The Kristian Harloff Show - The Acolyte WAS GOING TO BE RENEWED and then quickly CANCELLED. What happened?

Episode Date: August 26, 2024

BIG DRAMA! coming from Camp Disney AGAIN! In today's video, Kristian Harloff dives deep into the latest Star Wars controversy surrounding The Acolyte. The series, which has been divisive to say the least, was officially not renewed by Lucasfilm, sparking outrage and confusion among fans. Many are debating whether to call this a cancellation, but our own John Rocha had heard from his sources that The Acolyte was indeed going to be renewed before Disney reversed the decision. So, what happened with The Acolyte? Why was Star Wars: The Acolyte, which was created by Leslye Headland and featured Amandla Stenberg, abruptly stopped from moving forward with a second season? And what role did Kathleen Kennedy, Dave Filoni, and even George Lucas have in all of this? We'll break down all the latest Star Wars news, including reports from Jeff Sneider about the role Keanu Reeves could have played if things had gone differently. Plus, we touch on other big news from the entertainment world: The Crow bombs at the box office, the director's surprising response, Ultron's return, and why Quentin Tarantino won't watch Toy Story 4! Tune in for a full Star Wars breakdown, including thoughts on Disney Plus, The Mandalorian, and more. Don't miss out on all the juicy details! #starwars #theacolyte #lucasfilm #cancelled #mcu #marvel  Join Kristian Harloff and John Rocha on Big Thing LIVE for all this and more! Don't miss the latest rumors and drama from the world of X-Men, Marvel, and beyond. OUR SPONSORS: LIQUID IV: Indulge in hydration this summer with Liquid I.V. Get 20% off your first order of Liquid I.V. when you go to http://www.LIQUIDIV.com and use code BIGTHING at checkout.  AG1: Try AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase at http://www.drinkAG1.com/BIGTHING ROCKETMONEY: Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to http://www.RocketMoney.com/THING JOYMODE: Go to http://www.usejoymode.com and get 20% off with code [BIGTHING] at checkout.   

The Acolyte was reportedly renewed and then quickly canceled. What the hell happened? And stick around for many more topics on today's episode of The Big Thing. Let's do it. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to The Big Thing. Well, for now. That's what the name of this show is. For now.

What's that mean? Well, we'll get into it. I got a topic that I mentioned, clicked on. Ackleit caused a whole bunch of stuff, man, last week. And people were going nuts about it. And then you said, God forbid, you said the show got canceled. People lost their minds. So no, it didn't.

Just didn't get renewed. Well, the guy I talked to each and every week on this show said, it did get canceled. Because what does that mean? It means that it was going to get greenlit. And they said, okay, yeah, here we go. This is the show. We got it. And then they said, no, cancel that.

We're not doing that. That's canceled. Who reported that? This guy. John Roker. Hello. John, what happened? Yeah, I mean, yeah, hello, everyone.

Happy Monday. Thank you, Christian. And yeah, this is such a crazy story. Well, maybe not crazy in terms of recent Star Wars stuff and reversing course and firing directors and meddling with shows. But certainly, from what I have heard from some pretty good sourcing and people close to both Leslie and Lucasfilm I was told that they had

put together the writer's room back in February and I know other articles had speculated it as a rumor or speculative but no it was very confirmed that that was happening and oh that happened and that they were inquiring about the availability of directors as recently as last month

and I think what happened is those numbers came in they took a little and they realized okay we're not going to go forward with this manny don't say a word about season two at d23 and then we'll quietly just uh filtered out to our person over at deadline to put the news out there that it's done and so i think that's what happened at the end of the day and uh people getting i mean seriously people getting upset about canceled or not continuing talk about fucking semantics that mean nothing i just to me that's irrelevant the show's not going They don't want it.

And so to me, that's what people need to take away from this whole thing. But yeah, I mean, this is just a sad case with people involved with Acolyte. But in the end, I think a lot of people saw this coming a mile away. And now it's official that it is. Some people saw it coming a mile away. But if your report is true, the people who saw this show and said, oh, yeah, this is good stuff. Let's green light second season. So, you know, I even saw in the comments where people said, well, the reason I guess that

They, you know, they said no, it's because they, someone heard all the loud, hateful voices. No. No, it's not what happened. They said, we don't want to lose money anymore. We don't want to have. What they did is what I think it proves, and you can tell me, because you heard a little bit more than I did. But what it looks like to me is they said, oh, yeah, we really like what we have here. And then they said, yeah, let's get a season two.

We're ready to go. They jump the gun like they always do. Yep. And they said, here you go. Let's go. Season two. And then season one comes out. it not only doesn't do well with the fan base.

Yeah. The ratings go and they thought it was going to go up. So with them thinking, okay, yeah, we got a good shot with this thing. And then it doesn't, it doesn't perform. And then Iger goes, no, what are you doing? You know, we're not green lightning. It's on $170 million for a show that didn't even barely hit the top 10 in the season finale. Yeah.

Yeah. It makes it, you know, it is another case of the jumping of jumping the gun. but it is as conversation that I had, I had with a few different people, John. Like, you know, yes, you have those people that love the show. And that's cool. You know, if I like you love the show and I don't think you shouldn't, no one should crap on you for loving a show.

It's stupid. It's immature. It's dumb. But you also have to understand that it's a business. And, you know, for the people going, I saw, dude, I saw a tweet from somebody that we like. And it was a tweet like, well, wait a minute. if if they cancel it all the stuff that we did to fight against this means nothing what are you talking

about it's a business yeah what are you talking about this is a business if it's if they look at the numbers and they go well you know what we're going to stand up to the people who who hate it even though it costs 170 million dollars we can't crack the top 10 and uh it's it's it's we're just lose money put it out but you know what a few channels are really being mean about it it, but we're going to stick it up there, but spend another $200 million and lose money. Yeah. What are you talking about? That's not the path you want to walk because, you know, studios are not your political

cause. They are not your political cause. They're not here to hold your hand and push through legislation to make sure the world is a better place. Their job is to create content that people, or films, TV, I know people hate the word content, whatever, but create films, television, whatever, that people want to watch. And yes, hopefully affect the world in a positive way, hopefully inspire people, hopefully leave them with a positive message about overcoming difficulties and trials and

tribulations in life to succeed. And so, yes, this show certainly had a lot of crap from the beginning from the anti-woke YouTubers, that's fine. They did the same thing to X-Men 97, and then X-Men 97 came out. It was an effing banger. They're going to do it to every person that comes. Yeah, every show that comes out. And the way that you beat it is making it a good show that everyone likes.

Yeah, that's what I tweeted. Lucasfilm's lesson to learn here is come correct or don't come at all. That's basically it. Make a show. That's what she said. Make a show that everyone loves. No, it wouldn't help myself. Make a show that everyone loves.

Because there's going to be. And well, that's easier to done because they're always going to hate it. Yeah, they're always going to hate it. That's the point. Yeah, make the thing like I always bring up Mandalorian season one and season two. Yes. There's one and two, the people, you don't think that the people who were losing their minds about the sequel trilogy and not the people who rightfully had complaints about it, but the people who just wanted to hate it, they hated. You don't think they were ready to just take their gloves off with tape glass on their fists and go, okay, here we're going to let you have it.

And then, you know, it's pretty good. So. Yeah. And that's, you have to beat them by making good stuff. That's how you got to do it. And it's like not just stuff that some people like is, look, everybody's going to like something. Right. You're always going to think there's, look, you like all the damn Transformers movies. And God bless you for it.

I think that a lot of more big piles of fly farts, but you love them. And that's, and whatever. Not just me. Well, yeah, but they started to lose that money because of what we're talking about here. Because the quality started dipping even more. Yes, yes. And if you, and I think even if somebody who can appreciate those. those films, you would have appreciated it more if they were, like, great and universally

100%. Right. 100%. Right. That's my point. My point is that you're always going to have people who want to defend it, want more of it. You know, this stuff that I would, of course, want more and more and more and more of, but he's like, you get it. You also got to look at it. It's a business. The business. Business. Business. Yeah. Yeah. I used to go toe to toe with people at our former outlet there and say, it's not show stroke my hair. It's not show rub my tummy. It's not show stroke my back. It is show business, business. And their business is to make money. And their business is to create, yes, groundbreaking, interesting, exciting content,

but also content that they know is going to be successful. And so that's what it is, Christian. And you know it. You're saying it over and over again because it's the truth. And people really need to kind of factor that into their feelings. Because that's how you navigate all of this stuff. That's the problem. That's the problem is it.

It's on both sides, by the way. Both sides. It's become a war of either way because in the one side of it where the people feel like they've lost the war, well, we lost this one. You didn't lose shit. You got a bad show. Yeah. You got a bad show. And because the bad show didn't work, it, you know, or you like the bad show or you like the show that just didn't, you know, didn't work for the amount of money that it was spent in the same way that, guess what, guys on the other side of it, you didn't win anything.

There was a bad show that was made. and no one should be rooting for things to to fail, especially if you actually do like Star Wars. I want Star Wars to get better. Star Wars stinks right now. It stinks. It stinks. It absolutely stinks.

They have no idea what they're doing over there. It's a disaster. I don't root for it to be bad. Every show that comes out, I hope, is good. Everyone. Yeah. And it's just, they don't know what they're doing. And that goes to the greater conversation.

Yeah. What the hell do they do next? because this skeleton crew thing has to be at least decent or hit what they're trying to go for. Yeah, yeah. Because we go back to exactly what we just said, five minutes of John. Yeah. There's going to be the channels that are already going to start putting out videos about how much it's the worst and it's just kids. It's a kid show and this and this and this.

But if it comes out and it's good and it overpowers that, then, okay, look, maybe they should start making stuff that's a little bit more heartfelt than this, you know, whatever I mean. Or just make good stuff. and they still don't know. We know one movie that's coming out. The Mandalorian and Grogu. It's the only thing we know. They still haven't announced that Ray movie. Nope.

Listen, I'm going to tell you this from what I heard from a couple of other sources, too, is this has been the last few weeks. I think I've said this on other shows is after this recent slate of stuff, they are going to pause production on the movies and TV shows. That's what I'm hearing, that they're going to pause production, including the Ray movie and all these. They're going to pause it and take a look at this. I think the accolite really kicked them in the mouth.

Do you know what I'm saying? I think they finally realized, wait, it was like secret invasion. They finally realized, okay, we got to stop for a second. Who finally realized it? Who finally realized? Probably Iger. 100% it was iron.

Yeah. And so I'm telling everybody now, two things. One, these three movies that are supposedly greenlit, I think are now in a state of flux. And I've never thought that up until this moment or this last couple of days. And two, I think for the first time ever, Christian, you know this. You can back me up on this.

I have never called for Kathleen Kennedy to be fired. I've never thought she should step down. I never thought I never bought into any of those narratives, right? But this is the first time where I thought that there's a real possibility that she may step down of her own free will and walk away from this because clearly what she wants to do doesn't seem to be working overall artistically and with a lot of the fans. And so at the end of there, you got to realize maybe it's time to change coaches because the team isn't responding to the coach anymore.

And it's had A-Rod and Petit and all these different people in 2009, they won one championship, one with the roster that they had. That's right. And Joe Girardi was on, I was watching the game the other day, and Gerardy was talking about, so, look, we just couldn't get it done. guess what? Kathleen just couldn't get it done. That's what it is. She can't get it done. Her strategy isn't working. I'm doing, I'm going to do a video. I'm doing a video, by the way, then I'm going to do the six, whether six or seven things. I don't know yet.

Things to change Star Wars. Yeah. And I think that I'm going to ruin it for everybody right away, why they're even going to want to watch a video because I'm giving it away. Regime change is the number one. It's number one reason. It's got to happen. And I'll say this too. Flonie needs to either be, that, that, that, that, position was not the position for him. He cannot be in charge of everything. He can't. You cannot put that guy in charge of everything. He should, you know, a couple projects and those things. You can't put him in charge of everything. You need to change the tone of it all. You need to change it in general. It needs to be rewritten. It needs to be written better. It needs

the whole thing. It needs a whole facelift. And if you're not going to sell to Apple, you bring a, I can't remember who this was. I think it was appealed. It might have been PILD. I'm not sure. Someone said, well, who would you want? It was Pieldy. He said, who would you want to run Star Wars, you know, like a, like a Feigey and I said, well, not Fahyke. I said, but here's the thing. You didn't know who Faggy was until Faggy made you realize who we were. Yeah, exactly.

So you just need an executive, like between their 30s or 50s. He or she who just really cares about this in general has a good business mind, but also knows how to put things in place to really push forward a narrative, get a writer's room,

get everything together, make a couple of different projects, no, do, essentially, what James Gunn is trying to do right now. Now, whether or not that's going to work, we'll find out in a couple of years. But to put together a few projects, to say, boom, boom, boom, that's what we're doing. This is the first one. We're ready, and we're starting filming now. You know what I mean?

