The Kristian Harloff Show - THE ACOLYTE EPISODE 4 SPOILER REVIEW

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

The Acolyte is starting a lot of conversations to be sure. The show has been disappointing to a lot of people and there are a lot who enjoy. What did we think of Episode 4? The Jedi try to find Mae and is the mysterious Sith who we think? Join us for this conversation with Kristian, Mike and Steph.

How's it going, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. It is the Acolyte Season 1 episode 4. It is the spoiler discussion here on the show. It's myself. It is Steph Sabra. It's Mike Kalinowski. And we are ready to talk about this show. This show has been in the geeky zeitgeist, divisive to say the least. How do we feel about this one? Last week's episode set the internet on fire. Is this one going to? Are people going to stick around with it? Are people satisfied with it? Did it turn itself around? We will discuss everything that has to do with this episode, this show today.

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So, and people who don't like long intros, stick it up your rear ends. That's what I got to say. So this is the show. Here we go. Now you know, me, Steph, Mike, let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to The Big Thing. Coming to you live. Not really.

Pre-taped. From New York. From California. It is the big thing. Myself, Steph Sabraa, Mike Callan. We got it. That's our first show. See, I told you guys we're going to still do shows together. Steph, how are you? Good. I know I'm glad that you're actually still talking to us when you're across the country. I know it was going to cut Mike, but I figured I can't. Right. I've known him too long.

Shut your mouth. How are you, Mike? What's going on? I'm fine. Oh, good. You sound good. You made it. You moved in. You're all set. I love the background. Looks good, right? I'm not going to take credit for it, stuff. You know why? Okay. Because I didn't do it. That was all my wife. Of course. Who's over your left shoulder?

My left, you mean in the, like the, with the microphone? No, I know. What? That's your right shoulder,

your left shoulder. Oh, my left shoulder over here? Yeah, who's this guy? It's William Wallace. No, above him. George Carlin.

Come on, show a little class for you. He had that much hair? Oh, yeah, man. That was, that was during Saturday Night Live when he hosted Saturday Night Live. So, yeah,

we did the decoration of it. Everything's kind of moving now. it's it's it's really nice i'm telling you let's step you're gonna love this so last night it's they said there's gonna be a heat wave here but even like the heat there's like there's so many trees here that it's like this nice breeze so i'm walking the dog last night and it's it was like something out of a out of a old school disney animated film i'm walking the dog and i've totally forgot about fireflies i haven't seen a firefly in like 25 30 years so i walk and these fireflies start going. I'm like, whoa, I'm like a six-year-old looking fireflies. And then there's this,

there's this huge green, grassy field where I'm walking the dog by. And I swear to you, I look over it. There's 12 bunnies and six birds running together. Like, not chasing one another. You're snow white. I was waiting for snow white to come out. I was like, what is happening? And I was like, I really could not believe it. And this morning I'm having a conversation with the bagel owner. This, I'm so. I'm so. supposed to be here. I'm supposed to be. This is very New York. Everything with the bagel owner. The bagel owner? The bagel store owner. I was talking to him this morning. You got a corner bagel store? Oh, they have a ton of dude someone asked,

Roka asked me the days like, you know, now what are the best pizza places in Los Angeles? And I said, well, I can tell you six probably total in all of Los Angeles. There are literally six in walking distance from where I am right now. Are you going to, are you, do you have a fear of getting chubby? Yes. And my heart exploding. And my heart exploding. And when you order bagels, do you have to say smear there? No.

You just say onion bagel with light cream cheese, onion bagel with cream cheese, Vivian, my oldest is already, she's like, I want what I had the other day. So good. So they're loving it and everything's good. So we're back in New York. We're doing it. Doesn't take away from the fact that the show is just not that great guys. Oh.

Yeah. Did you like this episode, Steph? Okay. here's what I'll say. Go for it. I liked how it looked. Okay. I got, I, I am having such a hard time not like throwing my hands into my forehead every

five minutes on certain choices and things that the characters are doing. Yep. And then right when I was like, okay, let's go. Credits. Yeah. And I, and then I looked at it was 30 minutes. It was a 30 minute episode. and I was, I just like,

I think that it would have been smarter just for how the show's going. I don't know if they could have known how it would have been received if they made, like drop two episodes. Because I feel like it is just catching its momentum. I did like it better.

I do think it, the pace is better. There was more interesting things happening, but I'm still finding myself, you know I'm character first. That's all movies, shows I watch. I'm there for the characters and the dialogue between them.

I think that there was some, Yord actually is coming around for me. I actually like him. Speak for yourself. I like him better than other people right now. But yeah, there was still parts where I just, it was like face palm every 30 seconds. Mike, you hated this.

Why? I hate it. I don't know, man. I don't know what to say. Like I went on, you know, yesterday online. And there's certain Star Wars sites that I'd like to follow. And yesterday morning, guys, I've seen episode four, prepared to have your minds blown tonight.

On what show? On what show? What's up? On what show? A guy that had 250,000 followers in Star Wars. No, no, no, no. I'm saying, I'm saying, no, no, I watched the episode. What did I miss?

I was asking you on what show were they talking about? Your mind last night, Star Wars fans that are the hardcore Star Wars fans, what about that episode blew our Star Wars minds? It was a half hour of, it was like Lord of the Rings light. All right, we're going to trek through the woods and a line. like we'll talk about something later in this and I know we talk about it and if you're going to say something in a trailer that sets the whole tone for the show we're going to watch the episode we're going to see the show unfolding okay let's see how they deal with this and that's how they

dealt with it and I was like you you doubled down on it yeah of it not making sense well I mean that was the thing is I still don't really understand why all the Jedi went into hiding I still don't understand why receding hairline bad old makeup did the poison you know I still don't understand why the wookie went into hiding I don't and it could be explained it just hasn't really

been yet of why they all went into hiding those four or those three in particular because because Saldon go into hiding he's out and you know just running around and part of the council so what happened are we going to find out maybe we will the 30 minutes

normally bothers me it didn't as much because they told the story they were going to, but I just, as I was doing the reaction itself, is the thing that got me was, this is just, they're setting it up for predicting the witch being the, the Sith Lord,

which would be so stupid if they do that, or setting it up that the, you know, the bumbling sidekick hung in the tree is actually, yeah, that he's the actual Sith. Either way, don't do that. It's so, there's so many predictable choices in this.

