The Kristian Harloff Show - Superman News Galore?! Budgets, Lawsuits, and Cuts Oh My?!

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

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Tons of Superman news. Lots of things going on with Superman news. And in the comics, you know, white, black panther, what's going on? And then you have Ryan Gosling. Now, rumored to play him? No way. And you're talking about that and more. On the show here today, it's Capes and Cowles, Christian Arloff Show. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to the show. It is Capes and Cowles, the Christian Arloff Show. Really should change that big thing logo, but hey, some, sometime, somewhere. It'll happen. No one. Welcome back to the show, everybody. It is Capes and Cowles here today on this Friday. We're all back together. Winston A. Marshall in the house. Coy, Jean-Drow here as well.

Gentlemen, we are back in business. And the other thing, speaking of capes and cows, the comic, the entire series, the comic book is done, finished, finito. So what we're going to do now is I'm going to have to set times with all you guys. You can knock down your dialogue. and then the editing will begin. We'll do a full-on two-to-three-hour full show with everybody's voices, sound effects, all that and more. Fantastic.

It's going to be fun. Lots of stuff to discuss today and a lot of Superman stuff. So hence the title, there's just tons of Superman news, whether it's the budget rumor, whether it's the fact that it's finished. We've got the lawsuits, we've got the budget, we get everything. So let's talk about the stories, and we'll start with this. one. The Superman TV spot. It features new footage and inside of that footage, there's some fun things, but James Gunn also announced that the movie is 100% done with a new behind-the-scenes

photo. Superman director James Gunn has announced that work on the DC reboot. It's 100% complete and shared a new behind-the-scenes photo with the Daily Planet Cass. Also have some new TV spots. Mark Cassidy reports. Superman takes flight in over a month. James Gunn has announced that the movie is finally locked and ready to go. The DC Studios co-CEO shared the news on social media along with a behind-the-scenes shot of some of the Daily Planetcast, including David Cornswet and Rachel Brosnahan. Our last visual effect shot has been finished and dropped into Superman.

We are now 100% done thanks to all my collaborators. It has been a joy, and for the rest of you, I can't wait for you to see the movie on July 11th. A couple of new TV spots that aired last night, during the NBA finals have now been shared online. The second is pretty lousy quality, and the guy that recorded talks over some of it, but you can still wake out quite a bit of the new footage.

In addition to more of Lex Luthor expressing his disdain for the most powerful being on the planet Earth, there's an extended look at the Man of Steel versus Ultraman Stadium Showdown and Clark Kent and Lois Lane interacting with their Daily Planet colleagues. Check out the spots and photo below, along with pretty cool new popcorn holders, which is only available in the UK at the moment. Um, okay, that's all this.

That's the behind the scenes shot right there. And you get the new post. That's pretty, that's pretty great. That's pretty great. I like that. I love that it's cooking the popcorn so much. That's pretty great. Yeah, that's, that's hilarious.

That's a huge bucket then, though, isn't it? Yeah, it is. I mean, that's kind of like the new thing. I think Dune kind of started it all off. Superman stars, David Cornswit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So we know that it's wrapped.

There's also. rumors now about the budget guys um because originally the budget had come out at something like i don't know 300 350 million or whatever it was and gun said no no no that's not true um it's i i wish and then the report on holly reporter or somebody's reported now it's something like 400 million is that including marketing everything else too i don't i don't know something along those lines but i think that the other positive inside all this quays that the thing's tracking right now apparently remember we talked about this on one of the shows is that Snyder had heard that it was going to open at like 175 to 200 or whatever it was going to do and then those claims were

backed up recently by other box office trackers who are also saying the same thing so it's a lot to throw at you on the first one with it comes to box office if you think those reports are accurate will it hit within that 175 to 200 but the other things it's wrapped and what do you think about budget speak? First of all, I'm so excited that it's like done, done, buttoned up. I have not seen it, but I love that it's completely finished a month early. So hopefully soon people get to start to see it, like outside of the test screenings. It's usually like a very narrow window of movie completely done and seeing it in a real way. So this gives me a lot of hope that it's done a month early. It wrapped like quite a while ago. It gave the digital effects team a long time to work on it.

So I'm just happy that people had time to actually do their work. And now the team has time to put it out without that like, oh, no, slide in the last frame, send it out. So I think that's great. I think that's a good sign. As far as the budget, I don't know, I don't know that any movie has ever had this much misinformation. And I almost feel like it's like a challenge because James Gunn does respond.

So I don't believe one way or the other about a $400 million that seems insane. I don't think a studio that is being so. aware of their bottom line would spend that. I'm sure they spent a ton of money because it is their big flagship. It's launching a thing. But that much money seems egregious. But I don't know. Like maybe I'm looking forward to seeing it.

I just don't know if that number seems like what, uh, what something could cost, um, especially if that doesn't include marketing. Like that'd be like that. No, I think that it does. I think that's the big report. I think the report is that it's anywhere between 170, 200 and then the marketing's close to 200, which I never think marketing needs to be that much. But you could see Warner Brothers saying, hey, this is do or die for us, this movie.

We want to throw everything at it. And we're going to put so much more. We're going to put popcorn buckets out there. We're going to put TV spots. We're going to do bus stuff. We're going to do as much marketing as possible. And we're going to throw in everything we can in marketing. And that's where the budget comes.

The film production budget Winston, I think, really is, if I was going to guess, I believe the reports of the 175 to 200. Overall connected with the marketing, I don't. think 400 is out of reach. I don't think it's crazy only because of what they're saying with you know, what, what this how important DCU is to the future, not only to DCU,

but to Warner Brothers. It's a Warner Brothers. No, I think you go, you go in. This is, this is that moment where you're like, this is do or die right here. I, I wouldn't call myself any sort of degenerate gambler whatsoever, but I do like to go to Vegas every now and again.

Occasionally when you go there, if you're on your last little bit of money, sometimes you've got to just kind of up the ante a little bit. Now, you don't want to get crazy in this regard. Doing 400 just on film production would be insane. That would be crazy. That would be absolutely insane. But deciding, hey, man, do or die moment,

go ahead and put a little bit of a larger bet out here. And I think that that is kind of what would have happened. And again, 175-200 is incredibly reasonable. Like, if you think about the insanity that we were dealing with with stuff at 300, under 350 that made no sense and then would bomb. This is a reasonable amount of money to spend on a major summer blockbuster of one of the biggest IPs in the world that is meant to also revitalize your studio and keep you from having to sell or whatever may come out of all of that.

So no, I think that that's a very reasonable amount of money to spend. And I hope that that's ultimately what the number is. I think that would be really responsible. I misheard now that you've said with marketing for, I, I was hearing the right I think your points were your points were more than fair but if it's including that

I think this is a really good double down as you guys are both saying but also if this movie clears a billion what a profit to kick off a studio um so if it's 400 million like 180 to 200 in production cost and then like you both said they need to get the word out there this needs to be in every home if you can come back with that strong then we can talk about the things like you know christ and i always do with smaller budget films

to kind of fill in the studio gaps. If swamp things like 40 to 60 million, then they put 50 million behind that. It clears $100 million. It makes $250. That's another $150 profit. Like you start to kind of lift the shit back up. You've got this huge rise up if it clears a billion.

And then you kind of sprinkling the universe. That's a great system. Well, that's the whole point, right? And that also adds in that if it's with the market, look, the other thing is to go in what Koi did say. If it turns out that this movie was $400 million without marketing, and then they have $150 million. with marketing and you're looking at almost 600 million in general, that's a problem.

I don't think that's a problem. Yeah, I don't think that's what I don't think that at all. I think it's the, you know, it's definitely the former. And I think that within that, then going back to the previous question about the 175 that's being rumored here, that they're doing all the tracking, that this thing starts at 175. You've got to feel confident if you're Warner Brothers right now because you just had a look at Minecraft. Minecraft opened it less than 175 and it's poised to make close to a billion dollars if not a billion dollars you got um lilo and stitch which is again had a big opening didn't do 175 so 175 to 200 you've got to be in good shape now you've got to have a good week two and you've got to be able to sustain week two because

you got fantastic four which is going to take some of your budget away your your your profit away your box office so um yeah Winston so you hear this potential number do you you think 175, 200, we all said, I believe all three of us said, we didn't think it was going to hit a billion, but if you hit 175 to 200, does your opinion change of that? Not necessarily. Right. The only reason why is because the real linchpin after opening box office is what does word of mouth do and what is weekend to do?

So if you hit 175, you can hit 175 because everybody's like, it's Superman. I got to be there. If the movie then ends up being bad, which I don't think it will be, but let's say that it does, you can see a massive drop off from that point forward. And then that would be a problem. Like you, you know what I mean? Like you need, you hit 175, you need to be in that range of like, what, only a 40 or 35% drop off or something like that? No, you can survive with the 45 to 50.

on week two. If you're trying to make a billion, though? Yeah, it just depends. Well, it depends also. I guess the other question is internationally, right? That's, that's, that's, that's getting a China release. Like, I don't know if you guys saw, but it's getting a China release. And it's, I mean, it only needs to make if we're talking 400 with the, uh, marketing,

then if theaters keep a third to half, depending on the theater chain, then we're talking it needs to make 600 million in order to profit. That is not a lot of money for what we think this will do. I personally think now with these numbers, it'll hit a billion. So if it needs to make 600 million and it makes a billion, that's 400 million in profit, which is incredible. So I think it can make 175 to 2 and then only drop like 40%, and then hit that billion personally. Yeah.

I just think that we're going to, I still am not confident it's going to hit a billion yet because my, but I'm not going to be as surprised as I would have been two weeks ago, right? So now I will be interested to see in week two what that drop is because if it is a big drop and people don't like the movie, it's not only not going to make a billion dollars. If it hits 200 million though opening weekend domestically, domestically, you've got a shot to break even pretty fast. Yeah. You got a shot to break even really fast. If these are the numbers, I don't think they need to worry necessarily about breaking even. I think the question is, are you going to turn the type of profit that you were expecting from it?

I honestly believe, as long as the movie is not genuinely bad, you'll very easily get your budget back. I don't think that that will be the, unless the rumors of 600 or the budget? Budget and marketing, I think you'll be fine, unless the rumors of 600 are true, in which case, then we've got to have a different conversation. But if one point two billion in order to, yeah, which I just, I just can't imagine. And that's the case. But either way, I still think, as we've discussed many times over, if they hit, you know, $500, $600, $600 million, they're going to be happy.

Okay, let's keep going to do our thing. $700 and over. They're going to go, great. We're cooking a billion dollars. They're popping champagne. So I ask you guys out there right now, what do you make of all of it? You think that this is going to be a big movie? Is it going to be a billion-dollar movie?

Is it going to disappoint? Is it going to succeed? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know. What do you think about the fact that it's done? Done shooting? Nothing else going on. No more reshoots.

