The Kristian Harloff Show - Superman Sneak Peek REVEALED! Marvel, Disney & Paramount Drop BOMBS at CinemaCon 2025!

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

CinemaCon 2025 is officially in the books, and we've got a ton to break down on today's Kristian Harloff Show! We kick things off with a full breakdown of the extended sneak peek at James Gunn's "Superman"—including first impressions, character reveals, and why this might just be DC's big comeback moment. Then we dive into Disney's CinemaCon presentation, which offered new looks at "Avatar 3: Fire & Ash," "Zootopia 2," and even early footage from "Lilo & Stitch," "Freaky Friday," and the new Benedict Cumberbatch/Olivia Colman comedy "The Roses." But perhaps the biggest update? The live-action "Tangled" remake has stalled indefinitely. We discuss why Disney might be rethinking its remake strategy. Marvel also made waves at CinemaCon, with Kevin Feige teasing "Avengers: Doomsday," "The Fantastic Four: First Steps," and a wild reveal of Julia Garner as Silver Surfer. Plus, we got a few more details about "Thunderbolts" and what's going on with Sebastian Stan's Bucky Barnes. Not to be outdone, Paramount dropped updates on "Mission: Impossible 8," a "Running Man" reboot, and more big projects on the way. Whether you're hyped for DC's next big thing or wondering where Disney's headed next, we've got you covered. Timestamps and links below – and don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more movie news and breakdowns every week! Topics include: Extended Sneak Peek: James Gunn's "Superman" Marvel Teases "Avengers," Silver Surfer in Vegas Paramount Teases M:I-8, "Running Man" & More Disney Teases "Avatar 3," "Zootopia 2" & More Live-Action "Tangled" Remake Stalls Indefinitely New "Predator," "Tron: Ares" Details Revealed #Superman #CinemaCon2025 #KristianHarloff #Marvel #Disney #DCStudios #Paramount #MovieNews #Avengers #Zootopia2 #Avatar3 #SilverSurfer #Tangled #Thunderbolts #FantasticFour OUR SPONSORS:  ROBINHOOD GOLD: The new gold standard is here with Robinhood Gold. To receive your 3% boost on annual IRA contributions, sign up at https://www.robinhood.com/gold RULA Head on over to http://www.Rula.com/KRISTIAN to get started today. After you sign up they ask you where you heard about them. PLEASE support our show and tell them our show sent you.  TRADE COFFEE: Trade is exclusively offering our listeners 40% off your first order at https://www.drinktrade.com/KRISTIAN  

The Avengers, Doomsday. Man, oh, man, that script leaked about Kang Dynasty, so we'll discuss that. We got that Superman footage. We'll discuss that. How is it looking? Is it going to be good? Is it going to be bad? How does Coy feel about it?

How does Winston feel about it? Yes, they said, Coy. Is he on the thumb? No. Is that because I didn't think he was coming back? Yes. So there you go. That's the answer to that question.

We have all the things. Channing Tatum may actually not even play Gambit. That's interesting. And we will actually discuss a lot of the stuff that was going on at CinemaCon in general. So that being said, it is the Christian Harlov show. It's myself. Right now, Winston A. Marshall and Coy Chondro eventually. What's another word for chicken?

Cuck? Yeah, that's right. Let's get into it. Welcome back. Thank you, Mr. General. You didn't even play our intro because you saw I was dying too much. Didn't even play it. I got to remember she in there working, bro.

You're going to give you in trouble. That was so amazing. So that whole story was I got to the whole. That's just a little bit of a clip out. But the whole thing was just amazing because we were rocking that show. We were talking. Somebody asked the super chat about Millie Alcock. And she said she said Millie Albie or something.

I can't remember what she said, and I said, no, it's Millie Alcock. And she goes, Emily Alcott. And I go, cock. And she goes, cock? And then there you go. The best part of Winston at the end was the fact I was telling Steph is that she was wearing the same outfit, you know, what we were doing it. So the very end, Luke sent it to me, clipped it out.

And it looked like she had like Tourette's because she'd be in the middle. She'd be in the middle of talking. And then, I don't know. Talk? Yep. Exactly. She knew it. She knew it. She knew it.

She's like, Jesus. Jesus Christ. There's only one, there's one, only other bit that is going to be played more than that. Yeah. Mother fucking Batman. Yeah, that, that one is going down in history. Any more. Okay.

Coy's not here yet. So when he's here, we'll talk to him, but he's not here. So we can't talk to him. Does that make sense? I think so. So we have a lot that went down over the last couple of days in the world of comic book movies Winston and we'll even going to cover some of the stuff that maybe isn't even in the comic movies because cinema con was at some big news but the there's there's a lot there's a lot and

the first thing that I saw um that I thought was pretty interesting was this Channing Tatum news because as we all saw there was his name that that popped up on the chairs when and it was like okay well he's coming back his gambit guess what Channing Tatum he didn't addresses the Avengers Doomsday role, and he indicates that he might not even be playing Gambit. That's what he says. Do we believe him? That's what he says. Do we believe him?

I don't know. Well, here's the article. It was generally assumed that the actors returning from Marvel Studios, Avengers Doomsday would be playing their established characters, but this might not be the case. Last week, Marvel Studios officially announced that production is underway on Doomsday with a massive cast reveal. and unveiled a new actor's name on the back of a director's chair every 12 minutes. The 27 names were revealed by the end of the video, including members of the original X-Men cast, Sir Patrick Stewart, Sir Ian McKellen, Rebecca Romaine, and James Marsden. Alan Cumming, Kelsey Grammer, and Deadpole Wolverines, Channing Tatum.

though it was generally assumed that the returning cast members from 20th Century Fox X-Men era would play the same characters they had in the previous movie. The fact that the chairs only showed the actor's names and not who they appear led to some speculation they might be playing new heroes or villains. Tatum, who made his debut as Gambit and Dead Bull Wolverine, was asked about his involvement with Doomsday during an interview with Extra, and his response might just suggest that there could be something to this theory. He said, personally, all I was guaranteed was a chair.

They said that I have a chair, and I can at least watch the movie. from the chair. You know, and it was just my name. It wasn't exactly Gambit, so I work in the world of just like a binary yes or knows, and I've only been guaranteed so far a chair to watch the movie and so that's where I'm at. If Tatum is playing Remy Labo, this seems like a bit of a cagey answer to give since most people just assume he'll be reprising his dead role, the Deadpool, and Wolverine role anyway. It may seem like a strange move to bring these actors back as new characters, but we didn't expect to see Robert Doni Jr. returned to the MCU as Dr. Doom after leading the franchise for so many years as Tony Stark. All right. So I then will say this, Winston. What do you

think Koi thinks about this? Well, I think it's a bold swing to do anything except bringing back to it. But also, I think it's a very different tone of Gambit so we can see either happen nicely done. Thank you. Welcome back, Corey. Nice to have you. But I can I want to hear Winston's thoughts first because you were late. God, I came back to Vegas. I'm going to ask Luke, and he can text me. Why is it doing this now? For some reason, now when I push it.

No, no, no. There's a, there's a, there's a there's a there's. You wanted to go full screen. I know how to do it. The only thing I can say is if you want me to log in real quick, I can fix it. No, it's fine. So that's mine. That's boys, but where the hell is that yours?

Oh, there you know. Still doing that stupid thing. I don't know why it's doing. Oh, it's so weird. Very weird. I don't know why for some reason. and you're in that mode. I cannot tell you that mode alone,

this makes me want to never do stream yard ever again. I can't tell you. I hate that. Like, I absolutely hate that so much. And whoever designed that, for stream yard should never design it. This is so stupid. I hate this.

I wish I remembered. Like, if I saw it, I would just do it. Yeah. And now it looks like there's a big glare with it you're going to you're going to it's because i was trying to check the settings to see if there's something i could do on my end but all right um please give you give your thoughts yeah i mean look i don't the immediate thing was what was said kind of at the end of that article is that what just just just good i'm not even going to look i'm not going to look at the camera then i'm just going

to look straightforward um it's it's one of those situations where like again if we were already expecting robert dunny junior to kind of come in and he's not playing ironman exactly what they said at the end then that's totally fine i mean we've already said that we've already said that expect for Chris Evans not to necessarily come back as our cap, but to come back as Hydro Cap, but again, what we're thinking from another universe. So I think it's just the same thing is that we're not necessarily seeing the Channing Tatum from the universe that we saw. If that's what they're doing, we're seeing a Channing Tatum from just another universe. So it could be, and on top of the fact that, look, maybe he stays his Gambit, but he goes as a different

gambit. Like, it would be ridiculous to introduce New Sun, but we could do it. Maybe he's playing that version of Gambit, which specifically is, an apocalyptic, his powers ran absolutely effing crazy and he's overpowered and all that. Who knows what's going to ultimately do with him? But, um, but yeah, I think we already knew we were going to see a bunch of variance.

If that's what we're doing, then, you know, it is what it is. Just don't make it too confusing and make it make it make sense. Yeah, Koi, it seems like a lot of confusing. It seems like pretty confusing. If you're going to, especially to mainstream audience, you're like, oh, fan tating back. I liked what he did in Dead Pull Wolverines. Like, yeah, but now he's playing somebody else. It's like, it's weird.

I don't assume it's a mislead in the quote. I think it feels pretty consciously, like trying to not be obvious. They might do a gambit variant only in the sense that, like, you know, we did see him at the end of Deadpool, Moverene in that last scene of all the TVs. There was a little frame of him entering in the universe, which was revealed, like, you know, a few weeks after. I could see that being, like, how he interacts with the X-Men,

and that would be the Deadpool Wolverine Gambit. I can also see tonally how they want to make it, you know, a little bit more serious because it's not in a Deadpool film. But that said, the Thor trick was, you know, an end game and Infinity War, that's my favorite Thor. And they managed to blend the comedy of Ragnarok at the time into the seriousness of the Branick films.

And that Thor, to me, felt the most authentic. Like that, that blend. So as long as the writing is good, I think Channing Tatum can, like, use his dramatic chops and still have that comedy undercurrent and still feel authentic. But I do think, you know, you don't want Gambit played for a laugh in this setting in the same way. So I don't know how that's the way.

It's also another question is how big is this role? Right. Because that was the other thing I want to read, if I can find the article itself and Luke Verrill might have sent it to me. I'm not sure. No. But Kevin Feigy talked about

he gave it kind of a little, not as big spoiler, but he kind of gave a little bit what Doomsday was about. And essentially what he said, you were there, right? You were at the, so why don't we just, why don't we do that?

Why don't you from the stuff as far as Doomsday goes? We can get into the rest of Cinema Con and that in a little bit. But what did we learn about Doomsday? What do we learn about Thunderbolts? We learned about Fantastic Four. What kind of stuff did we get from this panel? Oh, you're muted, buddy. I don't know why you're muted, but you're muted.

Disney was the one panel I was physically not there for. That's how I got back in time to be here. So I can tell you from what I talked to the people in the room that had happened, but I'm the same boat with you on Disney. I was there for Warner Brothers, Sony, and all that stuff. But Doomsday-wise, Kevin Feigey basically confirmed that it is the Thunderbolts, the Avengers, the original X-Men, and, you know, cosmic entities all teaming up against Doom,

which is like a crazy, you know, thing to just come out the gate and say. I assume that's why they wanted the names on the chairs to be, you know, immediately revealed. But it seems like it's going to be an all against Doom, but we haven't had that power scaling yet that I talked about two years ago where Doom would need to take on someone like Kang.

There needs to be an introduction of Doom that shows a scope. Unless Doom, and this is the only thing I can think now, is Fantastic Four is its own pocket universe, or not pocket, but its own separate multiverse. The only thing that could happen is Doom single-handedly takes out the entire universe that the Fantastic Four is from setting him up for Doomsday. Like it needs to be something of that caliber to make this work. Yeah, go ahead, Winston.

With what in particular am I supposed to be piggybacking off of Coy, though? Because I guess you're talking about just dealing with Doom? Just your thoughts in general about what Fagie said about the fact that the old X-Men, he basically gave a plot detail of what this movie's about. I mean, look, I think that what I'm, What I'm trying to take away from this at this particular moment is that when you have everything from the art leaks to the King Dynasty, like script that got scrapped leaks, to the fact that we have Channing Tatum back and forth, you have Elizabeth Olson back and forth. If that is what they're actually doing, then it sounds interesting. And I agree with what Koi is saying about we need the power scaling of doom there.

But otherwise, it's kind of hard for me to take anything at face value because what I appreciate is the fact that it feels like they're kind of going back to form. of keeping us in the dark, which should have happened in the first place because I think where a lot of these movies end up getting handicapped, I think about Brave New World and the fact that we knew a little bit too much of what was going on the whole time, and it took a lot away from what what's to come. But if that's all we're getting specifically of what Faggie was saying about that, then yes, I agree as long as we can prove that Doom is a legitimate threat like that, that I think you got to make them, I agree with you guys. You have to make them a legitimate threat. Right, and I think, but I do think that that's, and I made this point the other day, and I can't remember if you guys run the show, we're not when I made it, but the point is that before the MCU, and if you knew you were doing two or three movies in a, you have to set up your villain in the first movie. You've got to make them important what the stakes are in that first movie. But because we're so accustomed to what, and the MCU is done, we're like, well, we haven't set them up at all. We don't know how he set up. We don't know how powerful is. We don't know everything about. It's like, well, that's what the first movie is about. The first movie is to show like, okay,

he'll show up in the post credit scene and fantastic four or whatever he's going to do he's got to be absolutely devastating he has to be because especially if he's not like because if all those people that he mentioned are fighting Doom were fighting Thanos they would have won they would have won. So he's got to be

so powerful that all of these people have to team up together and it does look like from that conversation the X-Men vs. Avengers maybe is not a part of this unless they still can spawn that off. What do you think? Well, you think they're still going to play with that? I think they'll still, I think what's going to happen is we've made it clear that the X-Men are in a different universe than the Avengers multiple times.

