The Kristian Harloff Show - THE ACOLYTE EPISODE 6 SPOILER REVIEW!

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

The Acolyte is the latest Star Wars series. Does episode 6 continue where the last left off? Does the story start to flow together more? Join us for this conversation with Kristian and Mike. #theacolyte #starwars #sith #jedi #mystery #review 

How's it going, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. It is the Sith Council edition as we do our spoiler review slash discussion of the Ackleight episode six streaming on Disney Plus. So thanks for joining us here today. Unfortunately, Steph couldn't be with us. It's myself and Mike Kalanowski. So enjoy. Anyway, we have a lot to talk about where we're going to see. I haven't spoken to Mike about what he thought of this episode thus far. You guys saw my out of my immediate reaction. You guys saw my reaction to the episode in general. So we'll carry that over here today. If you're brand new to the channel, you've never been here before. Hit that button, man, subscribe to the channel. We get so much going on here, whether it's reactions, reviews, trailer reactions,

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Let's do it. It's myself. It's Mike Kalanowski. Here we go. How's going, everybody? Welcome back to the big thing. It is myself and Mike Kalanowski. we are reviewing, talking, discussing.

Ackley, episode six. Mike, I did my reaction to it last night, and I didn't know, you know, as I said last week, going into it, who knows anymore we're going to get with this show, right? You just don't know. I will tell you this, and I don't know where you stand, but there's still a lot, and we'll talk about it. There's a lot of problems, a lot of issues with the show as itself, but nothing new that It hasn't already presented as far as the problems, the tone. I still don't understand why the twins are the focus of this show at all.

But I will say this. This episode, to me, was the most intriguing. They finally kind of dove into the Sith stuff. And Mani, to me, is the star of this show now, after two episodes, really liked what he was doing. He's not playing it overly like, look how angry I am. Look how angry I am. It's his manipulation through what the,

dark side is and trying to convert OSHA to the dark side. I liked what he was doing. I liked that element of the show, but what say you? I'm just more of the same. I think I don't know.

Maybe this just the show is not for me. I don't know. Like I was kind of, I think he's great in the role, but I'm also like, I feel like this is Kylo Ren 2.0. You see, I don't, I don't See, I was worried about that, but I don't feel like it is.

You think he was as angry? Not as angry, though. The angsty, shirt off, sexy sit. Well, that thing, yeah. That was unnecessary, that whole thing with the watch. She looked at his hog, by the way. She looked at his hog once. If you look at it, there was, look at what?

She looked at his hog. Of course. Like, when you, when she walked, hog. When, when he walked out, you look, you look at that scene for a split second. She was like this. Yeah. Hey, look, good for her. Yeah, good for her. But anyway, all right, so what we'll do, like we always do, is we'll go through the pictures themselves and just kind of recap the episode and see what we think.

And we'll get the comments and all that. And here we go. So as I said, there is a lot in this episode. You're still like, oh, man, people are waking up, falling asleep, waking up again, looking around. And I'm with you more and more, though, about what's the old Republic Jedi's name? The High Republic Jedi's name? Benestra? I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not vibe in the performance, Mike.

I'm not vibe in that performance. That's, it's the one that sticks out for me. Like, it's very wooden. I'm just, yeah. And then you get uppity, Uppity McJetai over there with her, the, the cohort. Yeah, well, that guy has two of them together. That guy, that she's with looks about as much of a Jedi as my accountant. does. Okay, see, I don't want to say it. Like, anytime an actor is, but like, I don't know what's

going on with this episode with this, with this show and the casting. I'm just telling you, usually that guy, if that guy picks up a lightsaber next to me in a fight, I ain't fight next to him. I'll say, you can do my Jedi taxes for me, but you ain't, I'm not fighting with you. I don't get it. I don't know if there's a lot going on like there. I know the Venestra girl is Leslie Headland's partner. Oh, okay. So there was that. But like with him, I'm like, Like, what's going on with? Like, who is this guy? Yeah, well, let's get to some of these pictures.

So here we go. We started out, and OSHA is sleeping. She's taking a nice nap. She doesn't look hurt at all. She was really clean. Her makeup's fine. You know, I guess that while she was sleeping, and he puts some makeup on her.

And then she wakes up and she does this kind of like, the way that she did wake up, though, did look like a very kind of neo waking up out of the Matrix thing, which is kind of cool. But he stitched her up. she walks out, you know, and she sees this cloth, she puts on this outfit, very Ray-esque. And I did think initially this was Octu, but obviously it was not. It was not Actu, and it was indeed what I was told by our mutual friend, PLD, and a lot of other people,

that this was actually, the planet itself is Baldemnik, which was an ocean planet adorned with rocky tropical islands in the Bakofusian system of the, the Orill sector located with the outer rim territories. Now despite the beauty of its giant rock cliffs, pristine beaches, and vast oceans, it was mostly of interest to a lot of the fisher folk, but until there was knowledge of the planet's rich deposits of Cortosis, once fell into the hands of Sith Lords, Darth Denebrus, and Darth Plagueus. So that's maybe Leslie Headland, indeed, taking some of that stuff out there.

but we have, we have, she walks out, we see the planet, I see it in general, like, and it just says unknown planet, so we don't get the actual confirmation. But she's walking around in this kind of like Ray-esque outfit, and then you get, like, these two birds chewing on rocks, and I don't know, she's just staring off and said, well, what's going on? Who's over there? Let me go check and we'll talk to.

What's Mani's name? I don't even know. They didn't even talk. What's his name? Darth what? query that's something with the queue okay well

him and then we get to the now this is to me as I was saying to you before they call him the stranger fine so we'll call him that's what that's what we'll call him in this but so in this episode

yeah the way that I'm going to rank because there was three storylines going on at the same time right there was the stranger and OSHA there was Saul and May and then there was Venestra and the accountant, right? So coming in dead last is Venestra and the accountant.

