The Kristian Harloff Show - THANOS RETURNING?! Avengers Secret Wars Bringing Back EVERYONE?!

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

Thanos is back? A new rumor suggests that the Mad Titan will return in the new Avengers movie. Make sense? Too much? We discuss. James Gunn talks Superman leaks, Agatha boost in ratings.  The Penguin... gets better and better. Box Office results. This and more on the show with Kristian and Rocha. #thanos #theavengers #marvel #mcu #dc #dcu #thepenguin #venom  OUR SPONSORS: VILLA: Try VIIA! https://bit.ly/viiakristianharloff and use code KRISTIAN! BILT:   Earn points by paying rent right now when you go to http://www.joinbilt.com/BIGTHING HELLO TUSHY It's time to ditch toilet paper and finally feel shower-fresh with Hello TUSHY! For a limited time, our listeners get 10% off their first bidet order when you use code BIGTHING at checkout. That's 10% off your first bidet order at http://www.HelloTUSHY.com with promo code BIGTHING  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thanos is coming back. Doom's coming back or not coming back, but Robert Dan Jr. is coming back. And maybe this person's coming back. And that person's coming back. And Howard Duck is coming back. Everybody's coming back. Question is, should they come back?
Starting point is 00:00:14 Well, that's what we're going to discuss here. Today with myself and John Roka, the box office, Venom doing some stuff at the box office. Maybe not as big as they thought domestically, but man, oh man, did pretty good overseas. So we'll discuss that. There's some pictures of Jeremy Allen White. as Bruce Springsteen.
Starting point is 00:00:32 There's a lot of stuff going on in the news, and we're here today to discuss it with you. So let's get into it, everybody. It's myself and John Roka. It is the Christian Harloff show. Let's do it. Here we go. One and all to the show.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Thanks for being here today. Joining me, as always, every Monday, John Roker coming off a big win there. Big win, big win. Let's hope you can bring that kind of mojo into tonight's Yankee game. they need it. Brother, please. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:01:16 We do. Yeah. Mike Judge. Paging Mike Judge. Mike Judge? Oh, sorry, Aaron Judge. Mike Judge probably hit better, be honest. I'll tell you who is really on my, my last, my last nerve right now. Winston A. Marshall. Oh, no. What's he growing about his? Cowboys fan. He didn't say anything right now. He's pretending he's a Dodgers fan. He's pretending because I lived in L.A. I lived in L.A. I lived in L. I lived in L.A.
Starting point is 00:01:44 So, you know, of course I'm bringing me. Never once. I've known this guy for six years. Never once I've heard of utter the Dodgers. And now he's talking Dodgers. And he's talking smack to me on texting like he's a Dodgers fan. It's like, he's like, what are you right? He's like, that's two.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And I'm like, who are you? I'm like, go back to the Rangers and the Cowboys stinking up the joint. He's going to defend himself on Friday talking about how he's a Dodgers fan. And I'm not buying it. As much as this is why I'm so. glad that he when we were they were going to cast doom do you know who his choice was who paul giamati exactly so this is what i'm saying right this is what i'm saying none of this makes sense that me john wow i'm after confront him on our show absolutely tomorrow you better i did not know
Starting point is 00:02:28 he was doing that because i bet he named the starting lineup for the dodgers six seasons ago for for god's sakes come on no he probably does now because he's probably actually been watching the games but but you know he just needed somebody to root for and to root against the yankee so it's embarrassing. I'll tell you there's a lot of stuff going on in the news and we, I told you about it and it's what we're leading the show here with is this, this Thanos
Starting point is 00:02:51 stuff and I'm sure you heard about it, right? Yeah, the rumors that he's coming back because of lady death popping up at Agatha all along. Okay. I don't know what that necessarily means for it, but you can just explain that in just a bit, but let's get to the story itself from Dark Horizons and
Starting point is 00:03:08 Thanos returns for Avengers Secret Wars with the question mark there. Every weekend, it seems it's time for another wild Marvel or DC rumor to hit, and this one weekend, this weekend is a doozy. Scooper, My Time to Shine Hello has reportedly confirmed that Josh Brolin's in talks to reprise his role as the Mad Titan Thanos for the upcoming Avengers film, presumably Secret Wars rather than Doomsday. How big a part Thanos could have isn't clear, but speculation is already flying he could be involved in the creation of battleworld and potentially replace the main antagonist from the Secret Wars comics, The Beyonder. Despite Thanos being wiped from existence in Avengers' endgame, nothing ever truly seems dead in the MCU, especially in the Multiverse saga with plenty of character variants available.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Avengers Secret Wars is expected to feature a new roster of Earth, mightiest heroes, surviving member of the original team, and some potential variants from prior Marvel movies. Filming of Doomsday kicks off in March ahead of May 1, 2026 release. Avengers Secret Wars hasn't set a filming window as of yet, but it already has locked in a May 7th, 2027 date. Both films are going to be directed by the Russo brothers. All right, John. Yeah. So this is interesting but not surprising. Am I right? I want to make sure here.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Am I out of the seems like you? No, I'm here. Okay. I want to me. I have too many, I have too many windows on. But, you know, this is a, this is something to me when I see this. It's not surprising. It also, the first thing I think of is the what if series when Thanos was in that and he comes back and Ultron cuts him in half. You know, and it's like, okay, is there going to be one of those moments? Is he going to show up? And it's like, okay, multiverse in the same way that the Thanos in the was ultimately a multiverse Thanos that showed up in end game. So they can do that again. But it doesn't take away.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Does it make sense? Can you get away with it? Sure. but it still kind of takes away from the juice of what how how much is that that moment meant and how they finally defeated that guy and he's back again here you go and I got to find him again like a final boss in a video game it's why the multiverse I think stinks but I wonder I wonder what you think about this I I'm not saying that I'm against it I'm just saying that it gets too complicated we're getting to the point right where I mean we're not
Starting point is 00:05:33 kidding, we're already here to the point where the band put out a new CD. No one bought the new CD. So they went and re-recorded their greatest hits in a different way, like different versions of their greatest hits. That's what it feels like. And look, variants lets you get away with that. Why wouldn't there be another Thanos variant that maybe could, break into this situation, could take the place of the beyonder because in introducing the beyonder now this late in the game, I think you'd have to work really hard to establish. I mean, remember, they took multiple movies to establish Thanos before you actually. actually got to experience fully who Thanos was. So we had the buildup. You're not going to get that much time with the beyonder if you were to go that route.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So it makes sense. You can have a Thanos variant that would create battle world if that's the way they're going. And now that you've introduced Lady Death in Agatha in the comics, they have a relationship. Thanos does in Infinity Gauntlet, Thanos does all of that to woo Lady Death. He wipes out half the galaxies or whatever to woo Lady Death because she wants her bodies as we've seen Agatha. So there could be an element of that. But I do agree with you. It feels a little bit like, oh, why are we bringing him back? I understand the logic. It makes sense. You can make it make sense. It can make sense.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And maybe this is why Josh turned down being Hal Jordan. Right. Because this was in play. That being said, they're going to have to work really hard to overcome some people who feel like it's just repeating what we've already seen before, you know? Yeah, because I see someone, you know, some of the comments. Well, he's a he's a, he's a God. He's a Titan God. It's like, sure, to you, you know that. Right? And people who really know the lure, they know that. But you've got to always think of the greater audience of going, well, why is Thanos back? It's like, you can explain it and you can do that. But it's can, and I think you're right. I think it's because they say, all right, we need to get people in the theater. We need to get people excited. People got excited with Thanos. How are they going to take this guy out again? Everybody's back again. What are they going to do? And it will work. Financially, it will work. It absolutely will work. It just will it hurt the overall. story, I don't know. I don't know. Like I said in the beginning, I don't, it's not that I'm opposed to this. I just, I just, it's not sure of you. What's the power dynamic too? Dr. Doom with Thanos actually going to be the main person or is Dr. Doom going to fight now? Thanos is Thanos going to be the over? Because in the comics in Secret Wars, Doom, at least the version that I remember from the 80s, I know there's a newer
Starting point is 00:07:55 version but doom fought with the heroes and against the heroes on battle world and so who is the overall villain that we're going to see here power dynamic wise is it thanos all over again or is it some or is it doom and so i i just wonder about how they're going to split that up do you think that's part of it too the nervousness of are we going to really be able to make downy a villain you know it's like okay so he's the he's the villain but it's like it's like a it's like every star war movie, they're not really bad. Right. People want to cheer for Rty J. So that could be a part of it. You make him initially villainous and he's doing these villainous things. And like we're seeing with the penguin, where we have like, okay, he's a villain, but he's also got this sweet
Starting point is 00:08:39 connection with his mom. Is he manipulating Victor? Does he really care about Victor? Is it a mixture both? And so you have that kind of complexity. So yeah, I agree. I think that's part of it too. Whereas Thanos, you can make a main villain, even though there are people like me who kind of agreed with what Thanos did, there is an element of that that he's overall villainous. So, yeah. Yeah, I'm curious to see how they're going to make this work because it doesn't say in this rumor that he said he could be one of the main villains. It could also just show up and get split in half again like he did in what if, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:11 and they just make a move. But I think it'll be something a little bit more to that. But I think, yeah, we don't know yet because we also still don't know. It just shows where Marvel is. we still don't know what the overall story is yet with leading up to this we just right now where we are I guess they're setting up a couple things in Agatha but nothing really to where it's like oh now I know where they're going fantastic force is is it seems to be the main piece that's going to lead into what we're about to see moving forward yeah yeah what we're not going to see we didn't think was bleed but now there's a new script
Starting point is 00:09:46 that's the word on the street The word in the street is that Marvel's Blade is getting a new script. This won't go away. A few days ago came the news that Marvel Studios Marshall-A-led Blade film had been delayed from its planned November 7th, 2025 release. It wasn't all surprising as a new director has not been announced and there's still no word on when production will begin beyond a hope for 2025.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Now, Daniel R.P.K is reporting that the studio is working on a brand new script for the film, and it's not clear if writer Eric Pearson remains on board. Pearson marked the sixth official writer to have a go at the script following drafts by Michael Green, Stacey O.C. Kofrear, Michael Starbury, Bo de Mayo, and Nick Puzzolato. Marvel's Kevin Feigey said back in July, the most important thing for us is not rushing it and making sure we are making the right blade movie. Pearson's draft, which was allegedly set in the present day, was said to have been the most satisfying yet, though obviously more more work needs to be done.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Okay. So what I think is happening here is, yeah, there's a new script. I still think they're going to stick with as they should. This movie will not come out until after the Avengers and the multiverse saga is done. Probably, yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, they announced, what, three new dates in 28 for more movies to come out. Yep. And as I said on the hot mic last week, I have a friend who you could say a source who was on
Starting point is 00:11:18 the Disney studio lots and they were at Marvel at their offices on the first floor they saw Mahar Shah Lee go upstairs to the Marvel offices and then he came back down after some time and left with his friend and he said out loud he's telling his friend that he felt very good about what he heard up there and that may have been the new script he may have looked at read the new script I've been to the Marvel offices for that Black Panther project way back when at Collider so I know they keep the script you have to go into the room, you have to sign an NDA, and they monitor you as you read the script. So that may have been what he was doing up there reading the new script and seeing the new details. And so maybe he's really excited about this new script that they're referencing here. So it makes all the sense in the
Starting point is 00:12:03 world. You want to keep an Oscar winning actor like Marjali. You got to propose certain things. And maybe the script now is in the right place. Now you've got to find a director. And now you've got some time to get it right. It seems like. I need to get something right. Because I wasn't sure if I heard it the right way but the chat can you go back did you say you agreed with thanos oh thanos was right what he's talking about i mean come on then i was right we're overpopulated he he he he but that's but that's how he doesn't be snapping by snapping away stab it away half and look the way he did what that was you what was it was one of this lady outlaw it sucks it's the life wow well i can't control an earthquake can you control it's not an
Starting point is 00:12:43 earthquake that's the earthquake is this is someone deciding to snap away Yeah, half the world is half the universe is gone. It would suck. It sucks. We all got to get over things when they happen. And the reason the reason it works is because like he said in the movie, he didn't judge by wealth. He didn't judge by race. He didn't judge by gender. He didn't judge by it was just random, the people who were taken. And that's equal. That's equal. True equality. I think you're out of your mind. I think you're out of your mind.
Starting point is 00:13:10 The constructs of the film. I'm not advocating that obviously. I know you're saying in the movie itself. I know you're saying, but it's, but four people run away. with this idea that I want half the world dead. I'm saying what he did in the film itself, but still, it's like, you're right. I'm going to be, I'm telling you, there's a reason why the outlaw was one of the biggest villains for a long time. I'll tell you that,
Starting point is 00:13:31 lunatic. Look, Thanos was right. There's a lot of merchandise. People do think Thanos was right. There's a huge campaign of people who support. And you're on, and you're on board, huh? I am. I was, I am on board. That's why you were, uh, whatever, whatever the name of your team is now, I was going to say the old team.
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Starting point is 00:17:42 Mike and, Mike and Brett topped you at one point. And then Winston and Coy took the week last week with like with 112. Well, that's, listen, what? You're asking me to fight against two on one. Hey, Steph did it once by yourself too. Yeah, but mostly the one-on-ones work more. I think that for you, I think usually set it off and then people want to, people want to compete. But I'm telling you, I think that right now you're 13.
Starting point is 00:18:12 13, just saying. What is happening with you all, man? What is it going on a Monday morning? Listen, Christian doesn't want me to threaten you all anymore, which I think is unfit. I should be able to go to your house and do that. Knowing you, you just snap them away. Then half of your pets are gone. Stand in your stuff, people.
