The Kristian Harloff Show - Superman Being Called Superman II On Steroids?! | The Kristian Harloff Show

Episode Date: June 27, 2025

Get 60% off the Magic Mind offer here: https://magicmind.com/khmf #magicmind #mentalwealth #mentalperformanceCome Superman 2 on steroids is how the latest Superman movie is being received! Good? Bad? ...We shall see! James Gunn says the inspiration for the DCU is Game of Thrones not the MCU. New Fantastic Four trailer thoughts and why Jon Watts walked away. Punisher begins shooting next month! This and more with Capes and Cowls Kristian Harloff show! #dc #dcu #superman

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Starting point is 00:00:30 Superman 2 on steroids. So people are saying about the new Superman. Good thing, bad thing. James Gunn says, yeah, we're not taking the MCU as a reference point. We're taking Game of Thrones as a reference point for the DCU. How about that? Punisher is going to start pretty soon. Start shooting anyway pretty soon.
Starting point is 00:00:51 And there's tons of other things going on in the world comic book movie news. It's myself. It is Winston A. Marshall today in the show. Coy genre will be back. next week. So you got the two of us, ladies and gentlemen. Let's get into it. It's Capes and Cows. It's the Christian Harlov show. Here we go. Welcome back to these and gentlemen to the Capes and Cals, Christian Arloff show. It really got to talk to the wicked art about updating that title. It's a big thing still in it. It's myself, Christian Harlow, with,
Starting point is 00:01:38 you hear that joyous laughter that is coming from the man, Winston A. Marshall. Like a dog, bro. I was talking about heat. Are you kidding me? It was a dude. It was a hundred and like six degrees here the other day and i talked about this at length this week the the air conditioner went off of the movie theater that i was into watch f1 it's a two and a half hour movie so he was a fan we're doing this bro considering how that movie will get your blood flowing too that's the last thing you need is the AC to go out at least the least was entertaining enough that i wasn't like get me the hell out of here um anyway welcome back everybody to the show like you said coigandro not in today can winston a marshal
Starting point is 00:02:16 do the unthinkable today and win for capes and cows pushing it to five in a row as the jack hammering begins i tried to worry or even if he sticks around for the whole show but we'll double check it's not too bad i can it's like i can hear it and i hear it at the same time okay what i can try and do is i'm going to choke up on the mic and i'm just going to lower this can you can't hear it i can't hear it right now okay it's going to drive be crazy but i'm here if you No, we're okay on our end. So, Winston, you're trying to win this thing without coy this week. It's going to be tough.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I'm not going to lie. It's going to be tough. You know what's going on this week? You know the number? No. So Roka came out strong on Monday with 165. God damn, he's mad. Yeah, and then Roxy said, hold my beer into 233.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I think, honestly, what it is for those, obviously you guys wouldn't know. Obviously, there's a competition between all of us. we have a text chain between the group that Christian announces who pulled it off each year or each week. I should do it once a year. Just once a year. Just do a rundown of all 52 weeks. For one, right. But every time we win, somebody wins, like people obviously the blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And then Christian was like, hey, they did it again, four weeks. They broke the record or three weeks. And not only, Roxy is normally the sweetest one. and she goes, couldn't have happened to nicer guys. Like, they're so sick of us winning. Yeah, I think, I think this, I think this week, it'll be tough. I mean, it'll be tough. We'll see if you can do it.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It'll be very, very impressive. Unless if y'all can hear that, have pity on me for this fucking jackhammering. Excuse, there's my one. I'm, uh, listen, before we even get going, we talked about this last week. So magic mind, it's absolutely incredible. I've told you about magic mind. I got three different magic minds here right now. And so what's really great is it's, it's,
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Starting point is 00:04:37 I still like the other ones. They work really, really well. But the regular one for me is the focus, the clarity, the clean energy. I like that a lot. Um, but you, you're a big fan of which one. I honestly, I like all three of them, but Max has been my go to. Um, what I loved about the original is I agree. It was a nice, like, extra thing to help you through the day.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It didn't replace your coffee. This is actually the max has replaced my morning coffee. Um, because it actually has, what is it? I believe about a hundred milligrams of caffeine, 100, 165. Okay. And so for me, I don't need my cup of coffee. I hit this. I'm good to go.
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Starting point is 00:06:29 Look, and again, just the show. I want to make sure that everybody saw. There you go. All three. All three, man. Okay. Winston, let's get into this article, the first one, which is Superman's final cut is described as Superman 2 on steroids and very silly, very big.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I don't know if I love that part of it. Very, really, very big part. I don't know. That makes me a little nervous. A little nervous. But I'll tell you this, before we even get into this. So I know tons of people have seen this movie already. I'm sure you do as well.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yes. The first thing I'm going to say, before I even say, any of this is that I am not talking about Roxy Stryor. I'm not talking about Greg Albin. I'm not talking about any way in the real rejects. You have my word on that. I have heard from, I'm going to quote two other people that I know that saw it, not including any of those people, I swear, not one of those people.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I'm going to tell you what they said about the movie. I asked them. And these are two people that I highly respect their opinions on movies, because they're always really honest about stuff. And both of these people, I usually line up on par with their, taste both really enjoyed the movie um one said just that which i i really enjoyed it had a really had a great time with it i was excited to watch it was the one so okay great didn't ask for too much more the other one said really good movie probably ranks it high um but not super not
Starting point is 00:08:06 but he wouldn't he wouldn't categorize it as special is what and i said what about the humor does it overpower the movie and said absolutely not it's not not the way guardians does is what this particular person said so that made me hopeful on on both because of both of these people's opinions i usually align with so i said okay that's i can i can go with that i can deal with that so And more people here are now saying, you know, things like the following, right? Which is, again, Superman's final cut is now described as Superman 2 on steroids. Very silly, very big. More details about Superman have landed after recent screenings and the DC Studios reboot is being compared to 1980, Superman 2.
Starting point is 00:08:55 In a positive way, we think you can find out more of the jump. Josh Wilding says we've been getting bits and pieces of information from Superman's test screenings for months. But the movie has been picture locked. for weeks and was screened to the press for the first time in the U.S. yesterday. Reactions won't be shared on social media until next month. Well, it's the next month is like next week. I guess it is next month. I hate people do that.
Starting point is 00:09:20 The same thing. It'll be like July 2nd. I'll be like, yeah, last month was crazy. You mean two days ago? Right. It's next, you know, come. And like next week reactions will be shared. However, a reliable social media scooper who shared many of the details referenced above,
Starting point is 00:09:34 all of which have soon been confirmed as accurate, has an intriguing update. Asked about Superman's tone in the final cut. Viewer Anon described the movie as Superman 2 on steroids. The Superman, the movie sequel, was released in 1980 and became mirrored in controversy when Richard Donner was replaced as director by Richard Lester after shooting 75% of the movie. Donner's director's cut was finally released in 2006, and both versions are far more bombastic than the classic first installment. As to elaborate, the insider said it's very silly, very big.
Starting point is 00:10:03 another social media insider resident justice later chimed in by saying it also described the final film as a live action episode of Superman the animated series it's very silver age it's got a lot of those sci-fi tropes it's big in spectacle drama and last but most importantly it's big in its heart it's a very earnest film that is what i love the most about what i've read so far personally there are also what appears to be very early reactions floating around a letterbox with one supposed viewer saying someone finally got Superman right depending on how you feel about Superman too the lady's update will be either exciting or troubling based on one past experience. It's almost given that Superman's social media reactions will be glowing, especially when fan accounts for attendance this early sneak peek. Some of them labeled on X with the hashtag WB partner hashtag. Okay. Let's see Superman 2. Yeah, that's everything.
Starting point is 00:10:52 All right. Now, first, I got to address this is a comment that I get all the time, all the time about when we're talking about Superman 1 and 2. Yes, Superman 2 is a Richard Donner film. It was like, oh, no, Superman 1 is. only one he did. No. Sold justice. No. He did the second. He's 75% of the movie that was pretty much edited. They put in reshoots and everything too. It was his movie. He was literally shot the, Ursula and Zod and non. He shot all that stuff. They used 75% of his footage and then they
Starting point is 00:11:20 gave him his own Donner cut. So no, Lester, you don't get credit for that for just, it's not like a Tony Gilroy situation. In the same way, if it was a Tony Gilroy, who gets credit? Who gets credit? What are you what about in comparison? Because I don't know how much was shot of the original Justice League. What of that do you put as Snyder versus Weidon? Because I feel like that's a better. Well, no, it's not. It's not very.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah. The problem is that you don't really necessarily know how much. I mean, that that that, that, that, that, that, that version is just Weedon's version. I mean, that's just, that's not, that's not, that's not. That's not Snyder's version. Snyder's cut is no, Josh Sweden has nothing to do with that.
Starting point is 00:12:05 That's a Snyder movie. So I would say they're both, both of them directed movies. You have footage that he used, but Josh Whedon used way more his footage and his narrative. Donner's narrative is still in. Okay. If you watch the Donner cut,
Starting point is 00:12:20 the narrative is the same narrative. There's just different scenes. I think I only watched the Donner cut. Okay. Because remember, I hadn't seen the original Superman. And so when I watched it, I only watched the Donner cut. I didn't watch the original release.
Starting point is 00:12:34 There's different scenes and everything, too, but there's not much of a difference. So yes, Richard Donner is very much as much involved in Superman 2 as he was one. So when I say the Donner films, I mean the Donner films. He was the one who created and put together that whole narrative. So Soljustice as much as I love you, you are wrong, brother. It is absolutely 100% a Donner movie. So if Superman 2 is being compared, to this movie for me makes me very helpful because that's my favorite Superman movie at anything it's
Starting point is 00:13:05 my favorite Superman anything that was the movie that I loved as a kid it's a movie that I continue to go back I absolutely love that movie so combined with the idea that there's a lot of heart that's an end by the person that told me that the jokes don't overpower it I'm even more hopeful for this movie than I was yesterday. How about yourself? I mean, I have remained excited about this the entire time, so I'm actually very much for what's coming one way or the other. I don't, obviously, where I become a little hesitant just from the, this is not a jab at comic book movies, this is just kind of how articles are written at this point because they do come off as a little clickbait to say very silly and very big.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Out of context in that way, it feels like you're trying to, everybody like you that was potentially worried about this being, oh, it's gone, it's just going to be jokes, jokes, jokes, and the dogs everywhere and blah, blah, blah. That's what putting that in the headline reads. And so that does worry me a little bit, but I think about Superman 2, and I even told you this,
Starting point is 00:14:19 I preferred Superman 2 over Superman 1, because I felt like Superman 1 at times was a little too. Campy. Like, Otis. and I feel like it just get toned down a bit in two. The only thing in two that doesn't make sense, honestly, is the cellophane S. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:14:34 The only thing that I didn't even, I've known about that since I was a kid, having not seen the movie, because like family guy made fun of how that made no sense. So like, that is the only thing about Superman 2 that I would be like, why would we do that? And unless Gunn does that just to be cheeky, that doesn't necessarily bother me.
