The Kristian Harloff Show - THE ACOLYTE EPISODE 5 SPOILER REVIEW!!

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

The Acolyte is the latest Star Wars series. Does episode 5 answer questions or leave more to be desired? Does the Sith reveal themselves? Join us for this conversation with Kristian, Mike and Steph. #theacolyte #starwars #sith #jedi #mystery #review

How's it going, everybody? Welcome back. It is the big thing. It is the Sith Council. It is Wednesday. It's our spoiler-heavy review of the Acolyte, episode 5 of season one. Thanks for joining us here today. If you haven't been here before, subscribe to the channel, be part of the conversation. We do a lot of things here, not just the reactions, reviews, all that. I just had a great interview. If you're a stranger things fan, I just interviewed Jamie Campbell Bauer from season four and season five of the show. So make sure you check that out. It was a great interview. The guy is just amazing. He talked about his new movie, Horizon, American Saga Part 1. So you can head on over there and check that out. But we are talking about the Acklead Episode 5. Now, this one already, I did my immediate reaction to it last night. And I went back and I watched it again. And there are some things that I feel differently about, but mostly the same. I saw a lot of comments because I didn't love the episode.

And I saw a lot of comments, people were, I mean, the rational people. There are, of course, there are morons on both sides. and there were a lot of them on both sides last night in the comment section, but there were a lot of very rational people who said, I can't believe you didn't love the episode. I loved it too. And a lot of the things that they were saying I was agreeing with, which was, saber fights, great, action, great, music, great,

featuring a little more on the dark side, great. But it didn't surpass the story that it is just, there's so many choices that are made in the story that are just like, wait, what's happening? So we're going to discuss all of that. I'm pretty sure I know what Mike feels about this episode. Maybe I'm wrong. But I'm curious to hear what Steph says,

because we have been on the same page for the first four episodes, and I wonder how she feels about this one. So when you comment on this one, be one of the rational people, whether you agree or disagree, have a good conversation about it, and we'll get into it. So it's myself, it's Steph Sabra, it's Mike Kalanowski.

Let's do it. Here we go. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. It is the big thing. It's the Sith Council episode. It's the Acolyte, Episode 5. It's myself. Steph Sabraugh.

Mike Kalanowski. We got the whole crew here. So, Steph, how you doing? Hi. I'm good. I'm so excited to talk to both you guys about this one because, man, oh man, I did my immediate reaction last night. And there were a lot of people, like I said,

There are a lot of rational people. A lot of people said, oh, man, like normally I'm on the same page of you do, but I loved this episode. I thought it worked so well. I liked the same thing. I didn't. And there were a lot of people who said I didn't like the first four episodes, but this one really hit. Those are the rational people. Now, of course, I got some people who just love to abuse the word hate.

And I said, oh, you're just a hater to be a hater now. And I was like, no, I'm just giving my opinion on this particular episode. And I said, I just, for the story purposes, don't love it. Then there was this complete idiot who goes, there you go. You want a weed out. the misogynist and racist, here you go. Because I didn't like a Star Wars episode. So I'm a misogynist and racist now.

So you're going to get that. But for the most part, there are people who were, and there are a lot of people who felt the same way I did. I'm going to tell you the positives first. And then I want to hear from Steph. Because I went back and I watched this episode this morning because what I wanted to do is have a fresh head on it after I kind of sat on it. And as I said in the beginning,

the choreography in this is great. I will go back on something I said in the immediate reaction because they don't feel that way. I actually almost feel the opposite. I said it was the worst episode of the five. I don't, yeah, I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. It was just, I was in that state.

I would say it's close, it's close to the best. It's close to the best. It is, it is. I will say that. I remember, this is what comes with the immediate reactions. It's how you're feeling at the moment when you see, I went back and I revisited. It's the best.

It's the best of the five. The fighting, the, the choreography on the show is fantastic. The, um, the idea of finally placing a Sith in there and the fact that he's wiping out Jedi and the fact that they went brutal with it, um, that stuff worked well. The, that was the stuff I said, okay, that I understand what people are talking about. They even used Kylo Ren's music in this. Did you guys hear that at the end? Yeah.

Yeah, they used Kylo Ren's music at the very end of it. Yeah. So there's a lot. Well, I mean, that's a good question too. But there's a lot of things in here that I said worked. But it doesn't change the fact that there is so much silliness and the right. And we're going to get into it with like May at one point at the end of episode four, she decides she wants to be good.

She decides she wants to go back to her sister. And in this one, she's hiding out in the cabin. She's hanging out in the cabin. She then decides she's just going to run around the woods and let people chase her. And then when it comes down to it, she fights the Jedi again. She tries to recruit her sister. She can't. Then she decides she wants to be bad and has a haircut. It's like there's, it's, that's just one of the many different things in this in the story. But Steph, I didn't even get into all of it. But overall, what did you think of this episode? I think it's the best of the episodes. I think it reminded me of the things that I do actually really enjoy about the show. There are a lot of cool aspects. Like I said, if you put like a lot of the things on a Pinterest board of the vibe that they're putting down, I'm into it. Yeah. And I do genuinely love the actors.

I think what they're given, they're doing good work with. And they're, I like the, I like this entire planet that they're filming on. I think it looks really good. I just have never thought so much watching a Star Wars show, but also a show that I'm choosing to watch in recent memory. Like I'm constantly like, why'd they do that? How does that make sense? Like you're second guessing a lot of stuff. Yeah.

I'm just like, why are all like these Jedi are they the worst trained? that I ever? Like, how is this guy so lit? Steph, the reason why, and it was so painfully obvious, and I said it, I'm watching the, when I was doing the reaction, he's killing the extras. He's killing the extras because, you know, we don't know who they are, and all the people that we know are able to fight him.

Daphne King's able to fight him. She's a Padawan. She's able to fight him pretty well until she craps out. Yords's able to fight him. And Saul's able to fight him. Where Saul was in the beginning, he's like taking a dump in the woods. Who knows where he is because he just disappears. But yeah, the other Jedi, it basically what they wanted to show was,

look how devastating this guy is. You don't care about any of these extras. So we're going to show you how menacing he is by the cool deaths, which were they were. They were cool deaths. But they were cool. But I also questioned, like, how does he not have, like, a single weak spot right now? Why are there lightsabers turning off?

