The Kristian Harloff Show - Star Wars: What Is the Next Movie? | The Big Thing

Episode Date: November 10, 2021

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What's up everybody? Welcome back to Big Thing. It's Wednesday and boy am I excited. I got buddy of mine on the show, Corey Coleman. You're from Double Toasted and I've been such a fan of this dude for a long time. We've been, we've become pals over the last couple of years. And we weren't able to do a show together, at least on our network. I've got to be on his, uh, his very successful Twitch channel many times. But this time, he is in my territory. And I'm excited to just be able to shoot the shit with Corey. It's going to be blast man. What are we going to talk about? Well, you guys. will be excited to know that we don't know. It's going to be a fun conversation and whatever the hell we want to talk about we're going to talk about. And I'm sure it'll go a lot of different places. It's Cory Coleman. It's the big thing. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's do this shit.

Welcome back. Ladies and gentlemen, too, the big thing. I'm Christian Harlow. And what? An absolute fun week it has been. And hell, this Friday, we've got a big day coming out for Star Wars fans, for Marvel fans for everybody.

You got the Disney Plus Day. I'll show the Obi-Wan trailer. We're going to show it indoor behind the scenes. Who knows what the hell are we going to show. But it's going to be a lot of shit. We're going to be talking about it. But today, lots of other things to talk about because there he is, ladies and gentlemen. It's Corey Coleman.

What up, dude? What's going on, man? How are you? Man, I'm great now that I'm here. Yeah, well, it was, we missed each other the last time you hear. You scared my wife last time you were here. I remember that. You rang the doorbell and...

Yes. I have a story about that today. You did it again? I created another one. What you did today? Look, man, I did what I was supposed to do and still messed up, man. Was she in the back this time? Man, is this the camera right here?

Oh, that's yours. So, y'all, first time I came here, I don't know where to go, and I go up to the front door. I go to his house. And so, you know, a big black man walking up in the middle of this neighborhood, this white woman's up there with a little baby, and she sees me walking up. And she did. She stopped, and she just looked. And she asked me through the window. She says, can I help you?

You know, that Karen, the kind of, can I help you? Was she Karen and my wife? No, your wife's not a Karen, but that Karen, but, you know, that kind of Karen's scariness. Oh, okay. You know, can I help you? She does, to be fair, she should do that to a big, tall, red-headed white guy. If it came over because she just doesn't like when people come to the four porch, if she doesn't know them.

Man, she's a mother. She should do that to everybody. Right. You know, so I'm not, I'm not making it a black thing. I'm sure the blackness didn't help. It's my little extra. It added to the situation. Yeah, but I said, all right, well, next time I come over, I know to just not go to the house.

Right. Go around the side. Go around the side. Christian, I went around the side. And I start rattling the door. And the first thing I hear, can I help you? I planned her that this time. I said, you know what?

I know Corey's going to be here at 1130. Do me a favor. Stand right there. and wait for him. And I want you to, this time you scare him before you even see it. Oh, my God. That's amazing. She scares me, man.

She scares me too. And it didn't help that, because I thought, well, since you told me to go around the side and you knew what was coming, you left it open. Yeah. So you really did sabotage me because I go over there and it's locked. So I'm just, she locked because she was probably doing it. She just went to the grocery store. So she was probably on the side there. Okay.

And she had just putting everything back in there. And I had left it open for you. But when she came through, she probably shut it again. I think it's got to be a thing that happens every time you're on the show now. Yeah. Yeah. Next time I'm coming through the chimney.

You should. And I'll put, next time I'll just put the four-year-old there. Although the four-year-old probably be like, what's up? Black Santa, Daddy. Next time I'm just climbing to the bed at the window, man. That's it.

It's Christian here? You might as well. You know me. Well, that's great. She had a great sense of humor about it. She's got a great sense of humor. Otherwise, I don't know. know if I would have been able to survive.

Because she's, she's great. She does a lot, probably for me, and I'm very happy that I'm happy that happened because now it's a new thing that I think it has to happen every time you're on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, next, yeah, exactly.

Where will I strike next? That's what, you just have, next time Martin should be on it, he should, like, boost you over the fence. And you just kind of fall down. You're like, hey, it's me. She's like, Corey. I'll tell you, though, I don't feel for your safety, man.

No, with her around. No, no, she's, pit bull. No, she's ready. She's ready to beat somebody's ass, man. And you know what it is about her that I really even love more. So it was like, I won't go into the full drama of it. You know, but like I have a 10-year-old. So 10-year-old girl.

So when she gets into girls being girls and this drama at school, my wife got involved in a situation recently. Me, like I fear I'd be one of the sopranos on the side of the soccer field. Hey, ref, what are you doing? My wife's very calm and diplomatic, but she's like that parent that like when she doesn't get involved but when she does, it's like, oh shit, because she'll handle things diplomatic

and she's like, and she's talking to a 10 year old. No, no, no. What you said to her was this and maybe that's not the best way to do it and the 10 year old starts rethink in their life. And that's what she's got like that real kind of skis got her head on her shoulders. Meanwhile, you know, it's like, I don't mind

the screaming guy in the Star Wars shirt. He's done that before and got himself a trouble on collider. So, yeah, so that's, uh, it's, yeah, your wife is the, like, she's the cold scary mob person, man. Yeah, right. She is. She's just like, it's like, you send me out to do the hit. She, she executes. She orders the hit.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. She's the one that tells you that you messed up. That's it. But she tells you in a really cool way. It's, it's very true. Can I help you? Yeah.

Yeah. That's how she did. And she did not panic. She didn't scream. She actually put that. Can I help you? And that's what scared me. It's the name of her book.

It's called, kind of help her. No matter what, if it's me, it's a kid, it's you. It's kind of help you. So what's up, man? So what are you in town? You just, are you doing a show? Yeah, we're doing a show, doing a show tonight. Doing a show first time in Englewood.

Oh, okay. How's Englewood? I, you know what? I used to go to my buddy, you lived there over a while. Always had a great time. Obviously, you always think about like the movies and everything for back to the day. I always had pleasant experiences in Englewood, love Englewood. But where are you doing the show?

Where? It's a place called the Miracle Theater. Okay. Yeah. We're going to do a show tonight at the Miracle Theater. By the way, this is a great warm-up being here for that. Yeah. Yeah, and usually I used to book shows myself, live shows here,

and then we have a booking agency now. So they just throw us in Englewood, and I thought, that's kind of far. Yeah. No, it's a good spot, too, but I messed up. So you guys did a show in New York. Yeah. So our reigning movie trivia Shmodeau champion, right?

a lady named Marisol McKee. She's the first woman, first African American to ever win the singles championship. And she did it this year. She's a massive fan of double-hosted. And she's in New York? She's in Philadelphia.

But right before she won the championship, the night before, she didn't come out the night before because she went to your show. And she went, so her and Adam Collins, who is also one of our competitors, they were like,

I'm going to, we're going to the double-toasted show. They're like massive fans. And I was like, let me reach out to Corey Martin and I'll tell them they'll come out and probably meet you and say hello to you too if I if I just didn't get a chance to do it. I'm sure we said hello anyway. I'm sure you did but like if I would have told you hey my my friends are coming by you know it's like one of those things.

Oh yeah we would have a bomb drinks and food. Yeah yeah exactly right right so but they like and I understood why I'm like they're like massive fans that show was great they raved about the show they got did they have a good time they had a great time they loved it. Oh great then man yeah no that's good that was our first show since uh the the pandemic, so I didn't know how that was. Same, we did a show in Brooklyn in October, which was our first show. How did that go? Went great.

Amarisol, who I just mentioned, was headlined the event. And she did, she played, she held the championship up. And it was, it was phenomenal. It was really great. But, all right, so you're in, you're in town? You're doing this show in Inglewood? You're doing one show while you're here? Yeah, just one show right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, like, this is our first time doing an actual tour. That's cool. You know, shows after shows, like we do back to back and floor. and whatnot. Two weeks will be in Chicago. So it's great, man. Yeah, no, it's good.

It's the first time. So I don't know how successful it will be. You know, we usually do scattered shows throughout the year so we can like really push, you know, do a big marketing push for one city. So, you know, I don't know. It's kind of, it's kind of fun and scary at the same time. It is. But, you know, we just love being out there.

It is because you put, you put, because you're, we're entertainers first and foremost, right? So that's the thing. We just want to make people laugh. We want to, we want to get the kind of our opinions out there. Plus, you guys, you guys have just such a great chemistry. Is it just the two, you and Martin doing the shows? I bring out a third person.

And then my wife, she's in it. Oh, okay, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She made sure to tell me I'm in the show. What's the, is the show basically what you guys do on Twitch? Yeah, it's more of a comedy show this time. Great. Like, it is, it's more of a comedy show with, with media that we bring with this show.

I got to come watch it, man. Well, I got to, what, so you guys are going to be doing a show pretty soon, right? December 4th, we're going to be downtown L.A. We're doing, like, our big WrestleMania. you at the end of the year and it's like, we found out, and this is the wrong,

I'm the wrong person to tell this. The theater wrote in and say, hey, if you guys want for special ice, we have rockets. They shoot rockets up for one of the competitors. I was like, yeah,

rockets. And the producers is like, do we have to use? You should have shadowed that first before it got to me. Yeah, yeah. We got rockets.

We got rockets, fog machines, wrestlers coming out and doing things. It's going to be massive. You'd be stupid to turn down rockets, man. Stupid. Yeah. Yeah, what are you talking about?

I mean, just don't white snake the place and burn it down. And even if you do, it's pressed. Yeah, exactly, man. Hey, as long as you come out alive, it's okay. That's it. Hey, we made it. Burned the place down. But hey, you've heard of the Shmo now, right.

As long as you rise from the charred rubble, yeah, man. That's right. Well, congratulations on that, man. Yeah, we're excited for it. So that's downtown. That's L.A. It's December 4th. But you guys are, so you're in, you're in, you're in, Englandwood today, which is going to be, where's

Saturday? Today? Today's Friday. Today's Friday. Right. done the show when this when this airs yeah so all right so all right so this is you just did a show here as far as and so where are you where are you next after this end of the tour again i'm sorry you're going to chicago is Chicago in a couple weeks november 18 okay being Florida

January uh in doing back to back there Miami and uh in Orlando yeah and rounding things off in Texas I'm gonna be in Dallas on February 18th this is the smell of the leftover tuna fish sandwich you left in your lunchbox over the weekend in a wimpy trash bag Whippy, wimpy, wimpy, whippy! Bluh! And this is the smell of that same sandwich in a hefty ultra-strong trash bag. Hefty, hefty, hefty! Smell the difference?

