The Kristian Harloff Show - The 5 biggest box office bombs revealed by Deadline

Episode Date: April 17, 2023

Come see us LIVE Burbank  April 28: http://ww.thekristianharloff.com What were the top flops financially in 2022? Deadline put a report going over exactly that. The Little Mermaid gets its runtime. Dune 2 star Rebeca Ferguson says the second part is superior to the first. Super Mario Bros rules the box office. Air, Renfield don't do that well. Why is that? This and more on the show. Enjoy!  #pixar #mario #movies #dune  THANK YOU TO CARBON HEALTH: http://www.carbonhealth.com GREEN CHEF: Go to http://GreenChef.com/thing60  to get 60% off plus free shipping."  SUNDAY: Full-season plans start at just $109, and you can get 20% off when you visit GET http://www.getsunday.com/Bigthing EXPRESSVPN: Protect your online activity TODAY with the VPN rated #1 by Business Insider. Visit my exclusive link http://www.ExpressVPN.com/thing  OUR MERCH STORE IS LIVE: https://www.teepublic.com/stores/the-big-thing-kh-channel?ref_id=27393 FOLLOW KRISTIAN + FIND HIM ON CAMEO https://cameo.com/kristianharloff https://twitter.com/kristianharloff https://facebook.com/harloff https://instagram.com/kristianharloff AMAZON WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/1KPH42T0TP0PG?ref=cm_sw_em_r_un_un_djbxgIW5ZQMMg SCHMOEDOWN ARCHIVE CHANNEL: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheMovieTriviaSchmoedownArchives Ask Kristian questions for next time! https://facebook.com/harloff Become a Patreon of the Schmoedown: http://patreon.com/schmoedown OTHER GREAT CONTENT: REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT368qY7sfE0nKE4c04CqGvu TV REVIEWS https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT1LU-t2Z9AD5UJDiWW4pS_E STAR WARS SHOW https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT0XmfpbblkF9PY7uO2qhbN6 THE BIG THING PODCAST https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSJdE28YyUT3KAwbzDsv6mdR-gwUiydQg

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a lot of fun guests coming up, a lot of things in general. And this, today's show, we've got a lot of really fun news stories. Dune, apparently, Rebecca Ferguson says that this is superior to the first. And that makes me excited because I loved the first one very much so. The Harry Potter series is getting a lot of talk. A lot of people talking about, is it a good idea? Is it a bad idea? Lots of talk overall.

Lots of talk about the Little Mermaid, whether positive, negative, excited. not excited. Well, it also has a runtime, and it's a long run time, not as long as Martin Scorsese's new movie, but man, it's a long one. And Mario continuing to smash at the box office right now. Looks like that movie's going to make a billion dollars. Renfield didn't do as well as people hoped that it would. And the da-da-da-da-a-da-a-da. That's right. I didn't know if you knew that, but now you do. and Dragons, the show has got a showrunner, and there's a lot more to talk about today. There's a lot more to talk about. But that's the main stuff that we're really going to get into, and I'm excited to talk about it. And we're also going to talk about what was the biggest bomb of 2022?

See if you can guess. If you already know the answer, then don't guess. But if you didn't know the answer, what do you think the biggest box office bomb was in 2022? We're going to discuss that. and I thought that this one would have been up there, but I didn't know that it was the number one. Okay, let's talk about a couple of things before we move into the actual show itself. We're right around the corner, guys.

I mean, right around the corner, we're just, shoot, what is it, 11 days away from the Big Thing Live at Flappers Comedy Club, April 28th. Now, a lot of people didn't know this, too. I ran into some people that are like, hey, I'm coming to your show, or I wasn't able to come to the show, but I really wanted to watch it. I wish you were streaming, and I said, we are live streaming.

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and look at that crew that's going to be there. If you haven't gotten yourself a shirt, man, for some reason, there was a big boost in big thing shirts over the weekend. I ain't complaining. Sith Council, these other things. Get a, get yourself a shirt. And yeah, I love it. I love to you public. I love working with them. So make sure you do that. All right, that's it, everybody. That's the, that's the intro.

That's my, that's, if you haven't already done this, subscribe to the channel, obviously. Brand new episodes coming up. I should say that before, I guess maybe before we get fired up here. Katie Sackob is coming back on the show next week. We're going to announce the giveaway for the helmet. So we'll be with Katie. talking to all things, spoilers for Mandalorian Season 3. She'll be on the show. And that'll be Monday's episode. Freddie Prince Jr. is coming in.

And we're going to be talking to Freddie about his new podcast and a lot of other things. So make sure you check that out. I've got some fun guests coming up right around the pike. There's a lot of great things happening. We've got some old school guests coming in. The live stream channel's been going well. So there you go. There you go.

That's the beginning. And now let's get to the juice. It's the big thing. I'm ready? Cool. Let's do it. What's going on, everybody? Big thing. Monday.