And there is, and people, I saw a couple of comments, going, every time Christian says CW meets young adult, you never really explains it and I don't understand what he means. And it's like, how do you not know what I mean? When you look at this show and you look at the tone,

there's this one thing with Daphne Keene, and she shows up and she says something about the wookie or something, the dialogue and the way that it plays and it's kind of, the two of them sitting in the, on the ship together, having this conversation and it just plays like this young adult feel that you would see on the CW network

when it was in its prime. it was like that kind of tone. And then there's other times where like, okay, they're going, like, you see the wookie kind of slid open or, you know, with the lightsaber thing. And it's like, okay, that's a dark moment. Why aren't we sticking with that type of tone?

But it's these moments of like, okay, she knows that she has to go. She decided a while ago that once she saw her sister that she was going to turn good. And then she now, now she doesn't have the interest to help out the sith lord anymore. So I'm going to still walk into the cabin. And here I am.

I see the dead wookie. and now here's everybody who's coming to hunt me. And instead of saying, hey, I got set up here, they already killed it. They already killed the Wookiee. Nah, I'm just going to pretend and not say anything at all and just sit in the cabin and you guys can tell. Oh, wait, no, there's the other witch Sith Lord. Go fight her now. And it's like it just plays kind of predictable and dull.

Yeah, I just, I'm having such a hard time not nitpicking everything. It's just every choice, I think. I see what they were trying to do. I just don't like the execution. Even with the first when we meet the Badger Tracker, I was like, what was the point of that? And then Harry said, oh, he's obviously going to do something later. And I was like, yeah, but, and then we see him do something later.

But the way he was introduced was just so me. Yeah. And then we see the wookie. We are introduced to the wookie in the beginning. And then we just see him dead. And I was like, so what's the point? of showing us that scene. I don't know.

I'm just like questioning everything. It's not nitpicky. It's one of these things of like why you're asking the questions because you're not, you're not locked into it. You're not invested enough into it and you're not and it's not like, okay. Because I said every time now when I talk to people about this show and I was like, you said it yourself stuff last week, they are their aiming right at you, at you, particular.

Yeah. And they missed you by a mile. I know. I just. I'm so upset for women and POC in Star Wars because I don't think it has anything to do with diversity. I really don't. I just think the story is bad. And it's not, there's a poor execution.

And also there's some questions with the lore too, which is disappointing that someone who seems like a fan of Star Wars is kind of mingling with the easy. lore part of it all. And so I'm just kind of I yeah, I'm just worried about the future of Star Wars and what they're going to do from here. Well, I mean, that's a, I think it's a longer conversation that we could probably have after we go through the, this, you know, the show itself is that where do you go from this? Because you're going to skeleton crew next. And will skeleton crew be something different? Will it add and change the tone in the way that Mike brings up the Marvel stuff all the time where Deadpool can be a hit for them, but it's not about just Deadpool. They've got to have Captain America hit.

They've got to have Thunderbolt hit. They've got to have people hit to get back to that place. And Star Wars isn't even worse shape than they've got to figure out more so of what they're going to do to just tell. What story do they want to tell? Where is it going to go? How do you get everybody back on board with it? Because, you know, this isn't just about people screaming and yelling to hate things anymore.

This is a lot of people who normally like the Star Wars. War stuff ain't like in this show. Go ahead, Mike. This is the first episode, Steph you just kind of said it for me. This was the first episode of a Star Wars show where I've seen that a lot of the, you know, we talked last time about there's the two camps. Yeah. On the far sides and then there's in the middle where I was kind of like, I see some

things. Now like the one scene we talk about like Basil, that tracker character. The line of dialogue was like, oh, who is he they? Are they? But it's like, just say, who are they? Are they with us? Like say they had to make and it stood out and you're just like. So when people talk about and I get it, they both sides and one's louder than the other.

But when the writing is on the nose like that like, oh, is he they with us? And it's just like, just say they. Are they with us? And like, oh, that's the tracker. So it was like so on the nose. It's just like. Yeah, it was on the nose. Yeah.

They don't need that. The audience is smart enough. We got it. Yeah. It was on the nose. And it's also one of the things. So why give people, why give people, you know, ammo? You know, it's like, because you can still add to the story.

No, you can do it, you can do it in a way that it makes it. It's not like, you know, it's basically to do it to say, hey, look what we just did. Exactly. And I think I finally saw some of the side of the Star Wars people fandom that are like, stop doing this. Stop shoveling it. I was like, it's right. It was so blatant. Like, be smarter than that.

Right. If you're going to write it and you're going to do it. Be smarter. Yeah, you just said it right. you do it, but do it smarter. Don't take a bat and go, how you like that? It's been political and everything.

Right. Always been there. Right. But it's like, yeah, smart. It's almost like I felt like after they said it, that, because I think it was, I think it was a mandala that said it,

that she was going to look at the camera and go, huh? And it was like, because it's so, it was just like, where'd that come from? It's like, so. It stands out. Yeah.

I don't know. Steph, Did you feel the same there? Did you say it did not? I did think it definitely gave me pause where it felt, uh, yeah, I think they could have just said they and he that character could have just been they and that could have been the rest of it. Right.

But they, it was definitely to make a point. And I think that a lot of I can, what I can't empathize with is the pitchforks and being like stop like forcing these. Because I really don't think these writers are sitting down being like, let's force an agenda. I think they are putting forward the best. story that they want to put forward. But then there's those moments where I do think it is like, well, we are so we are allies, so let's show it.

And as opposed to just like letting it flow. Let's let it flow. Yeah, a better way to. And just an prime example is I think if they executed the story differently, everyone would have been like, I love this cast. Right. I love, you know, I don't think, I think it would have shut down. lot of the haters that are like, see, go, well, go broke, because they're, these are great actors

if you see them in other things. It would make those, it would make those voices loud, but the, but, but the minority because they, you know, but the problem is that right, you have so many people who just don't like the show that it's like, yeah, see, see? It's the easiest thing to pick to. Yeah. You gave fuel of the fire with that. You're giving fuel of the fire because you're not making a good show.

If you make like a really, I mean, and I think I can't, I think Roka or. or one of the audience members brought it up the other day on the show is that you forget on and or a lesbian couple. And it just, it's just, just, just, just, just, there was? Yeah. And it, it's, it, it's just who they are. Just who they are. It's just existing in the world.

