The Kristian Harloff Show - The Acolyte's scores are RADICALLY different between critics and audiences. Who is right?

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

NY AMAZON STUDIO WISHLIST: https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls...  The Acolyte is divisive to say the least. The new Star Wars show has critics raving and audiences yawning. Who is in the right here? Is it all legit? We discuss what we think could be going on. The Box Office is making a comeback two weeks in a row as Inside Out CRUSHES! House Of The Dragon Season 2 debuts. How did we enjoy it? This and more on the first official live show form NY on this LIVE episode with Kristian and Rocha!

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in lovely sunny san diego and john and i will be talking about a lot of different things here today man and as you saw in the opening or the thumbnail the acolyte star wars it was anticipated for a lot of different people well it seems like critics love it and it seems like the audience does it now i know that some people and then suggest maybe it's it's bots that are doing the audience score i don't know about that when you get like a 15 percent i mean i'm not telling you there's some people that just disliking it to dislike it that's probably true but there's a disconnect here there's a disconnect maybe john doesn't agree i don't know but we'll talk about that we are going to discuss how of the Dragon season two episode one that just came out so we'll talk about that week two of the box

office coming back because inside out two destroyed and we'll talk about that also we got skeleton crew news there's other things uh james guns talking a little bit more dc u stuff all that and more so we hope that you guys are hitting that button subscribe to the channel we have like as you see the wall the prison wall is gone that is all you see all that in the background you want to give credit to brett no not this time that's right i finally got my wife to do it my wife did this and she did a thousand times better than i would ever do it would just be things smacked up there with tape and whatnot but hit that button thanks for being part of it we're excited and as always we're doing the superchats like we do every Monday.

We'll go through all the topics. So I see people already throwing them in there. Whatever you want to ask, you want to talk about the New York studio, want to talk about Game of Thrones. You want to talk about the Acolyte. Throw it in there, whatever it is. So it's myself.

It is John Roka. Let's get into it, everybody. Here we go. I don't think I have a logo. I didn't do my idea. That's true. Is right? Yeah, I do.

Look at me. Just like that. What's up, everybody? Welcome back. It is. the big thing we're on apple podcast we're on spotify it's me christian arloff and john rooker what's up john how you doing that's good that's good um dude i went to the beach club yesterday oh yeah i went to beach go and change beach it's amazing went for father's day and uh yeah good

and um i went with um i mean make this shot it's like it's like a little win over here hold on better a little one but so um I went, my uncle, my uncle and, and my whole family, they have this thing that they do. They split it with some other families and they asked us to go with them and the kids got to swim around in the pool. And it was something, my wife said, this is something like out of the 1950s. I love it. And like my kids and my wife are ready, are falling in love with it.

They're like, it's, it was already the right decision. It was the right decision. So stop this, stop this. Stop this. I had a good, I had a big. I did, man, I did. And I had a good bagel this morning. I had a good slice of pizza the other day.

Come on. It's already. We're right back to where we started. But did you see it? But you, I sent you this picture today. You know, you see all this stuff in the background. I mean, what do you think? Wait, apparently, John, apparently they can't hear you for some reason.

I can hear you. Well, I wouldn't be able to hear you. I wouldn't be able to hear you if, so apparently you're muted. So let me, let me see. So you guys, you guys can hear me, right? You can hear me. So, all right. So people want to hear you.

So we can't hear you. All right. But what's weird, because like now, can, you say something? No, now you're muted, but that's weird. So I got to be able to, I don't know why I can't, why they can't hear you. So that's the, she'll be able to hear you fine. Oh, great. See, we did a test.

I can, that's weird. Because if I can hear you fine, why can't they hear you? Oh, man. Why can't they hear you? That's what, you guys can hear me. No, I don't have the output tonight. Let's see.

This sucks. I was so excited. Everything was working good. But what's bizarre is that I can hear you just fine. So the only thing that I can, if I put you here, let me see. No, but that's weird because like when I, when I hear, when I hear you, because and I, that's, I don't understand why that's not working because, did me hear you again? What's that? It's perfect. But they can't hear you still. Maybe your audio, but I, but I don't get that because, because I'd never had, I've never used this program before where, where I can, I can hear you fine.

They can hear me fine, but they can't hear you. That doesn't make any freaking sense. So let's see. The earphones, your thing, let's see, setting, let me try audio. Let me try the audio here. Let me try this. Okay.

So they said, so how about, how about now? Do you give it, give a test, John? Let's try that one, try that one. Let's say, does anybody hear that? No, still no. Okay, good. Good fucking start so far.

That's so weird that they can hear, I think, that the other, there is a way to do this, but I don't want to do it this way. I have to figure out how to do the test on the audio. I can get you in here. Nah, I don't think he can't help with this. How about, you can't hear me now. So no, that wasn't. I'm going to give it one more shot that I'm just going to give you the streamyard link

and then you can just come in and do it that way but it's just not going to be as as clear. Okay, let's see. Last one. I'm going to edit all this shit out on the fucking, let me do the normal one. I don't understand why it isn't working. So they can hear it faint Yeah, so audio I did the OBS virtual camera

Hmm All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna send you the link and then you can just jump into the streamer Because we'll do it that way. All right, you drop out and I'll I'll send it to you know Yeah, let's get out of here All right guys. Well, that didn't work out. I'll do it. I'll do it it. I'll do it. Still, it's in progress. It sucks, but what are you going to do? So let me just do this, bring that up there. And we'll bring John in just a second. So if John doesn't work on this, then it's something on. I don't know what the hell it is. But we'll figure that out. But anyway,

I'm happy with the way that the studio looks. And I didn't see that. So hopefully you guys do. The, the computer is my computer that I love now. I got my computer back. Um, I'm excited about that. Here's John. Let's see. Hopefully we can hear him now. Let's see and no. Can you can't even hear you. So maybe it was, maybe it was something on your end. No, it's not for my.

I know I was joking. Don't even. Can you guys, can you guys hear him now? Can you hear me now? Let's see. Okay, they can hear him now. Can you hear me now? All right, so you know what I'm going to do?

Because this will be a special for the audience that's watching live. They'll get this and then what I'll do is I'll do this, ready? All right. Now, thanks for joining me. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, anywhere podcasts are found. I want to bring in the one and only John Roker. It's like, it's like deja vu. Wow. Happy Father's Day. Happy Post-Fathers Day. Thank you. I mean, I'm so funny, I had this conversation with myself before, but I was saying, and you had your commentary. I was, I had an opportunity to go, my uncle. Yeah. And my, my whole family, they invited us to this Beach Club that they, they are part of. We went there. And my wife was talking about it. I was like the 1950s when we had this,

they feel the kids were swimming around the pool and had a bagel this morning. A slice of pizza the other day. It's going good, John. I'm enjoying it. It's nice, man. It's nice to make a change of pace. And it's comfortable and you're near family. That's a good thing, man.

It's happy for you. The weather, even though I got, I saw that Ed Haskell's in here. Oh, no. He sends me this tweet and he says, he goes, oh, you're bringing the heat wave with you. And 100 is going to be like 100 degrees here tomorrow, humidity. So, but nonetheless, we get seasons and all that. So it's, it's exciting to be back. And I'm glad that I'm glad that we are back.

But, you know, this is, you know, was I'm so excited right before we started. It's for people, you may or may not see it. I might not be able to edit it out, but we, for some reason, we didn't have sound for John and this other program I was using. I've got to figure it out. But I was so excited with myself, because before we started, I had this whole. shot where you'd be able to see it. Well, you probably be able to still see me through the news, just not, just not through John. So like, yeah, like I'll, I'll make my, I'll show you guys,

like what I worked on before. I'm excited about this. Like the new shot, yeah, you'll just have me. If someone suggested this in the audience that I should do this. And that way, when I'm reading stuff out, you'll, you'll see, you'll see me. So, and then for now, we'll just have to do it this way. It's not too bad. We'll figure it out. But yeah, so we have the super chats. I see people are already asking that. But we got tons. to how how was your weekend by the way that was good just busy uh yeah we went car shopping for two days straight look if any of your people are listening and work for kea dealerships we will DM me if you're a if you're a businessman or sales manager if you're a salesperson because we spent

six hours the other day just going through all the stupid motions of waiting 20 to 30 minutes before they came in the office and haggling the price down like if you if any of you were there who work for or no a friend who works for care have them hook me up dm me let's have a conversation i want to cut out the middleman get to the point and have some good faith negotiations because that was a waste of six hours for them to try to screw us at the end so it kind of the saturday was kind of ruined so on sunday we just kind of later on i watched the u.s open she worked on her photography and it was a good day sunday but saturday was just a wash man i'm gonna be in that position pretty soon um anyway all right John we got a lot to talk about man because there was tons of news yeah and we just go right off the bat let's get let's get to the first story here okay and that of course is the seems like huge disconnect with the acolyte in regards to both critics and um and the audience there's this big uh big article that i read this morning about it on dark horizons and we will discuss now it says acolyte bad reviews target wrong film

Now, this is New Star Wars Series the Accolite. It sits at 84% positive amongst critics on Rotten Tomatoes, but a disastrously low 15% with audiences. The story is similar on IMDB. 47,000 votes have resulted in a 3.6 out of 10 score with 54.8 of those votes being a 1 out of 10 score. The most recent episode in particular has scored just a 3.4 out of 10, with 61% of scores being 1 out of 10. While plenty of people legitimately don't like the series, such skewed scores would suggest potential review bombing might be going on, but is there any way to prove it? Possibly according to SFFZet, as it has been revealed, completely separate works with similar titles are suddenly being inundated with plenty of bad reviews many years later. The outlet indicates the 2008 Australian horror film Acolytes, a film which generally had poor reviews anyway, has suddenly seen its audience scores fall even further.

do an influx of one-star reviews calling the Joel Edgerton and Michael Dorm Led feature in a front to Star Wars. The critical aggregate site has cleaned up that film section, purging those reviews, but screencasts of the reviews came up on X. A Star Wars fan film from 22 titled The Acolyte, a Star Wars fan film, has also seen a huge star of one-star reviews. As CBM points out, Rotten Tomatoes has attempted to stop review bombing in the past with films as Users of the site needed to show a verified ticket purchase in order to share their verdict. TV, though, no equivalent way to enforce such rules. Okay, I have a different, I have mixed, I have mixed views on this because do I think that there are some review bombs and it's clearly from that what they just read that it seems like people are just coming to say, well, the accolades.

So I hate the show. and they're bombing the wrong thing by accident. But I'm telling you, man, I've spoken to, as I always use friends of that are not in our industry, that don't have one point of a political view at all. And I talked to him about this show. And some of the hardcore Star Wars fans that I talked to were like, I have no interest in this show.

I remember stuff that I read. I don't care. Another person was like, I was interested in. I turned it on, not for me. Didn't I ask you to said, not for me. Talked to someone else who watched a scene of the day and said, I didn't believe this was Star Wars.

I turned it off after episode two. Right. And I feel, and I think you and I feel the same way. One and two are like, I don't know where this show is going. I don't know. The third episode and everyone's like, oh, you thought this episode was good? I said it was the best one out of the three.

In my opinion, do I think it's a good series? I don't. If I was reviewing this, on rotten tomatoes. Yeah. Now, people still don't realize how rotten tomatoes works. Let's take the review potential bombing out of it.

Yeah. Do I think that this, because in rotten tomatoes, anything three out of five is considered fresh, anything under three out of five. So if you give something a 2.9, if you're like, it's just not there for me, that's a rotten review.

Yeah. I think this is under a 3.5 for me. So I would be part of that, well, I would actually be lower on the critics or if I'm going on an audience score, I'd be part of the majority that says this is of 12 or 15% of whatever it is. So they don't think it's a three out of five show. Right. Where do you stand? As you said, I think it's really complicated. In this way, because of what you just said right now is a good example.

Like you asked people, and they were like, oh, it's not my jam. But how many of them that, like you said, that are out of the mainstream are actually going to take the time? time to go on to Rotten Tomatoes and go, this show sucks and or it's not good or I don't like it. There's not a lot of people that are actively trying to destroy. I'm sorry, there's not active to people who are like indifferent about the show or don't, it's not their jam,

who are actually going to take the time to write these reviews and try to destroy it. I do think there's quite a number of people who are trying to review bomb it and destroy it. And look, just from, if you go on any of these reviews and see how many people are just, dropping vitriolic reviews that are just comments rather under those reviews that are absolutely

going after this show like I had a guy I went back and forth with today this morning who called it the dumpster fire gay trash and these kinds of you know these kinds of inflammatory rhetoric around the show and I think those are the people that are taking the time to create extra accounts because they're driven by whatever anger is inside of them to create multiple accounts to drive the score down. I actually don't think it's like a minority. I do think it's quite a number of people.

That being said, though, there's a difference, and I want people to hear this. There's a nuance. There are people that have legitimate criticisms about the show. You and I have talked about it. There's pacing issues. There's acting issues. There's definitely writing issues.

There's overall construction issues. And so there is valid criticism of the show to be had. And I don't think people actually valid criticism are turning around and creating accounts that are going after this film and or a show, rather, and going crazy about the show and being so upset about it. But don't you think, don't you think that that's a mixture of both?

I see people, there's some dopey comments already in here and I got it. And I have the same thing. It's like, when I, when I review- No surprise. No surprise. But when I review things,

I always say it like this. I've said, I've watched this show. I, it's not, this show is not for me. I don't think there's a lot of things that are, that are seen like CW.

I agree. I agree. I agree. And those, and I give my, And someone's like, why can't you just admit that it sucks? Because it's like, you, you say that. For me, I'm saying to you that there were things that I don't like it all about it.

And there's other things like, oh, this is fine. But it's like, people just can't say that it sucks. It's like, there's other things. Guess what sucks? Some of the writing in Osoka sucks. Some of the writing in Obi-Wan sucks. Some of the writing in this show sucks. You go.