Starting point is 00:18:30 What are you doing right now? We got stuff talking about. What you thoughts on Blade? What your thoughts on the Penguin episode? What your thoughts on Thanos coming back? What are you all doing? Just sitting now with your legs up. I get it.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I'm wearing to wash the commander's hat. We shocked the bears. but for God's sakes send in your love for God's sakes come on you know I had on I tell you I had Mark Paul Gossler on last week yeah how did I go how was it's great it was really good then I had Matthew Lillard and I have um I got I got Renzi Felice from the penguin on this with you already interview him I already interviewed him I went into the city Manhattan he was great great kid really really like him a lot and um and so I asked him up miles Morales I asked a bunch of stuff right and that's going to air on Wednesday, I believe.
Starting point is 00:19:15 But I put everything up on this clips channel, man, and it's so funny because, like, Mark Paul Gossler interview did pretty good. Did like 15,000 views or something like that. I put his clips so far, the clips that I've put on that channel and the clipout channel, is at 875,000 views so far collectively. No, no, no, no, and I haven't put Renzi up yet.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Mark Paul Gossel. I put one clip up about the fight between, Zach and A.C. Slater did almost 450,000 views. And he was talking about Dustin Diamond. I'm talking about his new show. It's like that Clips Channel is to me, it's, it, I'm so glad that people have discovered it because I can condense a lot of the interview there. So it's, it's been, it's been good.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I'm putting up Matthew Lillard clips today. Roxy's been helping me too. So it's been good. I'm pretty excited. Somebody I would love to interview eventually, did have a chance to speak with him at the Critics Chores Awards this year. And that was Jeremy Ellen White. And he is going to be playing Bruce.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Bruce. You're a Bruce guy, right? Bruce. I love Bruce. You're kidding. Bruce Springste? Well, I don't know. You picked the Beatles over the stones. I figured you wouldn't like him either. So who knows? But Jeremy Allen Wayne is Bruce Springsteen. And you know he's going to transform into him because he's that good of an actor.
Starting point is 00:20:34 I think he's one of the best we have right now. He's that good. 20th Century Studios has posted a first look of the best. star Jeremy Allen White as Bruce Springsteen in the upcoming biopic, Deliver Me from Nowhere. Project is based on Warren Zane's book of the same name and is set to focus on the making of Springsteen's sixth album, Nebraska. That's awesome. In 1982, though it lacks the most famous tracks like Born in the USA, Glory Days or Hungry Heart, it remains one the most highly regarded albums in his catalog with a solemn and thoughtful tone and challenging subject matter.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Scott Cooper is adapting the script and will direct while Eric Robinson and Ellen Goldsmith, Vane are producing. Springsteen remains a music icon fame for his energetic live performances and celebrating working class American life. Springsteen has sold more than 71 million albums in the U.S. and over 140 million worldwide. White most recently starred in the Iron Claw and has another season of the bear upcoming. I'll tell you I love this and I love the way they're doing it and I love the time period. I'll tell you why because I hope and it's not to say that it could happen but by doing it this way they're saying
Starting point is 00:21:41 him, 1982 is when he was big, but he wasn't as big obviously as the 1980, once the 1984 album, he went into another stratosphere, right? Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 But the 82 album he was still pretty damn loved and you see that period what this will allow them to do if they wanted to. Yeah. If it does very well, you can make a second one. You can make another movie.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah. Sure. Now, the chances of it doesn't usually happen that way, but it doesn't seem to be one of those movies. In the same way, what they did with like Bob Marley, right? They did the Bob Marley movie off the course of a couple different, it was really focusing around the concert and everything else, not his rise to fame and all. They showed snippets of it, but this is showing like one, just this album, if he loves playing the role and it does very well, you do a second one. Show him what happens in 1984 is he gets older. And then you can do it again in 15 years again if you wanted to do it.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I think it's a very smart way to do it if they wanted to do it that way. And it's never been done. And I love the casting. So what do you think about all that? Well, I love the look. It's a great look. Jeremy Allen White for Springsteen doesn't quite have the beards, Scraggle, Springsteen kind of look, but certainly close enough.
Starting point is 00:23:02 So it excites you to see what he's going to do with the Springsteen situation. The East Street band, you got to cast that really well. Who's going to play a little Stephen who's going to play Clarence? Like there's a lot. Max Weinberg, to see how they cast this as it goes forward. But you bring up an interesting point, Christian. They can go album by album. Because if you go to Born in the USA, that's as you said, when he becomes a mega star. It's also when he starts his relationship with the actress.
Starting point is 00:23:29 I can't remember her name. She was on Sisters that he ends up marrying. Right. Nancy. Nancy, oh shoot, what's her name Nancy? I forget. It wasn't a Juliette to Stevenson or something. I forget. No, it's Nancy something. But Eric, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:23:41 But then you could go another installment, and that's tunnel of love. And that's when him and his wife are breaking up and he's discovering that he's falling in love with Patti Ska Alpha. So there's a lot that you could go album by album. Who know you could turn Springsteen into a possible IP franchise could be really interesting if you go album by album. And because Lucky Town and Human Touch weren't received that well, you could see maybe he's going into a bit of a career lull, a depression. what's that all lead to? And then coming back and doing like Ghost of Tom Joe's exploration. So there's a lot here that you could really explore with him for sure if you wanted to go that route.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Well, just going off the point that we made about doing more more movies is that someone wrote, well, it's, it's hard. You can't do by, you can't do sequels for biopics. This isn't doesn't seem like it's a biopic. It seems like it's, it's covering one, it seems like it's covering one album. If it's, if it was, I don't disagree with you that if it was covering, you know, someone was like biopics getting sequels, where would come now? But this isn't a biopic. This is just if there's another movie, if you have this movie with this guy, if there was,
Starting point is 00:24:42 if it was fictional, it was fictional. The godfoyone is literally bio, right? Sure. But if you had, if you had, but let's say it's a fictional story about a musician who's working on an album. And he's working on an album and Jeremy Allen White goes and he puts out a great performance and people like, wow, that's an interesting character. It was really great.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Oh, I wonder what happens when he really hits it big time. Rocky 2. He wins the title, Rocky 3. what's it going to be like when he's the champ. You just think about it because you're so used to seeing all these biopics and you're so used to seeing the way that the normal formula of it, that he's playing a younger version of Springsteen. He'll get older.
Starting point is 00:25:19 This is the way Springsteen got older. So if he does and people really enjoy the performance, look if the performance isn't good, nobody sees the movie, then you don't do another one. But you could because now by doing this in 1982, if I love it, I'm going to go, oh, I want to see him perform and all the big, on glory days and all that stuff and doing that. And you just see that rise to fame in other movies.
Starting point is 00:25:39 I think it would be pretty great. But we'll see. There should be a sequel for straight out of Compton. Right, right, right. They're supposed to be. Wasn't there supposed to be? Yeah, there's rumors about it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Be a sequel to that. You see EZE dealing with AIDS, what that ends up leading to. Yes. Unification of them as friends. We're going to visit him. Like we see some of that, but like it would have been nice to explore that a sequel.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Then there's solo careers, where a cube goes, where Dre goes, all these kinds of things you could even bring in Eminem as kind of a cameo get a guy play Eminem and a cameo that's very very possible walk the line ends with him and Roseanne Carter now fully in the marriage what happens afterward happens when they go forward what happens to Johnny when he starts like not being as popular as he was what does he go through to find his way back through Rick Rubin with the Johnny Cash albums there later in life so there's there's a lot to explore with biopics of where they stop there are quite a few musical biopics that stop at a certain
Starting point is 00:26:34 section and then they do the whole blurb about what happens later but you can make a whole movie about what happens later why not i hate to do this um you know because i really like the actor that played sylvio in um in many saints although the performance was terrible um he's a great actor who's in that movie uh past lives and he's in he's in other movies but he was just a really it was a very saturday night live performance yeah what was the worst performance that or rick flair in uh in the iron claw i'd have to say rick flare i think i agree with you right because it's a bigger character it's i couldn't take i mean i couldn't take either one of them serious but but the iron claw i mean i at least saw what that dude was trying to do with sylvia i don't know what that guy
Starting point is 00:27:21 that guy didn't even he seemed like a jober that would lose to rick flair and i didn't seem like rickflare i just wonder if they said you're playing rickflare all right i don't want to see any videos i just want to play yeah terrible um i did watch the vinc mcman thing i finished the whole thing. I agree. I agree with everything that you said. It's all stuff that we knew already going in minus, you know, then they covered the stuff that was the most interesting to me was the stuff at the end, obviously, because that's the stuff. And I think it was actually the most intriguing thing about it is that all that stuff broke while they were doing it.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I'll tell you who had a little bit of egg on their face besides Vince, obviously, is Bruce Pritchard. Pritchard, totally. And they set him up in such a great way. He's set him up in such a way where he's just like, you guys, you're putting out a hit piece here. You're putting out a hit piece. It'll make Vince look so bad. And you didn't know if Vince helped me out and helped my wife and did all this stuff. And then like two days later, he's like all this stuff comes down. And it does, it made me start thinking about morally and stuff too.
Starting point is 00:28:17 It's like where, and I was got into this argument with Ryan Satin about Chris Benoit. And I'm sure there'll be people that, uh, and you might. What? Recently or years ago? Years ago. And I'm sure that you, yeah. I don't know where you stand on this. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I'm curious to hear what you think. And I'm sure that most of the audience, maybe a lot of the audience, this argues with me. I met Chris Benoit when I first got there, and he was the nicest person to me out of everyone that was there. Every single person that I remember speaking to
Starting point is 00:28:51 about writers and everything to, no one had a bad word to say about him, right? Yeah, yeah. My argument was always with, I think that he, the amount of evil that he committed what he did was there's no i mean there's nothing worse than what he did right i felt it was a man who committed an evil act who and and and ryan sat and always said no he was evil always if he could do that he was always evil i don't agree with that
Starting point is 00:29:18 i think that you know good people can do can turn to bad things and i don't know whether cTE and all that other stuff that i do believe in ct i disagree with uh stone cold stevie Austin on them. And I do think, I think that it was incredibly horrendous, atrocious, heartbreaking, everything about it. But I do think that people can do, that good people can do evil acts. And the same can be said. I think that evil people can do good acts in the same way that, yeah, he paid for your wife's cancer. He liked you. It doesn't mean that he was not an evil son of a bitch, because it sure seems like he was. But those are my, I don't know, those are my thoughts. I don't know why I've never really talked about the Benoit thing I think that's fair the CTE thing you can't remove it from the equation it's such a massive part of the equation and when you watch if you if anybody's watched that two episode dark side of the ring they did and I thought that was a really fascinating comprehensive explorations things almost three hours two parts it's a comprehensive exploration of what happened and you're right no one has a negative thing to say about Benoit as a person and everyone was shocked about how this all went down it didn't mean that they didn't see signs right which
Starting point is 00:30:28 in Darksellering that Benoit's had the explosive temper at times, but you know, you can't remove the CTE equation, the concussion equation, but using the HG, using performance and its drugs allegedly, you can't remove that from the equation when assessing him. That being said, what he did was supremely horrible. And so it's all a matter of subjectiveness to do you feel like you're okay with watching his stuff? And I think a lot of people are, but Paul Heyman, very famously destroyed Ben. And I watched it. I happen to agree with everything that he said, to be honest with you, too.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And someone even said it too. Like, you know, in the comment section, he belongs in hell. I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that. You make, you make, he made the choice to do what he did and did an evil thing. But to say that he was evil all of his life, I don't agree with that. I don't agree with it. I think he went up doing an evil thing and he's going to pay for what you believe in.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And I think Paul Heyman was, I've seen that clip. and I think he's 100% correct and what he says they're all talking about oh you know Benoit and this is like what about what about his wife what about his kid I don't disagree with anything Paul said I think 100% everything he said and I don't disagree with what Anthony
Starting point is 00:31:39 in the chat said about where you know he believes that Benoit should be I'm just saying that there are people that maybe throughout their lives did were good people and then went the other way and went a really dark evil way I just don't think
Starting point is 00:31:56 yeah it's built good good I think that's what makes it so complex, Christian, is that, you know, he not only was he a fantastic wrestler, which, of course, you can say that, well, that doesn't matter, of course. But you can't exclude things. It's all a package. He's a human being. Right. So all of it has to be assessed, right? And for the most part, everyone spoke glowingly about Benoit.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah, did he steal a woman from Kevin? And you can have all that conversation. But, like, there was stuff that went on here. and it was clear that there was a lot of affection for Benoit from the fans and the wrestlers. And so when you see them reacting to what happened to a woman and his son, that's devastating. But I think you do a crime to yourself by not also factoring in the other things that were going on here. There were extenuating circumstances. There were CTE stuff possibly involved here.
Starting point is 00:32:50 So you have to keep an open mind to the situation. of does he belong in hell in a in a linear black and white approach yes but if he was having thoughts that he couldn't control because of the CT because of the concussions because of the prescription or the performance and drugs and whatever other drugs he was taking and he wasn't thinking straight and he lost control he thought what he was doing was right then you know you have a different assessment doesn't he doesn't belong in jail doesn't mean he doesn't belong punishment if he had lived and not killed himself of course but there are other factors here that I think is have to get at in the whole and then you look at like you look at somebody they know it's different
Starting point is 00:33:26 circumstances you look somebody like a Jeffrey Dahmer that's an evil fuck right that's like born born born with evil in his brain I I think that you know and you look at all the stuff if true with everything that Vince has done that's an evil dude look at the stuff that he said to his son you look at the stuff that he said I happen to agree with what they said about I think it was Tony Atlas that said it that Shane McMahon is his problem is that he's not He was a very he was very nice. I'll tell you I meant it. Like he was, you could tell he was a tough love guy.