And I guess that's because of the metal of his helmet. Yeah. Which, have we ever seen lightsabers turn off? No, he did something with it. They didn't really explain, but maybe they will. But that... Okay. Those are the things that I'm like, I feel like there's space open for me to be like,

okay, I could be on board if you explain it. Like, to me, I guess I'm just not okay with seeing the most powerful person ever and not understanding where they trained, how they trained, like where they got any of this. What's, to be fair, we're only in episode five. So now that he's revealed that we could get that. And it looks like they're... I'm just saying those are the questions going through my head. And so I think on the second watch, I was able to just kind of enjoy more of what they were giving.

But on the first watch, I'm thinking, how is he doing that? And then it's taking me out a little. But it did look really good. And there were really cool aspects of it. Again, OSHA is my least favorite character. The twins are my least favorite right now. It's because it's not their act. It's not Amanda's act.

acting? At all. The twins are not interesting. They're not interesting. It's the character arcs that I just simply can't understand. Yeah. All right.

Mike has been chopping at the bit. I feel like he's a pit bull. He's been just like on a chain. Go ahead, Mike. Well, I like you guys, it's my favorite of the five. Yeah. Easily.

But that says something, the fact that it's probably the least story-driven one. Yeah. So that got to tell you something. But like, story is. key. Like, what's going on here? Like, did you, so you guys

thought that he was able to turn the people's lightsabers off? With his helmet or something. I thought they had problems. It was like a flashlight and they're hitting the batteries. Like, come on. Like, I'm like, well, when did this happen? No, it happened. Because it happened. It happened like twice because it happened with... I know, it happened all the time. I have like three or four people. But was he doing

it? Like, shorting out their sabers or was it just suddenly because the script needed them to have their lightsabers down. They're like, oh, it doesn't work. No, I think it was it looked like it was part of the clash. Okay, then he's got this helmet that can deflect lightsabers because he's headbutton, which looks cool because the stunt team probably is like, you know it would be cool if he head butts it.

That's going to be cool. But they don't talk and go, hey, we never again seek any kind of armor that deflects against lightsabers that the Sith have, so probably we shouldn't do that. It's like this thing is like all like little cool pieces what people want to do,

but they never talk and go, you know what? We're part of a tapestry that we got to make sure, like wouldn't the Sith know when they create Vader? Like, hey, man, remember this guy 100, years ago he had armor that could defeat sabers so let's in case vader and this kind of stuff right right right and it's true right like like to me we'll get into it but the freaky friday the parent trap of this episode where this the Jedi are trained to oh don't don't even bring it don't even bring it up yet

because it's it's going to be such a long part of the conversation it's there you know i was you know what bugged me yeah this every single episode for five episodes we're an osha run osha don't Ohsha, come. OSHA, stop. Citizen to the ship. What? The fuck did that? Citizen to the ship.

What the fuck are you talking about? Where did that come from? For what reason? OSHA, the whole five episodes, and now it's citizen to the ship. What? They made no fucking sense. These writers suck.

Saul's running in the woods. They're all running everywhere. Well, that was, they're not all attacking it once. No, here's a thing. Wait, wait. Hold on, wait, stick with that because it's a good point you made. It's a good point you made. It's a good point you made.

I want to stay this. We don't lose it. It's a good point. So when you start in that scene where you start the show where, you know, May comes out and sees all the, or Oshas, he sees all the saber fights happening and we zoom in and he's fighting all of the Jedi. Because so what are we supposed to believe that he pushed Saul so far back into the woods that soul is now nowhere to be seen while they're all fighting him and they're all going after. I mean, he's wiping them all out. Souls nowhere to be seen. Yord is, you know, doing on a boat. Who knows? Why? Because they're the powerful ones that they've got to shoot at the actors.

Yes, yes. And I can't have them in there. But here's the thing that did it better. And I hate to do this from this to that. Like, Lucas, when they said, when they went, the Jedi went to get Palpatine. And they were like, you know what? You're under arrest. And he just destroyed them.

Every Jedi in that room, we had met before in the previous film. So we knew who they were. So when they were killed instantly, like, not Plow Coom, but. but um, uh, got Sacy Teen and all those guys. We saw the four of them before. We knew who they were. So when they died, we're like, oh shit, this is tough. So these Jedi were like, it doesn't matter.

But then again, Star Wars needs to pick. The Disney era of Star Wars needs to pick. Is a lightsaber through the stomach going to kill you? Right. Or are you going to be able to heal? Because for when, um, old rebels chick, um, Sabina, yeah, up, you're okay. And Riva.

Riva too, yeah. Riva, but several Jedi. And I'm not talking. I'm not talking Jackie. She got the triple tap. But several of Jedi just got a lightsaber in the stomach or something. So what are we doing? You guys need to get on the same page and go, all right, this is a lightsaber that I can kill you.

Here won't kill you. You got to figure it out. I think it's rules. It's rules from all the way around. Like even there's a moment. Establish it. Yeah. And we'll go through the pictures and we'll just talk about so we can stay like in chronological order.

But like there was a particular moment that stood out to me was where their, they have this battle and when Obi-1 was fighting Darth Mall, you know, and granted he wasn't disarmed, but when he was fighting him, he flipped up, sliced him in half, threw him down a thing, right? They were going after, whoever they were going after, whatever Sith it was, if someone dropped their saber, if they disarmed him, well, then they would kill. They'd be able to kill them because they were fighting them with a weapon, and then they disarmed them. It's like, you're not supposed to kill a disarmed Sith. I just disarmed him.

Now I'm going to kill him because he killed everyone that I'm with. And then, and OSHA's like, Saul, no. What are you talking about? Kill the guy. Oh my God. Oh, my God. That I actually blacked that out. I actually blacked out that moment because that was.