You're happy. You want to have a party. Go like this. Go like this. But like, overall, there are things that for what I do, I don't just sit there and pout and go, just sucks. That's it. It sucks.

It's like, no, I got to say, well, here are the things that could be good. Here are the things that, you know, I wish was better. Here are the things that overall could work out if they go in this particular direction. I don't like the direction of this show. I don't, I wish it would rather, like to me, I would rather criticize it in a way going, look, they didn't go in the way of the, I thought it was going to be like this kind of dark Sith, how the Sith infiltrated. And it turned out to a young adult novel. And maybe there are people who enjoy that.

It seems like more critics do, because, The one thing I would say to you, John, is that I don't disagree with you that I don't, that I do think that there was a large group of people that wanted to hate the show. Decided, this is exactly what I thought of it was going to be. The show sucks. Yeah. You know what? Everybody, let's do basically GameStop and let's go get them. Oh, great point.

Right? Let's mobilize them. Yes, yes. But I also think that they are not alone. I think that they're also with people like myself, other people. other people are going, it's not a good show. Yeah, yeah. And when you add it to those people, the score goes down dramatically.

So maybe the audience score would have been at 45% with, you know, the GameStop people, if you will. You add it to everyone else who, the regular people who are just not digging this show. Yeah. And I don't know. I think it's more, I think that there's a lot of what you said is absolutely true. But I think there's a lot of legitimate criticism. This is not a three out of five show. Right. And I think that's the problem is that when you have the vitriolic comments with agendas that are against things that are, that reference anything gay or have women led or people of color led, which are very obvious. Those are usually the first two lines of a toxic review. When you get that and when you combine those with legitimate criticism, unfortunately, legitimate criticism gets lost because the headline grabbing headline is the toxicity of some of the reviews.

that's going to sell, that's going to get clicks, that's going to get people to pay attention. So it's unfortunate that the more vitriolic, racist, sex, homophobic reviews are overshadowing the legitimate reviews. And in a way, they're doing themselves a disservice by posting reviews like that because they're washing away legitimate criticism of the show. And in a way, their desire to have the show criticized, now they're undercutting their own desire to have the show destroyed by mixing their toxicity in with legitimate, intelligent well thought out, logical criticism.

And that's the problem. I think it lends itself to a bigger problem, though, too, John. I think that the idea that when it comes to this is, and we've spoken about this, off air, we've spoken about this on air. I've spoken about it in general. I think that when you are doing, and I hate to just kind of, again, be a broken record here, but like when you're doing a $170 million show, $180 million show, if you want to talk to your complete fan base, whether you like your complete fan base or not.

Yeah. When you're making shows for that much money, you've got to look at the entire fan base. You have to. Yeah. When you're doing a 30, 40 million dollar, aim at your audience, whoever you want your audience to be for that 30, 40 million because you, that's all you got to do. But when you're doing 180, you got to aim it at everybody. I mean, that's what Mandalorian season one and season two did.

And I'm not telling you whether you're not, you think that's right or wrong. Like, those people, then they get their own way. we're talking business here. Yeah, business. Talking business. If you want to spend $180 million and you don't want your things to get review bonds and everything, you got to make it stuff that people are going to go. You got to make it, look, there are going to be some people that doesn't matter what you do, even if you decide to do something, you know, that's going to be a little bit more.

Let's say, I'm going to go a little more classic Star Wars. I'm going to do a bit more of that feel. I'm going to be and people feel, there's people still hate it no matter what. Of course, of course. They're invested in it. But if you make a Mandalorian season one, season two, Yeah. And I really do legitimately think that if they would have focused on Obi-Wan and Anakin in that

Obi-Wan series and made that that series like that was like, because that's what everybody thought the movie was going to be about. Right. Everybody thought the show was going to be about it. And it wasn't. And you're like, it's like you just, and what was it yesterday? I'm watching House of the Dragon. And I just made me think, I know they did this in season one.

But the Game of Thrones theme song pops up. And at first people were like, oh, I don't know if they should do that. It's not the same show. It's like putting the James Bond theme in there. What do you get? It's like they have their own music throughout the rest of the series. And it's similar. And I know it's the same composer.

But what are you not, why are you not using classic John Williams things to make it feel more like Star Wars to make it feel like. Give us more. Like trying to separate and make your own Star Wars, you're going to lose people. You're certainly losing, you're losing me. You're losing a lot of my, my brother who was like a hardcore Star Wars fan. just like I'm not watching a show. I turn it on. It's like, it's not for me.

And yeah, I think what you're saying, though, is, is it all comes back to what you initially pointed out. And I think a lot of people, is that these shows just aren't good overall. If the shows were good overall, nobody would give a crap about anything else. Like, look, X-Man 97 came out. That is as woke, quote, unquote, whatever, the misuse of that word people do on certain sides of political fences. It was as quote, unquote, woke as you get, you know?

And that show had incredible writing, great animation, fantastic storylines, and it was overwhelmingly received. And unfortunately, that's the truth of this, is that when you come out with a middling show or a not good show or a show that's okay or good, but not great, then it opens itself up for the criticism, because then people who legitimately have an issue with the show will listen and look at other criticism that's more angry towards the show. And no one would care about the other stuff if the show was good. And at the end of the day, that's what it seems to be consistently that the show is not,

these shows are not hitting the mark like they should. No, because it's also becoming a political war on both sides. It really is on both sides because you can go, we're very touched on the fact that there's the, as you mentioned, there's a hateful side of things that just don't, doesn't want to see certain things in the show. But on the same side, there's the ones that want to hammer down the point of like, this is our message and if you don't like it then and it's like that's that's what and has happened and it's happened in all of media yeah and if i'm a CEO i'm going what do you guys do it it's like we're

trying to make money and it's like we can as i said if you're making smaller budget stuff then to whatever you want to do make it make your whatever it is whether it's political whether it's religious you put enough money into it whatever it is you're i mean your money into it and and it's like enough to where your fan base is going to come see it. Then as a head of that company, whoever you present me a business plan and going, well, here's our business plan. We're going to spend $5 million and we're going to make an alt this. We're going to make an alt that.

We're going to do this. We're going to do that. And it's going to be aimed at our fan base. $5 million. And what do you think we can make? We think we can make $50 million on it. Make it. You know what I mean?

It's like, well, here's we're going to do $200 million on this. And we're just going to go at that corner of the world right now. We only made $40 million. Why did we do that then? You know what I mean? And I know that it's streaming. It's different when it comes to streaming numbers, but it's like,

and it's a lot of the same people who are going, well, we can't let the bad guys win. And it's from both sides, whoever you think the bad guys are. They go, we can't let the bad guys win. It's like, again, if I'm the head of the company, I'm going, this ain't a good versus bad right now. This is a green problem.

Let's make good quality shit that people love to see, no matter what side of the aisle you're on, because we're making big budget movies here. We can't have political wars. We can't have religious wars. And I'm not saying that things aren't political inside of media. We know that it is. But I'm talking about the overall feel of it.

If it becomes a stance that either side can take, you lose. Yeah, yeah. And the thing is, that's the frustrating part of it all. You get the point. Like, look, I think I've been reanalyzing some things as I've been looking at this. seeing the reaction. Not that I'm, you know, giving more credence to the more vitriolic side of it's more a matter of, look, if you're going to take your project and your property and your

franchise and you're going to go activist with it, which I think you have every right to do, it's a free country. You have every right to go activist with your stuff. You better make sure you come out with some incredible stuff because you're going to be triggering the political other side of things. And we've seen now, Chris, we are a very, very divided country. And as you said, it's business. And if you're a business person, if you're a CEO like Bob Eiger, who already came out and said, you know, we're not going to put messages, which is ironic as hell, because Disney's always had messages since the beginning of its creation. But this idea of like, okay, if you're going to have messages that overt, you got to know,

all right, if we are going to make this, then we are going to make it for a certain amount of money because we know it's going to trigger a very strong response from this other side who clearly carry weight in the fandom and carry weight on social media and carry weight overall in the political discord in the pop culture discourse and so that's you've got to factor that in so you i think what your point is is is is so valid 180 million dollars to push this point of view is naturally going to trigger other people to i don't think 30 million would have triggered them 180 triggers them of course so we have the battle of course anytime you make it but it's and it's not and it's not just the political message too we've talked about when it comes to budgets and we've talked about like

furiosa it's like i was talking about my cousin yesterday he's like furiosia so was great or really enjoyed it. He's like, why didn't it make money? And it was an easy answer. We talked about it. It's like, first of all, it's again, $170 million or whatever it was. You got to try to make that movie for 80 or 90 million. You have a lead actress who's very talented, not a star.

Nobody knows who she is. She didn't even play the character in the last movie at all. And this other competition out there that's coming out with apes and other things during that month that is just going to be more attracted to people when they're like, well, what money do I spend, you know, $15, $20 a ticket on to go see the movie. So it's like, it's just business making that when it comes to this stuff that I don't, it's like, it seems to me simple, but it, but I don't know. But as you say, when it comes to like Iger, to be fair, I think this, this show in

general was greenlit, um, before Iger came back. Yeah, but it's also, you know, I said, I'm, I don't know what world, you know, you would live in that you'd say, here's a not, here's a show that's not proven yet in a time period we don't know that we're going to greenlight for 180 million dollars and obi won's made for 80 or whatever and if you're going to do that make this small story about like you know when you dive and i guess we can transition before we do actually i do want to transition into house of the dragon so we can kind of do a little bit of a comparison there also can i say one thing to kind of end this side of the i do think there is people who are overreacting to episode three i will say that and i don't

to, you know, try to trigger you upset. I'm saying overreact in terms of the definition. I think people are assuming that this is now suddenly changed canon in some cataclysmic way. And the truth is that this whole episode was from basically OSHA's point of view. So we don't know what's the actual truth of what happened there on Brendak. So like just wait a couple episodes. You might be right by the end of the eight episodes. You might absolutely be right.

They've changed canon. Where it goes. They unfaith can't. They changed it. Okay, I get it. then get angry. I totally hear you. Let's hear your points. But right now, we're still five episodes away. I think we're going back to what happened on Brendak multiple times to get different points of views to find out what actually happened. And maybe the Jedi aren't the bad guys as

people are assuming after episode. And maybe what the creation of life is completely different and the threat, all of that could possibly be phenomenally different. I'm going to physically slam my and how they're pushing it. I'm going to physically slam my head into my desk if it turns out to be the witch. That's the Sith Lord. Oh, the other mother. The Zabrack. It's like there's two, there's two like predictable potential.

Like the way you're going to get me to go, huh, if neither Manikinto or the Zabraq are the Sith. If neither one of those two of the Sith, then I'm going to go, okay, all right, you trick me. You got me. Who is it? But if either one of those two, you're not. too. I'm slamming my head into the, into the desk. But yeah, there's a lot.

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I wish that they did. She's phenomenal. And maybe, and I think that they will because she's just so good. But people, I had friends that didn't even realize she was in Dune 2. I was like, Matt Sarah is like a huge Dune fan. He's like, what was she in that? She says, oh, she was the sister. Yeah, she was the sister.

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You're Scarlett Johansson. Right. No. Right. If you know film, if you keep up with our type of show, then of course you know who she is. But if you're just some average person walking around on the street, you know who Jalo is. You know who Scarlett Johansson is. You know who Emily Blunt is.

You don't know who Anya Teller Joy is yet. I'll go one better. Put Millie Gibson up. Oh, Millie Bobby, what was it, Millie Bobby Gibson up? Millie Brown. Sorry, Millie Bobby Brown. I'm thinking Millie Gibson from Doctor Who. Sorry, Millie Bobby Brown and Anya Taylor Joy, I guarantee you, everyone's going to

know Millie Bobby Brown is. Not everyone's going to know Anya Taylor Joe is. And yet, you know, this is the Netflix show that was getting a lot of awards, Queens Gambit. This is the Netflix show that everybody knows. And so there's the difference. Yeah. Great point.

Absolutely great point. Okay. So there was a lot to talk about there. And I see there's tons of you guys in the stream today. So thanks for joining us here. make sure that you we we the way that we do it is we go through all the main topics and I see a bunch of people put in stream uh sorry super chats we'll get to all them don't worry but keep putting them in there whatever you want to talk about for sure and if it re if it red does the uh the acolyte conversation that's cool if you want to talk about the studio i got to say I got to give my wife a lot of prompts done I really do like the video looks it really does doesn't look like the prison wall anymore I'm digging it all right let me tell you guys I got two sponsors for you and and you're going to love them both. I'm going to tell you about gentle bands,

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I think it's fantastic to see the, numbers that are coming through. And, you know, because I think the story, I love this movie. I went back and saw it again. Yesterday, actually, went back and saw it again. It's because the film itself just did such a brilliant and smart thing when it addressed teenage anxiety, right? It's so smart. And you bring in someone like Maya Hawke to voice the character who was becoming one of my favorite actresses speaking of Stranger Things. and you bring these other elements in like embarrassment and envy how many of us i think a majority of people in the world experienced these emotions during purity and transitioning and the way they picked

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with the Pixar and whatnot. Yeah. Because we had a big weekend, man, a really big weekend with Inside Out too. And this is some of the numbers and some of the things that happened thus far and what not and who has been. and Inside Out and Inside In and all that stuff. All right, Inside Out.