Just who they are. And it's, and it's one of these. And it, but it, because like you said, Mike, it's like, you, it just, you, you didn't remember because it was just, you know, it's just who they are. And, and it was one of those things where I think that the story itself did, you know, did that hurt the, you know, did that hurt the, you know, actual story no no but as Steph said and as Mike said you just gonna go give pause and go oh oh oh and again when you're creating a world and again I could care less if there's fire

and could not care less because if you could care less could care less you could care less you could sit in the corner and care less and then come back not care less that there's fire in space right I don't care there's always fire in me out of the story right don't make me go what okay where were we again like right just invest me um so what I'd like to do here is go through a couple things in the actual show itself when you start. And when we do, this is what happens. All right. So we start and we go to Kofar, which I was curious why we didn't go to Kishik.

And I then I thought about it. And I was like, well, Chubakas, you know, what 300 years old or whatever? Mike, how was Chubaka? Oh, don't start. Oh, come on. You wouldn't know that. You thought you thought you would know. Well, okay.

So in solo, he was like 87. So. Is that true? I think so. Yeah. Or 100. Yeah. He thinks like, oh, you look great for 87.

I think there's the line in the movie. So maybe he wasn't alive yet. Okay, well, either way. I thought they were going to go to Kashik. I don't think he's alive yet. All right, take it easy. So they go to Khafar and you see, you know, the wookie, he's doing his thing in his little shed and he's making chicken soup. And then you go to Khorasant, and once we get to Khorisant, there's more of the training.

It looks very clean. This is where we see this. I want to know more about this red beard guy. I like this guy. Did he do a Jedi? Yeah, he's great. He's kind of like hard-nosed and he's got like a Game of Thrones kind of character. Like what's his deal?

He's from The Witcher. Oh, is he? Yeah, yeah, I really like that actor. I was excited to see him. I liked that scene. I did like that scene. I want to see what's happening with this guy. Like, who is he?

Like, are they going to do a little bit more with him? Because he's definitely a little bit more stern. I had a more kind of like the Game of Thrones kind of feel to him. And then he's training and there's Daphne Keene. And so, and then have you turned a little bit? bit more on OSHA or you're still kind of like, OSHA stinks. Steph. I hate her.

I really, when she's like, if I can't do it, can you make sure you take my sister down? It's just the most treasonous, untwin BS. It really, I haven't been this upset about a character in a long time. Why are we, also, why is she asking Yord as of, I know she's known Yord forever?

Why not ask Taphne Kien? Or soul, I guess soul wants to keep her. But like, it just is, you don't, in all of these years, question, maybe she didn't explode an entire rock cave by burning a single book. Right. Why is she going after the, all the, it just like there is, even if she thinks that there would be room at least 2% for questioning. And that 2% would be enough not to want to take your sister down and not forgive her. Yeah, there are a lot of questions like that that I don't know with four episodes in the can already, with four episodes left or whatever it is, with 35, 40-minute episodes in general,

with all of these questions of why did, you know, receding hairline, old age, bad makeup, why did he take the potion? Why did the wookie run away? Why does, what happened here with the fire? Are they going to answer all of these questions in the question? course of four episodes. Go ahead, Mike. Right. Do we know why May is killing the Jedi? No? No, we don't. That's another question. What the fuck? Sorry. Well, easy. What are we doing, people? Yeah, we still don't know yet because you guys are saying these things. I'm like, wait a minute. But if she burned the stone temple down with the fire? Right. She killed the Jedi or killed everyone

in the temple. Why is she killing the Jedi? Well, I think it seems not. Does it make, we're halfway through. We should know something by now. What it seems like in the conversation. that she had, it seems like, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like they were like, okay, she thought the whole reason she was off and the Sith was able to get her to do this was because she thought the Jedi actually stole her sister and then her sister died. Her sister was gone because, or maybe died in the fire. I don't know. Because she, the whole reason she just says, no, I don't want to do this anymore,

because she found out that OSHA is indeed alive now. So then she just stopped. And I also don't really understand why she didn't, after she saw OSHA in the first place, go, oh, she's alive, I'm not going to do this again. It's like she... Right. I have so many questions like that where, first of all, my first instinct is to question why I'm rooting for May to kill Jedi. Second off, my question is all of these characters keep flipping, like, their entire view of life and belief system within minutes.

And I know that obviously it had to happen in the course of time. and maybe she was setting up Khairmir the entire time. And she probably, I mean, she kind of said that. But I, I, I, there's so many questions like that. Like, Kymir knows Master Soul's name. I don't think Soul gave his name up. Why is Soul the only one that's like still living in peace and not in hiding? He's all the way out in the open.

Right. So there's still, there's, that's what I mean. There's still know, there's, there's a lot of questions. And Roker brought this up on Monday and I'm still going to. say he's not wrong that you still have four episodes left to say okay all those questions that we had were answered it's true i am doubtful because of what i said where you have 35 to 40 minute episodes four episodes left and a lot of questions every episode keep popping up and you know we'll go into the whole who we think the Sith is again in just a second here but it's it's

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Okay. Jackie. So Jackie and O'Sher are talking. And I do like Daphne Kean's character a lot. I do. I do. She's one of my favorite. Soul's my favorite. She's second for me. They have this conversation. And I did, look, I think Steph said it up top. and what I will agree with is I like the, I like the locations. I like the,

the ship looked pretty cool with the, almost like that tie fighter kind of type design that they show up to when they first arrive on, on the planet, both May and, and what's Manny, Mani's character's name? I don't know, and I don't remember. Hi, I don't know how you remember all these characters names

because they're so forgettable to me as far as the character names. But then they have, they land there, but I'll say the location, the music, even though I wish there were some familiar themes in there. Those are some of the positives thus far. But you've got, they show up to this planet, and then, you know, they part.

I always wonder why they park so far away from where they need to go. But they go ahead, Mike. No, that's my same thing. And then I know people are like, well, the tracker had to get on the ground to track it. Well, throw him down there with the Jedi and say, hey, when you get there, let us know, we'll fly on in. Right. Give us the, give us the, give us the feet a hundred miles away. Then they're doing Lord of the Rings.

I'm tracking through them. And I get Lord of the Rings. Why didn't you fly there? They just had the Eagles. I get it. But here you're in a starship. Hover over the ground. Yeah.