Starting point is 00:14:56 me per se yeah I am like I'm telling you like the person that told me that carries a lot of weight with me you know about the humor because the first thing I asked and like no does not overpower it I was like great I was like that to me then I'm hopeful because that that particular person felt the same way I did with Guardians too that everybody got a joke and it just kind of deflated the story and the fact that they didn't feel that way about this one again I'm excited excited about it and it's just it is I mean it seems like everybody in their mother's hitting screenings right now I'm waiting I'm waiting I was like I've been I don't want to I don't want to buy been I've been I've been I've been I asked the one of Rose rep who've been so great
Starting point is 00:15:37 and I just was I don't want to keep because I heard there was another screening on like Monday here and then that the rep was like I haven't heard anything there and I'm like I'm and I literally wrote I'm going to leave you alone now and and I said ha ha ha I look man I got somebody that works at Warner Brothers and you know she I've been trying because like that she takes her she takes her husband to stuff all the time and they both know that this is the stuff that I cover and she's like yeah I I myself may get zero plus once it may just be me where they're doing this in a very particular way of yes they're they're giving these screenings out but they are also like really tightening things up specifically
Starting point is 00:16:20 with it's interesting actually it looks like it it just shows you how different the lands escape is now because I remember when when Ellis and I were doing um when we first got into the the press screenings in like 2010 or something and they were like YouTube what it was hard for us to get in right at all because there was only print critics it was only like the you know the the the hoity toady critics that were kind of getting and the legit critics who were like you know really um the well written I mean Alonzo Duralde is someone I always heard he's he's just he's I love Dono Alonzo and he's one of the he's a brilliant brilliant critic and like people like that were like that that was the priority for the studios
Starting point is 00:16:59 were those people have to go see this movie first whatever the movie was in 2010 the social media people that's not a thing youtube people wasn't now those people have priority over the the those critics because you see there's a tic-tac person got like two million views who went to one of these screenings and i don't take that person's opinion serious at all but they get into the screenings because they have an audience and they get excited about it and they're promoting it, which makes all the sense in the world. And they should be. Honestly, at this point, if it's a marketing thing, they should be. If you want the excitement around it, it makes all the sense in the world and people shouldn't
Starting point is 00:17:36 be bitter about it. That fact, it's just like, that's how it is. It's just how it is. It's marketing. Yeah, I guess I better start learning to do TikTok dances. Yeah, well, I mean, it's not even TikTok dances. It's like people just talking, you know, and getting excited. If you're overly excited about it.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And if you have a product, if you have a product and you, you know, like, okay, look, who do I want to go? I'm going to, I'm going to invite the critic who I will eventually invite. I'm going to probably, and I'll, I'll get them into the press screening, like week of the movie, but I want to give early screenings to somebody. Do I want to give it to the critic that might not like it? Or I'm going to give it to the enthusiastic TikTok person, who's life is Superman and wants to do anything to that they can to see this movie. I'm going to invite the person. I want the excited person to go all day. The only, the only, the only, The only thing about that that I think they have to be careful,
Starting point is 00:18:27 I still think that the ultimate way to go with this, you got to find a way to split the difference. You need to, like, they need to find a way to pair a respected critic with somebody that, like almost like a Wozniak and job scenario, and have them work in tandem so that you're getting respected opinions and not just I'm super, super hype about it, but you're still bringing the hype to it one way or the,
Starting point is 00:18:54 You know what I mean? Like there's got to be a way to marry the two because I think that's part of like half the people go, I believe that he's just a show for Superman. And then on the other half I'd be like, he hates everything. He hates everything. He hates everything. We've got to find a way to marry the two. There's two things though that, I mean, this is what I said like, where I think we had this conversation yesterday.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Like when Roke was talking about it's you can't take people seriously. He went a little to the extremes. You can't take people who are seriously who are walking in there with Superman shirts and everything too. It's like, you can take people seriously. It's like the thing is, though, it's the same, as you and I mentioned many times over, it's premieritis, right? And it's like, if you're going to, like, I am going to list for me personally. If I, if I would probably listen to the person that I spoke to yesterday and their objective opinion,
Starting point is 00:19:46 then I would, the TikTok person who's excited to be around and sit next to James Gunn. It's like, doesn't mean they shouldn't be there. It doesn't mean it's not relevant for them to be there. It doesn't mean that if you're excited too, you shouldn't listen to them because you share in their excitement. It means that for me, I'm not going to go, oh, you know what? A lot of people are saying that this thing is pretty damn good. The TikTok guy who loves Superman loved it.
Starting point is 00:20:07 I means I'm going to love it. It doesn't because I don't resonate with that person. I resonate to the person I was texting with today. And now like, okay, I'm a bit hopeful. You can't win. If you're in this space and you're reviewing this movie, you can't win. You'll get a guarantee that if you like it, you know, you're, you're still, I mean, remember last week when I was, or two weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:20:26 when the trailer came out and I had a couple of things to say about the humor and then the whole thing was basically about the fact of how like I didn't get it and I was wrong and I'm an idiot. And then the other day, the scene came out, which I really enjoyed, he's a DC shill, he's this. It's like, so you doesn't, and that's just not just me. I'm just talking about anybody in general. I'm just using myself. Oh, of course. Yeah. And it's like, so you have to just be honest.
Starting point is 00:20:49 You have to. That's the one thing. People always ask, like, what, how do I do this? YouTube thing. How do I do this thing if I want to do it? You have to, no matter what, you've got to be honest. You can't get lured in by, well, if I, I don't want the, the DC audience to kill me. If I'm, if I don't like it, they just destroy, not literally, but like it, but you know what I mean? Like if it's like, oh, what do I do? Be honest. Just take the hits, whether you're, you know, you love it or you're not. Like, if I go in and I don't like it and I don't like the humor,
Starting point is 00:21:17 I'm putting up the shield and getting ready for it. You know, same thing. If I wind up loving it, taking up, I'm taking the shield up. I know it's coming. And maybe that's just with experience. I don't know, but how do you feel about it? I mean, it's funny. One of my favorite rappers of all time is Lupe Fiasco.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And he had a song, I want to say on his third album. Yeah, it was his third album called Words I Never Said. And I've been listening to this song on repeat the last couple of weeks. but what? We're scared of almost everything, afraid to even tell the truth, so scared of what you think of me, I'm scared of even telling you. And the truth of the matter is this.
Starting point is 00:21:55 We are so afraid of being genuinely honest about things, like loving something, but still being able to criticize it, that a lot of times people do get caught in that trap. So they do end up looking like a Superman shell, or they do end up looking like an absolute hater, versus being honest about, hey, brave new world, I thought that Anthony Mackey did a great job.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I thought Call Lemley stole the show, but I have a lot of issues with the story. That doesn't mean that I am all of a sudden a Captain America, Sam Wilson, Hater. And it also doesn't mean by me saying that Anthony Mackey did a great job, that I'm like, this is the most perfect movie of all time. There is a legitimate, honest, nuanced mentality of going at it.
Starting point is 00:22:35 So the same thing you were saying about maybe the humor with Superman, with your example, you're being honest that you're like, no, this looks like it's going to be a good movie. That has me a little concern. That is okay. We can have two thoughts at the same time. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And again, like I said, I'm not using my, I'm just using myself as an example in general because like there's, um, I think that there's going to be tons of people out there, no matter what if, I mean,
Starting point is 00:22:57 it doesn't matter what, whatever property it could be. And I, I don't, there's, I don't think there's any property out there right now that if you like something, you know, you're like,
Starting point is 00:23:05 dude, I even said, I think like, we'll get into it later. Like, Ironheart is another example. Like, Ironheart to me is a, to quote the kids is a mid show, right?
Starting point is 00:23:14 and it's it is it's fine um i think i was it was better than i thought it was going to be the third episode to me uh was really good i thought there's some really good i think the crew is not good at all that they that they the crew is not good but there's a lot of different things that i thought worked there's a lot of things that didn't but oh man oh man can't can't say something's decent and i and then i followed it by i don't think the show's going to do very well you can't win you can't in and show you it. It is no fandom that you can, if you like the second season of Last of Us, oh my God, there you go, but you like the first season. It's like you got to, like I said, you got to be honest. You got to just do your thing. And you got to do the, as much as I don't
Starting point is 00:23:53 like Last Jedi. You got to do the thing. And that's the honest, the truth of the matter is, and that's the thing. You're right. You need to be able to stand on your own too. I disagree with you on Ironheart. I don't think it's like a plus. We'll talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think that it's fantastic. I'm really loving the show. I've got, I've got issues. I've definitely got issues. We'll do a full-on discussion about that in a little bit. Yeah, but all that being said,
Starting point is 00:24:19 the reason why, and I know you already know this, is because everything that somebody loves in this world at this point, whether it be a piece of art or media, a sports team, a public figure, a celebrity, whatever it is, because we've gotten
Starting point is 00:24:35 to the age of hate pays, you say you love something, 10 haters pop out the woodwork to make fun of you or to talk crap about you or whatever. You say you don't like something. 10 people that love something now become your hater to be like, how dare you say that instead of listening to what you're saying. Yeah, but I mean, and there's some people, there are a lot of people. I mean, look, I'll give this audience a lot of credit.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I really do. I give this audience a lot of credit. Like you see these conversations in this live chat very often where it's like, okay, I don't agree with you, but. And I like that. And I like that. And I will say this also. And this is, and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:09 if people will realize this or not. I took to heart recently people said to me, as I was the chat, they said, you're paying attention to the negative stuff too much and you're addressing it too much. And it's, and it just, it gets tiresome, which is not mad, mean. And I said, I look back and I go, you're right. You're 100% right. And I said to myself and I said to all of you guys, let's not address the nonsense.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Let's just not address it because the audience getting tired and they're the ones to count. you got to listen to the audience and that side and they're like, hey, look at us. We're here, given positive stuff, talk about us and they're right. They're 100% right. And so I hope that the audience has seen that I've been making a conscious effort to do that.
Starting point is 00:25:52 And I don't want to sit in the negativity and I don't want to address that or just bring that up too because it's relevant to what we're talking about in general with Superman coming up. But that's it. So anyway, I ask the audience, I ask you guys in general, what do you think about all this is Superman?
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Starting point is 00:28:16 They're really great. The link, we got it. I said, I'm down. Yeah, links in the description. So go and check that out. You're doing good right now, Winston, you got a shot. Yeah. 12.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Okay, 12. Okay, 12. Let's go. Just over 220 to, like, 20 to. What do you like 15 X to pull this off right now? He's in trouble. Okay. James Gunn, back to DC, guys.
Starting point is 00:28:49 James Gunn, what's he saying? Well, he's talking about inspiration and what is the driving motivation for the DCU? Well, this is what he says. James Gunn says he never looked at the MCU as an example for the DCU. Marvel and DC comics may both reign supreme in the superhero world, but their core storytelling philosophies set them apart. DC characters are typically portrayed as mythic figures, iconic near divine beings who embody
Starting point is 00:29:20 grand ideas like truth, justice, and hope those heroes often serve as aspirational symbols, showing humanity what it might one day become. Marvel, on the other hand, focuses on characters or fundamentally human first flawed, relatable individuals who happen to possess extraordinary powers. rather than distant icons, Marvel's heroes face everyday challenges like financial struggles, discrimination, and relationship problems, making their stories more grounded and emotionally resonant. The difference should extend to the film universes for the respective comic book publishers, and despite turning into a household name thanks to his work at Marvel Studios on the Guardians of Galaxy trilogy, James Gunn has confirmed that he rightfully didn't use the MCU as a template for the DCU. He said instead he used the HBO Game of Thrones and Star Wars, the latter of which he quite literally, a superman. reportedly begins the Star Wars-esque opening crawl.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Speaking to omelet, I can go for an omel. Guns is dated. Game of Thrones, not just the show, but the books, is what we're using as a reference for the DCU. Excuse me. You can see Batman and Wonder Woman banging.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I'm just kidding. The DCU is not the MCU. The MCU is kind of our world that has New York, it is the city or the city that, with super heroes in the middle, the DCU is a different universe, slightly different, slightly transformed. He continued. At the same time, I also draw a lot of inspiration from Star Wars, Game of Thrones, and other things that tell different stories within the same continuity. It's not about telling just one story. Game of Thrones built this reputation on we being complex web of separate stories rather than following a single unified narrative. Characters were often scattered across different continents, each with their own goals, conflicts, and alliances. These branching plot lines developed independently from much of the series, occasionally intersecting or converging only after many seasons, creating a sprawling, multifamily.
Starting point is 00:31:05 reticited tale rather than a lightly, tightly focused main storyline. Based on Gunn's remarks, the DCU appears to be following a structure similar to how comic books operate. Each film will stand on its own, reflecting a specific hero's individual storyline or run while still existing within a shared universe. Over time, these standalone narratives may gradually converge, culminating larger interconnected crossover events, much like major comic book arcs that unite multiple titles under one main event, event, or crisis.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Here's where I'm confused. And you can make me unconfused real quick. So Iron Man won, Captain America, one, Thor, one. Weren't they kind of like their own stories that eventually led to a big event like the Avengers? What's the difference? First of all, mic check because they've stopped for now. So I can hear you. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Just thinking it's true. Yeah, they were. And I think what ended up happening, which came a little bit of a trap once they realized that they could do. this, they started making it more Avengers kind of focus to kind of run back into the center here and to always be around the Avengers, always, because if you even think about Captain America Civil War, the running joke with that is that wasn't a Captain American movie. That was Avengers 2.5, which not that we weren't excited about it, but that was part of why I was like, why are we doing Civil War as a Captain America movie specifically because it was a massive
Starting point is 00:32:35 Marvel across event. You know what I mean? It's a little weird to adopt that story specifically for an individual's thing. And I think that that's where we've run into trouble is every single one of the MCU movies now is like, how is this ultimately tying instead of worrying about what is it
Starting point is 00:32:52 that Captain America is doing today? What is it that Thor is dealing with this week? What is it? We are constantly bringing it into how is this in the bigger fold. So if that's how they're starting and they're going back to the formula, essentially of phase one,
Starting point is 00:33:05 and you stick with that, except for when we get to this main point, I think they'll be fine. I don't think there's a difference in what they're saying than what the MCU originally set out to do. Yeah, I mean, I guess the proof will be once they actually start, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:19 showing what the movies are. And you go, oh, that's the difference, right? Like, when you see how they're actually put together, I mean, I'm sure James Gunn's head, he knows how it's going to relate to Game of Thrones and how Star Wars and those types of things as opposed to. I think that maybe there are still characters,
Starting point is 00:33:35 that's maybe more so now in the MCU that pop up in the same movies in the way that like Nick Fury did and in Iron Man 2 and Black Widow did and maybe that kind of stuff maybe it's like their own like no one gets involved until it's time to get above I don't know I don't I don't necessarily really know what that means per se um but he knows and that's a good thing like he knows what he is modeling this after and if he has a clear cut idea of what he wants to do and like no no no no the game of throne narratives and the way I'm structuring this thing out and letting this person tell this story over here. And this is our Westrose, because we're doing this over here. And there's so much history that's built out here. That's why we can jump
Starting point is 00:34:10 back and do a Sergeant Rock story, because it still takes place in the same timeline, but it not necessarily. It can be mentioned in something, but in the same way that, you know, you have like some of the Targaryens that are mentioned, you know, it's like they're never really, they don't get involved because they're long gone. And that's the same type of thing. There's a narrative that we have. And it's this big, huge world that it all kind of interconnects. I like that. I think that's great. but I'm going to see that when it unfolds on screen more so than kind of really trying to formulate in my head how he's going to make that work he's the creator you know now you mic stinks okay sorry I'm they're going again so I'm trying to find a sweet spot um no I agree and I I think the other thing that gets a little tricky a lot of these heroes for the Avengers especially
Starting point is 00:34:55 once they became Avengers are all in the same city all the time so it also makes it a little hard to be like, well, why didn't Iron Man show up versus like Batman's and Gotham? Superman's in Metropolis. Not that they couldn't go and visit each other, but they're focused on their own crap. And so I think, again, once the Avengers were fully established that way, they were always rolling with each other. And even when you look at their individual films post a lot of these Avengers eras, like, I mean, it, again, can feel like too many people are always invited to the party.