Like, that's what you got to do. You got to just gut this whole thing because it's a disaster. And stand behind your people. Stand behind your people. Stand behind your projects. Stand behind your creators. And I don't mean when you're promoting it because everybody can do that. That's the base level of standing behind your projects and your projects and your

creators. I mean, when the fans come after your creators or come after your actors or come out, stand up and go after them. So you're defending the people on your team. That matters. That's important to have people come out and be vociferous in supporting the people that are on their team because you're standing behind the content. This kind of putting it out there and then running away and then people can attack it, not saying anything. That's a terrible. What do you mean by that? What do you mean by that in general? I mean, why does you and McGregor have to come out and defend Moses Ingram? That's where Why isn't Kathleen Kennedy out there? Why isn't Dave Faloni talking about the acolyte?

Why isn't he on Nupris podcast saying, I'm proud of the show, I support this show. This is a great show. I had input in this show. I was able to do things. Why aren't more of those people coming out and going on all these shows and promoting this stuff? Daisy took hits. Kelly Marie Tran took hits. Boyega took hits.

All these people have taken hits who've been part of the Star Wars universe. And at some point, someone put it in that Rolling Stone article at some point as a creator of color or as a an LGBT creator, why the hell would you, or a woman,

why the hell would you want to walk into these halls and take a chance on Star Wars when they're not willing to defend you when people come after you.

That's part of the regime change in general. It's part of the regime change. It needs a regime change. It needs, like, if I'm, if I'm Iger,

I'm saying, thank you for everything, guys. Thanks for the billion-dollar movies. We're bringing in a whole new team. Yeah.

This is the person that's running it now. Flonnie, if you want to stay on, you can stay on, but this is the position that we have for you now. If not, great. If you want to run animation for us, perfect. If not, thank you.

Shake your hand. Bootsch out the door. And then we got some other, we got a couple of things. Here's a couple of projects. We're going to take it in a little direction. This way, these are the movies that we want to do. And we're going to do this. And we'll take it step by step. Because this is a property that we spent, you know, $4 billion on.

$4 billion. We made it back in the beginning, but we haven't made a movie since 2019. Our shows are consistently getting torn apart. There's only so much. you can blame on a fan base. There's only so much you can blame on a fan base. You know, it's like, yes, yes, it's not, it's not healthy. And there are a lot of people, but in the same way that if Marvel was making this,

if Marvel is not on the height, it was beforehand. Yeah. But it's still not making these things where it's like everything is like, oh, oh, you know, there's something like that was kind of a dud or it cares. But one of these, like every time you're just shaking your head, like, what the hell was that? Like, I've never, I couldn't believe me watching Star Wars in 2000 and 24. when that scene with that witch,

fight me. I'm like, no, what are we doing here? What is this show? And it's like the decisions are just so bad all the way around. So they just, that's what I think they need to do that. They have the other thing that I will definitely bring inside of this video is adapting their damn books. It's like, you want good writing.

You've got a ton of writers. You've got a ton of writers. You got Claudia Gray. You've got Alexander Fried. You have all these different. different people that you can stick them in a writer's room first of all they should be part of that they know star wars better than half the people making decisions in that freaking company and it and then you adapt some of your books get james luciano you get other people you bring in drew carpeche in to

write the nice old republics series i mean it's right in front of your face you know not giving away the whole video man stop giving away the whole i'm just i because it's not about just a video john it's about trying to fix the damn team the team needs a championship run they need an iron judge they need a we need a joe toy we need a joe toy we need a joe toy we need a joe Corey to come in and whip these guys, Phil Jackson to come in and whip these guys and 100% and get great content out of them. Well, it ain't over yet, John, because your buddy, Jeff Snyder, had some reports on this very, very topic.

Yeah. And there's more stuff to it. Yeah. New reports have gone more into the cancellation of the accolite and they've indicated rumor about Keanu Reeves being up for a role in the series and that indeed was accurate. Jeff Snyder or Walker would say, Jeff Snyder. indicates a scheduling conflict reportedly prevented Reeves from signing on for the role of Master's soul, the part ultimately going to Squid Game star Li Zhang Jay.

Lucasfilm still wants him for a Star Wars project, so expect plenty of speculation about that in coming months and years. Recording the accolized shorerunner at Leslie Headland and the studio itself were reportedly planning a second season, and John Roker reported the studio was putting together the writer's room. We talked about that. We discussed that just now. We heard her straight from the horse's mouth. And then it says, despite negative backlash from the fandom, the cancellation came down to one simple factor, viewership. The Insinternter reports indicates viewership collapsed following the first two episodes.

That differs to something like and or where viewership steadily climbed throughout the season, making a second season rule more likely, and are also benefited from the exceptional reviews as opposed to much more mixed in the act. Concerns from some parts of the fandom are that the series may end up like Willow being removed from the service with no other way to watch it. One can hope. Um, so if you are talking about, let's, let's go to, let's go with the, um, let's go with that, that last part first before we hit the count of it all, right? So the, the, the range, the reviews. I mean, the, um, viewership. Thank you. Yeah. So this is what I was talking to my, my brother about this, about and or right. And he's like, yeah, he's hard and or didn't do that well. I was like,

okay, this is what you have to understand about how streaming works. As opposed to, and I bring this up all the time, supposed to like movie theaters. When you go to the movie theater, if opening weekend needs to have a big, strong opening weekend to really keep you in the theaters for a little bit, it's got to keep you as long as you want to stay in the theaters for a bit, you got to have a good strong weekend. I mean, Deadpool's going to be in the theater for a little longer. Then you look at something like borderlands. I think it's already out on digital, right? Because it didn't do it. And you can lose money on movies very fast doing that because people are going to decide, I'm going to spend my money to go see something this weekend, right?

As opposed to streaming, I already pay X amount of dollars for Disney Plus, right? So Andor can be watched tomorrow and still their ratings will go up, right? Yeah. Battlestar Galactica still gets ratings because it continues to be discovered by new audiences. Now, the reason that Andor continue to do better is because of exactly what they said. Viewership, word of mouth, I mean, excuse, sorry, critical response, word of mouth from viewers and then nominations and all that. So I cannot tell you how many people said, oh, I didn't catch Andor when it was out. But I just, I heard it was pretty good.

Should I check it out? I was like six months later, a year later. People will continue to do that. No one is going to do that with Akely. I heard it was really good. I'm going to go watch it. It's not going to happen. It's not going to build up.

So the Akely, even though it started off in a position where it was a little disappointing, it told you in that report. The reason it got renewed is because people kept watching it. And it kept going back up. So if you check the the streaming numbers now on that show, significantly different than what it was on episode. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's the deadline reported that,

and Jeffrey reaffirmed that in his reporting as well. The first two episodes, knocked out of the park, and then from the third episode on, it was a steady decrease. And this is the thing that's important. You know, for me, I had to kind of do a lot of research and then look through stuff over the weekend. And, you know, my narrative, because I'm from the older generation,

my narrative is if you want representation, when they represent you, you've got to show up and patronize the content. You got to show up and show them that you, you know, you believe in it 100%. But the newer generations now are like, we're not just going to show up because you put a Latino in it or a gay person in it or a woman in it.

We're showing up if you make it good. And that's important when you look at it. And clearly, a lot of people from a number of audiences took a look at the first two episodes of the Acolyte and were out after the second episode. They're like, you know what? This isn't for me. I don't like anything's happening.

I don't like the storylines, whatever. Whatever they were trying to do this. I know it was groundbreaking and all that. It's just not for me. And guess what? I've got a million other channels and a million other shows to watch that I can watch, that also do representation, that also speak to the content or the life I'm living. And so that's the truth.

You know, I think there's plenty of people in those communities that they were representing who didn't watch the show after the third episode or got around to it later. Quality speaks volumes. And that's the thing. And there's no bigger quality indicator at times than people not coming back after they sample the first two episodes of your show. Now, if you look at the Cano side of it, now, you know, not to pile on, but I'm glad this didn't happen. First of all, I think that they really had a great actor playing Saul, and I thought he was,

yeah, what they did with the character was, was awful, but what, but yeah, he was great. And I also, you know, there was, I'm part of that whole thing. I wanted to see him actually play Revin, but I want to see him in something good. I want to see him in something like that's really, and. You're talking Cano. Cano. Cano. I want to think Cano in something really good. I want to see them. They're going to use that star power. You know, use it on something that they really want to push forward and you want to, look, that's how if you want to get the old Republic moving.

And you want to push forward. What I thought they were going to do actually with like Carrienne Moss, which they, again, tease you with that and give you nothing with her. Wasted her. Wasted her. Wasted Daphne and just wasted both of them. But if you did that, if you brought in. Canter Reeves, you bring him in, whether it's Darth Revin or whatever it might be, and you bring them in to the old Republic, that will get people who don't understand that time period or know what it is. Well, Canter Reeves is in a Star Wars show. I want to check it out. Yeah. Yeah. And that to me makes more sense. So I'm glad that he wasn't in this because you could have seen,

you can make the argument, well, that could have been the thing for the High Republic. But it's like, yeah, but that's the quality of this show, I don't think was good for Canter. Brother, you and I have been around Hollywood for a long time, multiple decades now. I left. You know this. Scheduling difficulties can sometimes couch. I read this script and I know this is not good and I don't want to be apart. So it's very clear.

At least for me, it's very clear that you can consider it as a possibility, seeing how the show went down, that Keanu took a look at this and read the scripts and was like, you know what? but I don't think this is for me and I'm not going to shine. And I don't like what you're doing with this character. And I don't like where he ends up by the end of the show. Call me for something else. Yeah, call me for something else. And I think that's, for me personally, that's what I think happened.

And scheduling is what they use like, oh, dehydration, which also means drug use. So, you know, we know the buzzwords by now living in the town, having been in that town for so long. And to me, that's what I think happened here. Yeah. So, I mean, it to me makes, it's a. a good thing for them in general because they can use that star power for something else and not this show. So all right, there's tons there, guys. There's tons. So what do you think about all of it? Do you think that, you know, this is something that will continue. This conversation is

going to go on. Do you think that at this point, and I'm very curious, I know, as John said, there are more and more people like John that are coming, because I jumped on the more so of the Kathleen Kennedy is a good producer, doesn't really. know what she's doing with Star Wars. I probably jumped on that train four or five years ago. But there's more and more people who are starting to come to the idea, not just her, because it's more than just her. She got a team around and they're all making bad decisions too. Do you think it's time that they say, okay, let's move on here. We got a, the Iger just needs to gut this whole thing, bring in a whole bunch of new people and start it from scratch.

But I will tell you this, before I jump over that too, what I want to say, You know who needs to not be touched at all and needs to continue and maybe even promote it. The teams that are making the video game stories like the Jedi Survivor, right, the teams that are making visions, like the animated stuff that they're doing, they're doing it right. They got it on lock, maybe because no one's bothering them. But that's what I would tell you. I would tell you stick with them.

We're entering a Sony studio situation where the animation is great. that everything else is falling apart. Everybody else needs to be gutted. And I'm curious what you guys think. Go ahead and put your comments in there for sure. All right, listen, we have a lot to talk about because there's so much more, the box office. You talk about stinkers. Oh, man, the crow didn't even hit the top 10, I don't think.

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Just use that. So I have to, but I'm working. I got to talk to a few different people to make that happen. But I feel, I think it's easy, it's simple, it's on brand. And I haven't really had that before, you know. Small movie.

Do it. Yeah. So I think that it just a few things would, we'll have to happen. But we'll see. I got the, you know, I got the Clips channel,

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we just put up our Christopher Reeve. I don't know if you guys have seen the super slash man. Christopher Reeves, uh, trailer the drop today. It's my show of the reaction for that one. today might be going live later on with the new episode of the nation talking about stuff that's going on in the world, some reviews of stuff I've seen. I finished off Bad Monkey. I can't give a full review of it, but I can tell you that I enjoy the hell out of that. So if you want to come and watch me later on today, I'll do that. But we've got, of course, geek buddy stuff coming up here real soon. The hot mic this week is at 4 p.m. on Wednesday, not Thursday. Jeff has a couple of commitments on Thursday, so come and join us then.

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We got this is a sad state of affairs when it comes to the box office. Deadpool and Wolverine does it again It's at the at the moment What it would it makes? That's a terrible screenshot I'm gonna have to bring up the screenshot in general But it's got this is your top 10 You got Deadpool and Wolverine alien Romulus It ends with us blink twice the forge whatever that is

Twisters Coraline the crow Despiccably Me 4 inside out two The crow John $4 million dollars barely five million on an opening weekend in August. Coraline, a movie that is 15 years old, made $5 million. Twister, which has been out of the theater for 75 weeks, 6.6 million. Blink twice.