Kill him. What do you, what do you mean? He just massacred everyone. All crew. And now all of a sudden, OSHA has a conscious that I've never, like out of all the things that character has shown different. aspects of herself. Never one has been like saving. Like if we saw her like trying to save someone before that like needed redemption, like her sister doesn't count because that's her sister.

That's not the same thing to me. But in that moment, this is like the most dangerous person I've ever kind of seen on screen of Star Wars. She just wiped out a whole platoon of Jedi. Right. And you have the moment to kill him and you just are like, no, don't. It made no sense. But it wasn't, he wasn't, they're like, oh, well, he's disarmed and you, you don't, Jedi won't kill disarmed. He wasn't just sitting around having coffee. He was, he was. His body is a weapon.

He was, but he was just disarmed by Saul. They were in a fight and he dropped the same. Kill him. Take him out. And then figure out later. Plus the fact. And then we'll get into the whole idea of like, all right. So you're true.

He says, he literally says, Darth, no. name is what I guess we'll call him because he says he don't have a name. So Darth no name says, I'm a Sith, I'm this, I had, now you know who I am, you brought her along, so now I got to kill everybody and he says it as much, right? So first of all, if you're trying to protect your identity, why do you say that in front of people when they're right there, right? He's talking to whoever, is there, I think that, I think at that point, Yord shows up in the same thing. It's like you're, You're revealing everything now. What Saul gets away and fake May or May is with him.

And then you got the little shit rat running around the place too. And all these people are, they know. No one makes a phone call now and says, hey, call Yoda. Call someone, the Sith are back. No one makes that. That's the first call you make. Not where is May? Where is OSHA?

It's holy shit, the Sith are back. I got to call somebody at the temple. you know why they didn't do that because it would kill what they're trying to do which is this i don't know but like they don't want the jedi to know that the sith they're around anymore so well we can't it's it's it's logic script logic that doesn't make sense but they're changing things and not doing logical things that people would do because it doesn't fit what they need in the story and it sucks well that's what was driving me nuts is like when smart writers can do what they need to do yeah i was it was driving me nuts like when I was, people,

everyone was like, what are you talking about? It's the greatest episode ever. And, and I, and I said, but what I was saying was, I'm like, look, and I, and, and I've responded to that. If people love this episode, then great. And I'm, and, and maybe, and someone even wrote it in the comments. They were so starved because Star Wars, for some reason, has been so negligent with lightsaber battles and they haven't had lightsaber battles. So when you finally get to see them and you see a Sith fighting Jedi, of course that's fun. Of course that's great. And it's done very well in the, episode, like really, really well. The choreography is some of the best choreography we've seen in a very

long time in Star Wars, and it should get its props. But it, again, should not negate the fact that there's all these ridiculous plot things that are going on throughout the entire episode. And, I mean, even with, let's start with, if we show some of these pictures, right? Because if we go right from the beginning and we see that we, of course, have, you know, OSHA, she's outside of the thing, She sees all the saber fights going on, and she rushes over to see all the extras get killed. But they're showing you through great choreography. Look at how powerful this guy owes. That is what this is establishing.

It's look how powerful he is. And he's got cool deaths. He does some really great stuff. And he's able to throw two people on a saver at one time. He's got his arms. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah, his arms are jacked up. He's like, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,

He's the threat. He's a threat. And I thought Mani Kanes did a really good job as a villain, even though predictable that we knew it was going to happen. I will say, yeah, go ahead. I will, I'll say a couple things. Like Mani Jekinto, is it, the last name? But like, I didn't care of him up into this point,

but now seeing the reveal and seeing how good he was in this episode, I get what he was doing in his earlier episode. Yeah, he was doing the Kaiser Soze. But, but I wasn't, but I love the fact that, like, last episode, he was lugging a big bag around with, them like didn't just like oh we're just going to have them appear as the bad guy because they made they they put the seeds there that if it were to turn out that way you see where it could have happened so i appreciate it what they didn't do like a the witch girl with the horns like take her

helmet off i know i thought it was coming i thought it was coming but so i was cool with that and i he was the best part of that episode i thought acting wise yeah he's great yeah he was good like you know we talk about when we say it's one of the reasons why i don't like venestra or ventrestra she's to me playing what she thinks a Jedi is where she's very soft and very stoic where he didn't play what he thinks of Sith is he just was himself as an actor He looked pissed off, it looked pissed off hurt

But it was like there was a history But he wasn't doing what we've seen with Sith in the past In playing what he thinks a Sith bad guy is He brought his own character to it And it made it genuine I agree I thought he was great I thought he was great and I thought there's some There were a couple of lines

I think Steph said it great before that it's not it's not the actor It's the kind of the dialogue that they're given because there were a couple times, come on, you didn't know it was me? It's like, what? What do you mean? Why would she know it was you?

And the same, like, the same thing that he says to Saul at one point. He's like, you don't know who I am? How would I know you are? You had a helmet on the whole time. How am I going to know who you are? And like, there's a couple lines, but it's not him. He is really good in it. And I agree with you, Mike.

He plays it in a way that it's not like, oh, this is how he thinks he's trying to be evil. Right. Look at him. He's trying to be evil. He's not. He's just the, There are, he is a pissed off dude.

And I did like, what I will say about the story because I'm intrigued. Yes, there's a little bit more mystery now again, but we have more episodes. What the hell did Saul get himself into? Because clearly Saul has a history with this dude where he said, you know, because he says to him, he's like, what kind of master doesn't show his face to his pupil? And he goes, you would know or something along those lines. He's like, okay. And he said, do you have a dark history? And I've embraced my darkness.

Have you? That stuff worked. There's stuff. Like I said, it wasn't a complete, like, wet fart. It was just like a matter of, like, there were certain things that you're like, oh, it did make me realize, though, and this is what I said earlier, did you really need the twins in this show? You could have done a whole series with Daphne Keene and Saul and, you know, and the history between Saul and whoever Mani Kintoe's character turns out to be. and that's the story with the master and the apprentice

and then you could have Daphne Kane playing all those moments that the twins are playing right now and imagine if she also died how tragic that would be because you'd have more time with her. You make a good point because I'm thinking back and again we've got three episodes left. It almost seemed like the whole witch thing didn't matter. Yet.