Starting point is 00:35:27 So I think one of the ones in phase two and three that's sticking. out more than anything are like the original Antman because yes you see Falcon but you see him for one scene as would happen in a comic run it's like oh Falcon how will Scott get around this for that one book and then
Starting point is 00:35:45 he's not in it the rest of the way but it sets something up versus again I absolutely love Civil War but by making that a Captain America film why is it that we're dealing with the whole of the Avengers the entirety of that film you know what I mean and so I think if he continues to let
Starting point is 00:36:01 this let it like make this in a way where yes we already know there's going to be a lot of people in Superman but it is been made pretty clear it feels like that's happening to make a point of the world is not dealing with superheroes the way that they should and Superman is trying to restore that idea so that to me is a little different only in the world to be like we live in a world with superheroes but there is one who is better than them all like that's that's if that's what we're doing, then I think that works. And you should really, don't emulate that every movie. Let Supergirl be Supergirl. Let, you know, when we get to lanterns, sure, we can see some other people, but focus on the lanterns. Don't bring other people for like an episode, you know?
Starting point is 00:36:46 Build on that lore on itself, because what it also allows you to do is when you build inside of that lore, it allows you to franchise out that lore more so too, like as opposed to say, well, you know what? We just demand a steal. And what do we do next? should we franchise out Superman and do Superman 1, 2 and 3 Bata Steel 1, 2, 3? No, no, no, no, no. Shouldn't we give Ben Affleck his own film first? No, no, no, no, let's jump to the big event. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Like, that's following, trying to follow the MCU in like on steroids, as we said before. But I think that they're going to go far past that. Guys, what do you think? Put your thoughts in there. Do you like this idea that, you know, this is a Game of Thrones type scenario, more so than MCU. And do you get it? Can you see it?
Starting point is 00:37:33 Put your thoughts in there, whether it is in the live chat, as you're doing right now, whether it's on the replay. And we hit 11,000 on the Clipsch channel. You guys have been really active over there, getting a lot of comments, a lot of people checking out,
Starting point is 00:37:45 all the stuff that we're doing. We've been clipping on a lot of things over there, just Christian Arloff Clips. You can find it in the description. You can also just Google it, Christian Arloff Clips or YouTube, whatever, and check that out. You know, Winston, yesterday,
Starting point is 00:37:57 I brought up to the audience the, you know, the fact we're working on this pilot and we're putting together like we're going to be put together with Kickstarter and everything too. We still, there's a, there's a slim possibility we might even try to do the whole damn season. But going into one particular thing, and I can't tell you, I was pretty humbled and kind of blown away with the amount of emails and DMs I got yesterday about people who were so encouraging about the fact that we were doing this and some, there was a, a, a, a filmmaker who reached out, him and his brother did something, and he's a New York guy. He said the same thing. He's like, listen, my brother did the same thing. We're really trying. So we're behind you. We're encouraging you. We want you to make this happen. Because I think that that's one of the things that I wanted to make a point of yesterday. Because I brought a lot, I took a lot of inspiration from what Chris Stuckman did with the crowdfunding on this thing.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And the idea that we are in a power position. And when I say we, I mean, the people watch this, the audience, like everyone that we're talking about original materials and things of that nature. If we want to, if we have the creators that want to do something, we have the power that the studios usually have, right? So it is my job to pitch and make the idea intriguing enough to the audience that they want to see it, that they're the ones that go, go ahead, make that, as opposed to putting the power in a couple people's hands and a boardroom and them going, well, we don't, we can't do this because we don't have this star attached. We don't have this person. Well, like, well, what do we make it look like a damn
Starting point is 00:39:36 Netflix show and they look like a Hulu thing and then have the audience have incentive and that they want to see it also? F the studio at that point. You know, it's like we, we become the studio. The audience becomes the studio. And the audience says, go ahead and make that, bring it to life. And you as a creator have to say, okay, well, I'm going to make it. intriguing for you to do that. If you want me to do that, then I will do that or the audience and go, no, thank you. We have something else that we want to watch instead, which is what they're going to do. So the amount of love that I got yesterday from talking about this, I cannot thank you guys enough. It meant a lot. So, and we're going to be asking the audience,
Starting point is 00:40:14 things and opinions and what they wanted to finish yesterday. I went through the outline. I finished the script. Not the full, not the full version of the script. Just a, a version of the script, probably like, oh, now I can really work off of that. Send it to to Martini, who she's going to work on it. And we're pumped. Dude, I mean, two things. One, I mean, you pitched it to me last week. It sounds fantastic.
Starting point is 00:40:39 It really sounds like you put something really strong together. And I can't wait to see how this thing evolves. Two, I fully agree with you. And that's actually why I'm really proud of my homegirl Cheyenne, who made, you know, the comic shop. But the same thing. She had an idea. She went to shot on her own dime. went out and won some festivals with it
Starting point is 00:40:59 and then was able to, the goal was to crowdsource, I think, like 100K, and they were able to get almost 300 and did a whole season that they're in post right now for. So absolutely, the people, you give them something they want, they will tell you, we want this, and then you can go make that happen. And then the last thing, which is a side tangent,
Starting point is 00:41:20 I don't know if you saw, but Matt Reeves just tweeted out that the Batman 2 script is done. Oh, wow. Yeah, here, I can send you the link real quick. I'll bring that up. I was going to do a different story, but we'll do that story. Send me the link, but that's hilarious. As I say, my script is done.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Matt Reeves said, hold my beer, as I said. All right, so you're saying, Luke might have just sent that to it. No, he didn't. There you go. I put in the private chat. Oh, private chat, you gave me. Okay, let's see. So let me just open this up, two.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Hold on, guys. And this is, okay, okay, okay. Where is it? Let's bring that up, bring this tweet up. And here is said tweet. There we go. Partners in crime. That's just all you release that man.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Okay, good. Well, I mean, that's, no, that's going to get headlines. That's going to get people talking. So, um, look, I think that this was kind of, it was interesting that, I mean, look, a lot of people, myself included, saying, I don't know, Superman, because Superman's going to do very well, Superman's going to do very, very well. Are they going to have two Batman walking around? It seems like with that cryptic tweet, A, well, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Yeah, yeah. A, will there be two Batman or B, will Robert Pattinson join the MCU? Because I'm going to tell you, I'm an MCU, DCU, I'm going to tell you that I think that this movie is going to happen now. If you're out there tweeting this with this script, one of two things. One, you've gotten the okay to do it. Or James Gunn's going, oh, F. I don't think he's that. Not when James Gunn has been a staunch Matt Reeves defender.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I mean, my favorite quote by anybody in entertainment in the last, like, year was James Gunn's being like, you know, how about we get off of Matt Reeves? Like, I thought that was genius. And so there's no doubt in my mind The first person he called being like, yo, James, we're good. We've got our draft in. We're ready to go.
Starting point is 00:43:29 And then they were like, okay, great. Let's do a little pop something. Do you want to do it yourself so that, you know, it's coming out of you? I think that that is absolutely the right move. And I would bet all the money I have that he ran this by gun first. Of course. I mean, yeah, because I mean, they're buddies.
Starting point is 00:43:46 You know what I mean? It's like, and like you said, James Gunn is a very big supporter of Matt Reeves. And he knows that the audience is a big supporter of Matt Reeves. Right. So look, if you can make some money off of this thing now, that's probably what they're going to do. I still think it's going to be confusing for audiences if it's too close. But.
Starting point is 00:44:03 So that was your other question. Do I think Pattinson's going to be in the DCU? I think it will depend on once Gunn has read the script. I don't know if he's already done that one way or the other. And I think it might just depend on what direction they're going with that story. If it's like, is this really going to be super confusing because we're doing X, Y and Z with this or do we let it go and go with somebody else? Yeah, I mean, the Mochetti still signed on, but I don't think that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:44:35 It's just if you have Superman and we just talked about this whole thing with the D.C. And how it's doing this Game of Thrones thing. Superman will be involved with the Supergirl aspect of it all. Obviously Green Lantern is a bit tied into it. And then the Lantern show will happen. Wonder Woman will come out next. So if you can get Matt Reeves Batman out within, you know, the next year and a half or so, you could hold off on the DCU Batman for another two and a half, three years,
Starting point is 00:45:10 which is still, it's a long time, but it's still, but you're essentially playing the end game. You know, you're the long game, I should say, rather. And if you do that, plus, it's like, look, we're taking our time. We're building this thing out. got Superman, we got Supergirl, we did, uh, we're doing this Wonder Woman movie now. Matt Reeves is finishing up his trilogy off to the side, the same way that the Joker did, and now we're going to bring him in. And it's like, okay, let's see, because I could be 100% wrong that the audience might,
Starting point is 00:45:41 the audience might actually, I could be right and wrong at the same time. The audience, the mainstream audience could be confused about two Batman, but the second part of that is they might not give a crap. that is that is more my thought is they might not give a crap um i also think because like here's here's the thing that we're i'm trying to think of a modern example of where this happened and the the one that pops to mind immediately is quicksilver and so you obviously had fox quicksilver and you had uh avenger's quicksilver now mind you a vendor's quicksilver lasted what a movie so versus the fox one continued to go so there's also a world where maybe part of why the batman two took so long is just
Starting point is 00:46:24 James goes, okay, we're not going to cancel your ish. Obviously, it made a lot of money. It's very good. I got your back, et cetera. But also, I need to kind of start my Batman story. So it's no longer a trilogy. You got this second movie. So do whatever you need to do.
Starting point is 00:46:40 They could break it into a part, like a part one and a part two. I can see that. But it might be a world where they're like, wrap that up, B. And if you're going with two, if you're going with number two, you're going the full route. because we all know that the second one is going to make money. It's going to make money.
Starting point is 00:46:58 And if you're going to make money, if you're going to go all out, you go all out, you finish it up. You're not just going to say, okay, you got two and then you're done. But I bring that up in the way of like,
Starting point is 00:47:08 I think about, you know, I don't love how the second matrix and then, therefore the third matrix ultimately ended up, but those were one movie that they split into two. Same thing you could make the argument with Infinity War and Endgame. Nobody was going to sit through a six-hour movie, but that was one movie that they just broke into two.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I could genuinely see a world where it's like, all right, right, I got you. Let me hammer out both of these movies. Here's your one giant script. And again, we just split the movies in Twain. Yeah, I will agree to disagree on that one. I think that if there's going to be, if they give him a second movie, he's getting the third.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And I think that I think it'll end with a cliffhanger. It was always meant to be a trilogy. I think it's going to be a trilogy. I think James Gunn goes all in on it. and you just hope that the audience, you got to establish your Batman in the DCU in a very different way, and you got to establish them kind of big.
Starting point is 00:48:02 And you got to just hope, like I said, yeah, the audience goes, wait, there's two Batman, and then their nerdy friend says, yeah, but actually it's this. Oh, okay, cool. You know, that's really, where yes, you can, the audience,
Starting point is 00:48:15 I still will stand by. I think the audience will be confused, but the other question will be, will it matter is the main question. The other thing that helps, I know that obviously time will age people, but the idea is that what? We had year two Batman in the Batman,
Starting point is 00:48:29 and I think this next one is supposed to be like year three or four, something like that. It's not that far off. So all that being said, we already talked about the Batman that has Damien is supposed to be older. So the other thing that might work in there, if they stick with that storyline,
Starting point is 00:48:44 the one thing that would make that easier is, okay, well, that's young Batman. That's a separate side story versus this, versus if they're the same age, then I can see people maybe being a little bit. Well, yeah, but that's, well, then you'd have to get actually, to that point, you would actually have to then get rid of that older Batman. Because Pattinson ain't going to be young.
Starting point is 00:49:05 He's 40 years old. It ain't going to be young by the time. They might have to continue to age him down if you're keeping him on the younger end of things. Or you're writing a different story now, and then you age down the Batman in the DCU and you go with the younger 32, 33 year old Batman, you know? So the fact of the matter is, Matt Reeves said, shush, here's my script, it's done, I turned it in, stop talking about it or talk about it more, but talk about it positively. And that's what just happened.