Hefty ultra-strong has arm and hammer with continuous odor control, so no matter what's inside your trash. Hmm, you can stay one step ahead of stinky. And for bigger jobs, try the superior strength of hefty large black bags. We might be in the area at the same time. Which, in Dallas? Yeah, we're going to do... doing Dallas and then we're going to do Houston back to back in February, I think.

Man, well, you know what? If there's any way our paths can cross. We should do it. Yeah. I wanted everybody know that I'm so giddy to be here. This is one of the guys that I would see all the time on the internet and never thought that he would see me worthy enough to be on his show. It's so funny you say that because I felt the same exact way.

Because when we started doing YouTube for sure, there was only like a few people out there and spill was like one of the big ones, right? And so I remember always going, oh, man, I got to, I got to try to meet these guys. And I met you once at a Comic-Con. And now knowing you, you were just kind of busy doing something like, I was like, oh, he didn't really want to be talking to me. And I know that it wasn't the case. But it's just when you put things into your own head, you know, and you're walking.

And then after work, I don't even remember the first time we kind of started working together. I think there is, whatever it might be. We started working together like a collider doing, you guys came in to do the schmo down. Exactly. I think that was it, man. Is it the first time? Yeah, we came to do this show down, which we would just honor to be there. I could have swore we were going to lose.

So, and that was just pure luck because we're terrible at trivia, as shown when we came to Houston. But you had fun every single time. Oh, it's all about, it's just fun to be there, man. Again, it's just an honor to us to be there and having, you having us on. Well, same, man. And I think that's funny is that we, even though that match, you guys feel, you know, you didn't do very well on that. I feel that that's where we became closer because we hung out of the bar. We had some drinks afterwards and we just got bullshit.

Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, no, I didn't want to talk to you, but I didn't want to be one of those people while you're trying to like talk to your people and your fans and whatnot. I didn't want to bother you, but I thought it was real cool. You came over and say, hey, let's just sit down and have a drink really. Yeah, man. Like I said, I was been a massive fan of you guys for a long time. I think you guys are a riot and it's just so fun to listen to you both because it's

reminiscent to both myself and Mark, like when we started, right? It's just like two buddies talking and you can, you're able to be yourself and you've got such a good wit, know how to maneuver when you're talking to your friends and know, you know, his sense of humor. He knows yours. He knows how to set you up. You know how to set you up. And it's just this, if you haven't checked out double toasted, you really should. It's such a great fun show.

And these guys just, they don't give a shit. That's my favorite. You really are. We probably should at some point about some things, at least, a couple of things. When I say you don't give your shit, I'm talking about, you don't care what people think. You know what I mean? Oh, no, completely. That's what I'm saying.

Like, you care about what you're talking about. You don't, you just don't. It's like you go with what you're feeling and how you're feeling. And I think to me that's the kind of raw honest thing. I think sometimes people get too consumed, especially today and with how the world is. They get too consumed about who's going to like what, who's going to say this, who's going to care if I say this, who's going to tweet about me if I say that? It's a different time, man.

It really, you know, I mean, I didn't care that much before, but everybody says that, but you always find that one asshole that just you read a comment. You're like, I'm going to tell it. It's the loudest. Because they're the loudest, because they, you know what, they're the loudest, and they say the dumbest things. They, you know, and sometimes you just feel like I just got to, I got to tell them something because this is so stupid. I got to set them straight. And you feel like you didn't know sometimes still too, because what does it do?

Because usually those people, Corey, they're really stupid. And that's what it is. But it just, I was telling people this on our show recently. I said, you know, it was only until probably about three weeks ago that I really understood like, man, I really don't give a shit with what people who I don't know. what they think because it's not because of all of a sudden i had some big revelation i was reading about that couch guy situation you remember this oh what's this tell me so it was uh this this this this couple man on uh it was a ticot video i think oh oh and the guy can't and thought his wife his girlfriend was was was he thought he was fooling around with somebody else or something

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah everybody wants to be a detective now online so so they the guy got up and i guess he had his his reaction to his girlfriend being in there and he just He was very just kind of quiet. He's like, oh, my God, good to see you. But then, of course, the online sleuth. They said, oh, but wait a minute, here's a clue. He just dropped his phone all of a sudden. Oh, wait a minute.

He sat on the couch with two girls and where were his hands. And, you know, this couple that were just trying to have a nice moment online, all of a sudden turned into, girl, that motherfucker is cheating. Right. You know, and they wouldn't leave them alone. And these people are like, wow, we, we, we, everything is fine with us. We're cool. No need for anybody to keep going in.

And people like, no, no, no, but hold on. We need to really convince her to leave him. Right. And so it occurred to me like, and now they were saying, we just want to be left alone. These people, they just, and I thought, none of these people you know, if you love each other, none of this should mean shit to you at all. Right.

And I just saw how these people were trying to destroy this couple. And in a way they were inside really hurting them. And I just thought, like, I can't let that happen to me. Right. You know, I can't let people I know just kind of just drive me to like just be insecure about myself. So it was, yeah. So there you go. It was kind of like an eye-opening thing for sure.

I mean, to see it is, it totally goes back to like I talk about this. My dad, right? He always used to tell me he's like, it's this human nature thing where people, even if they don't realize it, they want you to fail. Like they want you to fail. Like they want you to fail. It's human nature. We always want to see the people. It's always about the big story.

Oh, they made it. And then once they make it, it's like, when are they going to fall? And then they fall. When they're going to come back? You know, it happens. It's just human nature, right? Think about like when Tyson was on the top of his game. Everyone's like Tyson Tyson Tyson Tyson he's gonna and then when Buster Douglas beat him

Everyone's like ah see he had it come on Mike wasn't paying attention And Mike comes back out of prison everyone's like oh shit Mike's back You know it's like it's the same shit with and you've got to make people realize who you think you do But you don't the people on the other side of that computer television are human beings But they don't see that they see the guy on the couch and they see the girl and all they see is a TikTok video And they don't see people it's no you exactly right and it's funny because I think people they just need something to constantly root for. Right.

So even if it's against you. So, you know, when you're down, they're like, we want you to come up. Right. Well, he made it. I ain't, I ain't, what do I have now? I got on the root for anymore. Oh, I know. I want you to fail because I need something to root for it now.

It's crazy. I don't like that. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, I get it's just human nature. You know, there always has to be something there for people to, like, kind of grasp on to. Let me ask you something. Yes, sir. So has there been a person that has just been very,

very vocal, you know, and just been very visible about them wanting you to fail. Sure. I mean, yeah, sure. I mean, there's been, I think, various times there have been people that, but it's, you know, there's one, like you said, there's always people that start to stay now because you see their name a lot, you see the handle a lot. But what I've done recently, especially on this channel, and I don't know if it's because it's the dad of me and I'm just getting, or to quote Danny Glover getting too old for

this shit, right? And it's like, I'm sitting around reading some of this stuff. And when it comes in now, because I respond to every comment that comes in now, because what I, what I wanted to do, I wanted to take this channel and kind of go back to when, like, when we first started doing YouTube back in 2007, 2008. Yeah. And back then, it was really about community. And it was really about getting people involved, having the people involved, and making them feel like, because the whole allure of YouTube was this isn't normal television. Like on television, you turn on, you watch a show that you like. so-and-so ain't going to respond back to you.

They don't know you there. But on YouTube, they know you there. And they're talking to you. And people liked that. And somewhere along the way, that got lost, right? And I think some people did it. Some people didn't do it. We certainly, it became a thing.

We're like, okay, we'll respond whenever in Schmo's when we started. That's all we did. So I'm like, well, my idea and my thought is then for those comments of people that, like you said, when people are coming in and saying those types of things, back when there was Collider or Schmo's, it would register. stir my head and I would see it. And I'd be like, oh, it's that guy. It's this and it's that.

And people like, well, my brother passed away, right? I got people, there's one particular guy that made like 15 different counts of my brother's name and like really like horrific things and made accounts of it and did like all these things and would send me stuff from those accounts, right? Why? Look, the other part of that to go off of that, the other part of that is I don't know, not that I condone anything of this is that what this person did, but I don't know how sad of a life that person has.

Exactly. I don't know what that person, I don't know if that person's been abused. I don't know if that person has had like really rough things in their life. I don't know if that person, you know, almost like whatever might have happened to them. So as angry as it can get you,

there's another part of your brain that goes, I don't know what's going on there. Like I'm only the only thing that I can do there. I can, like there was one time that there was someone that kind of came after a few of us Clyder and we put a detective on them. And they shut it down quick. they brought him to jail.

Oh, really? Yeah, some, and then. Anybody I know? No. Okay. No one you know. No. But no, it was someone in a different place.

But then, again, I don't know what this person was going through. I don't know. So I stopped them. And this channel, because I would get, when I was on Shmose and when I was on Collider, I would, the comedian in me, when I used to be on stage with a comedy store, someone heckles out and says something. And I would go, you know, I buy. blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I would get the audience to laugh with me.

And that crowd, which in my head at the time is a large crowd of 100, 200 people, they're all on the same page. They're laughing on a plane with it. But if I yell and scream and go after somebody in that comedic, not everybody A sees as a comedic, someone else sees it as whatever it might be. And then I also find myself going after voices that you can't connect to. And I'm still, I'm doing the same thing that they're doing. I'm yelling at a voice behind of a computer. Exactly. As opposed to someone who's in front of me that if you comment at my show and,

a comedy show, we can have a fun interaction and we can play. Yeah. So what I've done now in this channel is I respond to people and the conversations have been pleasant, even when they don't, we're doing like rewatch series of like Spider-Man and Star Wars and we've been having these back and forth and conversations have been pleasant. And if somebody comes in to do like, you know, stupid shit, you just hide them from the channel. You don't respond to them because it's like I don't, I would rather lose somebody. And if you're a subscriber, then I lost you.