What is, is that, that's the Blake Lively movie, right? Zoe Gravitz movies. Oh, okay, okay. It ends with us as the. I see. I see. Oh, there you go. Okay, so both those movies did better.

7 million for a blink twice. It ends with us at 11.8. Alien Romulus at 16.2 and Deadpool Wolverine 18.3. I think, and I'm going to be as nice as possible, when saying this, this should prove that Rupert Sanders can't direct anymore. Wow. The guy, I mean, the guy just continued. I mean, what did he do?

He did the Snow White thing. He did, I mean, it's like the Japanese anime one. No more. Ghost in the Shell. That's right, goes. And no more. No, you're not allowed. You lost. We gave a shot to come back. No more. I don't know, man. You can't. I know. It's fair. Come on. I mean, who's, there have been,

there have been way better directors that have been in directors jail for way. I mean, look what happened to poor Gavin Hood. Yeah. That movie. Gavin Hood's a great director. I love Gavin Hood. I got a chance to sit down with him at Collider. Great director. Great director. And was bullied on that damn movie by Fox. Yeah.

the X-Men. And got stuck in directors jail for God knows how long. Yeah, such crap, man. He's such a good guy. And that one he did with Karen Knightley from a few years ago was fantastic. Yeah. And so, yeah, it's a shame. So give me something Robert Sanders did that's decent.

Nothing. Nothing. One episode of foundation. One episode of foundation. What movie has he done that has worked? Nothing. Ghost to show was okay. How does he keep getting work?

The Snow White Huntsman. I guess it's a good talker in the room. I guess maybe they're looking for someone who has a track record of doing action films that are okay if you got doesn't go over the budget the crow the crow is one of the most cursed movies yeah of all time after you know everything that happened obviously with with with brennly then after that like every sequel has been not good every reboot i remember back on schmose no we were talking about a crow reboot with norman ridis yeah that's how long ago it's been they've been trying to do it reboots for this thing forever and nobody can get it right so you get to a place like this is this goes

back to the same stuff we're talking about with business. If you're going to bring back an IP, you've got to get somebody that is like, okay, someone like, he's not going to do it right now, obviously, but someone like a Fetti Alvarez, you know, somebody was just, yeah, like, it was like, look, this guy did this, this woman did this, they did this thing. And if they can do that for the crow, what do you say for him? Well, if you can make it a, like that one scene in that movie that almost was good. it's like you got i mean when it's the if it's another movie it's an original IP type thing you're

taking a shot with this guy fine maybe it's the thing that gets him out but if you're going to try to reboot the crow you got to come out you know pun intended guns blazing yeah and here's what's crazy like there were some positive reviews for this thing that's that's the crazy part of it all and they still like variety gave it a positive review newsday gave it a positive review that's the ap critic gave it a positive review that's kind of shocking that it had some trades that were behind this film and still only made $4 million. I think it also

just put it in a real quick. Someone said, well, Fede Alvarez didn't, all he did was cherry picked the alien franchise. He was not, but wait, even if that's true, he did, he cherry picked it, put it together, put together a movie that worked really well, had the rhythms of what the franchise was,

had people excited about it, and made a lot of money. So I'm hiring Feda Alvarez to do that again. So if the structure is looking at again, like a, you can have your criticisms on the movie, whatever you want to say, but you're looking at it, what justifies a success and a failure. Yeah. Cherry pick all you want if it's a success. Yeah. And the failure is what just came out.

The movie made $4.4 million. John and I could shoot a commercial about a water bottle and a cup of coffee. Sure. And you put the right person in there. With the marketing, you have a studio behind it, you got a shot at putting out $4.4 million. Here's the sad part of this all. The Crow City of Angels, which was the sequel to the Crow, which did not, of course, featured the Turner Bradley because he was sadly, he sadly died on the production.

That made $9.7 million on its opening weekend, more than double than what this remake made, for God's sakes. And that master, that should tell you volumes about it. But it is just Rupert. I also think, look, Bill Scarsgar's a good actor. Don't get me wrong. But he is not a lead of a franchise that you need to be banking on to reboot this. Mamoa had circled this for years.

I've done everything possible to make sure Mamoa was the lead. That's banked in money for God's sakes. They didn't know what they were doing with this thing at the end. They were like, oh, we have an IP. Let's try to make some money off of it. You know, he's a good actor, which he is. He's fantastic. Of course.

I thought he was great in the John Wick movie, the last one. He's great. He's a great actor. But yes, he doesn't, he's not going to get people getting excited to go see a Crow movie. It's got to, unless it is put together in a very well written, directed filmed, and you're like, because then it'll showcase what he's able to do. It doesn't matter how good of an actor is it. If he's trying to showcase subpar material, look, unless I haven't seen the movie. I haven't seen it. I didn't mind the trailers. When I saw the trailers, I actually don't like the trailers. But I, but I was clearly in the minority then and I haven't seen. the movie from everybody, even people who I knew who liked the trailer said the movie was just not good. Yeah. But that's, that's a, that's not good. That is a, that is a really, really difficult thing. Um, but the rest of a Deadpool and Wolverine right now, currently sits at $1.2 billion. Um, Alien Romulus currently sits at a world wide total of 225. Um, made 72 domestic thus far. Not bad. It ends with us is an absolute juggernaut, regardless of the, the controversy or not.

Tancet and I. 242 million dollars on a what, a 25 million dollar budget? Is that what it was? Something like that? 50 million dollar budget? Something, something like that. 242 million dollars. That is a massive hit. Blinked twice. Oh, that's the Shannon Tatum one right, right, right, right, right. Okay. So 14 million worldwide on its first weekend. And then the Forge. That's the one I didn't know. which one's after graduating from high school without any plans from the future Isaiah received a push to start making better life decisions but six points Christian biblical film oh is it okay well it came out to see six point six million probably didn't cost very much to make it all so then you're not five million five million you're not going to have and those movies have legs if they do well in general those movies have like continuously.

So I will tell you that I think that this now, get out of the way because here comes Beetlejuice. Yeah. Not this week, but the following weekend. Yeah. I give a screening for that yet. I think it's Monday or Tuesday. Of next week.

Next week. Yeah. Okay. I'm, I got to follow up on that one. So then, yeah, that's going to be the one that kicks bass.

Base, kicks ace. Bichet. She's a base. So we'll see. This is tough. It's getting tougher. God,

I don't want to whine like a bitch, but it's getting tougher for me, man. When I know a film is not going to be good, I don't go to the screenings. And then when I hear they're not good, I don't even go watch it and try and do a review. Like,

you have, I am so trying to force myself to go see the crow today because I've got time this afternoon, but I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it because I don't want to, but then again if I'm going to do the live show then I gotta go I just don't want to put myself through it dude I have so many hours I have only so many hours left

in my life do I want to fill it with films that are terrible I don't know man I'm starting to lose a little faith on some of this stuff you know well also it's the time of the month that we're in it is my time of the month but at the time of the year that we're in right now it's like this is this is the August has been awful dog shit it's just been awful and not just not just in movies TV Like everything, there's just nothing going on right now.

Yeah, September. Like, we're calling to September, Chris. Oh, like this. We're in the water paddling like Dreyfus and Shider at the end of Jaws to get to the shore. It's brutal. August has been brutal all the way around. But there's tons of stuff coming out. And I'm excited to see how it does.

But we have, I guess we got one more story that we really could cover here today. And just to let everybody know, I see that we already have a ton of questions. So that's why we're going to kind of cut the topics off. And if you want to put your topics and your questions in, we'll get to them. We'll be here until the end of it. So the next topic, John, that we have here,

let's see, I'll let you pick. So we can talk about, we can talk about Heat 2. We can talk about Tarantino, saying you will not watch Toy Story for. I kind of like the Tarantino story. What's the other one? The other one was the Jimmy Olson picture or Spader.

returning as an ultron. I prefer the Tarantino, but we can hit the Skater one quickly before we jump into questions. All right. Well, let's let's start with this Tarantino one. Quentin Tarantino, I think he was on Bill Maher or something. He was telling you. He said refuses to watch Toy Story 4. Pixar's Toy Story films have been universally praised with all four movies scoring near-perfect

numbers on Rotten Tomatoes. It got 100%, 100%, 98%, and 99%. 97% well pretty damn good i didn't realize the fourth one did 97 uh nonetheless the fourth one is seen as the weakest of the bunch 97% i'll take it uh mostly because it was essentially unnecessary especially in the wake of the third film serving as a trilogy cap one person who's not a fan is quentin tarentino who appeared on bill mar's club random podcast he says he believes there are only two perfect trilogies in cinema sergio leones the man with no names film and the toy story film. As a result, he refuses to watch the fourth one, believing it will ruin a perfect trilogy.

He says, I'm a big fan of the Toy Story trilogy. The third one is just magnificent, and it's one of the best movies I've ever seen it. If you've seen the other two, then that's just devastating. The thing is, three years later or something like that, they did a fourth one and I have no desire to see it. You literally ended the story as perfect as you could, so no, I don't care if it's good, I'm done. The talk comes as a fifth story, the toy story, is in the works as Pixar, who had a disappointment with the franchise in the form of a what if spin-off light year. The comments have led to plenty of discussion about what else could be considered a perfect trilogy, even if it is one of the larger franchise.

So what I'll say about this is, um, listen, I, I understand what he's saying. I understand. It's like he loves the movies so much. Sure. He loves one, two, and three. And he doesn't want to taint it because as a creator and as a storyteller, he's good with it. And he said, I'm done. I don't need to see it.

I'm out. That's fine. It's fine. Now, if, but it's one of those things, though, in the same business conversation we're having here, as they said before in this thing, well, why are they making this movie? You know, it's a perfect bow because it made money. And not only they make money, they didn't, the concern of valid concern is, are you just making this movie to make money? Or is there an actual story to tell? In my opinion, there was a story to tell. In my opinion, there was a story to tell. Yeah. And I thought it made sense. It makes all the sense in the world why they would make a fifth one because whatever they did with Lightyear. Yeah. That movie was an absolute bomb as far as money went. It was. So that is something now that they have to remedy. So this is,

but the comments retention Serentino, I didn't take any. I didn't take any, whatever. He's, he's a lot to say that. You know what? You just want to get him on your show. And I totally respect that. But here's what I'll say. Well, listen, Story Story 4 made a billion dollars. So whatever your complaints are, the thing made a billion dollars. And like you said, 97%. It's only just a few people who feel like it was like, why did they do it? Why did they do whatever?

Because the film made a billion dollars. So clearly not a lot of you had an issue, not enough of you had an issue with it, that it sank the film or anything like that. So it is fine. That's why you do a fifth one. And yes, the light year, certainly that's a part of it for sure. but like I think also they have a story to tell and they want to make money. That's how business works.

We're going to get a good script and we're going to make money off of this. Because I think coming off of what just happened here with them with Inside Out too, clearly if they put a script together, nobody gives a shit that it's, oh, a money grab because the film is good. And again, we go back to what we talked about earlier, quality, right? But look, I love QT. I respect QT, but sometimes QT, man. You cannot decide what is a trilogy,

wasn't a trilogy, what isn't a trilogy if it isn't a trilogy anymore? That's not how it works. That's not how it works in any way, shape, or form. You can decide it for yourself. Of course. He's got your own personal. I think that's what he's doing. But like, you know, it's not a trilogy. But I think that's what he's doing. I think he's saying for him, that's the perfect trilogy in the same way.

You can't compare it to, there wasn't a fourth man with no name movie. You can't compare. I know. I know. Look, the same way that like Indiana Jones to me is three movies. It's three movies. But I understand that there's fine. there's three. My father's only two. Right, right. And so, but I, so I understand it.

I don't, I don't take like, oh, what's he talking about? Close to close. Yeah, I don't. I don't. But I love to. Yeah, me too. And of course, Marr has never watched any of them. Of course. Of course, he has. He's too cool. He's too cool. He's too cool. He's too cool. He smells like potato farts. All right. So let's go to the next one. Let's, this is a, this is a, all right, this is. This is James Spader.

Strings. Spader is returning as Ultron for the Vision series. Emmy winner James Spader will return to the MCU, reprising his role of the voice of Ultron in Marvel Studios currently untitled Vision TV series. Paul Bettney is reprising his role as Vision and follow up Wanda Vision, which is expected to follow the fully white vision we saw at the end of this show as he searches for a new purpose in life. Terry Matalas, who scored much acclaim of for his showrunner work. on the third season of Card is in charge of the new season, which has been nicknamed Vision Quest. Ultron was the villain of 2015's Avengers Age of Ultron film,

a peacekeeping AI created by Tony Stark that became corrupted by the Mindstone and sought to wipe out humanity. Ultron created vision, but the Avengers took him and gave him consciousness with the remains of the AI program Jarvis, ultimately turning into a being who helped the Avengers, Ultron was seemingly destroyed at the film's end. The Vision series plans to film in England in early 2025. I hear so many different things about this show.