They just, right, that's what I'm saying. But I don't see, again, we got three episodes like, what are we going to do in these three episodes now? She said that he has the same powers as her mom. Right. So I feel like it has to tie in or else it's like where did you learn that? That doesn't make like that's the stuff that I'm, I'm eager to see because when they pitch the show, I thought it was going to be a kind of more from the perspective of the dark side in seeing how they built up the power. So maybe we get that in the second half, but it's like, uh, that's a.

what I'm saying with this episode. It's like, I'm questioning these moments because I'm like, damn, I want to know that in a good way. But it's like, why did we take this long to get to this character who seems like the most interesting character on the screen? Yeah. And I think that there is still a possibility. I mean, look, the Sith are always trying to maneuver past their master. That's the whole point of the Sith and the Rule of Two is that there's one that has the power and then there's the other who craves it. Right. Now, what Manny says to this one, point is he says, I'm looking for an apprentice. I'm looking for an accolade. Now, that doesn't mean that he's not the apprentice. Right. He very well could be the apprentice to where I still

would not get, would get my unfortunate wish of the Zabrak being the master. You think? Right. I don't think that that's the case. But if it is, I wouldn't be surprised in the writing right now that, you know, that's, that is what is going down. But nonetheless, if we jump back to the scenes here. We see all the fighting that's going down with, she sees it in the woods. And as we said, we get the powerful Sith,

who is just wreck and shop. And it is a big fight battle. But there's a couple times throughout the fights where it's like, okay, he's in the middle of these fights and he's killing people. And then he just runs away. And he comes back and he's like, oh, here I am again, peekaboo.

And that happens like a handful of times, you know, where it just like seems there's these big fights and finally it's like okay well there's Saul we got Saul he's back and now we'll really get into it because it's like

this back and forth stuff where a couple different look the throw with the lightsaber was fantastic and then you get like the fake trees fall over and you know and there's one shot where you just get like the face you betrayed me and it's like you're so there you're like almost there

and then you jump into this other scene and this thing drove me nuts. There's a couple different things, but the one thing that drove me nuts, here's this guy, he's been wiping out Jedi like it's nothing. And he just kills,

he kills Yord, he just kills Jackie, he, this guy, he's one of the most brutal things we've seen in a long time. And OSHA, who is barely trained in the force,

sticks a robot light in his back. And he, Oh, oh. And then all the birds pick him up in the sky. And it was ridiculous. Like, oh, what are you doing? What are you doing? Like, did you guys, Seth, did you find that scene silly or did it not bother you?

It only bothered me. It didn't bother me that much. What bothered me was that I feel like it came after when OSHA said, don't kill him, right? Because he's unarmed. Right. I think. And so my, I just think, obviously, you have to keep him a lot.

because we have three more episodes. So I understand that. But this guy's so powerful. Like, I just would have rather the choice of letting him leave on his own volition. Yes. And then you guys get you, you reconvene. They wanted, they wanted OSHA to have something to do. Right.

And that's, and then, and that's the other thing. So, all right. So the Sith can't sense OSHA coming, which he senses all these other sabres at his head. He senses everything else. He can't sense a robot to the. the back of the neck, right? And then, you know, you got that. Then OSHA shoots May, May goes down with, you know, when you had the stunner, right?

So she goes up, but she pops up two minutes later, whatever it might be. And then May shoots at Seoul, who's been battling a Sith, doesn't sense the blaster, goes down and is out for like, which seems like five nights of parting in Vegas. He's out for like four, four days. And he's out. And you get like this, it's just like certain moments like that. And then we, I mean, I don't care if we're jumping all over the place at this point because then you get the fact that you've got to have the sensing is the most powerfully. He senses, soul senses the Sith. He knows he's like, oh, I know, I can, there's something familiar about you.

But he can't sense when May cuts her hair off and has a witch tattoo on her face and he doesn't know that it's her? What are we doing? I'm hoping that maybe he does. And he's just kind of, and he's, and he's, and he's not clever enough for that stuff. No way.

But would you be forgiving, Mike, if it turns out that's what it was. I don't. At this point, guys, like, it would have, like we're talking about the writing and whatnot. Now, back to last episode real quick,

someone made a point. The writer of the last episode was on Twitter, answering questions. And they had said, you know, Kiyadi Mundi, that was an interesting choice. Why? And they're like, well, we wanted Yoda in there.

But Lucasfilm said the puppet or whatever's busy, so we couldn't. So we put Chiadi Mooney. Like, I'm like, okay, we're going to get to that somehow. But anyway, like, we're, so they're all dead. They're leaving the planet. You know what, irked the shit out of me? They're leaving. Saul looks at the, at the trees, like, and gets on the ship.

You didn't bring the bodies? All your dead friend. 100%, all of them. They're all laying around. And this to me. When I say we've got the two camps of Star Wars, the Disney people ruined it, everything is awesome. The everything is awesome crowd that is last night, all off, best episode ever. If you didn't like, like, how do you guys as fans of Star Wars that love the lore go, wow, that Jedi left all his brothers and sisters just in this fucking forest?

Right. Don't get pissed at that. And it wasn't like, and they're right. That was a blatant like bullshit. And it wasn't like, it's not one of these things where like, well, there's, there's 17, you know, really powerful people who are out in the woods and they're there. hunting us. We got to get out of here. If it's one guy, then confront him again and get your bodies out of there. I thought the same thing. You got all these, and he just let, because the last scene, one of the last scenes is where Darth nobody is, is walking through and he's just walking

over the bodies. And it's like, you just left because you left your there, you left Jackie there, you left everybody there. It was like, it's there. Like, what? Yeah, it's really, really, like that was, yeah, I'm with you, Mike. I felt the same way. I'm like, how do you leave? It wasn't like they were, we got out of here. We'll bring reinforcements. We'll come back and we'll take help. No, they were just casually strolling. Well, we lost. Lost the game. That sucks. Yeah, get the two guys that are playing chess on the way back. You get those two guys and say, hey, yeah, guys. Help me out here. I got some bodies we need to bring to the ship here. You guys have been slapping your balls around the whole time, you know, playing chess while we're

like losing everybody. And nobody even looks over and says, hey, where is everybody else? They go, oh, you know. People when you left here, what happened? Checkmate. And then you get the shit rat who they didn't even ask where he was. Like, they didn't even, if he didn't didn't sneak back under the ship they would have left without him. Right. He's like sniffing underwear or whatever he's doing on his way and his way in. And he's like, and he's the one that figures all this stuff out. He knows.