Dead last. Who cares? We'll talk about the stuff that they do at the end. That is just incredibly mind, this baffling how you look at it. And you're like, wait a minute, these are Jedi. And the stuff with May and Saul, there was. a lot of good stuff there, but there's a lot of frustrating stuff. Like how many times we're going to get Saul almost telling the story of what happened

and then something else happens? Got to save that for episode eight. I know, and that's fine, but stop teasing it. It's like every single thing. I'm about to tell you. Now I'm going to tell you, but you got to listen. And thank God they didn't end it in the way that I thought they were going to end it. But I will say the most intriguing, and there's probably the reason why I liked the episode

because, like I said, those other two storylines I can pick to pieces for sure. but I really enjoyed the stuff that the stranger was doing. And I think that he has stolen the show because I did say it, and I stand by it even more after this, that the show should have been, once again, Jackie and Saul, that's the storyline. Those are the two. It's Quigone and Obi-Wan to where they're doing this true detective,

like murder mystery thing to try to find out what's going on. And the whole time the stranger is trying to recruit Jackie and he gets Jackie on that island he's talking to her and that that's you don't need these twins these twins are bringing nothing to this show they're bringing nothing to this show and I don't care about their story there's nothing

there's nothing intriguing about it I'm curious what the pitch was what Headland went in to pitch Lucasfilm with the story like I don't know unless maybe because they thought maybe the Jackie Saul thing would have been like well we've seen this before so let's see it again

we've seen Seth we've seen Sid I don't know do it We've seen the Ray in Kylo now with the stranger in OSHA. We've seen tons of stuff that's already in this show. I would much rather see. And Daphne Keane, I feel was, I mean, it was a death you're like, no, but it was, she was wasted. She was wasted. And you saw what she did in Logan.

I'll be honest, after watching this series, I think she's a much stronger actor than, Amanda Lestemberg. I think she's a much stronger. and I feel like they didn't utilize her at all. And you could have done that storyline. But anyway, nonetheless, the stuff that they are doing, the reason that I did dig what they, going into the Sith stuff and having that conversation

and peeling back the layers a little bit, which they didn't do in the last episode, which was one of my issues with the episode was we just had a big fight the whole time. They were not a lot of layers. There were some layers in this episode with this particular storyline. Yeah.

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All right, well, let's talk about, so when you get the next, So what happens now is, we're on the ship, and we see the accountant in his Jedi robe, and here is Saul trying to speak with him. This was one of the frustrating things for me. I think that he did a great job, and there's a great scene that he has where he kind of breaks down and he loses it a bit,

and he's kind of, his emotions get the better of him, and he's slamming down. I thought it was great, and I think he's doing a fantastic job in this show for what he's given. but this scene was one of those scenes where I'm like, okay, the first thing you say, the first thing you say is, hey, my whole team was murdered by a Sith, even if you can't break it out, because clearly they heard something because the accountant comes back in and says, well, we didn't get much of it, but we did hear that the whole team was slaughtered. So say a Sith murdered, my whole group. You know why they didn't do that, right?

Why? Writing. I know. They can't say Sith because then in the job. Jedi know that they're Sith and they're not extinct for a millennia. But don't have them get, don't have them get in touch then. I know. We are, but we're in this, the thing that, I guess what frustrates me is that they wanted to do Sith.

They wanted to do this. Jedi, whether you're canon, your legends, your characters ages, I don't give a shit. But you are in a sandbox that has parameters. And now they go through all these little things and hoops to get around the fact that he's not letting him know it's Sith. And he's not going to talk to him because now our. communications are. Right. But you said, yeah, hey, guys, Sith, we're in trouble. Send help now. But that, and if that was, and if they would have left it at that, if they, in this episode, they would have left it at that, then it's like, okay, fine, they're kind of trying to get around it.

But the ending with, with Venestra and the accountant alone, let me tell you that, but we'll get, but we'll get to that in a second. But the, but what we will get to in the positive side of this scene is that once again, Saul is just doing great work. You believe him that he's just completely just... He's tortured. And then the shit rat is running around the joint, you know, sniffing farts or whatever he's doing. And he's... And this little thing knows for some reason he doesn't try to tell Saul.

He just tries to like poke around and then instead of biting or whatever he's doing with his rat teeth, he stomps on her foot later. But we'll get to that. So he's spying on her. and this scene is because you know here's the thing that I'm excited to see

because I feel like this is what they're setting up and I hope they deliver with this they set up in the beginning that May is the bad one OSHA is the good one and then switcheroo

May is going to be the one who learns more about what really happened understands the Jedi goes the Jedi way becomes a good one where OSHA is corrupted and turned

into the acolyte and ultimately becomes the the apprentice of the stranger, right? That's what it looks like where they're going with it. But what I don't understand is why do you then, in episode three, no, four, she, I'm going to turn myself in. I'm turning myself in. I'm not going to do this anymore. I got to be with my sister. And then she walks up and she's going to stab Saul in the back with the night.

That's what I'm saying. two episodes of go, she was like, we're done, I can't do this anymore. Nah, this is wrong. And now I'm going to kill the guy. Like, what is going on? What are we doing? Yeah, it's like, but it gets, the two sabres are there. And she, but she's, this is the, this is why I battled back and forth with this one.

Because then you had the moment of her, okay, we're starting to see a little bit more from May to where she is like, not completely, she couldn't go through with it again still. So this is the. breakdown scene that Saul has and it was a great piece of acting and he's just so challenged by everything going on and we're going to finally hopefully in episode seven learn what the hell this guy has been holding and what kind of problem and then we get the little shit rat running around again and I'm pretty sure he's just taking a dump in a closet somewhere but either way he comes on out and he's now now he's doing like a little funky dance and he steals the iPhone which has been

broken the iPhone robot and and you know he's very excited that he feels. found the iPhone robot. But then we jump back to the planet and we have OSHA and this is where we see the scene. Now, you know, people were complaining about the, you get the Kylo kind of shirt off scene and it's, it's whatever. I can understand. I don't care. Who cares? But it just seems like we just went through this again. Like, yeah, it doesn't, it's, that way, it didn't bother me as much. It was a little, it doesn't bother me. It's, I don't necessarily know if you needed to have, you could have had that same scene not in the water. Um, But I also want to have people stop commenting when they go,

well, this show is clearly just for kids. What kids? What, like, that, that was a, that was, it was a sexualized scene. It wasn't for, it wasn't for a six or eight year old, maybe teenagers, but it's not for a six or eight year old. So let's not, let's not do that because they're clearly trying to go for, like, anytime someone, like, you lose me when you're right, you're talking about a show for kids. this particular show is not meant for kids.

You've got cracked necks, you've got dead people out there. It's a default mechanism that a lot of people, like, if you want to criticize something or something they default to, it's a show, and it's core Star Wars is for kids. It's gone beyond that. It really has. It's just. It's not. And that's also said by people who are not parents.