Starting point is 00:33:58 When I, when he was, he was nice to me. He was tough with me. He was like, Bruce Pritcher was a bit of a dick. No surprise. No, he was a dick. But, but no, Shane was, Shane was, Shane was nice, tough, but nice. Yeah. I think, I think Stephanie is my personal opinion.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And of course, you have interaction with her. Yes. But I feel like Stephanie is more like Vince than Shane is more like Vince. Which is why it's in a business aspect. Yeah. In a business aspect. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:26 I think more, I think morally she's, I think she's got, I think there's stuff that she does that, you know, whether it's cheating or doing things in a certain aspect or maybe going about business a certain way that you don't agree with. But I think that her intentions for other things are are right. And I think from what you're talking about in this documentary, it looks like, it looks like she, the second Vince came back that first time. She's like, I can't. I can't be involved in this. She had hit her wall, like, finally. Because God knows what it's like to be a woman underneath Vince in that way and be his daughter as well,
Starting point is 00:35:00 the amount of like the mixing together and all. And didn't Paul say like he got mad that she wanted to go to college or whatever? Something like that. But Paul, you look like Paul wanted to say a lot more than he did. Oh, my God. Paul wanted to say a lot more than he did. Bischoff too. I'm sure Bischoff would probably probably did say everything.
Starting point is 00:35:18 He doesn't. Yeah, they just kind of. Paul, I think Paul, Paul's. Paul's the smartest person in wrestling ever. And I've always talked about how you, I mean, I will say like he was, he, he to me, I wish I would have spent more time with Paul because the time that I did spend with him, I cherish because he was very, he was very good to me. And I feel like had I been there longer, he would have been the guy.
Starting point is 00:35:39 He was, I told you when I got there, he was the one that said, hey, after I got the job, he said, before you leave, come here. And he had me call a match because he's like, I see something with you in broadcasting. And it wasn't that, but, hey, what's up, Mike? what I mean? It's like this this has become my career and I think that Paul Heyman has an instinct to to what people and I just met him. And he's like I feel like you know what you're doing on a microphone. And so I really like Paul a lot. I met him once too and he was like, dude, you seem like you can be a movie trivia champion in the future. He said the same thing to me.
Starting point is 00:36:11 That's really great. That's really great. Anyway, I believe it. Yeah, I could see him saying that I'm gonna I'm eventually gonna get him on we go back and forth DMs we go back we go back on DMs here and there but I'm gonna I'll try to get him on anyway um switching over to the box office to which we always talk about on this show good segue we are we are we are venom we have venom uh we have venom as the number one movie and the final global is 175 it's pretty good global Sony and Marvel's Venom The Last Dance is struggling in the domestic box office, but overseas, it's a whole different story. Either way, the film came in number one, both domestically and globally, in its debut weekend. In North America, the film was on track to open a 51 million, well behind last week's projection of 65.
Starting point is 00:37:04 It's also a significant drop-off from the 90 million of the previous film. Venom let there be carnage and the 80.2 million of the first. So it's a failure? Well, no, not quite. overseas, it's beating expectations. Took in $124 million, including a major $46 million in China. The best superhero movie debut in that market since 2019 and the best Hollywood studio film debut this year.
Starting point is 00:37:29 That has raised the film's results to a global start of 175 against a relatively modest $120 million budget. Sony and financiers are said to be in good shape, and they won't be losing money on this. That said, the franchise's worst B-minus cinema score from audience suggests there's likely not much of a future for the franchise. Smile 2 takes second place, 59% drop to 9.4 million, followed by Conclave debuting with 6.5 and tying with the Wild Robot for that spot. Andrew Garfield, Florence Pew, we live in time. We'll round out the top
Starting point is 00:38:00 spot with 4.8. All right. Talk venom first, John. Okay. This, this, the thing that I'm, look, the movie, you and I both felt the same exact way about this movie. I saw you're out of the theater reaction we both felt the same way it's like if you like the the first two movies you're probably going to like this one it's the same toad not for us um in how it plays there's watching them go back and forth venom and eddie is fun there's some fun moments the buddy stuff it's a sloppy story at juno uh temple and she would tell us her for shouldn't even been in the movie um it was what was the point except if you would have cut them and put any other actors this movie probably would have cost a hundred million dollars that's where i give it an applause because of
Starting point is 00:38:42 what we've been talking about. This is the third movie in the franchise. Disney or Warner Brothers might have made this movie for $230 million thinking that, well, it's the third movie in the franchise. They made it for $100 million. They probably gave Tom Hardy some credits or whatever it is as a producer. And then they do well overseas. Doesn't surprise me that this movie did well overseas.
Starting point is 00:39:04 It's a very, I could see it completely being a movie that hits the other audiences besides just America. and it's a success. I think you pack it up and you walk away from the franchise here because I think you go to the well too many times and then you will start seeing the decline. Yeah. What do you want me to say?
Starting point is 00:39:24 What are we going to talk about? I mean, tell me about, you know, do you think that this is something, is it a success that they did this? It's a success and I'll tell you why. You don't or you do? I don't. And I don't know who wrote this Dark Horizons thing,
Starting point is 00:39:37 but you were way off. The $124 million was what it was expected to make overseas. It didn't beat expectations. It met expectations. Look back on the articles from the last week that 120 to 124 was what it was quoted on these. So it met expectations. The fact that it came in 40 million less than the last installment domestically is not good.
Starting point is 00:39:59 The fact that it came in 14 million less than the expectations from last week makes it even worse. So to me, yes, it made 175. million on 120, but we also know that a film needs to make two and a half times its budget before it sees a profit in most cases. And if that's the case here, this thing is going to squeak along, barely move along, and then it's going to die very quickly. So yes, great. If they finished the trilogy, awesome. But to me, they came out with a worse movie than the first two movies. I saw people trying to say this was the best of the three. And I'm like, you're insane. The first one is better and more charming and more interesting than this one. And I agree with Campi. I saw
Starting point is 00:40:38 Campia is out of theater reaction. Everything can't be said I felt the same way about. It was the worst of the three. It wasn't that good. It wasn't that interesting. Juno Temple and Chuechelle Alleged before they gave you about a surface of a backstory as you can for those two. Reese Eifens is the one who stole this movie. Every scene he was in, he was hilarious and stole every scene he's in. And the film criminally underused Alana Ubach, who's one of the most funniest, one of the funniest and most talented actresses working today. So there were a lot of negatives about this movie that I just frustrated me on so many levels. Fair.
Starting point is 00:41:12 But the last, the fight scene at the end, that was fun. That was very well done. So if you go see it, come in late and just watch that. I'm one of the lunatics that thinks it's probably the best of the three. Because I, maybe you can make a case for number one, maybe. But I would tell you that I think that I thought it was enjoyable, but I just, all three of them, just not, not for me. But I do think that it is, it should be looking. upon as a success because if I'm making those movies and I look at what Madame Webb made,
Starting point is 00:41:44 I'm looking at what Morbius made, Venom to me is still delivering. If I'm like, hey, look, we're going to report, we'll make our money back or we'll just break even or just, we didn't lose money in this one, guys. Is that a way? It's like going 500 in the season. Is that how you want to play it? No, but that's who's running your team right now. And they're going, okay, we did that.
Starting point is 00:42:02 So I don't think, I think a failure to them would have been if they lost money again because it would, because I don't think, I think. still think that at least gives them juice to say right or wrong, hey, we can still make these movies. Let's say, okay, here we go, Craven. Because if Craven also breaks even, they're going to keep making these movies. They're going to do the Sinister 16. Yeah, please stop going to see these movies, people, please. But I don't know how you see it's a success Christian. The first film made $856 million worldwide. Yeah. The second film made only $500 million worldwide. And this one's not even going to get to $500 million worldwide. So it's a law of diminishing returns in terms
Starting point is 00:42:37 of success. I don't know if it's a hit. I think it says, I think it's, I shouldn't say success. I should say a win. It's a win for Sony that they didn't lose money again. Yeah, it's like 16 to 15. We won. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I think that's more so what it is than do I, do I think that you can say, oh, hey, we're a big hit in our hands? No, you can't say that. Now, what I will say is that look at, look at Aquaman 2, which looked dead on arrival, week one, and battled back. Now, it didn't have much competition, and it had January to make. up some money and whatever it didn't and it made up it made up money um and I think that thing that thing broke even also Venom too doesn't have any competition really until gladiator two in a couple of weeks yeah yeah I mean heretic is not gonna I mean parrhic were probably end up doing better than than Venom but don't don't
Starting point is 00:43:29 discount the carpenter here Christian Harlov Jesus training an MMA fighter to fight it's crazy movie I saw someone tweet out about that way What movie is that? When is that coming out? What is that? It comes out this weekend. It's legitimate. You know that's a movie that if someone reacts to, they probably do 2.5 million freaking views on that thing. If it was available with digital, I might even do it. I might even do it. But I saw them putting up the, for those you don't know, this is a real movie that is coming out. It is called The Carpenter.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And I hate to give it attention, but I think it's funny to talk about. It's directed by Garrett Batty. And this one is basically a guy becomes an MMA fighter. in Jesus times and Jesus Christ trains him to be an MMA fighter in essence to fight the arena. Jesus turn the other cheek Christ is training an MMA fighter to fight him.
Starting point is 00:44:21 This is so beyond stupid. I gotta have to watch this one. And that's what they're hoping for, by the way. And that's what they're hoping for. They're hoping for in the same way that Blumhouse made that movie about a haunted pool, they're going, wait, I got an idea. Hey, is everybody, is everybody,
Starting point is 00:44:37 hey, I just got our show. Shipman of Via. We're all good. Okay, good. Hey, so they're all around there having a little party and they go, hey, listen, I had an idea. You know, you said come up with some new ideas. I got one. All right. Hear me out here. There's a guy and it's old times. I'm talking old times. And he's running and he's in, he's in Israel and he's, and he's, he's in Jerusalem. He's in Jerusalem. He's in Jerusalem and he's walking around and he's he's had he's down in his luck but he's a good fighter and he wants to start fighting and there and he knows that he potentially could fight a lion he could fight something but he's got a he's got a fight and who's going to train him Jesus and
Starting point is 00:45:21 someone goes who let that fucking guy in the room and then the other guy who also just got his shipment of via goes hey I'm in how much is going to cost us and then they do it and That's what happens. And people will go see this movie. They go, everybody's going to want to see Jesus. He doesn't fight. He doesn't fight. He's just like the Mickey.
Starting point is 00:45:45 It's like, that's what they're hoping to get you in there. It reminds me of no retreat, no surrender. You remember that movie? When the kid is trained by the ghost of Bruce Lee? Oh, my God. Ridiculous. Absolutely. What would Jesus do?
Starting point is 00:46:01 Fight. That's hilarious. That's the tag. Yeah, of course you want to see. Who doesn't want to see that now? come on that movie i you know what i hope john i hope that movie makes a billion dollars i hope that movie makes a billion dollars and teaches is all a lesson does that one get a sequel as a bio i'm telling you the middle of it and then time travel happens
Starting point is 00:46:23 stanos comes through and bruce springsteen plays a concert right in the middle of it listen i'm a christian so don't come from me but if jesus shows up as a force ghost in the sequel i'm all about it i'm all about a moment someone just wrote w w j t Why would Jesus tap? It's like, because that's the type of stuff. Like, it's like, come on. It's hilarious. And you just said like, there's like a Dana White type guy there.
Starting point is 00:46:47 And it's, it's like, wait a minute. You used, use a miracle on the guy in the middle of he can't do that. You can't do that. That's a fix. The fix is. Look what he did. He ran out of water and he ran out of the food. And the guy just made a whole bunch of food.
Starting point is 00:47:03 He gave him his fighters. He was like, you can't do that. He can't do miracles. Jesus 316 says 100%. That's so stupid. Anyway, I'm so curious what everybody thinks about all this stuff.
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Starting point is 00:49:46 We did our recent episode last Thursday. That's up there. Spill the tequila. Winston and I going off on things going on in the world of entertainment and politics there. That new episode is up as well. And then later on this week, the hot mic and more reactions and reviews. And I might be going live tonight to talk about that. insane rally yesterday and give some reviews of some other movies I saw over the weekend,
Starting point is 00:50:08 including Conclave, which I think is fantastic. I heard of good stuff going on. Is that live? Is that your new channel? Is that the, that's this, this channel? That's my regular channel. Yes. And I might be launching the new channel off that show to snap. All right. All right. Let's see. Let's get into tons of stuff here. It's so funny. I will give. I'm going to give, I'm going to give Coy and Winston some props, though. What's that? They had, they went up winning the week last week. Oh, okay. They did it without one donation from Derek Johnson.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Wow. Derek Johnson wasn't even there. That's a, that was pretty big. If I was riding the coattails of a YouTube channel with a million subscribers, I might also have a lot of people shemning stuff in. But that's, but I do it, you know, I'm a blue collar boy. I like to work from the bottom up. I don't like to start. I got to have, I got to have you guys on the, on the show together. Make sure. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Let's get into some more stuff here because we got stuff. We got stuff. All right. The first one comes in from Ian Davis, I believe. Let me see that's true. Yes, it is. All right. So Ian Davis, thank you.