Well, it's breaking records and it keeps breaking records. Dark Horizons. Joy isn't just a leading character, but a feeling throughout Disney. And all Hollywood today is Disney and Pixar's animated sequel. Inside Out 2 continues to beat even the rosiest box office expectations. The film has pulled in 155 million in its first domestic weekend of release, doubling the debut of Dune Part 2 and Godzilla.

uh and con the new empire so dune made 82 and godzilla and con made 80 so this is the first one that ripped a hundred it also marks the first film since barbie opened to 162 last year to debut above 100 oh wow barbie did 162 and so this movie's gonna this movie's got a shot for a billion we'll talk about that in the second um and the second biggest in pixar history behind only the The Incredibles 2, which is 182, and surpasses its predecessors 90.5 star by a considerable margin. Internationally, it is similarly going wildly beyond expectations with box office up to 140 million from overseas markets, surpassing Frozen for the biggest overseas animated opening of all time. Latin America is particularly coming out for huge for the film, delivering that region's second biggest numbers of all time behind only Avengers Endgame.

All in, the film's opening weekend, has grossed $295 million opening weekend. The biggest animated debut in Like for Like Markets to date. That bodes very well for the film, which had a $200 million production budget. In fact, estimates now are the film's total domestic gross. Domestic could reach half a billion. It also helped to push the collective domestic box office above $200 million for the first time this year and helped shrink the overall box office drop from 26% to 23.8.

Bad Boys, Right or Die came in second with an impressive $33 million in its second weekend, and Releason has also managed 214 globally. So if you look at the numbers this weekend, it was Inside Out 2 with 155, Bad Boys with 33, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes staying strong with 5.2, Garfield at 5 and the Watchers at 3.7. All right, John. Yeah. So you hear those numbers, dude, and this is, this is big.

stuff for the box office, right? Yeah. I mean, all these people saying the cinema was dead or cinema's gone or, you know what I'm saying? It's not that there isn't some legitimate points of views and analysis to be had out there. Certainly we've talked about budgets, but this is just shows you that if you may, that's not you, there's no formula. There's no formula. It's completely like does this appeal to enough people. And if it does, it's going to be successful. Clearly, Furiosa didn't. Clearly, the fall guy didn't. And everyone was like, oh, it can't be the movies.

Because the movies are such quality. There's no way it's the movies. It's got to be all this other stuff. But really, at the end of the day, it has always been the movies. What about it? Does it appeal? Quality is irrelevant. How does it appeal to the public?

And clearly, Inside Out, had a very strong resume, the original film, and it inspired so many people to give this. a second chance, or give us a chance. And then the reviews came pouring in that were very positive. I don't people want to say we're review-proof society. I don't believe that's true. And so that's what you saw here. People found a natural,

instinctual attraction to this film and wanted to go see it. And that's why it's, and it was good. And that's the thing, as we said earlier, if it's good, no matter what you do with it, if there's an interest for it and people take a chance on it, it can blow up. So I think that's what happened here.

and it was it's great to see. And the fact that it's doing so well Latin America, it makes me very, very happy on so many levels because that's also an area where mental health and talking about feelings and talking about the stuff you're going through isn't really accepted very, very strongly within those countries.

So the fact that you have a film that's talking about that and doing so well speaks that there is a change happening there with the younger and younger generations who are seeing that there's something here to talk about and explore. So I love that. So I agree with 98% of it. what you said. Hey, look, I'll take it from you. 98%. The only the 2% of what something that you said that I, that I want to start with the pushback is that there's no formula to it, right? Of what,

of what can work and what can't, right? Okay. Yes. If you put summer movies for children, they, and you can get good marketing behind it. Yeah. You will, you will most likely do pretty well. if we'll prove that to you because if is a movie that no one that we were talking about wanted to see it's doing fine but it was a it was something for people to take their children to in the summertime schools out um garfield still making money because something for you good movie too sure but it's also it's because during the year and i'm saying this as a dad there is not a lot of stuff to take your children to as a as a movie goer you have a full year to choose whatever you want to you're on. You go, I don't want to see that. I'm not going to see it. I don't care about that. That I might say that. The kids movies, they come around. You're like, I got to see something. They're going to take something to see the kids. Couple it with all of the stuff that you said that I agreed with why inside out is just hitting for people because people are excited. And it's a fantastic movie. I loved it. I took my 12 year old who has essentially grown up with Riley was not too far off from her age when the first one and is now her age in the second one. And she related to all of it.

She loved it. She teared up twice. She said, she'd want to hit a little too close to home. You know, and how she was everything that she's dealing with as a kid. And watching all of that, you understand why the movie's doing well as far as a quality side of it. And it is because it was a successful movie. And it is one of those times that you say, it's got a $200 million dollar budget. And it's the time that I won't say, why?

I get it. I understand why. Because it was a successful movie to, and the gamble is worth it. it plus and this i hate saying this because i love bill hater love mendy canling they didn't come back because it would have inflated the budget for and they didn't get the money that amy polar did yeah amy got five million amy got more money and it would have inflated the budget more and and pixar and disney made the move to say do we need them are they phenomenal in both the first movie yes were did it hurt the quality of movie to have them not in it no yeah it didn't um and i love them both

and i think that they're really good and i know that if they were watching this they'd probably say f you don't fuck with my money don't mess with my money and i understand it but that's one of those decisions again in business that you look and you go we have a 200 million dollar budget do we need to pay another 10 right now no we don't can we get somebody that'll play well most of the kids not realize it they didn't it's one of those reasons in the first place that i don't think when you have voice overcast that you need to get all these big stars right away yeah as long as you have one or two you can find it because i think it was tony hale that did fear this time around um and then i can't remember who took over for mindy but but either way is it lapira yeah they did great and they

probably cost a fraction of what they would so they used their money right they made a lot of money off it it's going to make a billion it's going to make a billion dollars Oh, yeah. And Dispicable Me, too, right now is going, what are we at? Or four, whatever it is. Three, is it three or four? I don't even know. Either way.

They're like, it's like, minions are jumping and billion, it is, despicable me is going to crush. And I don't know now who's going to be the top of the year. I still think, I'm still sticking. I know that you're going to owe me dinner next time we see each other again. I don't know. Deadpool, whether or not it takes the number one spot. of all the whole year yeah i don't know i don't know so i don't know i ask you guys though man we have

that the box office dose clearly they needed this boost inside out to need like between that and bad boys given bad boys um yeah love also because what bad boys was is continuously able to do that was that was the one that started it people will talk about inside out if it makes a billion dollars but furioso was kind of like you know it made the box office kind of wobbly when you had apes was looking like the biggest movie of the summer and a bad boys came in hitting tough and now inside out too will it continue so put your comments in there whether you're watching on the replay whether you're watching live and tell me what you think okay so if we're moving on here to some other stuff and there's inside out to um the other thing to discuss

i want to bring up okay house the dragon man yeah man holy moly i love this show i love this show and it's And going back to our conversation earlier with, and I, and, you know, if you're an audience member and you're sick to death of it, I, I can't tell you that I blame you. But I was watching this show last night, John, and I'm listening to that music. And I had that thought of the Kevin Kiner side of, why don't they do what Kevin Kiner does in Star Wars? And then I'm watching this show. And I know you can't get as adult in Star Wars, but I'm like, Andor got so close. Yeah, dude. Andor got so close.

And I'm going, why can't you just do this for Star Wars? Star Wars. And then I just said, stop thinking like that and just watch the freaking show. And I did. And HBO's Game of Thrones spin off House of the Dragon returned for a second season tonight. And the reviews are a bit more mixed on the sophomore run. Oh, what? So I guess 47 reviews, the series is 87%. Okay. Rotten Tomatoes compared to the 93 of the first. It's a better story arc on a better, excuse me, better story on Metacritic, where it's landed a 73 at 100 compared to the 69 of the first season. the series famously unfolds near 200 years before the events of Thrones and tells the story of the Targary and Civil War, yada, yada, yada. So some of the reviews, yeah, they're just mixed, whatever. But either way, is I watched it last night.

To me, I guess we do non-spoiler for the people who haven't seen it. Sure, sure, sure, sure, yeah. But I was, let me fix my shot, please. But I was watching this show last night. And I felt like it took right from where it left off. And it what I can say in the non-spoilers, I mean, I guess you're going to get, if you didn't see season one, you're going to get a little spoiled here because it's like it's no more the setup of are they going to battle now? It's like, no, we're getting ready to battle now. And what's going to happen?

And it is the thing about Game of Thrones when it's done well, it's this political intrigue. And like, yeah, and you talk about, again, political and you talk about like you've got you've got so much things that reflect what's going on in society. day you got things going on and you know like political messages but it's done in a way that just fits in with the storytelling of this era you know yeah and as you're watching it you're watching everything you're on the edge of your seat you feel it's like it's sexy at times it's icky at times it's you know it's got all it's got all this stuff that you're just like so locked into and I don't most of the time I'm I'm like I'm rooting for renera and I'm rooting and then there's times I'm like, oh, I don't know if I like that move.

But, and then you don't mean. I'm like, I don't know who to move for. I hate that guy, but I like that guy. I don't like her, but I really like her. And I'm in the, I'm in the Game of Thrones. I'm in it. So I loved it. What did you think?

Yeah, absolutely. You know, we're dropping our spoiler review, probably right after we finished the show here on, on my channel on the Outlaw Nation. And certainly Michael and Shannon and I had a fun time talking about this morning before I came on and do the show with you. And last night, I watched it twice, just to kind of, of savor the show and save of the episode. I love that we're back in this world. I love that we didn't just start with a bang bang explosion. I like that they expand the world. And I like

that we're touching base with these characters. And you're right that we're picking up right after the events of the season finale, maybe days after the events of the season finale. So the emotions are still raw, very raw on both sides of what happened. Again, no spoilers about what happened at the end of the first season. So I love that. So everybody has their positioning. And the political machinations and whose house is on what side and what are we going to do about the blockade and the ships. And also, there's so much that was already presented in season one that we touched base on in this opening that I thought was fantastic. And then we introduce more characters that are going to be a bigger part of the show as the season goes along. And then we end on a very

brutal unsettling ending that just shows you. This show will slow walk you into a bunch of spikes on the ground because it just shocks you out of nowhere and I love that that happened by the end. So to me, this was a great way to come back laying the groundwork for what we're going to have dealing with in season two and fantastic performances in writing

and great direction by Alan Taylor who did Thor the Dark World and seven episodes of Game of Thrones as well. Great job. And you know, you know, not necessarily the character. I don't know if I don't like the character but I like what the actor is doing and I like Well, let me say I like what they're doing with the character himself.

I just don't like the character. Yeah. That's the king, right? Oh, Agon. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. You know what I like about what they're doing? Because I'm like, okay, they're just going to make Agon Joffrey. He's not Jopry at all, at all. Like certain things that he wants to do that high tower is like, no, no, no, don't do that. And he's like, but I want to do that because I'm able to make the people like that.

Like he cares what the people. Like my dad did. I want to do what my dad did. I want to be good to the people. Right. And then there's other times where he does stuff where he's, and it's not like, it's not like there's something that he does in the room where you're like, oh, man, man, is he going to call for this guy's like death? He doesn't seem to humiliate this guy, whatever it is. And it's like, it's like little things. He's like a power hungry little prick. But he's, but he's still got, like there's, there's layers to him, which I was like, okay, I like what they're doing with, with this character. There's layers to. There's a certain thing that they're trying to do at the end of the episode. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I'm going. going, there's no way they're going to pull this off. What's going to happen? And when they do something else, you're like, oh, yeah, that's what you're talking about.

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's tough. But I love the show. It was my favorite show. And that's the year that Andor came out. And it was my favorite show over Andor. It is continuing on that right now. I absolutely love it. I cannot wait.

I'm going to try to do actually, it's just because I was in the middle, like we landed on Friday night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was able to. watch. We're putting the television in the house right now, so I had to take, I had a projector that my brother got me for Christmas, and I plugged the projector in, and I watched it on the wall last night, sitting on, sitting on one chair that I have in the living room, eating a granola, watching, watching House of the Dragon and getting interrupted every 15 minutes and it's bad and whatnot. I don't know what the hell is going on. Here's your TV, you feel for you. I know, for real. But there you go. So that's House of the Dragon, everybody. Please, please, please tell me your thoughts. Once again, in the comment section live.

If you're watching on the replay, Apple Podcast, Spotify, put your comments in there for sure. And yeah, and the other thing is, as I say, the studio kind of coming along, we're going to have that side set up pretty soon. We're going to get probably a new table, everything else. Brett's coming back here in July to help kind of fix up some stuff too because this will be the other side of it. We'll be to do some more things. we get this area that I'm very happy with because it was the thing that like I was most concerned with. And my wife was like, we'll get it. We'll get it. Don't worry. And she was like, she, my, I would said this morning, I'm just going to go in. I got a show with John. I'll just do it with the prison wall. It'll be fun. And she goes, no, you go in. I will, we have these things. I will take care of it. And I and I went and I went and got food for me and my kids and my wife. And her and the little one, the, the six and a half year old, she was helping out taking the strip. and doing everything too.

And I came back and six and a half a girl. It was pretty much me. It was so good. She was, she really is a soprano. I tell you the thing when I, when I walked into the kitchen, there was like snacks there.

Yeah. And she walks up and she just walks right past me. She sees the snack. She goes, oh, don't mind of a dew. Six and a half. This walks over. It's hilarious.

I don't know where the hell these kids learn this stuff. Anyway. I'm wondering if we got anything else here. Oh, yeah. All right. Yeah, there's a couple other things in the news that we could talk about. I mean, House of the Dragon is so damn good. This is something that I wanted to talk to you about, and that's Shogun.