Even as recently as the Marvels, we had the Beast at the end after she goes through that, you know, portal, that that space time continuum situation. I would assume there's going to be an element of the Fantastic Four coming into our universe, an incursion event of some kind, whether it's doom destroying the universe or not. But there's also going to be an element of the X-Men either coming into our world or the our world going into the X-Men. And there's inevitably, it's comics. There's going to be a conflict where they think they're the enemy and there's going to be a fight. and just like comics, they will end up realizing they're on the same side and teaming up. So I would imagine there's an AVX element,

but I don't think it'll last long. I think it'll be a few scenes that'll be like, you know, the kids playing in the sandbox. Like, oh, what would happen if they fought them? But it won't be an entire act of the film. At most, I think, like 20 minutes of it. And what do you think, Winston, as far as the stakes that go with this movie,

you think that they need to, sorry, this thing is really acting up today. do you think that they really need to again establish doom have him wipe somebody out kill somebody change the universe that quick like what do you think needs to happen with this new team up against doom i mean if you think about every villain that we've seen in the mc u that worked they did something that was like oh like instantly so like um on on a lower stake scale like looking at like say killmonger comes in not only is really good, like charming, really good at knowing his history, but ruthlessly

kills. When you think of Thanos at the beginning of Infinity War, where we get our formal introduction, has beat the brakes off of the entirety of the Asgardians and has Thor held hostage and all that kind of stuff, you know, combos, Hulk, you kind of need the same thing. So you need doomed to either F up an Avenger or destroy the Council of Cangs or, you know, we know we know enough about the Fox X-Men universe. We need to have seen him like Molly Wop all of them and only a few survive. We need to see him do something so egregious that it instantly kicks in, oh shit, this is a problem.

Yeah. And I think, uh, Antman, he did. Yeah. And I think that they also have to establish that because there's so many variants and everything too like he killed all the variance he kid like that that's the kind of stake because right now the audience that's really in tune with all this stuff goes okay well it doesn't really matter anymore because there's so many different versions of people that they can come back there's got to be an established no no no that's it that's the end of this person forever I think that's why

you need to start adding stakes to uh to this before secret wars because I do think secret war is going to kind of clean all the continuity up but we need stakes of this being like oh they're really gone before Secret Wars, and then Secret Wars has to somehow be even bigger. Like, they have to really establish a lot of total shifts into movies. Agreed. So we have a lot more to talk about with that panel alone. There was Thunderbolt stuff. There was other things.

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Roka and I were on together on my. Monday and then wrote oh no then me and Roxy on on Tuesday okay and then the hot mic invaded on Wednesday those two guys hosted together and then myself and staff yesterday okay I'm gonna say Roxy and I'm gonna say we're looking at first show back first show back which both the movie and you know obviously the unfortunate passing her grandfather RIP so I'm gonna say Roxy and we got to be like 185 okay boy you got a got a guess here I'm gonna go Roxy because she been away. I'm going to say 203.

Okay, you're both wrong. So is Steph at 123? Oh, that's actually manageable. You got 10 at the moment, though, so you've got to catch up. That is less manageable. However, Steph only had around 30 going into the question, so

we'll see. Okay, that being said, we have more that happened at that Marvel panel. The Thunderbolts, The cast came out, had kind of, you know, had some fun. Coy, it seemed like CinemaCon was pretty fun. They put on some better show than Comic-Con did with the presentations and stuff. Would you say that's accurate? Man, more and more CinemaCon is so special.

I love Comic-Con. Obviously, that's like my bread and butter as far as, like, growing up, that was a celebration of nerddom. But CinemaCon is more specific than Comic-Con. Comic-Con is just everything pop culture. Cinema-con is specifically the movie theater. And as someone that thinks streaming is the worst thing to happen, in the movies since ever. I love the exhibitor industry

getting to be specifically celebrated. So more and more studios are going like, hey, we need to show that the movie theater is important. More and more studios are going like, we know that we need to extend the theatrical window. We know we need to talk about price. So this particular cinema con was like, we need to figure out ways we communally can cut costs

of the movie ticket for families, how we can grow the window out without hurting people that have lost their attention spans to TikTok. And all of that was this, great communal experience that felt like a celebration of everything that's come before and why we need to pivot into fixing these problems. So every single studio had an incredible presentation that was super, both a giant corporation and mom and pop, like they'd have these little vignettes and documentaries made about like certain general managers at theaters like in Montana, like this married

couple that like married into a theater family. And then like the GM at a San Diego con that like a San Diego theater that raised that for the cons. And like to me, that's what art is. is it's giant corporations and like when you get to a certain point it becomes this huge conglomerate but also the little people that are building the foundation that allow it to exist so i think cinema con has a little bit more specificity and when you've got specificity you can kind of hone in on what you're trying to say and this year was absolutely that trying to come back from the pandemic strike combo uh this year felt like a celebration of like we're still here yeah it seemed like it seemed like there's a lot of fun I mean, I still, as I was watching it and like saying to myself, should I have gone,

but in the long run, I'm covering everything that's being, that's there. It would have been great to see it. Absolutely. And those things. And from what you said and what everybody else said, how to train your dragon live action is incredible, right? How to Train Your Dragon is I think, and this is a low bar, but I think it's the best live action adaptation of an animated film of all time. Wow.

And the ads are very consciously aware of doing like, you know, you're used to this. This is familiar. the film has a reason for existing. It's not a frame for frame. And I find in the animated adaptations often, I'm like, I just want to watch Lion King. Like, I don't find myself drawn to the different one. This one has such a difference.

And I would argue the third act might be even better than the original, which is saying a lot. That's my favorite trilogy of all time. Wow. Of all time, your favorite trilogy? It's the Howder Trauger Dragon trilogy than the before trilogy. And then maybe, I don't even know what third would be. Wow. Okay. that's interesting to say though that no yeah the stakes are that high like spider verse might take it

over if three lands we'll talk about that i'm sure with sony but uh how to train your dragon i think is the best like full journey of a of a movie trilogy it's amazing okay well good to know and i guess they said they showed some stuff we'll get into as you said we'll get into the sony stuff we'll get into obviously Superman which we'll probably talk about a great length in just a minute but as i said koi i want to give you some props if this turns out to be true because when the marvel came out, Koi was, we have this conversation, and I talked about this a few different times. I don't know if you know where I'm going with this, Koi, but like there was a, we had to talk about a lot of times if a director messes up, we'll go, you can't always, I say this, you can't

always just say it was the studio, the studio got involved. You got to, the director has to take some some responsibility for it. And Koi, to his credit, was kind of along the lines of saying, look, I think for the Marvel's, I think Nia Dacosta might have gotten bullied by the studios here. Now, if you believe Nia D'Costa, it seems like it might be right. Because the Marvel's director, Nia D'Costas, says the Captain Marvel sequel was not the movie that she pitched or shot.

The or shot part is the interesting part. Like, you know, if she pitched something and they said, no, this is what we want you to shoot. And then shot it, you're like, okay. But she's not even the one she shot. So the Marvel's director, Nia da Costa, has reflected on shooting Captain Marvel sequel and confirms that the movie that we saw in theaters wasn't the one that she pitched her shot before Marvel Studios intervened. The Marvel's released at the tail end of 2023's Hollywood Strikes, and despite scoring mostly positive reviews, it sits at 62% of Rotten Tomatoes. The Captain Marvel sequel only grows 206.1 million worldwide.

That makes it one of Marvel Studios' biggest box office flops and fans can. continue to debate what went wrong, singing planets. Oh, after all, how could a follow up to a $1 billion blockbuster and critically acclaimed show like Wanda Vision and Ms. Marvel fall so short of expectations? The fact is, it happened, and filmmaker Nita Costa has finally reflected on her MCU experience, talking at Dublin's second annual screenwriting festival, she started by saying, a Marvel movie was her dream project because she was a big comic book nerd growing up. However, it didn't take long for the reality of working in the MCU set in for the Candyman director,

explaining that she stepped into a system and had to lean into the process. The Costa added they had a date and they were prepping certain things and you just have to lean into the process hardcore. The way they make those films is very different to the way ideally I would make a film. So you just have to lean into the process and hope for the best. The best didn't happen this time. But you have to, you kind of have to trust in the machine. It was interesting because there was a certain point when I was like, Okay, this isn't going to be the movie that I pitched or even the first version of the movie that I shot.

So I realized this is now an experience and it is learning curve and it really makes you stronger as a filmmaker in terms of your abilities and navigate. Marvel Studios is renowned for using reshoots to tinker with and improve its movies. However, in recent years, those appear to have largely done the opposite with Captain America, Brave New World, the most recent example. The Marvel's ultimately lost the studio around $237 million. It seems the issue is something is going wrong with these. movies during production with not even reshoots able to course correct with any luck that's about to change especially as marvel studios president kevin fogie is no longer spread so thin balancing a busy movie slate and all those Disney plus tv shows the costa also commented on working on the upcoming

28 years later sequel uh she said i'm proud of these movies i told them i wasn't going to make a danny boyle movie because that would be impossible and also not of interest to me as a filmmaker she added that her hope is that the movie has a fresh take and individual language i didn't realize she's directing it okay so I want to clarify because 20 28 years later is getting a sequel that's what she's directing she's the sequel is the bone boy Alex Garland wrote a trilogy Danny Boyle's directing the first she's directing the second and then if they do well we get a third got it all right coy so look this I'll tell you what I liked about these comments she doesn't seem like she's coming off like spiteful she doesn't seem

like she's coming off complaining. She doesn't, you know, she could very well say, look, I wanted to shoot this movie. They had me come in. I pitched a different movie. I was shooting something. They came in. They gave their notes. That's not what I wanted to do.

She's like, look, this is the way the system works. She's playing ball with these comments. She's not, she's doing the thing where she's like, look, it's just, I'm also going to let you know. That's not how I would have done it. But they got involved and that their movie, that's what they wanted to do. I liked the comments. And I'll tell you, I asked a question up top,

do you believe me, De Costa? I do. I personally think the movie did not feel like any of her other work, except for a few scenes of cinematography that definitely felt like, oh, this is what she wanted to make stylistically. I also felt like she was very clear in, hey, I'm going to do the press I have to do.

This, you know, is me avoiding having to speak ill of the company I'm actively working for, which I respected. It also felt like throughout the production, this is when Marvel was at their most. Let's have the movie. in pre-production already pretty much shot, rush it out. We're going to be in production for a little bit.

The pre-vis is already done. Like, I've talked before about my concern with Fantastic 4 had been it went into production when Superman had wrapped and it is out the same month. That's crazy. So the amount that's done before they even start shooting. Now, what's different, the Fantastic 4 is Matt Shackman was involved from the jump. So pre-production, he would have had his hands on in that whole journey. And then he was in charge of production.

Nita Costa did not feel like she got to make the movie that it's sounded like she wanted to make from the nature of how Marvel was doing stuff then. I hope, I think they have fixed that. I really don't feel like it will be as much by committee going forward because I think they've had enough like, ooh, this isn't, the audience isn't responding. That said, the Marvel's, I, it's a struggle because I wanted to love that movie because I love Kamala Khan, I love Nita Costa. I thought Brie Larson was better, but that movie felt the most out of committee of anything I'd seen from the major studio in a long time because it literally felt like three characters only formed one identity.

It's like we need someone that's stern, put in this character. We need someone that's enjoying themselves, put in this character. It's like, you know, human beings contain multitudes. Why does this movie feel like it's one narrative going forward? It's interesting that you say that too about the Marvels because when I, we're doing a rewatch. And for people wondering where the Wanda Vision finale is, there was a copyright this morning. So when I'm done with this show, I'm going to finish the edit and we'll put it up a little later on.

But Sam and I are going to be doing the marvels eventually, right? And I'll tell you, I'm not dreading that movie the way I'm dreading Thor Love and Thunder, right? I remember I saw it Frank Janish. And I remember seeing it and for like the first 20 minutes going, okay, we're in, it's not that bad. It's fine. And then the singing plan had happened and I was out. I was out with the stupid cat stuff. I was out with a lot of stuff.

I was out. I was out. I was out. So I wonder, because that's the first question I would ask. I'm like, whose idea was the planet? Whose idea was the singing planet? Because that's the original rumor, and I don't know how true it is, the original rumor is that that scene was like 20 minutes, like that it was a long, huge musical number. Whose idea was that?