Give us the exact coordinates. Would you please, Bob? That's why we pay you the money. Stuff like that. Yeah. These episodes, I'm like, Christ. Yeah, it is. It really, it's just detail.

It's just detail. Like when you go, Steph, did you watch, um, House of the Dragon? No. Okay. But like, I know that you're not like the biggest fan of the show, but like the... It's excellent. It's too heartbreaking.

I understand. This last episode would smash your heart into a thousand pieces. But the detail in that show. Yeah, it's excellent. It's excellent. The detail in that show, the detail that I'm watching in Dark Matter right now. It's like detail, detail, detail, detail, just put detail in it. There's no detail in this show.

Like, Mike's nitpicky, we know that. But I think he's spot on the money here. It's like you have this advanced technology. Put the droid in the forest and tell us where to go. make us walk we want to do that we'll go to the gym so yeah anyway so they go and they they again they have all their bags they talk about it they you know there's a little bit more where it seems like there's a possibility that the witch and manny are working together or manny is indeed could be the sith lord doing the Kaiser sozee who knows or he could be the acolyte right and then there's it's and

and the other thing that is i think that i'm bored with is how gosh darn freaking dull the Jedi are you get this scene where they're standing around and they're talking about like she might be who is this

oh wait she's got an apprentice a master an apprentice an apprentice doesn't know the master and what is happening and it's like holy that's what no sex will do to you but I

I I what is also bugging me is I've seen comments that are like you don't understand they're trying to describe how the Jedi, the start of the folly of the Jedi. And I do understand that that's what they're trying to do. What I don't agree with is the fact that we got that in the prequels. This is 100 years before.

I don't think that they have to start like this. I think that they can, they could have been cool at this point. Exactly. Exactly. Everything with the blinding of the Jedi was in Phantom Menace. The hubris. They were not going to train this. We did this already.

We're not rescuing slaves. We're not there for this. And it showed their downfall, which was the start of this. This should have been them at their prime. Like, we are badass. We know what we're doing. Right. And you make it, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's

like him. I like him. I like her. Those, those, those, those, those, but like, but there's no. I mean, and we'll see what the red, the red hair, the red hair barbarian's going to do. I'm going to say this. Jackie to me, when we first met Asoka. Right.

The young kind of spunky Jedi. So I'm just like, it's these, and I guess I know Star Wars is littered with tropes. I know that. But you got to chart new stuff sometimes. Like, yeah, no, it's repeated. We've seen, we've seen this already. We've seen them sitting around the thing going, oh, I don't know, I don't know. It's like, you're supposed to be the Jedi.

And it's like, and it's like, and then people were so excited for this High Republic Jedi, who I don't know her name either. You remember her name, Steph? I don't like her. The green one? Venestri. No. Yeah.

Valnezzar. Dull. I'm going to say this. So dull. The writing or what, but I'll never, and all those shows we've ever done, I will never say I don't like a character based on the actor. Because I get actors make choices and it's, but I don't know if it's the acting with her or the character,

but that is the one character I do not like with a passion on the show. It's the conversation, it's so, one-known. Apparently she was on some other show, and everyone says she's really good, but this show, it's like she's playing a Jedi. Like what she thinks in her mind of what a Jedi is the stoic. I'm going to talk softly and very, and it's like you're playing what you've seen Jedi be in the past. You need to create your own thing. Yeah, it's another Jedi that it's just like, this is one of the master's Jedi.

It's right over her head on everything that's going on. And she has this conversation with Saul. Yeah, it's just this whole conversation. It should be like, give me something about why people love her so much in the book. Show me. Right? And I'm just like, next scene, please. I don't care about this scene now.

And I'm like, there's soul and I like, and he is my favorite character. I'm like, eh, and the scene, I care, I guess, because of the soul. And I'm like, yeah, all right, now go to the woods. And so we just, you know, we get past it. There's more conversations that they have this long kind of thing that they're talking about. And you don't really get that she's as respected as. you know, they want her to be. But you get, then we go back to the planet and there's more of the conversation.

This, by the way, there was one moment in, as May and, um, gave me manny's name again. I forgot it again. A chimere. Sure. And they're walking through the forest and he has one thing of, she has something, he asks her something. And he says something along the lines of like, so tell me about that Jedi. You know, oh, so it's interesting that the Jedi did this.

And then he just stops. He goes, all right, anyway, let's move along. It's like, all right, sure, show me some of the exposition. Yeah, show me. And then it's just like, it's so weirdly paced in how they do it when they're walking through the woods. And it's either it's, you know, he's involved in this thing somehow, right? He's right. Somehow.

Go ahead. Yeah, I definitely think there's more to his character. Because the definition of acolyte, right, is like a religious, celibate follower trying to act. like see through whatever their path is. So I feel like he could be that. But I also think that there is a chance that he could be the one in the mask. But there is something more to that character or else why are you so invested? Yeah, the only thing that would I would prefer, I mean, if you're going to do it,

then you make him the acolyte. And I think you're right. Because if you're going to make him the Sith Lord, then why does he get himself caught up in the trap? you know it's like yeah let me just swing around swing in the drop oh you got me not really i'll show you later he's laying around in the tree and it's like silly you know if he if he put himself in if he got caught in the tree whatever it might be all right but then it just opens itself up to the thing that i'm really not looking forward to which is going to be the the big reveal of the the the witch the the mother witch because it just we can go we can go there now when if you go back to that episode an

episode three, the whole episode, you have the Zabrak, which who is just not on board with the Jedi, is very stern, has the beliefs, whatever it might be, and has been just adamant that of what she has done to, you know, bring, to help bring these twins into it. So you never see her dying. They don't even put, they don't even give you a, they show the other, they show the other mother laying, Jody, Turner Smith? Yeah. And they show her laying on the floor, they show Oshah very upset about it, and they show her body, okay?

Now, could she also be the witch? I mean, the Sith, I mean, maybe. Also wouldn't love that, but chances are maybe not because you see her body. The other Zabrak, they never even pay attention to it. They don't show a rock fall on her. They don't show anything. And they showed so much time of her, of showing, you know, giving her kind of depth of what her problem.

So the idea that whether she feels that the Sith magic, she studied Sith, whatever it could be, or God forbid that she's the one who brings the Sith back and then taken away the whole Bainlor would drive people bananas. But it's setting it up that it's going to be her. And even when you look at the body type when they show her later and then she stares face

or the Sith goes face to face with, OSHA and doesn't do anything, it's setting it up like this stinks. I think it's mother on Asiah. Okay. But the only question that I have, yeah, I know that if you see the body, that means that's a confirmation.

