. And AG1 was designed with ease in mind so you can live healthier and better with having to do a lot. People love it. Katie Sackoff is, like I said, she's coming on a Monday and I talked about Athletic Greens on the show and she loves Athletic Greens. And I'm going to leave that in the show when she says it, of course.

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And if you watch that Katie Sackoff interview, by the way, she talks about how much she loved Athletic Greens and AG1. So if you want to try to win that signed Boca Tan helmet, then you've got to watch that interview and you can do it. Now everybody after this episode is going to want to sign Bocatan helmet. Did you get a chance to watch the episode? Of episode two. In the Lorraine?

Two. Yeah. Last time. Oh, you watched it last time. That's right. You watched it as a screener. But did we get three? No, we just got two.

So two aired last night. No, I'm saying, are they going to be sending us early? I don't know. That's a good question. I think because, like, last night I was looking to see if, you know, again, if it was still, like, late last night. They'd kind of pulled it. So I wonder if they're going to send it early or they usually, it's what's so bizarre.

What they normally do is send it, like, when it drops on. Disney Plus and I'm like yeah I get that too but you know it's different for everybody like um sometimes you get different things in different times than I do and sometimes the same thing with the people I know yeah they'll be like oh did you get the drop and I'm like oh or like I'll get the drop and text them no no that's interesting I don't know but either way the episode dropped and people are are as excited as we are yeah because it was it it it you saw it yeah no I was like why didn't I watch oh I saw it The katy of it all. It was great.

And I love the idea that we, you know, she's, and she's on the show. You can see it, you can see that interview that we did. And then she's coming back for a full spoiler discussion. Yeah, yeah. You know, I was kind of surprised to see she's so heavily featured. Yeah. And she wasn't as featured in some of the promo stuff, so I didn't know what they were doing with her character this season. So I was stoked when we saw episode two, because to me she, not just because I like her.

She's just, like, so fucking talented. So I loved seeing their dynamic. And I was like, I wonder if they'd try to keep that as a surprise or what they were doing that. I know that we did Collider Live with her before. Did you, was that the first time you met her? Yeah. And then the Halloween Horn Nights. Right.

That's right. So we went to. That's it. I don't know her well. She just seems cool. And you guys say good things. She's the best. And I mean, what's crazy is I was just, I've known her now coming up on 17 years.

Yikes. Which is nuts. From what? When did I mean her? No, from what? Like, how did you guys meet? So we met at Silver Pictures. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

Yeah, we met at Silver Pictures. And, um, what did you? Why did you slash it? I didn't know, I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. Because I always forget, like, I, I remember when Tom was here, I was like, how did you guys?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I only know you guys, CPK. I know you and your wife, CPK. I don't know you and your wife. I, at some point I did. You know me and you know my wife. Yeah. How did you guys meet?

It's for Santa. My friend. Oh, because something, she was doing, makeup for somebody? No, no, no. She came to the show? My friend Tom was seeing her, no, no, I was seeing her best friend. And they took her to a show one night.

And I met her. That's not, that's a very, very long story inside of it. That's the first time I actually ever met her. But, yeah, so I jumping back into a Mandalorian and to see, just to see what, the fact that you have Katie and the fact that she voiced the character in the Clone Wars and to see what she's doing with the character now. And the idea, they did show in the first trailer of her saying, you didn't think your dad was the only Mandalorian, did you?

Like, that sets up so much. And it sets up so much in this episode. And I think that it allows, like, Pedro Pascall is great. He's amazing. And he's killing it in Last of Us. But his, it's very widely known. His voice is really what's prominent. You're Brendan Wayne and Lateef, who are the other two Mandalarians.

Katie's on set all the time. recognizable science fiction kind of bad. As I told her on the show, she's got street cred. It makes sense that they're using her more. Yeah, of course. I don't know if you know the answer to this. And also if you do know the answer to this, I don't know if you could share the answer to this.

So she was Bocatan in the... Clone Wars and Rebels. Clone Wars and Rebels. Do you know then, is she their first call to audition for Mandalorian? Or does she not audition as a straight offer? So she told the story, she's told it before, and then she told it again during her interview. essentially what happened was she walked up to Dave Filoni and she was half kidding, half serious,

was like, so, you know, Bo Catana. It fits the right way. You know, she's age-wise, it fits up. Like, what's she doing? It's the Mandalorian, you know? And she just goes kind of goofing with them. And then she said, like, she got a phone call like two weeks later or three weeks later that, you know, they wanted to come in and do the role.