To me, that feels more like a studio that's known for inserting musical characters at all points breaking into song more than the director of Candyman. Maybe so. But again, that's the first question I was saying. Who came up with it and whose idea was it to make it 20 minutes? But Winston, you hear these comments in general. What do you make this whole situation? I'm appreciating people just being real and you don't have to be rude while being real.

Like I think that her comments are very a la Angela Bassett talking about how I thought I had done everything I needed to do to win the award and not to take anything away from Jamie. I just, after the career I put together, after the performance I put together, I thought that that's what it was. What it sounded like with Nia is the same thing. She was like, this was my dream job. It didn't quite go how I planned. But I learned from it. I played ball.

Like, she had nothing disparaging to say. She just was like, this is not the game plan that we had. And or what I was told we were going to do. And I think what that does is that brings a brutal amount of honesty so that we can genuinely put the magnifying glass on the people actually responsible for what's going on. We can allow us to give Nia another chance for the stuff that she has going forward, but we don't hold any animosity towards either one. We're just like, all right, so yeah, do better.

It is refreshing to see people tell us the truth, but not also instantly make us grab pitchforks. Yeah, totally. I think that was, it was, I like the honest comments. I really did. but what about you guys you guys like the comments do you not like the comments what say you put your thoughts in there we want to know

uh listen Warner brothers they had a big panel it was a panel that they brought up a lot of different things that are working on for sure but the news was of course Superman now they played this footage that I believe Corey the footage that they dropped yesterday that is that the footage that you guys saw

I think and this is from memory. I think we saw like maybe 15 seconds more. I remember some things that I didn't see in the thing, but it all goes by pretty quick after that opening scene. So I could have just missed it on second watch. But I think it was slightly longer, but we're talking two scenes and fragments. Well, so they did show this extended scene that's going to play before Minecraft. It is now, you know, it's up. It's up right now. And they have the sneak peek and Winter Brothers pictures. And DC studios have premiered an extended cut. extended five-minute sneak peek for James Gunn's Superman film.

The clip debuting just three months ahead of the film's release. Premiering at CinemaCon this evening, the clip comes as Warner Brothers Pictures, finally confirmed this will premiere in front of an IMAX copy of the movie this weekend with a Minecraft movie. The new trailer follows in the wake of various reports about the film's test screening, which are either gushing or mixed depending on the sources. One of the most recent one claims the divided opinions are due to the episodic nature of the narrative, which reportedly feels akin to the all-star Superman

comic the new film will follow Superman as he looks to reconcile his Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing guided by human kindness in a world that sees kindness as old-fashioned Superman stars David Correncewitz Clark Kent and a bunch of other people we already know are in it okay all right so let's see when someone start with you what were your you watch the footage I assume I've been on set the last three days so I haven't had time I've I desperately wanted to, but I want to record a reaction. That's the problem.

I want to record a reaction to it. Wait a minute. But this show? You know we're going to talk about it. I am aware of that. I literally have been on set for the last three days, my guy, I have that time. You could have texted me and said, hey, I need five minutes to watch this, the thing. Come on, my man.

All right. Look, I am aware. I am aware. Trust me, do you think I'm happy about this? I'm not happy about this, but I don't know. How about this? I'll talk to Corey about this. And they'll let me go,

watch it. And then you want you watch it and then you come back and you give us your thoughts. Wonderful. I'll be right back. All right. All right. All right. Coy, let's let's let's discuss. So what did you think about the footage that you saw? I mean, you have, you probably took

a lot of this in seeing stuff that you've read in comics from the King aspect of what he's done. So give me a full breakdown. What did you think? Had you seen this before? So I had seen scenes, but I hadn't seen this footage. Okay. So like, I knew certain elements. I'll be fair, but I didn't see. I've seen very little of Superman, but I knew the robots. Like, so to give context, like, that moment wasn't

as big of a surprise because of my context, but I hadn't seen, I've seen maybe 30 seconds more than people, but I've also read all Star Superman like 10 times. So I was able to go like, oh, because of this footage. The thing I love about this footage is it, it kind of gives a context to everything we've seen with the opening, but it just kind of extends things. Like, I really love that crypto was seen in one light, and then we got an extension of that. I really love that we've seen Superman holding the robot, and then we get the context of the kindness that Clark is going to imbue even onto something that says, like, your kindness is wasted on me.

Like, it doesn't affect, but we're still, we're going to fall in love with some robots that know that we shouldn't feel for them, and then that's going to hurt. Like, it gave all of that, and that's all right out of All-Star Superman. those robots are out of there. The sun being used to heighten things to heal him is out of there. The fact that it would be painful to fix his broken bones and organs and coming out of that, I think humanizes characters in a beautiful way. Like when Superman has nothing that connects us to him, it's a waste of a character.

If you're just like, ah, stoic guy growling and angry, I'm impassioned. Instead, like, if you're superpowered, that doesn't mean you're completely impervious to pain if your organs are messed up. So I thought it was really smart to open the thing with like, oh, look, we're connecting. to a human element of a superhuman. Oh, look, we're going to be this way. And then everyone loves dogs. So we've got a dog acting like a dog. So to me, this is already more Silver Age Superman than I've ever seen in live action. I didn't grow up on the Christopher Reeve. So this to me feels like the continuation of how I saw Smallville. Like Smallville gave me Clark Kent. I never got Superman

because it cuts right before. This to me is the actualization of a character that I've never seen on the big screen. So I'm elated, but I know, you know, growly people are going to growl. Well, well said, you brought in a lot of points and a perspective that makes a lot of sense in the footage that we saw. I will tell you this, I'm going to tell you this stuff I really liked about it. It's beautiful. Yeah. It looks so, I mean, clean, but hopeful in which we were pitched. I love that overall shot.

I'm like, wow, I mean, you can almost feel like you're there with the way that it shot. So I really enjoyed that. I think corn sweat is Superman. Oh God. It is Superman. Like still the, you put yourself in this position of going, what the hell happened to this guy?

Like that he's in, he's wheezing, he's got blood coming out. Like, who did that to him? Who was able to do that to him? It sets up a good kind of questions. It sets up questions that I like.

I love the stuff at the end with the sun, with him blasting through at him. And as you said, him healing and showing the look, he's, he's still. he still gets hurt, but there's a way that he can, this is his, this is the doctors. I like the fact that he's got people there, the robots there that are taking care of him.

And how the fortress looks. I mean, for me, that was like that, that moment of it rising out and the sound result of that impact. Yeah, and the music was incredible. The stuff, I'm not going to say that I don't like, it's because I have, I don't know, and I said this in my reaction. I don't have enough context for it yet, right? Because Snyder was on Wednesday, and I saw the segment, and he had set up the fact that crypto was kind of like, a really goofy kind of dog and jumps on him and when he's hurt and all these types of things and and and he just seems like a poorly behaved dog and he couldn't he couldn't get behind him he was

annoyed with the dog um so when i saw that at first i was like well we all have dogs that don't some of us i certainly do who behave in ways sometimes when they should be behaving in a different way and not paying attention of what the hell's going on so you can relate to that Um, that I find it like, okay, he's laying there and his leg is popping on. Like, okay, what are we going for for last right now when we should be locked into the fact that this guy is in serious trouble? And then when he gets there, I liked when he got there and they're carrying him. And I, I love the line from the first robot. And the first robot was like, listen, uh, don't thank us.

It's what we do with emotion and putting it. I was, okay, that, that shows you who they are. Did not like the line from, oh my God, he talked to me. What are we doing? What are we doing? That is the type of James Gun humor stuff I'm worried about in the movie. But again, I don't have enough context from a three and a half minute clip because the five minutes is the other two minutes was the was the trailer we saw already. So same thing with the dog.

I don't have enough context with the dog that if they set him up in the beginning that that's how he acts that when you get there, that delivers on that because they're like, oh, what's this dog going to do now? Because he's hearing. We know what he does because we've seen it. But if we were watching it for the first time and they set that. up that this dog was chaotic and everything and he's calling him, you'd be like, well, how is he going to act? It's probably going to jump on his head. And then when he goes, he jumps on his head, you're like, oh, okay, well, that's what that dog would do. But he shows up when he needs to and drags him across the thing. So I don't know yet. I don't know how they set him up.

So I can't judge on the dog. I just am worried about the quips. James Gunn loves his quips, and I'm worried about the quips. I did not need. Oh, he talked to me. What? for me uh i don't disagree with any of those concerns uh i'm definitely someone that enjoys james guns humor and i really think the scope is giving me everything i want i do wonder you know the balance of the humanity of superman obviously is the other extreme than how we've had him theatrically for a long time we haven't had superman like this and i think that's going to be alienating for a lot of people but at the same time i think we need to bring us back to a hero that we connect to so i think humor is also another method. Like there's the humanity of a man and his dog. There's the

humanity of understanding enduring pain. But humor is also something that's like a great connector. So I could also see that being a factor in doing it. Yeah. Um, there's no world. This person is talking. Did you know, let's know. Tell me if you're talking to me because then I'm going to take out of the room. There's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no way you just listen to everything I just said. And so that's that I mean, you clearly, would you have waxen yours? Come on. Um, so anyway. Um, so anyway. I am very hopeful for this movie in general. I think this movie is going to do very well.

I think people are still, I think there are a lot of people who are just as excited for. They have criticisms for it. But like I said, I don't know yet what to, I don't know yet what to think yet because it's always been a concern of mine. I also like James Guns humor.

But I like it when it's done and it's balanced. Right? I like, peacemaker it works. Suicide squad, it works. Guardians 1 and Guardians 3, it works. There's a lot of Guardians too. Like I said, I've come around in that movie a lot more today than I did when I first saw it. But I don't, I don't take back the fact that there's too much of everybody has a joke in that movie.

Like everybody. I've said it a million times over. Dave Batista is essentially just a joke machine. Funny jokes, but he's a joke machine. It doesn't really have anything to do except tell jokes. I'm hoping to the right characters like Jimmy getting his moments. I think that's going to be the balance. And I think crypto will obviously be humorous, but I think that's how you get someone that's going to be so kind and sincere like David Kornswet's take to balance out.

And I just hope you're right. I hope you're right. There is an even keel to it. Yeah, that's that's it. Having, having humor in it is fine. Having humor is fine. It's just a matter of how and can they deliver it. And will the robots, it's the same context I have with the dogs.

Maybe there's a place where they set up these robots that by the time we get there, like, okay, that he talked to me line is. actually kind of funny now that I have more context. All right. So, Winston. Yes. Seeing the footage, I assume. I did. And your thoughts?

I really liked it. I was worried for a second with crypto playing too much, though I started, I took a second and I was like, you know what? That's literally how dogs are, though, unless you have the most, like, police trained dog. And I, and crypto seems to be, like, that's probably full grown there, but like, still feels like he's a puppy. So like it's one of those situations where I'd be like, yeah, he would think if you're whistling for him, typically you want to play

until he registers, oh, you're not okay. And then he kind of takes him off. So I was like, that's actually pretty realistic to a dog. But I was concerned. I was like, uh-oh. It looks like Superman's about to die and crypto's playing games. Right. And then we get to the robots. And I appreciate that, you know, there's no need to think. I was like, a robot would

say that, okay, I'm kind of here for it. But then the new one being like, oh, what I came in on you guys talking about, oh, he winked at me. If there's something that previously said, you know, hey, you know, Superman doesn't really talk to us. We're just the help. It's whatever, whatever. So it plays off from something earlier like a callback. Great.

But yeah, that I, I, yeah. I didn't love the robots. I was both, I was both here for it and a little concerned. Like at the same time. Same. I'm exactly, I felt exactly the same. I think you and I both just, we just don't have enough context, right? It's like there just needs to be more context to it.

But there's a worry, but there's also like, it just looks so good. It just looks fantastic. It looks really good. And we didn't see any lowest. We didn't see any interaction with Lex. And that's really the core. This could be, because if you're going to, I think smart, if you're going to put out a five minute preview or whatever, really it's only a three minute preview.

But you're going to put that preview out. You don't want to give too much of the movie away. You want to give a little bit of it. And you want to say, okay, look, watch this scene. Look, you're going to, we're going to show you. Superman. Superman ain't even flying in the damn clip, you know? And so they really are, they are though really playing on this dog.

I wonder how much, I hope the dog's not in. And I saw another stupid comment in one of my reactions like, this guy clearly isn't a dog person, clearly knows nothing about me. Right. No, dude, they don't know about the little fat zone, bro, because that's because real talk. If you called him and he would do the exact same thing. Like, I don't know if he would ever listen to.

your commands to be like, take me. If I had a snack, he would. There's a steak at the, there's a stake at the fortress of solitude. Take me with you and I'll give it to you. Then he might. Then you get it together. But that's exactly why, it's exactly why the crypto thing, for a second, I was like, but I was like, no, no, no.

That's literally how a dog would be. And I got to, what I'm worried about, Winston is how much do you think he'll be in the movie? Because, yeah, I'm hoping it's not a cryptos. I really don't. I don't think it will be. I mean, I think you're going to end up with some moments where he's like clearly playing with crypto. If we're going with the fact that crypto is traditionally, you know, Cara's dog, if there's

something with that, you know, and like if crypto came to find him, I think there's a number of things that that could lead into it. But I think it's just a, this is just a nice thing. Like if we're comparing Clark to Superman, this is just a part of Superman's life. He has this super dog. and like maybe they're playing fetch sometimes in his off time and stuff like that. I also think it's an important factor of like what is a trailer? It's marketing.