That's true. I can guarantee you the majority of people who write that, comment do not have kids because i would not let my six-year-old watch this show i wouldn't i let my my 12-year-old watch it but i wouldn't let my six-year-old watch this show and and it's because it's i don't want her seeing those certain images of heads getting cracked and you know the guy with his shirt off in the water she's not going to understand the the the tones of what they're going for but it clearly is meant for that and but it's also less about that inside of this particular scene i didn't it's he's he's floating around in the water

he's doing his little bath. And while he's doing it though, you know, this is why I like this character. He's testing her out. He knows. He's like, yeah, I'll show her the goods. And she, though, she's like, for some reason, wearing the Ray outfit, kind of, I don't

understand why they put her in this outfit. But she grabs the saber. You know, I love this whole thing. He's like, it feels good, doesn't it? Having that in your hand again. And there's the beginning of this relationship between the two of them, this kind of reverse last Jedi Octo thing that was kind of going on, except he wants to train her and he wants to

show her the ways of the dark side. And he realized that May was the wrong choice and OSHA was the one. And she's got, she's in her stance and they have this whole kind of conversation as he starts to manipulate her in that kind of Palpatine Anakin way. You know, and I, and I, I, I dug that. I think I, that's, when I was watching the show, I'm going, okay. Like, as I've said earlier in this episode. Let's say it was Jackie in episode three. They're doing this whole investigation for the murders. And then she starts to get a little bit more corrupted by this dude. And you start to see this. And these are the conversations he's having. And you make it 45 minutes to these, again, 37 minute episodes. You get nothing. You get right as it starts to get going, it's like,

yeah. But what did you feel about the Sith side of it, Mike? Um, I'm just to have a, a very hard time. It's not even a hard time. That's a stupid thing to think about it. Like it just, I'm like him sitting there towards the end, putting his helmet together like Kylo Ren did. The music,

even last episode, Kyle Loren's music popped in. It's just like, I feel like we're back with, remember with Mandalorian every episode or every new show is like, oh, here's an older guy with a young kid tagging him along and then Bobafite did that.

And then Obi-Won did that. The lone cub and wolf thing. Yeah. So now we're doing, the tortured Sith with the young apprentice and trying to get them with the see their sides. It's like, I don't know though. All in the era of the Disney Star Wars era.

Yeah, but I see, I like this. We'll differ on this one because I, I like that they're doing this because there hasn't been enough exploration inside of the Sith this way. This has been, give me a female Sith. Corrupting some. Dude. Change it up. I mean, they do.

I mean, they've done enough of that in, in this show, I think already. But like if you've got, I think for me where, and then that was the other thing that people were saying last week, he never said he was a Sith. The Jedi would call me a Sith. He's following the rule of two. He has a helmet on his head. He's got a Red Sabre.

What are he talking about? When people are like, he never really officially said he was a Sith. It's like, give me a break. He said, if you're going to give me a label, you're going to pretty much call me a Sith. Now, the other pushback to that is that they think that whoever his master might be and will get into that, or whether it was whoever his Jedi master was or whoever his current master is,

PLD had a good theory this morning when I was talking to him, and he said that he thinks that potentially that he was kind of ousted by his Sith master in that he was replaced by Plague's. That was the, that's what PLD said, but I don't know if they're going to, I think that's given the writing to too much credit. You know this way better than I do. Plagas, this character of Plagas that everyone talks about. Yeah.

Has he been introduced anywhere in what is Disney Star Wars canon that they could use this character? Or has he been in Rebels, Clone Wars? Episode three. They mentioned him. They mention him. Yeah. Has he ever seen him? Has he ever shown up?

No. No. All right. He's never shown. I think that is, I don't think they would ever introduce him. I just don't. I just. They should.

But not, I'll be honest with you, though. Now, after six episodes into this show, I don't want to. want him to show up. I don't want him to show up in this show. It's like it's not, it doesn't, it doesn't fit. The, the James Lucerno book of Darth Plague is, but does that count? No, it doesn't. Okay, there you go. No, but the book itself is about as gangster of a story, like, it was like when they pitched as a, we're pitching the Boba Fad show as the gangster soprano story. That book is a gangster and it's dark and it is the, it is the, it is the, it is the, it is the, manipulation and the inner workings of the Sith and how he took Palpatine on and how Palpatine

rose and the one up and the levels and the power of two and the corruption inside of the brain in general of what you're trying to accomplish and how power can override and then right behind just someone else who wants it more. It's a brilliant novel and it's a and it would be it would translate into an absolutely wonderful miniseries and the the tone of it is drastically different than the tone in this show. And I don't think having that character, now granted, they would do it differently. And you know what to remind me up?

I would be worried because in the way that you like the Netflix Daredevil series, right? Loved it. Right. Did you like how Kingpin was in Hawkeye? Right. That's how I feel, I would feel. You would feel less of that because you've got

nothing to base it on. Right. I would be like, oh, no. Oh, no. No, no, no, don't do that. And I don't want to see it. But anyway, it seems like there's a lot more history with what he's got. But as we, yeah, go ahead.

It's interesting because I'm seeing a really interesting thing happened with the fandom of Star Wars that love this show, parallel to what I do. They are inferring so much into every episode. And I feel like this was me, circa 2016, where I spent that entire year defending BVS. and I would make arguments, but I would be inferring things about the character from the comics and the movie, other, like, and people go, Mike, that's great. We're basing this off

of what we're given in the movie of this character of Batman. And I would say, but yeah, we don't understand this. It's like, yeah, that's because you know the character and the history, and it could mean that, but we're not, so for me, all these things that are happening are great that the fans love this stuff, but they're pulling from everything. Oh, Vanessa does this in the High Republic, and that's where she does this.

and cortosis the medal is this and like none of that were given in this show and that's what we have to go off of this show and what's being put to us. So all this stuff that all these Star Wars fans are inferring and that's because we love the, oh, the lore and this and that's like, but there is no lore. That's the trick of what Lucasfilm did with the canon stuff.

I know, but there's no, no, but that's why, no, I agree, but that's ultimately, that's ultimately why I bailed on it, right? Because I was like, because the hardcore Star Wars fan who is reading those books and reading those comments, and everything too. Like, they know. They know so much about that character. They're like, oh, this is amazing.