Oops, hey, look at him. That's vision. Strange. So one of the things is that the writer's strike obviously pushed this thing back. They didn't know what they were going to do with it. At one point, it was like, how it's not going to happen to get greenlit early

and all this stuff was happening with it. Let's just greenlight everything. And then he decided they were going to do it. Maybe they realized it's some more characters from the old regime. They needed that a little bit more. What I will say is that someone reached out to me recently. It's like, oh, do you think, how do you think this is going to play out with,

with how Ultron's coming back. How's that going to work? And I said, well, they never really explained anything past that what if series. And that was great what they did in what if. They have to probably tie it in with what if, hopefully, because that's the first season. Everybody thought the what if season was going to be tied into Dr. Strange and not even acknowledged. Yeah.

Like the what if was clearly just like an animated series that they pushed off to the side and said, oh yeah, this is like fun stuff, but it doesn't really have to do with anything. And that sucked. So hopefully this Ultron side of it with the watcher and all that actually does play because I thought that that stuff they did with Ultron was great. Yeah. Yeah. I liked Ultron.

I mean, look, Age of Ultron is not a great Marvel movie, but certainly I think it's got a lot of watch, rewatchable parts. Reward sections. Yeah. And certainly James Spader is a massive reason because he's such a fantastic actor. By the way,

somebody pointed out that he hasn't done a role besides Ultron and the Blacklist since like 2016. That's not really. That's the life, son. 100% yeah he probably just like you know doesn't want them doesn't need to yeah exactly and that's speaking of trilogies this would be the third because they're calling this an unofficial trilogy with wanda vision agatha and then this vision series so seeing him come back it makes sense because there was a battle between them through um through age of ultron and at the end they have that awesome exchange about the future of humanity between the two before ultron is wiped out so the fact that he's still

around somewhere i think is great and this is once again bring back robert downy junior bring get back James Spader. This is going to start happening more and more that they're bringing back people from the vision. They're bringing him vision his own soon. Bringing them back. Yeah, of course they are because they need to go back to the stuff. Look, this is what I will say about it.

Are they doing the greatest hit stuff? Yes. Is it right in the same conversation we're having about a toy story though, right? Is it right for them to do financially? Time will tell we will find out. Yeah. In the same way that Deadpool 3 made the most out of all three of those movies and look at the people they brought back the same way that no way home did all that look who they brought back

as much as you want to like say oh here we go again with member berries they pay the bills um and so if you do it the right way and it's still you know again decent and they put together this vision series in the same way that we were talking about before make quality stuff it'll pay off yeah um all right john tons of comments let's do it tons of comments for people so thank you for everybody who has put in comments uh or the super chat or there's super chat rather we are going to and well all the comments but but the super chats we're going to go through all them right now and if you guys want to throw in any of those comments throw them in there right now we will be here until the last one has been read that's what we do on this every monday so we'll go

through we have 32 of them yeah i was um when we started we already had like 12 the before the show even began yeah we're going to start with johnny venerable who says Post-acquite's failure. Do you think there's concern to move forward with the Ray movie? Fair or not, Lucasfilm needs fan-based unity, not divisiveness. Yes, that's what I've been saying. I 100%. I do, yes, because fair or not, and I hate to keep saying this,

because it's not because people, there are things that are fought for, that are fought for truthfully and right. But you also have to understand business. And it's the same thing I hammered down again. if you are making a movie or a television show for $30 million, $40 million, you can aim it to whoever you want to and aim it at one point and say, this is who we're talking to.

I don't give a crap of anybody else likes it. That's it. And it makes you some money off of it also. Great. You spent $30, $40 million. You made a profit on it. You message film, whatever you want to do. You can do that.

When you are making a $200 million franchise film, you don't have that luxury. You just don't because you have to get everyone to spend the money. So you have to say, okay, how do we make a movie for everyone? Even the people we don't like, how do we make it for everybody? And so the question is, and I don't know, maybe they were doing that with the Ray movie. But I don't think the director was doing herself any favors with the interviews that she was giving. And I think that they're probably, I think that one's on hold for a little bit. I think that I don't, I think if anything, Sean Levy or Mangold gets the next call or even

Faloni's movie, but probably not. I would go, I would say, I would say Levy has, is probably the first shot, then Mangold, and then Faloni, and then the Ray movie. Yeah, I mean, if you're looking at Sean Libby, who just made you a billion plus on a, on a Deadpool Wolverine movie, how are you not considering his script, his race script over Charmino Bay, Chanoi? And she ever, does he have a race script? Uh, that's, wait a minute. No, I'm not. No, no, you already stepped in it.

Nope. You just stepped in it. Nope. From what I've heard is, John. I'm not, yeah, that's, I'm just saying that. Oh, you don't know anything. I don't know. Oh, you do. You, you rat.

I've heard that Sean has a script or has working on a script that may be attached to Ray in some way. And I don't think that's true. Yeah. Now, that's true. I don't know if that's news. I think people have intimated at that, like an older Ray or whatever. There's possibilities there. Well, I thought that was Linda Lough with the older Ray.

uh well yeah but also i think that's an idea more that you're leading up to i don't like i i here's the thing i you know i got in trouble with the anti-woke side of star wars when i defended charmino bay chino because i you know i told them all to reach down in their pants and find their balls and i think yeah it was to stand by in those comments but i think more than ever now christian i think she's in doubt to continue on the ray movie as a director and yeah i i don't give me something come on i i can't Come on. Come on. All the stuff we've been through. Come on.

I think. Give me one. I hear there's been multiple passes on that script. And someone is getting tired of doing multiple passes on that script. That's all I'm going to say. So that's what I'm hearing. And again, all right. You know, again from sources.

Yet again, dude. Take it as my number one point. This keeps happening. It's a joke. It's a joke. It's like, you know, you put someone through the system and it just just happens. It's like it bounced back and forth. Someone gets upset.

It's now they're overworked. It's like it's a joke. It's got a need to be replaced. Hank Pim, Cuckoo, blink twice and Strange Darling. Some really good horror thrillers this month. Have you guys checked any of them out? I have not. And that is probably because, like,

I'm sure you've had some pretty good horror movies and I will say that's probably great for people too. I haven't heard a lot of buzz on them. That doesn't mean that they're not, they're not good. But no, I haven't really seen them. Have you? No, I haven't seen any of those. And maybe those are the ones I should go see instead of shoving my ass into seeing the Crowe, that remake. Maybe I should go say cuckoo. I should go see Long Legas. I should go see you. Sorry, no, especially the, the, because I saw a lot of people telling me that's a good one too. So maybe I'll spend this week and go and see these films and jump over to the theater here close to my house and watch them because I want to see them.

All right. So this is Sean Peders. Looking back, thoughts on rise and fall of the online movies. I love Shmos, Collider and Screen Junkies, but knew once big corporations came in, they were doomed.

Glad you guys are still killing it. Thank you, Sean. Very kind of you. Yeah, I think we've had this conversation necessarily on this show, but we've talked about it before. What I think happened at one point was that you look at like the YouTuber that would talk into the camera and they would,

what Mark and I were doing, what Jeremy Johns was doing, what Stuckman was doing there. That is what the audience came for first. And then, as they mentioned, then companies got involved and said, well, we want to do that too,

but we want to make it into like the kind of news organizations with those kind of online pundits and do that. And they started building it out. But there was no real financial plan to keep that going with that many people. and it just and then eventually the fans also said yeah i don't think i like that as much anymore they did it first but then he said i don't know if i like it as much anymore i think i like to go back and it went back to this what we're doing now yeah in general because it feels more inviting it's more it was always one of those things i always felt more comfortable with this and i was and you know

Fernandez and i used to have the conversation where he's like he said to me when we were when they were doing he's like i feel like you're like the last of the YouTubers that we like have here, you know, like as far as YouTubers go, because it's just not, the rest of want to be pundits or turn movies into like, you know, it always felt too serious for me. You know what I mean? It always felt like, you know, we were trying to do world news with movie news and like breaking facts of like, let's, and it's like, it's movie news, you know, it's fun. But it's, and so I think that that's what happened. Yeah, it was the mixture of, uh, egos, uh, which is, you got to have that to succeed in this business in any business.

So he goes, people wanted to be taken seriously for their reporting. And it's like you're reporting on fantasy characters and fantasy stuff. And none of it is real. But it's real to the people who watch it, obviously, in terms of the effect the movies have on them. So it's fun. But like, you've got to keep it fun to turn it into such a serious thing. And we can't say this or we can't say that.

And I know a number of, and we just sawcombook. You know, Brandon leftcombook. That's a big shakeup now because a corporation took it over and is making changes. So, yeah, I think these corporations came in and they've changed some things. Even Penske, what they're doing with a lot of the trades. Like, there are certain articles you can write and certain articles you can't write. And this is the better approach of freedom and a feeling like we can say whatever we want, what we believe, what we hear, what we see, and have and not be worried about,

oh, why did you say that? Because now this actor or this studio will work with us. It's not. That was one of the things that I mean, people always wonder like why, because I have been, not the people. And I always preface it by saying, not the people that I did the show with. But I, at all the shows that I've ever done, I think I hate Collider Live the most. And I hate it.

I hate that show more than anything. And people are, why don't know you hate that show? Because I was that and Jedi Council was told the, well, you can't do this. Don't do that. You got to make sure you do this. I'm like, no. It's the stuff that we're doing, you know, on the fly that the fans are really enjoying. So they don't focus that much on that and the fart jokes and this and don't do that and don't do this.

And so if you stay with this person, it's like, forget it. And then you'd walk out of that room and you'd have a really good show. And then you basically, it was, it felt like like almost like high school. You walk out into the lobby and they didn't even talk into you. And it's like, you know, but 1.1 million on, on CM Punk's clip. No, that's not good. No, okay. I'll see you later.

Bye. And so like that kind of stuff. Like, no, I'm all right. Anyway, so there's a lot more to it. Now, this is from Mike Joyce. Rewatch Prometheus. That movie gets too much hate. Everyone would have fared much better if they weren't horny idiots.

How many conflicts happen because people are too horny for their own good? Yeah, that's true. People do get taken out because they're horn dogs. I don't remember Prometheus enough except the fact that they didn't like it as much, but I haven't revisited in quite a while. Yeah, I think it's full of good concepts, but the execution a lot of times and, you know, that weird accent that Idris Elba is doing and the Sharifah, least their own stuff doesn't really work overall.

So there's a lot in that film that's like, why is all of this any year? I didn't get to where you remember that she was even in that movie. She's a big part of the movie. Yeah, you're right. I remember now that you said it. All right, you and I have been getting along pretty much this whole episode, right? Uh-oh.

It's about the chain. Bring it on. All right, so Hank Pim. Julia Roberts looks like Dirk compared to Pew is what Hank, who the Hank says, okay? And we're going to follow this up. Just wait a minute. And then Pete Parker 2280 says the Julia Roberts discussion had me dying last week.

She's pretty, but saying she's pretty, but saying she has curves is a little crazy. I was always more of an absolute jump man. All right. So let's start with this. The whole conversation that we had last week about Julia Roberts, Interprime and Florence Pugh,

who's currently Interprime, both wonderful, both wonderful, but John talked to me like I was a crazy person saying Julia Roberts, movie star of our generation. And this is what we're talking about here. Where is it? Oh, hold on somewhere.

I can't find it. There it is. There it is. Make it full screen. You make it full screen? Oh, I can't. I didn't full screen. There you go. Okay. Yeah.

I don't know what you're looking at. I went to community college with the one on the left. I went to Harvard with the one. You're a lunatic. You're an absolute lunatic. I told my wife that you said this and she looked at me like I was telling her. Your wife looked like Julia Roberts. It's not what you say I'm on my wife then?

What are you saying about? It's a good thing. I don't find her. There's nothing wrong. She's objectively an attractive. person, I don't find your wife attractive. There's nothing wrong with it. Whoa, now you're getting red in the face from those conversations that you're saying. Now you owe me another scoop. You wouldn't be on a spot. Now you owe me another scoop. No, no. For you to benefit, I don't get any

benefit from it. Come on. Hey, don't pay you. I'm paying you now. Pay for the scoop. I love it. No, I mean, it's all, it's, of course, he's a objective. And before anyone gets nuts about the, of course, we're factoring the talent that's a massive part of all of this, of course. But no, to me, I, it's all, of course, it's subjective, right? and I just find Florence much more attractive than I ever found Julie, who objectively, of course, is attractive. I just don't find her attractive. It was a different business. Gosh, darn smoke show.

All right, here we go. Shane Markell, the crow, the movie was a 1.5. One of five, wow. Wow. One out of five, excuse me. Lots of telling, not enough showing. Scarsguard and Houston are the best parts. The film had flashes, a fleeting genius, a really disappointing misfire.