Starting point is 00:49:35 So Matt Reeves turns in his script, what say you? I want to see this conversation. I want to see it in the clips channel. I want to see it in the live channel. I want to see it on the replay. What does this mean for the DCU in general? Have a healthy debate. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:49:52 All right. So we mentioned earlier when talking about Ironheart. Poll and a spoiler discussion. I'm not going to go too much into detail on the spoiler thing. I'm just going to go into the fact that Ironheart premiered on Disney Plus and within its first three episodes, the reviews have been mixed positive. But we want to know what the readers think of the series. Marvel latest Disney Plus series Ironheart debuted with its first three episodes earlier this week.
Starting point is 00:50:19 initial reactions were definitely leaning positive. Full reviews have been more mixed, and the show has seemed to settle with a so-so, 69% based on 55, which I think is fair. I think 69.70% is a fair rating for their show. There was never really much hype behind it. Rearly, Simple wasn't a Marvel Comics character. The majority of fans had been clamoring to seek at her own series.
Starting point is 00:50:41 A muted response to her debut in Wakanda Forever didn't help, nor did the trailers that were released. Well, it's fair to say the anticipation for Ironheart was, exactly through the roof. The premiere does seem to have a few, made a few converts. At the very least, a few, a lot of viewers are curious to see what will happen next after the closing moments, episode three, that I agree with. And the tease of a major debut is sure to generate interest in the back half of the season. So I'm not going to go to the spoiler stuff there, because I don't know how many people
Starting point is 00:51:09 have seen this. But yeah, my thoughts on it went somewhere with this, because you know when we saw it, because Sam and I literally watched Black Panther and then her and I watched episodes one through three of Ironheart. And I feel the same way. Damn. What? That long day? Well, no, not in the, no, we didn't do it in the same day.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Oh, okay. No, no, no. We didn't say, what, 240s? So then it's 3, 45 minute episodes. I was like, damn, that's a lot of time. We didn't do it on the same day. We did it. It was within a couple days, but we, but it was enough to where she was,
Starting point is 00:51:39 Riri was still fresh in Sam's mind. And you know, as I, like, you know my stance on Black Panther, so the situation Ryan Cougar was in for that move. I think was an accomplishment all on itself. I think there's some things that really work. Overall, I thought it was a fine movie. Sam loved it. It's like one of her favorite movies in the entire movie.
Starting point is 00:51:56 She loved that. She loved it. But she also agreed that Rie was kind of forced in there, right? And I think that I still feel after watching again, she was definitely forced to promote this show that was announced in 2022. So going into the show, I was like, let's see what we got. And I think she's much better in this. That's not so she was bad in Wakanda for her.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I think she's given more justice in this show. You learn more about her in this show and her relationship that she's got with her suit, the AI or her Jarvis, if you will, best part of the whole show, right? All in Aaron Reich, really good. It takes a while to get going. By the time you get to the third episode, the third episode is the best episode, and there's a reason why they release all three at the same time. I think I disagree with critics who think that Anthony Ramos isn't good.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I actually think he is good. I think him and the guy plays his cousin are really good. I think everyone on that crew as far as characters should be fired. It's the worst crew that you could ever hire. They're the worst and they are not intimidating. The fighters don't seem like they're tough at all. The jokester would be bombing at a six o'clock comedy store spot. And the, and like every-
Starting point is 00:53:05 The jocester. The clownfish, what the hell's her name? A clown. Bomber clown. Clown. None of her jokes. They all thudded on the floor. Like it just landed like you could hear pin drops.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Horrible. And there's some stuff that just doesn't work. There's some stuff that's dull. There's some stuff that works. But like I said, I went by the end of the third episode, I went, it's not too bad. It's fine. I want, like I agreed with that part of the article.
Starting point is 00:53:33 I want to see where it goes. That being said, I'm not surprised the show. The show's not going to do very well as far as ratings go and you're not going to see a part two of it. There will, I don't, I don't think there will be a. part two, but I also don't necessarily agree that it won't do well, but I don't think it's going to be for the reasons that we think. I think what's happening right now, because we also, just the era that we're in, I think fresh off of sinners, knowing that Ryan Cougler is a part of it, I think all of the controversy back and forth with Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese, I think there's like a lot
Starting point is 00:54:06 of stuff going on. The word of mouth is building. And I'm actually starting to see a lot of black women specifically who I know don't mess. with nerdy stuff at all, all of a sudden being like, oh, what's this Ironheart show? Oh, and they're starting to. I don't think it's going to happen until it'll be a little bit, like probably just based off of how things are moving in the word of mouth. I think it's going to take a couple of weeks. But I think when it's all said and done, it's not going to be some mega blockbuster
Starting point is 00:54:35 or whatever, but I do think the numbers will actually be pretty decent when it's all said and done because the show overall is pretty good. and I am seeing that movement slowly start to happen a little bit. Yeah, I like the optimism, but I don't, I'm not going to agree with the statement. I just think that, yeah, I just think because the reason why it comes two, twofold. One, this was made in the time of Bob Chepec, quality, quantity over quality, meaning also, let's throw as much money into it as we can. So we don't know the actual budget on it in general, right?
Starting point is 00:55:10 plus the fact that there are, I think in the second half, which I haven't seen yet, which are bigger implications to the entire MCU that you may or may not get lost. I do think that the human story in this, though, could rope people in. They could get people interested in it because there are some stuff. There are some things that are like it's, this is where, this is where the crew annoys me, right? Because like, you get the stuff with Riri's past and what has happened to her and, you know, like the emotional stuff that she's going through, especially developing this AI.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And then it's just taken out. All of that stuff I'm feeling is gone once we start getting to the jokester crew. And like Eric Andre, I thought it was great. And I wish he would have stuck around. But they instead they replaced him with the jokester girl, which is, no, they replaced her with REEW. But I'm just saying the humor.
Starting point is 00:56:03 The humor is, he should be, he should be the funny one. But he's not. And so, there's mixed up. Like I said, the show is better than I thought it would be,
Starting point is 00:56:13 and I was more interested than I thought I would be. I just don't, I just think this is going to be one of those shows that does, because it's got to capture, it's got to capture the, in order for an MCU show to be a success, it's got to capture the entire MCU audience, and I just don't think it will.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I mean, if they are continuing to tip their hat because of the hood, and there was a line in particular, it's not really that much of a spoiler. If you know the hood, if you know who the hood is like at one point magical powers we've talked about it. At one point his cousin
Starting point is 00:56:46 is asking about it and he's like yeah you know he wrestled a demon for that there is implications we have been teasing over and over is Mephisto coming is Mephisto coming there is an implication that potentially Mephisto is involved in this one way or the other and that might be enough to draw people in to be like okay so what does he what does he actually have to do
Starting point is 00:57:06 with stuff? I also think that this is a blending because you have the magic and the tech thing going. I think this is also they found a way to potentially soft launch doom because that is Doom's thing. Doom's thing is that he marries magic with tech. He is a sorcerer on the utmost level himself. He is, uh, you know, a tech genius just below, you would say like Reed and, and, uh, Tony, but like really in that same conversation with them as is.
Starting point is 00:57:33 So I think by having the two of these kind of in here, I think we're going to get something, even if it's just a post-credit doom just being like you just see a glove just be like interesting something like that I think that's kind of what this is doing it'll be interesting to see how it ultimately plays and maybe they needed to get the viewers in because the other point we didn't make the problem
Starting point is 00:57:51 I think this movie was released at the wrong time this show was released at the wrong time it's competing against the bear last the new season it just came out and then Squid Game just dropped yep so no one is going to be talking about this show anymore
Starting point is 00:58:07 once those two shows really start to get into the popular zeitgeist. They're doing what Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man did, and that they were like, I don't know how comfortable we feel one way or the other, so just this is kind of in the middle of stuff, drop it in this particular sec. But last thing I'll say, again, just as far as outsiders looking in at this one,
Starting point is 00:58:26 my mom does not F with a single superhero movie thing. My mom has sort of asked me about Ironheart. So the same way you talk about your dad being like, if you ask you something about, that's all I meant really, like I had contemporary, people my age at a vast, but for my mom to go, who is this Rui-Wy girl? And I was like, do you mean Iron Arch? She goes, yeah, that's that new, that new superhero show is it good?
Starting point is 00:58:47 And I was like, you should watch it. But that's the magic question. Did she watch it? I talked to her last night. I will ask her when I see her today. I'll report back next show. Noticing it and watching it are two different things, though, right? But she would have never noticed it.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I think that's also part of what I'm saying. Sure. Sure, I understand. My question is going to be, though, you know, for, I don't know. And I'm curious to hear what your mom thinks if she does watch it. Like, if your mom sticks or because they drop the three episodes, is it one of those things where she watches the first one and says, okay, and I'll get back to the second one eventually.
Starting point is 00:59:23 And then does she get to it? Or does she just get so locked in? I just don't think the first episode locks she in enough to make you want to watch it. But that's, I agree with you that they needed to do all three because it is a slow burn. through these first three movies, the three episodes. And the third one is the best.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Let's make it very clear they were smart about what they were doing. But yeah, I think that they, it will be interesting to see. So yes, I will check in with her. I'll see. And she actually tells us through on it. I want to see. Okay, thoughts on Ironheart, guys.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Liking it, not liking it, watching it, not watching it. Put your thoughts in there. Let us know, again, live chat, both the replay and, of course, the clips channel all right let's get to well you know we're the questions now and before we do winsome what's going on in the channel man yeah um so i actually dropped a new video yesterday that i actually had a lot of fun making so i was mentioning before um about who i think is on sam's avengers
Starting point is 01:00:25 team now caveat for that i'm not saying who ultimately ends up on the overall avengers i'm talking about he was asked to put a team together who does he initially recruit and that's like the team that is currently suing the thunderbolts for trying to take their name so it was a really fun thing that i did there's a lot of humor in and a lot of cutaways that's why it took me a little longer than i expected but go and check that out on my channel youtube.com slash swaggy blurt and i've got another one that i'm going to hopefully get out next week before 4th of july but i'm going on vacation so there is a possibility it will come out the week after question for you yeah do you think I like Sam as a character.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I think from everything that he's done so far in the MCU. Do you think it was a bitch move to sue? I think in all honesty, because now that I talk about it, I did actually make fun of him in the video about him suing. It's a bitch move. It's a bitch. It's a, it's, I went with the Drake Kendrick kind of rap battle joke about Sam suing them. But I think it's probably from the standpoint of, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:37 unfortunately, Bucky had Valentina in his corner, and Valentina really blew up the Thunderbolts into the new offender, so he's mad. Yeah. So he went full Drake. We'll call it. It's a bitch. It's,
Starting point is 01:01:49 he's on the other team now, and it's absolutely a bitch move. Okay. So we got some that didn't, that didn't register inside a super, and sort of stream yards. So I do have, I have them here,
Starting point is 01:02:02 I think. The DX Batman, one, says, tell Megatron, let's tango. Peak Cinema is returning with Michael Bay's Transformers. Pass. You heard that, right? That he's, yeah, he's, Michael Bay is doing another Transformers movie, unfortunately. Why? Probably because the other ones weren't making money and they want him to, to Roka's point.
Starting point is 01:02:27 You know, like all the ones that he did, even though they were diminishing each and every time, they're bringing them back to do it. You talk about a guy who just doesn't get what that franchise supposed to be about. Box office would say otherwise, obviously, but yeah, he's coming back. It's terrible. My perfect day has sand, saltwater, and friends. But my moderate to severe plaquesoriasis can take me out of the moment. Now I'm all in with clearer skin thanks to Sky Rizzi.
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Starting point is 01:04:05 Coy was on the show today. He was already, he told this last week that he was kind of pre-booked with, I think Bill Rejects had already had him locked in to do something this week. So, um, Conor Mullis, oh, boy, it's Corky and Wilson. Here we go. Well, just Wilson. Sorry. Connor also says, Christian, what did you do to Corky?
Starting point is 01:04:24 We told him we didn't want his red-headed ass. Connor Moll is on a serious note. Not going to say much, but I recently just had a huge legal victory. Nice. And we'll be getting a big check. Nice. Cheers, guys. Good for you.
Starting point is 01:04:38 I have a big check. Yeah. All right. Did you sue the Avengers? So, thank you, Connor. Connor has been crushing. Winston, you are just a little bit away from 200. You have 30 right now.
Starting point is 01:04:56 So you need about 203 to tie Roxy. I can do that. 203 in an hour. Can you do it? I can do it? we'll see. Okay, Serge sauce. What format should I see Superman?
Starting point is 01:05:12 IMAX or Dolby? I'm having a tough time. I think you'd want to see it in IMAX. I think IMAX because if I'm not mistaken, I think they actually shot a few scenes for IMAX specifically. Oh, they definitely shot some for sure. So I would lean towards that always. Isn't the Odyssey, isn't the full movie shot in IMAX?