This is this. It's not put into that series at all. And it's never referred to in any of the things because a lot of the times, whoever the director or writer is, they don't pay attention to that stuff. So it's like, and if they negate it, they're like, oh, yeah, well, it doesn't really count for our show, right? In the same way that I'm always wondering how and what they're going to do with K2SO, it's going to prove a lot for me in the canon side of it,

with and or season two. Because in K2SO, the comic book, they had the two of them meet after this like jailbreak or whatever it happens. And there's these other Jedi that I can't remember who were with them. Not Jedi, but there's not Jedi. But there's some of these two alien species that are with them. And this whole thing that happens. And the way that you can make me go,

okay, you're still paying attention to Canon without it. By the time you start the series, him and K2so have already met. and you don't see the meeting itself. But I feel that they're going to, Tony Gearwood is going to go, hey, do I have to listen to this comic book? Nah, do what you want to do. They don't care.

They don't care. So in the same way that a lot of people were really diving into these books and go, oh, Venestra this, Vanessa this, she did this, she did that. It's great that that elevated it for you. And it you know a little. It's like when I read Catalyst, the book before Rogue One, it elevated Rogue One for me even more so

when I saw it because I knew so much about the history of Krenick and her father and all this stuff. And I knew so much about it. So it elevated it for me. But as I watch it, I'm like, in no world did anybody who's making that movie pay attention or even talk to anybody from that book? Like I know it. It's like it's like it's almost I might as well just made up the story myself and had and had in my head what I thought it was. But it's away from them to make money and sell and sell books. And that's that's that's the big.

business. But I just felt it was a dishonest thing in how they said everything was going to count and everything is going to make it all matter. It doesn't matter in the same way that, you know, the Venestra stuff for these novels don't matter. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We got more to talk about inside of this episode because there was a lot to me, a lot of good stuff that they did with the Sith stuff and we'll get into it. But before we do, I want to tell you, as I tell you each and every episode about our wonderful sponsors, And we got two great ones. You're very familiar with AG1. I've told you about AG1 many times over and Built,

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And I hope you enjoy it. Okay. So as we continue on, now we get the, there's the ship again. We're back to this three-story prong. And now we get. May, who's just kind of doing side-eye views. And this is where I think that I started to get more. Because when the show first started, Mike, I was like,

I kind of like what Amandaa is doing with the performance. And it's kind of becoming less and less for me. Because it's really just eye acting. There's really nothing to the performance, I don't think. And it's just a lot of eye acting. And even when it's Saul who's powering this scene. and it's a good scene where he's just, this guy is just burdened by all this stuff

that we don't yet know, but his emotions coming through and he pulls OSHA, who he thinks OSHA is, pulls OSHA in to give her a hug, and it's like this moment. But then as you look at May, it's just kind of this side eye thing,

but I know what it's intended to do, right? It's intended to say, she's curious here about what, and you ultimately are going to see the turn of May because we were ready. But I think they shot, their load already with it because we know that she already had she already had an epiphany that she wanted to turn herself in so we know that she has it in her to say oh i you know this guy maybe he's not

as bad as i think i'm listening to a talk and makes me think like why does she want to kill him anyway do we know we don't really know like she doesn't think that he's the reason that the temple burned down right like well why you're not wrong we don't really have a clear answer that's what's saying and everyone like I feel like oh I sit back and I I love to go on Twitter either before the episode airs or like right around the time and I don't usually people don't spoil sometimes they do but I like to see the people that love Star Wars and steer their reactions yeah because I don't know if they're blinded by the love of Star Wars and I've been that way with certain fandoms but like to me I'm looking at the basic understanding of this and like why is she

after Saul like why does she want to kill it? him. What did he do? Yeah, I think it, I think that's, did he take his sister? Like, you burned the temple down. I know, but I think that's what the answer is. I think the answer is probably because the disrupt. What we're going to get to in two more episodes of five minutes? No, but I think it's more so. I think we're supposed to know that the reason why is because

of this disruption of the life that they had, that the Jedi infiltrated. She was taught that the Jedi were not good and that the Jedi stole her sister. And we're going to find out from Saul, there was more to it. and then she's going to go, oh, okay, maybe I do want to be a Jedi. That's ultimately what the old switcheroo is going to be. Now, what would be great and tragic, and I just can't imagine that they would do this, but I think what would be satisfying,

and I hate to say it like this, but if OSHA eats it and so does the stranger, right? They don't die? Yeah, and the question's going to go, well, who's going to be the rule of two then? And that would go into PLD's theory of, well, there's someone else out there. There's someone else out there who actually is the real Sith. And this guy was kind of like kind of a rogue guy who was potentially the Apprentice.

So what he wants his accolade to take on the Sith then? He wants to replace his master and bring in another apprentice as well. That's all great and well and good. Right. With two episodes left. That's what I'm saying. Is that this is that this should have been the thing? But then, yeah.

Did you hear Leslie Headlin's She said I think she heard The way she said is like There's a definitive end of this season But there's several mysteries left for a second season Something to that effect I'm like what?

This show's not getting the second season How are we? What mysteries are we doing? Like so if they if they if they just answer Why May wants to kill the Jedi Yeah And then don't answer any other question Like

Because I'm sitting here every episode I'm like You really got Carrie Ann Moss for five minutes in a Star Wars show. That's what you got. So basically you wanted to use her for credit to get people to eyes on this show. Exactly what they used her for. That's bullshit, man. And again, I don't fall her.

She just wanted to start off. She's like, fine, what do I got to do? I got to die and you're going to pay me how much? Okay, that works. Yeah, but like. Yeah, no, I understand it. But like, that's what happens with a lot of these shows recently is, as I mentioned yesterday when I did the immediate,

reaction. As I mentioned here, too, I think this is to me the most intriguing. Out of all the stuff, and especially the one particular storyline was the one episode, I was like, oh, okay, this is what the show could be. But it's frustrating because a lot of these episodes in all of these shows is like, you have it. It's right there. The core is right there. The stuff we talked about it with Asoka, the stuff that the Obi-Wan stuff, it's like, it's right there. And then they make this other thing. I don't know. Okay, that's a great example. Do you feel that every time they go in the core is there but then it's like well it's TV show we got to spread this out of her nine episodes so let's add these characters and add this subplot to just I think I think the less I think

it's it's less of that like when I remember when I was when I was talking to Katie about the the episode that she did when she did her big um speech and it was a big like William Wallace like speech and they cut it down they chopped it up and it was like you know a a thing 40 seconds thing, which was ultimately like a two or three minutes speech or whatever it might have been. And like it's that kind of stuff because they try to like it's and I think and I have I have not kind of confirmed by anybody. This is just my speculation. I think it's a floney thing. I think it's the whole George Lucas faster, more intense, this thing. It's like and cut it down, cut it down, cut it down. And it's like you don't have to do that. You don't. Like you do like this.