And dogs are a great connecting thing. And also that's a great way to get kids to go, ooh, crypto. So I'm more, I'm more thinking that there's going to be more by percentage crypto in marketing versus percentage of runtime. That's great. Especially, Koi, knowing that it didn't necessarily do the numbers that they wanted. but Super Pets did do well. If kids automatically connect back to that from a few years ago, then you're even getting some of the character that was in crypto that was like,

hey, let's play. Hey, like, you know what I mean? So I think that that is, it's all a nice little through line. I think Fanamator literally has not just for kids, C and Control V to everything I say,

because he's like, animation, not just for kids. Dogs, not just for kids. Animator, thank you. I enjoy dogs as a grown man as well. I appreciate it. I think marketing for all ages is important.

Yes, agreed. So I do think, though, that there was a lot of excitement around this, I think, in general. I think there's going to be, this is going to be a massive movie in the same way that Fantastic Four is going to be a massive movie. Thunderbolts is going to be interesting, man. So curious. How cool is it that we feel like we have two event movies that feel like their Zykegeist, though? Like to me, Fantastic Four feels like, oh, Marvel doing something that feels Avengers big. And then Superman feels like an actual DC event to scale.

This summer feels huge after CinemaCon. It does. And I think that they, I think your point about the marketing is very, very well put. I think that it is one of these things where I know that my, I know my wife wants to see Superman in general. I know that my 13 year old, maybe not anymore, but if I show the 7 year old, the crypto scene, she might get interested in it.

I might be able to get my 7 year old and if she might really respond to that theme. That's your baby group, man. Yeah, like real talk. That's, yeah, 100%. So this is a good question. Melissa is asking, did I ever say why I think the Thunderbolts will be better?

you mean it's better than than Fantastic 4 as far as quality I think that and maybe I should clarify a little bit more I think that as far as an overall film overall movie and the things that I respond to it feels to me that Thunderbolts will be the kind of movie that I will find better I think that the actors involved I think that the scale of the movie I think that the story of the film in general seems a little bit more different Fantastic 4 seems like a big superhero movie. It seems like a movie we've seen a million times over, but except we get to see the characters now in a way that we haven't, because they haven't done a really a good, fantastic four movie. And I'm excited to see where it goes. But the dynamic and what they're

going to potentially do with the Thunderbolts to me, and even the way the marketing it is like an A24 movie and these type of things now, granted, it's not going to be that. But it's still the idea behind it. I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be more character driven. I think it's going to be more story driven and I think it's going to be a better movie you also just have the anchor I like we we were getting reintroduced to the fantastic four is like kind of a start off you you have the full anchor um of the stuff we've seen in the past so I think I don't know there's there's something always about getting what that whole like jZ or allow me to reintroduce myself like that's kind of what we're going to get from the thunderbolts of like you know we're the f ups but I guess we

to figure it out. And I think that there's something intriguing about that. What do you think, what? I think that the 824 element will be like the tone in a way, obviously not to the same scale, but I think that is a little bit more like what Marvel we loved phase one, where it felt like, oh, this is superhero blended with this. And I think, uh, you know, even when Ant Man was a heist film, it was obviously way more superhero than heist film, but that little, that little change felt good. I think throwing in the indie language and blending with Marvel is exciting. Uh, I think fourth times a charm for Fantastic 4. I do think that will also be great. And I hear the footage they showed was amazing. I'm really excited about it. But I think we've seen big space adventures more often than

like an weird indecisibility blended with. So I think they're both going to be great. But I think the good news is it's going to feel like when we went from winter soldier to guardians, when we went from like, you know, phase two where it was like everything was hitting different and it was different genres. But there was still a core. I think they're both going to be great. But I definitely have a little bit more excitement for Thunderbolts. And it's interesting to have that with, and I don't know if that's because Fantastic Four has hurt me in the past. Like Thunderbolts is also coming in cleaner.

So I'm very curious how it all lands. And I think that the year is kind of one of those years. We're going to look back on like, oh, this is when things course corrected. I think it's more about the macro than the individual movies. I think it's Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four. I think it's looking at like this is the year where things got back on track for all the superhero stuff. Yeah, and I just like the crew in Thunderbolts.

I really do. And I think that you're right, though, Corey. I think that it's just something, it's just something different to you haven't seen it before. So it's like, it, like, I'm not, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't, I'm not, I'm not, I don't think I'm excited for Tim Podasic for. I'm curious to see it. I want to see it.

And I hope that it's good. But I'm not like, like, when I saw the trailer, I was like, let's go. I was, that last trailer of Thunderbolts. I was like, let's go. I'm such an underdog guy. And that's why I like comics and Thunderbolts are underdogs. And then I think that Fantastic Four, by the nature of Cats,

casting Doom, that moment when they cast Doom, it made me go, oh, they don't care about the Fantastic Four, like, I care about them. And I think that devalued my hope because Doom is a Fantastic Four villain. Like, Doom is the Marvel threat that comes out of Fantastic Four. If you're going to invalidate Doom, how much can you care about them really? Right. That's, that is the goal they have to just see, that's the thing. When we go back to Winston with Doom's Day, we were talking about how well, you know, we haven't set Doom up. We don't know. By the time we get to Doomsday, though, you have to set up the Fantastic Four that you care about. And the way that, like, when Infinity War hit, right? Like when Black Panther walks out in an Infinity War and you go to,

you go back to Wakanda, you're like, let's go, because they set that movie up so well. Now you're like, okay, they're involved. The Wakana's involved. I'm so locked in. And yes, you'd already set him up at Civil War, but really getting more of the story with Black Panther, it's a lead in right into infinity work,

you're ready to go. So fantastic core. They're that important in Doomsday. That movie has to be great. I think I have a feeling as to why they did that. I think they specifically, why they focused on let's make Galactus the villain here and not focus on Doom.

Yeah. And again, if you're going to immediately then jump into Doomsday, I don't think that was a smart plan. But I think what they probably did is you look at the three, fantastic four films that you had. If we're being honest, Galactus really wasn't the villain of the second movie because Galactus didn't really exist.

He was some mysterious kind of gas cloud type situation and like a waiting for Godot type situation of like an ominous threat, but it was doomed both times. And then you had the crappy, you know, fan four stick and you had Doom there too. And I think they were probably like, you know what, we need to try to find a way

to differentiate our, from the other ones. Let's not focus on Doom for this first movie. We will still make him be important, kind of what the Batman did. We're going to focus on the Ridler. Hey, the Joker is kind of hanging here, though, like he's in, he's in prison. And I think that that's what they did. But now you had to pivot. And you kind of backed yourself into a corner where like, okay, well, we are going to make Doom, the main big bad for the Avengers. So they probably are going to introduce him, obviously, in Fantastic Four, but it's not going to be anything major. And then we're just going to have to do that going forward.

I'll go the other way with that. I'm glad they didn't make him the main villain. I'm glad they didn't because I think it'll be more, I think it'll be more devastating if he comes in if they, because the other thing you want to see them do in the first movie that they've been back, you want to see them succeed. They're not going to succeed against Doom in the first movie, but they'll succeed against Galactus. They'll figure a way to beat him. They'll, they'll do, and you want to see them succeed in the first one because you want to, again, establish them as viable heroes. And you want to go, okay, look what happened. Now it's Uh-oh. Now who's that?

Now they got to deal with this freaking guy in the next one. So I liked that they didn't make him the main villain. I think it was smart. It might have been a happy accident because of, you know, the stuff that because Kang was supposed to be the villain. I don't know. Either way. So, but maybe not because if you looked at that script and the leaked script,

it was, Doom wasn't supposed to come in until the X-Men movies. So who knows? It really feels like you throw the king of it all in there. You throw all of that collective. it was like hard pivot. And, you know, this was, this was supposed to be our surprise trick play. We got to use it now because we're behind by a lot. Well, speaking about being behind by a lot, 25 is what you guys have right now.

You need about 100. You literally need 100 in order to beat step. So we, right now, there's 1,200 people watching right now. So hopefully, if we don't know, what we do is we do all the topics. We'll do one more topic here. And then we get to the questions. And normally, whatever. do whatever team of hosts gets the most questions by the end of the week gets a bonus and so this

week right now step sits at 124 i believe i said um so let's get to the last story and then we'll get to the questions daredevil star vincent denofrio reveals why he can i'm gonna i haven't read this article i'm going to guarantee this was from the josh harwitz podcast podcast i'm going to guess Vincent Dinafair reveals why he can't reprise the Kingpin role in Spider-Man Brand New Day. Daredevil born again, Vincent Dinafiro addressed his supposed absence from Spider-Man Brand New Day explaining that it all comes down to complicated rights issues. So Mayor Wilson Fisk attempts to put an end to vigilantes in New York.

His main target looks to remain the man without fear as we head into the final two episodes, though Kingpin has mentioned Spider-Man and many fans remain. desperate to see these two cross past. The wall crawler teaming up with Daredevil to Battle Fisk remains the dream. Spider-Man 4 now titles Spider-Man Brave New World scenario for many fans. Unfortunately, it's hard to say just likely how that is. So Vincent Donofier recently spoke to Josh Horowitz, there you go, and explained why he doesn't currently expect to bring his character into Spider-Man or any movie for that fact.

He said the only thing I know is not positive. The very hard thing to do for Marvel to use my character. It's a very hard thing to do because of the owner's. and stuff. Right now, I'm only usable for television series, different kinds of series, whatever it is, but not a one-off fist movie or anything like that. It's all cut up and rights and stuff. I don't know when that would work out or even if it would work out or at all, actually. What rights issue could he be referring to? Well, the Kingpin debuted in the pages of the Amazing Spider-Man number 50, likely meaning he's one of a few characters who are somehow shared

between Marvel and Sony. That stinks. However, with those two studios working hand-in-hand on Spider-Man. Brand new day. It surely wouldn't be that difficult to come to an arrangement to the MCU's kingpin of crime to battle Tom Hollins, Peter Parker. I think if the powers that want to happen will happen, powers that be wanted to happen that it'll happen. I think there certainly hasn't been any kind of talk of that that it's not going to happen. I mean, to me, that's the direction that we should go, but who knows? You know, you get these calls and they're like, oh, we're doing this now. I'm like, okay, you know, it's like that. Perhaps his attitude has changed because of Spider-Man brand-new day will give fans a street-level story they're desperate for

we'll have to wait and see however without reading too much and did not feel a little like someone who's deflecting and trying to throw fans off the scent you can read this a lot of different ways guys um this is how we're going to do this for a second because i'm not going to lie to anybody in this stream or in the comments i'm about to pee myself so i'm going to let winston and koi discuss this and i'll be that's a desperate man that was that was a full panic i saw that Look, we got to give you a five minutes, you know. You came in late. That was your five minutes.

I have five minutes go watch Superman. He got to go be an old man. That's what that is. So, yeah, Koi, I mean, I think we're in a state where with, with Iger and Figi kind of writing the ship of where things are, we're back to a level of like, you're going to stop telling everybody what's going on right now. And I think it's more of a mindset of if it's important for Kingpin to. be in this story, in the Super Spider-Man story, they will work it out. Because the one thing Sony likes, clearly, is the money that Marvel essentially, the checks that Marvel ends up writing for them when these things go well.

So there's no world where I see them go, you can't have Fisk. If truly he is important for this story, they will greenlight that all day because they like what these movies have been doing. I mean, I'm curious what you think, though, man. After No Way Home, I mean, that collaboration that they finally made work, I feel like that the relationship stronger and better. it is interesting that there's because the the Netflix was the deal that started it. So I know that there are certain licensing rights where like I think Tom Holland can't do TV.

I think that Kingpin can't do movies. I think there's a lot of like crazy red tape at a high, high, high studio level. So I don't know if you can solve that without new contracts. I don't know what team is holding that up. Like to me it seems like let the Donofrio sign a theatrical deal separate of blah, blah, blah. But we then don't know if because Kingpin's a Spider-Man character, if they even have the to do said deal because licensing as character and actor separately. So there's so much red tape.

I could see this being true and just not possible. I hate that it's not possible. I'll tell you that. And I'll tell you that I think that it makes me even more pissed off at Sony. It's like Sony just cut it out. You know, what do you do? You know a Kingpin movie and who's and who's going to wind up to him and a magical elf or something? Or it's crazy as they might not be able to do a Kingpin movie because the licensing is so,

tied up in where that character lives canonically because it's a Daredevil and Spider-Man character, but he started in Spider-Man. So technically his first appearances in Spider-Man making him a Sony property. But hold on real quick, though, because if I'm not mistaken, didn't the twins start an X-Men,

but then ended up with the Avengers? But the Avengers kind of got them, and you loosely got Quicksilver off in five. That's why they couldn't call the mutants, because the Fox owned the word mutant. So they were miracle children that were the characters that were not allowed to be mutants. Which is also why you changed where their powers

spawn from is that you were experimenting on them with an infinity stone. And why they're not the children of Magneto. Right. But you see what I'm saying, though, and the fact that, like, even though they would have technically been property of X-Men, you found a way to make them be kind of in both.