Starting point is 01:05:29 I believe so, which is that means that budget's insane. Because people ask, well, why are you? only shooting an iMacs for a couple of like key scenes did you know how expensive shooting i know it's one of the reasons that like i might i don't well probably not because they're probably going to release it but like you know they're going to let go of they're going to release the odyssey trailer we were wrong where we thought the odyssey trailer was going to be released at the end of the year we're going to release it before drastic world um which is you know in like a week so i cannot wait to see that trailer i cannot wait
Starting point is 01:06:02 That's like the most anticipated trailers since Superman. I can't wait. But yeah, I would say IMAX. Roham Ranger 95, going to bed but wanted to support the capes, even if there's no Calves today. Christian Grasping at Straws, when? Winston, more streams soon want to tune in and support if I can much so both of you. It's hilarious that you asked that.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I literally, so what happened with, I don't know about how people I told this. So in 2007, we shot this pilot, Grasping and Strauss, but I showed a little bit of it. Um, it's got myself, uh, Mark Ellis, Eliza Slesinger, uh, Yada Martinez, um, tons of people. And, um, it was, it was just like, it was something that we put together. It was, I was proud of what we, what we did. It was again, kind of a concept thing. Um, and we kind of had it as one big pilot, but then we kind of clipped it out and put his little shorts on the internet. And I didn't have a full version of it.
Starting point is 01:06:55 I couldn't find a full version anywhere. So, and I definitely didn't have it digitize. Ken Napsock actually sent me today, the full digitized, digitized version of it and send it sitting in my email right now. So I think what I'm going to do first, I'm going to edit. I'm just going to edit a couple little things on it. And then I'm going to make it a members and Patreon exclusive, like first. And then put it out on the on the channel, I think. But we're definitely going to live as an exclusive for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Roham, thank you. And much love for both of us. I really appreciate that. But yes, Grass commercial is coming very soon to the member stream. You guys will see it. And it'll be accessible to all members and all patrons, not just at one level. G-S-A-R-N-N-N-N-D.
Starting point is 01:07:40 I thought it was cool, pal. I just got around to watching Argyle over the course of three nights because I was pulled away on various things. I thought it was fun. Oh, I thought it too. I still haven't seen it. It's not good. I'm glad that you go.
Starting point is 01:07:51 I like Matthew Vaughn, but I really like Matthew Vaughn. It's a bad movie. And the re-end is absolutely ridiculous. So you say, don't bother. I don't think you would like it. Okay. I don't think you would like it. I never say don't bother because it's a matter of you.
Starting point is 01:08:15 My question is if you're at all interested, because I've seen that, not just you, other people, like I remember you, you and Roka and R.B.3 were having a conversation about some movie. I can't remember what it was. And then RB3 said, it's terrible. And I see a lot of the people say it was good. And he said it was terrible. And you know, well, I guess I won't see it then. I don't, I'd never recommend that point of view.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Because you, even if you agree with RB3, 98% of the time, what if this was part of that 2% and you missed that in a movie? If you were interested in it, if you weren't interested in the first place, who cares? But if you were interested, I never say, well, because that person said it was an even if I agree with them, I always say, like, for, for, people who watch this channel. If I go in and out of the theater reaction and it's a movie that you really want to see and I come out and I go, it stinks. You can go in disappointed because you usually agree with me, but I wouldn't tell you not to see it. I tell you to go think for yourself
Starting point is 01:09:08 and see it if you like it, but you can go, damn it, I usually line up with this guy. And then you can go, look, it's one of those times. I don't agree with you, man. You know? I feel that I think the only reason I'm a little more quick that if I trust typically somebody's opinion, that I'll, I will occasionally skip stuff unless it's just that big is because there is too much content out nowadays. So like I already don't have enough time to watch everything that I want to see in the first place based off of the things that I have to see. So unless it was like a, no, no, no, I really have to do that.
Starting point is 01:09:46 If somebody says, nah, man, it's not good. I'm good on that. and I had heard enough of people kind of saying that, then I was like, all right, I think I could pass. You know what I mean? That's more where my mind goes. But I hear you.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I agree. I think everybody should form their own opinions. Yeah, if you're interested, if you weren't interested in the movie in the first place, you know, like, I was kind of curious about it,
Starting point is 01:10:04 but enough people told me it's the farts that I don't care anymore, then that's one. It's like, I was kind of on the fence with this movie, and then everybody that I usually talk to says, don't see it, then I probably won't.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Yeah, but like, that's more my mentality. Like, if Bruce Springsteen an example, the movie if if i saw a bunch of reactions come out on people all that i like saying this movie stinks germany why is the wrong guy for this this movie stinks there's no world where i'm not seeing that movie there's no world i'm going to go in going oh man everybody i saw this movie said it was
Starting point is 01:10:37 terrible god i hope i feel differently you know um but i'll go in i'll go in bummed but i'm going to see it yeah i mean look that was me and little wayne's album is that i have been a massive little Wayne fan for a while I have seen the decline coming but I was like look, Carter 6 people are like, it's trash, don't listen to this is awful. He proved why you shouldn't have played the Super Bowl and I was like, there's no way
Starting point is 01:11:00 it's this bad. And I then I started listening I was like, oh my God, it might be worse than what they were saying. Nice, big balls. Thanks, big balls. He had to come in. He's been wanting to do that for a long time. So now,
Starting point is 01:11:20 Jeep, GoPow, he changed his name on me. He messed me up. I'm surprised none of the various twists in Argyle got spoiled, so that was nice. But I can see where I'd have been pissed if I paid money to see it. Well, here's the thing. Only anybody saw it, so don't worry about the fact that they didn't spoil it for it. There's only enough people saw it. It wasn't a big point of conversation, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Go pal comes in and gifts five memberships. Thank you. Good time again. Real good time. Like I said, you're going to get the grasping and straws. You're going to get the capes and cows. You'll get the capes and cows thing when we finally do it. You guys will get that first, but you can get the entire comic book,
Starting point is 01:11:59 especially for any members that just got gifted. Make sure you go read that entire capes and cows run. And then a live stream. We have a full live stream going. Our second live stream of the month is happening today at 430 Eastern time. Winston, you got plans today? Let's see. I got work until five and then spill the tequila and then I'm free.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Well, at 4.30, our time, like right after this show, you're busy, right? Yes and no. What's up? I was just say, if you want to hop on and say hello to the members, you can't have. I'll send you a link. I'll say hi for a minute. Anthony Geeky, hey guys, love the show. I'm excited for Superman movie, then Fantastic Four, which seems to be the opposite for most. The reason I've been following you since Shmosis is because you're honest.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Well, thank you, Anthony Geeky. I appreciate that. And as far as Fantastic Forger, we didn't really discuss the trailer. What did you think of the last trailer, Winston? I liked it. I am a little concerned that we know a little too much. I think it's possible that that's my nerd brain doing that. But there's, I think I know where this story is going to go already. And so again, that might just be because I know too much about the Fantastic Four in Galactus.
Starting point is 01:13:13 and the fact that we're moving into Doomsday Secret Wars, blending universes, I have a lot of thoughts as to what's about to go down. But I'm still excited for the movie. We've talked about this before. People need to be careful with their trailers. I wish they would stop showing it so much. But I will disagree with Anthony Gigi.
Starting point is 01:13:33 He says, I'm excited for Superman more than Fantastic Four. I think me and Winston are also. I think most people are more excited for Superman than Fantastic Four. as big as the Fantastic 4R, and they are, Superman is, he's in that S-tier. Like, we talk about him and Batman and Spider-Man in the same kind of breath scenario. You know what I mean? Yep.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Connor Mollis, do you ever just sing the alphabet for fun? I do. I am right now. I'm currently on the letter J. Yeah, well, I do with my daughter all the time. I unfortunately have to do it sometimes if I'm trying to put stuff in alphabetical. order. I can't be like. Okay, but who came, who stole whose rhythm though?
Starting point is 01:14:20 Was it the alphabet song or was it twinkle, Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star? Who stole whose, whose rhythm? And blah, blah, blah, black sheep. Yeah, well, yeah, but that, that came afterwards. But what, what, what was the, then, na, na, na, na, na, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I came first. I think, I think it's, I literally think it's, I literally think it's,
Starting point is 01:14:41 I'm not sure. No, no one knows. But I honestly think it's the same person that apparently wrote Britney Spears' songs because somebody just showed me that, oops, I did it again and hit me, baby, one more time, or essentially the exact same song just with different lyrics. Alan Smithy, at this point, based on trailers alone, I think Fantastic Four looks way better than Superman.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Galactus and Silver Surfer are giving me more than Superman. Production design also looks superior. I wouldn't go with that last part. I don't agree with the last part that the production design also looks superior. I dug the tone of the last Fantastic Four trailer, though. I'll tell you that. It got me, it was the best trailer that got me interested so far in the movie. I'm still Superman first, but I became interested in Fantastic Four after the last trailer.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Fair? Yep. Okay. Faint, 0903. I just watched your F1 out of the theater review. When I first saw your face, I thought it was 14-Diac-care because F1-Cube because of Cells. You have no idea how hot it was in that theater. Are you sure that it wasn't a 40X?
Starting point is 01:15:43 And you just didn't know. No, you have no idea. Like they, like, when you got the reps were, like, they were so nice. They were so nice. And they were like, they gave, they gave you a bracelet. You can get anything that you want at the concessions. People were getting beers or anything too. I did not get a beer.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I got myself, um, I got myself four smart waters. And I just put them just pits and crotch. Dude, I'm telling you. Like I told, I said this to, I think it was Steph yesterday. I, normally I drink one of those big smart waters and I'm peeing within like, 15 minutes. Winston, I drank four of them. I didn't pee once. Your body was like, bro, it's how we eat it for sweat. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:16:18 I didn't have to pee once in a two and a half hour movie. And it was, yeah, that was something. It was, whew, that was brutal. If it was in another movie, I probably would have walked out, but I really wanted to see that. Buster Barnes. Do you think Superman will be held under a microscope nitpick, more so than any other movie this year based of all the online discourse? Of course, it will be. Yes. Yes, 100%.
Starting point is 01:16:45 As we were talking about before. With great power comes great responsibility. I know that's completely different superhero, but that's just where that's going to go. Yeah. Yes, it will because because of that. And I'll tell you, that's not a bad thing for Superman. It means more people are going to be talking about it. And I do think that it'll get it out.
Starting point is 01:17:02 There's no world where I think this movie bombs. There's no world. There's no world. This movie is going to do very well. And I brought it up yesterday with a friend of mine who's not, into, well, he's into me, he likes movies, obviously, but he's not, doesn't pay attention to any of this stuff. And I said, are you aware of any movies that are coming out this year?
Starting point is 01:17:20 And he said, the Bruce Springsteen movie, because you just told me about it. He said, but other than that, I'm not sure. And I go, have you heard that Superman's coming out? He's like, yeah, yeah, I heard that. I know that there's a super movie coming out. I've seen that stuff like that. Yeah, so about Fantastic Four. He's like, no idea that was coming out.
Starting point is 01:17:34 He had no idea that tons, like I mentioned, a whole bunch of other movies, had no idea that these things are coming out. The only, the only movies that I know people know are coming out. because people didn't know even Sitters was coming out. As much as it did at the box office, like only people that were super into Ryan Coogler are ready for that movie. The only ones I know of are Superman and Wicked 2.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Just because... Right, right. I bet you he would have known. If I would have brought up Wicked 2, I bet you wouldn't know because of the kind of marketing that's funny. You're right. But I just showed how good the marketing.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Well, not just the marketing, but the fact that we knew the sequel was coming out the very next year. Yeah. And marketing, though. The Shea Markell just watched Stallone's racing movie driven. You know, I don't know if I've ever seen that movie in preparation for my F1. I've seen zero trailers. Good. Walking in Blindfield,
Starting point is 01:18:18 super fun. It's one of my favorite things. You know, I don't think, and I know so. I did not see a single trailer for F1. I only saw the teaser one time in a theater long time ago, but I didn't watch a single one on my computer, whatever, whatever. I just knew, oh yeah, Brad Pitt's that got some racing movie. It's my favorite thing to do now is not watch any trailers. If you're I don't have to. Like I watched, obviously I've seen the Fantastic Four of Superman, the Bruce trailer reacted to all of them, right? So if I'm reacting to them, but if I've done reacting to them, I do not watch trailers anymore. Like I've had people tag me on trailers and tell me I gotta check this out. I don't watch them because I love going into the movie
Starting point is 01:18:59 knowing nothing about it. Like that movie that was, what the hell was that movie called? The one with Brett and Sklinar and we shoot, it just came out recently, the one about the, I didn't know what it was about it. I didn't know it was a horror movie or a thriller movie where he goes to the woman's kind of being stalked at the table and being threatened to the table on the on the phone and people will know in the chat but it just it just came out not too long ago um and i need nothing about i love walking into movies going i don't know what the hell i'm about to watch one of my favorite things in the world i'm trying to think because i'm looking real quick at drop is the name of it drop okay uh i didn't know anything about micky 17 i just knew
Starting point is 01:19:37 it was Bondi and Bill. Yeah. Right. And that's, that's what I'm telling you, like, stuff like that. Armada 8. Y, T, if they're holding up superviews this long, it's not this long. Movie comes on July 11. Right. It's, it's too, it's too early. I actually applaud them for holding it. I applaud them for holding it because of what we just said before. They're letting people see it. And they can say you saw it, but just don't say anything about the movie. And people are, because they're not just relying on the people who love it. And they're not just relying on. They're going to let everybody see it,
Starting point is 01:20:12 but they're letting those people see it. And then they're probably once that drops and you'll have a bombardment of it. But they're, yeah, they're not holding it for that long. Unless if it comes, if all the, if the review embargo drops on July 10th,
Starting point is 01:20:24 well, that's a problem, but it won't. If you release within a week or even four days, you're usually okay. But this long, this isn't this long at all. I think that's the thing that people just don't always,
Starting point is 01:20:37 aren't able to, yeah. Yeah. Shay Markell, Christian, I know you have a channel to run, but I'm curious, guys. Are there any Fantastic Four or Superman trailers you wish you hadn't seen yet? All of them. Yeah, especially, I'm real talk. I really wish I hadn't seen this last Fantastic Four.