Any thoughts, fellas? You're the only one of the three of us had seen a show. Yeah. Well, I was in Florida and I was there for a couple of days. And I was going to actually go and try to, this was the conversation. Very similar to what you were just talking about before, John. I was with my dad and I was helping him out, you know, some stuff around the house. And then I was like, okay, maybe I'm going to go see this.

It was a Thursday night. I'll go see the crow doing out of the theater reaction. And then my brother texted me. He's like, hey, mom's in town with me, too. Do you want to go meet us for dinner? And I said, do I want to see the crow? or do I want to see my brother or my mom? I had a nice groupers and I went and had a good meal.

And I don't regret it at all. No. Because especially now I'm going to do these rewatches and everything too. I'm saying, you know, Matt Sarah and I watching the crow could be a lot of fun. Oh, that's a great pairing for that one. Yeah, that would be a lot of fun. So I think Matt Sarah and I will probably do that together. Nice.

Watch that. Dude, I just did his show. We just did the first episode for his show. Oh, nice. And he had on, I don't know if you remember Phoenix Carnival. She did the, she did some, some, some, what, Jen wasn't available to do one of our New York postgame things. And she came in because she came in.

She was great. She does MMA reporting. She's really, really good. And so her and Matt did the first episode and they break down from worst to best, the X-Men films. Wow. It's great.

It's a great episode. Yeah, Matt's, Matt is not short on personality. All right. So, yeah, it's a me, Steve. Saw the Union. Pure shit. What happened? a marking mark. So strangely enough, speaking of my beautiful wife, who looks like

a beautiful Julia Roberts, so she watched this. I did not see it. And she shares the sentiment of Steve-on and says it's garbage. Did you see this thing? No, of course not. It's Mark and Mark on streaming. I don't watch anything Marky Mark on streaming. One of my really good friends' kids are the babies in the family plan movie with him and Michelle Monnierich. It was fun. I still didn't watch that. That was a fun movie. He's hurt me so many times. That Paramount film was terrible. Paramount Plus film was horrible. Which one was that? I can't forget what it was called like some DNA mixing thing, whatever it was called. I kind of remember that. That's right. It was terrible. That was horrible. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. What the hell was that? What was that? What was? Yes. I remember because I remember being

excited for it. Yes. And just being left down. That's right. This is interesting. Let's play with this. And you watch it. Like, this was horrible. Yeah. Yeah. So, He's done way more misses streaming, so I don't take it too much. I can't tell you that you're wrong for thinking that. Anthony M7, 2, do you think that Lucasfilm should do another animated series in this style of Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch? Get phony back to doing what he's best. I would love to. It's so funny because years ago, I was always on the live action.

I know. I always wanting him to do something. And now I kind of want him to go back to animation. I think he shoots, I think he writes for animation, even when he's writing for live action. I think he, I think he directs in animation, even when he's directing in live action. I think that his strength is in animation. I think he puts together really good stories and stuff that he did in Rebels and Clone Wars was phenomenal.

I would love to see him go back, but I think we're too far past that now. And I think that he's, you know, if you look at in Game of Thrones, he's got, he's not going allowed it to thrown up that easy. Yeah, it's like John Wu, right? John Wu's Hong Kong stuff is fantastic. When John Wu came to America, he tried. to put his Hong Kong aesthetic onto American Western

films and it doesn't work and it didn't work, right? And so these are the same situation here when you look at it. It's, if Filoni, I think you're right, he writes for animation even when he's writing live action. Now you say that some of those scenes started popping in my head. I'm like, oh yeah,

those scenes would have totally worked in animation. The Stormtrooper, the Stormtrooper Asoka zombie stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it killed an animation. Oh, yeah. What a bomb, a total fart bomb in how it looked in. Yeah, he should be moved to the head of animation and kids stuff, that kid's programming. That's where Faloni, it probably thrives the best at, seems.

Yeah, yeah. Jake Rowan. Canary is apparently turned down salt. Yeah, we spoke about that. And thank you for that, by the way. So Tyler, right, oh, this is a tough one to read, John. Oh, how about them, Jack? Oh, that was brutal.

Brutal. brutal but I was in a good I this is something that did happen in Florida though because it's been harder and harder for me because once I've had um you know the family and stuff watching watching as much as sports as I tried to do as much as I can but I watched more Yankee games with my dad Florida than I have in I can't even tell you how long in general so I the second I got back I said the hell with it I signed up to the yes network and I just I have it I have it playing to my house even yesterday there's playing in my house day before playing out always going to be playing in my house down i have to have to go back to everything especially judge hitting two homers yesterday yeah i was like i got

i can't do this i can't just get updates from esp and i got i got to i got to have the games on my my little one now so if i had a judge shirt on and she's just like hey she goes normal families have the baseball playing in the background with the music down sometimes dad that's okay that's normal families i don't know she's talking about you Hollywood types You know what, normal families. All right. Motor rolling. What's up, Joe?

The shows, the show's not going forward. They don't want it. Say it louder for everyone in the back and the fan accounts that have nothing between the ridiculous hashtag for the past week and a half. Look, it's the same thing I say. I bring up our buddy, John Hoey, all the time. Yeah, Johnny. If you really want to do a freaking make solo to happen, hashtag,

if that makes you feel good and you want and you're fighting for the show that you like, and do it. It means nothing. It means nothing. I think 40,000 people signed to the Accolate Season 2 thing. 40,000. 40,000. And put a, put a, put a, put a, put a hundred dollars on each one of them.

It doesn't, doesn't, doesn't even crack a, a, a smidget of, drop, drop a penny into an empty tin bucket. That's what it sounds like for 40,000 people. It does. Nothing. And the same way that Solo two lost so much money, it does. nothing. Do your hashtag as much as you want. It means nothing. But it makes you feel better. Exactly. Then you should do it.

Yeah. And people, you guys shouldn't get upset about it because look, they've got a right to express their feelings that they support and love the show. You've got a right to just scroll on past that. That's what I do. They have every right to fight for it. Go and fight for it. But I can also. But I can do this. What is it? Oh, make accolades. That means nothing. Yeah, exactly. That's what I do. That will go nowhere.

I'm allowed to do that in the same way that. They're allowed to fight for it. Exactly. Because I think that when you go back, I think there's a couple places, you know, a couple shows that did work where it's like, hey, get it renewed, there's enough, or get it to another streaming platform justice.

Yeah, yeah. There's things that happen like that, but it's also, this is a different situation where if it gets, it's not gonna pick that from another network, it can't. No. So, you know, there's times that shows get canceled and then another network picks it up and says,

we'll take it. But that's not gonna happen here, for sure. Tim Sim, great Tim Sim. As someone who's made peace with season two not happening due to lower viewers, giving its high budget, accepted being in the minority who enjoyed accolade, let me stop. I haven't even read the rest. Okay.

I wish that more fans were like Tim Sim. Yeah. In that particular, that is the statement. Yeah. That it's crucial to all of this. He says, look, I loved this show. I really enjoyed it. I really enjoyed it, but I understand.

It didn't make money. It didn't do very well. and had too big of a budget. Classic. And he said, it's tough being the grown-up in the community saying Aclyde is over despite a petition. Understood. But Tim, look, the same side of what we just talked about,

if it makes people feel better, let them do it. To me, it just comes back to this, it is a unfortunate thing where it has become this politicized thing, where there is two sides that are fighting against each other and the people like yourself in the middle of it going, hey, I like there's a go, it just didn't do very well. well, shut up, we love it. Shut up. We hate it. That's what that's all, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, it's, that's, it's, that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, but, but, but, but just because he liked it and a couple of the people like it.

It wasn't enough for us to keep this thing going. Hey, Freaks and Geeks was canceled after one season. Ask Sam Lee about it. Oh, my so-called life. careful after one season. So fun. I got it. Sam had a great comment. I went to, so speaking to my little one, we watched one bite pizza, you know, the reviews that Portnoy does. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. We wanted

to get a couple spots out here. So we went to this place and I let my little one pick the one that he ranked kind of higher and she's like, yeah, let's go to that one. So he drove out and went out to this place and did it.

And she was, and And she was just really excited about it. She gave a review of it. It was adorable. Both my kids, like, scored it. It was great. But I posted a picture of the place on my, my Instagram. And Sam Levine goes, they say you can't, you can't taste photos.

They are wrong. That's great. Carlton wrote her. Love your shirt, Johnman. Thanks to Christian for his Patreon studio tour. You're welcome. Also, respect to Dan Merrill for his video announcement. Oh, is that out?

Yeah. So Dan put out a video today and just- I gotta watch it. Yeah, he's just, you know, Dan's, Dan's, um, Dan's going through some stuff. And so Dan is, uh, Dan's going on and doing his own, you know, some changes going on. And I texted them this morning and, and, uh, I owe him a text for sure.

Yeah, we love them to death. So, yeah. Um, and then yeah, my pay, I did a studio tour, you know, I did two, two things. There's a couple things of people to know on Patreon, what we just started doing. And I love, so glad that we did this. We were doing these one-on-one sessions for a bit. And it was like,

half an hour of just me and somebody kind of talking for half an hour and it was great and I got to know a lot of people. But then we came up with this idea of like the bar and we brought in like 10 people and we have this conversation and I've got all these different people who have been talking to for a bit like they're talking to each other and they're having these conversations and we're cracking up and laughing. It's like for a full hour. I've done this. So if you guys want to come and we're talking about the acolyte. We're talking about everything. So if you want to join up and you want to be part of it, go to patreon.com slash big thing show. It's in the description and join the bar. You get to meet a lot of different people.

And it's fun. I'll be there every month. Do we do it like two or three times a month? And we have a bunch of great conversations. So if you want to join, you should. I'd love to meet some more. Okay. Let's go to the next one.

And I think we are at Sam. Yes, we are. Sam Mock. Thoughts on the Secret Level show announced. It's a 15 episode anthology series for big video game properties. They could get, they could be great backdoor pilots. I don't know enough about that. to you, John? Yeah, we did the trailer

review on Geek Buddies over this past week, which if guys haven't watched us up on the channel. And yeah, that looks fantastic. I was really surprised that they were able to get so many video game companies to be a part of this and have their content used in a new

way and stories written with these different characters from these video games and compiling them into a series. So it's exciting. I haven't seen Love Death and Robots, but this, this now has my interest. and I may watch it when it drops for sure. All right, Tim Sim.

That said, I hope two things continue. If Lucasfilm Creative Reset is needed in Star Wars, keep the diverse casting and creatives coming, keep venturing into new areas and bold, new original directions. Don't overmoke the flowing versus death. Agree. So look, this is the thing, and I can't, and this is a point that I think Phoenix makes on,

on Matt show. Phoenix, I think is, I believe she's Puerto Rican. I don't want to, I think. Um, just personal wealth. Yes. And her point is that she, what she said is that, of course, diversity is important. Of course it is.

Right. But when it's forced, not only do the people who want to hate it, yep, feel it. The people you're trying to help feel it. Yeah. And that is, that's, that's a disservice. So there's nothing, everybody should get opportunities. Everybody should get opportunities.

But when you make it a thing because you don't want to get yelled out on Twitter or that's when it becomes a problem, when it becomes so clear that you're just doing it because you want to say, hey, look how great we are. Look what we're doing. That's the problem. And it's becoming so clear to people that they're going, no, it doesn't work. It's not that wasn't the right fit.

Right for that one. But I agree with you, Tim. I think that there needs to be a lot of different things. And I hope that what they don't take, I feel like that what this regime will do is go, oh, see, nobody wants high republic stuff that didn't do well. It's like, no, nobody wants bad writing. Right. Exactly.

Yeah. And so, yeah, keep everything coming, but keep it coming. in good content. And I agree with Phoenix because I've come to that place. You know me from the beginning. I was drumming. I don't care. Put it in there. But now it's very clear that it's hurting both sides if you don't do it in the right way. You know, like America Frera or America Chavez in Multiverse of Madness was a horrific introduction of that character in a Dr. Strange movie. And it should have been much better in a different situation. So yeah, representation is fine, shoved in, not so good. Agreed.

I am too fly can't. I think Canobie was even worse than Accolite by all measures. Anyway, I canceled Disney Plus and I won't be coming back. Star Wars is in a coma. Not going to disagree on the Star Wars is a coma part. I think that there was more stuff in Canobi that I liked than I did an acolyte. I just, but I'm not going to, I'm not going to argue with you on it because there's so much, like, it's really hard to get over that Benny Hill scene in Obi-Wan.

It really is. It's really, and there's so much, there's so much wrong in that show. So I can't really argue with you on it. But, but yeah, so I don't know how you feel about it, John. Yeah, can you delineate? You got to delineate, right? Like, Moses Ingram is a good actress. I like the Riva character.