She didn't have to audition. She didn't audition. So they didn't read anybody else. No, because it's like for her, it's the difference is that she had the benefit of doing. And this is what I really like, and we can kind of transition into The Last of Us after this, is that what I really like about what they're doing with The Last of Us is there's a lot of the video game characters that don't necessarily fit the look of what the character would be in live action, but they're still giving them roles and bringing them back, right?

A lot of times that doesn't happen. And the idea that Katie was able to do both, that she was, she voiced this character, and then she was able to come back because she was kind of known in the science fiction, not only with science fiction, but with Longmeyer and these other things that she's done, if you can get her back, you should have got her back. And I'm glad to do. And I still stand by it. I still think that she would have been,

nothing against Brie Larson. I think she would, Katie would have been a much better, uh, Captain Marvel. Oh, interesting. I could see that.

I like Brie Larson a lot, but I, they have similar types kind of. Yeah. So, but speaking of last of us. Oh. Are you not going to let me save anything over TV time?

Oh, you're going to talk about that as well? Didn't I? Yeah, we can, we can, we can, we can transition and talk about them.

Let's wait. Let's wait. It's the only thing I had any opinion about. Well, we can wait, and we can actually stay in the Star Wars world because I want to talk to you guys about this story that dropped, and it was pretty big. This is a report that came out yesterday, or two days ago from a Hollywood reporter,

and it indicates that Lucasfilm is shaking up at Star Wars film development site with both Kevin Feige and Patty Jenkins' projects' shelves. In addition, filmmaker Tycho Watiti may be starring in his own Star Wars film. Lucasfilm announced that Patty Jenkins' Rogue Squadron in 2020, but then two years later pulled the title from, its plan 2020, release date as the project

was a long way from production. Now, variety reports, excuse me. And according to its source, the film is no longer in active development, and the studio is essentially, and the project is dead. Said sources said the same thing for the project to be produced by Kevin Feige.

Feige was the first one linked to a Star Wars film back in 2019, which led to the talks that he could be replacing Kathleen Kennedy and Lucas film. That didn't happen, but the project was moving along with screenwriter Michael Waldron. So what project are they saying was dead?

They're saying both the Kevin Feige and the Patty Jenkins movies are dead. Kevin Feige's Marvel commitments are set to keep him busy for a lot of years, and Waldron has moved on to write for Avengers Secret Wars. Ryan Johnson's commitment to Knives Out Three will also keep him busy, so that's probably not going to happen either. The trade sources indicate that Thor Love and Thunder filmmaker Tycho Atiti continues to work on his possible Star Wars film,

and will most likely have a major role in it, not as the lead, but as a key supporting player. The studio is also reportedly remaining committed to a Star Wars movie from two-time Oscar-winning documentarian Charmaine Obeyed Chinoi, which has Damon Lindelof and Justin Britt Gibson attached to write the script. The studio will reportedly begin to unveil its plans at Star Wars Celebration April 7th.

Okay, so we did talk about this kind of at depth at the Sith Council, but I want to get your common folks' opinion. This is a thing that happens. Don't say yeah when somebody says common folks, just for your own. I am a common folk. Okay, then do. Yeah. Yeah.

You are. I know. He said, yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's like, take a drink. You're on, buddy. You know, up.

I'm up. Do you know how badly I want to make you a shirt that just says common folk? Common folk. Yeah. I'll wear it. I know. I'll wear it with Brian. And you would.

Common folk is like the 20, 23 version of Schmo. Yeah. Common folk. It's the common folk show. Yeah. You're still trying to figure out what the hell. How great was that banner, by the way? It was good.

I feel bad for Kate. She loved it. She's always hilarious. Yeah. I still. Yeah, plus she still, but started with, I hate you. This is hilarious. It is hysterical.

Okay, listen. I told her I'm the only reason she's on there. It's true. And Ash. Well, Ash is the main reason. I take less credit than him, but more credit than anybody else. And so people are, what the hell they're talking about? We started the live streaming in flux over on the Christian Orlov and French Channel.

We do it. There's an amazing comment on there that yesterday. I just responded to that. First of all, a lot of people watched the show, which I was stoked about, and they liked it a lot. And it was great feedback. But one person commented it was like, I completely disagree with Roxy's take on that parents should make their kids play certain sports to do whatever. You don't know what, and it was like, this novel.

And I was like, it was a joke. Yeah, don't know. I haven't checked the comments on there. I haven't looked at a joke. Don't worry about it. You made some good jokes. It was great in the middle, middle conversation with Tom. Didn't bother me.