Nata. Dunskey. Put your thoughts in and let me know. You can do it in the live stream. You can do it on the replay. Or you can do it on the clips channel. 10,000 subscribers now on that channel. Because you guys keep checking it out because you want to see those clips.

And that's how you do it. We are not getting away from. Superman news. Superman, as we said in the title, it's everywhere. And James Gunn responded to this. There was a rumor that Warner Brothers demanded cuts. Superman's runtime officially revealed, Director James Gunn has responded to a question about Warner Brothers supposedly demanding at least 20 minutes worth of cuts. Mark Cassidy. Yesterday, an AMC theater listing revealed that Superman will have a runtime of two hours and nine minutes. Director James Gunn would later confirm while clarifying that, this would be inclusive of credits slash post credits.

A recent rumor claimed the movie would actually clock in around two hours, 20 minutes, which seems to have led to speculation that Warner Brothers asked for the runtime to be trimmed down. As far as we can tell, this stems from a recent report that the studio demanded cuts after negative test screen reactions. Last minute changes for any major studio tent pole or normal, but we had heard that some pretty major alterations were made up, up to 20 minutes trimmed from an earlier version of the movie that, was said to lean heavier on humor. There was also reports of editor and composer shuffles and a significant restructure of the

plot. Wherever the runtime sprang from, it has now been put to bet. Zero truth to that, Gunn said in response to a fan on threads, and they couldn't even if that's something that they wanted to do. It's a DC Studios film. In related news, Smallville star Michael Rosamomom had revealed that he will have a minor voice role on the movie. James asked me to do something fun, so I have a couple.

couple of lines that I've voiced former Lex Luthor told screen rant it's funny in a way he's the head of DC so I think he can stick me in a movie or something um Superman stars do it do you okay I'm I'm really torn on this report because I'm a I'm a fan of James Gunn I'm looking forward to seeing what he's doing I like what he's doing I like I like his approach I do get concerned like anybody else that because he's he's he's funny and he likes to do comedy and stuff sometimes it works brilliantly sometimes I think it overtakes some of the things that he's trying to do and it takes away And I was very concerned when, you know, it's okay, he's doing Superman.

Are we going to, is it going to be a joke fest? Right. And we'll have to see if that's the case once we see the movie. But I also don't believe him all the time on, on Instagram and Twitter. Because sometimes he says things and he's like, no, no, no, that's not true. And it turns out that it is true. Or no, no, no, no. That rumor, no, truth to that.

And it is. And no, no, no. Well, kind of. that's not really what I meant, but what I meant was this. And then the stuff with Flash and other things. So I, to me, is he going to address it? He was like, yeah, you know what? It's true.

There's too much humor in it. And they didn't like that. So they cut it. I don't necessarily negate the fact that what I do like what he said, and I like how he flexed on it, to be honest, when he said, it's a DC studios. And they couldn't do anything and they wanted to. Doesn't mean they didn't give notes.

it doesn't mean they didn't say, hey, maybe we cut this down. And to his credit, you might have said, okay, look, maybe I'll trim down a little bit more here. And maybe that could work. And maybe he creatively said, yeah, why is he, why would he say, yeah, you know what? There was too much humor in it. And he knows he's under the people are looking and clocking him saying, all right, is this going to be just jokes everywhere? So why would he say this? I don't know.

Coy, it's too hard to ask you this question right now. So I'm going to ask Winston because Winston, Winston, do you understand? what I'm saying with this? The idea kind of of just the gun flip-flopping on stuff and your concerns about the jokes. I mean, I think you have been personally burned by a lot of

both A, how you felt about Guardians 2 initially. I know you've said you come around on it, but between that and then just what the MCU was doing, so the fear. But I guess my follow-up question is like, did you, how did you feel about like the suicide squad? Love the

suicide squad. I have a feeling. I think honestly, the more he gets into serious content, you see he pulls back. So like Guardians 3 was way more serious in the first two movies. Definitely. And he found the tone very quickly. So I think it's the same thing. He's my favorite out of the three, by the way. Absolutely.

So I think when you're talking about the Suicide Squad and you're talking about Guardians three, both A, those are his latest installments in as far as movies is put out, but also B, you're talking about, again, more serious, more. grounded content. The suicide squad was goofy as hell. It was, but it wasn't so ham-fisted over the top, like the humor all fit. It wasn't like I'm just throwing stuff in to throw stuff in. Those are two different things. I think the tone itself, I think was goofy, but I think that it, I think you're right. I think it did call for it. The way that they played, the way he, that tone, those characters, everything, his tone worked for that. And the same way peacemaker does. It works brilliantly. Those characters worked brilliantly. I don't think super. Superman calls for it in general, but then I saw the scene with Guy Gardner and Lois, which I thought was finally someone calls this guy out about his haircut. It's the worst. It's the worst. It's common accurate. That's supposed to be. And thank God she called him out on it. So yeah. I get what you're saying. And I, the only, the only thing that I could see potentially,

like I was already expecting anything with Guy Gardner and Nathan Philly in general was going to be a little bit more with the humor of side of things. I also got that vibe. from by putting Skyler in is Jimmy Olson. He just, the part of it is his face. He just has that whole thing where like that kind of super innocent look, whatever, that always feels like there's some sort of humor to it. But as far as the other people that they've cast in it and whatnot, it doesn't, it doesn't read like that's the way it's going to go personally.

I know we were all a little worried about the robots in the extended scene that came out like a month or two ago. So I got you that. But overall, I just don't, I don't even know how you would make a lot of these characters fall into that that I'm not worried about it. You know what I'm saying? You know what I was more worried about is less about the robots for me. There was a couple of things that you and I were on the same page with the robots. But like that was for me, what it was was, he's laying there really hurt. He's wheezing, which I thought was such a powerful moment.

And here comes crypto jumping on his head and doing all this stuff. And I'm like, I know that we're setting that up. And somehow we haven't seen the context of the movie. That was the part to me. I'm like, we're just going to play the dog stuff right now? I mean, come on. The only reason why that doesn't bother me is like, we've all had dogs. You got the little fat bastard.

That's exactly how dogs are until they go, oh, you're serious. So like that's, yeah, I get it. But I just, it just took the tone. That's what I'm saying. I'm just where, and as I said many times over when I was watching it, I don't know the context of how they set crypto up yet, so I can't judge it. I just saw that scene. And out of context, I'm going, I don't know if I like that yet, but I might very

well like it. Coy, bad you time to think. I have my approach. Okay, so the three things I get out of this series of statements is one, a claim that it was two hours and 20 minutes, that it's now two hours and seven or two hours and nine. Two hours and two. Two, two or two hours and two. Two years two hours and two.

Okay, okay. So, but that's kind of my point is there were rumors of other times. So I think the 220 rumor is just as fickle as the two oh two. Like it is up to the final cut of the film and the final visual effect shot was. was just delivered. The film has been cut for some time, but it's now buttoned up. And so now would be when the runtime would go out. So I do think this movie has had a ton of press that wasn't true that was just put out there. And then it's not really, it's not by having a number change proof that it got cuts. It's just that could have been a lie from the beginning. I don't know if it was

ever 220, but I do know that people have said other times that were disproven. So I do think DC studios in its position is going to be like, we want this movie to be this way. I don't think James and Peter would have signed whatever deal if they were going to have crazy oversight in the films. James was coming from a position of, I made the suicide squad after you guys cut suicide squad into a trailer to make it look like my tone of movies. You didn't deliver that movie. Then you hired me to make this movie. You guys want me to come play. Let me do what I do. Like you hired me for a reason. Let me do what I do best. So to me, I could see there being some freedom there. So I don't think that's being bold of him to just be like, no, this is a

my movie. I'm putting out my movie. So I think tonally, the second piece of that is the Guardians three is definitely more mature and grows. And it has sophomoric elements as any, you know, blend of comedy that James Gunn does. But I agree, it gets more and more serious. And I don't think that James Gunn would take on Superman without a way in that felt sincere. We've already heard the score versus needle drops. We've already felt that energy of the tone shift in this film. I don't think he's trying to make a Guardians or even of the suicide squad out of Superman. So I think the problem is those are easy things to take jabs at. So people that are going to have a problem are going to be like, oh, the humor's too much. That's an easy thing for someone to assume is the problem. So I just think

all of these are low flying, you know, it's all low hanging fruit that people can be like, it was longer because someone said so. It's got too much humor because it's James Gunn. It just feels to me unfounded. And I think once we see the movie, then we can judge. But it's, It is a dangerous thing where he does respond to things. So it puts him in a spot to feel the need to. Yeah, we should be clear that I think, someone said, I want some humor in a Superhand movie.

I do too. I think that we should have some comedy in it. It's just the question is. Yeah, just like we, like it's one of those things that when it does, when there is a lot of humor, it's like, I get it, James.

You like comedy. I get it. But it does like, that's what I have felt with Guardians too. And I still feel that sometimes. I still, I like it better than I used to, Guardians too,

because when the emotional moments, as you were saying, Winston, when the emotional moments hit, they hit the stuff with Yandu and everything too, the stuff going on with Rocket and Yandu at that point. It's fantastic. But it is when you watch that movie, everybody has a joke. Everybody. It's like, hey, you, you're not even in the movie for more than five seconds. Camera's going to turn to you. Tell a joke. joke, joke. It's like, we get it, you're funny. Like, because Drax is just a joke machine in that thing. It's all he is. He has no purpose other to tell jokes and me, and I guess, you know, down the line, he comes

around on what's her face mantis but it's it's the guardian special which he's also funny but he's got more to do in that Christmas special and then the third one where they get drags back on track um and i just hope that that's not the case of superman some people jimmy olson can tell some jokes in a different way you know it doesn't all have to be the sarcastic james gun type of way could be a different way because everybody's always a sarcastic kind of quippy look how clever i am type jokes and you got to be careful with that sometimes because that's the stuff that can even if it's funny can whip you right out of the movie so that's what's great of oh sorry Winston no no go ahead Corey I was going to say that's what's great about this cast of both actors and cast of

characters is you've got characters like Lombard and he's played by Beck Bennett that's going to be humorous in a very different way he's not smart enough to be witty but Beck is smart enough to play him in a way that's going to balance that you've got the incredible cat grant who's going to be like a sassy gossip columnist that kind of plays off Lombard and that all daily planet dynamic not even to mention and Jimmy Olson, all those things. So I do think there's going to be places for levity as well as joy separately. I think this movie needs to be joy because it's about hope. But I also think the levity is not just going to come from place of like, oh, what happened?

No, they saw a comic. It said comic, comic, but guys, what do you think comic means funny? Yeah, Dark Night was hilarious. Dark night was. Yeah, Stargne. Oh, what hilarious would be spawned. Oh, dude, the watchman. Oh, wow.