So there's not necessarily a means that you couldn't do that with this too. And what's confusing is Sony would be co-producing the movie. like he's a Sony character, but he's a co-produced movie, but it's TV rights that he signed up for because of Netflix. Well, I guess that's the question, right? Winston, let me ask you two questions here.

The first one being what they kind of hinted to at the end. Is he full of it? Is he going to show up in the next Spider-Man movie? And the other side of that is to, like, is it going to be a street-level movie? Because to me, it can't be a street-level movie, because it's the next movie after Doomsday. It's the bridge.

Yeah, it's got to be the wall. Spider-Man's actually not in Doomsday. But even if he's, well, I guess that's true. You could do, but, all right, I guess it really depends on what happens in Doomsday as far as, because we're assuming that the entire, like, universe changes. And if the universe changes, and what, Spider-Ran's just going to have his movie,

unless it takes place, I guess, before Doomsday. Well, okay, you know what? it's also a possibility that this is similar to Ant Man and the Wasp, which I know wasn't the best of movies, but if you think about it, was also a bridge movie for the two Avengers films because we had to learn about the

quantum realm, essentially, and what all that was able to do, because then that was ultimately the solution to stopping Thanos. So it's very possible we get a similar type situation. It is a self-contained story about Spider-Man on a street level, but something happens there that directly

affects how things go on between Doom's Day in Secret Wars. But the comic brand new day, I mean, I don't know how directly they're going to do it, but the whole point of brand new day was to change the status quo of Spider-Man back to street level. Right. It does seem like the movie needs to do that. And to name it, brand-new day is going to get a lot of expectations from people like us that

have read it. So it's like, do they do that big of a misleaver? They're like, we're going to call it the exact thing people want and then not do that. Now, I'm not saying brand-new day is the exact thing people want, but I'm saying the status quo is but that's- But that's why I think you're getting the Ant-Man and the wasp model. Mid-movie treatment between. I don't think Spider-Man. I hope they don't make Spider-Man integral to Doomsday because of the downy of it all.

I wonder. Well, let me ask you the other thing because we haven't really touched on them. We're getting into the questions. Because, boy, the Spider-Man stuff really was started all of CinemaCon. Dude, it was awesome. That was one of my biggest pops. That in the Dynamic Duo footage, we got like seven seconds of dynamic duo during the Warner Bros. And it looks Spider-Verse transformative.

It's from this company called Swaybox, and it's a blend of puppetry, CGI and live action. And I literally, it was in a montage, right? It was Warner Brothers Animation montage. And there were three tiny moments that made the R. 7 seconds. And I actually felt myself be flabbergasted. Like I, like, it's so rare because we see so much that I was like, and I was like, that's, I've never seen that before. It was. But did you know the Spider-Man stuff? Any of it was coming? Did you know that the title was coming? Did you know that the title was coming? I didn't know the title. And then I assumed they had to give us a release date. And I knew Chris and Phil would be coming in for, they had an Amazon movie to announce. Phil didn't actually make it. So it was just

Chris. But I just, all those pieces, I was like, I assume they're going to talk about Spider-Bers. And I'm team, this is great that they're going to get to do it their way. It was five years between the first and second, Spider-Verse, five years between second and third. Give me a third five-star film. Don't rush the thing because of pressure. I honestly think they should have never given a release date. that it's a cliffhanger of an ending, but if you actually watch that movie, the arc that Gwen has completes the series and Miles sets up a new arc, that's a trilogy. I think giving the creators time to once again innovate animation to the same scale as the first two is much better than getting a movie two years sooner and it being good when it can be genre

redefining again. So let him cook. I'll wait 10 years. Well, Winston, you know, the thing is we kept talking about how there was like there's three movies that people are now lumping in together and it's Blade the Batman 2 and this movie, Beyond the Spider-Verice. You got to take Beyond the Spider-Verse out of that now, right? Because it looks like this. I mean, yes, granted, we've had release dates before, but there's even like a little teaser or something, or if I was. So, yeah, I didn't get your text for two days.

I was like, well, this is Nellen Void now. But, yeah, they didn't really show anything that new. There were a few frames in footage we'd seen. So it was like a minute montage of the story. It kind of felt like a last time on, like if you're watching show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then in that, there was a frame that we then got a still from, which was Prouler in the foreground miles in the background.

And then there was a couple frames of him upside down. And like basically the stills that came out were slightly extended to move. And that's all that was new in there. And so Winston, so do you think that this movie's going to happen? I mean, that movie is at least being made. Right. Blade and Batman are not being made currently. So that is the big difference here is that, like, yeah, they're taking a longer time.

Yeah, there's been some trouble. But, like, at the very least, something's been made. And I think the other big difference here, too, you're talking about two movies out of a trilogy that have been genre-defining. You're talking about two movies in a trilogy, one with an Oscar win, one with a nomination. Like, there is no world where they're going to be like, you know, what we messed up everything else spider man and all the other stuff has not been successful we're just going to not ever do the third they will figure that out i can't say that about warner brothers because warner brothers has been in so much trouble right there's a lot going on with dc you'd never know

and i can't say that with blade either because since he has not been paramount to things that are going on the mc u if they're pivoting anyway okay but this is like a keystone for sony and it doesn't it would not make sense to ever let them not finish this it doesn't it seems like they kind of need to right especially because of the end there. So I agree with you. But I ask you guys, man, what do you think? Do you think this is something that is actually going to happen as far as the movie? Will it happen?

I think the answer is yes also, but the question is the date that they proposed, is that actually going to happen? Put your thoughts in there. Let me know. I'm about to get into the questions in just a second. Coy, this is it, man. This is the last free spot I'm given to trade coffee here. I'll tell you, I've been getting a lot of people saying that they've been getting them and that they've been signing up.

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I love trade. I'll have them forever. I really do. I hope the show has them forever, but we'll see. All right. Guys, we're about to get into the questions. Currently, you stand at 31. I think that's just about where Steph was when we started.

So you got a shot to take Steph out. But we are going to... I'm not going to... I knew you're going to say that. I knew it. I know you so well. All right, Winston, with that really cheesy joke, where are you? Where can I find you?

You can find me at The Swaggy Blurred. I want to thank everybody that was here that came to the marathon stream in 12 straight hours. It was a great time. Really, really enjoyed hanging with everybody. This Sunday, I will be streaming again. I'm not going to be doing nearly as long, but I'll be on for a few hours. Definitely come and say what's up. And then I'm excited that now that this week of being on set is over,

I'll be able to kind of go and give a little bit of a reset and some more TLC, as well as this coming Tuesday, spill the tequila with John Roka is back. So if you guys want to come check that out, that'll be happening on Roker's channel, the Allo Nation, I think is that what he still calls the channel? But either way, it'll be there on Tuesday afternoon. So come say what's up. Mr. Jondro. You can find me at Coy Jondro on YouTube.

I just covered all of CinemaCon each individual panel. I think I missed one the whole time I was there, but I did coverage of all the panels. And then I also did coverage at Real Rejects. And I'm doing more coverage of anything that I missed. I'm going over the news again. I also cover Daredevil every single week. So, that'll be up on Tuesday.

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Okay. So we have the questions. We're going to start with them. Basically, the way it works, again, guys, is if you submit any questions, you can escape us on the air as long as you want to. And we will start getting these questions starting. First one here.

And again, you guys are at 31 currently. And we are going to get, there's a lot of really good questions. And we'll start with our friend over at B. Gill Studios. It says, hey, the new teaser for my film, the Dragonfly Dark Protector, out now, not here to promote them, just giving awareness to you guys and everyone here. Go check it out. Let's win today. That's awesome. Bigel. Thank you. And congratulations. Always a great accomplishment

somebody does something creative like that. So amazing. Did you guys real quick before I move on? Did you love the naked gun trailer as much as I did? So funny. Dude. I am all about it. It was Winstonian and watched it clearly. It was so hilarious. I actually showed my wife and my 13-year-old last night. They were, they were dying. Liam, right? Yeah, it looks, dude, you need to, it's a, it was like a minute. So that was part of, like I said, I, behind because of being on set all this

week, that's part of what I plan on doing on Sunday is to go through all of the, all of the trailers and stuff on there, so I will definitely be watching. You definitely need to watch that one. That one was, that was hilarious. Crash and Coyote, you hear who they cast in, as Jarrell in the clip yesterday.

I thought so. I thought so. and I tried to avoid it. I told Roker I was going to avoid it. I didn't. And I'll tell you where I didn't avoid it. It was on Instagram with some freaking Superman updates Instagram account that I don't even follow. I feel like I had heard rumors. Did the rule one of the rumors come true?

Yeah, don't. I just ask you if one of the rumors came true. There's a big, there was a big leak about who it was. And it's pretty, it seems like it's pretty legit. I'll send you a. You send me phone and who the name is. tell you whether or not if you really want to know uh Austin B home sick from work today oh man at least I can pass the time it's what what was that I just spilled uh you're right

oh wrong wrong song I need you all right let's get rid of him feel better heal up uh well lulins takes care now I don't know if you're talking to Austin or Winston's computer both both heal up feel better dry off um yeah so it's so funny right as he was writing that it was I'm like, yep, that's who it was. But now, let's say, Winston's back. Yes, Winston the person. Oh, he's not really lost. Sorry, this is a disaster.

All right. Let's see. Let's move you over. Perfect. I think that was Austin B. Yes, yes, yes. Austin B. Okay, next one here. Thank you for everybody who's putting the questions in there and asking those.

Big bust. I love the Superman footage. The effects in the soundtrack are great. It also reminds me the most recent run in comics by Joshua Williamson. Would you agree with that? art, especially the scope of it, that power. And I love the wide lenses to everything. It feels like it's got all this gravitas and scope.

So yeah, I agree. I think even if the tone isn't for everyone, I hope everyone can at least get the beauty and style of it. Because it is interesting how it's kind of like a specific tone, which I thought was always Superman, but a lot of people are upset with it. So I'm curious how it translates. But visually, I think everyone can love it. Christian Medard did not like what Daredevil did with Muse.

His comic run was so good. I like the Kingpin story better line than Dare. Devils. Kingman has a good story. I don't have enough reference from news to really know. I liked what they did with them. I liked how it concluded, but I think I can understand that if you really were invested in him as a character, that it's like, oh, well, the way that they played that out didn't really work well. But where do you stand on that? I'm loving Deer devil, by the way. So the last episode is the first one that I didn't love, love. I've liked the episode, but I've loved the rest of the season. And that was the first one.

I was like, oh, they kind of, the problem was, you know, when you like, you have an idea and then you immediately retroactively go, oh, that would have solved my problem and it's an easy one. It's literally if they had just given him more time in therapy to set up the tease of the tension, I would have felt it instead of like that one book scene. I was like, you didn't give us any time for there to have a relationship. You just said that they'd met. And that would have made that scene a lot more tense for me and it would have allowed a lot more world building with all the characters.

So I like it, but I'm not loving. that it's over but the comic character got a lot more to do they did kind of the greatest tips they did like key moments but there could have been more yeah um i i really dug it but i say i think also i don't have enough reference like you guys do so i don't know i like where we're going with it for sure um okay next one oh wait did i did i miss one or that was that i did that i did that okay nerds engaged if you can only see one superman or doomsday Ooh, you only see one. Superman is my most anticipated movie of this year.

Doom's next year. Not most anticipated, but Doomsday. Well, I don't know, man. I don't know yet. I don't know yet. I would have to. I don't have to try. I still have to probably go Superman because I don't have enough reference with Doomsday yet,

but Doomsday could easily take that out. What are you saying? I've been waiting for this for, you know, 30 years. Freeze, Coy. That was a good, good frozen moment from Coy.

Coy freezes, Winston comes back. Am I here? We're doing it. So what, if you can only pick one, Superman or Dumes? And Coy's back now.

See, it's funny. I'm tempted to say Dumesday because I've made it very clear that Superman isn't my favorite character, but I think because it is something so unique and it is a reset or like a new start

versus another trying to see they can get it back together. Sure. I think probably Superman. What do you say, Quay? The accountant, too. You haven't seen it, right?

No. So I know somebody who saw it and said it's just incredible. Okay. I may or may not have gotten to talk to Gavin and John at CinemaCon about it, but I haven't seen it. And it's killing me. But I'm going to go Superman. I've been waiting for this movie for 30 years.

I'm excited for Doom's Day, obviously. but Superman is everything right now. Nerds Engage support. Thank you, Nerds Engage, following out with some more support. Thank you, nerds engaged. He's following it up. He really trying to push you guys over. Getting to 40.

Not bad. Just hit the 40 mark. Oh. 50 when it gets real. Tyler Pfeiffer, short of God, Emperor, Doom, it doesn't make much sense to have him be more powerful than Thanos, right? I think he does. He's got to be more powerful.

If not, at least on par. He's going to be a bitch. Yeah. Otherwise, the power scaling doesn't work with adding in the X-Men. He's going to make Thanos look like a bitch. Yeah. Because it's plus Fantastic 4 plus X-Men. Everybody.