That wasn't where the character should have been in. It totally took away from what we wanted, which is Kenobi versus Vader, somehow, crossing over, seeing each other. I mean, the, the comic book does a great job of having Vader cross past or or get close to characters that still keeps the canon of what we know. I think they should have worked a lot harder to do that in that show. And I didn't mind the little Princess Leia, but I agree with you. Turning it into a comical joke at times was frustrating, you know.

All right. Here's our buddy. Matt Sinister McAll rank these five movies worst to best that disturb me. American History X, The Witch, Schindler's List, Human Centipede, and Polar Express. It's hilarious. All right. So from as far as quality goes, I would say human centipede at number five. Sure.

Number four is Polar Express. Number three, I'm probably going to put the witch. Number two, American History X and the number one, similar. Yeah, I'll have to go with that exact list. That is my five as well in order. I agree. Yeah, I mean, just those are all, the top three are all really good movies. Yes.

Timson. Also, to paraphrase what Molly Damon said in a recent Star Wars experience, explain video from here on out after accolaced cancellation why bother following every new star wars project to come and give it a chance if we hear it's terrible what do you mean if it's here it's terrible what does it what does that mean if we hear he's saying that if if uh their voices are loud enough to say it's terrible that's affecting people coming to watch the show that's that's that's nonsense i'll show you a bunch of terrible movies that critics destroyed and made hundreds and millions of dollars so it's it's it's not that if that's what mollie was

saying and all respect to Molly. I don't agree with that at all. It's not this is the thing is people aren't going like, oh, look, a bunch of anti-woke people hate it. I'm not going to watch it. That's not actually what's happening. Look, Molly was very vocal on how much she loved the show. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's great. She's clearly hurt. The show got, didn't get, didn't get renewed. And that's understandable. She loved the show. Yeah. But I don't agree with that where it comes to like, well, if we're going to get invested in and someone else doesn't like it, then it gets pulled, again, this is a $180 million show that didn't deliver on the quality to get everyone on board.

So that's the whole thing. And if a show is good enough, it'll stick on. It'll stick and it'll stay on. If the majority of people continue to like it, it'll get renewed for a second season. If you make a, if Obi-Wan, look, Obi-Wan's a show that didn't get renewed, by the way. Yeah. Obi-1 didn't get renewed. There's the writing campaign for that.

And that show cost $80 million. Yeah. Almost $100 million less than this show. And arguably it looked better. I don't know. The volume was pretty strong, but it was also pandemic stuff going on in there. But still, you know,

and that was the same thing. People weren't on board with it. Mandalorian. People are on board with it. Got a season two. And or people were on board with it. Got a season two. And majority,

and like, you know, it's, it's about majority stuff. So that's, yeah. Yeah. People don't listen to these anti-woke YouTubers at the numbers that the other side think that they do. They don't. They're a convenient scapegoat for the other side's anger.

And I get it. I've been on both sides. I get it. But like to me, that's not actually why the show failed. The show failed because people came in millions and millions in the first two episodes and bailed. And not everybody's part of this war between the people who love and people going, I just don't like the show. I always use my friend John Pinto as an example. He said to me, he's like, how is this new Star Wars show?

He's terrible. He's not paying attention to the, yeah, the Twitter stuff. He heard from people that he knows and he works all day and then he goes, how's the Star Wars? I watch it. I don't know what that is. I'm not watching it. And he doesn't watch it. And that's what happened. Logic means to override feelings and sometimes in these situations. Yeah. Julius Wyatt, love watching you guys talking news every week. How come you get an apology here? John, I'm sorry about FSU Saturday. If I've been more vocal of an FSU than you are.

That's true. I have a show you. That's true. Hopefully they bounce back and have a good season. Have a good week, guys. We can only hope. Not with that quarterback, they won't. No, I know. The guy, you know, 13 out of his 19 passes were five yards downfield. I know.

That's horrible. I know. Tim Sim, again, Twitter these past days have been tempting me with Save the Acklead showing on my trending for you page and showing me tweets about saying it's disingenuous not to give Acklead a chance to perform. It's not. It's not. It's not. Because if you have a $180 million show, And it doesn't crack the top 10.

Yeah. That's not disingenuous. That's smart business. Because if you put another, how much, and this is what I say, this is what I said to P. Jenner was talking to. Tim, I'll ask you this question, too. Tim, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you a season two. How much budget are you asking for for season two?

Yeah. And that's, and then you come back and you tell me how much now. After season one didn't perform and you couldn't get season two or the finale, you couldn't get it into the top 10. How much you're asking for season? into. And that would be my answer if I'm by and I are going, how much? And if it's anything

higher than $50 million, you're not getting a yes. Also because it's, because like you said, 50 million, how many of those actors are going to want to come back for a pay cut? Put that on the table. You make a whole new cast if you want. You'd have to do it. You'd have to.

I guarantee you that I come back. And you make you make five, what I would do is here's what you get. You're getting $50 million. You've got to get new actors to come back. if they're going to ask for pay for pay increases, and you're getting five episodes. Yeah. That's it.

Done. So Matt Sinnerson McCall. That Snyder off today is having remandification with Don Chiedel in North Korea. Oh, all right. If you're in an empty theater, what is the best place to sit? Whether I'm an empty theater, I always pick,

my seats are always the same. No matter of empty or I sit on the, Ellis and I made a habit of this from the heydays of Shmos, and I still do it. It's in the stadium seating. It's always top left. and it's usually the two the two seats still left. Depends on the size of the theater,

but I agree with Christian. I've started to move to the top left, top right of a theater. If it's a small theater and there's not a lot of people in it or an IMAX theater with not a lot of people in it, I sit dead middle, but all the way to the right or all the way to the left and rows away from people.

So I can be alone when I'm watching the movie. Yeah. All right. Next one, Blake Gilbert. Roker. What's your beef at Julia Roberts? Yeah, Roca, your beef at Julia Roberts. I don't have any beef.

I just don't find her attractive, but that doesn't mean she's not objectively attractive to other people. It doesn't mean she's not, she doesn't deserve her success because she does, you know, so. Let me just slide over. Personal preference. You know what? Some people don't think Brad Pitt's attractive and that always blows my mind when women say that. So it's all taste. It's all personal taste.

I got to read. I love you, Julia. Yeah, she's watching. Justin is a square. Happy Monday. I guess Lionsgate missed the memo. There's a reason Professor Crow wants everyone to stop talking about the crow. Just saying, it's true.

You remember Professor Crow, John? What's a professor? Is that one of the voices you do? There's one of the characters in the S-E-N. I haven't done it in so long. I've almost forgotten how to do it. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Yeah. All right. Roman Fedorak. Hey, guys, awesome show as always. Thank you, sir. Question. Do you think that Kathleen Kennedy received any flack from Eiger? after Indy 5 lost big last year,

not a Kathleen Kennedy hater, but I'm surprised that we'd not hear anything. I'm sure put her more into the microscope. I don't understand how that works. I just don't. It's like that one, that's a major misfire. That's a $300 million movie that lost a lot of money, lost a lot of money on a classic IP again

that I thought again was approached very poorly. So I'm sure the conversation was had, and I'm sure the conversation is had. When's our next movie? This is why the Faloni Fabro, excuse me, the Favro, Mandelorian and Grogu movie, that movie has been obviously fast-track. Fabro is going to be making all of the shots on that movie. And that movie will do well, I think, and I've said this, John,

I think that that film alone will for the most like the original trilogy than anything we've seen at all. Yeah, I think you might be right on that, on that end for sure. And hopefully it does nail it because certainly they need to have that. You need some. They need to win. They need it. They need it.

Yeah. Warner Brothers Discovery, this is from Sean O'Rourke. Thank you, Sean. Warner's Discovery is a huge financial mess. I doubt that James Gunn will have his DCU slate realized. If Superman makes less than the Batman, the DCU will be in trouble. I don't disagree with that last part of it. I mean, everybody understands Superman has to be a big hit in order for this thing to continue on in the way that he wants.

Right? 100%. 100% I mean, it just it's the it's the right gamble to take but it's a gamble but it's a right it's the right gamble to take now that movie's going to cost money there's there's we've talked about the idea of the not the reshoots and all that stuff there's a reason and he's making all these decisions he's got a game plan so we just got to see whether or not uh it's going to work yeah so we'll see um okay next one we got a lot you guys have really been Thank you.

Thank you so much. Sam Mock, what happened to the Calcestis show you reported? That was another one. So I had heard a while ago, man, that they were, as they were throwing everything against the wall. Yeah, sure. That was another one. He was in talks, the main kid from that who plays Calcestis was in talks.

I still very, very reputable person that I talked to. That was the thing that they were thinking about doing. Now, whether or not, why they didn't, I even said inside the report, is like, what these things can fall apart at any given time. And with Lucasfilm, it happens every other. Tuesday, but it was very much real. It's just a question of what happened. I don't know at all.

I don't anything about that, so I can't comment. Yeah, I had heard that quite a while ago, and I said, you know, even when I reported on it, I was like, yeah, but whether or not that happens, who knows? Mike Joyce, have you seen the report on budget for wolves? No, what is that? I mean, that's George Clooney movie, right? Yes, yes. I think they were paid 20 million each, and John Watts got

15 million. I think. I think that's what was reported. The two of them alone were 20, four, so we're looking at 55 million before we even roll hands? I think, I think. Please look that up. I'm looking it up right now. Oh my God. Pretty sure I'm right on this. That's a crazy. We're not making movies like that anymore, guys. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, here we go. You keep going. I look it up. All right. So this is from Luke Skywanker. Have you seen, seen Strange Darling. It's pretty good. Which one's that? Strange Darling is the, um, Oh, is the, um, the shining day tomorrow? No, no, that's the don't blink twice. Oh. Strange Darling is the kind of like the smaller indie one that's coming up. I don't know that

it's with Willa Fitzgerald and from J.T. Malner. Oh, right. Yeah. No, I've seen it. No. Uh, Gerey Manan really loved Alien Romulus. Hope we get more soon. Me too. I want to see Fetty Alvarez do more stuff. I'm a big Fedialv fan now. Agreed. I was before, but I'm, I'm even more because I really want to see him do a Terminator movie. I'm going to put that out there every time I talk about him because I want to put it into the universe. So, okay. Yeah, go ahead. John, please.

Yeah, 35. So it's 35 million each, Clooney and Pitt. Cluny and Pitt and 15 million for John Watts. $35 million each? That's according to the New York Times. They're getting roughly the exact same salary, roughly 35 million. The film's director, John Watts, who previously had Spider-Man Homecoming. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

I'm not going to know with this 35 million thing. You said 15, but you said that they're getting, so could it potentially be that they're getting like 17 each? No, 35 million each, the same salary each. Who greenlights this? Apple, Apple, Apple spends $200 million from movies like nothing. You know what? I mean, I don't know their business model. I don't know, like, but I don't know.

Like maybe, maybe because it's going to go direct to Apple on, you know, and it's going to be one of their big movies that they pay for. So that's how they justify. I don't know how they look at it. Do they sign ups up? But that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I don't know enough about their business model because I see stuff like that all the time. But that's, I don't know how do you justify that? I don't know.

That movie? You come out with a new MacBook Pro every year. That's how you justify it. And you can just throw it away and who cares. Yeah, you charge $2,000 to $3,000. And who cares? I guess, I guess you're right. Pete Parker 2288, loving bad monkey.

Who's that Spanish actors? Oh, yeah. Bad monkeys. Are you seeing this, Christian? I watched episode one with, my wife and I liked it. Did you like it? I've already finished the whole season. Is it good?

It is so effing good. Okay. Okay. I'm glad to you said. The drivers were terrible. Okay. I did not expect good things, but then the reviews came out. A lot of people were positive about us. So we'll give it a chance.

So we saw the first couple of episodes on Friday. We blazed through it this weekend and finished it all. All right. I'm glad you said that because my, and I almost forgot about it because before I left for Florida, my wife and I watched it. And she's like, do you want to keep watching? I like, I like the first episode. I don't know if I'm as infested yet, but I'm curious.

And I said, so well, let's watch episode two. So I'll watch that. It's good to know. Tell you, tell you. Tell you, I tell you. Tell you.

I will say. And I'm not just saying this because she's my wife. I will tell you that I think that my wife is more attractive. My wife. Nice. Shane. I haven't watched Picard, but I heard that Terry Mattis is a good showrunner.

Yeah, you love that show. Yeah, I love Picard season three. And Terry was very kind when the geek, were reviewing it, Terry personally reached out to me a DM on Twitter and was very kind and was very happy. We were drumming up support. And then, of course, people got on board with it and it became a massive hit. So more for Terry to do is a great thing. And people should go back and revisit his 12 Monkeys series, which I thought was fantastic as well. So shout out to Terry. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. All right. So I heard you, I heard that's a really good show. People

love that show. I don't know if Oliver, well, who am I bullsharing? I'll never watch. I don't know. I I didn't mind the the JJ one. Oh yeah, the reboot. Yeah, I didn't mind. It was a good one. Shane Adams. Have you guys heard about Brandon Davis?