Starting point is 00:51:15 I believe that James Bond is the longest running movie franchise in history. With how Marvel and Star Wars have been going lately and a lot of their movies and TV shows bombing, do you think there's ever going to be an end? An end of those? Well, Marvel's not bombing. I think that Star Wars movies, even though very disappointing, if you look at the definition of what John and I were talking about before when it came to box office, not bombing.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Now, I think that the decisions inside of the executive branch of Lucasfilm has been bombing tremendously. But no, I don't think it'll ever disappear because I think there's too much potential inside of the vast storytelling. And Marvel ain't bomb in any time soon, even if they have Captain America, America that doesn't do well. And even if, even if Thunderbolts doesn't do well, if Fantastic Four and the Avengers movies deliver, they can rebound on it. They always have the chance to rebound. Now, it'll take some gusto off of it. But them going away, no, Marvel's not going away anytime soon. And I just think, again, Star Wars needs a complete executive facelift. Yeah, I agree with a lot of what he said in and look marvel isn't a lull but doesn't mean it's it's it's bombing necessarily and look agatha
Starting point is 00:52:38 along is getting more and more more positive reactions um and we're maybe turning a corner here to see where we're going to fantastic war comes out and people love it that'll be great we'll see what happens with captain america for thunderbolts but it's a bit of a lull but doesn't mean you just give up just because there's a lull it's going to keep going and more and more creators are going to come in and want to do stuff for sure. Star Wars, I think, is a whole other situation and we'll see what happens with that, but that'll never go away. And listen, don't treat James Bond like it hasn't had lulls itself. There's a lot of people who didn't like the Timothy Dalton years. There's a lot of people who, I mean, view to a kill. There's some people who didn't like the later Roger Moore stuff.
Starting point is 00:53:16 So it wasn't like consistently banger after bangor after banger. James Bond has had some lulls as well. Isn't Dalton, Dalton's Calanowski's favorite, right? Yeah, I'm just saying, there are some people who I don't know. You're absolutely right. You're totally right. Totally Um, this, EWAC, who should star in the master and commander prequel? You know, it's so... Love that idea. Well, you know, they're actually doing it. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:53:39 The 20th century, the guy talked about it in the Hollywood border order. Which is nuts. I would tell you the dude from, uh, from Shogun. You know, I believe that I could absolutely be in this one. If you had me show up, I will be there. No matter the cause. No matter the thing. I will be there to fire out the cannons.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Fire the cannons. Cosmo Jarvis. Love, he'll be great. Yeah. Or even the dude from, uh, the, the, 1922 was in that Blake lively movie that I can never get his name right but uh they were mentioned him you did you saw the Blake lively thing or you didn't never saw it as well as no i didn't see no he's he's one he's like the main guy and he's also in 1922 um he's like the main guy main guy or the guy that
Starting point is 00:54:16 you watch 1922 no no no i'm saying in the movies he the guy she ends up with at the end or the good guy he's a good guy in it oh yeah he's enough no not not that not the director and uh yeah know um i don't know that's why i would choose of those two do you anybody in general that you would choose i thought paul moscow i mean if he keep going with the russell crows if he kicks ass guide eight or two why not him sliding into uh master and commander but which i hear he is kicking ass but i hear that movie crushes yeah yeah yeah when are you seeing it soon i think yeah i think i think i see it on the seventh yeah same yeah uh then uh ewalk coming back in says uh which 2025 dystopian Stephen King movie following contestants in a competition are you more excited for the running
Starting point is 00:55:02 man with Glenn Powell or the long walk with Cooper Hoffman and David Johnson i'll tell you it i'm a big fan of David johnson right now yeah that's that's the that's the dude from alien yeah he's i want to say i'm i am excited to follow his career um i think he is a special actor i really do what he was able to do in that role and Glenn Powell is everywhere and I love the running man it's gonna be very hard for me it's gonna snap your neck like a chicken it's gonna be very hard for to to surpass that movie one of the best ever F use to Richard Dawson fuck you it's so good it's a rip out the goddamn spine it's the best I love that movie so much it's gonna be very hard to make that uh something that I love I'll be back only and rerun
Starting point is 00:55:54 That's right. So good. I love that. Hey, light bulb. Hey, Christmas tree. So good. I mean, I guess I have to say the other one because I'm with you. I'm with David Johnson. I mean, they just announced that Coleman Domingo is going to be directing, speaking of musical biopoeuvre, he's going to be directing a biopic relationship film about Sam and Davis Jr.'s relationship with Kim Novak. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And that's it. He will be playing Kim Novak and David Johnson will play Sammy Davis Jr. So to me, that's an exciting possibility. as a film. So yeah, I'll go with the David Johnson one. Oh, but I mean, running man is fine. Don't get me wrong, but it's a cool. It's a cool idea for sure. Glenn's going to have the charm that Arnold did. I don't know that Glenn has the charm. It's going to be a very different movie. It's going to be they're going to do I know you hate it, but I didn't hate the total recall remake. I know. I didn't hate it though, but I still,
Starting point is 00:56:44 but it's dramatically different, even though some similarities is dramatically different in tone and everything else too. I'm just not a Len Weissman guy in general, but like it's and that is by the way and I don't know if we talked about this or not and I believe it but the Len Weissman stuff that the one of the reasons it got pushed back is that Chad Seleski was like no this is we're not releasing this and he went in and shot a whole yeah and he shot a whole bunch of stuff on ballerina and basically directed the whole thing I loved that story more than anything because I wanted to be true more than anything yeah I've heard I let me just say like four weeks I've heard that from the sources I have love that that that totally happened no matter what they did not and what they're saying now. And I think Jeff backed that up on his own with his own stuff. I think on it, but I think he did if I remember our conversation that he'd heard the same thing.
Starting point is 00:57:34 So it's certainly very possible. I don't know why they hired Len to begin with. I mean, Len had one, what, one good movie underworld? I'm not a Len fan, yeah. Yeah, and maybe one other good movie. I don't like what he did with diehard. Some people will say the die of, yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:48 like what he did with that at all. Hey, light bulb, hey Christmas tree over here. The best. it's not my favorite what's your favorite arnold like line in a movie you can take one because i say it the one i say all the time hey benny screw you it's the best hey benny hey benny i have to think about i kill you laugh i have to think about you remember i told you i kill you last i lied you know it's so great i knew you're an m m m m guy you're going to like this one so tomorrow's episode of matt sarah show he had oh yeah he had him frank meir
Starting point is 00:58:24 Oh, I love Frank Mears. It was Frank Meir and they were talking. Well, they were supposed to talk John Wick movies. They talked John Wick movies for like, it's like an hour episode. They talk about John Wick for like 15, 20 minutes. And who cares? Dude, they're talking. He talks about Nogarres, the arm break with Nogera.
Starting point is 00:58:40 He talks about Brock Lesnar. He talks about all that stuff, dude. Like, it was like, I text mad actors. I go, thank you for just having me be part of this show to sit through that. Like those are two, watching two UFC left. like just talk about John Wick and everything else too and it's it's awesome but they were talking about all that stuff and they talked about Frank Mear talked about that scene about Arnold when he was holding up the guy in Sully he said I told you
Starting point is 00:59:09 last I lied I eat green berets for breakfast Hank Pym Venom is the worst trilogy of movies I've ever seen and it's not even close three massive bags of vomit ouch what's the worst trilogy you've ever seen trilogy hmm I gotta see which stop Lord of the Rings stop that I gotta think of all the trilogies that are out there but I'm sure there's some
Starting point is 00:59:36 horror ones that probably would be I'm because you know what it is I don't know if I've ever seen three if they were that bad I don't know if I've ever seen three movies that I don't want to stick around for I didn't find him in Venom I don't think Venom's Venom to me is I didn't like there are times that I've been movies I'm especially when we used to watch movies
Starting point is 00:59:53 Ellis and I was sitting around going get me out of here I never felt that way with that I'm just like this is what it is it is what it is right it's never I'm gonna say it's not uninteresting to watch even if it's not that strong you know what I'm saying I would probably throw in what am I looking at here I got one oh yeah the most recent Jurassic World trilogy 100% yeah I didn't like any of them I thought they were all terrible equally terrible and so I would say that's one of the worst trilogies I've ever seen, even though the last one made a billion dollars. I wouldn't, I'll tell you, I, if I didn't mind the first one. I hated the second two.
Starting point is 01:00:32 The two after them were terrible. But if the first, I would probably put it in there if I didn't mind the first one. I actually didn't mind it at all. Shea Markell, who says the two-hour lionist season two premiere is absolute insanity. TV is equally as good as the silver screen these days. I'm loving this show, such a wild ride. People love this show. Do you watch it?
Starting point is 01:00:51 Which show is the lioness, the one with Zoe Seldar, which is the, I got to catch up. That's something Lady Al-a-Lah wants to watch too. So we're maybe we'll take this week and catch up and then jump into season two. It's, I'm loving Tulsa King. Tulsa King is a pretty good season two? I haven't watched it again. A lot of fun, man. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:08 I got to see it. So Derek Johnson's is just putting some support. Thank you, Derek, Derek. Nice to see you again, my friend. Don't let, don't let anyone, Derek, send in all the support. Screw those two other guys. Send in all the support you want for me, man. love you thank you um my he didn't he didn't he wasn't he wasn't there Mike Joyce why was
Starting point is 01:01:26 Hulk Hogan popular it's hard to see why lately well he wasn't he's not he's not wrestling right now he's he was he was 80s he mean you you watch that Vince documentary you find out pretty damn fast now you again so you can say whatever you want about what he's doing over the last 10 15 years separate conversation here we're talking about as wrestling Hulk Hogan is the reason why people have their jobs today Hulk Hogan. We don't have a professional as a local. No.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Hulk Hogan kept the doors open for wrestling because there was no larger, this is the time, that era was the time of superheroes. And the fact that I think you told me this and then I saw them talking about they were going to, he was considering Dusty Rhodes at one point. Dusty was big, you know, but, and he had big personality. He couldn't, he couldn't have done what Hogan did. No way. And, yeah, Hogan was for that time.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And people liked to shit on his in ring stuff and all that, but he was an amazing. amazing performer and he carried the business for years, held on too long, but he held it for years. So there was absolutely a reason why he was popular. And I was a Hogan guy too back in the day for sure. Big time. I mean, I don't, you know, I throw away all my stuff recently. But like at that time, man, there was no bigger Hulkomaniac in the world. I mean, I remember when he lost Ultimate Warrior at WrestleMania 6, I was like 15, 16 in there.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I wanted to get into professional wrestling to avenge Hulkcoat. That's how messed up I was. in my head and the approach to it because i really bought into everything yes i knew and at some levels fake but i it was at the beginning when and i'm a teenager i'm a kid so i don't know how much of this is real and not real and i loved it and i wanted to and i was a big holka maniac fan and you're right no one else could shan wouldn't have been able to do it roddy wouldn't have been able to do it not this is not like this thing well well if the machine had gotten behind him no hulk hogan and the machine at the same time it just was a coming together that was meant to be
Starting point is 01:03:18 and that's why it exploded as big as he did. No one else, not Randy, nobody else would have done. Randy's my favorite of all time, but he wouldn't be able to do it. Not even Flair would have been able to do what Hogan did in the WW system with Vince at the time. Mike Joyce, Sophia with that crowbar reminds me of the Joker, Jason. Yes, she is just pulling out a performance that is just next level stuff. This is going to elevate her career to the next level for sure. and all of them. I think hers, Renzi Felice, and obviously Colin Farrell, already doing stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:52 But like, I talked to Renzi about, I definitely talked to him about Sophia. And I said, it was one of the last things I talked to him about. And I was like, well, let's talk a little bit about her. He said, look, when she was cast, I had seen her in Palm Springs and I'd seen her in these things. And I really liked her. But it was like, oh, interesting. Because he'd read the script. And he's like, I wonder how she's going to do this. And he's like one table where you was like, oh, my God. He was just like blown away like everybody else was. So no surprise. And I thought Deidre O'Connell, who played Penguins' Bob, and it was so good, too.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Incredible, too. So, yeah. Really good. Darth Vader's burnt asshole. Random hot take. Cinematic universes like the MCU should end and just go back to making stand-alone character films. Cinematic universes were successful when they were not, or in a novel.
Starting point is 01:04:37 This, these films will never be as big as they once were. Now, I don't, this, you can't say they'll never be. as big as they once were. You can't say that because you are not immortal. You know what I mean? It could be, it could come back around in a hundred years from now. You don't know. The cinematic universe, I think for people that want to give it a rest. And I think that's why DC is doing what they're doing where they have the else world stuff and the other things that they can do. But the television model and the streaming model and all that has also added to the cinematic universe need. So I don't think it's going away anytime soon. And I don't necessarily agree with it because
Starting point is 01:05:18 when it's done well, I'm in. I'm not in right now because I don't care about the story they're telling. Yeah. Yeah. I'll agree with that. You got to do it right. Like with anything in film and television, you've got to do it right. And so it's about execution. Yeah, you've got to get better people. You've got to find the right people. And it's not always easy to do. But the intention there is to kind of lock in a fan base so you can at least have some kind of money to depend on as a foundation going forward to create the things that you're creating but yeah i mean i see the point but it's not going to stop anytime soon people have a taste for it if you make it work well and so unfortunately yeah and you can't and tell me come come back and visit me with these comments
Starting point is 01:06:00 if the new avengers movies come out and they make two and a half to three billion dollars then at that point you're like well i guess they were as big as they were before even bigger. So it's very possible. Very possible. Okay. Next one here from Mad, Sinistern McCall. Hey.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Beth. We live in time movie. Venom was kicked off the set for biting extras heads off. Also, Andrew whispered in Pugh's ear after the love scene. Roker's given all the reports of everything that went down.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Day Knapper. Happy birthday, Julia Roberts. That's right. And if I'm going to tell you that I knew that, I'd be lying. about. But now that you say that, it makes sense. What's your ideal birthday cake? For me, it's carrot cake. I love carrot cake. You know what? I never, and I never did until my wife makes a damn good carrot cake. And she used to make, yeah, because my father-in-law loves it. And so she used to
Starting point is 01:06:55 make it for him, for his birthday and for things. And I was like, whoa, that's what I want, too. I like, I like carrot cake. I like cheesecake. But I used to, as a kid, who was a big ice cream cake fan but now but I'm not a big cake person but that's that's what I'll go for is carrot cake too it's funny that you say that what about you Joe yeah I like I like cherry pie no I'm joking I like the cheesecake that's my jam the lady outlaw made made that my butter be canned cheesecake from scratch for my birthday which I'm still eating and it's incredible so yeah cheesecake is my number one favorite I care cake I like carrot cake too I like the
Starting point is 01:07:36 German chocolate cake as well. So those are kind of my cakes that I default to enjoy. That's what I would say. It's pretty good. Matt Sinister McAle. Please don't cast Thanos for Boogie Nights too. If you do that, that would be, I mean, that's that poor Heather Graham.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Derek Johnson, thank you, Derek. And then, thank you, Derek. Cinema fan 324. How many ways can art the clown use a box cutter? It's not pretty and bloods gore spiders everywhere. You're talking to somebody, you speak in German right now because I've never seen those movies and I probably never will. And it's nothing against the movies. Just not for me.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I'm not, I don't, from what I heard, especially from that scene that Roxy described to me, it's not something I ever want to see. Yeah. You? No, I've never seen those movies. Okay. Calumphadian, have either of you seen peeky blinders? I live in Birmingham and I saw them shooting for the film on my way to work last week. Keep up the great work.