Oh, man. Yeah, dude, the killing joke. That was my favorite joke by four. Punisher with Dolph Warner. Funnisher on Netflix, barrel of laughs. My favorite season one on Netflix, hilarious. That's why my favorite thing about this show is that, like, we obviously love our audience, but, man, you give us,

you give us runway, we're going to take off on your ass. It's like, you guys have to do the same thing to you. It's like, comic, it's supposed to be funny. Everything in common are supposed to, no, wrong. Wrong. They're just for kids, as Fandamator would say, that for everything. That's right. Hell yeah, they are.

Don't start. Anyway, what do you make of all of this? Put your thoughts in there, put your comments in there, the runtime, the tone. I guess that's the main topic of what this really should be for the clips, is that is Superman going to be too funny for audiences? Put your thoughts in there. Let me know.

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You guys are going up against John Roka at 113. That's doable. He's beating everybody this week. You guys are at 17. But the only disadvantage you guys have is that we have to be off the air today, 10 minutes. early because I got to shoot with Matt Sarah. But I'm going to start. I'm going to start the questions 10 minutes earlier as well.

So let's do this because I want to make sure that this is the right story before we start. No, that is not the right story. That is incorrect, sir. So I'm going to finish up the Superman stuff real quick. And then we'll get to Fantastic Four because Fantastic Four is also doing some big business on pre-sales. But let's talk about this first. James Gunn was asked about things about metahumans and other stuff about his. You can see the press starting to ramp up for this.

And he's starting to give him more details on story and other things. But here's his explanation on what makes someone a metahuman in the new DCU. James Gunn's Superman is set in a world that's already populated by superpowered individuals. Gunn has provided an intriguing explanation for what makes a character a metahuman in the world of DC. One aspect that, oh, this is from Daniel Clisman. This is a newer right. One aspect that James Gunn and Peter Safran have been particularly careful about when crafting their new DC universe is its lure. In 2020, for example, Gunn revealed on threads that DC Studios was creating an incredibly detailed world map for the NASA franchise.

Then, while speaking to Josh Harwitz on the Happy, Sad, Confused podcast in 2024, Gunn said his focus was world building. Now we've got another bit of lure information from the DCU. This one, however, is much more interesting. seeing as it provides more context regarding the classification of super-powered characters in the franchise. DC Studios recently released a series of character posters for Superman, and Gunn posted the images on threads and captioned the post, Our MetaHumans arrived this summer. A user responded to the post, suggesting that only character in the posters who was an actual MetaHuman was Hawk Girl, played by Isabella Merced. Gunn then provided this interesting reply. In DC Comics,

A metahuman is a human-like being with extraordinary, often paranormal abilities. These powers can arise from a variety of sources, including science, magic, alien origins, mutation, divinity, proficiency, and technology. Director also clarified in the same post, who in the Superman cast is a metahuman. Therefore, the character for is probably not a metahuman, but terrific arguably is. Crypto is meta, but I won't say he's not human because he might read this. right let me tell you something well first of all now a gun quote mentioned DC comics

specifically the fact that he used it as an explanation for the designation of his DCU characters likely means the description also applies to live action franchise his description makes a lot of sense for characters equipped with advanced tech Mr. Terrific for example may be a regular human but his mentions give him a considerable edge

over regular civilians having said that Gunn's explanation has intriguing and perhaps unexpected implications for non-superpowered characters. The director stated that proficiency was sufficient to designate a character as a metachim, assuming that proficiency refers to things like athletic ability, scientific knowledge and combat expertise, characters like Batman, Green Arrow, Catwoman, Robin, and even like Souther, would fall into that category. All right, let me tell you something. And I'm going to make sure that Coy is not on screen for this, because I want to say this.

James Gunn, as I said to you already, I'm a fan. I like what you're doing. Stop giving this information out on threads. You have a really good show in D.C. Sit down with Koi, sit down with anybody on that show, and get some clips on that channel without this stuff. Use this. Put it towards that marketing money.

You get it back from YouTube where it is. Clip it out. Sit down with Koi. Stop answering. Joey Boots 75 on threads. Talk to Coy Chandra. He's a phone call away. That's all I'm saying.

This is why Christian and I work together and our friends. Yes. That being said, Coy, furthering my point, explain what all of that German meant. If James had this quote at me, I could have given the eyeline answer of, this is a beautiful way to make it more streamlined

And for the day-to-day viewer to understand that they're going to make anything elevated a broad strokes term. So people that don't follow the lore can just enjoy metahuman being anything above standard humanity. So he's basically saying this is a world where anything that isn't just a person and is augmented in some way that makes them super herover or super villainous is a metahuman. So that term is much broader in the DCU than it is in the comics that have 60, 80 years of minutia. Yeah. And Winston, you were going to say? No, I just, I heard it. And I think Koi explaining it that way, calm me down.

Because I was about to be like, I just like, even hearing Mr. Terrific, because like he has his tools, but he doesn't augment himself. So that's, I hearing it, I was like, I don't know if I agree, but it's his world. So you can do what he wants. But I think Koi, again, Koy's the one that calm me down because he just was like,

if this is going to streamline it so that people can just understand. Yeah. If you're a civilian, then fine. But if you're fighting either with extraordinary powers or with things that are allowing you to keep up with people with extraordinary powers, then you're considered a metachian. What are the two biggest problems, actually three biggest problems I think in the MCU right now are it feeling like homework, it contradicting itself, and it basically becoming a thing where you've got too much lore in order to even be. contradicted or do the homework, like the volume of it, right? So I think James Gunn is wisely narrowing down to just like metahuman or not. So that cleans that up. It's launching a universe already in process. So that cleans up the homework aspects. You can theoretically just jump in

anywhere. And then the overabundance of lore, he's smartly building out like a physical map, a world map. So you're going to have the answers to all this lore from the jump so you don't feel like you're playing catch up or needing to know too much. So things like this are like, how do you solve the MCU problems. And I think that's the benefit of, I think the 2000s comic movies crawled so the MCU could speedwalk. And I think the DCU can sprint out of the gate because the MCU had to learn to go from crawling to running. So I think learn from the mistakes that weren't the MCU's fault. It just no one had ever done a shared universe of that scale before. But why not fix those in the first movie? And so metahuman, not metahuman, clean. Well, there you go. I still hear this.

but a lot of you others understood it anyway put your thoughts in there what do you think about the explanation do you think it's going to be explained well do you like the explanation gun gave put your thoughts in there let us know all right we're going to switch away from superman going to switch away from dc we're going to go to marvel and our last story right now at least for a little bit i think will be this one and that's fantastic for the pre-sales they're they did a lot better than I thought they were going to do, to be honest. I didn't think it was going to bomb, but I didn't know it was going to be this good. Ticketing service Fandango reports that Disney's latest Marvel Studios film,

The Fantastic Four First Steps, has exceeded all of 2025 film titles in first day advanced. Ticket sales after the title made tickets available this week. How long will it hold that record, though, isn't clear. Superman is set to launch its ticket sales next week. The 130-minute film has the longest runtime of any Fantastic Four movie, and it's the MCU's longest film since Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3. Not the long. Two hours and ten minutes?

That's the longest movie. They've been trimming down a lot. Interesting. People have been complaining, so they've been trimming movies down a lot. Thunderbolts, spoilers ahead. Okay, so this is, well, let me see. Kevin Fike spoken with Empire about the movie and hinted that to tie in. Well, I don't want to ruin the Thunderbolts.

The end credit at the end of it. I don't know if it's that much of a, Yeah, I mean, I think people would realize that Fantastic Four is becoming. Anyway, so the question is, I don't want to get too much into the end credits of Thunderbolts. We'll do that another time. But this is more about the fact that the pre-sells did very well. And like they said, it's it, I haven't heard a projection yet of what Fantastic Four is going to make the way that I heard like Superman. Did you guys hear anything about that yet?

I thought that was really interesting because the tickets went on sale and everybody was like, all the sites crashed. And then I expected like a now tracking forward. that news never came no supermans did so it was like where what is that tracking i i still don't think fantastic four will hit a billion it's got a shot but i don't think it's going to hit a billion especially with superman out there kind of um picking at the bones first anyway um i think it'll do well and i still i got to call him out again there was a guy that was in here that was saying that we had we had a bet he was going to bet me a thousand bucks and i said let's do it let's do it now we send at PayPal, how you want to do it. I'll give it back to you if you win.

Thunderbolts, he said, would make more than Fantastic Four, to which I said, sir, you're crazy. This is after Thunderbolts came out? Before. He has since vanished. Jimmy Hoffman, Gonski. No word where he's been at all. Not even as simple. I was wrong. He is nowhere to be seen in the same way that the guy who said that Jay Uso was a main eventer is also not around anymore. But this being said, Fantastic Four is looking to be a successful movie

for Marvel, but I think it's the same thing, Coy, right? It's like, how much money can it make opening weekend? Yes, week two, how do you do week two? I'm going to say seven to 800 million Fantastic Four, which is great. That's a lot of money. Like that is a huge release. I do think Superman has a billion dollar potential. I don't CFFS Quetting had that potential. I think we're going to have a two and a half billion dollar or close to three billion dollar July because of Jurassic, Superman, and Fantastic. But I think the nine-day clearance from Jurassic to Superman is perfect. I think the two weeks from Superman to Fantastic is perfect. My concern is Thunderbolts. It actually isn't even about Superman or Fantastic Four. It's Thunderbolts had an unknown set of character, so I could see week one it doing, you know,

but not amazing. I thought it would do better, but I didn't think that'd be huge. It was the drop-off week one to week two. It was the lack of bump with the name change funness. It was the lack of word of mouth getting more people in seats. It has an A-minus cinema score. It's one of the best MCU movies of the last five years. And yet it's not beloved enough to not lose some money. That to me means people aren't guaranteed to show up to Marvel in the same way they were. And Fantastic Four is a bigger name. It's a bigger event. It feels like an event movie, but I think you need the combination of event movie and the guarantee Marvel bump and a lot of other factors to equal that billy. So I'm going to go 700 to 8. And I'm actually

tracking it a little lower than I would have been a couple weeks ago. Yeah. So I saw someone in the chat say 500 to 600 tops. I think 500 is a crazy bet. If it doesn't, if it doesn't do well with audiences, 600 is a bad number for them, but it's a possible number. But I think this movie hits 750. Definitely. I think it definitely with especially with the site crashing. The other thing is it's got no competition afterwards too. Yes, it's got Superman still looming, but eventually Superman's will start to drop off and then people like, okay, maybe you'll go see Fantastic Four because I think that the difference between Fast, there's a lot of differences between Fantastic Four and Thunderbolts. And the whole reason I said that to Jimmy Hoff in the first place was that there was, there's a recognizable thing about the IP about Fantastic Four. The characters are a little bit more, they're more They're more recognizable. There's a more lighter kind of family tone for it. Phantom made a closure, close your, close your ears. Kids can really enjoy this one too.