That's not a challenge. It's like, yeah, if everybody needs to team up to take this guy out, yeah, he's got to make Thanos look like, like, who cares? Armada, in my opinion, I think Marvel shot themselves releasing a five-minute preview of Thunderbolts before Cap. did the marketing style, dig the marketing style, but feel there's too many trailers for it right now. I didn't even know that they did a five-minute preview before. They did. It was a scene with them all kind of meeting each other for a little bit in like this room.

And then after that, they kind of jumped into essentially what Superman did. The same thing where you got like a scene, scene and a half and then trailer. It's kind of the same thing for Thunderball. It was a while ago. Yeah, I don't agree with that that they shot themselves releasing a five-minute preview because it's a movie that there's a movie that needs a push.

Nobody knows what it is. So, yeah, I don't agree with that. I think that especially there's too many trailers for it. And I think when you say that, your Armada, especially if someone who watches the show as much as you do, I'm assuming you're really locked into all of trailers and movie news and everything too.

There are a lot of just people that are people who are just not normal moviegoers that they want into the theater that have no idea what this is and you shows many trailers as you can. Armada, CinemaCon probably should have shown Tron movie and Lilo. Well, I mean, just- It was pro-to-Lel marketing and Tron got a big pop. Did it? Does it look pretty good?

Dude, I didn't know. Hines and nails doing the music. Okay, but that was for Disney, right? That was Disney, yeah. Okay, so you missed that one. Go, pal, there he is. Remember when Comic-Con was an episode of the OC, where it was all about how Seth was a loser?

I think that's the time I heard of it. Chris. I think that I know I actually I don't remember how I heard about it or whatever it was but I think first one I ever went to I went to because my ex-girlfriend used to work for Tokyo Pop and and she was going there and I went I went there to the visitor walking around that's and I saw the first trailer for or the for the no no no they revealed the title of Revenge of the Sith there and I was walking by this room. and they're like oh they just showed this crazy pilot from this TV show and was like oh what's a call it was lost and it was so that that was the first Comic-Con I ever went to then I didn't go back to comic-con until probably like seven eight years later with Ellis for the first time yeah that's funny I feel like that was when I met when I met Kristen my lady that that was one of the the kind of the jokes when she knew of what I did for a living, she's the big OC fan.

So her being like, oh, that? First time I went, I cosplayed, which I have not done since, but I dressed as the Joker. Because Warner Brothers hired me to be the Joker at theaters, and so I had a screen actor and Joker outfit. So my first ever Comic Con I did, and I've never cosplayed since, but it was really funny, like, how different my cons are now, going as the ultimate fan to, like, it's a work event.

You know, you know that, like, to this day, like, I've been to a number of cons, I still have not been to STCC. You've never been to say that you were crazy. Wow. I would never get that. I've been to I've been to LACC a bunch. I've been to acts. I've been to all sorts of anime ones.

I've been to Dodgeball one. I have never been to SDCC. We got to fix that. Also, I'm bringing Winston to a con out here in Cali around Superman. Yeah, you tell me that's great. I'm glad that's happening. Armada, Coy and Winston, do you guys watch? silo on Apple.

I do not. Apple, I'll be honest, man. Apple really doesn't miss. Like, there are plenty of shows that you never hear of.

And if that's the case, okay, you know, and the main reason in for that is just because they don't care, but they put out such quality that the ones that anybody ever hears their name for real, they do not miss.

I think it's easily the most consistent streamer. And I would argue the only consistent streamer, where I'm like, oh, if it's Apple, I'm watching it. if I hear about it, like, I'm like, oh, I'm sure it's good, like you just said. Studio is so good.

Studio is so good. It's so good. Andrew Kravulka. Hey, Koi, I love the How to Train Your Dragon Reaction. Do you think I can enjoy it if I've never seen the three animated movies? I think the beauty of it and my love to fan amator for this is that it's going to lead people to the animated films. I think that, you know, sometimes people don't watch something because it's animated, which is short-sighted. but I think the love of this movie is going to make people go like,

oh my God, there's a whole trilogy of this. It's the same director of the animated films. So I love the idea of that making people like, he clearly loves this world. He's lived in it for 10 years. So I think it's going to bring people the other way. So you can absolutely watch it, but then watch those.

That's great. That's good to know. Yeah, I mean, draw Butler is reprising the role, right? Yeah, go ahead. Dude, instead of a god, they had the premiere before the panel. So the premiere How to Train Your Dragon was in the morning.

And then Universal's panel was like at two, or whatever. So we'd already seen the movie. So like, of course, the big thing they want to talk about is the Had a Dream Dragon at the Universal Battle, but we'd already all seen the movie. So they played the music. They had a live orchestra. They played the music as they came out. And they were like, well, we really wanted to honor like Mason and the actors who played me, like Astrid was saying. And then Gerard Butler's like, and you know, I really thought no one could play Gerard Butler like Gerard Butler. And he started typing himself up. And then the director who directed all of them, interrupts Gerard to announce we're getting a live action sequel. So how to do you.

Dragon, too, is also in live action. But it was so funny, Gerard Butler got to hype himself up for like four minutes, and I was like, totally one man. Go pal. Natalie O'Rallis, new movie reminded me of how much I love the middleman. Corey, do you follow Javier Grillo, Max Marx, Marx Comics, or watch the show? I don't. I've heard good things, but that's one of those comics that I was, like, too late on.

I've heard the show is good, but that's not my world. Fair enough. Buster Barnes. The sneak peek was great. It looks even better than I thought it would. Visual, suit, CGI, all fire. I like how the robots get more human as they're made. Yeah, I guess that's another question too, right?

Is how much like AI is in how like they got to set it up. It's got to be more. I'm with Winston right now. But go ahead, Winston. No, no, I was just to say the other thing too that I appreciate is that the one thing that the robots did get me excited about is that was giving me very all-star Superman. I was very much appreciative of them leaning into that. The only thing about all-star Superman as much as I love that comic, that is a story about Superman. man dying and if you're starting off your universe i'm just like all right let's do some of it but

let's also not kill superman in the first movie uh who's this old man mike there he is impressions dropping by to record black bad thank you my old man mike always happy to have you on the show uh 45 at the moment guys 45 with about 20 minutes or 40 minutes left also i know that it you know we weren't on when this happened but rest in peace to the other top gun guy man shit oh yeah well i think someone someone but that's i was saving it because someone's uh yeah yeah so we'll get to that in just a moment we'll talk a little bit about him uh uh r honestly it wasn't a fan of the humor in the superman footage dude is dying and it becomes played for humor visually looks great won't judge on this i don't disagree with you are i think

that it's but it's like i kept saying though it's just a matter of context it's a matter of you got to remember think about it this way also by the time that you get there is the the previous like five minutes serious are you locked into it are you feeling oh and do you maybe need to laugh and do you need to feel hopeful from that maybe that's kind of the point of it but i don't disagree that if it's like okay he gets in a boom we're supposed to feel like oh man there's all this like despair and then you get the hopping of the dog and his leg is moving all right and his leg is moving all right and he's moving on it all goofily and shit. Then it'll seem awkward. But I don't disagree. All right. Next one. And we will get to

rescue. Yeah, go ahead. I was just like, Coy, because I was thinking for a second. I just unlocked a memory. Didn't, wasn't it in Secret Wars when God Emperor Doom just straight up ripped out Thanos's

spine? Yeah, yeah. When Christian said that he had to body Thanos, I was like canon. Because like literally God Emperor has pulled his fatalityed him because he doesn't even ask him he's like do you have the infinity god he's like no i don't it just disintegration just that could also happen yeah uh rescuing mcc humor and the flash cinematography is a recipe for disaster i don't know flash i'm a ramy fan and a killed marvel we don't need this for dc the batman quality i understand what you want a little bit more serious for superman but i think we got that in a and i like man of steel um but i think we

definitely need more lighthearted but it depends on we you're not wrong I don't want to see MCU humor in this movie I don't want to see a lot of it you know if there's but you would get that whole he talked to me stuff throughout the entire movie it's gonna it's gonna wear on me it's gonna wear on me so it depends on how the tone is it really does okay uh but yeah you guys who are on the same I know Corey definitely feels like you don't you don't want to see another serious Superman you want more of the the hopeful I want to see a Superman that I've been read my whole life. I want to see the Superman that you were the one that got me

into Superman the movie. Like that that is hopeful kind of doofy Clark but also I'm actually a superstellar the only thing I don't want to see. Why did you need to kiss that random chick while you were covered in the Superdine the Kryptonite Jane Man? Ms. Testbocker's in this.

Yeah, dude. Why did you need to back on Ms. Tesbocker? You need to do that. That was untested. That was Spider-Man kissing Gwen in front of Mary Jane Bulls. No, well, no. No. It's lower than there. It doesn't make sense. That's fine.

Not making sense. It makes sense when you look at Ms. Test Mogger. But as far as like, you know, yeah, that's never going to. Peter kissing her right in front, right after they's had this whole conversation. Oh, man. Insane. Before the black suit.

What are you doing, Pete? I know. Jason Ashcropp. Optimistic about Superman, didn't love the scene that was released, but I'm hoping it's a little more serious of the tone. Yeah. Let's let's see what we get. Let's see what we get. Buster Brown. To be fair,

Crypto has probably never seen Superman injured before. I doubt they've ever been together that long, and he's probably arrived with Supergirl. That's a good point. Probably doesn't know what he's doing. He's never seen him hurt like that before, so maybe he doesn't know. Guarantee they play a lot of fetch,

and the whistle is typically to cut, let's play, and that's probably why. Right. That could be. Go pal. I love when the John Williams team kicked in. I loved that. I love that.

That score is so good. Love that. Who's composing? is the same guy who composed guardians i don't remember but it i wasn't it john murph that sounds right i thought i said john murphy but who and he composed guardians and he and suicide squad and all that i'm i'm assuming that seems some composed or i would assume so um all right currently you guys just hit 50 head 50 and you do it let's see um okay next question again thank you to everybody who has been a part of the chat today i'm part of the conversation in general i'm so glad that you guys are

here. I'm so glad for our first reunion show with myself, Winston and Quay, back on the show. Joey Pedrus, who do you think is the biggest pull for the average movie goer for Thunderbolts? Florence, for Sebastian, or somebody else? I actually think it's David Harbor. I'd say those three. I'd go Sebastian for Marvel fans, Florence, for casual fans, and Harbor for like a blend. He said average movie goer. Oh, then I would say average would be Florence or Harbor.

Right. The question is who, like, because even with Florence, What, what movie has Florence Pugh been in? John Murphy is a composer. Okay. And we assume he did that stuff. But so what movie has Florence Pugh been in? That's like a, Dune, right?

But she's not the lead in that. Midsummer. Right. The one about the little women. You're right. Little women. So she- All in Oppenheimer, small role in little women, small role in,

or not small role in little women, small movie and a little movie and then once she just said with Andrew Garford she I mean she's phenomenal she's good and she was in Oppenheimer also obviously but again not the star of that movie she hasn't been to starve anything um that big not of anything I shouldn't say that star of anything like so massive for for as far as the average movie goers the point of this whereas Harbour's stranger things and if you said to somebody okay who's in it and you go Florence Pew to the average movie goer they go who's that well she was in this this is oh yeah yeah I know she is as opposed to David Harbour he's Hopper from

Stranger Things. Oh, yeah, I don't happen. I think you, I think you're getting more average movie goer. Go ahead, go ahead. I was just going to say it's also crazy that that's this year, adding to the event nature of how crazy this year is that we're wrapping up Stranger Things. So like Harbor having these two hits this year is crazy. I think, you know, like I hear what you're saying that she hasn't necessarily been at like the straight forefront, but she's one of those actresses like, I'm trying to think who would be a good example, like maybe in the 90s to compared to, but she's one of those addresses that, A, because she has an Oscar and B, because of where she gets strategically placed. So being, kind of stealing the role or stealing the thunder

away from Scarlett and Black Widow and because, you know what I'm saying? Like, she, she has been enough in the zeitgeist, let alone, like, you know, she was doing like the sheer dresses and talking about, like, her body and stuff like that. A lot of people resonated to that. Like, I, I just think that she's enough in the zeitgeist that she just has that pole. I think she is. I'm not saying she doesn't i'm just saying if who if if i was telling somebody outside just the average movie goer if they're like who's in that movie and no actually none of those neither one julie louis that's the selling point because you know it's but but that's that's the name anyway jim one rip to val kilmer love the scenes in batman forever where he narrates a flashback of young bruce face

facing down the bat in the cave to realize his destiny yeah we were going over his entire like library and everything that he's done i mean obviously have heat two coming out soon but heat's one of the best uh the doors something i always remember too real um real genius uh top secret top gun i mean so much but that was pretty coy you were in you were in Vegas when that news broke huh yeah kiss kiss kiss bang bang is my favorite comedy that that and bruges are my two favorite comedies ever made and um i always love that he went from being action star of my childhood to comedy star of my adulthood and then like bounced around all of it because I was such a big top gun guy and then I discovered tombstone in my 20s and then I discovered like a heat in my mid 20s. So he stayed action. And then as soon as

I thought I like figured out Val Kilmer, then he's like the funniest dude and kiss kiss. And then like when I discovered that, he was about to be Mark Twain for 10 years. So the guy's just fascinating. His art was amazing. He was always so funny online. I think he's one of the big movie stars of like our generation, like people that are late 80s born. This one hurt because Like he's so impactful for so much of my life. Yeah, Winston, I saw you, you'd seen it pretty late at night. I saw a text from you, obviously, after I'd heard the news. I saw that you, too.