Shogun. Now, I know, I still, like I said, this is a show that I love and I'm going to catch up to it. I promise you. I'm going to get up to it. But you had talked about it, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought, like, when we kept going whether or not there was going to be a season two you're like no there shouldn't be i don't want one right am i wrong no i never said that i said that people felt that way that there shouldn't be i've always been halfway through the season one i was like i know they can't i don't know how they can do a season two but i

hope that they do okay okay so i stand corrected but so so then this is a story on dark horizon shogun team teases a darker future season the surprising news came last month that veteran acting icon heroki sonata had closed a deal to return as Lord Yoshi Taranaga for a second season of the highly acclaimed Shogun. The network then announced the third season was also being developed. Wow. The surprise was that up until that point, there was no hint that the highly acclaimed and commercially successful series would ever get a second season as it was designed as a limited

series. Then they realized how popular it was. Exactly. It's not rocket science. The series served as a complete adaptation of the standalone book. The author James Clavel never wrote a direct sequel and his other works like Taipan, Jai Jin and King Rat and Noble House are all set centuries later with different characters. Even the producers just a month earlier were saying in interviews,

there were no plans and no idea what kind of story they wanted to tell. Either way, a writer's room is being assembled and we'll be working this summer. We cut 17 phone calls in the course of six minutes and like, and three truckloads of money are. sitting in my back porch. What do I do? Write the series. In a recent interview with Hollywood reporter, Justin Marks, Rachel Kondo offered an update on how it's going. Said there's a lot of chaos, but there's creative chaos where we're throwing everything we have at the wall seeing what sticks. It's been exciting and nerve-racking because obviously it's uncharted

territory. We don't have a roadmap. We have history. Justin Mark says there's a lot of great conspiracy theory in history, a lot of different theories about, oh, what said this went on, but this really went on in those little darker corners of what we enjoyed exploring. The third series, the third season is an ending. We know where it starts and we know where it ends and we know we're on that journey. We're just focusing on part two and making sure we can get to that point. But part two is a second chapter. It's going darker.

Sonata is also producing the series as the team learned that spirit and the taste of storytelling and all of his DNA is in our bodies, I believe. Yada, yada, yada. Okay. So it's going to be a seasonal drama now. I'm not going to lie to you. This makes me a little nervous. Okay. makes me a little nervous.

It's because I think that the writers are fantastic, but it's a little similar to Game of Thrones, right? They run out of the book. They don't know more book or fantastic beasts. And now you've got to come up with your own story. And you can't take all the stuff that you got from the book. And I'm not saying they can't pull it off. They're very well good.

But it's got to make you a little nervous, no? Well, I think nervous, sure, because the first season was so damn good that we've seen second seasons, just like with albums, that group come out with a debut album and then the next album isn't quite as good, right? And so we see this happen in a lot of creative ventures. So you get nervous because you loved how great it was.

And I saw some people reacting very strongly about a second season saying this, you should have left it as a first season. It will stay immaculate in that way. Why would you do a second season? But I think the difference between this situation in Game of Thrones is there's actual historical evidence that they can use as a basis. This guy actually lived John Blackthorn. He's based on...

Obviously, the person has a different name, and Toranaga is based on another Shogun. So these people really did exist. So the fact that you have some historical basis from which to create fictional historical drama from, that still touches on real stuff that happened between them and alludes to it, I think that's where they have a little more of a leg up

than like Game of Thrones, what, the end of season seven into season eight, where they didn't have, anything to base it on other than the mythology of this fictional series. So I think that's where the difference lies in the two. But still nervous because it doesn't mean just because they have all this historical stuff that they're going to get it right. Yeah, that's a great point.

So what do you guys think about this? Do you think that season two is something that they should do, explore it? They've got the writers. They have the showrunners. They have the producers. They got everything. They have the cast. They have what they need.

What do you think? Put your comments in there. Tell us what you think should, would, could happen. All right, we are going to get to your questions. I think it's time for that. We have a ton of questions you guys came in. You can still keep putting them in. We'll be here until the end of it.

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A lot of questions. So let's get into a bunch of, so what I'm going to do is the way that I'll read these through. If you're like, hey, you missed my question. I know what I have to do here. I go through the starred ones and I go through these two. So there's two different ones. Matt Sinister McCall, which actor would play a great Sith, Defoe for me?

I hate to use the, he would be good, by the way. But I'd want to see him as like an alien or something. I'm going back to like 10 years ago, the standard answer. I want to see their Fastbender or Hardy play as it. Ooh, that's a good choice. Yeah. Let me ask you something. Go ahead.

We brought this up on the Geek Buddies on Friday. Duane Johnson has just signed a first look deal with Disney. Yeah. We used to joke about it on movie fights. Darth Bing. about Dwayne Johnson joining the Star Wars universe. Is, can be, can Dwayne Johnson be, as up, can he be the Darth Mall species type of guy?

Ball with the spikes, I mean, in the size, would that really bother you if he was in the world of Star Wars as a different species that could cover up the fact that it's the rock's face? If he can put his ego to the side and put on a, costume that he's hidden behind and that he is a massive kind of hulking figure almost like cane was to the wwe oh good good reference and do something very dark and do something you know where you don't even know that it's him yeah then yes but if you start having him try to deliver lines as the rock it won't no it's not going to be if he's dropping rock bottoms in the star

Wars universe is not going to work. All right. Let's say Mike Joyce, love Mike. What's up, Mike? Based on the last episode, our Jedi just religious zealots who eliminated any group who wielded the force in a different way to them. That's what I don't like about the show. I mean, there are some people who, I don't like, I don't like how the Jedi, I like when I was a kid that I thought

Jedi were like, you know, the good guys. And they've made it so clear now that they're not. They were misguided. They were arrogant. And I know that it's because of what happened. eventually led to their, but they were also, they did a lot of good too. And they have one guy out there that's doing the right thing right now. And it's like it's tiring. So, no, I feel like that it is the way that they set it up.

I don't like. Yeah, I don't believe it. No, again, Mike Joyce saying stuff as if Star Wars has officially said that this is their thing. He didn't officially say. What did he say? What was the question? He just asked a question, is that the way that they're being betrayed?

And is it is like, is that the way that they're making it look? I was like, yeah, it is. It's a murder mystery. And so you're supposed to question things. You're supposed to wonder which side of the fence people are. And you're supposed to wonder if what you're getting is actually the truth. And so for right now, I'm reserving judgment. And I don't think they're portraying the Jedi this way officially in this show just yet.

This is a perspective of Oshed as a nine-year-old making herself the hero of her story. Because they also portrayed May as this, you know, aggressive, emotional, evil person. and the coven as just restrictive, choking the life, forcing her to become a witch. This is all Osh's point of view. And she has the hero, she's the hero of her own journey,

so she's going to portray other people as trying to stop her from doing what she wanted to do. We're going to find out the truth as the show goes along. And if at the end, it is the Jedi being evil or whatever or being arrogant,

then I understand people's upset in this. But you and I, but you and I, but we won't go into spoilers, but you and I have both seen the fourth episode and neither one of us like that. Yes, I, yes. I am not going to lie. The fourth episode, the people are mad about the third.

You wasted your energy because it's the fourth one that you really. What do we do? What's the deal about? Anyway, okay. Mike Joyce. It's been fascinating to watch the Star Wars fandom meltdown over the show. Why even make new movies that they want Star Wars to stay the same as when they were kids? See, I don't agree with that though, Mike.

I don't. I don't think it's a matter of staying the same. I think it's familiar tones. I think it's familiar in the same way that, and I'll bring up James Bond again. When you want to see new versions of James Bond, But you still want it to feel like James Bond. You know, when it's, you can still, I don't need to see the new trilogy again, but I need to feel the same way because that's why I liked it in the first place.

Not that I don't want to see the same movies because they tried to do that with Force Awakens and it's not the same. It's just a repeat. Yeah. But it's the tone. It's the feel like House of the Dragon. It's not the same show as Game of Thrones, but you feel like it's the same world. That's what I'm looking for.

and I think that's what a lot of other people are looking for. Yeah, it's the smashing together of tones as you brought up earlier, Christian. I think if it had gone one way or the other, fine, I can put it, I can quantify it. Mixing the harder edge stuff with CW will approach to stuff, it's just not allowing you to fully, like, understand what the point of this was, honestly.

All right, so Shelby Y, huge Star Wars fan. Ackley doesn't have my attention. I just don't care they are twins. One is bad. Nothing else happens to make me want to watch. I agree, Shelby. plus the fact, John, when you said it's a murder mystery, is it? We kind of know who did it.

Well, do we? We don't know who the person is behind the mask, but we kind of know who's behind it. It's not really a mystery anymore. Who done it? One of those people. Oh, okay. Who is it? It's either one of those two.

Oh, okay. Is it, though? I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. But, I mean, I agree with Shelby. I just think it's just not as, it's not as intriguing as they thought it was, as they, as they think it is. You know, I will say this. Someone said this in the comments and I, and I don't want to brush it off.

They said the bigger question to be asking right now is not why is the audience score so low? It's why is the critics score so high? I think it's a fantastic question. I really do think of this, because if you look at, let's say it's Bot City on the other one, right? Okay, we have an answer to why it's so low if you wanted to say that. I still think that it has a lot of legitimate low scores. there. But why is this show so highly rated? It is not, what is it at 87% or something like? Yeah. Come on, man. That's, it's not an 80. It's like, and then, but to answer my own question before, 87% of those people thought that it was higher than a three out of five. And I guess I can say, okay, I don't agree with it. But that's the answer. The answer is they thought it was higher than a

3.5. Even if someone was like, it's okay, it's a 3. they don't think it but just because it's 87 it doesn't mean they think this is amazing it just thinks that they think it's over three right yeah yeah it's a good question to ask because you wonder do people have their own agendas and how they and listen i would never remove people's agendas whether you're a critic or a fan uh behind their review posting i would never do that because i think human beings are human beings and sometimes there are critics who are like well look they're talking about this they're having women in the lead i'm going to give it a positive view they have people of colorily, I'm going to give it a positive view.

They're going to tackle. They have two mothers, they're essentially implying a gay relationship. I'm going to give it a positive review. So there are people who do that. And they might even be pushing back against some of the more vitriolic toxic reviews by saying, you know what I'm going to review positively because I know what the hoard is going to do. And so that's very much a possibility. And I'm not trying to bring anybody specifically into question.

I think it's a great point. I think it's important to say also because it is one of those things where it's like, I think there are people who legitimately like it. And I do think that legitimate people that just go, okay, well, I know that channel over there is going to crap on it. So what I like this show, even like I don't really like it, but I'll give it a positive enough because I interviewed Leslie one time

and I thought she was great because every single person that I've ever met that has interviewed or spoke into Leslie Headland, love talking to her. Right. Love talking to her. And she was nothing but wonderful to people. So they were like, okay, so what she's doing, I'm going to give a positive view.

I think that does happen. I really do. I don't think it's an accident. And look, some people might get mad at me. I don't think it's an accident that they had that big thing where they invited some of the biggest Star Wars channels to be part of the conversation and all of a sudden you saw the stuff. I think that was a thousand and so, but let me, let me bring it. I'm not impuging. I'm just saying it was a smart move to get them. Of course you're not. And I know that's what that's what these dums that say like, oh, they're paid people.

They're dubs. Those people who say, how do they pay for this? They're dums. Now, what those dums don't realize is that they're what they do, 100% they do, whether they invite you to their premiere or they fly out to a junket in Hawaii or they do the, they ain't telling you, hey, give us a positive review. but they know that in your head you're going to go, that was a wonderful experience. And they'll never tell you this. But of course they're going,

hopefully they love that so much. They had a chance to do that. They're going to remember this experience. And that adds to it. They never tell you that. No one has ever once said to anyone, at least that I know, they're going, hey, do me a favor.

Give this one a nice one. Right. I've never ever. Ever, because the amount of trouble they could get in for doing it. But of course, we're going to fly out to Lucasville. And we're going to fly out there. And we know that you, let's, but let, if you notice the people that they invited this time around, were people who are very ultra positive star Wars fans.

And so you bring them with big follows, big reaches. So they bring those people out and they go, hey, we're also going to show you this. What did you think? We loved it. This is amazing. We love talking to Lesz and we love talking to Dave. And it's not that telling you that you have to love it. But I think you're 100% right.

They do these things because they want to get you excited about it. It's smart business. If you connect a big Star Wars platform that you follow, talking about how much fun they had at this event, talking to Leslie, interviewing, posting that content on their channel, then you buy osmosis are going to be like, well,

I'm more inclined to give this series a chance. Whereas I may not have been as interested. Now I'm like, well, if they say they had a good time, then I'm going to go take a chance. Again, I'm not imputing any questions. That's how you can connect. Of course.

But yeah, it's the same reason. Like when the dumps, a few of the dums, when I said, and I gave it like a backup, of a when I would say, as I mentioned before, there's some things that I don't like. I mean, you know, the show is, it's whatever.

The third one I still say, and I don't give a shit if you agree with me or not. It's like, out of the three of them, I thought the third one was the best written out of the three of them. And people were like, oh, that's because he doesn't want to lose his access. To what? That's, what do I lose access to? Fantasy. You don't get to see things early. Guess what?

I'm part of the fucking critics' choice. Yeah. I see things early whether or not they want. want me to or not right i mean so it whether i'm going to give it a bad review or not so it's it's nothing early access that's it's like those are the dums when the dums go well they you don't want to say this because they wanted to lose your access what's what's my access i don't know my access is anyway can't find the access to my fucking house anymore i can't even get in my house i know it's it's it's it's fabricated stuff because they can't do what we do they're not

they're not able to do it or they don't have the desire to do it but that's not no no No, no, no, I'm not saying we're better than. I'm not. I know you're not. I know you're not. It takes a lot of effort to do this stuff. And unfortunately, they don't have the path in their lives at this point to do it. But that's my push back. That's my push back.

A lot of the dums that do it, they absolutely 100% all they would have to do, no matter, even the videos that they make. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they wrote an email and said, hey, this is my following. Right. And I do this, and I want to see things early, you're probably going to get approved. You can get videos out earlier, and then guess what? You got access.