Starting point is 01:08:34 I feel like this is a show you love. I love Pecky Blinders. Yeah. Peaky fucking Blood is. And I was heartbroken that Stephen Knight left the Ray movie because I love his writing on Pecky Blinder's. And so it's a shame that he's off of that. But yeah, Peakey is one of my favorite.
Starting point is 01:08:50 You want to see Killian Murphy do great work. Watch Peeky Blinders. There's so many great British actors who roll through there and stuff that in actors you're seeing now in these superhero films or these big franchise films. they've got small parts there in peeky blinders so yeah that's a show that i'm glad the film is shooting finally and we'll go from there um yeah you know it's a movie i definitely want to check out for sure i mean a show i want to check out we didn't really talk about the stephen night thing it happened during the week john so it was like it's it's back to what we said you know how do you
Starting point is 01:09:24 feel because she was on Josh Horowitz's show Daisy Ridley and she makes it seem like that movie is happening. I feel, did we talk about it? You and I last week? I don't remember if we did. It happened after Monday. Okay. So what I think is going to happen is that I don't think it's canceled. I think it could be, but I don't think
Starting point is 01:09:40 it's canceled. I don't think the director's going to stay on board. I think Sean Lee is going to wind up getting it. And I think that what will happen is that because I believe that the Mangled report is true, I believe that he's going to start going to production. I think 2026 summer you see Mandalorian Grogu. I think December you see Mangold's movie.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And then in the following year, I think you see the Ray movie hit in May with a new director. Yeah, I think that's all absolutely makes sense in my mind as well chronologically. I do think the film is going to happen. I don't know if it's Sean Levy who comes in because I have a feeling Daisy wants to tell a harder edge story. And I don't know that necessarily Sean is the right choice for that. And I think there's where that maybe there's some, and that's why you bring in someone like Stephen Knight. It ain't to tell some kind of universal four quadrant story.
Starting point is 01:10:29 It's to tell a darker story. And I wonder if maybe her husband now might be in the mix to write because he wrote the recent magpie film that she's out promoting. And maybe there's a sense that Daisy wants a little bit more control over this project than she had last time. Kathleen Kennedy certainly wants Daisy to be happy. She wants a Ray-led film to be released theatrically. And so I think that's where we might be headed. Don't be surprised if Tom Baton gets announced as the writer for the film because he's getting a lot of raves for what he did for Magpie.
Starting point is 01:11:00 So I wonder if that's the avenue. And yeah, aren't you surprised at how happy she is talking about, how smiley she is talking about it? That's Stephen's gone. Yeah. It's like, well, why are you excited? Because I think that this is what it was. You know, it's very possible what they were, oh, and what they do all the time.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Yeah, which is, I think, and now an M.O. for Lucasfilm, hey, we'll have so-and-so write the first draft, and then so-and-so will come in. You know, Stephen Knight, we like what he's done there. Okay, he's going to walk away. That's fine. He's done everything he's needed to do,
Starting point is 01:11:34 but he's really, he's not going to stay on anymore. Do we have enough from him? Larry, let him go. So they look at writers, and he probably, and so she, to her, she's like, okay, we have a script, we have the things that we like, she gave her notes on it.
Starting point is 01:11:44 What does she care? You know, it's in, and I think that it's going to probably hurt the thing, but we'll see. Speaking of Star Wars, oh, and this is from Jean-Philippe Goren. Hello to you both. Hello, Jean-Pelphi.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Why don't studios like Lucasfilm, well, Lucasfilm is a production company, but I know what you're saying, as far as the production companies within the studios, make sure that they have a good script and a director attached before making announcements. It's true. It's very hard being a Star Wars fan right now.
Starting point is 01:12:16 It is. It's like being a part of the... Look, it's like, even though they're in World Series, it's like being a Yankee fan right now. It's like being an Aaron Judge fan right. It's like being an Aaron Boone fan right now. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I mean, like you look at, this actually is a great comparison to where you have, you've got this. I mean, you got Cole pitching. It's great.
Starting point is 01:12:36 And you take them out. Why? Well, because we want to give somebody else a chance now. We're going to do this. A guy who's pitched in months. Why? And these decisions that are made,
Starting point is 01:12:47 you're like, well, you have all. this other talent. What are you doing this? It's the same thing Lucasfilm is doing. It's like in the same way that well Marvel, Marvel announces a big thing. This is what we have to do. They have a plan. There's no plan. So the answer, why don't they make sure they have a good script and a director attached? Because they're making stupid decisions. And they've, you know, it is, I say it again. I say it every single time. This, and I always preface it with this, not the animation,
Starting point is 01:13:15 not the video games, not the books, not those people. They're doing. they're doing good jobs. Keep everybody there. Get rid of the film and TV people. Not just Kathleen, all of them, put Filoni back in animation, get them all out of there. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. And that's what we're looking at here that they need to do. And that's the most important thing, is like resetting the table to go forward. And look, what he's proposing, Jean-Philippe is, yes, in a perfect world, you'd want to do it that way, but you know these studios are about creating hype. But I also think, Christian, the reason they can keep getting away with this is there's no consequences. That's right. That's exactly right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:13:54 You announce whatever you want. Change directors, change writers, changed stars, change the direction, move them around release dates. And there's no consequences. So why shouldn't, why would you stop doing what you're doing if you actually don't have any consequences of what you're doing? Well, I said this the other day, John. I said this is no longer on Kathleen Kennedy. It's no longer. You can say this is Bob Iger's fault.
Starting point is 01:14:15 He's letting this go on for as long as he can. can. Hey, I'm paying $4.1 billion for it. Can I have a movie? In 2019. Okay, we got, okay, we've made money. Can I have one in 2020? No. Can I have one in 2021? No. How about 2022? Yeah, yeah. Oh, wait, no. We pushed it back. How about 2023? Yeah, no, we pushed it back. Another one? 24. No, we're probably not going to give me one until like mid-20206. Oh, that's cool. And we're going to lose so many different directors and writers and people are kind of laughing at our product now and we used to be the one tier over Marvel and DC. We're like really low bottom now. Is that okay? Yeah, it's fine. Go ahead. What else you got? It's stupid. It's like Bob Iger
Starting point is 01:14:57 is to blame. He's like a dad who just lets his daughter or son run wild. And it's, it doesn't, you know, without really realizing the effect it's overall doing to the, to the name, to the brand of the name. So yeah. Hey, Kathleen just threw a shit on the wall. That's all right. I don't do it. But it's cute shit. It's cute shit. She's doing a good job. Go Paul, Sam DeHaron. Support for a fellow football team fan. I'm born and raised in Nova.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Whereabouts in VA is Roca from? Northern Virginia. Dale City, Woodbridge area is where I grew up. It was where we moved to in 1979. And then we were in Arlington, Alexandria before that. But yeah, that's where I grew up majority of my life. My mom and my brother and my sister. Oh, my brother and my mom are still around that area.
Starting point is 01:15:41 So yeah, around the DMV. Been there since 79, bro. Awesome. Shea Markell. I don't agree with Thanos, but I get why he believed he had to get rid of the living instead of a double resources. The living had a lesson to learn.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I think it's a better way to put it. Even Steve Rogers says, you know, I haven't seen the dolphins or whatever in the bay swimming so happily, you know, without pollution. So come on. You got 51 so far, John.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Good start for the week. 51. Not bad. Shea Markell. The living will only learn a lesson if memorable. if someone just magically solves our problems without us having to feel the weight of what we're doing, then we don't learn anything.
Starting point is 01:16:21 She's spitting some knowledge here today. Well, what? You want to be ready to go? Yeah, please. The living will only learn the lesson if it is memorable. If someone just magically solves our problems without us having to feel the weight of what we're doing, then we don't learn anything.
Starting point is 01:16:38 So just by snapping your fingers and making it go away, lessons not learned. See what I'm saying? The living said this? The Living said this? Who said this? Go to bed. Who said, no, wait, who sent the comment?
Starting point is 01:16:48 I just wanted who sent the comment. Shea. Shea. You're 100% wrong, Shea Markell. Because what's the best way to learn it? Losing a family member. Losing a friend, losing a loved one, right? Randomly, out of nowhere, because of what happened, you're not going to forget that lesson, are you?
Starting point is 01:17:03 You're not going to bet that lesson ever again. And so I think your point is mistaken. You should have been one of Thanos's generals. Uh, Isabel. London calling. Just posting this for you on behalf of my dad. Thank you, Isabel. Uh, Carl, he is in Majorca, Spain.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Oh, that's awesome. He is raising the glass to both you for a great show. He's great. And, hey, that's amazing. I want to go to Spain. Majorca. La Jorca. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Majorca. Lange. That's the word. I don't, I read. I don't, I don't pronounce. Uh, Shea Markell. Unfortunately, Thanos knew the living respects. And who's going to take up JTE's slack now that he's gone?
Starting point is 01:17:40 Shea Markel. unfortunately Thanos knew the living respects things that they earned through blood, sweat, and tears, more than the things they are just granted for free. He's really going in on it. Grant anybody, anything, he killed people's loved ones. Nothing was granted. What is wrong with you, Shea? Mike Joyce, who's a player on your favorite team that was incredibly overhyped in their rookie season but failed to live up to expectations? Caleb willem is for me.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Ryan Leif. He's all my Ryan. He's on my favorite team, though, but still. Mike, you're coming for Caleb? Yeah. What's wrong with you, Mike? He is playing well. We just had a better defensive setup against him yesterday,
Starting point is 01:18:15 but he almost led your team to victory if it wasn't for a fluke Hail Mary. I'll tell you who. I'll tell you who. He started off really, really hot, and then he just went away. There were two, actually. Two. Kevin Moss. Kevin Moss.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Kevin Moss hit, no, I thought he was the next Babe Ruth. And then he just disappeared like a fart in a car. I guess he stayed around. What's going on my glasses? And then the other one was, was, what's his, on the Knicks, Jeremy Lynn. Oh, Lynn sanity. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:47 That stuck you around for, you're like, oh, it was like so hyped going, wait a minute, it was such a cool story. I mean, it still is a cool story, but it was such a cool story where you thought, here's like Tom Brady. Tom Brady, Tom Brady, came, he was like, not even barely drafted and becomes one of the best quarterbacks of all time, if not the best, right? And that's what I was hoping Jeremy Lynn was going to be. I was like, out of nowhere, here's this bench guy whose lights out.
Starting point is 01:19:15 And then he just kind of, you know, faded out. He had a good, you had a good, what, season or two. Carmelo put the kibosh on. Oh, no, yeah, it's true. I don't know. I mean, there were so many terrible picks. Kwame Brown for the Wizards. That was probably the biggest one.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Everyone thought Kwame was going to come in and destroy the league. And he was, Michael Jordan rode that guy into the ground, and he left the league within two to three years. years man yeah that was a sad situation for sure all right next one yeah that would be as i'm going down the line here that's binson this a lot of wish the venom movies had a tone of upgrade i was to me and i was hoping that was going to be very different but it didn't uh it's the same same form yeah that would have been fun by the way lee winel uh wolfman coming out soon oh yeah trailer fantastic so yeah
Starting point is 01:20:09 Shay Markell coming back in Venom may have spotty reviews I granted a two out of five which is fair but at least it's open at least in its opening weekend Venom crushed Madame Webb's entire global box office and made his production back in a single weekend that was kind of my point
Starting point is 01:20:25 was that you know if I'm sewing him and I'm going to fleece it wasn't that you know so yeah I mean that's it's it's it is it's not it's not what you should be striving for yeah it's not what you should be striving for Derek Johnson. A lot of my wrestling heroes have broken my heart recently. I got to say
Starting point is 01:20:41 watching that Vince Doc then researching the civil complaint and federal suit. It's insane. Is Vince going to go to jail for a long time? I don't think you will. I think he's got too much money. And I hate that that's how it works. And he's he's got, let's just say he's got friends in high places.
Starting point is 01:20:58 He's got friends in high places. That's the frustrating part of it all. Billionaires get away with it because our country is not set up to freeze their assets have to force them to pay the price for the things that they do and they're able to run wild. And too many of them run wild in our society. And it's frustrating. And Vince the same way.