There is writing that. And I, know that you can't compare it to, people say don't compare it to House of the Dragon. Don't compare it to these. It's hard not to. It's hard not to because I don't even watch House of the Dragon, but... This is what I was telling my brother the other day, right? And when I was on the phone with him, I was saying, okay,

look, I'm going, I'm going, it was right before I watched episode five, before I had any opinion on it, or six, six. And I was like, yeah, because he's not watching the show. He's a hardcore Star Wars fan doesn't want to watch the show. I was no interest in watching it. And I,

I'm like, okay, I am going to watch this tonight, but am I excited? Am I looking forward to watching this show? And the answer is not really. No, I'm not. I'm curious to see where it goes. I know enough of this. There's that, like we just said, there's that core enough that they maybe can make some stuff. Like last night.

Okay, that stuff is good. But dude, when I'm watching House of the Dragon, I'm kicking back on my couch, and I don't want no one to bother me. I want to lock in dark matter. Same thing. I was watching Dark Matter. Don't bother me. I am locked into this thing.

I am so in the world. I am doing, like, I'm just there. And that's how I wanted to be for this show, but it's just, it just hasn't done it. I'm with you in the sense that I'm fighting to not do anything else in my house when it's on. Right. I got a, like, last night I was like, I got mop this floor. I'll have it on this. Like, no, no, we're going to talk about the show.

I got to pay attention. But then, like, every little thing bothers me. Like, we're sitting there and get to the island and his ship is on that island. And I'm like, why would he park it over there? There's water. How are they going to get to it? You can swim to it. Yeah, I like that.

You can let the tide go down. Like, what kind of stupid thing is that, though? No, I liked that. I like that. Explain it to me why it's stupid. I liked it. The question is he probably knows, he probably knows how to get to. He probably has it figured out.

But I like the idea that he was pretty much, listen, it'll take you a little bit to do it, but because he wants to keep her there. And he wants to keep her there. And he wants to have, I liked that kind of, that mental game thing that he was doing. to say, hey, look, it's right there. You've got to swim to it, but I, I did that, that, you're allowed to nitpick.

You're allowed to because I did it. I think anybody can, you're allowed to do it. I just think that's a major nitpick. That's to make no sense. All right. Well, look, let's, let's keep going through here. So this hug happens. Well, the eye acting continues.

And then, but Saul tries again, gets the faulty line. He's trying to have the conversation with the Jedi. And then we, we, we, we jumped to the Venestra side. of it and yeah I'm with you man like this is this is I even said it to my reaction I think I'm with Mike here it's just so one note the performance um yeah but she's like oh something's going on okay this guy I mean he looks like he should have been breaking bad I mean I mean who's I mean who cast this guy as a Jedi he's the I'll tell you this the performance wasn't bad he wasn't bad in the role he was he's a good actor I just don't buy him as a Jedi

But who knows? Maybe he's a top Jedi's son and there's nebidism. You like the guy? Great. Good actor. Throw some makeup on him. Put some horns in it. Make him an alien.

Tusks or something. The acting was great. Yeah, he was. He was good. He wasn't bad. It's just, it's the look of it. It's in the same way that when aliens are speaking basic, it drives me bananas. Yeah.

It drives me bananas. And I'm not talking about like a menastra. I'm talking about like the things. Yeah. It's something where, again, it's Star Wars. were kind of filtered through. Like the one episode, they had the guy, I think it was from Game of Thrones with the Red Beard as a Jedi.

Yeah, what happened to that guy? What happened to that guy? He looked like a Jedi. Why didn't they bring him back? I thought they were going to do something great with that guy. They haven't brought him back at all. Again, like you said, the performance was fine, given what he was told to do in his kind of, although...

Wait, hold on. You're going to hold that, hold that thought, because you just made a great point. Me? Yes. Why didn't they use the red head guy to do that stuff. If you're going to a dangerous planet,

if you're going to bring that guy. Why aren't you bringing that guy instead of that guy? Like, yeah, it's like the casting of some of this stuff. And it has nothing. And it's the same casting office that has probably cast all the Star Wars shows. So I don't, well, no, he's not, he wasn't, I say, I don't think they cast in England. I think this is here.

I don't know. What was your other point you were going to make? I think we'll get to put that, that, that, that, master of an estuary. going to come with us. You get sick in hyperspace. Where did that come from? Like, what? Where did that come from? That was the one thing. Yeah, that, that line of like, where I don't understand where that came from. Like, why, why was that necessary? You get humbly tummy when you go in hyperspace. No, it unsettles me. Imagine it's like, hey, Mike, Mike, you saying, hey, I'm going to take a trip to you guys to the valley.

You sure, Mike? Last time he did, you had diarrhea. Do you want to go? He's like, why are you bringing that? I don't, I don't get diarrhea. I get, my stomach gets a little upset. Like, why are you bringing that out? Out of nowhere. And she's more. high ranking than him. In what Jedi world do we have Jedi that like... It's such a ridiculous. That was such a weird line. You can't go into some Jedi trance when you go through hyperspace to calm your drumbly tummy.

Like it was stupid. It was just... That line, that line I was like, what are we... This was season one, Amanda, and I'm loving everything. I would have just been like, whatever. But this show has just not gotten. Every little thing like that pops to my head. Where it did get me was this planet. They were back to this planet, the ocean planet.

it. And I really like, I guess, what the stranger is doing here. And what he's doing, he's like, he's just kind of telling her about the power that she has in her, what she's able to do, teaching more about the inner workings of the Sith stuff. And she's starting to listen to it. You know, again, more eye acting, but still, still listening to it. And then we jump back and we get to May, who's on the ship. And at this point, Saul has told her because he thinks she's Socia, hey, can you go down and see what's going on over there? And this is another ridiculous scene, but this one has kind of at least the kind of Star Wars humor tone to it. The shit rat comes in and starts doing karate for some reason.

Does this ridiculous? Yeah, what he was doing? I guess so. He does this ridiculous jump in the air. And he's like, and then instead of biting her, he stomps on her foot. And here's May, who was not 10 minutes ago about to stab a Jedi in the back with a knife just allows this killing kary ann moss in episode one right and just allows the shit rat to stomp on her foot um so either way then the iPhone shits in her face the iPhone takes a big

shit was that what it was it was like oil yeah and then it just like out of like there's there's literally she was she looks over to it and the i and the the iPhone shits on her so uh that to me again i the iPhone not thinking because take your time because why if you if you don't have a code on you to protect yourself and then she's got to reprogram you that you should have that kind of figured out but what happens she reprograms and you know she's carrying it around and she does this and she takes the iPhone with her and basically says you know okay now you're mine and I'm going to it's ultimately what gives her up to Saul but then we get back to the stuff that is really really working in the show and that's the Sith stuff.