Around when it drops. Yeah. So, I mean, this is probably, he's probably one of the Batman for you, right? When you were kind of growing up. Totally Batman. I mean, like, there's, obviously I've seen him throughout all over the place. But, like, that was, I had seen 89 in returns, but I was too young to retain anything. Batman Forever was like the first.

Batman movie that is like fully planted in my mind so for me even though like I always say when people ask who's your favorite Batman I go Kevin Conroy also rest in peace in my mind he's the first live action Batman I saw in the same way that Pierce Broson is the first live action bond I saw so it just there is an imprint there and then from that point forward going back and seeing the rest of his filmography is just what's crazy and boy worked man a hundred according to IMPD B a hundred and three movies you need a lot of stuff but I repeated to the legend um velcum i would also recommend to everybody to check out that that uh documentary val it's great

it's great uh so there were three up top though we missed zeke ziki numa numahulu i definitely said that wrong will you watch and or season one prior to season two airing i will and then rewatch row one after season two ends no because i've already seen two episodes of season two that's all i can say i'm watching um the whole season pretty soon so no i'm not going to rewatch it um but then i probably will watch rogue one depending on how it how it ends ziki then follows it up and says each episode of dare double born again gets better and episode seven was peak in the fight with muse oh my god i'm with you and kui's on the opposite side but i'm with you first one for me but i like that you liked it yeah and then ziki also says where's nick monday

at these days i have no idea i haven't spoken to him in a long time real real quick i just i i i'm still stuck on the valve thing for half a second. I also think that it's a very beautiful thing that we actually got to kind of say or goodbye to him in Maverick. I know. It really was almost an homage to like, you know, the sickness it kind of kicked in there. It really felt like us being

able to say goodbye a few years ago. It's true. Okay, Alex, I know a lot of us have thought that Galactus would cost the encouragement for Fantastic War, but maybe Doom will take out Galactus to show us his power and then the world of two, battle world leading us to

dare double. Doom taking out of blackers would be a hell of a power scale. I like that idea. Yeah, and he also follows that up and says this would set up an arc for the Fantastic Four redemption. I mean, that's, he's not wrong. Alex comes up with some great points. Yeah, that's a good, I like that. I like that idea.

I mean, yeah, if he's the one actually comes in and do it, but I don't think they're going to lean on him to do it, though, because I think they do want to establish the Fantastic Four, again, as viable heroes. But who knows? Austin B. Hey, Coy, what artist did that Wolverine art on your wall? I'm really into it. That is Cassaday and Eisenove on colors and inks.

So Cassaday is incredible. He did the astonishing X-Men stuff. And then the Isinov ink and color really makes it pop. It's a good one. It's a good one. Yeah, I do like that one a lot. And that Rita Hayworth one is the one from Shawshank, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Again, we are right now currently at 59. 59 for Coy and Winston. And now we get to the next one is the Cali Kid. Coy equals God. Look at that, Coy. You got a lot of

deity. Okay. Next one. Again, a lot of questions coming in here. Trying to get you past Steph. Go, pal. I just saw a thing saying that Anne Hathaway and Robert Pattinson are about to start filming the Odyssey. Did we know they were going to be in it? Yes.

Cast is insane. And anytime I hear someone new them like that tracks. Yeah, but that I knew, I knew Hathanson was in a new half that I knew both of them were in a half Hathways worked with Nolan in the past as has Patinson so I think it's just like he's getting all his all-stars and and for this one but yeah absolutely it's be his last movie no I think it'll be the generational movie though like this is like this is huge yeah no yeah he they were interviewing him and they said will you be making movies in 10 years and without hesitation so what if you had to pin this up against another director and like they're they are quintessential film what What would, who would you compare it to? I got to see the movie first. I got to, before I even say that, I got to see the movie. I mean, this is, yeah, it depends on the epic on what kind of scale it is and how it, and how it plays.

I mean, I am, it's, it's quickly because I don't, I'm so stressed out about my 2026, uh, most anticipated list. Like, I do not know where I'm going to put this. It's, it goes, it could jump into that number one spot. So, so to that point, I'm just, just curious because again, I'm just in it, like, the way this is being built out it feels like this is his magnum opus and obviously it's still go what what would you say like is spillberg's greatest movie ever like his his cornerstone piece i think say uh no is the best movie ever made like the thing that when you think spilberg you think not only top of his game but then like

associated with the name because like i know i know for example that Cameron has done a lot but i would still argue that it's titanic based off of just what it did sure but i think spilberg would tell you it's chinler's list i think what he did yeah from what he did that that movie has a in general like what it is and like you can't watch a movie more than once um not not because it's not beautiful and not because it's just i mean to that's putting it mildly um so that my favorite spilberg movie is actually saving private ryan followed by followed by uh raiders of the lost arc so so uh but i think everyone people say jaws for spilberg right right right right it's hard but um Anyway, let's, uh, Kenya King.

So the sway box animation for dynamic duo is amazing. Oh, you're muted, Quaid. You muted yourself for some reason. Oh, sorry. Moving around the trash cans were wrong much. I think in Spider-Verse changed animation. I think this is going to do that for puppetry blending with CGI. It gobsmacked me.

It was so cool. Austin B. I'll say a question. I was initially against using the Williams team and Gun Superman, but with the teaser and a sneak peek, I'm with you. Really hope this movie hits. Yeah. I mean, I never, I mean, I get it, I guess the hesitation.

We need a new theme for Superman. I understand that. But I've always used that argument of if you have a, if a character that iconic gets hit with a theme that works that people associate it with and the way they did with James Bond, you should use it. Moving for like, I think Harry Potter in the new series should use the John Williams theme. Like don't come up with a new theme. Don't try it.

It's because you associate it too much with it. Hans Zimmer did a great job for Man of Steel. It would have to be so drastically different because, like, for example, Nolan did his own thing with Batman. Like, there is a Batman-Begns era, or Nolan Batman-era Batman theme or Dark Night theme versus the, you know what I mean? So.

Thank you to DJ Case for the support and super sticker as well. Jim one, will Disney World ever get the rights back for Marvel? I don't think so because the, the, it's different rights on that side of the Mississippi. So Universal, like if you go to that theme park, they've got the comic rights. They don't have the Marvel movie rights. So I actually like going to Universal and the West Coast more than I like going to Disneyland here, because here it's that weird military Avengers tone, whereas there's giant 30-foot Wolverine art

and like Fantastic Four eateries and like it feels like comics. So I hope not. Okay. Go-Pel. Did I see a still of a live-action Robin yesterday? I don't think so. I don't think so. frame may it's not a claimation still from sway box maybe uh DJ case it gifted 10

memberships thank you it's a great time to have it I always tell everybody who's a new member make sure the first thing you do is go read the capes and cows comic book it's got the three of us as the lead characters once the whole thing is done we are going to be doing the voices adding music to it and sound effects and all that stuff too is going to be great so make sure you check that as well as we have the unedited reactions and other things there's a lot going on Dean Lewis, what's up, Dean? Digging the fade, Winston, drip, drip, drip.

That's all. I haven't heard that drip, drip, in a while. Go, pal. Are they doing a Robin movie I didn't know about? I don't think so. Not that I know. I think maybe just the dynamic duo thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Currently 15 minutes left, 66, gentlemen. Not bad. Patty Boy, this is two fun, Winston's Dodgers custom jersey. How are they doing this year, Winston? I mean, Joey Otani literally told the, Braves to hold his beer when they thought they were going to OT. That was fun.

You know, you're next running for your next Jennings. Tyler Fifer. Fair enough. I thought Thanos was more powerful. Yeah. Do is going to have to be God and Purdue to skim. That's just going to have to do it. It has to be.

DJK support. DJK support. Thank you, sir. Tyler, who's, uh, Trey, excuse me, Trey. Uh, one and two.

I got tickets to my first ever concert for the Wu-Tang Clan and their second to last show and their final tour in Newark this how cool is that i'm so jealous that's amazing and isn't run the jewels opening for them what a what a duo what's insane i really want to go i see it a few hundred dollars i want to go too are they going to be at the garden probably that'd be what i but i wouldn't be surprised if they don't do the garden and they do something bigger if this is it garden's pretty big dude no no no i know that but i'm saying like isn't isn't isn't like the metal lands like you know what i'm saying like a like a giant stadium yeah i don't really i know i know that but i'm saying like a like a giant stadium

Yeah, I don't like the sound. I would have I would want to do the garden. Metallands is too, is, it's just sounded in the best. Dancing Dog 60. Hey guys, fun fact. Back in the 70s, New York City was the con to attend. In the 80s, it was a Chicago Comic Con, now at San Diego. New York needs a big comeback.

Doesn't, you know, that's one, Winston. I've never been to New York Comic Con. Dude, I love both those cons so much. Are you going this year, Coy? I'm going to try, yeah. Okay. And I want to try to add a day or two on either the front or back in so I can be in New York, so I love that city.

You should try. and she'll also see if you can have a date you get it should come in here yeah i want to see and get that pizza you're just there's like a bunch of different places i could take you uh d2 i'm hoping you show sam agatha all along reactions if she loves wandavision she does love wandavision she really did um and we're watching she's coming in just a little bit we're going to finish watching falcon and winter soldier uh but i'll probably have her watch there's going to be a couple series that i have i can i'm going to suggest to her and say look if you want to be caught up in this watch this on your own of your own time. That will probably be

Miss Marvel. That will be She-Hulk. That will be Secret Invasion. And that'll probably be Agatha. On the ones she can watch on her own. Trey, following up, have you guys ever seen them in concert? And do you have any first time concert memories or great concert memory stories in general? I always tell this one where people

ask this question about Brian Adams and Def Leppard, was the first one I ever went to. It was a lot of fun. But the one that I, the most that I had fun was when I took my wife to Dodgers Stadium, actually, see Guns and Roses. That was awesome. Oh, nice.

It was great. Yeah. My first concert, I went to OzFest. I was 14, and it was a slip knot, Papa Roach, lots of bands I still listen to. And it was really cool because last week I got to go backstage of Papa Roach and, like, tell Jacobi he was my first concert. Because my publicist reps Papa Roach. So I literally got to like full circle 20 years later, you know, hang with Jacoby and see Papa Roach, like, inside seats, like the closest I've ever possibly been. after having saved up for six months of allowance to see them at Oz Fest.

So it was really cool. Winston? First concert, I can't remember, but I will say I've been to, I want to say, all but two childish Gambino concerts, which is, every time was fantastic. I remember early on when he was still doing standup. He was doing half music, half standup, which was just absolutely just sick as fuck. So that was probably, excuse my language. So probably that.

And I have seen run the jewels. I haven't seen Wu Tang now. Run the jewels and I definitely will love. So good. Okay, let's see. Next question here, gentlemen. And we have Chris Grenier. If Schnapp was still here,

who would you cast him as in a comic book film or show? I think he would have been a great beyonder. I was going to say beyond it. He would be a great beyonder. I think he'd love, and this is going to sound like a job, but I think he'd love it. I think he would have loved to have been moleman.

Yeah, based off of what y'all have told me about him, I feel like he would have really love. I just see him with the cane and like the green. I just think he would have loved that. Or like his favorite character that was Modoc. I think he would have loved being Modoc. Oh, that would have been great to. He was the one always told me about Moon Night.

I didn't know nothing about Moon Night. Skyler Shatman. For Wick 5, I want him to take down the whole system, the high table while using his supposed death to his advantage, emphasizing stealth. Yeah, I mean, they announced they're definitely going to be doing more. John Wick, clearly he survived. So they're doing another one.

So yeah, I mean, that'd be interesting if they do it that way. Did you watch that stuff? I was in there for all that. I got to see eight minutes of ballerina, which looks amazing. They're doing an anime's prequel to John Wick. They're also doing a Johnny Yen directed and starring spinoff. And then John Wick 5 was confirmed. I hope he died and he fights God.

Interesting. All right. Meek Pelly, the vibe I'm getting from Superman's tone feels very earnest, a good balance of sincerity, humor, seriousness, and fun. It's a good observation. I like that a lot. D2. I love the crypto scene.

That's a dog excited to see his owner. It's very realistic. James Gunn balances heart and humor. I can't wait. People need to chill. I think people need to wait and see for sure. It's hard to judge it. Oh, that looks terrible.

I just said, I'm just curious. Yeah. Okay, let's see. This is, look at Sean McCabe. What's up, Sean? Good afternoon, guys. Always a pleasure to see you. Thank you, Sean.

The Superman score is amazing. Hoy, I saw a clip of you speaking on expectations for Doom. It was great. Christian Deer Devil is killing it. Winston, you rock. Sean Ron. Just the kindness. Thank you.

Sean's a really good dude. Special ed. If you're pro-black super chat, breach. What does that mean? If you're pro-black super chat, beach. Mustache snowman. I don't know.

Kind of over my head. Chris Craneer. It would be great if that soup scene is at the beginning with voiceover. So you're probably wondering how I'm... So you're probably wondering. you. Scratch, John Cusack or whoever was.