He knows. Something's different here. Something stinks in Denver. Something stinks in Denver. I'll tell you what doesn't stink in Denver. Nerd armor. And I told you guys about this. Like I was contacted by nerd armor and look at this.

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and Jedi versus Sith in a freaking forest and I'm losing my mind and it almost makes me think and I asked the question of both you guys should they maybe even started with something like this you know like where they're like

within the first episode if I was rewriting this thing like I said I would get rid of the twins I would make the story about Daphne King I would put her as the main lead with her and soul that would be it would almost

be like Quigon and Obi-Wan. And it's all about them and it's still this dark history that Saul has and the training and the idea of who Jackie is and you really make it all about her. And then the idea of what is happening. There is a murder mystery. Because if you can have an actual murder, there's no murder mystery. You know right away it's May and the Sith. They're planning together.

What's the murder mystery? The murder mystery would be like right away when you see it, These two Jedi have to investigate the murder. It's like, Jacasa, what's her name? The one you don't like, Mike? Venestra. Venestra. Venestra sends the two of the mount and says,

a Jedi has been murdered. We need you guys to figure it out. And it's an investigation with the two of them, like true detective. And they're doing it the whole time. And in that we start to find out the darkness that's in Seoul. And there's more to it. The Sith is running around.

And the Sith is trying to, you know, whether the Sith is trying to recruit Jackie or whatever Sith is trying to do. This is trying to infiltrate and follow the rule of two and bring this Darth Bain. And it's like there. They have it in this story somewhere. But I just don't think that the,

what's the point of the twins right now, Steph? Do you think that the twins are serving something to this story? I can understand what their intention is. It's just the way it's landing isn't working for me. Yeah. And so I just feel like at the end of the day, I'm like getting tired of myself complaining. And I feel like maybe I'm on the side of like the people who didn't like Andor. And I just said like it's not for you.

And I just feel like the show's just not for me. And maybe I'm just not seeing it how it's. I don't know. Like I feel like I don't know how to deal. Yeah. I don't know how to deal. I hate being a hater. But you're not a hater.

You're not a hater. You're just not enjoying it. That's the difference. Yeah, I just, I don't like not having fun with things. And I, I, I just think that there was so much, so many good intentions played to this show. But just like a lot of, it's just not working for me. And so, yeah, the fights are really cool. Obviously, I love fight scenes in any type of show, especially Star Wars. but when I don't care about the characters which have said is the most important thing to me

then it's not it's not hitting the way it's supposed to right Mike I cared more about when Doris Vader went through in the obi one series the episode I loved when he's going through the streets and like randomly kill civilians from their houses I don't need to know those characters but like that really worked for me because they're not Jedi Right. I know what you mean. Mike? It's interesting for me. We're talking five episodes in now. And I'm thinking back to the other Star Wars shows.

And like this, we all agree that lightsaber stuff was awesome. But that was the stunt team and the stunt coordinator, maybe even a second unit director that did all that. Right. We haven't had an episode this season where I've like, remember with Mandelaar and we're like, oh, man, Debra Chow, get her to direct something.

Because their episode wowed us. Bryce Dallas Howard, holy, she nailed this, put her in charge of a season. series. Like, I haven't seen one episode where this from like, man, this person, whoever they were, nailed this. I'd like to see this person do fight choreography. I'll tell you that.

No, the stunt team, whoever did it, I'm sure that's their, like, and maybe the director that he was stunt coordinator that got moved up to director for this episode. And maybe that's why this one is so great. I don't know. I'd have to look that up. If that's the case, awesome. Like when, like a David Leach that was a stunt director coordinator, went up to the second unit director became a director.

Right. Chad Klaus. He's got a stunt background. It played off in spades because that was awesome. Yeah. But again, that's not a story. That's not, if your story, if the meat of the story is not good, then the side items are kind of like, yeah, they were good,

but it's not fulfilling because it's not the story. It's just like the choices that some of them make. And I'm like, what's going on here? Like, I still don't know at this point what the story's about. Yeah, I mean, I don't agree. Let's talk about, let's talk about May wanted to kill Jedi. That she said, no. I don't know what, let's say on May, because I don't understand what she's doing.

I don't understand. Like, at the end of the fourth episode or during it, she decides to put Darth nobody into a trap and he falls for it. Now, whether or not he falls for it on purpose or whatever, I'll, you give that a pass. He gets caught in a tree and he's hanging upside. Yep. And he's hanging upside down or whatever he's doing. And it's fine. But she says, I don't want to do this.

I want to be with my sister. The time has come. I don't want to do this anymore. And we're like, oh, okay, she's going to have the face turn we thought she was going to have. So she's hiding in this shed the whole time, watching. She never, she never says, hey, guys, listen, I didn't do this. I know that I'm, you know, guilty of a lot of this other stuff, but I've had a change of heart here.

Even when Jackie comes into seers, she doesn't say it just fights her, puts a blade to her neck, does anything, and then she just wants to see her sister. So she tries to see her sister at the end. Sister doesn't want anything and do with her. So she says, okay, well then I'm going to cut my hair off and now I'm going to get back in good graces with dark nobody. So I'm going to go kill Saul. It's like, it's like bipolar almost.

It's like, I don't know, I don't know what it is. Like what, like, yeah. Yeah. I have no idea. what her new motivation is because it seemed as though when she said that I want to be with my sister that she was no longer killing the Jedi

so then why go on the ship but then she did have ample opportunity to kill Seoul so I do because he had his back turned walking in front of her most of the time so I think that there's probably I hope there's more to that like maybe she's trying to infiltrate

in a different way right Or, yeah, I've The turn then. Last episode, she was like, Nope, I'm done. I don't like this. I want to do this anymore.