And back once again to where we're getting a little bit more to where she's, she had said to him at one point, am I your prisoner? He's like, no, of course I'm not your prisoner. And he's like, he's really playing the game here to try. He realized it to where she says it's the same pitch he gave to May. He's like, no, I miscalculated her. Like, I dug this stuff, man. I dug what

was going on there and the relationship with it because, and I, that's why I pushed back with you on the, I don't feel like he's a Kylo rip-off at all. Kilo was whiny. Kylo was kind of like lost his temper at the drop of a hat this dude's calculated he's got more

of a... No, it's just the archetypes of what it is. Yeah. And to the fact that Leslie Headland said, yeah, we use Kylo Ren's theme for a reason. Like, they wanted the connection there. Yeah, I don't understand why they used Kylo's theme. I don't know. Because he's not a knight of rent.

But he's not a knight or rent. He's a Sith. I don't know. He's not even related to the sky. I don't know why would they do that. His performance is great. when he's on screen, I'm invested in it. I believe everything he's saying. I believe, like, I want to know more. But we've had six episodes of everything else.

I'm kind of like, dude. And it sucks. And again, we have to go up what we're given. But a Jackie Hymn's storyline. I know. I know. That would have been, that would have. Like, the more we talk, the more I agree with you, like the twins, we do not need that at all.

And the story could have been told. Because you said it before. What is their story really? I don't know still. Like if you ask most people, most people I think that like the show, how many of them would say that Mayor OSHA is their favorite character? I was going to guess. If I was going to guess, I would say that right now, the favorite characters in order would be Saul for most people at number one. I would put the stranger in as number two.

And then I'd put Jackie as number three. And then I'd put Yord as number four. before we even got to this one. I don't get the hate your God. I didn't, I mean, for me, he was annoying to me. He was kind of a stick in his ass. Yeah, he got,

he got better, but he was still annoying. But I think, but I think he had more definition as a character than they do. Like you said, we still don't know why they were killing,

why May was killing Jedi. We still don't really know, like, she says in this episode, this we got a little bit of, I left and she said, did you? They won't let me come back. Really?

Like, that's kind of what, we got a little bit more of that. Yeah. But yeah, they're just not, they're just, I just don't understand the reason why we needed them. I think that you had, I think that you could have had a more detailed 40-minute show between, and the actors that you would have had.

Because definitely Keene is great. And then, like, you know what, we'll get to it when we see. I think it's coming up soon, but we'll get back to that in just a minute. And you stay in the planet. And this to me was the best scene of the entire episode. And I really like this scene where he's continuing to taunt her. And she has the saber in her hand. And she goes to stick it in his chest.

And he goes, no. And he walks closer to it. And I loved his performance here. Again, cool, calm, calculated. He's like, no, do it here. He puts it closer to his chest. And then he puts it up closer to his face. And at any moment, she could turn it on.

And he's saying, basically, he's telling her to do it. And then she does turn it on, puts it to his neck. and he's not, he doesn't even flinch. And the conversation, I love this look on his face. This was my favorite scene. It's probably my favorite scene in the entire show. And it's because of what, so far, because of what he's done. And it's, because Mike, as I was just saying, it's memorable.

If you said to me, like, okay, name me one memorable scene from the Acolyte. I don't necessarily know what the memorable scenes were before, but I could tell you right away, I'll tell you the memorable scene when they were on that planet. and he's taunting her, but he's just getting deeper, deeper into the anger and the emotion and what a Sith is all about, the show that was pitched, and then she puts the saber up to his neck and he's telling her to the palpiting, do it, do it. But he knows she's not going to do it because that's just another level for her to get to the dark side. It was a great scene.

It was a great scene. I loved the scene. It doesn't unfortunately cancel out the other silliness that we're talking about in it, because, but it does for me, say at the end of it, because of scenes like this, someone said it on my reaction, how do you like this episode? There's so much going on that's crap writing. Agreed. But there is so much that's going on like that.

If you give me something like that and you had moments like that in every episode to where you actually gave me what this show was pitched upon, I'd probably be talking about this show differently. Yeah, I get you. Yeah. So this is a great scene. I really do. I think it's one of the more memorable scenes we've seen in Star Wars TV in a little bit.

And she's got the saber to his face. And then we jump back to Corrassant, and this is where we get the diarrhea scene. So where the accountant basically goes, hey, we know what's going on. The whole team's wiped out. And she's like, ah, I got to go. And he's like, yeah, but you shit yourself last time we were on the airplane. And she's like, all, I only shit myself when I ate the bad fish. And so then we jump back to the ship scene.

And like, where? Oh, wait, hold on a second. So are we at this point now? When she got the shit? So I'll stay where you are. Oh, yeah, I don't know. Boom. They come right back again.

Are you? What the, I know. Come on, man. I think I said when I was watching, I go, convenient. You know, that's like, convenient. But we, but that hasn't happened yet. That hasn't yet happened yet.

Right now, because May right now is still pretending that she's OSHA. And finally, Sol realizes it because of the iPhone. I thought Shirtrat was the one that told them. No? No, the Shirrat didn't do any. The Shibrat just knew for himself. He kept the information from himself. The iPhone didn't know.

Oh, you mean, before, I think the iPhone was programming. He can tell. He's got better senses than Saul. And so, Saul. No, yeah, the iPhone knew, but not Saul. No, Saul did Saul know? I think Saul knew once he started talking to her about the iPhone. And he was like, the way that you, he was like, oh, you got it to work again.

And the way that you comfort this thing, the way that you are with this thing, and then he realized it through that conversation. No, I thought then she goes, he stuns her and then the shit rat pops up. I thought shit rat off camera had a talk like, this ain't her. No. The shit rat didn't know what he was doing. The shit rat was looking for. Why did the shit rat attack him? Attack her.

Because the shit rat knew, but that's my point. Why didn't the shit rat tell Saul? I think he did, but it happened off camera. again, did it? Again, they don't want the scene of him going, blah, blah, blah, blah, and Saul's like, what? And then it's more dramatic to just stutter. I'm curious to see what the audience thinks about that

because I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, was it shitbot or piss rat? Who rat? Who rat it out? Who did Saul? Or did Saul just figure it out on his own finally? The computer or a shit rat knew more than a Jedi that this is a different person. Who was it? Who was it?