And then you'll be on the other side of views. It's just they don't understand. It's agenda on both sides on the way of it's stupid. That's stupid. Al Rensha, Akelyde and Lucas film pissed on Lucas principles of the force. And apparently, Anakin Conception being the chosen one, is not so special anymore. I can't disagree with the second part of that. But to go back to what John said, let's see how it wraps.

let's see how the show wraps before we make that conclusion. But it does take away from the idea that if the witch covenant could make this happen, and yet it took Palpatine so long to try to figure it out and Plagas and all, like, what were they fighting for? And it wasn't the whole idea that Plagas was kind of trying to figure out how to maneuver this and Bain structure. Like, is the story really about Bain and the Sith and how this happened or was about the witches? but now it's very possible that the Sith infiltrated and killed all the witches,

which would be to me going, oh, okay, wait a minute, hold on now. Now maybe you got me. Maybe you got me if you did something like that. I just don't think that's going to happen. Right. What if it wasn't the Jedi who killed all those witches? What if it was a Sith who had stuck in there and killed all those witches and done those things and then took the technology?

Like we see now with the clone technology, they've been trying to retrofit into Star Wars ever since the final episode of the sequel trilogy. So yeah, and we don't know. And look, it's, again, I say this again, people can be too precious about this stuff. Anakin is not Jesus Christ. And so he, and by the way, Jesus Christ, there are multiple saviors in multiple religions,

in multiple beliefs, and so it's all open. So the uniqueness of Anakin, who by the way, fucked it all up and became Vader, by the way, is not somehow untouchable. there can be other possible situations

that clearly don't work out she left the Jedi and May became a villain so clearly this whole idea doesn't work out so this idea of it being precious or exclusive I just think it's nonsense to be upset about because again we don't really know what the full story I guess who the full story is but I mean I have

to see it before I can make it a valid argument but it is if they make it less special I'll have an issue with it I'll be honest bagel I'm glad I drive you nuts nothing makes me happier than me driving you know that's like i want a video this is why i wanted video but i didn't say anything for an hour and 22 minutes so give me a break a lot of people coming after me the whole time in the chat

because they do they love to do it because i do think they're jealous of what i do and so this idea of like i love that i drive you nuts i nothing makes me happier than driving you nuts bagel london calling delighted to see inside i was it at the box office what is your estimated a drop off. Oh, your EST drop off for it this week. Oh, oh, your estimated drop off for what it'll make. John, all the best for Euro 2024. Yeah. Thank you. So what will it make? I mean, what did it make 153 for the weekend? Is that what? Yeah, yeah, 153, something like that. I bet you it's, I think it'll make around 70, 70 this weekend. I think it'll go more than that. You think another make a hundred. I think it'll be a drop off at best. Wow. What, yeah, it's really not,

there's not a lot of competition. Yeah. Not a lot of competition. So, but I think, I think, so you think it'll make another $100 million? I think there's nothing until Quiet Place, right? Like we said last week. And that's not a competition for that. Right, exactly. So I think it's going to clean up like crazy as word of mouth keeps going.

And as people want to go and see it with their kids more and more. There's nothing else competing with it. I'm not pushing back on it. I just, I think maybe, maybe not. Maybe 30%. Ackleid has a secret sit. Here is my suspect. Roker, Tom Cedel, Caitlin, Clark, MacGyver, Rock.

see Mike, Mike Joyce, Mike Joyce, Drake, Joy Rogan or Shaq? I see Shaq as a sit, absolutely. That was good. It's true. Very good. Mike Joyce is the Sith Lord. Blake Gilbert coming in hot. The acolyde doesn't miss.

Might finish it once it's all out on Disney Plus. You see, but that's, that's what I mean. Blake Cooper comes in just says not for me. Yeah. I see a lot of that. And it's not like a hateful thing. Not like this. Totally fine.

No woke comment. It's not. It's just like the show doesn't work for me. I'm seeing a lot of that. And I agree with you, John. I think it gets overshadowed because if you say you don't like it, you know, it's like, well, why don't you like it? Right.

Why don't you like? What's your problem? What's your problem with it? And you're trying to like do the gotcha. It's like, do you not like gay people? Do you not like people of color? No, I just don't like it. It's not a good show.

Here's the next one. Jim 1. Have you guys ever visited my hometown, Quebec City? I have not. Have you, John? I've never been to Canada in my entire life. Oh, I want to go. I want to go back.

There he is. Every time, but funnel. Hey, get a Mazda. There you go, John, get a Mazda. Get a Mazda. No, I am getting no fun. Sorry.

This would be like, it's like, that's like you're Merlo. You can get no Mazda. I can get no Mazda. It's Simon section. Wow. How's the Dragon season two episode one? They're not playing.

And to think, I thought something bad was going to happen to the dog. Also, I need you inside of a skeleton crew. That was a story. one of the stories we missed um i am the story was just basically it was going to be more fun it was going to be like a goonies type show like more like an emlin entertainment type version i'm i'm i'm curious i'm like i'm optimistic in the idea that john watson seems pretty excited about it i thought he directed a really good episode of the old man when he started into his show and i think he does

he knows i do television i think he directs you know young people pretty well i just i it's the same thing that i just said to my choice of my response i just hope it feels a little bit more like Star Wars, but we'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Never lose your nerd. Acclite is good, but not great like most Star Wars. Fair enough. Beto Power. Hey, I'm out on

the show, sadly. Well, Disney well, I'm going to cancel Disney Plus until Andor returns. Then good riddance. They need a cleanse top to bottom. Nothing is working. It's fair. I mean, I don't know if nothing is working. Yeah. But it's like... Andor worked. Yeah, but it's... So nothing is not, I don't think that's accurate, but I think it is not a majority like it used to be,

for sure. Yeah, yeah. Matt Boy, now they're in New York. We'll be venturing to New Haven to try some pizza. I think so. I think eventually I will. We're trying to get settled here first and do some stuff, but yeah, I think so. I mean, New Haven is like the spot for some pizza, so I want to check it out.

What's your top place in L.A. for pizza? In L.A.? So I got a few. Because I was watching Port Noise. and he settled on one. Well, he's got a couple, but he likes Apollonia, which Apollonia is pretty good. He loves Apollone.

You're right. Apollonia is pretty good. So Apollonia, I like. I really like prime pizza. It's pretty good. Joe's went down a little bit in quality. Ellis brought over pizza wagon at Brooklyn. Before, when we left, that's a good one, too.

That's close. You're in San Diego, so I'm not sure about it's the San Diego. Yeah, I got to take a look around here. You should look at if he did any. I don't know if he's done any San Diego spots, But, I mean, Portnoy, but the, but those are the ones that stand out in L.A. for me. We were trying to do some with Frank and I, but that's the other problem. Like, dude, I have, from where I am right now, where I'm sitting right now,

there are six pizza places that I could go to and six of them will be better than all those places I just told you. That's right in L.A. You're right. And within eight minutes of each other, there's six of them. And they're all better than all of Los Angeles pizza. And they're probably, and they're really, really great. but they're probably subpart of some of the stuff in like Brooklyn and in Manhattan in those places. Anyway, Don't remind me.

I miss the East Coast sometimes. I know. Don't remind me. Don't remind me. NLFS FC-996. Thank you so much. Acklead has been fine, but I just miss watching classic Star Wars battles, lightsaber battles.

I was watching the Ascension ceremony and told myself, what is this? That was a lot of conversation from a lot of reactions that I saw people going, what? What is this? What are we doing here? Yeah. I didn't like that Ascension. It was like going to a black box data to see your friends one-act show, and you're like, oh, God. And that one random lady just screaming wildly in the background.

Yeah, it was like, stop. Come on, what are we doing? Come on, let's be honest here. There's no reason to do the screaming and the yelling. We understand. You also use the force. And so there's a nap person uses the force and they can use the force. And everybody in this world, and then, and let's say, Helen, style was, can use the force.

My whiskey and Lulu, my two donkeys, they can use the force. Anybody can do it. It's fine. And Ryan Johnson set that up and everybody loved when he did that. And then the mop boy and he did it. And then Ray didn't know. I don't know who I am. Who am I? Nobody. Come on.

And he did it out and the Palpatine. Nobody was like that either. Some people did. And who knows? Come on. Artem. Shackarumina. No way I got that right.

Ackleit was advertised as a show about a villain point of view. That's true. Yes. Thriller mystery. There is no villain point of view. I've heard that they changed that. I heard it changed it. And mystery in first 15 minutes of Andor than the first,

there's more mystery in Andor than first three of Acclade. Agree, 100%. Fantastic. I thought it was going to be. They were trying to sell it as like Andor and also that tone and it didn't work. Dennis Hoffman box office question is one billion worldwide reasonable since China basically brings $0 to U.S. film since COVID. Well, there's been a couple.

There's been a couple that they actually have done. Look at recent apes, 28 million versus war. Now, that's a good point, though. I don't know if apes, I guess apes didn't open in China. Yeah. But I mean, you're not wrong that it does make an effect, but there are some movies that do get the push. And I think did China, did Inside Out go to China?

I haven't seen the numbers for that one just yet. I wonder. But, I mean, no, you're not wrong. I think that it absolutely. I think that it is realistic, but it does play a part. There's no doubt about it. Like, anytime you hear, well, it's opening in China, every time we've said that, you go, oh, well, it's got a shot now.

Yeah, every time. All right. So Matthew Brown, Lucasfilm needs a complete and total rebuild because Kathleen Kennedy will only drag the company down even further at the rate they're going. Look, I'm not, as I've mentioned beforehand, as I'm looking at as a sports team,

that I think that if you look at, oh, this coach makes the wrong calls, puts the wrong pitcher in, puts the wrong number four hitter up, does this, that, and yet they've been with the team for the last five years and they should have been gone with the team two years ago, right? I feel that way about Kathleen Kennedy. But at that point, if that's the case, well, then ain't just her fault.

If she's still there making these decisions and everyone else going to go, yeah, Indiana Jones had cost how much, 300, we lost how much? Yeah, stick around. Let's see what else we can do. What's that movie? What's that show? Oh, no one likes that one. And it got a 15% on, yeah, stick around.

Let's see what we can do. That's your fault at that point. Yeah. And also, listen, I'm going to tell you guys something, don't be letting the dude in the cowboy hat get away with, it either. Don't tell me Faloni didn't have some input into the acolyte

or into these other things. And certainly what we saw in Asoka. So I know you all want to go after the creators and directors. Don't be foolish enough to think that Faloni isn't also dropping in some two cents or pushing things in a certain way. And it comes out really good. He did a lot of interview. Go in his aesthetic

into this stuff that's different. I'm of the belief that Faloni is the one who turned this a little more kitty rather than letting it be darker because he doesn't like Andor. So to me, that's the thing at the end of this. So please don't let Falloni escape criticism. Oh, no, people worship at that altar, but he makes mistakes. It's so funny because like if you, if my self today was talking to my 2016 self about like because I thought he should be running everything, right? Yes. I think it is a major error that he has

the position that he has. I think like when you go back and you watch like Asoka and I was talk who oh my friend james my friend james who is again very casual fan he said i just finished ssoka he thought this is two days ago and he and he's just like zombie stormtroopers and he's like and is this is what the hell's going on he's like this is a terribly written show i'm like it's not it's not very well written it's not very well written um okay and lf sc 96 i watched house a dragon i told myself it's not the main game game of throne series but it feels like the main series with the same investment i feel for characters i don't yeah because they're you care about the characters and making you care about the story and it's smaller than the original

game of Thrones it's smaller yeah yeah it's smaller i mean as many characters i mean right it's not so much to get you're really just paying attention to this family drama that's going on and you're invested yeah yeah Pete parker 2288 is it really fair to rate a show before it's finished there's been shows that have started slow but were amazing by the end no it's a great point that's what john has said this entire show is like you got to see how it finishes up but i think that you know in the same way that John, I believe John, if the end of it, it doesn't deliver, you're going to go, well, you know, I gave it a shot and it just delivered poorly. Yeah.

There's no better example of that than going back and watching my hosting of the last episode of Game of Thrones of Season 8. I defended that season 8 step by step. And then when that finale came and it was such a letdown, I went off on that finale because I had defended it and thought they were going to end it in the right way or thought they were going to make it all work. And then they didn't, you know, just like lost. I love that finale. It has nothing to do with that show.

Absolutely nothing. They just basically said, you know, you guessed it in season one. You were right the whole time. We didn't know. So we just said, hey, just kidding. It actually is about. I am honest. Dan, that's, excuse me not being honest.

Mallory, Garrett, filthy liar. Should TV have trigger warnings beforehand? Alice of the Dragon last night made me physically ill, I wish I was warned. Wait, what? Let me answer nicely, please. Sure, you'd answer nicely, then I'll take it. Because you got to understand something, John.

You and I are older, old school. How dare you? We are. I'm in my pride. I don't know how old Mallory is. I had a conversation with my 12-year-old daughter and my wife last night, and my wife and I are Generation X to the core. In the conversation that we're having to my 12-year-old,

who is what generation is eight, right? So, so such different ways of thinking about things and asking questions very much what Mallory just asked. It's something I'm sure that my oldest would ask question to. My answer to that question, Mallory, is again, because I'm old school, I would say no. Because my answer to the reason why is because

this is what the show is. The show has been in House of Dragon, Game of Thrones, you're walking into something that you can get some disturbing stuff that, you know, there was things that happened in that original series. You're like, whoa, I can't believe they went in that direction. You know what it is. And in every corner, something, like, watch my reaction from the end of last season. I know it's different from what happened at the end of last night's episode.

I agree with you. And it was, it's disturbing. But it's what the show is. And I know, my personal opinion is, no, I don't think it needs a warning. I think if it's the first season of a show that's never been out, and no one knows anything about it, you can have a conversation about trigger warnings, especially if you're dealing with some lead traumatic stuff.