And the other one is about mental health. It's about other things as far as it's a, it's a tougher subject. It's a tougher sell. It's darker. And it's also an IP, nobody knows. And you're 100% coy. It's also, they don't have that kind of trust

that they had with the audience. And there's also budgets. You're going, look, man. Um, that's the first movie the summer. I don't want to see another comic book movie if I'm a casual fan. I don't want I don't care. I don't need to be caught up in all this. Superman's coming out.

Yeah, I've always wanted to Superman. I was a fan of Superman as a kid. I'll see it. Oh, Fantastic Four. I love the Fantastic Four. I'll go check them out. That's more so than what the Thunderbolt, the new event. I don't know what that is.

I'm not going to see that. Also, I do. I think one thing that's going to benefit F.F. That didn't benefit Thunderbolt is, and this is probably only a hundred million dollars worth of the reason. I do feel like. the characters being from Marvel stuff that weren't as beloved affected people like oh i didn't see that one should i watch that first i don't have time and fantastic four i think they're doing a pretty good job making it clear it's its own thing i think there will be some people that are like do i have to see

the other stuff first but the people that follow movie quotes which there aren't as many as like the masses i'd say 85% of the average person doesn't know uh matt shackman talking about that you don't have to watch anything that's like for the 15% that are movie devout but i do think the trailers and the marketing has done a good job outside of that to make it clear you could just watch this i think that'll help it but i think superman is very clear that it's just superman yeah winston i think coy touched on this a little bit but i think the other big thing here is the idea that we're once again tapping into not just an ip that's that's that's pretty big, but we're also tapping into, it's been off in a whole other universe with Fox this

entire time. So you're also getting that draw of what do the Fantastic Four look like inside the MCU, which is going to also peak interest versus because again, recognizable names, recognizable characters. We've seen all of that kind of stuff versus, as you mentioned with Thunderbolts, as good as the movie was, a lot of those characters are so much lower on the totem pole relatively speaking and we're not in the age of throwing an iron man or throwing a guardian like marvel's doing so well that like we'll will immediately get it i think all of that is why i would have as much as i like thunderbolts i would have never have made that bet i would have said that i prefer to see the thunderbolts over fantastic four but there's no world where i would have said

thunderbolts would have outpaced i still the same thing listen i said the same thing and i still i still feel the same thing. I still think out of the two movies, I feel Thunderbolts is going to be the better movie quality-wise. I think so. Yeah, I think as far as story and connection to characters, I still feel Thunderbolts is going to be the better one. I think Fantastic Ford is

going to destroy it in box office. Because of all the, you're muted coy, but I believe what you're saying. I think the quality is going to be as disparate as the box office. I think Thunderbolts is going to be like an A-a-minus. I think this is going to be like a B-B-plus,

They're both going to do well, but like Thunderbolt's lost money. I don't think Fantastic Four will. Well, I have to ask everybody here, Fantastic Four, what does it do? Does it do very well? Does it do mid, as the kids say? What say you? Put your thoughts in there. Let us know how you feel it's going to do.

We're going to stay with Marvel before we move through questions. And this is a big controversial one that's going out right now. In the comic books, Marvel unveil a new white Black Panther. It's a bold twist in Wakanda, like, I guess it's a. And strangely not, that's actually not Winston. That's coy doing an impression of Winston laughing. Marvel gives Black Panther a radical twist with a new white version of the iconic hero. Here's everything you need to know about the bold transformation.

This is by Changeable. There's new people in this site. Now, the Marvel Knights, the World to Come collection is just launched with its first issue, and it is already revolutionizing social media and conversations about those who closely follow the comic book universe. And no wonder, the bearer of the Black Panther model is an unexpected controversial figure and for many difficult to fit in the reason new black panther is white so the story written by christopher priest and drawn by joe caseta gets off to a strong start to chala the king of wittanda dies an old man but far from being a finale his death is the starting point of inherited personal and deeply political conflict for his death chala leaves behind

a complicated legacy and storm after storm died in an event called the race war the former king of wakonda made a drastic decision to have a child with monica lynn one of his former partners in the comic the goal to ensure the continuity of his lineage, but as is often the case in the MCU, nothing is as simple as it seems. Ketima, the unexpected heir. Tachala and Monica Lynn's son is named Ketam. He grows up resenting his father and eventually challenges him for the throne of Wakanda. He defeats him, though spares his life for reasons yet to be revealed and takes his

place as a new Black Panther. So far, this might seem powerful plot of redemption or family company, but the twist comes when Ketima takes off his mask and he is white. Yes, you're reading that right. the Air to Merconda and the new wearer of the Vibranium Protector's suit is not of African descent, a twist that has undoubtedly raised many questions and more than a few eyebrows. How is it possible that Tachalla and Monica Lynn's son is white? This is where the mystery deepens.

One theory suggests that he might not actually be the son of Monica Lynn, but of Nicole Adams, another former love of Tachalas, who curiously appears on the cover of issue three on the same series. Cole was presumed dead years ago, but in the comics world, that really means anything definitive. Another possibility is that there's more complex explanation behind it, something related to genetic engineering, cloning, or even alternate realities. You never know with Marvel, and that's part of the claim. New Black Panther, new conflict, beyond the genetic or narrative continuity debate, which truly shaking up the reading continuity is what the creative decision means. Can a character like Black Panther so deeply tied to African identity and the cultural legacy of Oconda be represented by a white character?

Is it an intentional provocation, metaphor, or simply a way to break with the established order? It doesn't stop there, guys, because there's also now, let me show you this one. This is. I don't want. Fans react to the Marvel Comics, controversial Black Panther reveal. Yesterday's news that Marvel Comics has introduced a white guy as the new Black Panther was met with about as much backlash as you'd expect. And fans have been sharing their thoughts on social media.

We're not sure if there's much point in even putting a spoiler tag here since the news is now all over the internet, just in case major issues okay we reported yesterday uh we know we just read all this and what's to see yeah because someone said can there was another thing about either way the big reveal comes in a lot of backlash that that's christopher priest is going back to marvel comics right black panther we saw that already i guess there's something about um where is it i can't remember ryan gosling someone said could could ryan gosling actually play back black panther now because of this and the meetings the answer is absolutely there's no world that Kevin Feigy is going to make that happen.

But also, Ryan Gosling don't want the smoke. Right. Like, and it's too new of a story. We're not, we're not, we're not,

like typically they're not adopting stories that just happened. You know what I mean? Like, you need some, you need some space in between there. But, um,

look, man, I think it's, I, I ask me a hearing question. Can I say, go ahead. Go ahead.

So if, if he is to Chala's son. Mm-hmm. He'd be mixed. But it's great. Because there's tons, there's tons of, like, you look at me, Zoe Cravitz, right? And then Zoe Cravitz.

Who am I thinking of? Shoot, there was someone who recently, oh, Alicia Keys, Alicia Keys, who's, who most time you talk with Lisa Keys, she talks herself as a black woman, right? Yeah. So if this character, I said, my father's Jachala, is he not also black? Yes, he would be. I mean, and that the funny thing is, is we don't need to get into like a whole history lesson here,

but it's a lot of it has to do with the one drop rule and all of that kind of stuff. Like the idea is that it really is a split between the two. You know what I'm saying? It's you are black and you are white. The reason why people will typically just say, well, they're black is because of history of, well, you look black. So you're there for you're black. Right, right. But that being said, there's also a number of famous stories, the one that sticks out of my mind about five years ago of this African

couple like black Wesley Snipes Black and they have a kid and the kid comes out and the kid is as white as the two of you and they do a genetic test and those are the kids parents. It's just genetics happen sometimes. So my guess is this feels very hydrocap. I think it's meant to kind of stir the pot a little bit. There's something deeper at play here. I don't have a problem with it if we have a point. If there's no point other than the troll, then I'm like, why would you do that? But if, but if we're getting to some deeper meaning, if we're getting to some secret agenda, something like that, then I actually think that that would be interesting to explore because the whole point of comics anyway is to try and explore stuff like that, but you better

have a point. That's, that is ultimately where I'm getting at with the story. Someone just brought it up, and I was going to say too, is that like Haley Steinfeld and sinners. Right. One drop rule. Exactly. She's, she's, she's an eighth, but that she presents as white. Right. And so speaking of that movie people could be asking because Kate was supposed to be on this week. Kate and I shot that three days ago that the reaction was done yesterday. I have been dealing with so many copyrights on that, on that reaction. And I'm sure you guys were too. It's music. Like it's a music based movie. Well, I didn't get hit with that. I got hit more so with just clips and stuff too. And so it probably won't come out until tomorrow, but it's a really funny reaction. Kate is not funny throughout the

whole thing. In the beginning of it, like us, Tom, because Kate's husband hated the movie, right? And I said, I go, she hated sinners? Yeah. And we couldn't. And so Kate went into it going on. All I know is that my husband hates him. And I said, that's, I go, he might be the only person. I know, but what you feel?

And at the end, I go, so at the end, I go, Kate. So is your husband a crazy person? She goes, a crazy person. Well, okay. I take it. I know another person that doesn't make any sense that they don't like it, but kind of hated the movie. my mom really and I don't know what it

was she she was just like there was a lot going on what it had to be so much blood I have the time people to talk about stuff there was a lot like I don't know it just and I was like but I got a soft course I apologize Winston I got a soft course Roy your your thoughts on all of this

do you A do you anything about as far as the comment because I agree with Winston I think if there's a point to it it could it's definitely was meant for conversation which is doing if there's a point to it overall it could work. But the bigger question is, does Marvel ever do this in live action? No way. The MCU is not casting logic. It's not happening. I just took a second to click. I was like, logic. I mean, I hope they would logic. Oh, yeah, I see what you did. But I do think it is an opportunity for exactly what Winston's said to have a kind of swoop in, start with controversy,

something to say i don't think you outline this by doing the first three of a six-issue arc i think you go hey this is how it ends this is why it's worth whatever it's going to be hydra-cap isn't a story i love but it is a story they got people reading comics um i think it's a very tricky thing because when you have something like hydra-cat it kind of just becomes a mean like people don't know the actual arc they know the buttons they know uh you know in ultimates this a doesn't stand for france they know the big iconic moments so i worry that the juice has to be worth the squeeze for all the people that are never going to read it that are now just going to go, well, we've had so much race swapping. It's about time. It goes the other way. My only concern is

the bad faith takes that are going to come from it. Yes. That needs to be such a good ending that it's worth all the actual racists having something to talk about because actual racists are going to use it in malevolent ways. So it needs to have a very benevolent ending to warrant this story. Fully agree with that. That was, and I guess you, you did see normally whenever I repeat the stuff that y'all say I don't add anything to it you've expanded you expanded a decent amount there and that's that's kind of what what I was what I was getting at is exactly that there needs that point better be very clear because you are you are intentionally waiting into some muddy water to do this so like it better be on point that's all I'm

say it better it better be a transcendent story. It really is so literally the Kirk Lazarus decision and that had a reason. And I think that's one of the funniest movies of all time. I think that movie had a lot to say about the very delicate thing it was saying, but in a very, you know, funny and action-packed way, but it had something to say. This needs to have something to say. But think about how many people use Kirk Lazarus, Tropic Thunder as the surface. And so that's what this is going to deal with. but on a much bigger scale. Well, there you go. Now, thoughts, A, what are your thoughts about the fact that Marvel did this in the common book?