But I don't, I don't have time for it. No, exactly. I've learned how to actually take that kind of stuff and stride and actually have fun with it. You know, we do Twitch now and, you know, we still do YouTube, of course, and some other platforms. But, you know, Twitch is a totally different thing where, you know, and you can do this on YouTube. Also, we just stream live on Twitch and, you know, the comments are there for people to see. You know, just like a lot of people, we've been hate rated, you know, which I ignored. But then sometimes, you know what, I, if you're going to be a troll,

I admire you be a creative. If you're creative, if you're creating, if you're creating, making me laugh. If you, yeah,

somebody put up, somebody took, took the comment section. And as it scrolled up, it was, and they did with this, he did this with characters in, and,

and, and, and, and, and, and, and I formed a huge dick. And I was like,

and I stopped, and everybody else, don't, don't, don't say anything about that. I was like, well, we can't show this, of course,

but I'm like, damn, that's pretty good, you know? That was even a swast that came up and I was like, that's amazing, the spacing and the accuracy. I was like, I'm not condoning this, but I kind of admire this in a way. Right. On how, and you're saying, because you're putting together the effort, like,

sometimes I can't remember what someone wrote recently and they wrote something about, oh, the reaction, I did a reaction to, because I'm, I'm not like the real rejects and I'm not like, you know, these guys that, or Tyrone Magnus guys who react in the videos, like they're, they've been doing this shit for a long time. If something comes out that I really want to see, I put on the camera and I watch the thing and then I get my thoughts and analyze it, right? So most part people seem to be enjoying it.

There was one guy, I did the boba fed one. And I was a couple different times. I'm going, all right, you know, there you go. And I did it. Some guy goes, boring fucking reaction. Left my ass off. I thought it was hysterical. I said, I was like, you know,

isn't that what reaction is? I'm like, what do you want me to go? Hey, yeah. Whoa! Hey! Hey! You son of a bitch! I'm not boring.

I'm exciting. Right. But even watching the trailer, it's like, you know, you're sitting there and you start watching. Like, oh, hey, here go, guys. I'm going to, I'm reacting to the Clifford, the big red dog trailer. Here we go. Oh, he's red. Yeah.

He's still red. Oh, look this. He's big. He's big. Huge now. Whoa. It's like, I don't do that. It's just not what I do.

I don't do that either. In fact, I'll wait a day later after everybody's done it and then we put up a video. It's not the best timing all the time. If we can hit it that day, that's fine. But I do, I like, I'm like you. I like stuff you like. I like analyzing and I like writing humor behind me. Yes.

So, but I like having a good balance of like, all right, let's talk about this seriously. But there's jokes here. And I really would like to think about those jokes before I just kind of just get on there and just start running my mouth. Yeah. You know, it might be because I'm just, I can think on my feet pretty well, but I look at some people who do reactions.

Because I don't want to seem like I'm disrespecting these people. I look at these people. I'm like, damn, they can really think on their feet at this moment. And they're very good at that. I don't think I'm the best at, like, looking at something at the moment and just popping them off. You want to let it sit for a little bit. Yeah, you're marrying.

Yeah, yeah. You know, so much respect to those people that do that. But yeah, man, I get it. You know, I, well, I got it, I have to admit, I do cuss people out in our chat sometimes, but it's not like I'm doing it because I'm angry at, you know, we have this kind of. You're going for the laugh.

Well, we're going for the laugh, and plus we kind of have a community where I tell people, hey, look, you know, I don't consider you guys like fans or anything. I'm like, this is a community. We're all friends here. Yeah, yeah. And some people even like to use the word family. And if you are, if you have a, look, if you have a good friend or if you have a family member,

you're not going to go forever without arguing with them. That's right. Are yelling at them. That's right. So there's people who, they don't go away. They don't, they don't unsubscribe and, you know, go away in a huff and a pup. They actually, they're like, all right, we argued. You know, yeah, you cussed me out.

I cussed you out. And afterwards we're like, all right, we're cool, man. We got that out of our system. Fine. Isn't it a matter of how we do it, too, right? It's a matter of like it because like you said, if you know someone that has been around for a bit inside of the community, and you're like, man, you're being a stupid ass. And it's like here's why and blah, and you have exactly what you're saying.

It's like with the cameras off and it's just a buddy of yours. Like how many times you got into an argument with a buddy of yours? And they'd be like, all right, let's kick back. Let's figure it out and let's move on. But it's just a matter of what is said and how it's said and presentation. Like the other thing, we just did the Last Jedi rewatch, right? So you know how device of that movie's been. Oh, yeah.

So Riley came on. Riley loves that movie. It, to me, gets worse and worse every time I watched a fucking thing. And so we started talking about it. But it was just, he's saying the same thing. He's like, I don't agree with anything you're saying us. I don't agree with anything you're saying. But we just had a great conversation about it.

He gave his points. I gave mine. And I think you can have conversations of people without throwing rocks at him. And that's what Twitter does, man. Twitter is just throwing rocks. Oh, that's definitely. Yeah, I don't get on arguments on Twitter with you. You're smart.

Smart. Same with me. I try to put out positive things. Hey, look at this. Cat or something. You know, when I'm out there. That's a big pussy. Now you get it.

There you go. Let's all have a good laugh, man. Yeah, you know, I'm learning. It's funny because as much as I might just get into like these little fun arguments with people online. Yeah. I have learned to be a little more, I don't know what the word is, tolerant or learning how to handle disagreements better because I I mean I don't know again it just dawned to me one day like man he's

he's a movie right you know I was like I'm not what was it that I was I was talking to Martin about something I said we would wow what we disagreed on we disagreed on something man I think it might it might have been the movie cats or something I just cats who like cats well what happened was Martin one day he so when we did the review for cats yeah Martin has a way where when something he feels like he's being attacked he wants to defend. Right. So Katz is being attacked

and he's like, it's not so bad. Cats is fine. He's the only person has ever defended cats. And then he did it the day of the week the movies coming out. He's like these, these cats there,

why people, they look fine, they're not scary. You get, if you just open your mind, you can get used to it. And then I was like, well,

that's cool, man. You know, I'm not going to fight with you of a fucking cat, sorry, you know. I wish you would. Yeah,

I'm not, like, maybe that was the one I should have. So in the shut up. Yeah. What fuck is wrong with you? Martin, wake off. What is Judy Dutch?

Why is Judy Dutch doing this? But it was funny because about three months later, out of the blue, I was like, I was like, well, yeah, Martin, you know, I learned how to, I brought this up again. I was like, I learned how to be more tolerant, acceptable of other people's opinions. Like, I mean, you know, maybe I wasn't as crazy about cats as you were. And I was like, I fucking hate cats. Cats? And I said, are you actually, damn, are you, is dementia kicking?

or you're schizophrenic. Because I said, because he gave the movie, like, we have a rating system, y'all. You know, we have better than sex, full price, matinee rental and some of a bullshit. But anyway, so he rated it like, he said, oh, you know, I always say that this is a matinee. It's not so bad.

And then when I talked to him again, I was like, so, do you even remember what you gave this? Man, fuck that movie, man. That's what I gave it. I was like, I had, somebody had to play the clip again to show. What did he say when he saw the clip? He's like, I don't think that's me.

You defaked that, didn't you? Oh, that's a minute. Yeah, see that's, is he, so does he do the contrarian thing sometimes? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, whenever something's like Battlefield Earth when it came out, that's a big joke with us, like, Battlefield Earth, because he'll admit now, he's like, well, man, at the time, you know, I saw this guy and he was just talking about how terrible it was, and I was just and instead of saying, you know, fuck this movie, he was like, yeah, and this guy was just

going off in this movie. I was like, to hell with this guy. What does he think he is? Battlefield Earth was so bad. I saw the front, I punched my friend. he apologized. Sorry about that. I was like,

it's okay. And not to talk bad about Martin. No, I'm not even making it. I'm just saying like today, you know, where there was a time like I, and I'm telling you about this myself,

there was a time I would probably disagree with Martin. Yeah. And I would just, and I would play it up for the show. You know, like, you like that. That's the bit.

You're stupid. You're crazy. And I just, and now today I kind of pull back and I'm just kind of like, there's other ways to get a laugh. There's other ways to entertain. I'm very, I actually.

like the disagreement. I'm like, hey, man, you know, when you disagree on something, I say, hey, everybody likes what they like. Right. You know, even if it's a movie, the 90% of the public thinks is terrible. If you like it, they're movies. It's all about opinion. That's right.

That's honestly what we talked about for a great length for that Last Jedi thing. It's just like, I don't understand why. And I think it has a lot to do with what's going on in the world in general, how like volatile the world is, just in general, right? Because no matter what it is, people want to yell and scream at each other. social media has not helped at all because it's very similar to what you and I are talking about that you're not really attached to human interaction

you don't see anybody and you just scream out you feel like you can say you feel like you can say things to people that if you said it to them in person you get slapped in the mouth right? Yeah, yeah. That's the thing. And so, but, and movies just has become one of those things. And we equated Last Jedi to like being either a hardcore Republican

or being a hardcore liberal, right? And it's like this, because you're not going to convince someone else on either side of this argument that your take is the right take. No matter how much you think it's the right take, you're not going to convince them because they're so sold on it. And everyone inside of their same pocket is, yet we have to be the ones that are right or we have to tell you why you're wrong. And if you're not on our side, then you're the enemy and we're going to tell you exactly why. And we're not going to do it the right way. We're going to take a picture of my balls and send it to you and tell you exactly why you're wrong. No, you, you know what?

I'll hold that thought right there. I want to continue on that thought. I just want to let you know that I want to talk Star Wars with you. Yeah, please. Let's do it. But before we do that, you know, I completely agree with you. When you talk about hardcore Republicans and hardcore liberals and whatnot, that's one of the things that kind of made me realize movies,

I don't get to go that crazy about there, man, because there's a lot of other stuff. I'm like, and even when those things come around, I'm like, you know what? I didn't react like I thought it was going to react. I said on our shows, you know, when Trump was in and, you know, things were going, well, they're still going crazy, but I would tell people, you know, if I run to a Trump supporter, I'm going to let them know how I feel about things.

I remember I went and got my vaccination shot and I went straight to a bar right after there. And it was in this small town where across the street from the vaccination place, there's Trump flags and everything. That's a Trump loving place. I go to this bar and bars full of Trump supporters. but we get to talking. Of course, look, I don't talk politics.

There's something about the Trump's report. They want to let you know exactly where they're from. They're almost like, I thought they want to start an argument. But we start talking. They start buying me drinks. We talked about whatever we had to talk about, and we didn't get into a fight. We disagreed.