And usually they do put a... Sometimes when it comes like, like, look, if there's a school shooting or something like that, it happened, and it was recent, yes, I do think that it's necessary to do things like that,

but sometimes, no, I don't. You have eight seasons of Game of Thrones. So at some point, you have to take responsibility as a view of yourself to do a little bit of research before you try out a show like this and find out how deep they go. Because it's like going,

handmaid's tail and going like, after the fourth season, season. They need to give me trigger warnings. You know what's happening on handmade stolen. So I understand where you come from, Mallory, but I always, I'm always a personal responsibility thing. If you have to do your research before you jump into things. Yep. All right, Blake, here we go. Did you guys see USC announced they have dropped the tuition fee for the three master's prox and for dramatic acting and writing programs? I have a BA and screenwriting. Is it worth it to attend USC to network? Some advice would help. USC, I mean, look, my father-in-law taught there

for 30 plus years. It's, I mean, it's a, it's a phenomenal school. I mean, they, so they've dropped the tuition fee for their, I mean, yeah, someone came in, I think someone came in a donor or they just decided to do this, but yes, they've dropped a tuition fee for all, who are already in the program. That's people who are already in the program. I don't know if they're going to extend it to people who are coming into the program, but for right now, that's what they're doing with people already in the program. And yes, absolutely. Why wouldn't you want to network at USC? If you can afford it and you get in and maybe you qualify for that allowance, then yes, yes, absolutely go and apply because there's a lot of people from USC who work in the business.

Yeah. Okay. But they might find your YouTube channel not want to work with you if you talk shit. So you'll put that on your head. It's true. All right. So let's, again, a lot of questions here too. I can't thank you guys enough for all the support here today.

Yes, boy. Gentlemen, if you all were given the pen, how and when would you book Drew versus Punk? I think it's a mania worthy. So do we wait? Thoughts on who killed WCW. I didn't see that. And John might have seen who killed WCW.

I didn't see it yet, but as far as punk. No, I wouldn't wait all the way into WrestleMania. You got two, I mean, what's left?

Well, I mean, you got SummerSlam right around the corner. I mean, is he going to be ready by some of the room? What? And then what? Survivor Series is coming.

Right. Is Punk going to be ready by, by SummerSlam? Yeah. I mean, you drag this out until he's 100% right, and not just like the next day.

I mean, you've got to have an extent. ended amount of time. What I would do, if you're going to do that, if you're going to do that, you have them do something. If you can get them to fight at SummerSlan, it's like, it's like that old Hogan versus Michael's thing that never happened, that John loves someone. But if you had, if you had that original plan go down, if you had that original plan go down, what that was supposed to happen was Michael's gets one, Hogan gets one. Yes. I forget that Bogens was a close down. If you do something like that where you have punk, you know, and drew battle in the first one in Somersland,

maybe Drew takes the first one, then Punk takes the second one, then somehow, you know, one of them, I would assume Drew, finally wins the heavyweight championship, and then they fight at Mania for the title. Then it's worth stretching it out for that long. But stretching it out to not have them fight for that long, I don't know if they can make you care for them. They've got to fight at least once or twice.

Yeah, and I agree. And I think to make it to Mania is in such a long time, but maybe, but I also think you might. might lose the juice. And so you've got to have something happen. And maybe you go old school with this where there are multiple matches, not every pay-per-view, but maybe you started SummerSlam and it's a controversial finish. Because you've got to Drew McIntyre, make McIntyre the baby face. That's what you're doing here is McIntyre's going to turn into the baby face. They food the hell out of Steve Punk and class of the castle. Well, but that, but that is, I know, I know, but you play it

that way and you, because the fans are going to come, have this. And punk play, people are enjoying what Punk is doing it with McIntyre. And Magintyre is playing it so well that eventually you're going to make the turn. And that's what punk is doing is putting this guy over. And this is, by the way, career rehabilitation by Punk doing this with McIntyre. Yeah, agree. The most lose in a brutal way. Yeah, I think they're both.

Drew McIntyre has become a major, like, turned me around tremendously because I was at one point in my eyes. If he leaves, who cares? But now it's like, you can't lose this guy. Yeah, you can't lose this guy. Jesus Fernandez regarding the act line. I do think critics don't care about the lore, and it is the main complaint from fans,

hence the mixed reactions. I think that's a portion. I think that's a fair point. I think there comes some people who are just watching it. I think that's a very valid point. If you get sent these links, and you're not a big Star Wars fan, you don't give a crap about the lore,

and you don't know what's happening whatsoever. You're just judging it at one point. What do you care about that type of stuff? So I think that's a point we didn't even look at. I think it's a great point. It is. But I also think that's been a, a point that's been consistent throughout. You think

Siskel and Ebert knew what the lore was of Star Wars going into the sequel trilogy? No. So the other critics don't really care about the lore, but I think the point is still valid in that caring about the lore helps you to really fully analyze a

deep dive on reviewing a show like this. So I think it is important to know the lore. Yeah. All right. Let's see. Next one. This is Cowboys Fan 92. Hey, John. Hey, you see Inside Out's box office. See my estimate for its timeline cracking 13 million before week four like i called on the hot mic was closed i don't know what that means 13 million before week four it broke 13 million before the

second day 30 million maybe i think even i think even 130 million i think he meant 130 million for a week for yeah i think so totally broken yeah well three weeks early three weeks early al rencia i thought episode three was the worst of the season fair enough also i think acclade is the second worst thing Lucasfilm has done and only better than Book of Boba Fed um I I have to it's gonna steal John's thing I've got to see the whole season before I can make that because I enjoyed and I have to sit on things too because I enjoyed Asoka more watching it when it was on that I did when I sat on it and it marinated and I realized that's bad acting I mean bad writing sorry like why is sabine acting like she's 17 when she's 35 years old why is you know all these things

they started asking all these questions later on they were like a couple episodes that i thought were we're pretty good but you start sitting on and go why why is that i just showed mike and step have you seen the benny hill scene from uh with the music from from obiwan john with the music no god i got to send it to you it is the best it's the it's the it's the lea scene when she runs away from fleeing everybody. They put the, and they put like sound effects, and when there's a balking of the heads into the tree, it's like, and it's like, and it's like,

and it is hilarious. But the fact that it's also sad because it fits so well, it's not edited really at all. So anyway. They just need to decide what they are. The literature of tones is too much. I think, and there's no world that it'll ever happen. I hope that Disney sells Star Wars.

to Apple. I hope that it happens. It won't. It won't, but I hope that it does. Okay, this is Swayze. Played as it's going to fail. Just get Wesley Snipes. I think what we talked about on Cape and Cal's at this point, you give Mahershaw Lee, you know, and it's not him. You said, look, let's try this out for another year. Let's see if this works out. And if it, and if not, let's just,

we'll give Mahershaw a better role or another role in the MCU, give him somebody else and then we'll just reboot and do blade in like four or five years right right i mean because it's like it's what are we doing with this it's like it's it's it's just jinx yeah i've been a diehard star wars fan all my life and have at least mildly enjoyed most movies tv shows used to love watching and engaging with the fan base but i can anymore it's either everything is perfect or everything is trashed yeah i'm with you josh i feel that it's exhausting in it very much so because like i said it does it it it is It feels very similar to if you bring up,

if you sat certain people down in those two camps that you sat down that you just mentioned, you put them at a dinner table of Thanksgiving. What's the difference with somebody bringing up politics in the middle of a Thanksgiving? It's the same damn thing. And neither one of them, and that's the frustrating part is neither side wants to like give in a little bit.

You know, like I saw someone bad faith posting just because you don't like Star Wars. Doesn't mean you're racist. Bigger, no, but the people who say that stuff, it does mean they're a racist, big, and homophobic when they specifically point out those things as reasons for not liking it. So, yeah, when you bring that, when you start bringing that as the number one reason, like, it's, oh, look at this, they're doing this. And if that's the only reason you hated, it's like, why is it, why isn't it bothering

you so much? Right. Right. But I still also think that there are times, and I've said, and people push back on me when I said this. character. I do. In Ackle? In Eckley. I do. I think you, I don't think, I think, your, to me, I think was a bit, was a bit forced. And people didn't, didn't agree with it. But I think, I think that everybody else has been

cast pretty well. But people go, no, no, no, no, what do you mean? What do you mean? And I just thought, I did. And I think sometimes that happens. And I think sometimes it happens in, and it's not Star Wars. It's everything, I think sometimes. And I think sometimes when you just, when you cast the people who just put their hands up and go, why does it have to be a black person? And he's like, because he's fucking great in the role. And it's perfectly cast and it fit beautifully and it worked well. And then there's other times where you're just like, well, they didn't want to get screamed at on Twitter. And that's why they did.

That's why they did what they did. But I think it happens all over the play. Day Natman, can we stop using flashback storytelling in Star Wars? I didn't know in episode three and would have liked it to have been the first episode. Yeah, I mean, you could have. You could have done that very much so. And I guess they want the whole Kerry and Moss thing to me is another thing that stinks to high heaven, to be honest with you. But is it a flashback episode because no one's flashing back?

It's basically starting the episode. Now, you can argue that it's OSHA's point of view, so it's her flashback possibly, but we start 16 years on Brendok and we end on Brenda. We do not go back to the regular time. By definition of what a flashback is, no, it's not. But it is still like a, but his point is if you wanted to, you could have opened with that. Yes, I think that's their mistake. You could have, but there was also to me something of like, well, you set up these characters like, oh, we keep telling you about this.

Here's how it won't down. Yeah. So, I don't know. Liam O'Toole, I hate that. I just don't care about the accoling. I turned it off after episode three to watch the boys instead. House of the Dragon, the boys, the bear, vastly superior. I agree with all that.

And then that's what I think is there, I think it's, that's where I really, John, I'm telling you that percentage. I think are people like Liam that are going, I wanted to love this show. Yeah. Don't care. It's because again, look at House of the Dragon and the boys. That's more mature adult storytelling. I think Leslie wanted to tell a more mature adult story with the acolyte,

but I think the powers that be at Star Wars are like, no, you got to make it kiddie, you got to make it young adult, you got to make it teeny. And that's where we're getting the issue with this show. I think the show was a much darker show in its conception. As you said earlier, they changed the point of view. They weren't gutsy enough to be like, let's tell this all from the Sith point of view. I think that would have been awesome,

but they were too afraid to mess up the fandom. And now they've got this mess, you know? J.S. Hooper, there is an interracial lesbian couple in Andor, and nobody care. His adopted parents are a black, white, interracial couple, and nobody cared. The show is awesome and a hit with fans of all ideological views. not a bad point it's not a hit with fans there are a lot of fans that don't like and

a lot of wait wait wait wait but overall majority it's a hit with fans with majority there are a lot of people a lot of the star wars hardcores that are like it's boring it says yeah there's a lot of that but the majority when you look at that it's right you'll see a majority of people think the writing of that show is the best thing since like empire strike i agree but remember the they their their views were down on and or people weren't watching they had to go put on an abc To get people interested and then it won the. Sure. But it's an excellent point.

But the couple isn't a big deal in that show. And it's clearly a big deal in this show. And that's the different. But he didn't make a big, but his point is it didn't make a big stink about it the way they did do because it was like, it just seems more like, hey, look, as opposed to this is just,

this is who these people are in Andor. So I don't know. Al Rensha, writing is bad. Most of the characters are not interesting except for Seoul. And I felt we were promised series focus on the Sith, but not what we got. I agree with that at the end there very much so, is that my whole, at one point, it was my most highly anticipated series because I thought it was going to be like,

oh, are they going to finally show the workings of Bain and how Bain infiltrated and set up this whole thing that eventually led to Plague is that eventually led to Palpatine, eventually saw the corruption of it all. And they missed it. They just missed the mark of it. I think that goes back to the lore thing. Yeah. See, here's the point.

Look, Roka's full of shit. who watched it. No, I'm just saying there's a point. People who watched it loved Andor, but the comment above it is I found Andor boring. So people did watch and didn't like it. So you saying that unequivably, everybody who watched it loved it is bullshit. No, I don't think everybody loved it. I'm saying to the comment. I think to me it goes to majority. That's what I look at because yes, I agree. Majority people who watch the yard you and I are both in that camp. We love and or which all of the star. I love that show. Thunderwall. The Acklead is bad, but

those user reviews are mostly bots made by racist and homophiles. I don't disagree that there's a lot of that in there. If the show was about white men, nobody would have cared. I don't know about that. Well, they came after, they came after, a lot of people have come after the Canobe series, and that was about two white men. And yes,

you had Moses Ingram, but it was very much called Canobi. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, yeah, I don't know about that. Abe just puts in two bucks. Thanks. Appreciate. Let's see. And again, I know that, We've got a longer show, John, here. So I appreciate you sticking around.

It's just, we have a lot of generous people here today asking a lot of questions. And because of our muted mishap in the beginning there. So we had, uh, I know, 10 minutes. So I got, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, oh, John here for sticking around a little longer. Daniel Breen, new Spider-Man animated show is gonna premiere in November, Daredevil and Kingpin to show up. Are you excited for this after X-Men 97? I am. I think that maybe, you know, it's one of those things that maybe, maybe Marvel's got a lock on their animated and that's going to start to do a little bit more of a turn into a change into i mean look at what

pixar pixar turned themselves around right inside out of ron is a hundred percent right i think was more old school maybe they go but a little bit more old school MCU now what do you think john about the animated yeah i think so i think they saw the way forward i mean it's quizzical again because the beau de mayo situation you can't remove that from the the whole project so can someone come in who's going to write that kind of stellar writing for this spider man series we'll have to wait and see but I'm excited and I like that they're going down this path. And for anybody who's interested, I'm negotiating, having a conversation with Lenore Zan,

who voiced Rogue from X-Men 97 to come up on my channel down the road here. So look for that. So because I really love that series. And so if we can make that happen, it would be awesome. But yes, let's go forward with this approach to the animated stuff because I loved it. Renee Rance,

the accolade does not feel like Star Wars. It feels like Leslie Headland is shoving her political and woke in the Arkansas. I'm just trying to watch Star Wars. quit like i quit like a j styles but look so the beginning side of that this is this is where we run into it right act like here's i agree with that acclade does not feel like star wars in the way that we know okay it feels like head lexley leslie headland to me when i'm going to finish and rewrite it my side i feel like she's making the star wars that she wants to make is what i will say and i think that's

easy i think it's too lazy and too easy to scream out the woke thing and the shilt thing it's just too it's it's like it's like m and m in eight mile when he knows everything that about about the doc's going to say at the end and he's just like okay here we go i'm gonna give you everything you're saying because it's just so old yeah but i think that it's okay to say and fair to say and i got pushed back on it too i think leslie headland is making the star wars that she wants to make and i don't think she's following the star wars of she can say that she is but she's doing she's aiming at one side of the fandom and as i said in the beginning i personally think for a hundred $180 million. It's a mistake.