We're talking, Danny was on the show. And in the middle of it, I don't know where she, Roxie just stops the conversation. She goes, have you ever seen a psycho interest? It was hilarious. And then do you think he answered the question straightforward or no? Yeah, let me say, hey. Tom, did you ever see a psychiatrist before? You know, it's a gray area.

It's a gray area. I think that's later on me what he said. You know, I mean, come. And then finally, Christian goes, do you ever pay to see a therapist? He said, no. Yeah, not, I mean, not pay. Not pay.

I knew a guy. Yeah. I knew a guy. I knew a guy. A lot of people. All right, let's back to Star Wars. Yeah. The problem is this, the same thing that I said was it.

it's just a continuous issue. Now, maybe they're nipping in in the bud, but you can, and there's no way I'm even going to get to all of them, I'm sure. But let's start with Force Awakens. The thing that is probably not talked about and you never even know if it's true or not, apparently there was initial clash with JJ and Kathleen Kennedy, but that worked itself out, made a lot of money, so whatever. And who didn't even know that's true?

So that's part one. And then they get into Rogue One. Rogue Woman's successful, lots of problems on set. You had Gareth Edwards, who there's no world where he directed that movie. Tony Gilroy clearly directed it. And now, Freddie Prince Jr. says that Filoni is the one who directed the Vader scene. Right. So that whole thing was just all over the map, but they held it together in the middle of money.

Why would Freddie Prince Jr. know that? Because he was tight with Faloni. Oh. Yeah. And I, you know, I don't remember movies sometimes. He's not in it, right? Freddie? No, Freddy's, it was rebels. Yeah, he's a prominent figure in rebels. He played Canaan. So he worked with Dave all the time.

So anyway, so that was a big issue in general, was the Rogue 1. And then you get to Josh Trank was supposed to do Bobafet. Gone, right? That's the guy they did the Fantas before? Yep, gone. Colin Travaro. Gone. Lord Miller.

gone. Gone. Kevin Sorbo. He's gone. Gone. Gone. It's gone. Benny off and Weiss with Game of Thrones.

Gone. F. Murray Abraham. But there's all these different things like that they keep kidding. And I'm sure I'm missing some, but you get it now. Patty Jenkins, Kevin Feige. It's like stop announcing them unless they're about to go into production, right? And I'll be honest. I didn't think that the Tyco with T1 was even going to happen.

I think the idea, I think that you can automatically right away, go, whoa, I just thought a Lerlum and Thunder, and now they're going to do a movie with Tyke, and he's going to be the lead. And you have the right instinct to go, that could be a disaster. Because if it's a pure... Not the lead. Right, but one, a starring role. Yeah. That could be a disaster.

However, if you look at episode one of the Mandalorian, he was also a pretty big character in that season one, as IG-11. He was a big character. character and so much so that they're apparently bringing him back again into season three and he was great in it and he directed a great episode in mandolarian my biggest concern is the writing of it all is that do you think it's weird to have somebody be two characters in the same universe or no because it's a droid yeah i i don't know a problem with that i i think that it just showed tycho tc's obviously a massive star wars fan if you're a massive star wars fan and you are directing a star movie and you're also an actor, I would put my fucking self in the movie, too.

Yeah. I know, but I just think he's, I think he has two, he's spinning too many plates. I think he's, I think, and I felt the same way about Thor. I, so I'm, I'm with you there, but I really like him. I do too. I, I tend to like his non-franchised stuff better than, you know, like my favorite thing of his is obviously Jojo Rabbit. I believe in him, though, and I think that he's a really good actor.

Yeah, my hope is this. Yeah, I just, I, I think Star Wars doesn't need, because, Taika has leaned into comedy, no matter what he's done. He's leaned into comedy. Which even the first Mandalorian episode with the conversation with the stormtroopers and everything, too, which is funny. But then he ended it wonderfully. But it's when he's co-writing, I think it's going to be a little stronger, but he's writing the whole thing. I think it's going to lean heavily on comedy.

And I don't think Star Wars needs that right now. What Star Wars movies are happening? There have not been. There's not one confirmed. So this is what, after. But this report, not that this is what I want to happen, but this is my guess. My guess is that they're going to announce two movies at Star Wars Celebration on that Friday panel. In April?

In London, yeah, in April. I think they're going to announce. No. I think they're going to announce, movie one will be this Lindelhoff movie that they mentioned. I think that's the first one they go with. And I think it's probably close to shooting. And I think they start shooting it soon. That's exciting because of Lost and Watchmen and Leftovers.