I don't think this shows following. I don't know. I think that could be a fake out. What I do, but what would confuse me, though, the only reason I have questioned to that is if she is indeed this the the the Sith Lord or whatever we want to call her, then I would be confused as to why she hasn't made herself known to May. Because that would be weird.

So you've been training your daughter this whole time and haven't been like, I'm your mom. Unless you think that, you know, or unless you're planning it out, like you know that that's what's going to happen. She's going to, they're going to find each other. And then the deal is to turn them both and get them both working together, you know, because they have this special purpose and she knows that they do.

It's just such a, it's such a, like, wet fart of a reveal. It's, it really is. It's like, come on,

what are we doing? Like, the whole thing, you kind of set it up. We're going to get the Sith lore. We're going to know this. And then you're making your own kind of adventure of these two twins. And it's like,

what are we doing? I don't know. It's like, but that's me saying that it's already happened. Where they could slap me right in the face. And I would be happy to get slaps. I'd like to see that. Me too.

If they say, hey, guess what, dummy? She did die. And this is some, this is what happens is, this, what happens is, this Sith has been, the whole time playing them, watching them. And the Sith took out all the witches. The Zabrak fought the Sith, lost, died. And we see it in another flashback. And here is this Sith who's just been playing it. We don't know who this Sith is.

Reveal the face. Who the hell is that? Well, let me tell you. and you show you like that to me i'm going okay then now now now i'm now i'm invested because i don't know who that is don't set me up like oh it's this either this or either that and this isn't a murder mystery anymore by the way like we know who we know who did it it's either the sith or we knew and the twins did some of the stuff and like what's the mystery there's no mystery right yeah i don't know so as we and let's i yeah i feel like there could be something cool

if it is a character we've seen before i don't know maybe in Dara because I feel like I still can't get over like showing Carrie Ann Moss as the face of the franchise and then having her in two episodes as a throwaway character that's killed by a

two inch knife. I like that though. I don't know. I don't know if I hate that. You got to explain why. You got to explain why. You got to explain why. You're not wrong. You'd have to explain why.

But I think that could be cool. I like that choice. I think the best because if it's again, if it's a Jedi who's been studying and a Jedi that got infiltrated and a Jedi who set up all this stuff and who wanted to recruit these twins because now if it is Carrie Ann Moss because then it makes more sense of like hey you know the rules Jedi get the kids come on bring them over and because the Sith wanted to train these kids the whole way through and to set it up okay then give me a little bit more there and and because the Sith would infiltrate the Jedi and you know start to corrode it from

from the inside and recruiting Carrie Ann Moss when she was younger or whatever it might be. Okay. All right. They'll set me up. But I don't know. Do you think that's a possibility, Mike? I think that would be the best choice. Right.

Like there's no, there's, this is probably on stupid as all. There's no, in no world is this Palpatine, right? No, it can't be. He's not alive yet. Okay. Not clone. We didn't clone him. He's not at this time.

I mean, now there is a shot that it could be, I think, think it's beyond doubtful, but if depending on what species you made Plagueis, could be, depending on what species make them. So the obvious ones are Zabrek. Yeah. And Anayasaya, mother. And Caryam Moss. And Manny.

Oh, yeah. He's the one I think probably is, but if they do the mother. The Zabrek or Jody Turner's. And Asseya. How did they fit that? element on her with that I mean the Zabrak you said that already no the mother oh okay no I feel like she would

have cut her hair yeah just shaved her head I mean that's easy she's had I mean I could totally understand a complete transformation yeah you could you could that that's okay it takes place yeah never mind yeah I would say for me though um yeah if I'm gonna

my timelines with this whole show I can't keep up yeah well if I'm gonna rank it I'm gonna rank who I think I'm gonna go Zabrack mom is gonna be is number one, Mani, number two, Jody, number three,

Carrie Ann Moss, number four, random number five. And I'm hoping it's either four or five, but I'm going to say it's probably going to be obviously one or two. I think it's Jabrack, even though the helmet wouldn't fit on her.

Yeah. All right. So my point is the fact that, like, if you're going to hide a character, hide the character and make it believable, like Zabbrose. if it's her, which we most think it is. Like, that helmet doesn't fit on you.

You created this cool skin-tight helmet. It's not going to fit on. It's kind of like Leia, like Leia and Return of the Jedi. Let it return of the Jedi. You had no clue that that was her, the way that they built the costume on her. But it reminds me of Black Widow and Taskmaster. They put a dude in a suit. You saw the literal man stunt guy, the whole movie.

And then they take it off and it's a girl. And they see you get her head and it's the skinny little head and his body. It's just like, stop doing. fake if you're going to fake us out make it look believable so we are invested in it i'm wondering i really do wonder if you know i i would be so happy if you like they take off the helmet you're like i have no clue who that is yeah and then the next episode they show you who it is like that to me i'm like okay that sure all right let's get to the next uh next so yeah so then saul reunite to add to step's frustration osha wants to run away again she doesn't

want to be there. She's about to leave, you know, whatever it is. And then Saul gets her to stay. And then there is one scene, though, there's one line though in that scene where she's when it's almost like we still don't, it's another question, but where OSHA goes, oh, you're going to let me back into the Jedi order? Like she wants to come back. Right. And it's like, what did she do? That was so bad. Did she even going to run a chord? What did she? Apparently not. We haven't found out. That's another question. I'm trying. Yeah, that's another question that has to be answered. And I I wish would have been answered earlier because I think it matters to the character's likeability in their arc. Yeah.

Like, what did she do that was so bad that she wants to come back and they won't let her? And he's like, oh, so I can come back. He's like, I don't know. And it's like, what else does she have to do? She's been doing so much to help you guys already. And she shows that she wants to be part of it. What did she do? That was so bad.

Like, I don't get it. Right. Anyway, so there's that conversation, but he's like, I do want you to come with. us she's like oh all right so and then they get on the plane and then there's this made and yeah and then we first meet the the little uh little mussel little muskrat and then um and then yeah there's the conversation about yord and then that is about that's that's about that's the conversation that's about a cw as you get and i was like come on the ship lands they you know they go through it and there's like this whole shot of them and i don't know what it is what they're doing yeah this is the thing that's pissed

stuff off she has the conversation with yord to basically hey, do me a favor because they've been friends, I guess, beforehand, and that's why. No, Yord was like, I'm not doing that. You should figure this out yourself. I know, but that's why I like Yord in this episode, because he's sick of her too. He's like, girl, go to therapy, figure this out because this whole vendetta you have on your family is weird. Yeah. And we don't, and we don't understand.