Starting point is 01:21:14 The reason he came back was to save his butt to sell the company and make $2 billion. So in essence is insulated from any consequences. And if they ever indict him on anything, watch Vince become like Harvey Weinstein or Shug Night, all these people all of a sudden have these physical affliction. Well, he did that. He said he said he didn't do it. even when he was in the storage, the thing around his neck. Yeah, yeah, that whole time.
Starting point is 01:21:39 Armada. Hardy better stop fooling around and make that season two of Taboo. Where's that? You know, I never watched that show. Was it any good? I love Tabu. Yeah, it's a really challenging show to watch. I mean, the central premise is he's in love with his sister.
Starting point is 01:21:53 So it's a weird little thing. It's an interesting little show, but it was very well done, very well acted. But yeah, I would love to see a season two, but good luck. Shane Markell, got to say, I love the major Tom sequence. That part was cute with the family. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Everything was great from the movie. Reese is the only reason to see it, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:22:13 This is, I believe, John with a fake account who says, he says his name is Christian Madard, says Thanos and Kilmonger were right. I mean, Kilmonger was certainly right in a lot of ways, not maybe the way he went about it at the end, but his complaints were legitimate. Tachaca, he pulled a terrible move, and Tachala in a way was continuing that legacy of ignoring other members of the black race in other countries.
Starting point is 01:22:42 And so I thought it was a legitimate complaint. And I think a lot of people thought Kilmonger had good reasonings for what he was doing. But the way he did it was not the best, which makes an interesting villain. Yeah. So I agree with that. I thought he was so funny because Marvel had had this string of just bad villains after bad villains. And I remember going, he finally, I was like, he took the title. He's the best villain.
Starting point is 01:23:00 And then a month later, Thanos came out. Derek Johnson, did you see the story? Spider-Man noir set photos. Why even make this movie? Is Sony hoping Disney will just pay a huge amount just to save the Marvel and Spider-Man brand? Regular audiences associate these crap Sony movies with Marvel. I'm holding hope for this movie, only because I really loved him.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I know he was animated, but I really loved him in that movie. We don't pick the ball. We just dance. It's one of the best lines ever. And I'd love to see what he's going to do. And I want to see if it's going to be unique and how they're going to do it. it. So I'm not going to cash in and say that it stinks now and that it's crap. I'm hoping it's going to be good. Well, it's a series, right? So it's not going to be a movie. It's a series.
Starting point is 01:23:44 Eric, right, right, correct you on that one. But yeah, I hope it's going to be good as well. And apparently this is what led to Lord Miller breaking their contract with Sony. Hope the series is worth it in the end. Why did they break it? They broke because they didn't like it. The rumors are that Sony was pushing back on the budget on the, oh, and that that pissed off. off Lord Miller. I just think Lord Miller realized they didn't want to be on the live action side of things because their animation stuff is great, but live action is a whole other ballgame.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Alexander J. Tatter, but they've done live action before the 21 Jones Street and Sony. Personia. And the Spider-Man. I see what you're saying. I see you're saying. Alexander J. Tattersall, it's unfortunate that there is this need to hold on to what has happened in the
Starting point is 01:24:28 past movies. Idolize them a bit just because that is what is done with every movie that makes a lot of money. Yeah, they're trying to, they're trying, I think John said it, right. It was a great analogy with the band. You know, like that just, hey, here's our new stuff. No one likes the new stuff. Play the old stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:42 And that's what they're doing. Yeah. I agree. Alexander follows that up with, in the comic books, Thanos dies and he comes back over and over. Lots of characters do. Yes, that isn't realistic. And it could spoil things if the comeback doesn't make sense
Starting point is 01:24:57 and is handled poorly. But that is the part of the comic book world. These aren't just another blockbuster or classic films like Godfather. They have to be treated and viewed with a different mindset. I don't disagree with that. I don't disagree with that, though. I mean, I see you shaking your head,
Starting point is 01:25:11 but I don't disagree with what he's saying. And I actually agree with him that it's got to be executed the right way. I mean, that's like anything. It just needs to be executed the right way. And you and I could easily say, hey, remember when we talked about this, Thanos, we were skeptical about it,
Starting point is 01:25:26 but man, did they make that work? Comic books are not movies, okay? They're not. It's not the same medium. Stop trying to say, well, it happens in the complex as way. It should happen in the movies this way. That's not how it works. There's a two different mediums. That's not how it works. Yeah, the expectations for each of the medium are different. The audience you're appealing to is different. Yes, are there crossovers? Sure, of course, but you can't put the same constructs or else no one ever dies in the comics. And then when you go
Starting point is 01:25:59 see a movie, you're like, what do I care? No one ever dies. They're going to come back. That's not how people get invested in movies. It's a, there are two different mediums and I wish people would make that delineation in their minds. Comic books are something completely different than live action. Why do you think there's such a thing of like, well, what's, what's canon? What's canon? No one would care in the comic books world because everything is up in the air and everything can fit and be moved around and reasoned. That doesn't exist in the in the theatrical side of things. So it's two different mediums. That's all I'll say. Yeah. I have the reasoning, but it doesn't, It doesn't hold water in my mind.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Fair enough. Dennis Hoffman. Not surprised that Stephen Knight is off the Ray movie. Didn't the same thing happen on episode 7 with Michael Arndt? Yes. Before JJ Kasden made it up on the fly. I can't wait to read Making of Sequel Trilogy one day. Yeah, we'll see if that actually happens. I think that'll probably come out after, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:51 Lucasfilm either has a new regime, whenever that is. I saw our friend and fellow Yankee fan, Johnny, the whole we talked about bringing Kasden to write. the Ray movie no what are you talking about why no i love you john no lawrence casden no he's so far removed from star wars not even jonathan casin no cat should write no it's so far removed from from star wars in general it's like and i and i look i love john but i love john there are people that are holding on to that hope that the things will go you know that love that it was always there it it ain't that time anymore there's yeah it i'm telling you this thing it's like he is a yankee van he knows he
Starting point is 01:27:31 You should, and I'm John's asking to be on a show a couple of times. I got to go on. I'd love to have that debate with them because it's like, there is a time when you've got to look at your team and going, when is enough enough? And this is, as you look at, what's his name? Iger is the Steinbrenner's. And he's the Steinbrenner.
Starting point is 01:27:51 And it's like, you need a new coach. You need a new coach. And, you know, but, you know, look, I'm not saying get rid of Boone yet. we'll see what we'll see what happens with this with this world see they get swept i don't know oh my god i don't know they get swept i don't know but that first you had that game one you had game one done wrapped up good to go leave colon games over so you know and that's the same thing the kathleen can you can't give the dodgers life now they have that fernando passing even more motivation that you can't yeah you should stepped on the net game one could have even one game
Starting point is 01:28:31 two with that bases loaded a situation in the night didn't get it done no yeah erring jo's gonna have a lot of questions yeah he doesn't come through so many into poor guys i look i love erin judge i love sure he's he's he's non-existent in these playoffs and there's there's the one that's so great it might be my favorite one if i sold these instagram meals and the one that i've seen it kills me it's like the the starship troopers one and it's like i'm doing my part and you see Soto. I'm doing my part, Stanton. And then there's the one guy, I'm not doing fucking shit. It's judge. Poor guy. Alexander J. Tatterstall. There are different rules for these fantasy comic books stories. I know producers have to think about getting all seats filled and not
Starting point is 01:29:12 just think about the comic fans. Yeah, that's really what it is and really what it is. To which Alexander keeps, he's got a couple here. But I wish that they would just realize who these are four and really commit to the comic book way of telling stories. Every time they do it, it is worth it. Avengers 1, Civil War, end game, Deadpool and Wolverine, even this act of the show, it's very comic booky, the transitions, the writing, always a good time listening. I see what he's saying, though. He's saying, like, you know, you can still traditionalize it to make it story-wise and make it film-wise, but still be true to the comics, because Deadpool Wolverine had tons of true comic book stuff in it, for sure. And I think you can do
Starting point is 01:29:49 this stuff, and that's the stuff I always hate about video game adaptations when they go so far away from the actual source material. And I don't know. I agree with what he just said there. I think you're going to have comic book elements, of course, 100%, but you have to tell more resonant stories. And I think that's where things are getting connected. Like what you're seeing with Aged all along,
Starting point is 01:30:08 people were kind of bashing the show the first few weeks because they hadn't quite connected the storylines overall so that people felt the humanity of these characters for lack of a better term. And then you saw it in the last episode, for real, all of it really come together. and now people like super invest in it and that's the difference there so not that there isn't deep resident stuff being told in comic side of thing but there's a way to tell it while mixing in the
Starting point is 01:30:32 combook element so i think we're on the same page just in a different way uh christian madar the penguin is getting me so excited for the batman too oz's speech got me so excited is the penguin the best superhero tv show well i wouldn't call him a superhero i would if you're asking is it the best comic book show i say it's in the conversation I'd say it's in the conversation. I have to, if I put it over the boys, do you put it over invincible? That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:31:00 You have to put it in, it's because I never, it's always hard for me to say when someone goes, what do you think's better? Season one of this show that just started or the four seasons of something else, even though, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:31:11 Like, even though a show has had a bad season here or there, it's because what if season one of Penguin is great? They're only going to do, maybe two. When I asked Renzi Feliz, He says it's limited. He doesn't even know if they're going to do a second. So let's say that they do four seasons of it,
Starting point is 01:31:27 and seasons two, three, and four stink. And then you can't call it that. So it's very hard to say that. Are you going to put it over a Legion? Or are you going to put it over Batman the animated series or Daredevil? Hard to say. It's tough. That's why I say it's in the conversation.
Starting point is 01:31:41 It's in the conversation for sure. Yeah. It's pretty damn great. I mean, I don't, I will say this. I don't know if there's a show that I've looked forward to watching in the comic book world as much as I've wanted to watch this one. I get that same kind of feeling
Starting point is 01:31:57 I did about the Sopranos and Breaking Bad and noticing it like, when Game of Thrones, when this show is on, I get to watch it. Even when I'm reacting to it, it doesn't really, it doesn't feel like work.
Starting point is 01:32:06 It's like I'm just watching the show because I'm excited to watch the show. I agree. I recorded my reaction last night. I was like, I had to catch myself that I was just admiring the show. You forget, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Acting to what I was, yeah, against yourself. Yeah. So, So, Shea Markell. Hey, John, with you being a vet, you're going to enjoy the lioness scenes where military personnel gets their aschute. I miss all the mutual suffering.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Respect, Shea. I appreciate that. I can't wait to see that. The mutual suffering is so true. Josh Needle. If the Thanos rumor is true, then between this and Robert and Jr. coming back, the next two Avengers movies are sounding like desperate, Hail Marys. I hope I'm wrong. I mean, you can see where you can say that, but it just turns out to, again, like, how is it going to play?
Starting point is 01:32:49 at the end. But to be fair, to be fair, the comic book, Secret World, has all of these characters. It's got everybody. It's like it's a multiverse thing and you want it. It makes sense in the same way that I always argued against people that said, why you need to bring Luke Skywalker into the Mandalorian, you're desperate. It's like, no, because he's the only Jedi that really would be around to hear that. It makes sense. So if it makes sense to have them all back, in the And it makes sense, then it could work. But desperation is a real thing. If it just like, well, that's kind of lame.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Well, as someone who recently experienced the joy of a Hail Mary yesterday, let me just say, you can call them Hail Mary's. But when you complete a Hail Mary to win the game, people lose their minds. So if they do complete these Hail Marys, you're going to be one of the first people jumping up and out, whooping it in the theater. You build a career. You flutie it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. peddress which 80s movie deserves a modern-day reboot i always answer the same thing and i always say
Starting point is 01:33:53 sluggers wife every time every time it needs a reboot it was i i always think movies should that be remade that were had good premises but were bad movies not the opposite what about how the duck how would that would be good how would that would be going but you got to give lea thompson a cameo of course 100 percent you're at 63 so far john good start on monday uh top dog great It's kind of crazy. We got three Venom movies and even crazier that all three of them suck ass. Give me a hard R version of Venom one day, please, thoughts. I think as much as I love Tom Hardy, and I would, and going back to the other comment before,
Starting point is 01:34:32 I want to see him different things outside of this realm. I don't want to see him as Venom anymore in the Spider-Man world, even with Tom Hardy. I want them to do it. Is he going to do Venom? Like he's saying, do it differently. I understand, and it worked for what you're doing with the comedic spin-90s style, but let's get a serious let's get a serious version of them now yeah I may have heard yeah that some mix in that direction oh yeah yeah yeah okay we'll see all right
Starting point is 01:34:58 uh bam 86 they need to do a remake of they live I I could see it I could see it I could see them doing that I I'm not telling no not for me I have a person I have a personal relationship with that but like but I can see where they would make a remake a remake on that because that movie's like an hour and 25 minutes it's really short you could really expand on it especially all the shit that's going on with you know uap's and all that kind of stuff too dude you could you could do something you could do something um the question is whether or not they they at least a sequel a sequel something for sure you could do yeah you could do a sequel like you know
Starting point is 01:35:38 in the world it just you know because Keith David is still is i believe Keith David is still with us he hasn't passed yeah he's still with us. where he's the son of Roddy Piper or the grandson of Roddy Piper? Well, no, because if you mean, spoiler for they live, it looks like he doesn't make it out of the last move. Oh, well, maybe he has made it. Unless he made it. Yeah, that's true too.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Patty Boy, Marvel needs to ride the Deadpool and Wolverine Wave. I don't agree with it, but I think they're going to. Yeah. That was a one-off, man. We built to that. It was Hugh coming back. Like, that was such an, again, that's a, anomaly of a film if you're trying to repeat it you're going to end up like venom where they
Starting point is 01:36:21 kept trying to capture the magic of the first movie that was all timing for whatever reason the factors worked and they can't recapture it if you keep going down the deadpool wolvering thing you're going to sink you're going to sink before you swim there's no way it's so coming in here i'm not sure what it means okay actors don't get to decide who their characters are unless they own the company that is that is that is not even remotely close to truth that One fellow Bruce Willis that he didn't have any input on John Clay. No, that doesn't mean that that is no, not at all. What it, what is true is certain power level of actors.