Right. And I, like, what do you? Yeah, there's like, there's just a lot. There's a lot of different. It's just you don't understand really what is happening, you know? And then there's, there's just a lot of conflicting things. And as Steph said, we don't know yet with this one,

but we should hopefully find out why. Man, he's doing what he's doing. And I will say that, and here's a question for both you. I think that the most emotional moment for me in this episode was when Jackie died. And I was asking myself, though, do I care because they developed her well and I really like Jackie? Or do I like Daphne King? Right. And I feel it was the latter.

I feel it was because they just didn't give her enough. every time she was in it, thought she was great. She just didn't have anything to do. And then she finally has something to do this episode. They kill her off. Yeah, come I? I'm torn because, and again, I'm just going off of what is given to me. In the very first episode, we meet Jackie.

She's training in the temple, A, B, C, with my stick Jedi skills. And now she's open on Kenobi-level Clone Wars awesome. Like, that's what she gave us. When we first met her, she's in there, and the, temple. I don't know how to do this master. Learn. You'll learn. You'll learn, you'll learn the Padawan. Right. Three episodes later, which is a couple days or whatever, and she's Obi-Wan Kenobi level. Or even Asoka. Even Asoka. Show her at the beginning when we first meet her. She's the badass in that

class. And he's like, whoa, easy. She's like, no, she's like, you're very skilled, but be humble. And she's like, but, and like, show the humble, show a Jedi that's like badass and like, settle down, little one. Well, but that's my point is that if you get it, They showed were being this novice. They gave more time to the twins who I think are not as interesting as Jackie was. I think Jackie is pretty interesting. And the other. Or if you're going to focus on all of them, and this was my major issue when you do 36-minute episodes,

and that's if this is 36, I think it's like 27 after all the credits and everything, too. If you're going to do, this is what I said to people in the beginning, I'm concerned with shorter episodes. I'm like, why? These other shows do it. I'm like, yeah, but when Star Wars or Marvel or DC or whoever it is has to put all these big action things and big fights like this, the whole episode is a fight. And then you get little pieces of the dialogue and the little pieces of the dialogue and some of the things they were telling the story.

Furthered the story with Manny when he was like, well, you know, there's something with him and Saul. And we got that. We understand that. There's a little bit more there. But when you only have 26 minutes, you can't develop an attachment. You just can't. It just goes so quick that by the time. And then even Yord, who Yord had more to do than Jackie did.

And I never really liked Yord. So when Yord went, the one thing I'll give Yord is that he wasn't a puss. Yord any single time, he was only like, oh, I don't know if I should fight. He was taking, he was taking Osh out because Sol told him to. and he was doing the right Jedi, the thing Jedi Master says, you got to do this. He's like, I got to go and I got to do this

and I got to do it with me. But then he realizes, all right, I got to go back and fight. And he jumped right into the fight in honorable death. So I'll get props to your net side. Didn't love the character, but I get props to him.

See, no, seeing his full story ended, I did like him now as a character. And again, this is what the actor did with it. He was something different in the Jedi that we haven't seen. He wasn't a cocky guy, but he was. Yes, he was. He was a little cocky guy. No, really.

He was just like, this is what I do. Hard ass, maybe. Maybe you're right. There's a difference between being cocky and being confident. That guy was confident what he could do. I think you're right. And he showed up, did what he had to do, but when you needed to, he was like, you're right. We've got to do this.

Like, I liked him as a character and the death made sense. Yeah. So he, like this, his episode, I'm like, yeah, everything about him worked for me. He was redeemed a little bit more in my eyes, but it doesn't change the fact that when he got his neck cracked, I wasn't, I wasn't like, oh, oh, man. Right. It was like, okay, yeah, because he just didn't want to test it. And that's the other thing. This is my favorite comment that I saw.

Someone on the reaction said, when are you going to realize that Star Wars is just for kids? So the dialogue, it's just for kids. I was like, murder through the chest and cracking necks are for kids. Since when? That's the default of anyone that, when you have an argument, like, you've got to remember, this is space wizards and laser swords. It's for kids.

I get it. It's fairy tales and stories, but that doesn't, Okay. Yeah, but there was a tone that they set. Comic books are for kids too, but we got the Joker. Right. They set a tone. They set a tone.

They set the tone and we're going along for the ride on the tone. Yeah, it's like that that episode last night was not made for kids. It was a dark episode where people were dying left and right and brutally. And brutally. And I got their heads cut off. We didn't see it. Right. It was off camera, but they're still getting their heads cut off.

It was brutal. And, you know, and I will say, you know, they were trying to dupe you a little bit with the reveal of the, of the witch because there is that line of, oh, my mom used to do that. And then you're like, oh, okay, so I guess this means that here comes the reveal of the Zabrak. And they didn't do that. But it was, we talked about this last week on the Vegas betting odds.

If you were going to go and you're going to say, right, who's going to be the Sith? It's going to either be, I would have put the number one as the Zabrak. Most people, most people had the review, nobody was surprised when it was this guy. No, who was surprised? I would have more surprised it was Carrienne Moss and I was hoping, I was hoping, but didn't turn out to big. But I did think that Managing Kinto did an absolutely incredible job as the villain, got his arms all jacked up.

So I think he's going to, I mean, he, he, he, he, he, I believed him when he was fighting. I believed him when he was delivering his lines, whether they were good lines or bad lines. I still believed him. So again, there were some positives. Yeah, I just want to know. more about him. Like he is so interesting. So I'd like to see where he trained or who he trained under, like who was originally his master. Did he have one? And just more about him. But I also can't not talk about again the opportunity for OSHA to talk to her twin after years and years apart.