Leftover is my favorite. Yeah. And from the rumors is that Flonie has been in the room and that they're collaborating with a lot of the Star Wars heads and that they're putting together a plan. That's a one-off movie? I don't know. Yeah, so you don't know.

There's no title. There's no. Nobody knows. Just rumors and that type of thing. Don to your head. What's the era of the movie? After episode, it takes place after episode nine. Okay.

And Ray might show up. I don't think it's going to lead Ray, but I think Ray will show. up. And I think don't be surprised if some of the other, you know, fan or those people to show up, but I don't think they're the leads. I think that they're part of the universe. Do you think it's prepping for 10, 11, 12? No. I just think they're kind of standalone movies that could, they're starting to build out the after, which could be great depending on how and how it plays. And apparently Tycho Atiti's movie is in that same era. And if that's the case, I think Tyca's movie is,

even though I don't think it should be, I think it's also announced about what it comes. And I think you get, I think you get Damon Lindelof's movie in 20, either 20, 25 or 2026, but most, depending if they start shooting it this year, which are probably going to start shooting soon, you could probably get that done in two years. So maybe the end of 2025. And then Taikas will be 2026. And is it the same error, you think? I think so, yeah.

That's weird, right? Not necessarily if they're making, if they actually have a plan, then maybe, maybe it plays out well. So I think that if you're going to, what I would cross my fingers is that they don't do the Tycoon movie. They scrap it. And they do Lindelof's movie and then the Sean Levy movie that's been rumored. What's that? Who knows? It just said that Sean Levy was working on a project.

And that if Sean Levy's working on a project, then it would be Sean Levy, his movie after Lindeloff. That's what I would hope for, but I don't think that's what's going to happen. And you're hoping for a trilogy or hoping for Sandelof? I'm hoping for a good movie. to lead us into the first one because they haven't had a great, I mean, Rogue One to me is getting better and better every time I watch it, so I think that's the best Star Wars movie that they've made since, you know, Jedi and then I would say Rogue One and then the prequels to me are better than anything

that has been done in the new era. You like the prequel all better than the singles. Yeah, because even Force Awakens, which are- You like One, Two, Three better than you like 7,89? No, no, no. As far as an enjoyment, And as far as what it does for the overall saga, yeah, because I think for the overall saga, I didn't know that about you.

I think that for a while it was a little different because when I started watching them, because here's the difference. Do I think that episode seven is a better main movie than episode two? Yes. But the difference is this. I said, do you like better? Yeah, I do like it better because when I watch episode two, it leads into a lot of great episodes of Clone Wars. and it leads into a lot of the lore

and it plays into the story really well because now I know what's coming after that movie and it ties all together nice. Episode 7 is a fun watch, but what does it lead to? It leads to a movie I don't like it all. Yeah. Because my last favorite move,

I mean, in my list, I still rank Force Awakens over attack of the clones. I still rank it over because it's a better movie. But I think that Last Jedi, people are like, How do you put that last? Because you're a hater. No, because I like it the least,

and I think it is the worst Star Wars movie. Like, for sure. But anyway. And that's nine? No. Eight. Yeah. I still have not seen nine.

I don't. I think you'd like nine. I probably like it. I'm not as critical on these things because, I mean, it's, you know, if I just see some. It's a pop-saber.

It's a cotton candy movie that is ridiculous. But that, on that note, I think anybody that's coming into this next movie is shit in themselves. I was like, because that was such a, they've got to dig themselves out of that hole of the, of nine, right? To have a plan. It's not, digging the hole is nothing. They have, they have all, it's, it's digging their systems out of a hole.

But the fix is easy and difficult at the same time. And all it is is make a good movie. Yeah. Make a good story. Like if you launch, because that's why, if you launch with some kind of divisive, silly comedy, and I'm not saying that's what Tyca's movie is, but it has the fear that it could be. You don't want a divisive movie for your first one. You want one that, you know, everybody can kind of get on board the same way they did for the first season of Mandalorian.

Anyway, this is kind of a rehash of the conversation. I'm sure we had on. Can I ask you one more question? I know I keep harping on this, but this is what I care about as a common joke. Will there ever be a 10-11-12? Right now there's no plans for, do I think they'll ever be ever? Yeah, of course. Or would it be like a negative zero, negative one, negative two?

Yeah, they'll do 10, 11 and 12. Now, whether or not that happens when, you know, we're in our 50s and 60s, and who knows. But our lifetime. Yeah, maybe not. I don't know. I know the people at home are probably like, why do you care so much about that?

I don't know why. I just like the trilogies. Yeah, I mean, there's still possibilities. I think they still should go back in time and do a trilogy, you know. That's what I meant, zero negative one. Yeah, yeah, like to like an old republic stuff. What would you call it, though? You just call the old republic.