Nobody went crazy. Everybody actually respected each other. They got me a little drunk. And at first I thought they were trying to lynch my ass at first. you know, you know, he's going to lynch me with alcohol. Can I help you? Yeah, exactly. I was waiting for that to happen.

Can I help you, sir? Yeah, you know, these people are much more agreeable with whiskey. Yeah. So, you know. So, yeah, man, you know, I, I thought that, wow, you know, something, none of us probably walked away, 100% being turned over to the other side. Right. But I was like, man, you know, if you just have, if you get some people a little alcohol and have them sit down and have them actually put them in an environment where everything is cool and everybody has mutual respect, I've learned that, man, and a lot of people are not going to like this answer, but I learned to actually respect these people. I don't agree with them. Sometimes I think they're harmfully wrong. Right. But Corey, it's exactly what you're saying, though, dude. You had actual interaction with people. like you were talking to people face to face.

The human beings, man. But that's the thing that I don't think, and I say it all the time. The people who watch these shows are sick of hearing me. I think social media has been the downfall of us completely because of that detachment from, because if you can say something, because the thing is,

if I say something very hateful to you right now, something to the core, I'll see your reaction to that. And you would hope that a lot of people, that if I saw the reaction of the hurt that I caused you, I would feel bad. If I said it to you on Twitter, I don't see how you react to it.

In my head, man, maybe just laughed it off. Maybe it made you devastatingly sad and it ruined your day for the whole day, but I'll see it. So I'm detached from it. And that's what social media is. And that's why all this stuff like that continues to happen.

Like, same with you. On Twitter, I'll tweet a few things of like maybe happy birthday to a friend, whatever tweet out where we're going to be. I use it for social. media like for for promotion right i don't get into that stuff anymore man like when people are talking about like arguing about movies and things and that same same philosophy someone tweets out about

here's a perfect example so the when the snider cut was happening back into the and i was on collider someone had asked me about it and i was so tired of hearing about all this stuff and i just i don't care oh my god the snider verse like really made me here because i said i don't care then when it came to when I started Sien, before there was even mention of there, they were actually doing it. I said, I actually would really want to see the Snyder cut. I said, I think that it would make a lot of sense to do it. I think you should, and I have from when I first started Asian,

I said how much I really wanted to see it. And but once it started coming, I was like, oh, you're one of the ones never thought it was going to happen. I'm like, that's not true. And then part two is when I finally saw it, I was like, it's, I really, I don't know if you liked it or another. I liked it. I loved it.

I thought it was great. And then there were still people today. who tweet things and go like, oh, the Snyderverse should happen. And I'm like, I agree. Like, you're not, you're not talking to someone who doesn't want it. You just, but we, we base these things on how we, like, and whether it's inside of our own media that's happening. The film, the sphere, whatever the fuck they call it, the movie sphere was stupid bullshit film Twitter. Everyone just has a name for everything.

That's one of the problem, too. Just me nuts. Everybody has to have a name. We're, we're film Twitter. It's like, no, you're a bunch of fucks who watch movies like me. Yeah, you're just another gang. You just watch, you're a gang that watches movies and you're like, and that's why the thing is to,

there are to me and I brought this up. When you and I, and I don't know how if you feel, and I don't mean to offend you if you feel this way, but I feel like you're going to be on my side. I don't believe you and I go see a movie. I don't think that we're critics. I think we're dudes who watch movies. I don't like that word critic.

We're not critics. William Bibiani is a guy that we work with. He's a professional film critic. He analyzes it. Like you said when you sit back and you, you write your jokes and you think you sit. That's what he does. I talk about movies and I just,

I'll just review a movie and simply, that's what the definition of a critic is. I mean, I guess, but I'm not a critic. Like I'm just the definition of what a critic is, but everybody who reviews movies thinks they're a critic. Everyone who's on Twitter thinks that they know so much about their film

expert. It's a fucking movie. Yeah, exactly. I, you know, I'm an entertainer, man. That's it.

You know, I don't, because I'm not here to convince anybody. Right. Honestly, I never was. I played that role because I thought people wanted to hear that. Right. But I'm not, I'm not here to convince anybody. I tell,

and I hate it, I hate it when people actually, when they feel that way, when they say, you know what, I don't do anything until you say that. I was like, don't,

nah, don't do that, man. Yeah, I respect that you like what I'm saying about things, but like, flattering, yeah,

but make your, but make your own thoughts and have some fun. I would hate for somebody to miss something that they possibly would like. Right. Because they were listening to my crazy ass telling them, and giving them my opinion. That's great that you say that because I just thought about this recently. My mother-in-law who likes all this goofy shit, right?

But she likes a lot of stuff that's good, too. But what was the show? Oh, Succession, which is a great show that everyone loves. It keeps coming up, man. I got to watch this. I haven't seen it yet either, but everyone loves this show, right? I watched the first two episodes, loved it. I thought it was really detailed.

My wife gets bored with everything, right? She gets bored with everything. That's my wife. Yeah, she's bored with everything. So she tells my mother-in-law, don't watch it, you know, it's boring. And I'm going, this is perfect for her. She should make the decision on herself and watch it.

But she listened to my wife and never watched it. And I was like, I know she's going to like this. She likes this kind of shit. And so, but it's funny you say that because there are people. I wonder like how maybe there was, maybe there's a movie because think about certain movies in your life. that movies are very influential. We say they did just movies,

but there's portions of movies and memories we've had with people that we've seen movies that have influenced our lives. And ideas have formed, creative ideas and things and emotions that we've had. Imagine one of those most emotional moments that you've ever had in your life about a movie. You didn't see it because someone told you not to see it.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I'm actually trying to think of something where I saw it later and I thought, man, I'm glad I saw this. Yeah. Because if I hadn't, then I would, I would have missed out on something I really enjoy.

I'm trying to think, you know, because there are movies that I like that a lot of people hate, a lot of people. And I'm just glad I just never listen to those. You know, I'll tell you one movie I really like. Give an example. What you got? It's a terrible movie. Some people haven't even heard of it.

But I had to actually, this is where I said, do I need to listen to people or do I actually really enjoy this? The Beatles made a movie called Magical Mystery Tour. Okay. It's a terrible movie. It is. It's a terrible movie. For a long time, I said, should I be that person that said, it's the Beatles and Beatles fans? No, if they say it's terrible, it's terrible.

But if I, at this moment, should I openly say, admit, I'd like this? And so that was one of the big barometers where I was like, all right, that's one of the tests where I said, okay, I'm going to openly say I like something where people hate this overall. And that's when I learned that, like, you know. Was there a big backlash for that one? No, nobody cares about that. No, no.

I was going to say. But there are certain circles where people will tell you, like, if they know the movie, they just like, oh, you like that, you like that. You know, and you know what? Maybe that's a safe one because nobody cares about that. But still, I know what you're saying, though. Well, recently, maybe the one recently that I said I like that a lot of people are really jumping down on is, and you're probably one of those people that don't like it either. I like the internals. I love the Eternals.

Did you see? Loved it. We're on a, we're on a, we're on a, me, you and Coy, Jandro are on a small island. We're on that island with Luke and Last Jedi right now because I thought what. Chloe Schaude did with that film. Beautiful. People said it was formulaic. I thought it was the most different Marvel film.

That's why I liked it. I liked it. And it was, it's funny because I had seen Dune, I think, a couple weeks later, which is, they're similar. They're similar as far as the scale of it and the direction of it and the overall, like the long shots, the music. I loved, I loved Eternals. We actually have our spoiler, where we just released our spoiler review this past Monday

when this comes up. Yeah, we might do one when I get back into town on Sunday. I really like that movie, man. I know there's a lot of people who just don't like that film. And I, and I, and, you know, but, and again, that was one where I started to get into defensive mode at first. Right. And I was just like, hold on, hold on. You know, I can understand.

And if I really look closely, I'd see what people are not liking. Sure. You know, I'm not at this point where it's like, well, you got, y'all just want to complain about something. And you just, you just, you just think this is woke and you want to complain about that. And there are some people who are. But I ignore that shit now because that's, because the problem is, now with that is that that's what people say about everything now. And it's like, yeah, it's like, do I think sometimes, and I'd love to get to this conversation

to you with you as well. So I think that sometimes the problem is I think that when sometimes I think studios and I think that people, when there's a movement of that should be happening, go on, they go, oh, well, let's capitalize on that and let's put so-and-so in the movie so we don't get in trouble and we do that. Yeah. I think people do that, do that. And I think that that's wrong, because it's not genuine.

and I think people can see it and I think that when they do that it can hurt the product but you can't call that on everything you can't say that on everything when it happens like when Chloe Zhao is doing she's a brilliant filmmaker who has done things

and if that's the story she wants to tell she has earned the right to do it and I don't see it inside of that story and I think that that's what people like the Masters of the Universe thing people called it out people people say that it's it's like it's always because it's politics

it's where the world is today, you can't separate your entertainment because politics has to seep into it. That's just, that's just what happens. No, I certainly agree. There are certain things that just people lay down just to, you know, they just generalize terms that people use to just more or less attack instead of getting into a discussion about. You know, it happened with a lot of things, you know, most recently with the Dave Chappelle thing. Right.

You know, woke is what you call something when you just, it just means you just don't agree but he don't like it. Counsel culture. Council culture is something that you throw down and there's a lot of things that come with council culture. You disagree. Council culture is something you yell to avoid.

Sometimes accountability. Right. You know, are you just, it's a way to just say that, you know, to throw down, you throw down the word cancel culture, or the words cancel culture, sometimes to avoid, I just had it in my head

while I was saying here, the word I was looking for, or, oh, consequence. Sure. You know, it's like instead of, you know, when you say certain things, I myself, I don't want to, I don't want to counsel anybody

unless you just really do something completely, just vile and stupid. I don't want to see anybody fail. I think, yeah, people have a right to say what they want to say, but, you know, we're losing sight of the fact that there are consequences to things. it's true but I think it's a slippery slope on both sides of it too right because there is a side of it where

I agree with you that there are times and people just will throw it out there because like oh that's what you're trying to do but I do think it goes back into that Twitter side of it also is that if something isn't like look everybody in their life has done something like stupid and and whether throughout your life when you're a teenager or whatever it might be and someone brings that up and then they at the moment don't have anything out there. they start throwing rocks at that person on Twitter and then everyone starts piling up, that is a problem that it continues to happen. But going off your point, then there are people who really have done despicable shit

that should be called out on it. But I think it's a balance because, again, going back to social media, social media has been a thing where people just pile up on somebody and call people names and say things like, why are you going after that person? Because he's going after him. Yeah, yeah.