Starting point is 01:20:53 I actually, I understand why you say that. I really do. I get it. But for me, I think for this one, I should say, even I say all of them. I actually think I needed this Fantastic Four trailer for me to be interested in the movie, because I saw the other ones, right? The other ones didn't really do it for me.
Starting point is 01:21:10 I said, oh, that's not bad. This is the first trailer. I said, oh, I'm interested in this movie. I wasn't interested in the, after the first two, I said, okay. Again, what's a Marvel movie? And it's a fantastic four and I'm checking out. But like, this was the one I went, oh, okay. I really do hope.
Starting point is 01:21:25 And as speculation is growing wild that this ends very dark and that this whole place blows up. I'm trying to tell you, bro. I'm going to, that my name. next video is specifically addressing the Fantastic Four because of how I felt about the trailer. I will give away that much and I warn that the video will be what I believe how the movie is going to go. So, you know, I would love for people to watch it, but I also understand if you're like, I don't even want to think about it.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Right, right. Connor Mollis, would I make a good lawyer? Maybe in Gary Busey's court. Because he's been, you've been on the cuckoo edge lately, Connor. I just assume that he's because he's in England, right? I'm just assuming. I don't know. I'm not sure. Not sure.
Starting point is 01:22:12 He makes me laugh. So that works for me. 46. It's a good fight. It's a good fight. You're still fighting. You still got a long way to go. Jacob 3.
Starting point is 01:22:22 You watch Squid Games yet, Winston? Season 3 is out now. I have not started season 3 because it dropped, what, at midnight. But I and I had a doctor's appointment at 7 a.m. So I'd go to bed. But I will be watching it tonight. So. Christopher A.O. 2.
Starting point is 01:22:37 The way you described how DCU could work like Game of Thrones made me believe that the Batman will be combined, not going to lie. There's a possibility. It's a possible. It's a major news story if they do it, though. Major. You know what happens to Winston, too? You mentioned now the Brave and the Bold Batman that they wanted to go with that age. Pattinson is at that age now.
Starting point is 01:23:01 Yes. I just, he just, he is, he may be almost 40, but he still looks like he's ambiguously like 29 to 32. I know, but you can, but if you wanted to, though, you could make him, you could go, you could go down that round.
Starting point is 01:23:14 And if you went Batman, Matt Reeves, finish up the trilogy, make it part of the DCU and then make him part of the, you know, the next, he does a fourth movie and it's brave and the bowl. Be interesting.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Uh, Chim three, uh, or Chimer. Gunn claims he's more organized. in the MCU why is his trailers changing in color grade add and cut shots but fantastic four is consistent in all trailers go watch the trailers for a bunch of movies that have been advertised it goes it changes all the time i i get what you're doing but that's not the gotcha that you think it is
Starting point is 01:23:50 yeah and he's not more i don't know is he claiming he's more organized he's a lot going on with the mccuh in general i think he said that eventually what happened with it too much so i i don't think people too much try to do the yankees versus red sox uh shea markelle dennis oh denise Deni getting the new 007 film with the way he builds tension and the cinematography of his films. I truly believe this is my favorite bond yet. We talked about it at a great length yesterday.
Starting point is 01:24:14 I think this is one of the most brilliant moves that the Bond franchise could have done because now every actor is going to want to sign up. Yeah, I knew that he signed on. That's fine. I've never really checked necessarily for Bond based off of who's directing it. So, I mean, that's cool that they're doing that for sure.
Starting point is 01:24:32 I'm more interested in who is actually going to take the mantle. But that's kind of my point, is that Denise is such like one of those directors now that everybody wants to work with, that your potential of who you're going to get for Bond just skyrocketed. Buster Barnes. DCU Batman can still be a younger actor than Patinson, but more experienced Batman, although no doubt the internet would be annoyed by it. They'll be annoyed by anything. Of course. I mean, well, yes, you could have a younger actor. They need to look older.
Starting point is 01:25:02 That's more what I'm saying. is based off of what they're describing is Bruce. Because like I, you know, what recently, I just did something where I was playing somebody that was about like 24. As soon as I take all my facial hair off, I look extremely young. So like it happens all the time.
Starting point is 01:25:16 That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying they said they want the DCU Batman to have Damien, which means he's older and he's been in the biz for a while. Well, I'm going to definitely need you. We're going to have to shoot backwards because I'm going to need you to shave off. And yeah, we got it will look like I'm 21.
Starting point is 01:25:32 19, I think. There you go. The real red 5, 6, 7, Star Wars episode 7 tickets for 9 to 10 bucks did 1 billion. With tickets being 17 to 30 now, is a billion a big deal now and how do theaters and studios split the money?
Starting point is 01:25:49 The billion is a big deal because it's still a big profit based off of the budget that you are creating. And we did a whole breakdown. This is what I can say, because I don't want to go through this and read this again. Just say like how is box office accounted for it in Google? give you a whole breakdown on how the studios and the theater split the money. But it is a big deal still. Yes, it's maybe a little bit less of a deal, a little in considering what you just said. It's like a $7 to $10 difference, each one, you know, each ticket,
Starting point is 01:26:19 which is in the grand scheme of things a lot when you put together all those tickets, but it's still a billion dollars. If your budget is, if their budget is $800 million, then no, a billion is not a big deal. Your budget is $300 million. Yes, billion is a big deal. You can also remember, they do calculate that for inflation. So you can go and look that up too,
Starting point is 01:26:41 and it'll be like, okay, so then fine, Superman hits exactly a billion. And right now, Star Wars is episode seven was what, at like 1.3, but inflation is probably 1.5. So that's still a lot of money,
Starting point is 01:26:54 but like you see how they're still pretty close to each other in that regard. So yeah, it still matters. Anthony, oh, anything geeky. I want Robin or Nightwing. I understand others may not, but I think his character deserves a real chance.
Starting point is 01:27:06 I agree. I agree, too. I don't think you're, I don't think others, I think a lot of people feel that way. Dick Grayson really never got a chance. All we got was the Chris O'Donnell version and it just got a little too cartoon. Freaking close scene. It's the worst. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:27:24 It's, it's, it's, uh, Bruce and Dick fighting over poison ivy at the back credit card, bro. Oh, God. So bad. Red, mangoose, I want Jeff the Landshark in the MCU. I mean, why not? It'd be fun. It just, who do you think people have been complaining about it? Jeff the Landshark is literally a character.
Starting point is 01:27:45 He is a shark that has a little puppy legs. He like runs around and like think, think Rocket, but he can't talk. He just is like, like, you have a shark in the DCU that was the Sloan voice, didn't he? That's King Shark. He's like a giant, monstrous threat. Jeff the Landshark is literally like the size of a puppy. Okay. And but is like running around like a puppy on the lane.
Starting point is 01:28:03 It's, he's hilarious, but it's alone. You think Stallone's going to show up in the DC? Him and Gunner, obviously. So you are, you're going to show up again? Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't put it past him. Maybe you give him a one-off villain for a movie. Armada 8. Why, T, Taryn, Edgerton, New Show Smoke is now on Apple.
Starting point is 01:28:20 Anything Apple right now, give a shot. Apple is just crushed. They don't miss, bro. They're crushing. And again, F1, Apple. Armada. 8 YT. Jim Jones versus Nause. Nause.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Trippy, Chappie Jenkins. My worry for Superman. Fantastic 4 has Fantastic 4 and Galactus. Superman has crypto. Crypto. Lex Luthor, the Justice League,
Starting point is 01:28:48 2 Kajou and bad Superman. Like he can't carry a movie. Wait first. Wait first. You got to see and see what they said in those thoughts. Emotion. You got to look at the emotion. I mean, okay, let me also clarify really quick about Civil War. Because what I said, first of all, shout out to Trappy Jenkins.
Starting point is 01:29:07 I don't remember where I saw Trappy at, but I saw Trappy at, but I saw Trappy randomly out in L.A. And he was like, oh, I'm Trappie Jenkins. What's up, Winston? I was like, oh, what up? What I was saying about Civil War, it was two Avengers focused. I still do think that there was a little bit much there. But the story was about Steve trying to protect Buck, but also deal with his other best friend
Starting point is 01:29:28 now and Tony, who's flipping out on him. Right. I think again, if you come into this where, all right, we got the justice gang or whatever they're calling themselves, you know, being run by Maxwell Lord. And then Lex Luthor's up to no good. They're there, but I honestly think that Superman really is just going to be a juxtaposition. So the noise is going to get cut out about that. And we're talking to his parents. He's like, you've got to be a better hero, Clark. Like you got to be this. You got to be that. And it's going to focus on him, but they are around. I genuinely think they will be on screen maybe. 20 to 25% of the time while he's there the 90%. Fair enough. Timbino 21. What type of movie should Kaczynski direct next?
Starting point is 01:30:10 Well, he's already directing him. He's directing the UFO movie. He's directing the one with David Grush as a consultant, which is... Thank you. Thank you. He's one of those... This, to me, it's one of my most anticipated movies.
Starting point is 01:30:25 So that's his next one, and that's another Apple movie. 11th club fan. This is... Why do they keep changes? the change or not, Mike Joyce. You wake up tomorrow and you freak you Friday into each other's lives. What's the first major mistake each of you makes in the other person's
Starting point is 01:30:40 day? I would still not feel, if I was Winston, I would still not feel comfortable in any of the language that he uses. You would, you would do Chris Brown, the Chris Brown, Bill Dickie? Can I really say to you? Everyone would say, Winston, why are you so quiet?
Starting point is 01:30:55 You never just quiet. That's, I'm afraid that if I said anything that once I jump back in, I would get canceled. Nothing would make me laugh harder that you happen to wake up like while I'm at a function and it's just all black people. You just got to try and figure it out. Walking down the street say, excuse me. There's my garden hose is running down, tripping people up. What would I do a day in your life? Hmm. I feel like I would just be the most asshole New Yorker possible just because. Pizza. Well, of course, but then everybody,
Starting point is 01:31:28 hey, I'm walking here, you dirt bag. dirt ass uh matt krugman support can't wait for sinners tonight are you going to watch that tonight good what are your guys top five this year mine's 28 years later mission impossible eight marshmallow i didn't see that Mickey 17 and how to train your dragon those are all good ones um well f1's in there for me i probably would 28 years later right now in there um the sinners is definitely in there and i've got to check and see what else um But right now, those are the ones that really stand out to me. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Let me open up the last 90 days. I mean, sinners is number one. How to Train Your Dragon, I think right now is number two. I'd probably say Thunderbolts is number 3, F1, 4, and Final Destination, Bloodlines 5, maybe. Oh, that was a good one too. Yeah. That was a good one, too. I actually finally saw that one and that right now I mean it will get bumped out but I would put that in there in my top 10 right now the ones that I've seen
Starting point is 01:32:36 I like but I mean that's the whole thing is I liked Mickey 17 I think it could have been better but I liked it but yeah that would probably be my five yeah um the Shea Markell I think Superman's suit looks mostly awful I hate the trunks but I'm very excited to support and see the movie I'm just here to have a good time okay Um, that's fair. That was one that apparently for some reason got lost in the shuffle. Oh, okay. I don't know why I did. Um, I'm looking at someone else said that there was one that they are holding. Still looking if there's any more in here that we missed. The way you described how this you were. We did that already. We did that already.