Yeah. But I, but it's up to them. I'm not making the business decisions. I ain't writing the checks. I ain't, I'm not the one that's going, okay, hey, look, we got to answer to investors here. But that's what it is. But the political and woke views and all that stuff, I leave that to other people to say. Yeah. And you and I are, you and I are different in that because I don't, I don't, I don't think she is making the Star Wars she wanted to make. I think she's making the Star Wars that she had to negotiate with Faloni and the rest of the people over there at Star Wars to make. this is not Leslie's full vision. Do you know that? You know that for a fact? Well, I know that about as much as a fact as people who say that it's absolutely Leslie's visions.

Well, no, no. The reason I ask you is you, you and Jeff do a hot mic and you have some insight sometimes. So I was wondering if it was anything that you would hurt. I can't. Okay. Okay. I can't say that, but I can say from what I've heard. You hear things.

You hear things. Yes. Let's just say that. I've heard. This is not Leslie's full vision for the show. It was a much darker version for the show and that things were changed to make it much more appealing to the young adult fans, so to speak. And I think that's what you're seeing. So it's unfair that Leslie's getting all this crap when so many people don't want to sacrifice their sacred cows of Filoni or anybody else because they don't want to believe that anybody else, as if Leslie could just rule over the series and do it all herself without having to answer to Kathleen and other people.

And so I wish, and I hate that they sign NDAs. I'd love all the emails to come out. Let's find out for real who did what. Because it's unfair that she gets to take all the hits. And Faloni sits back with his legs up on the desk, smoking a cigar, having fun. Like other people should take hits for this thing not doing well. And the truth should be out there.

And it's frustrating. Fair enough. Future millionaire. What up, fellas? Congrats on the moon. I know you have a full squad already. But please, if the space allows, please get Chris Carr on whenever you can.

I just had an email exchange with Chris two days ago. She sent me a wonderfully nice email. I love Chris Carr. She's a wonderful human being. And she just was wishing me luck and other things too. And I told her inside of my email without her. She didn't ask. Whenever I find the time to get her on, I will.

So absolutely. Screw-faced. John coming in. Christian got faded up. New York got my boy swagged up. That's right, man. Listen, this is Mack Weldon. I'm wearing Mac.

I don't even have them on today. I love Macwell. I told you about your hair. It's good about your hair faded up. I'm just not wearing a hat. Fated up. I'm not wearing a hat. All right.

Nick, Alexander, have you guys watched the boys season for episode one through three yet, Christian? I have not yet. Got to remember, and I'll tell you why in a second. Always enjoy the geek buddies reviews. My goal was to be able to watch, I think because the boys,

well, the boys actually are doing week to week. So I'm going to try to do one through three a review. And then I'm going to start watching and try to do reactions to them because the move just, you know, I was going to do House of the Dragon reaction. I'm just all over the place,

right now. And I just got into the studio today. I'm going to try to record a few other things before I finish this show today. I got in like my goal was to get in early this morning so John and I could start right on time. But again, John's been very generous with this time today. So, um, it just, but I will, but I will do, I will do the boys once I get a chance to do it. But I can't wait. You like it, right, John? I do. We're loving it. Yeah, I've done reactions for the first two episodes that are out now on my channel. The third one's coming out tomorrow. And I did a house of the dragon reaction, which will be out later on today or tomorrow as well but yeah how the boys has been so much fun and i see some critics being like do we need this stuff in our world anymore and i'm like yo man

cut it out cut it out grow some stones and cut it out 100 percent uh simon section loving the pictures on the background christian thank you i was going to do i was going to do the right thing and ask you why aren't there any picture of black people i just see car weather that's right that's right where is he i already took care of that. Don't worry about that. That's right. He is in the back of the end. He's punching Rocky right in the, in the grill. So I got it. He's, he's

not getting punched. He's punched Rocky. So we ain't going to be, we can't shot me at least push a black people on the wall. You can't see John in the bottom left here. I can barely see it right there. It's, we're all savages. Randy Savage jumping off the

Oh, yeah, Roka coming in. Everybody loves Roka. Let's say. He's always Razzes to the duck. I saw a great interview clip with him and Mean Gene. And they were going after each other. But like,

busting each other's balls, so good. Have you seen the Mean Gene, what do you call it? Clips? What are they called when they make the mistakes again? I can't forget the bloopers. The bloopers. Yeah, the Mean Gene bloopers,

those are worth the price of admission. I remember watching it live. I remember watching it live on SummerSlam when the spine fell in the background. He goes, fuck it. So good. Gallagos, Tate fellow is just sending support. Welcome to East. Thank you, my man.

I mean, everybody's been super. I mean, what a great stream. At one point, we had like 1,500 people in here watching live. And by the way, still in here. There's over 1,000 people in here right now. Jesus. Get the click button, will you? I mean, the click button, the like button.

Furiosa got $100 million in tax credits from Australia. Oh, how about that? There you go. That's nice. Well, I mean, that's a little bit of a... Make up the profit. Yeah, for sure. Matt Sinister McAll, favorite fast food and why.

Mine is Burger King. It's pizza. It's always pizza. But in and out, if pizza doesn't count in and out at, uh, is, was really good in LA. It's one of the, it's one of the fast food places that I'll actually miss. I guess, I guess fast food it's McDonald's, but like, because I put Chipotle and in and out and the habit in a separate category.

Oh, you do? Fast food. Taste-wise, Wendy's, but there's just something of comfort level about McDonald's that I always go back to. Yeah. All right. So that's the next one. Levi R.

How much money does Disney have to lose before they realize you can't double down in your own personal views or you're running a business when the majority of your audience is an interested. I mean, that's what we are talking about, right? And it's, I think it's a more of, and I want to make it very clear that it is, if you want to, whatever your political views might be, if you want to make movies and shows that are playing to your political side, I think, I don't think that it's something that people should say, you can't do that. Right. I think that it is something, though, as a business decision, that you have to understand exactly what Levi just said, $180 million, you're aiming towards everyone.

And inside of that, you're going to have a majority of people who don't agree with those particular things that you're putting out there. So you have to be wary of it. And you have to also be understanding of it. But I also think the question is incorrect and saying a majority. You don't know that a majority that people don't like it. You're just a majority in your bubble doesn't like it. And there's a difference in that.

And I also think, look, and or you just, someone just got over defending having a the lesbian relationship and or. So clearly you can have certain political points of your service. As long as you, I think at the end of the day, strip all that nonsense away. It's about quality. If you make good work,

it doesn't matter which a political one is. But the things are doing it. Yes, but also if it feels like in using the indoor example, if it feels like it's part of the world. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's good work.

Organic is good work. Right. Shved in, done to check a box. That is not good. I think that's what he meant, Levi. movie Phanobi congratulations on New York move and the first show the roxy show was nice thanks yeah i was so

happy with with the fact that people tuned into that one and and checked it out it was i was excited to have it on there and and roxy's excited to do the show this week so we'll we'll see how that what are you do with rocks what are you going to do she came on she came on the show on we just did our last la show together and i and i just titled it our last la show together and it's funny because i'm doing my first new york live show with dan merle i'm going to be in person with d'am if you You guys want to see the tickets, the links in the description. It's this Friday. There's like 30 seats left.

That's it. 30 seats left in that should go. But there's kind of a, you know, mix and matching going to see one of my old L.A. friends who doesn't live in L.A. now. He lives in a completely different state. It's interesting. I should crash that show. You should.

Jim one. Interesting situation. And how does it be on that stage too, you sacks of crap? Bring out the trivia. Right. And we're both flying each other. Well, I'm not flying myself down anymore, which is amazing. I don't have to fly anything.

Driving or training. it interesting situation house the dragon the high towers who were from the reach support agon but his region is ruled by house tyrell who have not yet declared yeah i mean there's i'm i can't wait to see how this i'm so politically like you know the way that they're the politics in that show is like that to me is like yeah where we going who's doing what oh wait is that guy gonna sign on is that guy going to screw him over that guy's trying to do that that it is the game of thrones they really yeah uh ingrid plas challengers is the movie i have seen the most in theaters this year four times. The score is intoxicating. What movie have you seen the most in theaters this year?

It's hard for me to see. I've only seen things one this year. I did watch Dune 2 again on the plane, though, which was great to watch against such. I did easily. I was wondering, when I watched it, I was like, okay, here's my challenge. I've already seen it on the big screen. Yeah. My challenge is going to be, is it as great as I think it is. And if it is as great, even on a little tiny screen, is it great? And the answer is yes. It's my number one movie, easily i think it sadly i have to agree with you i don't i was looking at the release calendar maybe seeing if i could pick something else but no i've seen dune two three times in the theaters yeah so i would say dune too yeah absolutely inside inside out's up there too man it was a good movie

arthur archie just want to thank you guys for a great show and always trying to promote folks being kind and class online thank you archie kudos and best wishes to you as you thanks archie very kind of you thank you my friend that's very regardless of some of the chat thank you archie yes yes i mean the majority of the chat's been pretty great to me yes Simon's section over or under 40 that the makers of Shogun will make a live action series based on the life of you Is he how does you pronounce that? It's okay. It's okay.

Or are the people just happy with blue-eyed samurai? John, are you enjoying the Assassin's Creed? So I started blue-eyed samurai last week. It is excellent. All of you who encouraged me to watch it, you are all right. It's absolutely my kind of entertainment because I love samurai stuff that's done well. So I'm finishing it up probably in a nice couple of days Loving it.

The Yusukee stuff will be a little interesting if they were to do a prequel series for Yusukee considering what happens. Would people be into that necessarily? Depends on how far back you go. And if you can get that actor back to play, I'm sure, I'm down with that. The Assassin's, I didn't know that it was out already.

If it's out already, the samurai version of Assassin's Creed, I'm going to go get it for sure. Next one. This is from Pete Parker. Kevin Smith recently said he doesn't care about Star Wars. outside of the Skywalker. Do you think there's a lot of people like that? Maybe. I actually hear a lot, and I don't know, it could just be the bubble that I'm in. I actually hear people saying they want to be outside of the skywalkers and learn a little bit more about the lore. And that was one of the things I was

so excited about was the idea of, you know, they were going to put this thing a hundred years before and they were going to show what it was like. And it just, it's a young adult novel. And that's just not what I wanted. But it had nothing to do with the time period itself. I actually, the time period is what I want to learn more about and less about like the, you know, the young stuff. Wayne Disney. Yeah, no, Wayne Denny, excuse me. ProductionList.com has a link up for episode 10, a new beginning for London crew members. Shooting September, 24 says about Ray rebuilding the Jedi Order. I wonder if they're going to title episode 10. You think that they will to get more people in there? You think they're going to change the line? I think it's more of

what happens after the episode 10. Like, what is going to be that title? Because I think that's the title of people are going to be like, book this or yes, I'm on board. So that's going to be interesting to see what it says. I would not be surprised. How can it not be episode 10? It's a continuing story. Ray took it over at the end of episode nine. So it makes sense to go with her in episode 10. This is for you because I wanted to add. I'm glad that this person brought this up because I was going to ask you about this and I forgot about it. All right. Haskell. Hey, hey guys, Jordan Peel just tweeted 1023 26 with the blade talk could it be he signed on for it gives plenty of times to fix the script cast previous commitments and production. He's coming on Friday too to Haskell.

So tell me, tell me what you know about this, Jordan Pilpah. Look, it was something I tweeted out. I've been told by a couple of people who work at Marvel that no, no way, it's not going to happen. But I've also heard from those people to say that nothing's going to happen and then something happens that I thought was going to happen. So we'll see what it means. I would love it if that's the truth. But I have a feeling that with the unsteadiness of Blade right now, this is alluding to something else.

That being said, I'd be incredibly happy if I was proven right that Jordan Peel is the right person to take over Blade and bring it back home and that the meeting with Marvel went really well for the X-Men stuff. They just didn't think X-Men was going to work with them. But Blade, that's how you get Maharshali to stay on the project. Because you bring someone like Jordan Peel.

I also pitched Spike Lee as a possibility. It would have been either one of those two doing it is how you keep Marcelloly excited. Interesting. EWalk, a UAP movie question? Have you guys seen the mid-90s TV movie about the Roswell incident starring Kyle McLaughlin? It's actually pretty decent and treats the subject matter respectfully. We're checking out.

Good to know. I know I didn't. I didn't know about it. I did see that the Spielberg's UAP movie just cast Emily Blunt. Yeah. That's a big move. I wonder what they're going to do there. But no, I have to check that one out.

Thank you for the recommendation. Okay. This is the next one here from Miguel Nuva. Yeah. I see the witches making the twins closer to mortal copy gods, whereas Anakin is a genuine article. The force made him on its own. Maybe. I mean, look, that's the thing is that we got to,

you got to see how it pans out. You got to see how it pans out. I know. Ryan, actually sitting at critics, 84% of Rotten Tomatoes. The wire is at 94%. Are you seriously expecting us to believe that?