That happens. Well, you know, because, well, people don't look at things as, you know, an individual situation. Right. You know, we don't look at things in a case-by-case situation. You want to one-size-fit-all argument for everything, and it just doesn't work like that. You know, and what I mean by consequence, I'm not talking about consequence as we're trying to get rid of somebody.

Sure. What I'm saying. Okay, so, you know, to show you how open-minded I am about this, somebody does blackface back in the 90s, and all of a sudden it gets brought up now, and everybody's an uproar and now they want to get rid of that person. That person's a racist. And I'm like, let's just stop and really look at this. This was something that was, whether

we like it or not, something that was probably a little more accepted back in the day. This is something where people didn't know how harmful it was. There's a certain ignorance that probably went with it where these people didn't mean anything. So let's not try to like persecute somebody. Let's actually try to be open-minded and see what this situation's like and the person's

intentions and the time. Okay, so you got that, but then what I mean about consequence is, okay, you say something, and maybe you pissed a group of people off. Right. And that's the consequence. 100%. And we don't, you know, and all of a sudden,

everybody's like, well, that group should shut up. And it's like, well, should they? That, I agree with you because it's like they have the right to get upset. They have the right to defend themselves. It doesn't mean that the person that they're going after should, their lives should be over, but they should have the consequence of answer for what you're saying here now. And it's also dependent on what,

the person is saying like Roseanne, right? Hey, oh, I was on drugs. Well, don't fucking tweet on drugs. You know what I mean? It's like your shit. That's like that there's certain things that like you said, consequence on your action. If I go out there, you know, yelling and screaming, like look, I've talked about it many times.

I talked about it on your show. I've, it took me a while to be open about it because my, as I mentioned you, my brother passed away. I was an angry fuck, man, for like a year, like really angry. I took it with me everywhere I went. I took it with me on the air. When I took it with me that one day, I should have not gone to work.

I wasn't talking anybody. I didn't see anybody. I just brought stuff. I can handle it. And had that whole thing happen with Galaxy's Edge where I yelled on the fucking show about it, right? And man, it's like that to a lot of people defined who I am to them.

They never knew. Someone sees a clip of me. That's who I am. I'm the guy. Recently, I did a review and someone goes, are you still busting your asses of Star Wars? fan doesn't even know who I am. But to him, to be fair to that person,

though, that's what they saw, that's how they know. But like that one particular moment, now the question I have to that person is, did that person ever have a bad day? Did that person ever have a bad day at work? Was that bad day at work ever, you know, filmed? Now, I'm using myself as example because that's a personal experience, but that's a lot of different things, a lot of different people.

But you've had bad days, right? You've had thinking about with even arguments you've had with your wife. And it's like, right? And same with me. It's like imagine any argument. Like you've had a really blown out argument with your wife and then you make up with your wife. But at that argument, any argument with your wife,

who you love and everything too, gets out. Someone was recording it. One of you guys is going to be the bad guy in that. And it's an argument that many people have had over and over and over again. But oh, wow, look at Corey. He's yelling at his wife. He's man. He's angry.

You know what I mean? So it's like that's, that's. Well, you're definitely right about that. You know, being, and when I say this, I'm not saying that, you know, I'm a huge public figure or anything. But when you are out in the public, you're out there making yourself exposed, that's another reason why I had to pull back on certain things because, yeah, people will, they will take it and they think they, and they will take a small thing and they think, like you said,

that defines you. They know, they know everything about you now because of that one thing they saw. And that's, and, you know, and I've learned that with celebrities too, you know, it's like this whole Will Smith thing that happened. Oh, right. We were talking about this and we did a video and it sounded at first like we were making fun of them, And I was like, nah, it's like, this is crazy this keeps coming out with them. But it's like, man, imagine just, you know, you're a person who's that big.

You know, of course, whatever you do is going to be examined closely. Yeah. And actually have a lot of sympathy. Yeah. People who have to, who constantly have their lives exposed. Yeah, you don't, you don't know what that. That's the other thing is people. Well, that's what they ask for.

I mean, not really. No. You know, like that kind of. And because a lot of these people went and how the business is shifted and how things have changed and how, like, how, how much. much like every bit of your life is is out there and how much exposure people have to you because even when back in the day when like even when mill smith was coming up right like he same thing i was talking about earlier he was on tv and he's a movie and he's a movie and he's a movie and he's he didn't have to hear about it today they tweeted at him telling your movie sucks yeah that's

that kind of shit was that wasn't that wasn't like that back then now yeah more people today they they know that that's part of it but it doesn't mean you got to like it that's that you know what, that is true too, that that barrier between you and the public, it's been broken down, man, they can come at you personally now. It's like January 6th. Yeah, yeah, exactly, man, they're tearing your shit down. They're bringing it down. Knock it right over.

Where will it? Where's it at? How did you get here? His wife let me in, what? It's, yeah, it's more, you know, they're not at your house, you know, they're not, they're not looking at you eye to eye, but it is definitely more personal now. Yeah, man. You know, more personal than any critic could have been.

You mean when, do you remember when actors, that was their biggest fear? What did the critic think? Right. And even then they could say, well, I just don't look at that. Right. But now they don't have to worry about it. It's the fans themselves. The people they thought supported them.

They're letting them know. Those are the ones that, like, and they come in very hot a lot of the times too. So I'm just, I do want to, are we going to talk some, we're going to talk some Star Wars in here in just in just a minute. I got, it's a stupid thing about running these things by myself, Corey, is that I have to, like, clean stuff up in the middle of stuff because it starts to like get all, you know, look at this. It's like, yeah, I think it looks better now, but I'm figuring it out. I don't know how I did it, but I figured it out. I think you're doing a great job, man.

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Let's talk some Star Wars, man. What do you want to talk about? Well, this, you know, I knew, and I've always wanted to talk to you about this. I knew that you weren't crazy about how the direction of Star Wars is going. The movies. The movies. Yes. I'm sorry, specifically the movies.

This is my biggest thing, like I've said to, I know that people who are getting tired of this, but I think this explains the best. So, Mandalorian to me is the best Star Wars material since, Return of the Jedi. Yeah. To me it's, it goes as far as ranking stuff, it's Empire Strikes Back,

New Hope, Mandalorian season one and two, Return of the Jedi. Those are my favorites. The reason why is what John Favreau said in the gallery series that I think that we've been talking, now revisiting these movies,

I'm kind of really going over this. What the new trilogy did was they essentially made very expensive fan films and J.J. A. Abrams made what his version of what he thought Star Wars was. He did an homage to Star Wars, right? Ryan Johnson did what he wanted to do is his Star Wars movie.

He did his version of what he thought Star Wars was his homage to Star Wars. JJ did the same thing for the last one. Favreau-Feloni had no interest in doing an homage to Star Wars. They had an interest of doing a show that inspired, and they did an homage to what inspired Star Wars, the Spaghetti Western. Yes. For Asawa. Yes.

The stuff that made Star Wars, Star Wars, the original trilogy, that's the stuff. That's what I enjoy about Star Wars. Deborah Chow's going to do that with Obi-Wan. We got in a trailer for that Friday, right? So that's that, and she understands, she has the philosophy of it. So I think the direction is where they're going with the development of side of the characters. My biggest problem with the new trilogy was there was no plan. I 100% agree with you on that.

No, that's something that definitely show how progressively, These movies were just thrown together. Yeah. I mean, I don't understand. And that's what I have to, that's one of the frustrating things. This is why fandom is so harmful to me, you know, like just like almost religious level fandom where when you criticize something, it comes down to, well, you just don't like it because it's not, it's not what you're used to. Right.

Or what you thought it was going to be. Or what you thought it was going to be. Right. Yeah, you know, you're not a fan, you know, and who can't. I mean, I'm not talking about this from a fan level. I'm talking about this from a pure filmmaking and storytelling level. This could be any movie. This could be any series.

And if they made those same mistakes, I'll be criticizing them as much as I'm criticizing this. What I really can't stand, and again, I'm saying this because I, if people, now it sounds like I'm just being a hypocrite as opposed to what I said earlier. But I'm just speaking personally. Now, if you really like Star Wars, that's not the thing. and I'm going to say to you. I'm going to be like, hey, you're enjoying it. That's great. Yeah. But I do have to ask, I have to really ask people sometimes. I say, hey, look, are you, now, I just want you to be honest with me. Yeah. Are you liking this because you really are getting

some sense of enjoyment from it? Are you liking this because your mind is telling you you're supposed to like this? The fantastic question is, and look, here's, so I think that that certainly was the case with maybe for Last Jedi for me, right? Because the Force Awakens when it came in, I think there's a lot of pulled and rehashed moments from New Hope, no doubt, right? But I watched it recently. It's a fun film. Yeah. What bothers me about the film today is that I know what comes next after eight and nine.

But I know it doesn't go anywhere. I know that when you saw it hopeful in 2015, your head starts to go into what's next, this hopeful thing of, oh, here's these things that they're setting up. Could it potentially lead to this, this and this and of course it does come down to the fact that the expectations you had in your head and met. but the expectations weren't even put on paper to them. Like to me, what a really good hash out story is,

okay, we're going to make these movies. Here's what's going to happen in 2015. And we need to get to this point by 2019. This is where we want to try to get to. This is our, we start with our hero here and we're going to end with her here. Yeah.

And not, well, that's going to happen here. We'll figure it out. Like, there's no we're going to figure it out in Mandalorian. They know where they're going to go. Yeah.

And that's the beauty of, television also. Like when when it was coming out for rise of Skywalker, I had already said at that point, I'm much more looking forward to this Mandalorian show than I was Rise of Skywalker. And everybody's like, you're crazy. You'd rather see a TV show on Star Wars and episode nine before streaming really started taking off. I'm like, yeah, because you're going to have the money they're going to put into it on Disney Plus. First of all, it's going to look like a big movie. Second of all, I get whatever it is, 10 episodes. And the other problem is going off this kind of clash of fandom, right?

When you put a movie out in 20, let's say, we used last Jedi, 2017, and everyone hates it. They're sitting in that stink of hate for two years before, and that's two years to marinate as opposed to one week of an episode. Yeah. You hate an episode of TV? Oh, I didn't like that one. That was terrible. Wow, that's a great point.