B, is there any world where they do this in live action? I'm pretty sure I know most of the answers. All right. So now it is time for us to get into the questions. And before we do, gentlemen, let us know real quick where they can find you start with you, Winston. What's going on the channel? Yeah, you can find me at the Swaggy Blurt on all platforms, man.

I've got some fun reaction stuff dropping late. this afternoon. And then I will be streaming a little bit this weekend as well. I apologize to the folks that missed me on Wednesday. I got food poisoning. That was fun. So yeah, come check all that out. And then as well, we will have a bonus spill the tequila tomorrow dropping.

We're going to be, it's going to be pre-taped. But that will drop tomorrow over on Rokka's channel. So you can check that as well. If I'm me at Coydandro, past 47K, rapidly getting to 50. cover comics, movies, and TV. I just put up my Phoenician scheme and my ballerina reviews, like the last couple of days. I'm watching How to Train Your Dragon again tonight. Hopefully that embargo is up soon. I'm going to be reviewing that, as well as my weekly stream about comic books, lots of stuff over on my page. And today, a new DC Studio showcase

dropped with my buddy Eddie Getheggy, as well as our new test macker. And we've got another big episode in two weeks and our biggest, perhaps, in two more weeks. So check out DC Studio Showcase on Max's YouTube as well as on HBO Max. Also dropped a brand new Real Rejects pod. Greg wasn't there, so I took over that this morning. And then, yeah, find me on the internet. I love me. Well, there you go. All right.

So now, guys, good start so far. Because you guys got to beat 113 to beat Roka. You're at 62 before we even start. But remember, but you only got right now about 47 minutes to do it. So let's see if we can do it. Connor Moles. Corky and Wilson support against Roka. There you go.

Thank you. Connor says, I think Superman pre-sale will beat Fantastic War. the trailers have been way more popular and I hear more buzz for it. James Gunn is saying, hold my beer. I don't disagree with this. I feel like the hype is way stronger for Superman right now than it is Fantastic Four. Do either one you guys disagree? No, I think the easiest way to tell with me having the smallest of the three channels,

the Superman stuff always does gangbusters. The Fantastic Four stuff does well. Yeah. Mark Long, and to no one's surprise, has a porn thing to say with the name Mark Long. Breaking. Lisa Ann is. Gwen and the new Spider-Man. Wow. Yeah, well, the new Spider-Man just is going to break $2.7 billion now because of that. Look at Winston, Googling Lisa. I have no idea. I don't know. What? Lisa and Walter from Abbottel Elementary?

Not Lisa and Walter. Definitely not Lisa and. I don't know who Lisa and his, bro, so I don't know. You'll find out soon. More amount of months. Which DC heroin do you think Matt Daredevil will get with? in the DC Marvel crossover. Is there actually a DC Marvel crossover? Dude, it's awesome. For the first time, 20 years, the first one they announced,

they've only announced one. Each publisher is doing one of their own. So the first one is Deadpool versus Batman. And Marvel's publishing one and DC's publishing one. I'm so excited. How do they agree like who wins? I think each publisher gets a little bit more ground to stand on and they have to have like the Stallone Arnold rules.

Okay. I know who this person is. but the main thing is the only reason I actually recognize is when she did the Sarah Palin impression all those years ago. Yeah, I'm sure that's the only reason you know it. I love you know who's politically. DJ case gifted 10 memberships. Thank you, DJ.

It's a great time to give to have a membership, right? And especially every member has access to Capes and Cal's comic book and it's completely finished. You can read the whole thing and then see how it comes to life because we're going to put sound effects, music, everything behind all the voices. it's me, Winston, and Coy as superheroes battling through. Roxy's the main villain. It's pretty great. Yes, Big Balls is in it. Beatown.

What up, Dream Team. What up, Beatown. It could be bullshit. But I saw a post stating that Figi hinted at the Fantastic Four ship and the Thunderbolts. He says not being flown by the Fantastic Four themselves. What are your thoughts? Well, I mean, any time he gets, there goes that spoiler that I wanted to avoid. So as far as, you know, if he wants you to know that,

then he wants you to know that. If he's misleading, then he's misleading. He really, who really knows? But do you guys, I would say that he's probably, I didn't think it was him. I didn't think it was them in it. I never thought it was the Fantastic Four. I thought it was possibly Doom.

I think it's Doom. I think that, you know, showing the four is supposed to make you think one thing, but it's like the idea of a twist. It needs to be a twist. I think that's same. I think Doom, pimp slapped the hell out of the Fantastic Four,

stole a ship and then went to this other universe to be like, yeah, there's some evil dudes coming. I just came to save you. Yeah. Julius Wyatt. Here is my Chu gets snubs bet. I just want to make it clear really liked what and I felt both Chew and he should have gotten in.

If part two is good as part one and Chu gets in, that's great and I will gladly lose $20. I'm going to put, I would put $20 on that. Snubbed from what, the Oscars? Yeah, he should have been nominated last year. I mean, he won the critic's choice. He wasn't even nominated, which is ridiculous.

When you look at that movie, should he have won? Maybe not. But he should have been nominated. I think he 100% gets nominated because he didn't get nominated, even if the movie's not great. They're still going to nominate him for last year. I can also see them. Well, he's got two and they're kind of the same movie, so we'll just wait. Like I can, as far as the nominations go, when they look at it and know ahead of time,

this is literally a movie's broken in half. We'll just wait. But everybody else nominated. It was just the Oscars that didn't do it. But it's not, but that's how, but unfortunately, it's not. how it works and once in even in the first of all you look at the how the changing the rules that you actually have to see the movies right now like which is crazy that wasn't a rule in the first place so insane to me that's like the dumbest buster barnes the report was production and marketing is 400 million

right the funny side is haters multiplying that number by two point feet rather than just the production budget right so that's that's kind of what we were talking about the four 400 million overall ambitious but for what this movie needs to accomplish I get it. I do. Ziki, Numa Naglu, close. In preparation for

Fantastic 4, I'm reading the 60s Stanley run. That's fun, man. That's some weird stuff. It's a hell of a run. Is it? It was on one. I haven't read a lot. But it's also space adventure and crazy dialogues. You'll get like crazy

dialect from the time, but also the adventures are like, how did they print this? That's fun. Oh, speaking. in Magic Mind. Did you guys get the thing that they sent? Yes. Holy crap. You got you. I'm opening it Monday. I don't know it's in it yet. Okay, good. What was that? I'm so excited. Good. They asked me, and I'm glad that Winston just did that because I was like, oh, I forgot to ask them. Buster Barnes. Coy, any chance that you know if Batman Unburied will come back

or as high volume replaced it also. All the DC showcase interviews have been great. Oh, thank you, man. I don't know if Batman Unburied is, I don't know. That's not my department. I know high volume is a separate thing from what they were doing so it doesn't mean mine is now taking that over but i'm not sure and uh a lot more interviews to come and uh i really really love you watching high volume because it's about comics means a lot of me uh jo hendo tv i'm interested in superman i'm just not sure about james gunn being the right choice to direct it given his past style i think that would be fair to say after you see the movie right let's see the movie first because I don't want a Guardians 2, Superman.

I don't. But if there's tones closer to Guardians 3, then maybe he is the right choice for it. Maybe he understands it. The last thing the Russo brothers directed before Winter Soldier was community. Right.

Yes. Yeah. So let's see. Let's see if he gets it. Joe, I think that it's fair after you see it going, look, I think someone else would have been better. I didn't think that the humor worked for me the way that it was. I think that style, it just didn't work.

I didn't like it. And there's going to be a lot of that. There's going to be a lot of that, no matter what. But I think I've got to wait until the movie comes out. Jay, I don't understand how the tracking numbers are determined. Would you guys mind explaining? I thought they came from pre-sales, which haven't opened yet. I think it's a matter of interest. I don't want to pretend that I know. I used to, but I forgot the code to a lot, to something that I've known forever the other day. So I'm like, my memory goes on me. I forget things. But as far as the tracking goes,

Corey, do you know as much? I know it's a combination of walkout questionnaires in not major metropolitan areas. It's a combination of the, what's it called, YouTube views, blah, blah, blah. There's also certain algorithms of how much people click through on like ads and stuff.

Like there's a lot of walkout stuff and digital stuff combined. And then the pre-sales are kind of lock it in and pen. Yeah. So from what I have here is that surveys, usually tracking companies use surveys to measure audience awareness and interest in the movie. As Corey was saying, trailers and other things, social media analysis, analyzing social media activity, sentiment related to the movie can provide insights to an audience interest and advanced ticket sales. So those three pretty much what Corey just said, nailed it. Okay, let's see. Next one after that.

This is from Lord Monk. Winston, how about them, Nix? How dare you? Seems like more of a swipe against Christian than me, but nice try. I know I get why he did it, but your team is the one that lost. I was just supporting you. One last night, I'll tell you that. I do, bro, I cannot believe.

OK, see, dropped that at the end. But Jay, also the Flash and BBS also tracked at 140 opening weekend, lost of momentum quickly after opening. You're not wrong. No world does a 175 prediction mean a 175 open. I'll give you another one. one of the as the guy said before comics mean uh comedy joker two um which was tracking at an incredible number and ate a big pile of doo-do so much do-do so um yeah i mean just because it's

predicted doesn't mean that's what's going to hit i mean look at what sitters was predicted at and then blew that out of the water so same thing yeah uh noa s have you seen the rumors of dc seeing if they can finish Supergirl early to take doomsday's May spot. No, but it makes sense. I haven't seen those rumors. Have you guys? Supergirl started filming so early compared to most things. I don't think they did to rush.

It's just whether they wanted or not. Yeah, it doesn't. He didn't say rush. But so just to finish it early, I mean, you can finish it early. And as Corey said, you don't have to rush it. And you can take that on seeing if they can finish. I think it will be finished. It's just whether they want that date.

You maybe, maybe, maybe it's that they have time to, to one specific date of when they're supposed to finish, that they're like, hey, you know what? Let's finish early. Let's finish this. Let's get this early. And if we can get it out and even earlier than that, we'll take that spot.