No. Yeah, all I heard is that he's leftcombook.com and he did a video about it, but I didn't watch the video. I just heard that he left. And maybe there's some changes coming. But that's all I've heard.

You know, all the outlets, man, they've all gone through changes. Yeah, that's true. No, I didn't hear anything about it, though. Okay.

Let's see. Tom Hanks. I was looking Tom Hanks. I just wanted to thank you for all the great videos and content. Thank you, Mr. Hane. Getting married this week, congratulations. So we'll listen on the repeat. Also, no more accolite. Yeah.

That's what it looks. Wow. Well, okay. Let's see the next. Yeah, I see. Oh, good. Today, I was so confused with our audience because last week, the audience was on your side with the Florence Pugh thing.

This week, it seems to be on my. No, you're hallucinating. They're all right. I'm reading it. Look, I'll give you, I give you credit when credits do, but right now, you're an idiot is what they're saying. I didn't write it. That's what they said. I didn't write it.

My sources tell me you're an idiot. My source is to say. Yeah, that's right. Tim Sim, long story short, after Accolates cancellation, entertainment business sucks. It is what it is. It doesn't suck. Stop it, Tim. Tim, look, my man.

it's a business. You even said it yourself in your last comment. It didn't, it didn't do the ratings. Why aren't you mad at people not watching the show? Go get mad at the people who didn't watch the show. Why are you mad at the studios? That's how we hold the studio hostage.

We watched the show. Watch the shows. You're forced to make more. Well, my brother, my brother actually said this. And this is, and he,

and he, this is what he said in the beginning of. He said, I've heard nothing but bad things about that act like, and he's a big Star Wars fan. Yeah. And he said, I'm not,

watching this show. He said, I'm not going to watch it. He's like, unless I started hearing. If you start, if you tell me that it's really, really great and I start hearing from other people, then maybe I'll go back and watch it. It's like, but I'm not doing that thing anymore where I'm hoping that Asoka's good and Obelon's good. And then I watch it. And I tell them by me watching it, that I want more of this. He's like, I'm not watching. He's like, I'm not going to watch it because maybe if enough people don't watch it, they won't make stuff like this. And he's like, again, if you tell me it's good, then I'll watch it. And I said, I can't tell you that. And then so he didn't watch it. And there's more people who, in the same way you just said,

have more people, you don't, don't scream and yell and tell people how much they're worthless or horrible or, you know, whatever it is. Just don't watch it. And, and I think Leslie Edlin even said that to people. You don't like our show, don't watch it. I think that they heard that message. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. Armada. They should have made the Professor Crow movie instead of starring Bobby Finstock and Beth Snyder. Yeah, I'm on board with that. I think it'll be a good movie. Tulloch Horde and the Ackleid Orchestra. Wow.

It's hilarious. I actually have a band called Tulloch Horde and the Accolid Orchestra. And I'm grateful that people can actually spell acolyte thanks to the show. That's great. Beforehand, nobody could spell it. Oh, that's hilarious. That was his actual shape. Amazing.

All right. Let's go. We keep going here. Haskell, 420. Oh, man. I watched the Christopher Reeve Story trailer. Dude, I missed both screenings for that. Oh, really?

So the one screening I had was in the city. And I was with and I was going to, my family was going to come in with me and they were going to do their own thing and I was going to see it. And then I just, my wife and kids had not been in the city yet. And I was like, I took the day off from work and I spent time with them. And then the next one that they had, I was in Florida. Oh, yeah. But I am groupers. I'm so looking forward to that.

Yeah, I'm seeing it tomorrow at 4.30. Oh, are you? Okay. Afternoon here in San Diego. So you want to talk to. Yeah, I will for sure. I'll get my steak while I'm at it. To luck ward, following back up. I have issues with Filoni because the suspension of disbelief required is extreme.

He's a grievous laughing inconsistency. Yeah, he does that, though. He does, I'm telling you, he takes too much. There's what Flonnie does well is he takes all the positives. Yeah. Of what George Lucas did. And he takes all the stuff that made George Lucas. great. He uses that. And that's why he does some great stuff. The negative is he takes all

the stuff that George Lucas was not great at and follows that also. Yeah. He's clearly taking that page off of his dialogue. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's 100%. He's a great storyteller, terrible writer. As far as, I mean, he's, he's getting, his writing is getting worse and worse every show that he does. Okay. So that was to look cord. And then next. one is from Keith Kildov. Hey. From Ireland. I was at the game.

It was class. That must have been a fun game to be at. I mean, they went all the way down to a field goal. I know. It was back in that atmosphere to be watching that too. Dude, those packages sold out immediately.

I took a look. There was like 9,000 to go down there. Speaking of my brother, it's hilarious. He texted me, he said, Hey, you see your,

your ex-girlfriend was there. I'm like, 25 years ago. Who was your ex-go? This is a friend of mine that was at, Was that the game? Oh, that's fun. She's at the game.

Yeah, she was at the game. And he's like, do you see her? And I'm like, yeah, I was like, yeah. She got a side of her. She looked like Sandra Bullock. I'll tell you that. You find her attractive? Send me a picture.

Oh, yeah, I think Sandy's attractive. It's a Virginia girl. Come on. Shane Adams, to bring up Star Trek again. I hear those shows are doing well. Maybe Lucasfilm should look how they are doing those at examples. I think that if they try to do the tone of, because look, If they would have done, because for people's criticisms on Andor, right?

Yeah. That it was slower, that it didn't have, you know, lightsabers and didn't feel it. Imagine if they would have done that kind of writing and tone with Obi-Won. Yeah. You know, then those same people who didn't like Andor, I think they're singing a different tune about it. Terry Metallus's Obi-1 Canobe series is someone,

is one I would sign up for. 100% because you could argue it's kind of correlative an older guy coming back you know we're trying to recapture what happened dealing with stuff from the past could have totally worked in terrametallus's hands and so yeah I agree and he's right like discovery is the anomaly there because lower decks does well people love prodigy uh Picard season three was incredible and strange new worlds is fantastic so yeah I agree all right uh Renee race it's funny hearing you both explain the reasons why I couldn't renew but This is the world we live in, guys, constantly explaining. I know.

It's just, you know, and it's less about, and it is, it's arguing common sense against emotion is ultimately what it is. Because when you look at, when you look at this, when you look at the people that are really arguing on both sides, that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Let's see. Where are we have? Oh, hey. Limp 22KZ. Do you think Deadpool will make Disney realize? that they can make money by making known properties more adult, hoping Star Wars starts doing it in films. I think that they can,

but this is the thing, this is the conversation around me. I think Disney's already aware of that. Oh, yeah. The question is, if I can rephrase that for you, do you think that Deadpool will now make Disney go forward with their realization

that they are making money by making known properties and replace the organization in Lucasfilm that doesn't realize that? Yeah, that's the question because Disney knows it. Disney also runs the Fox. They run, they have Alien Romulus, they have all these movies. They have movies. They have movies. They have movies. They have movies. Each company runs a portion of their movies.

Yeah. They've got to replace who's running Lucasfilm. That's the number one thing. You have to replace not just Kathleen Kennedy. They need to replace a lot of people in there. Yeah. Okay. Let's see. again to you they bring George Lucas back the new regime no no no no no when George Lucas is not he's nowhere

nowhere near able to do do the guys I don't mean that he's going to come back into a movie I mean they bring him back talking to consult is yes bigger part of the oh crap and shits us back hey preseason is over

can't wait for the NFL season here we go Brownies here we go wolf let's go Giants I know you're a Giants fan now I tried to watch the hard knocks, bro. You can't do it, huh? I hate your team so much. I can't do it.

You told me that. I can't do it. You told me that. Although the Sequin part was a lot of fun watching us fumble away Sequel. How dare you? All right, let's see. We got some more. I want to say something.

I signed up for a direct ticket. For those of you who are military members, if you're not signed up for ID. Dot me, sign up for ID. me, I got $280 off the NFL Sunday's direct ticket. So if you are a sponsor or former military, you can sign up at ID. Me, use your DD214 or whatever your credentials are. They check it. And if you qualify, then you get all these coupons and rebates.

And I cash that one in. And so I'm going to enjoy direct ticket this season big time. So yeah. All right. No, it's good. Shout out. Aiden, Qain. There's a great fan film on YouTube called Darth Mall.

I heard this actually. Apprentice. I heard it was as good as Acclite. It looks as good as Acclite. And it definitely didn't cost $1. Yeah, I actually heard that it was. pretty good Darth, Darth,

Marathonus, I think, I think that maybe, is that the one that I actually saw? I don't remember, but I know, I'm aware of that one.

I just don't know if I've seen it or not. I can't remember. All right. Julius Wyatt. I sometimes forget the you had to have an issue. Sorry about your football team. Go,

John's definitely more vocal about this stuff in general. Wow. 2016, 33 million views. Wow. Okay. What was? Darth Mall apprentice.

Wow. Good. That's 2016, and I definitely have seen that. i've seen i know exactly what it is he's running around in the forest and stuff it's pretty good i am jacks 12 take the names out show a has budget x and viewership why if the math problem doesn't end up then it doesn't get renewed it's easy it's a hundred percent it's i'm telling you it's it's it's subtracting emotion because if you did exactly what you just said to those people who

were who were out there talking about how it needed to get renewed if you if you bring up another circumstance and you just said okay look here's a show that i have and we just put 180 million dollars into this show and we tried to do some new things with it some people like it, but for the most part, it debut at X amount of views, the second one did a little less than it did less and less and less. And the season finale didn't crack the top 10. What do you think? They would say it probably won't get renewed. Yeah. It's just, as you said, it's just it's a matter, matter of emotion. Aurek your roadhouse. Love you guys. Did you see Snyder's article there? He said Kathleen Kennedy is expected to leave Q2 of next year. If I had a dollar for every time

I've heard that though. Nothing against Jeff. I mean, he very well could have could have heard that. But I mean, how many times have you heard over the last five years? Oh yeah, she's leaving after this. She's leaving after this. I think Campia said that at one point, I'm guaranteed. There's no way. She's coming back after Indiana Jones. She's still here. So there's people have said that many times over. I just, I feel like it's almost like this thing where she's just like it's almost like, Wolf of Wall Street. I'm not going anywhere. I don't think she's, I don't see, I mean, when it happens, it'll happen, but I don't know. Do you think it's going to happen?

I don't fucking go. I don't fucking go. I should have done that in my retirement. I swear to God I should have done that. Just before, I walked off the stage. No, yeah, yeah, I said this before. Jeff and I talked about it off, off mic before the show. And so that he put it into his article is kind of funny because he told me not to say anything.

So, Jeff wanted the shine on it. That's fine. But I felt the same way. And that's what I think now is, and I don't mean they're going to fire. I think it's going to be like, she's going to step down. It's going to be an old thing. But yes, I think it's the first time I've ever conceived that it's very possible. And so I think it wouldn't be surprised if she's gone in 2025, would not be surprised at all.

It's about money. Before the movie comes out? Which one? Mandelorian Grogu? Yeah. Because it would make sense to me if it was. After that. Yeah, I think after.

Because then it's walk off the court. Right. Here's my fifth Star Wars movie that just made a billion dollars. Even though you could argue she might have nothing to do with it because Fabro is pretty much much. Names on the credits. Then you get credit for it. You get to come. Yes.

It doesn't matter who says, oh, how much did you ever? It doesn't matter. Names on the credits. And then you can leave with, I, I, the trilogy hit a billion dollars. Rogue one hit a billion dollars. That hit a billion dollars. Mandalorian Season 1, Season 2, nominated for Emmys on Obi-1, nominated for Emmys on, you know, Acolyte. Where's my next job?

Yeah. I think, yeah, go ahead. No, go ahead. I think she's been determined to do a Ray movie. And this is why she brought back Daisy. She wants to redeem it. She's mad how the sequel trilogy went down. I think she wants to do a Ray movie.

That being said, though, if the Mandelor, if, you know, Iger looks at things and is like, look, I know you want to do this, we're not going to do it. If we do it, we're going to have someone else do it. But, you know, thanks for all your service. I would not be surprised if it happens after Mandalorian and Groga. Would not be surprised. That's the way to do it. Yeah. That's the way to do it.

You'll go out on a guaranteed win. Yes. Shane Adams, do you think Disney's going to remove or would remove the accolator from streaming to not pay the talent residuals? Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing, Christian. Because a lot of people are like, well, they took Willow down. But that was like, I think they saw that as egg on their face type of show.

This is something else. And I mean, if they did that, dude, it would be massive backlash. So I don't think they're going to do it. But I bet they're going to make it really hard for you to find if you want to watch it on the service. I'll put money on that. Farrow vibes. As a black person in this society, I'm tired of being told that I should enjoy content because there is someone that looks like me on screen. Make good stories and characters.