Number wise. You don't have to number it. You got to number it. Maybe ABC. Stop this. There's letters. I need you to stop. I want to get, before we get to Roxy's picks, I want to go to some more news here.

Oh, Shmega Dunes coming out. I love that. Yeah, I know. I'm stoked. All right, let's talk about Constantine, too, because nobody knows what the hell's going on with this movie. Six months ago, it came word that Canada Reeves and Francis Lawrence. We're going to team up to do a sequel to Constantine at Warner Brothers. Now, Reeves starred as the chain smoking supernatural exercise.

and demonologist John Constantine from the Hellblazer Comics, who attempts to help a woman Rachel Weiss and get caught up in the battle between heaven and hell. Akiva Goldsman was returning to write the screenplay, whilst J.J. Abrams and Hannah McGullow will produce. The last report in the film came back in late January, the day before James Gunn and Peter Safran announced their new DC slate of projects. At that time, Reeves indicated they had only gotten the go-ahead, and so the development of the project had just begun. Then, of course, came to DC Studio's slate reveal and everything changed.

It's published under the DC imprint Vertigo. Now, out promoting John Wick chapter 4, Reeves now said that the project progress is in limbo right now as the field is being re-evaluated by DC Studios but tells Collideries hopeful it will move forward. Reeves says DC World is re-evaluating whether or not they want to do a Constantine with me in the movie, so fingers are crossed. Lawrence, meanwhile, has been busy with The Hunger Games, the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes prequel, and also has the Bioshock film adaptation on his slate. he offers his own update to the outlet, telling him that there are difficulties with the Constantine sequel due to the rights issue.

This is what Lawrence says. It's something we've been talking about since we made Constantine because we all loved it. So we've been talking about it, talking about it, all the DC properties because Vertigo is part of D.C., that's sort of like the control of these properties and get complicated with Warner Brothers, D.C., J.J. Abrams, deal, all these types of things. There's a lot of things complicating it. So it was never a Kiva and Kianu. I happened to be sort of convinced to do it. it was really trying to figure out how we can get some sort of control over the character again.

And then the sequels are still moving ahead apparently last month, but then with the elseroads, no date has been set, so it's a bit confusing. So what's that last part? He said, I've never, he said, so it was never a Kiva and Kianu, and I happened to be sort of convinced to do it. What does that mean? So it was never, maybe that they're not the ones that brought him in. Maybe it was Warner Brothers had to convince him to do it.

I don't know. But he's saying he had to be convinced. I guess so. And the rights thing is weird, too, because Vertigo is a, is D.C. property owned by Warner Brothers. So I'm confused. Maybe it's not about, maybe the terminology we're using his rights, but really he means, like, which characters you have access to based on who, like, what the plans for the DC are with the movies and the comic books and the shows. Because it shouldn't really be a rights issue. There's nobody else who has the rights to Vertigo.

Yeah, I don't know. It's a whole, it's a whole weird thing. but I don't think this movie sees the light of day. I've been talking about this on Only Stupid Answer to DJ Wildred nonstop because he has from day one has been saying we're never going to see this movie. And I keep saying I think we're going to see this movie. And this is the first time I'm like, I don't know that we're going to see this movie. I think that I don't, James Gunn is too many things he's worried about right now.

And I don't think this is one of the men as much. Now, look, it's the same conversation we had the other day when I was talking about with like the Flash. I hate to tell people this, and I tell them that if the flash makes $1.2 billion, there's going to be serious conversations about bringing in us back. It's going to happen. Now, wait, where are you coming up at 1.2? I'm just saying. I'm just saying if it made that kind of money.

Imagine me $1.2 billion. I just crunched the numbers. But imagine, but the same can be said about. You flash to the future. That's right. If you're Zazloff and you look and you go, hey, man, this John Wick movie, just made a lot of money. People still love Keanu.

Are we sure we don't want to do this? Constantine movie? That might happen also. So you don't know. Because John Wick's going to make that movie is going to make a lot of money. A lot. It's weird that this was even ever a thing, though. But it is.

I would definitely want to see it. It doesn't really make sense fully with what they're doing. I wonder if the rights that he's really talking about is that they want a Constantine in their universe. Maybe. And they don't want it to be Keanu. And if that's the case, it doesn't make sense for their, their DC, because we know the movie that they announced that was Vertigo was Swamping. Oh, right.