Hope you had a good weekend. It was good. For old school schmose fans and Shmowdown fans and people in general that know the great Mark Riley, him and his lovely wife now, Julie, they did the thing, man. They got married over the weekend. So we went out there and it was a nice little Friday, Saturday thing.

and hung out with Dagnino a lot and Kaiser everybody there's a lot of people there Rachel Cushing was there Mark and O'Noppick, Dan Merle, Sam Levine, Michael Nowski, Shannon, Emma Fife there's so many people out there

and people that I miss but I mean I'm sure people also that I just forgot to say that were there that I hung out with as well but it was it was a good time we had a blast and it was nice to get away like in kind of wine country and and it was a nice little celebration, if you will.

Of course, Mark Ellis was there. I can't forget Mark Ellis, but I was just, I was assume everybody just thinks that he's at these things as well. And we had a good time. So if you have an opportunity, send over a tweet to Mark Riley and say, congratulations.

And he's very, very happy, as he should be. And then I was like, okay, we got a big week coming. up. I got so much stuff coming up this weekend. I know that it's kind of the combo for the storm the summer movie season. There's a lot of stuff coming up. I had guardians. I was going to, I told a lot of people I was going to go to to cinema con and I had the, I got approved for press. I had all that stuff and I just can't make it work with my schedule. And then when I get back, if I got back on that Thursday when it was over and then we got to jump into that Friday live show, it was just too much. So unfortunately I can't go and it's just, it's a bummer because I know that

it would have been tremendous for the coverage I could have given you guys with the flash coming out. I think they're going to scream Mission Impossible and a bunch of other things and Guardians first look and all that. So it would have been definitely there would have been a lot to cover, no doubt. It just couldn't make it happen. But there's just a lot coming up though, man, with, I mean, just the summer seasons right around the corner when it comes to the movie summer season. People are always like, little summer yet until June. the summer movie season hits in like the beginning of May. And the first one is Guardians.

That's going to be the big one. Roxy and I, if you watched Thursday's episode, Roxy and I kind of covered the movies that were coming out. I think we're going to do like, we should probably do like a big epic summer movie preview season, probably soon so we can cover all of the months. I think that would be kind of the way to go. I don't know.

Maybe I'll do it on one of my live streams. I don't know yet, but either way, we'll definitely cover it. one way or another to cover everything that's coming out because there's so much i'm excited for and um and yeah so i hope you've been enjoying all the stuff that we've been doing and like i said it's there was there's a lot of star wars with with celebration that hit there's a lot of things in general with uh you know mandoloreans closing up and then and then we just start firing into this this summer movie season so get ready for kids it's going to be a good one um and then i think that like once with the The way the big thing works, by the way, is Mondays is usually either a solo show, a guest, let's say, Katie Sackoff, Freddie Prince Jr.

You know, I think I'm going to start trying to get Kate on a little bit more on the Monday shows. So that's something as well. But I know some people really like the solo shows. I mean, it's kind of mixture. That's what I like about Monday. It's almost like a grab bag. You don't know where you're going to get as where Wednesday. You always know what you're going to get with the big thing.

Sith counsel with myself, Mike and Steph. And then Thursday's always Brett Roxy, even though Brett's been off the last couple of weeks. But the reason, where's Brett been? And you got to remember, I was sick for a little bit. So everything got kind of thrown off. Brett and Roxy should be back this week. And then Friday's usually myself coin Winston, but Winston broke his leg.

So we're waiting for Winston and get better. Winston will be at the April 28th show, though. I don't know if he's going to be doing stand-up comedies per se, but he'll definitely be sitting down on the couch, maybe telling jokes. So get ready for that. All right, let's get into these stories because there's a ton of them. There's a ton of stories.

And the first one, Man, I love Dune. I love Dune. The first movie was so good. I do. I think I was a little more adamant back in the day when it came out that, back in the day, what, two years ago? But when it came out and I was like, oh, man, I loved watching it from my home, which I did, but I still think that I would have loved the scene in the theater. So I'm really excited to see the second one in the theater.

And now one of the stars, Rebecca Ferguson, who I love, who, you know, for Mission Impossible. She teased that the new movie, Dune Part 2, it's even better. It's superior with the words that she used than its 2021 predecessor. Ferguson reprises her role in the film as Lady Jessica, and Jessica has a key role throughout the book with the adaptation split into two films. She is key to helping Paul become, well, I don't want to say anymore for people who didn't see it. Speaking on Jake's takes while promoting Apple TV, this is what she said. I'm going to say that Part 2 is even better than Part 2.

one and that's me without seeing it that is me based on what I've read what I've seen what I've filmed I just think it's going to be better that's you got me sold I was sold anyway it was stupid ass I am we did the most anticipated see um lists at the I don't know if I did the beginning of this year or or the end of the tail end of the last year I think I just did the beginning of this year and I talk about Dune all the time and guess I what was missing from my most anticipated list. And I'm like, oops. And people are, wait, you don't want to see it anymore?

I'm like, no, I'm a moron. I've totally forgot it. Which, by the way, I think I told, I wish people would have had a camera on Dagnino and I had this wedding. Everywhere we went, we would, I walked up to the photographer, Riley's, we were all in the wedding party. So I walked up to Riley's photographer, and I said, you see that guy right there?

And I pointed at Degneum. I said, he's what we know in some parts as what's sort of I'm looking for. Yeah, more. on. And then he was like, we're all lined up. He goes, what's that guy's name again? That guy? I go, that's putts. And he goes, hey, putts.