And so, yeah, we get back to it. So she's about to make the phone call and say something. She's like, who is this? And then she's about to tell you. And then she gets shot in the back once again. She's been shot 75 different times at the stun right. And she's, and then either, well, I don't know. You look at this picture.

The shit rat looks like, wait a minute. You just took her out. What's happening? And then I took that as shit rat was like, ah, you listen to me. You got her. Maybe. I don't know. Either.

I'm curious to hear whatever he says. But once again, for the eighth time in the show, Meg, it's not. down. And then this is where Saul decides, okay, I got to get the hell out of here. He does. He flies into hyperspace and Mike's favorite moment of the show happens. They leave and then the ship shows up right away. And then we get Venestra showing up and the guys are still playing chess in the background. This scene, dude, irked. Which one? What we're coming to. Okay. Oh, I know. I know why. I love her. Every time. they walk by this forest, they set it up like it's the full, like it's the impending doom. This forest is like haunted every time they show up. And then those poor moths, they're just flying around and people are killing them left and right. It's true.

But so, boy, we're not there yet because we jump back. God damn it. Sorry, buddy. So you jump back and now this is where he starts telling her about the mask, which. Oh, yeah. I liked the scene. You didn't like it. I liked it.

I like the idea that he knows. and we know she's going to put the thing on and he's like, and the idea of what it does and to be in like the meditation space and the consciousness side of it. Like this was this, I kind of wished in the same way

that you remember that episode that everybody lost their mind with in, what was it? Was it Mandalorian season three when they had that full episode that was just on Corrason? What was the episode about?

It was the one with Katie O'Brien and it was like, it seemed like something and or and it just, it was just this full episode that was just completely different than I wish that this episode, and this would have been actually a very different, this would be more in tune with the show itself. I wish the whole episode would just been these two on the island. I wish the whole thing was just the two of them on the island. Because this stuff that they're talking about here, when he's talking about the helmet and the consciousness side of it and being there and tuning into the force and what the, the, the man,

mask is actually able to do. It gives you a reason why these Sith are wearing these things, even when they're, because Vader, we know why Vader was wearing it. He was messed up. He couldn't, but it enhanced, it enhanced his dark side abilities once he was in it because it was just, he was so contained and within his own thoughts and everything to it. And it angered him more. It brought in the passion.

It did all that stuff. And he needed it in order to live. But Kylo didn't need it, but he, but he used it. And it's the same. And you get a little bit more of that explanation. through it, and I thought it was a relevant scene. Yeah. I have nothing to say on that because it's good.

Like, I just... Okay. You don't want to talk about the good things. I think it was interesting to see something different. You know? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we get that scene and we get that it looks like, okay, so then she's curious about it.

So this is now... Now this is the most heartbreaking thing for me, because they open back up and here's dead Jackie. laying on the floor and I go, this is, this to me, reminded me of a Marvel multiverse because I'm going, this is the star of your show who's dead by episode five. And if it was, you know, my multiverse, she's not laying there dead. She's, they're trying to figure out how to get her back from the dark side, right?

Instead, here she is dead. And then they see her, they're doing an investigation. No one says, hey, they left a whole bunch of Jedi. bodies here. You didn't teach that of the Jedi Temple. Well, here's Jackie. She's dead and here's poor Yord. Yard's crapped out too. They show these two and then they go, well, how about let's

walk a little closer, a little farther out and who's that? A bunch of extras. It gives a crap. Nobody did. And all right, fine. And this is where we hear her and she's, and now these are the thoughts going on and she can hear it and she can figure out everything that's going on. She even asked the accountant. She's like, what happened here?

He's like, somebody very powerful came in. Okay. What is it? The jig is up. It's it. It's it. We know the Sith they're back. It's over.

Right? But again, everyone, well, we didn't say Sith. We didn't say Sith. To me... Someone powerful enough with a saber mowing down people. Come on. Dude, so I see this scene.

In last episode, I'm like, what are you talking about? How does Saul leave these bodies here? Like, no world would a Jedi leave his fallen, brothers behind. And again, he wasn't chased out of it. He wasn't running for his life. I got to get off this planet. I'll regroup. No, he was like strolling. Hey, guys playing chess. Don't worry about those bodies. They'll decompose. But the reason they did that, and it's a terrible writing thing, is because they need to blame Saul. Oh, Saul turned bad. He killed these people? Right. That's the

only reason the bodies were left there, and he didn't take them. Yeah, but why did he make the phone call them. But why does he make the phone call if you're them? I mean, you got to be these Jedi are morons. But they didn't go all the way through. He didn't say Sith. It's Jedi are morons. Because if he would have said, hey, they're Sith. They show up, this is what Saul was talking about.

Holy shit, we're in trouble. Nope. It is the right. And again, I don't usually critique writing in a show because it's not my thing. But everything happens because a writer wants to do something that like this makes, there's

suddenly going to think Saul killed all these Jedi. For what reason? I don't know if they do. They do say that, though. I know, but I don't think that they think it. And he's like, they count's like, well, it is possible he might kill them. Why? But they think it, right, the Y is the great question. Now, a lot of people that I saw

in the comments section, and you actually said this not too long ago, think that there's one of two things going on with Venetian. One, she is the ex-master, Jedi master of the strange and she was the one who ousted him right that's that's part one part two is or not part two option two rather is that she is actually the Sith Lord that now does this this

and again I don't know venestra does this because she's well known in the High Republic comics does it negate her does it negate everything that she is I don't know enough about it because I'll tell you this Laura Kelly you know Laura of course she is a huge High Republic fan. Like, this girl loves the High Republic. And I saw her tweet from her last night. She's like, yeah, this show just might not be for me. Wow.

Really? Yeah. So when I, when I go to Star Wars, like people like her, I love her opinions because she loves what she loves. Yeah. When stuff doesn't work, she's like, this ain't working. But I know she loves the High Republic. That is her.

See, I'm not usually on the same page with her on a lot of this stuff. But she wasn't attacking the episode. She just said it just might not be for me. fair enough to say. I think she probably would love these characters because they're very public. So I don't know, man. Yeah, who knows? But nonetheless, she's got something going on.

Both her and Saul have a lot more going on and we'll find out soon what it is. But we get to the next shot and guess what? May's sleeping. But she wakes up as she does the other nine times or whatever it was. So she wakes up and this time Saul's kind of staring at her in the corner.

And he says, okay, May, I know it's you. So here's the thing. You're going to sit there and you're going to listen to my story. And I'm going to tell you off screen. Great. Perfect. So he does. And she's like, all right.