Starting point is 01:33:16 The knee DCU Batman could be younger. Actually, the Batman's more experienced. No, we did that too. Sorry, I'm just looking to making sure. No, that was it. Okay. Um, trying to see what else. That was all the ones that they said it makes Luke. If there's anything else I missed, let me know. D. Reallis, thoughts on Punisher in, in New Day. Okay, and it's special.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Hilarious about the brand new day thing. I've actually even known about that even though Roka will disagree with me. I've known about that longer than Roka did. I just said it's amazing about it. And then Roka was the one who actually reported on it, and then his scoop stolen from him from Mali reporter. But I think it makes a lot of sense. I like it, like that he and Spidey are kind of,
Starting point is 01:33:58 hunting the Hulk. It's great. And especially, apparently they're going to start shooting real soon, too. So I'm excited to see that. Word. You? Yeah. I mean, I, I, I just like what he does with the character. I think Bernthal just crushes the character every time he does it. So I'm just excited about it. The more I get to see him be that character than I'm in. I, you know, I'm curious to see what they do with him in Spider-Man, but, but for now, that's where I'm at. Okay. Next one here is Timbino 21. How incredible. incredible is the iMacs screen at amc lincoln square it's pretty good it's a really good one i mean i go there fairly often where those are the ones it's usually lincoln square is the one probably
Starting point is 01:34:38 screens the most the screenings the screeners i've been going to the most of that one the time square one amc and then for regal it's the one in union square those are the ones i've been going to the uh the universal city amc is fantastic that's another 70 millimeter screen i just don't like that theater because the seats are really tight right Um, okay, let's see. Next one after that. Noah S. 2000. Apparently, Amazon wants someone under 30 for Bond.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Who'd be your pick with that in mind? Yeah, the younger actors, that's to me now I'm going, you got to give me a list because I still think Aaron Taylor Johnson's going to get it. I really, I don't know, how old is he? He's got to be, what, 35? He's got to be my age, almost 38. I'm 37. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Aaron Taylor Johnson. 35. 35, okay. So I would say, I still think 35 is, is young enough to, I'm, I'm pretty confident they're going to get him. I guess the question is they're trying to figure out how long are they planning on running with this person as Bonn. Also, the idea that those movies just don't come out with the speed of other ones. So if you're trying to take your time with this one particular actor. Yeah. Armada.
Starting point is 01:35:54 New story. Michael Bay developing new Transformers. Hey, we already talked about this. Stop this. Trey Porter. I saw F1 yesterday, my mom. The movie kicked ass. Top 10 movie the year for me.
Starting point is 01:36:06 I haven't heard anyone say anything except how fun the movie was. And I haven't heard a bad thing about it. I love that. It's funny. I don't think I knew going into it. I wasn't paying attention that it's the same director from Maverick. I thought the comparison was just because old head. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Exercising demons dealing with a young kid. Probably both. Yeah. Trey Porter, I don't know why, but when We Will Rocky came on before the first race, I got Tiriott. I don't know why. I guess it's just feeling I had watching. It's like this is effing incredible.
Starting point is 01:36:37 The way that the races are shot, you feel like you're sitting in the car. You feel like you're sitting in the car, and it's going around the track. And even there's a couple different times when he's racing around the corner. And I went like this. I was like, because you feel like you're in the car. It's so well shot. You've broken me, though. I find myself listening to,
Starting point is 01:36:54 scores and scoring more now than I ever have. And I am genuinely, I don't know who is going to win if it's going to be Zimmer or Ludwig for sinners. They both knocked it out of the park this year. Oh, so you did CF1? Yeah. I didn't know that you saw it. I put my out of the theater reaction on my review is going to go out of it tonight. I didn't realize that you had seen it.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Yeah, Mr. Dave 2K. My super chat was lost to the void, sending a variety of, points Amazon's wish list for 007 are Jacob Lordy, Tom Holland and Harris Dickinson. Yeah, I didn't see that one, Dave. I just searched through the whole thing. I didn't, I didn't see it. Maybe he didn't go through. So Jacob
Starting point is 01:37:37 Allorty, I don't know. Tom Holland, no. I love Tom Holland, but no. Yeah, there's a variety article here. I don't like any of the three of these options. I don't like Jacob Allorty. I don't like Harris Dickinson and I don't like Holland. I don't think those are all bad choices. Not because they're bad actors. They're all
Starting point is 01:37:54 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know Jacob Allorty enough? Euphoria, if I remember correctly. I'd watch that. And then who's, wait, Harris Dickinson's baby girl. Oh, Lordy Saltburn, Saltburn, and then Dickinson, baby girl. Dickinson is the only one out of those three that I'd like, yeah, that's interesting. I like Tom Holland, but first of all, Tom Holland's first thing, Spider-Man.
Starting point is 01:38:16 He's Spider-Man. He's a, you can't do Bond also. No, no Tom Holland on that. That would be a terrible choice. That would be a terrible choice. I love Tom Holland. Terrible choice for James Bond. This is a great one too.
Starting point is 01:38:28 I'd be okay with this. Taryn Egerton for Bonn. I would love Terran Egerton for Bond. He's perfect. Perfect. He kind of did the... And now you get to go do the real thing. Yeah, yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Someone's secret invasion was good. You should watch it. I would rather light my feet on fire. Noah has 2000. Listen, give me a smooch. Christian, you can watch. Whoa, Noah. Come on me.
Starting point is 01:38:49 I don't kiss for free. I guess he did say that I'm super chat. Yes, you do. Anthony Geeky. Hey, I'm not Anthony Geeky. I'm anything. Hey, I just said it again, Anthony geeky. I did it twice. You recently changed by a display name from Boston lady, so now I think you can change it back. Thanks for the constructive criticism.
Starting point is 01:39:07 I just did it again, Anthony. You leave it. You just put in respect. Go, pal. To Winston's point, I decided to put on Argyle instead of one of the things I was more interested in because I didn't think I'd be able to concentrate. Fair. I do that.
Starting point is 01:39:22 That is actually also a good indicator of whether or not I'm really into a show because that's what ended up happening with the last of a season two. I think I said this last week is that all of a sudden, instead of sitting down on the couch and like, let me watch this, I suddenly found myself being like, I got some work to do. I'll just put it on the second monitor and just let it run.
Starting point is 01:39:42 It says a lot. I don't know what's up with the name change or how to change it. Yeah, it seems like it's happening to everybody. I don't know why they change it to everybody's name. Can you say what happens to Brad Pete's feet? and f1 no i don't know what that means um no it s 2000 any early guesses of who the villain of batman too is mr freeze i really hope it's the court of owls but i've heard a lot about
Starting point is 01:40:07 mr freeze i think clay face might show up obviously that's we're doing the the is the movie supposed to you or that's supposed to be part of the batman i don't think yeah clay face is dc u yeah if you do put Clayface in it, then you'd be interesting way to combine it. No S-2000. It's really funny watching all the people who swore up and down the gun was canceling Batman 2 crash out over Matt's picture. Hey, listen, I'll be, like I told
Starting point is 01:40:31 you guys, and I hope that you believe me when I say this. If I'm wrong, I say I'm wrong. And if it turns out, that turns out to make this movie, that hey, let's see it. As I mentioned earlier before, I think that maybe there's a war. I still think if people will be confused, but my second follow-up to That is, I just don't know maybe if anyone will care.
Starting point is 01:40:52 If it's good. If they're both good and they're both, and if you're interesting, they're interesting. Pinwheel reviews. I just watched Blade Runner 2049, rewatched. Such a great film. I can't wait to see DeNevely and his Bond movie. You know, it's funny because when I originally saw the Blade Runner 2049,
Starting point is 01:41:07 I said, that was good. I watched it the second time and thought it was really good. Did you see it again, Winston? You haven't seen it. I still never seen the Blade Runners because I thought she told me to hold off. I probably did one. we thought when you know and I still live there but we got to get you once you get here we got to try
Starting point is 01:41:24 it we got to do at least two or three movies so we got to yeah Connor Mullis I live in Iowa yeah see I'll live in your thing I think you were thinking of Carlton Winston I don't know why I thought Connor was in the UK I thought he was in like Ireland or Scotland or something I think that you're thinking of Carlton Carlton is in the UK Carver 94 I think you boast so much for the work you do thank you
Starting point is 01:41:46 Barbara very kind of you 64 Winston 64 so close so close Trey Porter thoughts on Joseph Kaczynski's saying that he came up with a dream pitch on doing a crossover with F1 and Days of Thunder
Starting point is 01:42:01 oh my God you do the sequel to F1 but it was also a sequel to Days of Thunder sign me up because I never saw that back in the day is that also a Formula One? I don't know if it's Formula One people who tell me that that's where I
Starting point is 01:42:17 start to lose my expertise on, but it's, I mean, it. Oh, NASCAR. Days of Thunder 2, obviously still in early development, but I'd be interested in seeing it. Oh, bro. Hans Zimmer also scored Days of Thunder? It makes sense. I would love to see that. What a great way that would be to combine it.
Starting point is 01:42:35 You do an F1 sequel, but it's also a Days of Thunder sequel. I mean, Jerry Brock Hyder films also produced it. Come on. They kind of like said that. Come on. And the relation, and Tom Cruise and, and Brad Pitt took a picture together at the at the F1 premiere. Come on. Let's do it. I mean,
Starting point is 01:42:53 they're out here building a racing cinematic RCU. 100% 100% sunny is Brad Pitt's character. I forget what Cole. It was Cole. Trickle. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Better name. Well, at least his name's Cole, not Dick Trickle. If Superman turns out to not be as good as it's hyped, do you the media will be honest about it what aren't the wins for marvels what what why aren't the wins for marvel as loud as the else well because there haven't been a lot of wins lately that's why the wins it and and what's a win like because i deadpool wolverine was a big was a big loud win that you remember they were coming off of a lot of fart balloons and then they it was that was a
Starting point is 01:43:38 that was a loud win they haven't had any words coy's not here so i will i will do a sports analogy here. When you have a team, say the Lakers or the Celtics or the Patriots or the Cowboys or whoever that has won multiple championships that have been a dynasty, a playoff win is not the same thing as winning a championship. So in that particular case, there have been some pretty big wins for Marvel. The last one that was really talked up like this was Spider-Man. Obviously, Guardians did well.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Obviously, Deadpool did well. But Spider-Man was in an upper echelon because they were pushing almost two. Like, didn't they hit like 1.5? 1.3.1. Some, some big, big number. Right. So that's, that's why is that when you have been to the destiny or the, the dynasty promise land, a playoff win doesn't do it. Right. Uh, Isaiah. So the answer to the first part of that question, by the way, which is will the critics be honest with it? I, I think the answer is some yes, some,
Starting point is 01:44:36 not necessarily not honest, some might get carried away with some of the hype. It's very, it's very true. It's very possible. and there are times like, look, I will say, it's many times over there's been, there's been times when I've gone to something and I've gone, and I've, like, even when I look at like,
Starting point is 01:44:51 there's certain movies that I went, and I remember going seeing, and when I, last Jedi is a perfect example. Walked out of Last Jedi when I saw it, and I didn't even tweet about it. And I said, I don't know how I feel about that movie.
Starting point is 01:45:02 I don't like it. And then I went, you know what? And everyone's like, you got to see it again. It's a good movie. It's really good. And I said,
Starting point is 01:45:08 I got to check it out. So I went the next day. And I still stand by. it's a very well-made film and I went by and and I saw it the second time and I was like, oh, maybe that was a good movie and I'm kind of convinced myself that which again made made well. It was when we started doing rewatches and things for like Sith Council and other things. I'm like, I can't stand this movie. I don't like watching it.
Starting point is 01:45:32 I don't and I rewatched it with Jamie Costa at one point. I didn't like watching it and didn't like it. And I kind of convinced myself the second time, you know, like it's kind of like drank the coolate on it from the people I was hanging around. And I'm like, oh, that was, uh, that was, I did just not how I feel about it. But I think you can get also put in a position where you're like, you can, I think people don't understand this. You can acknowledge something as a well made film. You can understand that some, like Ryan Johnson is an excellent filmmaker. And I think it is ludicrous for people to hate him. If you think, you know, one movie, looper, great, uh, freaking,
Starting point is 01:46:08 I always mentioned it. Breaking Bad, some of the best. episodes of I like Knives Out. It's a great filmmaker. I just don't like his interpretation of Star Wars. That's what I was going to say. You also admitted that it was a well-made film, but you think that it was taken in the wrong direction. Yes. That's that's those are
Starting point is 01:46:23 two completely different things. And that goes back to our first conversation of people somehow cannot hold water for two things at the same time and that doesn't make sense to me. Because as humans, we do that shit all the time. You can you're, anybody here that's married,
Starting point is 01:46:40 I guarantee you've seen somebody else walk down the street, go, man, that person fine as hell, but you're not going to, maybe you are, but you're not going to go cheat on your spouse. You're like, I'm married and I'm with my spouse, but you can acknowledge that somebody else is attractive. Two things can be true at the same time. You can also use a voice. Hey, that's a nice, honey.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Come on, big balls. Big balls, dude. Come on. Isaiah Smith, can't wait for Sam to see Loki season two, Guardians and Lord of the Rings together. Right around the corner. We're just waiting. We're doing Iron Man, Iron Man, Iron Heart next.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Then we get, someone's like, why are you skipping Loki? Why didn't you do Loki already? I was like, because it's not time. They said, why did you, why are you doing Quantumania before Loki? It makes no sense. It's like, what do you mean makes no sense? It literally is the post credit scene. The T's for Loki season two.