And so we know that they are intending to have Swamphing. That is playing inside of the DC. It is elseworld, but they know. No, Swampthing's not elsewhere. They said that there is going to be a tie into that. That was their word. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's going to be a tie-in, which means that theoretically they're going to want a

Constantine at some point, and that probably doesn't go with their swamp thing if it's Keanu. Maybe not, though. But it's also one of these things that you're James Gunn. Because if you're James Gunn, you probably don't, you mean, as much as you love Canter Reeves, you go, it's just not going to fit into what I'm doing. But it also has to be, there had to be a conversation with James Gunn and Zazloff where he's like, okay, look, I want to do this.

I absolutely wanted it. But Peter and I have to be able to make our choices, even if it comes down to a studio thing where you guys think that this is the move, I don't, I can't work where it's like, okay, I had this whole plan. And then you guys are like, oh, well, I need this. We need this to happen because this is making money. So that might be in there. And they might allow his gun and saffron to do their thing because that's what I would ask for.

It's like, okay, because if I have to run this thing, but every five seconds you guys are going, well, I need you to make this movie now. I need you. That's going to be problematic. Do you think these conversations take place over like cigars and billiards? I don't know. I don't know if guns are big cigar and billiards. I just, I honestly, like sometimes it feels like in the bros club.

Fat cat talk. I just, I'm wondering. Like, are Zazlov and Saffirn gun chilling? And Zazloff's like, all right, you do have creative control, but, like, you know, I love me some Keanu. He made mad money. Can you find a way to put the Keanu in there? I just wonder if it's like...

The top gun guy? No, not the top gun guy. Two words. Kianu. You don't know who Kiano is? Kian old. Kian old. Or yeah.

Kian yes. Kian pass. 69. Thank you. Thank you. You can. Anyway. When I hear Reeves, I think Matt.

Are you the Matt Reeves now? To me, Keanu's Keanu. He's not Reeves. Right. Well, it's better than saying Christopher Reeves. People say Christopher Reeves. Yeah, I've been known to do that several times. Yeah.

Okay. All right, well, let's move on here. We've got some TV talk here, Roxy. You got a bunch of stuff that we need to talk about. Yeah, I do. Even though you took most of it for me. Extensive. This one looks good.

That was a good one. Oh, Brett, you really love this one? Oh, man. I mean, as far as an image? I figured that you were going to love Farmer Wants a Wife. Yes. Do you know what that is? Yeah.

Do you? Okay. Okay. I saw a preview. Yeah. Go ahead. So this is a show for a very particular group of people, and I am one of them. It is a reality dating competition show on Fox called Farmer Wants a Wife.

And I'm pretty sure today is the first episode. Okay. I think it drops today. And it's like the bachelor, but with farmers. And there's four farmers that we focus on. And these women, all, like five of them go to the farms with each of these guys. Are they farmers also these guys? No.

Some of them grew up on farms. Some of them grew up in New York City. Some of them grew up in Los Angeles. Some of them grew up in Kentucky. Some of them know how to farm. And some of the farmers are looking for women who know how to farm. And some of them don't. And some of the farmers like that.

It's very wholesome. It's like the way that they speak to each other kind of feels fairy tale. Like it's simple. So they're not going trash TV with this one. So far, no. I mean, I just really like that it's like it seems. I usually you guys know I love a drink in somebody's face. But it's just so it's lover of love, shippers of ships, wholesome, dating.

And you get the feeling that it's going to work. All right. So what's next? Okay, so if that show isn't for you, then don't worry, I will get to you because Christian and I are loving a show called 1923 and it finished its first season. It had eight episodes. It had a finale that I feel like didn't feel like finale, but still every single episode of this show was excellent. And I'm loving Taylor Sheridan's universe. That's his name, right?

Yeah. Yeah, this is so good. I love this show. It's great. What do you make of what's happening with the? the guy with the two women that he keeps making. It's a power play. It's a power thing.

Isn't that crazy? Those scenes are wild. They're really wild. My favorite thing that happens are where I laughed out loud. Maybe I shouldn't have is something that happens on the boat that incites this big incident. The moment, I laughed so loud. Really? It was hilarious.

Wasn't it hilarious? I don't know about hilarious. It was hilarious. I was like, I couldn't believe because it's like, there's this moment that keeps happening, and you're just like, okay, enough, enough, enough. And a particular person isn't, it's not enough. It's not enough. It's not enough.

He's an idiot. He's an idiot. I love, though, the two of their love story. Yeah. It's so beautiful. And I love that one line from the guy who's like, you might question the little legit, no, the random guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, you can't deny it, you know. Yeah. And both the actors, the actress is amazing. He's obviously just everything. I think he is like, you start to take that guy and put him into movies. That's your next action star.