Right. And like not giving her even the space to communicate. and I don't are we gonna are we just assuming now that she did start the fire because like physically that doesn't make sense still in a rock cave for a book to start this fire or are we going to get to that and if we do get to that then why didn't she just say it to her yeah why didn't she just say I didn't actually I'm I don't know how the fire started that big all I did was burn the book like you should ask the Jedi so like I was just like screaming at the screen like if you didn't do that then say it but if you did then but I need you guys to communicate more true and just jump

and then why does OSHA care so much about the Jedi and then she left it like I need to know that too I don't think she left though stuff I don't think she left because you remember that scene in the last one where and they don't they didn't explain this either but when

when Saul was like I need you to come with me and she's like can I join you I can join order again? And he's like, I don't know about that. Okay, so then even if, yeah, that's true. So that's the case. Then why are you dick riding so hard for the Jedi

when they didn't even want you, but your sister, your twin, the person you shared a womb with wants to be your best friend and your family and you're like, but the Jedi, they didn't want you, girl. They don't want you. Yeah, I mean, there's

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Check it out. All right. Wrapping up or just kind of come into the last of the conversations. First of all, there's anything that we kind of missed on because with a 26 minute episode or whatever it was, covering the majority of the fight, we covered Yor's death, we covered Jackie's death, covered all the extras deaths. And someone had mentioned that.

that too. So how come you don't think, because Obi-Wan was able to fight a Sith, how come Jackie couldn't do it? Because these were the two that were fighting, and they were, in prequels, we were established that particular way. If there were a whole bunch of Jedi, like a ton of Jedi fighting against Darth Maul at that point, you would assume they would all take them out, right? Right. From the way that they had set that up, that it seems that way. This Sith is battling experienced Jedi, we assume, otherwise why do you bring them on the mission? and then you have the Padawan who's not as experienced as the rest of those Jedi

who's holding court way better than those Jedi did. And that was my overall point. I'm like, how is the Padawan doing just as good? If the Padawan would have just, if there was no other, if the extra extras, the Jedi weren't there, and the first battle was Jackie versus him.

I'm like, whoa, look at Jackie Goh. She can hold her own. And there's no comparison to the more experienced Jedi there. You just assume that the more experienced Jedi will do just as good, if not better. Because they're more experienced Jedi. And I... It goes back to the first episode

because they're showing her in the... Right, right. Show her be a badass and go, like, Master, I'm better than... I want to see her in battle. I'm so good at this. Right. We'll settle down.

She's like in like proving herself how better she is than all these people. It would have been a cool little character thing that we haven't seen in a paddle on. Like this kind of like almost... I don't want to say arrogance like Anakin, but like, you know, and her having to...

battle that like because she wants to be a Jedi and she needs to go in this way but it just because it's definitely keen it's the lead they have to go rid of the extras yeah i mean that was that was it was clear it was it was clear as day that's what they were doing it's like and then it doesn't make sense for his line where he kills her and solace is like but she was just a child she was kicking my ass pal you damn right i did it number one hey numb nuts you're the one that's child on his mission right she was she was kicking my ass uh stephanie follow up on that I agree. I just, uh, she was sick. She, like, her fight scene was my favorite portion of the episode. She is so cool. But I didn't even think about her introduction because I just am trying to give this show as much leeway as possible. But that is an excellent point. She is a novice with, with Steph. It's like, we can only judge the show on what we're given. Right. And that's what we were given. Right. And that's what we were given. Right. It's true.

So it's going against what they gave us. Three episodes ago, which in time-wise is probably a couple days. But it's also now, now the question is kind of where it goes from here because. Who knows? Well, I know. But from what you just said, Mike, of what they have given us, right? Yeah. Now, let's benefit of the doubt and crossing fingers of what Steph said.

You want to hope that Saul knows something's up. He's just going to get May somewhere. they're going to arrest her try to figure it out. Okay, the shit rat knew it was you the whole time. I knew it was you. And now take us to this guy. And it seems like that dark nobody wants to turn, you know, OSHA, which would be a good twist if it turned out that OSHA is ultimately the one

who goes down the dark side and becomes the acolyte. Okay, great. That's ultimately looks like where they're trying to go with this. and if they do that and they start to go down that path, but the question in between of all that is, do they make that phone call and say, hey, guess what? Well, we just figured out Jedi Temple, what we have going on. Or does the whole ship blow up and all the technology to call people doesn't work?

Because that's all that people are asking. How do they not know that the Sith have been extinct for a millennia? Well, how do they not know about what just went down? Everybody has to die, right? You would assume. Right. That's the only, like, I thought Saul was going to die because of that. Because we talked about that last week where we're like, everyone has to die.

And then everyone was dying. Right. And then when Saul was getting defeated for a second, I was like, okay, that like makes sense. The twins will just be alive and that I understand them not reporting back. But then he survived. So obviously there's more to do with his character. and I hope that it's a rewarding find. Yeah, and how at this point,

and let's say they do make a phone call, which they shouldn't, but if they do, and wait, and here's another thing. So in the prequels, Anakin is, who knows how far away he is on Tatooine

from Corrissan when shit's going down, right? When he's killing sand people and all that, and Yodah's taking a nap and he wakes up and he goes, oh, something just went down. when all these Jedi are getting killed left and right during Order 66, Yoda feels it.

Where's Yoda? In the Bahamas? What's he doing? Where is he? How does he not? Yeah, they're yaddleing it up. All the Jedi at the temple not go, ooh. Right.

How do they not feel something is going on? It's like all of those Jedi, no one senses it. No one senses it. It's like the whole point is that they could sense these things and no one like Yoda literally like clutches himself when he felt all that death and there's more of it right here and it's just aniken killing storm sand people that was at that point of it right that was that one yeah yeah it it's like there's they're not paying attention to like you said mike what came before them what again if you're playing in that sandbox you've got to know the limits of your sandbox you've got to understand like all right these are the parameters we're in like they I thought for for a lot when they said we're going to tell this story of the accolade i thought they were going to go so far before this that they wouldn't have to worry about anything that came before like we are in an area that we don't need to deal with we're going to be you know we'll tell the story and a wrap up in a way that nothing had like

there was the Sith they appeared they took care of everyone that went to find them and then it was that yeah i mean we don't know what happened well i didn't i don't mind the time period i really don't mind the time period that much because i i just it's it is all it's execution and that's why I truly do understand when people were saying, like on my immediate reaction, like, how do you, this had so much, this had everything we wanted in Star Wars. It had the fighting. It had the lightsabers. It had the music.