Moves to the right. And then, you know, without even blinking, moves. Anyway, so stupid me forgets it in the most anticipated list, and it's probably number two right behind Indiana Jones, I would say. I can't wait for it. It is,

it fills that void of the thing that, like, still very much enjoy going to see the DC movies, the Marvel movies, the Star Wars movies in the theater. I do. But I also want to see epic grand scale movies that are outside of that. I think that's why I get excited and not necessarily grand scale, but different types of movies. So I got excited for Creed 3. That's why I got excited for John Wick. And that's why I got excited to those other movies because I like other games or other fighters in the fight. You know what I mean? And Dune is another

fighter in the fight and it comes out at a time where and especially with the even a move of what he can do the filmmaker that he is and as much as much as much as I loved the first one to I'm gonna definitely watch the first one again and then I'll probably watch it twice once once probably soon and then I'll probably watch it once right before I see it I'm trying to get a premiere invite only because only because I want to take Matt Sarah. I don't get, if I couldn't,

if I couldn't get, if I couldn't get Matt, Sarah said he would want to go, only because Matt Sarah is like a Dune fanatic. Not for any other reason. But that would be amazing. But the fact that, you know, a lot of times there's hype around like, actors who say, yeah, it's better than the first.

It's amazing. It's so good. But when you put facts together with the, the fact that it's a book already. it's not some, well, we had to kind of throw things against the wall. It's already a story that's been written. It's already a story that we, you know, if you read the book, you know what's going to happen. And the fact that Rebecca Ferguson is like, no, no, no, this is the conclusion to it all

and how it plays out and what this guy shot and what I filmed out of control. I haven't even seen it. I believe it. I mean, a lot of times you could be okay to say, well, it could just be hype from the actor saying it's hype. and that might have an element to it. I believe it. What do you guys think? You think it's just hype?

Or do you think this is actually going to be a fantastic, fantastic film and better than the first? Or is it even going to be maybe not better than the first? Maybe it's just going to be something that after it's done, you're going to say, no, no, no, you got to watch these together because it's one massive movie, like Kill Bill Volume 1 and 2 when you watch them together in like one big long day, it just plays that well.

That's how I feel it's going to be. I feel it's going to be like it's just going to fit the second. It's going to elevate the first. And you're like, oh yeah, the second half is maybe stronger than the first, but it's the way I think it is. But I'm curious. What do you guys think? Make sure you comment.

Let us know. And obviously, if you didn't know this radio, a lot of you guys do, and I get comments about this all the time. I get comments about this from the podcast sponsors, by the way, and this is a testament to you guys is something I've been wanting to thank you about. I'm glad I just remembered it. They're very aware that this channel has very active subscribers on it.

And people who, I should even use the word more so than subscribers. Community. And it's something that you guys know, if you've been following me long enough, or maybe you didn't. I think the community is the strongest element of this thing. And it's one of the main things about YouTube. It's why I try to comment back as much as I can and keep the conversation going.

And you're always clicking like. You're always hitting the comment buttons. And they pay attention to that stuff. And, you know, where they look at and they go, oh, wow, there's people who are really active on here and have a conversations and the vibe is 90, I'd say 90% positive. And just to let you know, if you come in here and you're throwing like hate speech, and you're throwing insults at whether it's me, co-hosts, other people. You're like, oh, how come I wrote this whole big thing?

And I insult to this guy, and he never responded and none of his audience. Because you just get thrown out right away. It's a filter and you get thrown out. So when there's, it's a, oh, you know what a criticism? Not true. You can say, I don't agree with your take. And I think that your take is, I'm not really excited about doing it. I didn't think it was a good movie.

And I'll tell you why I disagree with that. You're not going anywhere. We encourage that. it's it's insults it's it's you know this there was a conversation going on the other day and I saw a lot of it and it went back and forth and it was like for big thing for Sith counsel we talk about Star Wars a lot and I loved the last episode of Mandalorian but we critiqued a lot of the stuff that we didn't and there was and again this is no insult to the particular person who wrote this they just said oh I can't watch Sith Council because you're too negative I said well I'm sorry you feel that way that's not

I mean, I said, well, you might have been watching the wrong episode because that's not, that's negative to me is just completely just bashing the entire time. Fair criticism of certain things and certain things you like, certain things you didn't like. I'm just not a everything is awesome channel. That's just not my, that's just not my thing. There are a lot of great channels that are, everything is awesome. And if you like that and you want just pure 100% positivity on everything, I think that's encouraging and it's great, but it's just not. It's just not my thing. I like to see the good, the bad, the ugly, you know, all of it and talk about it.

But even that, the reason I bring that up is that conversation was never insulting. It was never names thrown. It was a conversation going, hey, I'm not going to watch. I'm still going to support. I'm still going to subscribe because of this, this, and this. But the last couple weeks for me hasn't been my thing because I just want to hear positive all the time. to which I said, listen, I appreciate it. I don't agree with the assessment,

and I think that if there's certain things, that it's just not my thing, and back and forth, and we had a positive conversation. Even people who were chiming in, were having positive conversation about it. I encourage that. I love that.