You know what I mean? Next week, it's gone. It's washed over. If it delivers, if it's like, like Dexter is coming out now again. right? Like, next to the last season was shit. And every episode was getting bad. And you're like, oh, and that's how TV starts to fail. Every episode starts to be bad.

Yeah, yeah. Then you're sitting in it every week. But if you can course correct, then you're in good shape. No, that is another great point, man. I didn't even think about that. It's all about time. You know, you have more time to sit back and think about something. Yeah, the more you have time to stew over it and have your head to grow.

But, yeah, man, I think that it was just, bad bad business in a way I mean they obviously made their money so but I think it's bad business in the sense that you know you're losing

you're causing like some real fans to lose faith in those movies right and I don't understand how and this is why I think it's bad business for Disney because I don't understand how you can have the model of how to do these things you've got Marvel over there and you see the blueprint of what Marvel's doing

and everybody thinks I'm a Marvel fan boy I'm not I'm a fan of their business model I understand what you're saying. And I think I, I mean, I don't have an answer for sure, but I have a response to it where Kevin Feige, who is, this is where I always said, Kevin Feige is the main producer, but he's also a massive fan of the property. Right. And I'm not telling you that Kathleen Kennedy doesn't like Star Wars, but she's not a massive fan of the property. No, she's not. She's not someone who is going to tell you things about the Mandalorian culture.

Kevin Feigy will tell you where Thanos came from and all those types of things. he can talk about that stuff. Does that mean that Kathleen Kennedy shouldn't have her job? No, it doesn't mean that at all. It means that she's a great producer and what she has shown. And this is why I think it's also very,

people contradict themselves all the time saying how you have to, if you're going to give her shit for the decisions she made in filming, which is fair because she's had a lot of bad decisions on her watch and the filmmaking, you have to give her credit for Mandalorian. And people go, well, that's all Favro and Faloni.

Who put them in the position? Who got them what they needed? That's what a good producer does is they say, this is, okay, what's the creative vision that you see? I don't understand it, but I trust you. Yeah.

What do you need from me and my end? Okay, here's the studio, here's this, here's that. You want directors, I'll make some calls. They produce. They get things done. They make it happen. That's what she did very well in Mandalorian. And that's why I actually kind of push back a little bit on the fact of like,

yeah, the movies, they caused a big divide. But they're course correcting with these shows. They definitely are. I mean, it shows are great. Disney Plus has been a great place for all kinds of storytelling. Now, I see Kathleen Kennedy as someone like an Amy Pascal at Sony. You know, I know you have respect for these properties, but how much of a fan are you? And obviously, you are great at your job because you put together some amazing things.

I'm not a fan to the point where you mess up one thing that I love, and all of a sudden, I'm going to hate you. You're a horrible person. It's like, no, you know, their job is to put these things together. they slip up every now and then. The only thing with Disney is that, okay, you know, yeah, she did it with these shows. Why not apply that with these movies? Why not find?

Maybe there was nobody around that you could think of. Flonny should have been the same time ago. Or Favro. John Favreau and Dave Flonis should have been the ones looking at over the movies as well as shows. And she was, and she had her hand too much in the cookie pot as far as that and as far as the movies went. Because I think she was too involved creatively inside of it.

And I think that that's why she stepped back on it. The other reason why I think movies are for Star Wars, specifically, Marvel has these angles and they're able to put it, and they treat it like a television show. The movies themselves. They have this one. Star Wars hasn't done that in the past.

Star Wars, and the other thing is, when you look at a movie like The Last Jedi, which the main arguments of people hated so much is the Luke Skywalker stuff, right, and how they thought Luke was going to be, and there's too much attachment emotionally to it, the characters, right?

When you, this rogue squadron movie that they cut coming out with Patty Jenkins, it's a great one-off movie to do. You're probably not going to know who the hell's in it. You're going to learn new characters about it. No one's going to say, well, that's not the way so-and-so should be because you shouldn't even know who so-and-so is. It should be brand-new characters.

It's a one-off film. That's how Star Wars should approach. Or the other thing that I really want to see them do, do a full series. Like, let's say Mandalorian. Let's say Mandalorian is season four. And then it ends in, it's going to end in December, and then the season finale is a two-hour movie that comes out in theaters. You know what?

That's awesome. You know, and I, why don't she hire you? Kathleen, Ken, call this man over here. Yeah, once I speak about their theme park, they don't want me anymore. Well, that's where they fail. I mean, they should have sent you that theme park.

They could have had some discussions with you. No, it was the whole, that whole thing. They're just sort of just like, yeah, we're going to stay away from that guy. Well, now that they'd invite you that theme park, that's where they messed up, man. That's right. Now they would never have you.

That's right. You know what, man. This is something I want to ask you then, Because this is where I get into, like, even with people who agree with me the most on Star Wars. This is where I kind of have, this is where we start to disagree. So I'm kind of getting tired of the fan service. I'm getting tired of the cameos. I'm getting tired of the same places.

You know, when we have to go to Tatooine and we actually, hey, let's stop and sit in Han Solo's booth real quick, you know. Right. I'm, that kind of stuff is really kind of getting to me. I'm really just begging for one self-contained story where there's no other characters coming in. And we don't have to, like, play these Easter egg games anymore. So I don't mind the Easter eggs,

but I want them to serve the story. I don't agree with people when they say certain things make it smaller, right? Like I pushed back tremendously on people when they said that putting Luke Skywalker into Mandalorian made the universe smaller. I don't know if I, I don't probably ever disagree with anybody more when they say that because they've set it up for you in the story already where that happens and what time period it has because the Mandalorian itself is an original story. This guy is brand new. You never saw him before.

But because Luke is in everyone thinks, oh, it's got smaller. It doesn't get smaller because at that point what they set up was that there's one Jedi with this Grogu kid. There's one Jedi out there that could call out to him. Who did they set up at that point that would be running around? Who's the strongest Jedi at the time? it would be Luke. Yeah, you know what? That makes sense, and I do accept them those terms.

I think also, I am one of those people that thought, like, man, dude, wow, Luke Skywalker. It's cool. I didn't hate it. It makes sense. No, it makes sense, but I also think they, by design, they said from the beginning, we're going to make this to where we pay fan service these people for Luke Scott Walker. I don't think Flonnie does that, dude. I think Filoni for him knows that at that, when he's sitting around and they had the conversation of like, who would be a person. kick up on this kid at this point in time.

This is five years after Return of the Jedi. Yeah. Luke is the strongest in the force he's ever been at that point. He's looking around for Jedi relics and shit at this point. Yes. No, it makes complete sense. So we would go there. Now, like, there are certain times when things show up and they just put people in things

to put them into it. And it's like, eh, like, I didn't think Hans Solo should have a movie. The Solo movie, to me, that was a fan service movie. It's like, oh, he's a popular character. Let's bank off of his name. And the movie is fine, but it was unnecessary, right? 100% agree. Yeah, but Boba Fett.

I liked it. Yeah, but I don't mind Boba Fett in this show because the way that they said Boba Fett as far as how he worked himself into it in regards to getting the mask, the stuff that they said. They set up the thing in a book, which the how his mask was found by Timothy Ola Fand and all that. So the way that they played it in because I didn't want a Boba Fett series. I didn't want a Boba Fett movie. I don't want any of that shit because of what you're saying, the same reason I felt for solo.

We don't need it. Yeah. But I thought they set it up well enough to, if it makes sense inside of the story itself, introduced inside of an original concept, which the Mandalorian is, then you got me if it makes sense. Okay, you know, no, if you, that's why I didn't mind it. Yeah. Because it does make sense.

I see what they were doing. They took their time to set it up. Right. I guess I'm coming at it from the angle of, you know, from the beginning. Can we, can we just, I'm just pining for a story where we don't have to bring in any other cameos, reference anything. from Star Wars. Who knows? Maybe the universe is this tight.

I think Ackleite is going to do that for you, though. Do you know anything about it? I was just about to ask, what is that? So the Acolyte is for, I don't have, I mean, you probably get more detail when it comes out on, when they talk about it on Friday, but from, it takes place before Phantom Menace, I think like 100, 200, 200, 200 years beforehand.

But it's, it's based off of, it seems like it's going to be the Sith, like the lead up, because the Sith are hiding in the shadows at this point. So it's going to lead into the dark side. Yeah. So you're most likely, going to get the philosophy and the religion of the Sith, but they're in the shadows.

Because remember by Phantom Menace, they're saying, unless we can reveal ourselves to the Jedi. So they're messing with people during this time. So I think that, I mean, because at 200 years beforehand, you're not going to get,

I mean, you might get the reference of a Darth Plagis, who was referenced in Revenge of the Sith because that was Darth Sid's master, but you're not going to, you're not going to get into these other characters because it's like 200 years before. I want to see them do the old republic,

which is like a thousand, right. Right. Right. So that's like, that's the one that could be like Game of Thrones. Yeah, yeah. But I don't mind cameos when they work. Like, yeah, I don't mind them.

I don't mind if they work. I just don't want to see them anymore for at least for two things. You know, just one or two projects. Yeah. Can we just do something that's just totally detached because I'm, you know, I'm just, I've seen these characters over and over and over again. Maybe I just need to just get used to it and that's just the way it is. What about Asoka though?

Is Assoca, though, did you watch the animated series? No, I did not. No, I just started getting into it because of what, they do with Mandelorian. Right. But, but, but, but that's the point. That's the point is that you, you didn't, because of, because of what they did by putting her in there to the people who watched Clone Wars and Rebels, to them, it's, oh, there's a character I'm familiar with, which is what you're saying, I wish it would put someone else in there. But because of that, you now got interested in it, and now you're watching it. Yeah. No, I, I'm, like I said, if you do it well.

Right. I'll, I'll watch it. I'm not going to, I'm not going to ignore it. I hate on it. If it's done right. It's done well. But again, it's just, It's just the desire there. I understand that. And now, because now we're getting, you know, the Sulkah show. Now we got, what's his name, coming in, Hayden Christensen. And I, and, okay, so this is what you're really going to hate me now

because I just, I hate those prequels so much that I hate anything that's attached to them. At all. So for a long time, I felt the same. I have, Ken Nabsock used to always tell me how he rediscovered and found a new love for it. I never understood it. I recently, whether it's the light,

side, or maybe to you it's the dark side, I have actually found myself in really enjoying the prequels now, because I think because I have children, right? Yeah. And I think there was something about when I saw The Phantom Menace. My daughter now is 10, but she was around like eight when we watched it again together. And I saw her eyes when she was watching it. And I said, that's, that's what he was going for here. He's not making, like the original trilogy, even though it's got things for kids in it, kids fell in love with it. Kids and adults can still enjoy it. This movie is geared towards kids.