Starting point is 01:36:57 Yes. Either yes. You come in, you just get the role and by, you just happen to get the role. You know, you can, you can make suggestions and say, hey, my character might do the. Renzi Felice, by the way, is a newer actor. And he told me he had many suggestions on his character and many things to where they were Like, it all depends on who you're working with. There's some people that are going to go, shut up, kid, read the script, shut your ass.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Then there's other people who are going to go, oh, I never really thought about that before. That's great. Let's make the character like that. But not owning the company, I don't, I don't know. Maybe I met, maybe I read that wrong. Actors don't get. Yeah, because I think he's referencing what I said about Daisy, how Daisy has more input than she's ever had before on the character. She's probably a producer.
Starting point is 01:37:38 She's probably a producer on the movie. Yeah, she said that in her. Yeah, that is, that is absolutely incorrect. Um, Armada, do you think Overlord, Overlord 2 could ever happen? I really like that movie. That's a good movie. It's a really good movie, underrated movie. I don't think it made money at the box office, so I think it'd be tough to convince him for a sequel.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Really? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe a streaming sequel? I don't know. I would love to see it, though. Armada is Richard's favorite cake cherry pie. Or sometimes I like peach pie. Like to throw it up in the air and say, oh, it was a sweet peach. Only when I'm watching Mrs. Garrett.
Starting point is 01:38:13 reruns. Oh, no. That's right. Support. Thank you, Derek. Armada, who says, with Holland's schedule being busy, hopefully Sony can silently cancel Uncharted 2. That would be great. And then we can get an HBO series adaptation of the game. I would love to see that. I would love to see. It always should have been a TV show, Uncharted, always. But they're going to make it. Sony will absolutely make it because the first one made money. and they have Tom Holland to do it. Especially, yeah, it's, it's, that movie, I didn't, it's not an uncharted movie,
Starting point is 01:38:50 but it's also not the worst. If you're like an uncharted, like, purist, you're going to hate it. And I really love those games, but I separated it going, this is just not, this is not the movie. It's a fun movie, but it's not, it's not an uncharted movie. Yeah. I agree. Yeah, it's fun.
Starting point is 01:39:08 It's fine for, I never played the game. Oh, yeah, it was a five movie to watch. so I didn't come in with all my expectations. And even I knew it's not that great of a movie. It's fun, but it's not that great of a movie. Yeah. Okay. Josh Needle, could it be possible that when George Lucas signed the company away,
Starting point is 01:39:23 he had it in his contract that Kathleen can't be removed without his approval? Nah. Nah. He can't be a really stupid deal for whoever's making that. So you can have her on there no matter what. And until he says she's time to give him too much power. you're going to wait too much bro. He sold it was because
Starting point is 01:39:43 I think he sold it with the condition that Kathleen would be attached to Shepard it sure but not the condition that she couldn't be fired. No, you can't. Who the hell would agree to that? So-Sahmi. Over or under 70%
Starting point is 01:39:54 that James Gunn will play the Kryptonian song by three doors down in the Superman movie. I don't know enough about it. What would you say? I don't know. I think it would be, I think you'd see a not the original version.
Starting point is 01:40:09 And I think you'd see a remake of it if it appeared at all. Yeah. Derek Johnson, there's a deep discussion to be had if Thanos was right. I lean on the way that he was right. The huge loss is the lesson. It's a desperation that will make you change your behavior and how you view people, no matter race, wealth, or health. Derek Johnson coming in with the Roka support.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Well, because you know, look at what's happening now in our world, brother. No matter what you do, there are a lot of people who are like, you know what, I can see the logic. So there's no way that if Thanos did this, there wouldn't be like deep divisive, huge debates on national networks about whether Thanos was right or not. So, yeah. Justin Toner, as a Yankee fan, that game one loss felt my heart been ripped out of my chest. You and me both. Game three tonight is a must win to avoid a three-oh hole.
Starting point is 01:40:55 You can't lose. You can't. If you, I hate to say it, but it's over. If they lose a Yankee Stadium tonight, it's over. And I know, and even if they come back, I'll say, hey, it was wrong. but you know odds are i'm telling you i was like it's yeah it was bad uh and john that hell mary for washington to beat the bears was insane yep look at john it was very excited about that shay markell yes john my friend that exactly my point danos's actions are more memorable than
Starting point is 01:41:22 just solving the problem i love you guys thank you thank you sure um okay um okay um okay um okay um I hope Jeff Snyder reviews the carpenter. Is that the one? Is that the MMA one? Okay, okay. All right, Derek Johnson. My God, y'all, the evidence this time is crazy. I'm not a kinkshamer by no means,
Starting point is 01:41:43 but this is some diabolical evil shit he was doing. There's got to be some consequences. I've got to try and believe there's some justice coming. Some of my Vincent, man. Yeah, I mean, look, justice coming is a different thing than asking if he's going to get jail time. I think he's already... The thing is, though, and I think a lot of people have said this,
Starting point is 01:42:00 would you be surprised if him and Shane started their own wrestling business? Because I wouldn't. I would. You'd be surprised? I don't think Shane, no, I think Shane's going to go AEW if he goes anywhere. Now, there's rumors that Vince might try to buy AEW or might try to start his own federation. There is rumors of that.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Yeah. I think it's more likely that Vince would start his own federation. I don't think Shane wants to be a part of it anymore. Who goes there? Who would go there? Yeah, I don't know. there are a lot of Vince. Look at Undertaker. I know.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Prying at the end of the Vince documentary. But that was 2022. That was 22 when he, they didn't interview him after all the stuff went down. Well, he interviewed someone recently who was not that far away from Vince. So, I mean, there's very possible. There's very strong possibilities. There are a lot of older wrestlers and younger wrestlers who might be like as an FU to the
Starting point is 01:42:48 WWE would go join. Yeah. Vince. So who knows? Patty Boy should cast Charlie Frazier as the next Wonder Woman. I don't know Charlie Fraser Charlie Frazier Charlie I think
Starting point is 01:43:00 C-H-R-L-E-E-F-R-A-S-E-R-A-S-E-R-A-S-E-R-A-S-R-A-R-A-R-E I don't know Charlie Fraser I like the idea of Adria-R-Jona from She's great too And or has one put her in anything She's I'll watch Top dog rig
Starting point is 01:43:16 What are your honest expectations For Superman in the DCU as a whole As Superman isn't a smash hit Could you see the whole thing Fold on itself? Yes, I could because they're building everything around it. They're introducing lantern stuff in it.
Starting point is 01:43:30 And even if the lanterns TV show is incredible, it's a TV show. You got to have your first movie, and especially a Superman, that's going to be, that's your guy. Superman doesn't hit, at least make his money back. If it doesn't least make its money back, I know people are going to say like, oh, it only just broke even. That's not a big, breaking even won't kill it. It's not going to be exciting, but it won't kill it. If it bombs, kills it.
Starting point is 01:43:52 Man of Steel made money. Yeah. Man of people made money and people still wanted to kill it. It's because we were in a billion-dollar age and everybody. Yeah. It didn't make $800 million dollars. It thought it was a failure. I look, I'm in a weird place because I'm skeptical of it.
Starting point is 01:44:07 I hope it's great. I want it to be great. Do I think it'll make $750 billion to a billion? I think it's very, very possible because people love Superman. But there are a lot of people who don't find Superman an interesting hero. And Matt Nost, former co-host of the top 10, not a big Superman guy. So there are people who don't like Superman, won't go see the movie, don't think it's that great.
Starting point is 01:44:30 So we'll see, but I see people coming after me who are going like, why are you so negative about James? Why are you so skeptical, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, you haven't seen a frame of it. Yeah, but are you going after the people who think it's going to be the greatest thing ever, who also haven't seen a frame of it? Like, we have to have a healthy discourse of like skepticism and hope. I think there's nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 01:44:50 And so we'll see when we see the first trailer and when it all goes down if he's got the right tell. I agree. I'm excited for it. Joyous rumor. May the force be with you guys. Thank you, Joyce. I appreciate that. All right.
Starting point is 01:45:04 So now, Alexander J. Tatterstone. Totally. Same page, rocan. Have a good day. Thank you. Thank you. The new, happy-bladed birthday to the outlaw. My 54th birthday is today.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Hey, happy birthday. Happy birthday. It's a 35-year-old. I say happy birthday. Yeah, sure. Haskell 420. Hey guys, if Penguin nails the finale and Dune Prophecy, which starts a week later is also great, what a few months of epic TV we got? Let's go Yankees. Let's go Yankees for sure. Yeah, I mean, I'm, well, definitely for HBO, Max. I mean, they're going to be having a hell of a year, if that, if that's the case. I feel Penguin's going to stick the landing, and I'm crossing my fingers for June. You hearing anything about that, Dune? I mean, the new trailer was awesome. So I'm looking forward to it and it's got a great collection of actors. But it's not going to be the penguin.
Starting point is 01:45:57 I want to make it clear. Dunn is going to be a slow burn. So I hope people are ready for it. It isn't going to be all action every episode or it's going to be a slow burn. Penguin's a little bit of a slow burn. So I hope people get it. Yeah. This is going to be a slow burn.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Alexander J. Tattersall says there are so many stories for them to milk with Deadpool and Wolverine. and I don't believe they will just rinse and repeat. Ryan won't. Hugh won't. I mean, it just depends on what they're going to do. I'm just curious of where they're going to make that. Where's it going to land?
Starting point is 01:46:25 Where's it going to land? How do you know what Hugh and Ryan are going to do? You have no idea what Hugh and Ryan are going to do. I don't know. I know someone where it's going to land. It's like, does it land before the Avengers? Because if it lands after the Avengers, then it's, you know, then that means that Hugh Jackman is Wolverine again for in the MCU.
Starting point is 01:46:45 It's like it's weird. GoPy. GoPy. Sorry, people are ignoring the negative reviews of the film. Like, there were negative reviews of the film. There were people who rightfully pointed out the numerous plot holes in that movie. This is not a perfect film. Yes, it made money and entertained a lot of people, but there are a lot of holes in that movie and they got away with it, right?
Starting point is 01:47:06 Keep repeating that and it's going to sink. That's what I think overall, no matter what stories you're trying to tell. Go Pi, son, good, heart. Oh, what about a Howard the Duck remake starring Zoe Deutsch in her mom's role? That would be good. That would be good. She'd be great in that.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Yeah. She'd be great. And then you definitely have to have Leah come back. It's a me, Steve. What wrestler would you want to see as a biopic? You know, I always said, I still think they should do it. I'd still love to see events actual biopic. Like an actual biopic of what, of all the shit, like, you know, but him being nowhere
Starting point is 01:47:39 near involved. Like, that's what I'd like to see about all that stuff go down. I'd love to see a Randy Savage one, but it's just the problem is you run into somebody doing an impression the whole time. Rick Flair is someone I'd love to see for sure. I don't know. Yeah, Flair is probably the choice. Savage is the choice. Miss Elizabeth would be really interesting to see her point of view from Randy to Lex and then sadly passing. I mean, that could be an interesting approach you could look at.
Starting point is 01:48:10 I mean, a Dusty Rhodes biopic would be phenomenal. Yeah, those are interesting characters you could play around with. But look, I mean, the Von Erics, that's a legendary family, but you could argue that was it Kerry, who's the lead, he wasn't the most popular Von Erick. So they made it work because of the other Von Erick's and then his particular story. So there may be other wrestlers who are maybe lesser down the totem pole
Starting point is 01:48:34 who'd be interesting to see bio picks about because of what they experienced in the world of pro wrestling. Yeah, I would want to see how they were going to actually, because it's the same thing I just don't want it to be like fluff you know like where it's you don't actually have if people are actually involved with it that yeah you know then you they're going to be too protective so doesn't I don't know I'm I just depends on who they would get ultimate warrior would be interesting oh yeah but you know but then that's why that's why I wish like when they had the WWE network they use that stuff for like for like that you know like like
Starting point is 01:49:11 Like that's the stuff that I would have loved to see, like biopics like that stuff. Zach Mine talks movies. He says, is this the worst year for comic book movies? Thank God for Deadpool. Do you think it is the worst? I mean, worst ever? Are we ignoring some of the 90s years of comic book movies? I'd say, I'd say probably in the modern era is what he's talking about, right?
Starting point is 01:49:37 I mean the current era? Yeah, I'm saying since like, since it like took off you know i don't know i mean it's a good question i'd have to look through the years i couldn't say for sure yeah all right uh next one derrick johnson he says what's big ball's favorite pie what is big i'm not big balls how yeah baby i am come here come here come here Come here. Get a kiss. You a kiss.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Peach pie. Okay, peach pie is good. But, see, I don't, I don't, I don't sniff around. Well, I do sniff around the bush. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. You want to hear something, Rocca? You want to hear something for real.
Starting point is 01:50:20 You know, you know what I like for pie? What's that? Hey. Stop it. What do you put it on the nose like that? Stop. Can you be artistic a little bit, big balls? No.
Starting point is 01:50:31 Hey, here, look at this. Okay. What's the thing. Oh. You like it. That's enough. Relax it. Come, get over here.