It had all this stuff. How do you not like it? And I understand where you can get caught up in that. I really do. And I understand it because you're like, that's what I want to see in Star Wars for the longest time. They weren't doing it. And we got to see that.

What the hell are you talking about, Harlow? You boomer. I get it. I understand it. But it is so hard. hard for me to say, how do you overlook all these story points of all these things that are going on that have not made, and I saw people going, I hated the first four episodes, but the fifth one was great.

I'm like, yeah, but all, but the first four is the reason that I felt the same way I did in the fifth when I was watching and going, this story makes sense. A lot of times when writers get into an IP or whatever, or the book writers that want to play in the sandbox, they want to dive into the lore and make sure it's like, oh, I'm going to do this and it's going to connect to this. And because Star Wars fans love those deep cuts. They love the, oh, man, that reference to this and this. But this seems like it doesn't care.

It's just telling the story he wants to tell and disregard. And I can see Kathleen Kennedy, you're ever going, don't worry about that. Tell the story you want to tell. Yeah, definitely. But like you said with Gilroy, he wanted to tell the story he wanted to tell. But he had people going, yep, no, do this because that'll connect to this. It seems like where. Okay, that works.

Where's Foloni at this? I don't know. And I and when you say I think he's busy well he's busy on his movie. But when you also say that thing about the the fact Yoda wasn't available, the puppet wasn't available, it's like make him available. Find out a time to make him available. And this is, and by the way, this is the, it looks orange here,

but it's actually, it's red. Oh, that's so cool. It's just, I mean, I love this thing. I really do. Yeah, that's awesome. And you can hear like the sound effect on it too. You change it up. You change all that stuff.

Anyway, sorry. I just, I love it. I love it. It is dope. You know, it's funny. as much as I didn't care for Assoca or, you know, but a lot of what we talk about with Bal and

Shin and stuff, Bealin and Shin, we were never like, oh, this goes against this. No, they felt they felt like they fit in there. Dude, I loved them. They were just abandoned in the last episode. They were great. They were some of the, they were great. The two of them. That's not contradicting anything. No.

It's still kind of in it. No, the characters. But that that is another problem, though. Those characters were probably the two most interesting characters in all of the damn series and then they were just abandoned and the last episode like i think they were in five minutes of the finale or something along the lines like that and it's like it's a constant thing it's a constant thing so you know and it's and once again to the inevitable comments that are coming in when you are looking at something with a critical eye and how you are looking at it it doesn't mean

that you are hating like it means that you're just not enjoying something hating is something is a very, very vicious word, and it is an irresponsible word when you're throwing it out there to say something along those lines too. And I saw it a couple times in my thing. It's like, you're a hater, you're this. I'm like, no, I just didn't like the episode.

And if you, and that was, why do you keep watching Star Wars if you don't like this show? Because I don't like this show, I should stop watching Star Wars in general. What kind of logic is that? That's weird. You're kind of a weird person to say that.

Yeah. Yeah. But this is overall, the other side of that is, if you liked this episode and you contradict everything that we just said, that's awesome. Yeah. That's great. I'm so glad they enjoyed it. I'm so good you got you, as where Steph, it's painting Steph.

It is, she's in pain that she doesn't like this show. She is in pain that she does. She is the most positive person that I know and does not like to talk shit about anybody. or anything, but she's honest. She's not a hater. She's being honest. And she doesn't want to, she wants, she wants to be loving this show and she wants to tell Mike

and I how crazy we are. But she can't. And in this particular instance, there are other people who can. So do it and tell us in the comments, but be respectful. There are tons of people in the comments yesterday. I'd say 80% would say,

and I loved it. I saw tons of people who were like, listen, sometimes I'm, most times I'm on board with you. not this time man i love this episode and here's why do that all day but stop calling names and stop being in your in your high horse with your freaking you know your generation thing that you're doing like oh here's another guy who's just doing us oh blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah it's like just stop stop typing and take a nap take a nap is like very good advice thank you um anyway we did it we did the we did the spoiler review here

And I'm hoping, look, I'm with you, Steph. I, because there was enough things here, and as I said, I went back on what I said in the immediate reaction. It's definitely the better of the five episodes after doing the rewatch on it. And there are things inside of it that I can say, fingers crossed, that they can put some stuff together. You need longer episodes. You got to, you got to decide what the hell you want to do in this show. But I don't know. Mike, can they come back from this?

Do you think? in your opinion for you. I'm going off of what we've been given in the past and they never stick the landing. Okay. They never go, yep, that wrapped up in a satisfying way. You're just kind of like, oh, like you said with Baylon and Shin. Oh.

This kind of wrapped their story up. Right. Okay. Like, I don't know what the story is at this point. What's the plot? What are we doing? What are we trying to solve? And you don't think we can get there in the next episode to give you a little bit more.

But what are we trying to get to? I can't answer that. Right. To answer if we're going to get there. Steph? I think we're going to get there? I know you're hoping that we get there, but do you think we're going to get there? Um, maybe, maybe.

They do three hour long episodes, Sands credits. Maybe we get there. Maybe we get there. No, because I do think that. If we're doing three more 27 minute episodes, no way. It's going to be too tough. I think that there is this helpful air of, um, I want to gotcha at the end where they're holding a lot of things and I think they want to have that ending land.

So in that sense, I'm like, maybe it does land because it feels like that's what they're going for. You know how it's going to end? Oh, should be in bad? Saul dies. Yeah. Kiadi Mundi looks to the other people that know, he goes, okay, this can never be known. Not another word of spoken of this. Then the credits go up.

That's it. I guarantee that's how it's going to end. That solves. Kiyadi Mundi, saying the line. and it wraps it up in a way that's not very satisfying. That's what's going to happen. I hope you're wrong. Me too.

Anyway, all right, well, tell you. This is a nice, nice episode. So what, overall, Stephsabre on the world, girls. Mike? At Mike Klanowski. Easy. And we ask you guys, see this right here? Not this, but this?

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