And this is, I think, the turning point for May to when we finally get that she's going to be, she's going to realize that there's more to it. And the way that they cut, I was glad they duped me a little bit because they cut that shot. And I'm like, that's the end of the episode. is like, and you're going to sit there and you're going to listen, and it goes black. And you're like, that's the end of the episode? Are you kidding me? But it isn't.

It wasn't. It goes back to, now, I'm torn with this scene. And I know, I'm very torn with this scene. So here's the mask. And we know the second you cut to it, okay, she's about to put the mask on. Yeah. This is one of those things where, and this is very similar to where, I don't know, was I talking to you about the Dark Night Rises recently?

were we talking about it? Not me, but I'll talk about that. I've been talking about it. I love that movie. I love that movie. And there's so many people who crap on that movie. I love them. I do too.

I like it. The worst part of that film, everybody will agree, is Marion Cotillard's death. It's insanely stupid. How he kept that take in there? That's what everyone says. That is what every single person says,

that's Christopher Nolan. And I made a joke about it the other day. I said, the one day I go on vacation, let you guys choose the shot. And the reason I bring that up is something that happens in this episode that in this particular scene that, to me, hurts what they're trying to do with it. So you get this scene. Here's the mask. And she's like, okay, am I going to put it on?

We know she's going to put it on. She puts it on. And they do like the kind of, you know, the Vader thing. And she's breathing as she's got it on. And then they show a shot of her with it on. And it looks like my six-year-old was. with my Yankees hat on. It's like, it looks so silly, this shot.

It's like this little body with this big, huge head. And it's not, it's not, it's not intimidating. It looks, it looks ridiculous. And I'm like, oh, no, just shoot it differently. I know what you're going for here. And this is like her path to potentially dipping her feet in the dark side. And it's working. I'm on board with it, but, but look at that.

Or what you do is, like, again, And this goes back to every department on the show being on the same page. Build a smaller helmet. Right. That when it goes on her head, it looks normal. He built one for her. He built one for her. And he said, here, this is, I've had this.

Oh, no, I didn't need that. Or he had it for his sister. Her sister and her sister didn't do it. Whatever, maybe when you're, like, I feel like, but, but he, he can't do a smaller one if it's his helmet. But, but the audience wouldn't know that. I see what you're saying. You know what I'm saying?

Just the angle. Just the angle. to make it look. If it was going to be the horn girl, I hear what you're saying. He built a different helmet. So just for the shot, it looks on her body normal.

It looked, it just, it really did. I felt like I, like, when my, when my kid puts on my hat and it was like, oh,

looks cute. But that's not, that's not what you want there. No. You want it to go, oh yeah, I could see, I can see this happening.

But either way, the, um, you got this whole entire thing to where I did say, and I stand by it, that the reason why I responded to this episode in those particular scenes is because the stuff, when they announced this show, in 2020, when they announced this show, they pitched those moments that we saw here in this episode,

that's what they pitched. And they delivered on that. It just, as Mike said, is it too little too late? It might be. Just because I liked a few of these, if you asked me, did you, now, because you liked those scenes, do you think that this is a this is a good series? No. The writing is just, you said it, Mike. The writing, and I, and I thought

when it started that the writing could actually be pretty layered and it just, it just hasn't been. But this episode was fine. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I don't think we're going to win you. I get two more.

We're going to, I'm going to finish it. Do you think they're going to, you think they're going to be able to turn this around with Skeleton Crew? No. No, you don't think some skeleton crew. Not, no. I think Skeleton Crew.

and crew is going to be 180 degrees different type of thing. Agreed. I think it's going to be like you said, Goonies in space. And if they do that and they nail it and John Watts hits it, you're going to get two guys like us to be on board of that. In Skeleton crew, just going off with

the tone is or what they're saying, that I want piss bot and shit rats stepping on people's toes and soup and oil in people's face. Well, that fits that. But remember what he told us though, he said just because it has kids in it, he said, he said, look at it more of a stranger things meets Goonies thing, is what he said to us outside.

And I get it. And I'm looking forward to that Amblin kind of feel for it. You know, what was that movie that they did? That JJ Abrams movie that they did the... Super 8. Right. That movie... Yeah, that was good. It was, it was...

It was good, but it didn't hit in the way, like, mainstream... Like, the fact that I had to think of the title. You know what I mean? It's like... Yeah. It's not as... That movie could have been so mainstreaming that... Jay J.J. Abrams is an interesting filmmaker

because I really like love... I love his Star Trek. his mission impossible, but his Star Wars and then at Super 8 where he's trying to recapture, recapture something that he loved. Yeah. It just doesn't, because it's not coming, it's just a weird. Right, right. But I wonder how John, because John Watts is clearly going to try to recapture that feel. I mean, look, you don't watch Stranger Things, but Stranger Things does, recaptures the 80s

brilliantly. Yeah. Like, brilliantly. And it recaptures it with music and in, in, in, in, in, in, in, you know, wardrobe and everything that it in tone, it recaptures it wonderfully. And I hope that John Watts can recapture that. And that's kind of what I'm looking forward to because that comes out at the end of the year, right?

Skeleton Crew? I think so. I think so. We'll have more to talk about it. I mean, it is a bummer that that's what we're already looking forward to. But I would, I'm right now and even, and this is me saying as someone who liked this episode, I'm putting this in with, with Book of Boba Fett in the cellar. Yeah.

I mean, it probably, I mean... Yeah, once this show's done, I'm not going to revisit it. Yeah, because I can still, I mean,

I don't like the Obi-1 series, but there's, I'd be lying if I said I didn't go back and watch the fights a couple different times with the two of them. And I usually watch the recut ones that the fans do with the music and stuff in them,

but I still do, but I still watch them. But I don't know. I'm hoping that in episode seven and episode eight of this show, we get more of the back. with what's going on with the Sith in general. Let's play that. Let's just, that's stick with that. And let's get some more dark stuff happen. That's why I want to see. I want

to see a dark ending. So anyway, Mike, you're on fire in this episode. Where can I find you? At Mike Kownaowski, Twitter, Instagram, same thing. Perfect. All right, Steph will be back soon, guys. Thank you for joining us here on the show. As always, make sure you comment. Get the people talking. Get us in the, get the algorithm helping us out. Let more people see what we're doing over here. We're on Apple Podcasts, run Spotify. Thank you to all our wonderful sponsors. Make sure you get one of those lightsabers, man.

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