I think they should do that, to be honest. Do it. Let the English see you do it. Braveheart, 1995. All right, let's see. I've just been holding off because you said you wanted me to do a reaction to it. You have to do that when you come, when you come into town. Noah asks, personally, I've always viewed Superman as lighthearted.

joky character. Him? He's joking? Not really. So the comedy doesn't... He's joking? He's joking? Since when? He has moments, but not the way that, like, not... The characters around him do. He's a voice scout.

No, he's not joking, but... I think the comics are lightharto. I think he has jokes more about, like, the awshuck sniffs of him. I don't see him, like, making jokes. The only time that happens, honestly, is when he's with Bruce. Because Bruce is so brooding, all of a sudden he becomes the counter to it and he's like, hey man, come on, don't you need to take a nap?

What do you go to sleep? I think Clark has jokes, but he's not a guy too joke. Right. Joshua Mosca, do you think Guy Gardner will be the dracks of this movie just there for punchlines and fun laughs? Yes, I'm excited for the movie overall. I do think that's where, look, if this is where you want to, if guns like, I got to get it out, I got to get it out.

Where do I go? Give it a guy. I think that's where you do it. You give it a, you give it. It's also like the Winston. I was going to say that. God damn it, go.

Go ahead. Yeah, let me get easy. In the comics, like you, you guy is a guy that is made fun of, but then he's got hurt underneath. I think James is really good at that. Like, you're going to find levity. But also when you've got three green lanterns confirmed

and more to come, you don't need them all to be so serious. They can't, one of them can be about the joke. And Guy Gardner often is. And then he'll get a redemption arc, maybe even in lanterns. it kind of works for this.

I was going to say I could also see, you know, with Noho Hank, Anthony Carrigan, I could see that too potentially. I don't know if Metamorpho is going to be pushed more as a villain in this, if he's going to be pushed more as an anti-hero as a hero, but depending on how much he's also used just

by the nature of the actor and how that character sometimes can be that way, that's another option potentially too. Go, pal, got waylaid by a pest control guy at the front door who wouldn't start, no matter how much I said were good with our current guys. those that tries me nuts when that happens it used to happen it doesn't happen as much to me here um but in uh but in la all the time i just have these these guys just trying i get it you got to try

to cut deals but when i tell you that i'm good with my guy beat it that's it um all right next one go pal just watched the third episode of the studio last night so i'm feeling the note that the movie is too long not that i think gun would have that issue that did you guys finish. Dude, the ending was so perfect. Absolutely. Dude, the ending was perfect. Please.

Brian Rans. It kills me. Dude, the thing for me is both Dave Franco and Zoe. The switch. The full switch on stage is fantastic. They're both really good. As someone who loves cinema con, it was beautiful.

Yep. Crystal, DW fan finally made a show. Sorry, I've been missing a show, being a caretaker for my grandfather. it's tiring work, but enjoying the replays also. Hashtag beat Roker. Crystal's in the house. Oh, man.

And that makes a lot of sense because you guys are 101. We got to get to 113. You're the closest to get to, uh, Roka so far. Wait, wait, what's the number 113 or 130? Oh, come on, Wof 14. We're so close. Him are. Guns humor is too cheesy.

Forced. Not my cup of tea. Totally, totally fair. I mean, I think that's fair to say. If he, not everybody's humor, look, I can even tell you how many times. Like, I'll be on a reaction when I'm, cracking jokes. Not everybody likes my humor. There's a lot of people that do, a lot of people that don't.

You're not going to find everybody's jokes for you. And that's totally fair. I don't get in South Park. Right. And, well, yeah, you can't, you like, right. I feel I have the same reaction, Winston, but you can't say, you're wrong, Coy. Doesn't find it funny. Oh, that's, that's, that there, there are, like, I never got the, like, the redneck

tour, the, the, you know, I know you're talking about, but I, the cable guy or whatever. Yeah, and that whole crew, I never. I never got the blue collar tour, I think is what they called themselves. I didn't never really vibes with that, but all day with the Kingsconi. Cisco Frisco came to drop by and sent some support. We'll listen on Spotify when it comes out. I love listening while I work.

Keep up the great work guys. I've been pretty consistent with Spotify. I tried as soon as the show's over. Of course, I say that today. Because Matt Sarah's coming in. We're doing two back-to-back interviews. I'm hoping I can try to get this done. Crystal D.

Excited for Superman and Fantastic Four. Love that. Noah S. Just saw this, by the way, Jeff Snyder. Mia Gauth officially cast in Star Wars Starfighter. Yes, I just saw that too. And she's probably playing the person that, I guess, they said it was like the apprentice, not apprentice, but like his,

I don't know, his assistant or whoever was, the person that he's been training or who he's, it's Ryan Gosling and her, I think. Crystal, support to beat Roka. Cannot let him win. Poor Roker. So close. Crystal also coming in hot. Because we were saying,

Where is Christopher Roxy? She answered that question. She's here for you guys to beat Roca. And right now, you guys got a good shot. Jason Ashcroft, here's hoping Moon Night Returns, coolest suit. He has a great suit. I love that. I still get over that.

You know, it was hilarious. You missed the end. You missed the end of it. What was the end? The end was when I cut my face. You shut it off. Yeah, you shut it off before it was over. It was.

Oh, stay there. The fly? Did you? Yeah. Yeah, that motherfucker flew from New York all the way to over here. Last week, he's like, I can control my curse and I didn't help. Crystal, support. Beat Roka says Connor Mullis.

Nate, hey, Coy. I'm heading to Boston this weekend. Any recommendations on places to check out? I'm going to be there for a week. Much love to the pool. I love Newbury Comics. It's a chain, but it's a really good comic store. It's also a record store, a lot of good pop culture stuff.

I would check out Top of the Hub for food. It's top of the Prudential building in Boston. you can see all of Boston, go to Southie and get Mull's Diner. It used to be its own standalone. Now it's in the hotel, but it's the best corned beef I've ever had in the world. And Bell in the Hand is the oldest pub in America. It literally is the first pub Americans drink it as we were found in this country. And there's a beer there that is made with the herbs and spices of the 1700s that is only available at that bar.

Bell in the hand is one of my favorite pubs on the planet. Asking you will receive. This is what you're getting for your birthday, Christian. Oh, please. Do you have any comic pet peeves? For me, it's comics obsession with trying to turn all the villains into heroes and anti-heroes. I hate that in general, not just comics. I hate that in movies.

I hate that. It's been Star Wars and Marvel and even in like, I know wicked, that's the way it was in the, in the Broadway play, Malifacin, Wicked, all. It's like, just let bad people be bad people. I like villains having reasons, but that doesn't make them heroes. I agree with that pet peeve. I also, my pet peeve is when. supporting characters on a long enough timeline always have to get powers sometimes i want mary jane to just be a incredibly intelligent woman she doesn't need to have jackpot powers sometimes i want

like you know his best friend to just be his best friend or if you're going to do that because temporary if you if it's like hey for this particular story if you want to have a gilly olson thing i like when jimmy olson gets powers because it's funny but it's not the character i mean i know i know they've made lois now in the comics she's actually superwoman but it was more interesting during All-Star Superman to have her have that for 24 hours and be like, this is what your life was like versus like, she's just

a super hero. Winston? Not yet. Don't you worry. So let's say, Crystal support. Doi is going to support there to Noah S. throwing support there. Jason Ashcroft.

So excited for Doom's Day and Fantastic War, really starting to come around for Downy is Doom. I wonder if Brolin will come back as Thanos. I bet you 100% he comes back as Thanos. I think he has. to I think again we need a rubric of how ridiculous is he have him murder thanos real quick and keep it pushing exactly you got to show him you got to show oh that's who this guy is because we don't believe that that that Kang is that strong so especially not now

crystal thank you crystal I'm just going to highlight the support comments guys um and thank you for that noah s Jurassic Superman fantastic Ford is going to be a great summer for movie theaters I agree um same question I asked step same question I asked Roxy. Out of the three of those, what do you think is a guaranteed $1 billion? And what does better internationally? I think Superman biases aside, I don't see a lot of people talking about Jurassic like they usually do. I know all the rest of the world have made a billion.

I think this could be a $900 million Jurassic. I just don't know if people are talking about the same thing. You think Superman beats, beats Jurassic? I think this is the only time it could because I'm going to go, I'm going to go, Superman. on Jurassic F4. I'm so confident, again, that I will, if whenever you're in New York and whenever I'm on LA, we do the pizza bed again. Jurassic, Jurassic World will beat it because now, will Superman be better? Yes, it'll be a better movie. I think they could both clear a billion. I'm not saying it's guaranteed, but I think this could be the first Jurassic to not.

Yes, but Jurassic World will beat Superman. I was going to say, Koi, while I, while I hear you, and we are talking about one of the largest IPs, we're talking about another IP that is very, very large on its own as well. And the sheer number of people that just F with dinosaurs versus are burnt out on superheroes. You're right. If there was a chance, this is it.

But I don't think it's going to happen. I think unfortunately it's Jurassic Super fantastic. Levi, just the excitement alone for Superman, Fantastic Four in the same month is hype. It's a comic fan. I feel stoked for both. Cheers, fellas.

Great, great comment. I was like going to the comic store. I'm so excited. A soul. Now that we know the budget. and market for Superman, what would each respective box office need to look like that leads to staying with two Batman's, Reeves Batman joining DCU, Reeves Batman ends. Okay, they'll love this question. So, A, staying with two Batman's, staying with two Batmans, I don't know that it may be, Corey's going to feel differently than I do.

I think, A, staying with two Batman, I don't think it happens at all. I think B, Reeves joining Batman joining DCU or Robert Pattinson, rather, joining DCU is possible, but unlikely. Reeves Batman ends, to me, is the most likely scenario because I think Superman's going to do well. Now, the other option D is that Reeves Batman takes over the Batman in general and the DCU ceased to exist. that happens if Superman bombs, which it doesn't look like it's going to. So C is the answer, unfortunately, for me. Oh, I thought,

I thought the question was asking, what do the box office numbers look like to get to each of those paths? I mean, I just, but it very well could be the question, but I don't think there's a scenario where any of the box office really matters to any of those paths, except the only,

the only box office path is, if Superman does well, Reeves Batman ends. Yeah. That's it. Okay. I think it'll depend on how, like December is when they're apparently supposed to start shooting. I think that's when we wait and see Till and then I can't really answer that. I do think the else world idea in DC is strong enough and James is a nerd enough that he

might want to Batman's personally and that could help usher it in regardless of box office, but we'll see. Please, if you ever do get James gun on, please ask him the question. Don't be scared. Oh, dude. Yes. Don't be scared. Crystal, D.W. fan, loving Sam's reactions. So good, especially at TV ones. Yes, she, she, I couldn't, I didn't think, I thought no one's going to watch Miss Marvel.