I think he could be definitely a Marvel or DC guy. Like could really, really see him. I mean, he could be Aquaman. Like, you could definitely do a lot of different stuff. You know, not even necessarily superhero. Just putting him in like kind of like a new, you know, Indiana Jones type. For sure that too. For sure that too.

Do you feel like he could have done a good Han Solo? Um, I don't know. I got to see the, this, the smugness maybe. I mean, maybe so, but I mean, I believe that he's Hans Solo's nephew. I mean, I believe that he's Harrison Ford's nephew. Yeah. And in the show. And it's, and Helen Mirren is doing next level stuff in this. And she's always amazing. Oh, and she was like, hey, you like, hey, you like that. You haven't seen nothing yet. Have you seen the show yet? Um, but I love her, man. But she was like, oh, you think that's good. How about this? Just wait. Go ahead, Roxy. She's excellent. So 1923.

So check it out. The most controversial of my picks, I am recommending that people watch Chris Rock Selective Outrage. I am not saying it's perfect. It's not polished. But I think that it was interesting. I liked the stuff about the Kardashians, I thought. It was really funny. I liked the poignant moments about his mom versus his daughter and what the mom, like,

between going to the vet and then now where she is. I thought that was really interesting. And then the stuff about the slap hurt around the world, I was laughing my face off. And I know that some people didn't think this was funny. I did. Not all of it, but some of it. Definitely it's going to be something talked about.

So I would recommend Chris Rock's special. And then the last of us, I put this on here every week almost. This was the penultimate episode. if you have not started the show, which a lot of people have. And I just think this is a perfect time to binge it because you're going to be able to finish it with the people. And it doesn't miss for me.

It doesn't miss. It's one-off episodes when we're focused on Ellie, when we're focused on Joel, we're focused on characters that aren't even two of our main characters. And this week, I genuinely am just shocked with how brilliantly they are doing this show. So this was a choice that I had made. And I'm glad I made it because I wasn't sure. Playing the game?

Yeah, playing the game. But I played the game. What I was doing, you know this. I was playing the game. Now you played ahead. I don't like this choice. I played ahead and I knew it was going to happen this time around because I wanted the perspective of the game players this time. And I'm glad that I did.

No, I'm glad that I'm telling you because there was a lot of things I said because what else, what I'm going to tell people now for last of us. If you didn't watch it, I'm going to go a little spoiler here. So this is your last year pick, right? Not. No. There's not. Okay. Well, then you know.

And not a spoiler for the future. No, no, no, spoiler for this episode. So if you haven't watched it, you might want to just tune out for this particular thing. Because in the game, as you know, when you meet David, you trust him more than you do in the show. Because at one point when you're in that, they're in the shed, you know, talking after they bring the deer in there, a few of the infected come in and they have to fight him off. And it shows that he could have turned on her at any point. He doesn't, right? I actually did trust him at first.

Yeah, some people did. And that's what I, the question I asked. Not full trust, but it was like... But they show them in that scene, that opening scene where it plays very kind of David Koresh. And they don't have that in the game. But then the creators apparently talked about in the podcast why they didn't use that choice. And that's why the only choice I wish they would have kept from the game that they didn't have in. I love the idea that, and this happens in the game and in the show.

Ellie's got to be the one that takes him out. Got to be. It's the whole point of the entire relationship and what she's able to find inside. But there's a back and forth that happens in the game as you're fighting David. So intense. And Joel is on his way to find her. And he's got to pick people off in order to get there. He's not the one that saves her.

But he gets there and he's got to go through some shit in order to do it. And in this, he just kind of like, you know, just kind of walks there and gets there. And maybe it's because of time-wise. There was, this was one of the times that you do have to suspend your disbelief that he is caoed. He is out. Well, in the game, It's the same. And so that was fine, but I was like, okay.

Yeah, that happens. I mean, in the game, in the game, it's one shot. At least in this, she gives them like seven shots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought Bella Ramsey, she's phenomenal. The moment when she runs out and he's there and she, oh, my. She can't get the words out. There's, there's, she's so good.

She's so good. There's a scene that I brought, there's two things that she's done, she's done various things, but there's two things that really stand out that she hasn't had to say anything. She's just her acting. It's a gasp, and, a certain character takes themselves out and she's there and she gasps and it's so real. That's what her natural instincts. And then the other thing that she does in this episode is that moment when Joel sees her and she,

and she realizes it's him and she goes, and she just tries to speak and she can't, she just hugs him. It's so real, it's so genuine, it's so in the moment. She's just, you can't teach that. Yeah, I agree. I love that they put Troy Baker in this. original Joel in the game. Yes, yes. That was really cool.