I don't have to agree with it, but I love it. And you're not going to get thrown out for that. So that's what I'm saying. The community aspect is really important over here. So if you're throwing that comment in there, you're throwing a like in there, you're having conversations,

other people. Thank you for doing it. I really appreciate it. It's tremendous, it's helpful, and it's being noticed by a lot of people, obviously myself, but a lot of people. So thank you for help growing the show and growing the channel, because without you guys, we couldn't do any of this. Now, let's move on. Let's head on over, and we're going to go to the next story. And that story is going to be this runtime for Little Mermaid, man. So, there's a lot of talk about The Little Mermaid right now. And I think there's a lot of criticism on it. There's a lot of criticism, I think, that is unwarranted and racist and hateful and garbage, to be honest.

Then I also think there's warranted criticism, as we were just talking about. CGI didn't look very good. crab looked terrible she looked great her voice sounds great but the question is will it deliver on an overall scale and we don't know the answer this yet

but what we do know and again a lot of these stories are from dark horizons.com and it says that Disney's live action remake of The Little Mermaid is continuing the trend of long blockbusters this year and now this film is reportedly set to be the longest live action

Disney remake. According to a new listing from AMC theaters, the Little Mermaid is clocking in at 135 minutes, which is two hours and 15 minutes. That's over the previous record holder of Cruella at 134 minutes. I forgot all about Curella. I like that movie. What's especially surprising is it comes in considerably longer

than its animated predecessor, which was 83 minutes, which is nearly an hour shorter. So rumors of test screenings have dubbed this the best Disney remake, though we'll have to see about that. Rob Marshall helms the film about Ariel, who's a beautiful and spirited young mermaid with a thirst for adventure, and the youngest of King Triton's daughters, and the most defiant Ariel just do.

We know the story. Okay, the cast, it's going to come out on May 26th. All right. Look, the first thing I say, when I say, I always go, oh, when a movie's long. This freaking Flowers of the Moon is another one of my most anticipated movies. It's almost four hours long. I don't know if I'm going to see that in the theater.

I have to leave my noon. Like, that's long. This isn't too long. Two hours and 15 minutes. It's long for a Disney remake, but it's not, it's not like unbearable. I mean, unless the movie's unbearable, but first of all, test screenings. Test screenings I always ask the same thing about test screen

is the same thing I ask about like polling. Who are you polling? Who's the test screens to? Test screens can be very accurate. Test screening could be like, oh yeah, we show this to people who were skeptical. We showed this to people who didn't like the last trailer and they loved it.

We showed people who were just going to love it no matter what. And we didn't really even show them that much. Nothing was finished. They didn't care. They were just clapping. and smiling. Who knows who the audience was, the test screenings. Now, probably pretty, I would say it's probably closer to the first and of just people who were going to see the movie and, and that's

encouraging. Rat Marshall's a good director. Rob Marshall's a good director. My, I'm telling you, my biggest concern out of all of it was not the singing. It's not the casting. It was, the look of the crab was terrible, but that's, that's, that's small thing. It was the, it was the, is the same thing that's kind of happened with some of the Star Wars shows and some of the Marvel shows are they getting too reliant on the volume are they getting too reliant on

on you know CGI and all that and it's hard because they're underwater right I thought that who did it the best I mean obviously Avatar did it the best but Avatar also had a lot more money as far as budget goes I'm talking about underwater stuff but there's ways to do it and there's other ways

that I can't remember there's another movie that did it and it wasn't Aquaman it was something else I can't remember that did something underwater And I said, oh, man, that's, I wish that would have looked like that. I don't remember. But to be fair, also, is this a couple trailers on the small screen. What's it look like on the big screen?

And does the story work? But 215, if the story sets, and that also does mean you're adding, which one of the biggest criticisms on the Star Wars, on the live action remakes have always been, well, I've seen all this before. I've seen all this before. It says, why'd you remake it if you're just going to do the same movie, like the Lion King? There wasn't really much that they added to that. Feuding the Beast, it wasn't too much that they added to that. I liked both of those. Call me a simple when it comes out.

I liked all of them. I also saw it with my kids, with my kid, and I was watching it, and I understood criticisms for it, but I didn't mind them. I thought Cinderella was the best, and Cuella. Corella, obviously, not really a live action remake per se. It was kind of a prequel origin story. But I would say Cinderella was the best where they took something and really dove into the core of what it was

and added more to it to enrich the story. And if you're adding an hour to this, it certainly seems like that's what you're going to have to do if it's 2.15 and the other one is barely 1.15. So that should be encouraging. To people who are going to see the movie, that it means that they're actually writing more, and they want to explore more of the story,

and they want to explore the love story, they want to explore more about the home stuff, and they want to develop character. They want to add a couple more songs. So yeah. So what do you guys think? Where are you guys at with it? Once again, if you're coming into the comments section

and you're going to have a positive conversation about it, your critiques are encouraged, your skepticism. Also, if done right, is encouraged, Your positivity is encouraged. Have a good conversation about it. If it's going to be one of these things we're just going to call names, blah, blah, blah, you're not going to make it into the comment section. But again, I say that with this audience where it doesn't really happen too much here.