It really was geared towards kids, and it plays like an episode of the Clone War series to me. And I found myself really enjoying it because when you dissect it, the story itself of the prequels, really good. Dialogue's atrocious, no doubt. Some of the filmmaking is real bad, and it's hard to get past.

And there's some moments in there you're just like, come on, man. I won't disagree with any of it. But there's something about it that plays to me now, for some reason. You know, I guess you set up this, this, this, this, this prequel. Yeah.

For this great trilogy, it's great trilogy that appealed to everybody. Yeah. But then you make it this children's film where everything, again, has to be connected. Right. And it's such a children's film that is, that, that, that is just written terribly. Like, I don't describe that. I cannot watch, I just, and this kid, I know he's caught enough hell, man. Jake Lloyd.

Jake Lloyd. Yeah. I just, he's, he's just, he's terrible in that first movie. That's not because, I don't even think it's because he's a, I'm not going to blame him. Trish Lucas is not a good director with actors. No. And I think that kid was directed so bad and he caught so much hate because he was just made to look bad. I can't get over that he wrote this so badly that Darth Vader built the C3PO.

I hate that. I mentioned the thing. I think there's, that goes back to your previous point. There's a lot of stuff in the prequel that I believed made it smaller, right? D2 and C3PO, like, they shouldn't have been in there. Why, why did, if they erase C3PO's memory, why don't they erase R2? And if they do, they don't, why doesn't R2 telling Luke, hey, I know who Yoda is? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, like, so there's a lot of stuff they didn't try to pay attention to that there's a lot of stuff in there that I'm not going to argue with you that doesn't make sense. But you have, you know what? The funny thing is, you have children. Yeah. And I think when people have children and they see things to their children's eyes, their children are happy. Yes.

You know, all of a sudden, your child's happiness means the world to you, so you're going to have a different side. I ain't got no kids. Right. No, no. You know, now maybe one day I'll have a kid and I'll watch this with them. I'm like, you know what, as long as they're happy. And it very well could be because what you're looking at it,

you're looking at it through those eyes of someone who liked the original trilogy and in your head wanted to see at least somewhat similar to a tone. And that ain't there. It's a very different thing. It loops back in. It's got its own feel, its own look. And I've kind of accepted that as far as what it is now and how it works out. But Hayden Christensen, as we started this conversation, very similar to Jake Lloyd,

people hated his ass. Like, Mopey, this, that. Now he's beloved. He goes to, and I think the sequel shows you had a lot to do with that too, but he goes to these conventions, they cheer him. He's coming back for both series. And I'm actually all for it, right? Well, I think that guy is a great act, by the way.

He's good. He was directed poorly again. He was directed poorly and he was attached to such an iconic character. Man, that's going to follow you. It drove Jake Lloyd crazy, but Hayden Christians. And I defend Hayden Christian because I know you've seen this movie. You've seen Shattered Glass, right? Yeah, man.

I keep telling people, this guy's a great actor, man. He's going to do, Deborah Chow. So I, when the Obi-Wan movie was announced before it became a series, I said, Vader's got to be in this thing. and people, very similar of what you were saying before, I was like, why do you need Vader in it? It doesn't make sense.

It makes all the sense in the world because of Return of the Jedi. And again, people are tired of me saying this. But like, is that scene of Return of the Jedi when Luke turns himself in, and Vader says, and Luke says, I know that there's still good in you. And Vader says,

Obi-Wan once thought as you did. Yeah. We haven't seen that yet. When did we see that? Exactly. Because in Revenge of the City, he's just letting his friend burn. and he steals his lightsaber.

And it's all he does. He's like, okay, you're burning. Because it's Padmey who says to him, they're still good in him. Yeah. And that sits with him. So if it sits with him and then he's got to try to confront his friend again, that's what I think this series is going to be about.

And that's why Hayden Christensen is in it. It's going to be that final battle of them getting into it of there is delight. And then he realizes he's more machine now than man. And I'll tell you this, man, looking at this done with different directors. Yeah. and look at this done with the, you know, potential to be done in a better format.

Yeah. See, now, I'm open to that. I might be tired of seeing these characters, but if they can tell these stories and show different sides of them, you know, like you said, if they make sense, I'm open to it. Yeah, see, the difference is I'm just,

I'm not arguing against bringing these things in. Bring them in as many times you can, if you can create great stories and execute it right. But at the same time, I'm just asking for something, like, if we can just steer off this path and just see some other parts of this universe that with characters that we... I understand that.

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Yeah, there was certain things that I admired about it. Yeah. But, yeah, man, it was a drastic fall for me from that first movie. I love the 2018 version, right? Yeah. What I wanted him to do was, obviously the first one is a class. obviously the first one is a classic. And then 2018, they take a lot of what they,

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This is a spoiler for whoever's seen this. So tough shit. They're, they're, the fucking one guy is like, hey, and they go, Hey,

that's Michael Myers. I got, that's not Michael Myers. And then they're chasing them up the stairs. And they can't catch this guy. And then they're like, evil dies tonight. It's this dumbest slogan.

It's the stupidest movie I've seen in a long time. And how it has like a 30. 36% is a that's such a generous score it's such a dumb movie I'd yeah man I didn't give it like on my sky I didn't give it some bullshit but I said man this is yeah this is not this is not good

it's not good and I knew that there were people who were going to be like you know again it's a Star Wars thing it's a fandom thing people don't like it no matter what and I get arguments like well because I say these people the biggest thing that really bother me is how dumb these people are and how much you know Michael Myers

he said he's becoming a supernatural thing which is not the point. But, you know, I said, but the people are really bothering me in this. When you have a guy, two guys, their house, they're in Michael Myers' house, on Halloween,

the house gets broken into, and they hear that somebody went upstairs. Now, I don't care if it's Michael Myers' house, I don't care if it's not Halloween, if you somebody broke into your house. Get out! You got the front end back door, wine open?

You've got two options. Yeah, get out and call the police. A dude's going to, he's going to get this wine and, this cheese, this little fangy on clipper and go upstairs and I was like you know what at this point I'm like you deserve what you get and then his partner the other guy yeah I'm this is where I said fuck you feel it's like when the guy sits up he's standing he said Michael Myers at the window

he knows his partner just died and he looks he says Michael's name yeah Michael yeah he Michael turns around the guy got the he's got the door wide open the steps open he can run because Michael don't run right you know Michael Michael always Robo cop walks you know Yeah, he's just cool. He ain't, Michael didn't even jog. So, but when this guy, this guy has a clear open to leave. Yeah. Michael turns around and just this slow starts walking to him.

And the guy's like, ah, it's so dumb. It's like, so, dude, and the other thing is they notice that he's on television killing all. Michael Myers running around. Where's the fucking army? Bring the army out. Yeah, exactly. Where's the, where's the, where the police? Where's the National Guard, where they, you know, they always show up after everything is done.

I don't even think they showed up here. Nowhere. And it's like you got, you got one of the Griswaltz with a baseball bat going after him. It's like, no, what are you doing? Like, where's the president? But people say, send the jet. Now you're nitpicking. See, that's another thing.

Like we, again, with words like woke, council coach, all that, when somebody doesn't like what you're saying, they just throw out something to contradict. And they say, oh, you're nitpicking. So I shouldn't try to make sense out of anything just because you want to like this movie. Yeah, this is why I don't pay attention to when people say that. It's like I just, that one I'll ignore or agree to disagree and move on because this is a fucking stupid movie. Like I was, I was watching this with because my wife is a big, she's not a horror fan. But to her, Halloween is nostalgic.

She's to watch it with her sister. So we watched the 2018 one. She's like, I want to watch the new one. I'm like, all right, great. Let's watch it. And we were like, is it me or is this like the dumbest movie that has ever come out? Like, these are dumb people. And I know this was the pushback that people got.

I said, Jamie Lee Curtis is in the movie. This is my favorite argument, actually, by people who are defending this movie. I said, Jamie Lee Curtis is in the hospital, the entire movie. And they're like, well, it's the same night she would be. I'm like, don't answer me with logic in this movie. When you got this guy running around killing all these firemen and then he gets shot, his head smashed and he gets up and he's supernatural. She should be able to heal quick and go, well, but it's different because he's super.

supernatural. I hated when they went in supernatural stuff with him in the other 27 movies they did of Michael Myers. And now they went back to this. They're making the third one. I hope that they... Course correct. A hundred percent course correct. Go back to what made the 2018 one special and attach it and get away from this stupid shit that they would for this one. Because this one was terrible. I agree with you. That was a big mistake. You know, the thing about Michael Myers is Michael Myers, he was, uh, I mean, he was always better than the average killer. Right. But that was the allure of him.

It's like he's so good that he can elude all these things and get away with him. And he's so evil that he can do that. But that was what made him scary is that he felt real. You know, he was somebody, whether it was, you know, he was efficient or he was lucky or he was just, you know, he was just insane and thought on a different level. But he always felt grounded. And to me, that made him more appealing. Yes. And he was scary because he would pop out of the shadows.

He wouldn't just bash people's heads in. That's what Jason did. Like, you know, you'd be, and yes. Because of Carpenter, they talked about this thing where he, like, the first one, I think the most blood you see is like on a knife. It's not a bloody movie. No, it's not. It doesn't need to be.

It's like it's, it's the matter of how it's shot with the music and all that. That's what I thought, 2018 had the tea thing that happened. There was a couple of them. This was, this was over, or pun intended, it was overkill. It was overkill. No, definitely was. And I, and I, as somebody, I said, man, I, what is it that, that, that, that, that, that makes you overlook these dumb people.