Jake Akveda shows up on the day that Roxy and Steph is in here. I don't want Steffar Rocks to lose the Super Shot War, but I have to say that midsummer, it's absolutely trash. This take is white, I mean, okay,

here's the thing. I don't understand why people think that movie is scary. I don't understand that at all because I'll be, I said this after I watched it for the first time, like a couple months ago.

every one of my black instincts would have kicked it and been like, why the hell are we going in the middle of the woods and people we ain't never heard of before and we ain't got, what? No, hell, no, I'm going home. Like, that's the problem that I had. I was like, you're just taking drugs from random strangers that you've never met before. Hell no. I think it's a good movie, but I also thought it was very unrealistic for that reason.

Yeah, I didn't see it, and I really don't have any interest. You never saw it? I don't see it either. I don't care. Whoa. Yeah, and I think it was one of the reasons because it, Because Drina talked about it like it was like, you know, the godfather. And I was like, I don't care to say.

The Cali Kid, Val Kilmer, Callie Kid, RIP, hell yeah. Are. Winston, how you feel about Cowboys Parsons contract situation? Might be time to take Grandpa's Keys away. Christian, who do you hope to see in the giant strap? I think, again, I mean, I'd like to see somebody Florida State goes to get the hell out of Florida State. It's so bad right now.

But, Winter, what do you think as far as... That's pissing me off, man. Yes, we should... Grandpa should have had his keys taken away a long time ago, but Jerry Jones is not going to let go of anything for anybody. He's an actor now. Go do that. Let somebody else be GM.

Go act. Boy, thoughts? You know, I'm really excited for Clark Kent to be drafted from Kansas. I think he's going to do good things. Do we have any Spawn fans? I love Spawn. I remember Farland talking about a new film. Let me rewrite that.

Joey Pedro says, do we have any Spawn fans here? I remember Tom McFarland talking about a new film any chance he gets, but it seems quite think a Spawn movie could be big. I would love it. I would love it. I would love it. I loved it. And when I interviewed Todd McFarley,

we talked about it at that time, it was like it's going to happen. And every time I see him interview, yeah, seems like it's going to happen. I talked to Todd about Spawn movie with Jamie Fox, the same Spawn movie when I worked at Collider. I know. That's what I'm saying.

It was Clyder Live when I interviewed. Why? I was so good. Get them back, bro. I love it. Anthony Borrelli, I teach ninth graders, and I mentioned being excited for Superman. They replied with, there's a new Superman coming out and with Cavill. That is a, that's a thing.

I'm telling you, that's the thing. Because, like, this is what people don't understand. Because if you watch shows like this, you think everybody knows about it. They don't. And they don't. And they're not as tuned in, but they have no idea about James Gunn running the DCU and all that. They have no clue. Until they start doing serious press, so until you, until you see them on the late night shows, until you see them on like, you know, hey, it's the NBA finals that brought to you by Superman.

Like until that happens, a lot of people are not going to be as, as, you know, aware. Totally agree. D2. Quay, more kiddie screen time, please. Such a sweetie. He just left, but he was here's vibe. And he appreciates it, D. The winter shoulder, shoulder, excuse me.

Captain Ironman and Thor had a great dynamic in. Avengers. Sam and Bucky have a great relationship, but will Thor fit back in with them? I think so, but they, they really have to reestablish Thor. They have to reestablish Thor. He's got, he's got to get out of Saturday Night Live. He's got to, the comedy stuff, fine. You were funny. We know how funny Chris Hensworth can be. He's great. I know how they're going to do it, though. I honestly think if we, now that we know that Hiddleston's coming back, I think Thor seeing his brother is going to change a lot. Maybe. And like, that's true. And to that, Yeah, I mean, that version of Loki is just so different, right?

We'll see. Dancing Dog 60. Back when Cobra came out, I drank course because John drank one at the beginning, I was young. So has product placement in film made you buy anything? That's a fun question. Yeah, this is a great question. I mean, I'm sure the answer is yes. And maybe even subconsciously, you know, that it's happened from watching it for sure.

But I don't know, I don't know up top of it. Like, I mean, again, back to what we were talking about Val Kilmer, I remember. them eating McDonald's in Batman forever. And then they had the collectible cups, like the glass cups. And I was like, I got to go McDonald's. Yeah. Yeah, I've definitely craved things impulsively. I can't think of any, but I definitely'm like, oh, want that.

And I'm like, man, my willpower is garbage. There's no way they would do it these days because there'd be stupid TikTok videos of people smashing it over each other's heads. But back in the day when during the Empire Strikes Back, Return the Jedi, Burger King had, like, they gave away like these, they sold these glasses, like actual glasses that you, And they were awesome. I remember like everybody had them. It was so cool.

Go pal. Winston, I saw a guitar case on your stream. Do you play? What's in there? I used to play bass in high school, and a friend of mine from a job gave me his guitar when he moved out of L.A., and I started to learn how to play, but I did not commit. But I'm hoping that I will one day stop.

That's right. Spider-Man Ryan at Universal Landor Rocks. I didn't know there one. It really does. It's awesome. That's great. Go, pal. Run the jewels open.

rage when I took my niece and nephew. They're 26 and 23 now and we're clowning RTG hard. Yeah, not now. Not now. That sounds like a dope show. So good. The Mohave Social Club, why they decided to show three minutes of footage before a proper trailer for Superman to the public? I think it's risky if the tone doesn't hit. I mean, they do need to show a different trailer. I don't disagree with that. It is interesting. I don't really disagree with them. Why did they go with that instead of a new trailer and then footage. There's a big, like, an avert, I don't know this, I want to preface, this isn't inside DC studios knowledge, it's assumption. But James Gunn said on some social media that he's

finishing up the next trailer. Superman Day is a big holiday and that's, that's like in April. So that times out better for the movie release and his day is, I think, bigger impact. Trey Porter, yeah, question. The Wu is doing the garden the day before July 16th. Tickets are selling fast. Saw row that cost almost $1,500 each. Oh my God. Their last concert ever, so. Roxy was talking about this other day. Ticket prices are for concerts are crime. Special Ed.

Talking about someone I love to seeing concert. My uncle married a beautiful black queen and had eight kids. Malik Mohammed. It looks like Sinners is getting great reactions. Really? I didn't realize people saw it. I also saw someone say that the trailers don't show a lot, so too much wasn't spoiled. Okay.

I'm happy. The premiere was in New York last night. And I think there's screening starting next week. There were screenings actually already. Because I saw a few people that I know that also do reviews and stuff like that, that they got access to go see it already. And some are saying that this is Googleers best. No.

Well, the press screenings haven't started yet, though. But I think those do start next week. But we'll see. We'll see. Haskell. Yo, last supertrap for a long time, car broke down. Gear Shift cable or gear switch has gone. if the gear switch is the problem amount 500 oh man

the gear shift cable's fd this that's parts no longer available i would assume is what he's going to say next we'll find out soon uh dancing dog 60 do you guys missed the wb and u pn i do i do wbb oh wayne's brothers jamie fox show like baddick man i was big old school uh so he made it for my 2004 santa fe and no aftermarket parts available for it anymore man i'm sorry ed my car would be dead and forced to buy a new use car which I sure can't afford so I might as well could have ship take money off Ed, it's a little terrible.

I'm so glad. Somebody that literally just went through some shit. Oh, you did. You just went through that. That's horrible, buddy. I hope that gets better. I hope it's the lesser of the option. The Blazing Kitties.

Question for all three of you. If DC want to realize every new Power Girl movie, what actress do you choose for the part? Let me rephrase that question. Question for the two of you guys. If DC, one of those ever do a Power Girl movie, what actress do you choose with a part? Meaning, I don't know what that is. I got two words for you, because I know the

Power Girl casting me based off two other things, and that is Sidney, Sweeney. Or are you going at an old school Christina Hendrix or something like that? Hold on, Christian. I will send you a photo of PowerPers. I think I know what it is. Like the little ones

and they're going, eh. Edward Collins the second. You see that. There you go. Guy Ritchie is directing Roadhouse 2. Is that real? Is that true? Someone verify because that's amazing news.

Yeah, I don't know. I didn't see that. He might be busting jobs. Motor Roland, baseball talk. Luke went four for the other day. It's amazing. Two singles, two doubles. He's six.

If everybody was going to ask, coaches are pitching. That's great. That's great, Joe. Wow, he's six already. Holy crap. Talks reportedly via screener. Wow, look at that.

Talks to direct Roadhouse 2. Potential theatrical release after reboot was released on streaming that's fun that's a look at koi coy just boy just had a move over odyssey guy rich he's doing roadhouse too the rocks ufl is really bad lousy football says dancing dog 60 never watched the frame of it wouldn't be able to say don't know yeah zeus fleming hey all sorry just finally got to l.A for my classes so money and time has been tight happy to see everyone hope you're all still kicking us we are zeus and hopefully you uh you come back in and

check out what's going on especially look you remember also stop by the Q&A. Be part of it. This is for D for the Super Chair. There you go. Perfect. Brett Flint,

are we going to see Charles die again? I'll walk out. Winston, Winston doesn't think he died in Logan. So, man, you just love,

you were the pettiest person on the year. No, no, no, that's, that's the super- every single person in the comments

was like, Winston doesn't think murder is when someone gets stabbed. You think he died of older? I thought that he was already dying of Alzheimer's. You just had the clone, push him a little quicker. That he was already dead.

We're all dying. We're all, right. He was murdered. Bro, he literally almost died in the hotel because he had his brain aneurysm crap all over. He was literally going to be dead within a couple days. He was murder. What? Definitely.

Four or five needs, uh, Amen, Armath, death. metal soundtrack. Okay. I'm so curious if you were going to do with four or five now. I don't know. Support from DJKs.

Thank you, DJKs. Droopy McCool. My mom actually worked for Burger King, so she had all the collector's cups for Return of the Jedi. I love your work guys. Thank you. I love those. I'm telling you.

Somebody, people still have those things somewhere. Armada. I got my woo tickets and weekend, too. There you go. Dude. Yeah. Spidey Sensee, 72. Saw Wu Tank, Snoop, Slick, Rick, and Nas years ago.

That's so cool. Lauren Hill was three hours late and nearly ruined. the whole show. She was someone who was so talented that just got in her own way. She just fully slipped and I don't know if it was just a full mental breaker for drugs or whatever but she just she fully

slipped and that sucks because she was at the top of the world. She's one of the only rap albums to ever win album of the year like one of two so I think Dochi makes three but I'm not sure I'm sorry. I'm an album of the year. It's only outcaste. The third female rap artist is what I was thinking of. Yes, but

as far as like album of the year it's only outcast and her that's it wow dancing dog 60 lungrens punisher is really underrated i agree i like that movie i haven't seen it a long time but i love them growing up zeus fleming best actor and actress in your opinion today or all time um actor i would say right today we'll go today i say timothy shallamee is probably the number one right now um that's where's up and coming uh and it's in general And then actress. Emily Blunt's pretty damn good. The first one that comes to mind.

I'll just put those out there, but I don't know if that's necessarily. Actor and actress. Yeah, I don't know. I'm going to go Colin Farrell right now. And then I'm a big Natalie Portman fan. I'm always happy when she's doing something. Natalie's over Colin Felt. Okay.

Armada. Also, underrated rapper become is Denzel Curry. Oh, yeah, that's very good. Yeah. Go pal. Who says, Coy, I haven't seen your DC show recently.

Is that still coming out on YouTube? It's every two weeks. So every other Friday on Max and Max's YouTube, every two weeks. And yeah, we got a bunch of really cool stuff cooking. I can't talk about it yet, but there's a big episode spread that I'm excited to have come out.

Okay. Let's see. Next one. And let's see, we have go pal. Thanks for watching. Yes, that's coming out soon. Next one is Dancing Dog

says State Farm Bateman needs to be in the DCU. Those ghost comics are those commercials? Go pal. Adelia Kane did a power girl cosplay at San Diego Comic Con pre-range. You can still pull it off, I think. Yeah, I got that freaking

power girl over my head. Motorola. Any good kiddo sports stories, There's this kid on Luke's team who I guess was goofing off too much parents had knock it off or we'll take you in this little punk reply with good. I hate this anyway I mean nothing yet is that we're actually literally just got a text from my life because my oldest is trying out for the softball team right now and my My little one wants to start playing softball so no stories yet Winston you didn't see my text I I love you to death you got to move over you would you're half your faces Have you all watched eastbound and down parts of it? I I haven't, but I've heard that it's a very good show.

I've actually been binge watching Barry right now. I don't know how I miss this when it was in its run. It's so good. Okay, we hit the end. Gentlemen, 95. Pretty damn good. Pretty damn good. Steph just had a good run.

But it's good to have you guys back. I'm glad you guys are back. And Corey, you're here next week. Okay, so we guys are back next week. We all have a lot to talk about. We had a lot in general to talk about. Thank you to everybody. So make sure you comment, click like, do all that.

Apple Podcasts, Spotify, go check out Corey Jondro at his channel. Go check out the Swaggy Blurred on his channel. Thank you guys for being here, and I appreciate you so much. Again, you haven't become a member. Please do so. We have a lot of great benefits going on here right now. I hope you check it out. And that's it.

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