So I want to hear your thoughts, though. What do you think? Do you think that this is going to be a good movie? Are you actually encouraged by the 215? Because it means they're adding more to it off of that big criticism of that it's not the same movie. something different, they have their new take on it, or is it too long for you? Is that just too long? You weren't excited about it in the first place, and this is going to kind of either bring back the excitement, or maybe it encourages. I'm so excited, actually, to hear what you guys

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And we got some good ones. We got some good ones. We've got some good ones. We've got some good ones. Here's the next story. All right, the next story here, moving on up, is this Super Mario. That's not a Super Mario picture, but these are the other two movies that came out during the weekend. But Super Mario takes the title again.

It is absolutely crushing. Super Mario Brothers was in its second week this week against also two other movies. But you had Super Mario Brothers, which is the running champion at the moment, and it took an 87 million in week two. And it only had a 41% drop from its debut last week. That is the best second weekend ever for an animated film, ever. To date, the film has grossed. 47.8 million in North America alone and 678 million globally, and it's on track to earn well over a billion by the time it is over.

So that also means that Renfield did not do well. It opened in fourth place and it only made 7.7 million falling short of expectations and not a good sign for a film that cost apparently 65 million without marketing. didn't have good reviews, and both critically, and a B-minus cinema score, seems like it's not going to do well for Renfield. It came in behind the most cost-efficient Russell Crow led R-rated demonic thriller The Pope's Exorcist in second with $9.1 million. It didn't do good reviews, but it was only made for $18 million, and it's probably going to make its money back. John Wick 4 came in third with 7.9 in its fourth weekend.

It is now overtaking the third film to become the highest earner of the franchise with 160 million domestic and 349 million globally. Ben Afflex Air closed out the top 5.7.7. Pulled in 54 million, and that's not exactly good for a 90 million budget film with solid marketing and budget and a planned wave of Amazon studio titles attempting to be sold on the benefit of theatrical exclusive windows. The news was also not good for Mafia Mama. I don't know what that is.

The Tony, oh, okay, do know what that is. The Tony Collette-led comedy debuting to a dismal 2.4. million. Suzuki easily beat it, taking in five. And then there's this Ari Aster's highly divisive A-24, Bow is Afraid. It grows $320,000 on four screens, delivering $80,000 per screen, which makes the biggest per theater average of the year so far. All right.

A lot to take in here. Let's start with Mario Bros. So this is a movie that not surprisingly you're doing really, really well. nothing really out for kids right now also plays into the nostalgia for the parents taking the children. I'm going to go take my youngest to see it probably next weekend. I've seen it already. I had a

smile on my face the entire time. I said it and I stand by the fact that it's got a bit of a flimsy story. Who cares? Who cares? Yeah, who cares? Did you have fun watching? I had fun watching it. If my five-year-old going to like it? Yeah, my five-year-old is going to like it. And do I understand why

it's making shit tons of money? I absolutely do. and I'm glad that it is. I mean, it's crazy that it's making as much as it is, and the second biggest, what, animated film or whatever it was, that's nuts. And then the drop off, because again, there's no competition for it at all. It's like people are finally really starting to take kids to the movies a lot more now

and going, okay, well, what do we have for the kids? There's been less and less over the last couple of years, and now you can start taking your kids back to the theater and seen him, and it's right before summer. It's a good movie to go take him to see, and it's a great time to catch it. So we know why it is. As far as Bo's Afraid goes,

I don't know enough about the buzz behind it. I don't know enough about the divisiveness of it, all that. But, I mean, that's a good number for what it had. So we'll see as it opens a little wider, how it does. Now, the answer to both the Tony Collette movie and the Renfield movie, And even air, even air, which air is my favorite movie of the year. Air is my favorite movie of the year.

It is a great film. But it goes back into my pre- same thing with Renfield and not being my favorite movie the year. Renfield, I thought, was, if you looked at the trailer, that movie's not for me, but if you look at the trailer and you like the trailer and feel that this kind of over-the-top, silliness and people ripping arms off and blood spraying everywhere,

and all that kind of stuff. And you enjoy that, what they deliver in the trailer, in the movie, what they promised in the trailer. If you looked at the trailer going, I don't know about this, then you're probably one of the people

that said, not for me. This guy. But I'm not surprised it didn't do very well. I'm not surprised if it cost that kind of money, and I'm not surprised, like you look at the Russell Crow movie that is going to turn a profit

because it costs nothing to, make, didn't get great reviews, but they scaled down on the budget to make a profit. That's what we've been talking about for a lot of these other movies, and this is massive. This is kind of ID, this is what I'm saying when he scale things down, a Determinator thing that I talk about all the time, how taking big risks like Black Adam and spending almost $200 million on that movie, and then it barely breaks even on $400 million or whatever it That movie should have cost that movie. A smaller budget should have been like 90 million to 100

or scale it down even more. But movies like air, and again, I love it. It's my favorite movie this year. Costing almost 100 is a massive risk in today's market in the theater. Because this is not 1998. When people are going to the theater to see everything and see movies with acting. people go to, you know, acting, seeing movies with just drama and character building.