He doesn't understand why neither we do it. And maybe there is a reason. Maybe there's more to it. Yeah, but you got to explain that in four episodes in like two hours. So they're going through the forest and then they just kill a bird for no reason. It comes flying through the trees. Oh, yeah. That whole scene is like, oh, this is going to be cool.

Yeah, they're all going to wake up. This is going to be awesome. I just one. I thought the same exact thing. I was like, okay, this is kind of classic Star Wars. You know, you have creatures that you have to fight off. So I thought it was going to be the whole forest wakes up. and then not only was it just one

they were like conveniently attracted to light yeah and they kill the they kill it for no reason and aren't the Jedi supposed to be like peaceful that's what I thought he's like I have this and just kill it how do you know that it was bad yeah well maybe soul is what if soul is the bad one but I mean

but look in the idea and the whole the whole idea of remember like the everything they set up in rebels I mean too of the being one with the force and talking to animals and everything. It's like, I understand that if the things are starting to attack you, but why not try to stop it first and just slice it right in half? I was like, whatever was just coming to say, what's up?

You guys got any treats? Right. But then I think that was another point where they were trying to explain the force. And they were, like, Jackie's character had cool lines, but it is different from what my understanding is with life and death and the Jedi. I did like how she was like, you know, it's an honest. to become a part of the force. But it's like, do you just kill at your will because they're going to become a part of the force?

Right. Right. Exactly. Like, hey, you know, don't worry about it. They're in a better place. It's like, yeah. But it was literally just coming to get it. It saw I had a protein bar in my backpack.

It wanted it. It was going to take it to its kids. And now it's dead. Yeah, but it's one with the first. I was hanging out humping this tree. And you've got to come and touch me. Leave you along. I know.

I was just saying, hey, guys, what's going as like a puppy? And then it just, it came to say, hey, what's going on? And he's like, hey, what's going on? And now you're like, I've got this. Hey, guys. Welcome to my planet. Oh, wait, I'm dead. Look at me.

Hey, guys. Here I am. Here I am. And now I'm dead. Sliced in half over a treat. So they go through the forest. And now, you know, once again, we go back to May having our conversation with Manny. And you get a little bit more of the, okay, this is when you get the conversation of,

Okay, this guy is definitely involved in it more. And we just go back to the forest and knowing that something's going down. And then when we go back to the reveal now, to me, seemed abrupt where May goes, hey, I'm a good guy now. And I want to find my sister. You stay in this tree. I'll see you later. And he's like, no, don't leave me in the tree.

And you feel like it's May and, not May. Yeah, May and Mani. I'm almost getting vibes of Palpatine and Anakin in the third movie. Yeah, when they're sitting in the opera. Like he's just playing the thing. And again, if this is it, it's the trope. And it's the, we've been there for again.

Yeah, it reminds me more of the Revenge of the Sith in the beginning when they go to, you know, when they go to rescue him and he's playing like the goofy, like, oh, I don't know what's happening. I don't know. Oh, and he's like, you know, running through the hallways, like that's what it seems like but I would more I would much rather I'm telling you like you could really instead of just doing the normal tropes of like make us all wrong make everyone wrong

who thinks that it's head yes everyone that thinks it's him everyone that thinks is the mom make us all wrong like because if you made it just some random just some random person some random alien something completely different and that it's okay to do you don't have to follow Sid book on this one. You know, you could, it, you can just go completely different and make it, whoa, where the hell did that come from? Instead, it's going to be, like you said, Mike, it's like, there's, it's, it's a, it's no coincidence that he's like, oh no, wait, what did that Jedi do? No, no. And he's like throwing little things, a little hints in there. I guarantee if it's the witch, she's going to take the helmet off, but they're not going to see her take it and go straight off.

It'll be like a shot where they don't see it going over the horns. Yeah, it's going to be like, Okay, here we go. And again, I hope we're wrong. Me too. Me too. It's just some random, badass that infiltrated the witches and the Jedi, and he's like, you have no idea what's coming. Right. Well, a little muskrat then sees, you know, May and starts screaming and saying, hey, yeah, over here.

And we see the dead wookie. And then all hell breaks loose, screaming from the trees. And then the Sith shows up. and this is where when you see you know, we had seen this before and I said

there's this face to face now with her and OSHA and if you look at the body type you say looks to me like this is a smaller statute person. The Sith person.

Yes. Yeah. And it is the helmet's big enough to get those horns in there. I'm just telling you. And if it comes and then then you're going to have to find out

why you're going to have to find out why the that's that's what i'm also concerned about because once we reveal that it's you know the zabraq then you're going to have to do another flashback episode or go you know this is what really happened this is what happened because if episode five starts out with that scene again where now you see soul and osha take off and the fire and everything's burning the you even open with that. You're like, up, here we go. We're getting the reveal that it's the Zabrack because or, or, or Jody. Or do you think there's a possibility?

It could be one of the other witches. I mean, they didn't set it out. The only reason I think so much is it, it's like they gave, if you watch that episode, Steph on episode three and you watch how much time they give the Zabrack of her character, of the fact that she's, you know, in the, opening scene getting those kids, she is pissed and does not like the Jedi whatsoever.

She is adamant about the fact that the way that she helped create the kids. She looks like animosity against Jody, Turner Smith, for the fact that she wants to do these things and said enough with it. It all is pointing to her going, yeah, right, I'm burning this whole place down, and I'm going to start going the way of the Sith.

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Like this? Yeah, put your face. I want to see the inside of your nostrils. Yeah, try to dive exactly through the camera. Is this better? Much. So we see the trailers. Half the internet goes up in arms because the Sith is there, but the Jedi line of, well, the Sith have been extinct for nearly a millennial.

you. But we're all, we were all like, you know what? Let's wait and see. Let the story tell. Maybe they did see the Sith and those Jedi that saw the Sith got killed. So the Jedi Council didn't know they were Sith. You could tell the story. But what do they do? They put the one Jedi that says that line that knows their Sith. Right. In the damn show. Who? Kiyadi Mundi. Is he in the show? That's him. Yeah. Where? Where's Kadi Muni? When? In that scene with the Jedi, we got to go to the temple and this and this. Oh, that was him? And they know it was him.