It's going to be like, you know, eight, maybe five, six thousand people watching it. Almost 20,000 people watch the first one. And I was like, okay, Jurassic Park, Sadie and I are going to do Jurassic Park. I can't, I'm excited to do it. You can't get 7,000 people to watch it. I have no idea how the freaking algorithm works. I have no idea. I think the algorithm is,

People I know obviously love to do well too Tina's doing well Tina's doing well Tina had final destination and those did well and then I wonder we just did John Wick Tina and I wonder would that do well I don't I don't understand Anyway, so more support from Crystal and Then more support for Crystal Chris Crystal really came in to make sure that this is going to happen Okay, let's see a real one should come in high And then excited for the sinners reaction me too if we get her again on the freaking channel I'm excited for it. It's a good one. It's a good reaction. Craig, Mathis. Coy, when are you in the Rejects going to watch Superman Batman, Apocalypse, and Superman Batman Public Enemy? We just started at our Superman return. We've got three so far. Those are on long lists. Comments on the most recent Superman video and try to get that going. I don't make the decisions.

Crystal, Winston, your reaction to Sam was hilarious. It was really good. She had me die. Literally, all I could think to myself was like, I've, I've, not going to be able to keep a straight face when I meet this woman. Like it's not, it's not going to have. Well, we're having that live event, which I'm excited for too, by the way. That's going to be on August 9th. If you guys didn't already know it, I hope, I hope PLD can put the tickets in the, the links for the tickets in the description.

But it's going to be on August 9th. It's going to be a lot of fun. So I hope you guys can come and check it out. Please. Okay. Next one. After that. We have, again, we got Crystal who came in hot today.

She's our Superman today. Look at this. One time my sister was with my niece at the mall in Charlottesville and some lady came up and asked that my niece was an octor. My sister is Indian-M-Bel-I-God. They did not call her an awkward room. I don't know what that is. I don't even know if that's racist. That's an eighth.

It kind of is in the sense that it's an old-school term one way or the other. the one that sticks out of my mind whenever I hear that now is the Keem-Pill sketch where Obama's shaking hands of people, nice to meet you, nice to meet you, my brother. And they're like, he's 1-8th black. Good afternoon, my octarone. Like, just very, like. Crystal, thank you, Crystal, thank you.

Haskell, 420. Hey, gang, I still have my Batman versus Predator Books from 1991. So good. By the way, Predator, Killer of Killers on Hulu is 84 minutes and phenomenal. there's another one that I had the early access to I just I couldn't get around to but I hear good things you saw it quite I didn't I had the same I got invited and then I've been so slammed like I'm too many shows yep Chris Chris coming in on again guys I just you have already won the week at 134 so so let's go Opel I was surprised Haley is

one is she really in in real life I thought she was not yeah she that was she that was That was actually part of the reason why the casting also went through is that Ryan loved her tape. Oh, I didn't know. But she was like, yeah, I'm really interested in this character because my grandfather. And so all of a sudden, that became a big thing for her to explore that. Oh, I didn't say it. I feel like with that movie's importance in Ryan Cougler, they wouldn't have cast. Like that to me, that feels like an important element of the casting decision.

Noah asks, you see the rumor that TK. on the rock trying to oust the Triple H? No, I haven't seen that, but it wouldn't surprise me. And I think it would be a very stupid move. Um, go pal. Also surprised that Trojan Belisario is one half black. I don't know. I don't know who that is. I don't know who that is.

Thank you. Go pal. Thank you for all the support here today and I really appreciate that. Sorry. Is this true? Lisa Ann interviewed Gary Busey. Lisa Ann interviewed Gary Busey. Where is that interview and send it to me immediately?

You do what now? Uh, how? Oh, that's very interesting. I have been a sexual performer. in one way or another, but not in the way that you might believe. You can see that I can put out vibes out there. One time, I put out three vibes and the next thing you know, I had 87,000 alien children. Thank you.

Thank you, Gary. What scares me isn't that Christian can do the voice? What scares me is that Christian can think like Gary Busey, even for a moment. That's the actual truth. It really isn't hard when you think about it. The trick is just look around the room and just pick things. Like, I believe blue curtains can interact with cameras right next to a big light. When that big light shines on you, you will know that battery charges will be forever the energy of your room.

Phones water bottle. Go pal. Also, so probably we did that one, right? More support, more support, more support for a crystal. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Joe Hendo TV, thought on the world's finest film rumor by Jeff Snyder. Didn't hear it, but it makes sense. Did not hear that, but everything.

It doesn't make sense in the fact that, like, can we please just get through Superman first before that happens? I think they're probably going to lead to that. Which I get, but we don't even have a Batman yet. And so what I don't want to have happen is that we go from Superman to another Batman v. Superman or a Batman Superman world. Find it like, let's just take our babies down. Don't turn the V into an and. Keep it. Right.

Exactly. Eric Slaby, what's more likely? New Batman actor getting announced at San Diego Comic Con or shown in a post-coran, or shown in a post-credit scene for Superman, I think fans would go wild in theaters. Let me say, I don't think either one's going to happen, but if one did happen,

San Diego Comic-Con. Yeah, if I had to... Yeah, you would have heard already. You would have heard the rumors that... On top of the... Yeah, it would be the Comic-Con, especially from the standpoint of... Since the next movie is Supergirl,

why would you jump step to introduce... You know what I'm saying? Like, that it just doesn't make sense to make that the post-credit. So if you had to pick one, I would take San Diego Comic Con. Mr. I crap and shits. I know my Browns are going to stink up the place this season,

but I can't wait to see Miles Garrett and the D-Line get after at A-A-A-Ron twice. I don't think the Browns are going to necessarily be bad. I think you're going to start off bad, but I think that you're realizing that you've got to steal with Chador, and he's going to end up being your starter, and I think you guys are actually going to be pretty good. Yeah. Well, I mean, you never know.

It's the same thing with box office. I don't always deal with the predictions of who's going to be good, who's going to be bad. Sure. Because you don't know what kind of heart. Noah S. The DCU will be a failure if we don't eventually get Batman knocking the F out of Guy with that one punch.

Does that happen in the comics? It does, but I love the idea of Nathan Philly and is getting decked. I don't even see Batman yet, but that's already in the cards. I love this Noah. Yeah. Eric also says,

do you guys think that the Green Lantern uniforms of Hal and John will be different than guys? And if so, how different? I'm not the biggest fan of his uniform. I want to know how this more serious true detective of lanterns is going to fit with Guy Gardner, who looks goofy in hell. The costumes are already clearly Maxwell Lord inspired.

Like Maxwell Lord is like a business fan. It's very, to me, it seems very like Vought Industries, like a tech company owning these heroes costumes. I think they're gonna get de-branded through time. And Guy Gardner will still be like shilling, whereas the other two won't. So I think that's how you balance those tones. Uh, Doeyes, hashtag Bet Roka. Mr. Crappin Schitts gets in there for you.

Crystal, if we beat Rocco, you can tell him. It was me. I wanted to know it was me. It was hilarious. Page. Send me love. Can't talk. Flubisa.

Oh, that's, I'm sorry. Oh, yeah. Feel better. Eric, what will make more? Superman are fantastic for? I think Superman. Superman. Yeah. Armada.

Animated Predder movie on Hulu tonight. I'm excited to see it. I am. I am. My kid banana. Thank you guys for keeping the guys. King Schnepp's goal of keeping the internet a fun place for nerd and love you guys I mean that's the whole that was always the point it's like and that's the thing that people don't

understand is you can be you can you can criticize you can disagree you can have conversations about it you don't have to be you know hateful you don't have to be loving everything you don't have to like that's that's what again like it drives it drives me just as crazy to see people going oh you're a hater you're a hater you hate everything you hate floating you're a hater when it's like you can have conversations about things and not be hateful, and just not love everything because they give it to you. Oh, lollipop.

It's like, so anyway, I'm glad that you felt that. Crystal, thank you, Crystal. 137, guys. Good number to end the week. Mr. I crap and sheds. I knew Sam would love Kamala Khan. I know you skipped Sheehawk. We didn't.

Did you get him the low down on Chewoke or ask for watchers again? So we didn't skip it. Last night, she came in to finish Ms. Marvel. Our next movie is Thorloving Thunder. God help me. But we didn't have enough time to do a movie. She hocks a half an hour episodes. I was like, you know, I just do she honk.

And so we watched the first two, and we're going to watch the third. So we're going to release them three, six. We're going to do, because there's only 10 episodes, I think. So we're going to do three, six, and then we're going to do the rest. And the third, we only do three videos. Crystal with support. Yeah, we're going to do Sheehold.

God help us all. Johnny Bravo, do you think Hot Girl Green Lantern and Mr. Terrific suits are temporary and they will get upgrades later in the movie because they certainly look like they're wearing motorcycle jackets. Which I want to say that the only one

that kind of does that normally is Mr. Terrific. And then Guy kind of has like a similar jacket, but it's more of like a vest, you know, instead of like the... In the 80s green leather vest. Yeah, yeah. I think they'll evolve over time. Maybe not in the movie, but over time.

Unheard, Sirens Incorporated. This is Remy. Hey, Cape's crew. I'm seeing Dogman Alamo this week. That's right. Yeah, it's came back out. Really looking forward to it. Harvey won't see it for so long.

Oh, F. Harvey. Okay, I was going to say, I thought you said, thank Harvey White's Singh. F, Harvey, why I see him for keeping it for so long. That's almost seen in the best, in the history of cinema. I got to see it again. I got to see it again the first time I thought, and then we're watching again and really enjoying what you.

Did it never seen a release back in April? Are you going to see it in theaters? Cool. Oh, dude, I didn't realize it had released back in April. I thought it was about to come out. It was a small tour. Now it's out, out. Yeah, this is the full thing.

And they had a big event last night. And like Kevin's touring with it. And they had one of them last night. My friend Frankie went and like Kevin, he's overjoyed because it's his baby. I'm so excited. I love that movie so much, man. At the comic book store now, I need a couple of recommendations. A great ultimate run and something new.

Ultimate Spider-Man is an all-timer, man. Pick up Ultimate Spider-Man if you haven't already. and then something new. The Mr. Terrific year one is exceptional. It's one issue and it's, well, it's going to be more, but it's only the first issue. And it's giving you the origin of Mr. Terrific, which a lot of people don't know.

And it ties into the movie. They're not adapting it, but it'll tie into what the movie's going to do. So check that one out. Hasrow to add this to support Roka. It doesn't work that way, but a good try. Hashtag outlawed nation. You just actually screwed Roka.