It's not why people go to the movies a lot of the times. It's not saying that it doesn't add and not saying that it's not going to affect people's enjoyment of a film if there's more of that stuff inside of it. But box office, box office is about the spectacle. Box office is about the, you know, I'm hoping and crossing my fingers that something like Dune can be spectacle meets story meets character and I know that the movie will, but saying that people will want to see that. Because the first one did good, but it didn't do like almost a billion dollars or whatever the hell it does. It's an escape. Right now, it's why the movies like the, and even the Marvel movies right now need to pick up on the side of that. This is, I guess, going with my point that you need to have both.

It's got to balance both because you look at Ant Man and what the hell just came in? Something else just come out? Was it Ant Man? Was it the one that just came out? What else? Something. Yeah, it was just Amman. Yeah, Ant Man was the one that just did like, O.

It was just like barely broke even, right? Or didn't even break even. Because it had too much spectacle and not enough character, not enough, all that. So when you have movies like Air, when you have movies like Renfield, these are movies that today, you can find them on Netflix, these types of movies. You can find them on Amazon. And by putting them in the theater with that kind of budget, it's going to be risky now. People aren't going to the movies for those types of films. and if they are, and if you're going to put them in the films, put them in the theaters,

you got to take the budget down. You have to. You cannot do a big budget movie. Like Renfield should not have cost that much money to make because you're not going to make that back in the theater because it's too, unless it's like a such a, and even then, such, I mean, look at Air. Air's fantastic. It's getting great reviews. But it's not getting people in the theater. It's not a movie that people are going to be rushing out to see and breaking box office.

right now. And what Renfield should have done what that Russell Crow movie did. It should have been a way scale down budget because then it could have made money over time. Same thing with the Tony Colette movie. It's like that seems like a movie built for streaming or Netflix or Amazon or anything right now. And maybe it catches on and maybe people see it. But theater, it's tough now, man. There's very, and because it's theaters are so expensive and because movies are so expensive right now, families are choosing and not just families, dates and everything, they're choosing what they're

going to see. And like, it's not, it's not one of these. I'll just go to the movies every week. It doesn't really, it's not, and then the pandemic changed at all. The pandemic really changed. Remember, people were talking about in the pandemic that the theaters were going under. It wasn't even going to be a thing anymore. And thank God that didn't happen.

And there are now ways, and I say that as someone who's like, yeah, if it happens, it happens. You have stuff at home, because my family like my wife and everybody else too when movies come out we can sit home we don't go to the theater a lot too but as I've been going back to the theater

for screenings I have regained my appreciation for the in theater experience and I will say I liked watching air on the big screen I don't think it was necessary Renfield same thing liked watching on the big screen

don't think it was necessary and clearly the audience didn't think it was necessary now when I see a movie like Dungeons and Dragons I have not seen yet and I want to see it, and I want to see it in the theater, because I do feel that that movie is necessary. And I think Dungeons and Dragons is an example of that kind of, from what I hear, I have not seen it,

and people who have seen it in the comment section can tell me if I'm right or wrong, but what I've heard is it's not just a big spectacle. It certainly has that, but it has character, it has heart, it has humor, it has all the things meant to get, and it's one of the reasons why, if that is all true, and from what I've heard from everybody who has seen it, That is how you get people into the theater and continue in a recognizable IP, obviously.

But it's tough, man. It's tough to, like the Scorsese movie being four hours, putting that in the theater, I think that's coming out in the theater. That's going to be interesting to see how that movie does. I can't imagine with the tension spans, it with the TikTok generation trying to get people into that theater for four hours to watch that movie. I don't know. This one I'm definitely interested,

even more so than the other stories, to really get your thoughts on it. What do you guys think about, any of the stuff we just talked about here? Why do you think Renfield and Ayer didn't do, and the Tony Klett-Mah movie didn't do as well? Is it anything that I'm talking about? Is it some of that?

Is it less? Is it something else? What do you think? And as far as Mario, do you understand why it's making the money it's making? what say you. Please go ahead and comment and let me know. All right, before we move on,

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actually. And I got a little, let me bring up this one. The Munsters, guys. The Monsters is, uh, unfortunately, doesn't look like we're getting a sequel. I know you guys are, are bummed about that. Why? Because, uh, you're not going to see Brett and I talking about the Munsters anymore. But it looks like no monsters, no plans. And I wonder why. Well, here's, here's one of the reasons they say. I guess Rob Zombie, I don't even, I wonder how much it was. in general. But again, from Dark Horizons.com, last fall, filmmaker Rob Zombie, he decided to release his family horror comedy film take on the 1960 sitcom The Monsters on Netflix and on disc. The PG-rated feature was shot in Budapest, the height of COVID,

and served as something as a prequel to the two seasons of the 1960 sitcom, and it showed how Herman and Lily met before they ended up on 13,000. 13 rocking verne lane and reviews for the film weren't good 52% that's generous with critics and even worse 36% with audiences on rotten tomatoes that's more accurate it was evidently a passion project of zombie famously mostly for his very dark and gory horror films in a new interview with entertainment weekly on the 20th anniversary of house of a thousand corpse zombie says he has no plans to do a sequel and talks about the rough experience he had getting the film finance and completed during the pandemic this is what he said the monsters was exhausting that was an exhausting that was an exhausting

movie to make. It took almost five years of nonstop pushing and then being in a foreign country during the height of COVID was not as fun as you think. So the whole experience was draining. I won't make another one and I don't want it. The only reason I would ever want to is because I like, because I like making sequels. You have so little time with the first movie to develop these characters. And towards the end of the months, you're still going, okay, now that's set, you can jump in. Uh, zombie said that currently focused on, he's focusing, focused on music and set to tour the summer with Alice Cooper. This is good news, to be honest.