That guy doesn't appear 10 percentage points from the wire. Ryan, this is what I'm telling you again, man. So I think that John made excellent points before. No, but John, I'm going to go. I'm going to actually go to what you said before, which I think that part of it is potentially that people said, I want to support this show,

so I'm giving it a good review. And that's positive. But the other side of it is, remember how rotten tomatoes works. The question is, do these critics think it's over a three? The wire, let's say that 94% of that score is people who gave it a five out of five. Right? Let's just say that the 84% of Ackle, is that 84% thought it was a 3.1.

That's how you get those scores. It's not a matter of the comparison. It's just it's why Rotten Tomato Scores are a little weird and kind of. That's why I think that question is ridiculous because, A, it's not the same reviewers from back then on the wire. By the way, more people have seen the acolyte than saw the wire when it came out. Let's tell the truth. So the idea of like comparing the 84% or 94% from the wire back then to the 84% now,

it's not the same critics at all. There are way more critics now, way more of these people who have their own intentions than the critics were back then. And so it's just a different situation. So to compare the numbers and be like, are you telling me? It's not the same thing at all, man. Yeah. Like comparing Montana to Brady. It's two different eras of warbacks.

You can't compare them. ZHR 1, 2, 3, 4. John, stay away from Keyes. They're still prone to being stolen. I'm speaking from experience. Oh. I don't know a car that isn't prone to being stolen other than. than maybe testless.

J.S. Hooper. The Mortis father, the daughter, and the son all acknowledged how special Anakin was. Leslie Headland has completely undermined that and replaced her with their own ideological vision. We don't know yet. I'm not telling you, I'm not going to agree with you down the line that I think it was just the reach, but it's not you don't know yet.

You don't know you. I mean, you all like Aniken's so special. He killed six billion people. No, don't start shitting on Anakin. Tiberius Monk. Hello, K and Jay. Yeah, he killed, but John, he did kill six billion people, but he didn't blow up the best stars. And he got

redeemed at the end. You were right. You were right. A low K and J. The acolyte isn't for me. But I hold out hope for Star Wars to be great again. Just need a figurehead with vision and direction. I agree. Rogue one and Ander remains the best Disney-era Star Wars content for me. I'm with you, me. You get an argument for me either.

Monk comes in, spitting fire once again. René Reyes. And it did turn into Vader, but he was still the chosen one in brought balance in the end. And the chosen one was a prophecy where thousands of years. I agree with them, man. I'm sorry. So it's pressure. Wait, wait. Where did he bring balance in the end by throwing the emperor? By throwing the emperor? Oh, I see. So, hey, don't mind that I killed all these people. Guess what? I still got rid of the

empire and I brought balance. Mistakes and mistakes. Mistakes. So it's precious and exclusive. You bagel. You bagel. You bagel. Where is this? We did that. Pete Barker. Chance of the full Outlaws gameplay trailer. I think you be one of the best Star Wars games ever as being compared uncharted. That one I'm going to have, I think John has said this in the past about other things. That's one I'm going to wait to see how people feel about it because I didn't like

the trailer. The trailer to me seems like every other story that I've seen, hey, this is a, this is a, you know, a smuggler that isn't really bad, but just fill into the wrong things. And it's like, who cares? If it's a good game though, I'll like, John, I'll figure it out and say,

all right. Eric Opperman just donates $499. Thanks, but. Really nice. You guys have been super, super supportive today, and Eric Opperm throws in another. It was Palpatine who did it. It was palpatine. What's wrong with you? That's right. It was palpit. John Rooka, otherwise known as John Woka.

The Dark Level 05. Roka, who wins this weekend? U.S. versus Bolivia. Well, I'm going to be firing up the Sports Channel game night to watch these Copa America games. And yes, I think Bolivia loses to the United States. But if they don't, the United States is in trouble. Fire Greg Burrhalter immediately, for God's sake. He's a terrible coach.

Exactly. Oh, I like Darth Woka. I like that. I'll take that. There you go. Perfect. So let's see. I mean, we still, I mean, I, and I have to.

I'm starving. I know you are. I know you are, but I haven't. And you know what's going to make your hair from up? I haven't even checked the starred ones yet. P.T. German. I'm going to order a fucking in and out. You should. I'll tell you what.

If you, because you're staying online, I will, I will order DoorDash to your place. Oh, cut it out. I will. Don't do that. I will. We have different conversations now. Go ahead. What is the essence of Star Wars?

I am an OG fan and agree with the takes on Andor, the Ackleite, Obi-1. So is the core of Star Wars science fiction is a mythology of the classic character arcs? I think it's all of it in general, man. I think I think it's all of it in general. I do think that there is, and I'm telling you, I think, I think, Kevin Kiner should be scoring everything. He's the only person who understands. You can make your own themes,

but throw in the original tones. Asoka had little bits, little tiny bits of the John Williams themes. Rebels had a lot of it. Clone Wars had a lot of it. But it meant with your own thing. Don't just abandon it because you want to be different. It makes no sense.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Screwface, John. I just want you to say I stay on longer. Send me a pizza, group face for real uh al rencia have you seen the right in the butt w o f clip no i haven't oh that is what is i'm not sure what that is much i'm sure i'm sure it's something that will probably

wind up on my uh oh no i'm a hack i'm a hack now i'm a hack oh my god tiberius monk hello again what out-of-the-box ideas would you like to see to make the theater experience great again keep up the great work christian john i i think the easy one is just lower ticket prices hats. Yeah, listen, we're done. I mean, like, I'm going to keep going, but just now, all the limits, all the walls are down. So this is, you're going to get authentic

Otlo Roca now. But why are you looking at the chat? Stay out of the chat. Stay out of the chat. This is why I had you on, no, this is why I had you on video ninja. Because I don't want you looking at the chat because you're going to lose your freaking mind. You can't look.

The same way. No, I'm saying because I'm tired, not because of the comments. I'm saying, I'm hungry and I'm tired. But no, here's what I say, I agree with you about lowering the ticket prices. But I also think, listen, think we've lost the um the etiquette and we're falling apart in the theater situation like i was watching i was reading someone's tweet this this weekend about a critic screening where critics

were on their phones during a movie at a critic's screening they were recording the first few minutes now that we've allowed influencers to be part of the critics organizations it has become a problem in terms of being able to go at these critics reading so people don't have respect but so it's not about the theaters can clean up all they want when you go to the theater and human beings or respecting the experience. What do you do about that? So that's the real problem. It's not just theaters and the prices and cleaning up the theaters. It's about human beings who actually walk through the doors. Are they going to respect the experience? And I don't think they do for the most part anymore. Eric Krempa, a positive Star Wars story. I was the guy at Schmo, down Orlando that gave you guys

and Ellis the Chance Cube. Oh, that's awesome. Thank you so much. It was an amazing night. And a shout out to Roka and Merle for bringing the house down. That was my brother was like, after you gave your you gave like a really good promo my brother was like roka was on fire that night it was a good night dan was a very big part of me getting in the i'll tell you that that is the one uh program i watched from beginning to end in terms of like our coming out our promos their promos the match and then the ending i've watched that more than any other match that i've ever had in the shmoh down and we found jader that night too which was awesome Jader was the coolest

man Jader was on my favorite I love Jader Jeter was such a nice guy Such a great Gay Dog Westmore Gotta give credit Acklice fight scenes are epic There's some pretty good fight scenes Yeah yeah for sure

Ardoma Shackaraman Didn't Reddit already spoil That Sith is Queen Mirr Who does is that is Queen Mir? Is that Is that Mani Kinta? Chimir, yeah yeah that's manager sento you Yeah I mean I think that I think that did they spoil it I don't they spoil it as much as

Yeah I don't think they spoiled it spoiled it. It's like you just yeah it hasn't been revealed as far as everything I saw yeah and we've got five episodes ago like I know what has seen the other other four episodes so they didn't spoil anything Star Wars has devolved to we love everything people and we hate everything yeah and the accoled critiques and the audience score I think both sides are voting with the agenda and not just what they see yeah 100%. That's ultimately that's what you said before john yeah I said that earlier yeah so I agree with screw yep Levi-Rge hey John I'm not just talking about star wars I'm talking about Disney as a whole they lost over 1.3 billion in

2023 and I don't think you can cater to the 1%. You have to cater to the 99. That's just my opinion. What's the 1% you think they're catering to? And do you think Disney hasn't catered to political and activist points of views for like decades in their content? What's

matter with you? But is it working right now? Everything in Disney is about everybody is great, everybody's equal, except everybody that means sexual orientation, that means race, that means creed, that means birthplace, that means social status, economic status, accepting everybody. So if you're going to make certain characters, the leads of certain shows, that is still part of the Disney edict since the creation of Disney,

for God's sake. So for me, I find that to be a, what I said, an argument that doesn't have a weight to it, and it's not 100% true. It all comes back to execution. That's the number one thing. Have all the political views you want. If you execute it well, people aren't going to be bothered by it. And I think that's the truth at the end of the day. So it's not 99 to 1%. That's nonsense. Jacob Pinchin, loving Dark Matter. My favorite show on TV right now.

I love that. I got to see the show. Did you guys see episode 5 and 6 is written by Marvel's written Megan McDonald? Great episodes are so good. Also, Roka. I've been loving the Senate files. Well, thanks. Yeah, we just had what the F with Mark Maren's producer.

Oh, Brendan McDonald. He came to join us to talk about Total Wecall over the next two. Yeah, a lot of fun. Yeah, dark matter is so good, John. I love it. I absolutely. I got to catch up of it. Bit Clarkie, please react to Star Wars theory.

Anakin tells Palpatine about the Acclite, which is get, this was amazing. So yeah, I'm going to, John. Again, as I've told you many times over, it's a matter for me is what I react. When I'm reacting to things in those are trailers and other things, that is when people, sometimes, I'm doing reactions now recently, John.

And I just, it's not doing as well as normally. Look at you. Shaking out of the way. Yeah. It's not very good at times. Red you read where the black people on John's wall that's right yeah that's right I'll show you mate where is it damn it I'll show you yeah Philly G super sticker thank you Philly J okay we're still moving we're still moving we got Simon section correct me if I'm wrong but I thought

John wasn't interesting in watching and or because it was based in the pre-Yavin storyline storyline I don't know where you'd come up with that I've never even the word uttered the words pre-Yavins pre-Yavin storyline in my entire life So I don't know where you would get that. All right. So now I believe, I think we're actually in good shape, John. I think all the starred ones I actually got to. Okay.

How many we got left? I think that's it. But let me just, I'm just going to double check and make sure as I'm going through it. But I'm going to make sure. But I think that there, you know, I think I got everything. So I'm looking through it. I just want to make sure I didn't miss anything. But I do, you know, while I do that, John,

why don't you tell everybody today what you got going on this week and, and big nice, plug what's going on on your channel listen if you guys love me come over to my channel for god's sakes please trying to get to 50 000 subscribers i know i'm combative i know i'm outrageous i know i can be quite irritating for some of you all but i deliver great content and i have incredible people like michael vogue jennettett mr mccallie kevin smet's all those people coming on my channel i can't get christian on my channel but maybe someday but this is the channel to be to hang out and have some fun and enjoy some really intelligent points of views from a number of people

who are really well versed in the things they're talking about. So you'll get a lot out of these conversations on the geek buddies, on the hot mic, on the Jedi way, on my reactions, my reviews and what have you. And Steve from the cinephiles, who occasionally drops in from the cineviles, he's fun to have. We just did the Shogun reviews over those 10 episodes. So there's a lot of content for you all to enjoy, not to mention my other podcast, the GeekBuddies, the the cinefiles and the hot mic that are you all there for you all to subscribe but youtube.com slash john roka says come and take a chance trust me just come at least hate watch me if you

don't like me so come and join all right so thank you guys i do think that we actually made it all that is that it yeah so i'm going to let john ron's got to eat i love you guys i got to wait thank you thank you guys thank you uh i mean really from the bottom of my heart thank you so much because not only did we have at one point almost like 1,500 people watching live for the first show that we're doing from the New York studio. Not only did you guys just pour in with questions. I think a few of you got some of the sponsors. Like that's the one that's the one that makes me sweat sometimes because I try to only take sponsors in here that I think you guys are going to like. And when you get them, I'm not lying to you.

Like it really helps the show like tremendously keeps us on the air. So find something that we had today. Get yourself something. But that's it. We did it. We did a show here from New York. Thank you for the positives. The thing is trying to do, we got, I told you I was going to put the Empire Strikes back there. I got Rayfarer. I got George Carlin. I got eternal sunshine and spotless mind. I got Rocky. This one, I'll have more, I'll have more story about that down the line about why that's so important to me. But we'll discuss. Anyway, thanks for joining. I really, really, really care about you guys.

I really do. And that's why I want to build these things out in the way that we have continued to evolve this thing. We're going to do more stuff. We're going to have, I'll get that program working. Thanks for sticking around for the sound stuff. But Apple podcast, Spotify, anywhere, anywhere that podcasts are found. Thanks for joining us here today. Thank you to John Roka. Thank you to you guys. We'll see you on the flip side. Oh, reminder, if people watch UAP Tuesday, we're doing our first one on the down to earth with Christian Harleff channel tomorrow. I'm probably going to do. do a live stream by myself tomorrow until we build it. This is eventually, I think that when we build out this portion, that side of it is still a little empty, but when I build it out for a second and the third chair, that's where we're going to start doing an in-studio show here on this channel. But UAP Tuesday will now be on the Down Earth with Christian Harleff channel. So if you're there for this, for this show, make sure you head on over there. All right.

Thanks, everybody. I really appreciate you very much. And we'll see you on the flip side. Thanks again. Bye. Bye.