That's the problem. Mr. I crap and I watched predator killer of killers I loved it people are digging it man there you go uh Julius Wyatt Christian would you rather nix yank you Knicks yanks or giants win the title first I'm always going to say yank I'm always going to go Yankees um although I'll tell you what it's just because if I had my choice right now I probably tell you the nix because the giants and the Yankees have done it various times in the last 20 30 years nix haven't done it since the, what, the 70s or late 60s, 70s? I can't remember even.

So they haven't been in the finals in, you know, since the late 90s. So yeah, I was the spurs was the last time. But anyway, so maybe the next, maybe the next. Crystal, thank you, Crystal. My kid banana, North Carolina representing here at Winston-Salem. Week Forest, your buddy, Mark Ellis. Al-Nirdom lives here in, in Wilson, Winston-Salem. NCU sweaty.

There you go. Thank you, Mike Hibbana. I used to go races out there. I was born near there and like NASCAR races. Winston-Sal. That's, I learned the things about you all the time. Jay Mul, any possibility that reuse Batman and DCU Batman coexist by going full Grant Morrison since Damien has evolved and DCU Batman is Dick Grayson. That's kind of what I was trying to say like months ago is is I think Batman detective is not as applicable to the Damien Wayne Batman as far as like the villains you'd want to choose.

And I think Damien Wayne Batman is going to be the more absurdist, big over the top. I think you do have two batmans if there's a market, which I think there is. So yes, I think this. Crystal, thank you. Jason, love Winston's point of view on the Black Panther comic. In our real world history, white monarchs would hook up with people of color. And sometimes their kids were whites. It's basic genetics, folks.

It's this kind of question that I had before. And I think Winston's 100% right. Just the matter on how it's presented and how it's done and why it's done. Joe Hendo TV, the best scenario for me is the Batman Part 2 and 3 film back to back. And it'll end after that. In an ideal world, yes, but you kind of hope that would have happened already. Yeah. And it also feels like they've still been struggling with the scripts.

So if that case, you're just going to magically pop out of third one. Jason Ashcroft. If it's done in bad faith, then yes, I don't like that. But it's not unheard of for a by person to have a white kid or vice versa. That's what Winston was saying beforehand too. And I agree. I think that's what that's what it is. It's just a matter of how is it going to work?

You can't, and you can't kiss Ryan Gosling as him, obviously. You can if it's a troll move. If it's like Matt Damon as like playing Thor and Loki type stuff. And he gets killed within like 10 seconds. Noah S. Sucks the general audience is all multiborst out right now the DCU is starting especially with how integral the multiverse infinite

earth is to DC I just feel like I because I remember we talked about this for a while I always the idea and the fascination of multiverse has always been something I love the problem is now when you bring up multiverse to anyone like oh like marble it's like no not like Marvel like a concept that's been around everything everywhere all at once right right no but not even that it's like how Einstein and other people and brought up like the quantum physics and how multiverses could potentially work and that's the stuff that's always fast to me and it's like and I do like and I love the idea of Dr. Strange multiverse of madness the idea that dreams are multiverses.

I've always had that thought idea and I love that theory. But I just don't like that it's been so overplayed. Well part of it is because the only ones that truly like in my opinion got it like right, right was like end game. The Loki series, especially when he meets all the different loki's in like the hell space. Dr. Strange at points for sure, especially the dream stuff you're mentioning. And that's kind of it. No way home. Oh, no way home.

Sorry. That's another good one. Jason Ashraf. Apologies. Lots of real world issues going on. I get bugging people make a non-issue like a black guy having a white kid an issue. Yeah. It's just, I think they're just curious about how they're going to make it work.

Crystal. Okay, guys, have to go. It was in the car. I was in the car. How the hell you did? Would you just do that? Did you pull over? My grandfather.

just arrived at the hospital. I'm so glad. Talk to you guys soon. Thanks for the laughs. It makes this week better. Keep up the good work team. I hope your grandfather's doing okay. I'm sure with you there that he's going to he's going to be doing just fine. And I bet grandpa was like, you drive. I'll send it. Go ahead. Thanks, grandpa. This is, God, crap and sheds. Lisa Ann, talk about throwing a hot dog. Unbelievable. Amma. Glezy? I know y'all New Yorkers talk with rings of power and Wheel of Time.

being disappointing I hope a potential elder scroll series Skyrim of Bluven could compete with Game of Thrones we do need the next big kind of water cooler show don't we thought it was gonna be last of us but then that season two really just took the air out of it even if you like fallout I yeah but it hasn't been a water cooler show it's been people liked it people have enjoyed it and look a lot of people like season two last of us but season one was like oh everybody's got to watch it I like season two personally but it didn't feel like an event. No, but it also lost half its audience.

I saw it my numbers. Yeah, yeah. My Kid Banana. Do you guys think we'll get the Indigo tribe anywhere in the DC universe? Not anytime soon. I think they'll get to deep cuts, but not anytime soon. Eric Slabby. Thor 4 is bad.

Yes, it is. But thankfully on rewatch, it's not as bad as I remember. We'll see. It's still me to pour, but not as rough as the Marvels for me. I got to do both of those, so you're not making my life either year. I did like it more than the Marvel but I haven't rewatched either. Well, there he is. Derek Johnson, what's up, you Poe Bastages?

Didn't hear any of the show. Seems like a wild one today from the chat. Enjoy your weekend. It was a fun one today. You're a good one. We missed you, Derek. I like your Lobo reference. Nicely done here.

Edit the movies. Box Office Theory Site has Fantastic Four opening, 1.25 to 135. That's a solid opening, by the way. I can see that. I think that's fair. That's solid. But I think Superman is going to beat it.

Eric Slaby, what do you guys think of Batman, Cape Cresader? Can't remind if you, remember, if you guys talked about it, I can't wait for it. I can't wait for season two as I thought it was a cool take. I haven't seen it, but I also want to give edit the movies a note to his Willem Defoe emoji was excellent. But I want to see Batman. I haven't seen it.

Thank God. Crystal wasn't driving. She was in a minute. There you go. Armada. One can stay franchise edition, Terminator, Predator, or Planet of the Apes. Only one can stay. I'll tell you what.

If you're only telling, it's so hard because, oh, man. If it wasn't for the recent Matt Reeves apes, I would choose Terminator. But because of the stuff that happened with apes and even the last one with what's his face did from a maze runner that planted to the apes right now. Because Terminator 1 and 2 are great. Everything else is the farts. And Predator, same thing. One, two, and pray is good. And pray is good.

Yeah. So plan on to the apes right now. Yeah, I'm going to go with you. I think praise great and one and two are great. Terminator, just one and two in the animated show. And that, yeah. Yeah. Saracana.

Balsy, loving the reactions of Sam. Very excited for Black Panther 2 and Guardians 3. And of course, Thor, 4, Kristen's all-time favorite, seeing you shake with excitement. It's my next movie. We have to watch. I'm ready. And I'm trying. So, even at the last, you'll see it.

I was like, look, and I said to Sam, and I put a happy face on. Yeah, you see my reaction. I'm not going to see anything about to watch. You're just going to watch them, and I'll tell you at the end. I'm not going to say that I think it's a pile of. farts until the end because I want to see what she thinks um because she she has similar taste to mine by the way because I was watching like we finished miss Marvel and like I didn't say anything I said I know what she's going to like she's going to love the family stuff she's going to love the

you know the but she's going to feel the same way I do it with super heroes off and she does like she like episode five was my favorite in miss Marvel and turned out that's her favorite too um same thing moon night was the same thing uh we did that way sorry Eric oddly the one guy good thing Flash did was their multiburts, multiple earth's explanation. I also thought, spaghetti stuff was great. Yeah, but I also, that's true. But I also thought the family stuff was really, there's a lot of stuff. I still stand by that. I thought flashed it very well. I thought the baby stuff was the farts. I thought that the, the big of the CGI was horrible. And I hated, hated, um, um, he, um, he said, um, it's supposed to look like that. Then, sir, you failed.

You failed. Um, and then the ending of the movie, again, with the bad CGI and all the mixed and it was sloppy. But the core of the movie, I still thought was good. I thought the heart and the Keaton of it all was great. Yeah. Ed at the movies. Corey, cover your ears. Winston, is Halliburton him?

Um, what was he saying like he's the next chosen? Yeah, I don't know because he, he, the problem was he shrunk that entire game. Now mind you, he made the buzzer beater and he keeps doing that, which is terrifying, but I don't need you to just be a finisher because, your team needs you to be there the whole game. Right. So, I don't know. Mark Jason Ali became, I think you did that last week, but I'm glad to have you back.

Amazing. Love Mark Jason Ellie. Armada. Hope Fallout 2 episode comes out weekly. Same. They really need to get away from that stupid dump. That was bad. Mr. I.

Crapensh. Odds at Sam no longer loves Thor after Love and Thunder. Nah, she'll still like it. You know. They have like, the whole scene when he takes his shirt off. She's going to lose his money. she's going to lose her mind. All right, guys, that's it.

He did it. 151. Yeah. Wow. You guys won the week at 151, defeating John Rogo, who was holding strong. I thought he was going to have

his first win in over three or four months. You guys said no. 151. But Chris Carr will be making her debut next week, so there will be some new competition. She told me that. Wednesday. You saw her last night?

I saw her last night. I saw last night at a Netflix thing. And yeah, she's good to see her. She would have started this Wednesday, but I had to, I had a full day of shooting. I couldn't. Is she solo, Dolo or what's? Yeah, just, just me and Chris.

I just said, so what, what, Roka Monday, Roxy Tuesday, her Wednesday, Mike and Steph Thursday? Mike's all over the place. Mike's like utility player. He, like, shows up here and there. But Brett might start to make a return on Wednesdays also. Nice. That's a dangerous combo.

Whoa. As a massive book reader, thank you so much, Kid Banana. The Wheel of Time is amazing. It was done dirty with the first two seasons. Season 3 was actually really good and wish it could have got picked up for four. I feel like it would have found its following. Yeah, a lot of people did love that show,

but it just couldn't catch it. Couldn't catch it. My Kid Banana, thank you. That was very generous. And with that guys, 152 with Kid Manana coming in with a super punch with the Wheel of Time. Yeah, a lot of people said that they really dug Wheel of Time. And I watched the first episode of it and just kind of said,

you know, it's good enough. And then I never watched it again. Okay, guys, let's see. Where can I find you? Corey, real quick. I mean on YouTube at Corey Jondro and Instagram sometimes. When's the name? I mean, at the Swaggy Blurt on everything, YouTube, Twitch, social media.

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I got a lot coming out on the channel, man. Like I said, I got sinners, hopefully coming out tomorrow. Got a reaction to John Wick with Tina on Monday. Captain Marvel closing out on Tuesday with Sam. Wednesday. Got How to Train Your Dragon with Tina. and then on next Friday we'll do we'll have love and thunder god help me all right so that being said thanks everybody see you later bye