I got nothing against Rob Zombie. I think he's a very talented musician. And I actually really like how passionate he is about filmmaking. I really do. When you hear him talking about it, the guy loves making movies, and he loves doing these things. I just don't happen to like any of his movies. That doesn't mean anything except it's just on my taste.

But that movie was terrible. In my opinion, you guys could love it. I'm part of that 34% or whatever the hell it was for critics, or excuse me, audience. yeah and it's just it's just not a good movie and but it's you feel for the guy when he talks about how hard it was during that time to shoot it I couldn't even imagine and trying to push together and no matter what like whether you like the movies or not you always kind of applaud people that you put that much heart and effort and five years to make a movie and being able to do that

and all that's I mean it's it's it's it's a commendable and but again it's just it was it was rough It was rough. But look, he calls what it is. He doesn't want to do it again. And if he doesn't want it, then he shouldn't. So is anybody disappointed about that? I'm sure I have seen people, especially in the comment section, who have talked about, hey, I liked it.

I didn't think it was that bad. I thought it was entertaining. Is there anybody here watching the show today that feels that way? Please let me know. I really am very, very curious if that is indeed the case. I got to know. All right, here's the thing. I'm pretty, and I think that I was going to maybe even lead with this today,

because I didn't, I wasn't, I didn't know what I was going to lead with yet, and I still might change it up. But as I mentioned in the top here, there's a movie that was the 2022, the biggest flop. Now, again, if you know the answer, then don't put it in the comment section. but if you don't, before you even have a chance to hear me say what it was, put a guest in there in the comments.

Hey, before I even hear, this is my guess, and here's why I think it did the worst. There was a movie in 2020, 2020, 2020, 2020, 2020. It was a movie in 2022 that was the biggest box office flop. So we're going to talk about that right now. The answer, go ahead and push pause, if you don't know it, what it is. But the answer, ladies and gentlemen, was Strange World. Disney Strange World was 2002's biggest flop.

So there were two male skewing Disney sci-fi animated films set on Alien Worlds, and three early mid-20th century period pieces make up the list of the five biggest box office flops of 2022. A new data analysis report over at deadline has gone into, the biggest box office flops of 2022 and breaking down not just their box office tallies, but home entertainment revenue, foreign sales, and streaming TV deals. Disney's animated pulp adventure tale, Strange World, was the biggest bomb of 2022. The film lost the mouse house around $197 million. Oof.

Coming in at a production budget of $180 million. Why is that movie cost that much? Just $55 million at the box office worldwide. and the film was up there with John Carter and the Lone Ranger as two of Disney's biggest flops. Not far behind for Disney was Lightyear in third place. That's surprising. That's surprising.

What was supposed to be a triumphant return to cinema has resulted in an estimated 106 million loss for the company. Here's your answer. $200 million production budget and a costly marketing campaign of well over $100 million. The film only managed $220,000. million at the box office worldwide. So the second was Amsterdam, David O. Russell's World War I

Ensemble, Caper comedy starring Christian Bale, John David Washington, and Marco Robbie. The result was a loss of 108 million for New Regency, 80 million, and as much, again, in marketing the film, only managed a paltry, 31 million at the global box office. in fourth was the war drama devotion starring Jonathan Majors and Glenn Powell which lost 80 million despite good reviews this movie came out too too early

this movie should have come out after Creed and Antman the Korean Warfighter pilot story was a costly $90 million to make and had a fairly cost effective marketing campaign and only made 20.5 million domestically and barely broke one million overseas finally in fifth place was Babylon 189 minute epic about 1920s Hollywood resulted in a loss of 87.4 million for Paramount Pictures.

Okay, a lot to take in here, man. Lots to take in here. Let's start with the same conversation that we just had before. Babylon. 80 million production budget, they're aiming at the right thing. Too long. Too long. 189 minutes.

Too long to get people in the same. theater to see that too long about Hollywood too long 80 million yeah it made 15 million domestically that's not a movie it's it's it's we're in a different time period kids no one's going out to watch 189 million a 189 minute movie about Hollywood it's just like get out of your bubble I didn't even see it yet and I like Damien Chazelle but I wouldn't go I mean if I was if it wasn't covering this it's not one I'm going to go out and see in the theater right now. It's not the first one. It's not enough for people to go, yeah, people are going to want to see this in the theater. Let's spend 90 million on it and then make it

189 minutes. It's insanity. If you're making it for streaming again, then sky's a limit. Have a blast. Do what you got to do. Different rules. Devotion movie came out at a wrong, at the wrong time. Now, I'm not talking about the Jonathan Majors legal stuff that's going on right now. We discussed on capes and cows. We don't know what's happening with it yet as this is let I'm in the time period here of right when Creed 3 and

Ant Man came out. If that movie comes out you know, in March well March was Creed 3 but and I guess again you know if you put it in April maybe

but whenever whenever you should to try to capitalize on his star power and pushed it. Because same thing to Glenn Powell, his star is growing as well. Top Gun and all these things, and he's probably going to get cast in Green Lantern. And his star is rising.