Kiyadi Mundi. I didn't even know that was him. They gave the guy. Wow. That says the line. Oh, wow. Like, you could have put Yaddle in there. You could have put Yoda.

You could have put 50 million other Jedi as a cameo in there. But you put the one character that says the line that destroys. And then today there was this uproar because apparently he was born. before this or after this after the wukipedia big star wars website was like in real time deleting it and changing and everyone's screenshoting it they're like oh wow when you've got something like and again this is the two camps who's running this who's running the can't over there you've got bologna out there that's now the kevin foggy of star wars he needs to go you can't do that you can't do that what happened to Pablo hodongo he used to always do that kind of stuff like no oh well actually

you're telling the story no kiati muni didn't do a damn thing in this episode oh wow i didn't even know destroying, like, I don't care that the Sith have been that line in Phantom Menace and we're telling a story. Cool. Show us why the Jedi don't know that they're Sith. But you put the one character that knows their Sith. Right. For a cameo. Like, who, why are they running?

Like, this was the one episode where I saw the, the haters that talk so much. I was like, I see where people are upset with the people in charge of Star Wars now because they're not. They're not paying attention. What they put before. This is what, but this is what I've been saying about even with the book stuff. They don't care about the people, the main people in charge or they don't care enough about it. And they don't think that it really matters when it does. And it's no point of putting him in this episode.

No, there really is. I agree with you. I didn't even know until you said that. I didn't even know that it was, because I guess I maybe didn't even think why would they have him in there? He's not even born yet. I thought, oh, is it just one of the species? Because Plow Koon, his species is in that scene, but it's not him because you see in the credits. But he's actually in the credits.

It is credited Kiyadi Mundi. Yeah. Wow. What do you like that to and again I don't care about canon like I'm not a big canon person as far as Star Wars But why wouldn't you though be because like this this was the first time I've seen as like okay you really don't care about what you're doing It's like it's like it's like it's like you want us to you want us to you want us to care about the history itself and the things that you're setting up you want us to care about the history But you don't care about the history. So why do we care about this is the main star wars like this where you go to get the lore right? They were changing it in real time this morning because everyone's like, nope, this breaks canon.

He's not even born yet. Oh, I didn't even see that. I'm not, how do you, how do you locked into all this stuff? I don't, I wake up when I go on Twitter. Yeah. But like, I love, because there's so many people in Star Wars that are so smart about it and they know all of it. So I like to get there. It's like people, when a DC thing comes out, they reach out to me because they love to see like, oh, what does this character mean?

What does this mean? What is this? And I like to tell people. So you do care about the Canon. Yeah, but the Star Wars people that are so into the can. Like, and I get you need to change. to tell a great story. This is not a great story.

So why you're messing with it? It doesn't. You could have put any Jedi in there other than him. He could have done the whole Sith were extinct for nearly millennia. And it would have been fine. But they put him in it. It doesn't make sense. You're right.

Steph, does this bother you too? I think that is a little negligent. Yeah. It's, and because that character has like two lines in the movie. So how do you oversee see the one of two lines that he had.

Important lines. Important lines. And it does make you go, because the big thing that they were talking about throughout, you know, the lead up to this show is how big of a fan of the lore Leslie Headland was. Well, clearly that. That questions it, doesn't it?

That questions it a bit. It's like, well, not too much. Or she just doesn't care. But I was with you guys. like when they in the trailers that you know we were always like well the set jed Jedi think the Sithr extinct and i's like oh that's their hubris we're going to understand how they slip by them i was like on board up until this point i was like okay tell us the story you're telling and at the end of it explain why they but oh no the one guy that doesn't said it you're putting him in can i play

a devil's advocate though with this because what if this never this never this never what if they don't get out of the woods what if they never get out of the woods maybe What if they never get out of this and they don't get back to the council and it just becomes a, you know, I'm hunting you down now. Somebody's going to, someone's going to eat it. And the chances of that are slim to none. But if that happens and they don't get back to the council, if they go back to the council, then all of what we're just talking about just now is relevant and it's silly. But if they don't get back to the council and everybody starts getting picked off like, you know, 1987 predator here, then then it's like, well, wait a minute, that they wouldn't know about it because everybody's debt. Let's four weeks reconvene on this point. We'll see.

Well, I think you're going to find, I think next week, because if the predictability is as predictable, predictable as it's been going so far, you would assume that the next episode is going to be another throwback. You kind of, this is what really happened type episode. This is who they-

You don't think it's going to pick up where we left off? No, because I think they're going to give you the Sith. I think they're going to give you the Sith, reveal right away in potentially in the in the beginning here but you haven't seen this next episode i haven't i haven't seen it i've only i've only i've only seen one through four um i think that when you get to five you know you you you start off and you but it's not going to be like hey here's the it's it's going to be like this is the episode where you're going to find out who it is and but then

they have to go back to where we left off of this episode yes yeah after that because that would be crazy but that's what i mean it's like they're going to do they're going to give you the reveal to it and then episodes and then episode uh five six is going to be the continuation then you get seven and eight so going off of your playing devil's abdicate let's say the sith wipe out everyone in this mission yeah yeah which i don't think it's going to happen by the way i don't think we're in the jetty constantly go holy crap we lost a battalion of jedi we need to go investigate which brings you a whole other thing right like and then it's an unexplained like we had a an event that happened in our history where 20 Jedi were wiped out on this little planet.

We need to figure out what the fuck's going on. Right. I mean, that would be great if it was like, yeah, they slayed another story. And then you take it over and yeah, and you dump it on. Imagine if they, there's no world, but imagine if they killed all the characters that we, that we just learned about. They killed them all. Except the twins, because the twins are probably taken by the Sith or whatever,

too. But the twins, the twins survive and everybody else dies. Yord and the rest of the crew, they're all dead. We would be, whoa, wait a minute. What happened there? Then you're like, all right, we're playing ball here. So now you got the boredom green, we'll call her. And then Kaira Mundi, he's going to be running around.

He's like, well, yeah, I don't know about anything's happening. It can't be Sith. I'm not even going to think about the Sith. I'll talk about that in a future episode. And they're doing the investigations. But the chances of that happening are slim to none. Slim to none. Slim to none.