Starting point is 01:50:40 I'll put myself right there. See? And just like that, I own Seattle. Oh, my God. He's gone. He's going to. I'm going to kill you. I love that he actually can show up now.
Starting point is 01:50:55 I love that you were dodging. If you were dodging, I can't imagine what Roxy's going to do. Joshua Weissman, big fan of John Krasinski and favorite director is Denis Villeneuve. Great, great choice. Could you see JK as a Jedi, Josh Krasinski, as a Sith or Jedi for a Danie Villeneuve directing a Star Wars film, All Republic? I don't want to say no outright, but it would be hard for me to separate him or take him serious than that rare, but that's not necessarily fair. I think that's, I think that's true. It'd be tough to see him in that role, but I mean, it all depends on what DeNi wants to.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I just don't think Krasinski is a Deni Villeneuve actor. Like, that's not his, that's not, yeah. Plus, I don't mean, Danie doing Star Wars will never happen. I am probably. Dancing Dogs, 60. Hey, guys, I think visually the metalman would make a stunning film. Shock James Gunn hasn't announced them. What say you, DCU?
Starting point is 01:51:52 I don't think I know enough about it. Do you know about the metalman? Yeah, I know metalman, is there a group? It would be interesting. Certainly James Gunn's the guy who could maybe bring it to life with what he did with Guardians and Suicide Squad and what it's going to do with the authority. So yeah, there's a possibility down there.
Starting point is 01:52:07 It would probably be a limited series. Might even be the animated series. But I don't know if he'd do a live action movie about Metalman, but it could be interesting. Patty Boy. Do you think Pedro Pascola and Vanessa Kirby are doing it? No. Isn't she marry?
Starting point is 01:52:21 She married. Pedro is. Pedro's married? Petros. Do you, do people not know this? I mean, Pedro is pretty much rumored to be gay. Is he? Yes.
Starting point is 01:52:31 Oh, I didn't know that. That's the rumor. Don't say I said it. I haven't heard any of it. Either way. But the answer is no. I don't believe that they are. Armada.
Starting point is 01:52:41 What would you want? Another Deadpool and Wolverine or another No Way Home? Another spider. Yeah, if you're going to continue another, I think there's more story. I don't want to see either one, to be honest. But there's more story to tell in the No Way Home stuff with Andrew Garfield and Toad McGuire than there is with Deadpool Wolverine. I agree with that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:01 We'll find out, I guess, in Spider-Man, four. Yeah. Alexander J. Tattersall. I think that it is hard for some people to see past the gimmick of a movie. The first one definitely has flaws. I'm just going off the clear joy that they have playing these characters. Well, that's true. They definitely have joy playing the characters. I think you're going to see Deadpool pop up in other Marvel movies where he's not the star or he's not the focus. I think that's very possible. And then maybe you build to another Deadpool or Wolverine adventure together for whatever reason. build up to but you can't just do another one i think you have to build up you know matt thomas what's up
Starting point is 01:53:38 man haven't seen a frame of soups but i've seen it shooting i'll be there in theater multiple times besides my critic screen cleveland's first son that's fair um i'm the question i always say about that because i do and i happen to be on the same page with matt that if it's good i'm going to see it more than once as well because i love superman yeah but it's i've been in that position where i think that oh i'm going to see this movie five times and i've been like i don't know i want to he didn't watch that Joker to Joker too I could have in that trailer I'm like oh man I'm gonna be back in here to see this movie a couple times I'm like I don't want to watch on digital I don't want to watch a trailer so it's like no but but that's not to say this is
Starting point is 01:54:17 gonna happen I understand what you're saying man like it's and especially being Cleveland but I'm hoping that I'm on the same page as Matt that we're both like yeah let's go see this a billion times yeah and Gene's gun wants that too yeah I want it to be good yeah um Francisco Lopez hey Hey, Roka, are the geek buddies going to do a live spoiler review for Agatha? And I want to see an Eddie Guerrero biopic. That's a good one, too. Eddie's a great choice.
Starting point is 01:54:46 Possibly. We're working on it. Maybe we'll do it Friday or Thursday, depending on the situation, but I'll let you know, follow me on social media. Derek Johnson, did big balls just drape his balls on Roka? Yeah. We're not doing that. You can swat him away next time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Derek Johnson, support. Thank you, Derek. And then we go to... How many are we are right now? I'm going to tell you in a moment. Okay. Jake Akiveta in the house. Jake!
Starting point is 01:55:18 So he says, I'm glad to see Big Balls, drape Broca. After all the times, he said he was going to run it across Garth's RIP forehead. Hello. The Great Garth. And then I never did it, though, did I? No.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Well, big balls is someone who needs to be arrested. You're at 95, my friend. You're almost 100. You're almost at 100. It's a big start. It's a big start. It's going to be hard for people to beat. Dancing Dog 60.
Starting point is 01:55:43 Solo, by the way. So suck it. It's all your duos coming up later on this week. Well, Roxy's all by herself tomorrow. Oh, good. Respect to Rock. We'll say. Guys, what's your favorite die-hard rip-off?
Starting point is 01:55:53 Mine is sudden death with Jean-Claude Van Dam. Clos is the Seagal in a ship film. Yours? Scal won on the ship film. Understage is great. mine's actually the first was it is not white house down is the one with with channing tatum but the no olympus is fallen limbus is fallen that was that's that that whole series is good man all all each one of those episodes each one of those installments are good installments yeah i like that series yeah um okay
Starting point is 01:56:19 so this is speed is another speed is a good one too yeah Alexander j tattersall with the last one of the day unless four more people get you to 100 um same page built to a story every time, just don't do it right away. Let them both be in some movies as NPC, that main character. Yeah. Yeah, because people forget they built up to the Deadpool Wolverine thing by having Deadpool mentioned Wolverine in the first movie with stapling her, his face on from the magazine. And then the second movie mentioning and doing even more. So they built to this Deadpool and Wolverine reunion in the, or get together in that movie. So you've got to build to it if you're going to do it again. Agreed. Yeah. I just wanted to say I'm sorry. I'm just saying I'm sorry. I want to say I'm sorry. Do you forgive me? Come on. I'm not going to do it. I just do me a feel like go right here. Just don't cancel me and don't tweet at me. Please. Okay. Don't worry. I'll stay right there. I don't want to make you feel uncomfortable. Bye bye.
Starting point is 01:57:21 Where are you wait no get out of it. What? I'm over here. All right. What do you think I was going to steal your snacks? Don't go a little lower. what's that noise in the background hey there you go the cops are coming to get them kai actually margot robbie turning down netflix's 150 million dollar offer for withering heights is just bad business no chance that movie makes more than 50 mil i didn't hear that i didn't hear that either is that true because that she was pretty much locked up to do it with um she's is it a lority or something like that she's also pregnant Or she's about to have her baby, or she just had her baby? Or, I mean, so, I mean, I mean, granted, they could wait, but she might, she might want to, she comes across to me as someone that would actually say, you know what, I'm taking some time off.
Starting point is 01:58:12 I'm going to spend some time on my kid. Oh. And I don't know if that's the case. Okay. I could be making that up. Well, it could be that she was fighting for a theatrical release. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. And then she back, that's, well, you know what's funny because you know that that, you know that that was going down potentially.
Starting point is 01:58:30 with Greta Gerwig and the Narnia films. Yeah, the Narnia stuff. And so that makes sense that they're tight. And she's like, okay, you know what? You don't want to do the actual? You don't do it? And it's going to start to bite Sarandas in the ass a little bit now. If these actors start getting together and say, hey, bail from these things now,
Starting point is 01:58:50 everybody start going for and starts to strong-arm Netflix. I can see that happening. So it happened because Margot Robbie essentially put Warner Brothers in, the in a rock between a rock and heart place and they gave in and it is going to be a theatrical release so she hasn't left the project she's a producer on the project so she won them over and it is going to be a theatrical release so there you yeah i want to make sure that i as i go through this um give me your thoughts real quick on gretta gowardway guys i'm just because someone said that i missed one of their their things oh great yeah yeah i think she opened the door to
Starting point is 01:59:24 leave this project this is something jeff has been saying on a hot mic for a long time he did not understand after the success of Barbie why she would go to do a Narnia adaptation it didn't make sense now I know there's a lot of you who enjoy the chronicles of Narnia's great books and all it's not saying like the quality of the arts but business wise brand wise it doesn't make sense to move on to the Narnia especially streaming on Netflix like it doesn't make sense so the fact that she is starting to raise issues or we hear her that she's starting to raise issues that's not getting a theatrical release to me this is the opening of her walking away from this project.
Starting point is 02:00:01 And because I think even she's realizing, okay, this wasn't the best step. Because she probably didn't think Barbie was going to make a billion dollars. And now that it has, you've got a whole other cachet in Hollywood for the projects that you can do. Going to Narnia on streaming doesn't seem to make sense
Starting point is 02:00:16 for what she wants to do as a director. So yeah, I think this is her opening the door to leaving. And I think that saw that as well. I just went through all your ones Armad. I saw the four that you went. We entered all them. Throw in, put it in the ring. chat of which one but I'm pretty sure we got all of yours and then we have we do have
Starting point is 02:00:33 three left here John hey you're getting you're getting some more so this is from Frankie C what if the MCU adapted the ultimate Ultron story from the what if animated series I would love if they did that but they're not going to do it I think that they would be a great cinematic experience I hate that they left it alone I hate that they left it alone and didn't they just didn't even do anything with it that was that was the best part of what if yeah I agree to you 100% seemed to odd But I think there is a season three coming, so maybe they'll circle back to it. Maybe.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Top dog. I watched Blue Beetle for the first time today, and I enjoyed it. Me too. Family dynamic was great, and I hope Shola Medveduena comes back in some way. Well, they said he was supposed to, and then he's supposed to come back in Marvel now, too. Yes. I mean, didn't they say that had Booster Gold, a blue beetle thing's going to happen with Camero and Johnny is booster gold, so we will see?
Starting point is 02:01:22 Yeah, we answered your thing about Snyder seeing the carpenter. We said, is that the one, because he says he's going to see it. And then I was like, that's the Jesus one. And you said, yeah, so you don't know if he's going to see it or not, right? Nobody messes with the Jesus. No, I have no idea. He's got, yeah. This is the last one.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Prisian actor who I thought was going to be huge was Dacre Montgomery from Stranger Things and Power Rangers Elvis. He seems like a real actor. He's, I've interviewed him twice. Yeah, I tell you, he left his entire team and now worked strictly on indie projects. So he was, you remember he did the Power Rangers Schmodel. Right. Oh, that's right, yes.
Starting point is 02:02:00 He did the power range. I also, he was also a big, I played ski ball against him at Fandango. He was really competitive. And we had a blast playing. I beat him and Justin Timberlake, which I'm very proud of. So I was on fire that year. I was on fire. I told you, like five in a row.
Starting point is 02:02:16 I was on fire. But he is very intense dude, very chill dude. But yeah, I think he's very talented. I'm surprised that he didn't do anything. Well, I mean, like you said, he's probably finding the projects they work for him you know and stranger things was massive and so that that launched him into something else so we'll see where he goes but i think it's good that an actor knows who they are and where they want to go yep and if it got i mean releasing your team as a
Starting point is 02:02:42 young actor that's not an easy thing to do and so clearly he has a very strong opinion of where he wants to be i think there's respect for that i give him respect for it too of it especially if it's you know it's like hey i'm not getting the roles and i'm not doing it all right john you're 107 you've set you have set the bar here today. Gonna be tougher by yourself. We'll see a rock. With Christian Harlow, of course. 114.
Starting point is 02:03:04 114 for a double is laughable. You did. You have the record. You still hold the all-time record. I think it was at 132 or something. So it was like pretty crazy. And I lied, it's 108. 1008.
Starting point is 02:03:18 Yeah, Derek just threw into it. Thank you, Derek. Yeah. So all right, John, quick. Tell them what you're doing today. Where can they find you? What's going to? Yeah, it might be going live later on today.
Starting point is 02:03:27 So look for me and make an announcement on that later on after the Yankees game for God's got to watch that game. But you can come join me on the YouTube channel, YouTube.com slash John Roka says YouTube. dot com slash John Roker says, I love you guys contributing, but come over and subscribe to the channel. Get me to 50,000 subscribers. Please would appreciate it. And I've got the geek buddies review of the penguin coming out and about an maybe half an hour
Starting point is 02:03:48 to an hour. It'll be out there for you all to enjoy as well. Thanks for having me on, Christian. I appreciate it. Thanks to everybody on a Monday. Have a great rest of your week. get out of here we'll see you next time john roka everybody thank you guys for being here um i as soon as i get done here i'm going to be hopping over and start to edit some of those clips
Starting point is 02:04:07 from the matthew lillard interview put them on the chips the chips channel sure clips channel um so if you haven't subscribed to that do that if you're into the uap phenomenon i'm going to have my um another video up there pretty soon so we got a lot going on we have live shows there's no out of the theater reactions I'm probably going to do for the time being I'm probably just going to do one movie reaction a week for the time being until I just get so I just there's a lot going on right now but then sometimes I shouldn't just say definitively one sometimes it's going to be two sometimes it's going to be one but definitely one and I'm trying to get a Sam in here this week to watch warrior and we're going to try to do that one that's that's the goal so thanks for being here I really
Starting point is 02:04:47 appreciate it thank you to everybody who contributed today and thank you everybody who put your comments in there and and all that and more. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. We'll be back here tomorrow. It's me and Roxy. Thank you guys so much.
Starting point is 02:05:00 We'll see you on the flip side. Bye. Bye.

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