Their star wasn't big enough yet to market on them. Because people didn't know who they both were yet. So I started watching that movie, and I liked what I saw. We just didn't get back to it. But that to me is one of the, and plus, again, harder movie to sell in the theater without two major movie stars yet.

That's a harder one to sell. Now, it's not always that the movie star is going to get you box office, but it helps. It helps. And that was tougher at that time. I would have held that one back. So those two, easy to zone in on. Amsterdam, very easy to zone it on.

Not a good movie, despite the major cast that you have. 80 million budget again. And it only made 31 because there's no buzz on it. I remember everyone going to see it. It was like, okay, it's David O. Russell. It's Christian Bell. It's John David Washington and Margot Robbie. This is going to be fantastic.

Nobody's talking about it wasn't good. It just wasn't a good movie. So couple that with the, again, harder movie to get people into the theater with, especially when it came out. So that's not surprising to me at all. That's coupled with not being a good movie, a little too long and all over the place and not a movie today that people are running to the theater to see. So not surprising. Now here that, I mean, both light year and strange worlds. Now, as far as light year goes, it cost, or it made $226 million at the box office worldwide.

Not a good number. Even worse is that it cost $200 million to make with the story that it was and with a confusing ending for children. Very confusing ending for children. I liked it, understood the ending of it, because, again, the way the time stuff and all that, and didn't mind. But it's not a very exciting film, and it plays off of the Toy Story character, right? And it's definitely not made for little kids. It just isn't. So a $200 million budget was a massive mistake with $100 million worth of marketing.

Yeah, I mean, your fingers pointed right there. That was a silly, silly move on how they did that because they probably thought, hey, it's Buzz Light Year. People are going to want to see Buzz Light Year. And it wasn't the Buzz Light Year that the kids were familiar with. It was definitely made more so for adults. And I didn't mind the movie. Didn't mind it. Just was definitely not something that I was going to drag my five-year-old to see

because she would have been like, what is going on? Especially the ending. Ending right overhead when she watched it at home. Didn't know what the hell was going on. So, and with 100 million markings, it doesn't surprise me that the movie lost money. And it also doesn't surprise me that Strange World didn't make money. Again, the difference is I thought that Light Year is a significantly better movie than Strange World.

Strange World is all over the place. And too bizarre at points, and it costs way too much money. Look, you want to spend $200 million on Light Year. You want to take a risk on Light Year because it's Buzz Light Year and it's connected to the Toy Story franchise. I get it. I do. I get it. what in the world are they thinking putting $180 million into a movie like this

that no one knows what it is, $180 million. It made $55 million at the box office. I don't even talking about the marketing behind it. That is a, that it's one of Disney's biggest flops. Yeah. It mean, it lost them, 200 million. It lost them almost, I mean, almost the amount, it lost them the amount of money plus 17 million more of what it costs to make. Ooh, brutal.

That's brutal. That is absolutely, absolutely brutal. I'm not surprised by, I'm not surprised by these results. I'm surprised by the decisions of Disney on those two where they could have avoided that by cutting down that budget, especially in the time period that we're in over the last three years. This is why I still am a massive advocate

of cutting budgets down now. We went from that spot where it was like a $100 million movie to make a movie was a big, that was a big budget. That was a big budget. to make, to make, like, a $100 million movie. Now it's, like, nothing. And you got to scale it down. Focus on the, focus on real sets,

focus on the characters, focus on the story, stop with the spectacle, stop with doing all these different things where it's, like, just putting the, like, what are they putting $200 million into Strange World and Light Year for? What are you doing? What are you doing?

The movies, those movies should have cost, 120 million tops and Strange World, even less. What is that? Who is it? What's happening? No one knows what it is. And then plus the marketing of it and everything. I mean, Buzz Lightyear or Lightyear, it was like 300 million bucks with everything included.

That was, that's a bad choice, bad choice over there. So Disney's having a rough one. And I think that's a lot of that. I think a lot of that was during the Cheapac era era. But yeah, what do you guys think? A lot of different... Did you get any of those movies? Did you know that some of those would be in there?

Do you agree with my assessment of why I think those movies tanked? Do you think there's other reasons involved of why they might have tanked? Will you let me know? Make sure that you comment. Throw your comments in there, and I really would love to know your thoughts. But yeah, man, this week's going to be fun. Like I said, Freddie Prince Jr.'s coming in. Katie's coming in.

The Katie's episode will probably release next week sometime. But we have a lot of great stuff kind of happening. I'm going to wrap out the year with whatever movies. I'm not sure which I think Evil Dead, George Foreman. I think there's a couple of them that are coming out. And then we get into the summer movie season is right around the corner, guys. I can't wait. And I really can't wait for you guys to be there.

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