It's like, well, I look at this because the, because people in the world are just stupid. And I said, that is such an overgeneralized statement. And there's no, you're just excusing bad writing. Right. That's lazy writing. Really bad writing. And I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm, this is the thing that makes me kind of get upset with

Harve. It's the same thing with, like, with any kind of fandom. You know, horror fans are so quick to defend, you know, things when they're, even when they're obviously poorly written or poorly executed. Right. And I keep trying to say to people, you know, my opinion is that it's okay to defend things. But when it gets to a point where I think you're doing yourself a disservice. Because when you allow sloppy writing or poor execution of things, then you're giving them a

pass to just continue to do that. Right. Well, but I also think that it's something that could go back to your Beatles statement beforehand, too, right? It could be someone saying, like, I'm okay. like someone who says my friend wrote me he's like it's stupid as shit but I loved it I said fair okay you know what I mean like it's it's it's the argument around like trying to make excuses for it they're like I don't I'm not with you here on I yeah I love that if you can be if look

just be honest with me yeah it's stupid as shit I think it's dumb as hell but but I love it there's a lot of movies that there's like I love the 1980 Flash Gordon it's a terrible movie I love that movie too it's a terrible movie but it's great like it's great it's great it's It's fun. I watch the seat. But it's not going to, if there's someone, there's a lot of people that have you tried to show them that movie now, they're like, what are you talking about? Like it's like, you know, with the whole football scene when they're playing Ming's thing. And it's, it's, but you and I grew up on it though.

So you probably saw it when you were a kid, right? I saw that in a theater, man. Right. So, so that's the thing is that. So for us, we have this kind of nostalgia thing to it. But like, I'm not going to. try to convince anybody that that's like classic cinema. Well,

I'd like count to you a big difference between something like Flash Gordon and Halloween Kills and even Star Wars, anything else like that. They knew what they were doing. They're, you know, the expectations they set up were clear. They're like,

they were camp coming out. Yeah. They meant to just have fun. At that time, they were thinking, this is a comic book. Yeah. You know,

we're just being goofy. They knew they were, they were self-aware of being, goofy. You know, things like Halloween kills, they have higher aspirations, and they set that up in the first movie. It did. And that's what I thought we were getting. I thought that they were approaching. It's so different. But before we let you go, I do want to tell people one more thing, and then we should talk about the anticipated movies for the end of the year, because I want to talk, I want to hear about you take. I'm going to guess on what I think you're most anticipated

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man, because there's so much cool stuff in here. There's cool stuff in here, too. She always wants to play the game. She always wants to play the Star Wars. So you do let her in here. I do, but I got to,

well, what I let her do now, what she's been, because she gets addicted to the iPad and I don't want her on that shit. Yeah, yeah. So instead I let her get addicted to the Xbox. She comes on on Saturdays and I give her.

She loves Sims. Okay, so, oh, that's cool, man. Yeah, it's great. I feel like if I had a kid, I tell them what you ever come in here. I know. Well, that's what I did. When she came and she played Xbox,

she left her French toast in here. I said, next time, you're fucking French toast in here. That's bullshit. I love this Chucky, man. Isn't he great? Yeah, well, you sent that? That's amazing.

Yeah, they sent it. So they have the new series. coming out. So, yeah, they sent the new doll because I had that mass that Universal sent me, like, back in the day. But it's not as great as that. I mean, that one, that's pretty intimidating. I put it there for the people who are really scared of horror movies and I let them sit

right next to it. And it's always funny to get their reaction to it. Oh, if you don't want your girl leaving French toast in here, just tell a Chuck is going kill you if you don't. Yeah, look at this, man. That's amazing. Yeah, he's great. Good guy, though.

All right. So I have, I have my prediction where I think, I feel like Matrix. It's going to be one that you're really excited for. But I think No Way Home is the one you're really looking forward to the most. You know what? Okay, you're right. You're exactly right. Wow, you nailed me, man.

No way home. Spider-Man, that's the one. I'm silly excited for that. Is it making nervous, though, do you think this to be? Spider-Man 3, the Ramey version, and Spider-Man 2, the Amazing Spider-Man 2, had the same idea that this one has, and that's put a lot of shit. shit in there. It makes me

extremely nervous. Now that, especially since Venom's already made the connection and Mobius is saying, all right, yeah, Sony's making me nervous

with this whole thing. Right. I finally feel like Marvel, as strong as they are, they're being strong-armed by somebody else who has just a little more leverage

because of the one thing. Is it a character? Yeah, because of the character. So I don't know how much of this is Kevin Feigey actually saying, we had this idea the whole time.

This will be amazing. This is Sony saying, all right, no, you're going to do this. See, it's weird because I almost feel like the opposite because of where the deal had to be made of what they needed to do.

And they know that they had this whole thing where Loki were doing these multiverses and how it's all playing out. And they connected to this because Koi Jandrew who's on the show. I don't know if you've ever met Koi, but Koi, he's like his knowledge and comic book movies are just, it's insane what he knows about certain shit. He needs to play baseball. But he was talking about his idea is that because it's no way home. that this is going to, because they're going to, the rumor is that they're bringing in Andrew Garfield and Toby McGuire and this, that this is going to start Sony being able to make more Toby McGuire, Spider-Man movies, more, more Andrew Garfield movies, and still make it in the same

platform, and you can even put these guys in their own movies because you're setting it up that way. And it's allowing Sony to continue on in their reverse, but they still get Tom Holland in an extra guest appearance inside of MCU if you need them. So I don't know. I don't know how Either way, however, it came down. But it's very intriguing to me if they do it. What we've been talking about, the theme of this whole show is execution and how it could play out. And then leading into the multi, was it the multiverse and madness? Multiverse and Man.

So what's called the Doctor Strange. Right. So how that all penned. This is like the first movie in that kind of two-parter, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, the potential for what they can do is exciting. Yeah.

So I'm just, sometimes, man, look, I've learned to be to be, precautiously, you know, optimistic about things. You know, so I know that going into this, there's a lot of things that they've set up where this could bring this movie down, you know, like, again, too many things happening. And that's what, that's making me a little nervous. But I don't know, man, I just love what they've done so far

at that character. Me too. I'm excited about it. And I was excited to have you here, man. This is a blast. Oh, thank you, man. So what's the movie you're looking forward to the most? It's hard for me because I was,

it was many Saints in Newark, actually. if you see Tony Soprano back there. Oh, that... I don't have my glasses, and I was wondering who the hell that was. He's over there, too. Yeah, it's the multiverse. It was, and then now they're doing actually a mini-series for it.

That kind of... But right now, the reason why it was easy for me to predict those, because those are mine, my two, right? Matrix and Spider-Man are the two, but I don't know which one I'm looking forward to more. I am excited, I think, because we've been doing all these rewatches of Spider-Man, that I think that had I not done the rewatches, it would have been an easy choice with Matrix. But I'm very curious in how it's all going to tie in.

I'm very curious to see how they're going to use Garfield and Willem to Fo and all that. And how they're going to make it work. Is it just going to be like kind of like a throwaway cameo or is it actually going to be story line? It's going to lead to new movies. So that part of it is exciting because it does create new movies. But there's something about Matrix where we're talking about course correct. acting. Like the first movie is one of the best movies of all time, and the two, three are just kind

of, if they can reboot that entire thing and get me excited about the Matrix again, it, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's the thing with the Matrix for me. I'm more curious than excited. Yeah. Because I didn't like the last two movies. No, they weren't good. No, the second one to me, if the third one was great, then the second one would have

become better because they set up so much in the second one that I was like, oh, but then once the third one is just kind of. Yeah, yeah. similar to the new trilogy in Star Wars. Exactly what you was saying. Now that I know what's happening, what happened. Yeah, yeah, who knows? Let's see what happens next.

Tell us where you, so you got your tour, and so at this point, your next show is going to be Chicago. So where can people find your tickets? Where can they find your show? Twitch, obviously, it's just a double-toasted show on Twitch. Yeah, if you look up Double-toasted and go to Twitch, double-toasted is, I don't know that. Sometimes it's one word, sometimes too. I should really settle that out, but, you know, I think it's one word. If you type in double-toasted, you'll find us.

our next show is going to be in Chicago on November 18th Where is that? Go to X1 Entertainment And that's where they have it X1 Entertainment.com And it's all listed there. Okay great.

Yeah. So yeah, you know, while you're closing out, though, I'm going to look and see where, because I'm kind of curious now. Let me know for sure. And you guys should definitely check them out.

As I mentioned, if you're familiar with the movie show, Shemowdown, both Lady Justice Marisola McKee and Adam Collins, they just went to the show and they were raving about the show. And if you watch, if you watch Double Toast

Well, you should be watching it. If you do watch it, they'll bring in their sense of humor and the opinions. Obviously, you just heard from Corey here that bring in that to the live stage. And you guys should go check them out. Oh, and I really appreciate your friends showing up and enjoying it, man. Yeah, on November 18th, we're going to be at the chop shop. Okay. In Chicago.

And by this point, everybody would have seen us at the Miracle Theater here in Los Angeles. I hope they had a good time and enjoyed themselves. Yeah, right. We're talking from the future here. If I'm dead, then I'm speaking to you from the grave right now. Don't jinx it. Live from hell. This would be hell.

No, this right here has been heaven for me, man. This has been, this has been great. And again, again, I'm, again, I'm honored that you had me on. We've got to do it again. Next time you come in town when you're in here for L.A., anytime you're on, we'll always have you on, for sure. Well, Chris, you know, if you come to, if you come to Austin. Yeah.

I'll be in that area. You have a place to stay, always, you know. Thanks, man. You know, whatever, man. I would love to. I love being on your show. I think I'd love, I would just laughing. with you and Martin, so anytime for sure.

And then hopefully we will lock up when we're there in February as well. Yeah, for sure, man. Yeah, we're going to be in Dallas on February 18th. And I would love to see you. What day is that? Is that a Friday? It's Friday.

That's good because we'll probably be in Dallas on the 19th. So that'd be perfect. Oh, nice. Be perfect. Excellent, man. Yeah, we'll make it happen one way or another. All right, brother. So check him out.

Go and check out double toasted. Everybody. Thank you guys for checking out the big thing. Subscribe to us on Apple Podcast. please or Spotify. That is one of the main things here too. If you see the great sponsors that we have today, it's because you guys, we don't do donations,

we don't do the whole super chats and stream labs and all that stuff. This is just going after those great sponsors that we believe in, and you guys have been helping us do that. So once again, thank you to Corey. Thank you to you guys. And we'll see you on Friday. A lot going on Friday. Got the Obi-Wan trailer coming out.

We're going to do all that stuff. Sith Council is just going to be breaking down what we see on the Star Wars side of things. That's it, man. Peace out. Shave your balls.