Oh, that's right. He was a friend, yeah. I love watching the after thing. It's so good to watch. A little after, not the podcast, the little after thing. Yeah, when they talk about a little bit. Oh, yeah, like this episode, it helps explain a lot of the stuff. And for the gamers, they explain, well, we know that in the game it's like this.

Yeah. In the podcast, they go apparently go even more in depth. I'm going to start to listen to that. I suggest the Walking Dead for people still. I don't even care. Is this okay? No, no, I'm just letting them know that Walking Dead hit cannibalism hard as well. So if you liked learning about eating people, maybe you should binge.

Yeah, the show is excellent. I can't wait for the finale. I think we're all, anybody who knows what happens in the game is very curious what's going to happen in this finale. Because they either do it or they don't. Next one? So that. The last one that I want to recommend is party down because it was a show that I never saw. And I just went and binged season one and two.

and it was so fucking funny. I couldn't even believe that it's taking me this on because I love shows like this and I just kept missing it. Adam Scott. Yeah. Yeah, did you watch Hardy Down? No, I know you do. Brett loves it.

Amazing. It's just so up your alley. It's like a great comedy. It's so good. And then not only Adam Scott, I started writing down all the people I saw that I was like, what the fuck that are in one episode? This shit is crazy.

Okay, and I haven't binge the newest season yet because it's on stars. Season 3 just dropped on stars and the other one is on Hulu, so I've got to figure out a way to access that. But listen to the people in one episode. Kevin Hart. What? Jennifer Coolidge. Kristen Bell, J.K. Simmons, George DeK.K.K.K. Plaza.

Breckenmeyer, Josh Gad, Caitlin Devere as a kid. Like, there's just so many. These aren't the stars of the show. These are just people in an episode. where I was like, what the fuck? Like, this is where they got. It's the first thing that Kevin Hart did. It was an episode of this show.

Wow. What? I don't think the show gets enough credit for being like an OG comedy that was really... How long it was the first show? It was a while ago. 15 years? It must have been, yeah. Yeah, a long time ago.

Wow. That's crazy. Yeah, it's excellent. So I'm stoked to go into season three. And I'll keep you guys posted after. I'll binge it. Are you going to watch it, too? Oh, yeah.

I was so confident. Because I saw this whole thing where, like, they were launching, and I thought they were just re-releasing it. 2009 was the original. God. So, yeah. I was in high school. I was, yeah. You're in high school.

I was, uh. You're in high school. Two-year-old. Finish. Adam Scott, Camarino, Lizzie Kaplan, Megan Malawi, Jane Lynch. Speaking of Lizzie Kaplan, you're going to watch that fatal attraction show? You don't know. No?

No. Are you? I might. I like... I like... I like... I like... What's his face?

Who's the guy? Pacey. What's his name? Pacey? Oh, yeah, Pacey. From Dawson's Creek. Dawson's Creek. I didn't watch.

It's driving me nuts because I never really... Josh... Josh, what's his face? And I like Josh, what's his face? He was good in the affair. I'm gonna look it up for you right. He's driving me crazy. Joshua Jackson.

Yes, Joshua Jackson. I said it at that name. Pacey, yeah, poor guy. It's coming in April on April 30th. What, uh, Phel track. Yeah, it's going to be on Paramount Plus, so I got it. I like that Lizzie Kaplan, so maybe. Yeah, but I heard that that's what kept her from doing part down.

Oh. Because I think she's the only one of the only ones who didn't come back to me. And she's an original. And I recommend if Fleischman is in trouble to you guys. Yeah. Neither have you watched it, though. I watched the first episode. Okay.

I didn't like the ending of it. Oh. Well, there you go. Those are Roxy's picks, everybody. So make sure you check them out. Let her know in the comments section. And for you guys, make sure that you're letting us know, whether you're, any of the stories you want to chime in,

all that stuff, any suggestions, Roxy takes your suggestions, and she'll check out TV. What am I missing? Let me know. And that's really it. What do you guys think about the Star Wars News? Do you think that it's a bad thing that they got rid of Figi,

which we really didn't even go into depth with? I think personally, I think that Figey's going to wind up running Lucasfilm eventually. I do. But I think maybe this is kind of like a finish up Marvel and then take care of Lucasfilm when it's time to. And in the end, I think that other scream, excited for that. Mandalorian, anything that we talked about here today,

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