The act like failed to do so. Here, here. Totally fair. And I don't want to disagree. It was a very kind thing. he pretty much just made his stamp and kind of dropped the mic. But that's kind of what we were talking about. It's like you've got to make everybody want the stories.

And I'm sure the Pharaoh vibes was saying, well, this is great. What a great cast? But then watching it going, what is this? Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Neeks, 2890, Collider Live,

the best show on the YouTube's. False. Love you both. Keep it up, guys, and cheers from Disneyland. It's one of the shows that if I can go back in time, I always think about it. I would tell myself, don't do that. Don't do that.

No, thank you. Yeah. All right. First rate, Nate. J-Lo is more talented than Florence. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

Oh, oh, John. Uh-oh. Look at them. Jay-zo is a TV movie talent that somehow got to feature films. Come on. It's, look, no offense, but Florence Pugh. I mean, Florence Pue and a coma is better than J-Lo, for God's sake. There's nobody, there was nobody in her in that audience, huh?

Is that true? Was that, oh yeah. Oh, yeah. First sent me a TikTok from her opening show. But is that rehearsals or was that real? No, that was real.

That was her opening show. And it was terrible. That's why she canceled the concert like a few weeks later because nobody was buying the tickets. And you want to talk about social media? TikTok went after her and started posting unedited audio of her singing. And that just destroyed her. And then all these stories came out about how other people were singing her songs

and how her producer stole songs from other people to make her, put her on it. So yeah. And now she did this whole, I mean, Christian, she did this whole documentary about how she found love after all this time with Ben Affleck and all this stuff. And they got divorced within the same year that the documentary and album came out crowing

about their love. Like that is, it's been a rough year for J-Lo, but well-deserved. I think well-deserved. Next super chat. Oh, wait, that's not a super chat. Sam Mock. I bet Favro takes over for Kathy. I hope not. I love Fabro, but you know, now, John Fabra shouldn't be running all Lucasfilm.

John Favre should be directing projects and do a couple, but no, they need an executive. They need an executive that is going to be creatively involved, understands, wants to reshape the whole thing and put together a whole new team. That's what they need. Not Favro. Favro is great. He's super creative, but that's not, that's not the way to go. Not to run all of Lucasfilm because you're not just dealing with start.

Wars you're dealing with everything you're dealing with every technical thing that comes with it so he's he doesn't want to do that tv shows that parks everything yeah uh fireside reviews john have you seen the trailer for the piano lesson it's intense and beautiful no yeah we talked about it last week on on the hot mike uh jeff and i uh liked that trailer it's a netflix trailer with um samuel jackson is based on august wilson play and it's about this piano that is connecting to the generations of uh this black family from slavery to now. And so it's a fascinating trailer. And I hope the movie is good because I like August Wilson stuff.

Awesome. All right. This is then Justin A. Square. Thoughts on the Brett Roxy episode last week. So Brett, well, so I was, you know, I was out of town. So on Wednesday or yeah, it was Wednesday they shot it. It was Roxy hosted while I was at it. But I had to set up the things.

And Brett was trying to set up this program that I use. And it was a whole thing for a while. And then they finally shot it. Roxy had to jump off because she. only had an hour and a half scheduled out. The prepping alone was like almost two hours before they finally got going. And then they sent it to me and it was hilarious. Brett had to take over and host the show by himself, the second half of the show.

And he sent it to me, did two trailer reactions. He did one of the Indiana Jones game trailer and one of the Megalopoulos. And he shot the reaction to Megaloplas and put an outro at it that would go into the show. Right. And he also did his own outro beforehand. So I edited it in both of the outros. It looks like he did it. And then at the end of it looked like a post-credits.

It was hilarious. It was really, really funny. Brett's funny even when he's not trying to be funny, man. J.S. Hooper. The Ackleit was always intended to be destructive. Leslie Headlin openly admits she hates the Jedi. Why would she be surprised that fans reject that? She made a show for herself and not the fans.

I think that she made the show for a select group of fans. I don't think she made it just for herself. I think she made it the show that she wanted to make, but this is also why I go back to, you know, Kathleen Kennedy and others going, well, maybe that's not just the best approach to do. We should make it for, that's why I made that point before,

make it for everybody. But I do think that I don't like the approach of what they did to the Jedi. And I have seen the arguments of like, oh, make them flawed, make them this, make them that. They've been flawed. When I was a kid, I always saw them as the samurai, and yeah, samurai can be flawed, they still had a, they're idiots in this show,

complete and utter idiots all the way through. and I dislike that element of the show very much. Yeah, I think they messed up by taking us back to or introducing us to a live action version of an era that is thriving in the books and that's a high Republic era. And our first exposure to them is when the Jedi are about to fall apart. As opposed to the glory days of the Jedi, which would have been interesting, like maybe five seasons down the road, you start to see the Jedi erode, which is what allows the empire to come in and have power.

So I think that was a massive mistake in terms of their approach. People want to love the Jedi. So you want to get us acquainted with these Jedi first being good and doing great things and then slowly but surely watch them fall apart. That's the tragedy of it. That would have been the smarter approach. But please don't just blame Leslie. People approve this.

People approve this whole thing up and down the chain. In the same way you can't, I mean, with the sequel trilogy. Yeah. You should have had a freaking thing mapped out. Oh, JJ made a movie. Orion wants to make a different movie. Sure. Why not?

And what about the third one? We'll get Colin Chavaro who's actually going to piece together the two movies they did. Get rid of him. J.J. wants to come back. What's he going to do? He's going to do something. He hated what Ryan Johnson.

That was my favorite, by the way. That's my favorite. When I would say, I would say it, and I still, I was, Jay J. J. J. Avers, not a fan of that movie. 100%, not a fan of that movie. And people are like, oh, you're wrong. He loves it.

No, he doesn't. And clearly, when you see that movie, he didn't. Armada, Rupert Sanders will get his groove back by directing the hot tour girl and Kevin Sorbo as the leads for a rhinestone reboot. Sign me. just to watch that train wreck. Holy shit. She hates Kevin Sorbo.

Does she? Yeah. She's a, she's, she's, she's not a Trump fan either. Hawk to her. She's said it in,

in interviews. So yeah. Roman for Dorac. Hey, again, what was the last word on Tyca's Star Wars film? Uh,

he, he, put it this way. You know more about that movie than Tyka. What's the New Zealand word for canceled? Because that's what it is. No, he knows.

He knows. He knew no clue. Let's see. So let's go to this next one. Blue tattoo. Maybe another exec and filmmaker team up for Star Wars CEOs like the Guns Saffron. Either Dave or Fabro as the filmmaker. I don't know.

Who would be the exact? Yeah, I mean, it would be an exact that we don't know. It has to be an exact that we don't know in the same way that you didn't know who Kevin Feigy was. People always looking for like, who's the name? Who's the big name, right? Like in the way that you look at, it was it Theo Epstein? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, he took over his GM. Yeah, yeah. Nobody, and he was the Red Sox. I know he knew who he was. He was a young exec that came out of nowhere, and he won championships for the frickin' Red Sox and the Cubs. And the Cubs. Yeah, yeah.

Gordy Dan. I do want to say with Blue, you don't even know if the gun staff are in this thing works. We haven't even seen the sample of it out. Right. But we just feel like it's a positive thing that they're doing, at least have a game plan. It feels like they have a game plan.

That's for sure. Jordy Dan. Hollywood custodians of these franchises need to respect lure. Both visual and, narrative canon. Picard, season three, did this. Episode 7 had Luke and his Jedi, like the new order, we would not be where we are today. I agree. They try to, that's what Star Wars does the most.

They try to go like, well, that's what everybody wants to see. So we're going to do something a little different, really different. You know that music you love with John Williams? We're never going to put that in any of our TV shows. Why would you? Well, you know this? You always thought that the Jedi were this. Nah, they're assholes.

And this, what do you think about this? Nah, screw this. You think Ray is actually, you know, she can be anybody. It's like all these things that they do. It's like, well, they took shots. They took outside chances. Yeah, but they don't know what they're doing. They're just doing it.

You know, this might work. Yeah. No, I agree with you 100% now. Because we have to give it time, right? Now we're all these years later. We can absolutely look back and say, you're 100% correct on that. It's just so frustrating to see it because,

and then they get mad at the fans for not watching. Yeah. Well, why aren't you watching it? We did what you wanted. Julius Wyatt. Borderlands drops 80% week three. When an all-time flop, that'll be on,

that'll that will be on streaming by the time this show is over yeah um sam mock look i don't want john to take over i just think that's what lucas someone mistakenly do yeah probably you might not be wrong yeah hopefully it is a no name exact it really should be hopefully that's what iger is going to do he finds he finds somebody that can build their career off of saving this fart show bennie most underrated film trilogy of all time for you oh man um that's so hard i'm gonna look i mean born But most movies that you think about the trilogies, they're not trilogies anymore. I was going to say, yeah, that's a harder one for me to really come up with. Are there any trilogies left?

I don't know. They're not all trilogies now. So I'm not sure. That's a tough one for me to do. Armada, I haven't seen it yet, but Feta Alvar is his girl in the Spider-Web movie, not good. I don't think I ever saw that. Did you? What happened?

Here's what I'd say. I think Claire is miscast in the role, but I think she does as good of a job. I know which one of this. Right, right. Is that the one from the books? Yes, from the books, right, exactly. And Numerah paste did the original three of them. I never saw it.

Right, right. And then Rooney Mora did the American remake with Fincher and Daniel Craig. This one was their approach to it again, but rebooting it with Claire Foy. And yeah, I think it's very well directed. I think there's a lot of it that's watchable, but she is miscast to a degree, but she does a great job with it or good enough job with it. So it's a totally watchable movie. So I would definitely recommend it on afternoon if you have a couple of hours to watch it and give it a chance.

Ed, you brought up your super chat about Christopher Reeve. I already brought that up. I was supposed to see a screening of it. And Roka has a screening for it soon. So we brought it up. But thank you. So is that the last one? No, there's one more here.

Okay. Okay. Path, 090. What from the accolent would you like to see carried forward to future Star Wars projects? I do think that there is a way for them to maneuver around what happened in the end there with Darth Plague's. And I have been so vocal about this, and I'll do it again. James Lucino's novel, you can turn that novel into a four or five-part miniseries. and you can make it a little darker.

You could put, you know, you put somebody like, maybe Tom Hendelson's a little too overused right now, but as a Palpatine-type figure, you can do what you were going to say, we were going to do in the first place, have the focus beyond the bad guys, but you can really show the inner workings of how it, how it all played and what he did. You learn more about him. You've already introduced him now.

And you can really show what that novel is all, but that's a gangster book by the, You know, like legit. Like that is, when I talked to Lucino, he had the idea of doing like a kind of mafia story in the place. Wow. So that's my right. Yeah. And I think that's it, John.

Okay. I think that's the last one. Wait, what from? No, yeah, that was it. Okay. Well, thank you. There's a ton of them, guys. Thanks for being here today with us.

Really, really appreciate that. Wow. I know. Oh, see? They won't let you go now, John. John, what's your favorite soccer memory while watching a game? game. When we came back and beat Barcelona in Liverpool to get into

the Champions League final against Tottenham. That's my favorite memory. Yes, coming back against ASEM Milan was great, but I always felt we could do that. The Barcelona won. Way more odd stacked against us. So that's my great memory. All right. John, tell them where they can find you. You can always find me at the Roka says on Twitter, Instagram,

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We do those hangouts every week. So come and hang out with us there. But thank you, Christian. Thanks, guys. Much love. Have a good Monday. John's the best. Thank you guys for having a fun time with us here today.

Thanks to John for joining us. Thank you for all the wonderful super chance you guys have put out there. All the comments in general, the activity has been great. If you haven't signed up for the Clips channel on YouTube, to please do that we have a lot of different things we're putting up there too if you're into the uap phenomenon please check out my other channel which is simply down earth the christian hornell and um and that's it so thank you for being here i really appreciate oh we got another one so look at that right before i left

jacob pinched i hope lucas film chooses to forget that daphne was even under that makeup she really could have nailed being a dark acolyte cano as soul sheight agreed um oh no sid vicious passed away oh man i just said vicious passed away we just lost rocha on that one but uh shoot poor sid vicious um sid vicious the wrestler passed away that's horrible um well love goes out to him and his family that's horrible news uh so with that sad news i guess that's what's going to take us out but um and just to you jacob for putting that in there also about uh you know daphne keen i couldn't agree with you more i think the whole show should have been designed around her and soul and not and the twin story to me was absolutely uh worthless so there you go that's it thanks for joining us

appreciate it thanks to all you it was fun show today well that's it i love you great peace out everybody see on the flip side bye Thank you.