Starting point is 01:47:28 What are you talking? Exactly. The order it also came out of it. Yeah, exactly. Desert Rider, 1973, just saw we are coming up seven years losing the King of the Sweaties. with all these huge comic movies, wish we could have heard his thoughts. I'd love to see some of his stuff
Starting point is 01:47:43 and some of his thoughts on this. And I would love to see him just combat some of the stuff that's happening. Now, he'd be so excited for the Superman movie. What if quantum media was actually brilliant and the only reason we don't understand is because John isn't with us. He could have broken it down and says,
Starting point is 01:47:59 well, actually, why it was exactly. I think about that sometimes. Well, speaking of quantum mania, by the way, so people are going to be asking, where is the quantum media reaction. So bomb this morning. Usually what happens that the editors will send it to me.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Like, okay, time to go. I requested that it's ready by Friday morning. Walk up this morning. Wasn't in the folder. What the hell's going on? I looked at the messages. For some reason, like I hadn't sent them the movie. I sent them the reaction.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Didn't send them the movie so they couldn't splice it in. And so it'll probably be out tomorrow morning. But I don't want to spoil what Sam thought of it, but it's an interesting reaction. Trappy Jenkins. I saw Winston at L.A. I was marching with Ace. Nice. There you go. There you go. Eric! Henderson shot 98-0-2. Mr. I crap and shits. YouTube isn't showing our handles.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Hope you guys have a great weekend. What is going on with YouTube? Why are they doing this? This East Coast heat wave has been robbed. It's better today. The last two days have been nice, but man, the last, I mean, it was, my whole family was trapped in two rooms. Oh, God. Oh, no. It was a heat box in that place. Joe, for show, will I regret not going out of for drinks tonight. Yes. Go out. Probably. I saw F1. I had a really good time and those race scenes were awesome. The race scenes were the
Starting point is 01:49:15 best. Fantastic. Did you see an IMAX, Winston? I saw it in Prime. Okay. That's still pretty good. It's still pretty good. Armada. F1 was good. I wish there was more story. I mean, it was story. It was just kind of a predictable story. Story, though.
Starting point is 01:49:31 It's again, and that's why I think in my brain, people were comparing it to Maverick. It is a dude with unfitish. business and a young kid that needs to learn something and they lock to each other it's an old blockbuster and I love it um Jesse chameleon what's up Jesse more support I love how fantastic foreign soups feel epic they do both feel epic it's true it's true uh Winston this is for you Curtis who is Santana and it's good move good for a movie villain uh Zatana
Starting point is 01:49:59 is in like the hero Zatana is in like yeah I I don't think that she would be a good villain. She's always a hero. Unless this is a different character that I'm not She's a thousand percent A female superhero. She's dated Constantine. She's dated Batman. She's never been a villain. So I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:50:25 Drifty 1290. Would you respect a lower budget X-Men first film? Yeah. I mean, look, it doesn't just mean, I want to make this clear. Just because a movie is low budget, it doesn't mean it's going to be good. It just means that, you know, sometimes when you have a lower budget, you challenge the filmmakers to be their creative selves and the actors to be creative.
Starting point is 01:50:46 And it's like, you know, the Rocky syndrome of it all. So I would love to see that, but it doesn't mean it's going to be good, but it just depends. They're not going to be a low budget X-Pen movie, though. It's going to be a $200 million X-Mobile.
Starting point is 01:51:00 Yeah. Tyfer, Fyfer. Tyler Fyfer, would love to see Hugh Grant as Magneto. No, no, no, as M. in bond oh in bond that'd be interesting yeah oh i would i would i actually would roll with that i i mean i only only see him as the as the you know the oh my god you're just so you're just so beautiful like just very just mumbling lovers yeah yeah unheard sirens incorporated i think batinson will be rolled into the dc u because of money it's a good way to make money i mean it really
Starting point is 01:51:34 is you just got to get matt reeves on board Yeah, I think so. Lim T. Shocker, Boys End the Hood or Menace to Society? I would say boys, the hood. I just, they're both fantastic. I saw boys first, so it just kind of, it has that emotional weight. I haven't seen menace in a while, but Boys and Hood, I can remember every bit about it. Jamie, baseball and two, knew I loved Winston, but after the Little Wayne shot, I love me more.
Starting point is 01:52:00 But yeah, the Carver of the Four is hot dog water. Weezy still might go. Thanks for all you guys do. Big Balls is upset. He also gave a little way to shout out. That's true. He did give a little way to shout out. But it's, you know, there's been a lot of talk in the NBA about what can decisions late in your career affect your legacy.
Starting point is 01:52:20 I am starting to get to that place with Wayne where he is still in my Mount Rushmore personally for rap, but he can't ever put out another Carter Six again. Like he has got to either write off in the sunset just doing features or he has to come back with something fire and then go out like that. but you can't this you cannot continue at this clip there's just balls right in my face um all right let's see next one here and this is from chimera daniel sherman 39 would be a perfect double 70s great actor he's british and he has that sophisticated british look you agree chat again i don't know let's see daniel sherman good looking dude um let's see fear the walking dead teen wolf i don't know i don't really know much about this guy can't say um i'll tell you it's funny if he wasn't batman robert patinson would be interested too i mean yeah
Starting point is 01:53:22 honestly can you king i don't know how they do it but tom cruz and brepid knows how to capture that 80s movie magic and joseph kizzynski give him the credit too in water movies loved f1 sequel bait sequel bait sequel bait i forget what was it oh like i mean not really that last scene. Nah, that's just, it just felt like he just went back to business.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Yeah, just showing like what he, what he does. Yeah, but I love, I'm not going to lie to you. I love that idea of the Days of Thunder crossover. I wanted to do everything in my power to make that happen.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Trey Porter, which is nothing. And it's fitting that F1 and Days of Thunder came out the same day, 35 years apart. All the connections are right there. I'm telling you, it makes all the sense in the world. And there's no one machine possible.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Now I need. to watch Days of Thunder and then go rewatch F1 and see if there is an actual like there's a little Easter regular through line sitting there other than the fact that Zimmer and Brock Brockheimer produced and don't put them on the same team have them compete against each other absolutely got it got him um soul nightmare the Batman part two script is finished yep we we talked about a little earlier Winston brought our attention to it uh Matt Krugman Winston have you played days gone might be my favorite single player story game ever.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Story's so good and which might be a great one for you to Twitch. Okay. I have not played days gone. Have you heard of it? I haven't, but it also looks like it's PlayStation and Windows. I do have, I still have my PS4. I just, I don't trust Sony right now because I got hacked and they were not helpful. They were incredibly not helpful.
Starting point is 01:55:02 But I'd be down. Valley Yankee, 100% at Deserat, 1973, long live Schnep. Hell yeah. Hope you guys mentioned him in the upcoming comic book. The comic book itself is done, and I don't believe that there's a reference to the big man in that, but we can definitely dedicate the... Dude, I think so. We should have, we should, the read just if, if wicked art can just put like a last little image of like the him in the sky just smiling down, I feel like that'd be a dope ending to the,
Starting point is 01:55:30 to just add that on the last page. This is hilarious. Unheard sirens, incorporate it. Big Ball is just the unfiltered part of Christian Hall. if he can't be anymore because he's married with children. I don't know what you're talking about. It's not me. It's a completely different individual, guys. I probably else.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Yeah, man. I'll tell you what, Winston. What's up? What's up, Big Balls? Even when he's not looking. I had in the gym bag. And I look at all the hindis in the gym. Jesus. I do.
Starting point is 01:55:57 I say, hey, look at that honey. And they're doing squats. And I said, will you squat on me? Come on, Big Paul. Dude, come on. Unbelievable. This guy. But no, I would never say anything like that.
Starting point is 01:56:15 Afrin Myers, given in a chat. Thank you, sir. Eric, crap and shits, is Sam going to see the special presentations? People have been, keep asking this. We're able to by night. Yes, by Halloween. Guardians Christmas, probably before we watched Guardians 3 because it's relevant to Guardians 3. Also, I live near Lake Erie.
Starting point is 01:56:33 The community has been torturous. It's horrible. It's so bad, dude. Humidity is is that sounds like some Houston shit rough rough there is The Frannie Myers can you all name a character that's three actors in a row that could beat the spider-man trinity in terms of quality Bibiani just answered this for me can I an actress three I could beat the spider-man trinity in turn a character that has three actors in a row Spider-man Trinity I don't know what he means me as far as of quality of I guess movies or an identity born the born movies but I guess you need three different actors.
Starting point is 01:57:08 Oh, is that what you mean? Yeah. So like Bond, would Bond count? Bond would count. I think that if I'm understanding this, Bond would count. Yeah. Batman?
Starting point is 01:57:20 Yeah, Batman. I don't necessarily know if we're answering the question to the way he wants it, but I think Batman, Bond. Because Batman, especially the last three, say what you will. Christian,
Starting point is 01:57:33 Baal, Michael Keaton, Ben Affleck. I mean, it's pretty, pretty good. Well, not even that. If you're saying the last three,
Starting point is 01:57:39 so then it would be Christian, Bill, Ben Affleck, and then Pattinson. And I don't, I'll take that. I think we answered that?
Starting point is 01:57:46 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Zach Briggs. With Superman returning to a more fun, lighthearted tone. Would you like to see, what are the Joker's in a little? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:55 Would you like to see James Bond return to the quirky aspects of previous versions of Bond? Not with Deney. No. With Deney, I want to see a more serious kind of Daniel Craig
Starting point is 01:58:04 kind of Yeah. Bond is one of the few that I don't think you change tone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, no, I don't want to see a change. No, no. Faint 0903. I know your reaction videos with Sam are usually an hour long,
Starting point is 01:58:18 but would you consider either making them longer or breaking up to multiple parts when you do Lord of the Rings? Return of the King is four, four point five hours alone. That's, first of all, that's the extended version. And I don't know if we're going to do the extent. Well, I know we're not going to do extended versions because I'm not going to get Sam in here to do four-hour movies i can get it i can i can lock it down for three hour movies but four is going to be tough um so splitting them into two yeah splitting them into two i don't know yet
Starting point is 01:58:45 i don't know um so let's see next one here kenya king 54 22 movie title f1 days of thunder it writes itself yep that would be great f2 uh let's see f2 days of thunder yeah what's it roe Dominic Touretto versus Superman in a world where this can exist who would win. Superman would crush him in two seconds. Of course, they would team up to fight Dark Side. Yeah. Perfect. I just,
Starting point is 01:59:13 I think the thing is, though, we've yet to see Dominic Toretto come up against something he couldn't fix except for, you know, unfortunately the passing of Paul Walker. So, shit.
Starting point is 01:59:26 It would be interesting. I'll tell you what, man, you didn't even come close to Roxy. But, But that being said, 80 is still a solid number. 80 on a normal day is on a solo dolo. That's 80 solid.
Starting point is 01:59:42 80 solid. It just is, it pales in comparison. I do feel bad for poor Roka, who came out of the gate with 164 and looked like it was going to be, that was it. And then Roxy is 222. So, ladies and gentlemen, that's what we got for here today. Wednesday, A. Marshall, the capes and cows run comes to an end. but nonetheless what a run it was five or four in a row and crap and shit says in this modern age why does bond only have to be a British actor I think that's part of the mistake there's a lot of British actors portraying Americans why not the other way around well if you could if you wanted to um but I don't know I kind of like the idea of having a Brit do it I think there there are some characters here that we've also kind of just protected that have only been American we've seen some crossover on that side of stuff but I but I but I know. No, I think you got to leave that B.
Starting point is 02:00:34 Oh, he also says, you don't answer well. Bibbs said Joker, Spock, and Doctor Who. Yeah, for all once also. 82. Not bad, not bad at all. Winston, where can the people find you? You can find me at the Swaggy Blurred, T-H-E-S-W-A-G-G-Y, B-L-E-R-D. It's in the description.
Starting point is 02:00:52 And again, please go check out my video. Who is on Sam's Avengers team? It's a lot of fun, and I've got another one, like I said, about what I think will happen in Fantastic Four First Steps. coming out in the next week to two weeks. Make sure you go check out, Winsk, check that out right now. And as Haskell says here, in about 30 minutes, is the channel member live stream.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Please go and check that out. Guys, thank you so much. I really appreciate you being here today. Thank you to Winston-A. Marshall. We will see you guys very, very soon. I got a lot of stuff hopefully coming out. Like, tomorrow I should. This is my goal.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Whether I get all this stuff out, I don't know. Tomorrow should be quantum 80. Sunday, I might actually try to do a reaction to that K-Based. pop thing the demon hunters thing apparently everybody's talking about this thing so i'm going to check it i heard it's marshal told me it's i mean he's obviously he works for netflix now but he was like no no no if you like this and that you're going to love it it's apparently fantastic i'm going to check it out i might check it out and do a reaction to it this week and i might and then monday doing the megon reaction tuesday should be back with ironhard hopefully at night um so we got a lot of things
Starting point is 02:01:53 coming up i'll let you know when i get my superman screening i don't know when that's going to be so we will figure that out thank you guys for being here again thank you for all the positive comments and everything that you guys have been doing appreciate it and we'll have a great weekend everybody see you

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