Slim to none. I don't know. Look. Because if one Sith Lord or whatever the character's going to be takes out a battalion of Jedi, Jedi needed a new training program immediately. You got the Sith tossed all of them in this last episode, tossed all of them easily. Like Quiguan at least, you know, when Darth Maul popped up, fought them and had a little bit of tough fight with them up top with the, with the saber and then jump back on the ship. but like, but this Sith tossed all of them with no,

with no problem. Like, how did he or she do that? How? Right. I want, like, there's got to be an explanation.

That's why I feel like there's going to be a full. The power of many. The power of two. The power of all of us in me. This is, this is looking bad, guys. This is looking bad. Looking bad.

I don't know. How did we get here? I, it, I'm telling you. I said this. I feel and I know it's never going to happen. I really am trying to... Disney needs to sell Lucasfilm to Apple. It needs to sell it to Apple.

It sucks that. It doesn't suck that I say this. I like to go back and think things. This makes me long for the Star Wars of Book of BovaFet. I'm like, at least in BovaFet. At least we're on Tatooine doing... I don't know about that. I'd watch BobaFet again before I'd watch this show again.

I'm just waiting for Andor, man, at this point, Andrew. Oh, you know what? That, that's, this is where we can end our conversation because the three of us went to celebration. Not the last, not the last one. 22. Yeah, 22. And we went, it was in Anaheim and we went and we had a good time and we had seen, you know,

I think it was the first or two episodes of Obi-1, whatever it was. We were headed back to the hotel and outside of the hotel, we realized that John Watts was standing out there. And so we went up to him. when we started talking to him about skeleton crew. And he seemed very authentic. He seemed very excited. He said, just because, and remember he said this to us, Mike,

he said, just because there's kids in it doesn't mean it's going to be a kid show. He said he wanted to go stranger things meets go goonies. And there's more and more about this amblin feel to it. And John Watts and Mike and I are both big fans of the old man, which he directed that show. And he directed the first episode. And he, of course, did No Way Home and the other Spider-Man. I think that he has an opportunity to turn the Star Wars series around and going,

well, there you go. That's just to me, that's, they did what they did with a, I mean, Andor had a different feel, but this is a little bit more. It's layered. It's got detailed to it. Who saw this coming? Because Andor, we didn't see coming. Andor, we were not excited about that show.

We didn't care about that show at all the shows that were announced. We were like, that one we cared about the least. And it turned out to be the one that we love the most. But, yeah, go ahead. But it's interesting. we talked about this turning around, turning around. And we brought up the Marvel thing. But Marvel did an act of like, whoa, we need to stop.

Right. What we're doing didn't work. Star Wars didn't do that. No, they're still not doing that. And set it out loud. Yeah. And I'll remember, I'll never forget this. Where Fagie came out, I was like, hey, you know what?

We made some mistakes. I remember there was the, everything is awesome crew. I was like, ah, I wish he didn't say that you should celebrate what he's done. No, he's an incredible executive that realized what didn't work. Right. He doesn't need to pat himself on the back of creating a $2 billion franchise. It took a shot. Five that billion dollar franchise.

But like they took a step to go, whoa, it ain't working. Let's redo what we're doing. Let's reassess. Star Wars hasn't done that. So to say that skeleton crew could bring us back, like, I'm like, that's been chugging along. Yeah. They're pumping out the shows. I don't think they think anything's wrong.

I don't know. I mean, the one benefit with all the way that they do this is they don't have, they don't have a plan. They've been doing this since the beginning. They're just like, hey, you, director, do your thing over there in that corner. You do that in your corner. Maybe John Watts is going, hell yeah, I'm going to do my thing in the corner. I'm going to do the thing that I wanted to do. And that's what you hope for.

Because there's not a lot of excitement for this show thus far for a lot of different reasons. One, especially after coming off of this show, there's going to be less excitement for it. But it has an opportunity to do what Andor did. Because when Andor was announced, I remember, you know, you and I talked about it, Mike. I remember being a collier talking about it going, who needs an Andor? show we know what happens when he dies and then you find out like everything about the way that they're presenting it and the way that it's shot and the way that it's the detail in that show is just I mean the stuff that we talk about all the time with that shop with all the old relics in the back

and the political intrigue it grows back to the little thing like I know recently Faloni was out there talking about does there need to be an R-rated Star Wars show and I think people just want that because they want to see sex violence but like and or was like it again Star Wars at it's core for kids. Yeah. But I don't think kids sit down and watch Andor and love it. Like, they're like, like, but that's storytelling, the script. Yeah.

The storytelling. The scene with, you know, Stell and Scarsgarg, tell him about what he's given up. Yeah. Detail. Detail. You can have the bad batch for kids and you can have the Andor for who on a little more, little more, you know, sauce in your Star Wars. And then there could be the Soka, which is satisfying the hardcore that have been there

through the beginning in every episode and they know everything like, but this show, but I'll tell you, dude, I'm not doing any of those. I think the detail is way more in Bad Batch than it was in Asoka. I think the detail is, than it was in Obi-Wan than it was in this show. And you love Bad,

I mean, you love Rebels and Clone Wars. Oh, yeah, rebels and Clone Wars and bad, and so what I, and I still haven't finished Bad Batch, but what I've seen in Bad Batch is that I can tell you about the characters in that show

because they've given enough time to marinate and you understand who they were, who they are, do the things that they do and you care and you're invested. And these other shows are just not doing that. But I cross my fingers for skeleton crew. We will see in the future. But I ask you guys, what did you think of this episode overall?

Did you like the show? Did you not like it? Do you think there are points that you agree with, disagree with? Put all your comments in there. I want to thank the crew for being with us today. Start with Steph. Steph, where can they find you? At Steph Sabraal and the World, Girls.

Mike Kalanowski. How about you, my friend? Same place at Mike Kalanowski. Very easy. So that's it, guys. We did our first New York show together, although you guys are in the, still in sunny California.

But I tell you, this is, I like the way this looks. I like the setup itself. We just got to get Mike a little bit better of a setup, but I'll do that. I'll help you out. And then that's it. So for Mike Kalanowski and Steph Sabraa,

thanks for joining us here today, guys. I really appreciate it. Once again, hit that button, subscribe to the channel. Check out. our wonderful sponsors below i put the link in the description and always the pin comment below so from mike and step on me you're you see you later bye